tech-chat-1

[brave brook]

and it were letters of intent, not binding contracts

[frigid blade]

Love troubleshooting

[tulip sparrow]

Had to change things in Linux to fix the screen tearing

[brave brook]

yes, TurboQuant doesn't help in half of the VRAM usage, but i don't mind hype pushing down prices

[frigid blade]

It’s windows for him

He bought a new gaming laptop, rip, but there’s some issues across multiple games

[tulip sparrow]

I had screen tearing on intel on linux for some reason lol

50 series?

Nvidia drivers 572+ are all broken in one way or another

[frigid blade]

Yes

[frigid blade]

Oh

[tulip sparrow]

Hence why I am still rocking 566 drivers myself lol

50 series are stuck with newer drivers tho which yeah is annoying

SO yeah might NOT be anything you can do to fix things for all games

[lavish needle]

What can I do? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1455786412510023812/1488167827885133995/Screenshot_20260323-032332.png?ex=69cbcbca&is=69ca7a4a&hm=f2c9cc62cb243f511c387aa14150d4ade0732c22e663194f3a3396842cd849c0&

Like really what can I do about this

[left crag]

Are RAM prices going down?

[tulip sparrow]

Nothing you can do about ram pricing

[carmine yew]

They will eventually.

Don't hold your breath on this year tho

[left crag]

Will SSD prices go down

[carmine yew]

They will eventually.

Don't hold your breath on this year tho

[left crag]

tommorow?

[carmine yew]

is tomorrow within this year?

[left crag]

idk

[carmine yew]

no prices aren't going down soon

[fallow yacht]

hopefully this doesn't escalate further

[tulip sparrow]

SSD/HDD/RAM/GPU prices are all up well over where they should be

[brave brook]

memory prices are already going down. Slower than it gone up, but they are dropping

and if you are not tied to Corsair brand...

https://geizhals.at/kingston-fury-beast-weiss-dimm-kit-64gb-kf560c30bwek2-64-a3165122.html

[carmine yew]

That's still like a 300% increase

That's not really down, just slightly less horrific

[brave brook]

sure, but 25% drop from the peak

i mean it is always like this. Fuel prices go up in instant, then takes months to get back where they were before

[carmine yew]

Until 32gb is under 200 bucks again, it's still batshit

[brave brook]

RAM is same, instant price increase, then months to get back

well those were 64GB kit prices in the picture

[rotund mirage]

YOOOOOOO

[carmine yew]

32gb is still well north of 300

[rotund mirage]

MY 203 year old house is getting fibre internet

The guy is here installing 1/4 mile of lines on the poles

[left crag]

DDR3 ram is pretty cheap still

[rotund mirage]

Ddr3 my beloved

[brave brook]

well yes, but could be worse. could be 500 euros

[rotund mirage]

My pc uses ddr3

[carmine yew]

Because it's e-waste

[left crag]

My pc uses ddr3

[rotund mirage]

Ive got another pc that uses ddr2

[carmine yew]

And?

[rotund mirage]

Ddr2 people pay you to take

[carmine yew]

You've got an ancient computer, what about it

[rotund mirage]

The alien

[carmine yew]

Ddr4 went mainstream 10 freaking years ago. Anything running ddr3 is ancient tech.

[rotund mirage]

Wist this one is ddr4

My old pc is ddr3

I forgor

Eitherway the alien was free

[rigid fjord]

i see the pricing and raise you this

[lavish needle]

What the flip

[tulip sparrow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/avdrUM47wgs

[lavish needle]

My main computer is ddr3

[rigid fjord]

i've also seen a 32gb kit of the same ram going for 1-1.6k

[left crag]

Same

[gloomy sleet]

why?

[lavish needle]

I don't have any other one

[carmine yew]

So it's ancient

[brave brook]

12 if you count Haswell-E (5820K was 350 euros)

[left crag]

My main pc has xeon x3450

[rotund mirage]

Lol i know where to get free DDR5

[gloomy sleet]

i feel like ddr4 being around for like what 12 years now makes this not a valid point

[left crag]

Its too expensive

[lavish needle]

I literally have no other computer

[rotund mirage]

Ddr3 my beloved dont shit on it

[rigid fjord]

so do i, but it requires a shotgun and a balaklava

[left crag]

My ddr3 ram has 2000MT/s

[rotund mirage]

Dude i ran a gtx550 until 2023 dont worry about old but gold texh

And 8gb quad channel

[carmine yew]

that's not really mainstream yet. 6th gen was broad consumer D4 implementation

[rotund mirage]

Ddr6 when

[lavish needle]

I don't have dedicated graphics

[rigid fjord]

technically already out

[rotund mirage]

Oof

What you got a dell dinension?

[carmine yew]

probably AM6 platform, or maybe intel on a future platform.

[lavish needle]

Hp pavilion

[rotund mirage]

Laptop?

[brave brook]

if the AI RAM apocalypse didn't happen, i would have said 2028. Now ? Maybe 2030 ?

[rigid fjord]

tbf, it technically already exists but there's no jedec speeds for consumer use

[lavish needle]

Yes

[carmine yew]

in that sense, DDR7 also exists

[rigid fjord]

also ddr7 technically already exists, but not for consumer system use

[rigid fjord]

it do, just not for consumer use, and no jedec's for it

[tulip sparrow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/9JpcjRO8OI4

[rigid fjord]

jedec for ddr6 was already being worked out during 2024 as it is

same time ddr7 theoretics was being done

[carmine yew]

sure, but no chipsets/platforms will support it before AM6 or some future intel platform.

So even if it exists, it won't need to for a while

[rigid fjord]

yup, the closest anyone will see for it is gddr6 and gddr7

in regards to ddr6 for consumers

2028 is the most likely time ddr6 will be seen at earliest for consumer use

also the said sub channeling would mean quasi octo-channeling seen

[left dove]

hot

[rigid fjord]

96bit bus done as 4x 24bit instead of the current 64 bit bus being done as 2x 32bit

[left dove]

i read "9bit"

and about had a stroke

[rigid fjord]

instead of 69 bit?

[left dove]

no

my brain tried working out a 9-bit bus in my head for modern hardware and my eye just started twitching

[rigid fjord]

also looks like ddr6 might be camm2

[left dove]

finally

[atomic viper]

I just extracted 4gb ddr3 ram

[left dove]

ok and

[atomic viper]

I just hit the jackpot

[left dove]

anyways

[atomic viper]

Ok

[rigid fjord]

i should probably try to sell the sodimms i have from like ddr and ddr2 laptops

or make some use of them

especially that one stupidly designed stick from a sony vaio laptop

[atomic viper]

Alright

Do what's best for you

[left dove]

I need glasses fr because I did NOT read sodimms

[atomic viper]

My first time ever holding a CPU, and it's a pentium 👀

[left dove]

kinda.. late to the game, aren't ya

[atomic viper]

?

[left dove]

Tech.

[atomic viper]

Wdym late

[carmine yew]

https://tenor.com/view/gameundt-fallout-maximus-outerops-gif-4067651569052406982

also, if it's not PGA, it's not a real pentium

[atomic viper]

Yeah lemme just take a high resolution photo

[carmine yew]

I mean:

[atomic viper]

It's low focus

Is this good?

The motherboard is made by Intel 🙏🏻

[carmine yew]

a lot better actually

[atomic viper]

?

How good

[atomic viper]

How much better is it?

Is it powerful for a pentium?

[left dove]

not really

[left dove]

"A lot better" as in the image you took is better.

[atomic viper]

Ohh

Okay, thanks for the explanation

Intel stopped manufacturing motherboards on 2013

[carmine yew]

pentium's are low-end chips in the intel stack

[atomic viper]

On the PSU, there was a warranty with a manufacture date going to 2011

[carmine yew]

a core i3 is more powerful by far

[atomic viper]

Oh, I use an i5 on my main PC lol

For all I know, this motherboard has a chance to be older than me

[carmine yew]

the G630 is 2c/2t and is sandybridge.
Came out in ~2011

[atomic viper]

Dang

So this PC is indeed older than me

That explains the dust

September, dayum

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/fsr-gif-22015334

[fallow yacht]

man i used to use custom stock android launchers lmao

[cold skiff]

This is beautiful.

[ocean axle]

Something somethingbAcK iN mY dAy

[carmine yew]

sure, 20+ years ago it was a different story lol

[ocean axle]

see casing used

[atomic viper]

More beautiful than my future 🥲

[latent gull]

Never underestimate the power of Google

[hallow cypress]

i have a 750w psu and i've had it for around 5 years. it works perfectly fine but i'm just wondering if its enough for a 9070xt that im getting since it says that the minimum requirement for a psu is 750w which is what i have. will it cause any issues?

[ebon marlin]

Never underestimate the power of prayer

[hallow cypress]

i also have a ryzen 7 5700x3d with 2 ddr4 32gb ram

[fallow yacht]

nah man that thing was cringe

[ebon marlin]

Never underestimate the power of prayer

[devout scarab]

my ubuntu install just deleted the desktop environment, im gonna proceed everything that contains even small traces of technology and im gonna go live on top of a mountain without any contact with the modern world

[worn willow]

what mac i should buy

[grizzled frost]

The one that works best for you

[worn willow]

idk how to pick one

[swift stream]

nice dawgs

[grizzled frost]

look at specs, look at cost, look at reviews

[worn willow]

i just want a laptop that works

[ebon marlin]

Thanks I grew them myself

[worn willow]

so maybe the macbook air

[grizzled frost]

What's your budget

also what do you plan on doing with it

[worn willow]

replace my current windows laptop with it

[swift stream]

fortnite wanna talk about people "don't play their game"

[grizzled frost]

I mean what do you use on the laptop...

[worn willow]

i do programming
school
using internet

[grizzled frost]

Macbook neo would probably suit you well then

[worn willow]

but neo has the weird chip

iphone chip would be weak

[grizzled frost]

A chip more powerful than the M1

[worn willow]

but m5 is more powerful than a18

[grizzled frost]

And also at minimum 2x the cost

and you do nothing intensive

[worn willow]

also i want to do some gaming

[grizzled frost]

like what

[swift stream]

i use a iPhone 16 Plus and my phone runs fortnite with mid graphics

[grizzled frost]

just buy a macbook air, since that seems to be the choice you've already made

[worn willow]

but how much ram and storage

[grizzled frost]

not comparable in any way, given the mac has different power budgets, and cooling

[grizzled frost]

you're the only person who can answer that question

[swift stream]

16 uses A18 chip...

[grizzled frost]

So that thing i said a second ago, but again

[sinful cobalt]

ah yes the good ol “but my phone does x graphics on x game perfectly fine”

[grizzled frost]

"but it's the same chip!"

[worn willow]

but laptop has cooling
bigger screen

[spring latch]

my nspire will arrive today!

[worn willow]

bigger screen wastes more energy

[spring latch]

barely

[worn willow]

iphone have oled
macs have lcd

[grizzled frost]

Some of the best LCD panels in the industry

[spring latch]

nope, macbooks use mini-led

[ebon marlin]

No

[sinful cobalt]

ah yes the saving 10c a month argument i havent used this technique since yesterday

[weak swan]

If im between a 5070ti with 64gb ram or a 5080 with 32gb ram. Both ddr5, which is better to go with?

[ebon marlin]

Only Pro models

[spring latch]

5070 ti probably

[worn willow]

and i think imac uses mini led too

[ebon marlin]

But the Pro displays on the newer models are comparable to OLED

[grizzled frost]

Depends

[ebon marlin]

That's also only for Pro models

[swift stream]

oh yeah 🥰 😍

[grizzled frost]

Not at all what i was talking about

[worn willow]

theres no imac pro

[grizzled frost]

Also not an LCD panel

[ebon marlin]

Was it 2020 and newer iMac Pro's use MiniLed should be same for the MacBook Pro's

[sinful cobalt]

5070ti> gaming
5080>video editing/ram intensive productivity work

[ebon marlin]

There is but seems like they discontinued the iMac Pro line

[spring latch]

despite the extreme resolution difference, these monitors are basically the same size irl
32" 1440p
24" 1360x768
though the besils on the 24" one make it look larger

[worn willow]

imac pro got discontinued before getting apple silicion
while mac pro got discontinued this month

[grizzled frost]

24" and 32" are not "basically the same size irl"

[sinful cobalt]

ah yes 8 inches difference

same size

[spring latch]

i meant the physical size

[swift stream]

I wanna get a 5070 OC but it will eventually go down

[spring latch]

not the screen

the entire unit

including bezels and al

[grizzled frost]

in a couple years, yeah

[ebon marlin]

M5 iMac is supposed to have mini-led every other iMac has always been LCD

[rancid agate]

5080 for gaming. I have no clue what the others are talking about. Unless they mean value for dollar. But you didn’t mention anything about price

[swift stream]

i also currently have a 6750 xt, so isn't really needed anyway

[worn willow]

also theres supposed to be oled mac

[spring latch]

the PPI on the 24" one seems terrible though, 65ppi

[spring latch]

idk what sanyo was doing

[ebon marlin]

Rumoured currently for the M6 Macbook Pro but I doubt it

Macbook Pro's are productivity machines they're better off with Mini-LED

[sinful cobalt]

ok

[worn willow]

unless they make macbook ultra

[ebon marlin]

Nah

[weak swan]

I mean with those changes, both would be about equal in price.

[sinful cobalt]

dont get a 5080 for gaming over a 5070ti unless its in the same price range

[rancid agate]

lol true. The extra ram isn’t gonna do much for your gaming ventures but you’ll have a tangible difference with the 5080

[sinful cobalt]

nah 5080 isnt that much more noticeable than the 5070ti

[rancid agate]

wtf do yall be suggesting sometimes lmao

[sinful cobalt]

source: ive owned both cards

[south arrow]

Stoof and things

[rancid agate]

You’re saying he should spend the money on ram simply for principle?

[sinful cobalt]

im not saying he should

[cold skiff]

What’s the price/performance difference like $500 for 15%?

[swift stream]

but also thinking about getting this headset over the blackshark v3 pro

[spring latch]

cute car

[ebon marlin]

He's gay unfortunately

[spring latch]

not sure what crack you have to smoke to go ~220 miles in 3.5 hours, under standard traffic id expect 4-4.5 hours but it mustve been perfect along I-35 North

usually takes me 2 hours to go from my town to des moines along I-80 which is 108 miles

[south arrow]

Is speeed

https://tenor.com/view/next-day-delivery-forza-usps-ups-postnl-gif-15408318180114646505

[sinful cobalt]

me and bro after becoming delivery drivers:

[spring latch]

im just glad its not fedex delivering

it would come in a million peices if it was

really cant wait for my thing to come

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/toyota-toyota-jumpscare-mf-ghost-gif-3868564931563107401

[swift stream]

i would prefer a 5070 OC Edition for gaming over 5070ti

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/fact-check-kellanrockssoccer-gif-2569170256995872124

[swift stream]

only when comparing price

[sinful cobalt]

32GB vram in one pic

[south arrow]

Ridiculous lol Chevroleyyy "but thats to french for me" xD

[ebon marlin]

mf selling a broken Oneplus 12 for more expensive than a completely functional one

80€ cheaper for a functional one but less storage

[azure topaz]

they’re gonzo now right?

[ebon marlin]

or same storage and bunch of accessories and warranty receipt for the same price

[ebon marlin]

watdatmean

[azure topaz]

pretty sure one plus is no longer real

[ebon marlin]

idunnoboutdat

[azure topaz]

musta been a dream

[ebon marlin]

i doubt it

I think it's moreso that they're seperating from oppo

[ivory mountain]

hi guys i got the job

[ebon marlin]

as Oneplus has been doing financially really good

[south arrow]

Let's goooo vyr hypess

[ebon marlin]

even in public I see Oneplus phones constantly

[ivory mountain]

i needed something during college, i dont like being at home anymore

[ebon marlin]

they're literally more common than Samsung phones here

[south arrow]

Thats fair gotta keep busy

Lest we be alone with our thoughts

[ivory mountain]

idk much about oneplus i saw the 13 was really good tho

[south arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/whee-wow-wahoo-yah-yes-gif-523670879654954539

[ivory mountain]

gotta take my car in for a few days to get fixed ima miss it

[ebon marlin]

I've got the 12 and the Hasselblad cameras on it are insane

[south arrow]

Hopefully nothing to crazy

[ivory mountain]

im a basic bitch i use iphone

[ivory mountain]

i got the tires replaced and then the guy test driving it got hit by a truck 😭

glad bros okay tho

[south arrow]

For real, sketchy days happen

[left crag]

Anyone tried out physical_rewrite on ZFS yet?

[azure topaz]

so real man

i plan to swap soon but rn my 12 pro max carrying

[ivory mountain]

im on 16 pro max ima be good for a while

im tired of android users telling me to switch, when i tried to it was the worst experience ever

[south arrow]

I was going to get s26U over the s25U this year but meh maybe next years. The 25U is more then suffice stills

[azure topaz]

i would like an s25ultra but i don’t want to relearn my phone so might just get “scammed” again

[left crag]

I have Galaxy S20+ as my main

[ebon marlin]

What phone did you try out

[south arrow]

I hear good things on apple just never used their system

I do miss having full access to internal files on android. sighsss

[ivory mountain]

i bought an s22 ultra, can never trust samsung again

it was so bad between november 2024 and mid-december 2024 i used an s9+

[ebon marlin]

I've got a Huawei Pura 70 Pro as my main, Google Pixel Fold for reading manga and OnePlus 12 for pictures

[left crag]

Nice

[ebon marlin]

Eh it's a samsung can't expect much from them

[forest lotus]

I got the p10pxl. It's actually pretty nice

Battery life ain't too bad limited to 80% battery charge.

[ebon marlin]

Been thinking of getting a Pixel 10 Pro and Honor Magic 7 Pro to test out

[ebon marlin]

Pointless feature

[forest lotus]

Nah saves longevity for the battery

[ebon marlin]

Just remove the limit

[ebon marlin]

It doesn't

[forest lotus]

It's less stressful on the cells to charge to 80% than to charge to full

[ebon marlin]

Batteries have developed quite a bit that isn't an issue anymore

[forest lotus]

It still benefits from charging to only 80%

[ebon marlin]

Not really

[south arrow]

As long as it doesnt get hot so to speak. But this is an age old debate

[forest lotus]

After 3 months I've only accumulated 33 total cycles on my battery. Or what would be one month of full charges

[south arrow]

Also leaving cells empty for to long can also damage/kill them

[forest lotus]

/ deep discharges

[south arrow]

Both options can have meh results. Ive been watching a few demos on youtube regarding this exact thing. And like its hard to explain

[forest lotus]

<20% discharge is slightly suboptimal for lithium ion cells

And >80% is slightly suboptimal for them too

[ebon marlin]

https://youtu.be/kLS5Cg_yNdM?is=sUG3FCkViyZNMPtT

Very informational video

[south arrow]

Cause battery's do degrade its just really hard to mimic and re create consistently

[ebon marlin]

Bunch of other testing other than fast charging ^

[south arrow]

This guy and juan other did a video this last year

[forest lotus]

I also want to avoid pixels artificial charge voltage limits for as long as I can

Because pixels after X amount of cycles will limit battery charge voltage

[ebon marlin]

I was just like you always setting a limit to 80% for my charging but that video helped me remove the limit

[south arrow]

Wich is fine if thats how you wanna use your phone. You paid for the features

[forest lotus]

To protect the battery

[median warren]

how dodgy is it to buy a 2nd power supply

[forest lotus]

I set the limit myself I can remove it but I have no need to

[south arrow]

Ive used at least 5 and had an issue with 0

[forest lotus]

I still get a days charge with it

[median warren]

okay thats good

[south arrow]

As long as you test your system upon receiving it and it withstands cinebench, 3dmark runs, and a gaming sesh

Without shutting down

[forest lotus]

I do like that the p10pxl modem is not actually shit for once lol

[ebon marlin]

I have a power supply I bought from a crypto miner multiple years ago for cheap

[median warren]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[ebon marlin]

I've been using that same power supply daily across multiple pc builds

[forest lotus]

I have the mother of all routers lol

[median warren]

im trying to build a minecraft server, and found this crazy deal: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2018167765456635/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&locale=en_GB

[ebon marlin]

It's currently running a 7800x3d and a 5070

[median warren]

oh yeah i mean mine wont be consuming nowhere near that power

[forest lotus]

My router is a 2600K and a bunch of NICs

[median warren]

literally just running the cpu, some fans and storage

[forest lotus]

It's so funny when I can actually say

[ebon marlin]

not bad

[median warren]

for £95, WITH RAM its great

[south arrow]

Crypto bros can be a solid way to get cheap hardware especially rn. All the miners are working ins secrets

[forest lotus]

My homebuilt router will lap almost any consumer router on what 15 year old hardware

[south arrow]

Profits suck so they gotta hoard the minee

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-keep-it-safe-secret-lord-of-the-rings-gif-13760065

But to those not in the secret mines are downsizing cause electric sucks alooots

[ivory mountain]

it doesnt do anything anymore lowkey

[forest lotus]

Actually it still does

[ivory mountain]

my battery health at 94% since december 2024

[ebon marlin]

I got this i5 7500T minipc for my Minecraft server it was like 8gb/2x256GB for 70€

[forest lotus]

And so far from Feb 2026 till now I'm at 40 total cycles

[south arrow]

Recently entered my Minecraft world its been so long

[median warren]

hell yeah

[ivory mountain]

i lost my save when i reinstalled windows i forgot to backup

[ebon marlin]

0 slowdown running heavy modpacks with 2 ppl loading up chunks constantly with a 16 render distance

[south arrow]

I spent over a month doing gbc id be so sad

[ebon marlin]

Upgraded ram to 16gb since I had an additional 8gb stick

[ivory mountain]

lemme join ur server and run bobby 512 chunks

[ebon marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940985406797803602/1487505820550955118/twitter_2036867531965657175.gif

[grizzled frost]

funnily enough, it's not that hard on a server

it's mostly laggy on the client

[ebon marlin]

I need to configure my linux server and pelican panel again since I switched networks and places

New router aswell

[south arrow]

Just build an old nether portal farm machine, doesnt give portal blocks anymore last I checked but does spawn a ton of pigmen for lag machines xD

[grizzled frost]

best lag machine is just a fuck load of redstone

1tick clock, and a chunk full of redstone, forcing millions of updates per second

[south arrow]

Those dudes who build computers and storage systems are mad lads

[lament kelp]

If someone can help me at tech support i appreciate it.

[grizzled frost]

i'm not an archaelogist, no idea how to help you

[south arrow]

I still wonder how stratos Yoda is doing and obi, who was the other light heart noo something heart, richheart maybe smth

But that was many years ago

[lament kelp]

Well solid answer lmao

[craggy wigeon]

do i need new hinges when its like this from no whare or is it my clutch cover? (mac book pro mid 2009)

[south arrow]

I am but a dinosaur , so like rawr and stuff

[grizzled frost]

hinges bad, buy a new mac that isn't a fossil

[craggy wigeon]

damn some one know whare i can get new replacments then?

[ebon marlin]

550€ for a pixel 8

[south arrow]

Iroh you got any crazy mc builds?

Or cattos?

[ebon marlin]

nah i'm not a builder

[south arrow]

Thats fair I just like to break things (I like unobtainables)

Using the nether portal block in the end and creating ghost version of youreself

Making ghost blocks/cursed tiles

[ebon marlin]

I really liked Society Sunlit Valley (copy of stardew valley but in minecraft) as it just gave me a house with the click of a button

played alot of it was very fun

[south arrow]

Keks

[ebon marlin]

mmm minecraft pocket edition

[south arrow]

Its bedrock but to do gravity block conversion have to be on one of the first few revisions of the game then beat the dragon and setup a gravity conversion portal to get unobtainables like command blocks, nether reactors, red obsidian etc (essentially every block in the game) then updating to a later version on current now

I dont think I have portal blocks though (the purple nether ones, i have end portal blocks both varients) I didnt get the block when the exploit was available so myte have to figure that out at some point

Then used nether shulker duplication glitch for resources

[ebon marlin]

what the hell is the difference between 2 even

left is nordic layout and right is US layout but the one on the left doesn't mention it's compatible with the MSI Modern C7M

they even seem to have the same ribbon cables

but both listing also have C12M0 as a supported model aswell

also how the hell can a 16:9 1920x1080 screen be wuxga?

[south arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-jim-halpert-different-but-not-really-different-not-different-gif-25538137

[solar minnow]

my laptop broke during a stressful busy exam period in college. I need help creating a more structured approach to deciding what laptop to buy. My mental energy is being pulled due to exams so want to be able to decide on laptop withoit having to rip apart my brains.

[south arrow]

Lol

[ebon marlin]

macbook neo with student discount?

[serene pumice]

Just imagine how good emulated NES games are going to look with DLSS 5

[tulip sparrow]

facepalms Just no

[median warren]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1458167292379986/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&locale=en_GB

"two for sale", sooooo 2x16GB of 7200mhz ddr5 is being sold for £120, so you could get 64gb of DDR5 ram for £240?

cant be real, seems too good

[left crag]

Anyone tested zfs rewrite here yet?

[latent gull]

good luck running it at 7200 with 4 slots

[median warren]

this is true, but still

64gb for £240

who wouldnt buy that with the current ram prices

[latent gull]

me

[median warren]

fair

[modest sandal]

Guys which powerplan in windows should i use on 9800x3d and 9070xt?

[south arrow]

UwU

[left crag]

Balanced

[rigid fjord]

hehehehe, to much.....

[severe mirage]

im building an am5 system, plan is to use 7800x3d and later upgrade to 9x
got a x670he for cheap, should i resell it and opt for a different board? i wanted to tighten timings on a 6000 30 kit as well

[rigid fjord]

yes, b650 or go b850 instead

[severe mirage]

possible to tighten ram timings on those? also no issues connector wise?

(i just need 2-3 m2 slots)

[grizzled frost]

both are unlocked for ram OC

[rigid fjord]

easily, and yes, 2-3 m.2 slots by default

cpu OC also on amd 'B' sku's

[severe mirage]

ok thanks I guess im selling this absolute beauty altho it is quite appealing in presentation

is there any particular board youd recommend?

[grizzled frost]

anything not asrock

[severe mirage]

i usually stuck to msi or asus in the past

[rigid fjord]

tbh, that's more of anything not x670/x670e/x870/x870e depending on the x3d cpu

if you want a ton of rear I/O, i would suggest an asrock livemixer

if you want more storage, i'd look at an msi carbon

b650 version has 4x nvme slots with 6-8 sata ports

b850 version pretty much the same

[ebon marlin]

I got an Asrock B850 Livemixer

Goated mobo

[severe mirage]

theres nothing im missing out on right? like idk pcie 5 or something and some sort of theoretical latency or performance uplift

[ebon marlin]

Nah

[ebon marlin]

B850 has 3 nvme slots

Oh wait msi carbon nvm

[rigid fjord]

nope, totally fine with pcie 4.0 tbh, pcie 5.0 isn't going to give you any better

[severe mirage]

kk got it

should i sell this ddr5 too and try to rebuy it cheaper in like a month or two?

[rigid fjord]

b650 carbon btw

[rigid fjord]

no, keep it

[severe mirage]

and you think things such as capacitors and vrms and shit dont matter too much for x3d systems right

[rigid fjord]

don't matter so much for amd in general tbh, and the 'B' boards thend to have better vrm's over 'X' boards

[ebon marlin]

For reference the worst A320 board can run a 5950x at full power with no issues

[severe mirage]

yeah makes sense id just wanna tighten ram timings and do the -30 curve thing on the cpu and call it a day

[rigid fjord]

it'll pbo a 5950x to 5ghz

[ebon marlin]

X3D cpus also just sip power they consume the least amount of power out of every AMD CPU

[grizzled frost]

goodluck on that -30mv offset

[rigid fjord]

has to be a golden cpu for -30

[grizzled frost]

yeah i only ever got -20mv to work

[severe mirage]

oh

[grizzled frost]

(7800x3d)

[severe mirage]

-20 then 🤔

[grizzled frost]

i also have a slightly above average binned CPU

Not a lot, but slightly above average according to 3d mark CPU bench

[severe mirage]

its a hero board btw

the packaging is almost as big as my current case

[ebon marlin]

Hero board and only tune that'll be done is just XMP enabled

[severe mirage]

😭

[ebon marlin]

Most pointless purchase of all time

[severe mirage]

hero board so you can do 6000 cl27 instead of cl28

copium

[ebon marlin]

The board is irrelevant on memory overclocking

What actually matters is the cpu itself if it's IMC can handle it

[severe mirage]

alright then i cant with good conscience keep it

so amd is all about cpu binning then

[ebon marlin]

Basically

[severe mirage]

so a-dies or m-dies doesnt even matter for timings either?

i got m-dies i think

[rigid fjord]

just means certain ones can tune better than others

[ebon marlin]

Hynix A die is best for speeds and Hynix M die is best for latencies

[sinful cobalt]

you dont do -30 and call it a day without stability testing 💀

[severe mirage]

it just has to be game stable 😏

[wispy thunder]

barely. Just get A die lmao

[sinful cobalt]

if its unstable it doesnt matter

[ivory mountain]

lol u cant even do -20 and call it a day tf u think u can do -30 for

[severe mirage]

1 match of cs2, no crash? k we good

[wispy thunder]

and if u can't get Hynix A die, then fallback to M die

[grizzled frost]

It won't be, unless you get a golden chip

[rigid fjord]

that is not how you test if it's stable

[grizzled frost]

a golden chip that can run -30mv out of the box is less than 1/1000

[sinful cobalt]

mf gonna be back tmr saying “its crashing”

[odd marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-happy-joyful-pleased-gif-21430457

[wispy thunder]

i use testmem5 with a preset that I DO NOT remember, since for some reason Y cruncher never ran stable even when I know the ram is stable for me

[severe mirage]

whats something thats "expected" out of the box? ill take whatever fire and forget tweak i can get

[sinful cobalt]

what chip

[severe mirage]

7800x3d for now

[grizzled frost]

-20mv

[sinful cobalt]

-10

[grizzled frost]

-10 is guaranteed, -20 is fairly likely

[sinful cobalt]

finna see another turd

[odd marsh]

why undervolt a 7800X3D

[severe mirage]

and ram, anything? like maybe 6400 cl28? or too optimistic

[odd marsh]

Just run 6000 and like cl30

[rigid fjord]

extreme or pcb destroyer, my guess

[severe mirage]

thats the kits base spec

[sinful cobalt]

i wont even try over expo if you’re not willing to learn and spend a lot of time

[grizzled frost]

Commonly done in the SFF space, helps with some of the heat output when you're cooling limited

[odd marsh]

yah that's all you need for AM5 atm

[wispy thunder]

for Ryzen 7000? getting 6000 stable is already pretty good

[severe mirage]

hm, ill hopefully at least get tighter timings without spending an entire week doing nothing but ram oc

[wispy thunder]

this is first gen ddr5 imc we're talking about.

[rigid fjord]

nope, that's it's advertised xmp profile

[odd marsh]

I guess, but like it's just 90w for a 7800x3d you know

[wispy thunder]

Run 6000 CL30 (assuming hynix A die) and set FCLK to 2033... for some reason.

[rigid fjord]

base spec for that kit is something like 4800 cl40-46

[grizzled frost]

Yeah as i said, it mostly matters in the SFF space where you're majorly limited on cooling capacity

[severe mirage]

[wispy thunder]

that's jedec and it really depends. You may run into kits that offer a jedec 4800 CL40-40-40 (jedec is almost always flat timings), but basically any kit made in the past 2ish years? has also offered a jedec 5600 CL46

in fact there was the really cheap A die kit from Team that was 5600CL46 which people dismissed not realizing it was an A die kit that they didn't load an XMP/EXPO profile onto

until a bit later

[rigid fjord]

true, but base speed on any kit = jedec, and it's usually the lowest of the jedec speeds per ddr gen

[wispy thunder]

yep

my kit offers 4800 CL40 flat timings, as well as a 5600 CL46 flat timings

again both are jedec "standard" speeds

but it's a 6000 CL30 A die kit

normally though if you see non-jedec primary timings but they're flat, that oftentimes indicates samsung chips

and most A die kits offer either similar or the same XMP/EXPO profiles

iirc, if you get a 6000 CL30-36-36-76 then it's basically guaranteed A die...

[sinful cobalt]

The best DDR5 ram is the ram you can afford if you can even

[rigid fjord]

those new to pc building expect the ram to run at their advertised speed without realising the xmp profile for that speed has to be enabled to get it to run at said advertised speed

[wispy thunder]

well allegedly we shoulsee it come down hopefully this year actually.

I don't think it'll ever settle to what it used to be though

not for a generation or two.

[rigid fjord]

nah, it'll normalize til 2027, after that then we'll see actual price drops

[gaunt spade]

what if i can afford 4800 mhz cl 67 only

[rigid fjord]

doesn't exist

[lament kelp]

weird why roblox is freezing but any another games doesn't on the newest amd drivers for my rx 580

like after one hour my pc is freezing for 1 min then back to normal but is a white screen from the roblox app and is stock with only the cursor working

and is so fucking weird and anything then just reinstalling my drivers i don't have any another choice

but like for only roblox is not worth it my cs2 is working just fine

[stray portal]

yall recommend me some good video editors

im kinda tired of using an outdated version of something

[lament kelp]

have money? adoby, No money? davinci resolve

[stray portal]

more simple

[lament kelp]

idk

[stray portal]

davinci is complicated for no good reason and adobe sucks

[lament kelp]

filmora?...

or final cut pro i have no idea sorry

filmora i think is the best choice for you

[unborn cargo]

Capcut? i know its basic but its simple

and try capcut

[mortal mantle]

how big of a issue is this

[unborn cargo]

if u can on phone the water mark is bit more subtle

[unborn cargo]

[north hill]

how do yall feel about the 1080-Ti? i've been thinking about getting one for my unfinished desktop cuz i just really want to get the damn thing done and don't want to spend like $700 USD on some new card. from what i've heard, the 1080-Ti is still a pretty decent card so it doesn't seem like a bad option in my mind. i'd probably only have it for a year or two before upgrading to something newer

definitely an upgrade over my 1050M lmao

[rancid agate]

Is it a lot of work to reinstall drivers

[severe mirage]

i just wish i would have copped a good ddr5 kit when they became "cheap"

spending this much on ram at current prices feels absolutely terrible

[rancid agate]

Just get a 5060 Ti FE for MSRP

[odd marsh]

I'd really try and go for something 20 or even 30 series if you can, DLSS is a game changer

[severe mirage]

3060ti used for like 150 if you are lucky

[rancid agate]

Nvm there is no FE

[north hill]

do i need to point to the sign about DLSS?

[odd marsh]

idk what sign you are talking about

[rancid agate]

DLSS haters are goofballs it’s great tech

[severe mirage]

is there any better price performance than a used 3060ti for 200$?

[north hill]

even if it runs like complete trash, i will refuse to use DLSS

[sinful cobalt]

no it’ll be in 2028 since contracts are still in place

[sinful cobalt]

7 minutes. 7 minutes is all it takes for me to beat the absolute sh-

[odd marsh]

you're missing out, I use DLSS whenever I can, even when I run the game well 🤷

[mortal mantle]

what the fuck is this

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/fsr-gif-22015334

[mortal mantle]

(from WizTree on my boot drive)

[north hill]

i have used a 1050M for like 6 years now, i really don't need some AI smearing my game up

if i can't run it well, i simply turn the settings down

[odd marsh]

you do know that DLSS has been found to be visually no different from native

I'm talking upscaling not FG

[ivory mountain]

cook

[rancid agate]

Memory fabrication factories are what will relieve supply demand

Lookin like production should be ramped up by first half of 2028

[north hill]

found the thing i was mentioning

[severe mirage]

amd for pure raster performance

[lament kelp]

I am exactly like this meme, like if the game is not working instead of using fsr i just don't play it

[odd marsh]

missing out man

[north hill]

AI, regardless of what its used for, has annoyed the SHIT out of me for the past 3 or so years now

so no more AI, please...

[rancid agate]

It’s a low end gaming mentality bc when you have a 270hz HDR OLED monitor and a $2.5k pc you love DLSS-SR for giving you free frames and better input latency

[stray portal]

i feel like dlss is only useful for low end cards or very high resolutions, because otherwise gpus can handle most games just fine

Like my 7800xt can handle both 1080p and 1440p (ultrawide and non ultrawide) perfectly, on high to ultra settings and still get a lot of fps

[mortal mantle]

how bad is FSR here

[rancid agate]

whatever floats your boat but if visually it looks the same or better, seems like a funny hill to die on because it’s not like it’s actually contributing to server load at an AI data center lmao it’s just a machine learning modeled algorithm

[stray portal]

But if AI is generating the frames, is it still the same game?

[north hill]

i understand that it isn't using some datacenter, but i just don't want some half-baked AI interpolating my frames

[rancid agate]

I said DLSS-SR

[stray portal]

If AI is your power then what are you without it?

[mortal mantle]

and I just have FidelityFX Super Resolution enabled for RPCS3 lol

[stray portal]

Also, AI frames dont look as sharp as real frames

[north hill]

seems like the 1080-Ti kinda kicks the ass of the 3060-Ti?

[rancid agate]

This is getting silly. Gg

[north hill]

just a lil bit

[ivory mountain]

rpcs3 mentioned

[ivory mountain]

id rather die than use a 1080ti in 2026

[lament kelp]

For me AI is just a tool is nothing else.

[north hill]

AI is why i can't afford a new PC :)

[lament kelp]

because of AI i am fucking stuck on a rx 580 4gb i3 9100 and 32gb of ddr4🥀

[north hill]

1050M over here...

[stray portal]

My friend had a gtx 1080 and still would get like 60-100fps on 1080p on low settings

[unborn cargo]

because of unemployment i am stuck on laptop

[north hill]

the 1080 and 1080-Ti are quite different

[ivory mountain]

the rx 580 was discontinued for years before the memory shortage was even thought about, this isnt the memory shortage fault, youre just late

[stray portal]

Maybe the TI is better but his 1080 was decent

[stray portal]

Still good tho, all you need is a gpu upgrade

[north hill]

i can get a 1080-Ti rn for like $140

[lament kelp]

man if you are broke, you are broke and now when i finally have some money the memory shortage begins

[north hill]

box and all

[lament kelp]

well i think a cpu too tho i have 100% cpu usage on almost any games i play even cs2

[stray portal]

Im glad because i got my pc right before pc market went to shit, november 2024

[knotty pike]

I hate the fact I paid $150 for a mouse.

[stray portal]

Wow its already been 1 and a half years time goes by so fast

[sinful cobalt]

i love using DLSS 4.5 Performance at 4K

[odd marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-training-day-gif-16743259178450786472

[severe mirage]

no

[lament kelp]

i paid 17$ for my razer deathadder

[sinful cobalt]

If it makes you feel better I paid the same for my beast x max and Im boutta do another for the huan

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-greetings-hi-hello-salutations-gif-10837818968891611424

[north hill]

just "no"? no argument?

[severe mirage]

yes

[stray portal]

Razer mice are the best

[ivory mountain]

1080ti glaze needs to be stopped its insane how glazed it is

[lament kelp]

I play cs2 with 1050p with fsr at ultra performance with fsr 2.0😍😍😍 and i get no performance difference then just using native lmao

[knotty pike]

I bought the v3 version of that.

[sinful cobalt]

you have got to be infested with tiktok if you’re still glazing the 1080ti in 2026 and even 2025

[severe mirage]

the v3 da is damn solid

especially for how c heap it is

[lament kelp]

that's just a cpu bottleneck ngl

[sinful cobalt]

razer bad
all my homies hate razer

[north hill]

is it complete shit or something? 11gb of GDDR5X VRAM is pretty good i think

[lament kelp]

like well fsr is good for the gpu if is a bottleneck but if my cpu is gonna make no difference

[knotty pike]

Is it really worth $150 though? I did get it $80 off at least.

[stray portal]

Better than logitech

[severe mirage]

low sensor latency, low click latency, good coating i just dont like the optical clicks too much, other than that very good

[north hill]

for one in amazing shape with the original box? sure i guess

[odd marsh]

one of these is DLAA one of these is DLSS performance, pretty damn hard to tell

[severe mirage]

bruh

[knotty pike]

I got it unopened too.

[sinful cobalt]

logitech also isnt safe but it isnt as bad

[north hill]

is 8gb with the 3060-Ti somehow better?

this isn't golf

[sinful cobalt]

I’d say both have DL in it

[ivory mountain]

its barely better than a 3060 in raster while being nearly 10 years old and not being supported anymore

the only upscaler it can really use is fsr2 and fsr2 is horse shit

[knotty pike]

My previous mouse was a logitech super light.

[severe mirage]

whats bad about razer?

[lament kelp]

the second is dlss i think but damn looks the same

[north hill]

as i said like 3000000000 times before, i am NOT going to use an upscaler

pure raster

[knotty pike]

My super light I got on sale ages ago for like $90.

[sinful cobalt]

its a fuckin power hogger on a dead driverset with no relevant features in today’s era just let it die in peace

[sinful cobalt]

everything

[stray portal]

brand loyalty is a scam honestly so i just buy from my experience and such, the fact all my current peripherals are razer is just a coincidence (theyre all great)

[ivory mountain]

lol ok then enjoy your 10 year old card idk what to tell you

[severe mirage]

its better without an upscaler too. why do you need so much vram? you arent gonna play 4k ultra with a 200 dollar card

[north hill]

how 'bout i bump it up a generation? 2080-Ti

[sinful cobalt]

yeah no fuck razer entirely, fuck logitech though its way less

[ivory mountain]

i mean what is your budget?

[knotty pike]

Just like my past logitech mice, the scroll wheel went then the right click started double clicking within 2 years rouphly.

[odd marsh]

you are right, but keep in mind this is an internal render scale of 1920x1080p. If I used quality it's super hard to tell

[north hill]

around $200 USD

[stray portal]

Boo i love razer

[north hill]

i just need a card for like a year or two

[sinful cobalt]

i love nitpicking my pixels in motion instead of playing the game

[lament kelp]

well then nice that dlss got this far my fsr 2.0 on cs2 even on ultra quality looks so ass lmao but tho is old

[north hill]

something that is a definitive upgrade over my current 1050M 3gb

[sinful cobalt]

used to be good now they just pump out ewaste since like 2020

[odd marsh]

yeah older models especially FSR is real bad

[knotty pike]

I hope my razor mouse lasts me an extremely long time unlike logitech.

[severe mirage]

ok then get a 1080ti and shut up about it

[north hill]

like, all i need left is the motherboard and CPU to get it at least in a running state

[stray portal]

it depends on the product honestly, the higher end stuff is good

[lament kelp]

my rx 580 is sadly stuck at max 3.1 sadly

[knotty pike]

Only good thing logitech does is keyboards.

[stray portal]

like my basilisk v3 is peak mouseing

[odd marsh]

that's the thing, we can compare still images all we want but the game in motion just looks great lol

[north hill]

no need to be rude...

[severe mirage]

id never get a logi nor a razer keyboard

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/does-he-know-stupid-is-he-stupid-he-is-riddler-gif-1064212065141466323

[stray portal]

logitech does the worst keyboards wdym

[north hill]

their mice are pretty good

[stray portal]

literally the worst thing logitech does is keyboard

[north hill]

my logitech keyboard used to have a backlight, then it stopped working lol

why? no clue at all

[stray portal]

https://tenor.com/view/are-we-deserving-ben-hate-ben-jammins-benjammins-benjammins-hater-gif-6638776108599468826

[ivory mountain]

larp

[sinful cobalt]

logitech and razer at the awards when it comes to making the shittiest keyboards

razer earning the WOAT title for their fucking shit software

[rigid fjord]

poor clone of a g502, wouldn't touch

[stray portal]

please inform yourself, as of recently the basilisk series is better than g502 series

[formal sonnet]

Nah. Like all companies, they make good and bad products. I miss their old keyboards back when they were still using Cherry MX switches. Some of their mice definitely didn't receive enough QA testing though, as they would have caught the mice with double-clicking switches. But overall most of their mice have been decent.

[sinful cobalt]

if its not a superstrike X2 Im not considering logitech at all- X2 is still low on my list

Im entirely shutting out razer

[rigid fjord]

razer with the small print admitting that synapse is a keylogger

[gaunt spade]

https://giphy.com/gifs/gguh-bro-used-benjammins-realbull-zppAhlRkb8sbSJ6yY2

[sinful cobalt]

trash vs garbage

[north hill]

as for the CPU of my build, i've been looking at the AMD Ryzen 9 5900X

[gaunt spade]

i sold my logitech for 3x profit today

[north hill]

the 5700X3D is too much more for me to care tbh

[formal sonnet]

Right? Razer hardware? Mostly decent. Razer software? I'd rather install malware on my computer, then attempt to clean it up after.

[stray portal]

synapse is fine tho

[sinful cobalt]

malware

[stray portal]

why does nobody like synapse its good

[rigid fjord]

the mice is just as bad tbh, quite literally a hardware based root kit

[severe mirage]

mice are subjective, I reached quite high elo on a DA v3 so

[rigid fjord]

the smallprint

[formal sonnet]

Oof. They've gotten that bad eh? To be fair, I haven't kept up with the nuances of Razer's hardware since late 2015.

[rancid agate]

I haven’t experimented much. I usually just use 4.5 Quality since it looks the same or better than native on most games

[sinful cobalt]

this is why we can never agree on anything

this right here is the problem

synapse deserves to be in the lowest level of hell

[stray portal]

😢

[sinful cobalt]

4.5 performance at 4K is the goat

[stray portal]

well uh probably every other company does it too they just dont admit it

[rigid fjord]

they've essentially been that bad from the get go, the fact that you can plug in their mice and get around admin lockout because of it, is just.....

[formal sonnet]

Admin lockout? Wait, does plugging in their mice cause windows to attempt auto installing their software, which requires admin rights?

[stray portal]

im crying i didnt get the achievement for finishing wolfenstein on hard difficulty because i changed it at the begining to test it out

[rancid agate]

I have a 4070 Ti Super so I just copped a nice 3440x1440 OLED and it chugs around 150fps with max graphics and DLSS-SR Quality on most games

[sinful cobalt]

razer synapse deserves a punishment worse than death

[rigid fjord]

yes

[severe mirage]

still. both razer and logitech consistently scored at the very top in terms of performance

[stray portal]

now im playing the new order tho, after i finish all the games i will go back and complete each one

[sinful cobalt]

nice

[rigid fjord]

it installs as admin privileges@formal sonnet

[sinful cobalt]

you better watch out when you’re outside you might see a flying fridge that was thrown towards you

[stray portal]

bro who designed this this is horrible why is it left ctrl and not c

[rigid fjord]

because of this, you can get admin access in an account that's essentially a guest/basic user

[rancid agate]

Isn’t this a pretty normal Win11 thing you can turn off with winutil/Shutup10?

[formal sonnet]

Sigh. Tenor's API changes are another gear grinding topic. Anywho...
https://tenor.com/view/anime-frieren-beyond-the-journeys-end-beyond-the-journeys-end-sousou-no-frieren-heiter-gif-1797657522824292608

[stone tartan]

Nobody listen to @north hill he’s schizophrenic

[ionic peak]

Is this good?

[rigid fjord]

yes but the issue is more of, accounts that are suppose to not be able to install stuff, can use the mouse and install stuff as if they're admin because of it

[ionic peak]

I bought 2x 16gb 3200mhz ddr4

[lament kelp]

i have the same kit of ram lmao is cl16 tho?

[ionic peak]

Ill look

[north hill]

this is true

[lament kelp]

i remember that they costed me 90$ for the cl16 model

[rancid agate]

That’s bizarre. But realistically the whole startup repair cmd exploit has been around for years if you really wanna get admin on the average computer

[north hill]

ok, i found an RTX 2080-Ti for like $210 USD and its a Dell OEM. is it any good?

probably is, but i need someone with more knowledge to tell me

[ionic peak]

Where is the label for that

[rigid fjord]

read through ghub's smallprint, nothing in there in regards to monitoring sites you look at nor typing patterns

[rancid agate]

Does it have a blower?

[lament kelp]

idk needs do be on the site where you bought it

[north hill]

has a fan

[ionic peak]

I paid 130 😭

[rigid fjord]

dell oem card, good chance that it is

[north hill]

does that count?

[lament kelp]

damn

[ionic peak]

Its new but used

[north hill]

imag

[lament kelp]

used damn, i bought mine brand new

[rigid fjord]

blower model

[ionic peak]

The guy bought ddr4 for his am5 build

[north hill]

so its good?

[rancid agate]

Price seems right either way. But older blower cards usually have thermal throttling

[rigid fjord]

it's going to be loud

[north hill]

i don't care lol

my laptop is louder

[ionic peak]

Then he let it sit on his tabel

[rigid fjord]

though for $210 usd, could grab an rx6700xt

[ionic peak]

I once cleaned my friends one

Dusty as heck

Like 3 to 1cm carpet

[stone tartan]

@north hill get an arc b580

[ionic peak]

But mostly on the heatsink 5mm

[rancid agate]

I honestly would. Because he said it’s to finish a build so I’m assuming the CPU is newer / substantial enough

[stone tartan]

He told me he wouldn’t cuz he doesn’t “trust” intel 💀😭

[lament kelp]

i remember when i seen 64gb ddr4 3200mhz brand new at 140$ but i said "nah not Worth it" probably if i bought it i was already in a Ferrari

lmao

[ionic peak]

Ye

[rancid agate]

Jan2025

[lament kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/flightreacts-reaction-flight-reacts-flight-reacts-flightreacts-gif-14526489174047821058

damn you did bad

[rancid agate]

6000Mhz CL30 too

[rigid fjord]

requires having rebar enabled also 4g decoding, otherwise performance may suck

[rancid agate]

And a pretty decent cpu

[rigid fjord]

a decent cpu lets you enable them tbh

so it's a given

[rancid agate]

Idk if they fixed it but even with those features enabled there was a high driver overhead causing ppl to be CPU bound pretty badly on like 5700X / i5-12700F Etc

[ionic peak]

Now its 300

[rancid agate]

$380 I think

[ionic peak]

Rich

[south arrow]

[ionic peak]

Hello

[north hill]

hell naw

[rancid agate]

the tariffs in the U.S. are the cherry on top cuz you can’t even save money and gamble on some Chinese RAM lmao

[severe mirage]

holy hell, i had the lingering feeling i should have bought d5 when it first became cheap too

[north hill]

isn't that a weaker card?

[rotund mirage]

Holy shit fibre optic internet is the shit

[rigid fjord]

mildly weaker a performance, but more vram

[severe mirage]

slower than the 3060ti, no?

[rigid fjord]

no, better than a 3060ti tbh

[ebon marlin]

i mean it's understandable since Intel is using people like you to pay to do beta testing for them lol

[rancid agate]

Built my wife’s PC in Jan2025 got a Ryzen 7 7700 and 6000mhz CL30 and a 5060Ti 16GB and a X870, B+ PSU, pink RGB case…. Whole build was around $1000 after tax lol.

Sometimes your purchase timing is accidentally perfect and it feels so good lmao

[ebon marlin]

my current pc is at the same price point but 7800x3d and 5070

although I did pay additional 100 bucks to switch to a different cooler so 1100 bucks with the new cooler

[north hill]

how much more?

wow, one more gigabyte of VRAM...

[ionic peak]

Whats your budget

[north hill]

like $220

[rancid agate]

I opted for the 5060 Ti 16GB cuz she plays on a 1080p projector and just plays casual games so MFG (high VRAM consumption) will make the whole thing last her a long time

[north hill]

the 2080-Ti i'm looking at could sell for like $210

[stone tartan]

Yeah but captainofpie sucks so I can’t agree with him

[north hill]

i do

i am a total chud

[stone tartan]

Me 3 bestie

Dude I’ve been in this server since 2019 and never once said anything until today

[rancid agate]

2080 Ti is your best bet at that price point but try to get a non-blower

[stone tartan]

Pie ur gonna get 860m graphics and you’re going to like it!!

[rancid agate]

If you’re not gonna use the NVIDIA driver suite for more performance tho may as well spend $250-$300 on AMD for more raster and vram

[north hill]

in all seriousness i really don't care about noise

my laptop will ALWAYS be louder than any GPU

[rancid agate]

They just usually have thermal throttling unless you repaste it

[north hill]

i have thermal paste, so everything is good

here we go boys

[gaunt spade]

max settings on all games

[north hill]

baby's first GPU

[ionic peak]

I can get an 2080s or 2080 ti

[north hill]

...or second

[obsidian cosmos]

guys i got computer

[north hill]

second from the 1050M that has been torturing me for the past 6 years

[ionic peak]

I got ram

[rancid agate]

OEM card also has the nice probability of not being used by someone trying to hop on the BTC mining craze of the time period

[stone tartan]

Mine was amd a8 mobile graphics from like 2014

[north hill]

i have a laptop with that i think

AMD Vision A6

HP Pavilion

[stone tartan]

Truly a powerhouse (I couldn’t even run fallout 4 at low settings on 540p)

[gaunt spade]

why

[ionic peak]

I got some radeon with i7 2680 qm

[obsidian cosmos]

me too

[ionic peak]

Nice

[hexed tapir]

Bro flexing his $200 kit

[stone tartan]

Yummy 2nd gen i7

[ionic peak]

Im happy to upgrade from gskill paper cooled ram

[obsidian cosmos]

how much space should my C partition have

150? 200?

[ionic peak]

Im just happy not flexing

[rancid agate]

Because it’s OEM and a lot of the people who were doing it were using cards they bought for it

[stone tartan]

2 gazzilion gb

(I’m lazy and don’t partition) I don’t really think there’s that many reasons to partition anymore

[obsidian cosmos]

i have 1tb nvme

[ionic peak]

2 infinity

[stone tartan]

Are you asking how much to have free or are you going to partition it

[rancid agate]

4TB

[hexed tapir]

People partition drives?

[ivory mountain]

Weirdos do yeah

[obsidian cosmos]

i think i’ll partition it so i dont clog up the c drive

[exotic cape]

What about this?

[obsidian cosmos]

like 200gb for just windows should be fine

[stone tartan]

Meh not really any reasons to partition an SSD

[obsidian cosmos]

okay then

[hexed tapir]

This isn't the old boomer hard drive days we don't need to partition

[hexed tapir]

Damn 64gb ddr5

[stone tartan]

HDDs were good to partition to get faster speeds on one partition by short stroking the drive or something like that

[rancid agate]

Can partition 85% of usable capacity and use your OS visible storage capacity limit as a safer “100%” and avoid wear/tear/slowdown… that’s pretty much it for me

[obsidian cosmos]

okay i didn’t partition

[ivory mountain]

Am5 mentioned

[exotic cape]

It was cheap....

[stone tartan]

Isn’t wear and tear on an ssd managed by firmware and evens spread out regardless of host OS partition?

[ebon marlin]

3400 bomboclat bucks

[exotic cape]

This was in August last year tho 🙁

[rancid agate]

Well if you’re truly at 90%+ disk space usage it slows down and interferes with that process causing more wear n tear

[gaunt spade]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-mafia-mafia-money-gif-12714856527416165903

[obsidian cosmos]

excuse my dusty keyboard

[rancid agate]

I think they really recommend 20% free space for it to do its thing properly on 3D NAND

[stone tartan]

Oh

[obsidian cosmos]

how do i downclock ram

[stone tartan]

Usually bios

[rancid agate]

64GB

[exotic cape]

Today price.

[obsidian cosmos]

fucking hell

[exotic cape]

That's $1499

[hexed tapir]

Two mobos to sli them together

[rotund mirage]

damn i been missing out

first time having gigabit speeds

fibre optic

[stone tartan]

Fuck bro I was thinking bout upgrading to AM5 and DDR5 last August then lost my job around that time

[obsidian cosmos]

im just freeloading off my parents for now

well i did save up half the cost basically

[stone tartan]

Well I do have a job now but I’m not going to pay those prices 😭

[hexed tapir]

How old are yeee

[obsidian cosmos]

17

[gaunt spade]

please stop sayng slurs

[stone tartan]

I’d rather just wait a gazzilion years

[hexed tapir]

Oh not an adult it's fine

[gaunt spade]

old man

[stone tartan]

Unc

[rancid agate]

Well if you look at it this way, market pressure will be relieved in 2028, and all the wealthy people who wasted 3x spending to panic buy parts this year will be panic buying new tech in 2028 and probably selling their 2026 gear for good deals, used market will also be thriving once fabs go up if you’re down for used parts

[obsidian cosmos]

i didn’t know that usb sticks get so warm when you download stuff on them

[stone tartan]

I haven’t looked into the memory crisis in over a month now, are fans now agreeing to build more fabs to ramp up production?

[stone tartan]

Yeup when you read and write from those chips they create heat

[hexed tapir]

By the time ddr5 fabs are built ddr6 will be out

[obsidian cosmos]

uh

i can’t log into my microsoft account

[stone tartan]

Unfortunately our technology isn’t 100% efficient which often leads to that energy being turned into heat

[obsidian cosmos]

oh i can

[gaunt spade]

ddr6 will never come out

[stone tartan]

DDR8 when

[ivory mountain]

this is the method

[obsidian cosmos]

uh

what do i do

nothing is showing up

[ivory mountain]

imagine not using a local account

[stone tartan]

Oh microslop

[hexed tapir]

Help Microsoft defeat robots

[obsidian cosmos]

okay

it worked

on the third try

[ivory mountain]

Did you defeat the robots

[obsidian cosmos]

i hope so

[stone tartan]

[obsidian cosmos]

old vs new

[gaunt spade]

whats inside

[rotund mirage]

Guys is this good speed

[stone tartan]

Very much so yes

[obsidian cosmos]

old one
r3 2200g
4x4 ddr4 2133 (but windows registers it as 1500)
rx580 8gb

[gaunt spade]

you leaked ur ip

[rotund mirage]

?

[obsidian cosmos]

and new one is
r5 9600x
2x16gb 7000mHz ddr5
rtx 5070

[hexed tapir]

Leaking p is never good

[rotund mirage]

how i dont see the numbers

[stone tartan]

I leak p then get sued

[rotund mirage]

unless your into it leaky p pants

[hexed tapir]

Trolling/joking

[gaunt spade]

why on floor

[gaunt spade]

mustve been the wind

[rotund mirage]

what dou men

i dont see the numbers

[stone tartan]

[obsidian cosmos]

dont have anywhere else to put it

[gaunt spade]

lap

[gaunt spade]

ones and zeros

[rotund mirage]

wrong server lmao

[stone tartan]

[rotund mirage]

that can stay though because WTF

how does that even happen

[stone tartan]

KitKat crime in the big 26?

[rotund mirage]

12 tons

[rancid agate]

AFAIK there’s newer/smaller Taiwanese and Chinese companies that decided to shell out / got investing for fabs since there’s such a gap in the market it’s a pretty safe ROI…

And it’s for memory chips in general lol it’s not just RAM.
VRAM, Storage, flash, etc… so the DDR6 thing is irrelevant

[rotund mirage]

12 fucking tons of kitkats

wtf

[gaunt spade]

ngl if i had the chance i would too

[stone tartan]

Hell yeah

[rancid agate]

And that’s why the timeline is estimating 2028 because the machines for manufacturing memory chips are insanely huge and complicated and expensive, they should be done building out by end of 2027

[empty quartz]

Mrrp

[stone tartan]

It’s okay everyone I can also build my own fab I have a few billion dollars laying around

[rancid agate]

This micron memory chip thing is about more than just DDR5

[stone tartan]

I had an argument with a couple people that were telling me valve was going to make their own ram

[rancid agate]

Maybe design and brand a stick of ram using someone else’s memory chips

[stone tartan]

They bet me a bunch of like steam inventory items lol

[rancid agate]

It’s all pretty interesting. It’s over my head / not smart enough to explain it but 24GB / 48GB sticks had an underlying performance advantage because of the micro-infrastructure used to achieve memory chips stacked in multiples of 6GB instead of 4GB

That’s why if you try to find a 2x24GB on PCpartpicker there’s literallly not a single set in stock in the U.S…. Higher efficacy for AI training

[gaunt spade]

https://giphy.com/gifs/crow-thumbnail-real-science-RGDn0H74zXsaybq668

[empty quartz]

“Ai”*

its glorified autocorrect

[gaunt spade]

||AI||

[rigid fjord]

ddr6 going to be more interesting from an architecture standpoint

[gaunt spade]

12000mhz cl 70

[obsidian cosmos]

do i really need to download all the drivers for the motherboard

[south arrow]

Watcha talking about willis?

[rancid agate]

No.
Chipset, I/O, BIOS, wireless/bluetooth, sometimes power management

[south arrow]

Must be new build

[obsidian cosmos]

it is

[south arrow]

I always open windows upon first boot and let it download everything completely, what gpu ya got?

[obsidian cosmos]

5070

[rancid agate]

I purposely don’t connect windows to the Internet until after manually installing the OEM drivers for the core stuff

[south arrow]

Then install the Nvidia app and let it auto express update your gpu driver (screen may flash black once or twice until it shows done)