tech-chat-1

[ebon marlin]

1C

[gaunt spade]

yea no problem with that

[latent tundra]

I have returned

[gaunt spade]

how

[prime oriole]

Yeah what about it

[latent tundra]

does thiccpads support SATA hotswap?

lets just say I'm in the middle of trying to surface test a drive and Victoria drive tool just wont let me pick that one drive bcs it will always froze the app

[ebon marlin]

liquid cooling

[latent tundra]

so I was like okay lets just swap the HDD in the laptop to this one drive I'm trying to test

[ebon marlin]

with spit

[gaunt spade]

hawk tuah

[ebon marlin]

hawk tuah indeed brother

[gaunt spade]

i wont have fg now 😭😭😭😭😭

damn you 3080

[ebon marlin]

Ultimate DS emulation device

[gaunt spade]

wish i had a foldable phone

[tidal geyser]

this is why i went intel

constant improvements

[gaunt spade]

why do reflections look better on high than epic

[flat cliff]

My ADHD been especially active and bouncing me between projects faster then (insert funny analogy I am blanking on here) the past week or two and I just needa start knocking down dominos instead of putting more potential projects.

The so the first project I was looking at was Minecraft server. I have a not being currently used true nas server I setup a while ago for backing up my dads macbook. Anyone that can help me finish setting it up for a sever for use with me and my friends?

[tidal geyser]

now look at this

[gaunt spade]

.

[tidal geyser]

thats the pic for arc Dgpus

[rigid fjord]

it'll want to do something til suddenly.... squirrel

[carmine yew]

probably

[flat cliff]

What?

[strange atlas]

Anybody knows what kinda leg layout i should get done for triangle desk

Im gonna get triangle desk so my desk can go farther without limiting door

[carmine yew]

you mean a corner desk

[strange atlas]

No no actual triangle desk eith 3 legs

My desk is behind door do gotta be triangle so door can open somewhat

[carmine yew]

triangle shaped desks are hella poor space usage generally

[strange atlas]

Just want to put monitor there

Im sick of vertical monitor

[flat cliff]

Oh now I get it. Kinda yeah something like that with my brain lol sadly but instead of tacking yet another project on my to due list. (Learn some code/AI, to draw, to learn blender, finally finish setting up the NAS and Minecraft server, fix some of my 3D printers, learn to solder and fix my modded iPod classic...) It goes on and on but since I have a friend also bugging me about the server I'm choosing that first. With my luck and track record I'm gonna maybe complete this project, add 1-5 more to my to due list before completing one more so yeah...but I wanna at least try and get some done so where I start with this one?

[carmine yew]

draw what you're planning to do in paint. But if it's actually a triangle, it's probably a terrible use of space

[agile stag]

some of them care uh i havent researched the throttle temps because i dropped apple entirely a couple years ago but when people hear that their laptop will happily hit 110c if they try and use it uh they get lightly concerned but also its just a bit evil

[sleek fulcrum]

Does msi produce their own screen panels?

[carmine yew]

almost nobody does

[sleek fulcrum]

Hmm

[strange atlas]

On the phone in road i hope this explains enough @carmine yew

[sleek fulcrum]

MSI produces its own screens for its monitors and laptops

Weird okay so they do

[carmine yew]

quick google tells me they use other peoples panels

[sleek fulcrum]

Dell and asus outsource their screens to various companies like LG, Samsung,

Tk I just did the same it says they don't

[rigid fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/reee-squirrel-spinning-gif-14549523

[carmine yew]

https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/914b4666

Panel manuf: Samsung

[sleek fulcrum]

Mind you msi uses other suppliers for components it says

[strange atlas]

@carmine yew Did you see it by any chance

[carmine yew]

that's not a triangle desk, that's an angled/triangular extension for a desk

[strange atlas]

Yes but it will be seperate desk thats why i was wondering how legs should be placed on the triangle desk

[sleek fulcrum]

@carmine yew Are you buying that?

[carmine yew]

i'm not shipping for monitors currently

[carmine yew]

at each corner, obviously

[strange atlas]

I was thinking if i should also put one in middle cause of not getting broken or something

[carmine yew]

why

[strange atlas]

All of my desks brakes in middle

[carmine yew]

either your desks are shitty, or you're doing something weird to them

or both

[strange atlas]

Both probably

[carmine yew]

if you break another desk? Look around for surplus office furniture liquidators

you can get some steals from shops like that sometimes

[sleek fulcrum]

How does one break desks in middle

[carmine yew]

shitty desks can do that

[strange atlas]

One smalk smack does it

[carmine yew]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-you-judge-judge-judy-not-believing-gif-17775318

[sleek fulcrum]

Must be Temu furniture

[strange atlas]

Maybe bit more then small smack

Mid game things happens 🤮

[carmine yew]

1. buy better furniture
2. get your fuckin' impulses under some control
3. try talking to a therapist

[sleek fulcrum]

Problem is between the chair and desk

[sleek fulcrum]

What about that

[carmine yew]

most expensive 3DS evar

[rigid fjord]

ones that use carboard infill

[terse pewter]

4DS*

[ebon marlin]

this is cheaper than a new 3ds xl

[fringe prairie]

are they still overpriced on ebay?

[sleek fulcrum]

Get an odin 3 or rp6

[fringe prairie]

240 bones for one good god

[ebon marlin]

girlfriend received her ayn thor yesterday

can't wait to meet her to try it out

we are seeing next week again

[south arrow]

No rgrts

[sleek fulcrum]

Supposed to be good

[ebon marlin]

I have a new 3ds xl with an usb-c port

[south arrow]

Flipped the smaller one and got the blue one

[ebon marlin]

but it's disassembled

[fringe prairie]

i have the og 3ds in blue

the bottom screen doesn’t work though

[ebon marlin]

i own a shitton of gaming consoles

[fringe prairie]

was thinking of replacing the screen for like $15

[ebon marlin]

5x PSP, PSVita OLED, DSi, DSi XL, New 3DS XL, Legion Go and a Steam deck

[south arrow]

Its hard to take apart and not damage the ribbons but if you have the patience actually plugging in a new screen is fairly easy if you can get the adhesive lined up

[ebon marlin]

i gave up on re-assembling my new 3ds xl because of the ribbon cable's going through the hinge

[south arrow]

Thats the hardest part, totes understandable

[fringe prairie]

another thing i wanted to do was replace the sticks and do a shell swapon my switch lite

[ebon marlin]

it's been sitting disassmebled for years in my closet for like 3 years

I accidently broke the 3D effect ribbon cable when I tried to re-assemble it back together lol

[pulsar root]

If suddenly, one day, macbooks had the same support for games as Windows, would gamers switch? what would we see? Since the main thing holding back macOS is just support.

[gleaming rose]

probably, though windows laptops and x86 are rapidly progressing

I'd say other than silicon windows laptops in the higher end have surpassed apple

[cold skiff]

Man I just had a crazy thought about DLSS5. Imagine the Leisure Suit Larry games

[south arrow]

This is the wayyy

[ebon marlin]

yummy couple original DS's on the left

[south arrow]

Tbh that was my first thought on dlss5 is any inappropriate game just got alot more rated x

[ebon marlin]

I have an original DS at work with it's original box

both in good condition aswell

[south arrow]

War shipped suckaaa feeesh

[cold skiff]

Apparently I can’t say lady milk makers. Imagine Lara too

[carmine yew]

I've got a pair of PSPs. (But the screens are frequently fuzzy, they're old)
Pair of 3DS XLs, modded, etc.
GBA, GBA SP (Revised), and other stuff

[south arrow]

To many titles to complete lately but slowly getting there, its fun having a bunch of consoles but makes landing on a game sometimes a bit of a task

I have every original switch Zelda game but have played them 0 times

[ebon marlin]

Lenovo should've just included a controller holder like this with the legion go

[south arrow]

Also been heavily debating a handheld pc

[ebon marlin]

Way more comfortable to play like this rather than having to sit like a shrimp holding a big ass console

[ebon marlin]

Legion Go is peak handheld pc

I've used the Steam Deck, Rog Ally and Legion Go is def my most favorite

[abstract wigeon]

i have steam deck

[kindred halo]

Holy shit guess what

[abstract wigeon]

is good

[kindred halo]

My job is back on!!!! I can earn money again!!!

[ebon marlin]

I also have a steam Deck it's good but too weak and too small screen imp

Imo*

[abstract wigeon]

i think the 'too weak' aspect completely depends on the user, it runs the games i want it to run very well, i can see others needing more power though

i got steam deck because track pads are great and steamos is great, wouldnt sacrifive either for more performance

[fringe prairie]

i mean it’s really only the trackpads that the steam deck has

you can run steamos on other handhelds

[ebon marlin]

My steam deck couldn't even play ps3 games without being at max tdp for 40fps (Yakuza games)

[abstract wigeon]

runs bloodborne at 40

ps4

runs BoTW at near 60

for me, is good
for others, not enough

[fringe prairie]

or just some other linux distro like cachy handheld, bazzite, etc

[kindred halo]

It's a per-game thing really

[ebon marlin]

I'm using Bazzite since it's fedora and has steam gaming mode integrated to it

[kindred halo]

It's a nifty little machine capable of decent gaming capability, you have to remember that this is a tiny computer not much larger than a phone

[abstract wigeon]

doesnt legion GO ship with/have official steamOS support now?

[fringe prairie]

go s ships with it i believe

[kindred halo]

Oh that's interesting

[ebon marlin]

Bazzite has lots of QOL stuff over SteamOS

[fringe prairie]

go 2 probably does as well

[abstract wigeon]

gone

[versed ferry]

on my original legion go i just prefer windows

better game compatibility

[abstract wigeon]

holy moly expense

[abstract wigeon]

i havnt found a game that i cant play

[fringe prairie]

lelnovo had thr legion go for $437 a couple weeks ago

[ebon marlin]

I don't care about multiplayer games on my Legion Go so I've got Linux on it

Windows isn't really ready for handhelds yet either

[versed ferry]

I just bought the base storage one and upgraded it myself. However SSDs are more expensive right now so idk if that's the most economical way to do it at the moment. What I can say is that I love my original Legion Go.

[kindred halo]

I can get the Go S with 16GB/512GB for like $720

Also, the CPU on it seems quite okay
4c8t Ryzen 6000 (Zen 3+)

[versed ferry]

I disagree, I've had no issues with it in that regard. Windows has been on mobile devices for decades

[abstract wigeon]

i got the 1tb OLED steam deck for £450 so i cant complain

[ebon marlin]

Detachable controllers are very important to me since I like setting this thing on a table to play

[kindred halo]

The iGPU is RDNA 2 with 12 CU, though idk anything more

[kindred halo]

That 1TB is now half the price LOL

[versed ferry]

Not to mention using one as a mouse is nice. I rarely use it since I play in handheld most of the time, but it's a nice feature.

[ebon marlin]

It has yes but not on these kinda systems

[abstract wigeon]

huh

[fringe prairie]

rdna2 for $720 ehhhhhhhh

[ebon marlin]

Windows only now recently started optimizing their OS to be more usable on handhelds

[fringe prairie]

especially when you can get the og legion go for a similar price

[versed ferry]

The difference between a handheld gaming PC and a gaming laptop is small. It's literally just a laptop in a different form factor.

[ebon marlin]

But Windows's bloat is what's ruining the pc handhelds it ruins the performance and battery

[abstract wigeon]

i stuggle to like windows enough on a desktop, cant imagine handhelds are better

[ebon marlin]

I got my used Legion Go for 380€ with an upgraded 1tb nvme and 80wh battery mod

In USD that's 437

[versed ferry]

That I can understand, at least. But Windows is fine for handhelds. Not saying I'll never use SteamOS, but I don't mind Windows on a handheld and it also has its own advantages.

[versed ferry]

That's a weird handheld

[ebon marlin]

Cons outweigh the pros though unfortunately

[versed ferry]

Depends on what you're doing and what you favor.

[ebon marlin]

it's a handheld

It's already weak so I'd like good battery life and better performance

for example

Legion Go S is a good device to compare with as it has both a Windows and a SteamOS version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJXp3UYj50Q

[bitter crater]

what is the official link for ddu? (the guru3d link isnt working)

[hallow jasper]

https://www.wagnardsoft.com/display-driver-uninstaller-ddu

[kindred halo]

No I mean
That 1TB SSD is half the entire deck's price

[kindred halo]

Oh wtf the OG Legion has an 8c Zen 4 chip???

[ebon marlin]

Yeah

[kindred halo]

With 780m???

[ebon marlin]

Yeah

It's basically running a 7840U but with AI stuff disabled

NPU and such

That's basically what the Z1 Extreme is

[rigid fjord]

the amd z1e = 7840u modified tbh

[ebon marlin]

I owned a laptop with a 7840U and it performed basically the same as my Rog Ally since it's running the same chip

[kindred halo]

15W (Alleged) TDP though
Would putting it in a docking station or such let it use more

[ebon marlin]

Huh

Legion Go is max 30w

[kindred halo]

Oh huh
I was going off TPU's numbers

Okay 30W is much more manageable

How much can you get it to use whilst charging

[rigid fjord]

yeah but that's not just about the cpu inside it tbh

[kindred halo]

That's awesome

Legit a mini handheld Linux laptop

[ebon marlin]

It's locked to max 30w

I just run my stuff at 15w-18w though

I rarely go past 18w

[kindred halo]

That screen looks big, even for 8.8in

[rigid fjord]

z1e uses less power than a 7840u afaik, for it to run higher wattage it would have to be a 7840h/hs instead

[ebon marlin]

Yuh it's 16:10 another reason why I like it sm

Wrong reply

[kindred halo]

Why's 16:10 good or such

[ebon marlin]

Ay caramba mi gente

More screen

[hallow jasper]

additional vertical real estate

[kindred halo]

As in PL? Or it doesn't need to pull more

[kindred halo]

Oh
Like the ThinkPad 1200p screens?

Since those get an extra 120p vertical

[hallow jasper]

If they are 16:10, yeah

[ebon marlin]

PL?

[kindred halo]

What I am getting from all this is that the Legion Go is literally like a handheld Linux laptop with a 49.2Wh battery

[rigid fjord]

power limit

[hallow jasper]

2560x1440 is popular today but back about 15 years ago I got a 2560x1600 display. Little taller.

[ebon marlin]

I recommend getting a 80wh battery for an extra 30 bucks it's a game changer

[kindred halo]

PL-12 ARH Missile Power Limit

[kindred halo]

Welllll it's already $760

[ebon marlin]

Nah i just like to conserve battery and 15w-18w is enough for medium or high 60-75fps gaming

[kindred halo]

Oh fair

[rigid fjord]

7840u

amd z1e

[kindred halo]

-Still checking, but the cheapest I've seen is the Logitech G Cloud for $420

[ebon marlin]

That's very weak

[rigid fjord]

7840h and 7840hs

[ebon marlin]

It's meant for cloud gaming

[kindred halo]

Oh
Explains the cloud name

[ebon marlin]

It's literally running a Snapdragon 720G which is meant for very cheap budget phones 6 years ago

[kindred halo]

Oh wow the Switch Lite is $180

[kindred halo]

So it's just a glorified shit phone 💔

[ebon marlin]

Like the Samsung A52

[kindred halo]

-NOT considering it, just saying

[kindred halo]

What about the Helios G99 chip

It's in my current phone, A16

[ebon marlin]

Very poop

But for basic usage it's fine

[kindred halo]

Fair

Snapdragon 3 Gen 6?

[ebon marlin]

You mean 6 gen 3?

[kindred halo]

Wait no I think I am mixing them up

[kindred halo]

Yeah SD 6 G3

[kindred halo]

-Switch 2 256GB is $460, surprisingly cheap

[ebon marlin]

Yeah but it's games will be 100$ for each one lol

[ebon marlin]

If your just gaming the difference can be big

[sharp ivy]

Wait

I think my Protogen head is more powerful than one of my computers

oh yeah defs

[ebon marlin]

Gay

[abstract wigeon]

hole in back for nvme access pretty cool thanks evga

[kindred halo]

Oh very interesting
I was recommending it to my brother, who's Tecno Pova 2 just died - Again

[abstract wigeon]

psu still sparks wheever i turn it off but oh well

[kindred halo]

WHAT
Tell me more NOW

[sharp ivy]

Well my proto is powered by an ATMEGA328

and I have a NEC 8950 computer

and I think my proto clocks faster

yeah it is lol

[ebon marlin]

I own a few phones that have the best Antutu scores like 8 Elite, 9400E, 8 Gen 3 and 8 Gen 2 and many more but my main phone the Pixel Fold is running a Tensor G2 chip which is significantly weaker if you compare the scores

[kindred halo]

ATMEGA328?

[sharp ivy]

Proto is 16mhz, the PC tops out at 8mhz

[kindred halo]

That's silly
I love it

[sharp ivy]

Yeah on the Arduino Uno R3

[sharp ivy]

:3

[flat cliff]

?

[kindred halo]

Give the proot a higher end raspberry / arduino :3

[sharp ivy]

I should lol but I just need it working for now

[kindred halo]

Can't help, but...
I feel you man, I am planning random projects </3

[kindred halo]

Tensor G2?
Just make it use the Tensor cores /s

[sharp ivy]

a lot of people's protogens use the Teensy 4.0 which is much faster

[ebon marlin]

Lowkey I didn't know how bad the Tensor G2 chip is until now when it can't even emulate 3DS games

[flat cliff]

Also I have 32gb ram and wanna go 64gb because I hit 30gb when using blender and the likes. Sadly am on DDR5 what's the best way to get that? Can you mix sodim and regular ram in one system? I saw those adapter things online and laptop ram cheaper on the used market.

[sharp ivy]

the teensy is 600mhz

[kindred halo]

Teensy.. That's a company I am first hearing of

[ebon marlin]

tried running mario kart 7 which is a fairly simple game but the g2 cannot handle it at all it was a whole ass slideshow

[kindred halo]

Oh that's abhorrent
Can't emulate games for a 2007 handheld?

Oh btw
Cheapest usable handheld found, steamdeck OLED 16/512GB, $625

[kindred halo]

Disappointing

[ebon marlin]

LCD steam deck models are usually half the price of the OLED

[kindred halo]

None available except this one lol

[ebon marlin]

I got my Steam Deck with a 1tb SN770M nvme for 250€ basically brand new with battery health still at 100%

[flat cliff]

Every 2 weeks I plan a new one its bad. The only one I've like ever stuck with is my very expensive PC hobby that AI is making look so underpowered and its 32gb ram and a 9070xt and a 7700x but eh I wanna run the good stuff and 3D printing mostly because playing the long game of wait for seeing results not work but I can tinker settings and a half hour later...the benchy prints better look what I'm doing...that quick skill reward is so nice for me. And it do most the work for me in actually making object anyways.

[ebon marlin]

Which is basically 280usd

[kindred halo]

Oh wait there's an MSI Claw

$549, U5 135H, 16/512GB

[kindred halo]

Oh that's right there's the used market

[ebon marlin]

Msi claw is really good but the Ultra 100 series is kinda lacking

[kindred halo]

How so?

[cosmic stratus]

Not sure if this is niche but I like to center the mouse curser when intel xtu is loading

[kindred halo]

14c/18t, 96EU ARC GPU

[ebon marlin]

Performance and battery issues

[kindred halo]

Oh, battery issues
Fair

[ebon marlin]

Everything was fixed with the 200 series chips

200 series has insanely good performance and battery life

[kindred halo]

Wait
Can the Claw even run Linux properly

I am pretty much just considering these handhelds for running normal Linux on them

[kindred halo]

Interesting

Okey dokey
Stealing a 255H from a laptop and soldering it to the Claw

[ebon marlin]

or just use the laptop

https://tenor.com/view/ive-gone-completely-sane-sane-cat-meme-gif-23216190

[carmine yew]

holy shit, this is nuts:

[ebon marlin]

i got that 1tb sn770m + steam deck for 280usd

https://tenor.com/view/chinese-cat-mustache-cat-cat-with-mustache-wise-cat-gif-14061847956880895668

[kindred halo]

Less fun

Plus I can't fit that in my pocket

[worn willow]

mini sdd

[ebon marlin]

you can't fit an msi claw either in ur pocket

[kindred halo]

I have big pockets :3c

[kindred halo]

What's wrong?

[ebon marlin]

prolly the prices

[carmine yew]

nearly 200 bucks for 1TB is crazy

[frigid blade]

What really?

I thought we were at $100/tb

[azure topaz]

small tax

[frigid blade]

Is that just for the short ones?

Dang lol

[carmine yew]

this was last year:

[fringe prairie]

it’s like $130-140 per tb

[ebon marlin]

2230 ssd's are in low suppyl due to not big demand

[frigid blade]

Is that what they use in handhelds and whatnot?

[ebon marlin]

i mean there is decent size demand but not as much as 2280 size ssd's

[ebon marlin]

yeah except legion go which uses 2242

[kindred halo]

I mean, those kinda are the prices

[carmine yew]

Last year: 143 bucks for a 2TB

and Newegg Business isn't known as a "bargain" seller

[ebon marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/846253468763029504/1248797642654482522/SHTU_UP_SPRINGS.gif

[kindred halo]

How last year
August and closer? Or?

[carmine yew]

july

[kindred halo]

Welllll
2230/42 drives are still NVMes, so they're getting hit aswell ofc

@ebon marlin Found an even cheaper deck!!!!
... By $5

Still OLED
LCD decks are nowhere to be seen

[carmine yew]

the 2TB 2230 is still "only" 273 USD on NB right now.

Way cheaper than 1TB options

https://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9B-20-985-041

[kindred halo]

2TB for 273.. I honestly don't know if that's good or not

[rigid fjord]

what about an sn740 from aliexpress, that's available in both 2230 and 2280

[carmine yew]

vs 175-250 for 1TB?

[kindred halo]

Oh huh
1TB drives are going for 250 now?

I assume it's PCIe 5.0 drives?

[carmine yew]

no, and you LITERALLY REPLIED TO THIS
#tech-chat-1 message

[tulip sparrow]

https://www.destructoid.com/krafton-ordered-to-reinstate-fired-subnautica-2-ceo-judge-accuses-publisher-chatgpt/

[carmine yew]

I don't know if any 2230 Gen 5 drives are even produced.

[kindred halo]

I did NOT see that Sn770m oh wow

What the hell is WD thinking

Yeah 273 for a 2TB drive seems pretty good seeing that the other ones are 175 for 1TB

[carmine yew]

WD isn't the only one

that bottom PNY is the cheapest 2TB I've seen today

[kindred halo]

Samsung QLC 1TB SSD for $260

[kindred halo]

500GB $196 💔

[gaunt spade]

@ebon marlin should i buy a watercooled 2080 ti and make a super budget full loop

[ebon marlin]

no

[gaunt spade]

😔

[carmine yew]

That's a sick lookin' card

[ebon marlin]

your super budget full loop will cost more than the gpu

[gaunt spade]

max pc budget hmmm

500-600$ idk

[lapis talon]

Apparently the 5060's raw performance is 'great' but the 9060xt is only better because it's more futureproof

Can only find people like this on Facebook in this day and age

[gaunt spade]

tiktok or youtube

or kinda any techtokers comments

[lapis talon]

Facebook lol

[gaunt spade]

facebook is pretty stupid too

ive seen stupid people

[lapis talon]

Worse than both YouTube and tiktok combined

[left trellis]

Is a 40 USD 1TB SN570 good value

[lapis talon]

Used?

[left trellis]

Mhm

[lapis talon]

What's the health

[gaunt spade]

equally bad

[left trellis]

I can ask, whats a good enough %

90?
95?

[lapis talon]

I don't use YouTube shorts nor tiktok so I wouldn't know 💀

[lapis talon]

The higher the better

[left trellis]

Alr

[gaunt spade]

check health and how much days are left

[rigid fjord]

they're only half wrong there tbh

[kindred halo]

Sick card

[hallow jasper]

"The Future"

[ebon marlin]

even the original doom looks better than that

[tulip sparrow]

https://www.androidauthority.com/stadia-usb-adapter-3650163/ something to do with those spare stadia controllers you have kicking around

[inner ridge]

technologia

[hallow jasper]

I have one of these in a drawer.

I did run their tool to convert it to a normal BT controller a while back

thats a neat project, I had no idea about Tandem mode

[carmine yew]

I've got two of those still

[carmine yew]

same, they're pretty comfy for a controller

[hallow jasper]

I don't like the buttons

the d-pad is clicky

[carmine yew]

Oh, it's def not the best controller by a mile, but holding it is fairly comfy

[hallow jasper]

so in theory it seems it'll work as a wired to BT bridge

[unique aspen]

is the charger a fire risk

[hallow jasper]

probably not, but you could also just wrap some electrical tape on there

[serene python]

well try it out

[exotic cape]

Yes, all electric devices are a fire risk.

[hallow jasper]

welcome to literally all oblivious apple charger users.

you're not going to cause a fire, just wrap it up

[brave brook]

apple using the worst type of plastic for cable ever. never seen this happen to anything else than apple cables, outside of ancient cables which disintegrated

[carmine yew]

ohhhhhhh

[carmine yew]

that's a job for sugru!

[hallow jasper]

holy shit

[brave brook]

i mean i think the only other product where cable plastic disintegrated like on apple cables is Sennheiser RS 160 power adapter cable (the side which has 5-12V or so)

[hallow jasper]

the guy that used thick heatshrink knows whats up

[brave brook]

poor Minisforum product managers having to type of justification articles for price increases https://minisforumpc.eu/blogs/blogartikels/minisforum-price-hikes-for-mini-pcs-2026-analysis

[tulip sparrow]

Looks like the Neo has one MAJOR flaw https://youtube.com/shorts/UtpTq9Nxm-c

[tall sandal]

Yea no shit

Has no fans, runs really hot obviously

[tulip sparrow]

Worse then that its not even touching the chassis so yeah there is no where for the heat to go

[carmine yew]

Do you not know sugru?

[tall sandal]

Even if it touches still too hot

[tulip sparrow]

Vast majority of phones are Passive cooled

[tall sandal]

Even when a thermal pad is placed, it helps a little on the clock speed but it’s sustained temps are so high

Despite such little watts.

[tulip sparrow]

Also the best cooling they had was cooling the entire logic board for a boost of 20%

[tall sandal]

For comparison my laptop is 90c while pulling 102w on the CPU. While the neo is like 97 while watts in the single digits.

I think at least, I saw a review from Jake

[carmine yew]

https://youtu.be/G-NVfe58htU?si=dCVGD6cx-5bYS7PF

[tulip sparrow]

99C is the temp it runs at and they were able to cool down to like 96C but they did gain 20% performance by cooling the entire logic board so doable

99C is still within the thermal limit of the SOC

[tulip sparrow]

Even tho it is annoying to see

[tall sandal]

Lmao this is funny to watch

The wattage is so so small, my laptop literally runs 23w at idle

And is having 90c at 102w

[hallow jasper]

i remember buying that once, don't remember what i did with it

[tulip sparrow]

Had an old Thinkpad T420 that would hit 95C+ doing light tasks back in the day even after repasting the i5-2520m onboard

[carmine yew]

the packets are tiny and easy to lose

[tall sandal]

RIP

I mean laptops spike up, my laptop just opening armoury crate cpu wattage spikes above 60w

[tulip sparrow]

Replaced the thing with a Sager(Clevo) back in the day

[tall sandal]

Also one thing guys

HP omen max by design seems to have thermal issues

It runs much more than other laptops with the same power.

[carmine yew]

@azure topaz

[tulip sparrow]

I don't expect the "Neo"s to run for years at the hightemps they are running

[tall sandal]

Yea same

Honestly do we really know what happens when a chip runs above 95 in heavy loads sustained for years.

[azure topaz]

man that’s bad

[tall sandal]

how come iPhone doesn’t overheat

[carmine yew]

it's SO terribad

[tall sandal]

or maybe it does and I have zero clue.

[carmine yew]

lower power budget

[azure topaz]

and it does lol

[tall sandal]

During gaming obviously it warms up, but I would never expect it to go above 95

[carmine yew]

it probably does

[tall sandal]

Yea prob

Prob got worse thermals than my ASUS TUF

[tulip sparrow]

Personally looking at a HP Victus with 4050, 16GB ram and at least a 512gbb ssd and maybe 13th/14th gen i5 for "Gaming" to replace my broken scrreen and keyboard and dead battery Sager laptop

[tall sandal]

which is insane watts man

[tulip sparrow]

The 4050 beats the old 1060 3GB in my Sager lol

Sub $800 for such a laptop ain't bad

I managed to get the $1300 Sager for roughly half off thanks to Amazon Gift cards that totaled roughly $600 and some

[hallow jasper]

were is this number coming from as some sort of threshold?

[tulip sparrow]

Throwing something like Pop OS onto the HP wouldn't be out of the cards for me LOL

[eternal cloak]

Yes

The silicon degrades at a rapid pace at very high temperatures, this has been studied for years

[tall sandal]

Linus may have said it

That it can degrade chips, when talking about 2017 MacBook or

[eternal cloak]

Not sure about specifically 95 degrees though

[tall sandal]

Laptops run hot, even good temps for a laptop are objectively high

[hallow jasper]

Ok so not even close to someone you take as knowledgeable on the subject.

[tall sandal]

Yea, I never said I knew

I just heard, I said we don’t know if it’s true in practice

[tulip sparrow]

Jay running that Intel without thermal paste for an extended amount of time during that challenge LOL

[tall sandal]

I gave 95 as an example

[rigid fjord]

for the silicon to truely degrade you'd have to hit something like 200c

[tall sandal]

That levels such as this are seen on the MacBook neo

[eternal cloak]

Yeah that's because power consumption isn't generally high enough for electromigration to occur

[tall sandal]

102w is high

[rigid fjord]

but any interconnects is more than likely to go before that

[tall sandal]

On gaming laptops, they run at high levels.

[rigid fjord]

lol, no

[magic marsh]

My gpu decides to reach 102c sometimes and it's ok

[eternal cloak]

Lower voltage makes it not matter, even if that was high

[hallow jasper]

This is the same sorta thing where AMD made chips designed to run at 95c and the old school people couldn't comprehend it. Years in we're still dealing with people who will say dumb shit like "well I never run my chips that hot because I want them to last longer"

[tall sandal]

Right I see

[tall sandal]

Yea those Ryzen 7000 chips

AMD said it can run at 95 safely 24/7 or whatever

[rigid fjord]

long time no see

[magic marsh]

Hello

[tulip sparrow]

Upping those 65watts to 95watts huh?

[rigid fjord]

the better part of 9000 series can also do this

only the x3d cpu's are the oines to have a lower temp

[tall sandal]

But I’m saying if a laptop runs close to 90c for a maybe an hour or 2 some people think it will degrade the CPU

I don’t think that’s true right?

[south arrow]

No one, not a soul:

[eternal cloak]

Yes, for the same reason people told their kids that sitting right in front of the TV damages your eyes

[tall sandal]

It would seem not, as it’s designed like this.

[rigid fjord]

not true, it won't degrade straight away because of that

[tall sandal]

Ofc yea

[rigid fjord]

tbf dude, there is some truth to this

[hallow jasper]

"What?"

[tulip sparrow]

IF that coopling is by design and is APple trying to force Neo people to replace it every 3-5 years even worse honestly

[south arrow]

I dare disturb his cleaning

[magic marsh]

For sake of argument the only people that could even potentially risk degrading a cpu by getting it too hot are gamers that will replace their cpu in 7 years anyways meanwhile cpu's have always lasted much longer than that

[tall sandal]

Can it cause board warping?

[hallow jasper]

why are we so concerned with Neo cooling, something that won't matter to 99% of its users

[magic marsh]

And if they do productivity the life cycle is even shorter

[tall sandal]

Warping of the logic board

From thermal cycles

[magic marsh]

Got a big ol chassis around it for that

[hallow jasper]

bunch of arm chair silicon engineers over here thinking they're smarter than people being paid for it at apple. they got this, its fine

[tulip sparrow]

I tend to repalce mine less often then that more like 10 years at least LOL

[tall sandal]

I mean yea I think Apple knows what they are doing

[magic marsh]

My cpu is 6 years old now and it feels fine tbh

[tall sandal]

It’s designed like this, I don’t think it’s a problem. Just for some of us seeing bad thermals is uncomfortable

[magic marsh]

And it was mid tier then

[tulip sparrow]

Went from an i5 3570k to a Ryzen 3700x and that wa smainly due to the increase in core counts NOT the single core performance which was still plenty on the i5 for me

[rigid fjord]

that's going to take a ton of cycles, and would need way higher heat to do so

[magic marsh]

I have a 360hz monitor now so I'll take the single core I can get next upgrade

[tulip sparrow]

I then went ahjead and replaced the 3700x with a 5800x3d since I plan on doing some more productivity such as 3d modeling for example

[tall sandal]

Yea constant thermal cycles, cooling and heating up

[magic marsh]

Needed a monitor with very very good colors and it also happened to be 360hz

[tall sandal]

But Linus may have said it, that’s why I’m going off it.

with the 2018 MacBook Pro

[rigid fjord]

do you remember what temps it takes for epoxy/fibreglass to fail?

[tall sandal]

He complained about the thermals being unacceptable, and 97c in an air conditioned office

[tulip sparrow]

Was hoping to be able to sue my Quest 3 as a way of doing said 3D modeling with it tied to the PC and having the Quest and cotnrollers act like inputs and display for Blender but apparently not

[magic marsh]

A million degrees

[hallow jasper]

I don't think I ever knew to begin with

[eternal cloak]

Ye, since a Macbook thermally throttling don't be too hot

[tall sandal]

Yea the main issue was it was thermal throttling in a severe degree

And loosing performance

[tulip sparrow]

Couple of reasons I picked up the Quest 3 Gaming was one productivity such as 3d modeling was another

[magic marsh]

I bought an oculus quest 2 and then meta killed them

[eternal cloak]

That heavily depends on the epoxy, some can go up to 65 degrees celcius, some can go well into the hundreds

Fibreglass starts to degrade/fail (the epoxy binder) at roughly 200 degrees

[tulip sparrow]

You know there is a MAJOR issue when cooling your entire Logic board grants your system 20% extra performance

[magic marsh]

I don't want another facebook device anymore

[rigid fjord]

ah, cheers dude

[tulip sparrow]

I use my "Facebook" account mainly for family communication honestly

[carmine yew]

Vice City dude is gettin' clowned

[rigid fjord]

to late it's in everything

[carmine yew]

it's HILARIOUS

[magic marsh]

I made it for the headset it's got default profile picture and everything

[tulip sparrow]

and yes I was on myspace before facebook was a thing LOL

[eternal cloak]

Wtf is Vice City dude lmao

[rigid fjord]

gta game

[carmine yew]

Dude who was playing Vice City
--> Vice City dude

[eternal cloak]

Yeah ik, he said "Vice city dude"

[tall sandal]

My CPU has 64MB of L3 cache, is this good?

It’s not 3D, but compared to Intel

[magic marsh]

Does not matter

[eternal cloak]

Something I missed on here? lol

[carmine yew]

that stat unto itself doesn't mean anything

[tall sandal]

Why not?

[magic marsh]

You can't upgrade it

[tall sandal]

Then why is there so much hype about X3D

[magic marsh]

The cpu just has it

[tulip sparrow]

Don't x3d cpus have 96gb of l3 cache?

[tall sandal]

3D-v cache

It’s more than Intel

[magic marsh]

Cause the cpu as a whole performs better because of the cache

[tall sandal]

AMD Ryzen 9 8940hx

[tulip sparrow]

a LARGE L3 Cache happens to helps games immensily

[eternal cloak]

GIGABYTES would be crazy, but that depends on the X3D

[tulip sparrow]

You know what I mean

[carmine yew]

Becuase AMD Needed 3D V-Cache to amp up gaming.
It doesn't do much of anything for non-gaming loads

[eternal cloak]

The 9800X3D has 96MB, the 9900X3D has 128MB, you get it

[magic marsh]

It's irrelevant to look up the amount of cache on your cpu cause it's not like you can tell how fast it is based on the amount

[tulip sparrow]

Mixing up Strix Halo and 3d

[tall sandal]

Yea

Intel is better for productivity

And it’s higher watts

[rigid fjord]

think only on one single epyc cpu we have this currently

[tall sandal]

It’s really fast

[brave brook]

96 gigabytes ? 😄

[tulip sparrow]

Strix Halo and its 96Gb of unified memory

[tall sandal]

I have 32k in cinebench r23, it’s a monster

[magic marsh]

Same as looking at cores and gigahertz across generations it quickly loses any meaning

[tall sandal]

Massive

[carmine yew]

Are you really trying to start another pointless bitch fest for no real reason?

[tall sandal]

no

Just I was trying to understand is this a good amount of cache

Cuz it seemed high

[magic marsh]

Does not matter

[tall sandal]

Alright, got it

[carmine yew]

and amount of cache on its own doesn't mean anything, implementation of it matters

[magic marsh]

If the cpu performs then that's how it is

[tall sandal]

So doesn’t mean much as you said

It preforms great

[eternal cloak]

Nowadays not necessarily

[carmine yew]

Arrow Lake can have more L2 cache than L3 cache

[tulip sparrow]

Its a Ryzen 8000 HX CPU so yeah not surprised it has a large amount of L3 cache for gaming chops

[eternal cloak]

The highest spec Intel SKU usually matches the highest spec AMD SKU evenly

[tall sandal]

Yea the only issue with 8940HX is too much watts at idle

It’s known to be low 20s.

but it is what it is

nothing we can do about it

[tulip sparrow]

Strix Halo says hello

[carmine yew]

NfTs ArE tHe FuTuRe

[latent gull]

Didn’t he have that nft zoo scam game

[tulip sparrow]

Pretty sure Intel still lacks things that can rival Strix Halo

[magic marsh]

I guess if you look at the right slice of time

[eternal cloak]

The fact it's worth anything beyond a single digit is insane lmao

[carmine yew]

I don't think that intel has any consumer 2K USD CPUs

[eternal cloak]

With how often the US government had to bail em out I doubt they can afford to have any SKUs like that lol

[tulip sparrow]

Pretty sure double didgts thanks to "CENTS" would be more pproiate instead off single digit dollars LOL

And if Intel doesn't have anything that can beat a sub $800 Nvidia 4050 based laptop I don't honestly want it LOL

[magic marsh]

Please intel

Release a new gpu and make the drivers good

[tulip sparrow]

and for $1300 +that the highend lakes are going for you are running upa gains't 5060/5070 tier systems

SO yeah until you find the new CPUs in sub $1k laptops they aren't really that good honestly

Their new igps maybe on par with 4050 but if they aren't priced like a 4050 then wahts the real point?

[magic marsh]

You can grab some really good cpu power in a laptop rn if you don't need a gpu

The demand is so low that you can just pick up a zen 4 laptop for way cheaper than I'd thought

[tulip sparrow]

Also their lack of 6P cores on their mobile cpus is annoying as well

they all max out at 4p cores

[junior merlin]

Oh we're talking laptops? Perfect. I'm also looking for one.

[tulip sparrow]

Plenty of Lenovos for sale at Best Buy

all metal for Sub $800 and they are rocking at least 8000 series cpus if not newer

Best Buy tends to have Lenovo on sale constantly LOL

[junior merlin]

I just want a laptop, probably used, that can handle gaming better than a 7700 and a 1060.

[tulip sparrow]

Check Amazon for a HP Victus

4050 will spank the 1060 honestly

[magic marsh]

Hopefully

[tulip sparrow]

Thinking of picking one up to repalce my old Sager (Clevo) with i7 7700hq and 1060 3GB onboard

[junior merlin]

I have an MSI Stealth with those specs.

[tulip sparrow]

The Sager has a broken screen broken Keyboard and dead battery so it just sits int eh corner unused while I use a Lenovo Yoga 2in1 with AMD 88040HS onboard running Linux

But yeah depending on budget you have options I would think

[junior merlin]

I'm thinking used. Get something ~500 that I can use for lighter gaming, maybe the occasional stream on the go.

[tulip sparrow]

Sorry Bethesda but until you pull a Final Fantassy 14/NO Mans Sky level upgrade on Starfield then anything you put out is just far to little tp bring people back to the game

[junior merlin]

I'm considering maybe just getting an eBay 3050 laptop and running with that.

[tulip sparrow]

4050 used MIGHT be around the $500 one would think

[latent pasture]

massive L from digital foundry lol

"we shouldve waited until the community formed the opinion before posting our coverage"

why even investigate tech if ur just gonna parrot what ppl already think abt it

[abstract wigeon]

'we dont have any real opinions we just want to do what makes you guys happy'

when i read tech news its to get other peoples perspectives on things, not to echo my own

[carmine yew]

I wonder how terriffyingly huge the bill LTT's gonna have for getting rid of the Asbestos and Lead in the Tech House

[abstract wigeon]

my workplace is full of asbestos its not that bad they might as well keep it

[carmine yew]

they're doing demo, so they may be required to fix it

[balmy inlet]

Best 3€ for a setup

[junior merlin]

EXPENSIVE

[carmine yew]

oh, absolutely

[jovial swan]

asus webstore website is so fucking slow holy shit

[tidal geyser]

wat

rip

[carmine yew]

the tech house has both asbestos and lead in it

and not just a little

[tidal geyser]

how much did ltt pay

[gilded imp]

thats basically all property built before 1990

[distant frigate]

So glad there’s no more asbestos in this home

[carmine yew]

IDR, but they bought a house so.... quite a bit.
They haven't said what the remediation cost is

[wispy thunder]

did they say that in a recent vid?

[tidal geyser]

im gonna boot back into linux, im on LTSC and still getting a decent amount of issues

[gilded imp]

they use to put asbestos in EVERYTHING

[carmine yew]

today's

[gilded imp]

concrete, wire insulation, vinyl

[tidal geyser]

discord be bugging, firefox be bugging, bluetooth be bugging FFS

[wispy thunder]

o I'll watch it

[distant frigate]

This home used to have popcorn ceilings but we got rid of it

[tidal geyser]

but windows feels smoother and has better battery life

[distant frigate]

There was also asbestos probably in the walls but that’s gone now

Now there’s fiberglass insulation

[wispy thunder]

oh frick I realized my house might have asbestos in the popcorn ceiling

[gilded imp]

when was it built

[wispy thunder]

1986 I believe? around there. at least One year before backwater valves became standard in homes

[distant frigate]

I have to say I’m kinda concerned with the foundation of this home

[gilded imp]

do you have any vinyl floor tiles or anything

[wispy thunder]

in 1 of the washrooms yeah

[gilded imp]

hmm

[tidal geyser]

my space was renovated in 2013 :3

[ivory mountain]

damn it was made when sim was about 40 years old

[gilded imp]

I would be concenred about that aswell then

[distant frigate]

Again the foundation is 126 years old. There is some cracks in it

[wispy thunder]

but that washroom was part of a renovation that happened in 2004

[gilded imp]

oh, good

[distant frigate]

But its overall still good

[wispy thunder]

so I don't think the tile is gonna be an issue

it's just the ceiling I'm worried about

[gilded imp]

yeah, assuming it wasnt just kept original

it really is impressive the amount of products they put asbestos in

[wispy thunder]

all the flooring and carpeting has been redone by the time I moved in

[distant frigate]

I also noticed there’s holes in the foundation on the outside where mice can get in

[wispy thunder]

nah there's no space, literally half the washroom including a shower was added in that renovation lmao

washroom would've been almost entirely redone

[gilded imp]

my favorite asbestos product is asbestos cigarette filters

[wispy thunder]

lmfao

that's like imagine one day we realize that polyester was bad for you.... oh wait...

[wispy thunder]

wait you weren't joking

[gilded imp]

micronite is asbestos

[wispy thunder]

wth LMAOOOO

[gilded imp]

yeah lol

these were marketed as healthy because of the asbestos filter

[distant frigate]

Spray foam insulation seems nice ngl

But it is the most expensive option

[gilded imp]

pain in the ass to work with too

running cables after the fact is super annoying with spray foam

[hexed sage]

Thank you google

I press turn off and it doesn't turn off 😭

[versed ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/asbestos-simpsons-more-asbestos-bart-simpson-gif-3698088563737980219

A little asbestos goes a long way. Really separates the men from the little girls.

[mossy oak]

You never hade a choice, Google just likes to imagine you do have one

[hexed sage]

True

[wispy thunder]

if it's off, it's off. The choice on whether you want to use gemini or assistant has nothing to do with if its off

[hexed sage]

Have you played LGPE?

[mossy oak]

The AI icl is somewhat useful but is so shit when it is

[jovial swan]

now i really wanna sell my desktop and buy the asus tuf a14. but i dunno if i wanna buy it with the ryzen AI MAX+ 392 or with the ryzen ai 7 350 and rtx 5060

[wispy thunder]

it's like a dimmer + switch, if a switch is off, it doesn't matter whether your dimmer is set to high or low

[hexed sage]

It still pops up even tho I pressed turn off

[wispy thunder]

ok nvm then that's stupid LOL

[mossy oak]

Is snail still here

[wispy thunder]

this is what u get for getting a samsung

[hexed sage]

I hate ai assistants on my phone so much

[mossy oak]

I can’t tag him

[hexed sage]

It's not a Samsung

[wispy thunder]

nah gemini has been pretty ayt on my pixel lately

[mossy oak]

That’s why I’d rather die than get a Google phone

[distant frigate]

Yeah it would be really good at trapping heat in the winter

[gilded imp]

this?

[distant frigate]

Save us money on heating

[hexed sage]

It's not a Google phone 😭

[mossy oak]

I’m not having an AI assistant tell me how my yo tube video is

[wispy thunder]

then why do you have comic sans system font?

[gilded imp]

google has no idea waht LGPE is lol

[mossy oak]

Nah Google phones do the same shit I hate it

[hexed sage]

Let's go Pikachu and eevee

[gilded imp]

no

[wispy thunder]

Google phones are the only ones that support grapheneOS which is exactly what you're looking for actually, methinks.

[hexed sage]

Google pays off every android phone maker to add the stupid bloat

[sleek ibex]

I would be perfectly fine with an old fashioned flip phone that does the bare minimum

[wispy thunder]

fym pays off they own android lmfao

[hexed sage]

Graphene is peak I wish I had a Google pixel

[wispy thunder]

only custom aosp based roms do not come with gapps

this btw is why the American gov't wanted to force google to spin off android from the rest of the company

[hexed sage]

I thought android was a platform

[wispy thunder]

Android Open Source Project is owned and maintained by Google

[mossy oak]

I mean I might be hating just because I hate this but everything has to be AI push

But I’d give it 2-3 years before the hype dies down

[hexed sage]

Mid

[wispy thunder]

wdym mid

if you use android, go thank Google.

[hexed sage]

The ai bubble is gonna end with no funding or Jarvis

And will lead to Ultron

[wispy thunder]

The only brand that used Google AOSP and switched to their own Kernel is Huawei

[mossy oak]

It’s literally on the back of investors waking up to the reality of pouring billions into a project that clearly isn’t giving profit isn’t really a good idea

[hexed sage]

Eh

[mossy oak]

and their slowly waking up

ram will finally be cheap again 🙏

[hexed sage]

OpenAI was supposed to be gone by 2027 until Israel happened

[mossy oak]

OpenAI is literally only a thing because nvidia keeps bailing them out

they were due to shut down November until they reinvested a nice 40B

[hexed sage]

Company slop

[mossy oak]

yup yup

[wispy thunder]

well, OpenAI was also Nvidia's only customer for their AI focused thing

[mossy oak]

Not really true
Every company ever buys chips from them

[wispy thunder]

DGX1

[obtuse yew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1130162564614066206/1257825852339519508/SirFletcher.gif

[mossy oak]

OpenAI is just a huge huge foundation for AI and everyone and their mother uses them

But now all the big companies are catching up, and have their own ai models

So now it’s becoming entirely useless

[wispy thunder]

OpenAI was the first and for a while, the only customer for Nvidia's DGX 1

[mossy oak]

Fair point

[wispy thunder]

so it's almost a grandfathered in transaction here

[ebon marlin]

holy shit I knew the redmagic 9 pro has bad cameras but damn i didn't know they're this garbage

[mossy oak]

eventually investors will be pissy Becuase of the fact their wasting their time when Google has Gemini and we have like 5 different AI models

[wispy thunder]

in a way, Nvidia has to thank openai for using their chips and popularizing LLMs

[ebon marlin]

even my google pixel 1st gen takes better pictures than this

[wispy thunder]

Brother, Pixels were so far ahead of the game for so long

the RM 9 Pro is... wait it's 2024

eh typical

[ebon marlin]

pixel is 2016

[agile topaz]

Redmagic 8 years behind and still mid for 8 years ago

[ebon marlin]

the noise in the background lmao

in a bright enviroment

[hexed sage]

10 trillion to Israel

[mossy oak]

I mean I only have apple because of my providers deal
Deadass might get a Samsung next year for the first time

[ebon marlin]

don't bother

samsung is genuinely one of the worst android brands

get a vivo, oppo, oneplus or something else

[hexed sage]

True

[wispy thunder]

nah they're alright

S26U privacy screen is pretty awesome

the base models are a big avoid though

[ebon marlin]

yeah mate i love that my screen is permanently dogshit quality

[wispy thunder]

it's not that bad

and it's more efficient because of the lack of polarizer

[ebon marlin]

the s26 ultra is more expensive than a 17 PM

such a pointless phone

[wispy thunder]

it's first gen tech

I don't mind it, look at the pricing rumours for the iPhone fold

[stray portal]

Yall i wanna use edge to take advantage of high resolution netflix and disney plus but idk if its worth using the slop browser

[hexed sage]

Truth nuke

[ebon marlin]

folds are always expensive

they start at 2k

also it's going to be the best foldable in the market

so it's understandable it's 2799 price tag i think it was

so far only Pixel has the best foldable design

pixel fold 2023

[stray portal]

And it also blows up

[ebon marlin]

huh

[stray portal]

Pixel folds have had a big design issue for a while

And on the latest model it caused the phone to explode

[carmine yew]

the browsers don't support 4K
use the app

Edge is now chrome, and doens't support 4K netflix / disney

[ebon marlin]

do you think the 2023 pixel fold is the latest model

[stray portal]

I forgot they had apps

[ebon marlin]

let's think for a little now

[stray portal]

Those apps are probably web stuff anyway

[ebon marlin]

let's put our thinking caps on

[stray portal]

🙁

[stray portal]

the newer model should be better not worse

[carmine yew]

probably, but by not being in the browser, the data stream is "safer"

[ebon marlin]

the newer model's design is worse

[fringe prairie]

mannn i should’ve picked one up
woot was selling a brand new one for like $350 recently

[ebon marlin]

damn

256 or 512 model

pixel fold 2023 supremacy

[fringe prairie]

i think 256

[ebon marlin]

they ruined the pixel folds with the redesign of pixel 9 fold

the original pixel fold design was perfect

it's understandable why apple is copying it

[hexed sage]

Y'all know Pikachu?

[ebon marlin]

no

[hexed sage]

Dang

[gaunt spade]

bradar give me foldable phone please its my dream

[ebon marlin]

fuck you bradar next comment

[wheat torrent]

which one is the fold

[ebon marlin]

both

[wheat torrent]

ok

[stray portal]

Oh yeah that old one was kinda goat

[ebon marlin]

pixel fold 9 pro on the left and pixel fold 2023 on the right

kinda? it is the goat

so goated that even apple is copying it lol

[gaunt spade]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bradar-krine-HwGL9KXTl1UmpZcSX6

[empty quartz]

I think when the iphone 22 comes out ill upgrade

Or maybe when support is dropped for the 16 pro max

[ebon marlin]

bad goyim

[hexed sage]

Bradar

[spring latch]

hackintoshing old hardware is always a joy (/j)

[hexed sage]

https://tenor.com/view/radar-love-search-gif-20027720

[gaunt spade]

https://giphy.com/gifs/israel-netanyahu-benjamin-Pk3ljzIDb4R0j3zpMU

[ebon marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-fun-white-cat-dance-cool-and-fun-times-gif-16435335956387921912

you need to upgrade annually to fund israel bradar

[kindred halo]

He's dead ❤️

[ebon marlin]

hope not

[empty quartz]

I hate crt’s </3

[gaunt spade]

thats what they want you to think

[hexed sage]

Why would you fund Israel?

[kindred halo]

@ebon marlin
I found this random shitty handheld with 64GB of storage, allegedly runs on Linux

[kindred halo]

Why not

[ebon marlin]

to fund more missiles

[ebon marlin]

sounds like garbage

unless it's a 64gb steam deck model?

[kindred halo]

I know
That's the entire charm of it
Dogshit ❤️

[kindred halo]

Nope

[hexed sage]

I'll just fund Iran at that point

[ebon marlin]

no bueno

[hexed sage]

Iran impressed

[ebon marlin]

the israeli families need more missiles

[hexed sage]

The Rothschild need money

[ebon marlin]

they're going to starve to death without your help to fund the missiles

[hexed sage]

True

[kindred halo]

I would
But they're funding us instead lmao

[kindred halo]

$35 E-Waste

But maybe maybe maybe

[ebon marlin]

ay caramba

[hexed sage]

How is that e waste?

Ok now that I look at it

[kindred halo]

For trying to run Linux.. Unless it's somehow good enough for very basic Linux

[hexed sage]

It looked like a cool retro handheld until I looked further

[empty quartz]

Meow

[ebon marlin]

you need a keyboard to run linux

[gaunt spade]

"found" "random shitty" and its the most popuar retro handhed

[ebon marlin]

keyboard is bare minimum

[hexed sage]

Steam deck

[kindred halo]

Wait whar

[hexed sage]

Genius

[gaunt spade]

r36s is very popular bradar

[ebon marlin]

mate that shit won't even run steamos without lagging

[hexed sage]

Android is also based on linux

[ebon marlin]

world's biggest geek

[empty quartz]

Barely

[kindred halo]

Never heard of it 💔

[hexed sage]

It could be running android and they can say it's running Linux 😭

[gaunt spade]

never looked into retro handhelds then

[ebon marlin]

it's popular because its cheap but it's also very weak

[kindred halo]

So it allegedly has a Cortex-A35 CPU

[hexed sage]

There's much better for retro handhelds

[gaunt spade]

its been out for years too

[empty quartz]

I hope apple keeps making the macbook neo

[kindred halo]

/ RK3326

[gaunt spade]

i remember seeing them for like 10-15$

[hexed sage]

I recommend the miyoo flip, it's based on a GBA SP

[kindred halo]

This one is $35

[hexed sage]

No clue about the performance but it runs stardew valley

[kindred halo]

Honestly I just looked at it because it allegedly has a Linux system on it

[gaunt spade]

too much

[kindred halo]

And I kinda like the idea of having a Linux machine on the go lol - even if pretty much useless

[hexed sage]

Most retro handhelds run on linux

Just very bare bones, think steamOS but for retro arch

[gaunt spade]

r36s was before all the premium handhelds became poppular

i wish i had a laptop

[hexed sage]

There was this other one that I forgot the name of that was based on the GBA I think

[empty quartz]

Soon enough asahi linux will support the macbook neo

[hexed sage]

Retroid pocket flip is another one i recommend

[kindred halo]

Is there a way to get them to run a normal Linux OS

With a keyboard or such ofc

[hexed sage]

I dont think so, what they run is closer to android and not really Linux

[gaunt spade]

why

most of them are android i believe

[kindred halo]

Aw

Unfortunate

[hexed sage]

I don't know why you'd wanna

Seems like a terrible experience

[tulip sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JazW_Rf0Ko&pp=ygUEUjM2Uw%3D%3D

[hexed sage]

I can't believe it

[ebon marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/bingus-floppa-big-floppa-bingus-attack-gif-25866718

[median warren]

knife

[tulip sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myeSuR5mNCc&pp=ygUEUjM2Uw%3D%3D

[hexed sage]

Did you know if you buy a $2k gaming computer you can also emulate retro game consoles?

[tulip sparrow]

I don't expect that thing to run anything newer then PS1/PSP/N64 honestly

[hexed sage]

I remember when the retroid pocket came out

[median warren]

np

[tulip sparrow]

and even then I don't expect higher then native and I expect slowdowns in N64

[median warren]

do it

[tulip sparrow]

BUT there are "fakes" of the R36S out there tho

[gaunt spade]

50$ LOL

[hexed sage]

That's not a lot of money

[gaunt spade]

not worth 50

[kindred halo]

I mean, I could probably buy it for whenever I don't have Internet

[tulip sparrow]

These reviews are over 2 years old for one LOL

[hexed sage]

Yes it is

[kindred halo]

Or try to toy around and make it run the Torvalds OS

[tulip sparrow]

Also sub $50 isn't a bad place to be

[hexed sage]

If you want a Gameboy advanced that you can't even get software on, thatll set you back $100

[kindred halo]

It's $39 here

[tulip sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Py2wnMWzw&pp=ygUEUjM2Uw%3D%3D

[eternal cloak]

Based on what exactly?

[kindred halo]

There's also higher end options it seems

[tulip sparrow]

Yeah retro Game Corps said $40

[hexed sage]

Like the steam deck

[kindred halo]

Found these two

[tulip sparrow]

So many retro handhelds out

[kindred halo]

I have no steam decks locally that aren't $620 OLED decks

[hexed sage]

The only retro game I like is the Pokemon series

And FM4

[hexed sage]

eBay?

[tulip sparrow]

The likes of Anbernic and OnexPlayer and Retroid have really saturated that market with so many options

[kindred halo]

There's nothing of that sort where I am

[tulip sparrow]

LCD decks went out of production

[hexed sage]

eBay is global?

[kindred halo]

Also I don't want to pay more than like $100 for something like this

[hexed sage]

Unless you live in a small village that has no mail service

[tulip sparrow]

PRetty sure I am missing a name or 2 in that mix would need to check Taki Udons channel for other names LOL

[kindred halo]

Shipping is like $50+ minimum lol

Minus taxes

[hexed sage]

Internationally maybe

[tulip sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIdTcgI24YA&pp=0gcJCcUKAYcqIYzv

[hexed sage]

But the buyer doesn't pay for shipping

[kindred halo]

I don't think anyone from Lebanon is putting stuff on EBay

[kindred halo]

Wdym 💔

[hexed sage]

I'm mistaken

[kindred halo]

Definitely watching

Gimme a minute

[hexed sage]

Don't get any of these

Get a fold

[kindred halo]

A what

[hexed sage]

https://tenor.com/view/game-boy-advance-sp-game-boy-advance-wario-land-4-handheld-nintendo-gif-4365956871348025283

There's retro consoles modeled after the gba sp

And they're great

[eternal cloak]

Gameboy Advanced SP, akshually

[left trellis]

alr chat, i might free myself from consumerism, and get a 2080 ti

[hexed sage]

That's what I said GBA sp

[eternal cloak]

That's just not true lol
On set price listings shipping is usually included in the price

[hexed sage]

Can you read before commenting on my message

[eternal cloak]

Brother you said a fold and sent a picture

[hexed sage]

I admitted to being mistaken

[eternal cloak]

Never

[tulip sparrow]

I personally can't do veritcal handhelds without my wrists screaming at me

[kindred halo]

$80 item

[hexed sage]

I'm not even gonna waste my time replying to a vtuber

[hexed sage]

For that one yes

[eternal cloak]

Most handhelds aren't gonna have a hinge either, most of em are 3D printed

[hexed sage]

Get the retroid flip 2

Only $200

[tulip sparrow]

Powkiddy was another name I missed

There is also the Odin line of devices

[bitter crater]

i got my 9070xt now, but im getting black screens for a second while playing cod, whats the cause?

[kindred halo]

ONLY?????

For $80 more I can get a used deck

[hexed sage]

Bro you just gotta get $50 4 times

Think about it

That's like a week's worth of work right there

[eternal cloak]

My name specifically says that I'm not a VTuber Mr. Murray

[kindred halo]

I am not paying $200 for a simple project item

[tulip sparrow]

I personally just use my 8.8" android tablet with SD8G3 and 12gb of ram with a controller

[hexed sage]

Nah it says v tuber

[kindred halo]

That's 1-2 months of salary on my end

[eternal cloak]

Yeah that's the point, supposed to 🪝 idiots like yourself

[kindred halo]

I genuinely just want a retro console that I can put Linux on