tech-chat-1

[winged sky]

[cursive agate]

because saying "its garbage" its not advise.

[ebon marlin]

gets the point through

[grizzled frost]

I mean it is, for 170usd you can do a lot better

Just go buy what you wanna buy man

[winged sky]

Buy used, usually cheaper

[ebon marlin]

why are third worlders like this

[grizzled frost]

Best of luck in your endeavors

[winged sky]

..wha

[ebon marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-feet-makkito-gif-16994902051798448531

meow

[grizzled frost]

The frequency of "you live in a first world country and thus you are spoiled and your opinions are all invalid" from people who are here from south america is insane

[winged sky]

Fair enough... yeahhhhh

[grizzled frost]

Because clearly poor people don't exist in first world countries

[ebon marlin]

gtx 1650 is the goat of dirt cheap gpus

started off with an i5 3470 office pc and added a 1650 to it and played all my games happily with that

[ebon marlin]

gtx 1060 6gb too if you can find it for a similar price

the additional 2gb of vram will help alot nowadays

yum

10 bucks more gets you a 1060 6gb

there's also a blower version for 35 but it's a blower version so no thanks

could do a whole lot of gaming with a 1650 or a 1060

ay caramba why is huawei forcing me to do a wireless phone clone transfer

my old device and huawei pura 70 pro both have usb-c 3.1 ports just let me transfer the data wired

https://tenor.com/view/cowl-cowls-gif-2563789475502710348

[topaz turtle]

so anyone have any thoughts on Alienware 16 Aurora vs MSI Cyborg 15 ?

[bitter crater]

FFS... i orderded a new gpu yesterday and now the package delivery service announced that they are going to strike... so i probably have to wait a while before getting it 🙁

[ebon marlin]

i'd avoid cyborg 15 due to it being MSI's lowest end model

it has loads of flaws

the coolest is insanely awful and iirc has a single ram slot

[snow mauve]

you may be able to do a claim with who you bought it through since that's not your fault, they are still liable for the delivery. maybe they can resend via somebody else?

[ebon marlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_S0M_cb0Ao

[bitter crater]

maybe, but i really dont want them to cancel it cause it was a >150 euro discount that day

[snow mauve]

i'd expect them to honor it...is it amazon?

[topaz turtle]

yeah thats the video i saw if the flaw is the screen

[bitter crater]

yeah it was amazon, here they only use dhl to deliver items

[topaz turtle]

i cant actualy find any reviews of it tbh

@ebon marlin so of these 2 youd be suggesting the Alienware even with the flawed screen ?

[ebon marlin]

which msi cyborg more specifically

[topaz turtle]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0FY37TDZR/ this one

https://www.msi.com/Laptop/Cyborg-15-B2RWX

the screen on the alienware seems terrible so idk

[clever tangle]

Would anyone be interested in making a Google sheet comparing every single phone released after 2020? have some ideas on formatting and I think something like this would be very helpful

[snow mauve]

thats probably a pretty easy ai project, just need to know what fields you're actually looking to measure/compare

[clever tangle]

Literally everything if possible. Make drop-down menus and other stuff and sort by brand, year etc

Idk

[snow mauve]

so you want somebody else to do the legwork on your project?

[odd marsh]

just do it yourself

[snow mauve]

good luck lol

yea, just do it. you have more help today than you ever had before with research projects like this

and quite likely somebody already had done something similar

[clever tangle]

No, to work with me and stuff

[topaz turtle]

@ebon marlin specs say the Cyborg has 2x ram slots

[clever tangle]

Idk guys

[ebon marlin]

hm I guess it's solid then

[ebon marlin]

i'm a phone enthusiast and this seems pointless tbh

gsmarena exists

Yum

[clever tangle]

On this you could make it where you can compare 10 phones if you want

[ebon marlin]

picture taken by a Pixel Fold 2023

[ebon marlin]

I don't think anyone has an use case for that

i think gsmarena can do 3 which is more than enough tbh

[clever tangle]

I defo wish I could do that

There's way too many phones nowadays to just be looking at 3 options

[ebon marlin]

eh not really

just setup claude and feed it gsmarena's site and ask it to generate something like it where you can compare upto 10 phones

[clever tangle]

Twas just an idea

[ebon marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1056598901383250041/1465707720232665184/attachment.gif

[topaz turtle]

yeah the alienware seems to have a flawed screen and that would drive me nuts, but on the other hand reviews for the Cyborg are non existant soooo

[craggy cove]

gsmarena the goat

just dont look at the comments

[ebon marlin]

the comments are always full of indians lmao

[craggy cove]

idk what their obsession of phones is about

poco c75 >>>

[craggy cove]

sell it all and buy a tradingshenzen oneplus 15

[ebon marlin]

pointless when global used oneplus 15's go for same price

also oneplus 15 has worse cameras than 13

[craggy cove]

that battery life tho

[craggy cove]

where?

[ebon marlin]

true

[craggy cove]

idk what kinda magic sauce they used

[ebon marlin]

the used markets here

[craggy cove]

7300 mah yes but it beats the weird 10k ones

[ebon marlin]

256gb models go for 600

[craggy cove]

i only see fire offers like these

[ebon marlin]

16/512g models go for 650-670

this was sold eventually for 550

[craggy cove]

suomilainen fooruma oi vittu

[ebon marlin]

i recently got a Huawei Pura 70 Pro for like 280€

512gb model

global version

[craggy cove]

thats certainly something to buy

[ebon marlin]

one of the best cameras in phones that's available

[craggy cove]

sheesh

[craggy cove]

for that msrp it better be

[ebon marlin]

I'm using a tensor g2 rn lmao

Pixel Fold 2023

[craggy cove]

those cheapass samsung flips tempt me so much

its a horrible idea but still

[ebon marlin]

do not

I dailied a Z Flip 4 and 5 and they were dogshit

[craggy cove]

i got a samsung s23 ultra with a broken screen and back for 100€
one ui feels so much nicer than oxygen os for some reason

[craggy cove]

damn rip

[ebon marlin]

imo OxygenOS is the best android skin

OneUI is disgusting

[craggy cove]

thats what everyone says but idk why i like it

maybe cause the phone is just faster than my 10t

[ebon marlin]

I have a Samsung Tab S10+ and OneUI handles the big screen so awfully

[peak knot]

Just rebuilt my main pc and now I can’t launch forza horizon 5 cause it keep says I have a page file violation so I went back to stock settings and it still says the same error, now I’m calculating pi to the 10 billionth place to stress test my ram as it uses exactly 48gbs of ram to do so

[craggy cove]

but its a 8+ gen 1 vs a 8 gen 2 so it shouldnt matter?

[craggy cove]

tablets in 2026 is crazy

[ebon marlin]

going to be a gift for my girlfriend

[craggy cove]

a dimensity 9300 and a msrp of 1k is crazy

tho i assume u didnt get it for 1k

[ebon marlin]

amoled panel btw

[craggy cove]

cause they give them away with phone plans n stuff

[ebon marlin]

oled screens on tablets are incredibly rare

and if it does have an oled screen they're incredibly costly

[craggy cove]

true

[peak knot]

Ps vita had a great oled display

[ebon marlin]

i got my S10+ for 370€ with the keyboard cover

i could sell the keyboard cover for 70€

[craggy cove]

and they got burnt to hell i assume

early oled ftw

[ebon marlin]

i've been searching for an S9 for a while and was about to buy a used 128gb S9 for 300€

[ebon marlin]

i have a psvita with an oled screen

it's weird

no burn in but alot of stuff have a green accent

[craggy cove]

oleds love the color green

[snow mauve]

you know what can't be green?

a star

sorry, nerdy tangent

[south arrow]

Hugepages is to highhj

Why 24000 lol try 22000

[craggy cove]

ms paint says otherwise

[agile topaz]

Thats fair enough, I've tested it around a bit and realized it's not gonna get that hot where it matters most; I'm just wondering if hitting a power limit would throttle me more than hitting the throttle limit

[flat cliff]

If I wanna start with my very basic self taught code knowledge and experiment with training and running models do you think 16gb on a 9070xt and 32gb ram is fine or should I really have 24gb and 64gb of system ram?

I have a NAS that I will only ever use to store files and be a Minecraft server so I could pull the 2070 (and replace with the 1060 3gb I have in my closet if it even still works) for the extra vram? That is if I don't buy my brothers 3070 ti off him? How much would a second card help if I'm mix matching AMD and Nvidia? Would the 3070 tj even help over the 2070 or no more vram so no?

I don't have a working OS on my desktop (not the NAS) windows did some shit and I half installed Linux before using my laptop full time so I can't just test on my actually desktop right now.

[agile topaz]

If I had to choose one I mean, which would I want more?

[south arrow]

Gotta leave ram some spaces on the bus otherwise it gets crowded and poops, background operations and such

XD

[ebon marlin]

You can see the green

[agile topaz]

It has decided to be xbox

[peak knot]

No I’m doing this to ensure the ram is 100% able to be used and doesn’t have any bad areas

[ebon marlin]

Still a nice screen

[peak knot]

Basically if I can use all 48gbs of data at once in this test than I know it’s not a hardware issue

[south arrow]

I see, I see. Is all well?

[peak knot]

I’m at the 3 billionth digit of pi atm got to get to 10 billion

[craggy cove]

switches r for noobs

[south arrow]

I uhm..

Hmm

[ebon marlin]

Old tech larp final boss

[flat cliff]

?

[south arrow]

Well sounds good i suppose xD if it was bad and fully utuilised probs would be having some kinda error

[ebon marlin]

also own 5 PSP's potentially 6th soon

[agile topaz]

Oh that reminds me, should we see around a 76% PPT limit hit at most during cinebench if our temps reach up to the top 80s?

[mint umbra]

I personally prefer one ui over oxygenos

so mighjt switch back to samsung

with next phone

[ebon marlin]

you're also canadian so your opinion is worth nothing

[mint umbra]

uhhh okay?

[ebon marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1056598901383250041/1465707720232665184/attachment.gif

[agile topaz]

I mean I'm hitting maybe just below 100W of PPT, reaching 89ish degrees

[mint umbra]

wanted next fold phone but seems too risk

Heard warrenty on those screens not the greatest

idk

[ebon marlin]

only fold that's worthwile is the 2023 Google Pixel Fold

[mint umbra]

still might do it anyway

[ebon marlin]

Oppo N6 fold also seems promising

[mint umbra]

I heard terrrible reviews on google fold

[ebon marlin]

idk personally haven't had any issues with the Pixel Fold

love mine

[mint umbra]

Might get the fold 8 when it comes out

since suppose to not have screen crease

[ebon marlin]

it's still going to be a samsung fold though

they've got the worst aspect ratio and ergonomics

out of every other foldable there is

[indigo temple]

im thinking of buying galaxy buds 4 pros and i have looked some that peopple are selling for 179€

[ebon marlin]

poop buds

[indigo temple]

they are in sealed box and with receipt and gotten with pre-roder of s26u

[indigo temple]

wdym?

kncok of?

or what

werent they supposed to be like androids airpods

[ebon marlin]

meh not really comparable

[indigo temple]

im currently using the buds 2 non pros and they are trying to over heat and i would apreacite better clarity and anc

[frigid blade]

Is this a modded thinkpad?

[ebon marlin]

i think oneplus is moreso of Airpods competitor

[frigid blade]

I’ve seen one where they put a mobo with some crazy specs into one

[craggy cove]

its how they made them in 2008

core ultra and all

[indigo temple]

but you aint saying that the 4 pros are bad?

[ebon marlin]

Huawei's earbuds are in a lane of their own though

[frigid blade]

Would it could just be a stream into a different one that’s why I ask

[craggy cove]

i mean it seems pretty smart considering these things are fat

[ebon marlin]

first wireless earbuds to have actual lossless support

[indigo temple]

but are the galaxys still good?

[frigid blade]

I used to “play gta 5” on our school pc and people were confused

[craggy cove]

so you can fit cooling

[frigid blade]

But I was just connected to my pc at home

[indigo temple]

arent b&w pi8 first?

[craggy cove]

try doing that with geforce now and youll be sitting in queue until the school day is over

larp larp sahur

[frigid blade]

Is it that bad on the free queues?

[ebon marlin]

alot of headphones claim they support lossless but can't push enough data for actual lossless

[frigid blade]

We used to bring controllers and play rocket league in the iPads with GeForce now

[stray portal]

Huawei is a big example of why us reliance is bad

[indigo temple]

so are there any other competitors for the galaxy buds 4 pros if i would pay 170€ for them

[frigid blade]

You mean with bt right?

[ebon marlin]

yuh

[frigid blade]

Yah you don’t got enough bandwidth on bt for lossless

[formal sonnet]

These Bluetooth headphones support lossless audio! Pay no mind to the lossy codec we use over Bluetooth though...

[craggy cove]

all lossless does for me is destroy the battery life

[indigo temple]

where should i be able to find list or smt where i can compare or find the best audio quality with best anc

[ebon marlin]

Huawei has developed it's own way so they can do actual lossless wirelessly

[craggy cove]

i cannot hear a difference

[ebon marlin]

if you're using wireless you're not hearing wireless

you either need huawei's earbuds for wireless or wired headphones

[frigid blade]

My gf says she can tell the difference between lossless on Spotify with her wireless headphones, I’m about to make her mad lol

[solid tundra]

i have 4060 8gb and 12400 i5 24GB ram and im having trouble running games like fortnite or rust at 120 fps if i were to upgrade my pc what should i replace?

[craggy cove]

rust is an optimization nightmare and fortnite shouldnt be that hard to run

[indigo temple]

that ram combo sound funky and your gpu aint powerhouse either

is your cpu the f model?

[ebon marlin]

best anc is by airpods and they're usable on Android now

[indigo temple]

but non updateble

[solid tundra]

i used to have 8x4 but 1 of the ram sticks just stopped working and my computer wont turn on with it plugged in

[ebon marlin]

they are now

[indigo temple]

and im not using APPLe

[solid tundra]

no

[indigo temple]

okey

[ebon marlin]

if you like bass then Oneplus Buds 3 Pro would be a better choice than Samsung Buds 4 Pro

[flat cliff]

?

[kindred halo]

Your system definitely should get 120 FPS on Fortnite

[ebon marlin]

samsung buds 4 pro is just more balanced

[indigo temple]

at what prce point?

[craggy cove]

#justeqit

[kindred halo]

What motherboard do you have
Exact model

[indigo temple]

and i have herard they are really comfortable aslo

[kindred halo]

I think your problem is a RAM slot issue

[ebon marlin]

think i saw a sealed one on tori for like 70€ today

[solid tundra]

prime b660m-a d4

[indigo temple]

okey

[kindred halo]

One second

[formal sonnet]

https://www.soundguys.com/best-wireless-earbuds-2-14313/
and
https://www.soundguys.com/earbuds-headphones/
are great places to start your research.

[ebon marlin]

i used to own oneplus buds pro 3 I loved them but I lost the charging case lol

[indigo temple]

but im not sure the buds 4 pros are so tempting

[ebon marlin]

I now use CMF Buds 2 Plus

[indigo temple]

thanks

[ebon marlin]

dirt cheap and can't tell the difference between Airpods Pro 2 and Oneplus Buds Pro 3 which are better than Airpods pro 2 aswell

[indigo temple]

okey

[craggy cove]

i use sony linkbuds s cause im niche like that

and they were 25€

[indigo temple]

i have always tried to keep my tech under one name/brand so it could support seamless connect

[ebon marlin]

lasts around 13 hours in a single charge perfect for work so I don't have to pause my stuff to charge my earbuds

[indigo temple]

i ones listened the over ear xm4 and i HAVE NEVER heard any headphones sound good as they did

[ebon marlin]

seamless connect is handled by Google eitherway

[indigo temple]

okey

[ebon marlin]

doesn't matter

[formal sonnet]

As someone with Sony's WH-1000XM3's, same. To my ears, I've found nothing that sounds as good with as good of Noise Cancelling as Sony's over-ear.

[indigo temple]

i would love to get sonys xms but 400 no thanks you

[kindred halo]

This image is from your motherboard manual
Place only two RAM sticks in the specified slots

[craggy cove]

counting or not counting wired headphones

[indigo temple]

idk what it was but they sounded jsut so frecking good

[ebon marlin]

best way to live is have everything by different brands so you have the best of everything

[solid tundra]

is it seriously gonna be better than 3 ram sticks?

[indigo temple]

i have never really listen studio wired headphones so both

[craggy cove]

i have a oneplus phone and nvidia gpu 🔥

[ebon marlin]

lovely

[south arrow]

Sparks also spoke positively of them, im testing the mx5s also, its a good time

[indigo temple]

i have been on some hifi conventions at helsinki but there were some headphones but i didnt get to listen them that much

[indigo temple]

too expensive

[formal sonnet]

I've got Sony's WF-C710N earbuds now too. I won't lie; they're not the best sounding buds out there, but for $120 CAD, I also haven't found anything as good in terms of battery life, noise cancelling, and reliably connecting to my devices without needing to be factory reset every month or so. And I make heckin' use of Sony's ANC passthrough feature so I can listen to music and hold a conversation. I'd love me a pair of Ultimate Ears custom IEM's, but they're not Bluetooth, and I don't have $2000 CAD to blow on earbuds so... nope.

[indigo temple]

i have used jabra evolve 75 overears for sometime as over ear headphones and i love them but i would need to upgrade my buds now

[south arrow]

Valid lol I got mine used for like 110 and cleaned them just in case. Still spendy though fs

[craggy cove]

only reason i want new wired headphones are because the m-40x are just too small

[kindred halo]

Yes

[indigo temple]

i really have to check other options now

[craggy cove]

but i got them for 15€ so i cant justify a 100€ open back headphone or something

[ebon marlin]

I'll wait for new CMF earbuds before I'll get new earbuds since I like their battery life

[indigo temple]

but i had only considered the buds 4 pros cause they were apparantly very confortable and sounded good

[kindred halo]

@solid tundra Tell me when you place the RAM sticks in the shown order, there's a step you may need to take after this to help increase performance further

[ebon marlin]

any half decent earbuds by a reputable brand are comfortable

i've used many earbuds and only uncomfortable earbuds i've used are no name brand earbuds

[indigo temple]

i also listen some bone conduct headhpines and they sounded really good

i was to impressed for the reason that they were bone conducting

[craggy cove]

bonesss

[ebon marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/капибара-gif-15656021286497190682

[solid tundra]

ok i did what now

[indigo temple]

i will most likely still go with the buds 4 pros bc head gestures and improved anc

i dont need lossless on my earbuds bc im not gonna be using lossless on the go (1gb/h)

is little bit too much imo

[ebon marlin]

your device eitherway doesn't support lossless

[indigo temple]

what u mean?

[ebon marlin]

wireless lossless

[indigo temple]

not a thin right?

thing*

[ebon marlin]

currently only huawei devices support wireless lossless

[indigo temple]

my family has movie/gaming theatre with 7.2.1 or some config

[ebon marlin]

true wireless lossless*

[indigo temple]

so if i really want to listen lossless i can with speakers

[ebon marlin]

7.2 sound system

[indigo temple]

yeah

[ebon marlin]

needs 7 speakers to achieve that

and 2 subwoofers

[indigo temple]

my dad thought of buying svjs or something like that basses but i sayed mom will hate them

they sounded like thunder

[ebon marlin]

yum 5.2

[indigo temple]

arent the xx.something highs?

they are hidden/hard to take pic of them all in same

[ebon marlin]

3 bomboclat mouth

and 1 eye

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1056598901383250041/1465707720232665184/attachment.gif

[solid tundra]

@kindred halo ?

[indigo temple]

i think the subwoofers are like 12 inch 1000w woofers or somewhere in there

[ebon marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/gdg-gif-27653917

[wheat torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/ive-gone-completely-sane-sane-cat-meme-gif-23216190

[kindred halo]

Sorry, sorry

Okay, did you turn on your PC?

[indigo temple]

better hope so

[solid tundra]

yes

[kindred halo]

Go to task manager

Click on the performance tab, then memory (or RAM)

Then, send an image

[peak swan]

I love HP soo much

[kindred halo]

You're running XMP (which is signified by the RAM speed being 3200 MT/s) - That's good, it means your RAM is at full speed most probably

Now, test your games out! They'll probably run better than before

[solid tundra]

when i had 24gb ram it was using much more memory for the same stuff

[kindred halo]

Huh, that's interesting
16GB should be fine enough though, do you have any monitoring software like MSI Afterburner?

[solid tundra]

i just have the nvidia panel

[kindred halo]

Turn on the performance overlay option on it, and configure it to show RAM usage

Monitor it during gameplay, see if you get any stutters or such

[solid tundra]

my pc sometime stuttered even when playing light games

is it because of the ram?

[cerulean estuary]

I plan on building a small server, about 8-16TB for my own personal use, would it be better to use a stand alone two drive NAS or build the server into my own personal computer? I plan on building a direct line to access it remotely via a VPN.

[kindred halo]

When you had three sticks or four?

[solid tundra]

three

[cerulean estuary]

It is basically always better to have two or four as ram performs better in pairs

[kindred halo]

It shouldn't usually lead to things as severe as stutters, but that could cause it

[cerulean estuary]

Wait is the timing and frequency of all the ram matched up?

[kindred halo]

You'll probably run games smoother with the two sticks because of a feature on computers called 'Dual Channel'

[solid tundra]

yeah

[kindred halo]

They're running 3200, so seems to be matching

[cerulean estuary]

I was more wondering if like one set is running 16 and the odd stick is running 18 or more

Anyone I know who has added more later thats the most common thing Ive seen them mix up

[kindred halo]

They had a 4x8 kit, but one stick died

[cerulean estuary]

Ahhhhh

Sorry I didnt have all the context

[kindred halo]

Don't apologise - not your fault

Pretty good guess with the info you had, actually

Anyway, @solid tundra
Use NVidia overlay, play a bit, see how it goes

[solid tundra]

im getting stutters rn my pc just froze for like 10 seconds

[cerulean estuary]

Another thing to check is to make sure one other stick isnt dying, if youre sticks are in 2,3,4 and now 2 or 4 is dying your computer wouldnt be able to take advantage of dual channel

[kindred halo]

That's definitely not a RAM issue - Atleast in configuration

[kindred halo]

I told them to use slots 2 & 4

[solid tundra]

what is it then

[kindred halo]

Too vague, can't help you there

#1027757333117415424 is where you need to go now

[cerulean estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-lord-of-the-rings-theoden-king-of-rohan-you-have-no-power-here-gif-4952489

[kindred halo]

Not anymore, unfortunately

I can help with basic tech issues, but not all of them

Though one idea I have to facilitate the process is to open event viewer @solid tundra

Filter for errors

[cerulean estuary]

Same, my next guess is either CPU or GPU, depending on if his computer was still doing things and it was just visually frozen or if it was a total freeze

[kindred halo]

12400 & 4060 - Shouldn't be causing any issues in their native, stable operation

[solid tundra]

my cpu might be worned out a little

[cursive agate]

wich amd ryzen 7 should i get?

[cerulean estuary]

True but do we know if they were second hand or ever overheated

[kindred halo]

Oh yeah - thermal throttling

[cerulean estuary]

Well you could always go for the X3D's

[kindred halo]

@solid tundra Okay, I've two programs you could install for testing

Though, one is currently more important

It's core temp

Just shows your CPU temperatures

[solid tundra]

it shows on task manager

[kindred halo]

iirc it only shows your GPU temps on task manager?

Oh wait, you can just use NVidia overlay

[charred knot]

hey quick question. is there a way i can see what programs are sending out signal to my argb headers. lol.

[kindred halo]

Just set it to show all metrics lol

[cursive agate]

i would buy a low end graphics card but i'd prefer if the processor itself had good graphics, i dont play heavy games anyways, just want decent fps and reliable usage

[kindred halo]

1. What board do you own
2. What's your budget

[solid tundra]

doesnt show it

[kindred halo]

Is there no way to make it show more? Check settings

[cursive agate]

i didnt choose a mother board yet
and i have a low budget (around or less than 1000 dollars) but the prices are very different here in argentina so idk

[solid tundra]

i dont think so

[kindred halo]

Oh, Argentina?
Makes things a little harder..

Okay, what online stores can you use?

[kindred halo]

Then it's best you install a program called OCCT

[cursive agate]

the best one here is compragamer.com/armatupc

[kindred halo]

It's pretty much the all-rounder for testing your system, no risks either

[kindred halo]

Okay, one second, I'll try to find you something

[cursive agate]

the other ones sell shitty components no one knows about

[kindred halo]

Can you buy from Amazon, Newegg, or such?

[cursive agate]

yeah, but everything has like 40+ dollars shipping

[kindred halo]

Will have to keep it in mind, I'll try to send you parts with okay shipping prices if they're better / worth the price over local stuff

[cursive agate]

BUT... we dont pay taxes up to 400 dollars per item

[kindred halo]

Do a RAM test, first thing

[kindred halo]

Oh? That's good

[solid tundra]

this?

[kindred halo]

Anyway, I'll first try to see if you can make a system with a GPU

[kindred halo]

Yes, iirc

[solid tundra]

what should i put the settings at and for how long

[cursive agate]

i was searching and found that the rx 6600 is good here for its price

[unique aspen]

ah hell no

[kindred halo]

Keep the settings the same
Time 15min

[kindred halo]

What's the price

[kindred halo]

I can't find a website called armatupc

[cursive agate]

its a division of compragamer

that lists all the pc parts they have so you can make your own pc

[kindred halo]

Oh

[wheat torrent]

What

[cursive agate]

can't find it anymore

[wheat torrent]

Its not hard

[cursive agate]

everyone passes through that at least once in their lives 😔

[kindred halo]

Have you considered getting used parts

[cursive agate]

i don't really know how to look for them

[kindred halo]

Facebook marketplace, or search for any online stores that sell used parts

Also, what games are you planning to play?

[cursive agate]

i have like 200+ mods on a minecraft server that i'd like to pair with shaders, and i have a steam family with my friends where half the titles don't work on my actual pc

[rigid fjord]

if gaming, any x3d one, if not gaming then a 7700x or 9700x

[kindred halo]

Their budget is $1000, and Argentinian
A 7700X is like more than a third of the budget

[cursive agate]

but some titles would be detroit become human, rdr2, rocket league, fortnite, etc (i dont mind 30-60 fps and low graphics i just want the game to be responsive)

[rigid fjord]

5700x then

[kindred halo]

5700x on a local site is.. Lemme check

[cursive agate]

already checked

[rigid fjord]

you're not going to have a decent igpu for the better part and will want to use a gpu with it

[cursive agate]

~300 dollars

[kindred halo]

$192

267K Pesos

[cursive agate]

here is 313k pesos

[kindred halo]

Yeah they'll probably need an 8700G at the minimum, and that probably won't play well

[rigid fjord]

more managable, and with a 32gb kit of 3200 cl16 ram combined with a b550

[kindred halo]

You're looking at the more expensive option
Scroll up, there's one cheaper

[cursive agate]

remember the 40k shipping and 10% tax (i said there were no taxes but the 10% is mandatory on every purchase in the country)

[rigid fjord]

would be the only way currently to have a decent igpu on a desktop format

[cursive agate]

?

[rigid fjord]

that is the correct cpu model to what i said

[kindred halo]

I believe so - they're all named the same

[kindred halo]

Oh, 40K Peso shipping

[rigid fjord]

if it ever just said 5700, do not touch it

[cursive agate]

there isn't a cheaper 5700x

there are 5700 xt's, g's, and [ ]'s

[kindred halo]

Same website you're on

268K Pesos

[cursive agate]

oh right

but why is it listed 2 times

[kindred halo]

Different sellers probably

[rigid fjord]

the 'g' is an apu (comes with an igpu, and an ok one at that) and where a 5700 is, it's a 5700g with the igpu disabled and actually sucks

[kindred halo]

Doesn't the 5700 have like half the L3

Also, how good is the Vega on the 5700G?

[solid tundra]

done what now

[kindred halo]

Did it show any errors

[rigid fjord]

not really, dual ccd'd cpu's perform worser than single ccd'd cpus for gaming purposes, they're only worth it for production work due to scheduler issues

[cursive agate]

one of the 5700x says "Turbo AM4 tray", the other one just says "Turbo AM4"

[solid tundra]

no

[kindred halo]

Which one says only Turbo AM4

[ebon marlin]

Is it normal to hear my aio "squirting"

[cursive agate]

the more expensive one

[rigid fjord]

it's literally a 5700g with the igpu disabled, and the igpu is basically a gtx1030 performance

[kindred halo]

Then your RAM is good
Onto GPU, what testing options do you get?

[kindred halo]

GT 1030 performance 💔
Okay, not HORRIBLE

[ebon marlin]

Oh it's Camju asking for help again

[solid tundra]

3d adaptive and vram

[kindred halo]

But just getting a 1050 Ti will be more worth it

[ebon marlin]

This dude is impossible

[kindred halo]

Why

[rigid fjord]

if gaming, yes, primarily 13th gen, if production then core ultra 200 series currently

[ebon marlin]

He will not listen to us saying to him to get a Ryzen 5 5600 and a used Gtx 1650 he wants to get a 5700G instead

[kindred halo]

Errr
Do five minutes of each, the GPU isn't too high of priority

[cursive agate]

because he basically said "trash" "bullshit" "horseshit" instead of reccomending allternatives an i got mad

[honest vine]

hey guys can some one help

[kindred halo]

If the 5700G had a decent GPU it would've been worth it

[ebon marlin]

You were recommend alternatives and you decided to write a whole paragraph rant instead

[rigid fjord]

for a fair while, it was the best igpu on desktop format, now for amd it's basic standard tbh

[kindred halo]

Well he's not wrong
The 5700G isn't too great for modern standards

[cursive agate]

yeah i don't wanna buy the g

[kindred halo]

Oh no I am not saying that it wasn't ground-breaking for the on-board graphics scene, but it's not that much of a wow now

Don't Intel Arc 64EU iGPUs and such on the standard Core Ultras outperform it?

[kindred halo]

Good

[honest vine]

today i put my plug in outlet and it was lose connection so had a small spark my pc was off and left scorches on power cable should i worry

[rigid fjord]

depending on what you're doing, yes it can be, though 13th gen intel does mean you can choose to go cheaper (ddr4 setup) or suffer the greater price hike (ddr5 setup)

[kindred halo]

Reminds me of myself from a year ago

Always asking for help, lol

Decided to just shut up about it because Floppa yelled at me yesterday about it

[cursive agate]

so shuld i go with the [5700x ..... tray] or the [5700x]?

[ebon marlin]

5600

[kindred halo]

The i5 13400F is a great budget gaming / productivity CPU

[ebon marlin]

No real performance difference between 5600 and 5700x

[kindred halo]

5600GT

[honest vine]

today i put my plug in outlet and it was lose connection so had a small spark my pc was off and left scorches on power cable should i worry

[rigid fjord]

yeah they do, but tbf amd's igpu performances went in the equivalence of 1030 ->1050 -> 1630 -> 1060/1650 ->3060

[ebon marlin]

Paying extra for 2 cores which you won't utilize eitherway (you had a long rant about people buying stuff that they won't utilize eitherway and you are part of that category)

[kindred halo]

Btw price difference between the two (5600XT & 5700X) is like 10 dollars

[cursive agate]

gt or xt?

[ebon marlin]

Non-x and non-xt

Just the 5600 no letters

[rigid fjord]

not really, it's primarily a relabelled 12400f

[kindred halo]

Don't buy any CPU with a G in it if you don't plan on using the iGPU

[kindred halo]

There's none, genuinely

[ebon marlin]

Check other stores and used markets

[kindred halo]

Second option is a 5600GT, then back down to 5500

[rigid fjord]

there's some differences there, specifically core amounts

[ebon marlin]

Ay caramba

[kindred halo]

They said that other stores are overpriced, and don't really know how to buy used

[ebon marlin]

#tech-chat-1 message

[sage bone]

anyone got an idea on what price to put to sell my old pc, 11600k 32gb 3200mhz 16x2, 512gb ssd and a b580?

[rigid fjord]

same cpu performance, the gt is just a 5600g tbh with a little better binning

[cursive agate]

there's a big difference between paying 20 dollars more for 2 cores than payong 300 dollars more for little advantage

[kindred halo]

@cursive agate https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-5000-series-ryzen-5-5600-vermeer-socket-am4-desktop-cpu-processor/p/N82E16819113736

[rigid fjord]

400

[kindred halo]

139 dollars, comes with a wraith stealth

[cursive agate]

i should remind you that prices are different here

[kindred halo]

Free shipping

[sage bone]

usd?

[ebon marlin]

Mate genuinely what the fuck are you talking about

[rigid fjord]

yes

[ebon marlin]

Is every third worlder this stupid

[sage bone]

damn

[ebon marlin]

What fucking 300 dollars more are you talking about

[cursive agate]

no shipping to argentina

[ebon marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1040415733374533675/1460573072380661791/togif.gif

[kindred halo]

Oh - right.
Sorry 💔

[cursive agate]

the 5700x costs 20 dollars more than the 5600 💔

[ebon marlin]

I understand now how Javier got elected in Argentine when it's citizens are like this

[queen trout]

https://tenor.com/view/joo-jew-jewl-s4j78-gif-5651286586900019647

[rigid fjord]

exact same cpu there, the only difference is that a tray model only comes in the plastic clamshell cover compared to a non-tray model

[kindred halo]

I understand that they aren't being the brightest - but please, you're being rude

Anyway, back to it @cursive agate What does Facebook marketplace show if you search for a 5600

[ebon marlin]

Camju keeps doing this completely random bullshit points which no one will ever understand

He did that to me and Iroh previously lmao

[frail sequoia]

changed my background, shows what im listening too at the bottom (heres 2 examples for proof)

[cursive agate]

marketplace is not very safe here, so i would prefer to pay a little extra to not go there

[kindred halo]

The difference is how you're approaching it
If you keep acting rude, they'll just leave and ask someone else later

It's best to be patient and try to reach whoever you're talking to, or just leave the conversation and declare politely that you can offer no more help

[solid tundra]

no errors on both

[ebon marlin]

I don't think he even understands what's he's saying himself

[kindred halo]

Fair enough, is there absolutely no store online you know or saw that sells used products?

[kindred halo]

How so?

[ebon marlin]

Wish you were there when me and Iroh were trying to help him

You would understand then

[kindred halo]

Great
Okay, here's something you should do before doing any other tests

Open event viewer & filter for errors

[kindred halo]

Can you link a message from that discussion
I am now intrigued

[solid tundra]

where is that located

[rigid fjord]

there comes a point where multiple regulars have gotten a burn out due to to much stupidity happening here

[kindred halo]

Search it in your taskbar search bar, if I remember right

[ebon marlin]

#tech-chat-1 message

[kindred halo]

I understand it, I've seen it happen (with me on the receiving end) - all I am trying to do is help minimise such occurrences in the future

[cursive agate]

trying to help by saying that every processor below 400 dollars that i asked about was "garbage" "bullshig" "horseshit" that wasnt helping at all.

[ebon marlin]

We gave you recommendations

No one ever recommended you a 400 dollar cpu

You're just making up scenarios to get mad at

[kindred halo]

Well, I don't believe they were giving those traits to you, were they?

[kindred halo]

Reading

[ebon marlin]

Bro is the reader

Bro specializes in discord reading

[cursive agate]

well, its rude that when i ask about something i can barely afford they start saying its bullshit instead of reccomending better options.

[kindred halo]

I apologise for you having to read what I just read

[ebon marlin]

You were recommended better options

[ebon marlin]

I told you

[kindred halo]

They specified that the options you were sending weren't good - and you went on about "performance per dollar not existing here" - and "who the fuck needs 500 FPS on a 240Hz monitor"

You clearly don't understand enough of the topic to be arguing seriously

[ebon marlin]

You asked an opinion about 2 different cpus and "garbage" is an appropriate answer since you asked for an opinion on 2 different cpus lol

[vital gyro]

I thought all thermal pastes from reputable brands would work with my 5800 XT, but I was very wrong. Corsair TM30 (3.8 W/mK) + Thermalright Aqua 360 Elite V4 is literally only 4-5 degrees cooler than Wraith Prism + Stock Paste. I had YeesterPaste when I first built the system (12.8 W/mK) with the AIO and temps were like 10-15 C lower.

[ebon marlin]

You were given a better recommendation

[rigid fjord]

when this guy finishes typing, i'm expecting a 3 paragraph speach

[kindred halo]

I'll check if there are any prebuilts worth their weight in your price range - otherwise, a 5600XT will be the base of your system

[ebon marlin]

Why not just get ptm

[kindred halo]

5600G, 8400F ❤️

[rigid fjord]

tm30 is one of the worst pastes to ever get when it comes to thermal performance

[ebon marlin]

Corsair generally doesn't have any good thermalpastes iirc

[kindred halo]

Shit CPU if it's paired with a dGPU

Shit CPU if paired with anything ❤️

[rigid fjord]

5600g only good for nas, and an 8400f is trash

[vital gyro]

I don't see the point with a CPU with an IHS. The thermalpaste between the die and IHS will probably bottleneck it.

[rigid fjord]

it doesn't

[ebon marlin]

Any cpu is good for a nas aslong as it has integrated graphics

[kindred halo]

Why it doesn't even have enough have lanes to ATLEAST run x16, I'll never understand

[ebon marlin]

It's why people build NAS's with the system core being stuff like 2nd gen Intel cpus

[kindred halo]

Personally I'd take Haswell at the minimum
It's both super cheap, and iirc they added some technologies that help a bunch with these tasks

[rigid fjord]

true, but tbf a cpu that equates to a 3600 combined with a gt1030 you got a good bit of performance there

[kindred halo]

Don't take my word on it though, my main knowledge on NAS' is that they're PCs built to be local storage

[ebon marlin]

Performance doesn't really matter on NAS's as you're eitherway going to be bottlenecked by the harddrive speeds

[kindred halo]

Fair

Okay, I am getting a 9950X3D for my NAS then

[ebon marlin]

Lovely

Using the L3 cache as ssd cache

[rigid fjord]

a pure nas is, there are those that treat a nas as a server which then determines other requirements for it's specs

[kindred halo]

LMAO
That's hilarious

[cursive agate]

well i just read what i said earlier and i confirm that i wasn't acting in the best way possible, i was very stressed because i was just thinking about some personal problems and suddently decided it was the best time to stress about something else. my apologies to @ebon marlin and @grizzled frost

[kindred halo]

Well.. Server is a little vague
Video game server? Local server for a website or something?

iirc, you can probably get away with a 4c4t depending on the type

[kindred halo]

That's a good lad

[grizzled frost]

Faith in humanity restored

[ebon marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-axolotl-meme-ai-ai-slop-gif-320631449476692671

[grizzled frost]

what the fuck

[kindred halo]

Catxolotl

[ebon marlin]

Never seen an axolotl cat hybrid that can fly?

[grizzled frost]

I vote for Caxolotl

[rigid fjord]

server is a wide term in general, not so much being vague tbh, some like to stream from it using plex or jellyfin so a dgpu for transcoding becomes super useful there

[kindred halo]

Caxolotl works fine too

[ebon marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/docker-pull-ubuntu-gif-26210830

[kindred halo]

Oh err

On the topic of building PCs

I am a little torn between just taking the hit and getting expensive AM5, or cheaper AM4

[grizzled frost]

docker pull bitches

[kindred halo]

Just to clarify, this will only be put into effect within a few months

[rigid fjord]

gaming wise, then a a higher cored cpu becomes more poignant when hosting

[kindred halo]

What is required of a GPU to be good Server-based for enc/dec?

[cursive agate]

so should i go with this one or is there any better options?

[grizzled frost]

Looks solid

Whether or not there's better options depends on the where you're sourcing it

There are better AM4 chips, but idk how expensive they are for ya

[rigid fjord]

bare minimum is a gt1030 for many

[kindred halo]

-Current ideas are:
9600X ($200)
B850M-P ($180)
1x16GB 5600 unknown CL ($100)

5600x ($112)
X570 PG4 (($112)
2x8GB 3600 Unknown CL ($66)

[kindred halo]

Doesn't the 1030 not have NVidia enc/dec

That's what I saw on TPU

Wait no
It has no NVENC

NVDec is 3rd gen

[rigid fjord]

i'd get a b550 if i went for the 5600x tbh

[cursive agate]

wich gpu should i go with?

[rigid fjord]

for where transcode is concerned, it's the decoder that matters

afaik

[ebon marlin]

Could save a nice amount of money if you got a different mobo and cpu with AM5

Ryzen 5 7600 performs the exact same for way cheaper

[kindred halo]

Second cheapest CPU is an 8500G

[rigid fjord]

he's in lebannon

[ebon marlin]

B650M should be around 100 bucks

Lesbanon ay caramaba

[kindred halo]

The only B650 with a VRM Heatsink that isn't ASRock for sub 200 is an MSI one, and it doesn't have what I want out of a board

[kindred halo]

She's*, please

[ebon marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/ive-gone-completely-sane-sane-cat-meme-gif-23216190

Oh my god bruh it's almost 1am and I gotta wake up in 5 hours for work

Goodnight homos

[ivory mountain]

w*rk

[kindred halo]

Goodnight

[kindred halo]

More expensive than the X570 btw LOL

[kindred halo]

What sort of home-based server would need something like a Xeon?

[kindred halo]

What games do you want to play again?

Anything other than MC with shaders?

[cursive agate]

rdr2, cyberpunk, fortnite, cs2...

i dont mind low graphics

[kindred halo]

Okay then, those are doable, even if a little intense
Gimme a second

[snow mauve]

i was part of the crowd that really was disappointed with the initial cyberpunk release obviously and just never went back. i know it's much better now i just dont have the time

[hollow hare]

guys please anybody knows how to download an Android app on my windows please I have been searching for months the app can be run officially on Shelly on windows

[rigid fjord]

something like a nas that doubles up as an nvr could require it

[ivory mountain]

im just like you, and when i actually do have the time to play it i wanna do literally anything else

[cursive agate]

google play store runs natively on windows, although you'll need emulators for some apps

[ivory mountain]

honestly rather be unemployed than make the $11/hr i make at these fuckass food places

soo not worth it

[rigid fjord]

there 2 types of xeon cpu's btw @kindred halo

there's the consumer ones and then there's the server/enterprise ones

[charred knot]

guys i figured the lighting out

[hollow hare]

i tried to download emulators like Bluestack, but it can't run the app

[cursive agate]

the app might not be compatible with emulators

try... buying an old 20 dollar phone 👍🏻

[hollow hare]

but it perfomance would be limited right

[cursive agate]

i dont know, what are you trying to open?

[kindred halo]

@cursive agate Are you okay with your case having fixed RGB

[kindred halo]

Had to leave sorry

[hollow hare]

well sorry if i sound unclear. My knowledge is limited, what do you mean by buying an old phone how it work

[kindred halo]

And yeah, there's the consumer stuff, with some pretty much being Intel Core chips but renamed and such, and the big Xeon stuff with a BUNCH of cores

[cursive agate]

nah i dont mind, i can change it anyways, cases are like 30 dollars

[rigid fjord]

np

[cursive agate]

so, tell me the whole story, why do you want to execute an apk on windows?

[kindred halo]

Actually, the price difference isn't much, plus the slightly more expensive case has better support for larger GPUs and such

[kindred halo]

@rigid fjord iirc one Xeon is pretty much equivalent to a locked 11700 lol?

Also quick question, I assume a 5600 XT will be okay with a wraith stealth?

[cursive agate]

i mean, if it comes with a wraith stealth i dont see why it wouldn't work right?

[rigid fjord]

depends dude, theres some xeons equal to a 3600

[rigid fjord]

it'll work, just not great for that cpu

[kindred halo]

I don't remember exactly, just gave an example I somewhat remember to show how close some are lol

[hollow hare]

Thanks, well I, am studying online and the only platform where I can watch the exclusive course is not allowed on Windows, so they avoid leaking the courses i know it sounds stupid and i can't afford an ipad that's why

[kindred halo]

Okay.. In that case, generic 120mm tower!!

[cursive agate]

and do you have a phone?

[rigid fjord]

wraith spire or better you'd look at tbh for a 5600/5600x/5600xt

[hollow hare]

yes i have an iPhone, but i hate using it due to its small screan i prefer the laptop

[pulsar root]

Mac mini or neo

[kindred halo]

Fair

[cursive agate]

can you cast the image to a tv?

because if it's a security reason, the app will not work on windows

[hollow hare]

you mean there is no chance to work? on windows

yes it's a security reason

[undone star]

So I just went to turn one of my arcade machines on for the first time since I shut it off for the summer and it doesn't show any output to the monitor(no post or nothing) and I spotted this on the board

Is it toast or is that something I can clean with isopropyl? Looks like one or more of those caps gave out while it was off

[rigid fjord]

that looks like dust on the board

[undone star]

Definitely something more than dust since this is after I blew it off

[kindred halo]

B570 or 5050?.. Unsure if the 570 has enough compute to make the extra 2GB worth it over a 5050 (though the latter is more expensive)

I'll watch a quick comparison

[rigid fjord]

dust can stick to the board tbh, any blown off is just the loose stuff

[undone star]

Well ill give it a wipedown with ipa, cant hurt, the board is off the shelf in this computer but the hard drives are irreplaceable

[rigid fjord]

use a dry clean paintbrush that's never seen paint on it

[pulsar root]

Do yall use dp or hdmi

[empty quartz]

Got to mess around with what used to be a $5000 usd all in one desktop

[rigid fjord]

both, and also dvi-d

[undone star]

i've got an ultra soft toothbrush that has only ever cleaned electronics for refurbishing used stuff so i'm taken care of there

[rigid fjord]

i'd still get a paintbrush if i was you

[pulsar root]

I’m having an issue where when I turn on my monitor (after prob hours of turning it off), for 5-10 seconds the pc acts kinda slow and then returns to normal

I suspect this might be due to the dp connection

[kindred halo]

-Sometimes marginal, but it seems like the 5050 dominates ALOT in the 0.1%s

Even if the average is equal

[undone star]

jeez louise, these prices are outrageous lol

[kindred halo]

Though sometimes the difference is 30-40 FPS in favour of it

[ivory mountain]

W dad

[kindred halo]

@cursive agate Okay, I'd recommend against buying everything new, or atleast from this one website

A PC with these specs - what I could manage to make as cheap as possible without skipping out on much (only "non-skip" is the motherboard, which I chose a model that's 50K Pesos more for the extra M.2 port and VRM Heatsink) is 1052 USD, which is a bit too much

Your market is very odd, no 5600s, straight to XT

RAM is also expensive, $162 for 2x8GB

[rapid widget]

I was having some issues with GPU sag, Legos to the rescue

[lethal bay]

guys my pc doesnt run borderlands 4 well can someone recommend an upgrade

[frail sequoia]

This is peak

[cursive agate]

Thats a good price, but yeah i'd have to check the used parket, time to go to scary facebook

[cursive agate]

3d printed sag bracket >>>

[drowsy isle]

What are your specs, also in that game you need to turn on upscaling

[lethal bay]

it's pretty new

[cursive agate]

nice specs

[lethal bay]

how would I show

[drowsy isle]

Not descriptive enough. Use task manager or nvidia app/adrenalin app

[glossy veldt]

chat

[hallow jasper]

lmao Mac are you that bored

[lethal bay]

guilty stfu

[glossy veldt]

im buying 8gb of ddr4 2666 crucial for 15 bucks

yall wish me luck tomoro

[kindred halo]

It's honestly not, 1052 for a B580 DDR4 PC

I went onto Newegg, this was the cheapest usable thing I could find
https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-gaming-desktop-pc-amd-radeon-rx-6600-amd-ryzen-5-5600-16gb-ddr4-1tb-ssd-v17s-b550-r66-lcs-white/p/N82E16883100055

[exotic cape]

Love the battery on this 26 Ultra

[lethal bay]

@drowsy isle do we fw it or nah

[modern walrus]

put the parts in a pcpartpicker list and compare the price

[drowsy isle]

Whats the gpu

Click on the gpu

[tidal geyser]

xd

[tidal geyser]

why are you so poor

[drowsy isle]

Not enough for borderlands 4 sorry

[tidal geyser]

no rtx pro 6000 smh

[lethal bay]

it's really not

DLSS performance + 2x Framegen still doesnt maintain 144fps lmao

game is DOG

[kindred halo]

They're Argentinian, no Argentina in PCPartPicker iirc

[tidal geyser]

i have given up on the Dgpu life

[kindred halo]

Also, has anyone heard of compucase? They're the brand of PSU inside ABS Cyclone prebuilts

[drowsy isle]

Dogshit game by dogshit devs

[lethal bay]

It's sad because Borderlands 1 and 2 are like... top 5 games for me

[tidal geyser]

i still miss it tho

[lethal bay]

3 had ok gameplay but terrible story

[cursive agate]

bro's pc:

[stray portal]

Bober lands

[lethal bay]

did it take you that long to make that

[stray portal]

Is using windows 10 still safe? In a work environment perhaps

[lethal bay]

Businesses and Schools updated to Windows 11 2 years ago lmao

[modern walrus]

a 5060 is fine, dont waste money on dogshit unoptimised games

[lethal bay]

what

[stray portal]

Where im from some businesses still use windows vista and 7

[lethal bay]

oh word

[tidal geyser]

there are still 3 years of support if ye pay

[stray portal]

My city's hospital uses like windows vista

[modern walrus]

oh that's a 5090🗿

[cursive agate]

i mean, add 21% of argentina's taxes, 20% of shipping, 20% of paying the people who's job is to sell that thing after they paid for it to be imported...

[exotic cape]

i love the pretty/new, cpu/gpu combo

[cursive agate]

the best one on the market

[lethal bay]

But yeah my pc cant maintain above 144fps in BL4 while rendering at 1080p with medium settings and frame gen

[kindred halo]

Fair </3

[frail sequoia]

When I was in high school last year they were on windows 10 32 bit so 3gb usable ram (4gb total), i5 3rd gen and a 500mb hdd (most likely a 128gb hdd but a 500mb partition that's usable) and integrated graphics

[lethal bay]

if you needed any reason to not buy that game

[tidal geyser]

iv stopped buying games

[stray portal]

My school used to have windows 8.1 machines, they were VERY slow they couldnt even load the start menu half of the time

[tidal geyser]

steam+epic i got like 600 now then on top of that im playing minecraft again so get access to all dem mods

[lethal bay]

I'd be surprised if either of these configs could do 1080p 60fps

[tidal geyser]

think there are some engine fuckyness

so those should be able to

[queen trout]

What game is this lol

[drowsy isle]

By the words of the devs "why don't you code your own game instead of complaining"

[lethal bay]

We cant blame UE5 anymore theres UE5 games that run good

[lethal bay]

Borderlands 4

[stray portal]

I would be shocked if a 3080 or 6800xt couldnt

[cursive agate]

nvidia's best product

[lethal bay]

cam still cant figure out i was joking

[exotic cape]

lemme pull my specs

[drowsy isle]

Yeah its just bad devs, some of these devs get years and huge budgets to make these games. Yet they still run like shit

[tidal geyser]

UE5 can be way way better than anything before it for performance if you actually try

[exotic cape]

cant be bothered to go to my gaming rig, im laying in bed atm

[tidal geyser]

well eh, if you got enough money and time and knowledge

[tidal geyser]

and this is one of the reasons why i got the laptop i got

[lethal bay]

steam how am I using 112% of cpu

[exotic cape]

let me try to remote into it

[cursive agate]

is there any good components on amazon?

[tidal geyser]

wat

[empty quartz]

Im getting a 5k display for free

:3

5120x2880

[exotic cape]

there we go, the gaming rig

[frail sequoia]

Steam thingy is a bit off like that

[frail sequoia]

May I have some ram pretty please

[lethal bay]

for reference this is my 9850X3D + 5090 rig rendering 1080p with a mix of medium and high settings

[empty quartz]

What gpu’s?

[lethal bay]

game just does not run well and those recommended specs must be for like 720p 30fps

[exotic cape]

have a look at these cursed numbers

[empty quartz]

Wait hold the fuck up

[frail sequoia]

Probs 4090 since it says 26gb vram but 2gb might be for igpu and the 4090 has 24gb iirc

[exotic cape]

7900xtx and 9800x3d

[grizzled frost]

Wait what

[frail sequoia]

Was kinda close

[empty quartz]

Oh yeah, i forgot the 9800x3d had an igpu

[lethal bay]

this is out of combat in an open area btw

[exotic cape]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-explosion-government-13d2jHlSlxklVe

[drowsy isle]

I bought one of those phone controllers and just use my pc remotely

[sleek ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

[grizzled frost]

steam remote play on mobile ftw

[empty quartz]

@exotic cape if my xeon had an igpu, it would have more vram than some peoples phones have storage

[drowsy isle]

I use artemis and apollo the latency is far better than remote play

[frail sequoia]

My phone has a little bit of storage

[drowsy isle]

I should have gotten the 512gb/1tb s26 ultra

[frail sequoia]

I have an s23 ultra

[empty quartz]

You really wasted money on 512gb?

[frail sequoia]

My dad's old contract phone

[exotic cape]

i have 2x 256gb usbc memory sticks for my phone

[frail sequoia]

He got an s26u so I got his s23u

[empty quartz]

Only?

[frail sequoia]

The fuck you mean only

[median warren]

1Tb

the 24gb memory is a flex hto

[empty quartz]

1tb micro sd card

[frail sequoia]

My head hurts now

[exotic cape]

im thinking about getting a nvme enclosure and put a 2tb drive in it to use when i travel

[empty quartz]

What phone?

[exotic cape]

but dat expensiv

[median warren]

Asus rog phone 9 pro

comes with that software installed, its how you oc the phone and control the pixel display

[exotic cape]

that UI screams rog

[median warren]

and other stuff, yep

built in armoury crate app

but this one is actually good

[empty quartz]

24gb of ram for an igpu that makes the macbook neo’s processor seem like a 4090 in comparison

[median warren]

185hz refresh rate screen too

[empty quartz]

Horrible resolution for a phone screen

[median warren]

Gaming phone moment

[empty quartz]

Even my 8 year old music player has a higher resolution

[exotic cape]

to be fair, on a screen that small 1080p is more than enough

[empty quartz]

Meh

[median warren]

1080 x 2400?

[empty quartz]

Thats nothing

[exotic cape]

2448x1080

[median warren]

its enough for me

its really good for gaming, duh

[empty quartz]

My music player has 3120x1440

[exotic cape]

im running the s26 ultra on 1080p

[median warren]

also COOL FEATURE, it has an audio jack

[empty quartz]

I can guarantee without a doubt that my iphone is better for gaming

[exotic cape]

wich one?

[empty quartz]

16 pro max

[median warren]

i prefer this one

[median warren]

does your iphone have an overclocking option and attachable cooler? with 2 usb type c ports one on the side (so you can comfortably hold the phone and charge it)

[empty quartz]

Thats cpu performance

[median warren]

[empty quartz]

Thats an ancient benchmark

[empty quartz]

@median warren run 3dmark steel nomad light

[median warren]

i wonder if you could push it higher because i have the cooler attachment for it, which actually

cools quite well

[median warren]

tell me how, do i just download it?

[exotic cape]

imma check my phone

[fast girder]

Facebook marketplace find, $100 plus a curved monitor and some yeti mics, what do you guys think?

[empty quartz]

I admit defeat

[exotic cape]

XD

[fast girder]

Oh and a GTX 1050TI

[shy arch]

Bro....

[exotic cape]

running it on s24u, s26u and flip7

[kindred halo]

That looks good
Test it before purchase though

[empty quartz]

Show me the scores when you’re done

[formal sonnet]

I think you should verify every part is in working condition before handing over any money.

[drowsy isle]

I ran it although didnt close any background apps

[empty quartz]

Your s24u did horrible

@exotic cape

[outer osprey]

Does anyone know any good budget 1tb ssds? External ssd preferred I’m trying to shop for my new pc

[empty quartz]

Budget and ssd are 2 things that do not exist together at the moment

[outer osprey]

How would a hdd affect performance?

[formal sonnet]

Nope. The machine learning industry has made the words budget and SSD mutually exclusive for the time being.

[empty quartz]

Depends on the game

[formal sonnet]

As a boot drive? You'd have a horrible time. As a mass storage drive? Depends on what you're storing on it and how often you need to access it.

[exotic cape]

https://giphy.com/gifs/work-home-analogy-VIfE4DE7vY49i

[empty quartz]

You selected the wrong gif

[outer osprey]

I would use it for games mostly as I only have 1tb on my pc atm

[exotic cape]

i wanted clarkson yelling speeeed, but i just got that stupid streamer instead

[formal sonnet]

Some games run fine off an HDD. Mostly those that can load their assets into memory when loading a level / map. Small and RTS style games would probably run fine on an HDD.

[outer osprey]

Alright thanks you guys this has been helpful

[exotic cape]

how is the 2nd run higher scores?

okay wtf im confused

[drowsy isle]

Damn pretty big jump after two generations

[outer osprey]

Hey so um how does a 3070 notebook compare to a 5060ti both 8gb

[exotic cape]

i saw someone said s24 is 1700, s25 is 2300 and s26 is 2800

but these are numbers i saw like 2 weeks ago

[rotund mirage]

my shop computer got wet from condensation will wd-40 displace the water

it works for distrubutor caps

[exotic cape]

uhm, im more scared of residue

[rotund mirage]

its a dry lube doesnt leave residue

[exotic cape]

best shot is to just let it air dry for a while

[rotund mirage]

ok

[exotic cape]

use a cloth or something to soak as much of the water as possible then make sure you have active airflow on it

and make sure its 120% dry before turning it on

even smarter could be to dismantle the pc to give the parts a even better chance of fully drying

in active airflow

[tidal geyser]

probs 2x to 2.5x better but 8GB vram is a massive pain

[drowsy isle]

17 pro max is nearly a 1000 behind the s26 ultra but to be expected the gpu in iphones isnt as strong

Ray tracing performance shreds on the 17pm but not many games take advantage of it

[outer osprey]

I’m upgrading systems right now and that’s what I ended up with not my favorite but it fits in the budget

[exotic cape]

im going to run solar bay

[ripe spire]

Hahahahaha fuck off, £6k for one gpu?

In terms of price to performance, ts would not be 6x faster than my 7900xtx, gpu prices are officially more than a decent car

What the fuck so you mean one left in stock, people are actually buying this shit?

[alpine blaze]

It's not 1000 in Steel Nomad, it's like 300

[bitter crater]

stores often fake this message

[exotic cape]

yea... its a aio 5090

[empty quartz]

@exotic cape ill run solar bay once my phone gets to 85% battery

[ripe spire]

For £6k?

[empty quartz]

Seems to perform better when not charging for some reason

[exotic cape]

its a watercooled 5090, yea

[ripe spire]

Literally 20x the value of my first car

[exotic cape]

a regular 5090 is anywhere from 3k-5k

[empty quartz]

@exotic cape the 6k score was while chargingp

[exotic cape]

£3,022.45

[empty quartz]

@exotic cape sorry for pinging you one more time, but could you try running solar bay extreme?

[exotic cape]

yee

not a good start at 7fps

[ripe spire]

Who even buys a 5090 at these prices, millionaires? 💀

[exotic cape]

lots of people @bitter delta

[empty quartz]

Oh dear

[empty quartz]

Weird

[exotic cape]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-dafuq-what-the-shocked-gif-16230812

[empty quartz]

S948b is the s26u, right?

[exotic cape]

yea

[empty quartz]

Strange

[exotic cape]

could i just be that apple is king of RT?

i could put it in the fridge and see if it helps xD

i just gave it 4 more gigs of ram

[upper agate]

I am in the process of building a dedicated jellyfin / Cloud server. I am wanting to use a spare case specifically its a Mustex atx case the problem is the case only has mounts for 2 3.5 HDDS and I have 6 I am planning on using with it. Is there some sort of internal cage i could buy? The only ones i seen on amazon were cage adapters for 5.25 inch bays and this pc case does not have any. Would much rather not have to buy a new case or a NAS/DAS since I have all the parts to build it

[exotic cape]

Gave it 4GB more of ram.

Starting to get kinda hot

[fast girder]

Well that sucks, the motherboard LED is on but the computer won't turn on

Any guesses?

[formal sonnet]

The manufacturer may have internal drive cages you could buy, otherwise you'd be best getting a case designed to accommodate the number of drives you have. (Or jank-mounting drives with zipties or something.)

[exotic cape]

hot glue drives on top of eachother

[upper agate]

yeah i dont mind doing that but was hoping there was a cage or something i could just mount on the mounts for the fans on the bottom of the case

[exotic cape]

hmm, is apple really that far ahead on raytracing compared to snapdragon?

[quasi moat]

28gb vram difference

[alpine blaze]

I guess so. In that test at least

[exotic cape]

running it again after letting it cool a bit

Slightly better

[alpine blaze]

Beat the 16pm that time

[exotic cape]

yea

[exotic cape]

do the steel nomad light

[alpine blaze]

2427

[exotic cape]

or regular solar bay

[exotic cape]

26u gave 2800

[alpine blaze]

Yeah raster is better

[alpine blaze]

But run it 10 times in a row and you’ll probably be at 2200

Or even twice lol

[kindred halo]

Would it be fine to use a 65w adapter on a device that primarily accepts 45w

[errant rapids]

Tore apart my PC, drained and refilled the loop, repasted the GPU block , and built it all back into a new case. All using the LTT Precision Screwdriver set.

[exotic cape]

im using a 100w brick on the s26u that takes 60w, its yet to explode

[kindred halo]

Aye aye

Then I guess this 20v/3.25a adapter I found for me T470s should work properly

[proper gull]

A device will only draw as much current as it needs

[kindred halo]

I'd buy a USB-C adapter instead but I'd like to keep the C port free

[kindred halo]

I assumed that, but it's kinda still best to ask

[errant rapids]

Depends on the device and the power delivery. If both are dumb about power delivery you can fry something

[exotic cape]

stress test is a 20x loop

[alpine blaze]

Wonder what the s26 ultra would be at the end

[exotic cape]

6/20 now

its getting toasty

[alpine blaze]

I’ll run it when I get home later. I only have 50% battery atm lol

[proper gull]

What in the fuck is this setup

You know they make impact drivers, right?

[exotic cape]

atleast its a propper bit holder you are using

[proper gull]

https://tenor.com/view/sxv-wtf-gif-23560064

[exotic cape]

also is that an offbrand Milwaukee?

oh my condolenses

Hilti, Makita and Milwaukee is my go toos.

just too bad the hilti is so damn expensive

[glacial cliff]

anyone wanna help me find a good new primary monitor? wanna get an ultrawide (21:9 or 32:9 either is fine), 34" or bigger, not oled, 1440p or better. will be used for gaming, watching movies, and some productivity things like school work and excel and reading books etc.

[formal sonnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI889qvShvk

[alpine blaze]

Dang. That’s pretty significant

[plain cypress]

https://aoc.com/il/gaming/monitors/ag344uxm#productSpecifications
Sounds like this is what you want