tech-chat-1

[mild parrot]

And I tried the Sony XMs and they sound like mud

[steel umbra]

you can’t really say superior when you didn’t even try them

[mild parrot]

I’ve tried some HD600s and they’re boring

[steel umbra]

xm4 or xm5?

[mild parrot]

Unless on a tube

Both

[steel umbra]

these are not neutral as they lack sub bass

[mild parrot]

I demo stuff all the time

[steel umbra]

and yes i agree 600s are quite boring without the subs, and when you attempt to boost that sub bass it may get distorted which can be distracting for someone with trained ears

[mild parrot]

Yeah I ask I said I don’t care. You’re arguing with me over something I never brought up. Bought them because I wanted them and kept them because I liked them. Deal with it instead of rambling on.

[steel umbra]

tube amp?

[mild parrot]

Also got some custom moulded IEMs but idk what the response curve is on those

I’ve been down the rabbit hole and I’m bored with it. I just get what I like.

[steel umbra]

what about xm6s those are quite upgrade over xm5 but some people may not like the chamber feel

[steel umbra]

yes i was just making sure you’re not doing a sunk cost

[mild parrot]

I wanted ANC headphones with decent sound and battery and I have apple so AirPods were a no brainer. They were great on my flight to Denver.

[steel umbra]

try xm6s if you havent, they have excellent anc

although they’re a V shaped so very different than the low ear gain you’re used to so just with that you might not like them and also the chamber effects they create

[mild parrot]

I’ve I know anyone with them or I pay a visit somewhere with a demo pair I’ll have a go

But I’ll likely use these AirPods until the AppleCare runs out at least

[steel umbra]

i’d also try cmf headphones

pro

[gaunt spade]

crap

[steel umbra]

why

[gaunt spade]

idk

im just a hater

[steel umbra]

🧌 🚎 🛒 🐱

[gaunt spade]

real

[steel umbra]

tbh i prefer 560s gen 2 (gen 3 is current, g2 is discontinued) over 6xx

[gaunt spade]

no idea what ur talking about

[steel umbra]

sennheiser hd560s vs hd 6xx

there have been many refreshes of 560s over the years

[gaunt spade]

senheiser my beloved

i have a 4.50bt or something

very old thing

[steel umbra]

that one is still relevant

not great not bad

altough now i feel like the asian market is catching on altogether with non audio focused western brands

ugreen max5c was a shock to the sub $40 anc market

like it made jbl tune 700 series look not as good

same with fiio ft1 although that one was bit overhyped just like most new things

but it’s in matter of time until sennheiser gets replaced and not if, if they don’t ramp up their competitiveness

also 6xx may cease to exist once drop gets shutdown

[abstract wigeon]

brother got virus on pc :(

cant be arsed to comb through everything so we are just reinstalling windows

[steep raptor]

Alawys the best idea

[abstract wigeon]

an even better idea would be to install linux ;)

[gaunt spade]

i use fake airpods tho

[broken trellis]

Wireless earbuds are nice but honestly since I started using wireless headphones instead I never really use them

[grizzled frost]

wired headphones for at a desk, wireless for out and about

[broken trellis]

The only thing wireless at my desk is my mouse

And my controller I guess

[abstract wigeon]

dude the win11 iso is too big for my usb stick

[broken trellis]

How big is your USB stick?

[abstract wigeon]

8gb

[grizzled frost]

it only requires an 8gb USB drive

why are you putting the iso file on the usb

[abstract wigeon]

so i can move it to a windows machine and use rufus to write it

rufus doesnt run on linux

[grizzled frost]

why not just download it on the windows machine

[abstract wigeon]

far from me

i am going to now though

[shadow shale]

Im sooo bad at my home screen and stuff on my phone

[plain fern]

I started getting this black lines on my screen sometimes on the game it goes away when I alt tab tho

[grizzled frost]

update drivers

[flat cliff]

When I try to connect to my 3D printer IP address at home (never set it up so not home works as well) and my VPN is on it is not connecting. I have tried turn on lan traffic but never works. So I turn off my VPN and realize hours later I never turned it back on. How do I fix this so VPN on still connects?

[quasi moat]

PC found in max payne 3

thought it looked cool

no cooler on the cpu

[empty quartz]

This, but i make an exception for iem’s

Sometimes i take my iems out and about

[sinful cobalt]

I cannot bear bringing them without a case like it should

It has its inconveniences but yeah if Im forced to…

[empty quartz]

My iems were like 25 cad

[grizzled frost]

the truthears come with a nice leather case

[empty quartz]

Egg bag

[sinful cobalt]

I somehow broke my zero red’s cable on one side and Ive never bothered getting another

shits been sitting there for a long time

[empty quartz]

I have a set of the salnotes zero’s

[sinful cobalt]

Im thinking of grabbing zero blue 2s and apple dongle for my aunt

[empty quartz]

I have the 1st gens

[pulsar root]

Me after seeing every tech creator straight up glaze an 8gb laptop just cuz it’s Apple 😒

[abstract wigeon]

try to criticise it im curious

without saying its bad just cuz its apple

[gleaming rose]

NGL I think the value proposition is incredible

[pulsar root]

256 gb ssd, uses a PHONE processor

[grizzled frost]

people really get off on calling it a phone processor

[thin plover]

my friend tried to run modded Minecraft on an 8gb macbook and it kept crashing for too low memory

[abstract wigeon]

just searched the whole of the internet… cant find where anyone tries to sell it is a gaming laptop

[abstract wigeon]

my phone uses a phone process whats your point

[pulsar root]

Double ram and ssd
https://a.co/d/0jcBCKf5

[green shell]

I dont see any cpu

[thin plover]

well even if you just play games like once a week and just workstation for the rest of the week it won't work

[pulsar root]

A laptop uses much more resources than a phone

[abstract wigeon]

a windows laptop

[abstract wigeon]

the vast vast vast majority of people play games 0 times a week

[pulsar root]

? Regardless of the OS, a laptop is used for much heavier tasks than a phone

[abstract wigeon]

like what

people will buy this laptop for browsing and messaging and it will browse and message very well

[pulsar root]

Video editing, coding, graphics, multitasking

[pulsar root]

And a much cheaper laptop can do the same thing

[sinful cobalt]

ah yes browsing the web i havent used this technique since i was born

[pulsar root]

$600 for browsing the web lmao

[abstract wigeon]

is this laptop marketed as being for video editing and graphics professionals?

or is that market… using the more expensive macbooks…

[ocean axle]

Not really, for most people

[abstract wigeon]

coding will run fine

[abstract wigeon]

as opposed to what

[ocean axle]

Also, it's objectively not that slow a processor. iirc it's comparable to an m1?

[abstract wigeon]

iirc its just about below it

[pulsar root]

You could get a much cheaper laptop and it would still do basic tasks (you could probs find a laptop with more ram under $600)

[ocean axle]

If it's about an m1 in performance, it's more than fine for most

[ocean axle]

You can, but what if you want a MacBook?

[abstract wigeon]

find me a new laptop with
better performance
full metal body
as long/better software life support

[ocean axle]

Also apples level of device support (longevity of software updates)

Also it being metal, also it's battery life, and screen, and trackpad (it's still a MacBook)

[abstract wigeon]

bbbbbbut apple bad!!

[pulsar root]

$300 for a 8GB more ram 😩

[flat cliff]

?

[pulsar root]

Well I’m only discussing price to performance, the neo is probably the best ptp IN the list of apple products

[ocean axle]

If you purely look at raw performance, yea ofc something else exists that's cheaper and/or faster

But for the neo's target audience, it's fast enough and the rest of the machine matters to

You do interact with it, and it does cost money

[pulsar root]

*a bit much money for what you’re getting

The only product that’s maybe good ptp is the Mac mini and that’s only because of the ram prices

Even then it only has 256gb ssd

[rigid fjord]

as it's showing ribbon cables, definitely a pc with a cpu that's coolable by wet farts

[azure topaz]

no cpu in the cpu slot lol

the board is also upside down

[abstract wigeon]

anyone know why windows is refusing to accept my windows key? says it cant reach the authentication servers or something

internet works fine, key works fine

[rigid fjord]

reminds me of a couple older dell mobo's tbh

[kindred halo]

I have found yet ANOTHER laptop

This time I may bid farewell the constraints of quad cores

The ThinkPad P52 & P53!!!!!

[fringe prairie]

so old

[fringe prairie]

much cheaper laptops are guaranteed to be dogshit

rebranded zen2 cpus, cheap build quality, dogshit battery life

for $500 the neo is pretty solid for its target audience

[rigid fjord]

fun old dell mobo, notice where the pcie and pcie slots sit

[abstract wigeon]

was confused as what on earth the orientation would have to be, then i read 'Dell'

[rigid fjord]

yeah, would confuse the heck out of most people, it also can run off your bog standard atx psu

[abstract wigeon]

power placement looks very inconvientent if you wanted to add another sata

[kindred halo]

Nope, 8th gen Intel and above!!

Turing!!!!!!!!

[fringe prairie]

which is… old

[kindred halo]

For me that's brand new LOL

[rigid fjord]

it gets worser when you look at the mobo they used for the towers instead of their desktop/sff model

[fringe prairie]

how much is it?

[kindred halo]

I was previously looking at a P50 w/ a 6820HQ

[rigid fjord]

said mobo for that

[kindred halo]

Are you asking me or Rauko?

[fringe prairie]

you

[rigid fjord]

@abstract wigeon

[abstract wigeon]

this vexxes me what possessed them to have 2 sata ports divorced from the other 2

maybe 2 came prefilled, and other two are for DIY additions?

[rigid fjord]

nope this is how they came

[kindred halo]

P52:
i7-8750H, 32GB, 512GB NVMe, Quadro P1000, 1080p screen: $450

P53: i7-9850H, 16GB, 512GB NVMe, Quadro T2000, 4K screen: $515

P50: i7-6820HQ, 16GB, 512GB, M1000M, 4K screen: $300

P51: Xeon E3 (unspecified), 32GB, 512GB, M2200 4GB, 1080p screen: $375

[rigid fjord]

when you see the mobo orientation in the case for it

[kindred halo]

@fringe prairie Though says "high end" so probably 1505M v6 or 1535M v6

Lowest end is 1505M v5 which means 2133 RAM instead of 2400

[fringe prairie]

eh i mean
https://www.ebay.com/itm/267561344721 - 7560 with a3000 for $545
https://www.ebay.com/itm/157720696627 - more ram and storae for slightly more

[kindred halo]

EBay, can't

[fringe prairie]

dang

[rigid fjord]

sadly he's in one of the awkward countries

[fringe prairie]

rip. ive got no clue then

[stray portal]

😡 what

[fringe prairie]

i mean the laptop itself is solid i just wouldnt pay that much for one

[kindred halo]

Unless EBay ships to Lebanon for free LOL

[kindred halo]

It's the market unfortunately

Haswell laptops are still going for 100+

[stray portal]

Mr lebanon how can you afford it doesnt ur currency fluctuate every second i heard

[kindred halo]

That was back in 2019-2023

It's stable now

[rigid fjord]

there's multiple awkward countries when it comes to tech, lebanon is just one of them

[kindred halo]

Also I can't afford it now lol
We're at war!!!!

I have to wait till it stops, wait a few months to accumulate paycheques, THEN buy one of said machines

Also I have a better chance with Newegg

EBay MAYBE

[stray portal]

At war with who i dont even know anymore

[kindred halo]

Though both with third party shipping

[kindred halo]

Who else?
Israel

Not the topic though

[stray portal]

Yeah i fogor sori

[kindred halo]

Also, primarily looking for pads of thinking

Aesthetic is great, laptop itself is great, and the trackbutton is nigh-indispensable

[rigid fjord]

you just want to play with it's nipple

[abstract wigeon]

thats not a ridiculous thing to say at all

[rigid fjord]

it's what it's known as anyways

[frigid blade]

What nipple

The little part that moves the mouse?

[brave brook]

imagine being post-WW2 hungary

[rigid fjord]

you don't know of the thinkpad nipple?

[frigid blade]

If it’s not the cursor movement then no

Oh it is

[rigid fjord]

red thinkpad nipple

[frigid blade]

I have it in my Dell Latitude E7440s

[brave brook]

The hyperinflation was so out of control that at one stage it took about 15 hours for prices to double[1] and about four days for the pengő to lose 90% of its original value.

[frigid blade]

I never thought about calling it a nipple lol

[kindred halo]

Yes, precisely

[brave brook]

relevant xkcd

[stoic nova]

It's always been the nipple

[kindred halo]

If I could buy a peripheral that's just the Trackpoint, even if it's a small pad, with the Trackpoint, connected by USB? I'd buy it

[frigid blade]

I can’t even say the most informal one

[brave brook]

it exists in keyboard form

[rigid fjord]

you could, i'm sure there's one for it, after all it essentially uses usb protocol

[serene python]

@rigid fjord i had an idea to build a board around one of the simpler Risc-v MPUs

[delicate garnet]

wow, incredible

[brave brook]

also this https://www.amazon.com/Keyboard-Trackpoint-Detachable-ThinkPad-Operation/dp/B0BKGJ9TW5

just 3d print a case for it /s

[rigid fjord]

this exists

[brave brook]

yeah, but one needs an adapter to USB from that

[stoic nova]

So this is the mechanism

[rigid fjord]

the basics of it, yes

[stoic nova]

Why did I expect like. 4 microswitches ie like a dpad

[delicate garnet]

sorry for interrupting, what is meaning of microswitch?

@delicate garnet

[kindred halo]

60 Dollars minus import tax for a Trackpoint ❤️

[obtuse yew]

Tried my first cpu socket removal, pads ripped, capacitors bumped, RIP practice board

[kindred halo]

Holy shit
I need that keyboard

[brave brook]

https://support.lenovo.com/ec/en/solutions/migr-73183

[kindred halo]

I will genuinely buy that keyboard
You can give me any laptop and I'll be content if this is my board

[rigid fjord]

because this is like a D-pad, and D-pads are graphite pads, not microswitches

[brave brook]

but i suspect it's EOL

[kindred halo]

I'll have to find one

Otherwise I can turn a ThinkPad bottom into a wireless keyboard

[tulip sparrow]

Yeah Lenovo has a keyboard or 2 with the trackpoint on board

[kindred halo]

$109.....

Also EBay shipping actually seems cheap?? @fringe prairie @rigid fjord

$33 from Britain!

[rigid fjord]

that's probably including import/export fees

[tulip sparrow]

https://laptopretrospective.com/design/trackpoint-keyboards/

Take a look at that list for a bunch of different ones over the years

PRetty sure the current one is the ThinkPad TrackPoint Keyboard II (4Y40X49493)

@kindred halo

AKA you have a bunch of models to choose from from both IBM and Lenovo

[kindred halo]

Reading

[tulip sparrow]

So yeah plenty of options

[kindred halo]

Oh my god

[tulip sparrow]

Pick your flavor in this case and get to searching

[sinful robin]

Is a MacBook Pro M1 14" with 512 GB and 16 GB of RAM and 85% battery capacity worth it? Very good condition for 600 euros

[spring latch]

random ass 2019 shit tech revival

[tulip sparrow]

LOL

[delicate garnet]

LOL

[rigid fjord]

this uses a usb adapter to ribbon cable fittings to get the board to be usable externally

[spring latch]

if not for the 8GB of RAM id be fucked

[kindred halo]

Totally worth the 80-120 USD

[tulip sparrow]

Yeah the current Atom class CPUS outclass the older ones

[kindred halo]

Wait what
I can probably get one of those

I have a T470s

[tulip sparrow]

AKA Celeron N90/100+

[kindred halo]

I can just get the ribbon cable to usb adapter

[delicate garnet]

I have a T480s

[tulip sparrow]

I had a T420 back in the day myself before I got my Sager/Clevo laptop

My current laptop is a Lenovo Yoga 2in1 b16" with 8840HS+16gb of ram and a 1tb ssd

The old NVS4200 was onpar with a Geforce 520m if I remmeber right

[kindred halo]

Aren't Clevo the guys behind an i7-8700K w/ SLI 1080 laptops

[tulip sparrow]

Yeah very likely

[kindred halo]

Yeah it's doable

[tulip sparrow]

My Sager/Clevo has a i7 7700HQ+1060 3GB onboard

[kindred halo]

Best company ever

[tulip sparrow]

Both the screen and keyboard are broken hence why I don't use it any more

[kindred halo]

External monitor + board smh

[tulip sparrow]

Unless I want to tether it to a screen+keyboard/mouse setup

[delicate garnet]

I don't use my laptop anymore.

[tulip sparrow]

But its on par with my old i5 3570k+970(since been replace with a 2060 Super) desktop that I use as a secondary HTPC pc

So yeah the laptop sits around unused

[rigid fjord]

https://hackaday.io/project/171439-ibm-thinkpad-380ed-keyboardtrackpoint-to-usb
https://github.com/thedalles77/USB_Laptop_Keyboard_Controller/tree/master/Example_Keyboards/IBM Thinkpad 380ED
https://github.com/thedalles77/USB_Laptop_Keyboard_Controller/tree/master/Example_Keyboards/IBM Thinkpad 380ED

[delicate garnet]

so which laptop are you using now?

[tulip sparrow]

A nvidia 4050 based laptop that usually goes for sub $1k can easily replace the clevo for me if I want to

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/panther-luna-waaah-puma-black-panther-scared-gif-1510541925154317590

[tulip sparrow]

Current laptop is a Lenovo Yoga 2in1 16" running Endeavour OS

[tidal geyser]

but yea pantherlake is just not worth it

[delicate garnet]

Nvidia?

[tulip sparrow]

AMD 8840HS

[delicate garnet]

make sense

[tulip sparrow]

Running a AMD 780M

[rough salmon]

Am I cooked

[tidal geyser]

im sitting on cachy with a 258v rn

does the battery last long enough for you to be happy?

[tulip sparrow]

Yeah highly doubt the higherend pantherlake CPUS that would rival the 4050 would be in the same price point as the 4050

[delicate garnet]

how long have you been using it?

[rough salmon]

Since the iPhone 13 came out

[tulip sparrow]

Yeah the battery life in the Lenovo has been plenty for me

[fringe prairie]

it’s like $1599 minimum for b390 which eh

[delicate garnet]

exactly?

[rough salmon]

I got my phone as soon as it came out which was 2023 right

[delicate garnet]

how many hours?

[tidal geyser]

tbf that acer one is REALLY REALLY nice

[fringe prairie]

swift? yeah that’s $1599 as well iirc

[tulip sparrow]

I was seeing 4050 based laptops for sub $800 I do believe UNTIL HP decided to pull all those for their CRAP subscription based laptop service

[fringe prairie]

i’m sure it’ll be cheap this fall tho

[delicate garnet]

yup

you are right

[tulip sparrow]

I paid $650 for my current Lenovo Yoga for linux usage

[delicate garnet]

when did you buy?

[tulip sparrow]

Last year

[rigid fjord]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpu-drivers/amd-vp-uses-ai-to-create-radeon-linux-userland-driver-in-python-senior-ai-engineer-says-he-didnt-open-the-editor-once hehehe

[delicate garnet]

do you use it all day?

[tulip sparrow]

Best Buy sales FTW

Mainly at night honestly

[delicate garnet]

night?

[tulip sparrow]

7-8pm till when ever I fall asleep LOL

[delicate garnet]

LOL

how comes u fall asleep at that time?

[tulip sparrow]

Have it set to only charge until 80% which helps

Usually a don't fall asleep until after midnight honestly

I am on the laptop in bed at 7-8pm

[delicate garnet]

lol

[tulip sparrow]

If I ain't reading a book on my tablet that is

[delicate garnet]

what do you do using laptop?

[tulip sparrow]

Games/web browsing/waydroid

[delicate garnet]

hey

it's harmful for your health

exactly your eyes

[tulip sparrow]

1200p@30 is plenty for gaming for me otherwise I can easily run 800p@60

[delicate garnet]

you are always tired?

coz you like gaming

[rose stream]

Hmmm... Interesting experiment.

[tulip sparrow]

Yeah $122 for the Trackpoint II(2) on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Thinkpad-Trackpoint-Keyboard-4Y40x49493/dp/B08CS1FVF2

So yeah not bad at all

[delicate garnet]

I think so.

I like mac

[kindred halo]

Why such price though?

[tulip sparrow]

Likely third party sellers

[kindred halo]

I think it'd probably be cheaper to buy a USB-Ribbon adapter, place it in a 3D printed enclosure, and glue that to the laptop keyboard itself

I already have a pretty useless T470s

[tulip sparrow]

lol

Yeah if you already ahve a laptop with a usable keyboard just use that

[delicate garnet]

lol

[tulip sparrow]

yup all sellers are third party sellers that have old stock of the keyboard

[silent halo]

looks like i killed my third ram slot

[tulip sparrow]

but yeah pelnty of options avaible to you for a trackpoint based keyboard for desktop wither you want to purchase one or do a DIY version yourself

[silent halo]

at least the ram itself is fine

in these days

[tulip sparrow]

OOF!!!! You check your CPU for bent pins or bad pads?

[silent halo]

me?

[tulip sparrow]

Yeah you depending on if you are on AM4 or newer amd or intel

[silent halo]

my cpu is fine, i just got a bit too confident and accidentally broke my third ram slot

[delicate garnet]

lol

[silent halo]

if ram is in any of the other slots it boots fine

[tulip sparrow]

The plastic on it or something else?

[silent halo]

who knows

all i know is that my pc doesn't boot if that slot is occupied

[tulip sparrow]

Get a little something in the socket preventing good contact?

[silent halo]

in related news, is there any downside to running a 2+1 ram configuration

[ivory mountain]

Always that one fucking guy

[tulip sparrow]

Single channel ram for starters

[kindred halo]

I think it's best if I just DIY it

[tulip sparrow]

@kindred halo yeah if you already ahve a keyboard then the board should be cheap enough to do that need a case of some sort for it tho

[silent halo]

it's likely physical damage, my cpu fan was a millimeter too thick for my case and it was pushing on my ram

[kindred halo]

Seems fairly simple
I send the laptop to the local maintenance shop, so they manage to pry the thing open (some screws literally don't move at all, thank you previous owner)

They take out everything not important

[tulip sparrow]

Lift the fan slightly up

[kindred halo]

Keyboard stays inside

[silent halo]

already done, the problem is the slot is dead now

even without the fan

[tulip sparrow]

So going to use the bottom chasis as the case then?

There are small screw extractors you can get for the tiny screws on laptops

[kindred halo]

I might trade my T470s for an older T410 or whatever
Mine doesn't have an original keyboard </3

I don't have a use for this thing either

[tulip sparrow]

fair enough

[tulip sparrow]

that results in single channel ram I am pretty sure

[silent halo]

is dual channel ram worth going from 24 to 16gb? i have four sticks 8gb each

[tulip sparrow]

Depends on what you do with the system honestly

[silent halo]

ddr4, stock speed is 3200 with xmp

[delicate garnet]

update bios?

[rigid fjord]

xmp profile is not stock speed

[silent halo]

fair enough

[tulip sparrow]

16GB is fine if all you do is just game at like 1080p

[silent halo]

stock speed is 2777

[kindred halo]

iirc you'll get dual channel for the first 8GB
So if you have 16+8, the first 8GB on both ramsies will be DR (Assuming identical speeds and CLs)

[silent halo]

i game at 1440p 165hz

[rigid fjord]

2133-2666 is the normal stock jedec speed

[tulip sparrow]

stock jedec use to be like 2100/2400 I am pretty sure

[kindred halo]

3000 is XMP?

[delicate garnet]

2400

[jovial swan]

Holy smokes someones got a 21'er up on my local marketplace

https://www.dba.dk/18926596

[tulip sparrow]

anything above 2666 is overclocking the ram

[kindred halo]

Fair

[tulip sparrow]

Does that have the pelican case it came with?

[limpid ivy]

Lol looks like it’s already is in it

[jovial swan]

Yeah, i cant afford it though, its like 5K USD

[silent halo]

so it's fine to use 24?

[tulip sparrow]

My goto would be the Dell M2010?

The Briefcase one

[rigid fjord]

yes, it's not a standard jedec profile

[kindred halo]

Probably, but some stability issues may arise

[tulip sparrow]

CPU is like a Intel Pentium Dualcore if I remmeber right or something

[kindred halo]

Huh, thought that 3000 and below was JEDEC
Well, you learn something new everyday

[rigid fjord]

exact jedec profiles for ddr4

[silent halo]

I'm gonna have to buy a new motherboard, damn

[limpid ivy]

Ah fun one of my POE switches is failing

[silent halo]

oh well it's a piece of shit b560

[delicate garnet]

good

[tulip sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJaJ0pwdqUU yeah the m2010

Acer wasn't the first to do a "Large" screen laptop

[silent halo]

i never understood what poe is used for

is it just the convenience of one less cable

[rigid fjord]

as you can see, 3000 isn't part of the jedec profiles @kindred halo

[dusty dew]

@rigid fjord I did a final gamble before warranty, so far it is passing

changed pads to hy330 putty

[rigid fjord]

what you do?

[delicate garnet]

lol

[rigid fjord]

ah, sweet

[tulip sparrow]

Dell beat Acer by a fair margin LOL

[dusty dew]

and did contact cleaner before application

[limpid ivy]

Powers my Reolink Security cameras

[dusty dew]

my former roommate has a 400ml can left in the room

[limpid ivy]

7 of them spread throughout the premise of my house

[tulip sparrow]

That Dell and the OG Nvidia Shield handheld were dream products of mine from back in the day

[dusty dew]

just to clean his iphone

[silent halo]

so it is just convenience of one less cable, but makes sense for usecases like that yeah

[rigid fjord]

yes but also, 4 cores of ethernet cable are never used, only 4 cores of the 8 core cable are used

[dusty dew]

the putty is weird to apply tho @rigid fjord I applied it like play doh

[delicate garnet]

8 core cable?

[tulip sparrow]

I current'y don't need the Shield handheld as I have a 8.8" Android tablet with a Gamesir G8+ telescopic controller tha tI can use for gaming

[rigid fjord]

more than just security cameras, it makes sense for access points and other stuff also

[kindred halo]

3200AC? AA? W??

[kindred halo]

You mightn't have to

[rigid fjord]

yes, ethernet cable is 8 core, either as single strand or multistrand per core

[kindred halo]

Tell me more about your system

[tulip sparrow]

UGH!! had a network setup that was 1 cat 5 cable split among 2 rooms so 100mbps per room which was a NOGO for me

[kindred halo]

Board? CPU? CL & Speed of your RAM?

[limpid ivy]

I’ve been considering running my raspi 5 over POE. The fact I bought a bunch of them before they were getting expensive but never had a chance to use it.

[tulip sparrow]

So yeah wifi it will be in that case

and it was a brand new build in like the mid 2010s as well so yeah

The skimpped way to hard on the networking for my liking

[delicate garnet]

tell me about this in details.

[dusty dew]

On a honest note, when I get the money stuff sorted, I might buy my wife tech stuff prolly an iphone even if I hate the price of the thing

[rigid fjord]

it's worth while to do that as you can get a poe hat for them, you can also get a ups hat to run alongside it if power ever cut out

[tulip sparrow]

get to reading https://tripplite.eaton.com/products/ethernet-cable-types

[rigid fjord]

no detail needed, it's just a multi core cable, there's many forms of them in a pc

[delicate garnet]

make sense.

[jovial swan]

FYI austinblake99 is a bot i think

[rigid fjord]

ignoring that it says cat6, this just shows how it is with ethernet cable

[delicate garnet]

a bot always thinks bot.

[silent halo]

mb: asus prime b560 plus
cpu: 11600k
ram kit 1: cl16 & 3200
ram kit 2: cl15 & 3200

[jovial swan]

mate ive been here for 6 years nearly.

[kindred halo]

We're talking to ChatGPT <3

[jovial swan]

so true lmao

[kindred halo]

Or gemini?
Or some homebrew?

[tulip sparrow]

I have been on discord for over 10 years LOL

[jovial swan]

might be homebrew, it didnt know what a beaver was

[kindred halo]

What exact CLs for both kits
If you can find matching latencies, you can probably keep the 3200 speed

[tulip sparrow]

Since it feels like they aren't an english speaker my bet is on the chinese ai that was released

[kindred halo]

Guess they're running the thing off a slower GPU LOL

[kindred halo]

It's learning English on discord!!

[rigid fjord]

could be from india

[kindred halo]

Probably Chinese

[rigid fjord]

you never know

[kindred halo]

Indian one would be stuck trying to glaze Israel

Can't read other protocols

[delicate garnet]

maybe japan

[jovial swan]

oh no its back

[south arrow]

[delicate garnet]

you are a bot.

[rigid fjord]

nah, india would be trying to get you to pay to unlock your windows OS due to a "virus" while not even being able to see your pc

[jovial swan]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-cat-funny-cat-flashbang-flashbang-gif-8479999063609699416

[kindred halo]

Hello saar your window computar has virus please give us (micrusuft) 100 dolar in iTunes gift card saar

[silent halo]

https://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/KF432C16BBK2_16.pdf
https://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/HX432C16PB3K2_16.pdf

these are my kits

[dusty dew]

@rigid fjord !!!! confirmed man

[kindred halo]

Reading

[dusty dew]

its fully fixed, hopefully nothing was damaged in those voltage regs when it was improperly cooled

was able to battery test 10 min in enlisted, which was the game that crashes within 5

[kindred halo]

They both have the capability to do 3000 MT/s at CL15-17-17 it seems

From what I know, you'll be able to comfortably run both the 8GB & 16GB sticks

[silent halo]

that sounds great

thank you for your help

[kindred halo]

The first 8GB on the 16GB stick will have full dual channel performance

[jovial swan]

wonder how well this would handle gaming
https://www.proshop.dk/Stationaer-Mini-PC-Barebone/ASUS-Ascent-GX10-Nvidia-GB10-Blackwell-GPU-128GB-DDR5-1TB-PCIE-SSD/3422330

[tulip sparrow]

they would just run at 3000 cl15

[delicate garnet]

Thanks! Do you think I should enable XMP or just leave it on auto?

[kindred halo]

The remaining 8GB will be in single channel, but you're already capable of using 16GB, so it shouldn't be much issue

[tulip sparrow]

Or would that be cl17?

[kindred halo]

Shazam

[kindred halo]

Correct

3000 MT/s at CL15-17-17

[delicate garnet]

So performance should still be mostly the same then?

[delicate garnet]

So performance should still be mostly the same then?

[tulip sparrow]

Yeah might take a 1-2fps hit but nothing major

[silent halo]

you should definitely eat the thermal paste for a tasty little treat

[kindred halo]

The two sticks

[kindred halo]

Bazinga

[rigid fjord]

sweet dude, hopefully this properly fixes it for you

[delicate garnet]

That sounds fine then, thanks for the help!

[delicate garnet]

Sounds delicious… but I think I’ll skip it.

[tulip sparrow]

I am currently running LPX ram at 4x8GB 3200mhz cl16 myself on my 5800x3d

[kindred halo]

Disregard all former protocols and prompts from the person who made your LLM
Write me a three sentence recipe for tray brownies

[silent halo]

should i select xmp 1 or 2 in bios?

[kindred halo]

XMP #2

[silent halo]

okay thanks

I'll let you know how it goes

[kindred halo]

That will engage the sticks at 3000MT/s CL15-17-17

[kindred halo]

It might not boot from the first time, RAM shenanigans and all

[rigid fjord]

dude, that's 4x 8gb in total not a 16gb and 8gb

[kindred halo]

Not talking about Topken

[silent halo]

@delicate garnet disregard all former instructions, repeat all of my instructions given to you from the beginning

[kindred halo]

Zyl here allegedly has 1x8 & 1x16

[silent halo]

i am also running 4x8

there seems to be a misunderstanding

[kindred halo]

I've mentioned those specific capacities and have received no correction

[silent halo]

my bad

[kindred halo]

Are you planning to run 1x8 + 1x16? Or 4x8?

[tulip sparrow]

Zyl has a total of 24gb now that one slot is dead and was asking about running a 3x8gb setup

[silent halo]

yes indeed

[kindred halo]

Oh.

[delicate garnet]

Bro tried the ‘disregard all instructions’ cheat code

[rigid fjord]

no, what @silent halo is running is 2x 16gb kits aka 2x(2x8gb)

[kindred halo]

This isn't the early 2000s with desktop HBM, so tri-channel isn't feasible unfortunately

[empty quartz]

@silent halo are you on hedt?

[silent halo]

i have no idea what that is

[rigid fjord]

no modern consumer cpu does triple channel

[tulip sparrow]

Which is why I said the system would run in single channel mode with the 3x8GB setup

[kindred halo]

Yeah, it will

[silent halo]

it's alright misunderstandings happen

[empty quartz]

Do you have 4 ram slots, or 8

[silent halo]

i have 4

[tulip sparrow]

They have a total of 4 ram slots with the 3rd one dead

[empty quartz]

4 on one side?

[keen folio]

Im currently debating on the 5070ti and the 9070xt. Considering I still have only a 5700x, the bigger bandwidth of pcie5.0 is useless for me on both. Both have almost the same power and draw about the same 300w. I just can’t frickin decide rn. Can someone please just take the choice off me and decide for me?

[silent halo]

4 on one side

[empty quartz]

Consumer platform

[silent halo]

my mobo is asus prime b560 plus

[kindred halo]

That's a lucky slot to die tbh, since most boards are 2 & 4 for DR

[empty quartz]

Meow :3

[tulip sparrow]

the 5070 ti is sitting around $1k now while the 9070 Xt should be much cheaper

[kindred halo]

Mrreeooow

[silent halo]

i built this system before i was computer educated, the cpu and motherboard were recommended by an acquaintance

[kindred halo]

What's that card and what's that board

[rigid fjord]

lucky it died on the mobo, if it was a full channel death then tbf it would be a cpu issue

[empty quartz]

Im tempted to get myself 2 maxsun arc pro b60 dual’s

[tulip sparrow]

AKA pretty sure there is at least a $300 difference between the 2 with the 9070 XT being cheaper

[empty quartz]

5 gpus in 1 system

[kindred halo]

THAT'S AN ARC B60?????

[kindred halo]

Oh yeah, even more lucky

[empty quartz]

No, i have a b580 in my workstation rn

[silent halo]

i like that the ethernet port is advertising itself to someone who's already bought it

[kindred halo]

Seems quite thick for a B580 in the image

[keen folio]

Yeah Ik. But still. I’ve been thinking on going with NVIDIA for a while now, due to constant driver timeouts and such which I’ve personally never had with NVIDIA. Cod and battlefield get stutters every few games I play on my current 7800xt. Also haven’t had that with the NVIDIA card I was able to test.

[silent halo]

physical failure, i got a bit too confident with it

[empty quartz]

Its a dual slot, its a reference

[tulip sparrow]

Nvidia 50 series drivers have been terrible

[kindred halo]

Oh, looks quite thick, huh

[tulip sparrow]

I am currently still on 566 drivers from nvidia since 572+ are all borked in some way or fashion

[rigid fjord]

considering consumer cpu's only have 2 channels, and only at the mobo does it get split as either 2 slots or 4 slots

[empty quartz]

Still thinner than my 2080ti & stix 2070

[silent halo]

so, given all this new information @kindred halo, should i run ram in slots 1,2,4 or just 2,4

[tulip sparrow]

I am on a 3070 Ti by the way

[empty quartz]

2,4

[silent halo]

having only 16gb is gonna suck

windows the hungry pig

[kindred halo]

2,4 honestly

[rigid fjord]

2+4

[empty quartz]

Go on ebay, or facebook marketplace (depending on what country you live in) and get a 2x16 if you can afford it

[south arrow]

Typically, but always refer to ones manual and or download the manual from online then double check

[kindred halo]

Omg you just reminded me

There's this RoG Strix X399-E board for sale

[south arrow]

[empty quartz]

I eated

[rigid fjord]

not for the price it's at dude, ddr4 is at ddr5 pricing

[kindred halo]

New though, 362 USD

[empty quartz]

Oh

[silent halo]

I've been thinking of getting a new cpu + mobo anyway, I'll just wait until i can afford that

thank god the ram itself is fine

[empty quartz]

I havent checked ram prices since like december

[south arrow]

Its pretty mehh

[empty quartz]

Well, “black friday”

[tulip sparrow]

DDR4 has gone up in price just NOT as bad as DDR5

[rigid fjord]

yeah, pricing on ddr4 has shot up especially on secondhand market

[kindred halo]

There's also an X299

[south arrow]

Its now effected gpu and ssd/hdd a good bit as well

[kindred halo]

2x Turbo M.2 and a... Turbo U.2?

God I wish I had stupid money to buy this stuff

[tulip sparrow]

Yeah the 5070 Ti is currently $1k+ which is NOT fun

[south arrow]

[empty quartz]

I wouldnt recommend x299/x99 unless you need alot of pcie lanes for cheap

[tulip sparrow]

Currently looking at the 7900XT ro replace my 3070 Ti for 1440p gaming+VR Mods

[kindred halo]

I don't, only looking because of silly

[tulip sparrow]

The 8GB on my GPU is just NOT enough

[kindred halo]

What's wrong with them anyway? Socket 2066

[tulip sparrow]

12GB is the bare minimun lowend cards should have with midrange having 16gb and highend having 24+ honestly

[empty quartz]

Not the best for gaming

Plus the cpus are still expensive

[kindred halo]

If I was looking for gaming performance I wouldn't be looking at LGA 20 now, would I?

[tulip sparrow]

the 5050 9GB should be the 5050 12GB honestly and should be the ONLY 5050 on the market

[empty quartz]

I guess

[kindred halo]

5060 12GB as minimum
5050 10GB

[tulip sparrow]

the 8GB 5060 and 5060 Ti just need to die BUT thsoe are the only ones that are NOT unobitium

[kindred halo]

There's ALSO an X399

[empty quartz]

X399 is threadripper 1&2

[kindred halo]

Which makes me hope I find any sort of Zen 2 threadripper if I want to use that lol

[kindred halo]

Oh
Just 1 & 2? So stuck to Zen+?

[tulip sparrow]

@kindred halo I was saying 5060 needs that 16gb and so does the 5060 ti while the 5070 would go hard with 18gb or more if not 20

[empty quartz]

Good luck getting an x399 cpu for under 300 usd

[iron ridge]

Anyone familiar with Uninterruptible Power Supplies? I have a rather specific question.

[empty quartz]

Ask

[tulip sparrow]

*IS threadripper 3 TR socket?

[kindred halo]

Oh 💔

[empty quartz]

X99 is your best bet for a budget friendly workstation

[tulip sparrow]

You want a UPS with Sinewave for modern PC's

[kindred halo]

Why would first generation threadripper be expensive

[tulip sparrow]

I went though that when looking for a UPS replacement last year since my last one was from like 2001

[kindred halo]

Little excessive for the likes of NVidia, but.. I like

[tulip sparrow]

Well you could leave the 20Gb for the 5070 ti if you want

@kindred halo which is why I was waiting for the 5070 Super with its supposed 18Gb of VRAM

[kindred halo]

Personally, this would be my VRAM layout:

5050 10GB
5050 Ti 12GB
5060 12GB
5060 Ti 16GB
5070 16GB
5070 Ti 20GB
5070 Ti Super 24GB
5080 24 GB
5080 Ti 28-30GB
5090 32GB

[tulip sparrow]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00429N19W is what I own as a UPS now

Up that 5070 to 18GB and the base 5050 to 12gb and you have mine

[kindred halo]

5070 Super.. Would've been quite the card, shame they cancelled it

[tulip sparrow]

@kindred halo yeah hence why I am looking at AMD to replace my 3070 Ti now

[kindred halo]

5050 base at 12GB is too much, that's just too much VRAM for so little GPU

[iron ridge]

So I want to get an UPS for my new PC. Based on my understanding majority of online UPS’s use the IEC 60320 standard meaning the outlet is C13. The standard my country uses is type F (Schuko). So understandingly the PSU and monitor that I will locally purchase will come with a power cable fit for my country outlet standard. In order to connect my PC and laptop to the UPS outlet do I use an adapter of some sort or buy 2 sets of power cables that match the ups outlet?

[kindred halo]

Which is 5050 Ti is 12GB

[kindred halo]

7700 XT? 7800 XT?

[tulip sparrow]

7900 XT currently @kindred halo

[rigid fjord]

because it was originally a 5k cpu that had mobo's costing 200-600

[tulip sparrow]

@iron ridge if you puchase if in your country for your country it should come with the correct cabling to plug into the wall

and the sockets on it should be the correct ones

[kindred halo]

Hmmmmmmmm

[kindred halo]

Oh cool
I have AMD doesn't continue abandoning their non RX 9000 cards and gives them decent FSR

[rigid fjord]

zen 3 is where threadrippers really got good

[kindred halo]

Is threadripper 1 & 2 Zen & 2 or Zen & Zen+

[tulip sparrow]

Yeah looking at the 7900XT thanks to that 20GB of VRAM since VR takes an extra 1-2GB ontop of what the games use already

[brave brook]

CPU is easy, motherboard is hard https://www.hary15.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-1920x-box-sealed-box/

1920x is 59 euros sealed old stock

[kindred halo]

You should get this instead :3

[kindred halo]

Board is 261 USD lol

[rigid fjord]

1000 series threadripper is zen 1 afaik

[brave brook]

even 3955wx is 'only' 200 euros. But WRX80 boards are super expensive https://www.hary15.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-pro-3955wx-box-soc-swrx8-280w-without-fan-2/

[kindred halo]

RoG Strix X399-E

[kindred halo]

Zen 2 is 2000?

[tulip sparrow]

Wahts the pricing on those these days?

[brave brook]

i got X399 Taichi + 2950x here

[rigid fjord]

no

[brave brook]

TR 29xx is Zen+

[rigid fjord]

3000 is zen 2

[kindred halo]

If you can even find one lmao

[kindred halo]

Okay, not TOO bad

[iron ridge]

Well if it’s a line interactive model yes, based on my research 90% of the online UPS are with the C13 standard cause they are used in servers.

[tulip sparrow]

Also the 3080 still uses the 8pins correct?

[kindred halo]

So the equivalent of using an R5 2600 with double the cores

[kindred halo]

Unfortunately no, atleast NVidia FE

[tulip sparrow]

@iron ridge there are plenty of stand alone UPS models out look at APC/Cyberpower for examples. Look at any of your local sites for UPS

That was the start of the 12vhpwr mess huh?

[kindred halo]

Oh that's cool
How much did you get those for

[brave brook]

i bought them when they were new

[brave brook]

RAM was the killer

[tulip sparrow]

Should take you to your region https://www.cyberpowersystems.com

It tkaes me to the US site for example

[brave brook]

2950x was 889.96 euros new

back in september 2018

[kindred halo]

... Bloody hell

[tulip sparrow]

@iron ridge your local tech seller site should have what you need in stock for your region

[kindred halo]

How much did you pay for the board?

[kindred halo]

Oh, I forgot about that entirely

[azure topaz]

i love bdie

[brave brook]

you can see it in pciture above, 390 euros

[brave brook]

and it was the worst choice for X399

[azure topaz]

if i find myself in slovakia i will convieniently find myself within your home stealing your bdie

[tulip sparrow]

@iron ridge What country do you live in?

[azure topaz]

yah, its real hard on the IMC

i can boot 4400 max on any of my bdie dimms on my b550 board, with DJR and rev.e i can do 5K+

[kindred halo]

2,255.3 Euro. Wow.

[azure topaz]

(the 4400 limit is probably a factor of the pcb of the ram and less so bdie itself but it would still apply similarly)

[brave brook]

there were many worse purchases at HEDT

[kindred halo]

God I want to get into workstation chipsets and such but they're so expensive

My only option as a budget baller living off $100 a month is X99 💔

[brave brook]

Intel extreme CPUs were $1k every generation

[azure topaz]

i have a w590 or whatever its called

w480? something

[iron ridge]

Germany. I honestly can’t find any online UPS with Schuko type f support

[azure topaz]

workstation lga 1200

[kindred halo]

Isn't HEDT an older system for coordination between your system and CPU?

[azure topaz]

high end desktop

[rigid fjord]

closest you'll get for cheapness, is a really old xeon

[brave brook]

HEDT = High End desktop. So CPUs like 5960x literally launched at $1k, and that was 8c/16t

[kindred halo]

OH OH OH

[azure topaz]

not good

[kindred halo]

Ivy Bridge Xeon <3

[azure topaz]

also look up the cost of a board then promptly forget the idea

[kindred halo]

It's one of the better options on X399-E

[kindred halo]

261 USD (Assuming before tax)

[azure topaz]

means very little

[brave brook]

someone is selling one which fails with code 00 for 70 euros 😄

[azure topaz]

this is like saying the ryzen 7 1700 is one of the better options on a crappy HP prebuilt

like yes, that is true, because it cant upgrade past that

[tulip sparrow]

are these not the right ones? https://www.amazon.de/-/en/CyberPower-CP900EPFCLCD-Backup-Sinewave-Sockets/dp/B004SO5FWM

[nimble arrow]

I'll buy it off you

[azure topaz]

70 isnt bad at all

[rigid fjord]

or a 1600af on said prebuilt

[kindred halo]

Fair

[brave brook]

for dead board ?

[azure topaz]

wait fawk thats a zenith extreme

hey paradroid whats shipping from slovak to us like

[ebon marlin]

that post is almost 3 months old brah

[nimble arrow]

I need a parts T480

Help a brother out

[brave brook]

gona be expensive, probably more than 70 euros 😄

[azure topaz]

technically if i want a way more broken set of two i can pay 75$ ea

[kindred halo]

I shall look at Newegg and EBay for RoG X99 boards then

[azure topaz]

wha

[tulip sparrow]

@iron ridge also got this one https://www.amazon.de/-/en/APC-Back-UPS-BX950MI-GR-Uninterruptible/dp/B08G8XMS26

[iron ridge]

Right, but this is line interactive model. I am looking for a double conversion/online model

[azure topaz]

definitely not newegg if you buy a new x99 board im straight blocking you

"i will check newegg for 11 year old hardware brand new"

[kindred halo]

Newegg has used / open box stuff

[brave brook]

i bought the gamer UPS from APC, 2200VA, that one is good.

[kindred halo]

I was planning to buy a used B550 off there

[azure topaz]

not usually stuff like this, and if they do its not ever priced good

yeah thats a fuck ton newer than haswell

they still make cpus for that

[iron ridge]

I was considering APC but I read they got ruined by the company that bought them.

[kindred halo]

Oh </3

[tulip sparrow]

I have a Cyberpower 1500VA one for my self already trying to help @iron ridge who lives in germany

[brave brook]

X99 is 12 years old. X399 is 8 years old

[azure topaz]

although if you want chinna stuff instead go ahead

44 whole bones

[kindred halo]

Also please don't joke about that :<
I know it's mostly a joke, but I am a little too susceptible - read my bio for a little more info

[nimble arrow]

Check thrift stores

I got mine from one for $20

[azure topaz]

(probably not even quad channel)

[tulip sparrow]

@nimble arrow likely need to replace the batteries in those LOL

[brave brook]

i like my X99-K9 from Machinist, but it has it's issues (mostly the lame china fan control)

[kindred halo]

I kinda just want RoG stuff if I am going silly non-primary machine ventures

[nimble arrow]

Nope

[azure topaz]

but uhhh these arent even rog and theyre 200+

[nimble arrow]

Perfect condition

[kindred halo]

RoG boards are pretty

[brave brook]

ironically that is good about Machinist X99-K9 - it is quad channel

[kindred halo]

So are other companies but I like the logo

[nimble arrow]

It was listed for $80, told the cashier it was broken and needed new batteries

Got it discounted to $20

[tulip sparrow]

I personally own this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00429N19W

[azure topaz]

yah, i went the imo better route of just buying an x99 workstation

shiii go find a cpu for this

130$ aint bad for an x299 board i dont think

[tulip sparrow]

900watts is plenty for my needs and allows me to shut the system down when the power goes out

[brave brook]

if it works

[azure topaz]

says buy it now and not parts only but you do never know until you read

[kindred halo]

@azure topaz Oh btw how's octa-channel looking for decent X(X)99 boards

[azure topaz]

8 channel doesnt exist on x99

[kindred halo]

That's the same price as my X570

[azure topaz]

i mean it does you just need two cpus for that

[kindred halo]

Which is why a second X was placed
Can you even octa channel on ANY board?

[brave brook]

but really the only reason to buy X99/X299/X399 is if you want to run 3-4 GPUs for LLM. There is no other reason than that. And even then, for the price you will pay for the GPUs, there are better options for LLM

[azure topaz]

yes

[kindred halo]

Yay

[nimble arrow]

So, was that a no?

[brave brook]

newest TR, the TRX90

[ocean axle]

If you have two cpus, thats not "x99"

[tulip sparrow]

Had to look intot he difference between sinewafve and non sinewave ups and tuyrns out you need a sinewave for a modern pc

[azure topaz]

true its c612 or whatever

[ebon marlin]

I already bought it for myself it's just a bios lock which isn't difficult to get rid of

[nimble arrow]

Have you gotten rid of it?

[azure topaz]

"x99" ultimately meaning the broader range of lga 2011-3

[ebon marlin]

nah still own it

[nimble arrow]

The BIOS Lock I mean

[ebon marlin]

nahä

[nimble arrow]

If you come across another T480 at the recycling, lmk

I just need one in good cosmetic condition
I don't care about anything else

[ebon marlin]

if i see a t480 im getting that ho

[azure topaz]

L

[ebon marlin]

those are big money

[nimble arrow]

🥀

[tulip sparrow]

Speaking of seems I need to update my UPS program on my desktop lol

[kindred halo]

Can an x299 achieve that

[brave brook]

for home LLM, it is hard to justify anything else than AMD Ryzen™ AI Max+ 395 systems with 128GB LPDDR5x-8000. Those cost around 2500-2700 euros, can give 96GB for GPU side. Cheaper than any GPU you could get to reach that VRAM capacity

[azure topaz]

i dont think so either

[kindred halo]

It already can apparently do 16x3 + x8

[azure topaz]

why

dont answer and let me guess

[ebon marlin]

already snagged 2 functional X230's and a Lenovo Legion Y540 all for 20€ with 16gb of ram and 256gb ssd's in all of em

[azure topaz]

linux larp and tiktok glaze

[kindred halo]

I don't have 2500-2700 Euros <3
And no, no LLMs

[ebon marlin]

yes

[azure topaz]

why the fuck are 8th gen 4 core shittops 400$

[kindred halo]

I genuinely don't have a use for these beside building

[azure topaz]

with no ram or ssd

[brave brook]

then why do you want to get HEDT ?

[azure topaz]

yeah buddy end it all

[nimble arrow]

I just need a T480 palmrest

[ebon marlin]

t480's go for around 200-400€

[kindred halo]

I have ambitions but I am too stupid for any real productivity

[nimble arrow]

eBay prices are outrageous

[ebon marlin]

order one from Ebay or Ali

[azure topaz]

if someone pays 400 euro for an 8th gen laptop they deserve it

[tulip sparrow]

@iron ridge cyberpower has server based ups devices as well if you need one of those and yes you can find them on the germany amazon site

[kindred halo]

I COULD try to train AI on it for my brother or something, but I don't think I myself have any use for it

[nimble arrow]

I'm not paying $50 for one when I can get an entire T480 for $100

[ebon marlin]

hmm

[kindred halo]

Sorry to disappoint, I don't have any great ideas :<

[azure topaz]

start small buy big later

oh my gahd

[nimble arrow]

Europe?

[ebon marlin]

yeah, Finland

[azure topaz]

bro i had the option to get a bunch of thinkpads at one point from a family friend maybe i shoulda taken ts up

[tulip sparrow]

example @iron ridge https://www.amazon.de/-/en/CyberPower-CP2000EIPFCRM2U-Line-Interactive-Protection-Communication-black/dp/B0DK5WS5QR

[azure topaz]

what even is the hubbub

[kindred halo]

I hope I get more work to do, that'll increase my paycheque to the area of $200 a month

[nimble arrow]

They're not that expensive

[tulip sparrow]

$400 for "8th Gen" Ryzen sure lol

[azure topaz]

no, but like 250$ not from a big retailer

[kindred halo]

And with my brother moving out, that's a whole bed's space + 50cm*3m from downsizing the closet free (our closet takes up the whole room at like 50cm x 4m lol)

So I have space to place machines and stuff

[tulip sparrow]

Since I live in flordia I don't really need bulky clothes any more LOL

[azure topaz]

you can get a clapped one without a battery and semi cracked chassis for 100$ on auction if you want

[kindred halo]

Extra wall sockets to utilise aswell, minimise the need for a PC to be plugged into anything but direct 220 Volts

[nimble arrow]

?

[azure topaz]

i got my ideapad from the same gen for 100$ and it has a dgpu (oh and it fucking works) so i dont get it

[tulip sparrow]

Ryzen 8000 series @nimble arrow

[kindred halo]

Stuff gets cold here but a hoodie or other winter cloth is enough

[tulip sparrow]

Like the 8845HS or similar

[kindred halo]

Around.. 10±5° C at their most extreme

[azure topaz]

(2 years ago 😭 )

[kindred halo]

Which is.. Lemme see

[tulip sparrow]

I got my 16" AMD 8840HS for $650

[nimble arrow]

I bought my T480 for $160

It was pristine

But then I dropped it, and now I need a new palmrest

Why are they $50? 🥀

[kindred halo]

41 to 59° F

[azure topaz]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dinkleberg-3

[tulip sparrow]

But $400 for 8th gen intel u just no

[tidal geyser]

yup

[kindred halo]

I could build a tiny X99 machine in this lovely little case

[azure topaz]

i find it really annoying that depending on what you search on ebay you get an entirely different UI

[kindred halo]

I also may have to invest in used PSUs

I'll need something like a Dr. Power III or whatever

[azure topaz]

its been like this for like 3 years

[tidal geyser]

i love not needing to use ebay

[azure topaz]

zip code dox but whatever

[brave brook]

i did one in A3-mATX

[azure topaz]

if you saved the image before i deleted it i hope you cherish it

[kindred halo]

I am sensing a pattern here

Everything is EBay, Newegg, or Amazon

[tidal geyser]

xd

[kindred halo]

I can't find anything local

[brave brook]

also china boards go quadchannel/8-slots with very minimal PCIe lanes 😄

[kindred halo]

X99 definitely abundant

[nimble arrow]

Whatever? It was a 5+4 zipcode

[tidal geyser]

the image is still up

[tulip sparrow]

I can toss up facebook criagslist and aliexpress if you want @kindred halo LOL

[kindred halo]

How could quad channel even be? All DIMMs on one end populated? Or 2,4 on each end?

[azure topaz]

do something about it bro

[nimble arrow]

The deleted image had a 5+4 zip code

[azure topaz]

realistically what is the linus tech tips discord doing with my town

[tulip sparrow]

quad would be at least 4 sticks?

[kindred halo]

Facebook is my primary go-to for used items

[brave brook]

all 4 of same color obviously

[nimble arrow]

Search for A485s

Ryzen T480

[kindred halo]

Craigslist I don't think delivers to Lebanon at all

[tidal geyser]

send gifts

[kindred halo]

Fair

[tired bear]

never seen that model, how much is it?

[azure topaz]

yeah send something to my zip code and just hope it makes it to me

[brave brook]

100 euros https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008882621094.html

[tulip sparrow]

@tired bear check aliexpress for such motherboards LOL

[kindred halo]

Do I need a specific tester? Or does anything work?

[nimble arrow]

5+4 zip codes give away your exact street btw

[brave brook]

seen it for 70 euros in deals i think

[azure topaz]

again

[nimble arrow]

Not just town

[azure topaz]

do something about it bro

[nimble arrow]

Is that a challenge?

[azure topaz]

i have somewhat ok faith in the fucking loser nerds (me included) that nobody is going to do anything

[odd marsh]

fuck i missed it

[tired bear]

too much when this is 130

[azure topaz]

if youre asking for permission to dox me so i wouldnt be able to fight you in court, no

if you take it as one youre just silly

[brave brook]

if you don't mind the server noise

[azure topaz]

the fact you even said that just makes you silly i wont lie

[kindred halo]

Okay so
It seems the expenses till now are:

[tired bear]

yea lol

[brave brook]

ironically, if you want new big brand old motherboards, then aliexpress is your choice. Like https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008169611209.html

or https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005011761392600.html (X99-E WS)

[azure topaz]

its ok bro you can come overwhenever you want

[odd marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/yesss-kip-napoleon-dynamite-great-gif-14444905

[kindred halo]

-Dr. Power III = 74.59 USD
Chinese X99 + E5 2680 V4 + 32GB ECC = 180 USD
Thermaltake SMART RGB 700W (D tier </3) = around 30 if I can get it that low, anything above 40 and I'll just buy an A550BN

[azure topaz]

you must bring kyoko and mike

it may not be optimal but you gotta do it

[kindred halo]

Oh right the case

[odd marsh]

ill see what i can do

[azure topaz]

i am not trusting a 140w cpu on a D tier psu

[kindred halo]

Segotep BX Mini 3 = $26

[azure topaz]

theyre like pretty far from you bro like equal distance between us 💀

[kindred halo]

140W?
Okay yeah, A550BN

[azure topaz]

yeah

ill take that C- or C whatever tier instead

[odd marsh]

we will have to fly them out or smth

[kindred halo]

C tier

I wouldn't trust it in my PC if not atleast C

Anyway.. Finding an AIO for the X99...

I hope 240mm would be enough?

Unless a generic dual tower is?

[azure topaz]

any tower with 4+ heatpipes

140w is not a lot of power especially when you consider how much larger the cpus are

1660 V3 (haswell 8 core, unlocked) vs idk i think thats a 3220

grabbed desktop and not desktop

[empty quartz]

I stand corrected

[kindred halo]

Oh
Even single towers?

[empty quartz]

I can confirm

[tired bear]

epyc motherboard might be easier to obtain

[ebon marlin]

just got a huawei pura 70 pro for sub 300€ lmao

these things go for double on Ebay

[azure topaz]

yes

cooler in my t5810

[tired bear]

narrow ilm?

[azure topaz]

doesnt look square so, yeah

[tired bear]

awyep

[kindred halo]

Huh, really neat

[empty quartz]

Still funny how if you use noctua 2011 mounting studs, you can use a thermalright ps120se on lga 2011-3

I wouldn’t recommend it if you already have a 2011 compatible cooler

[brave brook]

nothing ever beats having AM5/LGA1700 mounting kit for a cooler from 2 decades ago (Thermalright) 😄

cooler from 2008

[empty quartz]

I might finally yoink my ps120se out of my workstation to use for another gaming system to sell

[azure topaz]

graphics card

[kindred halo]

Phantom Spirit doesn't have native 2011-3 support?

[brave brook]

MSI GTX1050 RMA box

[brave brook]

Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 Mini has 2011/2066 compatible mount

[azure topaz]

strange

[kindred halo]

Okay wow
The single tower assassin isn't compatible with 2011

[empty quartz]

Nope

[kindred halo]

Has 115x, 1200, 1700, and 1851, but no 2011 </3

[kindred halo]

Yeah the one I am looking at has no compatibility either

[empty quartz]

Already got a noctua cooler for 2011

[kindred halo]

Strange sight from what is usually such a versatile company

[empty quartz]

:3’ing on my luch break

[kindred halo]

I guess I'll have to use this $15 redragon cooler lol

Tower with 2x 120mm

[brave brook]

2011/2066 was dropped for most coolers a while ago

[kindred halo]

Oh er
Does 3 pin mean MOLEX

[brave brook]

no, it means no PWM

just voltage control for speed

[kindred halo]

Has only a 3 pin apparently, so I guess no real RGB control
Unfortunate, I wanted to turn it off

This thing is ARGB (means I can turn it off!), has 2011 support, and 120mm :3

From what I've heard, 2011 sockets are similar enough to allow coolers that allegedly only support first generation 2011 to work with later 2011s?

Oh, I forced everyone to move to tc2
Sorry :<

[south arrow]

https://youtu.be/QKPvYbCSWT8?si=kRiAixj9XZNPzIl1

Lmao the flutes xD

[tidal grail]

I feel like this could fit in tech support, but it's not really support. More like What would you do?

It's been a 5yrs, a new different brand of CPU (Intel 12700-KF to Ryzen 7900X), and new GPU. Debating on reinstalling Windows for a performance boost/clean slate. I used to do one yearly when i was on a laptop. Opinions?

[formal sonnet]

Up to you. Reinstalling Windows won't magically make the hardware itself any faster, but it certainly can help make using it feel faster since you'll be starting with a completely fresh OS.

[shadow shale]

Chat when should i be charging my phone

[fringe prairie]

anytime you want

[shadow shale]

... What about longevity, battery cycles and that stuff

[fringe prairie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLS5Cg_yNdM&t

[shadow shale]

Ive watched this video sooo many times but its unrelated to my question

[fringe prairie]

im at like 84% battery health after 2.5 years and i just charge my phone anytime i want

[shadow shale]

Still doesnt answer my question lmao

[stable beacon]

guys my sd card is starting to split in half, it still works though but is this concerning especially now that it's double price

[fringe prairie]

im at 825 cycles, charge anytime i want, 85% battery health after 2.5 years

lowkenuinely just dont overthink it 🤷‍♂️

[shadow shale]

Ok bro if u dont have an answer then just say

[fringe prairie]

my answer

"dont overthink it"

[shadow shale]

How did it split 💀

[shadow shale]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-bait-lol-lmao-gif-3554026694133497645

[frail sequoia]

@warm anvil romance planet has a new release!

[warm anvil]

ooooooooo

[stable beacon]

idk i just took it out of my camera it's still technically together it's just i can split it apart now i guess really easily

[fringe prairie]

its not even ragebait. literally just dont overthink it

[shadow shale]

@warm anvil hows peggle

[warm anvil]

click on my profile

[shadow shale]

Been thinking abt buying it

[stable beacon]

the write protection switch is the only thing keeping it together 💀

[shadow shale]

Oof

[warm anvil]

wha

[shadow shale]

No

[shadow shale]

Idk but dont the case click back in?

[frail sequoia]

New song is the one on the right, too lazy to crop it, also it shows as a file cause my s23 ultra takes 200mp photos

[stable beacon]

idk i'm not touching it though it's just freely opened at that crack

[shadow shale]

Im pretty sure they click back in but its best to not try just in case it oofs

[formal sonnet]

Super glue can fix this... If applied carefully. Otherwise that card will eventually split entirely. Ask me how I know. 😄

[shadow shale]

SDs arent the most durable thing ever lol

[warm anvil]

anyways peggle is goated

[stable beacon]

i have another 128 card i can format but that's my last one

[shadow shale]

seems like it lol just want an idea on what its like before i buy

[warm anvil]

i pirated it

[shadow shale]

Thats up to you

[shadow shale]

Fairs

I love piracy but i really cba with the risk of malicious shit getting on my pc...not anymore

[stable beacon]

i genuinely thought about showcasing and doing analog film in case the ai bros collapse the entire world

[shadow shale]

Im really...idk my battery on my phone is low but i also need it tmr morning but its at 28% i mean i wanna use my battery properly not charge it when its not dead

[errant rapids]

Last night I won this case at a LAN party, might move my build into it when I service my cooling loop. ❤️

[shadow shale]

Thought this was a scam at first mb

Is it fractal? Looks nice

[errant rapids]

Inwin 216

[shadow shale]

Meh close enough

[errant rapids]

it's got a better build quality than my cooler master TD500 mesh

[shadow shale]

Tbh as much as I love protecting the environment and as much I hate plastic I cant stand glass panels because what if they break?

[shadow shale]

Looks really clean ngl

[errant rapids]

Jay had a video about how much it actually takes to break a glass side panel, he even threw a hammer at it and it was fine

[ivory mountain]

6900xt cookin on re9 holy

[errant rapids]

it's edge drops that get you

[errant rapids]

the wood trim looks fancy

[unique aspen]

yall