tech-chat-1

[icy sundial]

Here is the one I was actually at

Biggest in US I think dream hack is like Eastern Europe

Sweden, close enough

Shit was fire

[wheat torrent]

what are they doing

it must be so loud out there

[icy sundial]

Gaming with sub 5 ms latency before the internet got gud

[wheat torrent]

mmmm

[icy sundial]

Originally that was the entire point

[wheat torrent]

so all of them playing on a server

[icy sundial]

Hence local area network party being the name of such gatherings

[icy sundial]

Well when it's big enough there would be a few things going on at the same time

There would be file servers set up and tournaments

The whole gamut

And also huge sponsors as well so you would actually win shit. good shit

[ripe osprey]

I just successfully built my first pc on my own

[sinful cobalt]

congrats

[icy sundial]

Huge win! Congrats!

[gaunt spade]

gpu

[grizzled frost]

where da gpu

[sinful cobalt]

the SFF people have determined “ATX bad” and stole his card

[verbal prawn]

They said 475

Roughly

[ripe osprey]

Im currently saving up for a gpu but I got the rest of the system built and working i just need my birthday money and my Christmas money when I get them I'll buy a gpu and btw its a ryzen 5 7500x3d

[icy sundial]

Leon Kennedy is confusing me

[sharp ivy]

very cool

your cable management is pretty good for a first build

[obtuse yew]

The first shirtless mod came out

[sharp ivy]

huh?

🥓

[sinful cobalt]

if the case is big enough behind, below its pretty easy to just stuff all the cables behind

thats what I did in my H6 flow and HS420

[clear canyon]

ur ram is in the wrong slot

[hardy horizon]

Hours of trouble shooting,

• My HDMI port doesn't work
• I have to force HW Thunderbolt in Bios or I lock up
• the PSU short killed the SSD AND $500 hard drive

Currently installing windows on my least favorite m.2

Hoping getting into device manager and take a look at some things and hopefully run some stress tests and find out if it hurt the CPU, which I suspect it has.

Oh and that "compatible" cooler? I had to loosen it. 😭

Never have I ever ran into so.many issues.

Tho I also never had a PSU modular cable wired wrong from the factory..... So yeah
5 thing dead or killed.
12 items purchased...

$800 in damage so far, 😔

[icy sundial]

Finally!

[obtuse yew]

Game was literally unplayable without shirtless Leon Kennedy

[icy sundial]

I would make a joke here about ||mutation emily|| but I wont

So I shan't

[obtuse yew]

Uh huh

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/humbled-cat-gif-bie-gif-17493722235118145820

[buoyant bridge]

God a little cardstock can change how a PC looks a LOT

None of this is glued btw it's all folded against a corner then tucked in place.

[gilded harness]

Congrats!

[icy sundial]

Your RGBnis is swole

The Sakura is a nice touch

[mint umbra]

So some states in America are going to require age verification for the operating system the current age of technology really sucks

[hardy horizon]

Here you have to upload photo id for adult sites ...

Yet twitter 🤔

[mint umbra]

Lmao

That's crazy

Bring back the Internet from like 2005

[buoyant bridge]

I dobut it passes

[mint umbra]

So far just New York and Cali

[buoyant bridge]

just because it was introduced doesn't mean itll pass (its less likely to pass than it is to not its only like 8% or so of state bills get passed)

[buoyant bridge]

they haven't even passed it its just introduced

its only put into law after being passed, don't worry till its atleast put on a ballot or brought into the house

[random gyro]

Did anyone try out These AR/XR glasses that only Display a "giant" Screen? I don't mean VR. I Wonder if it's actually nice to watch Shows for example on them. Laying down and relax while "looking at the ceiling" to watch your favorite Shows Sounds nice. I just don't know if its worth like 300€ for the rayneo Air 4 pro for example. I already have a 77 Inch OLED.

I Wish i could just try them out at an electronic market here in Germany but they don't have them

[main reef]

https://x.com/playstationasia/status/2029389421687259643?s=46

PlayStation Asia (@PlayStationAsia)

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X · Mar 5, 2026, 2:51 AM

[mild onyx]

uh what in the world do i do with this

[formal sonnet]

But... my... PS5 DualSense controller already does this? I am confused.

[main reef]

Not with adaptive trigger support

[hardy horizon]

Aren't u supposed to use the Microsoft controller with the Microsoft computr?

[formal sonnet]

It does if the game supports it. Always has for me...

The adaptive triggers feature is available when supported by the game. It isn’t compatible with Android-based mobile devices.
The haptic feedback feature is available when supported by the game and may require a USB connection on PC. It isn’t compatible with Mac computers and mobile devices.
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/hardware/pair-dualsense-controller-bluetooth/

Yep, this is just a marketing stunt. The Buy Now link on both the PC Accessories page and the PS5 Accessories pages directs me to the exact same controller listing on Sony's website. 🤣

[main reef]

This a good deal right

[ebon marlin]

I touched one thing in display settings for this Thinkpad T40 now everything is deepfried

[jaunty apex]

Wtf lmao they sell desktop speakers

Wait no it isnt I just forgot it existed, looks more featured than i remember though.

Ah. I don't have an edge

[verbal prawn]

@formal sonnet what are your thoughts on me buying a jdm imported 2007 lexus ls600h with 44500km and for 10k as a first car

[buoyant bridge]

yes?

a lot of monitors don't have speakers lol and dedicated speakers sound wayyy better

I have half height tower speakers that fit under my desk

[jaunty apex]

Sony

The ones who sell not PCs

That you dont generally have at a desk

[real quiver]

I'm not who you asked but this sounds like a bad idea to me

[formal sonnet]

No idea. In theory... Lexus is just more expensive Toyota, but I have no clue if their cars are actually worth it.

[verbal prawn]

i mean it's a 5l v8 hybrid with a ecvt

i feel like it's not exactly a normal lexus

[keen folio]

Guys. i need some help. i need a laptop with good battery life and good power. ive been eying the new Macbook neo, it almost has all i need. my only problem is the RAM. it only has 8 gigs. it seriously doesnt sound like its gonna last me as long as the air would. its also my first own macbook i would be buying, as i got all my "old" ones from work.

ive also been looking at the newest windows laptops, but getting one with the same battery life and power as a macbook is tough, especially for the in comparison cheap price.

(preferably i would get a windows laptop, but macs just do have the superior battery life, and i need it to last the whole day because i only have the chance to charge at home, not at my workplace)

[verbal prawn]

refurb m4 air

also question are you canadian?

[keen folio]

yeah ik, but they are still almost a 1000€ here

[keen folio]

german

[verbal prawn]

nevermind

[keen folio]

lol u got one for sale? xD

[verbal prawn]

no i just know a place that has a pretty good deal going on

[keen folio]

ahh okay.

[ivory mountain]

arizona green tea pc

[keen folio]

well, im prob gonna wait for another price drop on the M4 Air then

currently at 928€ new here

on amazon

[verbal prawn]

you can also get lunar lake laptops

[buoyant bridge]

I got 8 M1 Mac Minis for $600 recently

[wispy thunder]

m1 being dropped soon tho

the bloody things 6 years old now

it'd be going to grade school

[buoyant bridge]

They still sell for like $300 lol

Also they're getting atleast 3 more major MacOS versions

[keen folio]

ive used a Surface with a core 5 lunar lake, it was the surface pro 11.

i gotta be honest. the battery life on the surface is still worse than macbooks battery life, and also i fucking hate the keyboard on the surface.

theres also the point of them being so new, costing more than the 1200€ on apples website for the m5 air

[buoyant bridge]

Apple promised 9 years of MacOS releases on the M1 when it came out iirc

[wispy thunder]

no they didn't

[buoyant bridge]

New M1s where being sold via retail partners till 2025 so..

BestBuy and Walmart as well as some apple stores only recently pulled the M1 Air

[valid fiber]

as long as it says good you usually don't do anything with it
here in this case there are reallocated sectors and i know that happened when the hdd was dropped and it has not increased for months after that so i still totally trust the drive

[keen folio]

currently im on a lenovo thinkpad E16. but its so fucking slow, cant load discord correctly, even tho its a fresh install, chrome runs like shit. idk what to do with this anymore

[keen folio]

the fuck did you do to that drive for it to fail that early

only 12k power on hours? thats nothing

[wispy thunder]

m1 air was pulled 2024

so 2029 at best

[buoyant bridge]

Retail partners didn't pull them till 2025
Apple pulled them in 2024

[wispy thunder]

Apple doesn't care what retail partners do

[buoyant bridge]

They literally dictate when they have to stop selling them as new

part of the contract to buy apple devices as a retail partner is they decide when you have to stop selling them new

That's why BestBuy had a massive jump in "refurbished excellent" M1 Airs and M1 minis in Oct 2025

[wispy thunder]

and Idk where you're seeing the 2025 https://www.macrumors.com/2024/03/04/best-buy-13-inch-m1-macbook-air/

3 months into 2024 it's gone

[valid fiber]

it did not fail it fell down while beeing stored very poorly and temporary

[wispy thunder]

the same way just because you could buy a Oneplus 12 at bestbuy as late as last year, it doesn't change how long the support period is gonna be because Oneplus had discontinued the phone ages ago.

[buoyant bridge]

But OnePlus doesn't dictate when you have to stop selling their devices new

[wispy thunder]

Obv if it's sold till 2024, I'd expect support to 2029.

[wispy thunder]

and Apple determined that March 2024 was the date that you couldn't sell new anymore

the same time that they also stopped selling it at their own stores

[buoyant bridge]

Nope that was when apple stores pulled them they told retail partners to stop Oct 2nd 2025

[wispy thunder]

Source?

Everything that I'm seeing points to 2024 end date and retailers discounted the remaining devices to clear inventory

[wispy spindle]

32" 4k qd-oled on sale for for 500 bucks..... I might just have to cop 😫

[keen folio]

Ah shucks, that sucks

[valid fiber]

the drive is working fine and 12 sectors is nothing i would miss

[white mirage]

Any mods here ? Where can i share my youtube live stream ?

[cold skiff]

The rules state no self promotion

[formal sonnet]

You can't. See #rules

[empty quartz]

@formal sonnet i just found something in a used game i bought from a store

Theres this store nearby my house thats like gamestop/eb games but actually good

And i bought a ps3 game, and i opened it up to find the original fucking receipt from 2013

09/08/2013

[ebon marlin]

https://stupidpenisx.com/i/status/2029375406747599098

KipAshley (@KipAshleyy)

was watching markiplier’s playthrough of re9 and this man has 192 fucking gigs of ram and a rtx 6000 with 96 gigs of vram holy shit.

vxTwitter / fixvx · Mar 5, 2026, 1:56 AM

Lmao

Iron Lung money hit his bank

[cold skiff]

Flexing that RTX 6000 on a 285k for gaming. Feelsbadman

[fickle ivy]

How big is this game 😔

[cold skiff]

How small is your drive

[fickle ivy]

128gb

[cold skiff]

Well that’s a you problem

[fickle ivy]

It's a budget phone

[cold skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/like-i-said-leland-manigo-rdcworld1-as-i-said-i-told-you-gif-8859337329691127637

[fickle ivy]

?

[tidal geyser]

pretty sure he got it before that

[ebon marlin]

Holy yap

[tidal geyser]

way before, he does do a lot of other things than just gaming and light editing

[timid mural]

[keen folio]

Sacramento huh

xD

[empty quartz]

Dont get nano texture

[keen folio]

its okay in sunlight, but not worth the high price

[timid mural]

Is it that bad?

[empty quartz]

Yes

[keen folio]

its just not worth the price. the coating costs apple a few cents and you pay 200$ for it

if you work much in the sun, then i'd think about it, but otherwise no

[empty quartz]

And its pretty easy to damage

[timid mural]

Okay, I got rid of it.

I've never had it on my M3 Max and M4 Max, thought I'd give it a try.

[empty quartz]

Why do you even need 8tb anyways

[keen folio]

That too. my colleagues macbook has nano texture, he tried to clean his screen last week and took off the entire coating. just some water and a microfibrer towl

[timid mural]

Video and audio production, lots of it.

[empty quartz]

Why are you getting an m5 max 😭

M4 max is still more than what 99% of people need 😭

[keen folio]

even m4 is more than what 99% need

[plush wren]

Bros ignored the message

[keen folio]

look at me bro, im eying the new Neo rn, cuz thats all i need. altough i would love the touch id

[empty quartz]

Neo?

[timid mural]

Business expense at this point

[keen folio]

Macbook neo

[empty quartz]

Was it announced?

[timid mural]

Think of it as a Chromebook but in the Mac world.

[keen folio]

yess, yesterday

[empty quartz]

Oh fuck

[timid mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3SIKAmPXY4

[empty quartz]

Gotta pre-order it, gimme a sec

[keen folio]

https://www.apple.com/macbook-neo/

[timid mural]

Some things that I find odd with the Neo:

• no fast charging
• no Touch ID (unless 512GB)
• no backlit keyboard

[keen folio]

If you have it, please for the love of god, tell me. what i want most is good speakers. and i havent found anything that shows the speakers being used.

[timid mural]

You don't live close to an Apple Store by any chance?

[keen folio]

yeah they do have to make compromises to achieve the low price, but looking at as example raspberry pi laptops, with less than 200€ in price, even they have all those features

[keen folio]

Countryside

[timid mural]

How far are you to one?

[keen folio]

i'd need to drive 3 hours to even get there.

[timid mural]

Good God, okay.

[keen folio]

5 hours with train and bus

[timid mural]

Not even a Best Buy?

[empty quartz]

But consider how powerful the a18 pro is

[keen folio]

yeah, comparable to the M1

[empty quartz]

Faster in gpu

[keen folio]

yeah ik

[empty quartz]

While pulling less power too

Fuck you too apple 😭😭😭

[timid mural]

The Neo is such a nice gateway to the world of Mac, but I simply can't justify it -- knowing how my work is.

[timid mural]

That's not a bad trade-in value... ish

[empty quartz]

Dont lie to yourself

[keen folio]

Why the fuck is there a cross after the 840

[timid mural]

Although Apple is less insulting with trade-ins than Best Buy.

[keen folio]

They gave me 200 bucks for trade in for my 16 pro….

[empty quartz]

Im extremely insulted, back in 2021, this laptop was $5000 cad before tax

[timid mural]

Ouch.

[keen folio]

Perfect condition too.

Shits only 6 months old lol

[timid mural]

I wonder what my trade-in be for my M4 Max?

Probably $840 at best too

[empty quartz]

Its apple; a kick in the balls

[keen folio]

XD

[timid mural]

I don't think I've ever seen any trade-ins higher than $900 with Apple.

Yes?

[empty quartz]

I have

[timid mural]

With what product? MBP?

[empty quartz]

My 16pm back when the 17 lineup first launched

[timid mural]

Sub $1200-1300?

[empty quartz]

Cad, but smt like that

I really wanna get that new macbook tho

[keen folio]

Had one for 3000 with a Chesegrater

Tried it with my boss pc xD

But considering the thing cost 12k new, nah thank you

[timid mural]

The Neo?

[keen folio]

Ye.

[timid mural]

I forgot about the cheesegrater Macs

[keen folio]

Atleast try it out like cmon. You can return it

[timid mural]

I have the Studio in place of a cheesegrater.

[empty quartz]

@timid mural @keen folio how long until parker burton starts shitting on it

[keen folio]

I give it a week.

[empty quartz]

I honestly fucking hate that dude

[keen folio]

Same. He’s annoying.

[empty quartz]

And i dont hate many people at all

[keen folio]

But that other guy. What was his name? He’s black and has no clue about tech

(Not that I’m racist. I have black friends)

[timid mural]

MKBHD?

[keen folio]

Carter PCs

[timid mural]

[keen folio]

Nah he good.

[empty quartz]

All he does is fucking nitpick everything when it comes to apple. But the second it has android on it, its just a small caveat

[empty quartz]

All hail the apple glazer

[keen folio]

That guy is so fucking annoying. Sometimes I just wanna punch him in the face.

[keen folio]

XD

[timid mural]

@keen folio @empty quartz I looked these two up and if I see these two idiots pop up on my feed, it'd be your fault.

[charred sundial]

what do you guys think, should i get the macbook neo as a replacement for my iPad? It’s only for school and this iPad isnt living up to its standards anymore (ipad air 2022), because the battery is draining quick as hell. What do you guys think? (No, i dont want to hear the “just get a windows pc”, i already have a pc at home)

[empty quartz]

Parker burton is pretty much the entirety of “apple bad, android best” in a single person

[empty quartz]

Either take it to apple for a battery replacement, or get the macbook neo

[charred sundial]

right, those were the two options i was thinking of too, but honestly i am slowly starting to hate my ipad lol

So i think upgrading and exchanging my ipad for €135 might be the best option

[empty quartz]

Then get the macbook neo

Whats the main usecase

Do you need to store alot?

[charred sundial]

school work, which is literally just pages and firefox

but we need some apple soecific apps

[timid mural]

Personally, I think this guy is insufferable.
I've used Androids (still do) on a daily basis for live production work.

[charred sundial]

Oh my god not parker burton

[timid mural]

But I heavily despise Windows at the moment due to how bad Windows 11 is lately.

[empty quartz]

Thats just windows 11 in general

[timid mural]

Yes, I remain hybrid to all OS's out there -- but Windows 11 is just straight up bad.

[empty quartz]

My movie streaming system uses macos ventura, my main and workstation use windows 11, laptop uses macos & linux

[timid mural]

I had one performance at the school where the entire Dante network crashed because of an unresponsive Windows 11 PC in the network that stopped recording causing everything (lights, audio, video and linear timecode) to go out of course because Windows wants to be Windows.

[empty quartz]

I once had a single windows bluescreen destroy an entire install

[keen folio]

XD

[timid mural]

In my bedroom, I have this M4 Max as my main system for what I do -- video and photo editing, mastering audio recordings, programming lights, printing, etc.

[empty quartz]

Guh

Gimme :3333

[keen folio]

Sadly I can’t switch to Linux due to kernel anti cheat from Cod. it just don’t wanna run. I tried it in Arch, Ubuntu, Debian and 2 more distros. Just didn’t wanna work.

[timid mural]

But in my editing room, 3 external displays and a projector, it woul be my lovely Mac Studio with the M3 Ultra.

[empty quartz]

Guhhh

Which m3 ultra?

[timid mural]

The Mac Studio

[empty quartz]

No like how many cores?

[timid mural]

Oh! 32/80

[empty quartz]

Full specs?

[timid mural]

M3 Ultra, 32/80
256GB
4TB

[empty quartz]

Im stealing it :3

[timid mural]

Basically what I do, but this is on Windows (before the shitty updates)

[empty quartz]

Zamn

[timid mural]

42 actor mics, 14 orchestra mics

[bold olive]

computer meltdown speedrun: sata to pcie, pcie to 12v2x6

[empty quartz]

Nah

Molex to sata

“Molex to sata, lose all your data”

[timid mural]

Oh and if you’re wondering how much storage this is taking up.

||Each 2 and half hour session ranges from 600-700GB, depending on how long the session is.||

[brave brook]

https://videocardz.com/newz/geforce-rtx-3060-stock-may-return-starting-mid-march-2026 if it will be 12GB VRAM version and for 150 euros, it would be nice. But i suspect Nvidia will be greedy and ask 250 or 300 euros for it at minimum, and for 8GB version 😄

[empty quartz]

Yum

[timid mural]

@empty quartz I’m working on a production of Annie right now, I’ll be back to share more recording sessions (and maybe more Windows nightmares)

[ebon marlin]

150€ is literally impossible lmao

150€ for a 3060 literally undercuts the used market by 50-100€

For reference Gtx 1050 Ti's MSRP was 150€

3060 has 3 times the vram when we're in a shortage where vram and nand prices go up by 100% by vendors every month

[torn lava]

Is this a bas WiFi speed

[ebon marlin]

Average

[dreamy turtle]

is my screen cooked

it's doing this weird overlapping thing every 3 seconds

[keen folio]

its HP, what did you expect

[dreamy turtle]

it's called hinge problems on windows

[solid quail]

The macbook neo seems amazing for basic use. Great to see apple release some cheaper products these days

Now if only we got a "mac mini neo" or something like that. I'd immediately buy one

[keen folio]

eh, its fine. couldve gone with atleast 16 gigs of ram especially for new OSes coming out and all.

chip itself is deffo strong enough, but you prob wont get more then 3 major OS out of that thing

[solid quail]

The RAM usage in macOS (and iOS) is significantly different (and more efficient) when compared to Windows. 8GB is still adequate on the apple silicon macs

They couldn't add 16GB of RAM to the A18 pro as it lacks the memory bandwidth

[keen folio]

Not really. my current mbp with M4 has 32 gigs, it uses 7 of that with literally nothing running.

its on MacOS 26.3, so the newest version

[solid quail]

Same as Windows, the OS caches more data on your RAM when there's more RAM installed. If you had less RAM, it'd of course have less data cached.

[keen folio]

Also, btw, memory bandwith has nothing to do with how much ram it has, it has to do with the speed of the ram.

i could stick 256gigs of ram onto the a18pro if i wanted, and it would work. just would be as fast as if i had the 8 gigs only

[solid quail]

Yeah sorry, I meant memory channels/bus width. Apple couldn't have more RAM paired with the A18 for those reasons

[solid quail]

And maybe that's why they did not do that even if they could've (which I'm not entirely sure about)

[solid quail]

But since Apple controls everything on their computers, macOS is optimized for the exact CPU + RAM layout and memory scheduling + caching are tuned specifically for those memory chips.

Which reduces wasted resources

[keen folio]

still not true. it works as if you were on a normal desktop. the A18pro has 2 memory channels, meaning the RAM runs in dual channel technically. and all that has nothing to do with the capacity. i can stick 2x 128gig sticks of ram onto my ddr4 board theoretically, it would work. all that would not work was the speed its supposed to run at, meaning i probably cant get the 3600mhz out of it but only 3200

[keen folio]

Fair.

[keen folio]

probably worded this totally wrong, i hope u get my gist

[solid quail]

But again, the problem comes to stability. It's a phone chip (and then also a phone CPU IMC) after all. It was originally made for 8GB RAM at most

[keen folio]

its validated at 8GB, doesnt mean it cant be validated for 12 or 16 Gigabyte.

its just a matter of replacing the memory chips. just like on the M series where its next to the CPU

[solid quail]

12GB I don't believe would be possible. As far as I know, the A18 pro's amount of memory channels is divisible by 2, not 3. I'm not sure if it was the equivalent of dual or quad channel.

[keen folio]

4 channels, i was wrong with 2 before. so it should be possible

or im misunderstanding something rn

[solid quail]

16GB probably would've been possible, but that would've required more engineering/testing from Apple, which would've meant more budget into making the thing -> potentially higher cost for the finished product

[solid quail]

Okay, then 12GB would've been possible as well, but I'll still stand on my previous message

But perhaps we get 12GB RAM if apple decides to revise this thing next year with the A19 PRO

[keen folio]

they produce the device for less than 150€ iirc. sell it for 700 here in germany. they can put a bit of money into that engineering and make it upgradable to 12 or 16 gigs of ram. considering they are probably gonna sell millions of those devices to users and organisations like schools and such

[solid quail]

And if they do so, I'd truly love to see a 399-499 "mac mini neo" with said CPU and RAM configuration

[keen folio]

if they even revise the neo with the a19pro

[keen folio]

yeah

[solid quail]

If the neo is a success, they most likely will

[keen folio]

yeah.

well my company is in the process of wanting to order 1200 of the Neo for the schools we manage. soooo theres that.

[solid quail]

Also getting a "mac mini neo" or an "imac neo" would be amazing for the education market. Back in the eMac era, apple dominated schools with those.

[keen folio]

yeah ik, my old school still hat powermac g4 and g5 until 2023

wasnt allowed to take on sadly due to "privacy concerns" as if i couldnt have just wiped the drive

[solid quail]

The top specced powermac G5 (two dual-core CPU:s and 16GB of RAM) was surprisingly powerful when I had a chance to test it a solid five years ago

[keen folio]

ours were the lowest end model. idk the exact specs anymore, but single dual core and such stuff

[solid quail]

assuming the workload you ran, supported powerPC. Also it heated the room pretty fast

[solid quail]

The single dual-core was already in the top end of the charts. The base model was a single-core CPU and then a dual single-core CPU

[keen folio]

stuff like text editor and such. that was all.

a bit of browsing the internet too

still with dial up in 2023

and that in fucking germany

[solid quail]

oh lord

[keen folio]

ye

[solid quail]

I'm tempted to get a 5900X for the b450m mortar max I picked up for free

also maybe this case and a used 3070 or a 6700

maybe around 500€ total cost

Currently that PC has a 3400G, 16GB, 1080 and a 500GB nvme

[untold aurora]

Hey guys I want to get a pc to run llms, any suggestions? I currently have a r9, 5070ti pc and an m4 mac mini, but I cant load any of the bigger models. Thinking of getting a ryzen max 395+ mini pc with 128gb of ram (for roughly 2300 usd)..

[grizzled frost]

96gb of allocatable vram is a good start

[cold skiff]

If you have to ask, you shouldn’t be buying.

[keen folio]

let him have his fun bro. he wants to try out but doesnt know what he needs, thats why hes asking

[bold olive]

😢

[ebon marlin]

https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/214804/g99-v100rmix-00/lian-li-vector-v100r-mini-ikkunallinen-matx-kotelo-musta

I'd also recommend this case

I own the ATX version of this same case it's very neat

[grizzled frost]

lian li officially makes a case cheaper than some of their fans

[solid quail]

Eh, that would make the build too tall.

[ebon marlin]

ITX then

[solid quail]

I already have the mobo, which I picked up for free

alongside a 3400G and 16GB of hyperx fury RGB

[ebon marlin]

I stole a 3400G from work the other day

[solid quail]

looking for a cheap 5900X/3950X and possibly a used 3070/6700XT

[latent pasture]

find the cheepest 5000x3d

[solid quail]

but the 1080 I picked up for free will do fine for some time

[latent pasture]

if that even exists lol

[solid quail]

not an option. Gaming is secondary, I need CPU performance

My current 16 core Xeon is on par with the 5800 in my workloads

a 3950x or a 5900x would be a great upgrade

and since I already have 32GB of RAM to pair with it just casually lying around

[frail sequoia]

Rate the setup

[grizzled frost]

5/10

[frail sequoia]

Fairs

[grizzled frost]

Actually make that 6/10, i stan the winxp machine

[solid quail]

that laptop raises it to 8,5/10

[frail sequoia]

Imma put a constantly running screensaver onto the xp laptop so it doesn’t turn off

[solid quail]

looks like a toshiba

[grizzled frost]

i love how everyone loves the old windows laptop

[frail sequoia]

E-system 3082

Good luck finding much documentation of it online

[grizzled frost]

You are correct, i can't find shit

[frail sequoia]

Yeah

Parts for it are non existent like the battery

[ebon marlin]

Nonexistent here in Finland lmao

[frail sequoia]

That’s the specs

[solid quail]

and a 5900x occasionally goes for 200

and a 3950x for 100

[tranquil cipher]

what should i consider buying?
r9 9950x3d + rtx 5090
r9 9950x3d + rtx 5080

r7 9850x3d + rtx 5090
r7 9850x3d + rtx 5080

[ebon marlin]

Are you mainly just gaming

Ryzen 9 x3d's are more harm than good if you're mainly just gaming

[tranquil cipher]

atm yes, but i had plans with streaming before but current pc just cant. and i do have quite some apps running for audio/or things like keyboard,mouse etc

[keen folio]

9850x3D and 5090 for most performance, altough a 5080 is enough for most stuff. Btw, the 4090 is still better than the 5080 in many things iirc

[frail sequoia]

Fuck all that for a second

HOW RICH ARE YOU
How does one afford that, what are ya gonna do next, put in 128gb of ram

[sinful cobalt]

5/10 very basic

[tranquil cipher]

64, but maybe in the future ill just upgrade it to 128 yes

[grizzled frost]

i'm on Setsuna's side, its a pretty dead average setup

[keen folio]

i got a server with 512 gigs of ddr5 ram

[grizzled frost]

5/10 isn't a bad score, it's perfectly average

[frail sequoia]

I got the sis661gx graphic drivers installed, now it’s technically in Hd

[sinful cobalt]

he got the beginner setup goin on

mines very high cortisol

[keen folio]

16x32 6000Mhz

[tranquil cipher]

btw how much does a 5090 cost in usd?

[frail sequoia]

That’s my pc

[keen folio]

depends, mostly around 3000 to 4000

[frail sequoia]

5k iirc, I’m in Scotland so it’s a rough guess

[keen folio]

at this moment

[ebon marlin]

"rate the setup" what setup are we supposed to see

[frail sequoia]

The desk

[grizzled frost]

also change the default win11 background

[tranquil cipher]

because i found a ASUS ROG Astral GeForce RTX 5090 OC for €3799

[sinful cobalt]

looks like sh-

[ebon marlin]

If you're trying to show something atleast show us something

[frail sequoia]

I sent my pc after

[frail sequoia]

Yes I agree it looks like shit

[sinful cobalt]

high cortisol setup

[ebon marlin]

Yum

[frail sequoia]

Damn, you got a good pc?

[keen folio]

fuck that image looks like shit. thanks discord for compessing everything

[frail sequoia]

Moza r5 spotted

[sinful cobalt]

r3

[ebon marlin]

I still haven't installed a new AIO in my system

Might do it when I buy another 5070

[frail sequoia]

Was close

[keen folio]

eh, its last gen, but yeah. R7 5800x3D, 7900XTX, 24TB SSD, 10 of that NVMe, rest is SATA SSD. and 64gigs of DDR4 3600

[grizzled frost]

setsuna will like this one

[ebon marlin]

Currently got a 5070 Gigabyte Windforce but I see someone selling a 5070 Aorus Master for a good price so I'm considering getting it

I make money from the upgrade aswell lmao

[sinful cobalt]

I see that your desk is also kinda bombed and yes like indeed

[frail sequoia]

I have a t300 integral alcantara wheel and raceline iii pedals and a th8s shifter

[tranquil cipher]

but yea, what would be best to do?

[ebon marlin]

Best choice is probably 9850x3d + 5080/5090

[keen folio]

here u can see it better

[frail sequoia]

Bonus points for cat

[sinful cobalt]

9950x3d 5090

[keen folio]

i got two of those assholes

[ebon marlin]

Both 5080 and 5090 are fine choices if you're playing 1440p then the 5080 will be enough but if you're playing 4k then 5090 would be a solid choice

[frail sequoia]

I have a dog and a puppy

[sinful cobalt]

meanwhile

[tranquil cipher]

btw, how about crazy mods/shaders for minecraft? would that change things?

[keen folio]

yummy dog xD
jk

[frail sequoia]

😭

[ebon marlin]

I personally wouldn't get a Ryzen 9 x3d since if you want to game with it properly you have to disable half the cpu effectively turning it into a frankenstein 9800x3d

[keen folio]

nah i could never hurt a dog or cat. (only if it attacks me, then im kicking the shit out of that bitch)

[ebon marlin]

Not really personally that I'm aware of

[tranquil cipher]

frankenstein 9800x3d

[frail sequoia]

XD

[sinful cobalt]

??????

[grizzled frost]

i have a very functional desk

[keen folio]

had a chihuahua attack me once. eh that didnt end well for the mutt

[ebon marlin]

Well yeah since Ryzen 9 9950x3d is literally just a combination of a 9800x3d and a 9700x and Windows kinda sucks with Ryzen 9 x3d cpus still

[tranquil cipher]

1200watts should be enough i assume

[ebon marlin]

Plenty

[grizzled frost]

you could get away with like 850w

[ebon marlin]

X3D cpus sip power

[keen folio]

my bf has a desk from amazon... for 40€... electric...

[tranquil cipher]

[ebon marlin]

5090 at stock eats upto 450w aswell

Plenty headroom

[sinful cobalt]

as you can see mine is on the verge of falling down

[ebon marlin]

Although higher end models will consume upto 600w at stock

[grizzled frost]

I have a pretty old solid wood desk that my parents bought ages ago

[sinful cobalt]

i plan for a desk upgrade sometime this to next month

4 leg standing desk at 160cm as opposed to this one at 120cm

[grizzled frost]

In my room i have an electric desk for all my tech tinkering

[sinful cobalt]

Im planning for dis

[sinful cobalt]

me when I dont know what Im talking

[frail sequoia]

This laptop infact does NOT have 256mb ddr ram sodimm
It was upgraded

[frail sequoia]

My dad did get it from his mum 20 year ago

[tranquil cipher]

then i think im gonna buy this unless you guys point out anything i didnt know/ have overlooked?
(I still have storage im just gonna swap, so thats why storage isnt in the list)

Case: Lian Li O11 Vision Compact midi tower
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9850X3D
AIO: Lian Li HydroShift II LCD-S 360N (Fanless)
MoBo: GIGABYTE B850 AORUS ELITE WIFI7
RAM: Corsair DDR5 Vengeance RGB 2x32GB 6000Mhz CL 30
GPU: ASUS ROG Astral GeForce RTX 5090 OC
PSU: be quiet! Pure Power 12M fully modular 1200 watts

FANS-
Bottom + Side (6x 1pack, intake): Lian Li UNI FAN SL-INFINITY 120 Wireless Reversed Blade RGB case fan
TOP (AIO) (1x 3pack, exhaust): Lian Li UNI FAN SL-INFINITY 120 Wireless RGB case fans
Rear (2x 1pack, exhaust): Lian Li UNI FAN SL-INFINITY 120 Wireless RGB case fan

[frail sequoia]

Tbh 1gb is maybe a lil bit overkill for a celeron

[latent pasture]

no, thats surprisingly easy to run
i play tfg with shaders on a ryzen laptop with vega igpu

[grizzled frost]

Mods/shaders for MC vary wildly

you can make MC run at like 10fps on a 9850x3d and 5090 with the right mods and shaders, but that doesn't mean anyone actually runs that

[sinful cobalt]

borderlands 5 performance leak

[latent pasture]

probably more on the mods that ruin perf
just watched some youtuber test 10 shaders max settings 32 render distance on a gtx 1650 and it was still able to get like 40-50fps on most of them with just a couple dropping to <20

unless ofc distant horizons

[obtuse yew]

Bought a full Panasonic 5.1 surround sound speaker set for 10 bucks at a thrift store, turns out the receiver for it is proprietary and sell on eBay for 60

[cold skiff]

Borderlands 5 is a PS6 exclusive. It will run at 30fps 1080p on the PS6

It’s exclusive to PS6 because the devs can’t get it to run at better than 15fps on DLSS 7 and FSR 5 with 5x MFG

[mild onyx]

im a tad curious to know how it has stats of a "brand new" drive when it is clearly not brand new

[valid fiber]

your drive isn't new?

[frail sequoia]

You need to search ei-system 3082, just found that out

[grizzled frost]

Lol there's a bot getting auto filtered in every chat

[frail sequoia]

Well I think

[frail sequoia]

Lol

[scarlet marlin]

is it possible to entirely remove my computer and replace it with a quantum supercomputer?

where do I even get one

[obtuse yew]

Oh I have a spare one I'm not using lying around

[scarlet marlin]

what flavor is it

[obtuse yew]

Green

[chilly shoal]

My Unifi world has expanded a lot….

[carmine yew]

unifi is awesome for prosumer / SMB usage

[chilly shoal]

It’s goated 🙂

Screw you pesky subscriptions

[ebon marlin]

I'm installing ptm for the first time I've got Thermalright Heilos V2 do I put it as is or do I cut it to fit the cpu?

The instruction guide shows it putting it as is letting it overflow from the IHS to the socket

[cold skiff]

You cut it to design

[ebon marlin]

Yeah guessed so cuz this is massive

[obtuse yew]

Square

[cold skiff]

You could use cut it better

[quasi moat]

chat are these numbers good

[ebon marlin]

Dogshit upload

[icy comet]

Standard, not great. I have worse.

[ebon marlin]

Download is decent

[quasi moat]

i think upload is capped by my provider

[icy comet]

My ISP has capped me at 20Mbps up and it is terrible for my server

So it's better than mine

[obtuse yew]

My upload and download are the same

About 900 on each end

[quasi moat]

spectrum gang

[obtuse yew]

I'm on gfiber

[icy comet]

Taking note of this

[obtuse yew]

They upgraded me to 3 gig for free recently too

Something about Des Moines being the first multi gig city

[ebon marlin]

Why did thermalright give me 2 different AMD mounting brackets

It was in the AMD baggie but it's not used in AMD mounting

[quasi moat]

sheesh

[cinder glen]

Free plastic!

[carmine yew]

is it an intel dupe?

[ebon marlin]

Maybe

But even the mounting guide is wrong wtf

[carmine yew]

It's possible they gave you an incorrect bracket in the packet

[obtuse yew]

It is Intel

Lga1700/1851 iirc

[carmine yew]

also 1200/115x

[ebon marlin]

Shows the brackets going up but it's physically not possible they have to be on the sides

This is annoying cuz this makes it annoying to install

I have to have one hand holding the backplate to install it

So it doesn't fall off

Screw you Thermalright

[obtuse yew]

Weird, the backplates for the peerless assassins have adhesive and the aios don't

[ebon marlin]

What are you talking about

I'm switching from a peerless assassin there was no adhesive

[obtuse yew]

The one I got had it

[muted spindle]

which gpu should i grab rtx 5060 8gb or 6900xt

[ebon marlin]

I even ordered a new peerless assassin couple weeks ago and it didn't have adhesive either

[ebon marlin]

6900xt is miles better in raster

Won't struggle with any games

I previously owned a 6800xt and 6950xt and they ran all my games at 1440p max settings

Played through Re4 Remake with the 6800xt at max settingd 1440p aswell

[obtuse yew]

Maybe it is just the Intel backplate? That would be weird but thermalright wouldn't care about that lmao

[ebon marlin]

Oh yea I do remember some Intel backplates having something weird on the back

[cinder glen]

I would pick 6900xt by a lot, but depends on what you are going to do ig

Minecraft has some insane performance mods that are exclusive to nvidia for example

[obtuse yew]

If you are team red you deserve no adhesive

[opaque loom]

Is now an OK time to sell my old GPU and buy another GPU? My local shop has good refurb prices well below ebay. I just wonder if it's a matter of prices ever plummeting in the near future.

[ebon marlin]

?

Yeah Intel has adhesive on it

Goddamn Pixel Fold rotating all my pictures 90⁰C

[obtuse yew]

Prolly something that one of the thermalright guys said

[ebon marlin]

Yeah but they also suck

[stoic nova]

GPU market is stabilized but still inflated.

[obtuse yew]

Glad I'm not the only one with that issue

[ebon marlin]

The Nvidia render mod won't allow you to use shaders so it's meh

[carmine yew]

does that cooler support 115x and 1200? or just 1700 and later?

[muted spindle]

there is much difrence beetwen 6800xt and 6900xt

[carmine yew]

yus

[opaque loom]

What do you think about the B50? I'd really like something blower and I can get one at MSRP.

[ebon marlin]

All 4

[stoic nova]

Worth

[ebon marlin]

1200/1151 and 1700/1851

[carmine yew]

then it should have two different backplates

[ebon marlin]

It has an universal one

[carmine yew]

blowers are evil in most situations

[muted spindle]

is good 6800xt 16gb for 300$?

[distant frigate]

https://www.lightreading.com/cable-technology/vyve-ventures-into-virtualization

[obtuse yew]

The backplate arms slide to accommodate for different sockets

[distant frigate]

Virtual CMTS, DAA and eventually DOCSIS 4.0 1.8 GHz

[carmine yew]

my PA120 SE had 2 backplates for intel

[opaque loom]

I have cooling limitations. As in there's a bulky 80-class NVIDIA GPU above it

[distant frigate]

Another cable operator going with 1.8 GHz ESD DOCSIS and not FDX 1.2 GHz

[carmine yew]

why do you need the B50, if you've got a beefy nvidia card?

[obtuse yew]

Mine had only one, it looks like they are very quickly changing the design though since the backplate I got was made of cheap plastic and the one he got seems to be metal

[ebon marlin]

Yeah aluminum I'm pretty sure

[carmine yew]

note: it used the same arms on both 1200 and 1700, but just two different back plates

[opaque loom]

My reasons are my own, I just need two GPUs.

[obtuse yew]

Weird

[ebon marlin]

Lossless scaling?

[obtuse yew]

A b50 for lossless would be crazy work

[opaque loom]

No, Virtualization.

[ebon marlin]

Ic

[opaque loom]

Any GPU is fine for me, I don't use SR-IOV.

[carmine yew]

I mean, as far as performance goes, you can see plenty of B50 benchmarks on youtube, so...

If you need it you need it. There aren't many blowers outside of server stuff, as you've noticed.

[opaque loom]

Perf hardly matters here, it just has to be modern. I'm wondering what you guys would pick for a low-er profile low power card? I can go higher end since my local shop sells a 9060 16 GB for 300$ which would be much better value in performance in exchange for needing to buy a PCIe riser as to not cook my GPUs.

[carmine yew]

gigabyte make a LP 5060

[opaque loom]

I can't really do NVIDIA because I'm on Linux and it's going to make my life harder.

I've used NVIDIA before, even after NVIDIA-open, I still really dislike it.

[stoic nova]

It only makes your life harder booting the proprietary driver

[carmine yew]

AMD hasn't done much in low profile, so if Green's out...

That means intel's about the only choice

[latent pasture]

rx 6400 raaah

[opaque loom]

Blackwell doesn't support the proprietary kernel module. NVIDIA-open isn't terrible but we still are missing VA-API support and Wayland isn't as nice as on other platforms.

[stoic nova]

The Wayland desktop experience used to be unstable if you used Nvidia as primary display. But now even WLR roots runs solid

Ah the times have outpaced you old man

I can respect those factors eliminating the possibility

[opaque loom]

I'm just telling you I have Ampere in this computer, when it does run on Linux I just have issue after issue. Getting more specific: Renderdoc didn't work on Wayland & suspend didn't work.

[gaunt spade]

https://tenor.com/view/pigeon-doctor-pigeon-doctor-walking-t-mobile-gif-7871406254764076813

[stoic nova]

For end user desktop uses I still tell people it's viable

[gaunt spade]

old ahh

[opaque loom]

What do you think of an A310 or A380 when theyre priced around 100-150 USD?

[carmine yew]

a trash gpu that shouldn't exist. and never should have in the first place

[gaunt spade]

https://giphy.com/gifs/speed-ishowspeed-abdullahaljashami-upyMs1HjqGAp5RCrHq

[carmine yew]

really solid little cards, especially good for the onboard encoders and such

[ebon marlin]

Or what about an RX 6400

[carmine yew]

I actually used to run an A380 in my desktop at work

[ebon marlin]

If you don't care about perf RX 6400 can be found for very cheap especially used

[latent pasture]

no encoder

[opaque loom]

Never heard of it. I'm limited to what my local shop supplies since their prices are really good. They have a wide selection but not that.

[serene python]

Computers were not supposed to have more than a few MB of ram

[ebon marlin]

Oh zamn

[gaunt spade]

6400 price is ahh

[obtuse yew]

6400s are more expensive than 6500xts

[carmine yew]

it's fine as a video out.
don't use it for anything more than a video out board.

[serene python]

The woke mob and their stupid Javascript frameworks

[stoic nova]

Doesn't Arc plug and play mesa

[hallow jasper]

No encoder is unimportant for most people. What about decode functionality.

[opaque loom]

The cost of 6400 is pretty bad on ebay. I can get better LP-GPUs at the shops for cheaper.

[ebon marlin]

I was thinking something was off with my AIO then after fully screwing in all the screws to secure the rad I realised I installed it the wrong way around

[obtuse yew]

Such is the way of installing thermalright aios

[gaunt spade]

like what

[opaque loom]

Yup. I've been very happy with Intel's Linux drivers.

[gaunt spade]

3050?

[cold skiff]

I have this with mine. I assume there is 2 different block designs.

As I have the frozen Warframe v2, I just guessed they bundled both with everything

[opaque loom]

The NVIDIA tax is really high right now. A 3050 would be atleast 200$ from the local shops. I mean the Arc A310/A380 or even a real 6600

[ebon marlin]

The cpu lcd block is detachable

[cold skiff]

Wait

Is it for orientation

[gaunt spade]

3050 200$ is a joke

[hallow jasper]

sometimes I think people don't know the difference

[cold skiff]

Do they go across different so you could orientate the block different?

[ebon marlin]

Apparently somehow Intel brackets got mixed up in my AMD bag

[opaque loom]

It's the NVIDIA tax.

[gaunt spade]

u can get 6700xt for that\

[cold skiff]

Nvidia tax?

[opaque loom]

Someone buying a 3050 is probably more likely to be lulled into buying NVIDIA for reasons other than perf.

[carmine yew]

depends:
the 3050 6GB is the most powerful slot-powered GPU on the market currently

[opaque loom]

I'm considering a B50, I could get so much GPU for the MSRP here. I do need some VRAM but not much. (It's not AI)

[gaunt spade]

does it have to be small?

[opaque loom]

It sits less than a couple cm from the fans of a 80-class NVIDIA GPU.

I'd say yes.

[cold skiff]

Should buy a 980ti

[carmine yew]

why an 11 year old GPU?!

[cold skiff]

6gb vram is all you need

[gaunt spade]

encoder

[carmine yew]

a 3050 6gb has newer encoders and all of them, plus more

[obtuse yew]

5050 low profile

[cold skiff]

Amd and Nvidia claim 8gb is plenty

[carmine yew]

does that exist for desktops yet, and is it slot powered?

[cold skiff]

Owning a 980ti is WAY cooler than owning a 3050

[obtuse yew]

Yes, same with the 5060 lp

[carmine yew]

5060 is not slot powered

[gaunt spade]

slot powered blud

no 8pin

[obtuse yew]

Oh wait I just found the 8 pin

It's in a weird spot

[latent pasture]

all the lp gpus so far of rtx 4000+ are that the same short 3 tinyfan design lol

[cold skiff]

The performance difference probably only like what 10% worse and a 980ti is way cooler

[latent pasture]

only figuratively cooler

cuz it uses 3-4x the power

[cold skiff]

Like double

[gaunt spade]

all the 4060 and 5060lps so overprice

[cold skiff]

And he said he only wants some vram. So 6gb is more than some

[latent pasture]

all sff are overprice

[elfin echo]

me still using a 1660 ti 😭

[carmine yew]

yeah, the 3050 8GB also uses an 8 pin PCIE power.

The 3050 6GB is the most powerful slot-powered GPU on the market still.

[gaunt spade]

5070 mini ftw

[cold skiff]

Go buy a 980ti

[obtuse yew]

I want that thing so bad

[elfin echo]

No! I keep my msi!

[latent pasture]

thats why the best "sff" cases are those that are as small as possible, but still fit matx mobo, fullsize psu, and 2/2.5slot full height 2fan gpu

[carmine yew]

why

[elfin echo]

overheating piece of red light

[cold skiff]

It’s cooler than a 1660ti

[gaunt spade]

5070 mini my beloved

[carmine yew]

not really

[latent pasture]

and its only like 1 inch more floor space than actual sff cases, the more size is in taller height

[elfin echo]

yeah...

[cold skiff]

And like margin of error in performance. And it’s cool

[elfin echo]

1660 ti mobile is cool tho

[carmine yew]

and your brain is cooked

[cold skiff]

I mean I dunno why anyone even buys a 5090 when you can get a 980ti

[stoic nova]

I like how ram without shrouds cost more than the RGB shrouds that make them too tall for air coolers

[obtuse yew]

What if instead of a 12vhp connector the 5090 just used 9 pcie slots

[cold skiff]

God giveth and god can taketh away. What god will never do, is deny you a 980ti

[cold skiff]

It wouldn’t work

[gaunt spade]

🦧

[latent pasture]

he denied me the money to 980ti

[obtuse yew]

Let me dream

[jaunty apex]

You literally asked

[opaque loom]

Anything pre-Turing from NVIDIA is completely off the table. Anything NVIDIA is not really being considered.

[obtuse yew]

Is this one of those places where I have to say I'm joking whenever I say something that I'm not serious about

[cold skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-joker-2008joker-gif-3556836502504816271

[gaunt spade]

imagine 8 of these

[blazing burrow]

Yo what's up chat, I got into Computer Engineering, and I need a new laptop because my mac from 6 years ago refuses to let me code, I was considering this laptop https://www.bestbuy.com/product/acer-predator-triton-14-pc-14-5-wqxga-120hz-intel-core-ultra-9-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-32-gb-ram-2-tb-ssd-pt14-52t-96t3-charcoal-black/JJ8V8HGJYP
my budget is roughly 2500 dollars before tax

[jaunty apex]

Its a server of chronically online people

[latent pasture]

massively fat L for 5070 at that price

[opaque loom]

Let me guess. Uni is screaming at you to get a ridiculously high end machine?

[blazing burrow]

No, I want to game on my free time

[latent pasture]

thats bestbuy so i assume usa
other brands are selling rtx 5080 laptops at $2500 price region while 5070s float around $1400-1700
with oled/miniled screens, ryzen/i9, metal bodies too

[opaque loom]

Sure, you could get an expensive laptop today for inflated prices. But you realistically wont need anything that Linux/Windows on your old Mac wont provide.

The most taxing thing you will be doing for the next two years is spice simulation and basic Autodesk CAD.

[blazing burrow]

It's a 2-in-1, which I'd appreciate because I want to ditch the notebooks

[opaque loom]

I just think it's a bad time considering RAM prices alone.

[latent pasture]

+$1000 to be foldable
bruh buy an ipad or something imo

[carmine yew]

Good night, game. You will soon be completely forgotten lol

[blazing burrow]

I rather have 1 device that can do it all

[latent pasture]

i mean if u think $1000 is a worthy payment to be foldable then go ahead lol

[opaque loom]

I get that. But I really want to emphasize RAM prices are high. If you wait until the crash, you'll be sure to get something with significantly better perf/$. The only problem is that you must be patient for a year or so.

RAM prices may not even follow the AI bubble since dedicated accelerators rather than GPUs could very well kill NVIDIA and their demand for HBM3e they provide.

[blazing burrow]

This would be my only computer I rather it do it all rather than having to buy multiple devices

[blazing burrow]

Yeah that's fair

[carmine yew]

the crash ain't gonna be this year

there's too many trillions spent already, and it'll take time for that to finish processing before the crash can happen

[opaque loom]

I said for a year. And the crash may be for GPU prices if any of these dedicated accelerator companies can actually ship something.

[carmine yew]

most people who need a computer can't just wait a year or more to get a better deal

[opaque loom]

I'm not putting any bets on the AI bubble but the NVIDIA bubble I think is separate and is trying to be popped by anyone with a hardware company.

[ebon marlin]

I accidentally fucked up my main ptm installation so I'm using the small scrap piece that I have would this suffice lmao

[opaque loom]

I want to emphasize that if they have a Mac already they may not need to upgrade.

[blazing burrow]

Yes it woulr

[ebon marlin]

Okay good thanks

My dumbass forgot to peel the plastic off the cpu block so the PTM got stuck to that

And it broke into many multiple pieces

[blazing burrow]

My mac can't code for some reason, I've had to code for previous comp sci classes and I would just have to hit the library

[opaque loom]

May I suggest Linux or Windows if it's pre-M1? It all depends on the value of money to you right now I guess. If you're well off then go ahead.

[elfin echo]

Should i retire my ps3's hdd?

[jaunty apex]

After doing a complete backup of anything important

[elfin echo]

can it do a second round of 18 years

[blazing burrow]

I'm well off enough to buy this and eat for a couple of months without working

[cold skiff]

That’s fine

[ebon marlin]

Okay

[cold skiff]

Most important part is covered - where ya ccd(s) are

[ebon marlin]

Oops accidentally clicked on an auto reply didn't even know what I sent

Very gud

[cold skiff]

Is it official Honeywell or Amazon cheapie

[ebon marlin]

Good enough for me

[cold skiff]

Oh it’s Helios

Doesn’t matter what you use for an am5 cpu tbh

[ebon marlin]

As long as I don't have to change paste annually I'm happy

[cold skiff]

I do every year tbh. But that’s only because I deep clean

[tidal geyser]

My gaming setup

[ebon marlin]

Couldn't be bothered personally

Too lazy

Too tired after work and too busy during weekends

[tidal geyser]

There, cable managed

[tidal geyser]

Wat

[ebon marlin]

I still see a cable

[tidal geyser]

Wireless is bad

[ebon marlin]

You're bad

[tidal geyser]

Use ptm

[ebon marlin]

I am

[cold skiff]

Got 3 kids and a cat. It needs it every year

[ebon marlin]

Got a cat but he doesn't shed any fur

[cold skiff]

Wireless electricity got Tesla killed

[clear canyon]

Bros just minding his own business

[ebon marlin]

We were pissing together

[cold skiff]

That’s… normal

[ebon marlin]

We're pissbros

[cold skiff]

Did you also sit down?

[clear canyon]

Sitting is for normies, i ascend

https://tenor.com/view/ascending-energy-galaxy-gif-17739196

[grizzled frost]

floating upside down and pissing on the ceiling is the only true way to piss

[cold skiff]

You should try that tonight

Let us know how it goes

[clear canyon]

Im doing it rn

[grizzled frost]

one weak mfer if you obey gravity

[clear canyon]

Gravity is for the poor and unworthy

[cold skiff]

There’s NASA sending a man to the moon and I’m struggling to push out a turd

[clear canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-8872922284431337007

[clear canyon]

You are not the honored one

[gleaming rose]

any of y'all familiar with crts

[cold skiff]

What’s crts

Carrots?

[clear canyon]

What part

Bro 😭

[gleaming rose]

I have this monochrome CRT monitor that has a rapidly jumping image

[cold skiff]

Oh a CRT monitor

[gleaming rose]

Seems to get better when I use a PAL signal instead of a NTSC one

[cold skiff]

Oh yeah if that’s broke it’s broke

[gleaming rose]

not necessarily

[clear canyon]

Ngl, its been like 17 years since i last messed with out, i cant help, sorry

[gleaming rose]

its actually in good shape I just think the capacitors are worn out

[elfin echo]

why the hell is it blue if its supposed to be snowfall

[cold skiff]

I dunno what you’re on about

[elfin echo]

i guess my wonky adapter explains

[ebon marlin]

Yeah mate nevermind guess I'm not peeling that off then

[cold skiff]

But that wallpaper is a 1970s throw back I am on board with

[elfin echo]

yes this was kids room in 70s i think

old house!

[ebon marlin]

Bro it happened again with another peel wtf Thermalright

[cold skiff]

It’s beautiful that

Storage conditions are not* Thermalright problems

[clear canyon]

Thermalwrong

[ebon marlin]

Thermalfuckyouright

[cold skiff]

Thermalstrong

[elfin echo]

finnish "how to build a house" tutorial vhs

ill need it

[ebon marlin]

NOT AGAIN

[cold skiff]

VHS ftw

At this point, you’re doing something wrong catto

[ebon marlin]

I'm not

[cold skiff]

You’re tearing faster and harder than an 80w 96mm fan

[ebon marlin]

I was going slow

[cold skiff]

What AIO did ya get

[elfin echo]

one of more rare salora models

the fact it works perfectly

salora is peak

[ebon marlin]

Peerless Vision 360

[cold skiff]

Noice

The TR software is so bad I don’t even use the screen

[ebon marlin]

Heard about that

[cold skiff]

It’s so bad you’d think Nvidia vibe coded it

[ebon marlin]

Also got this

Tomorrow I'm gonna go pick up another Rtx 5070 to replace my current one

[vivid tendon]

Ti?

[ebon marlin]

Basic 5070

There's an Aorus Master model for very cheap I'll replace it with mine

Mine is a basic windforce model

[vivid tendon]

good choice there

[ebon marlin]

I can sell my current 5070 for more than the Aorus Master model

Aorus Master is 475€ and I can quick sell the Windforce model for 500€

[queen spire]

My PC is idling at 91 why is that?

[vivid tendon]

yeah U can

[ebon marlin]

Pump possibly dead

[vivid tendon]

water flow issue

[queen spire]

I haven’t even had it for a year though

[ebon marlin]

Aios are very unreliable

They can just die any second

They're a ticking timebomb

[queen spire]

Damn is there warranties and stuff for that?

[ebon marlin]

Yes

The aios own warranty

[steel umbra]

Why does a muesli bar have less fibre than a chocolate bar

[vivid tendon]

yeah if they r of realiable brands

[steel umbra]

and the same amount of sugar

[queen spire]

Rog is reliable, right?

[vivid tendon]

yeah enough reliable

u might need the bills and so on

[ebon marlin]

not really

[queen spire]

[ebon marlin]

Asus is known for deliberately breaking RMA stuff to reject RMA's

the fuck does this mean

[vivid tendon]

well in the end u have to try it on ur own

[rain granite]

https://www.amazon.es/AMD-Ryzen-7800X3D-desenfrenados-Arquitectura/dp/B0BTZB7F88

good cpu?

[ebon marlin]

Yea

Gem of a cpu

[tulip sparrow]

FIANLLY!!!! https://www.androidauthority.com/fcc-considers-limits-on-telecom-foreign-call-centers-3646925/

[abstract wigeon]

this thing is sick for emulation (of games which I have ripped myself from consoles which I bought, own, and modded and which i paid full price first hand for)

[serene python]

??

[jaunty apex]

Damn bloodborne works on deck now sick

Those devs really want that game on pc I guess

[jaunty apex]

He also pointed to concerns about protecting consumers’ personal information when customer service operations are based overseas. no way lol

[gray sierra]

w guy w game

[abstract wigeon]

through a ps4 emulator, performance not terrible, can hit 30 most of time with common dips into 20s

on a proper pc ive heard it runs incredibly smooth though

[exotic cape]

@gray sierra you are in TC1, is everything good?

[gray sierra]

fell out with tc2

[exotic cape]

Happens sometimes.

[mortal mantle]

how does a brand new Windows 10 install have Windows Defender missing a engine lol

[empty quartz]

Mrrp :3

[empty quartz]

Its windows

[jaunty apex]

uWu

caps moment

[jaunty apex]

The wall of portable Playstations

.. whos taking the picture

[elfin echo]

ttthe blue is.. so good..

[spring latch]

epstein offers a diamond

[unique aspen]

Yall

my ram dealer actually got arrested

[jaunty apex]

Ugh I love these displays

They need to make more of them

I don't care that its harder or more expensive I love VFDs

[solid aspen]

was this in one of the hacking labs ? lol

[exotic cape]

Check Elgiganten or Power, not Amazon.

Or ffs komplett

[empty quartz]

Chat

Im tempted to buy a macbook neo (even though i already have a macbook pro m1 max)

[exotic cape]

Well do it then

Max gaming?

[rocky acorn]

my thinkpad is apparently closer than i thought to a macbook neo/iphone than a "real computer"

this freaks me out

like wtf

didn't even leave the gpu alone

[exotic cape]

https://www.proshop.se/Naetverkskabel/Hama-Network-Cable-Cat6A-10GbitS-UUtp-Flat-White-15m-Vit-15-meter/3376006

[frosty gyro]

anyone that knows what theyre on about please tell me what this error is, i cant use my aio software

[exotic cape]

@random gyro https://www.proshop.se/Naetverkskabel?pre=0&f~netvaerkskabler_cable-category=cat-6a&f~netvaerkskabler_length=15-m

Amazon is American, dont buy american

[olive oriole]

youre quite dutch

[exotic cape]

Kanker Dutch people

[topaz shale]

what if i am in america

[exotic cape]

Sucks to be you

[jaunty apex]

Germanian

[exotic cape]

Where I can i try to not buy american

[jaunty apex]

Canada

Wait..

[exotic cape]

It's hard when at the top of the chain everything is owned by BlackRock or Blackstone or any of the other black companies

[topaz shale]

its everything

[exotic cape]

Lego is soon owned by blackstone

[topaz shale]

the factory of whatever you want to buy is owned by BlackRock

[exotic cape]

As of 27th of February, LEGO is being owned by Merlin entertainment, which is partly owned by blackstone

[obtuse yew]

Someone is salty they don't have a microcenter

If you are covering a long distance you also need to keep track of the cable type but aside from that there is really nothing else

[exotic cape]

What is a micro senter?

[jaunty apex]

I don't like the old people running it

[iron glen]

computer store

actually i wouldnt know im european

[exotic cape]

Oh, yea we don't have those in the europas

We all have to order online

Packages gets delivered by pigeons

Center is a banging chocolate

[iron glen]

why

idk i'd js go with the cheapest one

they don't differ much iirc besides hz and stuff

[tulip sparrow]

Amazon basics works just fine personally

I use a long one for my pc to capturecard(VR headset)

Zero issues with it

[obtuse yew]

From what I am reading, for the length you are using you might want to look into fiber optics

[jaunty apex]

I don't trust amazon basics really. Not for cabling at least, I did get their 65w charging bricks though a few years ago, paired with ugreen/formerly anker cables ran my Pinecil just fine. Better than those crappy non adjustable soldering irons from amazon or crafts stores. But that's power, not data obviously. Works well enough for a consumer for data in my experience though, the ugreen/anker ones. Wrong topic lol

[topaz shale]

why the hell would you want fiber hdmi

sounds like a scam

[ebon marlin]

it is a scam

[topaz shale]

youll probably be limited by the speed of your ports before your hdmi cable unless you have a NEW, top spec display

[austere pendant]

yeah lol

[obtuse yew]

He is running an 8 meter cable to a 4k 240hz display

[topaz shale]

24k gold plated fiber hdmi cable extreme shielding 1 million dollars

[hallow jasper]

All that matters is the Ultra High Speed logo. If you can find optical cables with it, great. Just ensure its officially rated for Ultra High Speed spec. Currently the top rating for HDMI cables.

[topaz shale]

just get an hdmi 2.1 / 2.2 cable and call it a day.

8 meter is what, like 30 feet?

[hallow jasper]

30 feet for 4K120/144 will need to be optical

[topaz shale]

oh damn, thought that was only past 100 ft

[obtuse yew]

Isn't 100 feet the cutoff for when you need to start using active signal boosting or something?

[topaz shale]

i think thats what it is actually yeah

[obtuse yew]

The amount of reviews stating the cable shat itself after a few months scares me a little

[high pier]

Is this combo compatible with my asus m515d https://a.co/d/07AioGAI https://a.co/d/0dGxwHni

[obtuse yew]

This one seems decent, the only gripe I'm seeing is that the cable is stiff
https://a.co/d/01QiChyh

[solid aspen]

Gave me an idea on what to do with the rubber ducky we got from those labs lol

[junior merlin]

There's a couple rigs on the market I'm trying to choose between.

My options are $650 for a 5800X, 32GB RAM, 3TB SSD, and RX 6600.

Or $400 for an i3 12100F, 16GB RAM, 1TB NVME, and an RX 6600XT.

[obtuse yew]

Where do you live to have such good prices

[carmine yew]

they're both not bad.
do you know if the 12100 is DDR4 or 5

[junior merlin]

DDR4

[junior merlin]

Classified

[carmine yew]

then I'd say toss up.

The extra CPU Power, RAM and SSD space is worth the 250. (Even with the slight gpu downgrade)

an extra 16GB D4 will be at least 75-100 bucks
2TB Storage is... way too much.

And the 5800x is def beefier than a 12100

[junior merlin]

It's also an X570 versus a H610M

[austere pendant]

I was surprised they gave them out for free

[hallow jasper]

this is good to see since I have a 5800x/32GB/RX6600 system I need to think about selling

and I'm clueless with the used market for pricing

[junior merlin]

Yeah, used market is super weird rn

[hallow jasper]

not in the Philadelphia area are ya? 😆

[junior merlin]

..... uhhhh

[solid aspen]

I mean. Free is a stretch. The cost of the ticket lol

[junior merlin]

Are you?

[lean wyvern]

guys what should I do with this useless school laptop? should I just install linux on it or what

[hallow jasper]

I am. Suburbs, north. Montgomery/Bucks area

[junior merlin]

Hmmmm

PM?

[austere pendant]

That was also free for me lol

But they do refund the ticket if you past their cyber hero test

[solid aspen]

ah didnt know this, didnt even sign for that...

btw you can get a 2nd rubber ducky today if you go to the advance one, however there ar eno more laptops or seats

[elfin echo]

why need newest tech if a vcr from 1988 does it all so well

a pure steel giant (i glaze old shi because theyre so peak)

[frail sequoia]

is that a late 80's/early 90's vhs/vcr player?

[empty quartz]

Mrrrp :3

[empty quartz]

Vhs is not peak