tech-chat-1

[brave brook]

spray paint it ? Or put on white vinyl ?

[vital zenith]

I have a sandwich case so behind is the GPU chamber with another open side . I could probably jam it back there. I was going to stick it up in a hidden spot in the top of the case but this case has an LCD add on you can install there i was thinking of later so it's just sitting next to the GPU in a sad pile of cables.

[mortal venture]

Tbh I like old cases more
You can paint it, cut it, weld it or anything to make it batter

[vital zenith]

They make white hubs now I was just disgusted they shipped a black one with the white fan kit.

I think I'm going to stick it up where the LCD screen isn't since I haven't invested in it I just have to figure out what to do with all the cables.

The Thermaltake TR100 was a decent choice for a first build for me and I picked it because I like the blue it came in really and nothing else was speaking to me but it's one of those both sides mesh sandwich cases where there's no good place to manage cables.

[brave brook]

sad pile of cables is what i did in A3-mATX 'ewaste' (>8 years old parts) system 😄

[clear canyon]

A flex

[frigid blade]

I found an older kit of Vengeance LPX 2x8gb 3600 ddr4 and I can’t believe some are selling close to $200

[vital zenith]

Part of me wants to be insane about cable clean cable management and custom cables and stuff but I went a case route that basically doesn't have a back. XD

[fickle ivy]

I love getting free broken tech from my friends that I can fix and use for myself

[frigid blade]

I used to have a 4x8 build but I took 2 out because I had some instability and I found them in a drawer

[brave brook]

the RAM in the ewaste system in picture above is $800 😄

[frigid blade]

Can’t even see the ram in it lol

Is it like ECC d4?

[brave brook]

4x 32GB DDR4-2133 ECC Registered. Goes for around $200/module

[frigid blade]

Yah that’s what I thought, they’re expensive

[vital zenith]

I ordered most of my parts last May when we were expecting the US tarifs to destroy the maket immenently and it didn't get that bad but now the Ram and storage crisis is here I checked my PC part picker list and the parts price had gone up 2.5x in 7 months.

[brave brook]

got them for 88GBP including shipping (around 105 euros?)

[frigid blade]

8 years ago?

[brave brook]

a year ago

[frigid blade]

Ah ok, I thought it was just an old build you had from a while ago

[frigid blade]

Yah, back when it was cheap

[brave brook]

the parts were old. The system as it is is new 🙂

[frigid blade]

I have a similar situation with my main rig, I bought 4x48gb 6800 dimms for $2XX total, today a single kit sells for $700 used

[vital zenith]

So thankful I caught DDR5 right when it was coming down to something more reasonable for a hot second there.

[brave brook]

i mean CPU, GPU were old parts; RAM was a pull i bought from ebay, PSU was few years old, Noctua fans are decade old. Case, fan controller are new

Motherboard is like 2 year old china X99 board

[vital zenith]

At least they're all black. XD

[frigid blade]

If NWR can fix my 2x64 kit, I will just sell the 4x48

[brave brook]

i mean it's a nonmodular PSU, so 🤷‍♂️

[frail sequoia]

hi

[brave brook]

plus A3 mATX has zero cable management features

[vital zenith]

That's not bad at all in that case XD

[brave brook]

case was bigger (i mean longer) than i expected to be fair

[spring latch]

there is a funny thing you can do if you dont wanna write a font for an OS
if you're in legacy mode, you can ask the BIOS to give you the data of the memory address that the system font is located
and use that as the font
its a neat trick that works well

[frigid blade]

The ddr5 heatsinks/enclosures aren’t as good looking as ddr4 was

[brave brook]

and i was thinking about AP201, which is even bigger

[vital zenith]

I can't figure out what to do with the extra legnth on the cables I am using for my PSU because most of the runs are actually so short in the sandwich case they're just flopping around on top in plain view

[frigid blade]

Oh that’s cool, armour crate can update bios for you without needing USB

[warm anvil]

3 episodes worth of logging

so like an hour

[vital zenith]

I keep wondering why Thermaltake put the motherboard in upside down instead of right side up on the other side and the GPU vertical upside down but I guess theoretically they think the left chamber is the front like a fish tank case so they put the GPU in there? The fact the PSU and the motherboard are both upside down on the right side and that's the side I look at in my set up is funny to me.

[brave brook]

thinking about it, the fans and RAM was probably the most expensive part in that system:
Machinist E5-K9 was around 66 euros new
2699v3 was 45 euros
4x32GB DDR4-2133 ECC REG wes 110 euros
PSU was 50 euros used
250GB SSD was 20 euros
1080 Ti was 70 euros, plus 40 euros for the aftermarket cooler.
case was 80 euros
Corsair fan controller was 45 euros
😄

[frail sequoia]

windows 7 spotted

[spring latch]

thx for spotting it

[brave brook]

they need that info, they lost the WB bid war

[lunar sail]

Is there any way to make it so that a trackpad can emulate click and drag without having to be pushed down. Ive got a new laptop and I like the trackpad except when having to push it down to click and drag. It makes working on it and especially gaming alot harder. Does anyone have any guidance?

[vital zenith]

Before I put it together I thought those Asus RGB PSU's were so extra and then after I put this system together I was like Oh those are for this exact situation I guess.

[spring latch]

tap to click exists

should be a setting

[lunar sail]

ive got these which allow me to click, but I cant drag

its just a click and immediate release

[vital zenith]

Yeah tap to click or double tap to click has been a thing since Windows 7 it depends on your track pad drivers sometimes.

[lunar sail]

hold up. you double tap but then, hold instead on the second press

Thats really cool (im a laptop noob somehow, cant believe I didnt know that)

[vital zenith]

I had a 1st gen Asus Zenbook that had special drivers that would crash outsometimes after a major windows update and break all the gestures and things until you reinstalled the driver package but it had windows 7 and had tap to click.

[brave brook]

i got a 750W Loki i haven't used yet. But the "barely used" deal was too good to pass for 750W SFX PSU with 12VHPWR

[lunar sail]

Still, would prefer if there was a way to do it with just 2 fingers no double tap

Like scrolling

[left dove]

not all touchpads support the feature.

[lunar sail]

my touchpad supports 1,2,3 and 4 finger gesture controls

[left dove]

idk its probably some gay driver feature that didn't get enabled

[lunar sail]

2 finger tap is right click, but idk what I can do to enable like. 2 finger drag to move

[vital zenith]

Yeah if the price is right. It wasn't at all but it turns out the PSU is in primary viewing in my set up now. I used a heat gun to loosen the glue on the badge on the Cooler Master PSU I have becasue it was upside down.

I was able to flip it easily but I forgot it was a metal object and when I pressed it back on with my bare hands I burned my fingers a little.

[lunar sail]

I don't even know what the feature is called yet to check. I feel like theres a good chance I just havent found it or something

2 finger drag would be an absolute gamechanger for me so I would really like to figure out how to get it setup!

[brave brook]

go to mouse settings ? If there are such features, they will be in advanced features control panel, extra tabs.

or here

[lunar sail]

Ive got this but IDK where im supposed to be looking

This was how I enabled tap with two fingers to right-click which is super super useful

[formal sonnet]

As others have said, if your trackpad supports what you are asking for, the setting would appear where you are looking.

[brave brook]

look on right side of the picture - advanced gesture configuration ?

[spring latch]

tbh for gaming you really should use an external mouse

[lunar sail]

casual gaming like stardew

[spring latch]

its still extrmeely useful

[vital zenith]

Thinking about if there's any usable space to out a little friend inside. The headspace is mostly hidden by the side panels because you can out an AIO up there.

I think that's about the only spot available on this side and you can barely appreciate him.

[lunar sail]

This only shows 3/4 finger gestures

[brave brook]

so you complain about black corsair fan controller, but not about black motherboard or black connectors of the PSU cables ?

[lunar sail]

Well yeah I get that, but ive got a gaming PC. If im going to situp in bed and use a mouse I might aswell go onto my desk chair imo. Also a mouse isnt really an option during lectures for example

[lunar sail]

I see no reason why it couldnt support it, even if its with a third-party app (which I wouldn't mind).#

[brave brook]

go to the mouse control panel, some things could be there too

[urban dune]

how do i control my razer devices on linux

[vital zenith]

I am also regretful about not splurging on the only white AM5 mITX motherboard available at the time but it's really not visible under the cooler with the panel on. The black connector ends are also annoying and contributing to my disarisfactionwith this situation with the fan controller.

[brave brook]

2 seconds on google - https://openrazer.github.io/ ?

[lunar sail]

Where would I find that? 🥺

[vital zenith]

It does not photograph but with the naked eye you can also seek the little pile of cable shame through the non removable front grill too

[brave brook]

you could velcro it to the top front ?

[gaunt spade]

fan controller in the big 26

[brave brook]

like mouse has additional mouse settings ?

[vital zenith]

At least the motherboard was a choice I made. Corsair charged extra for white fans and then it was a surprise to open them up and there was a black hub in there.

[urban dune]

paint it

[lunar sail]

Cant find anything here that seems to indicate this feature. The main thing is it would be great to know what the feature is called as that would allow me to download something third-party perhaps

[vital zenith]

I think I'm going to double sided tape the controller up there to the back of the blue part where it won't show

[urban dune]

or u could paint it

[vital zenith]

I'm afraid to get paint in the ports

[frigid blade]

Can’t put it in the back?

[vital zenith]

The back side is actually the front to me at my desk.

[urban dune]

i guess you could put like tape over the ports then paint it and peel the tape

[vital zenith]

The front IO board and cables and the SSD are filling in the not immediately visible space on the reverse side of the case from where the fan controller is currently hanging out

There's cutouts in the central spine of the case so if I try to jam it behind the PSU you'll still see it from this side

[ivory sorrel]

I’m trying to get a magsafe power bank to stop sliding around on my phone. Would a couple strips of electrical tape be a good solution?

[vital zenith]

If you think the little extra friction from the rubbery tape would make a difference maybe. The slight extra thickness might reduce the magnet attraction a little though. Depends how strong the magnet is. It's just tape you could try it and take it off if it doesn't help.

[gaunt spade]

put 2 small fans there

[ivory sorrel]

The main magnet’s plenty strong, it’s just the one that keeps it from twisting that tends to lose its grip, which then makes the corner stick out and lets it get knocked off. I did stick a folded microfiber cloth between the case and the bank to make sure it’d still stick fine and it didn’t cause an issue

[vital zenith]

There's no mounting points but if airflow was an issue for this case it would be an interesting mod. There's even a dust filter.

I considered putting some white plasterboard in there to just block it.

[gaunt spade]

double sided tape

[gaunt spade]

block airflow?

[jovial swan]

Ive found perfect laptop now

Model: Lenovo ThinkPad T15 Gen 2i
⚙️ CPU: Intel Core i7-1185G7 @ 3.00GHz
🧠 RAM: 16 GB
💾 Lager: 512 GB NVMe SSD
🎮 Grafik: NVIDIA GeForce MX450 (2GB dedikeret) + Intel Iris Xe

All for 2400 DKK
@tidal geyser

[jovial swan]

DKK

[vital zenith]

It would but the case has two mesh sides with intake from CPU fan on one side and GPU on the other, a fill mesh bottom on little feet, and two 140 exhaust fans on top so I wouldn't be hurting to sacrifice a little bit.

[gaunt spade]

wat case is it

[vital zenith]

Longer term my pan is to maybe upgrade form Ryzen 5 9600x to a Ryzen 7 something X3D if pricing is ever a little better. Possibly switch from air cooling to a 280 AIO if needed at that point. This is the theoretical future where Elder Scrolls 6 finally comes out.

[gritty panther]

my carrier just offered a sweet deal with the S26 ultra. I bought my dad one

[vital zenith]

Thermaltake TR100 Hydrangea blue. It's kind of interesting. It's kind of a big SFF case because they made it with space for a 280 AIO on top and it can accommodate pretty large GPUs.

[gaunt spade]

oh ive seen that

i like the blue thermaltake stuff

[vital zenith]

Yeah!

[gaunt spade]

with the screen?

i really liked it but its hella expensive

[gritty panther]

the new cases are pretty cool

more colors too

[vital zenith]

I did not get the little screen. I have considered it but I didn't think it needed more flashing stuff than all the RGB I already have in it. Maybe at some point.

[gritty panther]

I bought two screens from thermalright

they're not very expensive tho. $50 and $35 lol

[gaunt spade]

where

🥀🥀

[gritty panther]

Amazon. they're called trofeo

[gaunt spade]

oh the screen

i thought u meant the case 😭

[gritty panther]

just the screen lol

they have built in magnets in the back. works great on all metal cases

you just put it wherever lol

[vital zenith]

The official Thermaltake kit they sell for this case is like $90 USD I think

[gritty panther]

Thermalright is pretty goated

I'm amazed how good and cheap their products are

[gaunt spade]

bought this fan for 11 cents

[gritty panther]

I am enjoying the two screens I bought. it's barely over $80

[vital zenith]

I haven't been $90 interested in it yet and doing setup/ custom animation for it. Maybe if I run across one for half price at some point

[gaunt spade]

expensive

[vital zenith]

It's pricy for a little screen. The base case does come with the color matched frame panel for it through.

So I have that matched to the blue if I ever one to get it or rig up a different one.

[wet ember]

Best feature of Gigabyte motherboards. Reminds me of changing EQ settings in a car

[vital zenith]

Thermalright has been killing it. The case is Thermaltake but my air cooling is Thermalright. I needed an under 66mm cooler so it was them or Noctua and Noctua is ... Brown and twice as expensive so I was super pleased to get an all white, RGB 60mm cooler for like $30 USD from Thermalright.

[gaunt spade]

wich psu is it

thermaltake sfx?

toughpower?

[gritty panther]

it's hard to compete with thermalright around

[vital zenith]

I ended up with a Cooler Master 650 SFX PSU. Case also takes SFXL

[gritty panther]

not even kidding but china numba one

[frigid blade]

Software EQ 👎

[wet ember]

Harman Kardon 👍

[vital zenith]

I had a red dragon ordered but canceled it when Cooler Master came back in stock. White SFX PSU options are limited.

[wet ember]

Damn I really wish my E90 had Harman Kardons

[gaunt spade]

just tt cableties?

[wet ember]

My sister's VW has them

[vital zenith]

Yeah the Thermaltake case came with a roll of branded white cable Velcro.

Which was nice.

[gaunt spade]

i see ur not running watercooling

why so

[woven wigeon]

Guess when was this thing made

[vital zenith]

Not at this time. I'm only running a Ryzen 5 9600X right now which is only 65w and the case has open air access on the side for air cooling which was also cheaper. I have two 140mm fans on top exhausting the whole case instead.

If I upgrade my processor in the future I might go for an AIO but there's not a lot of point investing in an expensive AIO pump that will eventually fail when I don't really need to redirect a lot of heat to a radiator.

[fickle ivy]

Turns out it wasn't broken at all

[ivory mountain]

w time waste

[fickle ivy]

Zero stick drift??

Well basically zero

[ivory mountain]

very expensive for some mid ram

[vital zenith]

AIO support for the Thermaltake TR100 is also more limited than it at first appears. You can fit 240mm or 280mm but they can't be super thick so only some will fit (especially if you want a white one). Thermaltake of course makes one that fit but they're not super cheap.

[fickle ivy]

Oh my god it reliably centers on 0.00002

[woven wigeon]

i have like a logitech z313 speaker setup and it has a subwoofer and the problem is that when im listening to music my roomate is angry because 60 euro speakers vibrate the hell out of 60 euro miliwatt levels of sound output aha heeadphones, and like any way to like make the bass not spread through the air so i hear bass while it dont vibrate the room?

[vital zenith]

I'm not doing anything too crazy right now with my system that requires maximum power and maximum cooling and I was actually considering just buying a Mini PC when switching from an ultra portable but aging laptop setup to a desktop setup with a monitor last year. I hedged my butts with a good price on an efficient Ryzen 5 9600x and future AM5 upgrade options for CPU and cooling when I'll probably want more power if Bethesda ever releases Elder Scrolls 6. In the meantime I can finally run the majority of games and I don't play FPS or competitive stuff.

[vital zenith]

Did they just not calibrate it? Or was there maybe a crumb in there that's shifted?

[fickle ivy]

It's pretty old

My friend just gave it to me

It's from 2013 so it's kinda crazy that it reliably centers that good

[vital zenith]

Did they say what they thought was wrong with it?

[shy basalt]

Should I connect my gpu with a 600w cable or a pcie cable

[vital zenith]

Is it a power from board card?

[gaunt spade]

would look better tho

[vital zenith]

Cards usually need a PCIE connection either directly slotting into the motherboard or with a PCIE riser cable and then either need additional power cord from PSU or not if they are low power cards that can just draw motherboard power.

[gaunt spade]

do you know any sff case wich would support a 360mm aio and a sfx psu

[vital zenith]

A little? The thing is if I switch to an AIO then you will be able to see more of my black motherboard in there. :P

[gaunt spade]

true

[vital zenith]

I don't know of any that take a 360mm AIO. By that point the whole case is getting to be pretty large and not so SFX anymore but there might be some really specialized ones. The smaller the case and tight the configuration the more limited you are on parts though. Like there are some really precise SFX cases but some of them are pretty much only compatible with specific parts they were designed for.

[vital zenith]

I could be crazy and buy a white motherboard too but I don't know what I'd do with the one i have now. I'd consider building a new system to sell except for RAM and storage prices being insane. Perhaps if things get better. I do have a sibling maybe eventually will need a new system I can pass it to.

[glacial cliff]

theres a bunch that support multiple 240/280 rads. but singular 360s is tough. a handful of them have extenders/external mounts that support it, like i think some of the ssupd ones have brackets to huck a 360 on the outside

[rigid fjord]

fake lian li fans huh?

[vital zenith]

For now though, there's no real reason for me to water cool my system. We actually had to replace the little single fan AIO in my sibling's NZXT system with an air cooler last year because the pump had died and luckily I'd just gotten comfortable parts shopping and cracking things open. I don't understand why on earth they even put an AIO that small in a configuration that could support an air cooler venting directly out the same side pannel.

I assume they charged more for "water cooling" on that prebuilt but it was so silly.

[glacial cliff]

fake lian li fans missing the best part of lian li fans, the interconnected single cable bit

[vital zenith]

Hey if they work for you they're pretty.

[gaunt spade]

not really

just generic argb fans

[gaunt spade]

yea it was basicly free

i get these deals all the time so ill just buy them and slowly have enough for a build

regularly its 1$ but thats too much

[vital zenith]

Are you doing one with a bunch of fans?

[rigid fjord]

more of the click together part is what it's missing where you can basically use a single cable to control 4 fans at a time

[gaunt spade]

those cost like 4-5 $

[glacial cliff]

i mean thedy do look like they are attempting to mimic lian li fans quite closely

[rigid fjord]

yes really, it's copying the look of the lian li unifan infinites

[glacial cliff]

thats what i meant by interconnected, yes

[rigid fjord]

the only one with a different take on how they connect together is arctic with their bionix p120 argb's

[vital zenith]

If you can hide the cables in your case and they work OK that's worth it.

[gaunt spade]

theres so mamy that i dont even call non 1-1 replicas copies

[vital zenith]

The fact my cats can block my CPU intake with their butts is just an added feature of air cooling. XD

I kind of figured they'd sit on top of the case but that hasn't happened yet to my shock.

[rigid fjord]

many are a clone of a clone of a clone, like many no name cheap chinese pc cases

[glacial cliff]

for a specific definition of worth it, sure.

i for example, don't go in for the visual aesthetics on fans whatsoever, and the only reason lean lian li uni over noctuas with that in mind is the ease of instillation and cabling. without those perks, i'd as soon buy a bunch of brown/beige noctuas

[vital zenith]

If you don't care about the aesthetics you definitely wouldn't be buying RGB fans period I think.

Then again for 11 cents you might

[glacial cliff]

do lian li uni fans make a non rgb variant? i'll have to look into it

[vital zenith]

I've never seen fans that cheap before unless they were free pre-installed in a case.

[rigid fjord]

it's more that it becomes 6-8 cables vs 1-2 cables in total and not just for aesthetics but actual decent cable management and fan setup

[vital zenith]

But if you don't care about the aesthetics why do you care how many cables they have?

[rigid fjord]

i believe there might be one

[glacial cliff]

dont forget the fan cable splitter/hub and possible an argb splitter/hub to handle all those cables! doubtful the motherboard has an overabundance of headers for 1 per header

[rigid fjord]

because many don't use fans that can daisy chain, and end up using either a large hub or mutliple hubs

[vital zenith]

If you don't care about the aesthetics and you want the cheapest fans you can get a few extra cables to tuck away and a fan hub for 11 cents per fan could be worth it.

[glacial cliff]

i never said i wanted cheap fans i said i wanted ease of instal/cable managing, which is why i prefasced my usecase with "for a certain definition of worth it" and then used myself as an example of not worth it

[rigid fjord]

1 header can handle around 6-8 fans realistically when it comes to the argb side, but on the actual fan header side, at best 4 fans per header but ideally you don't want to do more than 3 fans per header

[glacial cliff]

my time is valuable, and saved time of my headache installing is worth a little extra money

[glacial cliff]

-yes, which needs a splitter/hub, as i said

wiuth / meaning or in this case, not and

[rigid fjord]

240 leds per argb header

[vital zenith]

I only needed two big fans for my case so I got some Corsair ones but if I were doing one of those 6+ fan builds that would be a lot of money for just fans to go name brand.

[glacial cliff]

my 3 boxes of lian li uni 3-packs for that ease of use do agree it was a hefty hit to the pocketbook

[rigid fjord]

corsair fans cost a chunk tbh, but for mass fan usage i'd always go with arctic, 5 fans for 30-40 total is a no brainer

[glacial cliff]

i needed seven fans damnit, and nowhere had 1-packs in stock at the time so i had to buy a 3rd 3-pack. 😭

[urban blade]

🐈🐈🐈🐈🐈🐈

[rigid fjord]

i think the sl unifans are the closest to non-argb lian li gets close to

[vital zenith]

Clip together fans are awesome but they're still generally pricy and I'm also a proponent of 1/20 the price and looks pretty.

[vital zenith]

That's a one sentence horror story.

[rigid fjord]

reasons why i said arctic being the relevant alternative

1/2 to 2/3's the cost of the lian li uni fans

[vital zenith]

Could have put in 6 that matched and one Noctua fan in the middle somewhere like a statement. 🤣

[glacial cliff]

eyyyyyyyo thats what i had 😄

[glacial cliff]

valid, as we both said and agreed on, there are use cases where those 11 cent fans are a massive W. just not for everyone is all i was trying to clarify 🙂

[rigid fjord]

i can get 2x 3 packs of the arctic p120 argb's for the price of 1x 3 pack of those unifans

[glacial cliff]

Have the rest of the horror story.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/GwenBD94/saved/3BjJyc

[rigid fjord]

though my personal fav's are arctic p12 pwm pst's

[vital zenith]

I assume at $99 for a single 3 pack to begin with you're really committed to those specific fans.

[glacial cliff]

and that is the final chapter of the horror story

[rigid fjord]

30-40 for a pack of 5 of these

daisychainable because of this

[glacial cliff]

indeed i was, i wanted the single-cable interlocking design.

and at the time of that build, lian li uni fans were still relatively new and there weren't 100 well-done alternative options

[gaunt spade]

i can buy 50 fans for 55$

[rigid fjord]

at the time of lian li sl and al line releases, arctic was the only alternative with the p120 argb's

[vital zenith]

I want to see LTT do a 50 fan build

[naive temple]

temu warrior

[rigid fjord]

the second image is how the fans interconnect for the arctic bionix p120 argb's

[vital zenith]

Is that knockoff Corsair Vengence RAM in the product photo too?

[glacial cliff]

it would have been 3 lian lis in the front, 3 lian lis in the bottom, and one noctua on the rear.

you did catch me in a good point, while i claiemd to not care about aesthetics, i should have been mroe specific, i meant in general. The aesthetics I do care about in some cases is uniformity, and the fans matching was important to me (important enough to essentially spend $100 on 1 fan, for example)

[vital zenith]

It looks like mine but the printing is illegible and not the little ship.

[glacial cliff]

yep i remember looking at the arctic alternative and preferring lian li's ease of use

[rigid fjord]

aesthetics wise, i have little care of that, for me it's good cable management that's key, especially when it comes to troubleshooting later on

the less cables you need to go through, the better

[vital zenith]

Honestly that fan connector design kind of terrifies me. That's so many exposed pins. It probably works but I'm having terrible visions of bent pins.

[frigid blade]

I cant wait to get started with the NAS

Yummy cables

[gaunt spade]

ew temu is so gross

its pinduoduo

[frigid blade]

I enjoy using aliexpress

[vital zenith]

You could put fans on the outside of the case too. Fans everywhere. That might be enough fans to make the whole PC hover.

[glacial cliff]

so that looks like a very clean solution for the data/power interconnection (and actually i think better in aspects than lian lis, as it allows the connector to be more internal i assume, and not have the external protrusions the lian lis have that make them sometimes difficult with the placement of radiator inlet/outlet ports?)

Buit how well does it help for structural interconenctedness? (genuine question! im curious!) do the conencted fans stay pretty well together (not perfect of course, there wll be some flex), or does it not help with any strctural rigidity of interconnectedness at all? The strcutral rigidity is a (small) benefit when assembling, and i'd honestly consider passing it up for a decently cheaper altenrative

[gaunt spade]

says predator

[glacial cliff]

was meant to reply to this

[gaunt spade]

make the corsair fan cube

[vital zenith]

I think they did that

[vital zenith]

yeah I remember it.

[gaunt spade]

yea this is what im talking about

[rigid fjord]

either get corsair's premium sata cables, or get those cables that are 4/6 to 4/6 sata in a single braid wrap

[gaunt spade]

pinduoduo my beloved

[vital zenith]

I just want to see what terrible things they would do to power 50 fans.

[rigid fjord]

i've seen this case, it's from like 2015

[vital zenith]

I wonder how many cube cases were produced.

[glacial cliff]

This is where i'm at so far on my new rebuild. i've got the ram storage and case so far. open to feedback on anything else (especially psu/motherboard! please give me direction! 😭 )

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/GwenBD94/saved/NhxPgs

[rigid fjord]

the only downside to using the p120 argb's is that you have to get longer screws as they're 28-30mm thick instead of 25mm thick like all standard fans are

[naive temple]

“a chinese site is shit but im using another chinese site”

[gaunt spade]

temu is for worldwide

[rigid fjord]

so is aliexpress tbh

[gaunt spade]

pinduoduo for chinese buyers

[glacial cliff]

ah that's also a concern in my new build, going SFF + MO-RA so fan clearances is actualyl a thing. I haven't weighed in on how the lian li options fit into my design yet either, so they could also be problematic

[rigid fjord]

then again there's taobao specific for asian market

[vital zenith]

Oh yeah prices are even better if you can navigate using a Chinese market specific site.

[gaunt spade]

yea pinduoduo super easy to navigate

[rigid fjord]

25mm thickness if i remember correctly for the fans on the lian li ones

[glacial cliff]

cheers

[rigid fjord]

taobao should be easy for you to navigate also

shein also if you're after clothing

[vital zenith]

I had not heard of pinduoduo. I buy doll clothes on Ali Express and I hear Taobao is crazy but I can't be bothered trying to proxy stuff to the US. I will take a look at pinduoduo.

[gaunt spade]

pinduoduo better prices

[rigid fjord]

taobao for tech, shein for clothing

[rigid fjord]

fan thickness vs rad thickness is something many people never think about tbh

[vital zenith]

I have used Shein once or twice but I kind of hate how their app works for actually seeing sizes and colors available.

I also just hate to buy clothes without trying them on tbh.

[rigid fjord]

some asian clothing actually suits me better than british clothing does, though sizing is always fustrating

[gaunt spade]

pinduoduo has food too

i bought oreos

[lunar sail]

Oh @rigid fjord thanks again for the laptop recommendation it runs really well and has alot of nice QoL (like USB-C charging)

[glacial cliff]

oh for rad & rad fans I have a MO-RA 3 420, with 4 Noctua NF A20s

[vital zenith]

Women's sizing is so all over the place in the US also so it's about the same.

[vital zenith]

Are they legit Oreos? I always find off brand sandwich cookies just aren't as good.

[lunar sail]

Is women's sizing good anywhere?

It's a nightmare honestly

[rigid fjord]

np glad you're enjoying it

[rigid fjord]

mens sizing is no better tbh

[vital zenith]

I've yet to hear from anyone vouch for it in their home country.

[gaunt spade]

pinduoduo has official stores for all brands all tech idk hp asus thermaltake and allat and they legit sell real oreos drinks and all kinds of foods

[lunar sail]

All I need now is to figure out how to do 2-finger dragging with the trackpad and I'll be golden with this laptop. But idk if that even exists

[gaunt spade]

i bought cocacola flavored oreos

[rigid fjord]

thats more for selections, tap + hold = drag on trackpads usually, however personally i'd use a normal mouse with a laptop

[vital zenith]

That's honestly such a better packaging size for Oreos why don't we have that here

[gaunt spade]

theres like weird food too like meats

[vital zenith]

You can buy like 4 Oreos or enough for your whole family

[gaunt spade]

you can get anything on this app

propably a car

[vital zenith]

Oreo flavors we don't deserve.

[lunar sail]

Can't use a mouse during lectures and pretty hard to use in bed. I find gesture controls to be pretty good the only thing I don't like is how currently to drag I need to double tap and hold with 1 finger

[vital zenith]

Sometime Aldi will get really crazy oreo flavors and they're not good but it's facinating to see.

[gaunt spade]

3 packs of oreos cost 2$

[vital zenith]

They had churro and gummy worm dirt cake a while back

[gaunt spade]

in my country we have like 4 flavors and thats it

[vital zenith]

Unfortunatly the texture is like 85% of the churro expereince so those were just wrong and I wasn't foolish enough to try gummy worm dirt cake.

[rigid fjord]

not even the likes of a g305 ?, small enough to be usable beside the laptop

[vital zenith]

We get limited time ones that they put out seasonally in normal stores and then they go away again.

[rigid fjord]

with aldi's and it's twin lidl's, you should look at their mixed chocolate pack

[gaunt spade]

weve never had that

[lunar sail]

In a lecture you literally have 0 table space. (Laptops are twice as big as the table) and in bed I can but if I'm using a mouse I feel like I might as well get up and go to my pc

[vital zenith]

It'll be like orange for Hallowwen, Birthday Cake, mint.

[lunar sail]

I'm good at using trackpads (increase the sense, remove acceleration, change some features) I'm just lacking a two/three finger drag option

[rigid fjord]

30-85% cocoa based chocolate bars in a small box

[vital zenith]

Most of the time it's just normal oreo, double-stuff, maybe blonde ones with a vanilla cookie.

Weird stuff just manifests at Aldi you never see anywhere else it's half the reason to shop there.

[rigid fjord]

@vital zenith this be it

[vital zenith]

I don't think I've seen that brad at ours.

They have some other ones that at least you get 4 or 5 small bars inside the large bar shaped packaging which is nice.

[lunar sail]

Same here

[vital zenith]

I feel like the packaging sizes and portioning of a lot of stuff doesn't make any sense here in the US if you are a single person.

It seems like a lot of companies assume you're either binge eatting or feeding a small family.

[rigid fjord]

well us sizes and lack of protion control....

[lunar sail]

https://github.com/ClementGre/ThreeFingerDragOnWindows?tab=readme-ov-file

Managed to find this, however its for 3 fingers, which is good enough for now I guess but I would love to find something like this but for just 2 fingers

[vital zenith]

I love shopping at Aldi. Some things are still too much for one person but it's refreshing to find things that are portioned out reasonably.

F for university desk space.

[rigid fjord]

tbf, i can never call america's version of portions, reasonable

[vital zenith]

There's not even room for all of your notebook to be on the desk half the time.

If brands keep shrinkflating their products maybe they will eventually get there.

Except that they're just as expensive.

I need someone to start selling meatballs for spagetti in a package of like 20 instead of 50. That's so many meatballs.

[rigid fjord]

a regular size in the uk is basically small in america

[vital zenith]

That's a major commitment. What if they're not good?

[vital zenith]

Restaunts are always trying to hand me cups that are so huge I'm like have mercy my hands aren't big enough to hold this.

[rigid fjord]

we do this in the uk, though you could easily get a 400g pack of mince meat/ground meat and make your own

[azure topaz]

truenas why are we doing this to me

[vital zenith]

They'll be giving you half a gallon of soda because it's the same price or a little more and they just don't ask and size you up like who needs this just getting handed it is a two hand opperation trying to get it into my car.

[rigid fjord]

400g of mince meat = 12-20 meatballs depending on the size you wante

[vital zenith]

I made my own for a while I should do it again. Frozen premade is just so convenient.

[rigid fjord]

less chemical preservatives also

[lunar sail]

Yeah. Even still cooking for 1 is pretty hard

[vital zenith]

I was thinking about building a NAS for my family recently but then i rmeembered storage prices are out of control and shelved that.

[lunar sail]

Let me buy 1 fruit or whatever

[rigid fjord]

one thing i can't stand about american drinks, is all the extra addatives you having in your drinks

[vital zenith]

I like when the produce is in a bin and you can just buy individual ones but you can usually only do that at the more expensive grocery store here and it's tiring to have to go in like three different stores.

[rigid fjord]

refurb'd hdd's are quite reasonably priced if you look at stuff from servers when companies do upgrades

[vital zenith]

There's so much stuff in all our food that's just illegal in a bunch of countries they could just not be putting in there like colors.

[rigid fjord]

prime example is orange fanta

[vital zenith]

Orange Crush is better but I think that's banned too

[lunar sail]

Oml the colour difference between Fanta in UK and America

And the metric tonne of sugar in American fanta

[gaunt spade]

ive seen us fanta it looks toxic

[rigid fjord]

orange fanta in the uk uses real oranges unlike us fanta

[lunar sail]

Wait wtf

[vital zenith]

I would never expect there to be real fruit in any soft drink in the US unless it's literally a specific fruit juice and even then usualy extra sweetners and stuff.

[mellow sonnet]

general european fanta not uk

keep in mind fanta was invented by the germans

[lunar sail]

We're comparing UK to US

[mellow sonnet]

shit comparison

[lunar sail]

?

[rigid fjord]

that's because of all the artificial colourings, some of which are linked to causing hyperactivity in kids

[mellow sonnet]

compare eu in general not just uk

[lunar sail]

We live in the UK you mong

[mellow sonnet]

who is we

[rigid fjord]

not really, not for certain things, also some european countries are a little laxed

[lunar sail]

Me and I assume rauko

Could be wrong but that was my impression

[gaunt spade]

he speakin french

[rigid fjord]

yup

[vital zenith]

Oh the lids are green

US Fanta has blue lids.

[mellow sonnet]

american fanta looks radioactive

[gaunt spade]

the us fanta shape is way worse too

[mellow sonnet]

the left one is the american one isnt it

[lunar sail]

The UK Fanta shape is so they can reduce the amount in the bottle

[vital zenith]

Fanta where I am in the US is that shape but the cap is blue. Maybe they rebranded.

[rigid fjord]

uk reduced sugar fanta uses blue lids tbh

[gaunt spade]

its propably old pic

[rigid fjord]

500 ml bottle on both sides

[vital zenith]

Yeah thisi is Cokeacola company US website currently

[steel umbra]

the one on the right is awkward to hold

it just feels like they’re trying to skimp on the soda

[mellow sonnet]

radioactive looking water

[vital zenith]

Coke brand bottles used to be that other shape though.

[rigid fjord]

such falcities on the american fanta

[lunar sail]

Huh interesting

[vital zenith]

See they definitely don't have that lable

[mellow sonnet]

🧍

[lunar sail]

100% natural flavours

[mellow sonnet]

100% artificial

[lunar sail]

Is the most misleading thing I've seen all day

[mellow sonnet]

almost everything made in america is misleading

[steel umbra]

what does 100% natural flavors mean?

[rigid fjord]

wait til you see bread in america vs uk bread

[gaunt spade]

icola and ifun look better than us ones

[sleek ibex]

If US Fanta is 100% natural, then I'm the Mayor of Candyland

[mellow sonnet]

that all ingredients were extracted from nature

red 40 from bugs

[rigid fjord]

real orange juice being used, but that's so false when it comes to the american one

[vital zenith]

I am reading the Wikipedia page on Fanta now and apparently there's a whole history related to the embargos between US and Germany during both world wars.

[sharp ivy]

Sunset Yellow FCF from banana

[vital zenith]

Apparently everyone but the US has orange juice in their Fanta.

[steel umbra]

aren’t humans and fabs as part of nature 🧌

technically a chemical making plant is also part of nature

[mellow sonnet]

and thats what that label means

[peak swan]

I need a new phone bruh

[gaunt spade]

no case

[steel umbra]

so it has to be 100% natural flavours and not flavors 🤣

the u is important

[gaunt spade]

people who have no case and broken back dont deserve a new phone

[mellow sonnet]

2022 manufacture date? that shit looks like its older than gen alpha

[vital zenith]

I don't understand why phone manufacturers started putting glass on the back of phones

[peak swan]

Yeah
Well all the damage has happened in literally only this last week

[steel umbra]

premiumness

[vital zenith]

plastic also works for wireless charging and is less likely to shatter

[peak swan]

This phone is from 2017

[gaunt spade]

thats a s8

[steel umbra]

scratches easily

anything… coins, any dust scratches a plastic back

[mellow sonnet]

ive been caseless since i bought this phone in 2023 and it fell multiple times including on concrete and no cracks

[steel umbra]

i prefer metal backs personally

and put the phone in a case

[vital zenith]

I had a Moto X4 that had it and I didn't break it but it was so unnecessary and they have stopped putting it on the Motos for years.

[lunar sail]

Good point. I always use a phone case

But I've also never had a phone with a glass back

[rigid fjord]

@lunar sail

[mellow sonnet]

glass is just premium

[vital zenith]

Even the flag ship Motorola phones usually have plastic backs.

[fickle ivy]

My laptop is genuinely so bad that I'm playing beamng and if I crash my game just crashes instantly

[mellow sonnet]

isnt that toast bread on the right side

[gaunt spade]

yea i have a flagship moto and the back is plastic

[lunar sail]

America bleaches their eggs so much they have to refrigerate them. That's why they do it

[steel umbra]

the whole phone rounded, thicker is what i prefer

[lunar sail]

It's madness

[mellow sonnet]

motorola and flagship dont go together

[gaunt spade]

i have a 2022 flagship moto

[mellow sonnet]

thats why they got plastic backs because its cheaper

[gaunt spade]

works perfectly

[gaunt spade]

its not worse tho

[steel umbra]

i like how grippy rugged phones are

[lunar sail]

I have a Samsung xcover6 pro. Please don't buy the Samsung xcover6 pro

[vital zenith]

I have been a Moto user since 2014 or so and i'm on my 4th moto and my second Edge. It's been interesting to see the change since Lenovo bought them.

[gaunt spade]

didnt even know that

i just bought it cuz super good specs for super cheap

[lunar sail]

I used Moto until my phone randomly and instantly died in my pocket whilst walking home from work

[steel umbra]

i’d wish they’d put some horizonatl/vertical groves on most budget phones and make them round

[mellow sonnet]

i know what i am talking about when it comes to motorola because i literally have an android as a second phone that is a motorola with a broken lcd that has multiple stuck pixels

[rigid fjord]

essentially yes, but also it's more to point out that european bread = 4 ingredients vs america's 30+ ingredients, some of which are literaly carcinogens

[mellow sonnet]

minecraft bread made with just wheat

[rigid fjord]

it gets worse on that front when you see the sizes

[vital zenith]

Yeah it was just Motorolla when they were origionally doing Droids and then Google aquired them and for a little bit the google Nexus phones suddenly was the Moto X4 instead that was like the dev phone for Android and I had a cool fully custom one.

[lunar sail]

How so?

[steel umbra]

it’s coming to europe as well

[gaunt spade]

wich one do u have rn

[vital zenith]

Then somewhere Lenovo bought Motorolla and they diversified their product line but they also all started to look more samey/iphoney.

[steel umbra]

i’ve noticed with dairy, frozen sweets

[mellow sonnet]

speaking of minecraft i wish mojang added cooking

[vital zenith]

I have the Edge 2023 ( the smaller one) now.

I had the first non-plus Edge before.

[gaunt spade]

i dont like the non pluses

i have a plus 2022

[vital zenith]

I don't actually care about the waterfall edges but they stopped putting Oled screens on phones other than the Edges.

[mellow sonnet]

the motorola i got is a very cheap one i was given for free and its surprisingly snappy for a shit phone

[gaunt spade]

dosent the non edge have a worse chip too

[vital zenith]

They just started again and have Oled on the G Stylus now and I'm hype actually.

[gaunt spade]

i mean non plus im slow

[mellow sonnet]

dont even know what is inside it

[rigid fjord]

1 slice of european bread = 2 slices of american bread

[vital zenith]

I don't have big hands so I can't have a big phone so I go for the smaller version.

I had to wait a few gens for them to make the non-plus edge waterproof which was silly.

[long kayak]

so amd adrenaline not oppening is a common thing right?

[formal sonnet]

Erm... No? Some of the Razr Plus (aka Razr Ultra in the EU) series use AMOLED screens.

[vital zenith]

Other than the Razers sorry. I meant other than the folding phones which are their own whole thing.

[rigid fjord]

american bread on the left, european bread on the right for size comparison @lunar sail

[gaunt spade]

📉

[lunar sail]

Wait why

[mellow sonnet]

bread isnt just bread it depends on size and how you cut the slices

[rigid fjord]

standard sizes and medium thickness

[gaunt spade]

theres no standart sizes for bread

[vital zenith]

The folding phones are all pretty fancy and have oled screens. All their other flat phones had LCD after Lenovo bought them My Moto X4 was the first Lenovo one I had and it was an LCD and I was like never again. I read on my phone a lot at night and was playing a lot of pokemon go in outdoors for a long time and the olded is a must have.

[abstract wigeon]

there defo are over here, any company loaf will be the same

[rigid fjord]

for a loaf bought in a shop, there is actually, as it's a tinned loaf

[vital zenith]

Sandwich bread is all over the place some is super wide and some is small.

[steel umbra]

one of the groceries sold some unfrozen chocolate coconut filled popsicles that had like a ton of thickeners, preservatives, had nothing to do with coconut, basicly none chocolate just cocoa butter, they tasted nothing alike i’ve had (pretty bad)
they tasted like the cheapest chocolate in the world with a tasteless paste that had a vanilla flavour

can’t even describe it

[rigid fjord]

so basically like what lindt tastes like

[vital zenith]

There were a couple gens of Moto with the pantone collaboration I really wanted that had the Oled actually but they were like Sprint or At&T exclusives and couldn't be used on my carier. I was so mad I wanted the viva magenta phone or the blue one they had I also liked.

[steel umbra]

iirc it didn’t even have full sucrose content but fructose-glucose syrup

[steel umbra]

they ruined lindt ngl

[vital zenith]

The non-plus Moto Edge phones are the US exclusiver version of the Moto Edge Neo phones that are available globally in cool colors and the US versions are for some reason available exclusively in colors indistinuishable from black.

[steel umbra]

they handed over production to the polish and collectively just made them bad (the austrian/italian as well don’t taste good anymore)

[vital zenith]

It's infuriating

Literally the same phone but the mic hole is on the other side.

[steel umbra]

they’re saving too much on chocolate and compensate with cocoa butter

you end up with greasy disgusting chocolate

[gaunt spade]

does ur moto have a good display

[steel umbra]

i mean grease with sugar

[vital zenith]

I have been buying cases for my Moto Edge 2023 for the Edge Neo's and drilling an extra mic hole thouogh with a dremmel the last two years.

[rigid fjord]

tbf, belgian chocolate is where it's at if you're after quality milk chocolate, otherwise you want something like ecuadorian chocolate if you're after a dark chocolate

[steel umbra]

any really dark chocolate is fine

it’s the new dark

and the dark chocolate rn has choko content of less than milk chocolate used to have

[vital zenith]

It's OK. It's a FHD+ 6.6 inch waterfall edge pOLED It's not a flagship phone but it was at $300 USD phone basically not $700-1000

[rigid fjord]

nah, there's a large difference in dark chocolates

[formal sonnet]

Ah yes, the joys of pulling a Canon Camera blunder. 🤣 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EOS_500D

Canon EOS 500D = EOS Kiss X3 = EOS Rebel T1i
Literally all the same camera... with different names because we like to confuse consumers and retailers!

[gaunt spade]

msrp 300 or u paid 300

[vital zenith]

The moto edges are a little slimmer than the screen size suggests because they're a little taller and the edges curve.

[rigid fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/helo-moto-moti-fat-gif-8127317004938148417

[steel umbra]

i like dark chocolates above 75%, they’re bitter most have similar’ish texture and they sort of dry up your mouth or what it feels

[vital zenith]

I paid about $300 when I bought it in 2023 with a release discount and its was around $250-300 USD last time I was looking in 2025. Motorolla has sales on their site all the time if your carrier will allow you to use a given unlcoked phone.

[rigid fjord]

that should be bitter sweet but doesn't dry up your mouth at all

[steel umbra]

it likes to stick to your mouth but isn’t greasy

it feels like it dries up your mouth

[gaunt spade]

i bought my edge 2022 plus 512gb for 140$

[steel umbra]

real 75% does that i believe

[vital zenith]

I like to order phones for myself and my family direct from Motorolla in the US when they're having one of their many seasonal sales and our current plan lets us just switch phones when we want.

[rigid fjord]

70-76% would be madagascan dark chocolate usually

[steel umbra]

i’ve had 70-72% that were suspiciously greasy

[rigid fjord]

yeah, fuck ton of vegetable fat being used there

[vital zenith]

I had and Edger 2019 the first one and then the intervening years had worse specs so I waited until the 2023.

[steel umbra]

also they lacked the typical stronger flavour

[formal sonnet]

Same thing I did with my Razr Plus 2024 (aka Razr Ultra 50) - bought direct from Motorola Canada during a sale.

[steel umbra]

kinda bland

[knotty pike]

I'm legit thinking about replacing my wretched samsung with something better eventually. So tired of the anti root nonsense.

[vital zenith]

They had worse cameras or worse water resistance or no wireless charging and the same specs.

[rigid fjord]

lindt likes to do this to much for the filling of the chocolate bon bons they do

[gaunt spade]

mine has snap gen 1

[vital zenith]

The Edge 2023 was the first one that had some better specs again and wireless charging and waterproofing.

[gaunt spade]

i believe mine has wireless charging idk about waterproof i dont need it tbh

[steel umbra]

i used to like it until they overdid it

[vital zenith]

I'm not really a processor person I was looking at battery, camera, screen type, charging, and waterproofing was the biggest thing for me.

[steel umbra]

it’s all to greasy now from lindt

[vital zenith]

the origional Edge bafflingly did not have wireless charging

[steel umbra]

and merci seems to have degraded over the span of decade as well

[vital zenith]

No idea why it had a plastic back they just didn't put it in the non-plus because

[steel umbra]

there is just something off with them

[rigid fjord]

literally all because of vegetable fat and some oils being used

[knotty pike]

Why does samsung have to purposely fill up more storage every update that cannot be freed? This is why I like using custom roms cause this isn't an issue with them.

[steel umbra]

maybe i’m off but when i have like it says on the packaging 75-80% dark chocolate they tend to be yeah strong and good, some are less well, i don’t buy them when i find out but the brand chocolates now most of them are off

[rigid fjord]

tbf, the only good motorola has been the razr's

[knotty pike]

I'm legit thinking about switching to a motorola again soon.

[vital zenith]

My Edge 2023 is still working perfectly well with good battery life and with charging up to 65W I charge it at 45w at home and have been happy. Now that they're putting oled screens in the G Stylus when I need a new phone I will look at those .

[vital zenith]

I won't buy a folding phone because I know I will pinch myself in that hinge. I just know it.

They're cool, I just know I pinch myself with every part of that phone fiddling with it so it would be a stupid purchase for me to make.

[steel umbra]

idk they should spend less money on marketing

oh yeah wasn’t lidnt not sold during the summer

it’s now sold during the summer as well

quantity over quality?

[rigid fjord]

@steel umbratry and find these if there's a lidl/aldi near you

[gaunt spade]

ive only seen the super cheapos with the stylus are there higher end ones?

[steel umbra]

i had j.d gross chocolate it was goood

[vital zenith]

I was using one of the old droid razer mini tiny little flat smarphones from before they discontinued the razer and droid lines for a while and I had it as a loner for a few months in 2017 and it was great honestly.

[rigid fjord]

their bigger sales is during winter time afaik

[vital zenith]

Tiny compared to pretty much every phone now but it actually fit in the pockets of women's pants.

[rigid fjord]

quality chocolate from them

[steel umbra]

i can’t remember if i had 85% gross or 70% gross

[vital zenith]

They make like a bazillion different Moto G's every year

[formal sonnet]

From my quick research, it seems the newer Moto G's (of which they have a million models) for 2026 have received nice upgrades to their hardware. They're still on the lower end, but Motorola has been making them more appealing for their price.

[rigid fjord]

basically milk chocolate, chocolates @steel umbra

[steel umbra]

i lik dark

i haven’t tried their 95%

[rigid fjord]

these still taste good, just not the same as daark chocolate

[vital zenith]

Some of the moto G's are absolute crap like the G play line. My mom has had a couple of G Powers that have been perfectly good budget phones for her with a little more battery but they're a budget phone at a budget price.

[rigid fjord]

ah, that's the ariba, yeah, take in small amounts, it's strong

[vital zenith]

The G Stylus line are a little nicer and it varries by the model year if they're a decent upgrade and if you want the stylus. They're still in the budget category but not dirt cheap.

My sibling has had a couple G-stylus and just got one of the newer Oled ones on sale a few months ago.

[steel umbra]

i can always brew my own chocolate from their high % by melting and adding sugar yeah… ik it’s not as good but that’d be if i want something weaker

but i tend to eat less of strong chocolate

[vital zenith]

I find most of their phones hold up well for 3 years or more which is better than a lot better than the 2 year life cycle of a lot of tech.

[steel umbra]

you can’t fit half a bar in your mouth otherwise it’s going to taste worse

just like cheddar or italian cheese

small amounts at a time is excellence

[gaunt spade]

do you think is worth upgrading or just switching out battery when it gets too bad on the edge 2022 plus

[steel umbra]

if you shove it all at once into your mouth you’d almost wish to not live

[rigid fjord]

eh, you can do half a block of davidstow cheddar without issues tbh

though, that's a cornish cheddar, so a little creamier

[steel umbra]

too much salt and flavour makes me want to spit it out

i just break a piece of cheddar and eat them as cubes

[rigid fjord]

tbf, cheddar shouldn't be salty at all afaik, especially with a mature/extra mature cheddar

[vital zenith]

I would probably look to upgrade. That phone is old enough I don't know how many more android updates they will support. It's a matter of price for the upgrade though. I would probably be keeping an eye on new Moto releases for one that met my personal requirements and then waiting for a decent Mororolla sale on it to strike.

If you have the bigger plus ones they're obviously more expensive and the math shifts a little from the smaller version but personally I favor a mid-range phone over shelling out for flagship.

[steel umbra]

it’s just the nice creamy texture and how it as it not quite dissolves in your mouth along with the 1.2-2g of salt contents + the flavour at once it’s too much

[vital zenith]

If you have a phone with flagship tech you like and it's still getting android support a battery replacement could be worth it.

[gaunt spade]

yea i want better specs if i upgrade not some crappy cpu but just more android support

oh also this phone is 512gb

[steel umbra]

also if you eat raw mushrooms i can eat big one for an hour or even more because of the almost foul taste but it’s decent in bits

[vital zenith]

I went through the trouble of having my Moto X2 battery replaced back in 2016 and it turned into a 4 month saga with the repair shop that's it's own whole story but when I finally got it back the battery life didn't feel that much better and I realized the charging port was probably worn out and I ended up upgrading to an X4 within about a month when Motorolla was having their mother's day sale and was much happier going from a 4 year old high end phone to a budget/low midrange phone.

Moto has cut the headphone jack and Micro SD card from most of their phones now unfortunately but so have most manufacturers.

I really only care about the SD card but it hasn't been a huge issue.

[steel umbra]

raw bell peppers, they’re just tasteless so i don’t gobble them up xd

[gaunt spade]

lol the fan i got for 0.69 yuan they gave back 0.50 for cashback

[mellow sonnet]

guys how healthy is that hotspot

[gaunt spade]

i miss headphone jacks

[rigid fjord]

i wouldn't touch shroom's even if it was to save my life

[gaunt spade]

sd cards are really nice too but i didnt need one for this phone atleast cuz 512gb

[vital zenith]

Everyone morns them but honestly my last phone I couldn't plug in the headphone jack with the case on it would pop back out so it was way more convenient to go blutooth so I don't care.

[steel umbra]

store bought, i don’t pick them up

[vital zenith]

Like my car had no blutooth at the time and it was line in and i couldn't use it without taking the case off which meant I couldn't use my vent pop-socket clip if I was navigating with google maps. I eventually just invested in one of those little blutooth to 3.5mm adapters for my car and I already was just using blutooth earbuds so when the jack went away on my next phone I did not care.

[gaunt spade]

car

richhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[vital zenith]

I just bought a new car and it's so nice.

[steel umbra]

i once had one garden picked champignon unsure if i ate it raw or cooked it but i did feel a bit off after eating it but nothing happened otherwise

[vital zenith]

It's just a little civic but I did splash out for a hybrid and it has some nice modern features which my last car had nothing not even curise control

[gaunt spade]

i really want a chinese car

[steel umbra]

probably just my stomach not being happy

[vital zenith]

I live in a part of Ohio where public transit and walkability almost don't exist so you kind of have to drive.

Its kind of terrible.

I had a little Hyundai Accent I was like what is the smallest used car you currently have here and that was it. That car was so light it was crazy.

[gaunt spade]

ohio isnt real

[vital zenith]

My new Civic is not fancy as cars go but basic Honda's have some nice things. I am loving finally having a back up camera and the blind spot warning.

[vital zenith]

They don't have a global version of this meme someone should make one.

[gaunt spade]

global meme should be with fr*nce

[vital zenith]

Even the state capital of Ohio is a driving city it's like LA with less grid lock

Columbus Ohio exudes a certain brutalist energy and you will eventually realize it's city for cars instead of people.

It's all highway belts and ramps and parking garages.

There are several versions of the proximity to Ohio meme but I like this one and the legend the best

"Illusion of safety"

When I was car shopping recently I really wanted a blue car and I really wanted something like the Thermaltake Hydrangea blue case color. I have been feeling that color so much.

It turns out Honda makes like two vehicles in a sort of similar sky blue color but they're like an SUV and a pick up truck and I was in the market for a compact sedan.

Make little cars in more fun colors.

The weirdest thing about the threat posed by Ohio meme is that they included Canada but not Mexico.

[steel umbra]

spanish or vanish

[vital zenith]

Genuinely went to school with people who didn't know the US shared a land border with Mexico because it wasn't included on so many maps and w'ere not in a border state.

[gaunt spade]

i love playng games at 500p

[vital zenith]

We were streaming a show the other day though Discord and it was getting downgraded so hard that day it looked like a needle point of the show.

[gilded imp]

We should nuke Ohio

[vital zenith]

We were like the Nintedo DS touch screen was a higher resolution

[vital zenith]

No all the roads go thgouh here that's why it's like this

[gaunt spade]

things i do for 120fps

[vital zenith]

A bunch of mafor highways cross though Ohio we have so many big trucks going though here.

[gilded imp]

Burning crater

https://tenor.com/view/nuke-it-olliesblog-olliesblog-nuke-it-olliesblog-nuke-nuke-it-all-gif-1658290845776537730

[vital zenith]

To be fair there is the part of Ohio that is flat as hell because it was smooshed by the glaciers during the ice age and then the parst that are foresty and rivers and mountain foot hills and it is not the same.

[gaunt spade]

should i overclock my gpu

[vital zenith]

What's the worst that could happen.

[gaunt spade]

exactly

[vital zenith]

I'm not pushing the boundries but my thoughts are this: Can you afford to replace the CPU with something similar if it gets cooked? If you won't be in dire straights if you cook it then do whatever you want.

[gaunt spade]

i think my drivers are fucked up im too lazy to reinstall them

[cold skiff]

Overclocking a gpu in 2026 is no risk. Overclocking a gpu in 2006. Risky.

[gaunt spade]

my cpus ok

[vital zenith]

God my everything is so up to date.

[gaunt spade]

my gpus weak

[vital zenith]

Same thing though

I mean same math

[gaunt spade]

12700k with rx 570

[vital zenith]

Are you in trouble immediately if you fry it? Do you need your computer for work or school immediately or can you afford to replace the GPU if something catostrophic happens. If you can risk it then have fun. If not, be cautious.

[gaunt spade]

i dont need a shitty rx 570

[vital zenith]

I spent the last like three days troubleshooting a problem with a game running single digit FPS that turned out to be running on the iGPU instead of the dedicated GPU and I tried updating the drivers for absolutely everytying including the bios and nothing fixed it but just disabling the igpu.

So everyting is up to date now I guess. The mystery remains.

The cool thing about being an adult is that you can do whatever you want with your toys forever.

[gaunt spade]

i need new windows install frfr

all my shits fucked up

drivers and directx stuff

i havent had this low end of a gpu in years

[mortal venture]

nvidia

[solemn pewter]

Is there any way to reset context in LLMs short of creating a new account? I don't always want them to answer my questions by referring to things I said 3 years ago.

[cold skiff]

That’s beautiful

Is that corrosion or dust on that beautiful chipset?

[mortal venture]

dust

[cold skiff]

Thank gos for that. She’s a keeper

[mortal venture]

it works and I have cpu for it

[formal sonnet]

You'd have to check for each LLM, but yes, you should be able to do this. For Google's Gemini, you would choose "turn off and delete activity" from the "Keep activity" screen. https://myactivity.google.com/product/gemini

Or I guess you could also just click the Delete dropdown, then choose how much you want to delete.

[mortal venture]

@cold skiff I have 4GB DDR2 and phenom x4 9550 for that mobo

[cold skiff]

Good cpu that

I had one and a 1090t

[mortal venture]

Nice

I also have asus a7v8x-x with athlon xp 2000+, 512MB ram and geforce 2 mx400

[cold skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-austin-powers-squirt-orgasm-gasm-gif-19285469

GeForce 2 mx makes me feel this way

I remember giving mine to an at the time girlfriend to play wow because I got a GeForce 4

[mortal venture]

I'm too young for having this when it was new

but I like retro

[solemn pewter]

That's the hard part, I want to retain my chat history, I just don't want it to use it for context in future ones. I want them all to be self contained.

[languid isle]

Is going from an RTX 3060 12GB to a RX 9060 XT 16GB a good upgrade
(CPU: Ryzen 7 5700X)

[cold skiff]

Not really

[formal sonnet]

That's likely not possible unless the ML agent supports containerizing each conversation.

[cold skiff]

You get a good performance boost but honestly, pay for the next tier up. A 9060xt is basically a 7700xt with better RT and FSR4 support.

[ivory mountain]

anyone else experiencing shimmering issues on rdna2 gpus with fsr on RE requiem

[vital zenith]

My understanding is FSR in general could be boosting your frames higher than your monitor can handle and that can cause artifacts? Tearing for sure idk about shimmering.

[ivory mountain]

idk, fsr hasnt really ever been "great", part of the reason i havent purchased a 9070xt yet and am looking for a 5070ti if i can snag one for under 900 (somehow)

[vital zenith]

Definitely try it without FSR and see if it goes away?

[solid quail]

I want this thing so bad

[cold skiff]

Huge north bridge

[sharp ivy]

Oooh nice

what speed ddr2

[plucky lodge]

who thought denovo had such big impact on fps

[hallow jasper]

literally anyone who's been awake the past few years

[sharp ivy]

The GPU on the right is drawing more power tho

[plucky lodge]

yes , but that big of a impact?

[sharp ivy]

and running hotter

[mortal venture]

800MHz

[hallow jasper]

yes, this is nothing new

[plucky lodge]

always thoughts it just a margine of error type of impact

but this is insane more then 10%

[solid quail]

Massive even

[hallow jasper]

I'm not sure what one would do with that

Other than maybe rest in on a bookshelf as decoration

[solid quail]

It would be rather interesting to tinker around with that (and a single socket mobo as well) and the CPUs that pair with the board. Xeon Dunnington were effectively core2 based six-core chips

[gaunt spade]

holy shit

[solid quail]

And also the first ever x86 6 core cpu:s, xeon x7460 etc

[hallow jasper]

If you say so. Could buy multiple functional modern boards for what those things are going for on Ebay

[sharp ivy]

and?

what if you don't want modern boards

just for fun

[solid quail]

I had a chance to buy a single socket 604 mobo last year, but missed it due to scheduling issues

[hallow jasper]

knock yourself out, i guess

[sharp ivy]

Will do 👍

I now own 20 LGA 775 pcs

[shy basalt]

I built my first pc and i started it and this popped up what does it mean i already tried to press y

[hallow jasper]

Thats crazy to me

[solid quail]

Socket 478 is the real shit

[hallow jasper]

Had my Q6600 fun in period, that was enough

would just take up space and not be able to do anything useful today

[sharp ivy]

I have that too

[solid quail]

My proper 775 boards died some years ago so now I only have a loser g41 board lying around lol

[hallow jasper]

it means the board is detecting a new CPU, which if its new thats normal. If everything is meant to be new, including a fresh OS install, press Y or Del. If you stll have issues, head to #1027757333117415424

[solid quail]

Also my asus m2n-e seems pretty dead

[shy basalt]

Ok thanks

[sharp ivy]

Is whatever socket the NEC 8950 uses also considered real?

oh it just uses the 8088 socket

👍

[shy basalt]

I tried y and delete it doesnt work then I pressed n and i comed to this screen

[hallow jasper]

congrats, you're in the BIOS

[hallow jasper]

This is the point where you continue along with the multiple "how to build a PC" videos you watched to get this far and into the "how to install Windows" steps

[shy basalt]

How do i get to the normal screen

[hallow jasper]

you'll have to better define what the "normal" screen is

[shy basalt]

Where i can open app and like smth

[hallow jasper]

Yeah sorry, not sure what that means

[hallow jasper]

You're in the BIOS. Thats the only place you'll go if you boot up a new PC without an operating system installed

[cold skiff]

Imagine if we didn’t have these and YouTube now a days.

[hallow jasper]

We'd be in the same place because no one can seem to bother watching them

[cold skiff]

I was born 20 years too late to take advantage of simply setting people’s systems up for them for a stupid price

I like telling people I was 9 when I built my own rig. That I had no YouTube videos, magazines didn’t offer any help and they’ve got YouTube now so they don’t need me

People so impatient and lacking the will to do their own research and work these days

[gaunt spade]

old man

[hallow jasper]

damn kids

[shy basalt]

I have installed yet a operating system by a usb-stick

[hallow jasper]

haven't?

[shy basalt]

What?

[vital zenith]

You are in the BIOS which is the basic motherboard software. You need to look up a tutorial for how to install windows or a Linux operating system of your choice and install it from a removable media such as a usb drive. You have no operating system to boot into but the BIOS until you install Windows or Linux.

[hallow jasper]

that didn't make any sense. thought you might have meant "I haven't install an operating system yet"

[vital zenith]

Look up how to install operating system from flash drive in Gigabyte BIOS. Each manufacturer BIOS is a little different.

Might be a good idea to do a BIOS update first also depending on the age of the board.

I've seen a Gigabyte BIOS version that didn't have TPM so Windows 11 wouldn't install until the BIOS was updated to a version that was a few years newer.

[spring latch]

I used the PIC to (probasbly illegally) leak AM Radio RF to do this lmao

[vital zenith]

If it's low power you're ok. Those car FM adapters so you could throw MP3 palyers or smartphone media to your car radio are legal. In the US at least.

[spring latch]

im not sure tbh i need to test the range

I think no more than 100ft is legal according to the FCC

[vital zenith]

The good news is these days they probably have other things to do than come sniffing around looking for a localized AM dissruption even if it's more than that.

[spring latch]

I just find it cool that its easy to hack the PIC/PIT to leak radio

[vital zenith]

It is interesting

I want to know how Rkckcb is getting on, I'm invested already.

[steel umbra]

i’m the only one that finds this image funny in a listing that sells a thermal camera?

[vital zenith]

Is it because the camera is facing the wrong way?

[valid bramble]

That's a sound theory I'll have to try it

[steel umbra]

it looks like the world has been taken over by surveillance

[vital zenith]

Oh like a big camera looming over the city dai kaiju style?

Militsioner the game but it hasn't got any hands (that we know of)

I remember it being such mysterious and intimidating seeming thing to build a computer like 15 years ago when I was a teenager and one of my friends' older siblings was building her a computer after she saved up for some parts.

I never really looked into it and then like a year ago I started getting computer cleaning videos on youtube and then LTT videos and found PC part picker and was like "Oh that's easier than assembling a new bedroom out of flatpack. I can definitely do that."

Putting together a computer is easy. Troubleshooting one is hard XD

[steel umbra]

especially when you don’t have two compatible systems

sometimes it’s just poorly plugged cable (in that case it’s easy)

sometimes you fry a cpu during oc and it behaves strangely til you replace it

[vital zenith]

Oh yeah bad hardware you can't test is a nightmare

[steel umbra]

sometimes nvidia driver update bricks your system and you cannot reinstall windows bc you have important files on it

[vital zenith]

I thought my display cable must be bad when I built my system but it turned out my PCIE riser cable was just not in quite right.

[steel umbra]

imagine updating and the output you receive is a blank screen

and you can’t navigate easily into something like ddu

[vital zenith]

I put the whole thing together and was only getting a blank screen. and I think I might have tested it with HDMI first and it worked but something must have been a little off after I put it in the case.

[south arrow]

Reminder to make backups

[steel umbra]

my used rx 6800 died from a sketchy seller and i knew immediately it was the card because i unplugged the gpu and ran it on the igpu

[vital zenith]

My sibling's prebuilt SFF computer we changed out the cooler in luckily was working when be closed it back up and then stopped and it also turned out the riser cable was invisibly just a little out apparently after the whole case had been moved around.

[vital zenith]

I need to see what my file back up situation is. I can't remember what I set up and then I cloned my c drive over to a bigger NVME and I have no idea.

I suspect it's still backing up to the D drive but I should check

[warm anvil]

cant tell if this looks good

[south arrow]

I always keep an hdd or two around just in case

[steel umbra]

my files aren’t all that important, mostly just the photos that bring memories and some tests

[vital zenith]

You mean aesthetically?

[steel umbra]

so 2 copes are enough for me

[warm anvil]

i guess yeah

[steel umbra]

1 on nvme, 1 on flash

[vital zenith]

I mean it's not for me. I don't like how low contrast the green and white text are on the gray and the dappled shadow thing makes it worse but if you can see it and like it its for you.

Overall vibes though are very retro.

[steel umbra]

@south arrow 5 minutes ago got scared the hell from my blanket, i was rubbing my brachioradialis (couldn’t find less scientific denition real quick on google) agaisnt my blanket as i was typing and it clinged onto my arm and started tickling me like a large bug due static 😂

[south arrow]

XD

[vital zenith]

The possiblity of a bug is terrifying

[south arrow]

Gotcha with a sneaky

[steel umbra]

thought it was a large stink bug because the static also made noises

there’s overpopulation of them last few years in my region

but like yeah they don’t be very active during the winter

[hexed sage]

YouTube added a prompt for being the 67th like on a YouTube short

I wish I made this up 😭

[steel umbra]

do not look up the numbers next to 67

very not recommended

[hexed sage]

What numbers?

[gaunt spade]

789

[vital zenith]

We are also beset by the invasive stink bugs here too.

My family is finding two or more of them on the walls or ceiling near the lights basically every evening.

Everytime it warm up a little bit the activity seems to explode and we're finding like 6 a night.

[fickle ivy]

It's crazy how much better 25fps feels over 20fps

[topaz shale]

i mean thats quite the jump percentage wise

[steel umbra]

even 22fps from 20 is huge

[bold olive]

1 to 2 fps

[steel umbra]

+100%

[bold olive]

half a second faster

but

239 to 240

[steel umbra]

i cannot calculate that out of head so…

+0.41%

my quicc guess

noooo i was off by 0.08%

[bold olive]

I wasn't even close

[steel umbra]

my answer is still incorrect only +0.042% or +0.0418% are correcto

sums ofc

also many people surprisingly don’t know how to calculate percentage but the fastest way when you’re comparing is to just divide the bigger number with the smaller one or visa versa

the rest is simple hopefully

[gaunt spade]

proart 5090 🥹

[steel umbra]

looks like a black prime

ngl

is it just me or do recent prime cards look premium or proart looks budget’ish

[teal sinew]

supposedly this uses a similar multi-pcb design to the Founders, but it's 2.5 slots instead of 2.0

im curious how the temps are in comparison to the FE

[steel umbra]

does it solve the 12v-6xtwicemeltageconnector

[teal sinew]

no you can see that it's still single 12v-2x6

just plug it in all the way, use a 0.95v limit, and pray

[steel umbra]

i meant if it has load balancing or some protection built in

just asking so i’m not outdated

well load balancing doesn’t solve everything you can still have a cable w load balancing melt due to when it doesn’t work… but better than nothing

[sinful cobalt]

i was actually considering a proart 5090 for my ITX but didnt go for it bcs of late release and asus pricing over here always sucks

[bold olive]

that left air passthrough let me wonder how tf does the display connectors connect to the card

[versed ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/what-year-is-it-jumanji-forgotten-gif-15305928

[cosmic stratus]

Good bye 240 rad

[vital zenith]

Found a stink bug. They're after me

[spring latch]

900KHz AM radio signal hosted by a.. laptop PIT

[teal sphinx]

why the fuck intel want to collect these date for a freaking GPU driver

[mint umbra]

linux mod manager ??

like vortex?

does one exist

[teal sphinx]

luckily you can just decline, imagine the amount of people that did not read through that and just click accept

[livid perch]

oops

[teal sphinx]

wha?

[livid perch]

i got 2 s26u's

[teal sphinx]

it was a mistake?

[livid perch]

now i have to suffer cuz i have to wait like 2 weeks

[livid perch]

nahh

[teal sphinx]

but it says next day? why would it take 2 weeks

[livid perch]

i did get a lil too exited and ordered them before adding in the Ip17pm for my mom tho

[livid perch]

global launch is in the 11th

i dont think At t will give my phones to me even when they get it tomarrow cuz they said "Theyll come after the 11th"

[teal sphinx]

mmm

no idea i am using a budget tier samsung

a16 5g to be exact

[livid perch]

not a bad phone

ill prob get one as my secondary to use as my unlocked phone on international trips

i was thinking of either a a16 or a a36 but i dont think ill have to go with the a36 cuz the a16 is good or even too good for anything Ill use it for

[teal sphinx]

Well it is much better than my previous phone but it isn't that great either

The camera kinda sucks unless you have a lot of light and can hold your hand steady af

No ois

[stoic nova]

It's nice of them to have the courtesy to even ask

[teal sphinx]

Like the gak they want to collect the categories of website I visit and how frequently I visit them even data about smart devices I use with the laptop

[stoic nova]

Everything usually crams into a privacy policy + tos and lets them rootkit you and tls cert your https traffic

[teal sphinx]

True

[stoic nova]

Not even offensive by today's standards

[teal sphinx]

And you can't decline them. Is that even legal?

[stoic nova]

To decline would be...no software

[livid perch]

I js need it to use my turkish sim on

and to share mobile data to my main phone

so itll be more than enough probably

it aint too bulky so wont be a mssive hassle to carry it with the main phone]

[teal sphinx]

Time to get a really cheap Xiaomi phone with 5g

[livid perch]

Xiaomis are pretty good

especially their cameras

[teal sphinx]

Their software suck imo

[livid perch]

only reason im not getting one cuz the US companies dont offer it lol

[teal sphinx]

So much bloat

[livid perch]

thats true

[livid perch]

u cant even get rid of some

[fringe prairie]

import one

[livid perch]

i trade my old phone to get the new one

[fringe prairie]

oh via carrier?

[livid perch]

yeahh

thats why i need an unlocked secondary lol

[stoic nova]

Bad blood lmao

[teal sphinx]

Honestly I don't understand when carrier decide to Telco lock you and when they dont

[livid perch]

meh

i got 1100 for my S22u that has a cracked back and front glass

only gotta pay like 5 dollars each month for 3 years

so like 180 dollars in total for the phone

[teal sphinx]

Wtf where you find deal like that

[livid perch]

and i wont need to move carriers cuz At t aint bad its actually the best for my state

[teal sphinx]

There are no way the Telco are earning anything

[livid perch]

At t

[teal sphinx]

I've never seen anything similar in my country

[livid perch]

i mean trading in a cracked 4 year old phone for 1100 is dope

[livid perch]

i got my s22 ultra that way too

traded in a cracked A32 5g and got 1000 off

[teal sphinx]

Huhhh

Telco trade in in my country usually suck so much you might as well trade into Samsung themselves

Even in pristine condition there are no way you are getting more than half the original price

[livid perch]

I mean At t does these campaigns every time a big company releases a new phone

for like a month then they are the same

[teal sphinx]

That's nice

[livid perch]

but i mean youd want to upgrade when the phone arrives anyway so like the time you upgrade will be when there is a campaign mostly and i think the deal is quite sweet

[teal sphinx]

Sadly I've never seen anything similar in my country. At least not to that extent

[livid perch]

u can even upgrade every year without any difference if you pay 10$ monthly

[stoic nova]

Meanwhile in america

[livid perch]

sadly

[livid perch]

verizon so ass

its the vadofone of the US

[stoic nova]

Idk man

Works?

[livid perch]

only thing i hear about them is ass

never used em

at least for me i didnt see any reason with going with them because the deals they give are generally equal or worse to better providers like t mobile or at t

wouldnt mind checking them out some time tho

[stoic nova]

I think I'm just a really old customer with them

Better part of 19 years with them by now? Idk but.

[livid perch]

oo thats dope

[stoic nova]

I don't think I pay too much

[livid perch]

ive used Turk telekom in turkey for like 12 years because my father worked there

and last summer when i went to turkey for the summer vacation

them mfs lit scammed me

[teal sphinx]

btw our telco also doing promotion for trade in

but s22 ultra would yield you 200$ off

[livid perch]

i got a 7000 lira bill from using 2gb because i appreantly over used it whilest my phone was lit not unlocked

and appreantly the data dont just close when it runs out

what kind of system is that bro

[stoic nova]

They actually trade in like they intend to resell it?

[teal sphinx]

oh with cracked back you would trade in for 80$

[livid perch]

so i moved to Turkcell which is like the T mobile of turkey i think and i was getting 30gb for less liras than i was paying for 2 gb somehow

[stoic nova]

Dude our trade ins are arbitrary. I think they scrap what isn't newer than 2 years. Their goal is just to get you on yearly contracts

[livid perch]

ooh god.

[livid perch]

yea

[teal sphinx]

oh btw monthly bill is at 50$ for 3 years

[livid perch]

im paying 180

[teal sphinx]

OHHH

[stoic nova]

Holy man

[teal sphinx]

i thought you were paying 5$?

[livid perch]

for 4 lines and 3 new phones and 1 unlocked one

[livid perch]

thats for the phone

[stoic nova]

Turk telecom

[teal sphinx]

ohhh..

[livid perch]

nah nah At t im in the us rn

[teal sphinx]

Now it makes way more sense

i was like thea telco is basically giving you free phone

[stoic nova]

Oh he's a dad

[livid perch]

i mean 4 unlimited lines, 2 S26u, 1 17pm and 1 payed off other iphone

for 180 aint that bad

that 180 includes the lines and the 5 dollars each for the locked phones

[stoic nova]

At one point unlimited data used to mean. Unlimited if not congested

[teal sphinx]

Can you unlock them after contract ended?

[stoic nova]

I don't think that's a thing anymore right

[livid perch]

yeah

[stoic nova]

We're getting half a gigabit everywhere we go right?

[livid perch]

yeah def not

[livid perch]

nah

im getting like 100-250mb down and 50 down mostly where i am