tech-chat-1

[distant spire]

ok nice nice, thanks for that

So no need to swap out my C drive? lol

[rigid fjord]

no, not at all

that would be dumb in your case

you literally don't want your OS drive on the same drive you're storing your vids to

[distant spire]

ok perfect, thanks for your help

[unique belfry]

My first build and it took me 2 days to build

[ornate harbor]

I dont have a webcam but does that actually work decently?

[hallow jasper]

According to the handful of user accounts I just read, kinda but not very well.

And seems everyone just plays with it for 5 minutes and removes it

apparently causes issues with some games

[stray portal]

what is this new block on minecraft

[jovial swan]

someones offered med 8250 dkk / 1299.98 USD for my desktop, what yall think?
its specs is in my bio

[hearty olive]

i have tried it, it works but it’s totally stupid and anyone who really wants to know what’s on your screen can generally tell regardless

it doesn’t black everything else out it just mildly blurs it

[ornate harbor]

So not worth installing

[steep socket]

hello

gee… sure is boring around here

dang it genuinely is dead…

[ivory mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-gif-848912551340513

[ivory mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-gif-25836431

[steep socket]

my bad

anyone have experience with cloning hdds tho?

i have a 2009 windows 7 install i’m trying to clone to a new disk

[solid tundra]

i just bought 120hz monitors and when i go to change refresh rate it only goes up to 100hz any help?

[steep socket]

try enabling “show display settings this monitor may not support” if it shows up in display settings in advanced

or check if your cable is rated for above 100

[solid tundra]

where?

[steep socket]

wait huh?

[solid tundra]

do i not have it?

[formal sonnet]

How is this monitor connected to your PC? HDMI or DisplayPort?

[steep socket]

it should be here in your control panel

[solid tundra]

hdmi

[empty token]

hello everynyan!! does anyone have any prebuilt(sigh) recommendations? its for my boyfriend, he wouldn’t know the first thing about building a pc and doesn’t know anyone to have it built for him, his budget is around 1k

[steep socket]

no idea ngl

[ivory mountain]

azumanga daioh mentioned

[formal sonnet]

Wait, that monitor only goes up to 100Hz... Unless I'm looking at the wrong monitor. https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/56dd3949

[tulip sparrow]

Sony making bad choices all around https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-shuts-down-bluepoint-games-dev-behind-consistently-great-remakes/1100-6538292/

[steep socket]

welp

what did we learn people

[fresh escarp]

so i have a rx 6600 xt 8gb pulse, i want to upgrade my cpu to a ryzen 7 5700x, would be decent idea?

[steep socket]

do you need to upgrade your cpu?

[solid tundra]

thats weird where i bought it it said 120hz and on the cardboard box it says 120hz too

[formal sonnet]

Sounds like false advertising...

[fresh escarp]

i feel like yes, for IT related and gaming, cpu-wise

[steep socket]

maybe the cable is slightly lower rated than the monitor?

[steep socket]

what do you do on ig?

[solid tundra]

im using the cables that came with the monitor

[solid tundra]

they are very trusted

[tulip sparrow]

Don't forget the movie side of things as well LOL

[steep socket]

try a 120hz+ rated different amicable

[solid tundra]

i dont have that

[steep socket]

wat brand?

[fresh escarp]

what do i do on where?

[tulip sparrow]

They should have given plenty opf those movies to the animation darprtment but nope

[steep socket]

what do you do on the PC (sorry can’t type very well)

[fresh escarp]

im a developer so thats a category, cpu intensive games, and anything else around there

[steep socket]

yeah it might be worth upgrading, what fps are you lookin for?

[fresh escarp]

even tho i have an 1440p screen, im okay playing on 1080p, or even FSR on 1440p upscaling, meaning cpu matters too

[solid tundra]

its a phillips monitor but im talking about the store i bought it from, its a very popular store across my whole country

[steep socket]

phillips is insane

[solid tundra]

wdym

[steep socket]

talk about ancient brand, new monitor… anyways yeah try a different cable, if not it’s either the monitor or windows

[solid tundra]

my windows should be fine

but it wouldnt make any sense if the cable that came with the monitor doesnt support 120hz

[formal sonnet]

Welp, this is why we don't buy Phillips monitors in our household. Looks like they've made different revisions of the EXACT same model number (unless I'm blind) over the years.
https://www.documents.philips.com/assets/20240321/c411002c96ae4d1fb4a3b13a0114de39.pdf
https://www.documents.philips.com/assets/20240207/748970603d134a54b330b10f011d75da.pdf

Both the above PDFs are spec sheets for the same model number, but the issuing date on the last pages of each PDF is 3 years apart...

[solid tundra]

why tf would they do that

[formal sonnet]

A great question... For the manufacturer to answer. If the display actually supported 120Hz it should be able to do that just fine over its HDMI 1.4 port.
https://linustechtips.com/topic/729232-guide-to-display-cables-adapters-v2/?output=HDMI

[fresh escarp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDM_JIyhVSE this video shows that the gpu is taking 100% cause it cant deliver as high frames as the cpu, so im just ughhhh

oooh i realized he uses max settings

[indigo basin]

does anyone here understand the supermicro IPMI software
how do i make it stop complaining about the fan
its a noctua fan so its RPM drops too low for it to be happy

[solid tundra]

so i fell victim into false advertising?

[formal sonnet]

No idea. All I can say is what I can find online. It's very possible the store didn't even know because the model numbers are the same. It's also possible someone swapped the same model of monitor once they found one that had the higher refresh rate. You should confirm the serial number on the monitor matches the one on the box.

[unique aspen]

ig my graphic driver imploded

[solid tundra]

maybe this explains it?

[formal sonnet]

Perhaps. You can try it. If this is how Phillips expects you to make 120Hz work, they should make this clearer or document it in the user manual.

[solid tundra]

what will overclocking do to my monitor

[steep socket]

not much

it might wear down a little faster

it’s generally not that big of an issue

[formal sonnet]

Same thing overclocking does to a PC - it will try to let the control board allow a device to display a resolution or refresh rate it doesn't natively support. It might let it display more than its native refresh rate, or it might not.

[solid tundra]

can i keep a 100% uptime of overclocking?

[steep socket]

i don’t even think it’s worth 20 more fps

[solid tundra]

yeah that was it..

[steep socket]

what

[solid tundra]

i overclocked it and it shows 120hz

[steep socket]

that’s so abnormal, they expect you to over lock it

[formal sonnet]

Yep. Pissy marketing. You don't advertise a car can do 0-60km/h in "5 seconds" without also explaining that this particular car requires 97 Octane fuel, an aftermarket turbo, and a Honda K engine swap... And yet... Phillips

[steep socket]

philips is notorious for being just

rebranded shit nowdays

[versed ferry]

TFW you use an app to automatically share your workout data on your smart watch until someone realized you jerked a 5K in the shower

Thanks Chris Boden

[bronze summit]

Oh to drive a 90s Honda Civic that's properly maintained and well tuned

[steep socket]

what the

[solid tundra]

btw is this normal while playing cs2?

[versed ferry]

Not my fault dude was stupid

[steep socket]

yes

wait no hell no

actually idk cuz it’s a 40 series which makes me think no, but then it’s a 60 which is like… eh

[versed ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-bugs-nod-nodding-yes-gif-17944083

[versed ferry]

You want accurate data use HWINFO

Task Manager is only going to tell you how much of the GPU is running at the current level, not the full utilization. 78% GPU utlization on task manager doesn't necessarily mean 78% of the entire GPU's capacity.

[bronze summit]

24 gigabytes what the helly

[stray portal]

I love linux its so great

[steep socket]

my gpu has 64mb lmao

[solid tundra]

u mean ram?

[steep socket]

oh

[bronze summit]

24 Gigs of Ram is weird

[steep socket]

fr

[solid tundra]

better than 16

[steep socket]

is 3 or 12 weirder?

[solid tundra]

8x3

[stray portal]

Or use the gpu manufacturers software

[steep socket]

i have 1x2 and 1x1gb

[versed ferry]

That doesn't mean the total VRAM. You see that on Dedicated GPU Memory to the right. See here. Believe it or not my GPU does not have 71GB of VRAM

[azure topaz]

either way the answer is yes it’s fine

it’s not worth downloading a whole bunch of extra shit to be told yes

if the game feels fine then no need to be worried

[versed ferry]

That's why I said yes, but if you want accurate data download HWINFO

[azure topaz]

you didn’t say yes

oh the gif didn’t load my bad

mobile

[stray portal]

We need linus os

And it gives us tech tips

[steep socket]

top ten biggest airballs

[azure topaz]

fortnite os and it helps me crank 90s

[stoic nova]

task manager has collectively psyoped us into thinking utilization is not a ton of coalesced variables

[solid tundra]

what exactly am i suposed to understand from this

[versed ferry]

Use sensors

[fresh escarp]

Well at the end idk if i do upgrade my cpu lmao, kinda lost

[solid tundra]

where

[stoic nova]

this is a good summary

[azure topaz]

that’s a good question, what are you trying to figure out atp?

[azure topaz]

top left of the main window it should say “sensors”

click it

[versed ferry]

At startup you can click "Sensors only" or when you open that thing on the page behind that one at the top there should be a sensors button

[bronze summit]

What the fuck are you talking bout

[steep socket]

lmao

[stoic nova]

I said it once and Ill say it again

task manager has collectively psyoped us into thinking utilization is not a ton of coalesced variables

[steep socket]

https://tenor.com/view/cretoi-icssmoke-gif-18150152580473674997

[bronze summit]

I'm talking about the unusual amount of RAM, 24gb is uncommon, that's what I'm questioning

[stray portal]

John pork os

[bronze summit]

Task Manager? You mean the Startup Machine?

[steep socket]

i thought 24 was actually common

[stray portal]

And it just calls you

[azure topaz]

doesn’t seem like you’re in a game anymore, so yeah this is fine

i’m still not sure what you’re figuring out rn lowkey

[steep socket]

tf does this have to do with his ram

[bronze summit]

I'm not talking about that

[solid tundra]

i just bought this gpu and i bought it used but it should be in good condition

[azure topaz]

it’s totally fine broski

[steep socket]

😂

[stoic nova]

the greatest gpu ram misunderstanding

[stray portal]

Oh no its over you got scammed

[solid tundra]

overall its a good gpu right?

[steep socket]

it’s a beast

[bronze summit]

Literally clarified it here aiya

[violet wing]

I have a 5600 32gb ram and a 7600 should I upgrade or build a new pc

[azure topaz]

depends on price but it’s in good working condition yes

[steep socket]

i would kill to have a 40 anything

[stray portal]

You got lucky it didnt explode right away

[versed ferry]

Then maybe say what the hell you're talking about since I was responding to the guy saying "24gig what the hell" about the guys 4060 and saying that doesn't mean it has 24gigs of VRAM. Read the thread.

[stray portal]

upgrade plss am4 is the best

[steep socket]

tf do you mean? you have a perfectly good pc

[solid tundra]

i paid 800 nis which translates to 255 usd

[azure topaz]

yikes but whatever

probably country diff i cant say if its a good or bad price

[violet wing]

I wanna play on 1440p and I do light game development and my pc is lacking

[solid tundra]

not a great deal?

[azure topaz]

people can upgrade their computer

[steep socket]

fair

[azure topaz]

i just said idk, i don’t live where you do

[steep socket]

he still has really good specs

[bronze summit]

I clarified it here you're the one who had to explain it brother

[azure topaz]

to be honest i could see why one would upgrade off them even for 1080p

[stray portal]

Bro using shekels 💔💔

[steep socket]

1080p is surely not that bad

[violet wing]

Do u think I should build a new pc or just upgrade

[stray portal]

Get the big benjamin to help you

[azure topaz]

sometimes people want more fps than you want lol

[bronze summit]

People just want to say shit for no reason 🤷‍♂️

[solid tundra]

gave me a discount

[steep socket]

i game in 3:2 720p lol

[bronze summit]

Idk how Benjamin Franklin can help unless we talking C-Notes but alrn

[azure topaz]

you can do whatever you want, you have to build a new pc regardless if you want to upgrade lmao

[steep socket]

fuck ass emojis autcorrect

[stray portal]

Netenyahu

[azure topaz]

you have no routes for a cpu upgrade unless you go to am5 or lga 1700

this means buying a new motherboard and cpu at minimum

[violet wing]

I mean can’t I get like a 5700x3d or 5800x3d and then get a 9070

[bronze summit]

Bro I gave you an out and you decided to make it political

[azure topaz]

that’s basically a new computer lol

[steep socket]

15% cloned drive per hour

[azure topaz]

heah if you want to overpay 9 million dollars be my guest

[solid tundra]

overall what would be my setup rated

[azure topaz]

5700x3d and 5800x3ds are more costly than the am5 versions rn

[stray portal]

its not political he is so generous helps us

[azure topaz]

a pretty normal computer

[violet wing]

I see some in my local area for 150-180

[bronze summit]

I get 600fps on my 4070 Super and 7600X I am in peace 🧘

[azure topaz]

up to you if it’s worth it

[versed ferry]

I would prefer a 1080p oled vs a 4k IPS but that's just me. Everyone is different. All depends on your screen size and how far away you're sitting from it. At a certain point having a higher resolution literally doesn't matter as you can't see the difference. But that entirely depends on your screen size, the resolution, and how far you're sitting away from it.

[stray portal]

Ur paying the difference in ram tho not worth

[azure topaz]

i think i’d still go ddr5 instead

[stray portal]

Ddr5 so much more expensive

[azure topaz]

with a 7600 or something

rn basically the best thing to do is ignore that you have a slow computer

buy other things for your setup that are still priced ok and get new hw later

[violet wing]

If I do upgrade to am5 would a 7600 be enough for 1440p and light game development or do I need a new gpu also

[azure topaz]

7600 is more than fine

[bronze summit]

Facts

[versed ferry]

Yeah sorry I thought you were saying something else originally. Yeah a lot of people aren't used to the 24gb and 48gb sticks of ram. I personally have a 2x48gb kit and even I think it's weird after knowing 8,16,32 for so long

[stray portal]

If u want 1440p u can just upgrade your gpu and keep your cpu, with the extra money get a better gpu

1440p is more gpu heavy so procesor is less important

[azure topaz]

i agree with the nothing this sentence provided

oh he fixed it nvm

[violet wing]

I see the word gpu 3 times last time I check a pc only had 1 lol

[stray portal]

Fixed it wrongly

[azure topaz]

this doesn’t stop games he’s already limited in rn tho lol

[steep socket]

i’d prefer a 1080p plasma over a 1080p oled ngl

personal preference

[azure topaz]

wa

[violet wing]

?

[versed ferry]

Plasma is cool because plasma has plasma in the name ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[azure topaz]

this guy just sayin shi

[versed ferry]

never owned a plasma

[steep socket]

OLED before OLED

[sleek remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

[empty rampart]

imagine a 4k crt

[violet wing]

This take might spawn in the big yaho

[steep socket]

no.

it would legit blow up

[valid nexus]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1474170250076356689

[versed ferry]

3840x2160i would go hard

[steep socket]

imagine how strong that vaccum would have to be

[versed ferry]

Who needs the p when you have the i

[empty rampart]

ikr, and the responsiveness of crt was just something else

[versed ferry]

"You literally can't even see the interlacing! Nobody needs all the pixels at once!"

[steep socket]

doesn’t interlaced also refresh faster

[stray portal]

It might improve it a little

[steep socket]

my plasma can do both 1080p and 1080i but idk which to pick

[solid tundra]

i have my old 1650 gtx and i have 2 gpu slots would it be any good if added that on top of my current gpu?

[stray portal]

I have a 5700x and 7800xt and i sometimes used to get better fps on 1440p, now i just use 1080p

[azure topaz]

literally how

[versed ferry]

In the vast majority of cases (IE gaming) no.

[azure topaz]

it’ll be the same or within margin of error if it is not worse

[versed ferry]

Maybe for lossless scaling

MAYBE

But second GPU power matters when you do that.

[empty rampart]

or for streaming

if you just make it so thats the only function of it

[bronze summit]

What do you generally play?

[stray portal]

Yes you can do gpu passthrough in vms

Or for encoding or streaming

[steep socket]

i wonder why dual gpu setups aren’t more common

i know the gains are minimal but

[versed ferry]

Because SLI is dead and not enough games used it as is.

[steep socket]

it looks cool

[azure topaz]

because it doesn’t exist today in gaming

[sleek remnant]

as second gpu i would use for c2me

[solid tundra]

out of the heavy games cs2, rust grounded

[azure topaz]

there’s no gains period lol the games just cry

[empty rampart]

they are common in professional PCs

they arent common because its really useless for gaming

[bronze summit]

Groundednlet me see

[steep socket]

i knew an absolutely insane person who had a quad SLI windows XP setup

[bronze summit]

Said people actually play Grounded? Wow the more you know ig

[versed ferry]

There were always problems with SLI anyways. It's better to just get one beefy card than two even for a significant chunk of SLIs life span.

[solid tundra]

one of the reasons i upgraded gpus is so i could play grounded 2

[empty rampart]

I had quad gtx 980s back in like 2016-2017 or so

[steep socket]

nah dude it was insane, this mf had FOUR GTX titan blacks

[empty rampart]

I got the GPUs for 50€ a piece from a friend of mines office

[azure topaz]

hey man

[empty rampart]

and I was just fuck it, we ball

[bronze summit]

He was forced to play an Obsidian Entertainment Game that's not Wasteland or New Vegas 💔

[azure topaz]

don’t forget that at one point in time getting 2 gtx 960s was the best option

[smoky zealot]

Can someone help me with my keyboard problem, I think it’s my pc because it’s happened 2x already. And I just bought the wooting

[steep socket]

i bet it looked sick

[azure topaz]

better than a 980 and iirc it was as expensive/a little cheaper

[solid tundra]

he?

[empty rampart]

it was 4 very small dual fan 980s lol

[steep socket]

oh lol

[azure topaz]

can’t forget where we came from smh

[steep socket]

typa shit you’d see in a history exam

[stray portal]

I love fallout

I wish there was an infinite fallout

[sleek remnant]

fuck man i dont know what otdo

[versed ferry]

The Chosen One

[empty rampart]

99% sure it was these ones

[steep socket]

still would look sick

[stray portal]

I have to replay 3 and new vegas i havent played them in a while

Also if i ever play the first ones should i get them on gog or steam? Would gog even let me play them on linux

[versed ferry]

I'm just waiting to see the remasters at this point. I'm playing Fallout 2 right now.

[azure topaz]

not small then btw LOL

i had a radeon ver of the same model, while they are 2 fan they’re pretty big

[empty rampart]

like half the size of the triple fan version tho

[azure topaz]

yeah fair

still bigger than some 3 fans today tho

[steep socket]

what’s the biggest gpu atm

[azure topaz]

take a guess

[empty rampart]

after that setup i got a 1080ti strix and now a tuf 4070ti super

[steep socket]

server nvidia card

[stray portal]

3050 low profile

[steep socket]

??

[versed ferry]

Up to you. But I'd use the mod Fallout Et Tu (ports the first game into the 2nd games engine plus a bunch of other good stuff) and Fallout 2 Restoration Project for the 2nd game. You could just go with the unofficial patch, but the restoration project comes with the unofficial patch.

[azure topaz]

pro blackwell pretty small

[solid tundra]

i have this issue i think i tried almost everything to fix it but everytime i "fix" it my pc restarts and the problems occurs again i cant use my nvme 980 ssd m.2 slot card and i dont know if its a software or a hardware problem

[stray portal]

oo nice

[steep socket]

fucking SCSI

i haven’t seen that in decades

[solid tundra]

?

[steep socket]

SCSI is like… what… 40 years old now?

[solid tundra]

what is it?

[empty rampart]

next gen nvidia gonna need one of these bad boys

[steep socket]

came after MFM and before IDE

[azure topaz]

bro we using scsi rn

[steep socket]

it’s an old connector for HDDs

[versed ferry]

I don't care how much nostalgia anyone has for it PS2 mouse and keyboard ports sucked ass

[solid tundra]

i dont have an hdd tho

[versed ferry]

USB Master Race

[steep socket]

not really, they have zero delay

[solid tundra]

its a m.2 slot

[azure topaz]

this doesn’t matter

[versed ferry]

If you can't hot swap I don't want it.

[steep socket]

who is unplugging a keyboard anyway

[azure topaz]

“0 delay” doesn’t matter when the alternative better in every way has a basically immeasurable amount of latency difference

there’s a lot more factors inside the computer for input lag than just the port type

[steep socket]

yeah it’s mostly for extreme overclockers now

[azure topaz]

really not even then

[solid tundra]

i still dont understand the issue in my pc?

[azure topaz]

i don’t think any of the platforms today have usb dropout issues with how cold they can go before a cold boot bug

[valid nexus]

How are those specs

[steep socket]

good

[azure topaz]

price is more important

[steep socket]

better than mine at least

[azure topaz]

5900 is a bit of an L cpu

respectfully i’m sure a lot of people have better

[valid nexus]

$2,799

[empty rampart]

USD????

[azure topaz]

jump off a bridge

[valid nexus]

CAD

[steep socket]

L cpu? i think that thing can run literal thousands of laps ahead of mine

[empty rampart]

for cheaper you can get a 5700x3d

[azure topaz]

that’s awesome that change the fact it’s really not a great option lol

[azure topaz]

probably not especially today, but the normal 8 cores game better

[steep socket]

ah

[azure topaz]

the 5900 is a 6 core and another 6 core glued together

the 5800x/5700x are just 8 cores in one group

[empty rampart]

I had a 5900x and "downgraded" from it to a 5700x3d because almost no games utilize the cores

[steep socket]

is a 4 core bad in 2026?

[azure topaz]

the 5900 being 2 cpus in one brings issues

most games are slower etc

[tidal geyser]

Ipc

[solid tundra]

bump

[azure topaz]

yeah i don’t like amds naming and product segmentation

[stray portal]

What would be the best am4 cpu for minecraft or something

[tidal geyser]

But mostly yes

[steep socket]

?

[stray portal]

minecraft

[steep socket]

i’m getting one to upgrade my 2 core

[azure topaz]

no reason that consistently every gen that the x900 sku is worse than the x800 sku for gaming

gotta be on purpose

[empty rampart]

one thing I dont enjoy about amd is that they basically need to be undervolted to get the most out of them

[tidal geyser]

Modern 4 core CPUs are good but games are staying to finally use e cores

Or more than 4 cores

[steep socket]

oh the one i’m getting is 4th gen intel

[azure topaz]

x3d bro lol

[empty rampart]

like with most 3d CPUs you can pretty easily get 20% extra performance 100% stable

[steep socket]

i’m not complaining, my current cpu is basically one core

[stray portal]

Does minecraft even utilise x3d

[tidal geyser]

I love how there was a trend a few years ago of people buying like 20 core xeons to game on, as some games managed to use most of em but the issue was most did not.

[steep socket]

i might get a xeon to put in

[azure topaz]

it’s cache. you just asked if java uses memory

we all know the answer to that one

[steep socket]

is it bad this has taken nearly 2 hours

[stray portal]

... no?

[rose stream]

Iiiiii'd start at around a 3300X and end at a 5950X. Lol.

[stray portal]

java is bad with tons of ram so idk how it would be with cache

[azure topaz]

java is pretty memory bound in almost every situation

[azure topaz]

tons of ram is like tens of hundreds of gigs not 384mb lol

[steep socket]

how is x3d higher than my total igpu memory

[azure topaz]

cache is pretty beneficial to any scenario where the cpu is forced to wait on memory

[steep socket]

including DVMT

[magic pike]

RM1000 inside

[azure topaz]

because cache is faster than memory and if you can keep things there instead of making a long trip it’s faster

[magic pike]

Il open up a RM1000X and CX750F RGB tomorrow

[rose stream]

Speaking of MC Java, did you hear about the next following update outlook from Mojang involving Vibrant Visuals becoming a main thing on Java too?

[empty rampart]

opening a PSU always makes me uneasy

[midnight drift]

best browser

?

[steep socket]

imagine one day where x3d cache gets to the gigabytes

[azure topaz]

no, i saw them move bedrock to vulkan/plan to

[azure topaz]

we are getting there

[steep socket]

jesus christ

[azure topaz]

thread ripper/epyc with gb’s of cache

[steep socket]

10 years ago we were still on 2 core cpus

wtf happened for cpus to explode in power

[rose stream]

That's not what I heard (though I wouldn't be surprised if they moved Bedrock off of DirectX for "parity reasons". Lol).

[azure topaz]

i don’t think we were

[plain cypress]

Eventually xeons with gigabytes of adamantine cache

[azure topaz]

10 years ago we had like haswell

[steep socket]

20 sorry

[azure topaz]

which was 4 core if you didn’t hate yourself at a minimum

[magic pike]

I bought a lot of a RM1000X, RM1000, EVGA 1000GQ, and a CX750F RGB for 35 bux, the 1000GQ just works XD and il try to repair the others

[plain cypress]

Tail end of quad core era

[steep socket]

most people had c2ds

[azure topaz]

c2q was real too

[steep socket]

20 years ago at least

[rose stream]

Anyway, I'm guessing you haven't seen it yet, soooo...
Here's what I think they've had Rogue up to lately.
https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/another-step-towards-vibrant-visuals-for-java-edition

[magic pike]

I sold a Core 2 Pentium E5300 industrial system for 4 figures last month with 2gb ram and no disk

[azure topaz]

but yeah they were expensive

[plain cypress]

In 2016? Bro do you know what year it is

[steep socket]

wtf

[plain cypress]

How did we go from 10 years ago to 20 years ago

[steep socket]

i said i had a spelling error

[empty rampart]

I'm assuming you definitely know your shit, opening a PSU can be lethal

[steep socket]

“20 years ago sorry”

[jaunty apex]

The hwat

[plain cypress]

20 years ago I had a GBA

[steep socket]

no one’s using it tho

[midnight drift]

💀

[steep socket]

java is already modded

2 hours for my disk to clone at 20%

[rose stream]

Go here.
#tech-chat-1 message

[steep socket]

we are cooked chat

[jaunty apex]

Holy shit native Minceraft Vulkan support

[steep socket]

wtf

since when???

[magic pike]

Yeah I do XD, also Corsair was smart enough to put a resistor across the big boy capacitors, so they self discharge in like 45s

[steep socket]

psus are scary shit

[jaunty apex]

Scroll up to the link with vibrant visuals

[steep socket]

the chinese people making them have balls

[azure topaz]

💀

[azure topaz]

i just said that

[magic pike]

I mean not really if you know how to handle

[jaunty apex]

I just read it

[azure topaz]

oh ok kiss me

idk if they’re gonna put it in java

[jaunty apex]

😳

[azure topaz]

i mean i’d assume but idk how it works im regarded

[rose stream]

Floppa... I literally just posted the link.

[jaunty apex]

Its java, yes

[azure topaz]

well why’d you turn embeds off

[rose stream]

You too probably should read that.

They aren't off. It just won't show.

[azure topaz]

there wasn’t a big image of minecraft in my face how was i supposed to know

[azure topaz]

well that’s your problem not mine (i’m reading it)

[steep socket]

is an I5-4670S, 8 GB RAM & a Palit Geforce GTX 750 Ti 2GB for 40 dollars a good deal

[rose stream]

It's not if I'm telling you to go and read it on their site. Lmao.

[jaunty apex]

Can't believe it's coming to java though, this is such a huge W. Idk how much I'll play it as opposed to Vintage Story still but pretty big

[sleek remnant]

holy shitt

[azure topaz]

nuhuh nuhuh

[azure topaz]

i mean 40$ is the most i’d pay for that sure

4670S is an L

[steep socket]

how

[azure topaz]

buy an E3 1230 V3

[sleek remnant]

they're gonna switch to Vulkan? damn

[steep socket]

could do

[azure topaz]

4 cores 4 threads, slow

[steep socket]

what’s its core count

[azure topaz]

power limited cause of the “S”

[steep socket]

it’s probably better than the pentium T3290 in my system

[rose stream]

Also, apparently it's hit the scene and now even youtubers like Kasai has caught onto it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pxALpChPd8

[azure topaz]

it’s basically an i7 equivalent, 4c 8t no igpu

[steep socket]

i might get it

[azure topaz]

should be cheaper than a 4770

[steep socket]

would my psu be able to handle it

[azure topaz]

no sweat

[sleek remnant]

Shader mods developer is cooked

[azure topaz]

doesn’t even matter if you have a prebuilt

[clear canyon]

why is longhorn getting an old cpu?

[azure topaz]

prolly not many options wherever they are

[clear canyon]

it actually can

[steep socket]

it’s 180W

[azure topaz]

it’ll be fine

the cpu draws hardly anymore power than the one you’d be replacing it with

[steep socket]

i have a gtx 750ti in there too tho

[steep socket]

ah i see

[azure topaz]

bruv it will be good

if a cpu drawing 10-15 more watts at most is what tips your psu over the edge it wasn’t good beforehand either

[clear canyon]

oh my

[rose stream]

Eeehh sorta. Some of them I think were dabbling with Vulkan and I do recall two things with vulkan devs in the MC community: one tried doing hardware RT shader enabling with experimental shaders of their own, and the VulkanMod dev, xCollateral, had expressed before that they wanted to add shader support to their mod at some point.

[steep socket]

?

[rose stream]

It's basically been floated around and a few probably tried. They didn't stick to it though because there wasn't much incentive to keep trying to, especially if not very many people would mess with that implementation.

[clear canyon]

its old lol

[steep socket]

my current setup is older

[azure topaz]

what country?

[clear canyon]

why run such an old setup?

[steep socket]

poverty

[clear canyon]

damn

[steep socket]

UK

[azure topaz]

damn

[rose stream]

Now... There might finally be an excuse for shader devs and people who play with shaders to try Vulkan.

[azure topaz]

if you were us i’d send you some crap thing but you’re not

[steep socket]

Rupert will fix us up surely

[steep socket]

i really do need to upgrade

[azure topaz]

unfortunate

been in that boat before

[sleek remnant]

ima try iris with vulkanmod

idk if its compatible

[jaunty apex]

I don't think it is tbh

[steep socket]

im coming from a pentium dual core

[rose stream]

It's not.

[sleek remnant]

im gonna try, fuck will happens

[jaunty apex]

https://github.com/xCollateral/VulkanMod/wiki/Incompatible-mods

[rose stream]

Iris was made for Sodium and forks of it.

[azure topaz]

yeah i mean

[rose stream]

So it most certainly won't work.

[azure topaz]

we’ve all had really slow/old computers

standards go up as we get older

[sleek remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler1-rage-gif-18980459

[steep socket]

not like this…

[jaunty apex]

It being incompatible with create is sort of a deal breaker for me. Not to mention sodium

[azure topaz]

bro you don’t want to know my first computer lmfao

[steep socket]

i do

[azure topaz]

i had a worst first computer, basically same specs as yours but a 60GB hdd lmao

i promise a slow computer is not exclusive to you

[steep socket]

it feels like it these days

everyone’s got at least 4 cores

[jaunty apex]

Should see the guy still on an atom with XP supposedly

[azure topaz]

😭fr

[steep socket]

he’s larping that surely

[azure topaz]

my first desktop computer had a gpu so bad i was gpu bound in minecraft with an i5 2400

[steep socket]

i think my gpu won’t even run minecraft

[azure topaz]

i mean you have a 20 year old 2 core laptop

might be able to run max payne

[steep socket]

probably

how long will this shadow copy take

[azure topaz]

that is what i played on my first laptop

[steep socket]

i’m cloning my 2009 win7 install and it’s taking ages

would it be safe to leave it overnight?

[ivory mountain]

holy shit theirs dookie on my screen

[steep socket]

we used to skin people like you alive

[ivory mountain]

that sounds like it hurts

[steep socket]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-gif-338783462287106063

[indigo basin]

does anyone understand supermicro server software

none of the docs match what the software can do

im so baffled

and why wont it boot into anything
or detect drives

[lean heron]

hello

any virus total users ?

[sleek remnant]

well go find out

[lean heron]

clicked on an exe i should not

[indigo basin]

IVE TRIED

this server is my last resort

[lean heron]

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/b1c9227239b6baf93806c5503dbba53206acdcc3a9c185405c9867b430a366dd/detection

is a full system scan enough because it detected and removed virus but i still have my doubts

[sleek remnant]

get malwarebytes

[lean heron]

did the thing where u install it and scan

it found stuff and got rid of it

changed password on discord and gmail for now

[sleek remnant]

good, be careful next time

[lean heron]

i should not be worried

rn ?

[frigid topaz]

Is this deal worth it? My buddy has a rx6600 and he wants my rx 580 8gb rog strix, 70 euros, i7 4790s, 16gb ddr3, oem motherboard and a cooler for it

[sleek remnant]

well i dont remember my situation about trojan and my opinion is unpredictable

since you did the scan and changed pass, should be good i guess

[lean heron]

the thing is after the scan i found a python.exe running that i got rid of after closing it and deleted its file that was hiding in temp

i was like how did it not detect this , cuz its new

[sleek remnant]

i mean, the best clean up is fresh OS

[lean heron]

prob yea better safe than sorry

[jaunty apex]

Probably change any passwords that were logged into apps or browsers

[jaunty apex]

Weird malwarebytes doesn't detect it here

[molten kayak]

So, I have a really bad or good idea. I get a PCIe x16 enclosure for my M.2 SSD instead of taking out my CPU heatsink to install it in the M.2 slot, which has the added bonus of not requiring me to redo all my cable management so that my two SATA drives in ports 5 and 6 can continue to work.

How much would someone who knows how much speed I'd be losing hate this? For the sake of convenience, I think I'd be opting for PCIe 2.0 instead of 3.0?

[abstract wigeon]

just don’t do this

it’s a cool idea, but free not to

[molten kayak]

Can you explain? How bad is it to do this?

Because I really don't want to take out the CPU heatsink or redo the cables.

[sleek remnant]

[shadow epoch]

Yo guys does anyone know why my pc is on but if i leave it afk for a lil bit it just disconnects everything like it shows no display doesn’t register any inputs from mouse or kb but my pc is still on and the only way i can fix this is if i do a hard restart like turn off the psu and boot up my pc again. Can smn help me

[sleek remnant]

check power plan

[shadow epoch]

I checked it its not that

Heck I’ve turned off sleep frm my windows entirely

Still had this happen

my speakers also got disconnected when it happened

[sleek remnant]

maybe GPU issues or something?

or RAM

i want to fix it aswell, but i dont really care

[shadow epoch]

Wait does this happen to you too wrf

[sleek remnant]

its literally unpredictable

[shadow epoch]

Fckin ima just reinstall my whole windows and drivers

[sleek remnant]

i will try with no XMP/EXPO when it'll happen again

[sleek remnant]

well in my opinion it wont help, which is currently

but you could try, if you want

[shadow epoch]

So wdy recommend

[sleek remnant]

well its tough to say

[shadow epoch]

Its not like my pc won’t turn on at all it goes back to normal when i do a hard restart

[shadow epoch]

Am i cooked

[sleek remnant]

no

i have this almost year

[shadow epoch]

Man i really dont like turning off my pc cuz my mobo gives me bt

Like it has some boot up problems so i just leave my pc on 24/7

[sleek remnant]

i can't really tell what the reason is

psu, gpu, ram, whatever

[shadow epoch]

Should i leave my pc at high performance when i go to slepp you think thatll work

[sleek remnant]

probably no

[shadow epoch]

[sleek remnant]

i don't know the difference plan, so i just use Balanced

[shadow epoch]

Yeah ive been using that one too but i also dont think this is the problem

[sleek remnant]

i cba to fix it

[shadow epoch]

Also do you know if there are any cheap mobo options for b550 with dual m.2 slots

I might just change my mobo and shutdown my pc like a normal human

Also Thx for the help yucki, preciate it

[molten kayak]

Did you want to explain your reasoning?

[stoic nova]

I can explain mine, the only 2 real reasons one would not wanna take off the heatsink. Either they dont have paste, or stripped the screw

which one is it?

[molten kayak]

It took me a whole day to install it because it's an incredibly tight fit and without touching the RAM it somehow stopped working. So I'd rather avoid it.

[stoic nova]

this maneuver of yours will be even tighter

[molten kayak]

How?

[stoic nova]

or you can be a chad and deshroud your ram

[grizzled frost]

wonderful example of how half that dimm is useless

[molten kayak]

But how can it be a tighter fit this way and how does deshrouding my RAM help?

[stoic nova]

fuckin rgb.

[molten kayak]

There's nothing near the 2nd PCIe x16 slot.

[stoic nova]

because if you had to torque down against your ram to install your cooler?

the ram is too tall

[grizzled frost]

i hate pcie slots that are physically bigger than they are electrically, just give me an open back PCIe slot so i can actually know how many lanes i'm getting a glance

[stoic nova]

we're pc enthusiasts, the pc is unforgivable to half ass

[molten kayak]

No, I got this cooler specifically for the RAM clearance. My case is just really tight and I got numerous cuts on my hands trying to fit it in.

[fickle ivy]

My Internet has been incredibly slow lately and I can't figure out why

[stoic nova]

can I see this case?

a photo

I want to relate to what you're saying truly

I want to help you have the best outcome here

[fickle ivy]

Like what is this???

[topaz shale]

want to provide more info? if you make a post in #1027757333117415424 and ping me id be happy to help if i can

oh shit that is a lot of jitter. you may have a bad wifi adapter

[stoic nova]

bro you give money to the isp for them not to do this, I'd be calling them

[topaz shale]

https://packetlosstest.com

[topaz shale]

@fickle ivy run this and screenshot the results

[molten kayak]

I appreciate that. What do you want to see exactly? This is a Newegg listing.
https://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9b-11-139-039

[stoic nova]

tight fit? dude that case could be a fishtank with how thick it is

[molten kayak]

The CPU cooler is a Scythe Fuma 3. It has good RAM clearance but the tradeoff is it is wide and tall. It nearly touches the top of the case. Getting my hands where they needed to go to secure it was a nightmare.

[fickle ivy]

Im getting an error trying to start the test

[topaz shale]

ouch

do you have this problem on other devices on the network?

[glass crest]

if i get a GPU crash from cod or the finals, can that corrupt stuff or no

[topaz shale]

is it just your pc?

[glass crest]

idk how much i should worry about it, i get consistent crashes from finals/cod

[fickle ivy]

Yeah, on my laptop in game I have like 20-30% packet loss

And that's about 5 feet from the router

[topaz shale]

how is internet provided to your devices? single router from your isp?

can you try to run packetlosstest on a second device

[molten kayak]

@stoic nova So what I'm really asking is, for gaming, am I losing enough speed that it will really matter if I use a PCIe 2.0 slot (with an enclosure) instead of a PCIe 3.0 slot? My motherboard is old. I'm not going to get the most out of this SSD no matter what.

[fickle ivy]

Yeah give me a second I'll try on my other phone

[sharp ivy]

buh

How do I find a version of wine that works with macos 10.4

I'm rather confused

[grizzled frost]

google

[sharp ivy]

I tried

but could not figure it out

[fickle ivy]

Same error

[topaz shale]

it must be your whole network then

or you just have a shitty router

[fickle ivy]

It's never been like this before

I usually get 200-300mbps and minimal latency and packet loss

Usually 0% packet loss and 10ms latency

[topaz shale]

did you miss a payment maybe?

maybe they throttle the shit out of it if you miss a payment

[fickle ivy]

I don't pay, my mom does, but we are decently well off and I assume not

[sharp ivy]

what provider?

[fickle ivy]

Shaw

[grizzled frost]

Seems not a single person maintains a version of wine for 10.4

all i see is 10.5 and 10.6, and even finding one for something that old is a miracle

[sharp ivy]

I've had issues with my shaw too

occasionally

[fickle ivy]

It also sometimes just completely goes out for like 5 minutes

[sharp ivy]

but usually when there's an issue it just perishes completely

yep

[sharp ivy]

Aww

[grizzled frost]

what are you trying to run

[sharp ivy]

I wanted to play Scav Prototype

[grizzled frost]

hardware wise

[sharp ivy]

It's a 20inch

[fickle ivy]

Ah, core 2 duo, I remember using one of those

[grizzled frost]

my recommendation, throw it away

[fickle ivy]

Haven't improved much

[grizzled frost]

it's not worth the power it consumes

[fickle ivy]

Now I've got an i3 7100u

[sharp ivy]

I got it for $20 from richmond SPCA thrift store

[grizzled frost]

for literally anything

[grizzled frost]

you spent too much

[sharp ivy]

$20CAD

[grizzled frost]

still spent too much

that thing is quite literally worthless, you would have to pay to get it off your hands

[sharp ivy]

but

lovely sound

[fickle ivy]

I spent $13 CAD on a laptop that can run some games on 720p 45fps minimum graphics

Well, I got it for free because it was broken, fixed it and spent $13 on a chargwr

[sharp ivy]

Oh yeah I wasn't going for a good deal or anythin

but just because

nope wrong photo

there

it looks nice

[topaz shale]

this guy likes xboxes

[sharp ivy]

maybeeeeee

[fickle ivy]

This thing gives me an amazing gaming experience, it can't be topped by anything

[fickle ivy]

Hold up, is that an RC plane I see?

[sharp ivy]

Indeedee

T-28 Trojan

[fickle ivy]

Cool

[sharp ivy]

It's a Dynam 1300mm

[sharp ivy]

thx

[sharp ivy]

beautiful

[fickle ivy]

I wanted to get an RC plane but I was scared I would crash it

It was a little like $200 P-51

[sharp ivy]

I had to buy a second one (the FAT) to play Ace Combat 6 cause I got the slim when I lived in NZ but bought the AC6 game disk when I moved back to canada

[sharp ivy]

Oh one of the lil volantex ones?

[fickle ivy]

Im not sure exactly, it was quite a while ago but I'll see if I can find it

[sharp ivy]

I mean it also came with a ton of adobe programs and such

[grizzled frost]

i reiterate, you overspent

[fickle ivy]

It seems to have gone down in price

[sharp ivy]

and I don't mind supporting my favourite thrift store

[sharp ivy]

Oh yep

[fickle ivy]

Im tempted to buy it now that I've done some flight sim stuff but I feel like because it's so small it's gonna be hard to control

But I'm also gonna spend $300 on a new camera lens at the end of the month

[sharp ivy]

It shouldn't be

I've flown someone else's and it was pretty good

and it's a foamie so it'll be quite durable

[fickle ivy]

I just mean fine controls

Like just watching it fly

[sharp ivy]

Are there any local flying fields?

A friendly club is pretty great for trying RC

[fickle ivy]

No, the only field near me is my school field, it's very large flat and open but also very close to the airport

[sharp ivy]

ah

[fickle ivy]

I watched a C-17 land from school before, wish I was closer

[sharp ivy]

I'm in the greater vancouver area and there's a great one near my house

[fickle ivy]

Im getting a new lens for plane spotting

[sharp ivy]

in NZ the closest club I had was an hour away and highly weather dependant

[sharp ivy]

Oooh nice

[fickle ivy]

Im in Alberta and don't have my own car :/

[sharp ivy]

Awh

Well if you can ever make it to a club, they're usually a great place to try RC

unless they're unfriendly and gatekeepy

which I have experienced before

[fickle ivy]

Im getting this bad boy

[tame siren]

talking about lense, body or both? if lense which one is that?

[fickle ivy]

Lens

AF-P DX VR 70-300mm f/4.5-6.3

[tame siren]

oo nice

[mighty summit]

I just won the lottery, guys

[tame siren]

i got myself a sigma 50-200 pretty "recently"

[mighty summit]

I traded my dirty Nintendo switch 1 from literal launch, with no joycons

For an Xbox series s

[tame siren]

paid 70 bucks for it used, autofocus and everything work perfectly fine and for that price its great

[fickle ivy]

This is what I can do with my kit 18-55mm right now so I'm hoping I can get some further planes and more detail with the 70-300mm

[tame siren]

they even gave me a (very old) 2x converter, doesnt support autofocus but at least i can get still shots up to 400mm

[tame siren]

thats gotta be pretty low flying im guessing?

[fickle ivy]

Yep

This is why I want the 70-300mm

[tame siren]

oh yea gear doors are a bit open, my tired ass didnt even see that

i just messed around with windows recovery for like 5h i genuenly cant think anymore

[tame siren]

which body you got?

[fickle ivy]

Yeah here is the unedited

[fickle ivy]

Nikon D3400

Got it for $250 cad with a bag

[frail sequoia]

When I sell my thinkpad imma get this camera and a couple other things

[frail sequoia]

The digicam is 3.7mp iirc

[fickle ivy]

This is one of my favorite photos so far

[frail sequoia]

W

[fickle ivy]

Are you tryna go for that sorta style?

[stoic nova]

my honest answer is coming from what I would do in this event.

I would see that clearly I have a fitment problem and need to address it, the forevermore of time I will spend actually using the computer being sub optimal is not worth the gained hour it will take to fix it.

[frail sequoia]

Yeah, I like old stuff but I have no way of using my 3ds as a camera + a digicam is amazing for what I’m gonna do

[tame siren]

i got a 3500 and man those are some nice pictures

[frail sequoia]

The digicam imma get is a Nikon cooplix 3700

[tame siren]

if the weather wasnt so incredibly shit here id take some too, but really not feeling it with 2°C and rain

[frail sequoia]

I still gotta sell the thinkpad tho

[fickle ivy]

I was standing out in the snow like -10° iirc for that plane photo

[frail sequoia]

Ik a guy who needs a laptop so imma offer him it

That’s the one I have so I’m probs gonna sell it to the guy for £150

[molten kayak]

So you would rebuild the whole thing in a new case? I don't even have space for a bigger case. Thanks but I'm just going to get the enclosure and hope for the best.

[stoic nova]

can you show me what part of your massive case ended up being too tight resulting in numerous cuts on your hand? Because if you dont wanna pull it out because of the pressure on your memory, you have far bigger problems than the speed of your drive

Taking things at face value anyway, but if this explanation is more a result of your inner monologue justifying the lowest effort way to install a drive, well....why even ask for our consultation

[molten kayak]

Who said there's any pressure on the RAM at all? I have said numerous times here that I got the heatsink specifically for the RAM clearance. It seems some people here have their idea of how things should be done to be done perfectly but they're not really ready to answer my actual question. My guess is that they don't know.

The CPU is situated on the board in the only place it can go. The board is situated in the only place in the case where it can go. The heatsink is the size and shape that it is. This means its right up against the top of the case, as I said earlier.

[grizzled frost]

Then what problem are you having if any?

[mint umbra]

Ppl said there was no issues with games on Linux lol lies

[grizzled frost]

depends on the game

[mint umbra]

Deadlock just be bugging out when I try playing it

[fringe prairie]

https://www.protondb.com/app/2562100
its not even rated on protondb

[mint umbra]

After tabbing out and tabbing back in it won't go back to full sized window

Linux ain't Worth if your main use of PC is gaming

[stoic nova]

#tech-chat-1 message

I was asking you why you couldnt take your heatsink off and this what you responded with

seemed legit enough, but now its not?

this is why I made that implication

[molten kayak]

I've already replaced the RAM. I just don't want to deal with any more issues regarding that, as unlikely as they logically should be.

[stoic nova]

so then why cant you take off the heatsink

[main reef]

The RTX 50 series will be the last good gaming cards due to AI

[molten kayak]

I can take it off. It would just probably be difficult to put it back on.

[stoic nova]

whats giving you trouble, the fan clips?

[grizzled frost]

i have lost a fair amount of skin to cpu heatsinks trying to get fan clips on/off

[steel umbra]

Bruh it's midnight watdahell

[grizzled frost]

light pollution maxing

[steel umbra]

Snowlakes

[stoic nova]

all of us have or at some point will have spilled blood over a 24pin

[grizzled frost]

the proximity of dupont pins and a 24pin pcie should be criminal

[stoic nova]

class action type vibe unless its an open standard

[hoary pivot]

Currently I have a i5 10400f. I play very heavy cpu game and my mother bored is only compatible with 10th gen cpus what would be the best cpu under 200 dollars to increase fps???

[grizzled frost]

#1474220628423737436

[molten kayak]

I blocked it out I think but that sounds right. I also remember having a major issue with screws and a cable, though the cable may have been my fault for forgetting to do it earlier when it would have been easier. I think the rest is just the fit in the cae though.

[hoary pivot]

please help

[grizzled frost]

Heres how to help yourself, look up 10th gen intel performance comparisons, then find the most performant one for under 200usd

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
big fan of this site

[stoic nova]

the screws are actually impossible if you dont have a really long and large screwdriver for the average dual tower heatsink

[indigo basin]

the...
THE MOTHERBOARD IS HOTTER THAN THE CPU??

[sinful cobalt]

man discovers water

[indigo basin]

air cooling

[sinful cobalt]

the system isnt under any load temps like that literally dont matter

[indigo basin]

its running 6 docker containers a webserver and a bot

[sinful cobalt]

also that is a fatass CPU cooler compared to ur mobo idk what ur expecting

[indigo basin]

its a dual socket mobo

[grizzled frost]

okay?

i thought that mobo looked familiar

[indigo basin]

x10dri-t4

[grizzled frost]

I have an X9 version of that board

[sleek remnant]

get a liquid nitrogen, you'll be good

[indigo basin]

do you know if theres a way to tweak the idle fan RPMs

[grizzled frost]

i think somewhere in the bios is a super basic fan curve thing

iirc it's legit just like "silent" "performance" "full" or something like that

[indigo basin]

i dont even have silent

[grizzled frost]

I couldn't remember what exactly the options were, but that's about as good as you're gonna get afaik

after using dell IDRAC for so long, supermicro IPMI really sucks

i've had so many issues with the supermicro IPMI and dell's IDRAC just works

[indigo basin]

ipmi is my first experience with something this server grade 😭

[grizzled frost]

My condolences, it really is a shitty introduction to remote management

[indigo basin]

debating on unplugging some of the fans because its so goddamn noisy

theres enough airflow for one cpu to not set itself on fire atleast

[grizzled frost]

What CPU and RAM?

[indigo basin]

xeon e5 2680v4, 64GB RDIMM 2133mhz

[grizzled frost]

Very nice

i'm on the slightly older LGA 2011 platform, instead of LGA 2011-3

So DDR3 to my dismay

[indigo basin]

trying to find a narrow ILM compatible cooler was a nightmare

[grizzled frost]

Almost any cooler is compatible afaik

[indigo basin]

only option was pretty much noctua and server coolers

[grizzled frost]

I used a standard 90mm thermalright tower cooler with LGA 2011 support and it worked without issue

[indigo basin]

LGA 2011-3 and LGA 2011-3 Narrow ILM is different 🫠

[grizzled frost]

ah

Got it, i had assumed it was the same mounting

all my LGA2011-3 servers came with 1u/2u heatsinks

[indigo basin]

very funky spacing

[grizzled frost]

Extremely

I'm running dual 2690v4's with 2x16gb ddr4 2133 per cpu in my dell R630

[indigo basin]

oh jeez thats real nice

swapping the ram made HWiNFO swap how it outputs data

so now something is broken

[grizzled frost]

I also have a custom server using the X9DRI-LN4F+ with dual 2690 0's and 4x64gb ddr3 1333 per cpu

[indigo basin]

and ive just spent 5 hours dealing with the ipmi bullshit

i cant be bothered digging through a CSV figuring out why things dont work 🫠

[indigo basin]

256gb jeez

[grizzled frost]

I could never get the remote desktop to work with the supermicro IPMI

[grizzled frost]

512, it's 256gb per CPU

[indigo basin]

ive atleast got that working

[indigo basin]

oh jeez 😭

[grizzled frost]

granted that was back when ram was super cheap

[indigo basin]

what an earth are you running on that

[grizzled frost]

truenas with 3x4tb hdds in a raidz1, and plex

[indigo basin]

jeez

fair play

i have like 2tb of laptop hdd for jellyfin

[stoic nova]

the cpu only gets its power from the motherboard first so that kinda makes sense

wont be for long though after you open a web browser

[molten kayak]

I installed it about a year ago so I don't remember perfectly but I think it actually came with one. I think it was just the top screw was so close to the top of the case that it had to be screwed in on an angle with very little traction.

[grizzled frost]

My R630 with the 64gb of ram and dual 14 core cpus has 24 1.2tb hdds

[indigo basin]

running the webserver, bot (with a 550MB TTS model) and a terraria server, still cooler than the board

[stoic nova]

I cant help but feel this is a strategic crop to what is like, a 40watt tdp chip

[stoic nova]

^ one sec

nah, cap

post uncropped

[indigo basin]

pulling about 50 watts now that everything has settled but i took that screenshot while everything was still starting up

motherboard is still slightly warmer than the CPU

[stoic nova]

the little heatsink that could I guess

or you live in greenland

[indigo basin]

nah uk

[stoic nova]

and opened a window

[indigo basin]

this is my bedroom i have this server in

😭

[stoic nova]

even with your fans at full speed at low load like that its still pretty, unusual

[indigo basin]

i mean

[valid garden]

whats up guys

[gaunt spade]

fanless psu

[mortal plume]

i hate signalrgb so much it's unreal

it keeps on fucking breaking

nothing works how it's supposed to ever

[frigid topaz]

I need y'alls opinion if this is a good trade, rx 6600 for a rx580, i7 4790s, motherboard, 16gb ddr3, CPU cooler and 60 euros

[mortal plume]

I can't even fucking disable the rgb anymore i genuinely hate this app so much

[grizzled frost]

openRGB ftw

[frigid topaz]

Never even used signal RGB cause I don't even like RGB hahaha

[valid garden]

I find it ineresting that like L4 cache existed but for a very short amiunt of time

[grizzled frost]

i use openRGB to turn off all the rgb in my PC

[grizzled frost]

it was basically just intel's attempt to add more L3 cache, but they couldn't make it L3 due to their poor implementation so made it L4

AMD's X3D chips are far beyond what L4 could ever have been

[valid garden]

eh sorta

L4 was primarily for the iGPU

[grizzled frost]

too bad iGPU's are rather redundant on any x86 platform (save for strix halo)

[valid garden]

only 3 generations of Intel CPUs had CPUs with them, 4th and 5th gen, and for whatever reason a Kaby Lake-R cpu had 128MB of it for the iris pro graphics, being the i3 8109U

[grizzled frost]

I don't see it being worth the additional die size and complexity in manufacturing

[mortal plume]

yeah yeah haha funny, this shit literally won't even turn off if i change a setting in the bios

[grizzled frost]

bigger die, lower yields, higher cost

[mortal plume]

and the only way to reach the rgb header on my motherboard is to remove my gpu

i hate my fucking chud life, destroy all programmers

[frigid topaz]

Not that deep my man

Just some rgb

[mortal plume]

i have had nothing but constant fucking headaches with nearly every piece of software on my pc

[valid garden]

for what? AI? no thanks. I am probably mans biggest vibe coders, and its not worth it =]

[frigid topaz]

Just reset windows and start fresh

[mortal plume]

i think i would rather find a bridge

[valid garden]

I wish AI would begone so I could actually learn something for ONCE

[frigid topaz]

Chill

[mortal plume]

i want it gone so i can build an am5 pc without spending a month's paycheck on ram

[valid garden]

real asf

I mean I cant relate becaue I am intentionally staying on 7th gen intel, but thats still real asf

[frigid topaz]

Call me crazy but for normal gamers I don't see the point of ddr5

[valid garden]

this tbh

I think thats why intel supported ddr4 until like 14th gen

[mortal plume]

helldivers 2 runs like garbage on a 5700x3d

like it's entirely a cpu issue atp

[frigid topaz]

Yeah I bought myself a 16gb ddr4 stick for 40 bucks used

[valid garden]

the only reason im still on 7th gen intel and an rx 580 is because I dont need the power though since my GPU is overheating I will be doing a reasonable upgrade soon

[mortal plume]

i need a more powerful cpu

[frigid topaz]

Gonna use it with my i3 12100f

[frigid topaz]

I got a rx 580 too

[valid garden]

probably the 8GB variant

I have the 4GB one

[frigid topaz]

Ah damn

[valid garden]

my planned upgrade is aimed for upgrade (because my GPUs cooler was botched by MSI on this vsriant, cooling issues), is from an i5 7400 to an i7 7700, and this lousy RX 580 to an RTX 2060 SUPER

[frigid topaz]

I'm still on i7 4790s

[valid garden]

I dont feel like doing a platform upgrade to like the 300 series chipst so I can use 8th gen

[valid garden]

legendary

I have a dual boot running on this i5 7400 PC anyways, Windows 7 and Arch Linux

[frigid topaz]

I payed like 30 bucks for office PC and just added gpu, case and storage and it's a good 1080p gaming pc

[mortal plume]

i got an optiplex with a 4590 on the floor i've been meaning to do things with but i don't feel like making space on the desk to hook it up to a monitor so it's been sitting

[frigid topaz]

I need my win10 or my cheats don't work so yk

[valid garden]

vxkext next is glaring you right in the face

[valid garden]

tbh id get office PC to upg but I have what I have rn

might as well work with it

[mortal plume]

yeah i mean yours is abt as good as the average office pc you'll find for under 100

it's like buying a project car when you're driving a shitbox

[valid garden]

plus a solid GPU

[mortal plume]

true

[valid garden]

my dad got this 9 years ago

[mortal plume]

actually i've been meaning to ask

has anyone else had temp and driver issues with 7000 series amd gpus

especially ones from xfx

[valid garden]

from what ive heard

AMD GPUs recently have had horrible drivers

[mortal plume]

both me and my friends have had a never ending stream of issues with them

[valid garden]

its like the RX 580 at launch all over again, constant driver issues

[mortal plume]

my rx 7600 when i still had it had to have an insanely aggressive curve on it just so it didn't bluescreen my shi

my friends with their rx 7800 xts both have their side panels off cause of the same reason

for both of us helldivers crashed NONSTOP due to drivers in the first 8-ish months of it's existence

[valid garden]

CyberPowerPC, the builders tampered with the vBIOS, but probably for my own good. Because of the abominal VRM cooling on this GPU, my GPU at 1750MHz vRAM is cooking itself alive, they lowered it to 1500MHz because of this and now I regret making the vBIOS stock

[mortal plume]

driver related crashes are a weekly occurance and everytime they happen they reset your fan curve

i had a fucking txt file with the curves saved on my pc just so i could input it but after the first week i memorized it

[valid garden]

curious, when it crashes does it ever just go to a black screen

and do the fans just go to max speed

[mortal plume]

sometimes it would freeze sometimes black screen

[valid garden]

on the black screen did the fans go to max speed

[mortal plume]

but also you might have a short, if the screen freezes and goes black before shutting off it's likely that

i had that issue in my old pc, shitty nvme shorting my pc (oddly enough it would happen more often in terraria than in other games)

[valid garden]

see cuz for me, whenevr my driver crashes from the VRMs cooking alive, the screen goes black, fans to max speed

I think thats just it cutting power to the die

[mortal plume]

yeah idk abt that your gpu might be cooked lowk

[valid garden]

indeed

thats why im trying to get a 2060 SUPER for my bday so I have a better GPU

[mortal plume]

but yeah no 7000 series amd gpus have been a strict no go for me and i've advised everyone i know to stay away

and if they're hell bent on it they should avoid xfx in specific cause that's the onees the 3 of us had

i had the 2 fan they had the 3 fan

[valid garden]

I guarentee its the same story with the 9000 series GPUs

[mortal plume]

mind you my 2 fan 4070 in the same system has no temp or driver issues it's literally just an amd thing

[valid garden]

the AMD drivers are just fucking broken

im sure on linux it would work fine but gaming on linux is extremely hard

so I never recommend linux to people

just annoying

[mortal plume]

and it's funny because during the time i had it and leading up to the day i bought it people were constantly tryna argue that amd drivers are good now

but like... have you used this thing for longer than the couple hours to a day it takes to review?

it's ASS

[valid garden]

possible solution: older drivers

[mortal plume]

real

[valid garden]

I think AMD archives them