tech-chat-1

[latent gull]

If it’s just looks, you don’t have to spend money, but if you want it to look exactly how you want, there’s probably money involved

[strange atlas]

i've got the car full engine rebuild whole floor and roof gotten and welded to this car and whole car got repainted

thats why i want it to look as good as it can

[glossy veldt]

so do y'all think w10 will run on 1gb?

[untold patio]

How much money for an alright pc

[carmine yew]

Not well

[glossy veldt]

i figured it pretty quickly

[carmine yew]

But if you strip it down, probably will "work"

[carmine yew]

Also w10 1803 or smthn is very different from 24h2

[grizzled frost]

depends

[ocean axle]

somewhere between $0 and $inf

probably

[gritty panther]

$10k

[ocean axle]

in this economy, nah, probably at least $10,001

[gritty panther]

70% of budget just for RAM

[ocean axle]

mhmmm

[mint umbra]

Got secure boot working 🙂

[tired swift]

First time building a PC what do we think chat

[ocean axle]

is that at least two useless fans i see?

[tired swift]

Probably

Wym

[ocean axle]

oh, no, the side/front ones seem to be reverse flow too

just harder to tell

yea, they are

[native path]

I setup a file share website for a couple buddies, considering it's on a 15 year old hard drive i'm pretty satisfied with the local transfer speed across devices

[tired swift]

I have no idea that’s why I chose antec c5 case so I don’t have to deal with fans

[versed ferry]

Oh yeah so I just realized recently I probably put my power supply fan up when I replaced my 1000w with a 1350w. It's been fine for the year or so I've been using it, but next time I open up my PC I should probably flip it. Unfortunately ThermalTake decided they would put the fan at the top instead of the bottom like my EVGA one. There is a shroud over the power supply. Hopefully it doesn't get to hot, I have headroom. That's why I changed out the power supply.

[ocean axle]

thats hitting the network's 1gbit limit

[native path]

It is indeed i'm waiting on my 10g nic to come in

Thought it would be way worse lol

[ocean axle]

1gbps is 119.2MiB/s, getting 111.6MiB/s is pretty good (~6.5% overhead)

[versed ferry]

BLUE

(Like Floatplane)

[mint umbra]

Think ive gotten through all the issues I was having with catchy

since got controller support working and got the secure boot working as well

[bold olive]

what's the difference between b650 and b850 again i forgot 😔

[formal sonnet]

200 exactly.

More seriously, the following reddit threads have good summaries of the B650 vs B850.
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1lmgghy/b650_or_b850_board_is_there_really_that_much_of_a/
https://www.reddit.com/r/PcBuildHelp/comments/1k68c10/what_is_the_difference_between_a_b650_b850_and_a/moo3tjy/

[raven scroll]

Doesn’t look like first timer

Very clean

[bold olive]

200 more fps???

I'm pretty sure its more pcie lanes

[ocean axle]

no, 200 in the model number

nope, same thing

b650, b650e, b850, and x870, are all physically identical chipsets

and x670, x670e, and x870e, are all just two of the former chained together

[bold olive]

ima get gen 5 16x for my gpu so b850

[mint umbra]

I wish my mobo had more usb c slots

[ocean axle]

b650 can (should) also have that

just check the board for the features you want

if thats pcie 5.0 for the main slot, many have that

if not all, i forget if its all or not

[valid garden]

no not really

Windows To Go could not run on USB sticks, it was designed to run on removable media set as fixed

such as USB hard drives and drives connecred with SATA to USB adapters

[rigid fjord]

this made me read it as an aussie accent because of the way you spelt water

[tired swift]

Thanks 😊 I’ve been watching building content for years I suppose I picked up a few things

[valid garden]

due to the nature of USB drives being marked as "Removable", most of the assumptions windows wants are impossible to handle on removable media without a specialized image

lenovo for example has a specialized image made for some of their eMMC based laptops which have their eMMC marked as "Removable" for some reason

[rigid fjord]

technically you could get it to run on a sd card for windows to go

[valid garden]

like I said, you have to make a lot of patches

Windows To Go alone doesnt have them

[bold olive]

is joke

[bold olive]

i need to upgrade my a820 board

[ocean axle]

why?

[valid garden]

I wish I had a Z series chipset so I could use an intel K CPU for OC but alas.

[rigid fjord]

no pbo

[solar moat]

b840?

[rigid fjord]

he has a b840, aka rebadged a620 mobo

[ocean axle]

is no pbo really a problem?

[solar moat]

b840 is worse then a620 since only pcie gen3 link to chipset

[ocean axle]

do those even have a chipset?

[rigid fjord]

technically no, but the dude wants to get more out of the cpu

[ocean axle]

what CPU?

[rigid fjord]

and yes, they have chipsets

[valid garden]

what kind of question is this

[rigid fjord]

i believe he has an r5 7600

[ocean axle]

some mobos dont have a chipset/southbridge

X300 for example, and also EPYC in general

i thought the A series were like that too

[rigid fjord]

tbf, being that they're matx mobo's and as amd ryzens are technically a SOC, you don't need a chipset for them

[ocean axle]

heres an X300 board, which has no PCH,

[valid garden]

well yes because the EPYC series is kinda designed to be an SoC like thing I suppose

[rigid fjord]

nah, they have a chipset, hence a620 and b840

x300 just goes to show how much a ryzen can do on it's own

[ocean axle]

ooo, heres another one, lets play find the PCH

[valid garden]

I feel like AMD would be the only ones to do this but I guess it makes sense for integrated APUs

[ocean axle]

this is an AM5 board

[bold olive]

it's just power limited by too much, it doesn't even run hot

[rigid fjord]

nope, not just apu's

[ocean axle]

supports a 9800x3d if you want to

[rigid fjord]

all i can see is the super I/O

[ocean axle]

yea, there isn't one on it

[valid garden]

from what I find, boards without a "chipset" use the CPUs integrated IO ports

[ocean axle]

a PCH is really just there to provide some extra IO, usually lower speed, that the CPU doesn't provide directly

[bold olive]

why is there 2 eps 8 pin and a 4 pin and have no chipset

oh it's for epyc

makes sense

[rigid fjord]

because amd ryzens are a SOC (system on a chip)

[valid garden]

I wish I had a Z series chipset I find it stupid that certain chipsets can lock overclocking (such as B series boards, atleast around my generation)

[rigid fjord]

quite literally doesn't need a chipset for the cpu to work, it just helps if you want to expand out the connection some more

[ocean axle]

all AM4, AM5, TR4/SP3/TRX40/WRX80, TRX50/WRX90/SP5, and SP6 CPUs are SoCs, so they dont need a chipset

they are quite literally just PCIe devices providing some IO capabilities, and are completely optional

[valid garden]

however Im guessing intel is of course not like that

[ocean axle]

and x670(e) and x870e even chain two together for more IO

[valid garden]

intel chipsets just seem stupid

AMD seems like its more out there

[bold olive]

i saw my friend buy a prebuilt and he got a 5700x in an a520 board (if i recall, it's an a series chipset for sure)

[rigid fjord]

intel has their own approach to it instead

[valid garden]

B series intel locks overclocking
Z series intel unlocks it

[rigid fjord]

he should be ableo to do pbo on that

[valid garden]

I dont know how far this reaches but for the generation my CPU is in this is how it works

[ocean axle]

anyway, back to this, IMO, better to put the money into a faster CPU than a better board if its just for PBO

[rigid fjord]

only cpu OC is locked on B series intel, having said that, you can get H series mobo's that are quite literally a Z series mobo but without the cpu OC, unless you do an IME bypass

[ocean axle]

ie: x3d or 9000 (or both)

[rigid fjord]

technically only 9000x3d can do pbo, 7000x3d can't

[valid garden]

what about RAM OC? as far as I know, outside of timings, on the B250M for example (my chipset) RAM OC is basiclly completely locked

except for XMP of course (though the CPU supports 2400MHz anyways)

[mellow sonnet]

MEGATRANSFERS PER SECOND

[ocean axle]

doesnt really matter, putting the money into a fasterrr CPU is the better idea

[rigid fjord]

from b560 onwards you should be able to do ram OC

[solar moat]

intel saying ram oc is locked means you cant set higher then cpu listed spec that only thing it dose

[valid garden]

well unless math doesnt work out here, the B250M seems older than the B560

maybe im wrong

[rigid fjord]

which was locked on b460 boards, and other 'B' series boards

[ocean axle]

nah, you are mathing right, it is older

[solar moat]

at least on lga 1700 its only the workstaion and h610 that cant

[ocean axle]

200 series is kabylake, 500 is rocketlake

[valid garden]

and obviously, I cant do BLCK (nor would I want too) since thats also locked on the B250M

[ocean axle]

7th vs 11th

[rigid fjord]

it is older but at the same time you had issues with being able to do certain oc's on older B series boards

[rigid fjord]

7th vs 10+11th tbh, you could ram oc with 10th gen if you had a b560

[valid garden]

BLCK got significantly more dangerous starting with the 1st gen intel Core i CPUs, on Core 2 Duos, it depended on your clock generator, in some laptops the FSB clock was decoupled meaning an FSB OC would only touch your CPU and RAM. On others you would also overclock the PCI bus ruining things like Wi-Fi (in laptops) and make your sata freak out

[ocean axle]

technically 200 is 6th/7th, details

[valid garden]

if your system had an unlocked whatever chip and your clock generator seperated PCI from the rest, you could get solid boosts on core 2 duos

[valid garden]

isnt 300 like 8th and 9th

[ocean axle]

yes

370 for 8th, 390 for 9th

cross compat ofc

[valid garden]

im pretty sure intel reused LGA 1151 for that yeah

[ocean axle]

yes

6th/7th is LGA1151 v1, 8th/9th is LGA 1151 v2

[bold olive]

wait what? Seriously?

[ocean axle]

they are mostly electrically compatible, but you need to trick the boards to do it

[valid garden]

I think one of the longest standing sockets was PPGA478, PPGA478 housed Pentium M, Celeron M, some dual core pentiums, and the Core 2 Duo T series of chips, so thats like 2004 to 2009 or so

maybe others stood for longer but on the mobile side

obviously not hot swappable, but electriclly, you could put a T5750 in a system with an M 740, though the BIOS would almost certainly not support it

[valid garden]

I want to do a GPU upgrade but even a 6600 XT is quite expensive

so im probably just gonna have my parents get me an i7 7700 as a CPU upgrade, because an i5 7400 doesnt look too great, no hyperthreading especially

[ocean axle]

be wary of the prices of those CPUs

[valid garden]

I found a 7700 for 70$ is that bad

[ocean axle]

for reasons 7700s (especially 7700Ks) are expensive for reasons

[ocean axle]

yes, thats very bad

[valid garden]

well im not getting a 7700K because my B250M chipset

[ocean axle]

that CPU was $300 new, in early 2017

[valid garden]

what reasons could possible make it so damn expensive

[ocean axle]

its the last quadcore i7, and for a long time held the highest single core perf

[plain cypress]

they should be dirt cheap these days
*although the top chip for old intel sockets always fetches a premium

[ocean axle]

it doesn't anymore, but it did for a while, because intel was releaseing skylake+++++++++++++

[ocean axle]

also this, combine the two, and 7700(k)s go for entirely too much

[plain cypress]

I can find 6700k/z170 combos for $100 all day around here

[rigid fjord]

yeah, providing the bios is up to date, it should be possible on that chipset

[valid garden]

my BIOS oddly runs this i5 7400 at 95W PL1 and 115W PL2 instead of the stock 65W PL1 which is interesting

[plain cypress]

i have a fake 7700 (xeon i forget the full number) and lga1151 board sitting in a box for the last 4 years

[ocean axle]

1275v6

[plain cypress]

can a 7400 even draw 95W

[plain cypress]

that doesn't sound right at all

[valid garden]

if I forced it too it could

but it would probably get hot as fuck

[plain cypress]

BCLK unlocked?

[valid garden]

?

are you asking me

[ocean axle]

the Xeon version of a 7700 ie an E3-1270 V6 (with the last number mostly iGPU differences afaik)

[rigid fjord]

that moment when you want to get an epyc cpu and an am5 mobo just to mess with people

[valid garden]

why does intel do that

[ocean axle]

oh, might be the 1280 actually

[valid garden]

like I find it odd that intel just made xeon CPUs for consumer sockets like LGA 1151

[plain cypress]

I think we have the poor mans version

[ocean axle]

they still do?

[plain cypress]

1240V6?

[valid garden]

really now

[ocean axle]

also, AMD makes EPYC CPUs for AM5

[bold olive]

will epyc CPUs even work on consumer motherboards?

[valid garden]

it feels wrong but I guess it makes sense

[plain cypress]

oh shiz

its skylake

[rigid fjord]

there's a specific set of epyc cpu's for that

[plain cypress]

1240V5, Asus E3 Pro Gaming V5

[ocean axle]

LGA 1700 https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/236193/intel-xeon-e2414-processor-12m-cache-2-60-ghz/specifications.html

[valid garden]

what could CPUs like the Xeon E3-1200 v5 have been used for? 4 cores 4 threads? a home server or something?

[ocean axle]

thats a skylake i5

[rigid fjord]

they still make them for lga1200 and lga1700 tbf

[plain cypress]

downclocked i7

[ocean axle]

yea, i see its still 8 threads

[plain cypress]

hyper threading enabled

[valid garden]

hm or maybe I should find one more stick of DDR4-2400 to have 32GB of DDR4

[ocean axle]

1225 is teh i5

[plain cypress]

i also have an 8400 sitting around

but im giving away my working board for some reason

[rigid fjord]

https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/epyc-4585px.c4172 for example @bold olive

[valid garden]

tbh the main reason I want to get a new GPU like a 6600 XT as budget card is because my GPU is currently very prone to overheating

[rigid fjord]

realistically this is just a 7950x with a higher power draw

[valid garden]

I dont even realisticlly need a new card I just need the cooling to be better

however MSI sabatoged the cooling for my GPU

their cooler is known to be quite bad iirc

[plain cypress]

holy fuck balls

why are 8th gen boards selling for a hundred bucks

[valid garden]

are we deadass

[hexed tapir]

Better a better case and fan tune

[valid garden]

what

[plain cypress]

is it just cause itx is a premium

[rigid fjord]

stop using nzxt cases

[valid garden]

how long have they been making cases

obviously I dont have one

(this is a 2017 prebuilt)

[rigid fjord]

long enough that they have one that's nicknamed an easybake oven

[valid garden]

solution to GPU cooling issues

just 100% all the time

[rigid fjord]

see, i see your cooling and raise you this on an rx590

[valid garden]

I think LACT programmers need to fix their graph handling here. I shouldnt be able to do this

[solar moat]

and i was thinking my graphs where shit

[bold olive]

how tf do you unlock 0% spin

my minimum is 30%

[bright oyster]

No it's fine the fan splits into 3 fans at 54C

55*

[frigid blade]

Why’s it doing a loop de loop

[valid garden]

LACT devs didnt fix it

[fleet kite]

i uninstalled the update but it auto downloaded what can i do to stop from updating now

[bold olive]

oh shit

@tidal geyser not again

[spark path]

should I be concerned?

[gleaming rose]

LMAO

[solar moat]

about what?

[spark path]

virtual memory and pysical memory load

[solar moat]

welp mabye close thing you not needing

[solar moat]

what using most of your ram

[spark path]

minecraft

[solar moat]

how much is minecraft using

[solar moat]

close thing

[spark path]

aight

[solar moat]

me with web broser/discord/spotify+game using 4GB i am at 13GB

[spark path]

didn't help

my system is fine tho.... mostly ig....

[solar moat]

welp if you run out of ram it can make perfomince tank

[spark path]

except that when I run an app in fullscreen it lags

[solar moat]

since page file is easy 100x slower

[spark path]

minecraft for example, my game becomes so laggy in full screen

[bleak rock]

chat can anyone help me out picking between 2 laptops?

[spark path]

but windowed and expanded is fine

[south saddle]

hey guys need some help, im using a lenovo ideapad 3 from 2020 and recently ive tried updating the drivers and after a bit of tweaking and new driver updates i came to a final result of a 2025 i5 igpu driver and a 2021 dedicated mx130 gpu because thats the most stable combo i have for my laptop (ive tried both modern driver versions but they made my system run clunky). anyways my problem is that when i try to run games (roblox mainly) the first launch after a boot the gpu works fine and initializes my game, but the second launch causes the gpu to get stuck up in a state where it is used but it doesnt render my game and i can only hear the sounds of the game while not being able to see anything in the game. i need help brah....

i also have that little icon in my hidden icons area that indicates if my gpu is active or not and on the second launch it doesnt go active and just stays inactive

[tired swift]

Are you using Lenovo vantage

[south saddle]

yup and i downloaded a bios/firmware update on it recently and it caused a shutdown + restart loop problem but i got it fixed, its just that this is happening now

[tired swift]

The GPUs are probably conflicting

Open settings and go to display, graphics add Roblox and set it to use the GPU you want

[south saddle]

already have

ive tried every surface level thing to fix

i thought i was just using my dedicated gpu too much so ive set the igpu as my total main gpu and my dedicated to strictly games

but apparently its something about my optimus not doing its job right and not waking my gpu

and idk anything about optimus

[tired swift]

Idk man

[south saddle]

😭

[tired swift]

Have you tried ChatGPT he usually fixes all my problems

[south saddle]

im lowk okay with the roblox not launching but the thing that pisses me off is that i literally cant shutdown or restart my laptop is that event happens because ny windows has to wait for a process to close in order to shut down or restart leading to it looping endlessly until i force it to shutdown

[south saddle]

even chatgpt is confused too

me and gpt keep going back and forth on what could be the cause

[tired swift]

Have you tried turning off and back on again

[south saddle]

wdym?

[tired swift]

That was a joke

[south saddle]

oh

wallahi im cooked

[tired swift]

Solution! M

I Know!

[south saddle]

i genuinely dont wanna pay for an IT to look into it.,.,....

[south saddle]

WHAT THE ANSWER!!!

[tired swift]

Buy a laptop with one GPU

[south saddle]

but.. but i wanna game on the laptop too...

im a broke asian boy living in a house that genuienly doesnt have room for a pc

[tired swift]

Can you disable the iGPU completely ?

Use the other one natively ?

[south saddle]

and plus im doing CS so i need the extra power

[south saddle]

i could

but my lenovo laptop has like

smth smth about an admin

and i need to consult them or whatever

basically contact lenovo support to do that

[tired swift]

Maybe js try do that

[south saddle]

heres the thing... i cant

[tired swift]

Why

[south saddle]

literally their customer support doesnt reach my country

which is weird because lenovo has official stores in my country

[tired swift]

Use a vpn

[south saddle]

i dont itll work anyway because i think they want me to ship my laptop to their building to tweak it and ship it back to me

[tidal geyser]

the Dgpu goes trough the igpu

[tired swift]

Ah

[south saddle]

isnt there like a basic display feature that windows has thatll act like an igpu while the real one is disabled?

[tidal geyser]

no?

its like asking if water will still flow from the faucet after you turned it off

[south saddle]

ohh

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/wheres-my-water-swampy-wheres-my-water-swampy-gif-26847970

[tidal geyser]

also that laptop is at least 9 years old

[south saddle]

its 2020

[tidal geyser]

mx130 is a 9 year old dgpu

a pretty horrible one too

[south saddle]

its an office laptop anyways

one that tries to bridge between office and gaming

and failed horribly

[tidal geyser]

xd i was gonna say there are reasons to do so for work but its a ideapad its a gaming ish kinda laptop

lenovos T or X line is work laptops

[south saddle]

im saving up for an loq so

[tired swift]

I have a p14s

[tidal geyser]

yea P too

[south saddle]

my sister has an e series

and actually that video from techsperts

she has that issue too with her e series

[tidal geyser]

i got myself a slim 7 with a r7 350 for 300$ and in terms of gaming performance its like a ps4 i think but at like 50w power usage

[tired swift]

Idk

[tidal geyser]

i would not wish a E series on anyone

[south saddle]

my mom bought it for her lmfao

her laptop is more expensive than mine but mine actually functions better than hers

[sinful cobalt]

higher price doesnt always mean better

[tired swift]

Price = good

[tired swift]

This is meant to be not equal sign

[south saddle]

tried explaining that to my mom when she was out buying for my sisters laptop 😭

[tidal geyser]

i sold some zen 2 laptop to my classmate a few days ago due to his tearing apart but it cost 2x the price for that thing over what i listed mine for

i need to take a few pics to compare

look at this beuty

[south saddle]

should i lowk get an IT to look into my laptop :p in 16 i should be worrying about python not my gpu choking

[tidal geyser]

from i5 1335u+mx550 to r7 3700u

[south saddle]

my laptop is physically crap because its missing a w key and a screw post is broken but everything software and partially hardware work just as fine

also i just realized my chrome opens faster than my sisters chrome

i still love intel when i want a ryzen

[tired swift]

Is that monitor for a docking station or do u have a pc also

[tidal geyser]

i got it for 100$

Bad fan, me replace, now me need to sell.

or use

[south saddle]

goddamn i cant even install new geforce experience app on this shitty laptop ✌️

[solar moat]

RIP 2ccx

[tidal geyser]

still a lot more efficent than the 1335u

well the 1335u in that laptop

[tidal geyser]

its nvidia app

experience is dead and buried

[solar moat]

i doute that

[south saddle]

raah whatever still i cant download it

[tidal geyser]

i owned that laptop for 3 years it sucks

well owned the same version

[solar moat]

maybe Renoir way less power then Matisse

[tidal geyser]

but the main reason he wanted a new one was due to his old one falling apart

literally

the middle of his keyboard and screen back cover is CRACKED

if he manages to do the same on the new laptop then HOLY SHIT

[dawn saffron]

goated internet

[tidal geyser]

someone is downloading MASSIVE amounts of things

[mint rock]

how does one achieve such speeds

[dawn saffron]

im the only one using it

[dawn saffron]

ikr

[tidal geyser]

replug all cables

[mint rock]

it's too fast

[tidal geyser]

so fast it loops back around

[dawn saffron]

i tried replugging

[tidal geyser]

ALL cables

[mint rock]

even my toaster cable?

[tidal geyser]

if he was using 2.4ghz could worth it to redo the microwave cable

and make sure its grounded

[dawn saffron]

what does grounded meaN

[tidal geyser]

it touches the ground

[dawn saffron]

my wifi is on a cupboard lol

[bold olive]

so goated

[mint rock]

some might even say beyond goated

[dawn saffron]

well a laptop restart solved alot

i have not shut down my laptop in like a week

[jaunty moat]

So if windows won't let me wipe it through the reset in settings I created a recovery area or wtv that still didn't work and when I tried to boot a fresh install from a USB it just didn't load?? WTH am I supposed to even fuckin do atp

I get into the Asus menu select the USB it gets past the logo then a grey screen

[bold olive]

how did you mount your usb as a boot drive

[jaunty moat]

I just used the windows creation media then restarted my pc got into the Asus bios then selected the usb

[jaunty moat]

The normal way I guess

[tidal geyser]

:3

[pale flint]

wow

[cold skiff]

Must run on Duracell

[steady vessel]

:0

[versed ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/doctorevil-no-gif-22331678

[gaunt spade]

what in the

is whisper mode like 5 watts

[tidal geyser]

Actually yeah

[gaunt spade]

like exactly 5?

[tidal geyser]

Damit

[gaunt spade]

and is that model with a dedicated gpu

[gaunt spade]

broken cpu

core 6 go poof

[tidal geyser]

its panther lake

[gaunt spade]

yea ik but dosent the duo have upto a 5090

[pale flint]

whaf

[tidal geyser]

i think so but not sure

the one sent to reviewers is the b390 one

[gaunt spade]

yea i just checked it has a upto a 5090

with the panther lake cpus

[tidal geyser]

the wuzzy panther lakes tho

[gaunt spade]

wuzzy?

[tidal geyser]

only 4xe igpu

[gaunt spade]

idk the specifics but the 5090 version has x9 388h

why tf is it called x9

oh its an ultra

[tidal geyser]

wtf so it does have the b390 but also a DGPU tf is the point

X=b390

[gaunt spade]

every x has b390?

it only has 4 p cores

thats wild

[tidal geyser]

tbh now a days it does not matter

and most games still care most about 1 great core

tho they can now use some more cores

[gaunt spade]

more wouldve been better

i guess thats why its so efficient

do any of the panther lakes have more then 4 pcores

[tidal geyser]

no

keep in mind E cores share l3 cache so can mostly work together

[gaunt spade]

what do e cores and lp e cores do

i just know there good for productivity

[tidal geyser]

well they are just cores same as any cores just more efficent and lpe is ofc even more efficent

games can use e cores same as P cores but its best to keep shader compile or something to the E cores while the P can do some fun stuff

[versed ferry]

I had that happen, I still have it saved in notepad My issue was caused by me replacing my ram and running too fast ram for my motherboard.

[gaunt spade]

how does a 8p core compare to 6p core and 4 e core or something similar
or a 16 core with a 8p core and like 16 e core

[tidal geyser]

au anu tis a x570

3200MT ram on a 3700X should be fine

[tidal geyser]

its not about the size of the P core but how you use it

[gaunt spade]

for gaming

[tidal geyser]

more up to the game

some games use every P core very well others only really use 1 and most i think are 4 cores get the most load and then some random stuff goes on the rest of the cores

multi core programming is HARD

[mint umbra]

Well fixxee most of my issues I was having with Linux

What program should I use for like under volting GPU and shit

[tidal geyser]

lact

[opaque silo]

still waiting for ram and ssd prices to drop..

[steady vessel]

I fear it may be a while :P

[tidal geyser]

2 or 3 years

[opaque silo]

well that’s waitable

my true fear is that price being the new normal

[tidal geyser]

well the US dollar is probs gonna collapse

[steady vessel]

That's a possiblity but looking at things it is more likely that RAM takes a complete shift away from DDR and more into some newer technology that is hopefully cheaper

[tidal geyser]

there aint anything but DDR

[opaque silo]

ddr ram about to become outdated, as will regular ssds

there aint no way

[tidal geyser]

i would imagine QLC NAND for ram would probs only last like half a year of regular use

[steady vessel]

That's what I meant, wrong terms used.

[opaque silo]

agreed, using SSD tech for ram will suck

• the prices are still there so not worth

[steady vessel]

Wait proabably not.

[tidal geyser]

intels 3d xpoint is NAND and was used on ram sticks

[somber hazel]

Bae love you

[opaque silo]

how long did they last

[steady vessel]

wha?

[tidal geyser]

3d xpoint is insane for longevity so most should still be fine

[opaque silo]

wb ssd tho

that’s the upgrade i need

[steady vessel]

I can't find it right now, regardless deeply unimportant

[tidal geyser]

they used it on optane drives and yea they are pretty good but now current gen 5 SSDs are beating em at everything now

[opaque silo]

gen 5 more durable?

that’s news to me

atp might start looking for hard drives

[tidal geyser]

think 3d xpoint is still taking the lead there but modern TLC NAND aint bad at all

[tidal geyser]

they also went up in price by a decent chunk

[warm anvil]

Ello

[tired swift]

Chat rate the new build

[solar moat]

https://tenor.com/bDzXqJpUSPE.gif

[tired swift]

Idek what to take from this 😭

[solar moat]

ITS A COMPUTER

[tired swift]

I hope so

Otherwise I have no frickin idea on what I just made

[bold olive]

one wrong tick and it's pain

[steady vessel]

hehe :3 pretty, what are the specs like?

[tired swift]

Not great

2080ti, i910900kf 32gb 3200mt ddr4

[steady vessel]

That's fine! If it computers it computers. You don't need anything fancy to get the job done

[steady vessel]

That's really respectable

[tired swift]

In 2019

[steady vessel]

how much did it put you under?

[steady vessel]

It's not like you are going to be gaming in 4k at 120 FPS but that's not the ask. It will play most titles at medium 1080p and still good enough for 3d modelling and stuff

[tired swift]

Stole most of the components as spare parts that I got without paying, +350USD

[steady vessel]

350 for the whole system?

That's really great deal good for you!

[tired swift]

Innit

I only had to buy case, PSU and cooler

[bold olive]

computer fancy

[tired swift]

Everything else I pulled together f

Noctua coolers are sexy

[steady vessel]

agreed lol

That's a really good system!

What are you planning to play? or do?

[tired swift]

Honestly

I built it cuz I was bored I don’t even game rly

I’ll use it for uni lol

CAD

[tidal geyser]

i just listed out the parts from my desktop as i went laptop

[snow kettle]

@tired swift you unbuild the pc and rebuild it again in a infinite loop so you can never be bored ever again

[tired swift]

Lowk not even a bad call 😂

[steady vessel]

hehe I see

[tired swift]

I did zero cable management the back of this PC is a warezone

Every cable for themselves !

[thorny saddle]

Nice though most poeple do an AIO in that case

[tired swift]

I love the simplicity of air coolers + it’s sexy (imo)

And it’s extremely quiet

[gritty panther]

where's the build

[valid fiber]

as it should be

[gritty panther]

I immediately noticed the expensive noctua cooler

[tired swift]

How sexy is it 😍

[gritty panther]

I havent used an aircooler since the late 2000's lol

since the Corsair H50 came out I've been using AIO's for years.

[versed ferry]

OC looks stable (probably)

[exotic cape]

now i want to do a stress test to see how fucked up my pc is

[cold skiff]

What cpu? That’s bouncing all over the shop

[lapis furnace]

Aye chat, share yo wisdom

Dell G15, i7 13th hx, 4060, 16gb ddr5, 1tb gen 4 pcie

Was purchased in march 2025, with 3yr warranty

Value - $950

What ya think, buy? Asking for a friend from India.

[cold skiff]

No idea what INR is or the conversion to usd/eu or gbp .

[lapis furnace]

Inr is Indian rupees

[cold skiff]

How much is that in freedom dollars

[lapis furnace]

$950 approx

[cold skiff]

That’s rough. Although I know India is more expensive

That’s almost new price

[versed ferry]

I like doing benchmarks and stress tests, I only hate having to wait

[exotic cape]

not too bad prices tho.

[lapis furnace]

🤔

So buy or pass? Asking for a friend

[exotic cape]

found a new 4060 for sale at 500$

used at 300

the ram is 200

[exotic cape]

yea, imma run a quick 5 min or so

[azure topaz]

gpu oc is weird and even if it doesnt crash in 3dmark it doesnt mean its stable

[versed ferry]

Yeah I know. I have a stock profile saved so if I have any issues in games I'm going to just switch profiles.

I should run some game benchmarks though

now that you mention it

[tidal geyser]

Floppa me cpu doing this

[exotic cape]

Is that your actual pc? Or one of the million other things you have?

[tidal geyser]

2nd one

[tidal geyser]

this is what im using RN got it for 3000nok

[exotic cape]

Idk what that is

[tidal geyser]

more modern cpu than my desktop

[exotic cape]

Ahh

[tidal geyser]

i really want to go panther lake (intels latest mobile chips) but the prices i have heard for em here in Norway could be up to 30 000nok

[ivory mountain]

LMAO holy scam what the fuck is this 🤣https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dOmhhfoUUc

[azure topaz]

what is

[ivory mountain]

stable enough

[tidal geyser]

core 6 is not happy

same result just testing cpu but more errors

would be nice to have a not feked 3700x

[exotic cape]

[azure topaz]

at stock? L

[tidal geyser]

pretty sure it was undervolted when i got it but unstable, reset bios and updated from 2019 to 2026 but still not a happy cpu

[exotic cape]

looks alright i guess

[azure topaz]

what scalar does to a man

[exotic cape]

afaik, i have a non fucked 3700x laying around

[tidal geyser]

boring

[jaunty moat]

Is there any way to delete windows recovery partitions so I can just have one I made

Whenever I try to make my own because the recovery environment apparently just doesn't exist anymore

[exotic cape]

i can fuck it for you, if that makes it more exciting

[tidal geyser]

disk genius

why not

[exotic cape]

snap a pin?

[jaunty moat]

And when I do make my own and change the id the environment file is still sitting on the old recovery partition

[tidal geyser]

yes pleas

[lapis furnace]

[mellow sonnet]

there is a way to completely wipe a drive from leftover system partitions using a command in command prompt

i have done that and it works without questions

ask the internet or ai

copilot seems to give the most straightforward answer

[clear sorrel]

well I would double check what the AI saying is correct..

especially when deleting system partitions

[mellow sonnet]

it just gives simple commands that already exist on the internet

according to what i asked it, it says to open diskpart via command prompt

widely available infomation

open command prompt with admin, write diskpart, write list disk, locate the disk you want to wipe and write select disk X where x is a number of said disk, and write clean

[topaz copper]

Least favorite time

Bios updates

[mellow sonnet]

this way you wipe a drive off any leftover partition

ive done that so it is reliable

[clear sorrel]

🙏

[tidal geyser]

you have a qflash button nothing to worry about

[cold skiff]

wtf happened to that monitor

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-gif-24903806

hit em with the

[topaz copper]

It partially failed. I had to kill the power and restart the process because it wouldn’t go between sections.

[topaz copper]

Cat

OlED smudge and scratch easy

[cold skiff]

I guess your cat lost one of her 9 lives that day. Hope it wasn’t the last life

[topaz copper]

Meh it’s only in high glare
It’s not a big deal

Can’t sweat that stuff

I do need to clean the screen though

I’ll get through three or four years with the screen ideally and then I’ll give it to my nephew

[exotic cape]

crazy to see the performance difference in 10 years

[cold skiff]

You should see the performance difference between today and my little 486 66 I had in the 90s then

[hard oxide]

Hello, could someone help me out with installing Kubuntu? I'd love to follow guidelines, but the official website ones are dead

[cold skiff]

It was exciting when we broke the 100mhz barrier on CPUs btw

[cold skiff]

#linux and #1027757333117415424

[cold skiff]

This is beautiful

[tidal geyser]

aint it just putting the ISO on a ventoy usb stick booting into it and using the installer

[cold skiff]

It’s so good I don’t know where to start Rico. So I won’t

[hard oxide]

It's giving me some odd errors, idk why, chat gpt cant help and im lost as to what I could be doing wrong, not really a tech guy

[tidal geyser]

its ai generated or his camera is having a stroke

[cold skiff]

ChatGPT

[tidal geyser]

is secureboot off?

also uh maybe give us the error

[hard oxide]

Should we move to Linux chat then?

[topaz copper]

Why kubuntu

[tidal geyser]

kde ubuntu is nice

[tidal geyser]

yea why not

[cold skiff]

Why linux

[tidal geyser]

or eh just take it here

[topaz copper]

Linux is freedom

[tidal geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1467777966846115912/1467778027789357078/WTH.gif

[cold skiff]

Sim my pc hasn’t done that in a week since I told you my boy gets it

[hard oxide]

I really want to use something that is the most like windows but isnt slowing my pc down so badly, after swapping to w11 my fps kinda went south, started lagging in old games

[tidal geyser]

damit i really would like the video

[cold skiff]

Lagging in old games? What’s your specs?

[topaz copper]

Cachy OS with Plasma

[cold skiff]

Tbh I’ve tried to recreate it as he had some time off of it and has been playing on his tablet

[tidal geyser]

cachyos never heard of that

[cold skiff]

I couldn’t get it to be done

[topaz copper]

Or Pika Os with Plasma

There’s lots of distros to offer KDE some of them are more optimized that the box for gaming which if you’re moving from windows might be a priority to you

[cold skiff]

What specs you installing on for windows to be slowing you down in games

Like it’s gotta be 8 year or older hardware surely

[tidal geyser]

im not gonna stop bragging about this

[topaz copper]

I think you’ll find that more people have eight-year-old hardware then have new hardware

[cold skiff]

You still haven’t said your specs

[topaz copper]

Especially the people that said I’m waiting for a sale to the point where they wait for ram to skyrocket

[cold skiff]

And 8 year old is like Ryzen 2xxx so probably not

[topaz copper]

A lot of people are on first generation ryzen

My nephew is on 8700k

But windows is comforting to him even though it’s slow

And I don’t wanna be his tech support

[cold skiff]

8700k is much better than first gen ryzen for windows 11

For a start, one is supported and one isn’t

[topaz copper]

That being said, I think everyone should try Linux

[cold skiff]

If your installing Linux, you’re gonna be his tech support

[topaz copper]

I’m not installing lljnux not for him. He can do that on his own adventure.

[tidal geyser]

somehow Damocles managed to install linux

[cold skiff]

If you don’t need kernel level anticheat, linux works. You just gotta be prepared for the additional headaches Linux brings

[topaz copper]

What headaches are these?

[cold skiff]

Took him weeks and he probably used more hours on chatgpt than he did sleeping

[tidal geyser]

yea kinda

[topaz copper]

Chat GPt was first issue

I find for Lennox help Claude is better

[cold skiff]

IIRC people recommend bazzite for gamers due to the way it’s setup and what you need for gaming

[topaz copper]

But it’s fedora

[thorny saddle]

It's just not an airflow oriented case

[cold skiff]

Optionally you can wait for desktop steamOS. That should make the linux experience simpler for gaming

Compiling your own app and dependencies etc that comes with linux is what has put me off since I was a teenager.

And then waiting for support for anything new is a pain.

[topaz copper]

I never understood this mindset of like what is steam oS going to bring that we don’t currently have

Other than being built on arch, it’s still going to be atomic and it’s not gonna have any more features than we have today

[cold skiff]

For someone like me who doesn’t want to learn linux. It will set me up way and above and beyond for playing games that going out and installing say - fedora would.

[topaz copper]

I think if you’re unwilling to learn it, you should just stay on windows

[cold skiff]

Exactly why I do

[topaz copper]

Like for example, Linus will never move to Lennox full-time because he deleted his whole UI trying to install steam because he can’t read a manual

[cold skiff]

However if there’s a benefit and someone else is going to put in those 100s of hours to making an OS work better on linux, so I don’t have to learn it. It makes it accessible.

[sinful cobalt]

Good thing my entire family is on the latter

[cold skiff]

I’d also argue your OS shouldn’t be work…

[hard oxide]

It's a laptop 3060 with ryzen 5 and 16 ram, was fine with windows 10, then I got 11 and it was never the same

[topaz copper]

The definition of work is interesting because Windows has familiarity it’s not less worth you’re just accustomed to it

I don’t really care what people use. I just think whatever you want to use should function like I think all games should work even if I don’t play them and then you can decide from there or what you use. You shouldn’t have a gun to your head telling you, you must use this to install X.

But if that comes after the expense of having you install kernel level malware, I guess that’s a choice I’ve made

[cold skiff]

Isn’t that how an OS works though? If you don’t have dependencies you can’t use certain programs

[hard oxide]

Also, I sent what errors I get at #linux when I ignore it and move on with the installation it gives another error and then just kinda crashes

[topaz copper]

Sure I just don’t think I should have to install now where to use someone else software

When other products don’t require me to do that

[cold skiff]

Right

[topaz copper]

It’s the main reason I never bought Battlefield six

I don’t agree with kernel levdl

[cold skiff]

It’s something we refused a long time ago, if you’re a certain age you will remember

Now though, people act like it’s the best thing since sliced bread.

However blame that cronus device

If that didn’t exist, you wouldn’t have kernel level anticheat enforced. Then you got DMA ontop

[topaz copper]

Like I’m past the age where Fortnite ever appeal to me and I remember when my computer was mine something this younger generation doesn’t seem to understand why we care and we’re just called boomers technologically anyway

[cold skiff]

DMA is a unique situation

Within 5-10 years streamers popularities will dwindle when kernel level anticheat gets good enough to catch all those gadgets and hacks they use to look cool

Only the actual good people will remain… and 95% of them are not entertaining

[frail sequoia]

how do i fox the error?

[ionic atlas]

some people here have way too clean desks lol

[ionic atlas]

back on XP we didn't play call of duty. You gotta pick from something like FarCry, Crysis, CS, Unreal, Sin etc. 😄

Day of Defeat

[warm anvil]

lkdjw;lasfh

[ionic atlas]

those SiS integrated graphics was never well supported. Check u have
"SiS Graphics Driver 3.83 / 3.89 for Windows XP"
or apparently, set
+set r_rendererPreference 1

like youre shortcut, right click properties, in the target, you add +set r_rendererPreference 1 end of the line after the quotation mark.

[rigid fjord]

not as exciting as a 286 +287 or 386 with the 387 math co processor and using a 'turbo' button on the pc case

[rigid fjord]

paintball also, then there's the classic pinball that can do 1000+fps

[cold skiff]

I used but never owned one of these

[rigid fjord]

many might have had it with out the 287/387 maths co-processor

technically it's an optional extra chip you can add to the board

[mint umbra]

I really hope steam controller doesnt get delayed too

[eternal cloak]

The first CoD was released in 2003 lol

[eternal cloak]

Ye shit sorry, I should leave all my leftover food all over it

[ionic atlas]

nah, just too little hardware all over the place haha

like, do u even do real work in tech if it doesn't look like this haha.

[frail sequoia]

thats..... not a desk

its boxes

[tidal geyser]

or have a workbench but uh sometimes my desk becomes worse than my workbench

[ionic atlas]

my place; you wanna see my second desk too? xD

full of stuff

[tidal geyser]

mine is clean now as well its what i have been doing all day

but my walk in to my house is uh do not look at it pleas

[next adder]

uhm

i don't want to brick my motherboard tho...

[ionic atlas]

alternative is that your cpu will die.

[sinful cobalt]

mfs fr being scared of a bios update

[tidal geyser]

its REALLY REALLY hard to do so

[next adder]

Only because the power where i live is really unstable

[tidal geyser]

most bios updates now a days can survive a power outage

[sinful cobalt]

get a UPS

[next adder]

how do i update tho

[next adder]

i have no money bro. it took me ages to get a pc

[frail sequoia]

Not my b450m ds3h v2 iirc

[sinful cobalt]

@tidal geyser if theres a physical bios flashback button they still can recover from a power outed bios upd?

[ionic atlas]

steal a car battery /s

[next adder]

why would i want to go to jail

[tidal geyser]

OMG

[tidal geyser]

yes ofc there is

[sinful cobalt]

eggxactly

[tidal geyser]

aka no risky at all

[exotic cape]

Don't a lot of mother boards come with a backup bios on them?

[tidal geyser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEoArXgXz6k

[tidal geyser]

no

[exotic cape]

Hmmm

[jovial swan]

Should i grab?
DELL XPS 13 9370 I7/16GB/512 - 4k
Its up for 1199 dkk / 175 USD, but it is a 8th gen I7

[tidal geyser]

backup bios is really rare but qflash is common on new stuff

[exotic cape]

Thought the technology had progressed further than that.

[tidal geyser]

cant do BF6

but it should still be fine for most other non gaming stuff

[exotic cape]

It can't be that expensive to have a backup bios to roll back to incase first bios fucks up.

[jovial swan]

Yeah no shit its got UHD 620 lmao. But it seems good for just watching netflix and stuff. With it being a 4K display

[tidal geyser]

its not spensive

[tidal geyser]

netflix cant do 4k on computer

[jovial swan]

Wait what

[tidal geyser]

well iv never gotten it to work and seems like it cant work

[azure topaz]

id honstly say its less common now than it was in like 1st or 2nd gen

[jovial swan]

Damn, that kinda sucks

[jovial swan]

Maybe wrong subscription?,

[exotic cape]

A small 500mb cache or something on the mobo to contain a safe untouchable bios

[tidal geyser]

tis why i sail the 7 seas

[tidal geyser]

nope we got the best

[tidal geyser]

500 WHAT DE FUC

[azure topaz]

the vbios for my HD 7950 is 128KB

[tidal geyser]

the bios is 32

[exotic cape]

Fine 50mb

[azure topaz]

and half of that is useless

[tidal geyser]

i like how older am4 boards only had a like 16MB bios chip so had to cut out a lot of older cpus when you updated the bios

[azure topaz]

but yeah boards are generally 32

[exotic cape]

Idk what storage sizes are the cheapest. Since I know that it takes up very little space. But a custom sized storage module is going to cost more than a standard sized one.

[tidal geyser]

iv seen some older laptops being 8

[next adder]

which one do i get?

[azure topaz]

latest

[tidal geyser]

latest

[next adder]

dec 1 ?

[tidal geyser]

unrespectfully, look at a calendar

[azure topaz]

respectfully, is that the latest date there?

[next adder]

ye

[next adder]

yes?

[exotic cape]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-emoji-emoji-meme-emoji-memes-spin-gif-3355519892839036421

[azure topaz]

i think ill make the 5700G a linux computer with the A750

[tidal geyser]

ok linus torvalds

[azure topaz]

idk what else to do with it but blow it up

[tidal geyser]

right now im on a selling spree

[azure topaz]

opposite for me im trying to grow my collection

[tidal geyser]

xd

i do not have much space and kinda wanna claim it back

but right now my biggest issue is if i wanna keep my 27" OLED or 35" utrawide one will be sold the other used as main

[azure topaz]

oled ez

[tidal geyser]

it looks amazing yes but i have noticed i prefer having the lights on when on my desktop while on a laptop i can lay in bed and enjoy some movie under the warmth of my blanket

and ofc lights off

colors look amazing on the OLED same with pixel response times as the ultra wide has uh some ghosting.

[azure topaz]

some

[median heart]

I hate living in the middle of nowhere so much mann

It takes an hour to download 3gb

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/starlink-lights-satellite-spacex-gif-17361182

[azure topaz]

i will send you the files via carrier pidgeon

[tidal geyser]

få deg starlink

[median heart]

too expensive

i asked my parents for it but its like 300 for isntallation and then like 100 a month of somth

[tidal geyser]

40$ a month

well up to things

[median heart]

oh right

still my parents say its too expensive

but living on 15mbps everyday is genuinely hell

[azure topaz]

i need a new spot for my test bed

i like the idea of using it thru obs only but idk where to put it

[frail sequoia]

My tv has light leakage or whatever it’s called, also @warm anvil you might like this song I had on (found it in an ianrocks shuffle TikTok)

[tidal geyser]

light bleed

[warm anvil]

oh yeah i already know ian

[frail sequoia]

Yeah that

[tidal geyser]

think you get the needed things

and worst case its 400$ for the starlink set

and anybody with 2 hands can set it up

[median heart]

My parents said its too expensive bro

So starlink aint an option

[tidal geyser]

get rekt

[brave brook]

here they even give you the HW for free if you subscribe for 2 years

(Residential is same but 50 euros a month)

[tidal geyser]

yea pretty sure that is what i was showing

just in Norwegian so i could not really understand it

[buoyant bridge]

7 pro vs 7 pro

[next adder]

now that i updated bios i had to do so much shit to be able to log in back to my pc

[tidal geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/859423676457287730/1286737790322868365/2x-1.gif

i just wanna buy a actual truckload of broken electronics and just sit and repair it all day

[frail sequoia]

my model wont render 😭

[buoyant bridge]

do you have access to a vehicle to move them with

You can buy a Gaylord of recycled electronics at a lot of dumps for like $70

[azure topaz]

let me get a gaylord of fries

[buoyant bridge]

FR

For the unaware this is called a Gaylord btw

[azure topaz]

super computer

[tidal geyser]

not where i live sadly

[buoyant bridge]

rip

[tidal geyser]

i have already been in contact with electronic recycling companies

[azure topaz]

the superflower unit really looks like a bomb 😭 💀

[tidal geyser]

super computing tower

[azure topaz]

im NOT stacking all my desktops

[tidal geyser]

i stacked my desktops once, never again

[frail sequoia]

fixed it

[tidal geyser]

mostly since im going all in with laptops

[azure topaz]

sim you buy laptops is there a way to g et around a t17 gen 2 or something's supervisor pw nowadays

i looked like 4-6 months ago but not recently

[frail sequoia]

i wanna buy a dell precision m4300

[azure topaz]

got one lying around max spec but super visor password

[frail sequoia]

core2duo and nvidia quadro fx m360 (or 360m i forgot what way around)

[tidal geyser]

new bios should fix it but not sure how to get one as the place i get mine do not allow you to ask for bioses on locked bios devices

[frail sequoia]

isnt there ways to remove it?

[tidal geyser]

aka this

[azure topaz]

its way new, nah

like modern modern its i think only 1 gen old atp

[frail sequoia]

cmos remove and then turn on?

[azure topaz]

no

trust me i tried the basics i wouldnt ask if i didnt look around a lot

[buoyant bridge]

How many flops

[azure topaz]

just me

[tidal geyser]

ask floppa

he has all the flops

[azure topaz]

how many flops does an hd 7950 have

[buoyant bridge]

Maybe 5/32nd

[tidal geyser]

rip

[azure topaz]

peak performance

[buoyant bridge]

2.87 apparently

[azure topaz]

okay add 50% and thats the perfoormance of this one

[tidal geyser]

here is the bios but the bios password is in the EC chip anyways so you cant do anything sadly

[azure topaz]

yeah L

i do nothing then

[buoyant bridge]

isn't there a way to reset the EC still?

[azure topaz]

nah not on those ones

already looked it up, patched out/removed on purpose for newer models

[buoyant bridge]

<\3

[azure topaz]

its unfortunate cause its a pristine laptop lol

but whateva maybe if i get bored ill part it out

[buoyant bridge]

Could swap the board and sell the old one for parts

[frail sequoia]

what do yous think of it so far, im trying to make my own liminal space

[tidal geyser]

you can reflash the EC but its not easy or cheap

[azure topaz]

yeah id much rather replace it but still

[buoyant bridge]

Why's it not cheap?

[azure topaz]

way too much, id need hot air and a flasher, etc

replacement chip, a firmware in the first place

prolly over 100-200$ and for a laptop i dont need

idc atp lol

when i get bored maybe

[tidal geyser]

and i cant even find the bios file for the p17 so good luck with the EC

[azure topaz]

i get my fix through modifying graphic card

[worn willow]

Can phone battery explode

[tidal geyser]

yes

[worn willow]

How

[tidal geyser]

thermal runaway

[orchid trellis]

Whats the best way to put 2 SSDs in raid 1 for an OS drive? MB raid? Raid card? Im looking to possibly use trunas for the os

[worn willow]

How its caused

[azure topaz]

dont use a raid card use software raid, truenas will do that for you

[tidal geyser]

laptop repair feels like drip feeding myself crack due to how long it is between buying then getting then like 15min to diagnose then 2-4 weeks to get the part

[azure topaz]

do every form of storage management through truenas and not externally

[orchid trellis]

Nuclear reactors with a postive temperature coefficient of reactivity also have this.

[orchid trellis]

So if i have 2 of the same drive, trunas will do it for my if i just configure it?

[azure topaz]

yes

[calm plaza]

content creators have been giving r7 5800xt shoutouts recently and its nice to see, it's perception as bad price to performance is outdated but also justified from launch. during the ram crisis this is relevant. although i think objectively the 14600kf is the better choice for budget mid-high end pc building, some are afraid of instability issues from a few years ago maybe thats not a conversation people are ready to have

[orchid trellis]

👍

[tidal geyser]

either a issue with the battery where it can do so or the battery gets punctured and you see what happens when lithium and water in the air mix.

[azure topaz]

the 5800xt is a very poor choice now and forever

[worn willow]

Does it have cool flames

[lapis talon]

If I take my portable SSD with me in my carryon or laptop backpack, will TSA stop me?

[azure topaz]

its a more expensive 5800x/5700x for 0 gain new and used

if you get it for cheaper than that then obviously its fine, if you didnt, you got ripped off

shrimple

[sinful cobalt]

no

[azure topaz]

and yeah intel lga 1700 is the clear winner over anything am4 unless you get x3d for cheap by getting lucky

[lapis talon]

You sure? Internation flight to Thailand

[sinful cobalt]

no

[tidal geyser]

as long as it does not have a battery inside of it, its fine

[lapis talon]

Aight Ty

[calm plaza]

thats the outdated information im referring to, a 5700x is around 175-190usd, a 5800x is often 244 usd, while the 5800xt is on offical newegg/amazon sellers for 219, the deal wont last forever but this has been the case for the last four months
this doesn't apply to used/refurbished

[lapis talon]

Aight

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-cat-gif-5858640239144030160

[tidal geyser]

14600kf is 230USD brand new

[azure topaz]

if youre buying several year old am4 chips brand new to save money not buying ddr5, you should really consider buying used lol

but also still the 5700x is the winner

[calm plaza]

yeah i know, thats my point about the 14600kf being better

[azure topaz]

175-190 usd with no meaningful performance loss from the 5800x or xt

👍 buy that one

[tidal geyser]

if i already had am4 ofc i would go am4 but if im buying all new or well i do not already have a desktop then lga 1700

[azure topaz]

yah

[calm plaza]

thats my philosophy

[warm anvil]

do flash games not work on firefox based browsers

[tidal geyser]

they work on firefox based browsers

[calm plaza]

for building new pc's either wait, have unlimited disposable income, or use lga 1700

[tidal geyser]

its just flash that died many many years ago

[warm anvil]

probably something weird with librewolf

[warm anvil]

i meant itch

[worn willow]

How does lithium smell like

[warm anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-cobain-nirvana-kurt-caysproverse-antho-gif-5318055788614243841

[azure topaz]

me fr

[warm anvil]

someone give me a good southpark episode to watch

[buoyant bridge]

Flash doesn't work on any browser, you need to be on versions of that browser from before 2019 with old flash player

[worn willow]

What

[warm anvil]

nirvana has a song called lithium

[azure topaz]

i should do something while i am still awake ig idk what tho

[tidal geyser]

Hmmmm 2nd cpu still the same issue

[warm anvil]

learn how to do a backflip

[worn willow]

I mean the lithium in battery

[buoyant bridge]

itch has pretty agressive anti bot measures which might conflict with librewolf tbh

[warm anvil]

thats probably it

[buoyant bridge]

idk why people willingly use librewolf it sucks

[warm anvil]

i just installed chrome to play happywheels for 10 minutes then delete it

[azure topaz]

ungoogled chromium

[warm anvil]

i like it with some tweaks

[buoyant bridge]

This

[azure topaz]

if you really care just use that

[tidal geyser]

i just use helium

[warm anvil]

whats helium

[tidal geyser]

well i mix helium and firefox on linux

[tidal geyser]

fast as shit

[exotic cape]

Mobo

[azure topaz]

a noble gas

[warm anvil]

i use librewolf on my pc and ironfox on my phone with duckduckgo on both

[azure topaz]

its a different core tho idk

what board you have sim

[warm anvil]

should i try it

is it in the aur

[exotic cape]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-balloons-float-fly-lol-gif-3518380

[tidal geyser]

its a different pc

[exotic cape]

You....

[tidal geyser]

its a whole different computer :3

[buoyant bridge]

I use regular firefox

[exotic cape]

You are the problem

[azure topaz]

lol

[warm anvil]

sim

[tidal geyser]

yes

[warm anvil]

is helium in the aur

[tidal geyser]

i feel like maybe occt extreme might be a bit too much

[buoyant bridge]

Arch losix

[warm anvil]

arch peakux

[ivory mountain]

Should be helium-browser-bin or helium-browser

[warm anvil]

alr

[azure topaz]

idk i see a lot of just blown up am4 cpus from improper pbo settings

i have one myself, it doesnt work at dynamic clocks

[gleaming rose]

my 14700k has been great

[azure topaz]

hurrrrrrrr 10x scalar

[tidal geyser]

I was gonna sell this PC like this but thought I put in a b550 but no, also case is loud af due to no pwm control

[worn willow]

Should i stab a battery

[gleaming rose]

lenovo please hurry up and release the gen11 yoga 9i

[gleaming rose]

sure but do it outside and wear ppe

[tidal geyser]

what a pain

[worn willow]

Ppe?

[gleaming rose]

personal protection equipment

[buoyant bridge]

Is yeah.net even a real email service

[azure topaz]

need that

[worn willow]

I dont have any
So im gonna improvise
And do it not at home

[buoyant bridge]

apparently it's some tiwanese email service

[tidal geyser]

Like my power cable floppa?

[gleaming rose]

i mean any domain can have an email

[azure topaz]

yes get a bigger power supply tho

[gleaming rose]

my ech0.dev domain has an email setup

[azure topaz]

yeah this is true i usedd to have a floppa related one setup

[buoyant bridge]

I know that but yeah.net sounds so random

[gleaming rose]

well does it matter?

[buoyant bridge]

I'm gonna make a yeah.net email and forward it to my main rmail😭 😭 😭

[gleaming rose]

in the grand scheme of things outlook.com is also as random

[frail sequoia]

why does that look like my ps2 slim power unit/supply/cable 😭

the breakaway looking bit

[tidal geyser]

No

[frail sequoia]

this part

[azure topaz]

fatass strain relief

[tidal geyser]

no

i thought floppa would know

sadge, i am disappointed in you

[azure topaz]

idk im rgarded and theres no context

[gleaming rose]

this is a ferrite thing and it protects the cable from EMI

[worn willow]

Imagine making a email that is
[e-mail]

[gleaming rose]

??

[azure topaz]

are you referencing somehting here or is it me whos going crazy

[gleaming rose]

you're nuts

[calm plaza]

there was a genuine instability concern near launch for 14000 series, but those have been fixed. the graph doesn't surprise me, the context of "field failures" are a combination of failed overclocking, poor cooling, and genuine architecture-based stability failures while "shop failures" are between buying a suspiciously underpriced processor from a poorly rated ali express seller and things going wrong in the assembly line.

[worn willow]

Is lithium venomous or poisonous

[gleaming rose]

ok maybe you puncturing a battery without PPE is just darwinism

[frail sequoia]

Yes

[gleaming rose]

holy

[tidal geyser]

What the why does it have one

[worn willow]

It cant be that bad

[frail sequoia]

Cause yes

[gleaming rose]

mf you just asked me deadass if lithium was venomous