tech-chat-1

[livid perch]

ok lets see for 3500 usd what i can build

[magic trout]

there is a literal error message on that screen

[tidal geyser]

try logging out and then logging back in

[fringe prairie]

some 9850x3d/5080 build

[livid perch]

im trynna maximize ram rn

js to prove a point

[frigid blade]

2x8gb ddr5 kits should be illegal

8gb dimms in general

[tidal geyser]

8GB ddr5 was not meant to be made

[plain cypress]

This is true

[tidal geyser]

think it was something about testing the FAB or something

[livid perch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7QBPxf

[rose stream]

It's interesting if they exist though.

[livid perch]

3300 usd and 128 gigs of ddr 5

[fringe prairie]

what in gods name do you need 128gb ram for

[livid perch]

Nth js proving a point

[frigid blade]

https://tenor.com/view/sesame-street-cookie-monster-eats-your-art-eating-muppet-crazy-eyes-gif-1461380403278441959

yummy ram

[fringe prairie]

[unique aspen]

i wanna get linux but cant coz 1 stupid issule

[magic trout]

8GB sticks of DDR5 have the same place in the market as 4GB DDR4 had. You only need it to boot as cheap as possible

[rose stream]

Which is?

[tidal geyser]

and das

[unique aspen]

this needs 470.12 drivers or doesnt work

[tidal geyser]

ah yea

[frigid blade]

what

[tidal geyser]

@ Mod

probs should really premtive mod this before uh he says things

[frigid blade]

whys it gotta be a polak

[livid perch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vY8KH3

this is what i would actually build if i had 5090 mone

[frigid blade]

id buy a new car

[livid perch]

real

[ivory mountain]

what do u think buddy

😭

[fringe prairie]

not even the 9800x3d?

and crappy ssd oh why 😭

[livid perch]

THEY EXPENSIVE

[fringe prairie]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z98Pxr/crucial-p510-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-50-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct2000p510ssd8

this is way better for $100 less

[tidal geyser]

cooking the cache is cooler

[livid perch]

real

i js picked a random ssd tbh

[silent peak]

thats not the issue cause ive used it jsut fine with that i know that

[ivory mountain]

⁨<@&750150305383186585>⁩ i just have a feeling this dudes gonna start posting weird shit on top of asking if racism is allowed in this server can you just go ahead and ban

[tidal geyser]

this is such a pain

yes i know

but sometimes it has issues and logging out then back in can fix it, had to help someone do just that a month back

[topaz shale]

viewing deleted discord messages breaks tos

[tidal geyser]

thanks momo

[topaz shale]

welp looks like he gone

[ivory mountain]

good

mfs need to grow up

[latent gull]

But that’s no fun :(

[frigid blade]

discord barely enforces those parts of the ToS

[tidal geyser]

or whatever ghostly mod is here

[topaz shale]

true, but servers like this care about enforcing tos

[ivory mountain]

hahahha me racist me funny hahah - edgy mfs in this server that are no older than 13

[tidal geyser]

this is partnered so if it breaks it das a quick ban of de server

[topaz shale]

if you have a client like that you are better off not exposing that to a server like this

[tidal geyser]

yup

i would never use a 3rd party client

[frigid blade]

i like BetterDiscord

[tidal geyser]

o no

[ivory olive]

Is 5070ti good for 500 usd?

[frigid blade]

best for free

[tidal geyser]

scam?

[plush wren]

p sure they have a flag to see if the user is using a modded discord client

[topaz shale]

that seems a little low, is it a trustworthy source?

[frigid blade]

never seen a modded client ban

[tidal geyser]

think the lowest iv seen a working 5070 ti for is like 700$ ish

[plush wren]

me neither

[latent gull]

That’s different than just saying people need to grow up, being a literal child is different than acting like a child

[rose stream]

I've used Datcord for the fun of it and Armcord just to see what it could do.
Eventually, I just went back to using the standard client in the end.

[ivory mountain]

i was implying that people who make edgy racist jokes need to grow up, my fault for the bad wording

[frigid blade]

ive only used clients to view names of hidden channels and who can read them

[topaz shale]

honestly not many aditional features i really need in discord, i mainly use the standard client

[tidal geyser]

discord on linux has no issues

[rose stream]

Datcord was basically just a proof-of-concept that you could build Discord's client in the Gecko (Firefox) equivalent of Electron.

[plush wren]

openasar is interesting but hella buggy

[frigid blade]

theres an active plugin that allows you to send encrypted messages that on regular clients shows a regular message, on the modded client you see a hidden message

[rose stream]

Then Armcord was basically a lightweight desktop client, but made for ARM-based devices before just being ported over to desktop.

[frigid blade]

its pretty cool

[topaz shale]

that does sound cool but also pretty useless for most cases

[rose stream]

Yeah and I just wanted to see how well those two worked for the hell of it.

[frigid blade]

yah its useless, just cool

[rose stream]

Honestly, Armcord did impress me with having customization Discord's main client didn't have yet, but otherwise it was pointless for a daily driver.

[topaz shale]

is discord profitable yet?

[plush wren]

fuck is armcord

oh i see

[frigid blade]

discord on arm lol

[plush wren]

yea

[topaz shale]

discord seems to have done a good job monetizing without enshitifying their platform too much

[frigid blade]

they basically have ads now

[topaz shale]

yeah but not real annoying ones

[rose stream]

Mmmm depends.

[frigid blade]

the event popups, thankfully you can disable

[topaz shale]

exactly

[rose stream]

Desktop has some odd issues that could be tolerated.

[topaz shale]

i have opted out of pop ups, quests, and the orbs shop and i dont pay for discord. i can still make and join as many servers as i like, and when i get free nitro i get cool emojis

[rose stream]

Meanwhile mobile client (mostly on Android) will sometimes turn into a hot mess of compatibility issues, slow af loading, and some other weird bugs and glitches.

[topaz shale]

i havent had any of those issues

im not really a power user though

[plush wren]

discord is slow af

[topaz shale]

idk what yall doing to make discord slow

[tidal geyser]

my phones discord has been just fine

[tidal geyser]

old ass phone

[topaz shale]

discord works perfectly fine on all devices for me

[plush wren]

i have 1.3k gifs but i dont think that should affect anything

[topaz shale]

what phone you got?

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-with-sunglasses-driving-car-gif-1633248089450137490

[tidal geyser]

oneplus 13r

same cpu as in the steam frames

[topaz shale]

you like mobile games?

[rose stream]

Nothing by choice. Network is slow here in various places.

[tidal geyser]

i can play portal 1 at like 50 fps

[topaz shale]

thats based

[tidal geyser]

but no i do not play any games on anything now a days

i just build towers of laptops

[topaz shale]

a rule ive been following for phones is buy the highest model of a few years back

i have an s24 ultra 512gb for like 600$

samsung phones actually drop so quickly in value is nuts

[rose stream]

I've only gotten whatever made sense at the time or could afford.

[tidal geyser]

tis what i always say, if you buy a budget device its always budget

but with phones it does not hold up so well

[rose stream]

Which the first two I never really had much of a choice anyway.

[tidal geyser]

with phones a cheap plastic box aint gonna do so much when its so small vs a laptop where a cheap plastic frame could literally break the motherboard by just holding the laptop

[topaz shale]

when the price of an s24 ultra is cheaper than base model's MSRP i think it only makes sense

[rose stream]

My first phone was literally my sister's first: the LG VX3200.

[topaz shale]

you go a couple more years back and it drops by half again

[ivory olive]

Idk. I just got it. I'll test soon

[topaz shale]

how did you purchase the 5070ti?

marketplace? online store? friend?

[rose stream]

Then my second was a Samsung Juke, since my sister was buying herself a new phone (which was an Envy 2) and she got a deal for two phones, but there were only two options. One of them was another basic flip phone, so I chose the Juke.

[tidal geyser]

wait a few months and make 2x the money back

[topaz shale]

5070ti is quite a good card to get for 500$

jeez

[tidal geyser]

yup

[rose stream]

Now the 4th phone was the first one I ever bought for myself and also was my first ever smartphone.

A purchase I... Sometimes wondered if it was even worth making.

[latent gull]

HTC phones are ewaste imo

[ivory olive]

Marketplace

[fringe prairie]

i had a htc one m9 a couple of years ago

[rose stream]

The Butterfly/DROID DNA was my original choice, but it was the one I couldn't afford and the One M7 was on sale and they were... Fairly similar?
So I got the One M7.

It sucks if you want something actually durable.

... Which it wasn't... And made the point to why aluminum-chassis phones were a hard buy back then beyond being "premium" feeling.

[ivory mountain]

yo actually fuck this game

[rose stream]

Nowadays, in retrospect I find that notion to be kinda stupid because as good as it feels, it's annoying when you have to replace it multiple times over because it's fragile af.

At least my 4th phone, my old Xperia XA2, did a ton better and was a great experience overall for as long as that lasted.

Took maybe 3-4 years before that thing finally started to even have issues? Still works too.

Now... Welp, gonna see how far I can get with the Phone (3a). So far, it's been good, but it's not been long enough to say how good it is.

[plain cypress]

These days? Yes
13 years ago? HTC was peak

[rose stream]

Yeah they were.

[plain cypress]

Closer to 15 years ago now oh fuck I'm old

[rose stream]

Their innovation kinda died though after a while, trying to compete with both Apple and Samsung.

[plain cypress]

Samsung and Apple both had significantly more resources

[rose stream]

Last phone they put out from what I remember was that one (explicitly stated to be for) crypto phone.

[plain cypress]

And HTC fell victim to the "make a slightly different model for each carrier" plague

[rose stream]

Great specs, dumb marketing, no one to really impress.

[plain cypress]

HTC was effectively dead by 2017

[rose stream]

Eventually got outdated anyway really fast.

[rose stream]

Well their phone making arm was, yeah.

They're around still, but only with VR and such.

[plain cypress]

Yeah the VR side still exists for now

[rose stream]

Not clear how well they're holding up right now though.

If they're surviving, that's something.
However, they don't seem to be a significant-enough worth mention for anyone these days.

Valve, BPB, Meta, Sony, Apple, and all the rest have something to keep people's eyes peeled, while HTC feels like a no-show.

[gritty panther]

HTC is toast

even their standalone VR headsets weren't very good.

[rose stream]

Yeah, which makes me confused sometimes how they're still alive somehow.

They just don't have anything really anyone wants unless it's sellers, companies, services, and whatnot locked into a deal with them or something, but even that would probably be a bit of a stretch.

[spark lichen]

is there any software that can log cpu temps over a period of gaming and make a graph from it?

[clear canyon]

MSI afterburner

[spark lichen]

i wanna see something, bc im at like ~60c for a couple hours, then all of a sudden it jumps to 90-95 and then just stays there constantly until i close the game

i even saw a peak of 102c

but that was just for a second

[latent gull]

Sorry I don’t live in the boomer timeline

[clear canyon]

what cpu and cpu cooler

[spark lichen]

9800x3d and a lian li hydroshift 2 AIO

[clear canyon]

did you remove the sticker on the copper part that goes on the cpu

[hexed tapir]

2011 was 15 years ago

[carmine yew]

Hwinfo64

[clear canyon]

STOP

[spark lichen]

yes

[clear canyon]

is ur pump running?

[ivory mountain]

konosuba s4 confirmed in development we are so up

[spark lichen]

oh how do i get that to make a graph?

[clear canyon]

yeah, im excited

[spark lichen]

i think so?

[clear canyon]

you can tell if you put ur ear next to it

[carmine yew]

There are tutorials on yt

[hexed tapir]

The Xbox 360 is 20 years old (2005 November)

[clear canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/what-starlord-star-lord-what-guardians-of-the-galaxy-i-know-that-sounds-bad-gif-20738349

[carmine yew]

Touch the tubes.

One should be warmer and you should feel vibration from the pump

[carmine yew]

The N64 and PS1 are like 30

[hexed tapir]

Then you better run after it and catch it

[spark lichen]

yeah i feel vibrations

what line of the CPU temp in hwinfo is the one i should be looking at again?

Like, this is just with me watching YouTube...sounds way too loud

I know the 9800x3d is meant to run hot but damn

[sinful cobalt]

9800x3: with what looks to be a 5070 white ventus trio

[spark lichen]

5080

[limpid dune]

hard to say how loud an AIO should be but they're usually audible

[grizzled frost]

inaudible*

[topaz shale]

w choso fan

[limpid dune]

okay maybe I just have shite AIOs 😭

[spark lichen]

hes the goat

[plain cypress]

Me when the math

[plain cypress]

Or not enough tinnitus

[steel umbra]

tune your fan curves

[clear canyon]

fan your tune curves

[cerulean dawn]

guys why does it say i need organizations permission to turn on location services on win11? the pc is mine and i didnt have anything like that before i updated to win11 yesterday

[spark lichen]

the AIO manual said that if im powering it directly from the motherboard, to set both cpu_fan and cpu_opt to max

[plain cypress]

Did you get the permission of your organization yes or no

[clear canyon]

you setup ur windows11 in a domain

[cerulean dawn]

eh maybe

idk my dad just started downloading it from microsoft site i think

[cerulean dawn]

there is no org

[clear canyon]

when setting up windows, did you sign into a work account and join a domain

[plain cypress]

Are you absolutely sure about that

[latent gull]

Sounds like there’s an org

[cerulean dawn]

bro its my own pc

[clear canyon]

bc that only happens when ur in an organization/domain

[plain cypress]

Not anymore

[latent gull]

It’s Microsoft’s pc and your just logging into it

[cerulean dawn]

bro how do i fix ts

[cerulean dawn]

huh??

[plain cypress]

Penguins

[cerulean dawn]

i had w10 before this and its the same pc

[clear canyon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuOIiNLZ9as&t=563s

[plain cypress]

Now you're enjoying windows 11

[cerulean dawn]

no bro i cant do half the stuff i could do on w10

i only updated so i could play cs2 on faceit

[plain cypress]

Me when rounded corners appear 😡

[clear canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/loading-discord-loading-discord-boxes-squares-gif-16187521

[plain cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/jason-bateman-i-dont-know-what-i-expected-arrested-development-micheal-bluth-idk-what-i-expected-gif-10013682

[cerulean dawn]

theres nothing to change it was never part of a domain ig

[cerulean dawn]

d

[plain cypress]

Okay but is it part of a domain now

[cerulean dawn]

no

its workgroup

although this isnt a work pc idk

[clear canyon]

idk then tbh

[cerulean dawn]

bru

theres no org bro what do i do

[ivory mountain]

did u use christitustech script

[cerulean dawn]

huh

[long cradle]

Decided to use my other computer the other day.

[cosmic stratus]

Adrenaline software is lowkey ass

Randomly unresponsive for no damm reason

[cerulean dawn]

if u wanna know i solved it i can send the link if u want

[clear canyon]

im good on the link, what did you do?

[cerulean dawn]

well i just opened cmd as admin and pasted in some lines

i can send the microsoft link if u want

[clear canyon]

lmao

na im good

[main sleet]

So chat....... I hear differing reports from various places. Some people say Seagate make bad hard drives, some say theyre just fine. Whats the consensus on them?

[ivory mountain]

fine for me, only issue i have with it is it wont if im tryna open it right as i boot

[rose sorrel]

Is it me or I am snob about how my screen protector is Put on ?

[glossy bloom]

It I need help with a Microsoft office issue, is the best place to get help with that the tech support channel?

[grizzled frost]

if it's a question with a one message answer, here is fine, otherwise, #1027757333117415424

[steep raptor]

Let's be honest here, that never happens

[steel umbra]

you perkele, into the hell with you

[glossy bloom]

Well. I'll ask and if the other place is better I can type a proper post.

But is there a reason a file that I update almost daily would suddenly revert to a version from 2 years ago with seemingly no trace of the current version?

I'm absolutely losing my mind. I went on vacation, returned, and my most important excel spreadsheet is "last modified August 2024"

[steel umbra]

which one powers the aio fans

[clear canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-meme-gif-15072913808165980036

[limpid dune]

could it be that Dropbox silently swapped out your Documents/Downloads folders?

[spark lichen]

aio fans are plugged into the fan hub which is plugged into sys_fan

[glossy bloom]

No. I was under the impression it was saved locally on my computer. But it's gone. All I can find now is a copy that is missing all the data I've entered since August 2024.

This is a document I've saved hundreds of times. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

The only cloud related service that could possibly be involved is one drive. And I'm under the impression my copy was saved locally.

[steel umbra]

only fans are plugged into that fan hub right?

[spark lichen]

yesh

[steel umbra]

go to bios and tune your curve

[limpid dune]

I was under the impression it was saved locally on my computer.
...so were all of us 😅 but OneDrive just kinda does that these days. Was the file in Desktop/Documents/Downloads/Pictures/Videos? If so, it could be it, go check onedrive and see if a newer copy is there

[steel umbra]

i prefer and usually recommend exponential curves, like virtually silent until hits 80 degrees

[limpid dune]

I can't think of any other reasonable explanation

[glossy bloom]

Documents if my memory serves. I no longer have one drive access. But a copy of my one drive was sent to me and the version there is the same 2024 version. It's as if I hallucinated updating it since then

[limpid dune]

It might be that Windows saw the OneDrive copy and overwrote the local copy with it. I had this happen to my RDR2 saves (which are in Documents)

[cosmic stratus]

yea it'll always take a moment on boot

[glossy bloom]

How does windows overwrite a new version with an old version and delete my current copy?

[limpid dune]

I dunno, but it did that to me

[spark lichen]

so tune sys fans in bios and leave the other 2 at max like the manual said?

[glossy bloom]

So I'm fucked?

[limpid dune]

my VM isn't letting me do this because I'm not logged in, but for me, I was able to got to OneDrive and it had a copy of Desktop in there

[charred hinge]

#1468050870427193498 pls 😔😔

[limpid dune]

See if the OneDrive settings will let you desync or do something. Also check disk recovery services because the file is still probably somewhere on there

[glossy bloom]

I'm not able to sign in to one drive

I no longer have access

[limpid dune]

you don't necessarily have to sign in, just check

close the sign in prompt if it pops up

[glossy bloom]

One drive is completely empty

On my pc

[keen folio]

Considering the current RAM prices this seems like a steal for only 740€

[candid bolt]

Anyone that can reconmend a lcd aio?

200-300 dollers

For this pc

[steel umbra]

if the other one or two power your pump then leave them at max if it doesn’t make much noise

if one of them doesn’t power pump or vrm cooling you don’t need to leave it at max

[ivory mountain]

you have the best performing aio on the market already lmao

[candid bolt]

Ik... but I really want a lcd aio

[limpid dune]

I'm not a genius but it looks like there's already an AIO on there, and a good one too

[ivory mountain]

thermalright grand vision 360

$100 usd

[limpid dune]

$300 will get you any AIO yo uwant

[ivory mountain]

300 usd on an aio but still using ddr4 isnt smart

buy the thermalright grand vision 360

[candid bolt]

Heard that the pump is loud

[cold skiff]

Lemme guess

[ivory mountain]

its not honestly, lf3 has a really loud pump so itll honestly be quieter all things considered

[candid bolt]

?

[cold skiff]

You’re getting rid of one of the best AIOs to exist because the pump is loud and you thought the vrm fan on the block would be silent?

[ivory mountain]

no they want one of those LCD screen aios

[candid bolt]

Oh no no, the aio is quiet asf

Temps are also amazing!

[cold skiff]

Then it sounds like you don’t need anything else

[candid bolt]

But I really want a lcd screen:/

[cold skiff]

You can just buy an lcd screen

[candid bolt]

Wdym

[cold skiff]

It’s a fuck ton cheaper too

[ivory mountain]

they arent worth it honestly

not worth buying a whole new AIO just for a display youll never look at

[cold skiff]

You buy a mini lcd screen for like £80 or a portable monitor.. and you connect it by usb.. and you jut stick it in your case

It’s bigger than an AIO screen and it can do whatever you want

[candid bolt]

Ye ig

[cold skiff]

For you though, you’re using 3m and sticking it to the glass panel

[candid bolt]

Lwk js want my pc to LOOK better

[cold skiff]

To look better?

[molten sleet]

if money isn't an issue and the aio isn't necessarily a downgrade (still decent temps + quiet) i'd say go for it man it's your money and your build

[candid bolt]

Ye

[cold skiff]

What gpu and cpu?

[candid bolt]

5600x and 3060ti...💀

[cold skiff]

Save it and get a better gpu

You have an overkill aio already

[candid bolt]

Ik

Lwk trying to get the 9070xt aourus elite

[ivory mountain]

if these are your specs why the hell are you spending 200-300 on an aio

[ivory mountain]

yessir

[candid bolt]

Looks🤷‍♂️

[ivory mountain]

9070xt is an amazing card

[candid bolt]

Yessir😎

[ivory mountain]

im getting on when i get paid

one*

[molten sleet]

sell good aio, use money buy cheaper aio with screen, use the other funds to buy a better gpu

[ivory mountain]

9070xt taichi oc

[candid bolt]

Aint falling for Allat "5070 ti" propaganda

[candid bolt]

I bought the artic for 60 bucks

[ivory mountain]

5070ti is an amazing card however i cant justify spending $400 more minimum for a small boost in upscaling quality

[cold skiff]

Tbh fl3 isn’t expensive

[candid bolt]

Almost new, he unpacked it, didn't fit, sold it to me

[candid bolt]

Aint ever gon use fake frames

Only using the 3060 ti cuz it was free

[ivory mountain]

I wasnt referring to frame gen

[cold skiff]

Sell 3060ti + use cash from that and 300 to get a 9060xt 16gb

[candid bolt]

Mb

[cold skiff]

That’s the only upgrade really

[candid bolt]

Mby

[ivory mountain]

Just save for a 9070xt honestly

[cold skiff]

More vram, 20ish% more performance and fsr4 but no dlss

[cold skiff]

You know by the end of the year it’s gonna be like $1k

[ivory mountain]

Its not, they used GDDR6, hense why its barely gone up in price

[cold skiff]

If he’s saving he’s gonna have to be quick or save more

[ivory mountain]

Nvidia used GDDR7 that they barely have access to

[cold skiff]

It’s not about the cost for gddr6, it’s about the availability

If you can’t buy Nvidia 16gb, people will buy AMD for the vram and supply will go

[ivory mountain]

Its in stockpiles, it came out in 2018, im glad they stuck with gddr6

[cold skiff]

You also have to factor in the gpu die

And the wafer availability for that is getting smaller

Every day

[ivory mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/prison-school-gakuto-serious-gif-16786910823722197605

[cold skiff]

2026 is going to be another Covid year. Things will go up and up

I don’t expect 2027 to get better either

[ivory mountain]

I do, everyone hates ai, theyre gonna go bankrupt

They arent making any money

[cold skiff]

Everyone hates AI?

[ivory mountain]

90% of people dont use it or find it annoying and intrusive

[cold skiff]

You’ve met 90% of people?

[ashen cape]

i lowk enjoy the google ai bot, too bad i never know if its actually accurate

[ivory mountain]

Oh dont do this rn u know what i meant

[cold skiff]

I mean, if you’re a gamer and you hate AI you’re pretty dumb. Especially an Nvidia user

Upscaling is pretty awesome

[candid bolt]

Ai took away my ram.

[fringe prairie]

sucks to suck ig

[ivory mountain]

AI was cool until they got greedy and fucked up the whole consumer market

[cold skiff]

Again though if you hate AI, just don’t buy Nvidia… or AMD…

Pretty sure Intel is in that market too but not as strong

[fringe prairie]

WE are all buying 1080tis

[cold skiff]

I guess you could settle for Intel

[fringe prairie]

xess? it’s not bad from what i’ve heard

they have their own mfg and everything

[cold skiff]

I meant overall as a company but xess isn’t too bad just outdated now

Quality wise it’s more like fsr3

Be good to see what Intel do next with that

[fringe prairie]

hm they just announced xess 3 last month but

https://www.techspot.com/news/111085-intel-xess-3-multi-frame-generation-now-rolling.html

[ivory mountain]

Xess looks much better than FSR3 but the performance uplift isnt that great

[cold skiff]

They did? That’s good. I think Intel suck as a cpu manufacturer but gpu.. on the pulse, like them

[fringe prairie]

dunno $240 265k is pretty tempting to me

if you mean their x3d competitor yeah they have nothing

[cold skiff]

They suck more so for price and aggressiveness on cpu front tbh

Always have been anti competitive

[fringe prairie]

i’d say they’re decently competitive with amds non-x3d

[cold skiff]

Still is but Intel if it suited and worked for me so I don’t really care. Brand loyalty, everyone does bad shit tbh

I don’t get the brand loyalty thing tbh

And I’ve only ever owned like 1 Intel CPU purely because cost/performance

[ashen cape]

will my 5600x, 3060 12gb and 32gb ddr4 last till am6 playing games like the upcoming tombraider one?

[cold skiff]

I’d have owned another Intel CPU but I waited to see what x3d was gonna be like.. I made a good decision to wait

[ashen cape]

i was thinking of maybe getting a 9060xt 16gb to play newer games on higher settings but im not sure if thats a worthy upgrade

[cold skiff]

It’s a fine upgrade - like 25%

[ashen cape]

what abt on 1440p? currently on 1080p

[fringe prairie]

like 40%

[ivory mountain]

9060xt is so much better

[ashen cape]

not sure if 40% is justifiable, just cba getting a new pc atm with current prices

if i were to get a 9060xt is there any cpu upgrade on am4 that would help boost my performance excluding x3d ones?

[ivory mountain]

not worth it

[valid garden]

whos suprised by gemini?
nobody.

[wispy thunder]

What

[atomic prawn]

Kill AI. Behead AI. Roundhouse kick AI into a trashcan.

[ivory mountain]

i know the origin of this text

😭

[valid garden]

I call cap, its abseloutely hallucinating

[warm flower]

A PBO overclock tune might help you out.

[halcyon fox]

Too much weight for my end table? Nah. Let's add more

Just got this to convert my room setup to 5.2 surround sound

[random gyro]

sup

[spark path]

my GPU is not pulling enough energy while am playing warframe and am barely getting 100 fps

[clever junco]

so what's with these steam decks going for about $100? seems odd that there are 3 of them for going at such an oddly specific amount and for so cheap

[formal sonnet]

Sniff sniff... do you smell that? sniff. Smells like a scam, or perhaps defective / faulty Steam Decks.

[clever junco]

it just seems odd to me that people would try to scam me in irl meetups

i could just, ask to see it work

[formal sonnet]

While I want to believe most humans are good people... there certainly are some who will do all kinds of things to get other people to part with their money. 🤷

[clever junco]

i guess so

there's about 20 more of these steam deck listings in my area at oddly specific prices around $100 lol

must be some sort of operation

[gusty eagle]

Host Interface : NVMe PCIe Gen3x4
Form Factor : M.2 2280
Controller : SMI SM2263EN
Flash : SK Hynix 3D 72-Layer NAND Flash
Maximum Seq. Read : 1500MB/S
Maximum Seq. Write : 1300MB/S

Is this ssd good or nah yall ?

[high elm]

bottom of the barrel bro

like the worst of the worst

my toshiba ssd from 2017 is faster than that

[spark path]

should you keep this on?

[hollow grail]

ja

[gusty eagle]

I mean its still an upgrade from my sata ssd tbh

Plus i got it for a ok price

[red light]

So i was watching cosplay video and no one talking about that workstation server motherboard over here?

Do you know that looked like lga 2011 but I don't remember the main board lga number series

[grizzled nova]

cosplaying what

[red light]

Twisted wonderland

I'm trying to find that something looks similar of motherboard

[grizzled nova]

idk what that is

[glacial cliff]

anyone know why with my only enabled speakers set to 0, i still hear shit?

like whats the point of sound controls if they don't control sound?

[grizzled nova]

id say it looks from supermicro but the dimms are black and white

[thin bloom]

What ram you think I should pick? I'm planning to upgrade the ram

[grizzled nova]

honestly if you already have memory

then uh
i wouldnt

[thin bloom]

It currently has 2x8. I would get a set of 2x16 ram but pc wouldn't get 64

[spark path]

rx 9070 xt, how's this?

[grizzled nova]

“but pc wouldnt get 64”
what does this mean

so you want 64gb mem
so you have to get a fully new kit as your current one is 2x8

is 16G not enough?

[grizzled frost]

4 dimm kit bad

[ivory mountain]

basic ass green pcb ddr4 should be sold in stockpiles on ebay out of office pcs

[grizzled nova]

its ddr4

[grizzled frost]

still bad

[grizzled nova]

why

[ivory mountain]

bas

[grizzled frost]

same reasons as ddr5, just not quite to the same degree

[thin bloom]

No it's not. Sometimes when I'm running games it makes the ram hit maybe 97% so I have to run razer cortex to fix the ram clog that happens

[ivory mountain]

how about we stop using razer cortex bud

[grizzled nova]

less stable, cant oc super well
i doubt this person is ocing mem

[grizzled frost]

for more money than you’d expect

[ivory mountain]

good thing i have so many then

[thin bloom]

Well it's the only thing that fixes the ram problem I have

[ivory mountain]

razer cortex uses more ram than it saves

[thin bloom]

For the past few years of owning my pc

[grizzled nova]

why not just go with an additional 2x8 then
(but you should probably clean your windows install first)

[ivory mountain]

go to the penguin

[grizzled nova]

yep

[glacial cliff]

anyone know why the sound settings on my pc dont actualyl control sound? No other sound devices enabled/installed jsut pure "lol that slider is useless" mode

[grizzled nova]

but even when i was on windows with 32G i never used over 16 unless i was playing modded mc

[ivory mountain]

i use windows+g menu and it works fine

[thin bloom]

Your saying to reinstall windows?

[glacial cliff]

also all the way down there too, still have sounds

[ivory mountain]

strange

[glacial cliff]

no other output devices

[ivory mountain]

im not great with audio sorry, i use a focusrite knob on my desk

[grizzled nova]

how much have you optimized and debloated your win install

[thin bloom]

Hmmmm... I don't know

I hade to reinstall windows a few weeks ago

So I think I did none of that

[grizzled nova]

personally when im iding in my win11 optimized install
im sitting at 0-1% cpu usage and about 200-300MB memory used on my thinkpad x7 carbon

[thin bloom]

I know I could got with 32gb ram but I rather 64

[thin bloom]

Hold on let me see what mine is at idle. I have to wake my pc from sleep mode

[plain cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/john-oliver-cool-sarcasm-sarcastic-gif-8465330

[grizzled nova]

?

[ivory mountain]

this obsession with idle ram usage has to be studied

[grizzled nova]

the main reason why i was focusing on idle ram usage is bc when hes reporting 97% usage at 16G im wondering what is running when idling

[glacial cliff]

no need to study mine, i'm autistic, and so i take a very logical view of the word "idle" and want my shit to be idle

[plain cypress]

Truly

[fringe prairie]

x7 carbon?

[grizzled nova]

x1 carbon 7th gen mb

[thin bloom]

Okay this is what my pc roughly idles at

[ocean axle]

see, im here at 10-20% (7800x3d) and 34GB, mostly idle, doing stuff in firefox mostly

[grizzled nova]

idk thats just crazy to me

but if idle usage truly doesnt matter then ok

[ocean axle]

no fucking clue what discord is doing

[thin bloom]

I had discord use around maybe 10,000 mb and force me to do a system reboot

[ocean axle]

oh, this one is also a fun screenshot for RAM util

didn't copy paste right

[ionic atlas]

Electron stuff, mostly

[ocean axle]

well, yes, i know

i still find it absurd

[ionic atlas]

It’s a shame most devs don’t know how to make a efficient electron app

I made my own screen microLED tester/8k video player with the electron as its platform as I needed fully responsive views for the display tester… electron in a subprocess which only uses 20MB it self , rest of the media player only take 5MB

But most companies be like; let’s put a bunch Web frameworks upon 200 dependencies in the app … be like 250+ mb ram minimum

Hence on my MacBook where I care for battery. I use the Safari web app feature for Discord as I know it’s energy efficient , Linux also has similar functionality on my pc laptop with KDE

[ocean axle]

and i just want native apps

[ionic atlas]

And let me tell you. If you’re using the desktop version of any electron app. They can get so much hardware info about you; I can get your bios serial number easy

I know because I used it to check GPU details for media player

[ionic atlas]

I think Apple and Huawei been the companies that’s has much stronger foundation, but they both working on that more locked eco system. SwiftUI apps is efficient and nice, same with Huawei’s Harmony OS stuff, but that’s also very eco system locked

[thin bloom]

I have decided to go with the 399.00 ram. I would go with 2x8 but I want 64 gb and I think it be hard to find a ram with the spec of my pc's current ram. I don't remember what brand it is since the old owner removed the sticker and I don't feel like restarting my pc to look at the bios

[ivory mountain]

are you really going to pay 400 dollars for 64gb of shit ram

[thin bloom]

Why you say shit ram? It's the only one that will work well for my pc

[ivory mountain]

can literally go to goodwill, get a office pc, and take the ram out

thats what the ram youre spending $400 on

[thin bloom]

I could try and find used 64gb that will work good

Hard part is to find one within the boards max ram specs

And fit within the cooler gap

[ocean axle]

why do you want 64GB?

[ivory mountain]

they dont know what they want

[tidal geyser]

Wat

[terse ravine]

Nvm im an idiot

[tidal geyser]

Yes

[terse ravine]

this didnt happen

[tidal geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/859423676457287730/1286737790322868365/2x-1.gif

[cold skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/greys-anatomy-jo-wilson-i-dont-know-what-i-want-i-do-not-know-what-i-want-undecided-gif-19634597

[cerulean dawn]

can someone help me out with this? (ive got 2 tabs open)

32gb ram

[tidal geyser]

Help with what?

[cerulean dawn]

wasnt like this on w10 exactly

[tidal geyser]

There are no issues there

[cerulean dawn]

2 tabs didnt take nearly this much

[thin bloom]

Does anyone have an idea why a pc would randomly wake up? My pc a few minutes ago my pc woke up from sleep mode

[tidal geyser]

Windows 10 is also 11 years old

[cerulean dawn]

win10 took LESS ram

[tidal geyser]

Windows

[cerulean dawn]

meaning it was more optimized

[ivory mountain]

no way an older OS from 2015 uses less ram 😱

[terse ravine]

That doesnt really change the fact two tabs on chrome shouldnt take 34% memory

[ivory mountain]

thats... the total system memory use... 😭

[cerulean dawn]

finally someone

[tidal geyser]

Yes that is how it works, more modern os more modern caching and or just advanced menus

[terse ravine]

Gang if he has only chrome open it shouldnt matter

[thin bloom]

It probably is since it wants to update but I'm not letting it

[ivory mountain]

chrome is using 1.5GB of ram

[cerulean dawn]

ik but could you explain why there is so many chrome tabs in task manager

[tidal geyser]

It's not

[cerulean dawn]

theres 14

[tidal geyser]

It's chrome background processes or something

[ivory mountain]

each extension runs its own process, each tab, each everything

same for everyone

[cerulean dawn]

alr but could u help me out rq? ive got no games running and its still 30%

isnt that kinda high ?

[ivory mountain]

idle ram usage doesnt matter

[cerulean dawn]

alr

[tidal geyser]

When playing games windows and chrome should cut down on ram usage even

[ivory mountain]

fuckin nerdddddd

[tidal geyser]

But like fkn cyberpunk was using 4GB of ram on windows last time I used it

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-with-sunglasses-driving-car-gif-1633248089450137490

[cerulean dawn]

1 more thing whenever i play and get a kill i get a notification or smth like "clip completed" how do i remove this ?

[tidal geyser]

GeForce app

Some clipping function well should be in alt+z too

[thin bloom]

I haven't done research yet but I wonder how much it will cost to buy a used set of 64gb ddr4 on the used market

[cerulean dawn]

did those settings reset since i updated from w10 or what?

[cerulean dawn]

eh its ddr4 cannot be that bad

[ivory mountain]

Considering youre buying green pcb office pc ram probably not terrible

Still dont know why you want 64

[ivory mountain]

You went to a whole new OS, yes they changed back to default

[cerulean dawn]

nah bro all my apps and every setting is the same why would that 1 thing be changed

[ivory mountain]

Why would i know

[cerulean dawn]

bc you answered?

[tidal geyser]

I hope they did

[ivory mountain]

Holy this dudes been rude since he started talking im just trying to help 😭

[cerulean dawn]

i mean i just downloaded w11 from microsoft website i didnt use a usb or smth like that

[cerulean dawn]

srry im not trying to be im just tired ive been awake the night

[plucky anvil]

i need some help, i have a 5070 ti msi vanguard but i found on ebay the cooler for a 5080 asus astral, do you think it’s possible to swap the coolers??

[ivory mountain]

Doubt it

Completely different companies, completely different heatsync designs, different pcb’s

[plucky anvil]

yeah i guess

[ivory olive]

nope

[sand terrace]

gotta love how youtube is basically managed by automated systems with basically no human oversight.

https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxBA47VQklkxVHU4auq6BsB-UbLqlQz1hL

ths is far from the only channel affected of course

i have also received copyright notices recently - where there IS NO MUSIC AT ALL

[tidal geyser]

Fun

https://tenor.com/view/cat-drinda-gif-4209197159388134598

[ebon marlin]

Lucky you

It was -21 when I left the house for work

This morning

Now it's settled at -18

It was not nice missing my bus and having to wait an additional 15 minutes in the cold

Also found a new item to steal at work this time going to my girlfriend

[tidal geyser]

In 5m my bus should come

[thin bloom]

Because one of the games I play recommend 64 gb if you are using a lot of mods and I'm using around 700 mods plus I rather to be safe and use 64 for other games

[twilit ember]

yo guys my mouse button doesnt work unless i press hard on it

[bold olive]

lucky

[twilit ember]

anyway to fix this? btw ive had it only for 3 months or so

[bold olive]

it's 33 outside rn

[twilit ember]

28 C for me

[formal sonnet]

Does it do this regardless of the computer you plug it into? Has it always done this or has it gotten worse over time?

[twilit ember]

it suddenly started happening like 2 days ago

[placid belfry]

Don’t they have specific rated clicks

[twilit ember]

i switched plugs

[placid belfry]

They go bad after a long use

[formal sonnet]

Sounds like the switch is wearing out then. Some mice switches can be replaced. Some can't. And some that can be replaced aren't worth the time / effort required to replace them.

[placid belfry]

Rip

[twilit ember]

aw

[placid belfry]

G502 is on my bucket list

[twilit ember]

some random office mouse i have has proper clicks and not this

[placid belfry]

Was used less

Bingo

[twilit ember]

nope i used it for gaming for like 10 months

[placid belfry]

Rookie numbers

My g203 is on its way out

[sinful cobalt]

just claim warranty if applicable

if not you’re pretty fucked

[placid belfry]

Been using it for 7 years

[twilit ember]

ill try

[placid belfry]

If u buy new mouse

Wireless.

Latency no issue

I could be wrong but I’ve seen good numbers

[formal sonnet]

As a new G502 X Lightspeed owner, is decent mouse, very nice. Would buy again.

[placid belfry]

https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/shop/p/g502-lightspeed-wireless-gaming-mouse.910-005565?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Paid-Search&utm_campaign=DEPT_FY26_Q3_USA_GA_B2C_Always-on-Gaming-Base-Plan_Google_CVR_na&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21250670109&gbraid=0AAAAADDQ2Oxy_SZdvDoXe7VCNloP-gkL-&gclid=CjwKCAiA1obMBhAbEiwAsUBbIlYX2eERBDDpPAH-RXynjV0Y37IrP-P62_-frT6GWQpxdFPveXb8tBoC-h4QAvD_BwE

[placid belfry]

Zis one above

[formal sonnet]

I've also charged mine only once since receiving it just over a month ago.

[placid belfry]

You said x one I posted doesn’t have x

[fathom mesa]

When adding cooling fans
Should the bigger fan on the side panel be the intake or the exhaust

[formal sonnet]

Get the X. Way better battery life. I think the non-x only gets ~60 hours of battery.

[placid belfry]

https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/shop/p/g502-x-wireless-lightforce.910-006178?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Paid-Search&utm_campaign=DEPT_FY26_Q3_USA_GA_B2C_Always-on-Gaming-Base-Plan_Google_CVR_na&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21250670109&gbraid=0AAAAADDQ2Oxy_SZdvDoXe7VCNloP-gkL-&gclid=CjwKCAiA1obMBhAbEiwAsUBbIlgxnSGCUKzK6AbfUV9XaQAeUz6g_h_fpq8WKaYhc_CSoZP1RNbnIxoC4rgQAvD_BwE

I can’t find latency info on website but I suppose as good as non xone ?

[twilit ember]

what mouse would you recommend like in the 1000-2000 Rupees budget (around 20-30 dollars)

[formal sonnet]

No idea. I've never used the non-X one. That said... I've also never really "noticed" the latency of quality wireless mice. It's only the cheap office ones that have felt "off" to me.

[tidal geyser]

my super light x has lasted me like a month or two at times

while my attackshark x3 more like 2 weeks

[sinful cobalt]

holy 100 gram range

[placid belfry]

Ye I’ll just assume it’s 1ms like the non-x variant is
And ye seeing the new stuff having such good latency I don’t recommend wired anymore
Wired ones also are such a pain to drag the coord and such

[fathom mesa]

/\ /\ /\

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/grim-reaper-initial-d-r32-rin-hojo-ore-gif-19956623

holy godzillas at 100g range

[placid belfry]

Honestly idk
Depends on your hand size and what you want to do with it
Like I’m using g203 but it’s small for my hands my main gave up the soul it was a Corsair
Saving up for the g502x now

[sinful cobalt]

get smth like an attack shark

do ur research first

[tidal geyser]

yea x3 is cheap and im using it over my g pro x superlight

lkike 30$ mouse vs 200$ (think its what i paid for it a few years back)

[placid belfry]

Do u have pc shop near u

Can go test them see for yourself

Not pc repair shop but like pc seller

In us I have microcenter near me

[tidal geyser]

tbf a lot of em are the same

[placid belfry]

Hand size is the deal breaker for me cuz I had big hand

Other than that I suppose

Then it differs in specifics

Like Kirashi said the 502x has longer battery life for 20$ difference that would be a smarter purchase

But they do differ
Weight matters and other stuff

https://www.lttlabs.com/products/mice/logitech-g502-hero-wired

[sweet narwhal]

not sure if this is the right channel but i turned on my monitor after not using it for a few days and there are ants in the screen. does anyone know how to get rid of them?

[tidal geyser]

ffs my package was delivered to my mailbox right as i got to school

[tidal geyser]

BURN IT WITH FIRE

[placid belfry]

Weight of mouse matters

Other than size

Everything else is whatevs in 2026

[tidal geyser]

im fine with both heavy and light mouses

[placid belfry]

Ask them to vacate your private domicile

[tidal geyser]

skill is what really matters

[placid belfry]

With that being said
Our sponsor for this comment is aimlabs

Helps me aim better so I can improve my k/d by 2%

[placid belfry]

I know ants don’t like peppermint essential oil

Put a drop on the frame and rub it around

They’ll run

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-unbelievable-surprised-at-computer-shocked-at-computer-gif-1790140920113201224

[sinful cobalt]

0+2% is still 0 btw

[placid belfry]

Wait are they dead on the screen or walking around

[twilit ember]

ill check out mouses

[sweet narwhal]

Walking around

[placid belfry]

Then you have hope with peppermint oil

It will cause them to walk away

If they were dead then you’d have to open it up and remove them which is a problem

[rigid fjord]

tbf, they're all replaceable if you have a soldering iron

[rigid fjord]

looks at his g502 hero with extra weights added to it

[cold skiff]

High spec gaming pc

[rigid fjord]

for the likes of 2019 sure, nowadays, meh

[cold skiff]

£650 anyone would think the ram used was £200

[rigid fjord]

wouldn't offer more than 500 for that build

[cold skiff]

I’d be lowballing £400

[placid belfry]

Ryzen 9 case closed high end confirmed no argument no low balling

[rigid fjord]

400 can get you a 3600 + 3060 build if you know what you're doing

[cold skiff]

This is also a good one but tbh, the price isn’t so bad. It just isn’t a gaming pc

[rigid fjord]

500-550 can easily get you a 5600 +3060/6700xt build

[cold skiff]

£45 for a 1920x these days

[placid belfry]

USB WiFi ultra fast

Ultra

[azure topaz]

wowza

[cold skiff]

If you wanted an old TR build though that’s not so bad

[rigid fjord]

that is cheap considering you can still expect to pay 200-300 for the mobo alone still

[azure topaz]

quite nice, those boards are expensive

[sinful cobalt]

holy heavy

[cold skiff]

Exactly. It’s like a £200 board

[rigid fjord]

150 ish grams

[rigid fjord]

the 1920x still goes for 100-150

[cold skiff]

Not sure it would game any better than a Ryzen 1400 though

[rigid fjord]

multicore wise it is

[cold skiff]

Oh wait this is the 1900 that’s £50

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/humbled-cat-gif-bie-gif-17493722235118145820

[rigid fjord]

i has extra weights i still want to put into it

[cold skiff]

Damn that’s an insane bump for the 1920. Still £350 for that build if you need the TR cores is good. Power wise it’s not worth over am5

[rigid fjord]

performance wise, other than multicore, it's not wortth it over zen3/4/5

[cold skiff]

Oh yeah. Like if you were video editing or dedicated stream pc, deffo worth the cheap extra pc you need

[mellow sonnet]

people still buy 1st gen ryzen?

just go intel atp

[cold skiff]

It’s threadripper

[bronze summit]

Looks like someone just got their ticks taken out and they chill now

[mellow sonnet]

xeon

[bronze summit]

Hey rauko

[rigid fjord]

sup

[cold skiff]

Threadripper is completely different kettle of fish. Like 1st gen is balls bad compared to the next gen’s but if you can get it cheap - still damn well worth its salt for multi core usage

[bronze summit]

Contemplating whether or not I should buy a 20$ desktop mic stand

Since my AT2020 is too low

[placid belfry]

Boom arm all the way

[cold skiff]

Yes get a stand or boom

[mellow sonnet]

waiting for the day intel crushes amd again

[rigid fjord]

i modified one of these for the mic i built @bronze summit

[mellow sonnet]

amd is already shitting themselves from the series 3 release

[rigid fjord]

from what i've seen of amd releases, that a negative

[rigid fjord]

you can swap out the mount for the the mic between both stand types

[mellow sonnet]

igpu

[rigid fjord]

only measured up against the 780m/880m not against the 8060s

[tidal geyser]

best mobile igpu amd has is rdna 3.5 no fp8

so no real fsr4

while intel is sitting there with MFG on their mobile stuff

[sinful cobalt]

amd loves backstabbing amongst themselves

[mellow sonnet]

amd wont hold the crown for longer

intel ruled for majority of time and they should continue

they invented x86 for crying out loud

[rigid fjord]

and amd, x64

[placid belfry]

Brand loyalty is a disease

[rigid fjord]

this is some UBM brainwashing bullshit

[mellow sonnet]

intel raised multiple generations

all of that just to get laughed at by a competing brand they sold a x86 license to

[rigid fjord]

intel had the same cpu using the same architecture for over 6 gens with minimal improvements per gen

[tidal geyser]

that now sells them x64 licenses

[rigid fjord]

if it wasn't for amd, you'd still be using a single cored cpu thinking it's good still

[abstract wigeon]

do we think the steam deck will get a discount when steam hardware drops?

[rigid fjord]

maybe, maybe not

[tidal geyser]

OG steam deck is no longer being made

[abstract wigeon]

want a steamdeck oled but maaan expensive

[tidal geyser]

used

[mellow sonnet]

didnt intel invent their own?

years after the amd one

[rigid fjord]

nope, they literally have to pay amd for it

[tidal geyser]

why would they pay amd for it then

[cold skiff]

Anti competition practices in the 90s ensured this

[rigid fjord]

no, intel's practices and being sued and losing to amd prevented this

[tidal geyser]

but yea intel stagnated HARD

[cold skiff]

Even VIA had the same tech as Intel. The problem is they couldn’t get people to make their CPU and then it became irrelevant when they could

[tidal geyser]

if amd did not step into the picture we would probs still be on 4 core cpus

[cold skiff]

Well during the 90s Intel ‘ruled’ due to many many bad practices

AMD did well to get where they did in the 90s

[rigid fjord]

you should read into the amd vs intel law suite

[cold skiff]

I mean in the 90s we had several manufacturers and potential CPU competitors to Intel

[rigid fjord]

still read it dude, it sets a precedence that hurts nvidia in a way to prevent them from trying to monopolize the gpu market

[cold skiff]

Will have to look some day

[rigid fjord]

and nvidia did try something similar to intel

[cold skiff]

I remember they sued each other and effectively nullified each other at one point

Was that the x86/64 debacle?

[rigid fjord]

nope, that is after this

[ebon marlin]

Someone brought a Rog Strix X570E board to our recycling center

Board looks to be fine physically

[mellow sonnet]

fried 100%

[ebon marlin]

Everything looks fine on the board physically

[cold skiff]

Could be bricked

[ebon marlin]

High chance i could snag this for 20-29€

[mellow sonnet]

just like people covering rust on cars they sell

[ebon marlin]

It's not difficult to rewrite bios + this has bios flashback as well

[rigid fjord]

and wasn't a case of nullfying each other but a settlement made by intel to amd that at the time, cost intel dearly

[cold skiff]

That’s good catto. It’s not even that dirty too

[rigid fjord]

check the crystal near the superI/O as well as vrms

[tidal geyser]

bet bad bios

[bold olive]

if I had the time I would loot lots of shit from the recycling center, fix them and be happy when it works fine, then not touch it 1 week after

[tidal geyser]

could be a bad VRM

[ebon marlin]

Vrms looked fine

I'll check more closer l8r

[tidal geyser]

yes look does not mean they are

[rigid fjord]

shit vrms on that specific mobo as it is

[tidal geyser]

wait you already took off the heatsink?

[ebon marlin]

No but i can see them from the side

[rigid fjord]

they may look physically fine, but it has shit vrms on it

[mellow sonnet]

my vrms handle 253 watts like its nothing

[ebon marlin]

Luckily this also has a code thing to show the error if something wrong

[cold skiff]

Surprised you don’t take a test bench to work

[placid belfry]

My x570 pro4 dropped the brain 4 months ago
I switched to am5
It can look fine without a brain

[cold skiff]

I’m going to look in the mirror now and let you know

[ebon marlin]

Bro dropped his brains

[placid belfry]

Pls keep me posted

[cold skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/big-nose-short-film-showcase-world-penguin-day-elephant-seal-grumpy-seal-gif-21248312

Yep still looking mighty fine

[placid belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-walt-my-honest-reaction-my-reaction-to-that-information-gif-26365367

[mellow sonnet]

turns out intel and amd rely on each other more than we think

[sour storm]

Forgot to send the few images i tookbyesterday of the new pc

[cold skiff]

Not more than we think. More than you think.

[placid belfry]

Top Kek

[cold skiff]

We already knew this information. Did you know they have information sharing and work together on instruction sets?

[mellow sonnet]

the only competiton we see is in the public space

[placid belfry]

First one looks nice
Second needs flash enabled

[tidal geyser]

amd took over the server space a while ago

[cold skiff]

It’s like AMD and Nvidia have employees go between each other all the time. You think they don’t know what each others shit stinks like?

[sour storm]

Yeaah. I kinda was busy ibstalling the thing when i took the images

[placid belfry]

All companies do
Even google and apple work together
Samsung and apple work together

[mellow sonnet]

lg and apple

because apple relies on lgs displays

https://tenor.com/view/two-people-laughing-on-table-laugh-laughing-lol-gif-3006610283817764608

the lcds in particular

[sour storm]

What game should i test the pc with?

[placid belfry]

My most dreaded part of any build is cable management

[rigid fjord]

between amd and intel also

[cold skiff]

Apple doesn’t design any of its hardware except the cpu die in phones iirc

[mellow sonnet]

minecraft with seus ptgi e12

[sour storm]

Yeah i gotta get some cable management things next week

[placid belfry]

It’s just tedious work mang

[sour storm]

??

[little fossil]

they recently made their own modem for iphones

[placid belfry]

Shaders

[cold skiff]

I don’t see how you can think it’s a revelation to us that these companies use each others stuff

[mellow sonnet]

one of greatest path traced shaders

[little fossil]

i think it started shipping in 22?

[cold skiff]

Dayumn. They’re branching out

Borm what cpu you using

[mellow sonnet]

14700k

[cold skiff]

lol

[mellow sonnet]

obfuckingviously

[little fossil]

holy toaster

[cold skiff]

When ya buy it

[mellow sonnet]

in 2024

[cold skiff]

Damn. That’s sad.

How much it cost?

[mellow sonnet]

450 euros

[sour storm]

Gonna be buying some more fans later... hopefully friend finds the monitor they were talking about soni can buy it off him

[cold skiff]

Fucking LOL

[mellow sonnet]

that was brand new

[placid belfry]

Bruh

[rigid fjord]

my vrm's are rated for 200A, which means it can go for anywhere between 200w to 2400w depending on how much voltage is put through them

[cold skiff]

You bought into a dead platform for more than a 7800x3d

[mellow sonnet]

those cost 350 now

is it really a dead platform if its still supported?

[little fossil]

anyway chat i used an AI clanker for the first time today and i'm quite angry at how decent of a job it did. now i can't say that they're completely useless.

[cold skiff]

Bro is the OG userbenchmark owner

[placid belfry]

Fans
I went down the rabbit hole
Look into arctic if you can’t afford nactua

[mellow sonnet]

i always use my clanker called copilot and its doing a decent job

[cold skiff]

Is it really a dead platform

Next he will say AMD has an army of influencers and we only buy AMD because they tell us to

[little fossil]

i would rather have barbed wire passed under my toenails than use copilot holy shit lmao

[placid belfry]

Copilot is decent for languages

[cold skiff]

I can do this, it might even get me excited

[sour storm]

The omes im lookingbat are the fractal design momentums, partly cause i likevthe ring lights and partly because it's a fractal design case

[placid belfry]

Other than that not so great

[mellow sonnet]

i mean it has a gpt5.1 option

[little fossil]

i was getting bored with my gym plan and i didn't feel like paying 70 bucks for the gym staff to get me a new one, so i had claude make me a new one and it's quite alright.

[little fossil]

yeah but i am not using openAI.

[mellow sonnet]

fuck openai though

[cold skiff]

Borm why did you buy a 14700k over a 7800x3d when the AMD is better and less expensive?

[mellow sonnet]

they will go bankrupt by 2027

[rigid fjord]

correction, look into arctic if you want more performance for less cost

[placid belfry]

Idk but check their noise rating is my only advice

[little fossil]

if i'm using clankers it's claude until anthropic goes public or mistral because it's european.

[sour storm]

Some nice light orange glow from the top andbthe back to show off the parts.... the thought of it making me drool

[mellow sonnet]

is it REALLY that better? those cpus barely have any fucking difference at higher resolutions

[sour storm]

I mean....the case is usibg lomentums and they are quiet

[placid belfry]

That’s self explanatory

[mellow sonnet]

and keep in mind i play at 4k

[sour storm]

Biggest noice comes from the psu if i turn thevfans high enough

[mellow sonnet]

with occasional dlss

[little fossil]

i strongly doubt that but i desperately hope it does.

[rigid fjord]

arctic is also quieter and doesn't need an extra filter to maintain it

[mellow sonnet]

havent you heard the news? they claim they will lose 14 billion this year alone

[placid belfry]

Than nactua ?

[mellow sonnet]

billion?? was it billion??

whatever they are close to bankrupcy

[rigid fjord]

psu fans being loud would mean the psu is working harder

[rigid fjord]

funnily enough, yes

[little fossil]

they have never made money. as long as the US government is unable to stop the microsoft-nvidia-oracle-openAI laundering scheme nothing will happen to them.

[placid belfry]

Aren’t nactua the quietest

[sour storm]

The one i hvae has a controllable fan speed knob

[cold skiff]

Yes it’s better. Benchmarks prove it

[mellow sonnet]

we will see

[rigid fjord]

nope

[placid belfry]

That’s funny indeed

[mellow sonnet]

the evil userbenchmark

[sour storm]

Eitherway for the fans i know momentums will work and they look dope as hell so im willing to pay for it

[mellow sonnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277357627671707739/1279943764630179880/caption.gif

[rigid fjord]

ah, the optional extra control on certain psu's, i believe my rm850x has this but i've not touched this as doing so makes it go from being auto to manual control on the psu which isn't needed

[sour storm]

I bought the rm750x ....can i turn the knob off and it does it automatically orr

[placid belfry]

I have rm750x so based on this I’ll turn off the manual so it goes to auto then

[sour storm]

Also noticed aweird thibg happen withvthe pc whenit goes to slewp modw

It turns on again automatically

Gotta look into that

[mellow sonnet]

ts is still solid

[sour storm]

Fiber

[rigid fjord]

yeah, it should go and automatically make the fan spin up when the psu is actually under load

[sour storm]

Rauko what do you think of the pc i built?

[mellow sonnet]

i have no reason to go x3d just for extra 10 or 20 fps

[sour storm]

Didnt realice the latch on an am5 would be so strong

[cold skiff]

You have no reason to buy into a dead platform with no real upgrade path yet you did

[placid belfry]

That makes sense idk why manual is ever needed then

[mellow sonnet]

am4 is more dead than lga1700

[cold skiff]

Manual was introduced for people not comfortable with silent modes

[mellow sonnet]

you know 1700 still supports ddr4 so it is valid these days

am4 makes less sense

[cold skiff]

AM4 new SKUs were released in 2025….

[rigid fjord]

some like to physically control the fan speed so that it's going at a set speed while not being loud/no ramp up sounds from the fans

[mellow sonnet]

so did intel

whats your point

[cold skiff]

Not on LGA1700

[rigid fjord]

lga1200 is dead, intel still be releasing some cpu's for it

[sour storm]

I gotta clean the apartment today, didnt have energy last evening after the pc building and my back was too sore

[mellow sonnet]

yes on 1700

[rigid fjord]

no, on 1200

[mellow sonnet]

on 1700

[placid belfry]

Any potential problems with that tho seeing fans should spin in correlation to what the demand is at

[cold skiff]

They planned a 1700 but didn’t release it

[mellow sonnet]

the core 5 120 was the last lga 1700 product

[cold skiff]

Because they were bankrupt

Remember that, Intel is bankrupt and using government loans to stay afloat

[mellow sonnet]

dude

[cold skiff]

They’re selling arrow lake at a loss too

[mellow sonnet]

intel was nowhere bankruptcy compared to what amd was back in fx times

[cold skiff]

The only reason Intel still exists is because of fabrication factories being made

AMD borrowed against their assets to stay a float which to be fair to them, risky but it worked

[mellow sonnet]

you sound like a redditor

[rigid fjord]

https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/core-i5-110.c4240 core i5 110, lga1200, released in 2025

[mellow sonnet]

"erm akchually amd is red and red is good"

[cold skiff]

Intel has no plan b. They’re literally tied to the US government to now fabricate. Their cpu division financially, is dead. That’s the honest truth. I have no brand loyalty whatsoever so ever

[mellow sonnet]

that was one of the weirdest releases

[cold skiff]

Panther lake looks like it could bring it back but again- for 2 years now the cpu division has made a massive loss

[mellow sonnet]

ok quit the yapping

[cold skiff]

Selling $500 CPUs for $300 is not sustainable

And it only happened once they got government loans

[rigid fjord]

none that i know of, just means the psu stays at a specific temp range no matter what load it takes

[cold skiff]

Grow up and take the Intel stick out ya ass. No company loves you.

[mellow sonnet]

every time i come in this server these conversations remind me why i prefer to not be active

redditor ahh behavior

[cold skiff]

If you don’t like the truth off ya fuck then.

[placid belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-gif-10397266617194121558

[mellow sonnet]

wouldnt it be better for your brain to just let people use what they want?

[waxen juniper]

.

[cold skiff]

I didn’t tell you what to use

I told you financially Intel was fucked and you got upset by it

So off ya fuck back to whatever hovel ya came from

[mellow sonnet]

im literally laughing my ass off at how you had to make an entire conversation over intels situation

[sour storm]

Tbh thaldy does act like an ass whenever i see them.

[rigid fjord]

it looks good from what i can see of it dude, and cable management is always a pain for most people, but good cable management pays off when it comes to diagnosing issues later on

[sour storm]

I tried my best with the cable management

[mellow sonnet]

i forward this opinion

[cold skiff]

I just don’t take shit. Sorry if it offends you.

[rigid fjord]

that's all you can do, otherwise you end up going all ocd on it

[cold skiff]

The guy comes in here saying Intel superior and then can’t accept that they’re a company afloat because of US government loans and gets upset by it.

[mellow sonnet]

i only said that i have a 14700k and you reacted with "sad"

[placid belfry]

You said a lot more than that

[cold skiff]

I said it’s sad you bought it in 2024 based on your intel is superior complex

[mellow sonnet]

didnt even ask if it stable or how is it going despite surviving the great intel issue thing

[rigid fjord]

10% from the us government doesn't keep it afloat tbh

[cold skiff]

Why would I ask if it’s stable? Not every cpu is the same

[cold skiff]

It gives big investor confidence that a government has backed it to then accrue other loans required

[mellow sonnet]

really tells me what kind of person you are

[cold skiff]

Being objective does offend people when they’re emotional I guess. I still don’t apologise for that.

[mellow sonnet]

ltt viewers am i right

[placid belfry]

Bruh

[cold skiff]

Fact over fiction. Anyways done with ya, it’s like talking to a teen saying 6 7 on repeat

[mellow sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/two-people-laughing-on-table-laugh-laughing-lol-gif-3006610283817764608

[rigid fjord]

wierd but before panther lake, it's the latest release as it's sep 2025, vs jul 2025 for the i5 120

[mellow sonnet]

i dont understand why isnt intel doing a desktop series 3

guess we gotta wait for nova lake later this year

[sour storm]

The way you talk is what makes me say you're an ass. Im aware intel isn't worth it but every time i see you in this chat you're messages come off as you having a stick up your ass.

[cold skiff]

I just speak directly. It’s on you if you’re offended not me.

You can also use the block function floof 👌

[sour storm]

I did but sadly discord still shows when you send a message. And cyriosity gets to me.

[rigid fjord]

they may do still, more like q3/q4 this year, we're still in q1 moving to q2 at the moment

[mellow sonnet]

next up on tech chat number one......... windows users get shit on👹