tech-chat-1

[tidal geyser]

#tech-chat-1 message

[mint umbra]

I havent noticed a difference personally

[craggy pagoda]

idk what that is honestly a lot of people mention that to me everytime but i just dont get it

[carmine yew]

Win11 has been fine since about a year after launch

[tidal geyser]

Stop lying it's litteraly faster

[grizzled frost]

research what it is before deciding on a GPU

[craggy pagoda]

i care about fps in games like sea of thieves valorant gta cod etc

[tidal geyser]

Actual benchmarks show it being faster

[carmine yew]

Not especially.
But it's also title dependant

[gritty panther]

i dont think my 9950x3d would even work with windows 10. doesnt have the drivers/schedulers for w10

[cerulean dawn]

he asked me to define what i thought would be worse and i said if its worse than w10

[carmine yew]

You don't need to worry that much

[craggy pagoda]

plz bro im worrying i cant help it

[cerulean dawn]

huh

[gritty panther]

yikes w11 is faster lol

[craggy pagoda]

its the gpu im gonna ahve a for a long time and im sick of low fps

[tidal geyser]

Like I said

[gritty panther]

25H2 is nice

[tired bear]

now lets see linux

[cerulean dawn]

i never said w11 is slower than w10

[carmine yew]

Do you worry about satellites falling on your head?

[craggy pagoda]

thats different

DUDE IM BEING SERIOUS 😭

[carmine yew]

Not really

[gritty panther]

im on insider preview 😄

[craggy pagoda]

satellite falling on my head wont give me fps

[tidal geyser]

You did

[grizzled frost]

it'll give you FPS, just Feet Per Second instead of Frames Per Second

[carmine yew]

Are you in the top 0.1% of players in those games

[cerulean dawn]

chill its 1 am i guess i just misread it

[gritty panther]

I honestly dont encounter the bugs that techyoutubers and tech journalists experience

[craggy pagoda]

why u all being sarcastic bruh

[tidal geyser]

Go to sleep

[craggy pagoda]

yes in valorant and sea of thieves

[carmine yew]

He was funny

[gritty panther]

every week there's a new article dunking on Windows lol

[carmine yew]

Prove it

[gritty panther]

Im in front of my computer all day. I dont encounter them at all

[tidal geyser]

That's the fun part about bugs

[craggy pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/@xsooonta

[tired bear]

ah yes, free beta tester for microslop

[craggy pagoda]

will u help me now please

[mint umbra]

feel like its popular to hate on windows these days

[gritty panther]

what's so complicated about windows anyway?

[craggy pagoda]

dude this is important to me u guys are all being sarcastic 😭

[gritty panther]

I click steam it launches my games. I click discord it launches

[grizzled frost]

what exactly are you worried about being different for "longevity" between the two cards?

[tidal geyser]

Fyi a lot of YouTubers also share the issue they find before posting a video or at least try

[gritty panther]

what's there to complain about? it works

[mint umbra]

what makes windows so different now from like 10 years ago

[gritty panther]

maybe because im just a filthy gamer that's why I dont get as affected as much

[tidal geyser]

Ai

[tired bear]

LTSC just works, preview is getting experimental updates that may break at any time

[craggy pagoda]

im worried about, for the future of gaming and ai and etc. whats gonna maintain me the highest amount of fps for the next, lets say, 6-7 years

[gritty panther]

I honestly don't get it lol

[mint umbra]

cant you just remove it

[craggy pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

[carmine yew]

5090 and 9850x3d

[mint umbra]

like you dont have to use the ai

[tidal geyser]

You mean recode it?

[craggy pagoda]

no out of my budget, i gave u 2 OPTIONS DUDE U TWEAKING ME OUT

[mint umbra]

like just dont use the ai

[gritty panther]

Ive never had my windows break on me lol I've been bulding beef computers since the mid 2000's

[tidal geyser]

Microsoft boasts that like 30% of windows code is now written by ai

[grizzled frost]

impossible to make any predictions about the "future of gaming", all we can talk about is right now

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smooth-brain-silly-cute-gif-12951836389394006733

[craggy pagoda]

okay right now what do u recommend genuienly

[tired bear]

linux!!

[mint umbra]

I have never used the ai shit on windows

[grizzled frost]

given you seemingly only care about FPS, probably the one with more FPS

[mint umbra]

like hardly even noticed windows has ai

[carmine yew]

You considered having some nice, calming herbal tea?

[mint umbra]

cuz I never use it

[drowsy isle]

Same I never crash, I don’t update often either

[grizzled frost]

Maybe a nice cup of Jasmine Tea

[craggy pagoda]

i dont drink tea thats gay

[grizzled frost]

Highly recommend

[craggy pagoda]

only coffee

[grizzled frost]

I agree, Tea is happy

[frigid blade]

Drink some water

[gritty panther]

people are weird tbh but I get it. they need to get clicks/views. and gullible people take what they read on the internet to heart. "MUST BE TRUE SOME YOUTUBER SAID WINDOWS IS HORRIBLE" lel

[craggy pagoda]

im doomed

[mint umbra]

I just drink water

[frigid blade]

Actually you need some milk

[mint umbra]

I havent drank tea in years

[grizzled frost]

You should try it, it's great for the body and mind

[craggy pagoda]

how we going from discusisng my gpus to talking about tea wth is this dude

[frigid blade]

No

[grizzled frost]

You're the one that seemed keen on discussing tea

[craggy pagoda]

okay let me ask another questions, if i wanna stream and play games, which one is better

[frigid blade]

Tea

[craggy pagoda]

😂

[grizzled frost]

You already answered this question yourself with your first message

[carmine yew]

You're anxious as fuck for no good reason. I'm suggesting a way to fuckin relax

[drowsy isle]

They like to shit on windows because it’s the default os or the one everyone uses and since they’re so different and quirky they feel special and want to tell everyone how special they are.

[frigid blade]

Actually maybe coffee if you stream long

[craggy pagoda]

sorry ill calm down

[frigid blade]

It will help you stay up longer

[craggy pagoda]

ill make tea rn if u help me i promise ill send a pic in chat for proof

[grizzled frost]

guys so i know rx9070 than rtx5070 is better for gaming performace fps wise
the first part of the first message you sent that started this discussion answers your question

[mint umbra]

linux users are same ppl who shit on apple phones

[gritty panther]

like SteamOS/linux. everyone and their momma is saying the Deck OLED would shit on my ROG ally. I bought the deck OLED and I honestly dont get it. it's collecting dust. I like my ROG Ally/Windows a lot more even in handheld form.

[craggy pagoda]

for streaming and gaming at the same time whats better

[mint umbra]

jsut feels like linux users try to hard to get ppl to switch

[grizzled frost]

guys so i know rx9070 than rtx5070 is better for gaming performace fps wise
the first part of the first message you sent that started this discussion answers your question
asked and answered

[tired bear]

if by herbs you mean cannabis you got me

[mint umbra]

just get a 5090

[frigid blade]

Do you play a lot of ray tracing games? If not I’d probably get the 9070

[mint umbra]

ez

[craggy pagoda]

so theres no advantages to the rrtx 5070 in that regard?

[frigid blade]

Pretty sure it only excels better in games with ray tracing

I’d just go with the one you can find cheaper

[mint umbra]

been thinking about selling my 7900xtx for like a 5070 or something cuz my 7900xtx just gets so hot

[gritty panther]

just keep xtx imo

[tired bear]

its simple
do you do cuda workloads or only gaming
if cuda then go with nvidia
if no then amd

[gritty panther]

it's still a beast.

[mint umbra]

Wish I could use dlss tho

[craggy pagoda]

idk what cuda workloads are therefore i assume not, just for gaming and streaming simultaionusly

[carmine yew]

Nvidia has better software tech.

But for raw fps? I think the 9070 is slightly faster

[grizzled frost]

you're gonna downgrade because your GPU "runs hotter", i have a solution, stop looking at the tmep of you rGPU

[mint umbra]

feel like ppl talk about how great the dlss trasformer model or whatever is

[craggy pagoda]

okay

thank you guys fr

[grizzled frost]

DLSS 4.5 is beautiful

[frigid blade]

Literally atp just go with the one you find cheaper

[mint umbra]

and I never will get to try it

[carmine yew]

Dlss looks awesome

[tired bear]

cuda is compute, for example photoshop, blender, premiere pro

[mint umbra]

with a xtx

[gritty panther]

dlss 4.5 is very good but if it was me id just ride out the bs with the xtx and wait for next gen

[frigid blade]

Would 4.5 change your mind to choose the 5070 if it was the same exact price?

[carmine yew]

This

[mint umbra]

if there is a next gen nvda might just go full on ai

didnt they cancel the super gpus

[grizzled frost]

tf you mean "if there is a next gen"

[carmine yew]

What does that even mean

[mint umbra]

they cancelled the super gpus cuz of ai

from what ive read

[grizzled frost]

how does one even go "full AI", you still need a native rendered frame to base the AI frames on

[gritty panther]

mostly rampocalypse

anything with RAM is very expensive right now

[frigid blade]

I think they mean no more consumer targeted cards, instead for AI training and whatnot

[mint umbra]

so whats stopping them of just abandoning consumer gpus

[tired bear]

get him, he has ram

[frigid blade]

Only 96GB

[gritty panther]

#criesin96gbddr5

[mint umbra]

Just feel like thats the trend nvda is on

[gritty panther]

$269.99 10 months ago. ya'll shouldve bought it too back then

[mint umbra]

where they will abandon consumer gpus

[grizzled frost]

10-20% of their revenue isn't nothing mate

[frigid blade]

You won’t believe what price I got my 2 2x48 kits for total a year ago

[gritty panther]

$100!

I know you

[tired bear]

i am also ram connoisseur

[frigid blade]

All 4 dimms for $2XX

[mint umbra]

they will just appease gamers with gforce now

[gritty panther]

ohh different guy nvm but still amazing deal lol

[frigid blade]

Yah I was so hyped, it was an eBay auction

[gritty panther]

even my little server has 64gb 3200. it was very cheap when I bought it

I heard it's more expensive than gold now.

[frigid blade]

Maybe it’s weight ya

[gritty panther]

https://tenor.com/view/rich-king-crown-money-cash-gif-17571826

[grizzled frost]

16gb ddr4 ecc is about 75-100usd a dimm

[tired bear]

if we talking about ddr4 i have about 1tb around

[carmine yew]

You're just making up shit to be anxious about

[frigid blade]

Crazy shit

[grizzled frost]

one of these days i'm gonna rob you of your ram

[gritty panther]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-goldman-gold-man-india-gold-man-india-gold-gif-3122376008029050460

[mint umbra]

and even if they still do consumer stuff just dont think will see same innovations as previous years since they aonly focuing on ai

will prob be minor uplift

[gritty panther]

totally bro. Im just making it up

[grizzled frost]

you mean like the uplift from the 4090 to the 5090?

[tired bear]

go on

[mint umbra]

and still have 16gb of ram on 5080 cards

[carmine yew]

If RAM stays bonkers expensive?

The 6000 series will cost more.

That's the entire story.

[frigid blade]

My entire Facebook marketplace for you is electronics, mostly ram, and the random scattered Dodge Chargers

[gritty panther]

not my problem. RAM was cheap 10 months ago

good luck losers

[mint umbra]

im talking about like the 60/70/80s most ppl cant afford a 2000 dollar cards

[frigid blade]

I can’t believe the 4090 still sells for like $2.4k used

[gritty panther]

it's annoying and I have a 4090

Im not happy about it. just shows the state of PC gaming. it's beyond fkd

[tired bear]

purely due to 48gb mods

[frigid blade]

I’m thinking about selling and waiting for a later gen

[gritty panther]

I cant play games with money so im keeping my 4090 lol

[grizzled frost]

19.6% uplift from the 4080 to 5080, 21.3% uplift from 4070 to 5070

[carmine yew]

It's impressive how you don't let reality get in the way of your opinions lol

[grizzled frost]

(in 4k ultra across a 16 game suite from TomsHardware)

[gritty panther]

Im honestly just making you mad. I dont even remember why you're so mad

[grizzled frost]

sorry 21.3 i total flubbed the key press in my calculator

[gritty panther]

I said everything with RAM is expensive and you got mad about it

[carmine yew]

.... mad? Lol

[gritty panther]

kinda weird but I get it.

[grizzled frost]

TKitch has been quite calm this entire time

[mint umbra]

previous gens had higher uplift

[rocky shuttle]

not really, just have the ai generate images and ai upscale those images and add more ai frames in between and...

[gritty panther]

not the craziest take.

[mint umbra]

like 2080- 3080

[frigid blade]

Guys do I resell

[grizzled frost]

Almost like we're hitting the limits of how small the process node can be, who would have thought!

[gritty panther]

I just said everything with RAM is expensive. everyone and their momma knows that but he's attacking me for some reason

[livid escarp]

No

[grizzled frost]

the reduction in uplift has very little to do with AI, and everything to do with Silicon limitations

[frigid blade]

It’s been listed for many days now

[topaz copper]

I mean easy money

[rocky shuttle]

well, you can try, but yk, thats probably a scam

youre not the only one who thought about reselling

[frigid blade]

I’m gonna try cuz it’s so close, it’s a rich neighborhood so maybe they just don’t care

[rocky shuttle]

indication of it being a scam, a real one would sell quickly from what i've seen

[rocky shuttle]

def only if you can see it working before buying

[livid escarp]

Either that or the seller just isn't responding

I've had so many just leave me on read for no reason

[mint umbra]

and were greedy with the amount of vram

[frigid blade]

Waiting for the best offer

[mint umbra]

5080 should have had 24gb of vram

[tired bear]

do i ?

[gritty panther]

then the AI bros would've targetted it

[livid escarp]

If it's a good enough deal I usually do asking price, no reason in trying to get a better deal

[rocky shuttle]

their acc might have been banned, but its not likely on FB sadly

[mint umbra]

thats dumb excuse

[frigid blade]

That seems cheap

[tired bear]

it is

[gritty panther]

it'll be $2500+ like the 4090 just because of the VRAM

[mint umbra]

doubtful

[grizzled frost]

you want it to be even more expensive than it already is?

most 4k games don't even fully utilize that 16gb of vram

[mint umbra]

for now

mate the 7900xtx was 1000 usd with 24gb

[tired bear]

i rarely utilise more than 8gb on my 9070xt

[gritty panther]

these cards are useless for AI

[mint umbra]

nvda is greedy

[grizzled frost]

with GDDR6, vs GDDR7 for the 5080

[tired bear]

good.

[grizzled frost]

that's like comparing ddr4 and ddr5 prices

[gritty panther]

anything AMD tbh

[tired bear]

you can do it on pengu 🐧

[gritty panther]

that's actually a good thing. AI bros don't want it

[mint umbra]

then why amd keep pushing ai crap on the amd driver app

[tired bear]

exactly

[gritty panther]

everyone and their momma is pushing AI crap on everything.

[tired bear]

to show how bad it is so people wont buy it for ai

[grizzled frost]

they get paid for advertising that shit, that's why they do it

[mint umbra]

amd pushing ai crap

[grizzled frost]

idk how hard that is to understand

[azure topaz]

yeah they also push good software in the same installer so

[mint umbra]

half that shit i heard dont even work on amd

[gritty panther]

brb time to play

[azure topaz]

cancels out

[tired bear]

by who
blackrock?

[azure topaz]

camo studio is actually amazing software and the fact that its in the driver installer now is funny

ive been using it for 4 years

[grizzled frost]

Amuse, LM Studio, ComfyUI, PyTorch, Ollama, VSCode, and Python

[grizzled frost]

it all works on AMD

[mint umbra]

pretty sure stuff like py torch and comfyui dont even work on amd when I looked into a while ago

cuz it doesnt have cuda

[tired bear]

i guarantee python isnt paying lol

[azure topaz]

look at floppa just crunching away

[mint umbra]

dont most ai apps need cuda

[grizzled frost]

Python asked nicely, and we love them for that

[frigid blade]

Lmao what the fuck how is 64gb sodimm selling for $400-500

[tired bear]

it works, there exists a translation layer

[frigid blade]

Are people really that desperate they’re driving sodimm prices up to use with the adapters?

[tired bear]

https://www.amd.com/en/products/software/rocm.html

[grizzled frost]

honestly not that far off from standard SODIMM pricing

[mint umbra]

what like that ZLUDA shit

[grizzled frost]

Benefit from CUDA, absolutely, require CUDA, not always

[mint umbra]

forget if thats the name or not

[tired bear]

zluda and rocm

[mint umbra]

if your getting into ai your better off just buying nvda gpu

[tired bear]

both do the same but are implemented diffrently

[mint umbra]

and dont only new amd gpus have the ai hardwear for alot of this ai stuff

like how fsr4 isnt offically supported like anything before 9000

[tired bear]

dont think about it too much

it isnt good for you

[mint umbra]

cuz they said fsr4 requires ai hardwear in the 9000 series gpus

[tired bear]

its purely software lock

[mint umbra]

"AMD FSR 4 is not officially supported on the Radeon RX 7000 series , primarily because
it requires FP8 (8-bit floating point) hardware acceleration to run efficiently"

[drowsy isle]

And 4080/super still outsold it, but that’s going off steam hardware surveys which aren’t accurate.

[tired bear]

"to run efficiently" aka it can run on others but it wont be fast so we software locked it away

[mint umbra]

what does popularity have to do with anything

amd has had an uphill battle cuz of previous gens driver issues

[drowsy isle]

Just saying nvidia can get away with it so they’re still going to sell a 16gb card regardless

[mint umbra]

so yeah no crap

amd could make best gpu in the world and still would sell less than nvda

cuz many ppl jsut refuse to buy anything that isnt nvda

[odd marsh]

damn right

[grizzled frost]

that is such a non-issue, NVIDIA has had far more recent driver issues

[mint umbra]

still has a stigma against them from those years

[odd marsh]

i am convinced it was vibe coded for a bit

[grizzled frost]

"a bit" you mean several straight months?

[drowsy isle]

It’d take a few generations of having better performance, special features that nvidia doesn’t offer, and most importantly better marketing.

[odd marsh]

tomato tomatoe

[limber nacelle]

@tired bear oh yeah update

they admitted it was ai lol

forgot to tag u

[tired bear]

lmao

cant bullshit a bullshitter

[solar moat]

i call bullshit

[cosmic stratus]

Finnally buying the other half of my ram

[solar moat]

RIP mixing ram

[cosmic stratus]

They're the same...

[solar moat]

still mixing

[cosmic stratus]

Both kits have a black and grey side..

[cosmic stratus]

Yep. Cl18 and cl16 memory

[solar moat]

thats dose nto realy matter

[cosmic stratus]

I wasnt paying 162 fucking dollars for 2666mhz version sooo

Idk why they were selling it for that much

[solar moat]

hope there same IC

[ivory mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/jotaro-kujo-jotaro-sad-depressed-anime-jojo-gif-15571975768040966474

[cosmic stratus]

Oh same chip manufacturer

[solar moat]

and same revison

like s8c and s8b are nothing alike

[cosmic stratus]

I win the lottery trust.

[primal timber]

e

[cosmic stratus]

[solar moat]

2.71828...

[primal timber]

Yo everyone! Just joined here because ZTT is kinda mid lol.

[primal timber]

Crazy reference.

[cosmic stratus]

I used to be there. Moderation sucked tho so now im only in here

[ivory mountain]

youre a ZTT spy

nobody joins and says that other than ZTT spies

[cosmic stratus]

That was almost 2yrs ago I think

[primal timber]

No I'm not.
-# maybe

What is this green role I couldn't find any role info channel.

[cosmic stratus]

[solar moat]

you get it after some amount of time

[cosmic stratus]

I got it from forums

Dont ask me how that works

[valid garden]

I present

whenever this sends

the thinkpad of chromebooks

I did some part swapping and plastic cutting

but it works

[primal timber]

Oh it's a yap role?

Or what I'm confused...

[grizzled frost]

You have to link your LTT forums acount

[primal timber]

Aaa oke.

Too much effort for a role.

But I don't wanna stay a filthy white role...

Tough situation.

[cosmic stratus]

Repurposed amd wrath prism cooling fan

[primal timber]

Laziness or stinkiness...

Both sound good.

[cosmic stratus]

Idk. Buy floatplane or boost server ig

[grizzled frost]

is that a PCI slot?

[primal timber]

Too broke for both.😔

[cosmic stratus]

[cosmic stratus]

Indeed.

[grizzled frost]

even i'm not willing to run hardware that old

[cosmic stratus]

Useless slot among some pcie gen 3

Because dell.

[grizzled frost]

oh so not that old

[cosmic stratus]

2017 kind of old yea

[grizzled frost]

i have a PCIe Gen3 + DDR3 server in deployment as my main NAS

[cosmic stratus]

[primal timber]

I have i7-3770 igpu 2x4gb ddr3, and some uhh some HDD idk what it is, powerful enough tho right? Gets me whopping 50 fps if im lucky in roblox 1080p lowest settings!

[cosmic stratus]

Interesting. This dell precision will be reposed for the same thing I just gotta go pick up a xeon with 24 cores and my friends old rx 5600 xt

[grizzled frost]

dual 2697v4's, 8x64gb DDR3, 3 4tb HDD's, and a 246gb SATA SSD

oh and a 1070

[cosmic stratus]

Also some more ddr4 udimm memory

[primal timber]

Rich.

[grizzled frost]

the 1070 i stole from my parents PC

the rest was quite cheap, i bought it all before the ram and storage apocalypse

[primal timber]

That RAM probably costs like a house.

[cosmic stratus]

This what the xeon rig looked like before I jumped to am4

[primal timber]

In like uhh Alabama or sum...

[cosmic stratus]

4.3ghz 1680v3

Rx 6800 and vega 56

[grizzled frost]

271.93usd pre tax

[primal timber]

Actually looks better than current.😭

[primal timber]

271 thousand? That's cheap, what?

Lucky bought on early stages of the shortage...

[cosmic stratus]

No this is Current:

[grizzled frost]

my server in more or less it's final form (add in a 1070)

[primal timber]

Get that 240/280mm AIO outta my face, ew.

[cosmic stratus]

Only temporary. Im gonna get a 360mm and a 5900XT

[primal timber]

So rich behaviour.

[cosmic stratus]

It came from my dell precision so...

[grizzled frost]

that chunky 4u is the main NAS

[ivory mountain]

this is the lowest effort troll ive seen in a while

[cosmic stratus]

The power of after pay and 40 dollars a week lmfaoo

[primal timber]

AIO from a Dell Precision?

[cosmic stratus]

Im not employed yet.

[primal timber]

Idk "rich" is like an inside joke in ZTT so...

[topaz copper]

I want a HL15

[solid quail]

Holy shit is this 2011-3?

[cosmic stratus]

No its a cooler master aio I installed in my xeon rig then was moved to my am4 rig

[grizzled frost]

LGA 2011, not LGA2011-3

[solid quail]

Awwwh. Still cool though!

[primal timber]

Understood.

[grizzled frost]

bloody ancient, but works well enough for me

[solid quail]

2697v2?

[grizzled frost]

e5-2690 0

oh yeah i lied about the CPUs, the 2697v4's are in my Dell servers

[cosmic stratus]

The glow up is ok for now

[cosmic stratus]

What's it used for again?

[primal timber]

Where the hell did the tubes go before, tf?

[cosmic stratus]

Stuffed next to the gpu.

[grizzled frost]

Main NAS

[primal timber]

Ooh now I got it.

[grizzled frost]

my two main servers are gonna switch though

[cosmic stratus]

Ah ok. Thats neat as hell

[primal timber]

Yeah that's a nice glow up.

[grizzled frost]

rn the R630 is my compute node, and my Custom 4u is my NAS, but i got a JBOD so it'll be R630 NAS, Custom 4u Compute Node

[cosmic stratus]

My old pc is only gonna be used for a minecraft server and for storage

I need to figure out the best core count for my use case tho

And to change that psu since its degraded now

Cant even handle a 600/685watt load anymore.

[primal timber]

Thermaltake Smart 430w should be fine. Or might as well use a C4 for a PSU.

[cosmic stratus]

Hell no.

The dell precision only takes server level components and that psu is hotswap with a proprietary interface

[primal timber]

It's only F tier. F stands for "fucking awesome" trust.

[cosmic stratus]

Here's what it looks like

[primal timber]

Ah the proprietary, love it.

[cosmic stratus]

That connector plugs into a break out board with 8 pin for gpu, one 24 pin for mobo and a 2 10 pin cpu. One of which I used for more gpu power

[cosmic stratus]

This one comes with benefits atleast

B-A tier stuff since its meant for workstations and its hotswap

[primal timber]

Hotswap for a PSU sounds VERY useful.

Maybe it is actually since it's for servers...

I don't think they swap PSUS that often tho lol.

Maybe I'm wrong idk.

[cosmic stratus]

When it does happen u do need to fix it fast so

[primal timber]

Fair enough.

[solid quail]

Today I learned that Intel made a 48 core x86 CPU in 2009

[left trellis]

For Corsair DDR4, is 5.33 CJR or DJR?

[rigid fjord]

when tuned, yes it can make it use more power, but at the same time you can sett how much it will draw, you can use pbo to even reduce the power draw

[left trellis]

wth happened 😭 5070 tis are quadrupdle digits now

[foggy marsh]

How much battery % drain is normal for a laptop after 12h sleep (not hibernation)

[left trellis]

Not specific enough twin 💔

[junior merlin]

GPU shortage

[wheat torrent]

Interesting

[grizzled frost]

charge yo phone

[glossy veldt]

it seems its time to go back to xeon builds

with ecc ram

[junior merlin]

That, or sell a kidney

[topaz copper]

For Battery it depends on the System
My Macbook Pro isnt to bad even as a older M1 Pro Build but Tahoe is definitely worse than Sequoia so will likely go back to sequioa at some point

Tahoe is more of a bear on battery

[topaz copper]

Unless DDr3 your not gonna get Stupid cheap ram

[junior merlin]

Even DDR3 is expensive now

Compared to last month

[glossy veldt]

what's wrong with this one

its slow yeah but ram is ram

[grizzled frost]

ECC UDIMM bad, ECC RDIMM/LRDIMM is what you want

[topaz copper]

Toss 512GB or 1TB of DDR3 and at least you got a good mount of ram and only really loosing speed

[grizzled frost]

agree

[glossy veldt]

there's got to be a catch with these stupid cheap dimms

but I'm not buying ddr4

im going ddr3

[grizzled frost]

The catch is they're on bid, and will go up i n price before they sell

the price you see is not the price you'd pay to actually buy them

[glossy veldt]

oh you're right

[topaz copper]

Funny thing is
On my tech project list for this year is

1. Move all Services that are on seperate Mini PCS to 1 Server
2. Learn NeoVim
3. Switch Fulltime to Hyprland on Deskop

Explore Migration to TruNas for ZFS - I can likely Migrate my Zpool

[glossy veldt]

i do wanna build a server with a stupid amount of ram for the lols of it

[grizzled frost]

literally my philosophy for buying so much DDR3

[topaz copper]

DDR3 ECC is also old enough now that I dont really trust its ECC traits anymore

[grizzled frost]

what

[glossy veldt]

ecc is ecc

[grizzled frost]

how does age in any way shape or form affect it's "ECC traits"

[junior merlin]

Except the problem is CPU support and IPC. DDR3 ended RIGHT before we got the insane jumps from Ryzen and the 9900k.

[glossy veldt]

i think some xeons still perform nicely

ddr3 i mean

[topaz copper]

Memeory has a shelf life

[grizzled frost]

on the order of 20-30 years, yeah

longer if it sits around unused

[topaz copper]

If you want just alot of cores for a storage server it doesnt matter

[grizzled frost]

there's not a lot of cheap high core CPUs for DDR3

[topaz copper]

Single Core Speeed is my Epycs hold back

[grizzled frost]

get a frequency optimized EPYC then

[glossy veldt]

the archaic server i have predates 16gb ddr3 dimms and the best cpu it supports is a xeon x5675

[topaz copper]

one day i'll go ThreadRipper

[junior merlin]

RAM will not expire from sitting on a shelf until the system that requires it is so antiquated that you cannot even connect it to the internet.

[grizzled frost]

Single core only 10% behind the 7800x3d (while also having 64 cores)

[junior merlin]

I miss HEDT chips.

[grizzled frost]

ignore the fact it costs a kidney though

[topaz copper]

Ye I have a Ebay Epyc

7302p

[grizzled frost]

not just a kidney, but your entire life actually

[junior merlin]

The problem is I don't NEED more than 16 cores right now. I need the expansion options, and the single thread.

[topaz copper]

I went Epyc for the lanes

[grizzled frost]

Half the single core performance of the 7800x3d, and a bit less multicore performance

[topaz copper]

I dont really need more Single Core just would be nice

[junior merlin]

I run a 3080, so give me all the single core pls

[grizzled frost]

9850x3d time!

[topaz copper]

This isnt my gaming PC

[glossy veldt]

i might create the first xeon 5600 system with an rtx a2000

[grizzled frost]

what do you need all those lanes for

[junior merlin]

Me?

[topaz copper]

Me?

[grizzled frost]

Yes /s

Iownyrface

[junior merlin]

Ok I'll sit out then

[glossy veldt]

i thought their username was lownyr face then read twice

[grizzled frost]

I own your face, but shortened due to character limits is my guess

[topaz copper]

Nics
U.2 SSDs
GPU
HBA
Eventual 25GB NICS
and second gpu
or More u.3 Drives

[grizzled frost]

all off the above at the same time?

[junior merlin]

Just run a server then

[topaz copper]

Ye I have 128 PCI Lanes

[grizzled frost]

NICs that slow don't need much PCIe

you can get away with 1 lane of gen 4 with a 10g card

[topaz copper]

It is?

[junior merlin]

Ok then

I don't see the confusion here

[grizzled frost]

1 lane of Gen4 is good enough for 25g even

[topaz copper]

Where is the confusion I said I wanted more ST

You assumed Desktiop

But its Mainly for HQPlayer Embeddded

[grizzled frost]

7F52 time!

[topaz copper]

Goal was to go all u.2/ u.3 SSDS this year and ditch spinning Rust but prices are to high

[grizzled frost]

What's the benefit of U.2 over consumer drives for you?

[junior merlin]

Just buy a server from him

Then you can have AI compute, too

[grizzled frost]

he doesn't sell single servers direct to consumers

you'd need to go through a SI like SuperMicro

[topaz copper]

Normally Secondary Pricing
and Capacity
Dell 16TB or 30TB Drives last year were around 1K

[grizzled frost]

7F52 for reference

[grizzled frost]

You could get those same capacities for less using consumer drives

[topaz copper]

2 of those in a minor would have covered my needs
and laster on added a second Vdev

[junior merlin]

For SSD???

[grizzled frost]

I mean not the 30tb, but i find it really hard to believe there were 30tb U.2 for 1kusd

[topaz copper]

Write Endurance
Heat Resistance

Ive had alot of NVME Die

[grizzled frost]

You can get 16TB under 1kusd though

[livid perch]

helo

[grizzled frost]

What are you using where you are putting them through enough load to die?

[junior merlin]

Not in a consumer SSD

[delicate geode]

Yo I have a silly question my parents need new pc theirs is like a decades old prebuilt and can’t get windows 11 is it reasonable to just build them a cheap one buying a bundle at microcenter and the rest of the parts there ofc? All the prebuilt home pcs im looking at are like $600-700

[livid perch]

is there like an alternative to memreduct cuz that shi has malware in it

[grizzled frost]

4x4TB was my suggestion

[grizzled frost]

No, cause that's not how memory usage works

[junior merlin]

Just get a used Dell

[livid perch]

welp 12 gigs of ram usage on idle

is that normal?

[delicate geode]

Not gonna cheap out on a used PC tbh. Just want longevity

[grizzled frost]

have less apps on startup

[junior merlin]

That is longevity

[livid perch]

i have 2

[grizzled frost]

ya sure?

[livid perch]

this is all the enabled ones

[grizzled frost]

So out of all the apps listed in Task Manager, only two are listed as "enabled"

[livid perch]

and system is using 12 gigs of ram on idle

[delicate geode]

A used pc

Is not longevity

[grizzled frost]

i blame TranslucentTB, shitty ass app

[delicate geode]

That’s quite the opposite no?

[livid perch]

hmmm

ill uninstall it

[topaz copper]

There was a period where they were cheap on Ebay but your right 30TB are normally like 2.5K and way more now

[grizzled frost]

Just disable it and restart your PC

[livid perch]

still

[grizzled frost]

Also show the full list of apps in the startup menu

[livid perch]

at around 10-12 on idle

[topaz copper]

One cheap option used to be get a wack of 60$ 2TB u.2 and ake a big Zpool

[junior merlin]

Not really? I mean, a 9th gen core i7 that's used as an office PC will last another decade.

[ivory mountain]

omg i didnt know this was coming out

[grizzled frost]

how much do you have?

[livid perch]

u can list from enabled to disabled those are the only enabled ones

[livid perch]

32 gigs of ddr5

[grizzled frost]

i don't see what the problem is

are you running out of ram at any point?

[livid perch]

idk

i didnt check while gaming

[grizzled frost]

Then it's probably not happening, you'd almost certainly notice

[livid perch]

js trynna figure out of 10 gigs on idle is normal

[grizzled frost]

I'm at 19.2 while "idle"

"idle" can mean so many things that almost any amount is normal

[livid perch]

how much ram u gott gang

[grizzled frost]

96gb

[livid perch]

figures

[topaz copper]

64

[livid perch]

ddr4?

[grizzled frost]

DDR5

[topaz copper]

5

[livid perch]

yeah yall rich

[ivory mountain]

idle doesnt really matter, same reason your browser can claim its using 60% of your gpu when nothing else is open

[grizzled frost]

I bought it before the ram prices shot to high heaven

[livid perch]

i wanna double the ram on my laptop too but CAS latency would lit almost double

[topaz copper]

Was 250 for 64gb at the time

[ivory mountain]

same i got 64gb for 225

[grizzled frost]

I got 2x48 for 330usd

[livid perch]

GANG 2x32 6400 sodimm was lit 160 bucks

it is 622 dollars rn

I was planning to upgrade my ram after buying the laptop i bought the laptop but the ram almost costs half as much as the laptop now

[junior merlin]

GPUs are next

[livid perch]

Also i want to get a 2tb ssd

[grizzled frost]

Last price available for my kit was 1506usd

[livid perch]

any good reccomendations

[junior merlin]

Calling it now, we're going back to GPU apocalypse

[grizzled frost]

it's entirely unavailable now tho

[topaz copper]

Wherever you can afford for a SSD

[grizzled frost]

Sky is blue and the grass is green type of claim

[topaz copper]

Pricing is high

[grizzled frost]

cheapest TLC drive you can find

[livid perch]

will it be good enough for gaming

i dont wanna wait 5 mins while unzipping a "game"

[grizzled frost]

yes...

[grizzled frost]

That's more dependent on your CPU than your storage

[topaz copper]

Unzipping is CPU bound

[livid perch]

oh wait

true mb

welp what about this?

[empty quartz]

Meh

[grizzled frost]

TLC, full send!

[livid perch]

welp reccomend me one but idk what gen my ssd is

[empty quartz]

Personally i would go hdd with an ssd as a cache, but its a bitch to setup depending on your os

[livid perch]

i got 2 slots ik the one i have allocated is the newer one

and the other one is an older one

[livid perch]

i have a laptop gang

Only thing i can basically upgrade is ram and storage

[empty quartz]

Do you have usb c

[livid perch]

i got 1tb of storage but i want a lil bit more

[livid perch]

yes but I also want to carry my laptop around and I do carry it around a lot

[empty quartz]

I was just gonna say external ssd

[livid perch]

i figured

[empty quartz]

But you have to carry around a cable and ssd

[livid perch]

exactly

ill js get this

gen 4

my allocated one is gen 5

[empty quartz]

No

[livid perch]

and the one that isnt allocated is a gen 4

[empty quartz]

Samsung is shit

[livid perch]

wym

[empty quartz]

Samsung drives arent reliable, and like to die

[livid perch]

what do i get than

wd black?

[empty quartz]

Teamgroup

Wd black is the apple of normal ssd’s

[livid perch]

soo good but expensive for no reason also overrated

soo this?

my friend is building a 9070xt and 7800x3d system for 3k usd

over there in turkey bro

[tidal hull]

👌

[livid perch]

even with all the ram prices n stuff i can build the same system for like 2300 in the US

[livid perch]

holy shit its him

[tidal hull]

Aura monster

[ionic atlas]

Wd Black was a great branding .. I don’t understand why Sandisk killing it . https://overclock3d.net/news/storage/sandisk-unveils-optimus-kills-wd_black-and-wd-blue-branding/

Way more confusing now

[livid perch]

ong

https://klipy.com/gifs/obi-wan-kenobi-star-wars-4

[hollow grail]

well i got that for purpose of reliability lol

[clear canyon]

my samsung drives are going strong after 7 years

[random gyro]

Slightly more serious topic. How can i avoid being despressed about pc building slowly becoming impossible. This has been such an important hobby to me and brought me together with so many people. Its all so serious and doom and gloom now

[sinful cobalt]

find another hobby

[cosmic idol]

lowkey hes not bad looking

[iron glen]

Wait until ai doesn't need the ram anymore
Will take a few months - a year

Atleast from what I've been told

Or, be russian and make your own ram

[random gyro]

Its not even just AI though. Obviously gpus. But now we're getting to the point where the ceiling to entry is raising every year where in most countries the earning wages dont account for inflation. Disposable income is just less for so many people and if you dont have a good used market youre kindve screwed. The onlt saving grace is games arent 100$ yet but we know thats gonna change. Its like the phone situation every time there was a new one theyd increase by 100$ or so and then we let apple make their iphone 10 1000$ and its spiraled from there.

[versed swan]

I don't think game prices are going to hit $100 any time soon. There's just too much competition.

[split laurel]

[warm saddle]

For what id pbo then?

[cold skiff]

It’s getting to the point where for a lot of normal people, finance will be the go to option. Like with phones.

The next PlayStation will be a minimum of $1k

[real quiver]

I just want the steam frame to be sub-$800

Realistically sub-$1000

[tidal geyser]

Like I said allows the cpu to use as much power as it can

[warm saddle]

And CO?

[tidal geyser]

Curve optimizer

[clear canyon]

it optimizes curves

[tidal geyser]

Pretty sure that is the thing that actually over clocks

[random gyro]

sup

[ebon marlin]

Someone donated us a laptop with a 1tb drive lmfao

[clear canyon]

wdym, there was no drive in it

[ebon marlin]

Exactly

I might genuinely steal it

[clear canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-psychicpebbles-pim-smiling-friends-pim-mr-boss-gif-1373626090718171797

[ebon marlin]

Laptop has a weird ass fault aswell

Everything works but when you start moving your mouse with the trackpad the screen turns off

[tidal geyser]

Ec chip is failing somehow

O no 5v rail feeding trackpad and ec chip is failing

Or the trackpad is making a lot of noise

I dono I want to fuck with it now

[ebon marlin]

I don't think the trackpad has speakers attached to it

[tidal geyser]

Electrical noise ye cheeser

[ebon marlin]

I cleaned cables contacts and it seems to work now question mark

[tidal geyser]

If it works it works

I was looking for a zebra

[ebon marlin]

Neigh

[winter lantern]

Its gonna be either slightly better or worse than a 4060 prebuilt

[ebon marlin]

Battery health also seems to be at 100%

Who tf donated this? It's a perfectly fine laptop with a 10th gen i5 and a 1tb nvme

[tidal geyser]

Do some cycles also 39wh battery seems a bit small

[tidal geyser]

Is this the same one with the trackpad issue?

[ebon marlin]

39wh is pretty standard for basic laptops

[ebon marlin]

Yeah was fixed by cleaning the cables contacts

[tidal geyser]

Most people are way too scared to even open their laptops

Cleaning the contacts and using the right stuff maybe do not even have the stuff needed is how it is for most people

[ebon marlin]

All i used was a toothbrush and a random isopropyl foam I found at another work table

Hmm 256gb nvme or msata

Eh I'll use the msata as it's also HP branded

Ulala the 1tb drive is also an intel drive

It's an Intel 660p

[limpid ivy]

Lol I get concerned looks for how violent I open the hp laptops

screws out then I use the ifixit suction cup and rip the back out.

Putting it back just I hit it so the clips go back into place.

[steep orchid]

Yo can anyone build me the best 1000dollar pc Us

[edgy holly]

#1106613567966429224

[sinful cobalt]

“32gb ram”
“1tb ssd”

bye lando bye lando

[edgy holly]

you're better off asking there @steep orchid

[edgy holly]

which drive ?

there is no drive in Ba sing se

[ornate harbor]

hehe Car

https://tenor.com/view/cavif-cavifax-gif-3330778137757269524

[junior merlin]

RTX 3080 for the GPU. Build around that.

[ebon marlin]

I changed the nvme and the trackpad doesn't work anymore

Vas

[ornate harbor]

Maybe a ribbon cable got loose

[ebon marlin]

No

Both are completely in different sides of the laptop

And I made sure all connections are connected properlu

[ornate harbor]

Your laptop is cursed

I can feel it

[ebon marlin]

What the fuck????????

The trackpad only works with the 1tb drive

I put the original drive back and now the trackpad works???

What the fuck

[ornate harbor]

Is it a additional drive or did you change your OS drive

[ebon marlin]

Os drive

[ornate harbor]

Maybe Factory Drivers for the trackpad are on there

[ebon marlin]

Trackpads are supposed to work without drivers

[ornate harbor]

Well I have never changed my laptops nvme but it seems like a possible option

[ebon marlin]

And this is a factory reset drive aswell

[ornate harbor]

Hmmm

[fickle ivy]

I wish my quest 2 would actually work more than 10% of the time

Everything's gone down since meta took ever

Every single time I try and use it there's some new unnecessary shit and then the fucking core functionality doesn't work

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-break-dance-endfield-arknights-arknights-endfield-gif-12163275330078387139

[ornate harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-endfield-arknights-gif-802929914484949789

Man I love Chen

[ornate harbor]

I thought 42 minutes about this and I came to the conclusion that your laptop doesnt like you

[ebon marlin]

The laptop is weird as hell

With the original drive the trackpad works but keyboard doesn't

With the replacement drive keyboard works but trackpad doesn't

[ornate harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/exorcism-father-mulvehill-evil-z-is-for-zombies-get-out-evil-spirit-gif-22407195

it is cursed

[tidal geyser]

Dog

[ornate harbor]

Car

[tidal geyser]

Cart

[ionic peak]

Markt

[peak swan]

Guys, check out my new keyboard

[ornate harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/cavif-cavifax-gif-3330778137757269524

[ebon marlin]

AMD 2 cores = 4 cores somehow

[bold olive]

next distro after a beginner in ubuntu

cachyos maybe?

[ebon marlin]

Linux Mint

[cold skiff]

AI is wild

[cold skiff]

It’s not wrong but it could be worded better. I’m not looking into the gpu though in too lazy

[bold olive]

UHHHHHHHH

[tidal geyser]

Smt

[bold olive]

nvidia or xorg driver

nvm nvidia it is

[frail sequoia]

Is this too loud?

[ebon marlin]

Allat for Rihanna

Gay

[ionic peak]

Bastighg challenge

[ionic peak]

You?

[ionic peak]

Chicken

[bold olive]

i definitely do need to change because 25.10 doesnt have x11, therefore my games no load

[tidal geyser]

what games

[bold olive]

xplane 11

[tidal geyser]

x11 stinky 2x my age WM

[bold olive]

it just wouldn't load

[tidal geyser]

just use proton

PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1

[bold olive]

it still doesnt

it opened with a black screen and i was greeted with this

needed patience to load lol

[tidal geyser]

like i said just use proton yea

does ubuntu have wayland as default i cant remeba

[true adder]

AZ-900 exam in 3 minutes 🤞

[peak swan]

That's my main

[tidal geyser]

you are having these issues due to what happens with most native linux games, person wants to have a life and stops maintaining it or it just sucks

[bold olive]

for 25.10 its wayland only

no idea why

[tidal geyser]

x11 is a bit over 2x my entire life in age

there is a reason why wayland is taking over

[bold olive]

x11 is still there for compatibility reasons

cough cough nvidia drivers

[tidal geyser]

what do you mean nvidia drivers

nvidia works amazingly on wayland

[bold olive]

i just say that just in case if i get a performance degrade on games compared to windows

[tidal geyser]

thats dx12

[frail sequoia]

I’m straight, I have a gf

[ebon marlin]

Okay mr gay

[frail sequoia]

I’m straight

[ebon marlin]

Uhhuh mr gay

[warm anvil]

This happened btw

[warm anvil]

Kira would've died so fast if the cat wasn't there

[ebon marlin]

Silence

[warm anvil]

Still the best villian tho

[ebon marlin]

I still haven't watched entire p4 yet

[warm anvil]

I was joking

[warm anvil]

I meant dying IN GAME btw

[ebon marlin]

I just got to the point where killer queen bites the dust gets revealed

[warm anvil]

Ohh peak

https://tenor.com/view/kira-yoshikage-anime-jojo-gif-10238235

[ebon marlin]

Rip Rohan was my favorite character so far in the part

[warm anvil]

He has a spinoff show

[ebon marlin]

I know but it's not by Araki

[warm anvil]

Is it not?

[ebon marlin]

No

[warm anvil]

Sad

I hate this creature so much

[ebon marlin]

It's by the same people who made the original OVA's

[warm anvil]

Holy camera quality

[ebon marlin]

Holy noise

[warm anvil]

4k

[warm anvil]

Cause I took it with my front camera

[warm anvil]

What to play

[gilded harness]

jojo in ltt discord is not on my watch

[ebon marlin]

Bro has a handful of games

[warm anvil]

Big 256gb of storage

I have a few hundred games bought tho

[ebon marlin]

Every game is just okay on that list

Ay caramba

[warm anvil]

Big i3 and integrated graphics

[gilded harness]

same here g ❤️

[tidal geyser]

one of the hundreds of free games on epic

[ebon marlin]

Ew

[tidal geyser]

massive amounts of storage

[ebon marlin]

Epic games yucky

[tidal geyser]

so many decent free games

[warm anvil]

Yuck D. E

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-luffy-monkey-d-luffy-the-one-piece-is-real-stand-gif-10047556268266163574

[tidal geyser]

even able to play most if not almost all on linux

[ebon marlin]

256gb of storage meanwhile I'm stealing a 1tb drive from work

[warm anvil]

Like what

I'll send my specs holdup

[silk grove]

very amazing specs

[ebon marlin]

The laptop I'm setting up that someone donated to us is slightly better yhan that

[warm anvil]

I could afford a much better device right now but I'm saving for something that can play newer games

[warm anvil]

Thank you

[little fossil]

well i just found out that my laptop is terminally ill

[ebon marlin]

Someone deadass donated this laptop with a 1tb nvme for us

[tidal geyser]

panther lake, panther lake, panther lake

[ebon marlin]

Poop lake

[warm anvil]

My friends giving me a free laptop in like 2 days

[tidal geyser]

comet lake

[ebon marlin]

Poop lake

Poop cat

[warm anvil]

Poop dog

[ebon marlin]

Bismillah

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-fran-surprise-surprised-amaze-gif-17445576049176622344

[ivory mountain]

terraria w/ tmodloader

[warm anvil]

Goat

[thin plover]

poo

[warm anvil]

Aight

[warm anvil]

Wrong reply it seems

[ivory mountain]

yep fuckass discord

[little fossil]

TPM module appears to be failing and it is probably a matter of time before bitlocker kills my whole shit

[ivory mountain]

only a few new part upgrades and i wont have to touch this pc for years ❤️‍🩹

[little fossil]

i opened it like 2 hours ago and it forgot my pin

[warm anvil]

Like what?

[little fossil]

like it straight up asked me to make a new one

[tidal geyser]

how many have you claimed so we can see over em

im sitting at like 300+ i think it was

[warm anvil]

Claimed?

[tidal geyser]

redeemed

[warm anvil]

I haven't used epic Games launcher in like 6 years

And that was like once

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-worried-oh-no-anxious-gif-11565777

[thin plover]

oh no

[warm anvil]

Oh. No

[thin plover]

I only claim epic games games when it's a real banger

[warm anvil]

Lemme login to my epic acc

[wheat torrent]

did you watch new season of frieren

[tidal geyser]

not yet

[wheat torrent]

im waiting for the last ep

[warm anvil]

I'm waiting for dub

[wheat torrent]

I wonder if they are going to reach heaven in this season or not

idk how long story is

[true stirrup]

A tiny bit loud

[warm anvil]

Aaand my 2 step email is an email I've never seen in my life, cool

Time to make a new epic acc

[tidal geyser]

das not gonna have any free games

[frail sequoia]

I usually listen to jumpstyle but I like a lil bit of whitegirl music from time to time 😭

[ebon marlin]

Gay

[frail sequoia]

BRO IM STRAIGHT

[ebon marlin]

Ok mr gay

[frail sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-mods-mods-take-away-their-kneecap-privileges-kneecap-discord-gif-16907222988962456914

[warm anvil]

Yeah true

[warm anvil]

S3rl is my goat even though its not jumpstyle

[ebon marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-epstein-legendary-chest-gif-605946429643287865

[frail sequoia]

I like loud

[frail sequoia]

How can I be Epstein, bro I’m 16 😭

[warm anvil]

Hell yeah

[ebon marlin]

Is that AI miku

[frail sequoia]

Idfk

[frail sequoia]

I feel like your rage baiting me

[ebon marlin]

Rage baiting is for gays

[warm anvil]

Hot take minors can still be predators or weirdos

[frail sequoia]

I’m not tho

[warm anvil]

That's not what I meant😭

It is a thing in not saying you are

[frail sequoia]

Ok

Ik*

[frail sequoia]

Irn bru > coke

[ebon marlin]

Gay

[warm anvil]

Are you irish

Do Irish people like irn Bru or is that Scotland

I don't remember

[frail sequoia]

Scottish

[warm anvil]

Ohh

[frail sequoia]

No you

[warm anvil]

I said Irish cause I'm Irish and my friend really likes irn bru

[ebon marlin]

Okay king gay

[warm anvil]

What if you are both gay

[ebon marlin]

They sell that here in Finland too it's okay

[frail sequoia]

Lol, it’s a Scottish drink but can be bought anywhere in the uk

Edit: Europe then not uk

[frail sequoia]

I’m not

[warm anvil]

It's alright but not better than coke

[ebon marlin]

Nothing can really compare to a cold coke

[frail sequoia]

I can’t wait to turn 17 in August and then take driving lessons

[frail sequoia]

Out a glass bottle yeah

[ebon marlin]

Make sure you organize it so you can take ur actual driving exam during winter

[frail sequoia]

No

I’m taking it in autumn since my bday is August 30th

[ebon marlin]

Gay

[frail sequoia]

No

[warm anvil]

Dr pepper

[ebon marlin]

Dr pepper is disgusting

[frail sequoia]

That has a cherry taste to it

So imo it’s shite

[warm anvil]

Yeah

FUCK BOTH OF YOU

I love all this tech chat we are doing

[ebon marlin]

Okay Epstein

[frail sequoia]

I just don’t like cherry flavoured drinks apart from barrs cherryade

[wheat torrent]

[warm anvil]

Sad

[true adder]

Yes passed my AZ-900 exam

Questions are way harder than on the practice exams

[frail sequoia]

I don’t like sudo apt install, I prefer sudo pacman-S “name” and sudo yay -S “name”

[warm anvil]

Same

But most people dont use arch based distros

[frail sequoia]

sadly I have fedora on my thinkpad rn

[warm anvil]

I'm using cachy atm

[frail sequoia]

I’m probs gonna install arch on my laptop at somepoint, if I didn’t need support for my thrustmaster wheel and shifter I would switch on my pc too

[warm anvil]

I'm getting a free laptop in like 2 days so ima install regular arch

[bold olive]

and then prompts:

WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed.
This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
pop-desktop pop-session (due to pop-desktop)
some-bullshit-apps (due to pop-desktop)
xorg (due to pop-desktop)
1 upgraded, 38 newly installed, 67 to remove and 86 not upgraded.
Need to get 6,7 kB of archives.
After this operation, 195MB disk space will be freed.
You are about to do something potentially harmful.
To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'

[frail sequoia]

I got my thinkpad with an r5 5500u for free cause of a giveaway LOL

[bold olive]

gulp

[warm anvil]

My friend got a new laptop so he's giving me his old one for some reason

[frail sequoia]

I prefer using regular arch then using iwctl for WiFi then using archinstall to get it all setup

[tidal geyser]

wait someone using pop

[warm anvil]

Huh

[frail sequoia]

W

[bold olive]

bruh none got the context?

[warm anvil]

Do you have like a popOS radar

[tidal geyser]

most people jumped off it due to having uh issues

[frail sequoia]

Pop_OS is shite, makes Ubuntu non bloated

And it’s based ON Ubuntu

[bold olive]

as a ubuntu user i can confirm

[tidal geyser]

they just ignore you

[bold olive]

good to know

[tidal geyser]

i would suggest trying out cachy, it just works for me

all my homies using cachyos

[bold olive]

i was also conidering cachy after stepping my roots into ubuntu

[frail sequoia]

I’m just busy

[ebon marlin]

Israeli music

[frail sequoia]

It’s jumpstyle ffs

[bold olive]

whats zen4 instructions 😭