tech-chat-1

[steel glade]

I have to drop the fps to 100 fps and it still does it

[ionic atlas]

main benefit is really that, you can show your whole 1080p content without the macOS dock, or windows taskbar getting in the way

[tidal geyser]

wtf, why not go into the support channel and ask for help trying to fix it

[steel glade]

It used to do 240 easy

[kindred halo]

Do you the right drivers

Is there anything with your RAM configuration

[kindred halo]

Fair enough

[steel glade]

All my drivers are up to date, ive restall the game, update my bios ive done alot. I think its my gpu

[tidal geyser]

here is his pc

[kindred halo]

I'd say probably not enough of a difference to warrant going from buying a $280 T14 G1 to a $420 T14 G3

They're both 45% NTSC anyway 💔

[steel glade]

Ive updated it 🤣🤣

[tidal geyser]

is rebar on

[kindred halo]

Atleast I think they're 45% NTSC, the price kinda hints it

[steel glade]

I might go see could be the issue

[tidal geyser]

can you show me your startup apps

[kindred halo]

Was gonna ask that but sim. Beat me to it 💔

[tidal geyser]

i feel like this is a bloated windows install issue

rebar should already be on

[steel glade]

Im still on 10

[tidal geyser]

i found the issue

windows 10 sucks

[rigid fjord]

nah it's not a win 10 issue, it's a user issue

[steel glade]

Last time i knew windows 11 was awful

[tidal geyser]

welp i went linux anyways

been a easy ride

[rigid fjord]

wonder what crap he has running in the background in regards to 3rd party apps

[tidal geyser]

vanguard probs

[steel glade]

Discord or Spotify

[tidal geyser]

can you show me your startup tab

[rigid fjord]

wouldn't surprise me, then there's the argb/rgb software

[tidal geyser]

i know i was gonna say dat

he has those stupid fans that cause 2.4ghz noise

[steel glade]

Ya im looking at the bios real quick

[rigid fjord]

what's the bet on them using wallpaper engine as well?

[tidal geyser]

80%

[ionic atlas]

the desktop (shell) is for sure.

[bold olive]

the one that caused shortages?

[tidal geyser]

linux

[bold olive]

oh

[tidal geyser]

most of nvidias money is coming from servers using linux

[bold olive]

linus torvalds:

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-fuck-you-linus-linux-torvalds-gif-14466816460290694115

[rigid fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-torvalds-linus-nvidia-fuck-you-gif-19475186

[ionic atlas]

windows 11, it's a niche operating system made for gaming.

not made for desktop use :p

[tidal geyser]

uh

[rigid fjord]

wrong, that's bazzite

[tidal geyser]

steamos

[rigid fjord]

also yeah

[tidal geyser]

that xboxos thing

[rigid fjord]

previously pop!os also

[tidal geyser]

and then console OSes

[tidal geyser]

nahhh pop!os was more just desktop

[rigid fjord]

could game on it also with windows based games

[tidal geyser]

das proton

[ionic atlas]

I'm sarcastic, but the truth is that gaming is one of the thing windows excels at in terms of development and running binaries.. but everything else nowadays seems to just be worse than others out there. doing actual desktop stuff

[rigid fjord]

it all points to, win 11 not being niche for gaming only

[tidal geyser]

oh yea macos if whatever you do can run on it

[rigid fjord]

it don't excel at gaming at all

[tidal geyser]

windows will die out if MS does not try to fix it

[tidal geyser]

well everything is made on it

some games have linux native versions but they tend to have so many issues and run so badly you NEED to switch to proton

[rigid fjord]

it's technically just the easiest for compatibility

[bold olive]

@tidal geyser ubuntu install choices:

1. on a 16gb drive, 32 if able to config raid
2. partition my windows nvme and use dualboot
3. a 128gb sd card

[ionic atlas]

we gotta look past the whole publisher nonsense, but as a development platform, I would pick macos for soundtrack and writing, but ... game dev, there's no other choice. every other choice just pain

[rigid fjord]

you have to look at the licensing nonsense around it all

[tidal geyser]

well yea 94% is windows

[rigid fjord]

the most shittiest one on that is macos

[ionic atlas]

yes pay 5 dollars to microsoft for HEVC in the store, what nonsense is that

[rigid fjord]

you did a dumb paying when it can be gotten freely

[tidal geyser]

i would start off with linux mint instead tbh, and try to get another ssd and install it on there

[rigid fjord]

codec packs ftw

[cold skiff]

This

[steel glade]

@tidal geyser what did u want me to look at

[rigid fjord]

codec packs exist

[ionic atlas]

i have a folder of win 10/11 extensions, yes, you can get it for free, but it's "technically" it's free via manufacturer like pre-built/laptop etc.

[cold skiff]

MS should be sued for that one

[rigid fjord]

ever heard of k-lite?

[tidal geyser]

startup apps

and yes rebar is on in the bios

[ionic atlas]

yeah used it a lot on windows 7, then those didn't work on windows 10, had to use windows 10 specific onnes...

maybe they got around to make it work again.

[rigid fjord]

i've been using it on win10 under their latest version

[ionic atlas]

but to amke a game on windows, all you need is windows, not paying licenses.

unless you want to pay for licenses if you decide it's going to be cheaper than doing it your self, but that's opt-in

[cold skiff]

K-lite is the OG codec beast pack

People use noise suppression from amd?

[rigid fjord]

it comes with adrenalin tbh

[rigid fjord]

the github update needs to be on for discord tbh, and icue is going to be a resource hog

[cold skiff]

I’ve always had it off

[tidal geyser]

how much further down does it go

[steel glade]

thats it

[rigid fjord]

3 things that require instant removals from windows always

[cold skiff]

Copilot

[steel glade]

lol

[tidal geyser]

im unsure if vanguard would show up there or not

[cold skiff]

Remove it and use chatgpt instead

[rigid fjord]

it does if i remember correctly, but then it only works if secureboot is enabled

[rigid fjord]

no, remove it and get a lobotomy instead

[steel glade]

should i update to windows 11?

[coarse grotto]

damn my list is allot longer lol (i use DISM++ and Bulk Crap Uninstaller for them :D)

[tidal geyser]

wipe and install would be best

but right now i do not really know what is best

i just gave up and have been living nicely on linux

[coarse grotto]

secureboot i dont know but you cant be running any selfsigned drivers like the winBTRFS driver

[steel glade]

ivw done that twice

[tidal geyser]

wipe and install 11

[steel glade]

ohh

[tidal geyser]

but there could be other issues like overheating here too

[steel glade]

my bad

[coarse grotto]

*recommends gentoo 🦹

[tidal geyser]

install and open hwinfo

[coarse grotto]

(im installing gentoo on my laptop at the moment aswell you can join me 😄

[tidal geyser]

im fine on cachyos

[coarse grotto]

im actually using cachy liveiso to install gentoo 😄

[kindred halo]

Hmmmmmmm
$123 (including import tax and shipping) for a 72% NTSC screen for le T14 G1

Probably not worth it tbh

[rigid fjord]

it's a requirement for it to run

[kindred halo]

But replacement screen prices isn't my department

[coarse grotto]

well i use my own secureboot keys , i suppose they dont check for that"D

[teal sphinx]

6600xt for 150usd or 3060 ti for 175usd

used

[rose stream]

What do you do mostly and what else would you save your budget for later?

[teal sphinx]

gaming, also looking into playing in ai soon

yeah i think i know the choice

but idk if either is a good choice cuz the 8gb vram is really limiting

[rose stream]

Uuhhh which model type? Llm or transformer?

If the latter, you might be able to get away with less vram. Not necessarily 8 as much, but yeah.

[rigid fjord]

the 6600xt is the better option there based on price, but if you're sharp and crafty enough you might be able to find a 6700xt for less than 200

as for llm's the minimum vram you want really is 12gb vram

[tidal geyser]

nvidias upscaling performance has reached a new level

[teal sphinx]

Too early to say. depends on the problem

[tidal geyser]

as much as i hate nvidia their upscaling is just too good

[teal sphinx]

3060 base model? 😂

[tidal geyser]

yes 3060 tends to be selling for more than 3060 ti

[rigid fjord]

it's actually good for that

3060 12gb is an ideal starter gpu for those getting into doing llm's

[teal sphinx]

found a 3060 12gb for 155

nvm it's a scam

[tidal geyser]

i sold my 3060 for like 230 i think it was

[rigid fjord]

alternatively, could look into getting a quadro rtx gpu instead and run the llm directly on that while gaming with a different gpu

i.e. rtx a2000/a4000

[teal sphinx]

i would prefer to do both with one

don't have that much to spend

rx580 are not cutting it

rx580 are still going for overpriced price anyway, so i can recoup some cost from that

[rigid fjord]

well, tbh, rx580 still fine for 1080p gaming, just not good for llm's

[teal sphinx]

yeah i got the rx580 for like 25 buck a year ago?

people still selling it for 50 buck. and it's getting sold. no idea

[rigid fjord]

4gb version?

[teal sphinx]

8gb

it's a deal

[rigid fjord]

got a lucky bargain there then

[teal sphinx]

ya

also uhh i am doing game streaming

[rigid fjord]

8gb one has stood at 50-70 on average

[teal sphinx]

like uh moonlight sunshine

[rigid fjord]

obs using nvenc better for this also

[teal sphinx]

i just tried my friend's 6600xt. it's much smoother and the image are crispier, prob cuz rx580 encoder kinda bad

[rigid fjord]

nvenc = nvidia's h.264 encoder

[rigid fjord]

more like older on the rx580 compared to rx6600xt

[teal sphinx]

well my friend asked me to buy 6600xt for him from someone here, and i helped him pick it up and tested it

so i'll use it for a while before i go back to homestate. i am currently studying out of home state.

[tidal geyser]

sounds like h265 vs h264

[rigid fjord]

i'm gaming on a rx590 myself tbf

[teal sphinx]

ehh, i turned both compression to lowest possible

since i am using it over great wifi, even 500mbps are ok

my uni have amazing wifi

[rigid fjord]

nah, older avc vs newer avc (both doing h.264)

[teal sphinx]

yeah even both doing h264 the 6600xt are much better

[rigid fjord]

for amd, it's really 7000 series radeon rx's onwards where they've actually been decent for h.264

previously they was better in h.265 aka hevc

[teal sphinx]

hmm, the 6600xt seem much better ald compared to rx580 tbhn

the text are no longer slightly blury and actually quite sharp

[rigid fjord]

this could be due to a setting in the game/scaling

[teal sphinx]

i mean through sunshine moonlight

i changed some settings, it got better. but it never looks at good as native

basically just turned all the compression down to lowest or even off.

while rx6600xt basically looks as good as x264 software

[tidal geyser]

9000

i think the boost is like 20% or smn

[rigid fjord]

thing is, 7000 is where they started the improvement while also adding in av1, then they improved on that with 9000

though for most streaming it's 1080p h.264 which actually uses more bandwidth for lesser clarity and more compatibility between sites

1080p h.265 can use less bandwidth while maintaining better quality in comparison

but you won't fiding streaming services using h.265 tbh, and only a couple may use av1 also/instead

[cold skiff]

Pretty much only YouTube on AV1

Twitch if you’re big enough

[rigid fjord]

like youtube is h.264 primarily while as a beta it uses av1

[cold skiff]

Like top 0.1%

[rigid fjord]

tbf, twich can fuck itself in the same way linus told nivida to do so

[cold skiff]

iirc there’s a half baked Nvidia av1 beta support still but it’s no where near as good as it ought to be

[rigid fjord]

intel is the better for av1 for sure, amd a close second on that front

[lunar yoke]

Is there anyone here that knows or can tell me where I can find what settings labs use to test GPUS on CyberPunk?

[orchid trellis]

Is it possible to convert a 12 pin connector to an 8pin connector?

[olive sierra]

Just got this mobo for £10, no ram that fits and no PSU... is there a way to power without?

[rigid fjord]

requires a normal atx psu to make it work, that and some ddr3 ram

well ddr3/ddr4 depending on the cpu there

[olive sierra]

I do have DDR4, not sure it fits though

[tidal geyser]

what does psu stand for

[tidal geyser]

its 4th gen aka ddr3

[olive sierra]

Power supply

[tidal geyser]

a few PSUs even come with one

[tidal geyser]

how can you power something without power

[olive sierra]

What

[rose stream]

There's just too few using either. Discord also only did AV1 as a beta that they then limited to just Geforce 40-50 users. Don't even know if they still offer it for anyone at all either.

[tidal geyser]

you need a computer power supply to power a computer

something with a 24 pin and the likes

[olive sierra]

I know...?

Idek what the board is

[tidal geyser]

same as any other custom pc

you can use a psu from around the late 2000s or one from 2026

[olive sierra]

Don't have any psu

[tidal geyser]

too bad no worke pc for you

you also need a cooler

[olive sierra]

I knew that already, no need to be rude

I have a fan cooler

[boreal ice]

do i absolutely need to use isopropyl alcohol to clean thermal paste off a cpu, or would i be fine with over 90-95% ethanol?

[tidal geyser]

the reason why we use iso is in case you get some in the socket or on the motherboard somehow thus having the chance of shorting something out.

so yes you can just be careful.

[craggy cove]

useless fact: the am5 clamshell is slighty larger

[tidal geyser]

you can put a am4 cpu into the am5 clamshell

useful fact

[craggy cove]

true

can you put am3 cpus tho?

i have none cause why would i

[tidal geyser]

probs

[craggy cove]

square is square

let me test lga 1151

the answer is no

it fits actually but it wobbles

lga 1200 might have a better chance

[ionic atlas]

There’s surprising many that can’t tell a square is a square due to our eyes

For many 5:4 is square while 1:1 looks too tall in first glance

[acoustic fjord]

I need some help

I have a mini itx mobo

But all my ram won't fit

Due to a cooler clearance issue

Would I be fine to just

[ionic atlas]

[acoustic fjord]

Sand of the side of my cpu cooler

Like the plastic shroud

[craggy cove]

3:4 looks very squareish at times

or maybe i do have a 1:1 monitor in the basement

[craggy cove]

its plastic y not

[acoustic fjord]

Just worried

I might screw something up

Normally I build on very cheap parts

And this build for me at least was expensive as hell

[ionic atlas]

I do think tho. 3:2 does feel okey square for stuff like laptops/tablets.

Can’t remember 3:4 but that’s you mean rotated CRT? As the old crt used to be 4:3

[craggy cove]

oh mb 4:3

we really settled for 1280x1024 back then huh

i have this thing somewhere

[indigo temple]

does logitech g pro wireless support left handed users?

[craggy cove]

it should be ambidextrous

[indigo temple]

like is there buttons on the right side for leftyes?

[craggy cove]

i think so

[craggy cove]

https://www.logitech.com/assets/65542/pro-wireless.pdf

[indigo temple]

thanks alot man

[craggy cove]

np

[steel glade]

@tidal geyser bruh game holding 240 fps after updating to windows 11

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/caramelldansen-dance-frieren-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-sousou-no-frieren-gif-4961230924170982724

[tidal geyser]

windows 10 is old

probs some other program too, but main issue going forward is how unstable windows 11 is becoming.

meh live life in the moment

[steel glade]

but we back at 240

but i still might upgrade tho

[wicked parcel]

Why do websites say that Exynos 990 is the same perf as a Snapdragon 6 gen 3 when the exynos is so much faster when im testing it?

[rigid fjord]

yes, but you may find the gpu came with the adapter

[boreal tiger]

maybe you are testing it wrong

[wicked parcel]

Discord barely moves on my snapdragon 6 gen 3 and day to day apps take time to load

Exynos 990 Is almost instant compared to it

[rigid fjord]

til square becomes rectangle

[boreal tiger]

Hell no

That's not how you test them

[wicked parcel]

I don't care about benchmarks I care about real world usage

[boreal tiger]

Storage type ram type all matter

[rigid fjord]

gathered that due to the ihs being shaped differently tbh, am4 clamshells can hold am4 and all amd cpu's before it, am5 is the odd one out in this case

[wicked parcel]

Ah, my snapdragon 6 gen 3 is a Redmi 15 5G and my Exynos is an S20 Plus

[boreal tiger]

And?

[rigid fjord]

certain old lcd monitors also can be 4:3/16:9 and on the odd occassion 5:4 also

[wicked parcel]

Bruh I'm following what you said😭, considering the Redmi 15 is a really budget phone I'm saying you might be right

[boreal tiger]

Oh ok

[wicked parcel]

The ram on it is probably way slower

[hexed sage]

Hello guys

[boreal tiger]

What if I'm not a guy

[rigid fjord]

it's an ambidextrous grip but the buttons are on the both side of the mouse

[hexed sage]

Is Russia an Asian country?

[quasi moat]

Yes

[hexed sage]

That's what I was thinking

[quasi moat]

You were today years old when you learned this

This is what discord is for

[hexed sage]

My friend told me it wasn't

💔

I have great Russian knowledge, I play cs

[quasi moat]

Your friend needs to take two steps back.

And fuck his whole face

[hexed sage]

Yo what

[rigid fjord]

i would say it depends on who you ask

[hexed sage]

It's Asian tho

Cause I said so

[boreal tiger]

Wdym it depends

[hexed sage]

Some people say it's European

[azure topaz]

some people say the earth is flat

[boreal tiger]

People also say the Earth is flat

[hexed sage]

In reality it's Eurasian 😭

[pulsar root]

If people hate windows/microsoft so much, why do they still use windows OS?

[hexed sage]

Use your brain

[boreal tiger]

Russia is in Asia period

[azure topaz]

too much work to switch for what many people see as a minor task (using the computer)

[quasi moat]

https://tenor.com/view/grinch-the-grinc-jim-carrey-christmas-movie-gif-4779204

[rigid fjord]

eurasian, but if you was to ask a russian they might say otherwise just because

[vast otter]

https://youtu.be/wtZSnmAMfoQ?si=mZ4bNBo7sy8zxK8P

[hexed sage]

Has nothing to do with the work involved, mostly everything supports windows and other OS does not have the same support

[quasi moat]

He’s asking a fact not an opinion

[azure topaz]

this is a problem for gamers not people who just use chrome or whatever

[stray portal]

wow i already have the built in windows rgb controller

[sleek ibex]

[tidal geyser]

chromium

[azure topaz]

i’m talking like ultimate end user scenario

[hexed sage]

I never said games, software in general

[azure topaz]

most people don’t use more than the browser

[quasi moat]

Rauko cooking one up rn

[hexed sage]

Google docs

[boreal tiger]

Broad statement

[azure topaz]

google docs is a website

[hexed sage]

Nah

[azure topaz]

a correct one

[stray portal]

the days of 1000 software apps might be gone

[azure topaz]

i’m talking people who aren’t zoomers forcing their computers to do our dirty work

[stray portal]

sadly i dont have the issue of different software apps since i have all razer products : /

[rigid fjord]

the facts would make it eurasia, as it's techincally both in eastern europe and north asia

[quasi moat]

The fact is. Russia is in Asia

Fucking dumbass

[azure topaz]

try to convince an entire office of people who already barely know how to use the computer to learn an entirely new os just for nothing for them to be different

[jaunty apex]

That's the part that's sad? Not that it's Razer?

[boreal tiger]

Russia is in Asia that topic is not even up for discussion

[azure topaz]

it ultimately is most people don’t have 2-3 days to stop things on their computer to learn how to use it again

[hexed sage]

Russia is Eurasian

[sleek ibex]

People trying to grasp some countries can be in both continents Challenge: Fails, badly

[hexed sage]

If you rearrange the letters in Eurasia you get Russia

[jaunty apex]

OK. We can't afford windows licences so good luck team

[quasi moat]

Anyone who thinks Russia is not in Asia you’re parents don’t love you for a good reason

[plain cypress]

@clear canyon I found a little corrosion

[azure topaz]

literally lmaooo

[quasi moat]

Must have gotten dropped

[azure topaz]

people asked me what the email site was

the real end user is pretty rarted with a computer. most people haven’t even seen inside of one (excluding the occasional glass panel in walmart)

[jaunty apex]

My business will not run on windows, I will literally necessitate my employees use Linux

[azure topaz]

and you will pay for that in form of user training

[jaunty apex]

Assuming I start one anyway

[plain cypress]

Ask people what they would be most efficient/comfortable with

[azure topaz]

computer usage today is generally just assumed, but sometimes people even on windows need a lot of help

[hexed sage]

Ai, am I right guy?

[quasi moat]

When you’re done. Fix mine too

[rigid fjord]

due to how far russia (the country it spans) no it's classed as being both europe and asia

[hexed sage]

This guy as an EMS person is scary

[jaunty apex]

Eurasia

[rigid fjord]

i see a wiring loom to cause the biggest nightmare possible there

[plain cypress]

As long as I can waive all liability 😛

[quasi moat]

And I work nights

[sleek ibex]

Russia isn't the only one, Turkey is another example

[hexed sage]

I feel bad

For your patients 😭

[quasi moat]

Don’t. I take great joy in it

Oh yea. The patients

[jaunty apex]

I mean if I'm starting in computer repair I'd hope they know how to use at least AN operating system

[hexed sage]

I know you be selling their kidneys

To afford ram 😭

[plain cypress]

What's the night differential

[quasi moat]

Garbage

Nyc FDNY ems gets paid 17 an hour

[plain cypress]

Mine was 15% (semiconductor manufacturing)

[rigid fjord]

more alcoholics

[plain cypress]

My kind of people

[buoyant bridge]

Snap on made me fucking add lock out tag out procedures for USB CABLES when I hired a mechanic finally

[plain cypress]

We had a guy quit the other week
He was drunk when he showed up to drop off his laptop/phone/badge

[quasi moat]

FDNY ems ——minimum wage

FDNY fire—— 100+ $ a year

[buoyant bridge]

because he's a dumbass and plugged one of the USB A to A cables for the Heavy diesel scanners into a laptop and scanner and just killed a $10K scanner

[jaunty apex]

Damn. Can't believe they have a fire department at all

[buoyant bridge]

$100K a year seems super low for fire department

Is it unmanned or smth

[quasi moat]

It’s getting to the point where they may break off from the department

[plain cypress]

That sounded like the average income for firefighters? Idk

[quasi moat]

Bruh. If that’s low.

What is minimum wage for ems

[buoyant bridge]

The manned departments in my area make $180K a year

the unmanned ones make $110K a year

[azure topaz]

not everyone in a business is doing what your business specializes in

you need logistics you need inventory etc

[quasi moat]

You not even acknowledging ems is literally so poetic

[azure topaz]

these people don’t have to know how to fix a computer to work at your shop

[quasi moat]

It’s so perfect

[buoyant bridge]

my area has separate EMS, Fire, and Police😭

[azure topaz]

they just have to know how to learn how to use your inventory system etc

[buoyant bridge]

I'm talking about EMS

manned fire departments here make upwards of $200K a year

[quasi moat]

The level that the people of nyc don’t give a shit about public services is incredible

[azure topaz]

man this is some normal tc1 stuff

[rigid fjord]

eh, they'll know the basics of windows in most cases, other than that, it's more tech enthusiasts that delve deeper

[buoyant bridge]

I'ma be real a lot of larger cities don't acknowledge them 99% of the time because they're something you only need a few times a year at most

[azure topaz]

bro i don’t even use crosswalks

[plain cypress]

What am I gonna do today

I've been awake since 2am so I feel like shit

[buoyant bridge]

smoke a rack of ribs

[azure topaz]

ship me a particularly garbage cpu cooler?

or a power supply

[quasi moat]

And you know what. Keep it that way.

Cause when I show up at your door. Tired. Annoyed. Not giving a fuck

I don’t get in trouble

[rigid fjord]

pour yourself a 5th and neck it

[plain cypress]

Uhhh, define garbage

[azure topaz]

it was “free”

[plain cypress]

Floppa I have a spare Corsair AIO and I may have a spare EVGA psu

[rigid fjord]

lga1200 stock cooler

[quasi moat]

Message removed 🙁

[ionic peak]

Stone

[azure topaz]

i don’t want the h110 but is the evga a bomb

my sister may need a new psu already

[buoyant bridge]

Got war shipped <\3

[plain cypress]

I'm so sorry to inform you that I've utilized it

[azure topaz]

thermaltake is terrible

[plain cypress]

The 13700k system needed a bigger rad

[azure topaz]

oh that’s fine i thought it was 240

[quasi moat]

Take my evga

[buoyant bridge]

When firefighters in my area show up to some scenes that are a bit more specific they can get in shit loads of legal trouble if they don't contain it fast enough

[sleek ibex]

I'm just glad that Daniel is working with US Customs so I could buy directly from his shop and not have to worry about paying high shipping costs and imports

[rigid fjord]

for the better part, yes they are dude

[azure topaz]

but what’s the unit

[hexed sage]

A more dangerous job

[plain cypress]

I have an h60i and h100i
Actually not clear if I have 1700 mount but they do have garbo AM4 mount

[azure topaz]

i am buying one rn from kyoko but it’s for my bench

[buoyant bridge]

We have more special case fires than most of the US that's why it's so high the average is only like $70K a year state wide

[ionic peak]

What am i seeing here?

[plain cypress]

I'm moving PSUs around. Probably some 2016 EVGA 650w bronze is what I will end up with as spare

[quasi moat]

I did cpr on a new born neonate baby.

It died

And I got lit up by boss cause I brought a stretcher on scene

[azure topaz]

h100i if you have mounting for it and don’t need it for anything you think i could pay an price for

[hexed sage]

I'm just gonna work some tech job

[azure topaz]

may need you to measure rails with a gpu load if you can but if not it’s whayever

my sisters brand new 650w thermaltake goes to 11.4v on a gpu rail

[buoyant bridge]

that's so dumb wtf.. aren't you supposed to move any person on a stretcher anyways

[ionic peak]

It Service for school

[azure topaz]

causing the pc to randomly black screen

[sleek ibex]

So that's nice since his shop is Aussie based

[plain cypress]

It ran a 2070S for a while but it's not been loaded for a while

[quasi moat]

It’s a baby. So not in that scenario

[azure topaz]

well that’s her gpu

but she also has a 12700K

[plain cypress]

Intel defaults

It will sip power

[azure topaz]

floppa defaults but basically

[buoyant bridge]

Ah, I've not worked with EMS much I just knew people where generally only supposed to be moved on a stretcher for safety reasons

[plain cypress]

Currently I have an EVGA 850 G3 sitting in a box

[azure topaz]

it’s got ht off and the vid scenario adjusted its pretty mint but shader comp or something still makes it draw quite a bit

[quasi moat]

Right. And your right

Which is why I brought it for the mom

But the mom was DOA from a drug OD

[azure topaz]

that is much too nice to lowball

[buoyant bridge]

damn..

[azure topaz]

my sister had one of those thermaltake bronze semi modular things idk

[plain cypress]

Lol
It was $75 or $80 in 2018

[azure topaz]

bm3? bm2?

[quasi moat]

All for that MinImUM WaGe BABY

[azure topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-pepe-frog-talking-discussing-meme-gif-26871471

[ionic peak]

https://tenor.com/view/badlands-badlandschugs-chugs-chugging-ocean-gif-14470320132933540227

[plain cypress]

Floppa why do you have multiple ewaste psus

[sleek ibex]

[ionic peak]

To play cs go irl

[buoyant bridge]

You don't get hazard or out of home range pay in your area?

[azure topaz]

i got the 850 version from best buy for my mom for super cheap and so i figured i’d get my sister the same one and idk apparently it maybe has issues

[plain cypress]

But I want to put it in my server which currently has an EVGA 650w something iirc
I do not know the exact model in the server

[quasi moat]

Negative and negative. Hazard pay comes when you sign up for HAZ MAT

[azure topaz]

they’re tier C units on systems that shouldn’t draw more than 300w i figured it would be fine

[plain cypress]

I've seen some rm850x on marketplace a while ago for like $60 each

[buoyant bridge]

Ahh, my city started requiring hazmat training for ALL EMS personal so.

[azure topaz]

none here and i felt that since its not my computer i should get them a new psu

i have a 1300G2 in my server which is insane overkill i just don’t have any other genuinely good units for a server

i’m buying kyokos leadex 1200w for my bench

[bold olive]

i kinda want ubuntu, i prefer their design

[azure topaz]

my main system has a meh 1000w msi thing

[spring latch]

yeah yeah whatever

[azure topaz]

i got the g2 1300w for only 65$ with all the cables

[quasi moat]

She lays dormant

Awaiting a return of her species

[ionic peak]

1kw or is it 1gw ?

[sleek ibex]

@azure topaz how much you reckon those Greenies Hynix kits are fetching for?

[plain cypress]

That may be what's in my server

[ionic peak]

Cheap and gd

[azure topaz]

100-130$ per 16gb dimm if you know where to snipe

[quasi moat]

It was a good budget psu 7 years ago

[azure topaz]

homie just got a 32gb set of hynix adie for 200$

[spring latch]

what the hell is that emoji that looks like it depicts somebody bad

[azure topaz]

unrated but ofc does 6000 c30 no issue which is fine for his am5 system

[sleek ibex]

Honestly not as bad as I thought it would be

[azure topaz]

yeah people shopping new or for specific gaming modules are doing it wrong

when you know how to ram oc you save a lot of money during shortages

[plain cypress]

Hm

Yeah I should have bought an rm850x when I saw it on marketplace
Oh well

And some backup ddr5 smh

[ionic peak]

Daimn

[quasi moat]

At least there is an endless pit of Overtime to be worked

We make it work

[buoyant bridge]

warehouse jobs have that too at like $22/h

[azure topaz]

yeah this is my scenario

[plain cypress]

I miss overtime pay

[azure topaz]

there’s no more cheap units on ebay psu wise

[buoyant bridge]

I know the bidfta near me lets employees start putting in upto 70H a week paid after their second week at $19.50/h

[azure topaz]

i was looking to snipe another 1300g2 but they want like 120$

[sleek ibex]

NGL I've been wanting to experiment with some Ram blocks. I might do some OCing/Tuning with these though I'm a smooth brain with RAM OCing

[azure topaz]

i’m not paying 120$ for an 8-12 year old psu

[ionic peak]

How many hours per week?

[bold olive]

firefox being cool with their language

[buoyant bridge]

Ratliff in Brookville has up to 80H a week at $22/h

[azure topaz]

it’s not too hard.,just don’t give up. wanting to fafo is the most omportant bit

[ionic peak]

80 😮

[ivory mountain]

"helps you get sh*t done" proceeds to be slow as shit

[azure topaz]

i basically learned everything basics wise by just playing in my bios

[odd marsh]

it's a good price for a bomb tbh

[azure topaz]

you won’t break anything even if you’re an idiot

[buoyant bridge]

30 is mandatory and during rush season 45 is mandatory outside of that everything is choice

[quasi moat]

They brought the glass back

[azure topaz]

it’s unironically a great unit i however paid 64$ for it like 4 years ago so i don’t think i should pay more than that

[ivory mountain]

every drink tastes better in glass

[odd marsh]

100%

[quasi moat]

I took a sip and I was 10 years old again for a second

Took a sip and far cry 3 had just come out

[ionic peak]

My max allowed hours is 48

A week

[bold olive]

serious?

[buoyant bridge]

I personally let my warehouse employees do up to 60 a week but only require 35

That's at $21.50 an hour

[bold olive]

i thought it was a good browser

[runic veldt]

yoo

i need help

[plain cypress]

No

[ionic peak]

In Germany you arent allowed to work over 48 max ( if you do 40 hours ) after that is extra pay

[buoyant bridge]

In the my state it's anything without at least 10 hours between shufts

[plain cypress]

I sometimes work 60 hours and only get paid for 40

[buoyant bridge]

So doubles are extra pay

[azure topaz]

it’s fun but doing it for anything other than that (at least min maxing it) is useless

[ivory mountain]

salary moment

[plain cypress]

Very much

[ionic peak]

Thats bad

[plain cypress]

No, that's America

[ivory mountain]

my dad works 45 hours a week, then drives an hour there and an hour back

he only gets paid for 40, shits messed up

[azure topaz]

my gfs amazing ram oc

[ivory mountain]

wtf is a gf

[plain cypress]

My door to door time is 10 minutes

[azure topaz]

what about die to die?

[ionic peak]

Do you have much rights as in Germany when it comes to work

[plain cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-america-childish-gambino-dancing-gif-12164113

[ionic peak]

A mystery

[azure topaz]

my ai computer

[azure topaz]

💀😭i hope it’s real and i wish nothing but misery on them

[thin plover]

Why

[azure topaz]

frick then idk

[thin plover]

okay

[ionic peak]

Daimn can you get directly fired?

Even if you worked 10 years?

[ionic peak]

https://tenor.com/view/zappy-gif-3682514736491853281

[plain cypress]

They can fire with cause

[ionic peak]

For me its like indirect after a month even if it was at the first days of the last month

How big is the difference between Germanys worker rights and Americans worker rights?

[rigid fjord]

they have the labour board for what it's worth, but unions scare american companies quite a bit

[ionic peak]

Still more than zero

[rigid fjord]

high expectations there dude

[runic veldt]

@tidal geyser

[azure topaz]

you’re changing ram timings. not fucking sending astronauts into space

[ionic peak]

Nice idea

[azure topaz]

the genuine worst case for ram oc is that you cook your os, just do it on an alternate install if you’re that worried

[ionic peak]

Psr 1 to the moon

https://tenor.com/view/قمر-gif-17418910228073388341

[tidal geyser]

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/249195/249195

[runic veldt]

Warning: You are viewing an unverified BIOS file.
This upload has not been verified by us in any way (like we do for the entries listed under the 'AMD', 'ATI' and 'NVIDIA' sections).
Please exercise caution when flashing it to your graphics card, and always have a backup.

[tidal geyser]

they say that on all of them

[runic veldt]

not in all

[tidal geyser]

show me

[runic veldt]

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/210706/pny-gtx1660-6144-190306

[tidal geyser]

eh kinda fair but checked a ton others and it says the same thing

the reason its different is due to the vbios changing over time

always some small tweak to be made but after factory you cant do much

your vbios has not been tampered with

[runic veldt]

but there isnt on pny site eather my gpu

[tidal geyser]

HMMMMMMMM

[tidal geyser]

cool reddit name you got there far

[runic veldt]

what

[runic veldt]

ya ik

[tidal geyser]

but i can assure you ITS A LEGIT VBIOS

[indigo temple]

where do i report ppl that are impersonating others in this server?

[tidal geyser]

is it in this server?

[tidal geyser]

i suspect its just a old gpu being old

you do not have much vram and its just just being supported by nvidia

[orchid trellis]

Which ones? I want to do 12pin->8pin, not the other way

[tidal geyser]

again like i said some PSUs even come with one

[tidal geyser]

i am amazed its even supported still due to lacking RT cores

[runic veldt]

yea but i used for 4 months not like

[indigo temple]

i think that its pretty sure to say that this is not him (he sent me req from this server so watch out )

[tidal geyser]

usage is not the issue here

[runic veldt]

fuck

what gpu u suggest me

[tidal geyser]

its a bot

[indigo temple]

okey

[tidal geyser]

anything modern with RT cores

[ionic peak]

I ask him to scam other people

[tidal geyser]

but could you show me this missing texture again

or in another game

as most games tend to load textures during gameplay unless you have a got tier cpu

i played a entire round of fortnite in the gray zone due to a cpu i was testing being so slow

[indigo temple]

this is from the bot xD

he says that he has life as ceo

[tidal geyser]

report and block

[runic veldt]

any amd recommendation ?

[ionic peak]

I ask him deep questions

[tidal geyser]

how much is your budget

[runic veldt]

250$

[tidal geyser]

also wait a moment, what cpu do you have?

[runic veldt]

r5 3600

[tidal geyser]

that could maybe also be the reason

im pretty sure most of your issues are just normal computer things

i just do not have a clear enough picture to really say for certainty what is the root cause or if its everything in combination

[indigo temple]

if u would have better cpu and more budget i would suggest 3080

[runic veldt]

yea no

[tidal geyser]

rx 9060 xt 16GB or b580

[runic veldt]

i will only play 1080p not 1440p

[hexed sage]

5090

[indigo temple]

but still 3080 is really good value at like 300

[tidal geyser]

what even are the current prices

[hexed sage]

5020 ti

[runic veldt]

ur stuped

[tidal geyser]

are you recording or have any background apps open when gaming

[runic veldt]

thats like 500 in my country

[indigo temple]

okey

then buy 3060ti or smt

[runic veldt]

nah js steam

[tidal geyser]

have you played valorant or something?

[runic veldt]

NO

HELL THE FUCK NO

[hexed sage]

Language

[tidal geyser]

o well at least dats good

[runic veldt]

5020 ti

[hexed sage]

?

[runic veldt]

i play cs2 and pubg

and i installed yesterday bf6

and its boomer

[hexed sage]

Are you new to English or new to life

[tidal geyser]

im just thinking pc is a budget one thus you will meet on some funky issues

[runic veldt]

this is cursed asf

[indigo temple]

how much ram u have and how powerful psu

[ionic peak]

I silenced him

[indigo temple]

k

[runic veldt]

u ask me ?

[tidal geyser]

psu??

[ionic peak]

He thinks I'm john pork

[tidal geyser]

what does psu have to do with this

[indigo temple]

power supply

[tidal geyser]

yes i know what it means

bad psu in 99% of cases just means the computer turns off

[hexed sage]

Strong PSU = strong performance duh

[tidal geyser]

the computer does not know much wattage the psu is

so no bigger psu does not mean your components will use more power

[runic veldt]

i have 16gb kingston fury beast at 3600mt and coolermaster gx 550w

[ionic peak]

1% bomb

[hexed sage]

Bro doesn't know

[indigo temple]

i asked to know if the gpu needs to be like 3050 that doesnt consume any power

[hexed sage]

This guy doesn't know the oldest trick in the book

[tidal geyser]

xd why is the first picture of that psu this

[jaunty apex]

Damn I can't see most of chat rn lol

[tidal geyser]

wah, also dat gpu is 75w

[hexed sage]

Probably a good thing

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/sudo-rm-rf-linux-bruh-chungus-poggers-gif-19024993

[ionic peak]

Blind or invisible?

[indigo temple]

is that bronze grade?

[tidal geyser]

does not matter

[runic veldt]

bronze +

[indigo temple]

then it should be good to go

[tidal geyser]

80+ is trash anyways

[hexed sage]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-big-boss-snake-invisible-duran-duran-gif-897325744993006672

[indigo temple]

get like 2070 super or smt

[runic veldt]

oky thank u guys

[tidal geyser]

over something like a b580?

[indigo temple]

no

[tidal geyser]

why

[ionic peak]

Only matter if it doesn't boom

[indigo temple]

if thats option then he should go with the intel one

i think that the interl one has like 14gb of ram

[runic veldt]

thats in my buget and its perfect

[tidal geyser]

12

[hexed sage]

https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-black-guys-two-black-guys-apple-apple-laptop-gif-3090298217787114336

[tidal geyser]

its pretty old but should work ok

[runic veldt]

better than this crap

[ionic peak]

3gb is enough

[indigo temple]

go with the 2070s

it little bit better than the intel

[tidal geyser]

is it?

[hexed sage]

200kb

[indigo temple]

by like 5% or some

[runic veldt]

anyways thanks

[ionic peak]

Be realistic 256mb in 2022

[hexed sage]

5kb

[ionic peak]

We on the moon

[hexed sage]

All I can afford

[ionic peak]

Damn these ai shit

[tidal geyser]

in some games intel like 50%
https://www.reddit.com/r/IntelArc/comments/1k11h7u/intel_arc_b580_vs_nvidia_rtx_2070_super/

[indigo temple]

but if u can afford the 2080 then go with that or maybe even the 2080ti

[indigo temple]

yeah but in some nvidia

[hexed sage]

I feel like buying a human brain and converting it into biological ram would be cheaper than buying 32 gbs of ddr5

[ionic peak]

Arc furnace better

[runic veldt]

sure men ur best thank u

[ionic peak]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[tidal geyser]

and these are 9 month old drivers

[tidal geyser]

the rtx 2070 super only got 8GB vram too

[indigo temple]

yeah but pretty good still

[tidal geyser]

question is just the price

[tulip sparrow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/eVJY5tMPxs4

[runic veldt]

i gtg thanks guys

[hexed sage]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-omniman-invincible-meme-gif-14970603868221209304

[tidal geyser]

if the b580 is around the same price i would way way rather chose it

[indigo temple]

but if u go with like 2080 ti its like 40%

[ionic peak]

A job?

[indigo temple]

morethan the intel

[plush wren]

@tidal geyser you use linux yes? what do you use for screenshotting your screen

[ionic peak]

I get so much season 4 trailer brainrot

[tidal geyser]

what OS are you using

[plush wren]

cachyos

[tidal geyser]

kde plasma?

[plush wren]

gnome

[tidal geyser]

spectecle

[red light]

is 16gb ram good for pc?

[tidal geyser]

no clue what gnome uses

[tidal geyser]

tons of tests out there

[plush wren]

freak

[ionic peak]

Vram ram or storage?

[plush wren]

ill figure it out

[red light]

ddr3? i guess

[hexed sage]

Would you rather be ai or cake

[hexed sage]

Decisions decisions

[tidal geyser]

no windows 11 for you officially

[ionic peak]

Ai prob

Bc no leg cramps

[hexed sage]

32 gb my minimum

[red light]

well yeah look at how is that ram size are actually good to me in 2016 era

[tidal geyser]

needs ai for everything

[ionic peak]

198

[tidal geyser]

no

tbh the entire 16GB line seems pretty bad

[valid fiber]

minimum 3 digits

[tidal geyser]

gnome-screenshot

[ionic peak]

2b is enough

[valid fiber]

*tb

[red light]

this is actually good windows

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/no-pixels-cant-see-ben-chang-community-ken-jeong-gif-3238541819982055225

[ionic peak]

2 bites

[ionic peak]

Average video after a 8k 30 sec add

Fisher

[rose glacier]

I have a weird thing happening to my pc for the past month.
randomly all my usb devices loose power for 1 sec and then come back.
but after it come back windows it self is semi frozen some stuff works others dont.
if i pull out a usb device it wont work ad all after that.
i can see in event viewer somthing about low energy controler.
The local adapter does not support an important Low Energy controller state to support peripheral mode. The minimum required supported state mask is 0x2491f7fffff; got 0x1fffffff. Low Energy peripheral role functionality will not be available.

[tidal geyser]

seen people been talking about this A LOT recently, some issue with windows i bet

i love not needing to think about it

[rose glacier]

so its a stupid windows update crap again

jezus will there be a windows update that wont fuck up somthing

[ionic peak]

I have an issue with discord, sometimes when I play gregtech new horizon it says I'm on the game even after the game closed

[tidal geyser]

the launcher is still open

[rose glacier]

is there a way i can go back on a windows update or am i stuck until the fix it

[tidal geyser]

you can try

[ionic peak]

Nope

[tidal geyser]

but im not even really sure what the issue is myself and do not have windows so cant really test anything

[tidal geyser]

discord being wonky

[ionic peak]

Quirky at nigh5

[rose glacier]

each day i think i just make the switch and just install linux

[tidal geyser]

it really has a curve but if you can read and use google most issues have a quick and easy fix

some software and games might not be supported tho

[rose glacier]

well i am screwd until next windows update only 10 days revert period not a month

[tidal geyser]

on the software side most things have a alternative now, how good are they at times well uh good luck.

while gaming mostly every game you can think of can be played on linux even from all different kinds of stores main issue is just multiplayer.

[rose glacier]

yea with the kernel stuff

i rember

thnx any way

[tidal geyser]

i did see you made a post in tech support if nobody else comes probs a issue nobody has a fix for yet but if you find a fix pleas ping me.

[ionic peak]

Hello?

Am I alon

[orchid perch]

i have 32gb of ddr5

[rose glacier]

congratulaion who did u rob 🙂

[ionic peak]

I have a message

[daring scaffold]

I have 192GB of DDR5

[jaunty apex]

Multiplayer games with anticheats that are broken or deny Linux support entirely

[orchid perch]

i bought it like a month before the shortage

now the ram i bought is 3x the price

[orchid perch]

ok chill

[clear canyon]

Lmao

[jovial swan]

is the lenovo legion 5+ with the ryzen 7 350, 24 GB ram and RTX 5060 a worthwhile thing to pickup?

[sinful cobalt]

I have…. 3x2x16gb kits… I regret not buying a 48 and 64 kit for personal use

[rose glacier]

there is a posibility prices will go down also if those china people work fast 🙂

[jaunty apex]

Overprovisioning

[empty quartz]

:3

[jovial swan]

https://www.lenovo.com/dk/da/p/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-5-series/legion-pro-5i-gen-10-16-inch-intel/83nn004hmx

epic sale ngl

[versed wind]

Nice

[ocean axle]

14900HX
beware the self-eating with that CPU

thats the same die as a 14900, and fully enabled

[molten patrol]

im currently looking for some wireless mouse and i found this. can i trust the 30hours battery life (it cost like 48$ ish)

[ebon marlin]

30 hours of battery is very little what the fuck do you mean can you trust the 30 hours of battery life

[jovial swan]

oh god

[jovial swan]

https://www.lenovo.com/dk/da/p/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-5-series/legion-pro-5-gen-10-16-inch-amd/83lt004umxbundle

so this one better

[molten patrol]

yk sometimes it will run out b4 it reach 30hours ykyk

[ocean axle]

zen4 ryzen CPU, its not going to eat itself like the intel one might

[ebon marlin]

That just means the battery has degraded from various multiple different reasons due to physics of lithium ion

Ttc silver though meh

Very disappointing for a mouse at that price range

[ocean axle]

30hrs for a mouse is probably fine,

[jovial swan]

which one is better for gaming
AMD Ryzen™ 7 8745HX-processor (3,60 GHz op til 5,10 GHz)
or
AMD Ryzen™ AI 7 350-processor (2,00 GHz op til 5,00 GHz)

[ebon marlin]

Current Ryzen AI cpus are just renamed previous gen cpus

[ocean axle]

i use g502 lightspeeds, w/ lighting on, 48hrs battery life, usually only need to plug it in every week or two

[ocean axle]

no they aren't

[empty quartz]

I use a g903 with lighting on

[ebon marlin]

I have a Lamzu Maya X which lasts like 80 hours according to google AI as Lamzu doesn't disclose it

[ocean axle]

the 8745HX is zen4
350 is zen5/zen5c

[ebon marlin]

Might've mixed up Ryzen 200 series with 300 then

As Ryzen 200 series uses Zen4

[molten patrol]

indeed theres like few mouse company option only. logitech , razer , hyperx and this

[ocean axle]

seems both have about the same single core, and the older one higher multi, so, for pure perf 8745HX

[empty quartz]

@ebon marlin according to logitech, my g903 gets 140 hours of battery with lighting on

[ebon marlin]

Sounds gay

Ur battery is shit

Like 70% battery health

[empty quartz]

Nope

[ebon marlin]

Oh wait you didn't even mention ur mouses battery duration idk where i got that from

The cold is doing things to me

It's touching me

[plain cypress]

threw the car away and bought a new one cause of it

[left cloak]

Hey youtube on firefox is like this even though adblock is off and nothing happens when I refresh it

[clear canyon]

like you should

[ionic atlas]

It was so insanely dusty and even when u think it’s decently clean it’s still not clean enough lol. But it started up… now I don’t know why it says RAID need to be enabled to avoid unknown issues.. but time to find out

Man these Asus guys was ahead of its time… AI bios features 🫠

[sinful cobalt]

they do nothing btw

[ionic atlas]

sounds like marketing... you're hired!

[clear canyon]

ur like 7 years late

thats been a thing for a while

[ionic atlas]

technically it's been since the 70s, but seemed like every decade they changed the definition

and what was once AI, became a specific term, and then AI became a new thing

like, we used to call enemies/people in video games for AI... and now it's NPCs

[ocean axle]

well, no

NPCs in games generally still have AI, using the term properly

the current "AI" craze is more correctly called Machine Learning (ML)

[ionic atlas]

yeah, we know have a more defined term for npc's

[dapper light]

NPCs are less AI than what you call "AI"
to call it anything AI is not using the term properly at all
majority of NPCs (basically all) uses classical algorithms
if we take GTA 5 as example it's all preprogrammed actions, from the walking, the talking (literally uses prerecorded bits), the shooting (no actual aiming, just hitscan with probability function to not hit everytime)

Complex, but it's all preprogrammed

Intelligence generally refers to things that can adapt without predetermined settings

[ocean axle]

it is Artificial Intelligence

[ionic atlas]

for a while i remember pre-2020 they started to call it "game ai"

[ocean axle]

it may not be very intelligent, but its both artificial and some amount of intelligence

[dapper light]

It's a human shaped app

[ocean axle]

and im not saying that the modern stuff isn't AI too, but ML is still the more correct term for the difference

[dapper light]

you can map all interactions you'd have with an NPC with UI buttons and the response in JSON

[meager echo]

Heyyy guys , can I ask you guys something??

[ocean axle]

AI is the big umbrella at the top, both fall under it

[dapper light]

it's the furthest thing from AI

[ocean axle]

no

[meager echo]

Okk

As you wish

[ocean axle]

that isn't what id call NPC AI like that

when you have NPC enemies in games, making decisions based on the environment, even if thats programmed by a person, thats AI

[tidal geyser]

I knew it on the cpu

[dapper light]

Hardly.

[meager echo]

Guys this is my setup

[tidal geyser]

That is a laptop

[dapper light]

You can program a simple NPC to react to say, shooting
by simply say executing a shootBack function after an gotShot event listener is activated

[ocean axle]

note that im using AI and not AGI/GAI

[meager echo]

I go for Topographical Mouse pad or a Plane Black Mousepad?

[dapper light]

that's hardly intelligent

[distant lynx]

hi. i have a motherboard that powers on and everything but doesnt work. i know the issue is the bios (it says powered on longer without it) but i cant seem how to flash the chip. i have a cha341a programmer but it never seems to program even with new chips. anyone got a good tutorial?

[meager echo]

Pls tell me

Topographical Mouse pad XL or a Plane Black XL

[tidal geyser]

Sure the bios chip ain't like 1.3v?

[distant lynx]

Yup its 3.3

[meager echo]

Heyyyy

Pls tell me

[distant lynx]

Rampage V extreme to be exact

[rose stream]

Okay yeah, I find your definition fits into the category of misuse for the definition now.

A dumb algorithm is still defined as an AI, regardless the level of intelligence it possesses, like it or not.

[dapper light]

oh man my isEven function is AI now

[rose stream]

It is a piece of programming doing more than one simple thing, sometimes even adaptively, and gives the feel that more is going on.
Not enough for you to say it is- who gave a damn in the first place?

[twin grove]

anyone know of a good wifi blutooth adapter that supports wifi 7 and blutooth 6.2? I want the latest of each if I can

[distant lynx]

@tidal geyser got any ideas on it?

[tidal geyser]

You sure pin 1 is matched up on both sides

[dapper light]

A dumb algorithm cannot be classified as AI, as per, literally NASA
It does not perform tasks under varying and unpredictable circumstances without significant human oversight (only within the expected scope of input in algorithms, that's why we made typescript afterall), nor learn from experience and improve performance. Is also not designed to think or act like a human.

https://www.nasa.gov/what-is-artificial-intelligence/

[frosty ruin]

@tidal geyser

[rose stream]

In terms of terms, people recognize a game NPC or enemy... As an AI. You want to change how we see or say it, good flipping luck. Again, nobody gives a damn.

[tidal geyser]

And those flashers also have 2 different functionns as there is a switch

[tidal geyser]

Holy Jesus

732 euro

[frosty ruin]

Prob overpricing due to not released yet

[tidal geyser]

For a overclocked 9800x3d

[empty quartz]

I charged it for the first time in like 4 months on wednesday

[dapper light]

I don't care about people's perception
i just find it stupid rogue denies to call LLMs AI and yet calls dumb as bricks NPCs AI

I don't care that you don't think LLMs are AI but you can't not think a much smarter LLMs as not AI but NPCs AI

it's like refusing to call a human an intelligent species but believes a pig is

[rose stream]

And most of the public don't care what they say either and it rolls better than trying to call it what is in relation to all other places where algorithm is said... And people are tired of terminologies constantly being changed as is.

[ocean axle]

if the term got used properly by everyone, LLM's do fall under it

the problem is that the modern use of AI to refere to LLMs is getting too close to people meaning AGI, which they are not

ML is a subset of the general "AI" umbrella

it is more or less advanced pattern recognition

[empty quartz]

Im tempted to try running an llm on my workstation

[ocean axle]

it is not general intelligence, it is not thinking, it is not understanding

[rose stream]

We're basically sabotaged by marketing fluff at this point whenever certain terminologies comes into question. Can't say what it isn't because nobody will get it, others don't think it sells it good enough, and it's already ingrained in pop culture as is.

[dapper light]

not my point.
my point is, if you count NPCs as AI then LLMs Definitely counts as AI
you can't count NPCs as AI then denies LLMs being AI when the latter performs much more advanced human like tasks

[ocean axle]

id argue that a game enemy AI actually does more "thinking" than LLMs do, even if that thinking is pre-programmed by a human.
and NEITHER are AGI

[ocean axle]

AI used properly yes, AI as used by marketing today (AGI) no,

in either case as something you can trust, oh fuck no

[eternal cloak]

Don't LLMs literally just form a single word based on your prompt and then form sentences by rough guessing based on what word was written before the word it's trying to form now lol

[wheat torrent]

the only true AI would be a simulated brain which would have to showcase traits of intelligence

[ocean axle]

kinda yes, its advanced pattern recognition

[rose stream]

Pretty much all it is in a nutshell.

[eternal cloak]

Hell yeah, Michael Reeves taught me shit

[twin grove]

wait is there any bluetooth 6.2 adapters out yet I know its really new but like some adapters should be on the market right?

[dapper light]

I do believe the industry is overhyping it
but calling it "just" pattern recognition is underselling it by a mile
technically true, but using this same road of logic a plane is equivalent to a car strapped with wings and a jet engine

[empty quartz]

Bluetooth 6.0 aint even out yet

[eternal cloak]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WP5_XJY_P0Q

[twin grove]

didn't it come out in like late 2024?

[ocean axle]

a Cessna 172 is a flying brick, and one mfg is literally airbus, soooo, to a large extent yes a plane is a car/bus with wings

[dapper light]

that's the entire point

technically true

but a plane is much more sophisticated than just saying "car with jet engines"

[rose stream]

Well you don't want to throw that argument out there as an analogy either, as we then get the ones who would argue that "you can technically do that" and get away with calling it a plane instead of just a flying car for whatever reason.

[ocean axle]

LLMs are just advanced pattern recognition, the critical part is that they aren't thinking

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/troy-community-room-fire-pizza-gif-5612111

[dapper light]

considering current latest models are smarter than most people in the internet, then most people are not thinking shit.
actually, i'd agree with that unironically

[rose stream]

Yeah, a deep dive into them basically proved that's really all they did.

[ocean axle]

thinking and being "smart" aren't necesscarily correlated

[dapper light]

the point of the analogy is,
saying it's just pattern recognition is the same kind of underselling as calling a rocket a reversed firecracker

[rose stream]

They sound smarter because they're actually trained on the smarter people. Lmao.

[ocean axle]

"lets light this candle"

[rose stream]

Which is why marketing pushes it as AI, even when it actually thinks less than game logic does. Lol.

[dapper light]

Call me when skyrim NPCs can start driving their own cars in the real world

[wheat torrent]

it is just statistics though

[ocean axle]

call be when my Tesla isn't being stupid when driving itself

[dapper light]

how is that blocked

[dapper light]

and you are just a clump of atoms equivalent to a rock

[ocean axle]

correct

[wheat torrent]

whats your point

this does not dismiss or prove anything

[rose stream]

Pretty sure even if they were given that capability, Skyrim thematically would be a bad match for real world stuff.

[ocean axle]

a clump of atoms that likes to move themselves around, and consume other clumps of atoms

[dapper light]

again, it's so freaking simple
just because it's technically true, does not mean you can just call it that

how are you all missing it

[ocean axle]

you can, and i will continue to

[wheat torrent]

AI in my book is only a simulated brain everything else is not AI

[dapper light]

start by referring to cars as horseless carriage

[ocean axle]

they were called that for a while, because carriages with horses were still common

much like AI that isn't ML is still common today

in games, for example

[dapper light]

and we're not calling it that anymore

[wheat torrent]

just call it LLM

[dapper light]

i do call it an LLM

[ocean axle]

i mean, i still call AI in games AI, because it is

[rose stream]

Same.

[wheat torrent]

I get where youre coming from but idk

it is AI as in artificial inteligence IN the game

[ocean axle]

and also because the class is literally called AI

[wheat torrent]

but it is definetly not real artificial inteligence in the real world

[eternal cloak]

What is this, a gender identity intervention?
I can't believe y'all are arguing about this lmfao

[ocean axle]

and has been since before Nvidia's marketing department got ahold of "AI"

[dapper light]

then LLMs are AI

[ocean axle]

at what point did i say they weren't?

[jovial swan]

@tidal geyser do you know if the ROG XBOX ALLY X, (the one with the Z2 extreme ) is good enough to run Battlefield 6?,

[rose stream]

I mean, this is what Purrleen wanted to debate about, so...

[ocean axle]

i said right here they are

my problem with calling them AI as AI gets used today by marketing departments is that they really mean AGI with that, and not AI properly

and AGI they are not

somehow "game AI" has fallen under this radar where people still understand its AI, but its not AGI

[tidal geyser]

https://www.google.com/search?q=rog+xbox+ally+x+battlefield+6

Jesus

[ocean axle]

oi, remove the tracking

[winged stone]

Link gore

[ocean axle]

also, nice firefox

[wheat torrent]

I am tracking you sim

[tidal geyser]

Harder to do on mobile

[tidal geyser]

@jovial swan

[winged stone]

Theres an extension that removes tracking on copy maybe

Or is that a different browser like brave

[jovial swan]

[tidal geyser]

O dear lord no, never touching brave

[ivory mountain]

i use helium browser

[ocean axle]

Oh, also, ending point, I'd like to remind you that GPT stands for Generative Predictive Text

Or at least has

[tidal geyser]

Same

Well I'm mixing a ton of browsers

[dapper light]

Generative Pretrained Transformer actually

top of wikipedia, appears on the top of google without AI overview

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-gif-4169442390448293969

[jovial swan]

I used to use Tor.... I was 11 at the time lmao. Just hated my school for having all things connected to 1 Apple ID account.

[winged stone]

Saying GPT stands for generative predictive text sounds like what an LLM would answer if you asked it