tech-chat-1

[azure topaz]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HG8C2x

without gpu:

1224

[formal elm]

path tracing seems like it would be really cool in vr

but i doubt anything can run it at playable fps

[empty quartz]

5090

[formal elm]

bsb2 for instance 2560x2560 per eye iirc

would be very cool if you could run that well with path tracing in cyberpunk vr

[formal elm]

maybe

[empty quartz]

I would get a 5090 if i didnt have more important things to buy

[formal elm]

i hope next-gen amd gpus have good raw performance gains and not just better upscaling and frame gen

[empty quartz]

9070xt would honestly not be great for 4k

[formal elm]

9070 xt seems fine for 4K

[azure topaz]

should be fine?

[empty quartz]

16gb of vram

[azure topaz]

???

[formal elm]

i use my 7900 gre for 4k even though people say its a ‘1440p card’

[azure topaz]

yeah point out the one thing that is assuredly not an issue lol

lots of 5070ti owners on 4k, yeah they get dlss but still

[formal elm]

some titles i use fsr on though to get super high fps

[azure topaz]

@odd marsh come say bad things about your setup

[empty quartz]

Fsr still sucks

[formal elm]

vram issue overblown imo it is never really an issue for me unless im trying to use settings that my gpu will run at 20 fps with anyway

[empty quartz]

Xess for the win

[azure topaz]

a lot better at 4k

[formal elm]

8gb isnt enough for these modern titles sure

[azure topaz]

i dont think ive used more than 12gb i wont hold u

[formal elm]

but 16gb is usually fine from my experience

[azure topaz]

more than enough yes

[empty quartz]

Ive used 14gb running games at 1080p

[azure topaz]

okay i can also cherrypick a scenario

[formal elm]

i think i reached 18gb before my game crashed on 4K path tracing with max settings on cyberpunk at like 5 fps or something lol

[azure topaz]

an rtx 5090 at 4k in tarkov for some reason allocates literally all the cards vram

but if you actually look at how much is being used its less than 10g

[formal elm]

i assume it uses 2gb of my dram as swap memory when it goes over the 16gb vram?

not really sure but either way it crashed i assume from that

[azure topaz]

well yeah

[empty quartz]

Tarkov just runs like shit on my system

[azure topaz]

skill issue

[formal elm]

16gb is more than enough before a 5090 for instance when you really just wanna push a game to stupid limits that nobody is realistically playing on with any other gpu

[formal elm]

fsr 4 seems pretty good

havent seen much about fsr redstone but it seems interesting

[empty quartz]

I still refuse to use fsr

[formal elm]

why?

[empty quartz]

Looks like ass

[empty quartz]

Even on quality

[formal elm]

what fsr model you using

[azure topaz]

are you at 1080p

[formal elm]

because even fsr 4 int8 looks pretty good to me

[woeful phoenix]

The 5070 TI is the best GPU P2P wise. Prove me wrong.

[empty quartz]

Whatever is baked into the driver

[empty quartz]

1440p

[azure topaz]

lmao

[formal elm]

id say 9070 or 9070 xt for purely gaming

[azure topaz]

probably

[formal elm]

if you need cuda then 5070 ti probably a good shout

[azure topaz]

nvidia feartureset much too good for me to want to give it up though

most people should buy a 9060xt if we're being real lmao

[empty quartz]

Its actually todays sponsor who’s better for purely gaming

[azure topaz]

im blocking you

[empty quartz]

[woeful phoenix]

9070 XT is $50 cheaper than the 5070 TI

[formal elm]

i love the amd software but i dont think it exists on linux sadly

[woeful phoenix]

5070 TI has better scaling, RT, FG, drivers

[azure topaz]

the 9070xt at places like mc and stuff its more like 100$

[empty quartz]

@azure topaz im sorry 😭

[formal elm]

worse drivers

[azure topaz]

most of this is useless to the gamer that is playing at 1080p

[azure topaz]

lets not say that

different issues with drivers

[formal elm]

i guess

but at least amd drivers run on linux

[azure topaz]

9000 series is far from perfect and same with 5070ti

[worthy pumice]

Can’t you overclock a 9060/70 to match even the 5080?

[empty quartz]

I still have a grudge against amd

[azure topaz]

a 9070xt yeah but you can also oc nvidia cards so whats your point

[woeful phoenix]

If theyre buying a 5070 TI for 1080p theyre doing high refresh rate where DLSS and Frame gen make more sense

[formal elm]

9070 xt can match stock 5080 iirc

[azure topaz]

no it doesnt

[formal elm]

^

[empty quartz]

Fucking rdna 2 drivers

[woeful phoenix]

Yes it does.

[azure topaz]

no it does not

[worthy pumice]

What I’m saying is that you can get more performance for less technically

[azure topaz]

lmao go spend 800$ on a graphics card to play on your 100$ monitor

[woeful phoenix]

Yes it does.

[formal elm]

why would you use dlss and frame gen at 1080p with a 5070 ti

[woeful phoenix]

I bought a 4090 for 1440p lol, best thing ive ever done

[azure topaz]

does this person also have the best gaming cpu lmaoo

[azure topaz]

77% higher res than 1080p btw

[woeful phoenix]

To achieve 360hz

[empty quartz]

Because he thinks his 5070ti is the best gpu in the world

[azure topaz]

i have 1440p 360hz on a 5070ti

[formal elm]

you could definitely do that in any titles where 360hz actually matters with a significantly cheaper gpu

[worthy pumice]

Isn’t RTX indistinguishable from RX at 1080p

[azure topaz]

the games im going to get 360fps in im going to get regardless of my resolution because they are simply flat out easy to run

[woeful phoenix]

Youre not doing that in anything other than esports titles. Even than youll be hardpressed

[azure topaz]

exactly, same for 1080p lmao

wanna know why? because im cpu bound in most applications

[woeful phoenix]

A person cant play cyberpunk at 1080p? Never knew that

[azure topaz]

you are just about as dumb as the rest of the people here

[woeful phoenix]

Didnt know it was locked to 1440p and 4k. Huh, learn something knew everyday

[azure topaz]

go shill your 5070ti for 1080p gaming

[empty quartz]

True

[left dove]

solara has been at this since 3 hours ago tbh

[formal elm]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[azure topaz]

its not, just doesnt make any sense to pay 800$ for a video card that works on your 80$ 1080p 144hz monitor

you can just get something cheaper

and ultimately have the same exeperience as that

[formal elm]

whats your fav ces product announced so far?

[odd marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-theres-nothing-thank-you-son-chris-griffin-peter-griffin-gif-16308152171798273645

[empty quartz]

I say dumb shit because its funny

[azure topaz]

exactly its quite good innit

[empty quartz]

Went a bit too far with floppa :(

[formal elm]

id have to go with the pimax dream air because now ive actually seen it is a real thing which is good reassurance for a brand like pimax

[azure topaz]

example a 9060xt, this will do at least over 100fps in most titles at 1080p and thats great

[odd marsh]

yeah i've got no problems whatsoever

[azure topaz]

will also do high refresh 240+ stuff in esports

half the price

[woeful phoenix]

Go save $50 on a 9070xt for worse RT, upscaling, frame gen, drivers and performance.

[formal elm]

actually nah the new panther lake intel SoCs are super cool more excited for them

[worthy pumice]

I saw a post on reddit about someone wondering why their ”high-spec” computer was running choppy while it was a Intel 4790K with a 4090 hooked up to it 🫩

[odd marsh]

$800 GPU, but an $80 visual experience

[azure topaz]

i have a 5070ti, i dont see the point in buyinig a 5070ti for 1080p lmao

[formal elm]

better performance in most cases for gaming afaik

[azure topaz]

using a shit ass tier monitor thats either 22 or 24 inches for a slightly higher refresh rate in games that doesnt actually happen because youre cpu bound anyways

[empty quartz]

@woeful phoenix is suffering from brain death

Thats why

(Much like me)

[woeful phoenix]

This guys got me blocked yet reads all my messages ❤️

#1 fan

[left dove]

actual degen behavior

[formal elm]

does nvidia multi frame gen boost the 1% lows or do you get a stuttery game with it

[azure topaz]

stutters happen on any fps so yeah

going from 600 to 400 suddenly you will feel it even if your monitor is 240hz

[empty quartz]

It does not

[formal elm]

i mean significantly though

[formal elm]

so with 4x mfg you could get 1% low of like 60 and average of 240?

[empty quartz]

Mfg makes your base fps lower

[empty quartz]

No

[formal elm]

what sorta numbers are we looking at

[azure topaz]

also this screenshot shows the vram usage vs allocation typa thing

game is using 10.8gb but allocates 16gb

[formal elm]

why is it allocating all of that

[azure topaz]

unity

[formal elm]

surely that is bad for the rest of your pc right

[azure topaz]

feels the same as it always does

fast computer is fast

[left dove]

unused ram is wasted ram

[empty quartz]

https://www.techspot.com/article/2945-nvidia-dlss-4/

[azure topaz]

there is larger problems

[empty quartz]

You get worse base fps with frame gen, and it gets worse the more you turn it up

[azure topaz]

yeah your 63 native goes to 55

[empty quartz]

Unable to react, but this

[drowsy isle]

Usually capping your frames could improve your 1% lows or doing some tuning to windows or your hardware could also improve, frame gen won’t improve 1% lows

[drowsy isle]

Heavily depends on the pc and games look up benchmarks using the same configs as yours

[formal elm]

frame gen doesnt seem worth it to me

does it not feel more stuttery than native

and also increase latency

[azure topaz]

simply overclock every component in your system then still be unhappy

[drowsy isle]

Worth turning on in single player, makes the gameplay smoother. It doesn’t improve performance it just makes the gameplay smoother. I like turning on frame gen on my 5080 especially when running path tracing

[sinful cobalt]

FG is not worth considering till like a 5060Ti 16GB and thats like… x2 only

[formal elm]

doesnt it feel stuttery though because of the massive difference between 1% lows and average frame rate

[azure topaz]

smae as before

[formal elm]

9000 MT/s is nice

[azure topaz]

could be better

[formal elm]

you on an intel 285k or smth?

[sinful cobalt]

time to OC the psu

[azure topaz]

close enough

[worthy pumice]

I just got my first modern GPU

[formal elm]

13/14900K(S)?

[azure topaz]

you dont do 9k stable on those daily

265K

[drowsy isle]

No it doesn’t your 1% lows aren’t decoupled with your frame gen. Think of it like having 60 frames with 50 fps 1% lows you’d have 120 fps with 100 fps 1% lows with frame gen although it won’t be exact since fg has a performance penalty

[formal elm]

ah

[sinful cobalt]

I was gonna keep my mouth shut and let you play with em but that reveal was fast

[azure topaz]

💀

i try not to gatekeep when it comes to ocing things

[formal elm]

ah ok

[azure topaz]

as thats what i dont like in the community

im on some wacko tune rn but i daily 9000 c36

[formal elm]

how can intel get such higher ram speeds than amd?

[azure topaz]

amd skill issue

[drowsy isle]

Better imc

[azure topaz]

no

amd cpus are traditionally split across multiple dies (that do not exist on 1 base tile)

the interconnect between these dies is the limiter

[formal elm]

im just wondering if intel will be able to do it on their 3d-vcache processors that i heard they are making

[azure topaz]

the imc is not the issue

[sinful cobalt]

the amd ccds are like 7 business days from the IO die

[azure topaz]

this is clear as on ryzen G cpus you can do 10000 G2

because theyre 1 slab of silicon as opposed to up to 3

[odd marsh]

and connected via used dental floss

[worthy pumice]

Wait I just realized. I have ram I can sell during the shortage 😂

[odd marsh]

I wonder how Zen6 will do with the organic interposer

[drowsy isle]

I got a 64gb corsair ddr5 kit I’m just waiting to see how expensive it gets

[azure topaz]

called FCLK or infinity fabric

[azure topaz]

it is the pcie interconnect reused inside of a cpu

[odd marsh]

APUs are monolithic right not chiplet

[azure topaz]

yeah

[formal elm]

are intel’s 18A chips monolithic?

[odd marsh]

So Zen6 should theoretically be a little worse

[azure topaz]

no theyre tile based

[odd marsh]

tile based with a silicon base tile

[azure topaz]

they have a base tile of silicon everything gets transferred through

that serves as the interconnect

[worthy pumice]

Wait are we talking about Intel’s mb or their GPUs?

[formal elm]

ah so they would have lower ram speeds than a 265K for example?

[azure topaz]

9950x3d^

[odd marsh]

talkiing about CPUs rn

[grizzled frost]

their CPUs

[azure topaz]

285K

[odd marsh]

265K is tile based

[formal elm]

oh right

[azure topaz]

all 1851

this photo shows it pretty plainly

[worthy pumice]

Has Intel begun catching up to AMD?

[odd marsh]

due to my very limited understanding, NVL mem performance should be better than Zen6, but Zen6 will have a huge boost/catchup

[grizzled frost]

not really

[azure topaz]

this is why G cpus overclock ram so much better

[grizzled frost]

their best chip is still the 14900k, at sixth

top 5 gaming CPUs are all AMD

[azure topaz]

wut

[worthy pumice]

Intel’s still overpriced I’m assuming

[azure topaz]

265K is equal to 9700X in games (either as fast or faster) and is as cheap

[formal elm]

an intel equivalent to a 9950x3d with 50% faster ram speed would be possible with their tile-based design?

[azure topaz]

you know you can go look at this, right?

[azure topaz]

when was this tested?

[worthy pumice]

Yeah but I’m probably not gonna go with intel for my next upgrade.

[sinful cobalt]

Intel’s CU bundles make AMD’s counterparts look expensive

[grizzled frost]

talking about raw performance, not cost for FPS

[drowsy isle]

Intel is raising their prices too as of recent

[azure topaz]

intel dropped their cpu prices recently? 😭

why we misinfoing because the brand doesnt make the best gaming cpu

[formal elm]

reverse userbenchmark

[drowsy isle]

14900k was $399 now it’s $450

[azure topaz]

yes look at last gen cpus

[grizzled frost]

Jan1

[fickle ivy]

My phone is on 2% and I just dropped it in water 🙏

[azure topaz]

youve got quite the brain

[drowsy isle]

14700k was under $300 now they’re charging over $300

[azure topaz]

yeah guys the 1080ti is 1200$ now

[formal elm]

did they not stop making them?

[worthy pumice]

I don’t understand why intel wouldn’t try to compete with AMD? I mean AMD’s Ryzen chips should be fine for similar purposes as Intel

[azure topaz]

nvidia hates us all

[drowsy isle]

14700k and 14900k weee cheaper back in 2024

[odd marsh]

anyways Intel Foundry Service to the moon

[fickle ivy]

Oh 1% now

[sinful cobalt]

mightve been smoothened out by the smooth operator

[azure topaz]

please think of why this would happen

[odd marsh]

my 265K shreds the 9700x in productivity

[azure topaz]

perhaps because theyre not in production anymore?

...duh 😭

[drowsy isle]

They never announced it

[azure topaz]

a 2080ti is 900$ brand new

[formal elm]

might switch to intel when i next upgrade my pc ngl

[drowsy isle]

14th gen is still in production

[azure topaz]

because its a normal thing to stop production of x cpu after the new gen comes out

[worthy pumice]

Like multimedia?

[odd marsh]

265k is better than 9900x in productivity too

[odd marsh]

yah

[grizzled frost]

define "productivity"

[worthy pumice]

I wonder how Apple Silicon compares

[drowsy isle]

12th gen and 13th gen were still in production years later

[azure topaz]

still available =/= in production

[grizzled frost]

Apple Silicon absolutely wins in Audio/video workloads, it's not even funny

[azure topaz]

when you sell all the extra stock you have and stop making extra things the price new for that product goes up

[worthy pumice]

So it beats both Intel and AMD

[azure topaz]

its like getting parts for a really old car

they either dont exist new or if they do theyre extremely expensive

[grizzled frost]

in that specific workload, by a wide margin

[azure topaz]

this is like me saying

[azure topaz]

"the 1080ti is 1200$ on amazon, were cooked"

[grizzled frost]

then you should have said "in blender"

[drowsy isle]

There isn’t any source saying that lga 1700 are not in production anymore

[grizzled frost]

there's such a wide variety of workloads that all can fall under the umbrella of "productivity"

[azure topaz]

the only lga 1700 cpus they are making are the core ultra rebrands along with rmas for users bro

[odd marsh]

media encoding too

[drowsy isle]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/multiple-generations-of-intels-modern-chips-see-price-hikes-up-to-20-percent-overseas-foreign-markets-are-feeling-the-pinch-on-12th-13th-and-14th-gen-chips nvm it was an overseas price increase

[azure topaz]

youre still comparing last gen parts to current gen of a different brand

just a stupid way of doing it

[drowsy isle]

Is there an official link or source?

[azure topaz]

yeah someone with 6 iq or more

respectfully 😭

do you think amd is still making 3600s or do you think they just made a lot of 3600s and have extras

[drowsy isle]

So you’re just going to resort to insults instead of trying to confirm with me I’m just asking where does it say that Intel is no longer making lga 1700 CPUs

[azure topaz]

yes

is nvidia still making 2060s?

[thorny saddle]

what keeb

[worthy pumice]

Istg this one guy on FB Marketplace gotta be trolling, he put up an custom built pc with a i3-9100F and a 3050 and called it high end 😭😭

[drowsy isle]

Well that gpu was even announced to be out of production dumbass I was asking where does it say that the lga 1700 are not in production anymore

[worthy pumice]

2080 hasn’t been a thing for a while now

[drowsy isle]

Intel has not announced a discontinuation of the lga 1700 CPUs

[drowsy isle]

Well yes obviously I even said that

[azure topaz]

im gonna let you sit here and be mad at me for saying a last gen cpu is likely not made at scale anymore

[worthy pumice]

I was agreeing with you

[azure topaz]

which may be why its overpriced brand new

and you can sit and think why its overpriced new

👍

[drowsy isle]

Well of course Intel won’t manufacture as many but you were saying that they’ve been discontinued clearly they have not

[worthy pumice]

Aren’t most parts a bit worse now because of the whole shortage thing too??

[mellow sonnet]

still supported and made

[drowsy isle]

But this is a pointless argument regardless

[azure topaz]

youve figured it out

[drowsy isle]

Exactly

[mellow sonnet]

also regarding the issues on 13th and 14th gen intel caught the faulty units before they went out of the fab

regarding oxidisation

[azure topaz]

nobody mentioned those

[thorny saddle]

Well I am ready!

[mellow sonnet]

it is safe to buy one

[azure topaz]

we're not talking about that

why old cpu that isnt made as much more expensive than new cpu that they make much more of

[mellow sonnet]

which

[azure topaz]

go read

[drowsy isle]

I was thinking about a price increase that Intel announced a few months ago but that was overseas and I corrected myself by even providing a link but yeah get mad don’t know why people are so bitchy in this server for no reason

[azure topaz]

thats cool

youre the one whos heated right now

second you started talkin about some "resort to insult" i just started rage baiting

[high elm]

😔

[tulip depot]

this guy's always an ass to talk to, don't get rage baited

[azure topaz]

dont ask silly questions

[thin bloom]

My pc is done doing it's data transfer. Before I do reinstall windows should I do Linux first or windows? I have to download Linux and install it onto the usb stick I have

[azure topaz]

directly comparing the price of a cpu that was clearly produced more when it was new compared to now when its produced drastically less and sold mostly to oems

the answer is clear as to why it was cheaper back then as opposed to now

you pointed out that there wasnt a price increase

then you started talking about how its still prodcued

[drowsy isle]

I was thinking about something that wasn't relevant just drop the conversation

[azure topaz]

exactly

[drowsy isle]

go outside take a walk, weather is nice

[azure topaz]

its 6pm and dark

[azure topaz]

but my whole entire point is why are you looking at the price of last gen cpus anyways

[tulip depot]

Solid collection

I need to do the ram collection

already got a few ddr5 kits

[azure topaz]

even if it was applicable to the states, why would a price increase of last gen even matter? or did you think it was for this gen/more recent

because my current thinking is that you knew it was for 14th but didnt know it was for the states too

[tulip depot]

bro just let go 😭

[azure topaz]

nope i wanna yap and if he responds im happy to oblige

[thorny saddle]

who we yappin

[thin bloom]

I'm just going to install windows first since I don't know how to run Linux

[azure topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/my-demon-mydemon-songkang-song-kang-kimyoujung-gif-3799480382790518725

mis click get random kpop

kdrama? idk who knows

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapping-level-today-catastrophic-yapanese-gif-13513208407930173397

[thorny saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/yap-yapper-yapping-what-huh-gif-17267607410251793922

[thin bloom]

I just got to say i love the look of this gpu

[thorny saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/not-sure-gif-4692361

[thin bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/yap-yapper-yapping-what-huh-gif-17267607410251793922

[azure topaz]

certainly graphics capable

[chrome ether]

oh christ

[thin bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/yap-yapper-yapping-what-huh-gif-17267607410251793922

[drowsy isle]

Is that a 5600 xt?

[thin bloom]

Yes

[thorny saddle]

If its not a 5090 I don't want to talk about it

[chrome ether]

i dont like how it looks

[thin bloom]

Got it for 80 bucks usd. The seller said he only used it for 2 years

[chrome ether]

the little dip on the end of the backplate and the spacing between the fans

i think the price is the only redeeming factor here

[azure topaz]

not really an amazing price

20-30$ than cheapest ebay

[chrome ether]

i got my 6750xt 50gbp under ebay prices

[thin bloom]

Why don’t you like the path through heatsink? It helps with cooling

[azure topaz]

its pretty ugly

[chrome ether]

its a turn off for me because they just couldnt be arsed to cover the rest of the heatsink

like its a piece of metal its not hard to cover

also shows copper heat pipes underneath

[thin bloom]

It's interesting why asrock didn't anchor the fan shroud to the board. It's anchored to the heatsink by 3 screws on each side

[chrome ether]

this is like the 3060s that have an extra fan of no backplate thinnee heatsink just extended over

[azure topaz]

holy that is gross

oh man

[chrome ether]

like every other manufacturer at least tried

asrock just didnt

[thin bloom]

What?

[chrome ether]

not saying mines a looker but there some thickness to the shroud

[azure topaz]

respectfully its just ugly im sure it performs like a 5600XT tho

[drowsy isle]

Got my 5080 for $850 from best buy, solid deal

[chrome ether]

just a random ebay picture there

[azure topaz]

quite good

[plain cypress]

Ahhh, ewaste

[chrome ether]

well damn, thats like my whole setup and a bit

[drowsy isle]

Old pic but pretty much the only ones I got of it out of the pc

[azure topaz]

damn kinda tiny in the pic

[chrome ether]

i had a ventus 6650xt probably my most favourite looking card

[azure topaz]

3 slots? 4?

i dont think mine is any thicker but kinda neat for a 5080

[chrome ether]

i had a gtx760 from evga before upgradijg to my current pc

[azure topaz]

id say my FTW3 ultra 2070 super or my strix 1080

[chrome ether]

i didnt like the 20 series evga cards

[azure topaz]

i didnt either

[drowsy isle]

Pretty small gpu inside of the pc

[chrome ether]

i think 30 series was one of the best looking shrouds theyve done

[drowsy isle]

I got the case for a steal anyways

[azure topaz]

ftw3 ultra is literally the only one that was good that gen but boy was it good

[drowsy isle]

$87 brand new from microcenter

[sinful cobalt]

looks like a eagle so like 2.5-3

[grizzled frost]

the 40 series super FE cooler was beautiful

[azure topaz]

just absolutely fat

[grizzled frost]

2070 does not warrant a 3 slot cooler

[drowsy isle]

From $170 well it was suppose to be open box but all the packaging was still on it wasn’t even opened so I assume it was an error on their part

[azure topaz]

no it does not but im happy it had one

[chrome ether]

yeah i didnt like the clear plastic on those

[azure topaz]

i used a semi-xoc vbios i got from ahem and it was great

it was like 450w in my daily config

[chrome ether]

i got my lian li a3 for 30 quid used with all the extras

[young tiger]

Is it stupid that even though I got 32gb of ddr5 before ram prices went insane, I am still debating building a new pc instead of staying on am4 and upgrading CPU because I worry about ram having issues or wanting to upgrade ram and being locked into stupid expensive ram vs DDR4 which is much cheaper and easily accessible?

[grizzled frost]

you wanna pop that source in my DMs floppa?

[thorny saddle]

squid is such a smelly currency

[azure topaz]

no

[grizzled frost]

you don’t have ddr5 on am4

[young tiger]

yeah Im aware

[azure topaz]

but god DAMN

[grizzled frost]

so you bought 32gb of ddr5 you can’t use?

[young tiger]

I don't think you read the message correctly haha

[chrome ether]

be happy with your current pc and use it while it lasts

[azure topaz]

this was also pretty fun

[grizzled frost]

and sell the ddr5

[chrome ether]

by the time the shortage ends we will have a financial recession and ddr6 might be a thing

[young tiger]

I bought 32gb of 6000 cl30 ram new for $175, but I'm unsure if I want to actually go to AM5 because of being stuck on DDR5

[azure topaz]

being stuck on the latest generation of hardware?

i dont think thats a bad thing friend 😭

[grizzled frost]

you already have 32gb of ram, what’s the problem

[drowsy isle]

So you already have a 32gb kit you could build a new am5 rig, 32gb is more than enough and highly doubt you’d need more since it seems like you’re just gaming

[chrome ether]

well theres support until 11000 series

[sinful cobalt]

“were gonna have a recession”

said every coper ever

[young tiger]

As in, if the ram dies or has issues

[grizzled frost]

they’re worried about ddr5 pricing, even though they already have 32gb

[azure topaz]

you wont have issues if it works already

[grizzled frost]

if it has issues, you RMA it

[azure topaz]

then i went to this and this gpu was ugly af

[sinful cobalt]

his steak is too juicy and his lobster is too… idk

[grizzled frost]

duck

[azure topaz]

yes

[chrome ether]

tbf its a massive sector with trillions invested into it i think itd bound to happen

[grizzled frost]

ram fan is funni

[young tiger]

I'm just saying if I want to go to 64gb or one of the sticks is dead I could have to pay stupid prices for ram. I don't have my receipt so I'm not sure if I can RMA it and even if I can what if I'm waiting for months for DDR5 to be replaced?

[grizzled frost]

why do you need 64gb

[azure topaz]

yeah i unfortunately super needed it on that rig

[grizzled frost]

do it the “proper” way with 40mm fans and a shroud

[chrome ether]

get one of those stupid lga 1700 mobos with ddr4 and 5

[azure topaz]

the "proper" way doesnt cool good, i tried

[grizzled frost]

nvm then, jank it is!

[azure topaz]

the proper way is getting a bracket to hang a fan pointing at it from the top of your case

[grizzled frost]

also floppa do you appreciate vinyl?

[young tiger]

Well, I'm wanting to stay AMD

[drowsy isle]

You can rma and usually it shouldn’t take more than a month, a week or less is what you should expect

[grizzled frost]

i got four new vinyls as a gift yesterday

[chrome ether]

well then dont complain about wanting more ram, you can give me your ddr5 if its a problem

[azure topaz]

oooh swag

[young tiger]

I don't have my original receipt and what if it's backlogged because ram avilability is even worse? IDK that's just what i worry about

[drowsy isle]

You don’t have any proof of purchase?

[azure topaz]

ooooohhh black album

[thin bloom]

I wonder how cool this gpu will run. My cpu will probably suck some of the gpus hot air into it.

[drowsy isle]

Didn’t input a phone number?

[young tiger]

I got a great deal locally from someone months ago. It's brand new in the package but I don't have a receipt

[azure topaz]

it simply doesnt matter homie

just run what makes your system look good and not like a crackhead had his way with it

[young tiger]

and idk how strict they are about RMA with receiptless ram

[grizzled frost]

such a good album, but so hard to visually identify

[drowsy isle]

Are you able to contact that person?

[azure topaz]

i had to zoom in fr 😭

[drowsy isle]

Ask them for a gift receipt even but unlikely

[young tiger]

Nah, idk if G skill cares as much though

[azure topaz]

its unlikely ram dies if its already working

[chrome ether]

hell id kill to have another 16gb ram

[grizzled frost]

they used gloss black, and gloss very dark grey

[azure topaz]

its generally a defective or not scenario

[grizzled frost]

mhm

[azure topaz]

if it works it will proceed to work for many years

[grizzled frost]

if ram works, it works for years and years before it even might have an issue with degradation

[azure topaz]

if it doesnt work it will be pretty evident

[chrome ether]

ive been thinking about upgrading from my 3700x to a 12700kf

[azure topaz]

not a slow burn thing

[grizzled frost]

you either have issues within 24 hours, or within 10 years

not much inbetween

[azure topaz]

yah

not unless youre manually setting things and yknow actually ocing but

few and far between

[grizzled frost]

if you’re just gonna set XMP/EXPO and never touch it again, then the above applies

[young tiger]

Yeah I mean generally I would think ram if it doesn't have issues initially really won't, but with my luck I would have issues not be able to RMA it and have to buy an expensive kit of ram or have a non working pc

[grizzled frost]

and that is what the vast majority of people should be doing

[grizzled frost]

it’s not a matter of luck, companies either have good RMA policies or they don’t

[young tiger]

I'm talking about with my luck my ram would have issues after initially not having any and then they wouldn't approve an RMA becuase I don't have a receipt

[drowsy isle]

Exactly, the rgb on the kit could have issues before the ram kit itself I had it happen on an old Corsair kit. Had it rmaed and they covered for it lmao

[azure topaz]

ram rgb is so incredibly hated within my own heart

[grizzled frost]

vinyl corner with antique saw i restored myself for added flavor

[azure topaz]

absolute fire

[azure topaz]

why every rgb memory have to be controlled via different means

why 3/4 of the time it doesnt show up in orgb

[grizzled frost]

Got that saw from my middle school woodworking teacher after he retired some years ago, recently restored it

[azure topaz]

😭 shit pisses me off

[pine palm]

does someone know how to properly bypass waframe from PIA VPN

[grizzled frost]

can’t help you, it’s against discord TOS and thus server rules

[azure topaz]

the pfp frying me

[pine palm]

huh

[azure topaz]

profile badass tho

[pine palm]

since when is that against rules

im doing anything illegal am I

[grizzled frost]

bypass of any form is against the application’s ToS, and thus discord ToS

[pine palm]

HUH

[azure topaz]

cheating/exploiting another application is technically against tos

👍

[pine palm]

how is using a VPN cheating or exploiting

[south arrow]

[clear canyon]

teach me how to learn

[pine palm]

Lol

[azure topaz]

its that youre not allowed to

[clear canyon]

bypassing ban

[azure topaz]

and you want to bypass that limitation

[pine palm]

im trying not to use a VPN on a game......

im trying not to do something illegal

[azure topaz]

im confused on the question then

[grizzled frost]

VPNs don’t change the legality of anything

[azure topaz]

how to bypass warframe from pia meaning you dont want it to go thru pia and you want it to go thru your actual internet instead?

[pine palm]

here is the thing
Warframe is running on a VPn (Illegal)
Im trying to make it not run on the VPN

[azure topaz]

okay so turn off the vpn

[pine palm]

Yes

[formal sonnet]

https://helpdesk.privateinternetaccess.com/kb/articles/desktop-application-split-tunneling-feature

[azure topaz]

or read that thanks kira

[drowsy isle]

I just keep it on white or off, colorful lights are too distracting. Absolutely hate how most rgb strips have a blue value that's too overpowering and setting it at white ends up looking more blue.

[grizzled frost]

ah so it’s the opposite question as we all thought

[drowsy isle]

Tried lowering the blue value but ends up looking a lot dimmer

[pine palm]

that doesnt help cause its not that i dont know how to its that i cant figure out ehy its not working

[clear canyon]

[screams]

[azure topaz]

i just have mine set to red its just annoying to get there

gotta use some fuckass app

doesnt show up in any other lighting software

had other ram it was the same had to use their specific app

[pine palm]

I have made the VPn not work on warframe and Steam yet it doenst work

[azure topaz]

quite annoying i dislike it

[south arrow]

Signal rgb?

[azure topaz]

not sure

[grizzled frost]

tried etc eos?

[clear canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/miku-gif-18071422838039063626

[azure topaz]

i just recently swapped to signal

[south arrow]

Haven't had a set of g skill not work forem yet, 🍀 ❤️ . If you get bored

[thin bloom]

Okay now my pc has no display after swapping gpu's. I'm going to put the old gpu back in and see what happens

[azure topaz]

signal works with my keyboard so im hyped

[grizzled frost]

only sad part about vinyl is less bass on rock albums

[grizzled frost]

ddu?

[clear canyon]

did you put the display cable in the right port?

[azure topaz]

seems like no, also theyre dissing my motherboard

accusing me of having 4 slots

i think thats the razer motherboard

[thin bloom]

Yes. All 3 of my monitors are full plugged in

[thin bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/yap-yapper-yapping-what-huh-gif-17267607410251793922

[clear canyon]

is the pcie power plugged in

[thin bloom]

Yes

[clear canyon]

what is the gpu, new and old

[azure topaz]

the problem unironically could be coming from CSM being enabled/forced on his old as s motherboard

he has a 4th gen based system, new amd cards dont play well with CSM

and im saying new lightly

[woeful phoenix]

Whats the best gaming laptop that isnt dogshit for $500

[thin bloom]

Old rx470 new rx 5600 xt

[clear canyon]

ur not getting a good laptop for 500 lol

[clear canyon]

yeah you should be fine power wise

[woeful phoenix]

Acer Nitro 5s arent horrible and are around that

Although I would never use it

[azure topaz]

you answered your own question

[woeful phoenix]

Nah I didnt

[azure topaz]

y not

[south arrow]

[clear canyon]

you did lol

[azure topaz]

Z590 server

the lights in fact work

[clear canyon]

sweet, whatcha gonna use it for

[azure topaz]

same stuff as before

[clear canyon]

idk what it was before tbh

[azure topaz]

jellyfin+game serving+general home stuff

[clear canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-kaioken-saiyan-gif-24748293

[azure topaz]

3x4TB hdds in z1

[thin bloom]

I think I blew something on the board? It isn't booting with the old gpu. I forgot to turn off the power when switching gpu's....

[haughty compass]

Question. My dorm room has an Ethernet port I use for my PC that's locked at 150mbs. Is it possible to use an Ethernet hub to connect multiple things to it?

[azure topaz]

across the rooom with an old hdd on it

[clear canyon]

reset cmos

[azure topaz]

thats my first ever real motherboard btw

had it for 5 or 6 years now

[thin bloom]

Okay I will do that. Just got to find it

[clear canyon]

round, flat, battery

[azure topaz]

og cpu is long gone with the next board i bought but its nice to have this one

[thin bloom]

Oh that. I forgot it was called that. I was about to look up the boards manual

[sinful cobalt]

that guy is overlyconfident that what he says is 100% correct lol

[formal sonnet]

Contact your school's IT department. Technically, you could connect a switch or router, however, this may immediately disable the port and flag your room as a security risk, which may get you in trouble with the school.

[thin bloom]

Hopefully the com reset works. The rx 5600 xt seems to work. Fans spin good the back plate gets hot

[grizzled frost]

when it comes to entities with the power to drastically affect your life, ask for permission before you do stuff

(the college)

[thin bloom]

I have a question for you @chrome ether . Since you don't like the design of the rx 56000 xt I got what do you think of the rx 470 here?

[chrome ether]

thats worse

[grizzled frost]

@azure topaz just ordered another vinyl too, the hellbilly deluxe album

[thin bloom]

It's missing a few screws

[chrome ether]

did you have to ping me to show this horrible thing

[thin bloom]

Yes

[chrome ether]

please piss off its 3am im trying to sleep

[thin bloom]

It's 6 pm for me. sorry I didn't know it was 3 am for you

[grizzled frost]

then turn off discord notifs lol

[thin bloom]

I see your in the UK. How I know this because i have UK time saved on my phones clock

[formal sonnet]

This. 110% this. Devices support time-based notifications. It's best to configure them as desired.

[grizzled frost]

i get zero device notifications from discord to begin with, nothing on this app is that important

[azure topaz]

same

[grizzled frost]

any notification can wait the 8 hours for me to wake up and check my phone again

[azure topaz]

you mean NOTHING

you should flop yourself NOW

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-awesome-mario-twerking-gif-23644561

[thin bloom]

I have my phones notification sounds off

[grizzled frost]

it’s not some edgelord thing, i just genuinely don’t care enough

[azure topaz]

no i get it i was just joking

the only apps i have notis on for is messages and phone

[grizzled frost]

same

[azure topaz]

AND gmail

[woeful phoenix]

Imagine laying down and not having the self control to not pick up your phone because a discord notification

[grizzled frost]

email i get notifications just not on dnd

certain people will bypass my DND though

close family mostly

[formal sonnet]

Same. All alerts, notifications, and ringtone events have been set to silent since 2014 for me.

[grizzled frost]

if i get a phone call from my mother at 3am it’s probably worth answering right then

[azure topaz]

yeah prolly

[woeful phoenix]

What if your family calls you?

[formal sonnet]

My family doesn't call me because they know I don't answer phone calls. I receive multiple spam calls per week, sometimes per day, some of which display on Caller ID as spoofed numbers, so I do not answer my phone anymore. Ever. Period. If it's important, people can leave a voicemail message, or they can send a written message.

[grizzled frost]

my phone has been set to silent for the last decade

my work has started calling me twice so it will get through the dnd

might have to block their number (i’m not an on call worker)

there is not a single thing they can need from me that can’t wait till i work again

[grizzled frost]

if i get a call from anyone not in my contacts, it goes straight to voicemail

if you aren’t already in my contacts, you can wait till i see the voicemail

idk how people go about their lives checking every possible notification and answering every phone call

if i did that i’d never get off my phone

[sinful cobalt]

ive just overheard a rather… funny conversation

[grizzled frost]

do tell

[sinful cobalt]

p1:” why do you have audio on”
p2:”i play better with audio”
p2: “am i dead”
p1: “idk you tell me”
p1:”no im dead”

[formal sonnet]

Yep. If I did that, I'd never get anything done. Kind of like how one of my IT clients operates - they're almost always on their phone, leaving me to wonder when they actually make their money.

[grizzled frost]

“idk you tell me” is the funniest response ever

[plain cypress]

Having discord notifications turned on (for public servers) is crazy

[grizzled frost]

i love answering “are you awake” texts with “no”

[grizzled frost]

having discord notifications turned on at all is crazy

[plain cypress]

I have it for DMs

[sinful cobalt]

“Are you free?”
No I cost money

[grizzled frost]

i don’t, anyone that would ever need me urgently has my number, and it ain’t anyone i met on discord

[wheat torrent]

I have discord notifications for my dms and some public server channels

[thin bloom]

Damn how old is your phone?

[grizzled frost]

you can change your phone and keep the settings

i’ve moved from a iphone 5 to now an iphone 13 without ever having to set it up again

[plain cypress]

So since I am on Android and my gf and roommates are iOS, discord is a convenient way for us to all communicate whether we're on our phones or a pc

[thin bloom]

I don't know why but the rx 5600 xt draws 30 more wats than my old rx 470. I find it crazy a performance dif just by 30 more wats. I don't know what "Architecture" is. I'm guessing it's the heat pipes

[grizzled frost]

Fair enough, i do have some of my irl friends on discord for game chats, but usually we use messages as the primary form of communication, and switch to discord just while playing the game

[grizzled frost]

architecture is the design of the silicon on the chip itself

essentially the components inside the silicon have shrunk from 14nm to 7nm

[plain cypress]

Discord is just very convenient since it's fully cross platform

[grizzled frost]

(lots of nuance in there to be had, but you don’t really need to understand it)

[grizzled frost]

almost all the people i know irl use messages almost exclusively, so it would be a bother to get them to switch to discord

[plain cypress]

Convenient for PC use

Although I can use Google messages in a browsers on any platform

[ocean axle]

Discord is my primary form of communication

Outside of work that is

[plain cypress]

And now that apple supports rcs, it's a much better experience to text

[ocean axle]

Mostly because I can use it on my computers too

[grizzled frost]

i use my laptop whenever i’m not at my desktop, so i also can use messages from that since it’s a macbook

i use my desktop for mostly just gaming, and my mac for everything else

[plain cypress]

I barely use my personal laptops

[ocean axle]

Oh, you use iMessage

[grizzled frost]

Mhm

[ocean axle]

The apple exclusive bullshit

[plain cypress]

Okay is the apple app called messages or iMessage

[azure topaz]

messages

[grizzled frost]

Messages

[plain cypress]

What

[azure topaz]

imessage is the protocol

[plain cypress]

It's not called iMessage?

[azure topaz]

stupid idiot carter

[ocean axle]

The app is called messages, the service is iMessage

[plain cypress]

Has it ever been called iMessage 😭

[azure topaz]

what he said

no man its just messages

maybe on an ipad or imac or something

[ocean axle]

Anyway, I have macs, 5 of them, id prefer that number to be 0, but unfortunately I need some of them.

[formal sonnet]

Bought it last year. Apologies if it seemed like I've had the same phone since 2014; I should have clarified that I modify the notifications settings to be "silent" on every phone I've ever had.

[plain cypress]

Implying that iMacs run iMacOS whereas other Macs run regular macOS

[ocean axle]

Anything that is platform specific isn't a reasonable alternative, at least for me

I run primarily Linux, and also windows

iMessage works with neither

[azure topaz]

i mean old imacs certainly run a different os

[grizzled frost]

I mean i also can talk to any of my friends on android through messages, so what’s the problem

[azure topaz]

but you understood what i meant

[ocean axle]

Unless I have a Mac idling running air message, which I'd rather not

[azure topaz]

i just dont know what its called on an ipad or mac

[grizzled frost]

if i’m at my desktop and need to talk to my friends/family, my phone is always right there

[azure topaz]

could be called imessages on the platform that doesnt get cell support

[ocean axle]

that's probably using RCS, or SMS

[plain cypress]

Macs have been running OSX -> macOS for a long ass time bud

[sinful cobalt]

I have the silent mode on 24/7 anyway unless Im at workplace that needs active communication- Only have notifs enabled on whatsapp which is the primary communication channel

[grizzled frost]

RCS, but through the messages app

[azure topaz]

😭 i was using imac as a term for mac homie

[plain cypress]

iMac is a product line in the Mac family

Bring back the iBook, apple, you fucking cowards

[ocean axle]

Yea, id expect that now that apple supports RCS

[azure topaz]

they have since like ios 18 havent they

[grizzled frost]

I’ve had it for ages since i have the dev beta

yeah ios 18, yeah

was great being able to actually get read receipts and whatnot with my android friends before the rest of my IOS friends

[ocean axle]

I'd rather not have to switch devices, or be forced to use a mobile phone keyboard for everything

[plain cypress]

I am so surprised by how many adult ass adults I work with have call notifications set to max volume and DONT BOTHER CHANGING THAT during important meetings

[ocean axle]

They aren't really that good of devices to use, they're just portable

[grizzled frost]

i use discord on my phone mostly, mobile keyboards aren’t that bad

[plain cypress]

Like I am a disgusting individual that has ringer on at home, but whenever I'm not home, that shit is set to vibrate

[grizzled frost]

i wear an apple watch most of the time, so i get notifications there, no need for a ringer

[ocean axle]

Mobile keyboards suck, and are worse for anything that isnt just text

[grizzled frost]

correct, but rarely do i send anything other than basic text/images via messages

[ocean axle]

If you wanna enter numbers it can be ok, but anything that uses a bunch of symbols gets to be a giant pain really fucking quick

[thin bloom]

I wish I could use my gpu stand because i don't trust the screw holes from the case and i want to take weight of the pcie connection but this card isn't wide enough to sit on the rubber. Hope the base 3080 I'm going to eventually get be wide enough to use the support

[grizzled frost]

if it’s some complex message, it’s probably something i’d be better of emailing anyways

[plain cypress]

Outside of work the vast majority of my keyboard use is Gboard on android

[grizzled frost]

that tiny gpu doesn’t need a support anyways

i have a healthy split of keyboard use between a mac keyboard, standard windows keyboard, and an ETC EOS

[ocean axle]

You heard of meetings that should have been an email, not get ready for emails that should have been a slack/discord message

[plain cypress]

Although that new clicks keyboard is intriguing

And it's impulse buy territory

[plain cypress]

I wish we had slack

[grizzled frost]

i work retail, so messaging between associates is largely unnecessary

[plain cypress]

We use teams and well, sometimes an email is better than a teams message

[ocean axle]

That's because teams sucks

[grizzled frost]

teams deserves to rot in hell

[plain cypress]

Well aware

[grizzled frost]

i love how universal the hate for teams is

[formal sonnet]

Marimba Ringtone iNtEnSiFiEs at MAXIMUM volume!

[ocean axle]

I'm a software dev, I'm talking to other people on my team a lot

[plain cypress]

But I don't get to pick and choose so....yeah

Teams all day

[grizzled frost]

glad i don’t have to do that, i hate talking to people in a professional setting

[ocean axle]

"professional"

[plain cypress]

Lmao

[grizzled frost]

i’m perfectly fine at it, just find it mentally draining

[plain cypress]

I was gonna say, developer slack/discord is hardly professional

[ocean axle]

Like, I get paid, yes, but but it's not like I'm writing everything in the upmost of professional language

[frail sequoia]

Phone: 1 | wall: 0

[ocean axle]

I mean, FFS, my slack profile is the same character my Discord one is

[grizzled frost]

so anything short of “oi dickhead, you totally flubbed this” is kosher?

[formal sonnet]

Literally happened to me last week. I was asked to meet over Teams... to quite literally repeat exactly what I already wrote in my Teams response. At this point, I'm convinced people are either too lazy to read, or lack basic reading comprehension skills. Or - benefit of the doubt - maybe they have trouble with processing written words on a screen, similar to how I have Auditory processing disorder (APD) with verbal instruction. Us humans are fickle.

[plain cypress]

I have to use professional language when talking to Intel cause they pay us money

[grizzled frost]

maybe don’t throw your phone at a wall?

[ocean axle]

Even that can be

[grizzled frost]

i can say i have essentially said that same thing to my boss several times

[ocean axle]

Just know who you are talking to

[grizzled frost]

he’s aware he’s an asshat though, so it’s fine

[stable beacon]

i can't find the select box in file explorer after i reinstalled windows

[frail sequoia]

Well I’m not going back to a certain thing when I’m angry, I’m 6 months clean

[plain cypress]

Why are single quarts of oil so expensive

[grizzled frost]

so set down your phone like a reasonable human being?

[grizzled frost]

right click

[frail sequoia]

It’s not really a “set the phone down” issue

[grizzled frost]

everything is a “set the phone down” issue

[frail sequoia]

It’s more of an issue I’ve mostly sorted

[stable beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/maduro-oil-venezuela-usa-dsaf-gif-2469715474764689055

[ocean axle]

Basically just comes down to knowing who you are talking to

[grizzled frost]

you are carrying a potentially thousand dollar device, you give it the base level respect

[stable beacon]

now what

[plain cypress]

Speaking of multi thousand dollar devices

[ocean axle]

Most convos on slack for me are not professional

[azure topaz]

open

[plain cypress]

Rumors are Samsung is gonna do a wide screen foldable this year 😛
Time to start saving

[grizzled frost]

i’ve gotten used to all professional communication that isn’t spoken being via email, which carries with it the social norms of email

[azure topaz]

this is how you actually enable them

[ocean axle]

If it is, it's because I don't know the person I'm messaging, so can't assume that can interpret my form of sarcasm

Yea, email generally ends up being very professional, because email

Slack, slack is much closer to discord

[azure topaz]

i will fax one picture of a floppa

[stable beacon]

oh yeah i have the og ones i got with winaero tweaker

[grizzled frost]

usually when i email its related to my volunteer work as a lighting designer and tech crew member so its the exact opposite of theatre norms

[formal sonnet]

Are you talking about this setting? https://www.computerhope.com/tips/tip194.htm

[grizzled frost]

theatrical tech workers swear more than a sailor that just stubbed his toe

[azure topaz]

this is a goated setting tho

why its not the default who knows

[grizzled frost]

i find the ctrl/shift+click better

[azure topaz]

i dont

[grizzled frost]

cope

[azure topaz]

cause when you mess up or have a shitty office keyboard that misses inputs

[plain cypress]

I still have another computer to disassemble

[azure topaz]

and you just selected 20 things

[grizzled frost]

i still need to figure out why the IPMI on my 2u doesn’t want to work

[formal sonnet]

I'm with @grizzled frost - I prefer using CTRL or SHIFT, but to each their own. That's why it's a setting.

[sinful cobalt]

surprisingly most people Ive met dont clean their phones at all

[ocean axle]

yup, I'll also do that
Both in person and on slack

[grizzled frost]

whether or not they clean it isn’t the problem, them throwing it at the wall is the issue

[sinful cobalt]

I clean mine everyday, taking out the casing and doing a full one every Sunday

[sinful cobalt]

anger management problems or smth idk

[grizzled frost]

the amount of sexual innuendoes we manage to make on a minutely basis is insane

i can’t go 15 minutes without accidentally making an innuendo

[thin bloom]

I wonder how well I can run wreckfest 2 on my new gpu? I will look it up. Wait if I switch back to the 470 do I have to clean coms again? I'm thinking of putting the 470 back in and see how the game runs on the 470 at 1080p since last time I played it was 900p and only got below 30 fps on certain maps

[ocean axle]

I generally try and avoid that, because unfortunately that kind of thing, if overheard by the wrong person, can be an actual issue.

[plain cypress]

This is a choice

[grizzled frost]

in the setting i work in it’s not a problem

[ocean axle]

But, short of sexual things, almost anything goes

[grizzled frost]

at my day job, i stear quite clear of it

[clear canyon]

4x gt210, 1 for every monitor

[grizzled frost]

when you’re gluing, screwing, and nailing, the innuendos are just low hanging fruit

[sinful cobalt]

Main game in play: Roblox, Minecraft, Valorant, League, TFT, CS2

[stable beacon]

i tried that and it didn't work for some reason

[clear canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/garen-mog-garen-garen-mew-league-of-legends-meme-gif-14777060859658316031

[sinful cobalt]

idk who that is

[clear canyon]

garen from league

[haughty compass]

Dam I see. Will do

[ocean axle]

Unless it's related to the game, there are succubi in it, so, it's not a perfectly SFW game, and the workplace reflects that

[plain cypress]

Running your 5080 at x8 to improve the performance

(I mean it's probably fine but like the 5060ti is such a waste of money)

[grizzled frost]

ah that kind of software engineering

[ocean axle]

Yea, I'm a game dev, I've mentioned that before

[formal sonnet]

Seems to work for me, both when icons are set to Extra Large and in Detailed or List view.

[azure topaz]

said it like it was frowned upon or like racist or something damn 😭

"oh...THAT kind of software engineering"

[ocean axle]

The funny part is, the 5080 is potentially doing the compositing anyway

[jolly moth]

how much faster (excluding ray tracing and all the ai upscaling and shit I dont use in games) is a 5070 vs a 4070 super and a 3070

[ocean axle]

Afaik, some display managers will use the primary to render a covers all monitors image, and then that gets split up to each one

So, 5080 renders all 4, sends 3 to 5060ti, which then outputs them

[ocean axle]

Go look at the toms hardware GPU hierarchy

[jolly moth]

k thnx

[thin bloom]

Okay so the gpu should run the game at high or ultra settings while my 470 can only run the game at the lowest settings

[ocean axle]

It'll have averaged out benchmark numbers for those cards, though you may need to look at both the new and slightly older ones to get the 3070 and 5070 both

[plain cypress]

Anything accelerated would be on the 5080

Unless they've gone through the windows gpu scheduler and manually set most non game apps to 5060ti?

[sinful cobalt]

albert einstein in the room

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-27372700

[ocean axle]

Oh, besides that, I mean the actual window compositing, ie: rendering the OS itself

Something has to run that, and it's probably the main GPU

[plain cypress]

Oh, that too

[sinful cobalt]

“I bought a 5090 for each monitor”

[plain cypress]

Next amd ultimate tech upgrade

[clear canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/albert-flamingo-roblox-worm-ai-gif-7469993107523261606

OHhhhh, this gif...

[grizzled frost]

me forgor

[plain cypress]

Can you fucking not

[sinful cobalt]

“You dare use my own spell against me?”

The next AMD ultimate tech upgrade will comprise solely of RAM

[plain cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/formula1-f1-i-am-stupid-stupid-gif-15825263

[grizzled frost]

just 2 kits too

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/love-languages-gif-9096525883557511879

[clear canyon]

"For todays $5000 tech upgrade, Luke has purchased a balling ram kit, thats right! 8Gb of ddr 4, 2666mhz!!!"

[sinful cobalt]

ferrari leaked testing of the SF-26

[swift stream]

omg great face reveal

[clear canyon]

it gets really gross lmao

[swift stream]

its rlly pretty frfr

[swift stream]

i think i might regret this

[ocean axle]

Yes

[clear canyon]

you will. dont get it

[woeful phoenix]

Imagine buying a $200 cooler that gets mogged by a sub $50 air cooler

[azure topaz]

wahts with half of tc1 being braindead purchasing wise

200$ webcams and aios with screens on them

[proper gull]

Half? Lol

[woeful phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1182043432236109855/1435304036541923329/nk-image-edit-caption-j8u1fj54.gif

[azure topaz]

fair point

[ocean axle]

you should see the shit I buy

[azure topaz]

code for "i am stupid"

you can get a 100$ thermalright aio with a screen on it

[steel umbra]

yes it doesn’t matter for mid range cpus but if your cpu is like 300w the aio is going to be better

[ocean axle]

I just bought SLI 3090s

That's not a joke, I actually did

[sinful cobalt]

tell me what this does that doesnt get its ass smoked by like 240mm atmos 1 and 2

[azure topaz]

im not even dissing the screen im dissing yalls random need for buying "name brand" hardware

theyre all chinese or taiwan based companies get real, there is no name brand

[woeful phoenix]

False

[sinful cobalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193840159358976/1429172046046433390/IMG_7512.gif

[swift stream]

the black version is actually reasonably priced

[ocean axle]

Just get a montech one

[steel umbra]

it’s true, feel free to provide benchmarks

[ocean axle]

Probably comes in white for $50

[sinful cobalt]

i am stupid

[swift stream]

i bought into asus ecosystem

[woeful phoenix]

Nah just false

[azure topaz]

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Cooling-2150RPM-LGA1700-Resolution/dp/B0DNJZZ23D/

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Mjolnir-Magnetic-Detachable-Resolution/dp/B0DK76P9BT/

[sinful cobalt]

i see

[woeful phoenix]

unless that b580 is for encoding or something than thats true

[steel umbra]

it is not

[sinful cobalt]

its for playing around with intel stuff

That system literally doesnt seriously game at all

Its been on excel and word for the past year

[swift stream]

like my pc needs it 😛

[sinful cobalt]

imagine brand loyalty smh

[steel umbra]

scary stare

[ocean axle]

I have an a770, 7900xtx, 9070xt, and multiple 3090s

Also a b580

[swift stream]

i actually got my mobo for 190 USD and looks fly

[sinful cobalt]

I had a 9070XT but the number of driver timeouts I kept getting was giving me a headache, pair it with the fact it couldnt run FH4 without heavy stuttering was ass

[azure topaz]

lol

sounds like one of my homies issues with a 9060xt

[plain cypress]

Sell it all for a hundred A310

[ocean axle]

I haven't had driver issues with my 9070xt, but I use it with Linux

[sinful cobalt]

Like sure driver timeouts you could justify I was doing stupid shit but like…. really? Had to reinstall when the drivers decide to shit themselves entirely

[steel umbra]

well, ryujin does use more well documented asetek pumps unlike most thermaltalright aios

[plain cypress]

I do want to try a real AMD card still

I've only used AMD APU

[azure topaz]

pretty sure those use asetek pumps tho

the earlier models they made used their own pump

[swift stream]

ik right

[ocean axle]

Just buy one

[steel umbra]

thermalright has it’s own pumps

[plain cypress]

I don't waste money anymore

[azure topaz]

it is not worth it

[swift stream]

i mean it does use a 8th gen asetek pump and has magnetic daisy chain fans

[sinful cobalt]

50 series on launch was ass sure but now its completely stable for me, 9070xt was like “Hey, you’re stupid, heres a driver timeout”
Then in December heard people having issues with drivers, p’sure fixed now

[plain cypress]

Not that Radeon is wasting money

[ocean axle]

:xdoubt:

[steel umbra]

thermalright doesn’t use asetek at least in 50% of their aios as far as i know

[plain cypress]

It's buying a GPU I don't need is wasting money

[steel umbra]

they use their own

[plain cypress]

Okay shuuuush

[jolly moth]

1600 usd - overpriced?

[woeful phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-chase-cloudy-with-a-chance-of-meatballs-chicken-brent-food-animated-gif-16241285

[plain cypress]

We're gonna ignore my LEGO inventory

[swift stream]

i already have a thermaltake psu 😔

[sinful cobalt]

Im gonna waste my money again

Later in March for a 265K or a 270K B860I

[ocean axle]

I mean, it's got RAM, so there's that

[swift stream]

where tf did you get your ram

[steel umbra]

thermalsteal

[azure topaz]

allat k sku for a b860i board

[latent gull]

If you have to inventory your legos you have a problem

[ocean axle]

Thermalright and thermaltake are two different companies

[plain cypress]

The LEGO app makes it so easy to keep track of all my sets

[swift stream]

my psu cost 90usd but it was 750w white and modular

[jolly moth]

theres hardly any computers on marketplace atm, theyre all selling for the ludicrous market pricing atm and slowly less and less are for sale

[sinful cobalt]

not sure if I wanna spend $300 more on a Z890I with like max mem speed going from 9066 to 9200

[azure topaz]

i buy used power supplies

[steel umbra]

that sounds like gf a3

[ocean axle]

Do I have a problem if I need to inventory my GPU?

[jolly moth]

kinda hoping to get in and actually get a pc before I cant afford any of them for another 5 years

[south arrow]

No rgrts

[azure topaz]

not a one

i bought new ones for machines that arent mine

[latent gull]

Depends on how much disposable income is left :p

[south arrow]

Ofc ofc

[ocean axle]

Enough

[azure topaz]

but my own machine has a like 80 or something dollar msi 1000w

[latent gull]

Then nope

[azure topaz]

server has my 64$ EVGA 1300 G2

[swift stream]

for reference i got my mobo 100 USD off 🤓

[ocean axle]

Ive got an $80 1600g2

[azure topaz]

i paid 329 for my board

[ocean axle]

Or was it $70?

I bought that thing a long time ago now

[azure topaz]

new ish, has the 12vhpwr

[azure topaz]

exactly, theyre tanks. love em

plug em in and draw power theyll be fine

[ocean axle]

Yee, I love my superflower leadex 1 supplies

[sinful cobalt]

I can throw F tier gigabyte PSUs at people

[swift stream]

its in this picture, but uses 14 + 2 + 2 and no tool nvme

[ocean axle]

I even got myself a 1600 titanium (superflower branded)

[azure topaz]

i go to best buy and buy the cheapest or best deal on whatever is not a bomb™

[azure topaz]

@gentle kestrel

i still yearn for this

[plain cypress]

Half the built sets (what's not shown are all the botanicals, and some of my childhood sets)
And here's the unbuilt sets (what's not shown is the half a home depot cardboard box of childhood LEGO that I currently have no place to put)

[azure topaz]

vrm phase count does not matter

[steel umbra]

you can’t buy those, i recommend lian li

[azure topaz]

dont buy boards based of vrm phase count, buy based off expansion slots and looks

[sinful cobalt]

SP850 V1 would like to have a word with you

[azure topaz]

even if youre overclocking the cpu

[steel umbra]

melting is good tho

especially when it’s a power supply

[ocean axle]

At least it's displayed, most of my waifu figures aren't

[steel umbra]

you can still probably find the sp850 at some retailers

the good melting one

it melts good therefore good

[sinful cobalt]

clunky

[jolly moth]

hmm this looks pretty good

[swift stream]

it also have pcie 5.0, 4 nvme slots below c drive. and quick gpu release by wiggiling it off 🥶

[plain cypress]

I need more shelves

But a lot of the remaining sets are rather large

[azure topaz]

dont like that style of quick release but seems like you got an ok deal

but yeah dont buy based off vrms

it just doesnt matter today, as long as theres a heatsink the board is of suitable quality

[swift stream]

2 sata and 256 gb of ddr5 ram support and AM5

[azure topaz]

dont like am5

[jolly moth]

those glass front panels tho, dont really love them

wonder if I can get a mesh front for cheap

[ocean axle]

I have a 1:1 (155cm), I'm very aware of the large problem

[swift stream]

my metal on my case warped on my backplate clips so now i have this little gap in my backplate but no exposed wires (of the case)

[latent gull]

I love the horizon zero dawn one, and the Saturn V is pretty clean too

[azure topaz]

yo mamma

[sinful cobalt]

midrange am5 lowk sucks, if its not the cheapest entry point into DDR5 or X3D then arrowlake’s pretty good

[plain cypress]

Okay I have some complaints
There is a LEGO horizon game
Why aren't there more horizon LEGO sets???

[ocean axle]

arrow to the knee

[swift stream]

on fortnite

[latent gull]

I think it would be hilarious to get one of the horizon giraffes and a uss enterprise and replace the head with the saucer

[plain cypress]

Tallneck you heathen

[latent gull]

Giraffe.

[plain cypress]

The enterprise they chose is the ugly one, unfortunately

[swift stream]

who uses firefox plainly because of ublock orgin support

[ocean axle]

USS, or USSS?

[plain cypress]

Edge supports UBO and still actually works because chromium

[latent gull]

The D?

[swift stream]

i use zen browser with sine

[ocean axle]

USS Enterprise and USSS Enterprise are both a thing