tech-chat-1

[tall sandal]

It instantly spikes very severe temp

[fickle valley]

those dont have any cooling

[tidal geyser]

only apple can even use it

[tall sandal]

it’s bad thermals

[pure trellis]

Thanks Apple

[woeful phoenix]

What are you doing where youre pinning the CPU for long periods of time? No laptop matches macbooks in performance, battery life, performance on battery and size factor

[tall sandal]

or not even that, just too much power in a small chassis

[tidal geyser]

not really when you consider the work they are meant to do

[tall sandal]

Yes they have low idle temps

[tidal geyser]

wut

[tall sandal]

And the chassis are cool, as its aluminium. It matches ambient temp

But on load M4 Max really gets hot, that’s how it is

The design of the chip

[tidal geyser]

so watching youtube is that bad for it?

[pure trellis]

100C heater won't melt aluminium

[tall sandal]

cinebench test

[pure trellis]

That's called torture test

[tall sandal]

This guy tested cinebench on m4 max

[pure trellis]

Not power virus get,but close enough

[tall sandal]

Gaming laptops don’t reach such temps usually

[woeful phoenix]

Now show a real fucking use case lmao

[tall sandal]

most of them are in the 80s under load.

[tall sandal]

there is little data

I couldn’t find much, that’s all I found so far

[fickle valley]

nuh uh

[woeful phoenix]

Thats because gaming laptops fucking blow are triple the size and shit the bed when not hooked up to an outlet lol

[tall sandal]

Few people do thermal testing on the M4 Max unlike gaming laptops

[woeful phoenix]

Im asking you what youre going to use the laptop for

[tall sandal]

man you really hate gaming laptops

[pure trellis]

Apple doesn't market their laptops as gaming laptop,but as capable of gaming

[tidal geyser]

litteraly no actual reason to do it

[tall sandal]

Some gaming on the side I would like to do

I want something whenever I want to do whatever I want.

[woeful phoenix]

Macbook destroys than

[tall sandal]

Basically a portable desktop type laptop. What I really want is a desktop

[tidal geyser]

random cinabench test on the go

[tall sandal]

But my parents don’t allow me, cuz they are worried about transportation

[tall sandal]

gaming

Having fun etc

[woeful phoenix]

You said for studies. now gaming

[tall sandal]

On the side gaming

[tidal geyser]

ye im just gonna get a pantherlake

[woeful phoenix]

I had a pro art laptop, you cant beat it and it was dogshit.

[tall sandal]

Not much. Main purpose is just generally just regular used

[tall sandal]

That’s a great laptop isn’t it

[fickle valley]

assus

[tall sandal]

Asus pro art P16

It looks very premium

[kindred halo]

Any laptop that doesn't have a trackbutton is an automatic disqualification for me tbh

[tall sandal]

Like a MacBook, which I love the physical design of

[fickle valley]

thinkpad ftw

i would really like a p1 lol

[tall sandal]

bro has something against gaming laptops

[woeful phoenix]

So now instead of just a hot laptop youll have a hot loud, useless off power laptop

[kindred halo]

Lenovo has disappointed me alot with the fact that lots of their modern E and even T ThinkPads still have 45% NTSC screens on half their models

[tall sandal]

I love them. They look amazing. Performance is very good

Displays also decent. Build quality can be okay.

[woeful phoenix]

Bros trolling

[tall sandal]

I’m serious.

[fickle valley]

and you are taking the bait lol

[tall sandal]

It’s the best for me as I can’t use a desktop.

[kindred halo]

Some gaming laptops are decent

[tall sandal]

Exactly

[fickle valley]

all laptops have a pourpose

[tidal geyser]

all plastic design

[tall sandal]

Not all are good, some are horrible of course

[woeful phoenix]

The ones that are $3000, even those have shit sustained performance

[tall sandal]

This is mine, the design isn’t the best

[fickle valley]

i really like the alienwares

[tall sandal]

This was budget, only i7 12650H and RTX 4060

[tall sandal]

16Gb ram

[tidal geyser]

hinges probs gonna break before the motherboard maybe

[tidal geyser]

why did that meme not use 18"

[fickle valley]

screwed trough the motherboard

[tall sandal]

the hinges are actually feel nice on this

Never game me a problem

[woeful phoenix]

Of course they will thats why you always see people with headless gaming laptops

[kindred halo]

Anyway back to ThinkPads

[fickle valley]

meanwhile apple has 16 inch macbooks

[tidal geyser]

sick 2 in 1 deal

[tall sandal]

Why would the motherboard be abnormal

[tidal geyser]

feel nice 😐

[woeful phoenix]

13 inch mogs

[tidal geyser]

headless msi laptops

[tall sandal]

Unless it’s warped, but if anything is warped it would be the cold plate

[fickle ivy]

This bag now has everything I need for astrophotography

[tall sandal]

Specs are also not the best

It’s older hardware.

[tidal geyser]

that cpu is a pain

[fickle valley]

alienware has put up decent laptops recetly

[tall sandal]

Yea fr

[fickle valley]

i mean 1 year ago

[tall sandal]

The performance isn’t the best

[fickle valley]

lenovo kinda missed the ball

[tall sandal]

intrinsically

The graphics card on this laptop is also power limited

[tidal geyser]

really gonna be fun when i get to test my 12th gen OLED laptop

[tall sandal]

By the manufacturer, so it can’t even reach its full potential

You see all the problems with this laptop right? I did no research before buying it

I was in a rush then. You now see why I’m saving for a new one

[woeful phoenix]

Thats the exact same problems as EVERY gaming laptop

[tall sandal]

No this one specifically

[tidal geyser]

why do i keep calling it a gaming laptop

[fickle valley]

bro stop capping

[tall sandal]

Well then what laptop do you recommend?

[tidal geyser]

there is a reason i want me a panther lake laptop

[tall sandal]

What about dell pro max or whatever

Is that good

[tidal geyser]

xps

[woeful phoenix]

I already told you.

[fickle valley]

its dell premium or something

[tall sandal]

I don’t care how it looks, it just needs to have very high performance

[tidal geyser]

the latest panther lake laptops look amazing

[tall sandal]

Gaming laptop like specs

[tidal geyser]

last year but they brought back the xps

[woeful phoenix]

You will not get high performance.

[tall sandal]

They do

[tidal geyser]

panther lake 12xe has around 4050m performance

[tall sandal]

ASUS ROG Strix g16 has Intel core ultra 275HX

[woeful phoenix]

You will get a gaming laptop that plays at 60 fps for 30 seconds than either dies or throttles

[tall sandal]

Super fast CPU

[fickle valley]

vro has no idea what he is talking about

[tall sandal]

Fr man

[opal gull]

Hey, out of curiosity, which of the two hardware monitors should I trust more?

• HWiNFO
• HWMonitor

Both of them are giving me two almost different readings (temps and watts, to be precise)

[woeful phoenix]

Pipe down lil pup noones talking to you

[fickle valley]

boo hoo

[tall sandal]

HWinfo is better

[woeful phoenix]

Hwinfo

[fickle valley]

hwinfo is very useful

[tall sandal]

Salem tech guy uses it

[opal gull]

Alrighty, thankies!

[tall sandal]

I love HWinfo

Since I am very serious about thermals.

[fickle valley]

look very promising

[pure trellis]

What paid version of HWinfo gives?

[woeful phoenix]

Very serious lol

[tall sandal]

Fr

[woeful phoenix]

Bros talking about cinebench thermals lol

[tidal geyser]

and you will not have that gaming laptop issue of the performance dropping by over half the instant your not right next to a power outlet

[tall sandal]

It’s very important.

[tall sandal]

I always use my laptop plugged in.

Always on my desk.

I never want it to be moved.

[tidal geyser]

what is the point of a laptop then

[opal gull]

If thats the case, can you tell me if having the maximum temp of 80C for a Intel Core i-5960X is an alright temp when under load?

[tall sandal]

Parents

[tidal geyser]

SO GET A DESKTOP

[tall sandal]

That’s it.

[woeful phoenix]

You gotta be trolling

[tidal geyser]

mine were split too, i still moved a 15kg pc every week

[tall sandal]

They won’t allow. I’m serious. They say after I finish uni and will move how can I transport it

We every year for months travel also

[tidal geyser]

with your hands and feet

[tall sandal]

To visit family.

[woeful phoenix]

Build a mini itx

[tidal geyser]

i have a mini-itx case i can fit in my backpack

[tall sandal]

Specs?

[fickle valley]

lol that looks nice

[tall sandal]

It could be an option, my parents don’t know these even exist

They are so bad with tech. They have zero interest

[woeful phoenix]

5060, 12600k

[tidal geyser]

LP gpus are never worth it

[tall sandal]

Wow

[fickle ivy]

Should I buy a 55-200mm lens or a 70-300mm lens?

[tall sandal]

This is something I may look into

[woeful phoenix]

You right I was just showing they can be small

[tall sandal]

Is the thermals good?

[fickle valley]

barely

[tall sandal]

The thing is these days AIOs are used frequently

I would like my desktop to have an AIO, if I had one

[woeful phoenix]

This is how I know you know nothing about computers

AIOs are good for one thing

Dying in 3-5 years. Thats it

[tall sandal]

You can replace them

[tidal geyser]

are they?

[tidal geyser]

there are people still using like 20 year old air coolers

[tall sandal]

Is the preformance on AIOs better then?

[woeful phoenix]

Theyre not better performing than air coolers

[woeful phoenix]

No.

[tidal geyser]

not with any modern cpu

[tall sandal]

I see like most builds on YouTube using them

[tidal geyser]

key word youtube

the only reason is clicks

[tall sandal]

are they not reliable?

[tidal geyser]

they are not

[tall sandal]

They say on YouTube it is

ZZT guy

[tidal geyser]

rip

[tall sandal]

Zack’s tech turf. But idk I think he’s trying to sell something

[tidal geyser]

ZTT is well known to be horrible, he tells people to use bottleneck calculators and such

[tall sandal]

So can’t trust everything he says

[tall sandal]

He seems cool, like he knows what he’s doing

[formal sonnet]

When I asked myself this same question for a lens for my Canon Rebel T1i ~15 years ago, I settled on the 55-250mm IS USM lens because of image stabilization for the price, and the amount of vignetting close to the 300mm end of the 75-300mm lens was atrocious. (To be fair, this is a common theme among many low-end / cheap lenses.)
https://shop.canon.ca/en_ca/p/ef-s-55-250mm-f-4-5-6-is-stm?color=Black&type=New

[tall sandal]

Has built many pcs

Gives good advice it feels.

[fickle valley]

i have never liked aios

[tidal geyser]

200$ pcparts lists and i think that much again to try and convince parents to buy their children a gaming pc

[woeful phoenix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PDYJI0W6Gk

9800x3d and 5090

[tall sandal]

Yea he does that lmao

[tidal geyser]

5090 founders is a pain in the ass to find

[tall sandal]

I mean he is a dad himself, it’s kinda like a thing on his channel to do that

[woeful phoenix]

I mean of course but you can use any founders

[tall sandal]

What’s the difference between founders edition and regular 5090

I always wondered honestly

[tidal geyser]

there is no regular

well in that size

[tidal geyser]

i do not believe there is a card as small as the founders

[south arrow]

Secretly snail

[tidal geyser]

also founders is nvidia only

[tall sandal]

ahh, so it’s directly made by Nvidia, the case of the GPU?

[woeful phoenix]

PNY slim galax has dual slots

[fickle ivy]

I'm looking at a used canon 55-200 for $100

[tall sandal]

like other manufacturers make GPUs, the 5090 chip is the same in them obviously

[tidal geyser]

eh makes sense, was gonna say PNY makes the founders

[tall sandal]

or any GPU for that matter, like MSI makes them, gigabyte etc

[tidal geyser]

ofc but the pcb and cooler is not

and nvidia is one of the only to really use LM

[tall sandal]

Also GPU sag

There is brackets right

I hate when gaming pcs have GPU sag, just makes me uneasy

[woeful phoenix]

GPU sag doesnt exist for like 90% of GPUs. Especially smaller ones that you would put in an ITX build

[tall sandal]

And it like wiggles around when the case is moved.

[fickle valley]

optimum has numerous itx builds with liquid cooling

[tall sandal]

There can be a bracket

[woeful phoenix]

What does that change?

[tall sandal]

I’ve seen it. It holds it in place

[tidal geyser]

that looks a whole lot bigger than a founders

[grizzled nova]

Optimums resin 3d printing video was bad
He had no protections and just used the resin printer in his house
No gloves, respirator, face shielding, anything

[woeful phoenix]

Theyre all 2 slot. No idea the length in mm

[tall sandal]

Damm

man I wish I had these

would be amazing, could play whatever game I want

[tidal geyser]

well das a big issue in these small builds

[fickle valley]

just saying

[tall sandal]

right now lmao I don’t even have enough storage on my laptop to play games

I got 100gb only left, I’ve used like 400

[tall sandal]

I just do work on it

[woeful phoenix]

Theyre smaller than the FE cards

FE 5080 is 304mm

[fickle valley]

you can build a very minimalistic itx build that fits in a backpack

monitor pc and peripherals

[left dove]

or just buy a really nice laptop

[woeful phoenix]

Theyre thicker than the FE's by 20mm, still dual slot.

[fickle valley]

but it will cost a lot of money

[woeful phoenix]

Laptops are dogshit

[fickle valley]

exactly

[tidal geyser]

wut

do you just sit inside all day

[woeful phoenix]

I love this case

[woeful phoenix]

Gaming laptops are dogshit. Macbooks are the only laptops worth buying

[left dove]

tell that to my zephyrus g14 w/ a 5070ti and 4tb nvme

[woeful phoenix]

The 5070ti thats as fast as a desktop 5060? Ok

[left dove]

ok and its still 50 series and has dlss nerd

[fickle valley]

says the guy that has never touched a gaming laptop

[tidal geyser]

but half the size of the monitor you would be using with that desktop

[tall sandal]

Guys I just realised something

[woeful phoenix]

Backtracking

[tall sandal]

I have so much Lego, I lost interest. I barely use it

[tall sandal]

I can sell it and save up

[tidal geyser]

gaming laptops suck

[woeful phoenix]

I owned razer. Its just as shit

[tall sandal]

Man omg

[left dove]

like my home tower has a desktop 5070ti and a 9700x that laptop is just for when I'm not home lmao

[tidal geyser]

but have their reasons

[fickle valley]

bravo

[left dove]

nah dude you're just inexperienced

[fickle valley]

you owned the shittiest premium brand

[woeful phoenix]

Razer, Asus pro art, theyre all shit.

[left dove]

ok baby boy

[fickle valley]

sorry

2 of the shittiest brands

[tidal geyser]

razer is sad as they only focus on being as thin as possible at the cost of everything else while still not really being thin

[woeful phoenix]

Lil pup mad that the $2500 laptop he bought gets mogged by a $400 GPU

[tidal geyser]

wut

your talking about a device with a screen keyboard and you know all the other parts vs just a gpu

[fickle valley]

😂

[left dove]

i have a literal desktop thats better than my laptop like do you have a missing frontal lobe

[tidal geyser]

im gonna sell my 7800X3D and 7900 XTX desktop for a igpu laptop

[woeful phoenix]

Gotta love when the 5070 ti gets its shit kicked in by the desktop 5070

[left dove]

"wuhh your mobile gpu is not as good as desktop of same model" no shit you fucking monkey that was never my point

keep trying to move the goalposts though maybe you'll throw out your back and fall into a ditch instead

[empty quartz]

The only time they were ever as good as the desktop variant was with pascal

[left dove]

actually just do that ditch part so you can get buried you fucking nerd

[woeful phoenix]

Bro loses to a 2080 super 💀

[fickle valley]

absolute banger were those

[tidal geyser]

how much power

[fickle valley]

bro shut the fuck up

[woeful phoenix]

110w

[tidal geyser]

its pretty clear when someone does not understand how mobile hardware works

[empty quartz]

You’re being problematic

[tidal geyser]

how do you know that test was at 110w

[woeful phoenix]

dynamic 110w

[tidal geyser]

what laptop was that test done on

[woeful phoenix]

80w base

[fickle valley]

bro is compairing a 250w laptop to a 350w card alone

[left dove]

actual rartation

[woeful phoenix]

By pointing out facts? Uh oh

[left dove]

"guys i understand pc im so sarmt"

[empty quartz]

@woeful phoenix i recommend you shut up before this gets worse

[latent gull]

dudes also comparing the price of a laptop altogether to a singular piece of desktop hardware

[left dove]

yeah like what is his point even

[fickle valley]

that laptops are worse and pc parts are better

holy cope

[woeful phoenix]

I recommend you pipe down while we continue talking

[left dove]

this is like some ztt fart-huffing logic on display rn

solara shut the fuck up lmao

[empty quartz]

Watch your fucking tone

[woeful phoenix]

<@&750150305383186585>s How many times has this guy told me to shut the fuck up? Told me to fall in a ditch and ask if im missing my frontal lobe? Surely this is breaking rule 2

[left dove]

You're actually just fucking butthurt because you've been proven incorrect and now you just wanna fight to try and show how cool you are

bestie its not working go eat a cheeseburger and sit down

[latent gull]

your screen and battery and mobo and cpu and gpu costs more than just my gpu alone >:)

[trim schooner]

whys my pc running fortnite at only 112 fps when its supposed to be much higher

[woeful phoenix]

Can I ask how Ive been proven incorrect? What point exactly?

[woeful phoenix]

What specs? and res

[fickle valley]

you cant compare a laptop to a desktop part

for 1 one

[woeful phoenix]

I just did

[latent gull]

https://tenor.com/view/mald-radar-friend-green-cat-gif-12629403484668851606

[left dove]

Bro I never once said that my mobile gpu is beating a desktop, I chimed in w/ my laptop specs because some laptops aren't actually bad if you have money

[woeful phoenix]

So does techpowerup

[fickle valley]

you are compairing a 350w gpu to a 250w system

[tidal geyser]

techpowerup is HORRIBLE for this

[fickle valley]

for second

[woeful phoenix]

$2500 laptop btw.

[left dove]

ok and

[woeful phoenix]

I said gaming laptops suck, proved my point. Thats it

[fickle valley]

only the screen is 300 usd idiot

[left dove]

besite's butthurt because he's broke lmao

[tidal geyser]

there are 5080s that cost 2-3x what other ones cost it does not mean it becomes better

[latent gull]

you didint prove your point, youve just said theyre more expensive than the equivalent desktop hardware and then claimed this makes you the smarted man on the face of the planet. this feels like a reddit conversation

[fickle valley]

check the price of a 2k 16:10 oled screen

the charger is 100 usd for a 250w

that is 400 usd right there

please shut up

[trim schooner]

1080p, 9070xt, 5 7600x3d

[tidal geyser]

native RT

[random gyro]

would u guys rather get meta rayban glasses or apple vision pro

[true drift]

💀

[woeful phoenix]

Niether, wait for actual good smart glasses from google/ android this year.

AVP and meta raybans arent even on the same level anyways

[tidal geyser]

i do not trust their source

[woeful phoenix]

Thats like asking if I should get a ford focus or maserati

[true drift]

eh neither do i

[muted spindle]

hello what graphic card should i get for 280$?

[fickle valley]

who buys maserati lol

out of all sedans maserati

[tidal geyser]

b580

[clear canyon]

gt210!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D

[tidal geyser]

@woeful phoenix what

[opal plover]

My computer for some reason keeps crashing

[woeful phoenix]

RTX 3080

[tidal geyser]

are you mad

[woeful phoenix]

Why tf you so far bro

[clear canyon]

a 3080 for 280???

[muted spindle]

ty

[woeful phoenix]

What about it?

[opal plover]

First it's watchdog error and next is Nonpage And now it's memory management

[tidal geyser]

are you scared of it?

[clear canyon]

the b580 is ur only real option

[muted spindle]

ik

thanks

[clear canyon]

my comment was a joke and the other isnt that cheap

[opal plover]

That's because it happened while I was chilling in bed

[tidal geyser]

probs a bad ram stick

[clear canyon]

ur not finding a 3080 for 280 bucks

[woeful phoenix]

I just got my 3080 for $275

[tidal geyser]

try turning off XMP

[opal plover]

is it on the BIOS?

[tidal geyser]

how much time did it take you and how many like it did you find

[clear canyon]

its not commonly that low

[tidal geyser]

yes

[opal plover]

Alright I'll try

[left trellis]

we may have the $400 3090 ti

[tidal geyser]

like i say i get things for certain VERY low prices but its not realistic to replicate

[left trellis]

the 1250 workstation build might go buck wild

[tidal geyser]

at worst i only say there sometimes can be GOOD deals on the used market

[opal plover]

Obviously. There's 1 green ram stick while 2 others are yellow

They might be branded differently

[tidal geyser]

sounds like i was spot on

turn off the pc unplug it from the wall and take out the green ram stick

[woeful phoenix]

I lied, I got it for $290 + shipping

[opal plover]

Alright I'll try

[woeful phoenix]

Not that far off $280. $30 more

[tidal geyser]

wait no picture?

[woeful phoenix]

I bought it off r/hardwareswap. I have the box still

[tidal geyser]

nobody is going to replicate that

[left trellis]

thats p replicatable

hwswap is goated

[woeful phoenix]

This is the second 3080 I bought for $280 ish?...

Hwswap is all I use for parts. Always under market value

[tidal geyser]

why are they not using ebay i wonder

[mild socket]

returned that PNY 5070ti and everything was out of stock. had to jump up to an $870 model to get it within a two week timeframe -.-

[left trellis]

ebay fees are evil

paypal has them too buy not as much

mercari fees are whats really evil tho

[woeful phoenix]

Got this 4090 off hwswap too

[tidal geyser]

das a year ago

[woeful phoenix]

5090 launch

[tidal geyser]

my local one is only like 5% or smn

[woeful phoenix]

Ebay fees are like 10-30%

[clear canyon]

the economy has changed

[left trellis]

ive only sold on hwswap, never bought b4

sold the 13700k and 16gb ddr4

[woeful phoenix]

No, prices jumped right back up after all the FOMO 5090 buyers sold

4090 has been $1800-$1900 all year after 5090 launch

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/1oarclh/usany_h_gigabyte_windforce_geforce_rtx_4090_24gb/

3 months ago, $1900

[shy schooner]

what cpu and gpu do i buy thats good for vr my budget is 400 dollars rn i have 10100f andd rx 6500xt

[left trellis]

new ?

[shy schooner]

doesnt matter

[clear canyon]

ur not getting a 3080 for 280 bucks lol, not realistically

[left trellis]

what country are you in

[shy schooner]

poland

[woeful phoenix]

I just showed you I did?...

[tidal geyser]

that was not 280

[clear canyon]

oh, im assuming you have somthing like a dell prebuilt

[clear canyon]

its not a realistic thing to see constantly

[shy schooner]

bro

[woeful phoenix]

$280, $310 potato potato

[clear canyon]

no

[woeful phoenix]

Yes

[clear canyon]

30 bucks is make or break

[clear canyon]

no

[woeful phoenix]

If $30 is make or break lowkey you might need a new hobby

[formal sonnet]

Not a chance. $30 could be the difference between someone eating this week, or not eating...

[left trellis]

they kinda sell

[empty quartz]

Mrrp

[tidal geyser]

wrong guy

[clear canyon]

fuck

[clear canyon]

ok, ur just being an ass, not everyone can just add 30 bucks to their budget bc a part requires it

[formal sonnet]

You're good lol I too have done the same thing on multiple occasions because UI/UX's SHOULD NEVER MOVE WHILE I AM TRYING TO CLICK ON SOMETHING. EVER. PERIOD.

[woeful phoenix]

Refer back to my last statement.

[shy schooner]

what cpu and gpu to get so i can play pcvr i ahve 10100f and rx 6500xt my budghet is 400$

[clear canyon]

discord moving the chat up lmao

[grizzled frost]

you can play vr on that hardware

[tidal geyser]

your pc is uh not great

[shy schooner]

nope

[grizzled frost]

won’t be a great experience, but it’ll work

[opal plover]

@tidal geyser hopefully you are right about this

[empty quartz]

You can

[shy schooner]

well i can but its so shit id rather kill myself

[opal plover]

Removing the green ram stick ram leaped from 64 to 32

[clear canyon]

see if you can grab an 11700

[tidal geyser]

WTF its a 32GB stick

[empty quartz]

Ive played vr on a 4790k and r9 290

[left trellis]

country?

[woeful phoenix]

13 days ago $275 local

[shy schooner]

yeah but for some reason air link doesntg work with me, and virtual desktop works well but its laggy af

[shy schooner]

poland

[woeful phoenix]

Have you tried steam link?

[empty quartz]

Try using a cable

[woeful phoenix]

Steam link worked best for me

[empty quartz]

Airlink sucks ass

[shy schooner]

i did it didint work really

[grizzled frost]

it being laggy has nothing to do with your pc hardware

[opal plover]

It's a random technician that added those ram for me

[shy schooner]

virtual disktop discord said its because 6500 xt has no encoder

[left trellis]

how much would an 11600 and a 3070 run you

[opal plover]

It was up to my parents for that and then they pick a random technican

[empty quartz]

@shy schooner what headset u using?

[shy schooner]

quest 2

[empty quartz]

Weird

[shy schooner]

i havent tried in a while but ill do it tomorrow probably

[empty quartz]

Was the cable you were using usb 3

[shy schooner]

not sure

[woeful phoenix]

Harddrive prices shouldnt be effected from the rampocalypse outside of demand right?

[tidal geyser]

this entire place is cursed

[empty quartz]

If its usb 2, that’ll cause issues

[shy schooner]

how can i check

[tidal geyser]

why is the rampocalypse

[empty quartz]

Just run the cable test in the oculus app

[opal plover]

It would've been cool for me to have 64GB ram but I just couldn't keep incompatible or bad ram that was a worse situation than what I thought

[clear canyon]

dodge rampocalypse

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-wrong-oscar-the-grouch-ding-dong-gif-25943635

[clear canyon]

what?

[muted spindle]

is 550w charger can take arc b580?

[tidal geyser]

yes

[muted spindle]

thanks

[clear canyon]

what

[woeful phoenix]

I forgor about the dram cache 🙁

[empty quartz]

English 100

[tidal geyser]

interesting

[grizzled frost]

“550w charger” huh?

[shy schooner]

he means 550w psu

[clear canyon]

im just as lost

[muted spindle]

i am weak at english

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/wat-team-fortress2-tf2-gif-11073290

[warm saddle]

Does someone know what is doing the bios switch on xfx cards? Because some people says that its for the Performane and silent, but someone says that its both the Same for recovery of something

[shy schooner]

not that hard to understand bro

[woeful phoenix]

DRAM prices are going up which increases the BOM cost of manafacturing harddrives

[tidal geyser]

no he posted the same thing i send a message to it then he deleted it and sent it again

[tired bear]

type c to 12vhpwr adapter confirmed

[grizzled frost]

120vac to 12vhpwr direct convert confirmed

[tidal geyser]

dram is not used in HDDs or at least not the kind that gets used on them ai chips

the reason all of this is going up is ai datacenters

[woeful phoenix]

Almost every modern HDD has a built in DRAM Cache

[tidal geyser]

and they too need storage

[grizzled frost]

they usually have a small amount of dram cache, tiny ass chips that are very different to datacenter chips

[tidal geyser]

yea like 512MB

[tired bear]

no lol

[woeful phoenix]

Yes

[tidal geyser]

they do but its almost nothing

[woeful phoenix]

Yeah DRAM increased like 200-300%

[tidal geyser]

for a like 2$ chip

[tired bear]

prob ddr3

[grizzled frost]

being generous

[woeful phoenix]

I didnt know the price of them, just that they also were being impacted

[clear canyon]

hard drives dont have dram

[grizzled frost]

oh no! my 200usd hdd went up to 201usd! how tragic!

[left trellis]

they do

most hdds have cache

[grizzled frost]

not enough to be of much consequence though

[left trellis]

just a tiny bit tho

[woeful phoenix]

So only demand is increasing these prices?

[left trellis]

do you fw the 1gb cache on the 22tb hdd ?

[tired bear]

yes

[woeful phoenix]

bwomp

[grizzled frost]

i fw any kind of cache

[clear canyon]

im talking about the high peformance ones

[mild socket]

I have a sever full of used HGST drives. one went out today and noticed that the ebay price had roughly doubled on them too x.x

[woeful phoenix]

Were evolving backwards. Nvidia is gonna manafacture the 3060 again. AMD is making more AM4 Chips. Memory companies are increasing DDR4 manafacturing. HardDrives are coming back.

[tidal geyser]

yes

[grizzled frost]

the manufacturing lines for hdd dram are entirely separate to those for ddr4/5

[tired bear]

you will rent a pc in the cloud and you will be happy

[tidal geyser]

i just sold my used HDDs

[clear canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/gg-gif-27092095

[woeful phoenix]

I need someone to make a video on the best performing HDDs now smh

[tidal geyser]

2.5" SAS

[mild socket]

I just sold my ram to pay for a 5070ti. reselling 128gb ddr4 covered most of the price of the card

[grizzled frost]

they all perform like ass, that’s why you buy 12 of them and put them in a raidz2

[woeful phoenix]

Everything so old

[tidal geyser]

no shit

[grizzled frost]

cause no one cares about hdd performance

[clear canyon]

na, put them into a stripe!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[woeful phoenix]

Now that noone can afford SSDs they do.

[grizzled frost]

i’m fine with this as long as there’s a second copy on another machine

[grizzled frost]

no one is two separate words

[woeful phoenix]

noone cares

[clear canyon]

USB drive raid array

[mild socket]

then we'll have to fight about it. duel at high noone?

[grizzled frost]

to the death, yes

[tidal geyser]

tbh i think its more about ZFS

[left trellis]

stop being poor

[formal sonnet]

I think you mean "tUwU tha deaf!" (you know, since we're working on our gramer skilz..)

[woeful phoenix]

I already have everything I need

[grizzled frost]

12hdds with a couple SSDs as a cache are the way to go

[tidal geyser]

that too

[woeful phoenix]

I got a good laptop, PC, console, phone

[clear canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-20581738

[woeful phoenix]

Im surviving the rampocalypse

[left trellis]

finding library computers in the dumpster is the way to go

[grizzled frost]

optane is the answer to the rampocalypse

[left trellis]

free ddr3, free hdd

[empty quartz]

W

[tidal geyser]

i have more

[clear canyon]

if only it was not discontinued

[grizzled frost]

i already have 512gb of ddr3, how much more do i need?

[woeful phoenix]

What does that sticky note say

[grizzled frost]

don’t care, shits still cheap

[clear canyon]

adds a new meaning to" laptop"

[frosty ruin]

Any opinions about this thermal paste

[grizzled frost]

no

[left dove]

no

[weary anvil]

whats ur guys opinion on 4070 ti super andd 4k?

[left trellis]

💔

[clear canyon]

i was saying that as I wish they was still being made

[grizzled frost]

4k 30 is elite for aure

[left trellis]

if it runs what you want

[mild socket]

way too much. bill gates told me in 1981 that 640k was enough for anyone

[empty quartz]

Do I see an acer nitro loser suckface edition?

[grizzled frost]

oh 100%

[tidal geyser]

that the IT department was gonna take a look at it

[woeful phoenix]

With DLSS 4.5 it will be fine

[frosty ruin]

I gotta make my rog build full rog build

[grizzled frost]

maybe 35 depending on the game

[weary anvil]

30?

[tired bear]

[grizzled frost]

maybe 35 depending on the game

[tidal geyser]

my 2nd first acer was a swift 3 with a OLED screen and 12700h that i only got after taking that

[empty quartz]

@tidal geyser whats the bottom right lappy?

[grizzled frost]

I’m breaking into your home as we speak

[clear canyon]

ill give you a firm hand shake for them

[tidal geyser]

XMG e20 smn with a desktop am4 socket

[mild socket]

some people post pictures of stacks of cash. others post their piles of drugs. but this is money

[weary anvil]

idk i dont wanna spend like 1k on a monitor for it to be like 50 fps

[woeful phoenix]

Heres perf numbers

[weary anvil]

wym by that 35 fps?

[tired bear]

we can remember together

[left trellis]

you can render in 4k w nvidia control panel

[grizzled frost]

fps, yes

[left trellis]

just check what u get on the games you want

[grizzled frost]

memory good

[weary anvil]

70 fps is good tho native

[grizzled frost]

best i can do is 2.5in SAS drives in exchange for your ram

[weary anvil]

wym/

[shy schooner]

@empty quartz surely can run

[empty quartz]

Wha

[woeful phoenix]

You will be fine. Also use DLSS 4.5 peformance and youll get great fps

[grizzled frost]

yall think i’m joking, i have a shelf of 2.5in sas hdds

[tidal geyser]

pre 4000 i would not

[woeful phoenix]

DLSS 4.5 performance lowkey a miracle

[shy schooner]

it says graphics card is incompatible with meta qwuest link, cant detect or pair goggles

[woeful phoenix]

True

[tidal geyser]

well eh

[empty quartz]

What the fuck

[weary anvil]

i heard dlss 4.5 is supposed to look better then native

[frosty ruin]

Im already getting great results at quality preset

[grizzled frost]

it doesn’t look better than native

but it does look damn good

[woeful phoenix]

It definitely does

[limpid ivy]

👀 SAS hdds you say

[woeful phoenix]

Performance? No.

[woeful phoenix]

In general you get a better image than native

[grizzled frost]

schizophrenia

[tidal geyser]

probs just sharper

[woeful phoenix]

No theres more data. Tons of games look better than native with DLSS

[weary anvil]

ill try that tmr

[empty quartz]

Idk how but sol4ra’s takes just keep getting worse

[shut flicker]

Should knock it over /j

[shy schooner]

yo so what can i do

[frosty ruin]

Yea I noticed that it gets sharper and not so blurry and washed out

[woeful phoenix]

I love how you keep putting cute x's on my comments xoxo

[tidal geyser]

you mean with DLDLR or whatever nvidia calls their native AA

[limpid ivy]

@grizzled frost Do they work idk, are they alive yes

[empty quartz]

Try re-installing the oculus app

[shy schooner]

i literally just did to show you

[woeful phoenix]

No even with DLSS quality. DLAA definitely

[empty quartz]

Wack as fuck

[frosty ruin]

DLAA

[tidal geyser]

nice

[shy schooner]

ill try updating my gpu drivers

[frosty ruin]

It’s dogshit in my opinion

[woeful phoenix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x7goOdiaSU

[tired bear]

dusty and crusty

[shy schooner]

bro

[limpid ivy]

Pulled them from Dell JBOB that wasn't worth keeping.

[tidal geyser]

DDU

[frosty ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/error-windows-xp-gif-23974875

[woeful phoenix]

DLSS 4.0 Quality vs DLSS 4.5 Ultra Performance. Crazy how similar they are.

[shy schooner]

what does this mean

[woeful phoenix]

Display Driver Uninstaller

[woeful phoenix]

AMD Moment

[empty quartz]

@woeful phoenix’s brain

[woeful phoenix]

Bro has me blocked but cant keep me out his mouth ❤️

I have a secret admirer

[frosty ruin]

I think I’m in the middle of something

[empty quartz]

Nah

Unless

You mean this segue

To our sponsor!

[woeful phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-hello-segway-goodmorning-funny-gif-4503241

[clear canyon]

common for amd to crash lmao

[woeful phoenix]

My 7900XTX constantly got Driver timeouts

[empty quartz]

I need to replace the back glass of my music player

[woeful phoenix]

Never going back to AMD

Ill recommend them for ultra low budget builds sometimes

[tidal geyser]

mines been perfect

[woeful phoenix]

Owned the 6950XT and 7900XTX. Both had issues with the native recorder writing to RAM instead of disk

[grizzled frost]

skissue

[frosty ruin]

This is a ultra budget laptop running abysmal dogshit gpu

[grizzled frost]

just watched this movie for the first time recently, damn good movie

[steel umbra]

nvidia driver update bricked my 3060 ti

[tired bear]

same, watched it few days ago

[steel umbra]

just blank screen

[grizzled frost]

ARE YOU MAD?

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/deal-damn-good-deal-good-deal-id-make-that-deal-gif-27676387

[shy schooner]

@empty quartz btw this probably matters my rx 6500 xt is 4gb dram

[steel umbra]

wouldn’t say either nvidia or amd drivers are better/worse

[woeful phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/inglorious-basterds-think-masterpiece-must-gif-10515968142178872056

[woeful phoenix]

Nah Nvidias def is better

Nvidia has issues sometimes too

But AMDs is worse/ more likely to happen

Nvidia also had the same issue of recordings writing to RAM instead of Disk which is funny

[steel umbra]

3060 ti driver update bricked my card

[woeful phoenix]

I also had the Nvidia overlay just quit giving me the option to record at all even after DDU and windows restarts

[grizzled frost]

anecdotes anecdoting

[woeful phoenix]

Contact Nvidia or manafacturer. Issue fixed.

Its not widespread like AMDs is

[steel umbra]

50 series-

[grizzled frost]

50 series try not to die on launch challenge (EXTREMELY HARD)

[steel umbra]

if i were a regular user i wouldn’t be able to do debugging or reinstall windows

i’ve had tons of minor issues with adrenalin but nvidia nailed it with a blank screen

[steel umbra]

also remember, reinstalling windows involves erasing your possibly precious files

[frosty ruin]

Did you try the good old oven trick

[tidal geyser]

i remember seeing someone do that and haing their card semi burnt

[woeful phoenix]

My point still stands. QC is better with Nvidia than AMD

Just because you had a catastrophic failure doesnt make the product worse

QC is an issue for all products.

[steel umbra]

the card was working but windows couldn’t even reach basic display driver

[shy schooner]

can someone help me get a cpu and gpu up to 400$ (or just gpu) i want best vr performance rn i have 10100f and rx 6500 xt 4gb pls help

[bold olive]

assuming you have an igpu

[steel umbra]

yeah i didn’t

[bold olive]

you mean dont

[steel umbra]

your point fall apart because you didn’t provide a statistic that backs up your claim

[swift stream]

is steelseries sonar better than voicemeeter, every time i use voicemeeter it makes me sound like i am speaking through a tin can 😔

[frosty ruin]

Where did u buy the card

[steel umbra]

at retail

[frosty ruin]

Did u try DDU

[bold olive]

stuff a second gpu for display, restore to a previous driver for the gpu

[steel umbra]

without a display output? that would be very hard to navigate or debug

[formal sonnet]

Same goes for your AMD GPU / driver timeout experience... 😉

[sleek ibex]

[woeful phoenix]

I can scroll for hours btw

[sleek ibex]

What a source

[steel umbra]

same for nvidia

[woeful phoenix]

Show me

Multiple pages of dead 3060s due to driver updates

Show me that and Ill concede

[formal sonnet]

I could show (but won't because I'm not here to prove facts) the same for nVidia. Back when the 50xx series launched, this Discord was plagued with message after message of people getting black screens with various nVidia GPU's when nVidia released the drivers compatible with the 50xx series. This went on for almost a full year.

[steel umbra]

50 series blank screen

[frosty ruin]

I would try out multiple gpus if you have any and rule out that it’s broken or smh

[woeful phoenix]

I said your specific issue. Now youre changing issues.

I said that AMD has bad driver timeout issues. which they do

And I can back that up with multiple forum pages showing so

[ivory mountain]

im still on 25.6.1 after that shit ahh update, 25.12.1 was horrid

[tidal geyser]

I hated that so much, you just can't say anything but should have gotten amd

[woeful phoenix]

Not to mention youre quite literally forced to stay on prior updates/ some updates are just much worse for VR

[formal sonnet]

At the end of the day, it's a bad idea to make definitive blanket statements, though I fear this is a mistake humans will continue repeating until the extinction of our species. 🤷

[steel umbra]

you said QC which includes all related issues

[tidal geyser]

I'm just tired

Now Nvidia had pretty stable drivers and tons of features while amd is lacking in features and somehow from what I have seen the drivers have gone backwards

[frosty ruin]

I want Intel to do an comeback that flattens AMD cpus

[tidal geyser]

I myself just want a Intel GPU and see what it is about, intel is fully focused on this and I will not allow all that effort to go to waste while amd is doing nothing.

[left trellis]

hard drive prices are wild

[shy schooner]

would a 11400f and rx 6700 be good for vr

[steel umbra]

i fixed it a long time ago, what i’m trying to say i had a bad experience and average person wouldn’t be able to fix it without erasing their files or debugging

[frosty ruin]

Damn I was lucky picking the RGB version for a fraction of the price💀

[shy schooner]

is a 6700 xt used for 220 usd good

[tidal geyser]

Micron was a pretty small producer

[steel umbra]

i find it funny considering consoles have quite bit of dram

[frosty ruin]

They had 20% impact on the market tho

Even tho Samsung has like over 50%

[woeful phoenix]

Consoles are going to increase a ton too

[ivory mountain]

midbox series shit and shitstation 5

[steel umbra]

typically low consumer end ram skus were micron, mid end was samsung and best performing were hynix

[woeful phoenix]

I bought my PS5 Pro for GTA 6 for $750. Im sure it will be $999 soon

[steel umbra]

i’d say their market share overall for ddr5 kits was about equal

[shy schooner]

is a 6700 xt used for 220 usd good

[frosty ruin]

Sufferstation 5

[steel umbra]

Playstalemate

[frosty ruin]

I accidentally broke the disc bay of my PS3 10 years ago

[woeful phoenix]

Can anyone tell me wtf this is even good for?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BZJTQ5YP?utm_source=nvidia&th=1

Is it just a beefier raspberry pie?

[tired bear]

yes

[frosty ruin]

67

[tired bear]

kinda

[frosty ruin]

67 AI Tops

[woeful phoenix]

I just dont see it being good for anything like LLMs or other models

[muted spindle]

which card should i get intel arc b580 or rtx 5060

[tidal geyser]

"Developer Kit" "up to 67 TOPS"

[tired bear]

can be used for CV

[tidal geyser]

pretty good if you are making something for mobile NPUs

[woeful phoenix]

Makes sense

[frosty ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/67-67-meme-67-umpire-umpire-mlb-gif-16280715357512483999

[thorny saddle]

41

[tired bear]

have people forgotten all other ML algorithms other than LLM?

[woeful phoenix]

Well LLMs usually encompass multiple other algorithms

Most LLMs are multimodal these days

[thorny saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-ackchyually-actually-gif-11156171

[frosty ruin]

I don’t have a damn clue what you talked about to be honest

https://tenor.com/view/enchanting-table-meme-speech-nonsense-gif-17629248570232175613

[muted spindle]

what is the best monitor for under 80$

[woeful phoenix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy0V86i9RWU

I wouldnt mind using a jetson for some local home security AI models

[tired bear]

ye na, just use google coral on a m.2

its like 30$

[formal sonnet]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/by-price/budget

[steel umbra]

two screens

for free

[frosty ruin]

Bro what is this

[steel umbra]

a deal

[frosty ruin]

Oh it’s actually good

But wait there’s no DDR5

[steel umbra]

that would be too much to ask for like 600 usd

[dull jetty]

Hello, i'd like to ask if anyone knows. but does the Apple Pro Thunderbolt 5 USB-C to C work on Android/Windows that support TB5 ?

[frosty ruin]

Damn

[woeful phoenix]

Yeah but the jetson could do multiple things concurrently or be used for other tasks. Lowkey I havent tried anything dealing with local AI.

[shut flicker]

I mean at least it's listed for free, I've seen some idiots wanting money for broken TVs/Monitors

[woeful phoenix]

I had a 4090, tried an LLM and was dissapointed compared to free cloud models

[steel umbra]

i mean spare parts are worth something

[tired bear]

you could also use intel igpu

[frosty ruin]

You can plug it into anything

Charge, Video whatever

[dull jetty]

yes i know it can be a default usb cable, but if my windows PC has support for TB5, will i still get TB5 or is apple gonna shaft me ? lol

[woeful phoenix]

Im assuming these free cloud models will eventually get so good that theyre used all the time and will be moved to a paid model

Or google will just keep it free because youre paying them in data

Absolutely love Gemini 3 pro

[tired bear]

there were always shit models avalibile, which model did you run

[frosty ruin]

Yea you’ll get TB5

[woeful phoenix]

Gemma 3 and GPT oss

[dull jetty]

i just wanted to make sure because i know apple loves their "hand-shake" bs lol

[tired bear]

i ran deepseek 70b and it was preatty good but slow af on my current setup

[woeful phoenix]

I guess I expected them to be atleast a little useful as Gemini was but that was really ignorant of me. I mean a current local AI cant be compared to gemini. Eventually Im sure they will get really good. But local models struggled poorly with calculus

[woeful phoenix]

I asked the lmstudio discord so Im sure I tried whatever was just big enough to fit on 24gb of VRAM. As I said Im sure it will get there but until it does Ill use Gemini. I mean its free so theres really no reason not to.

[tired bear]

you could prob run deepseek r1 32b

[thorny saddle]

deepseek was kind of a bust

[plain cypress]

Deepseek feels like it was 3 years ago

[rigid fjord]

tbf, deepseek was suppose to be easily ran on a ras pi

[azure topaz]

no

deepseek can run the lowest parameter size, very slowly, on a ras pi

that is very clearly not the intended use case

[wispy forum]

I can even tell you if you want to lol it’s nothing too crazy

[azure topaz]

it’s for my crypto methods

[thin bloom]

Got the rx 5600

[wispy forum]

And not stuff that is guessable right? Your favourite animal etc all those stuff avoided

[thin bloom]

It needs some cleaning but the guy said he had it for 2 years

[wispy forum]

Huh, so your password should be guessable?

[wispy forum]

Or was your sentence written wrong

I didn’t understand the joke sorry

[thorny saddle]

the best password is a certificate

[frigid blade]

Obviously it shouldn’t be guessable, but you don’t need 100 character long password

[wispy forum]

So like minimum 16 and symbols okido

[frigid blade]

Most passwords are either leaked or you share the password somehow

Not guessed

[wispy forum]

Owh and regarding what I am “hiding.” is nothing bad just my pc with my accounts on it or my social media accounts that I do not wanna lose

[wispy forum]

And no Imm not a blogger but I just put effort into it so I don’t wanna lose it due to some dumb ah hacker. And also no I do not press weird links either.

[wispy forum]

How can it be leaked when I will soon keep all my passwords hidden irl😗

[wispy forum]

Idk how hackers do it anyway I think with a program that cracks it

[wispy forum]

And I have had e-mails sometimes of some people trying to log in so I got paranoid and well here I am

[frigid blade]

No one is trying to crack passwords because of API rate limits

Would take way too long

[wispy forum]

Uhm in English pls?

[wispy forum]

I am not experienced in Cybersecurity whatsoever

[wispy forum]

I am in coding a little tho ig

[wispy forum]

@frigid blade since you asked Daniel

[valid laurel]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/pvGNkf thoughts on the pc i'm building this week

[frigid blade]

When you log into an account, you have to send that login data to a server to verify you’re who you are, when you try crack passwords, you have to keep sending that data to the server until it says you’re that user you’re trying to crack

Most of these servers have rate limits in place which only allow so many of those requests to happen before you’re blocked from sending more in a time period

[wispy forum]

Well true, but I just wanna be safe just in case to relax myself lel

[wispy forum]

Curious how did you get your hands on ram lol

[wispy forum]

Not trying to be mean but I saw the prices go up very heavily hence my curiosity

[full moss]

Looks like he bought it a while ago based on the price

[wispy forum]

Or did they drop now?

[full moss]

Not even close

[wispy forum]

I guess yeah

[wispy forum]

I didn’t pay attention to the prices haha so idk anyway

[wispy forum]

Welp what is the solution to this though?

Will it just stay sky rocket?

I know discord isn’t full of ceo’s or something but idk

[full moss]

Um there isn’t really one

[wispy forum]

🧍‍♂️

[valid laurel]

so i went to the edge of the universe with buzz lightyear and i went into an infinity market filled with anything and everything and just by chance i found a stall selling RAM

[wispy forum]

Prebuilt but outside of this idk anything else

[full moss]

Even if there was one, it will take at least 3-4 years

[rigid fjord]

with common sense on the side

[full moss]

Because the main solution is just build more ram, which will take a few years at least

And nobody wants to do that rn

[frigid blade]

Won’t happen

[wispy forum]

I didnmt get the joke

[full moss]

Agreed

[thorny saddle]

its not a joke

[azure topaz]

lol

[frigid blade]

Someone mentioned the last time there was a squeeze on ram supply, manufacturers started ramping up and then overproduced way too much

[azure topaz]

this wont happen again

sk hynix has said specifically that they want to avoid that

[frigid blade]

Yah so they won’t ramp up production

[wispy forum]

Ah I see

[azure topaz]

they want to keep the same amount of space allocated for hbm, "AI" buyers

consumers literally just get to fight with eachother until we all have enough ram (aka we all over pay)

then theyll try to drop prices after everyone has already paid and record quarters are recorded

[wispy forum]

So in other words no one’s building nothing as last time everything was overproduced, and now the prices will stay skyrocket?

[azure topaz]

👍

[frigid blade]

Pls keep ramping up prices

[valid laurel]

i was lucky but the anoying part is that is its xmp specific ram when i need expo so i cant use the normal expo profile and tune it myself which is a bummer, but what can i do like i was lucky to find it at the price i did

[frigid blade]

I wanna sell my dimms

[azure topaz]

people are building, prices are up and sky rocketed already

its not a lack of people wanting to build pcs lol

[wispy forum]

I meant building rams

Like producing that

[azure topaz]

not really

they are producing memory just not quite enough

[full moss]

Not near enough

[azure topaz]

so its not that everyone is out of it its that its priced very high

because supply and demand

[full moss]

They are producing enough ram for ai

Just not enough ram for gamers

They used to be making enough for both

[azure topaz]

its a different type of memory

HBM is generally used for the big ai chips

[wispy forum]

I mean for us too

When will this be solved I wanted to help my elder brother choose a good pc men

[azure topaz]

lmfao you have a year minimum

[full moss]

It will be years

[azure topaz]

simply overpay

kinda only advice anyone can give you

[full moss]

Buy it now

[frigid blade]

Overpay at a lower price

[azure topaz]

i had a homie snipe a hynix 32GB kit for 200$, that was pretty good

[ivory mountain]

just rob the store for ur ram

[rigid fjord]

nah, between this year nad next it'll probably level out

[azure topaz]

100$/16GB

[frigid blade]

There’s so many cheap 32GB 6000 kits on fbmp

[full moss]

Won’t get back to what it was originally for years is what I mean

[azure topaz]

that arent hynix more than likely

[full moss]

It will get back down a bit this year prob

[azure topaz]

friends dont let friends buy not hynix

[frigid blade]

I’m not selling to friends I’m selling to people who want ram

Oh I misread

My point still stands

[wispy forum]

Genuinely Daniel when will we have ram again

[full moss]

Beggars can’t be choosers

[frigid blade]

Buy for $80 sell for $200

[azure topaz]

this is a dumb mindset

[full moss]

Not rn it isn’t

[azure topaz]

you should care about what youre buying especially during a shortage

yeah so when you have to buy it again in 2 years cause you got slow shit ram you can blame yourself

[wispy forum]

I don’t understand so because companies with ai wanted ram we now have super high prices but it will take years to fix this? (Meaning get a normal price for ourselves?)

[full moss]

Most people aren’t trying to pay an extra $100 for Hynix

[azure topaz]

200$ for a 32GB kit is pretty good lol

still cheaper than the cheapest new by 100$

this is bad but yknow pretty good

[stable beacon]

it only took 4 years to figure out i need way more vram than 8gb

[azure topaz]

hynix isnt being overcharged specifically its all ddr5 memory vendors, may as well purchase the only one worth using

[stable beacon]

when do you think ram prices are going to hit us when it comes to gpus btw

[azure topaz]

already have homie

that is why amd increased the cost of the 9000 series by 50$

[stable beacon]

they've killed 16gb variants?

[azure topaz]

9060xt is about 400$ for the 16GB instead of 350

same with the rest of the stack

[stable beacon]

when? 2 weeks ago i checked the 9070 xt was 600

[azure topaz]

8gb models remained the some iirc

[azure topaz]

2 weeks ago was xmas sales and new years sales

700$

[stable beacon]

i'm still lucky i guess but i need to find a way to make 600 quick

[azure topaz]

well its also microcenter lol

[stable beacon]

they opened in 2024 in my town iirc

[azure topaz]

i would obtain a gpu/any hardware upgrade soemwhat sooner than later cause we have like a year of this probably

[stable beacon]

they used to have one way back in like 2008, but they closed it down and turned it into a walmart, supposedly because the site renters were raising the prices

[azure topaz]

interesting

[empty quartz]

Job

@azure topaz do i buy a factory waterblocked gpu or buy a normal gpu and waterblock it

[azure topaz]

2nd one

[empty quartz]

Asking because i was looking at pricing and i’d be down around $1300 for a gpu and waterblock

[azure topaz]

easier to resell later

nobody wants a blocked gpu

[empty quartz]

I do :3

[azure topaz]

thats great you cant sell things to yourself

😭

[empty quartz]

Yes i can

[azure topaz]

bro you do this everytime we have a conversation and i click out everytime

[empty quartz]

Smh

Still stuck deciding on a gpu

9070xt, 7900xtx, or nvidia

[stable beacon]

as if i didn't need 3 to pay rent 💀 might as well sell the pc but my "freelance" photo editing kind of depends on it

[empty quartz]

I couldnt pay rent working full time

[formal elm]

9070 xt imo if purely for gaming

[stable beacon]

i do technically have enough spare parts for a media server pc ( don't mind the psu)

[formal elm]

good value for money, current gen so has all the new fsr features and it is amd so it has good linux support also

[azure topaz]

hes blocking the card does value particularly matter

[stable beacon]

i was thinking throw something together, add unicorn vomit and sell

[empty quartz]

Idgaf about linux support :D

[azure topaz]

(no)

[formal elm]

id still go for the 9070 xt

unless you need cuda

[azure topaz]

already giving up via spending an additional 150-200$ on a block that he cant resell, just give me dlss

[empty quartz]

Fuck it

5080

(Spending the entire price of my pc atm on just the gpu)

[azure topaz]

idk how much mine was withouth

[formal elm]

9070 xt is my dream gpu ngl but im gonna wait for next gen prob because im on a 7900 gre rn which is only a couple years old

[azure topaz]

damn your dream gpu is like only 20-30% faster than your current 😭

[formal elm]

way faster in RT though

would be nice to see if i could run path tracing on cyberpunk but i dont know if even a 9070 xt can handle that yet at 4K

[empty quartz]

Barely*

[formal elm]

significantly

[empty quartz]

its amd

[formal elm]

from benchmarks i have seen at least

[formal elm]

9000 series has good RT performance

anything before that doesnt though

[empty quartz]

@formal elm if the 4090 cant handle cyberpunk at 4k + path tracing at native, the 9070xt would implode

[formal elm]

idm using fsr

[azure topaz]

because 4k path tracing is insane

crying baby vs hydrogen bomb comparison