tech-chat-1

[tulip depot]

I'm sticking with my 40 frames if I have to

[woeful phoenix]

fr

[winter lantern]

why lol

[drowsy isle]

I only enable it when I using my controller too since I don't notice the input lag as much

[winter lantern]

Linus said he couldnt tell a difference sometimes 🥺

[tulip depot]

I notice a worse picture quality with fg on

and the image is just not stable

[carmine yew]

and apparently DLSS4.5 fixes most of that

[tulip depot]

sadly dlss 4.5 doesn't enable when ray reconstruction

[winter lantern]

like youre supposed to have extra vram for it but if youre using frame gen you have low fps

[molten sleet]

I’m interested in the g sync pulsar thing they’ve got going on. I’ve heard the perceived motion clarity of black frame insertion tends to be better than oled because of the way our eyes naturally add motion blur

[carmine yew]

I'm really curious to see 4.5 in the wild

[rose stream]

Man, this all really falls off and over me.

[ebon marlin]

I tried 4x on cyberpunk with pt max settings didn't really notice anything unusual with my 5070

[tulip depot]

if I am not running ray reconstruction frames will be high enough to not need fg

[rose stream]

As someone who doesn't use upscalers. Lol.

[drowsy isle]

Ehh I notice it a lot

on my 5080

[ebon marlin]

I don't even when I tried to notice it

[winter lantern]

cyberpunk just looks like ass on my 1650 super

[empty quartz]

Im tempted to either buy a “new 3ds xl” or airpods pro 3’s

[drowsy isle]

Wait really

[molten sleet]

Was it the input lag or the ghost bumpers

[molten crypt]

whats a good cpu cooler for the ryzen 7 7700x cpu?

[winter lantern]

a new 3ds xl is such a scam lol

[tidal geyser]

you still have not upgraded after like half a year

[molten sleet]

Peerless assassin

[drowsy isle]

the ghosting the input lag

[tidal geyser]

id cooling a620

[empty quartz]

Yes, but minecraft on 3ds

[drowsy isle]

the bluriness and softer graphics

[molten sleet]

Same I thought the input lag was a bit much for cyberpunk but in hogwarts legacy I don’t mind it nearly as much

[ebon marlin]

I own a new 3ds xl it's not really anything special just get the Ayn Thor or any of it's copycats

[winter lantern]

play one of the worst versions of the game for 10 minutes 🥀

[carmine yew]

holy shit, this is hilarious:

[empty quartz]

Yup

[winter lantern]

yeah the ayn thor is actually cheaper

[ebon marlin]

Minecraft on the new 3ds xl is god awful

[empty quartz]

Peak pc

[molten sleet]

How did this happen

[drowsy isle]

I started playing with a controller and don't notice the input lag as much

but I still only use 2x fg

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-sniper-tf2-tf2-sniper-tf2-tf2-memes-gif-1704852146212683468

[ebon marlin]

• maybe OLED iirc

[winter lantern]

every phone is oled gng

[carmine yew]

your guess is as good as mine

[winter lantern]

its funny how high end phones run better than a steamdeck

[worthy pumice]

Guys I’m gonna upgrade gpu and my choice rn is between a RTX 3060 12GB or a 5060 8GB, which is better?

[tidal geyser]

ehhh wat

[tidal geyser]

the one that is way way more modern

[winter lantern]

5060

[worthy pumice]

But its got way less vram?

[molten sleet]

8gb 🙁

[winter lantern]

less vram doesnt matter when the vram is way better

[tidal geyser]

more efficent vram

[molten sleet]

If you’re playing 1080p won’t be an issue methinks

[tidal geyser]

but not by that much

[worthy pumice]

Only have a 1080p monitor rn, not bad anyway so

[winter lantern]

its like 40% faster

[worthy pumice]

Well yes but isnt 8gb dated by todays standards

[tidal geyser]

what cpu you got

[winter lantern]

sure but a 3060 is too

[tidal geyser]

3 of nvidias latest cards are 8GB

[worthy pumice]

5700x

[carmine yew]

kind of, but that doesn't stop most people from buying them

[tidal geyser]

ok good just make sure to enable rebar

[empty quartz]

@winter lantern Its funny how my 16 pro max is more powerful than that ayn thor in every way

[winter lantern]

true but it doesnt have 2 screens

[molten sleet]

What is the pricing like, is there any reason you can’t get something like a used 3080

[winter lantern]

and is also like 4x the cost

[worthy pumice]

Like 280 eur for the 5060

[tidal geyser]

a European

[empty quartz]

My 16 pro max doesnt even need the internal screen

[worthy pumice]

Yes

[winter lantern]

damn you can use it without a screen?

[tidal geyser]

you pay for electricity?

[worthy pumice]

Yes

[winter lantern]

just pirate electricity

[empty quartz]

Yes, all i need is a keyboard, mouse, and monitor

[worthy pumice]

Lmaoo

[molten sleet]

I have a plethora of solar panels I bring with me everywhere

[winter lantern]

a gpu doesnt even increase a bill that much

[worthy pumice]

Arent newer gpus more power efficient anyway

It also depends heavily on what game youre playing

[empty quartz]

Those cost more than my generator, and i got 7500 watts at my disposal

[carmine yew]

tell that to the 600W+ 5090

[worthy pumice]

Oof

[winter lantern]

well the best gpu doesnt have to be

[worthy pumice]

2000W PSU

[drowsy isle]

Turn down pointless settings, don't give money to devs making unoptimized slop, and 8gb for 1080p gaming will largely be fine

[empty quartz]

Or 1kw 6900xt

[winter lantern]

you only need a 1000w lol

[carmine yew]

But: A GPU does very little to up the Power Draw, unless you're running stuff on it 24/7

[molten sleet]

Bitcoin mining in big 2026

[worthy pumice]

So 5060 is the way to go?

[winter lantern]

afking roblox

[tidal geyser]

keep in mind we are also comparing budget stuff

[drowsy isle]

There are some settings that are significantly more demanding for barely any visual gain, watch optimization videos

[carmine yew]

when your PC is idle? The GPU does very little power draw

[winter lantern]

yeah

[worthy pumice]

Guess I’m jumping up 3 gens 💀

[winter lantern]

wouldent you want that

[worthy pumice]

Yes but im surprised that the 2060 has lasted this far

[winter lantern]

you bought it when it came out?

[worthy pumice]

I tried to put some good settings which ended up using 5gb vram and it ran fine for a second before stuttering like hell

No but I meant in the sense of how old it is

[winter lantern]

i gotta be the only person in the world to be using a 1650 super on a 32:9 monitor

[drowsy isle]

yep

my 3080ti used to idle 130w it was something

[worthy pumice]

Wait gigabyte still makes gpus?

[tidal geyser]

what country are you in?

[worthy pumice]

I thought they pulled out

[tidal geyser]

evga

[worthy pumice]

Or am I mixing it up

[carmine yew]

yes? They're one of the big ones still

[worthy pumice]

Yep

[carmine yew]

EVGA Bailed (and then fell apart, sadly)

[tidal geyser]

i cant do that much then but the list looks fine

[drowsy isle]

EVGA was fed up, honestly if they had stayed they could have gotten a piece of that price gouging pie too I mean asus over here charging $1800 for a 5080 and people are willing to pay

[winter lantern]

can we agree pny is the best brand cause their gpu are at msrp

[rose stream]

Which ones exactly and in what games/apps?

[drowsy isle]

true msi also had cheap aibs

gigabyte aorus master was also not extremely overpriced it was $1300 for some time

asus astral was always $1700 and only went up

[worthy pumice]

Newer doesnt necessarily mean better right? Is there any new-ish card that has more value/similar performance to a 5060?

[tidal geyser]

5060 ti 16GB

o no wait 9060 xt 16GB

[drowsy isle]

9060 xt 16gbs available for you

[worthy pumice]

Does it have RT?

[winter lantern]

Yeah

[tidal geyser]

amd has had RT for 3 generations

[drowsy isle]

Yes it performs almost exactly like the 5060ti and upscaler is as good just no mfg

[worthy pumice]

Mfg?

[tidal geyser]

intel has had em for all their desktop cards

[worthy pumice]

my knowledge has ran out

[winter lantern]

Pc partpicker is funny cause my build is worth like 50% - 60% of this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mbgz8Q

[left trellis]

How do I get a z790 ddr4 motherboard, a high end 1tb ssd w dram, a high end 2tb ssd w dram, for 183.61
I can push it to 210.10 if needed fr

[tidal geyser]

amd is uh kinda lacking a bit there

they just came out with a semi decent frame gen

[worthy pumice]

Wtf is mfg, cause rn in thinking of that one anime 💀😭

[left trellis]

lemme get a 2tb

[winter lantern]

Mf ghost is ass

[tidal geyser]

multi frame gen

[worthy pumice]

So DLSS?

[drowsy isle]

Not really that important it's just 3 fake frames for every real frame, can lead to a smoother looking game but the overall feel won't feel like the framerate

[winter lantern]

Well amd doesn't have dlss

[drowsy isle]

and mfg also takes a hit to base performance

[rose stream]

FSR, but now with features like DLSS basically.

[worthy pumice]

Obviously

[winter lantern]

No shit

[left trellis]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yjXVqH

current pcpp, need to buy mobo, kryosheet, and second eps cable

[left trellis]

dlss is a collection of features, mfg is one of them

[tidal geyser]

i did read all the words in the sentance

[left trellis]

amd has fsr, which is the equivalent, but the fg, and upscaling is a bit worse, and no mfg

[tidal geyser]

amd has most of the stuff nvidia has

[worthy pumice]

I honestly I don’t like MFG? Cause wdym fake frames in a game

[tidal geyser]

eh fsr 4 is still only around dlss 3.5

aka at a level where it becomes really hard to see a difference

[winter lantern]

It says my pc is worth as much as this

[drowsy isle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xCLxDj same for mine it just keeps going up in price wwith how bad shortages have gotten

[tidal geyser]

is there a mod here?

[tacit star]

We miss you

[drowsy isle]

it seems like 2tb drives are going to go up to $500 from WD

[winter lantern]

Why

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/watcher-interfere-watcher-will-not-interfere-watcher-what-if-interfere-gif-24268184

[drowsy isle]

so I guess another $500 in value to my pc

[tidal geyser]

some guy self promoted HARD

[winter lantern]

We know they ain't selling for near that much

[tidal geyser]

but nvidia now has dlss 4.5 and their new transformer v2

[carmine yew]

Use the @ mod tag

[drowsy isle]

Best buy has them listed at that price right now

[tidal geyser]

well he gone

[worthy pumice]

Holy shit the AMD cards have value

[drowsy isle]

other retailers are going to go up

[winter lantern]

Used ram

[tidal geyser]

was gonna do it but he went so fast

[tacit star]

Aside from the topic, can you tell me why so many manufacturers put 3 ARGB fans on the front of the case, and a normal no LED on the back? What is the point?

[winter lantern]

Idk

[worthy pumice]

Guys is there any real advantage to 3 fan gpus over 2 fan?

[tacit star]

4 fans, 3 light, and the exhaust doesn't. What is the point because I hate this trend

[rose stream]

"Gamer appeal"...

With that one strange exception for cost reasons.

[drowsy isle]

now why tf is my clipboard not working

[tacit star]

It's been forever

[tacit star]

Not an appeal, I just don't see the logic

[tidal geyser]

less noise i guess

[drowsy isle]

Thanks windows

[tidal geyser]

i love linux

[tacit star]

I bought a case with 0 fans and filled it with my own

[rose stream]

Because it won't make sense for us, just them to do.

[tacit star]

I mean if you are placing 3 ARGB fans on the front, why not put ARGB on the back too?

[tidal geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1336647847810043914.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=LC_pog_fish

[rose stream]

"Cost reasons."

[tacit star]

Make for less but charge the same?

[drowsy isle]

maybe in 5 to 10 years if windows keeps getting worse which it is

[tidal geyser]

why not switch now

only things i really have issues with now would be vr and uh hm

tbh it kinda just works

[rose stream]

Only reason to wait is be me, with my current cpu and board setup, then later when that gets upgraded, make the jump.

[tacit star]

I have a confession, I don't hate 11 as much as Vista

[drowsy isle]

Well probably the most common reasons people don't switch you've probably heard them

[tacit star]

11 is flawed but not unusable

[winter lantern]

How do I dupe my money to buy this

[rose stream]

I... Never hated Vista actually.

[tidal geyser]

i hate KAC games so much

[drowsy isle]

I'm fine with windows 11 just some bugs here and there

[tacit star]

Cause it was beautiful?

[tacit star]

Aye me too. But I absolutely despise Vista

[tidal geyser]

you do know the cpu you already own is about as fast as that one in gaming

[rose stream]

Because it worked just fine.

[winter lantern]

No

[rose stream]

At least for me.

[tacit star]

Tbh I don't find a huge difference between 10 and 11 but some UI differences

[rose stream]

And then 7 was slightly better.

[winter lantern]

I thought the best intel cpu would be good 😔

[tidal geyser]

pantherlake

[tacit star]

slightly
Best Windows ever released

[drowsy isle]

I like the updated snipping tool, super useful pretty much what I like others I'm indifferent

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/panther-black-panther-wild-animal-gif-15861685

[winter lantern]

Laptops arent real

[rose stream]

I skipped over 8 and 8.1 because of the Metro UI, though... Now in retrospect, I kinda wish I didn't.

[tacit star]

Oh 8 is my other despicable Windows

[rose stream]

Turns out, 8 was way more optimized than we took it for.

[winter lantern]

H200 laptop when 🥺

[rose stream]

It even beats 7 and XP consistently, apparently.

[plain cypress]

coming to a laptop near you

[tacit star]

I loved 7 so much more than XP

[rose stream]

And considering I've tried it on various occasions, it... Actually wasn't so bad.

[drowsy isle]

time to take out some loans

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/pootis-engage-yes-very-yes-heavy-tf2-gif-17755424

[tacit star]

10 was not as good as 7, and 11 is almost the same as 10

Vista and 8 stunk tho

[rose stream]

The times I've tried messing around in XP again, I realized it was... Just not the same.

[winter lantern]

Need to convince my parents I can resell for 5k

[rose stream]

In fact, I found myself preferring to mess around in one of the multiple Linux distros I went for when distro hopping, over using XP.

[drowsy isle]

I wish I didn't have bills, 5090 would have been in my hands

[rose stream]

It was a nostalgia trip that just led me to realizing it wasn't that nostalgic to me as much as I thought it would be.

And it was one of the OS' I stuck with for a long while.

[buoyant bridge]

2026 is the year of shitty hardware that people like

Trust

[rose stream]

That... Comes off as a confusing statement to me.

[tidal geyser]

why you dissing on muh panther

[buoyant bridge]

my predictions are
BestBest and microcenter will open a refurbished on shelf program (laptop only, only using business models)
Walmart will stop selling HP products

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/pather-black-panther-gif-11386924

[drowsy isle]

bestbest

[buoyant bridge]

we will return to low end laptops by the stores only selling high end laptops new and forcing consumers to buy older high end laptops used as the cheap option

[tidal geyser]

i think hes drunk

[drowsy isle]

We should stop consuming and touch grass 😔

[tidal geyser]

what if im consuming to repair and resell used

[buoyant bridge]

Best buy is expanding it's e waste collection and ended it's contracts with a bunch of county dumps on ewaste they've gotta do something with it

[worthy pumice]

Geforce feels like overpriced junk these days 😭 wth happened

[buoyant bridge]

either they fix it and put it on their shelves or they send it somewhere else and the same thing happens

[plain cypress]

If reviews match the anticipation, panther lake is shaping up to be great

[rose stream]

And then it'll be very few people generally who will buy whatsoever because the lockdowns already screwed over most of the pc/laptop market anyway, as the general majority mostly already bought whatever they wanted or needed and may still have what they got to this day.

[winter lantern]

Theyre good tho 🥺

[drowsy isle]

All the shortages and being in a duopoly(basically a monopoly) made it clear that nvidia can charge whatever they want. Now throw in ram shortages from AI and it's even worse

[buoyant bridge]

Or they do the microcenter solution and put it in a massive warehouse and forget it exists till it's old enough nobody cares it they junk it

[tidal geyser]

i so badly want myself a panther

but i know my wallet does not

[worthy pumice]

Not really, an AMD card that performs identical is much less

[plain cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/floppy-floppa-gif-21921987

Shit that's a floppa

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/twintails-azumanga-daioh-osaka-chiyo-wings-gif-5106989688368465032

[buoyant bridge]

also we got 5+ year old amd CPUs coming back so

[sharp ivy]

I've been enjoying wolfdale lately

gaming on that

[buoyant bridge]

even if the companies don't give us used shit finally amd will at least fulfill the shitty hardware

[tidal geyser]

anything before lake is something

[worthy pumice]

?

[winter lantern]

9070xt is like 700$ might as well pay more for a 5070ti

[sharp ivy]

:3

[tidal geyser]

floppa lake next year

[plain cypress]

Oh dear God is that fucking core 2

[buoyant bridge]

AMDs reviving some AM4 CPUs which are definitely showing their age to fight raising ram prices

[drowsy isle]

Are they bringing back the zen 3 x3ds?

[plain cypress]

Ban

[worthy pumice]

Actually found one for about 380 EUR

[sharp ivy]

why

[buoyant bridge]

Zen 3 and Zen 2 CPUs so mabye

[rose stream]

And now they're fully confident they don't even need to stay in the consumer market, so they may just end up leaving it behind, thus leaving us with Intel, AMD, and (over in China anyway) Moorethreads.

[worthy pumice]

So might just be the USA

[winter lantern]

9060xt

[plain cypress]

AMD hasn't said they are as of 2026/01/09

[worthy pumice]

Yes, the 16GB version, found it on Amazon for 380

[winter lantern]

Thats not the 9070xt

[plain cypress]

Keep in mind, ddr4 is also going up in price

[winter lantern]

Which is what I said

[tidal geyser]

xd

[worthy pumice]

Ok, 385 but still

[drowsy isle]

would be a good idea for them to do with all the people still on am4

[buoyant bridge]

They considered it and it's gonna be Zen 3 and mabye Zen 2 I refuse to believe anything older will come back due to chipsets

[sharp ivy]

super tech games

[tidal geyser]

this is the only reason i believe they are going up right now

meh not only but a major part, panic

[buoyant bridge]

Some 500 series boards won't boot Ryzen 1000 and some Ryzen 2000 chips

[winter lantern]

Yeah i did too

[plain cypress]

They asked "Zen 3 x3d"
There has been no indication of zen3 x3d production resuming

[tired bear]

am6 will be ddr4 again at this pace

[tidal geyser]

i think amd scrapped everything pre zen 2

[drowsy isle]

Guys repeat after me. The more you buy the more you save.

[tidal geyser]

considering they are only using zen 2 or better now a days

[worthy pumice]

I think the only country mostly affected by the shortages is the one with tariffs

[buoyant bridge]

Yeah I dobut the fabs r even in existence anymore tbh

[tidal geyser]

they are

[tulip depot]

The more you buy the more you save

[buoyant bridge]

Are they? Usually fabs won't do older tech anymore

[winter lantern]

Go look at ram then lol

[tidal geyser]

what else are they meant to do

[plain cypress]

X3D requires more advanced packaging than regular chiplets

It's more expensive to do and may be capacity constrained

Both of those make it unlikely to revive an old zen3 x3d production line

[rose stream]

"It might not be entirely what you wanted, but if you got what you needed and it serves you well, hold onto it till it can't serve you anymore."

[winter lantern]

That has nothing to do with what I said i proved you wrong

[plain cypress]

TSMC N7 lines are still kicking

[winter lantern]

I dont think that label is a good sign

[buoyant bridge]

Zen+ is 12nm

[plain cypress]

Are we not talking about zen2/3???

[rose stream]

Yes.

[worthy pumice]

Thats not amazon

[buoyant bridge]

Older than Zen 2

[tidal geyser]

aka why amd is not making it at all

like i said amd is still using zen 2

[plain cypress]

Okay if the question was for Zen+
That's Global Foundry 12nm (14nm++) and it is state of the art for global foundries

[winter lantern]

Amazon prices are bad newegg is just tech amazon

[buoyant bridge]

I said the fabs for older then Zen 2 probably don't exist anymore

[buoyant bridge]

Wild

[rose stream]

No, they do. They're just not used by AMD anymore and AMD would have no plans to.
Hell, I don't even think GloFlo would even be interested in doing it all over again either.

[frigid blade]

all you gotta do is charge back if it doesnt work

[plain cypress]

Maybe you should research before speculating

[tidal geyser]

i think the 7900 XTX had some 14nm parts

[buoyant bridge]

TBF I jumped into that one without googling so

[plain cypress]

I thought the MCD were 7nm
Actually they're N6

[worthy pumice]

Are gigabyte gpus bad

[winter lantern]

I doubt they'll do that when you bought something legit

[buoyant bridge]

yes but no

[plain cypress]

Navi 31/32
GCD N5
MCDs N6

[winter lantern]

Like if you buy a gpu on ebay and it doesn't work that's on you

[worthy pumice]

Huh

[buoyant bridge]

all GPU brands end up having a bad product at some point ask about a specific model

[frigid blade]

if you buy a gpu on ebay listed as open box, it means its supposed to work, if it doesnt, eBay will refund you

[worthy pumice]

9060XT

16GB batch

[plain cypress]

I'm sure GloFo would happily sell AMD more 14/12nm wafers but nobody should be wanting Zen/Zen+ to come back

Although zen2/3 IO dies were GloFo iirc so I guess that's something

[frigid blade]

if eBay doesnt refund you, you can charge back with proof that it was listed as open box and it did not work, the bank will side with you

[tidal geyser]

ok yea i was wrong, swear i heard something about something higher tho

[buoyant bridge]

Doesn't seem to be many bad reviews about the 16GB

[tidal geyser]

zen 2 is still being used on mobile hardware

[plain cypress]

Also AMD still produces zen2 and zen3 based apus for mobile
With the later having active desktop packaging

(All TSMC)

[tired bear]

just make am5 chips on shittier node

[plain cypress]

Samsung Foundry fan?

[tidal geyser]

due to how easy it is to spot just being XXGX g for generation i tend to check out the kinda laptops people buy

[buoyant bridge]

I checked Amazon and Newegg reviews lmfao it's just people complaining about zero rpm😭 😭 😭

[tidal geyser]

and wow is it sad when i see a 2

aka most times

brand new laptop with zen 2

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/electric-fan-wind-turn-hot-fan-gif-4860088

[tidal geyser]

die would be massive

[buoyant bridge]

All the 1 star reviews for it on Amazon r just this or cards that where unlucky and needed rma

[plain cypress]

They do
It's called the IO die :)

[tired bear]

average samsung fan

[frigid blade]

or, sometimes a charge back will wake up the other side IE amazon to hurry tf up

I had to charge back on an item that amazon said they refunded and it didnt refund for a month, then when I opened the dispute the next day amazon sent out the refund

[rose stream]

Sooo on NXP's processes or something?

[buoyant bridge]

LG OLED now

LG OLED all the products

[tired bear]

and it would be 🔥

[tidal geyser]

i love not having amazon in my country

[winter lantern]

sucks for you

[frigid blade]

amazon is super convenient because of the next day delivery on so many products

[tidal geyser]

why

[worthy pumice]

Lucky I live somewhere where I have three years warranty if the card fails out of nowhere even with careful use

[winter lantern]

not having amazon sounds like it sucks? not much to question

[tidal geyser]

that part could be nice, bit annoying waiting for like a laptop battery to come all the way from china on a boat

[tidal geyser]

i dono i have 2 feet

[frigid blade]

sometimes you can order before 12am and you get it at 9 am, I love it

[winter lantern]

but like amazon has everything

[tidal geyser]

but you do not need everything

[worthy pumice]

I like amazon because customer service with them is smooth when they fuck up

[buoyant bridge]

sadly that's only in some areas for awhile sometimes

[winter lantern]

but like sometimes id rather not get off my ass to get it

also too specific products

[buoyant bridge]

if a warehouse unionizes they'll just close it down and fire everyone

[tidal geyser]

that is kinda a issue

[winter lantern]

thats lowkey fair

based for that

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/attacked-josh-carter-south-park-machines-accident-gif-19503301

[buoyant bridge]

how? Also it delays shipping heavily

[frigid blade]

Aren’t they using robots in warehouses now?

Or is that still like testing

[winter lantern]

why would you comply? just ignore them

[buoyant bridge]

yeah but the drivers r still a warehouse worker under Amazon's terms

[buoyant bridge]

Because they can take you to court

[tired bear]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBVggGXGxxc

[frigid blade]

I sometimes get packages from Amazon in random cars lol

[tired bear]

actual patent btw

[worthy pumice]

To me its crazy that a 8GB 5060 is worth the same as a 16GB 9060XT

[tidal geyser]

o yea here is a fun thing within amazons software department, most of the devs are under H-1B so they work as hard as they can or else they can get fired and are forced out of the US

[buoyant bridge]

That's amazon flex! It's where they pay random ass people to deliver a few packages when they can't

[winter lantern]

i lowkey wanna work at amazon cause the pay is good

but 12h shifts sound so ass

[worthy pumice]

Like double the ram

[tidal geyser]

pay is good?

[frigid blade]

Like I got my pc parts from a guy and he was obviously high and my package smelled like weed

[buoyant bridge]

no it's not lmfao?

[tidal geyser]

never heard anyone say that

[buoyant bridge]

Amazon r the lowest paid of all shipping employees

[frigid blade]

My friend will disagree with you

[worthy pumice]

For the same? Like make it make sense

[winter lantern]

in america atleast

[tidal geyser]

with zero benefits too i would imagine

[frigid blade]

He did Amazon now does UPS, they’re both shit pay for the amount of work you do

[buoyant bridge]

UPS drivers make up to iirc $50/h

[buoyant bridge]

Nah the benefits aren't bad actually

[winter lantern]

good for a job with no experience

[buoyant bridge]

they're about as good as the military is if you take away VA stuff

[tired bear]

i dont get employers who insist on 12h shifts
like bruh you get paid hourly anyway, just hire 3 people instead of 2

[frigid blade]

If you get the hours tho, like they’re super over staffed in some places

[tidal geyser]

o i thought they were "independent contractors"

[buoyant bridge]

some r most aren't

[latent gull]

Training, insurance, liability

[tired bear]

thats for delivery drivers bullshit

[frigid blade]

My friend works at one, he says all he has to do is clock in an hour and they ask if he wants to go home after and he says yah, and he keeps all the benefits

[buoyant bridge]

Amazon has very very very wide types and management for staff, basically no 2 Amazon workers have the same anything

If you negotiate for a good employee contract you can have okay benefits

[tired bear]

you will have bigger liability when people work sleep deprived, half asleap

[winter lantern]

i thought 20.50$ was good right after hs. ig sense i like tech i should just have hundreds of thousands tho

😔

[frigid blade]

UPS pays for college if you’re part time which is nice

[buoyant bridge]

the average cost to hire an employee is 6 months of that employees highest possible pay

[worthy pumice]

GDDR6 AND GDDR7 isnt a debate when the GDDR6 card has double the vram of the GDDR7 one, right?

[frigid blade]

$20/hr for the work they put you through is not good pay

[tidal geyser]

gddr7 does not make it more vram just faster

[winter lantern]

a 3090ti is 5070 preformence

[frigid blade]

Why was there no 4090 ti

[buoyant bridge]

You can make $20/h doing stuff that doesn't even require high school education nowadays

[worthy pumice]

I know that

[frigid blade]

Go into high school middle school tech admin, you can get 6 figures for not doing shit

[tired bear]

you can but your body will take a toll

[worthy pumice]

Now 3090ti vs 9060XT?

[winter lantern]

well the 5070 is much better than the 9060xt

so take a guess

[buoyant bridge]

bidfta hires in my area at $28/h for forklift drivers which ain't a very hard job and pays for all your training and certifications if you start a 1 year contract with them

[frigid blade]

My old friend does that, he works for a middle school and doesn’t do anything other than help kids reset passwords and he makes bank

[winter lantern]

dang sounds like the dream 😔

[worthy pumice]

But the 3060ti isnt a 5070 because it isnt GDDR7

[buoyant bridge]

a lot of specialized jobs in warehouses r very easy except specialized training and they'll pay for your training if you're okay being a contracted worker and you end up with like $30/h+

[quick stag]

me and my dad dont know how to spend money

[tired bear]

source: made it up

[quick stag]

lol.

[winter lantern]

true

[frigid blade]

It’s not, if you work enough years that’s what you can get

[buoyant bridge]

Nah I know tons of people lower down in IT it's true

[winter lantern]

i have friend = anecdotal evidence

[quick stag]

nice

[tidal geyser]

this entire tower is cheaper than one of those laptops

[frigid blade]

I didn’t say my friend makes that, I just said you can

[quick stag]

the mbp on the right is 2300 euro 😭

[buoyant bridge]

you can get into the lower 6 figure salary's with basically no education via IT if you're somewhat familiar with it, most roles in IT they prefer to train you themselves just you need to be a contracted worker

[winter lantern]

bro was bored

[worthy pumice]

Also the 3060ti is only 8gb, comparing that to 16GB, the 9060XT should demolish it

[tired bear]

there is clear consensus that school and hospital IT is horrible place to be

[tidal geyser]

what else can you do with a mountain of laptops

[winter lantern]

youre just an ewaste collecter aint you

[frigid blade]

Keep going add more

[buoyant bridge]

School IT if you're lower down is fine but you're only making at most $180K a year

[tidal geyser]

well i buy e-waste and turn it into not that

[quick stag]

i collect vintage macs and other vintage tech

[frigid blade]

“Only”

[buoyant bridge]

$180K a year isn't actually a ton of money for skilled jobs

[winter lantern]

"Most"

[tidal geyser]

if you study it in Norway for whatever reason you learn almost nothing

[worthy pumice]

I used to have an iBook G3. Got rid of it though.

[quick stag]

whyyyy

[winter lantern]

180k a year is great when youre not in the big 3 states

[buoyant bridge]

Back when I was doing contracting I pulled in $500K a year for 8 years straight fyi 😭

[worthy pumice]

Didn’t have the charger for it and it was just wasting space. There was no real use for it either. I have a newer mac to sync my ipods to.

[tired bear]

this is aplicable to any country
if you dont do stuff yourself outside of classes you will have little to no real world knowlege

[winter lantern]

ig everyone is just rich in these servers

[buoyant bridge]

$180K is GREAT for a first job but it's NOT good when you can't make a carrer out of it there and your experience there means nothing elsewhere

[quick stag]

eye candy is the use

[worthy pumice]

Not to me. It was just collecting dust.

[frigid blade]

I could retire on $180k for the rest of my working life happily

[buoyant bridge]

Most people you'll meet in the calmer tech discords either worked trade jobs for years and own companies currently or work IT and make bank

[frigid blade]

You people spend too much money

[winter lantern]

180k is like the highest most jobs go

[tidal geyser]

kinda fair but at the same time i feel like it might also be something about students not even wanting to try and learn as we have had so many things at school and when we need to do it again people always take way too much time

or are unable to do it

[buoyant bridge]

literally every job I've worked except for a few during high school had wayy higher top pays than that

[tired bear]

well thats education for ya

[buoyant bridge]

I've not done anything ever that requires a college education fyi just skilled trade jobs

[winter lantern]

i just feel like college wont get my anywhere and not going will also not get me anywhere 😔

[buoyant bridge]

Do you care about the job you'd have to go to college for

ultimately shoot for a job you enjoy even if it pays less

[tired bear]

and if you are in us you will have nice 30k+ of debt slapped on you

[frigid blade]

College is more for networking than the education now

[buoyant bridge]

you're gonna be working 40-50 years do something you enjoy

[frigid blade]

lol, yah if you go private

[winter lantern]

yeah but im bad at that so its pointless

[tidal geyser]

im living away from home and get paid by the government and never have to pay it back

[frigid blade]

You can get paid for going to college, evidence: me

[buoyant bridge]

Most college students either go community college or get scholarships

[tired bear]

same, i got it for free

[buoyant bridge]

Only REALLY dumb people have college debt in the US

[tidal geyser]

how does that work

[frigid blade]

Well, if you’re going to be a lawyer or something you’ll have debt

Can’t really get around that for most people

[buoyant bridge]

Most people with unpaid college debt (except doctors or long time college debt) aren't working a job they went to college for anyways because they hated it and really should have gone to community college

[frigid blade]

Yah I can agree with that

[buoyant bridge]

Doctors have horrible college debt if they didn't get scholarships

[winter lantern]

well youre supposed to start with community college

[tidal geyser]

do you have any data to back that up

[winter lantern]

common sense

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[buoyant bridge]

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/students/academics/2024/02/22/more-half-recent-four-year-college-grads-underemployed

[frigid blade]

https://www.burningglassinstitute.org/news/half-of-college-grads-are-working-jobs-that-dont-use-their-degrees#:~:text=Burning Glass Institute-,WSJ: Half of College Grads Are Working Jobs,Don't Use Their Degrees&text=A new study by the,read the full article here.

[winter lantern]

my state gives 2 free years of community college so ima use that

[buoyant bridge]

This too

[tidal geyser]

i have seen charts of this before but from what i remember its more about people being unable to find a job

[buoyant bridge]

that's people that graduated these aren't even factoring drop outs

[limpid ivy]

Something similar but not state, was through my high school if I went to the community college that was next to it.

[buoyant bridge]

Around 33% drop out so

[plain cypress]

This is me, kinda

[winter lantern]

this makes me think of youtubers with degrees

[limpid ivy]

Did I do that ehhh no, for whatever reason I choose to go the furthest one 30 minutes away from my home

[buoyant bridge]

I could realistically go to OSU still and have a really good looking degree but there's no point to me anymore

[frigid blade]

This will be me, I got my associates in cybersecurity, but I only took it to get a little more education on a few specific classes in it

I’m most likely going to be a network engineer

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/osu-gif-osugif-osumove-osudance-gif-16213964427952130347

[winter lantern]

the best one is like 30min away from me 🥀 def gonna not work out

[fringe prairie]

i’m curious what are the big 3 states

[plain cypress]

My degree was computer engineering
I work in semiconductor manufacturing

Is it in my degree field? No.
Is it related enough? Sure.

[winter lantern]

ny cali and texas

[frigid blade]

NY, Cali, Texas maybe

[plain cypress]

Oregano state University maybe

[fringe prairie]

ah makes sense

[mint umbra]

decieded to not go with linux too many negitives

[winter lantern]

i jsut made that term up

[limpid ivy]

Rip tbf I did look at the major I was getting into. That one further out was a lot better so I had a reason at least.

[buoyant bridge]

I have a 4.95 GPA but never went to college 😭 (well I dropped out)

[winter lantern]

i dont have a 4.0 so no scholarships for me 3.9 is too low

😔

[buoyant bridge]

4.0 weighted or unweighted?

cus 4.0 is the max possible unweighted

[winter lantern]

well im talking about hs

[frigid blade]

I have a 3.25 or something

[plain cypress]

There were people in my high school that existed solely for GPA.

They took AP classes they had no interest in just because they were 5.0 gpa scale

[winter lantern]

yes that

[tidal geyser]

btw this is the actual paper about this also 56 pages so uh give me some time
https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/6777c52f82e5471a3732ea25/679a6fadfda4220bbac585d7_Talent-Disrupted-2.pdf

[limpid ivy]

Ironic I found out after the Film/TV program where I went basically absorbed any film equipment from the other local community colleges that had something similar but it failed so the equipment had to be sold off somewhere.

[buoyant bridge]

yea unweighted doesn't consider stuff like AP classes

[frigid blade]

I graduated high school with a 1.7, and had a 1.3 at some point

[winter lantern]

never took a single one

[winter lantern]

bum

[buoyant bridge]

is it ur normal GPA or the one on ur transcripts?

[winter lantern]

yep

[frigid blade]

I’m a bum doing better than most of the kids that I went to class with are

[winter lantern]

well were you a bum in hs

[buoyant bridge]

the one you'll get when you graduate is the unweighted one normally. your transcripts have the weighted one

[frigid blade]

I still am, just with money

[buoyant bridge]

3.9 is nearly perfected for unweighted and still very good for weighted

unless ur like Australian cus it goes to 9.0 on Australian grading scales

US ones go to 5.05 weighted max

[frigid blade]

I remember moving from 1 through 5 to ABCDF grading scale

It was weird

[winter lantern]

my act score is extremely average so no scholarships fr

[buoyant bridge]

my husband was literally below average and got scholarships idk what you mean😭

[tidal geyser]

"Underemployment carries a heavy financial cost. A recent graduate
employed in a college-level job typically earns about 88 percent more than a high-
school diploma holder, while an underemployed graduate typically earns only about
25 percent more than someone with no education beyond high school.3 This leaves
underemployed graduates on weaker financial footing as they start their careers,
especially those with substantial student loan debt."

[tired bear]

army recruiters:

[frigid blade]

I was going to join until I met some people in my area of tech

[buoyant bridge]

going for a job that's been in shortage since before you started college ain't that smart

Most college educated jobs in the US have been in shortage since 2008-2010

[frigid blade]

I kid you not, becoming friends with a Jewish guy basically turned around all of that stuff 😂

The jokes write themselves

[limpid ivy]

They still be trying to entice me even though I am not a low gpa . But I found a way to make them stop talking to me fast.

[winter lantern]

0.1 gpa mfs when they relize you still need a gpa for trade school

[buoyant bridge]

nah they're better at getting well educated people (ask my husband)

granted my husband used the FUCK out of his education stuff through the VA

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/king-of-the-hill-dale-gribble-pocket-sand-pocket-sand-gif-3699662

[frigid blade]

Starting at $33k/year at 18 and capping at $180k in your mid 20s you can retire with like $16m

After taxes, spending, etc

[winter lantern]

it doesnt go like ts

[buoyant bridge]

my husband dead ass just joined the military because joining the military is essentially a very good start to your life for your whole family once you marry, then he marries someone who's been making 5x what he's making since he finished high school 😭 😭 😭

[limpid ivy]

Oh I was gonna say just casually talk about war crimes. I've said worse stuff in the past if provoked.

[frigid blade]

He’s still in it?

[buoyant bridge]

yeah

[winter lantern]

unmatched benefits tho

[tired bear]

geneva suggestions

[limpid ivy]

Basically

[buoyant bridge]

He's not retiring till hes literally forced to he loves his job

[frigid blade]

That must suck for you tho

[buoyant bridge]

(so probably in 3-4 years cus he's almost 30)

[frigid blade]

It’s probably worth it in the long run, military gets good retirement right?

[buoyant bridge]

not really he's stationed 40 minutes down the road and since we're married he gets to live off base

[buoyant bridge]

I mean yeah but we're probably not gonna even use his retirement benefits 😭

[winter lantern]

well it would suck for him

[frigid blade]

Oh that’s sick, I thought he’d be across the world or something

[tired bear]

i cannot imagine commuting 40 minutes *2 each day lol

[buoyant bridge]

military families typically won't be forced to leave the state

[winter lantern]

thats america for you

[tidal geyser]

im way too sleepy to keep reading

[frigid blade]

Huh, that’s not even that long

[buoyant bridge]

I don't think you realized I drive 2000-6000 miles a month

[winter lantern]

what did you say you were

[frigid blade]

Europe moment

[clear canyon]

Holy fuck dude 😭😭😭

[buoyant bridge]

Owner of 3 companies now😭

[tired bear]

i currently commute 7 minutes from door of my house to the door of the business

[tidal geyser]

das about the time i take on the bus

[frigid blade]

I’m not kidding, but it’s not cuz I was dumb I just focused on my own hobbies instead of school and it worked out

[buoyant bridge]

slowly becoming an investment banker though, I invested in opening 6 phone stores a few months ago and have already made a return on everything I put in by just having them contracted to make a few really simple but smart choices😭

[frigid blade]

Oh the flip phones

Who’s actually buying them, old people?

[tired bear]

yea i dont use public transit, closest stop is 15min walk away lol

[buoyant bridge]

Mostly old people and parents buying them for their kids

they outsell literally everything else in stock idk why they're so hard to find

[limpid ivy]

Now do that and make it depending where I have to go 30min-2 hours each way. Albeit the return might be less or even longer depending on traffic.

Not everyday but sometimes many days at a time if said film is being shot at a single location for that long

[tired bear]

longest continuous drive i did was 1100km lol

[rose stream]

I graduated highschool with 2.9.

And I insisted on doing so because I refused to get a GED.

[limpid ivy]

I'm usually fine with doing the commutes. Minus the times the locations are in sketchy parts of LA till late at night, but in those cases I always carpool with 2 people onto set.

[frigid blade]

I just finished college, I’m so ready to start working somewhere nice

I got an offer from a guy I know who works at Encore Global

If I can get a spot there it would be so sick

They set up the audio, networking, etc at events

You travel 1-2 times a month to do it, the rest of the time you spend planning

[buoyant bridge]

I drove from Ohio to NYC to meet with the owners of a bank I wanted to buy out entirely and then to California to buy a Buick Grand National for my car collection and then to Alabama to see family for Thanksgiving and then finally back home to Ohio

Outcome on buying a bank was too much paperwork

[frigid blade]

Why not just fly

[buoyant bridge]

I have a bunch of classic cars I love and I like driving

[frigid blade]

Ah

[rose stream]

Hmmmmm fair enough.

[buoyant bridge]

Plane would literally be better in every way but I like driving more than the plane

[frigid blade]

Speaking of, I’m getting a charger this year, I can’t wait

They’re such nice cars

[buoyant bridge]

I've never actually owned any Dodge cars

closest I've owned to a Dodge was a Plymouth Cuda

[tired bear]

charger in question:

[frigid blade]

It’s a pursuit package though, I want a retired cop car

Just have to find a good one, low miles low idle hours

[buoyant bridge]

my Buick Grand National was used as a interceptor at one point by LAPD

[frigid blade]

I saw one sell with 27k miles and almost no idle hours for $9.6k

I was so mad

I think it was a 2020

[buoyant bridge]

damn a 2020 Mopar for $10K is wildd

[frigid blade]

Yah, it was um I forgot which department lemme check

I think homeland security, they had a whole lot of them

[buoyant bridge]

oh NVM those cars r sold cheap to avoid capitol gains tax lol

[frigid blade]

It had everything, radios, push bar, lights, sirens

Obviously you have to disable most of it but idgaf it’s such a unique car when you got the full package

[buoyant bridge]

DHS only pays like $10K brand new on those cars so they sell super fast for under $10K

[frigid blade]

The sticker price was $40k

[stray portal]

Would it be a crime to use a razer basilisk v3 at only 800 dpi

[rose stream]

<@&750150305383186585>

[frigid blade]

GSA provides the originally sticker and cost when selling those

[buoyant bridge]

If DHS or the DOD owned it it wasn't bought at sticker it was bought at a very specific government fleet price directly from FCA so it had no sticker price anyways

[frigid blade]

Weird

[winter lantern]

no hotel is insane

[buoyant bridge]

I've owned a few DHS Ford's they're never any other way I don't think that's changed either

[winter lantern]

nvm i forgot what km did

[frigid blade]

I found an old picture of it

[buoyant bridge]

Maybe the price has gone up since 2012 but they're likely still sold directly from the mfg

[frigid blade]

Such a sexy beautiful vehicle

34k miles mb

[buoyant bridge]

That sticker was probably for a similar spec vehicle off a lot not the actual price they paid

[frigid blade]

It included the police package cost in it though

Like it had a list of all the pursuit package costs

[buoyant bridge]

Maybe that's the price a dealer would pay?

[frigid blade]

idk atp

[buoyant bridge]

maybe it was a replacement or smfh bought from a dealer

DHS usually won't buy from a dealer for security concerns

[frigid blade]

I’m gonna look at the old listing gimme a bit

I have to find it, this was a few months ago

If it’s still up

[plain cypress]

Impressive since it was only announced 4 days ago...

Do you mean Lunar Lake?

[winter lantern]

they did say tommorrow

also prob just going off stats

[plain cypress]

I thought it was preorders but actual release was in about 2 weeks

[buoyant bridge]

I buy Intel PC every 8-10 years
I ignore everything that happens between then and the next one
I am never happier

[winter lantern]

just limit yourself so youre impressed by the upgrade

[buoyant bridge]

I have no reason to buy a new PC any more frequently

[winter lantern]

lowkey what im doing rn

[buoyant bridge]

I'm still rocking a 6700XT with my new desktop board😭

[plain cypress]

Gotta get a new PC every day
Once the battery runs out, throw it away and open a new one 😎

[winter lantern]

you dont need 6 blackwells?

[rose stream]

Or be me and have lived with an Arrandale-powered craptop from 2008 for 9 years before upgrading. Lol.

[buoyant bridge]

I have other PCs at work which r better gpus butttr my home desktop is a W9 3495X and 6700 XT I stole from work :D

[robust trail]

Everyone needs 6 RTX Pro 6000 Blackwells

[winter lantern]

everyone needs 24 h200s

i need to be a subset of openai

[robust trail]

or B300s

[winter lantern]

become one with them

[buoyant bridge]

Was gonna stay on a i9 12900KF but the W9 and it's board and ram was gonna get junked otherwise and it can't be sold off sooo

[frigid blade]

I lied it sold for $8,575

[verbal prawn]

Perfect pairing for my 5800x

[robust trail]

Been at CES all week and finally going home. I don't like CES or Vegas. I do... like being able to get kimik2 1T running on a single machine

[winter lantern]

with enough of these i can become ironman

[buoyant bridge]

That W9 it's Mobo and RAM can literally never be sold off fyi

[robust trail]

Now I'm waiting for a plane so I can go home and vanish for 2 weeks of vacation

[buoyant bridge]

I went from the first all new PC I ever bought to this desktop so

[winter lantern]

first pc back in 2008

🥀

[buoyant bridge]

2013 but close

[winter lantern]

dang i thought you were older

[buoyant bridge]

And I had PCs before it but never all new

[winter lantern]

i recently gained consciousness by that point

[buoyant bridge]

my last PC was a Dell T5610

$8 grand when I bought it :D

[rose stream]

My first ever pc was actually a handmedown: an old P4 system with a RIVA TNT2 for a gpu.

[frigid blade]

my first pc had the 1060 3gb

[buoyant bridge]

My first ever PC was really early Dell latitude iirc

[frigid blade]

i still have the entire first pc

but theres bent pins on the mobo

[winter lantern]

my first pc was a 1660ti laptop

[buoyant bridge]

it was mfged in the late 90s and a Dell that's all I remember

But I got a Dell T7400 briefly after

[winter lantern]

this went crazy 6 years ago

[buoyant bridge]

All my early desktop PCs where high end dells

[frigid blade]

howd you get into tech?

[buoyant bridge]

Dad worked in tech

I never actually worked in tech professionally till I owned a company

[plain cypress]

Damn I make the wafers and I can't even get my hands on it early

[mint umbra]

would have liked to try linux but wont work for me lol too many inconveniences

[plain cypress]

Although I don't need a new laptop for personal life so I shall continue to not use my rog g14 (2020) for another few years

[rose stream]

My very first computer meanwhile was actually an iMac G3 and was the only one of my first computers that I ever got brand new, particularly as a gift.

[buoyant bridge]

Owning a laptop and not using it is the most non gaming laptop thing ur not supposed to do that with gaming laptops

[rose stream]

I do still miss that old thing.

[plain cypress]

Gaming laptop just doesn't fit into my life anymore

[winter lantern]

I gamed on a gaming laptop
Im the minority fr

[buoyant bridge]

yeah but ur supposed to break the gaming laptop by abusing the shit out of it and ruin the battery by never unplugging it

[buoyant bridge]

No most get gamed on

Did you ever use it off the charger that's a minority

[winter lantern]

No

[plain cypress]

I did game on my gaming laptop when it fit into my life but it's been 2 years since I've really used it

[winter lantern]

My gaming laptop actually had a bad issue with the charger port

So it stopped working after a few years

[rose stream]

Sadly, after something on it's board to do with the internal clock and the clock battery (basically replacing the battery didn't solve the issues) and as I was unable to do anything about it, my mom decided to just junk against my protest.

[buoyant bridge]

I don't get the point of a gaming laptop just get a desktop for gaming

[plain cypress]

Portability

I mean the entire purpose is portability

[rose stream]

Still frustrated by that and now she's disappointed she did after discovering their high value these days.

[buoyant bridge]

Most of my old PCs even ones from my childhood r SOMEWHERE in my house or in a storage container with other shit in Quebec

[plain cypress]

But also some people are like, how else do I describe, afraid of desktops

[frigid blade]

patiently waiting for my turn

[rose stream]

This sounds oddly, vaguely familiar to me somehow in conversational experience with this coming up in some form, just not exactly going like that?

[buoyant bridge]

I have 2 conex boxes with most of my shit from when I lived in Quebec still in Quebec that I pay $13/month to store

[frigid blade]

100th in the waitlist 😭

[plain cypress]

A lot of apple users who want to get into PC gaming tend to go for gaming laptops

Not limited to apple users though

[rose stream]

With me, it was with the more general crowd that weren't just Apple users.

[buoyant bridge]

I know most parents r scared of desktops so gaming laptops make sense with teens ig

[frigid blade]

which sucks, because of the price to performance difference

[rose stream]

And they were this way with normal computers in general.

[plain cypress]

Like we're in the minority as people with personal desktops

The laptop is most people's idea of a truly personal computer

[frigid blade]

with cloud gaming theres no need for regular people to buy a desktop

[buoyant bridge]

like factually or just assumed/method of speech?

[plain cypress]

If I could go back and not buy my current gaming laptop I would

Although my first gaming laptop was a great buy at the time and I loved that 10lb behemoth of plastic

[rose stream]

And there are some who still mistake a monitor for being the computer itself and it's not even the ones you can actually embed one into. Lol.

[plain cypress]

Genuinely more humans own laptops than desktops

[rose stream]

As a kid, I didn't think much of pcs at that time till I ran into hardware limits on the one I ended up with that I wasn't sure how to get past regardless of settings to the games I played at the time.

[pulsar hill]

someone help, my friend wants to pair a 9060XT with his 9900k and im trying to tell him its not worth it 😭

[plain cypress]

It's probably fine

[pulsar hill]

wont it be bottlenecked?

[plain cypress]

I didn't really care about PCs until college

[rose stream]

Then again, I grew up playing lighter, older games on a much older machine before it, then of course the games that you originally could get for iMacs of the PPC era, and then of course consoles from 5th to 6th gen.

[plain cypress]

It should be fine enough

<@&750150305383186585>

[buoyant bridge]

That's probably fine

[buoyant bridge]

what kind of games is he playing?

cus that's gonna be a pretty fair combo in terms of bottlenecks tbh esp if you're playing at like 1440P

1080P it might be a CPU bottleneck actually

9900K is 8 years old

[plain cypress]

You can always upgrade the CPU platform down the line

[buoyant bridge]

I think there's another gen of CPUs on 300 series isn't there?

or does 400 series start with 10th gen

[winter lantern]

Being bottlenecked is fun trust

You get to show people screenshot of your specs and they think its funny

🔥

[buoyant bridge]

W9 3495X and 6700 XT

Previously 12900K and 6700 XT

[plain cypress]

Real shame 290k Plus wasn't announced at CES

[winter lantern]

You have the money you just dont care so mine is more funny

[winter lantern]

No desktop = no care

[plain cypress]

It's a desktop chip

[winter lantern]

Its not because its not a thing

[buoyant bridge]

no I just took that board and CPU from work so it didnt get thrown away

it has a bad memory slot </3

[plain cypress]

Fine, theoretically a desktop chip if it exists

Damn bro got yeeted before I could tag mods

But the other crypto scam is still there???

[winter lantern]

Intel probably makes the most money selling laptops and to prebuilt companies

[plain cypress]

Laptop segment is huge

[buoyant bridge]

my bottleneck knows NO BOUNDS

[woeful phoenix]

Yeah tons of info coming out showing the steam machine will be 1k

[spark path]

should I keep this on or turn it off?

[woeful phoenix]

On

[robust trail]

I was hoping to see $3800 USD for 2TB and $4300 for the 512GB.

So I can continue to watch gamers cry.

https://tenor.com/view/drinkingtears-tears-southpark-south-park-gif-6075353580716070009

[ivory mountain]

thats rude

[woeful phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-right-gif-9743588

[robust trail]

lol

[ivory mountain]

too bad i wont be crying i have my ssds already

[robust trail]

booya

[rose stream]

I was kind of expecting it really.

[winter lantern]

It uses micro sd

[ivory mountain]

meow

[winter lantern]

Bro flexing ts 🥀

[winter lantern]

What yall know about storage spread

[ivory mountain]

peak

i assume these are all m.2 ssds

i see mfs flexing 8tb of storage all the time then 6tb of it ends up being hard drives then its like wtf

[winter lantern]

Yep

[ivory mountain]

omg another asrock taichi user

🔥

[winter lantern]

I mean its not like you actually need that much for games

[robust trail]

I ordered one of those Herman Millier Logitech chairs because my back is getting pretty darn sick of my 10 year old main gear chair. Maybe my back will like this new chair more.

[frigid blade]

why cant i see this

is this 25H2?

mine looks like this

[latent gull]

There’s 1 leak no? all this info is coming from 1 leak

[oblique jay]

Any other 34" ultrawide recommendations other than the aw3425dw?
Its £700, bit more thst i was aiming to spent. Someone said they got theirs at 500 on sale.

Also how bad is text fringing or is that different for each model, sounds off putting but seems mixed, some ssy they notice it others say they dont

[hoary tree]

steam machine is DOA

[mint umbra]

does having to many dongels connected to pc cause interference

feels like my one mouse is like skipping around at times

[frigid blade]

unplug them and test it again

[buoyant bridge]

Yeah but it's been around since 22H2 where r u checking

It's only not in LTSC

[frigid blade]

settings -> system -> about

[plush wren]

just do winver

[frigid blade]

wow, really only not in LTSC

lol

[buoyant bridge]

yeah it was even back ported to windows 10

[frigid blade]

thats kinda dumb

[buoyant bridge]

https://x.com/i/status/2009757112793215399 Microsoft caring more about businesses

BobPony.com (@TheBobPony)

Microsoft has finally listened to its... business users.
Windows 11 Beta and Dev insider build 26220.7535 has a new group policy to remove Microsoft Copilot app.

However, there's a catch...
- Microsoft 365 Copilot and Microsoft Copilot are both installed
- Microsoft Copilot app

X · Jan 9, 2026, 10:40 PM

The next ltsc release will 100% include copilot

[frigid blade]

lets go

at least you can disable

[buoyant bridge]

I mean you already could it was just more annoying

[frigid blade]

i love having to un-compress my code

so much fun

I keep it super compressed while devving so that I have less overall lines and makes it easier to move around

but now its annoying to get it production ready

[ivory mountain]

holy shit

YES

[mint umbra]

its still fornite

adding skins dont change that

brs in general aint as fun as they used to be

[tired bear]

Above it

[ivory mountain]

i would empty my bank account to play as denji in fortnite

[frigid blade]

I dont got it, apparently LTSC dont got it

[mint umbra]

I wouldnt

[tired bear]

yea ltsc

[mint umbra]

I dont want to give epic more money

[tired bear]

it looks like IOT editions dont have it

[buoyant bridge]

since when did a IoT non ltsc version even exist?

[tired bear]

whole rack worth of servers lol

[tired bear]

since windows 10

[frigid blade]

reserve, yuck

[junior merlin]

I found a couple things in my closet

RX 480 and GTX Titan

[rose sorrel]

Will this printer work on till I get a1 ?

[dusty dew]

depends on use case

[iron saddle]

Hey yall so my friend was helping me uninstall old drivers from my gpu since i just got a new one and he installed the ethernet drivers and now i habe no clue how to get it back

[rose sorrel]

Basic prints

This kinda of stuff

https://makerworld.com/en/models/2182981-losi-nascar-motor-mason-jar-break-in-fixture

this kind of stuff

[vale lotus]

How dare you assualt my eyes with that much code

[frigid blade]

it used to be worse, hold on lemme get it

[vale lotus]

Nooo

[frigid blade]

thats the javascript

used to be

[oblique jay]

Thought? £599.99

[glossy veldt]

woah a titan

[rose sorrel]

Flash forge 3d printers any good ?

[glossy veldt]

sadly no more good looking founders edition cards like the blower style cards

[junior merlin]

Yeah. Gonna see if I can put it in an old desktop and sell it.

[dusty dew]

hmm

so it seems on checking, windows 11 25h2 sucks

and still is not fixed despite being 4 months old

[ivory mountain]

Chat im going to college for electrical engineering

[dusty dew]

Gl, 4 years?

itll be hard at the start, but youll make it if you love doing it

[buoyant bridge]

The blower cards where a very maximalist design back when PCs had a bunch of shit that made them look very messy and they looked good in it

Now they're minimalist and look good with modern clean PC builds

[dusty dew]

ugh its hard trying to fix this stutter

[wheat torrent]

what do you mean

the new founders are nice

AIBs don't do low key professional looking shit like this

[ivory mountain]

2 to start off

[wheat torrent]

maybe the proarts?

yeah I would say pro arts kinda on same level

[ivory mountain]

I alr know a ton

[silent gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCGT_CKGgFE the honey scam from last year got even worse. 💀

[frail sequoia]

I’m getting these soon

[clear canyon]

Why

[ivory mountain]

because they wanna be different by buying an ipod and using basic ass earbuds to larp on tiktok about audio quality

[clear canyon]

waste of money tbh

[ivory mountain]

gambling would be a better roi than that shit

[robust trail]

I like it.

[wheat torrent]

you can make those samsung ones sound very very good

[plain cypress]

Surely you could just play PSP games on your phone

[robust trail]

I would wait and get that A1. The Bambu printers are so easy to use and require almost no fuckery.

[crisp cosmos]

I have a 7900XTX, 7 7800XD , DDR5 32 GB. I reset my PC because I had so many mods for so many different games (single player ) and i didn’t crash just my pc got a little slow now that it’s empty it’s crashing. I downloaded AMD Adrenaline, gigabytes control. Update my windows. What am I missing ?? I can’t plays games on 1440p or else it will crash I need pls thank you .

[ivory mountain]

go to amd driver version before 25.10.1, i was crashing a lot too and this fixed it

im using 25.6.1

[crisp cosmos]

really

[dusty dew]

Making electrical explosions is top tier

[ivory mountain]

ive done that before 🥀

[dusty dew]

I am that type of luck in electrical

luckily I am not that kind in pc building

[rose sorrel]

That flash forge is easy to use too

[tribal estuary]

Anybody know why I might be getting such atrocious performance on "everybody's gone to the rapture" with my 3070? Literally an unstable 30 fps with GPU performance only at about 20 percent

[rocky bobcat]

If I get no display on motherboard, or gpu guessing I got a faulty motherboard?

[glossy veldt]

that's a very good take on design, but it's a personal decision which i prefer blower style gpus

[glossy veldt]

i may have hated too much on current founders editions, since you're absolutely right AIBs make way worse designs

if i had to rank the founders editions card the 30 and 40 series looked way better than the 20 series did and possibly the 50 series

[abstract rampart]

I have 3 monitors and a 7900XTX; 2 of the monitors are set at 240Hz and the 3rd one is maxed at 60Hz. Im watching a Twitch stream on the 60Hz monitor and another on either of the 240Hz panels. all 3 screens 'drop' to a max of 30fps, and it only happens when theres video playing on a 60Hz AND 240Hz panel, but not when there are videos on both 240Hz panels and no video playing on the 60Hz panel

Is there a setting in Win11 or through AMD Adrenalin that I have to toggle off in order to maintain that buttery smoothness across all 3 monitors and prevent it from all 3 playing videos at 30fps? Or would I need to drop the max framerate on one of the 240Hz panel to something more manageable by the GPU?

[clear canyon]

What is your settings at

[wheat torrent]

this is the best FE imo

[tribal estuary]

Nvm I found a fix online and it worked

[glossy veldt]

i'm not hating on it but i wouldn't buy it if i had the money

[wheat torrent]

though this kinda baller also

[glossy veldt]

what is that chonker of a graphics card

[wheat torrent]

titan rtx 4090 I think

it has decent size

[glossy veldt]

yeah no shit

[wheat torrent]

you would want a support for that maybe

[glossy veldt]

doesn't need a support

it supports itself on the case's floor

i'd rather this than the chonkiest piece of compute i've ever seen

[tribal estuary]

4090s are trash, I could dispose of it for you if you want

I'll even pay shipping

[glossy veldt]

strong words

[random gyro]

sup peoples

[steel umbra]

cheddar is good

[glossy veldt]

i love cheddar

but if i'm served a bowl of salad with some goat cheese and avocado i'm eating it with my bare hands

[steel umbra]

polish cheddar is disgusting, fake

tastes like rubber

every time, no flavour

[glossy veldt]

yummy

[steel umbra]

but fr isn’t it like illegal to sell polish cheddar

[glossy veldt]

i dunno never had it

i'm argentine the only cheese we really eat is quartirolo

which is like a cousin of mozzarella except we use it everywhere

it's a creamy easy to melt and soft cheese with i think no curing

tastes mildy like cheese except it can sometimes come sour which we don't really like

[steel umbra]

yeah never eat polish cheddar, it ruins the image of the true and only bri’ish cheeze

[glossy veldt]

i really want to try a cheese based pasta

[steel umbra]

it’s not even close to cheddar

[slow sable]

Is that the rtx 6000 ada?

Got two of those in my workstation

[glossy veldt]

like a pasta only made with cheese and pasta and maybe some caramelized onions

[glossy veldt]

it looks so sexy

i will probably not be using a workstation card for i don't know a decade

[steel umbra]

im eating a cube of cheddar rn deliciousss

[glossy veldt]

but it scratches this niche that i have with blower style cards

[steel umbra]

it’s equal to italian cheese

[glossy veldt]

right now i'm running an a2000 and i love this silly card

[steel umbra]

in terms of everything

[glossy veldt]

i'm jealous of you kve

[steel umbra]

it’s a bit crusty inside too, has a delicious non rubbery texture

actually i bought it at tesco, but it’s made in the uk and tastes like other cheddars i’ve had

tesco unfortunately sells those disgusting 🤮 polish cheddars as well that are probably some rebranded goudas or eidam, i mean ripoff goudas

i’m provoking your hunger because i got even more hungary when you said the two words pasta and cheese in one sentence

[steel umbra]

and this

it’s a relatation

[steel umbra]

hope it serves well

[junior merlin]

This is water damaged, right?

[ivory mountain]

take a wild guess

[glossy veldt]

it's never lupus i can tell you

[valid garden]

Glow in my room

[steel umbra]

clean it before turning it on

it’s either some very thick layer of dust and some drops or the card got soaked and then thrown into dust

or salt water idk

[glossy veldt]

i'd remove the backplate and check the components underneath

[junior merlin]

It's ebay

[glossy veldt]

oh, no

[steel umbra]

if it’s untested then pass

[junior merlin]

Says it was working

[steel umbra]

was or is?

[junior merlin]

Is

[steel umbra]

ask about the droplets

in the best scenario he just wiped it off with like a wet rag and didn’t pay mind to it

[wheat torrent]

this shit looks molded 🔥

[steel umbra]

i think realistically if the seller says the truth

he like improperly cleaned it

and it turned out looking like that