tech-chat-1

[pale heath]

or nooo, no no i should bring my whole desk

as well as a chair

[winter lantern]

I was just telling you that its not trash 🥀

[cyan bay]

I just ordered the Xioami G27QI a 1440p Ips 180hz monitor, upgrading from 1050p 60hz hope it is worth it!!

[pale heath]

i need a laptop for campus 😭😭😭

[empty quartz]

Just get a macbook air

[pale heath]

i might make this one a server or i install something on it so i can make it for streaming services only like a tv

[pale heath]

ive heard it isnt the best

[empty quartz]

In what way

[pale heath]

like in support

and like windows are better buck to performance

or whatever they said

[empty quartz]

Nice joke

[pale heath]

woah actually?

[golden sage]

Dayum, look at the RAM

[cyan bay]

what kinda ram is that

[empty quartz]

Yeah, apple silicon macs are far better

[golden sage]

Looks like SODIMM, laptop ram

[pale heath]

see i got this laptop for 800 usd

i upgraded the ram from 8 to 24

[empty quartz]

Thats not great

[golden sage]

Nice ram upgrade

[pale heath]

yeah but this was 2020

and i didnt know anything about tech

i just saw its touch screen and flips

[empty quartz]

@pale heath completely ignoring performance, apple silicon is far better for battery life and heat

[pale heath]

can it render like anatomy and like human 3d models well?

[empty quartz]

Id have to check with my macbook

[frigid blade]

That’s expensive

[empty quartz]

If you’re doing stuff like that, stay with windows, apples pro models are the only ones id recommend for tasks like that, and the pro’s are kinda overpriced tbh

I have an m1 max mbp 14”

[frigid blade]

The m4 Mac air is like $750

[empty quartz]

But they’re not great for 3d modelling

The pro’s are far better in that aspect

[pale heath]

yeah because im doing med school and i want it to be able to run my stuff

[frigid blade]

I was comparing to the laptop they have now

[empty quartz]

Try to see if you can get a good deal on a used m2 pro or m3 pro macbook pro 14”

[pale heath]

thise released on march 2025

i got my laptop on febuary 2020

[frigid blade]

Ik, I saw you said yours is 2020

[pale heath]

i have a bad experience with used stuff i have to get new

[frigid blade]

You’re buying from the wrong places then

[south arrow]

[pale heath]

I WANT TO USE THE BATHROOM

[ivory mountain]

then go piss nobody is stopping u 😭

[empty quartz]

@ivory mountain wanna know the most infuriating thing i encounter at work?

[pale heath]

i am now

[ivory mountain]

people having bad opsec?

[pale heath]

i got it from like online markets

[empty quartz]

No, people who ask for discounts after i told them we dont do discounts on apple devices

[pale heath]

where you have to meet the person

[pale heath]

why do people ask for discounts if there isn’t on the label

[empty quartz]

I have no idea

[pale heath]

im a barista right, i make coffee and stuff

they ask for discounts on the coffee

like maam, the price is already cheap is cant go cheapER

[empty quartz]

One dude returned a set of airpods pro 3’s because he found them for $10 cad cheaper at walmart

[pale heath]

TEN?

[empty quartz]

Yes

[pale heath]

i hope it was worth the gas

[frigid blade]

I wouldn’t do this, but if I knew before hand that it was cheaper I’d get that one

[pale heath]

he probably spent more going around

[empty quartz]

It wasnt, because the drive is around $10 worth of gas

[pale heath]

LMAOOO

[pale heath]

i made the huge mistake of buying samsung pros with my iphone

[empty quartz]

Another person was asking for a discount on one of our previous gen devices even though we had already taken $860 cad off the price because it was old stock we needed to get rid of

[pale heath]

some people are just never grateful

[empty quartz]

Then again, people like this are also the type to finance something like a 17 pro max even though they already have a 16 pro max

[pale heath]

why would they do that

also my 16 pro max lags for some reason

[empty quartz]

4 words

“People. are. fucking. stupid”

@pale heath another dude traded in his 17 pro to get the iphone air

[pale heath]

what

are you serious

[frigid blade]

Hah, I just finally got off of my 12 mini and financed a 17 pro max

[empty quartz]

Yes

[frigid blade]

It’s such a nice switch

[pale heath]

oh that must feel so good

[frigid blade]

I also switched providers so the phone only costs me $2.XX/month

So after 3 years I own it, for like $70 + $440 for an iPhone 15 I traded in and bought

[pale heath]

I got my 16 pro max for $530, im very happy

and it was new

[frigid blade]

$510 for 17 pro max

And I’m paying less for the phone plan than I did before

[pale heath]

WOO WHAT A DEAL

[ivory mountain]

emulation is so peakkkk

[frigid blade]

I used the last of my brain cells for it

I also get an iPad A16 and Apple Watch SE 3rd Gen for $1/month each

It’s a good deal overall, pair the home Internet and a single phone line that’s 20% off of the phone line + 10% off of the phone line for being a student

[pale heath]

too much work, i use chatgpt for this stuff

[frigid blade]

So I’m paying $40/month for everything overall, for 3 years

[empty quartz]

@frigid blade i just own my 16 pro max

[frigid blade]

I bought my 12 mini cash but if it’s a better deal I will always finance

[pale heath]

surprisingly i dont buy any like phone or number plans and i hava data?? how

[frigid blade]

They get you when you stay on their plan

[frigid blade]

WiFi?

[pale heath]

no like i have a number AND unlimited data

like phone data

[frigid blade]

Your parents? Idk

[pale heath]

no i live alone since 16

but hey i am not complaining

[neon ocean]

Bought a new Wi-Fi card, the latest and greatest with bluetooth (something).4 and Wi-Fi 7. Yet somehow it's worse than my TUF GAMING B650-E WIFI

.. Say, does it matter which cable goes into which port when they're unmarked?

[random gyro]

peace out everyone

[formal sonnet]

If you're talking about the WiFi Antennas, usually no. What is the exact make/model of WiFi card you got? You may also link directly to the website you purchased it from. (If linking, remove everything after the first ? in the link.)

[neon ocean]

https://www.fenvi.com/drive.html?keyword=WiFi7+QCNCM865

https://www.amazon.com/QCNCM865-Tri-Band-5800Mbps-Motherboard-Compatibility/dp/B0DSB8NCNW

And I've tried all of the lovely things Amazon suggested, which weren't bad.

[rocky lagoon]

Define "worse than"

It disconnects more frequently?

Slower speeds than expected?

[neon ocean]

I also tried turning off the other wi-fi card and moving the antenna.

For worse, a touch slower + up to 2x the ping

[formal sonnet]

Not looking good, chief. https://www.reddit.com/r/framework/comments/1ekbqce/any_downside_to_the_qcncm865/

[neon ocean]

Well that's just fine and dandy.

Went with what I thought was a new, up to date chip that plays well with AMD

[rocky lagoon]

That's a really common wifi chip used in plenty of motherboards, including mine now that I see that model.

[neon ocean]

.. This is my third attempt on a card now. Wth does someone buy if they have AMD and a low-profile bracket?

[formal sonnet]

Any WiFi card using an Intel AX210 (or equivalent) chipset has worked well in my experience.

[neon ocean]

And yet I heard everywhere that Intel chips don't play too well with AMD

[formal sonnet]

🤷

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-anime-frieren-beyond-the-journeys-end-beyond-the-journeys-end-sousou-no-frieren-gif-16308807289954178880

[solar moat]

Elf

[mint umbra]

I think cloud gaming will become more popular in future

[rocky lagoon]

Assuming it doesn't die due to low profitability.
As long as it's sustainable, it's extremely convenient.

[fossil trellis]

https://l.instagram.com/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buildcores.com%2Fbuilds%2FJLGt1qVHB%3Fshare%3Dtrue&e=AT0Yqj-Z4n8O0IZ_6o9u8q5kkT8sec4rVUTw2Iw0N5uwU2nP5WIsQ70iTAekm2kQafJN2cahHU8fMQPzuU3xlmfmaYRSXMk4Y5VEMGQ98sk7veH_ZIkJwOU03KDz

Rate the build

[sour storm]

dear tech chat: my heatspreader has fallen off on one side of the ram stick. what do i do

[sour storm]

morning to you too

[barren breach]

You can save yourself $50ish by going with a thermalright 360mm aio, and i know ram is insane rn but if its possible to find cl30 6000 instead of cl36 for the same ish price id try that

[left trellis]

Cas latency isnt really important if youre not manually tuning ur ram

[barren breach]

Other than that, in my not very experienced pc building brain, id say its solid

[barren breach]

See thats something I wouldnt know lol

[rocky lagoon]

Paying more for higher speed RAM is usually one of the worst ways to spend money to gain performance.
At least RGB makes you go 300% faster.

^Me who runs DDR5 at 3600MT/s

[tidal geyser]

Snow is so beautiful

But I am so cold

[solar moat]

ram is one of easyest places to gain large amounts of performance but yes many do overspend on kind of slow ram

[tidal geyser]

16hrs and we will get panther lake

Sick the b770 should also join it

[solar moat]

lets hope its not a letdown

[tidal geyser]

140v is already beating 890m

[tidal geyser]

Unless intel just full on lied we have already seen it play pretty high quality games with decent fps

[solar moat]

is it using a tile based desine?

[tidal geyser]

Tile

Does not say it here tho but specs look decent

[solar moat]

the way LP ecoers work by running on IO tile right?

[tidal geyser]

No wait this is the sad version

Here is the fun one

[rocky lagoon]

Interesting, are you referring to RAM speed or quantity?

[solar moat]

performance not GB

[rocky lagoon]

Perhaps depending on the CPU, there are cases where extremely fast, expensive ram has marginally more gain than average quality ram.

[solar moat]

fast ram is offen cheap

[rocky lagoon]

Perhaps we have a difference in definition and that's causing confusion.

For me the average ram people buy, even below the "sweet spot" for platforms are cheap enough. Fast RAM are those that go well beyond the sweet spot

So 6000MT/s CL30 is decent RAM for AM5

[solar moat]

no its not

[rocky lagoon]

8000MT/s is very fast

[solar moat]

on am5 its slower in many cases

[rocky lagoon]

But is pretty expensive, and gives relatively low gains.

[rocky lagoon]

Assuming it runs on 8000MT/s

[solar moat]

are you meaning just load xmp and that it?

[rocky lagoon]

If you want to add in the discussion of stability on AM5, that's another discussion that's irrelevant of if the RAM is fast or not.

[eternal cloak]

Hasn't that issue been fixed literally a year ago

You can easily run 8000 MT/s on AM5 now lol

[solar moat]

this was meta for getting good cheap ram before ram apoculuse it was able to be gotten for like $80

[rocky lagoon]

Yes, I'm referring to RAM kits that have profiles that run significantly faster than JEDEC.
"Fast" is a subjective term. Let's say 6400MT/s CL32 or higher speeds

[solar moat]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qk9wrH/teamgroup-t-create-classic-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl46-memory-ctccd532g5600hc46dc01

[rocky lagoon]

Just so we have a clear definition.

[eternal cloak]

Should you? Of course not
But it can do it

[solar moat]

are you meaning just load xmp or running good ram settings?

[rocky lagoon]

Decent quality motherboards should be able to these days.
Some can't, wouldn't recommend those unless you're going for low price.

[plush hedge]

Excited to see the Panther lake laptops that are going to come out.

[rocky lagoon]

Yes once again. That was an answer to your earlier question.

[solar moat]

wait am i blind?

[solar moat]

ok yes those are ripoff

xmp is shit vs good ram settings

[eternal cloak]

You're acting like that matters for 99% of pc users

[rocky lagoon]

Different processors might benefit more from faster RAM speeds, but I maintain that once you hit that sweet spot, which in the past ain't that expensive, faster RAM really don't give you much.
With X3D chips specifically, the benefits for gaming at least is minimal. With other workloads, it can take a hit, but not much.

Was running DDR5-3600MT/s CL40 for a while, really only took a 10% hit in the worst case for things like Cinebench, Photoshop, etc.

[solar moat]

and if you get kit with h16a its offen not hard to get 7200+ and good timings

[rocky lagoon]

Besides, even fine tuned timings (which take a lot of work to get truly stable) don't really give you much performance.

[solar moat]

10% in cinebench WTF that is one workload that nomral dose not give a fuck about ram perfmince

[rocky lagoon]

Yep.

[solar moat]

even if you just used BZ easy timings that your kit from nomral to chart topper easy amusing all others are just xmp

[eternal cloak]

When I swapped HTPCs, it was borderline hilarious how anticlimactic it was swapping from 1600 MT/s to 5600 MT/s when I got a Steam Deck to replace it lmao

[rocky lagoon]

Meanwhile for many gaming type stuff, slower RAM speeds really don't matter too much for X3D per these checks:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/oloy-blade-performance-rgb-ddr5-6000-32-gb-cl30/15.html

[rocky lagoon]

I did use Buildzoid's timings. Both my point and Kazumi's still stand.

[rocky lagoon]

Not surprised honestly.

[eternal cloak]

Unironically would've kept using that older HTPC if graphic drivers wouldn't have started making issues (GPU was from 2011 lol)

[rocky lagoon]

Eventually just reverted back to motherboard's default JEDEC, was more stable as Buildzoid's were still giving memory errors after stress testing.

Tried various more lenient timings but eventually decided, nah, not worth the time.

[solar moat]

and i saying ram matter loads for many workloads 30% gains in rust on 7500F just from messing with ram settings is crazy to some

[rocky lagoon]

Not much performance loss even when going extremely slow, and much more stable + lower power draw, so it's a win for me.

[bold olive]

is it overclocking past expo?

[fallow yacht]

shi new intel stuff

[solar moat]

xmp was 5600 somthing to tunned timings at ddr5 6000

[fallow yacht]

is that the main stuff or it's just a lunar lake successor @tidal geyser

[solar moat]

only spent like 30 min setting all up then they pinged me next day saying it passed the tests they ran overnight

it shocks me how bad some ddr5 timings are at xmp

[rocky lagoon]

Welp, good thing it's little to no gain for me and for the majority of people.

I still maintain my point, spending money on high speed RAM is one of the worst ways to spend money for performance.

Instead of spending more money on RAM, just get decent RAM and spend the money on a better CPU/GPU.

If RAM timing is important for one's specific workload and one is strapped for money, my point remains. Spend the money on better processors and just manually tighten the RAM timings.

Don't spend way more on extremely fast RAM.

[severe sundial]

best 27 inch 1440p gaming monitor

If dont mind?

[solar moat]

you cant spend money on good ram timings there no one who has ram with good timings

[plush hedge]

It's a lunar lake successor, Nova lake is what's going to be their desktop stuff that is going to come a bit later this year.

[bold olive]

expo was 6000, games crashed at 6400

[rocky lagoon]

See, you agree with me this whole time.

[bold olive]

it didn't help for me

[solar moat]

did you tighten timings?

[rocky lagoon]

That's what I'm saying, stop spending money on expensive RAM

[tidal geyser]

panther lake uses xe3 aka C class cards cores and yea i do believe it is the successor

[bold olive]

cl36 to cl34, windows gets mad

[solar moat]

ok so you did not got it

[tidal geyser]

9600MT ram is fun

[rocky lagoon]

Lol

IT'S OVER 9000!!!

[solar moat]

i seen over ddr5 9000 stable on am5 form a few users

[bold olive]

i think it's the bad amd imc controller

[plush hedge]

What? Panther lake memory controller?

[rocky lagoon]

Run 9800MT/s RAM with 9800X3D

[solar moat]

yes its commen for 6400 not to work in 1:1

but even just the timings alone at ddr5 6000 with out changing clocks can offen gain more then 10%

[bold olive]

as an authorized idiot, i do not know what's 1:1

[rich blaze]

i just upgraded to windows 11 and i used to use the volume mixer program a lot, i don't like the windows 11 changes
does anyone suggest a good volume mixer? i just like to modify my applications sounds to lower so i can hear on discord

[tidal geyser]

monolithic vs tile/i forgot the name

chiplet

[solar moat]

also even if IMC dud offen fclk cranking on its own can help

[solar moat]

uclk runs at same clock as ram

vs at 50% of speed of ram

[neon ocean]

Could someone translate this motherboard talk for me?

[solar moat]

top slot is connected to cpu lower slot to chipset

[neon ocean]

Thx! Just wanted to confirm

[sour storm]

I have a silly question: is the noctua nh-l9x65 chromax.black effective for a ryzen 7500f

[solar moat]

and the slot size of bottem slot is x16 but its only wired for x1

[bold olive]

way too effective

[solar moat]

its a 88W cpu it dose not take to much

[bold olive]

id not buy the cooler tbh

an assassin is good enough

[solar moat]

its SFF pc?

[neon ocean]

We have been bread-ed

[solar moat]

https://tenor.com/bqrzo.gif

[stray girder]

🍞 🍞 🍞

[sour storm]

Nah just looking if i have viable option for something that doesnt oook so bulky in the pc

[solar moat]

there offen other way cheaper cpu cooler that just fine

[solar moat]

just use the box cooler

[sour storm]

Didnt come with one, only tray models were available

[bold olive]

I will respectfully decline the bread.

[solar moat]

1 loaf a day where i am

[bold olive]

thermalright assassin 120

[stray girder]

no one can decline the bread

🍞 🍞 🍞

[bold olive]

I will decline your statement of 'no one can decline the bread'

[steel umbra]

bread bad

junk food

[bold olive]

breading bad

[fallow yacht]

AW

[steel umbra]

bread taste like dried shoes

[fallow yacht]

atleast it's 18a now

[stray girder]

i will ignore your declination of my statment

[sour storm]

Still looks so bulky on the model, i could do something real sgupid and put in a water cooler

[fallow yacht]

junk for the U.S

[bold olive]

a tiny cooler is BULKY???

have you even seen the peerless

[plush hedge]

I really hope that Intel can prove that their foundry is capable of delivering by showing how good their 18A processors are. Otherwise they are kind of shit outta luck

[bold olive]

I will decline your ignoration of my declination of your statement.

[sour storm]

Bro i am looking at it on buildcores and it just looks so off

[bold olive]

wdym so off

you can still see your vrm and ram sticks with it

[plush hedge]

And well, the world could really use more fab capacity of advanced silicon.

[stray girder]

nuh uh

[bold olive]

yuh uh

[stray girder]

🍞 🍞 🍞

[fallow yacht]

they've probably made sure it was good given the fact tsmc is at risk by west taiwan rn

[steel umbra]

sanwisch

sandwhicch

[sour storm]

Idk i kinda want it to have that middle area more flush? Idk how to explain

[steel umbra]

what’s up with the bread spam

[plush hedge]

That risk has more or less always existed tbh tho

[bold olive]

thermalright axp90-x53

[fallow yacht]

well i think they were clearing off pre-gelsinger shi before

[plush hedge]

Doesn't help that 90% of the worlds advanced silicon is made at that Taiwan fab

[bold olive]

the world can't afford tsmc to be in risk

[tidal geyser]

@stray girder stop with the bread spam

[plush hedge]

It's always been at risk.

Unfortunately

[bold olive]

oh

[sour storm]

Ooooh- yeah...gonna see if i can find some examole pics or get buildcores to add it to their app

[bold olive]

might as well use the box cooler at this point

but you dont

[steel umbra]

the us made a good example recently, maybe the 🇨🇳 will follow

[tidal geyser]

xd

[plush hedge]

Lmao

[rocky lagoon]

Meanwhile a good chunk of the world preparing to afford to personally put TSMC in risk for their own benefit xD

[bold olive]

is it them fireworks with someplace else?

[tidal geyser]

still insane to just go in the middle of the night blow up stuff kidnap a person who has not gotten a trial.

[sour storm]

It just sticks out so much imo.

[bold olive]

well that's a 120 mil cooler for you

[rocky lagoon]

Just back to how it's always been for 99.99999999999% of humanity's history.
Current state is a miracle to be grateful for, rather than something to be taken for granted.

[steel umbra]

🇺🇸 ▶️ 🇻🇪
🇨🇳 ▶️ 🇹🇼

[tidal geyser]

what

[stray girder]

what website is that?

[sour storm]

Buildcores

[stray girder]

tyy

[bold olive]

yep

[tidal geyser]

i just do it in my head

[sour storm]

I wish i could

I could put in a 240mm watercooler...

[tidal geyser]

no

[sour storm]

Y not?

[tidal geyser]

you gain no performance for it and in return you get a thing where if it dies it can either make you computer less for weeks or even kill your computer

[sour storm]

Ok the computer dying i get but like. I really do not care about gaining performance

[tidal geyser]

i dono save up for a nicer monitor

[plush hedge]

The 4th gen WOLEDs coming out are really damn good

We'll be seeing a lot of new OLED panels this year

[tidal geyser]

QD-OLEDs too

[abstract wigeon]

dude

[plush hedge]

If only they didn't have the purple glare

[sour storm]

Bro your gpu is limp

[abstract wigeon]

no the photo is js angled

[tidal geyser]

i dono i just do not have my lights point at it

[sour storm]

Ah ok

[tidal geyser]

always fun tho to look at videos when a monitor is off

[rocky lagoon]

Personally looking forward to 5k and 6k IPS monitors

[plush hedge]

I use natural light to light my room and at some times of the day it can get pretty bad.

[rocky lagoon]

Finally sharp text on IPS while the world chases OLED, maybe it'll help drive down costs on IPS even more than they already have.

[plush hedge]

Also that 1080Hz fast IPS lmao

[tidal geyser]

throughout the summer i had my blinds open and had light pouring onto my monitor and yeeaaa i could see it at times

[sour storm]

I will look into it.. also scarily close to the build im going for, diffrent gpu but i just used the closest to what i got

[tardy spruce]

chat i wanna upgrade this dell optiplex yeah was planning to buy a 1660 super for 350 sar and spend 150 sar on a psu but its dell and their power supplies are weird and have different connectors any idea how to get past that

[rocky lagoon]

1080P at 1080HZ, perfectly balanced, like all things should be.

[plush hedge]

Unfortunately it's 720p 1080Hz

[rocky lagoon]

Now run it on AMD's 10800 XTX or something

[rocky lagoon]

Nah give it time they'll get there.

[rocky lagoon]

1080p 1080hz powered by 10800 XTX GPU and On 10800X3D CPU

[tardy spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[tidal geyser]

DO NOT buy a optiplex its not worth it

[tardy spruce]

i already own an optiplex

[tidal geyser]

sell it and buy a real pc

[tardy spruce]

nobody in my country is buying ts

[rocky lagoon]

Me buying used Optiplexes for near free and upgrading them to sleeper builds

[rocky lagoon]

I'm buying it to use as a real PC. I'll make it better than any PC you have. >:D

[tidal geyser]

so a shitty hotbox case

[sour storm]

Im looking into a new monitor, 1080p decent color balance and like preferably 120hz or higher, seeing some on sale rn and thinking about it

[plush hedge]

Lolz, we all know that the 10800 XTX is not happening and the 10800 X3D will probably be called like Ryzen AI 9 Max+ 480 X3D or something

[tidal geyser]

i got a 1080p fast ips with 200hz for 100$

[tardy spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/packgod-diss-packing-mamamax-discord-comeback-gif-15620082578334171558

[rocky lagoon]

Ryzen AI 9 Premium Pro Max++ 396 X4D

Dahab edition

[sour storm]

Saw a samsung odyssey 27' 180hz va monitor for 100€

On sale and i am seriously thinking about it

[hexed sage]

Hi guy

[gaunt spade]

tryna talk with chinese seller be like
uh huh

[gaunt spade]

1080?

[sour storm]

1080p yea

[rocky lagoon]

Huh-uh

[hexed sage]

It's called slang liberal

[gaunt spade]

on 27inch is bad

[gaunt spade]

lets hope he meant yes

ummm

[rocky lagoon]

Have you ever viewed 1080p on a 27 inch monitor in person?
Some are ok with it but most really don't like it. :/

[hexed sage]

🤔

Wrong emoji 😭

[gaunt spade]

🙂‍↕️

[rocky lagoon]

😳

[gaunt spade]

1080 on 27 is garbo

[hexed sage]

Leave me alone guy

[sour storm]

I mean i have been using a 23' tv as my main screen since i got my first pc some years back

[gaunt spade]

i like 4k on 17

[gaunt spade]

23 isnt a tv

[hexed sage]

My monitor is broken

And I still use it

I'm the final boss

[gaunt spade]

of what

[sour storm]

It's a small tv, personally the 27' monitors i saw when i went to the pc store didn't look too bad

[hexed sage]

Monitor users

I feel like this is the only server I'm not gonna get randomly banned from

😭

[tidal geyser]

100" is a real tv

[hexed sage]

I tend to get banned because mods don't like 💔

[tidal geyser]

what reason do you get given

[hexed sage]

I'm annoying

[gaunt spade]

i get banned too

[hexed sage]

Which I understand

[rocky lagoon]

I really enjoyed 4k on 15 inch.
It was so sharp on my old surface book

[sour storm]

Looking for this sorta look but i assume these small coolers probably not gonna be too great

[gaunt spade]

real

[rocky lagoon]

Too bad it was glossy, gave it to a friend.

[gaunt spade]

cooler looks ahh

case looks giant too

[hexed sage]

😭

[rocky lagoon]

When covid hit, he had no laptop for school so that laptop kinda got passed around to different friends in need, eventually just gave it away.

[gaunt spade]

surfaces are so ahh tho

[hexed sage]

My discord broke and now dms didn't work

Discord feels like Bethesda gme

[sour storm]

Its not that big from what i read : 447×215×469mm

[spark lichen]

what kind of cooler am i looking for with a 9800x3d. was looking at AIOs but didnt know what one to go for. was thinking a thermalright AIO and thermalright case fans since they are super cheap, but i really like the LCD screen on the lian li galahad. any input is appreciated !

[rocky lagoon]

Once upon a time, when 23' was considered a giant TV...

[gaunt spade]

giantt

[gaunt spade]

100 years ago

[tidal geyser]

cold breeze

[rocky lagoon]

Discord is just Chrome taking up local storage for no reason after all.

[tidal geyser]

the 9800X3D needs almost nothing to be cooled

[hexed sage]

True

[rocky lagoon]

That's the 1920s, not that long ago.
And not that long before the Great Depression.

[gaunt spade]

should i get a big high hz tv
oled 27 2k 240hz monitor
ultrawide 240
wich one

[spark lichen]

lmao

[gaunt spade]

depression was never great

[rocky lagoon]

Except for the amazing innovation it brought during that decade.

[sour storm]

Ehh? I was looking foe a case and this seemed to actually be like slightly smaller than the others, i'll find out i guess when the case arrives

[rocky lagoon]

Since people were so desperate

[sour storm]

I love how the epoch looks ngl

[spark lichen]

even so, just for aesthetics, is the lianli still good? or is thermalright the way to go, just had someone else glazing thermalright to me in a diff server

[hexed sage]

Hello guy

[gaunt spade]

i like tiny cases

[steel umbra]

Legit cat 6a cabling heavy

[tidal geyser]

thermalright is way cheaper for no performance difference

[hexed sage]

It's not about the size of the case it's about the inside that counts

[tidal geyser]

well it does have extra metal on it

[gaunt spade]

there are cheaper brands then thermalright

[tidal geyser]

who?

any way to get cheaper is just tape a phone to used AIO or something

[sour storm]

Who the fuck isbteleporting bread

[spark lichen]

yeah its not even close, but i kinda fw the looks of the lian li a bit more. would it be a complete pain in the ass to go with the thermal right case fans but use the lianli AIO ?

[stray girder]

not me

[plush hedge]

Jiushark

[sour storm]

Overall epoch cost like a 100 eur total so it fit in the budget

[spark lichen]

look on temu

[tidal geyser]

im not a fan of AIOs to begin with anyways.

[plush hedge]

Smh, don't look it up there, look it up on aliexpress

[rocky lagoon]

me

[spark lichen]

ive heard that opinion alot, is it just the maintenance of it compared to a tower?

[tidal geyser]

well that would take like 2 weeks or more

[plush hedge]

I looked them up on Amazon, you can find their cooler there too

[tidal geyser]

a water cooler has water in it, amazing right yea not for the guy where it leaked over his pc, lucky enough not to happen to me but i have 2 dead AIOs around my house.

[tidal geyser]

amazon aint everywhere but yea maybe but how much cheaper are they

as the thermalright AIO with a screen is 54$

[spark lichen]

oh dang fr? ive had my lian li AIO for like 4 years and havent had any issues, but i suppose there is always that risk

[spark lichen]

does that one allow you to change the screen? or is it just RGB and not an actual lcd

[tidal geyser]

"or upload custom GIFs/images to its 320x240 LCD screen"

[steel umbra]

Thic

[spark lichen]

do you have a link? i couldnt see one like that when i looked

[steel umbra]

Why is this particular cat 6a roll thicker than those cat 8 cables

hehe (i know the answer unfortunately)

[sour storm]

Maybe? Its a tiny bit less attention grabbing

[hexed sage]

What's that website?

[sour storm]

Buildcores once again.

[hexed sage]

That's really cool

[hexed sage]

Thank you

You like rt games?

W

[sour storm]

Yeah

[tidal geyser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BGTxF-7oOs

[tidal geyser]

much protection

[sour storm]

Forbidden liquorice

[steel umbra]

It was only 47 buccos

[tidal geyser]

are you gonna do 25 gig or like a 100m+ run?

[peak swan]

i knew it was a scam from a mile away

[steel umbra]

Don't know yet

will find out once i'll get to le new apartment

[tidal geyser]

good luck pulling cable

[steel umbra]

This thang doesnt bend ;-;

[cold skiff]

TRCC breaks Minecraft bedrock in latest W11 update for me

Really bizarre and I don’t know why

[tidal geyser]

funky

[cold skiff]

Even uninstalling both I then had to do W11 reinstall

So now I just stare at the Thermalright logo

[tidal geyser]

wait it has no memory

[glossy patio]

NVIDA's really out here remanufacturing a GPU that's already 2 generations old to set up the proper entry-point of having double digit VRAM for a 1080p GPU... we're beyond cooked 🤡 https://x.com/wccftech/status/2008060088507085109?s=20

Wccftech (@wccftech)

NVIDIA to bring back the GeForce RTX 3060 in Q1 2026 to tackle current-gen GPU & memory shortages. https://t.co/QbCUoMg0Pu

X · Jan 5, 2026, 6:16 AM

[cold skiff]

It doesn’t initialise without trcc

[steel umbra]

Do i even have to measure the awg with my calipers to determine whenever it's 23

[cold skiff]

So I’d guess no memory

[steel umbra]

Looks industrial enough

[cold skiff]

I got the 240 frozen warframe

The one with the cool looking pump block

[tidal geyser]

50$ AIO with a screen is fun tho

[cold skiff]

Oh for sure

Fits the aesthetic better and it’s like £2 more expensive so why not

[tidal geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1336647847810043914.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=LC_pog_fish

[cold skiff]

Beats the deepcool ak620 screen which is now the backup cooler when the aio dies. Just annoys me I dropped it cleaning and bent the pipes

Nothing wrong with it except a 3mm gap on the screen where I bent it back to place. Functions the same

[steel umbra]

I expected to get like stranded cat 6a or the lenght be incorrect but nop

[cold skiff]

Just easier for me to quick clean a rad tbh

[steel umbra]

Legit cat 6a 100m for 40 excluding shipping

[tidal geyser]

stranded

[steel umbra]

Yes strandey bad

[tidal geyser]

is it even a thing

cant exactly do anything with it tbh

[steel umbra]

Cat 6a should be 1/awg23 ideally

some manufacturers do 7/awg27

and that bad

[tidal geyser]

anyhow could have been aluminum core stuff

[steel umbra]

The cable is so heavy the plastic wrap is unboxing itself

tearing

[smoky widget]

When should I use DDU Uninstaller? Before or after I swap GPUs? Also, when should I download the new drivers? Before or after DDU Uninstaller?

[steel umbra]

Not as common as it used to be i think

stranded is an issue nowadays

Also i find it funny marketing teams list it as a pro

you just ruin the cable by doing so

you know if it was like cable meant to transfer powah only but stranded for data transfer?

Might as well save on copper and make it one strand

[spark lichen]

oh cool. ty

[steel umbra]

It won't really matter for most users but it makes me bit angery

like if it says cat 6a it shall do 10gbps above 80m and not do worse than high quality cat 5e

like 4.5gbps

[ancient ridge]

is this good for £695 ($933)

[tidal geyser]

the times we are in makes me sad

[hexed tapir]

why waste money on cable extensions?

[left trellis]

Guys, when installing games on ram i found they often performed worse that on ssd. Why is this? A lack of support? I was using RamDisk

[tidal geyser]

its not a budget pc cmon

700 euro is tons

[ancient ridge]

it's like £10 and I want decent aesthetics

[left trellis]

Are there prices in the neighboring column

[tidal geyser]

get a nice side monitor

[hexed tapir]

idk am4 in 2026 is budget in my eyes

[tidal geyser]

have you tried to use pcpartpicker?

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/that-was-sarcasm-anti-mixtape-i-was-being-sarcastic-i-wasnt-serious-gif-24122833

[ancient ridge]

yes I have but ram is so fucking expensive here atm

[tidal geyser]

and?

[hexed tapir]

go lga 1700 over am4

[tidal geyser]

just manually add the price

[ancient ridge]

it wouldn't align with my budget

[tidal geyser]

what

[left trellis]

Goated

How much is 3080 for you

[hexed sage]

Hello what did I miss

[left trellis]

Also what the fuck is your pfp

😭

[hexed sage]

WHAT IS THAT PFP

😭

[tidal geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1336647847810043914.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=LC_pog_fish

[hexed sage]

We're on the same brain length

Same wavelength

That's what I meant

[left trellis]

Fluttershy never had allat

[ancient ridge]

more around the 330 pricepoint

[cold skiff]

Installed his games on his RAM

[ancient ridge]

it's goated 🔥

[cold skiff]

HUB recently showed that AM4 has aged better for newer and older games thanks to 24H2 improvements

[hexed sage]

Isn't that smart?

[hexed tapir]

even over a 12600k?

[ancient ridge]

it would have a domino effect on my build and it's kinda dead tbh

[tidal geyser]

what changing the motherboard and cpu?

[tidal geyser]

am4 is even deader

[ancient ridge]

Bartlett is gonna be the last generation to support it

[tidal geyser]

is it even confirmed

[cold skiff]

Nah. This is what they used.

[tidal geyser]

sad

why is the 7500f blue

[cold skiff]

Orange is the cpus being focused on with the re-tested data

[tidal geyser]

ah

[cold skiff]

Fuck getting a 225f* though

Cost of ddr5 to then use tha for gaming

[left trellis]

I think ill use a different method of installation next

[tidal geyser]

should also really be using super fast ddr5 too

[left trellis]

I used ramdisk but i really do believe i can have smth that works well

I also will be getting 96gb 3600 soon so i can try beefier games

Then i can check load times in addition to frame times

[spark lichen]

can i get some suggestions for AIOs with an LCD screen? just wanna compare options and reviews

[left trellis]

Stream vision

Warframe

Warframe ultra

Mijolnir vision

[spark lichen]

that stream vision looks dope, do you have any personal input on what thermalright AIO (with LCD) is generally the best?

i cant decide if this one is ugly

idk if i fw it

[bold olive]

💸

[left trellis]

I meant core vision not stream vision mb lol

Stream vision is my fav tho, but its expensive

[spark lichen]

stream vision is one of the cheaper ones in the UK apparently

[left trellis]

Sick

[spark lichen]

stream vision is a 640x480 LCD
grand vision is a 480x480 LCD
hyper vision is a 480x480 LCD
yet stream vision is the cheapest... idk why

maybe bc the fans it comes with arent rgb?

[spark lichen]

do you know if you are able to change the fans that come with the radiator?

[left trellis]

Yes

You can put wtv fans

[spark lichen]

hmmm. idk if i wanna go with RGB on this build or just a plain white

[tidal geyser]

sell it and buy a car

[spark lichen]

where is the actual pump located, bc when i built my last pc i mounted my AIO inefficiently

is it in the cpu block?

[left trellis]

Yes

[spark lichen]

so to mount it correctly i just need the part where the tubes connect to the radiator to be above the pump?

[tidal geyser]

pump in block

[gusty wagon]

Warframe??

[cold skiff]

TR Frozen Warframe

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-the-devil's-triad-warframe-1999-1999-halloween-gif-2563549508120681407

[cold skiff]

wtf is this. Looks like a nightmare for ram and vrm heatsinks

[spark lichen]

which one is better and if its the aorus one is it worth that extra bit of cash

[gusty wagon]

Uriel's my 2nd favourite frame so far

[tidal geyser]

probs more spensive more better but you will not notice it

[spark lichen]

its just down to looks at that point ?

[tidal geyser]

yus

wait one also has bluetooth and wifi the other does not

[spark lichen]

i use ethernet and have a bluetooth USB

i think itd be okay

[bold olive]

go eagle

differences are the amount of usb ports and their speed

[tidal geyser]

motherboard should have way better bluetooth in terms of range and generation and probs other stuff too

its just like 30£ more and you never need to think about it

[bold olive]

honestly id not go with white

[sinful cobalt]

just get the aorus since its just a small margin in price anyway

[spark lichen]

someone in another server told me that the eagle's
" vrms are better
pcie lane allocation seems better as well
more priority to the m.2's instead of the lower pcie slots no one uses anyway"

does that make remotely any difference

for what its worth i do also prefer the less silver on the eagle

i think the aorus is a bit metallic

[tidal geyser]

yes the VRMs are better but you would never notice it, the extra m.2 is just nice.

[spark lichen]

hmmm

idk if i would even use bluetooth much...

but like you said it is a have it and forget about it kind of thing

[tidal geyser]

should also be bluetooth 5.4

[spark lichen]

i have a 5.4 adapter.. are there any sources i can look at for BT range? or is it like a case by case thing

idk if id need to be more than like 2m away from the PC at any time

[tidal geyser]

i do not think anybody has done any bluetooth range test sadly

https://tenor.com/view/spy-tf2-money-gif-gif-2333114253894680148

[fast aurora]

Well, the Aorus has a better VRM phase distribution... That can be a big factor. I just pulled the triger and went all out on an Aorus X870 Stealth Ice. I went with Gigabyte for the past 2 decades now and with Aorus ever since they started that line and never even once was dissapointed.

[tidal geyser]

"That can be a big factor" but what difference does it make

[fast aurora]

If you want to push your CPU to the max actually a lot.

[tidal geyser]

uh

[somber zealot]

what does this show

[tidal geyser]

a motherboard that looks like this does not even throttle with a 9950x

[tidal geyser]

top one is crap but the one i just sent aint

[somber zealot]

oh

[tidal geyser]

looks is not everything but like when a 9950X does not give a crap about a board that looks like this i have a strong feeling a board with even more stuff is not gonna be worse

[fast aurora]

Until you start overclocking... 😅 If you run everything stock it dose not matter to much what board you buy as long as it's a reputable brand with good warranty policy...

[tidal geyser]

he is going to get a 9800X3D

can you even do much more above 200w on a 9800X3D with the stock IHS

[fast aurora]

If you get a good one, easy.

[tidal geyser]

how much

[high elm]

hes making a point where all 9800x3d’s ihs are capable of dispersing 200w of heat

regardless of what clocks at what voltage the cpu is able to achieve

like my previous 13900K was able to do 55/44/50 but my current one does 54/43/49

but crucially both of them have a VOUT of 350

[spark lichen]

what difference does the 2.0/3.2 (gen 1 and 2) make on a usb port?

[high elm]

im high vout is voltage but still power is the same regardless of clocks

[tidal geyser]

if you do not have a device that can support it then it does nothing

[spark lichen]

so its just faster data transfer? and basically any PC peripheral id use can go in any USB slot ?

[tidal geyser]

yus

[spark lichen]

oh okay

think i might just get the aorus for more USB slots

its always a bitch to run out of usb slots

[tidal geyser]

yeh

[spark lichen]

can someone explain why the video i watched had someone plug their RGB fans into a SATA cable instead of into their motherboard header?

[tidal geyser]

sata header provides way more power, but i would imagine it went trough a controller

[spark lichen]

if im goinng to be using a bunch of these (up to 3 daisychained to 1 cable) will this be able to go straight into the motherboard or will they likely come with a controller?

im getting a thermalright AIO aswell and removing the stock fans for these

[tidal geyser]

fans with some basic lights use almost no power

[spark lichen]

and im gonna guess that £200 aorus board will have more headers than i could ever need

for rgb fan control that is

[tidal geyser]

yup

[shrewd hinge]

They’ll work daisy chained

Gigabyte is usually pretty good with how much current each header can sustain

[sour storm]

gonna have to get a monitor arm for the new pc setup or something to fit the new pc

[shrewd hinge]

And those three are less than 0.6a

[spark lichen]

whats the difference here

also what are some good 3rd party cable brands?

[tidal geyser]

argb is what most modern stuff uses

[tidal geyser]

cablemod

do not use extensions use cables straight from the psu if possible

[mental zephyr]

Guys 21939 cinebench r23 no overclock 9800x3d

Is ok ?

[spark lichen]

wdym? do cablemod ones attach to the PSU stock cables?

oh you mean the opposite, use cables that go straight from PSU to the component

[tidal geyser]

yes

[spark lichen]

got it

[tidal geyser]

is it?

[spark lichen]

cablemod are pricy, are they considered the best

[mental zephyr]

idk prolly not

[tidal geyser]

its fine

[mental zephyr]

Fr ? Thx

[tidal geyser]

no clue never even considering getting anything but the stock cables

[spark lichen]

idk what B grade means here

[tidal geyser]

used

or has scratches and such

[spark lichen]

the white ones are all out of stock or B grade

[tidal geyser]

f

[tidal geyser]

why not just buy a white psu?

[spark lichen]

i just think the fabric sleeves look cleaner

[tidal geyser]

buy a white psu with a fabric sleeve

[mellow flame]

Is that normal for a monitor to do?

[spark lichen]

the hyte y70 can use this PSU right?

idk if it had different mounting since it goes at the back and not underneath

[somber zealot]

probably

it’s the same mounting just a different place

I believe

[mental zephyr]

The best are be quiet psu s

[steel umbra]

which one

[mental zephyr]

Idk all of them are goated

[tidal geyser]

seasonic are the ones who make some of the best

[gilded harness]

this isnt dawid does tech stuff

[tidal geyser]

hmmmmmmmmmm

[grizzled frost]

bequiet is great when i need a psu that can supply 100w for a dumb project for cheap

[mental zephyr]

And what are the best psu in your opinion

[tidal geyser]

already said it

[steel umbra]

are those aliexpress x540 t2 good?

[tidal geyser]

the company that actually makes their own PSUs tbf more players do that now but meh

[tidal geyser]

yolo

[steel umbra]

i need two cheapest 10gbps cards

[gilded harness]

grey can psus in oems

trust

[mental zephyr]

I mean be quiet psu are in the tops

[tidal geyser]

not how it works

[steel umbra]

they’re like 12 euros 😂

[tidal geyser]

cant just go (insert brand here) is the best as a brand tends to sell a lot more than just one item and most tend to also make products for different categories

[gilded harness]

ion even know who use be quiet psus

[tidal geyser]

most of the PSUs corsair sells now are at least b tier

take thishttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/htmlview?pli=1

[spark lichen]

for the hyte y70 and their vertical GPU mounting, would a 3rd party stabilizer be needed or is it totally fine?

[mental zephyr]

Should I overclocked ram to 1.4v

While having 9800x3d

[mental zephyr]

Get the one with the screen

[spark lichen]

naw its neat but it wont be used at all

[tidal geyser]

its fineee

[spark lichen]

oh wait the hyte y70 pcie cable is only a 4.0 when my motherboard is a 5.0 using an RTX 5080

is that gonna be a big problem

[tidal geyser]

it should not back power so yolo

[tidal geyser]

nop

[mental zephyr]

You saying it would break

Fry

[tidal geyser]

no

its exactly what im saying it should not do

[mental zephyr]

Ohh

[spark lichen]

would it not make a difference in performance between a 4.0 and a 5.0 pcie?

[mental zephyr]

I didn’t quite read alright

[mental zephyr]

Nahhhh you can even use pcie 3

[tidal geyser]

like 1%

[mental zephyr]

5 fps

[tidal geyser]

pcie 3 you do start to notice a small difference

[spark lichen]

they have a 5.0 one but its out of stock so thankfully a 4.0 one still works

[mental zephyr]

What rtx 5080 u gonna get

[bold olive]

dealing with front panel with an matx motherboard and a gpu installed:

[spark lichen]

MSI ventus

[quasi moat]

This version

[spark lichen]

would their be like a pcie 4.0 mode in the bios id have to turn on?

[grizzled frost]

there’s almost zero difference between pcie gen5 and gen4 for gaming

[mental zephyr]

Nice

[grizzled frost]

at most 1%, and that’s largely just for the 4090/5090

[tidal geyser]

nop

[tidal geyser]

aka like 1%

[grizzled frost]

rounds to 0% for any card but the 4090/5090

[tidal geyser]

das not math

[spark lichen]

thats very nice to know ty guys

[tidal geyser]

if you go for a chart of 100% any difference would fall to 1%

[grizzled frost]

<0.5% rounds to 0% when dealing with integers only

[bold olive]

as a ventus 5060 ti user: 😍

😍 😍

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-rainbow-spew-disgust-disgusted-gif-10750848403272902220

[grizzled frost]

ai overview…

[tidal geyser]

stop with the ai

this is not where you can use ai

[grizzled frost]

live laugh fucking hate ai overview

[bold olive]

no ai

[spark lichen]

they are clean icl

[grizzled frost]

ai overview is okay for general information, absolutely horrible for anything specific

[bold olive]

and the ai part is; i just cant

[bold olive]

casually has a z5 royal neo on his floor

ur the top 1%

[tidal geyser]

why just a 990 pro

also that looks like a 7800X3D

[quasi moat]

Sum lite

[golden sage]

Yo! nice royals

[solar moat]

good way to waste cash

[quasi moat]

Me and you are the coolest guys here

[golden sage]

gulp i- wouldnt really say that but yes, everyone has their tastes

[quasi moat]

I like the taste of chrome dome cl28 6000

[solar moat]

i like tcl 30 more at ddr5 8000

[solar moat]

pleass say you running good timings on ram

[gritty spruce]

Hello, could someone advise me a "budget" am5 motherboard, with a good vrm, so that in a few years I could put in a new cpu without any problems? (Just bios update)

[golden sage]

The Royal Neo kit to the right just came back today from RMA, its cl28 6000!

the one to the left is a royal kit cl36 7200

[wet ember]

How can I improve my audio situation? My EarPods aren't long enough to reach my PC front panel so I have to plug them into my 2nd monitor, but that's also annoying because it touches my arm and gets caught around my mouse

[spark lichen]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/VggDrM

okay so can yall take a look at this and verbally abuse me if im doing something stupid here
im getting 3rd party cables from cablemod (c series for the corsair PSU).
also what im wondering is will i need a fan controller for all those fans? or how does that work?

[wet ember]

I saw the Hyte Y70 and immediately knew that's what's wrong with it

[idle quarry]

whats generally better to do with 7 fans (aio included) 4 intake 3 exhaust or 3 intake 4 exhaust

[wet ember]

As long as you don't have negative pressure

[spark lichen]

whats up with that case? i think it looks jazzy

[wet ember]

Too much glass personally

[spark lichen]

oh so its a personal thing and not like an actual product issue, had me worrying there for a sec

[wet ember]

Yeah I mean I don't care for PC aesthetics too much when my PC is on the floor

[idle quarry]

im rlly clueless as to what this pressue is, can you elaborate on it?

[wet ember]

So negative pressure is when u have more exhaust fans than intake fans

Apparently it attracts more dust buildup

[idle quarry]

so if more exhaust > intake does that mean i should just go for 3 intake and 4 exhaust?

wait what

mb 4 intake and 3 exhaust

however ive heard that rear being intake instead of exhaust is quite bad as:

Rear intake fights natural airflow

Hot air from the CPU/GPU usually wants to exit out the back/top

Rear intake can push warm air back toward the CPU

Airflow can become turbulent, reducing efficiency

You may see slightly higher CPU temps than necessary

[cold skiff]

Comes with special packaging to justify the extra dollars

[tidal geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193783296917507/1354500816744087662/airflow.gif

[cold skiff]

Not technically correct. You can have more exhaust fans at lower rpm/pressure and less intake at higher rpm/pressure and still have positive pressure

[idle quarry]

in my case i dont have bottom fans

[wet ember]

Thanks for the clarification

So it's a combination of the number of intake/exhaust fans and the RPM/air force

[cold skiff]

It will depend on your fan curves also.

[tidal geyser]

in that case too

[cold skiff]

I still need to switch my exhaust to intake on the rear now you’ve mentioned this as I forgot to do that when I got my aio

[grizzled frost]

fan curves? nah, fan wall

[cold skiff]

I’m positive pressure until my fans ramp up then I’m negative which isn’t good

[somber zealot]

seems pretty good, you can get windows for 15 bucks though. Also why is the 2TB the same price as 4tb? lol

even 20 bucks more

[idle quarry]

so i could in my case choose to have front + rear intake and aio on top. And then just adjust my rpm

[spark lichen]

oh thats my old nvme im gonna put in the new computer for backup. ill prob never need to use it with a 4TB drive, but ill use the old one for image saving and word documents and such

[somber zealot]

why’s it 333 dollars though?

[spark lichen]

i got a 5.0 drive for the boot drive and for clipping
then a 4tb 4.0 on for game storage
then the old 3.0 one for whatever

[spark lichen]

i have no clue , PC part picker issue

[somber zealot]

lol

[grizzled frost]

not a pcpartpicker issue, just the volatility in the market making prices a little wonky

[tidal geyser]

what are you doing? as that cpu is about at max temp aka 89c

[grizzled frost]

old image, at the time i think i was running cinebench multicore

[tidal geyser]

interesting

[spark lichen]

@tidal geyser thoughts? i know you basically answered all questions throughout it, but is that a good build?

[grizzled frost]

fans basically never ramp on the CPU, 240mm AIO is plenty for the 7800x3d

[spark lichen]

also i know pc part picker shows if parts are compatible, will i need to double check to make sure everything fits into the hyte case?

[grizzled frost]

you could have the same PC for like 750eur less if you spent less on aesthetics

[spark lichen]

im very aware of that... idk if i wanna tho

[grizzled frost]

otherwise, looks fine

that ram just makes me sad, but you can't do much better for the price

[spark lichen]

white part tax, rgb vomit, LCD on an AIO which isnt needed

i didnt need to do allat, but itll look pretty sick

[grizzled frost]

Not my preferred aesthetic, but to each their own

[tidal geyser]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/dVVr9C

[plucky tulip]

anyone have any reccomendation for a gaming laptop around 1k? I cant buy a pc cause i travel around a lot

[spark lichen]

i wont have it rainbow, ill prob keep it a solid white or a cool blue light

[tidal geyser]

white PSU with sleved cables

[grizzled frost]

If spending your money on aesthetics makes you happy, then it's money well spent

[tidal geyser]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1106613567966429224

i know what its named but really should be changed to buying adviced

[grizzled frost]

should be "tell me how to spend my money"

[tidal geyser]

xd

the worst is when someone else has already made up their mind

[grizzled frost]

i hate when people come in acting like they want advice, but they actually just want someone to blindly approve of their choices

[tidal geyser]

yeee

[spark lichen]

i cant find a pic on what the cables look like, are they in that mesh stuff? or is it a braided fabric

[tidal geyser]

discord kills the quality

[grizzled frost]

discord compression moment

[spark lichen]

hm. that would shave like 100 off the total but i personally dont like when the cables arent aligned like this

[grizzled frost]

cables have combs, so it's up to you how you route it

[spark lichen]

also kinda crazy how a 1.2k watt PSU at platinum cert is cheaper than a 1k one at gold

[tidal geyser]

it comes with combes

[somber zealot]

the fans, RAM and storage is what makes it so much more expensive though

[tidal geyser]

well there are no parts he can make better anyways for a ok price

[spark lichen]

what site is this?

[spark lichen]

the fan price is incorrect, they are £8 on amazon atm

[somber zealot]

oh, awesome

[spark lichen]

yee

[fringe prairie]

15 inch legion 5 g10 would be my immediate go to if it’s still $989

[spark lichen]

[fringe prairie]

if not i’d look for a loq, omen 16/slim, autora 16

[plucky tulip]

is loq good?

[fringe prairie]

g10 is fine

probably the best budget laptop rn

[tidal geyser]

solo pantherlake in like 11hrs

[fringe prairie]

HYPE

b770 maybe asw

[tidal geyser]

me is essited about C class igpu

[spark lichen]

this sheet i got sent doesnt have that one on there, is that a newer PSU?

[tidal geyser]

yes

[grizzled frost]

intel bring back optane at CES please (i'm delusional)

[fringe prairie]

check the full list

not the main one

[tidal geyser]

yea the other one

but kit guru is also the real deal

[fringe prairie]

also review > tier list

[tidal geyser]

already sent him one where it got 8.5/10

[grizzled frost]

both, both is good

[tidal geyser]

o wow the only cons i see
"Cons:

A lot of competition in this sector.
Availability will likely be a problem in various countries (for a while at least).

"

[cold skiff]

Crucial ramped up NAND price a month ago. Samsung didn’t. All crucial/micron SSDs more expensive now, like Corsair.

[tidal geyser]

"Pros:

Fully modular.
PCIe 5.1 and ATX 3.1 compliance.
Platinum levels of efficiency.
White and black colours available.
105C-rated Japanese capacitors from Nippon Chemi Con and Rubycon.
Quiet fluid dynamic bearing Fan.
Ripple suppression is good.
Load regulation is tight.

"

[spark lichen]

hmmm that is incredibly tempting, even with the combs the wires are a bit wonky

[tidal geyser]

"KitGuru says: The Lian Li SX1200P delivers high-grade power at Platinum levels of efficiency. It is fully modular, quiet and the quality of the modular cabling is super. With a 10-year warranty, we rate this product very highly."

[somber zealot]

oh

[spark lichen]

HMMMM

[tidal geyser]

should be fine

[cold skiff]

Yeah Samsung and WD SSDs went from more expensive and better to buy (in general) to cheaper than some garbage SSDs

[cyan bay]

hi can anyone suggest me a good bang for buck controller? I recently watch the LTT Controller showdown where the Easysmx x20 won..

[grizzled frost]

then you have your answer

[cyan bay]

im js looking out for more choices

because I don't wanna end up regretting

[cold skiff]

Garbage ssd (I actually own also) when compared to the WD sn850x that is cheaper and better (that I also own). And the price is lols.

Micron just inflated NAND where as Samsung didn’t

[spark lichen]

yeah i mean if i get it, put it all together i can just get cablemod ones after the fact, may as well see what it looks like first to see if i can save a bit. thanks for the recommendation

[cold skiff]

Think WD may even be Toshiba/Kioxa who don’t inflate NAND

I can’t remember

[spark lichen]

is there literally any bad thing about getting a PSU with more wattage than your PC pulls?

[cold skiff]

Yeah WD is Kioxia

[tidal geyser]

nah

less efficient but das about it

[cold skiff]

So of the biggest 3 NAND makers. Only Micron are charging a fortune. Kioxia and Samsung have remained consistent with global inflation

[spark lichen]

i see, there is a 1000W one but thats only like £9 cheaper

[cold skiff]

Remember Micron are the company that “reluctantly” pulled out the consumer DRAM Crucial brand … reluctantly

[spark lichen]

do i just get the 1000W one anyways since the PC wont even be near 1k W ?

[tidal geyser]

ye

like even a 5090 is "just" 600w

[cold skiff]

Fun thing is GN won’t cover the SSD price discrepancy because it doesn’t fit his angry narrative. Yet it should do. Until every company charges the same he won’t be a little bitch about it on YouTube

And when everyone charges the same ya can’t really argue. That’s the going rate.

[spark lichen]

this is very anecdotal but how regularly are PSUs restocked, idm waiting a month or 2 to save a bit of money but any more than that ill just buy from a place that has it rn

[dawn garden]

hey guys, is it possible to upgrade your wifi device?

._. mine is apparently legacy and hasnt recieved updates since like 2020

no wonder i only get 70-150mbps on a 1gig line

[grizzled frost]

you're likely limited by the hardware in the router, not any firmware or software

[dawn garden]

really?

[grizzled frost]

yes

[dawn garden]

because my router is cox panoramic wifi and my phone gets like 400mbps down

[grizzled frost]

what device is limited to 70-150mbps

[dawn garden]

my desktop...

[grizzled frost]

prebuilt or custom built

[dawn garden]

..prebuilt ._.

[grizzled frost]

do you know what model and year, more specific the better

[dawn garden]

i have a intel(R) dual band wireless ac 3168

or do you mean my pc?

my pc was a prebuilt by ibuypower and i dont know what model is it.. ive tried asking them and they dont respond much

i got it fro christmas like 3 years ago

[grizzled frost]

I was trying to find out the PC, but that's cause i was gonna look up the wifi chip myself, thanks for saving me the trouble

That chip is limited to wifi5

[dawn garden]

is that bad?

[grizzled frost]

Do you have the antennas installed on the back of the motherboard?

[dawn garden]

yeah

[grizzled frost]

It's quite old

[dawn garden]

well yeah, thats why its legacy and gcc wont update my drivers for it

gcc is gigabyte control center btw

[grizzled frost]

You may be able to find drivers for that chip online directly

[dawn garden]

it keeps telling me i have a update available for my wifi uwd and then i click ok and start the update and then it runs the update and then windows is like "no u" and it refreshes and it says "you have an update" and its the freakin wifi update again

nah apparently im on the final driver for my oem

i already looked into that... im just wondering if its possible to change wifi cards entirely?

if i like buy a new one is it super hard to switch it or whatever..

[grizzled frost]

You can change the card itself, but it can be a bit involved depending on where it is on the board

Do you have any PCIe slots available?

[dawn garden]

its in the top left corner

[grizzled frost]

Oh you can see it?

[dawn garden]

if i open the case i can. i think?

._. it says intel on it and its the only intel hardware in my machine so im guessing...?

[grizzled frost]

Mind taking a picture of it?

[dawn garden]

ummm

thats kind of complicated but i guess i could if i had to..

;~; that requires moving my moniter and stuff

[grizzled frost]

It would likely be easier to get a wifi PCIe card

[dawn garden]

its connected by pcie though

so i assume i could disconnect it from that pcie 1 slot

and put the new one in the same slot?

[grizzled frost]

Is it on a separate card in a PCIe slot?

[dawn garden]

im just like...what if it borks my whole computer

i ...think so?

its a little card thats sticking out of my mobo

[grizzled frost]

A picture would be really appreciated

[dawn garden]

.... ~ ok

brb a sec i take off the heavy tempered glass

[grizzled frost]

Sorry, it's just not easy to be confident in my advice to you without a picture

[dawn garden]

okay

[spark lichen]

okay now that im getting a very good PC, do you guys have any monitor recs? (9800x3d and a 5080 build)

[dawn garden]

so

i didnt have to take off the tempered glass (maybe)

becuse i mean. its glass! 😄 i just shined a flashlight through it and pushed my phone to the glass

but lemme know if its not good enough. because i can do it without even moving my monitor apparently

[grizzled frost]

yeah that's gonna be a pain to get to and swap

at the bottom of your motherboard there should be an open slot

[dawn garden]

oof really?

idk if there is or not my gpu is huge and i unfortunately have one of those cases with a massive metal encasement that hides my psu

[grizzled frost]

something that looks like this, at the very bottom

[hallow jasper]

just list the motherboard ..

[dawn garden]

gigabyte b550 ud ac

rev 1.1

(ive been updating all my software lately including my bios haha)

[grizzled frost]

You could get something like this to upgrade your wifi
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Archer-TX55E-Bluetooth-Ultra-Low/dp/B0B1NRGDQ4

[dawn garden]

ok but looking at that doesnt that not work for my pc?

..the plugs are on the wrong side or the antenna would be shoving against my gpu

i dont think i can put my wifi card under my gpu cos of my displayport cable..

[plush pine]

is cables melting on 5080s still a thing? mine arrives on thursday and i dont want it melting :)

[hallow jasper]

why not just swap in an AX210 in the existing E-Key m.2 slot?

[dawn garden]

..is that a thing.

you're asking me when i'm asking you XD

[hallow jasper]

Cables melting on GPU's equipped with that connector has never stopped being a thing.

[plush pine]

How would one prevent that?

[dawn garden]

^ why i am too afraidypants to upgrade my gpu despite the shockingly affordable 5060

[hallow jasper]

There is nothing you can do to prevent it. Fully seat all cables and play games.

[plush pine]

fun 🙃 thank you!

[dawn garden]

enjoy your 5080 buddy

i was gonna upgrade my ram next

[plush pine]

thank you <3

[dawn garden]

....loool...

2 months ago 32gb 3600mhz ddr5 was like 90 bucks

christmas eve it was 250

[tidal geyser]

so 7200MT

[dawn garden]

its the first time ive noticed a major price spike in tech before hearing about it on LTT

i was like "oh cmon!!!"

[tidal geyser]

gpu

[dawn garden]

nah i didnt even game when gpu prices started going out of control

i had a lenovo thinkpad back then lol

i think it wouldnt be too hard to change this chip

but im wary about the wires? idk what they are or what they go to