tech-chat-1

[craggy cove]

so uhh yeah really using it

[plain cypress]

I've been tempted to buy a gen 5 SSD at various points this year

But I have 6 tb of nvme already

[gleaming rose]

ok im actually excited for panther lake now

[steel umbra]

fire

[plain cypress]

This year (2025 of course smh it's 2026 now)

[tacit star]

Smasnuuugg

[rigid fjord]

that moment when you remember being able to get a 2tb mx500 for 80

[craggy cove]

i have cs2, tf2 and omori... and nothing else really

[plain cypress]

I've been watching PTL wafers for the past year

[tacit star]

32GB DDR4 for €130

[plain cypress]

PTL was a real PITA 10 months ago

[craggy cove]

just cause i was bored...

[tacit star]

How better is btw 990 Pro than KC3000?

[rigid fjord]

now said 2tb mx500 is 250

[craggy cove]

explanation for every hardware upgrade ive had

[tacit star]

Isn't this discontinued lol

[plain cypress]

When I buy stuff cause I'm bored....I return it unopened 2 weeks later

[rigid fjord]

no difference in the long run, dram cache and gen 4 speed

[craggy cove]

well aliexpress and the used market doesnt have that offer

[rigid fjord]

still avaiable in retailers despite that

[tacit star]

KC3000 was a bit cheaper

Not heaps but it was cheaper

[plain cypress]

I still need to fix my $40 1080ti that doesn't run at full power

[craggy cove]

i have too much 40$ shit i bought cause "hmm 40$"

[mint bluff]

Are there legit Samsung galaxy S26 ultra specs that we know? Primarily the CPU.

[craggy cove]

motherboard, 16gb ram x2, bunch of ssds, psu, aios... etc

[rigid fjord]

might get myself an sn5000 to replace my sn500

[craggy cove]

bro used the gpuz screen capture

[craggy cove]

why test with valorant tho

[tacit star]

Aye it's garbage

Doesn't copy to clipboard

[tacit star]

I didn't, I wanted to play a game and was curious

Must test with proper Cyberpunk 2077

Btw both Cyberpunk 2077 and Red Dead Redemption 2 are rubbish, first that you can't RT without FSR, or use no RT if you don't upscale, and RDR2 for the AA

[steel umbra]

nm790 for 80, sn570 for 80,

[true stirrup]

From what to what?

Ah nvm so you get another PCIe slot

You would benefit more from the CPU upgrade you mentioned than from 2 GPUs

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/apka-attack-cat-attack-gif-13439615

[plucky lodge]

https://www.makeuseof.com/risky-windows-registry-tweak-make-ssd-twice-fast/

is this legit?

[tidal geyser]

i think i know what this is about

[hoary oar]

Wonder how much gpu prices will jump now

[tidal geyser]

you will not notice the difference

[hoary oar]

just managed to score my 5080 on time at 999€

[tidal geyser]

amd 15%

is the claim

[calm plaza]

does this look good for the price, pairing with a curved optimized r7 5700x. its currently the same price as the single fan variant
https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Assassin-SE-Cooler-Bearing/dp/B0C7BL9ZMR/138-9842790-2520037?pd_rd_w=gjeCW&content-id=amzn1.sym.f5690a4d-f2bb-45d9-9d1b-736fee412437&pf_rd_p=f5690a4d-f2bb-45d9-9d1b-736fee412437&pf_rd_r=59V7E2N6FYMDBXW0BAAQ&pd_rd_wg=7o8QM&pd_rd_r=d257f85a-61c6-4140-b4b8-cc9c63ec0b83&pd_rd_i=B0C7BL9ZMR&psc=1#customerReviews

[rigid fjord]

that moment when you used to get a 4tb nm790 for less than 200 also

[rigid fjord]

this will work for it but you can always go for a pa120se/ps120se or an a620 pro se

[calm plaza]

2 fan 2 heatsinks, probably overkill but those go for 30-50 dollars, yeah that sounds good. futureproofing specifically, you don't know how long these are going to be this cheap

[rigid fjord]

matches most 240mm aio's and the nh-d15 at a fraction of the cost

[steel umbra]

even if it is, not worth your time

i don’t see the benchmarks

• it breaks safe mode

yeah no thanks.

lemme find how much does it actually make a difference

i doubt it’s almost twice as fast

[rigid fjord]

funnily enough during ghost recon breakpoint

[plucky lodge]

it should x2 , becoz this is exact official thing microsoft released for windows server

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/windowsservernewsandbestpractices/announcing-native-nvme-in-windows-server-2025-ushering-in-a-new-era-of-storage-p/4477353

[steel umbra]

yeah, no not almost twice as fast, realistically up to +50% from the crystal disk mark tests and average is like +15%

[steel umbra]

any third party benchmarks?

i can’t really find any real world test where it improves speeds by more than 50%

[tidal geyser]

how big of a difference does it do real world

[steel umbra]

in some scenarios it hurts performance

[tidal geyser]

in actually doing stuff day to day

[steel umbra]

like -13% and -12% in certain tasks isn’t “almost twice as fast”

[tidal geyser]

trust me bro

[steel umbra]

also pretty sure windows can saturate slc cache of higher end ssds

like if a controller does 5gb/s and windows can do 5gb/s i don’t see where that trick would improve things significantly in all areas especially

so yeah up to +50% random 4k, not almost twice as fast

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/windows-11-rockets-ssd-performance-to-new-heights-with-hacked-native-nvme-driver-up-to-85-percent-higher-random-workload-performance-in-some-tests here it’s almost twice as fast in rnd4k write

[valid fiber]

gen 5 ssd seems pointless to me.
you can't use that speed in real applications anyway

[tired bear]

Is it qs or es?

[rigid fjord]

for 99.99% of users, yes, but there's 4 areas it's actually useful for

[calm plaza]

at this point you should just get a boot m.2 drive and put all of your games on some 4tb high-end sata

ive heard pcie based ssds have good compacity compared to similar priced stuff right now

[valid fiber]

i just made a java programm that iterates through all files in a folder and calculates the sha256 for every file in it
I'm certainly not limited by the pci-e speed not even close

[true stirrup]

Java moment

[rigid fjord]

primarily 3d rendering, video editing and code compiling are your 3 main uses for the speed and for dram cache on an nvme drive

[valid fiber]

using 7zip to backup the folder gives me similar speeds

[rigid fjord]

7zip is also usable for benchmarking

[tidal geyser]

no clue

[true stirrup]

I've made something similar like your thing
It's a version of WindDirStat in java a couple of years ago for a small school project
This thing sucking absolute ass it's an understatement lol
https://github.com/MD20M/JavaDirStat

[spark path]

what do I use for benchmarks?

[snow rune]

yo is this bad chat?

[true stirrup]

You need a benchmark for what

[spark path]

fps temps and stuff

[storm mason]

How can I install WIN11 on a new drive I installed? I reinstalled windows but I didn’t get the option to change the boot drive. I don’t have access to a USB stick….

How can I do it with the ISO file and download it to the proper drive?

[rigid fjord]

you need a usb stick for this

[storm mason]

: (

[true stirrup]

3DMark demo TimeSpy

[rigid fjord]

well rtss is a quick way of showing the stuff, but actual benchamrking tools, there's the likes of occt, 3d mark, cinebench, there's also benchmate

when it comes to rtss for me

[tacit star]

Fans not spinning at 100%?

[rigid fjord]

nope, because it's not needed even at those temps if you got a good fan curve set with whatever way you got fans set up

[tacit star]

Are you on 1080p and using the stock cooler?

[tidal geyser]

144TBW

is that a caching SSD in a datacenter or something

[rigid fjord]

1080p max/ultimate settings all the time, and an lf2 240mm for my cpu (ultimately overkill for said cpu and i can get the same temps on an air cooler)

[tacit star]

That's weird

Usually 5800X is the one that runs hotter

Isn't 5800X the hottest AM4 chip?

[spark path]

I am using hwinfo inside of rtss but it doesn't seem to be accurate, also my system doesn't feel stable at all, like I get random fps drops when I first launch a game or do a new thing in the game but then it's gone ryzen 7700 rx 9070 xt

[calm plaza]

you play strategy war games or cache intensive games?

lol

[rigid fjord]

it can and does, also no, not the hottest, technically that goes to the 5900x

[tacit star]

Oh yes, I forgot about this

But still, doesn't 5800X take the second place?

[rigid fjord]

i play multiple different game types tbh

[tacit star]

Now on 1080p your CPU is working harder, and this game is CPU intensive as well

[rigid fjord]

tied with the 5800x3d

[tacit star]

Afaik X3D does nothing for the temps?

[tacit star]

Or 5950X?

[rigid fjord]

runs cooler despite having more cores than a 5900x

[rigid fjord]

clearly not when it comes to breakpoint

[tacit star]

Is 5900X poorly engineered like 5800X?

[rigid fjord]

cpu at 26%
gpu at 100%

[rigid fjord]

i have a specific benchmarking overlay i use, but it's getting the same info as what hwinfo sees

[calm plaza]

the 5700x is barely 1-2% better than the 5600x but its 1% lows are proportionally better and its night and day in terms of retaining frames during background processes like streaming or video editing

[rigid fjord]

nope but there are some 5800x's that are essentially 5900x's with some cores disabled

[rigid fjord]

more like 5-10% better than a 5600x, primarily due to the extra 2c 4t

[calm plaza]

i think the two cpus run almost identically on gaming by itself but i might be wrong

[rigid fjord]

wrong, it be a 5600 vs 5600x that it's almost identical

[worthy pumice]

Yo guys, I'm having a problem that keeps annoying me.

So basically my PC keeps waking whenever I put it to sleep but apparantely it shuts down without ever having being woken and I've tried reinstalling the GPU drivers but that doesnt seem to help. I notice no other problems aside from the computer seemingly refusing to stay in sleep mode.
Theres also no problems occuring whenever I play demanding games so I have no idea whats going on

[steel umbra]

why not two nvmes

[craggy cove]

yknow i never thought about why my ethernet port was like this

[calm plaza]

you can do whatever you want, but price hikes

[craggy cove]

i thought it was to prevent the clip breaking but i think its just bent the wrong way now

[steel umbra]

or one 8tb

higher capacities haven’t increased in price as much as 1-2tb

or 500gb

modern nvmes are plenty fast to handle the os and games at the same time

no need for two

[calm plaza]

a low compacity 250-500g m.2 to retain os boot and internet transfer benefits but you could save money by getting a high-end sata which tend to have comparable loading times in games

that was my thought process

[worthy pumice]

I keep getting this whenever I look in event Viewer

"The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly."

[steel umbra]

unless you already have one filled with stuff and want to upgrade

[steel umbra]

it doesn’t really do much

it’s more of a waste of money

250-500g ssds tend to be poor value

the benefit of two nvmes are minimal to nonexistent

if it were two hdds or two slow sata ssds then sure

but nowadays gen 3/4 nvmes are cheaper than sata

and plenty fast to handle the os and games

or files transfers

[wheat torrent]

Can you enable them?

[wheat torrent]

Bro

I hate those fucking io shields

On my b550 the ground clip was literally going INSIDE the USB-C port

[tidal geyser]

wait what there are dual ccd 5800X'es?

[wheat torrent]

Xes

[random junco]

who doesnt

ive been cut almost every single time ive held one

[tidal geyser]

XE is a thing

[wheat torrent]

If I'm buying a new mobo I'll make sure it has io integrated

[random junco]

those are much more pricey 👀

[wheat torrent]

My current one does

[wheat torrent]

Nah

My b650 is budget

Gigabyte gaming ax v2 I think

Cheapest full mobo in the store

[wheat torrent]

I had to cut the io shield pin with pillers

Was afraid it going to short circuit or something

[random junco]

do you use a 2.5gbps ethernet cable? im curious

[wheat torrent]

I don't have 2.5gbps

My router is 1Gbps

If my router/switch was I would use it with my NAS

[random junco]

ooh right nice

[wheat torrent]

Except my NAS is only 1Gbps

[random gyro]

Hey, So idk if you can notice but my words on my computer have been like very blurry or however u say it? Its not very like clear.

[craggy cove]

mine just made it slip in and out of the socket easily

but yeah fuck these

[wheat torrent]

So there is like 2 components missing for me to use 2.5Gbps

[craggy cove]

it went like in and out when i was putting the io shield too

[wheat torrent]

I would take two 1Gbps ports over 2.5Gbps

[random junco]

what monitor res btw

[wheat torrent]

It would be more useful for me

[random gyro]

1080

[tidal geyser]

cleartype

[craggy cove]

i bought a cheap gigabyte b650 eagle ax and that has a built in io shield, but it had a really fucking weird problem where the power switch only works once

[wheat torrent]

You have text antaliasing off

[wheat torrent]

Like mine?

[random junco]

run the cleartype wizard

adjust for your eyes

[tidal geyser]

i said that

[random junco]

sorry

[wheat torrent]

Nvm eagle is diff

I think

[craggy cove]

works completely fine, but wont shut off with the power button
turning it off with windows works, but then it wont react to the power button again until you do a cmos reset

[tidal geyser]

tbf i only said cleartype

[random junco]

you just said cleartype though, imagine he doesnt (message gets cut off)

[craggy cove]

luckily the seller had a 6 month warranty

[random gyro]

oh wait nvm its cuz my performance thing was set to best for performance not like quality

[wheat torrent]

Odd shit

[random junco]

yeah this

[random gyro]

that was on

[wheat torrent]

Guilty

[wheat torrent]

Yes this will do that

[random gyro]

Should i put it to quality or best for my comp

[craggy cove]

basically the b650 gaming ax v2 but with 1gb lan, no extra 4 pin cpu cable and gen 5 support

[wheat torrent]

I recall it turns on when entering safe mode also

[tidal geyser]

does your cpu even support windows 11

[random gyro]

Yeah why haha

[wheat torrent]

You can enable each one individually if you want

[spark path]

ok so like can I overclock it a little bit as long as it doesn't exceed 65C?

[tidal geyser]

why do you need to do that

[rigid fjord]

nope, they're essentially fused off and unable to have them enabled

[wheat torrent]

Ah very nice

[craggy cove]

holy shit someone just buy this already 🙏

[random gyro]

More performance :d

[tidal geyser]

what is wrong with over 65c

[craggy cove]

hate living herre

[wheat torrent]

Quite interesting

[craggy cove]

wont risk shipping a pc either

[tidal geyser]

what like 1 more fps in a 500 fps game

[random gyro]

Yes 🙂

[wheat torrent]

91c is the number you want to stay under I recall

[rigid fjord]

essentially yes, there's also some that originated as 5900x's but with the a ccd removed

[wheat torrent]

Or well you can reach it

[spark path]

nothing but I assumed since at 100% not overclocked it's not even hitting 60c so maybe I can overclock it a little bit?

[tidal geyser]

big hard when that cpu is literally made to try and be at 95c as hard as it can

[tidal geyser]

wait so 12 core CCD??

[rigid fjord]

you didn't bend it up before insertion

[wheat torrent]

Is it 95c?

[tidal geyser]

from what i know consumer amd cpus have only ever maxed at 2 CCDs

[wheat torrent]

Always thought its 91 isn't why

[spark path]

@tidal geyser is that how it works or am I wrong?

[craggy cove]

well the seller didnt i suppose, i will blame him

[tidal geyser]

its up to cpu

[craggy cove]

but now it actually clips

infinite fps now

[tidal geyser]

amd do not gain much from more power but slap on some PBO and call it a day

[craggy cove]

pbo -30 gang

[wheat torrent]

Can you push 7700 to 150W?

[random gyro]

Should I keep discord hardware acc on

[spark path]

what's PBO?

[random gyro]

no idea what it is

[wheat torrent]

I pushed my 7900 from 80 to 150W

[tidal geyser]

yes

[random gyro]

aight

[tidal geyser]

auto oc

[spark path]

where do I do that?

[rigid fjord]

dual ccd would mean 6c 12t +6c 12t, amd can quite easily disable them at a physical level at fabrication

[tidal geyser]

you can push it to like 800w

[thorny saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-undecided-jeff-goldblum-speechless-i-cant-gif-16009127

[tidal geyser]

bios

[spark path]

wait why?

[thorny saddle]

its undervolting

[tidal geyser]

hardware acceleration

[spark path]

doesn't that use some of your system resources?

[craggy cove]

you get this wyd

[rigid fjord]

auto oc, is the normal boosting amd does, pbo being a combo of OC tuning and underclocking

[thin bloom]

I can't find my dad's heat gun right now so I'm going to let the board soak in isopropyl alcohol while I wait for my parents to come back

[thorny saddle]

get better pc

[craggy cove]

id blow this board up atp

[craggy cove]

wrong, put liquid metal for vrm cooling

[wheat torrent]

What are you doing

[tidal geyser]

are you trying to clean the socket of flux without putting iso in the socket

[rigid fjord]

also a 12c 24t ccd is rumoured for zen6/7 tbh

[tidal geyser]

i know

[random gyro]

Enabling performance mode on amd software, does it make games look bad or?

[wheat torrent]

What are you doing also

[random gyro]

Wymm

[wheat torrent]

Why are you changing those settings

I'm pretty sure the performance impact is negligible

[thin bloom]

I'm trying to clean the socket and cpu. Since there is thermal paste on the side of the cpu. Did you listen to the vid I posted of the pc making noise?

[tidal geyser]

i said that

[wheat torrent]

Wtf

[random gyro]

i change stuff cuz its very urgey sometimes

[wheat torrent]

So why is your motherboard oily

What is that substance

[random gyro]

cuz idk if its right or not

[craggy cove]

its a whole saga

tc1 the odyssey

[tidal geyser]

mate its dead hope you have not killed the cpu by doing this even tho its almost worthless to begin with

just spend 100$ on a am4 board and cpu

[wheat torrent]

Why is he trying to clean the socket??

Thermal paste shouldn't be conductive

[thin bloom]

You're probably talking about the flux in the image

[tidal geyser]

no shit that is why you would need to clean the socket if it got in there

[rigid fjord]

if you get some of the cheap stuff, it is

[wheat torrent]

I saw someone fill the socket with thermal paste and put a CPU in it and it still worked

[craggy cove]

what is cheaper than mx4

[wheat torrent]

Damn

[tidal geyser]

im so done with this, ITS BROKEN AND SHORTED LET IT DIE

[craggy cove]

sunflower oil or something

[wheat torrent]

But how are you cleaning the socket if you have the cpu in the socket?

[valid fiber]

it would make sense if paste got in a pin and prevents contact to the cpu

[rigid fjord]

random aliexpress pastes

[thin bloom]

Because they left flux on the socket after repair

[tidal geyser]

they did not do it right the socket is also melted

[thin bloom]

And i don't know if I got all of it off so I'm letting it soak

[tidal geyser]

it will never work again

[wheat torrent]

https://youtu.be/t52UW5bXkbs

[craggy cove]

hmm

• 2.5€ shipping

is this why arctic has that authenticity code

[wheat torrent]

You're motherboard looks fucked

[rigid fjord]

yes, and because of india

[craggy cove]

or i could buy more 20g tubes

[left trellis]

the 400 usd 7900xt works

[thin bloom]

I probably melt it even worse when I put the heat gun onto it, then drop the cpu into the really hot socket. Cpu might stick to the socket

[rigid fjord]

1x 4g tube is enough to do up to 10 pc's

[craggy cove]

i have 5 circles out of 7 left on my 20g tube

[tidal geyser]

wat

[craggy cove]

pretty goated

got it from the same seller for 5€, maybe shouldve bought 2?

then again ive been heavily using this for half a year

[tidal geyser]

no the BGA balls under the cpu are shorted and you cannot heat the plastic

[wheat torrent]

[craggy cove]

yep one lasted me like a year of repastes n stuff

[wheat torrent]

Does those thermal pads that you cut

Once used do they become liquid

Like when you try to separate the cooler is it just sticky glue

[tidal geyser]

PTM 7950?

[wheat torrent]

Or does it become hard again, yes

[craggy cove]

x for lga 1700, dot for am5 and other squares ;/////

[abstract wigeon]

anyone got experience with biqu build plates for 3d printers? everywhere i see says they are much better for adhesion than stock, but i cant tell how necessary that is

[thin bloom]

My plan is to remelt the solder under the socket, then drop the cpu into the hot melting socket, then clap it down and let it cool

[tidal geyser]

pad when cold fluid while hot

[wheat torrent]

Drop the cpu into melting socket

[tidal geyser]

but that would not fix a short?

[wheat torrent]

What are you even saying??

[craggy cove]

the pea dot filled my am5 ihs perfectly with no overflow, its goated

but i still put x on my personal rig cause im stupid like that

[tidal geyser]

you would need to take off the socket reball it then drop it back down with a ton of flux troughout the process

all without melting the socket too

[abstract wigeon]

hey @rigid fjord , when you have a moment could i get a pic of your little 3d printer x dryer mod? gonna copy :)

[thin bloom]

I don't know it's worth a shot

[wheat torrent]

Wouldn't you risk ruining cpu?

Doubling your damages

[tidal geyser]

no you would certainly have a high chance of damaging or even braking the cpu doing so

[wheat torrent]

Just get a new mobo at that point

[tidal geyser]

60$
https://www.ebay.com/itm/127424087342

[thin bloom]

Yeah because I don't want to burn myself on a 700°F socket but i might try gently placing it in

[craggy cove]

man who would pay that much for lga 1151

[tidal geyser]

he wanted to pay 100$

[craggy cove]

jeez

not even worth to use legacy hardware if those are the costs

just like those shitty dell oem prebuilts

[ivory mountain]

i thought my 400 usd 6900xt was a good deal

damn it

[left trellis]

twas listed for 600 i offered 350, he said 550, we met in the middle

wait im tweaking

[tidal geyser]

defo way over budget but considering he had enough money to want to waste away a i7 7700 and bough 2 lga 1151 sockets and then could have paid 100$ for a shitty repair this deal should be nice https://www.ebay.com/itm/389422310695

[left trellis]

thats not math

[shell sail]

3700x my goat

[tidal geyser]

o wow comes with ez 200$ worth of ram

[shell sail]

the ram alone in that is worth more than the board

id snipe it just for that bro

[left trellis]

dis

[tidal geyser]

@thin bloom

[shell sail]

its a good deal considering the ram, id say yes

[tidal geyser]

way better than also breaking his current cpu

[shell sail]

true

[tidal geyser]

and he can even use windows 11 without having to fuck around

[shell sail]

3700x is still a good CPU, i gave my sister my old pc and it had it and its amazing

[ivory mountain]

aaaaaaa

[tidal geyser]

ikr

[thin bloom]

Okay I might go with that but to expensive right now but I will consider it and I will keep my eye on it

[tidal geyser]

just check for am4 bundles swear iv seen 2600 and some random am4 motherboard go for close to 100 or lower

[south arrow]

[tidal geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1291101463745003570/1358446930237194340/2DD5AE05-A2F5-4C05-9665-082891C881E0.gif

[tulip sparrow]

WTF ASUS what is with this oddball BIOS error?

[tidal geyser]

hello andrew

[tidal geyser]

update from the bios

[craggy cove]

wrong bios file ig

[tulip sparrow]

Shouldn't be the wrong BIOS file its coming straight from the ASUS website for my Motherboard

[craggy cove]

better than msi who just straight up doesnt show the file

[tulip sparrow]

https://www.asus.com/us/supportonly/tuf gaming b550-plus wifi ii/helpdesk_bios/

[south arrow]

Are you in bios?

[tidal geyser]

no

[south arrow]

I dont believe so either

[south arrow]

Right

[ivory mountain]

aisuits3 moment

[craggy cove]

i eventually figured out i had my hands on a prebuilt motherboard...

[plain cypress]

It would 100% have been for shits and giggles

[left trellis]

Chat

[craggy cove]

another pos i have to sell

[left trellis]

Im able to get 175 usd + 7800xt for my 7900xt thoughts?

[south arrow]

So topken boot to bios spamming delete or f12 while booting then run the bios update preferably through a usb in bios options

[tidal geyser]

damit

[south arrow]

Id rec watching a video at the same time

[craggy cove]

nobody ever sells those so i have no idea what the prices on thst should be

[tidal geyser]

welp could be something on my end being wonky

[thin bloom]

If i do kill the cpu from my experiment oh well. It only has one year left of it's life and corners of the cpu have randomly bent in the past were I straighten the corners with out breaking them

[tulip sparrow]

Hopefully putting the BIOS file on my Ventoy USB stick works so I can upgrade in the bios itself

[tidal geyser]

people are still using core 2 dous, that cpu still has some worth

[thin bloom]

Majority it was the bottom right corner

[tulip sparrow]

If that doesn't work I am going to have to do a bios flashback which MIGHT require my to redo my Ventoy stick which won't be a problem I can just move the ISO's off of it to do so

[random junco]

last time i had bent pins, i bent them even more and then they just snapped off
wouldve turned out better if i wasnt fixing it with a sheet of paper though

[craggy cove]

maybe

[tidal geyser]

das what he did and why he got the socket replaced

[craggy cove]

toothpick has been the best in my experience

[random junco]

i tried it with a toothpick and it just kept scraping over the top of the pins

[tidal geyser]

i still cant believe the repair shop actually accepted to even try

[tulip sparrow]

Here goes nothing BRB while I boot into BIOS on my AM4 platform

[craggy cove]

i rarely get to say this but skill issue

[buoyant bridge]

me to all AMD haters

[tulip sparrow]

I tend to use a thin piece of plastic to get between pins on a CPU

NEVER messed with the pins on the socket itself

[random junco]

oh god

i remember when i had melted pins lol

[tidal geyser]

jebus

[tulip sparrow]

Delt with AM4 and never Intel CPUs since my i5 3570k

I have been lucky in that regard

[tidal geyser]

i had a bent pin on a pc i sold to a chap i had to bend 2 times until it was fixed

2nd time i did wanna replace the board but did not have a spare one so i got another in case he came back a 3rd time

[tulip sparrow]

Take a credit card or something similar and run it through the gaps between pins if it catches then you likely have a bent pin

[tidal geyser]

also bent back am4 pins after it was almost fully glued on the cooler

[tidal geyser]

how thin is your credit card

[tulip sparrow]

Stupid AM4 heatsink issues

[rigid fjord]

when i got a mo, yeah

[tulip sparrow]

I said or something similar

[tidal geyser]

PGA issue

[craggy cove]

fuck pga and their weak retention

[ivory mountain]

am5 on top

[tulip sparrow]

Had that happen to my 5800X3D and yes had to bend pins back afterwards

[ivory mountain]

lga betta

[tulip sparrow]

Twisting the heatsink off doesn't always bloody work

[tidal geyser]

for the most part heat it up before turning it off then quickly screw off the cooler then before going up twist it then lift and boom cpu still in socket

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[craggy cove]

a little cinebench helps

[tulip sparrow]

lol

[craggy cove]

but a 5800x3d idk

i had problems with a 1600 because the paste turned in to glue

[tulip sparrow]

Can't really run any software when the MB the CPU is in is dead and you are transplanting the CPU to a different system

[craggy cove]

idk hair dryer

[tulip sparrow]

Had a loose screw in the system on my way from Michigan down here to Florida and yeah it lodged itself behind the MB and fried it

[tidal geyser]

sorting screws is such a pain

[tulip sparrow]

So yeah had to replace the MB

Went from an X570 to a b550

Got 2.5GB ethernet out of the switch but lost some pci-e lanes and sata ports

[tidal geyser]

did you need any of it

[tulip sparrow]

You tell me

[frosty ruin]

@tidal geyser this was the time where I applied kyronaut extreme in this shit.

[tulip sparrow]

At least my GPU/NVME and capture card all work

[frosty ruin]

Regret

[tulip sparrow]

NO NO NO NO NO NO that is bad

[tidal geyser]

red

[stone idol]

Hello, I noticed this on the cpu socket for my motherboard is it cooked?

[frosty ruin]

This was the coating. Removed it because no LM action

[tidal geyser]

bend it back

[stone idol]

Do what

[frosty ruin]

Now that I know that LM is better I need to reapply

[tulip sparrow]

Looks like you have 2 bent pins there

[frosty ruin]

Let’s go

[tulip sparrow]

1 near the outer edge of the socket and one near the center @stone idol

[frosty ruin]

I also need better thermal pads

The GDDR6X is hotboxing

[tidal geyser]

i really need to get myself a microscope

[frosty ruin]

SMD soldering action

[tidal geyser]

yus

[frosty ruin]

[tidal geyser]

but would be fun to try and see if it could help with socket repair as in bending pins

[frosty ruin]

Big profit incoming

[tidal geyser]

i have like 150$ in my bank rn

[frosty ruin]

Some microscopes start at 75$ but idk about the quality

[ivory mountain]

why u use tg shield just to apply thermal paste

[frosty ruin]

I removed the coating

[tidal geyser]

yeeeaa

i also need a thermal cam

probs that first

[frosty ruin]

These ones are hella expensive

[tidal geyser]

not micro with it is needed

seen some handheld ones for not the worst price

all i really need is to see hot from cold

[tired bear]

get a old cat phone
like s60/61

[tidal geyser]

decent quality could be nice tho

[tired bear]

those have quality thermal cameras built in

[tidal geyser]

hmmm

[frosty ruin]

1100$

[thin bloom]

I just found my pc's current board but I rather go with a micro atx since I don't want to keep removing the top case fans just to remove the board

[frosty ruin]

Microscopic image of am4 looks satisfying somehow

[viral kayak]

I think I’m gonna save until my birthday and get a 4070 maybe

[tidal geyser]

12th gen x1 carbon for 150 with a broken screen, yes or no

[tired bear]

yes

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-gif-19575284

fine addition to my cluster

[tall sandal]

damm wth my school pcs have an intel core ultra 7 265K

[tidal geyser]

welp ama have to say adios to my bank account

[tidal geyser]

since its a amazing cpu

[tall sandal]

crazy

I did not expect these pcs to be this good

and there are many of them in one area, its a computer lab

[tired bear]

how much ram do they have?

[tidal geyser]

i did it at the cost of my bank account

ama have to sell a shit ton of stuff now

[thin bloom]

I found a board someone is selling and it has a Ryzen 3 1200. Is that better than the i7 7700k and will i have bottleneck problems with the rx 470? I would look it up myself but I'm using Google right now to look at ebay

[frigid blade]

What GPU?

[tall sandal]

it has RTX 4060, altough this CPU can do better with a higher end GPU

[tidal geyser]

no the r3 is really not good

[frigid blade]

Bros school is rich

[tall sandal]

this cpu is a monster man

[tidal geyser]

i have a very strong feeling those computers are not meant for gaming

[tacit star]

How can I know what batch I have gotten

[tall sandal]

nah its a university

[tall sandal]

ofc, I do work on them. I just never noticed the specs

[thin bloom]

I guess I have to increase my rang then. I did with in 100 miles of my location

[tacit star]

Hint: I bought it 3 months ago

[somber zealot]

take that ram out and sell it fr

[tidal geyser]

im so poor now

[somber zealot]

they won’t notice if u take 16gb RAM out of every pc

[tall sandal]

lmaoo

I wish I had a pc like this

[frigid blade]

Someone will notice the speed difference in loading chrome

[tall sandal]

honestly I checked the price and its not bad

[frigid blade]

What frequency is the ram running at?

[tall sandal]

but I cant have a desktop, I must have a laptop

[somber zealot]

Why

[tall sandal]

it says speed

[tidal geyser]

i have 14$ to my name right now

[tall sandal]

cuz I travel, and no space on my uni dorm desk

[somber zealot]

Wait it’s ddr5??

[tidal geyser]

why would it not be?

[worldly scarab]

@tidal geyser iknow how u feel!

[somber zealot]

schcool pc

[worldly scarab]

I be getting wendys 5 for 5 m-f to save $$

[tall sandal]

nah its very high preformance

[thin bloom]

Okay is a Ryzen 5 1600 better than the i7 7700k

[somber zealot]

what do they do on it

[tall sandal]

its got an intel core ultra 265k

[tall sandal]

people do work, its overkill

basic things, python, CFD Ansys, software for engineering

[somber zealot]

how many pcs are there

[tall sandal]

many, like 30

[tulip sparrow]

Flashing the BIOS from within the BIOS seems to have done the trick for me

[somber zealot]

dang

[tall sandal]

woah wth

why so many?

[tidal geyser]

And a billion dolla

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/addition-to-mycollection-more-collection-gif-14095863

[tall sandal]

man I need to get my msi repasted, my laptop

[worldly scarab]

@frosty ruin what about snap.on stuff

[tall sandal]

how much can this help?

[tidal geyser]

yes

[frosty ruin]

[frosty ruin]

Context please

[gray sierra]

hbhiubnhoihoioin

[thin bloom]

I want to buy this but it's all the way in California. They want 100 bucks and shipping cost 8.59. Idk if I should contact them and see if I can do a lower price

[tidal geyser]

keep in mind you need a am4 backplate and cooler for it too

[thin bloom]

It has a Ryzen 5 1600 and comes with a cooler

[thin bloom]

I have a phantom spirit 120 se argb cooler

[worldly scarab]

@frosty ruin posted Bosch stuff what about snap on?

[tidal geyser]

that needs the am4 backplate

[thin bloom]

It supports amd and Intel. I think it has a am4 backplate I have to look

[tidal geyser]

it does not

the motherboard has the am4 backplate and that one does not but you can ask the seller if he has it

[thin bloom]

I relooked at the image and my coolers parts and book, I see what you are talking about now

[tall sandal]

What kind of PC could I buy for around 3000 to 4000£, I was planning on saving this for a laptop to buy maybe 10 months later. Still saving. But now I’m considering a desktop

A prebuilt PC

[tidal geyser]

maybe a 5090 pc with a 9800X3D

[thin bloom]

Do you think I can get the seller to agree on a lower price?

[tidal geyser]

if not 5080 and 9800X3D ez

[tidal geyser]

worth a try

[tulip sparrow]

AND VMWare is going the same route as VirtualBox did once Oracle took over. FUCK tthese stupid companies

[thin bloom]

I'm going to try and talk to them now

[tulip sparrow]

Is there any PROPER NON FUCKED OVER Vritualization software int he personal market any more?

[thin bloom]

And they llabeled as used so hope there is no problems with it

[tulip sparrow]

Switched from VBox over to VMWare but that got fucked over as well

[tired bear]

hyperv

or go straight to the sauce with kvm

[tidal geyser]

poggers

was not a x1 but a x13 still super nice laptop

[tired bear]

this is LCD and not oled right

[tidal geyser]

yus

[tired bear]

you could prob get a replacement screen

[tidal geyser]

a new screen is like 80$ or smn

[tired bear]

worth it

[tidal geyser]

not fully sure but like 150$ for a thing that costs like 800 is fun

i wonder if it might be as simple as a bad display cable

[tired bear]

only thing that i hate abt thinkpad is FN key

[tidal geyser]

same

[tulip sparrow]

Is that software I can download to run virtual machines or just a tech that the BIG boys use to run their VMSoftware?

[tidal geyser]

suck a massive pain for no reason

[thin bloom]

Should I dm the seller this?

[tidal geyser]

oooo das true dis one is actually good when it comes to cooling

[tired bear]

you can use it on windows pro or better or on windows server (more features there)

just turn it on in turn features on or off

these 2

[tulip sparrow]

Pretty sure those need to be active for "Virtualiztion" software to even work these days on Windows lol

[hollow grail]

how is this? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Zv4HVF
about the best you can get and it’s 3700 here’

[tidal geyser]

touch screen too for like 100$

[tired bear]

not for type 2 like virtualbox or vmware workstation

[tulip sparrow]

Didn't think they were actual peices of usable software to the normal person

[tidal geyser]

1.3KW psu?

[hollow grail]

sure

[tidal geyser]

why not a 9800X3D

[tulip sparrow]

Pretty sure both require Hyper-V tro be active now

[tidal geyser]

its so many times better

and a asrock board is a brave choice

[hollow grail]

i went with it precisely because it’sx hardly any better

[tired bear]

i just have basic setup to run some vm's, i created a external virtual switch and couple of vm's

[tulip sparrow]

As well as enabling virtualization in the BIOS

[tidal geyser]

well it is

[hollow grail]

oh maybe
i heard good things about asrock steel legend but maybe it’s unfit for a 5090 build

[tulip sparrow]

Is that Hyper V Manager built into Windows or a third party software?

[tired bear]

its installed when you check it here

[hollow grail]

oh wait 3% more performance may genuinely be worth 100 pounds so then sure

[tired bear]

"managment tools"

[tidal geyser]

3%??

[hollow grail]

sounds realistic and that’s pretty good

[tidal geyser]

where tf are you getting 3% from

[tidal geyser]

you need windows pro or better

[hollow grail]

goggle

[tulip sparrow]

@tired bear yeah I am on Pro

[tidal geyser]

you mean userbenchmark?

[hollow grail]

no

many sites on googgle but not that

[tidal geyser]

many sites is not 3%

[tired bear]

yep, it will work for you
server edition add some features like pcie passtrough but lots can be done without it

[tidal geyser]

even fkn UBM claims 6%

[tired bear]

98

kekw

[hollow grail]

i thought you dont trust them
but fine if you really believe it’s so much better than 3% better than 7800x3d, then i agree even more that it’s a good choice.

[left trellis]

Guys, do not install Kovaaak's onto your RAM or VRAM 😭 I did it and VRAM had a substantial decrease in FPS, with it going from about 900 -> 600 with 1% lows going from 350 -> 100. When I tried it with RAM FPS went from about 900 -> 800 with 1% lows going from 350 -> 110.

[vague glacier]

Oh shit. The Thinkpad I ordered from eBay shipped with 40 GB ram instead of the 32 the listing said it had

[left trellis]

I think I try valorant next

[hollow grail]

a fortnite thing?

[left trellis]

what?

[hollow grail]

nvm
what is kovaaks

[left trellis]

aim trainer / game

[tulip sparrow]

I need something that can handle Windows XP with proper Directx9c support @tired bear and vbox killed that

[tidal geyser]

and this is just a 4090 with no upscaling

[hollow grail]

oh yeah that’s what i thought before

[tidal geyser]

with older games

[hollow grail]

dam

so we both agrtee he should get 9800x3d instead

[drowsy saffron]

is this for 70cad a good deal

[tired bear]

you need gpu passthrough?

[tulip sparrow]

Maybe

[hollow grail]

yo it’s only 50 pounds more XD than the 7800x3d my bad

[tulip sparrow]

Vbox does it through WINE for example

[tidal geyser]

9800X3D cache on bottom

[tulip sparrow]

Or use to before removing it

[thin bloom]

It's seems now this board is done for. It looks like there heat gun or something contacted to the board. I was hoping resurrect the board but it seems now I can't

[hollow grail]

ok i replaced the link so it’s the right cpu now

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/what-did-you-do-polarity-gen-v-what-have-you-done-the-boys-gif-11467600482982540601

[tulip sparrow]

Being supported and actually working the way it should are vastly different

[tired bear]

hmm, i guess try it

[thin bloom]

That's what I was saying when I first saw the damage

[tidal geyser]

he broke off 2 pins got the socket replaced by a phone repair shop that had never done it before they fucked up hard and ye

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/big-head-silicon-valley-nod-nodding-gif-5747889

[tulip sparrow]

That is what you get for trying to get someone who has never done it

[tidal geyser]

this picture looks so good

[tired bear]

can i has tb

[ivory mountain]

24TB damn

[tidal geyser]

no thanks

[hollow grail]

holy memories
what are you going to remember with that

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-sparrow-smiles-johnny-depp-gif-3829357382943597812

nah i took it as im selling it

and yes i did a zero

[hollow grail]

dam on a hard drive is crazy
slower and more capacity 😭

[tidal geyser]

wanted to do a NVME NAS in the summer

[thin bloom]

From me looking at it again those lines feed to the ram slots

[tidal geyser]

wish i did

[grizzled frost]

now do a random write of 1/0s to really get rid of all the data

[tidal geyser]

if they want it idc

only a government would have a chance of getting any data off it

[tired bear]

its all ISO'S
what a monster

[tidal geyser]

tbf i was actually torrenting a ton of ISOs

some mint here some cachyos there and such

[rigid fjord]

without removing the ihs you'd never know

[thin bloom]

I hate I have to now reprogram my case fans but I still probably had to reprogram them anyway way since I got that new cooler they were adjusted to turn on and off with the stock intel cooler and not the phantom spirit 120 se

[wheat torrent]

it looked like it was done for a while ago

[tulip sparrow]

@tired bear the first one listed is one of the MAIN issues for me since I run older Windows mainly XP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VirtualBox#Limitations

Orcale really screwed the software up

[tired bear]

run version 6.0 lol

[tulip sparrow]

Pretty sure I already do if not V5

[signal laurel]

Okay, this is going to be somewhat long but gonna go into all details.

SPECS:

Motherboard: Gigabyte B660 Gaming X

CPU: i5-12400f

PSU: Corsair rm750x

RAM: 2x8GB Teamforce DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU(Old): Gigabyte 1660ti

GPU(New): ASUS RTX 5060 OC 8GB

WHATS HAPPENED

Treated myself to a new GPU for Christmas and went to install it tonight. I’d like to say I know my way around a PC and what to do.

Booted up the PC normally, ran DDU and then removed the old GPU. I installed the new 5060 using the 6+2PCIE cable, (cable had to be turned upside down to work) and then turned on my PC to fans and RGB coming on but no display. Checked and monitors are plugged into the GPU. The motherboard VGA debug light was on. Fiddled around and tried it a couple more times to no avail.

Eventually replaced the 5060 with my 1660ti and the system booted as normal. So my first guess is an issue with my PSU/PCIE cables which shouldn’t be the case.

Messed around some more and decided to try reseating my RAM. Did so and now the PC would turn on with no RGB lights and the CPU/VRAM motherboard debug lights are flashing. I’d handled the sticks with care so this was a surprise. No matter what I tried doing I couldn’t seem to fix the issue until I put STICK1 in RAM slot A2. If I put STICK2 or STICK1 any other place the debug lights would come on and no RGB. Very odd. This happened both with the 1660ti and 5060 installed.

Now I’m stuck, I can’t even play games now on just the 1660ti as I can’t boot unless using the specific stick for 8GB of ram. Really was excited to use my brand new 5060 today as it’s something I’ve been saving for a while. Would love some assistance as to how to proceed..

[tidal geyser]

jesus chirst

[signal laurel]

Gets the message across

[tidal geyser]

rip

[buoyant bridge]

nope. All other VM softwares for windows afaik are Type 2, Hyper V is Type 1 and works differently, you're probably thinking of VT-D and Virtualization

[ivory mountain]

real

[twin grove]

anyone here use an amd gpu and a vive I am having issues getting it working atm

[buoyant bridge]

I am so fucking dyslexic

[waxen shell]

Ok

[somber zealot]

Ok

[buoyant bridge]

Works fine for me. Iirc there's a setting you gotta turn on in AMD Adrenaline settings

[tidal geyser]

no

[twin grove]

did that but it only is working if I bypass the hub atm and don't want to really because I need the extra cable length if I can get it

[gleaming rose]

good 850w PSUs?

[buoyant bridge]

I literally just read one of ur messages as it's not an X1 or X13 and asked if it's a T14s

[buoyant bridge]

VR headsets aren't supposed to be connected through hubs except included ones

[thin bloom]

I'm thinking of contacting that company that's in Ohio and let them replace the socket on the other board i have since they specialize in that stuff but that board has probably a bad southbridge chip. I know I be spending over probably 200 bucks. I might ship it or when I get my truck on the road I drive to there shop

[twin grove]

it is the included one it worked on my 3060 a few hours ago and I switched gpus because I just got a 7700xt and it isn't working through the hub atm

[buoyant bridge]

Did you DDU the old driver?

[twin grove]

yes

[frigid blade]

Did a business install today with those Internet over powerline adapters

[tidal geyser]

Seems right

[frigid blade]

They’re pretty neat for what they are

Kinda slow on older power lines but it works

[buoyant bridge]

I'm not sure what business would even tolerate those

[frigid blade]

15Mbps over a few hundred feet

[buoyant bridge]

was there not drop celling or smth?

[buoyant bridge]

Did you check the phases?

they work best on the same phase

[frigid blade]

Too many man hours

[tulip sparrow]

Many type-2s leverage the type-1 hyper-v on windows

[buoyant bridge]

wdym drop ceiling is like the quickest to work in period

[frigid blade]

Gotta run from the bar up the column through the ceiling

[buoyant bridge]

And? That's why they're paying someone to do it

Ive used them before temporarily in my businesses but anything permanent gets wired

[frigid blade]

It was a favor not a huge business

[buoyant bridge]

also again check ur phases when connecting them, if it's 120V you can move breakers around in the panel to get the circuits on the same phase

[buoyant bridge]

Ah

[frigid blade]

Sorry I had trouble remembering the word for favor for some reason

Took me a sec

[frigid blade]

I wouldn’t know enough to be able to do this

I was hoping to plug into an outlet right next to the breaker on the router side but sadly not able to

[buoyant bridge]

you literally just take 6 screws out and pull the breaker out and swap it with another breaker on the same phase (and ofc shut the main off)

[frigid blade]

If I knew this before I’d do it is what I meant

[buoyant bridge]

Ah

Yeah every time I've used them they drop from gigabit to like 8-20mbit when they're on a different phase

[frigid blade]

I’m just starting out doing some Internet troubleshooting and whatnot for local places

[buoyant bridge]

If you get into business networking I'd definitely learn the basics of commercial electrical since they intertwine quite a bit

[frigid blade]

Yah starting a business with my father soon instead of this

I know the networking, he knows electricity, rn does carpentry

Will be fun

He saw what they make for the low voltage stuff and wants to do less hard labor

[buoyant bridge]

Just about every time I added network APs into businesses back when I was a contractor it'd involve running MC cable back to a junction box 10-15 ft away

Since they're best placed in the drop ceiling which usually doesn't have outlets in it

But you'll have junctions with a unswitched hot, neutral, and ground at minimum like every 15 ft (also has the switched hot for the lights)

[abstract wigeon]

cheers

[buoyant bridge]

Also get a good set of spade bits and a decent quality impact driver if you start running network cable

spade bits drill through rafters and wall studs the best in my experience and a impact driver won't twist your wrist like a drill will

[frigid blade]

Did you enjoy being a contractor?

[tidal geyser]

omg there is a x13 gen 2 for 70$ tbf no worke but me wanna get those , im sad

[thin bloom]

I contacted that shop now I wait

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-little-rascals-black-and-white-tv-gif-7351141631919267269

[buoyant bridge]

yeah but I prefer working on my own shit

because I can do it in the most logical way lol

instead of sticking armor clad fiber in a ceiling and coming back a week later (paid ofc) to remove it because it's not plenum and inspectors won't pass it

[frigid blade]

Ah, before you had to make the boss happy?

[buoyant bridge]

well I worked for myself but the customer is the boss so

[frigid blade]

Yah that’s what I meant

Boss, customer, client whatever

That’s basically what we’ll be doing but for homes

But I’m talking multi-million dollar homes being built, I don’t want to work on cheaper houses

You have the open walls and can run it how you please, after electrical and plumbing is done

[buoyant bridge]

you also have to follow like a gazillion different rules on new homes

[frigid blade]

My father knows a guy who used to work for someone and started his own low voltage business

Says it pays extremely well

[buoyant bridge]

old work pays better with the right people and is easier imo

there's not nearly as many particulars with old work

[tidal geyser]

mate its a fkn 30$ board

[buoyant bridge]

For example with cat cable (Ethernet) in new construction is actually borderline impossible to avoid some form of interference somewhere while in old work since the cable can just hang freely in the wall and doesn't need to be fixed it's not nearly as bad

[tidal geyser]

microcenter had a am5 board some ddr5 ram and a 7600x for like 250$

[tired bear]

fuuuuccckk yea baby

[tidal geyser]

wait it even went down to like 230 i think at some point

[tidal geyser]

i finished the game mostly after a week

[frigid blade]

We ran in conduit in our home for all the ethernet, it didn’t count as a renovation because the roof and interior was all gone (literally just the exterior walls were left, maybe it differs with area

[buoyant bridge]

if you get into new work oh my god invest in a cable stapler as soon as you can fyi

[thin bloom]

I'm thinking of trying to salvage parts from my old board that the shop fucked up. I don't know if I can take the southbridge from my big board and put it on the micro atx board that has a few bent and probably broken pins. I have to do some research

[buoyant bridge]

hand nailing those staples is such a pain in the ass

[tired bear]

rusted gears and fucking rusted shut medical

[tidal geyser]

so hard to get

[frigid blade]

I can’t wait for NWR to try to repair that ram

I’ve watched 10 of his videos since Martin told me about him yesterday

[tidal geyser]

almost nobody wants to even try and swap bridges due to the risk and having to reprogramm the bios

[buoyant bridge]

I got a Klien 450-100 even though it's a manual one it saves litteral hours fastening low voltage cable

[tacit star]

Anyway it doesn't matter, I could choose between 5700X and 5800X and I thoughtfully chose 5800X despite knowing its design flaw

Being hotter and using more power isn't a problem for me, as long as it doesn't reach 90. And it has never done

[tired bear]

its so stupid that you need lvl3 bench to craft rare guns

aka renegade

[thorny saddle]

renegade is op tho

[swift stream]

what are these ads youtube pushes out 😔 🥀

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/goon-alert-gif-14317033356293330298

[twin grove]

OK so if I bypass the linkbox for my vive it works but if I don't it doesn't... But it worked just fine with it on my 3060

VR troubleshooting sucks sometimes

[tidal geyser]

tbf the vive is not a modern vr headset

[frigid blade]

Click the 3 dots and check why you’re seeing

It’s either because of the time and location or because of what you watch

[twin grove]

Still it's all I have and a new headset is expensive and I just spend money on a new gpu so ideally I don't have to get a new headset too since I don't have the money for it

[tidal geyser]

sadly vr is just really fkn advanced

[frigid blade]

I finally got my Apple developer cert

[compact narwhal]

hey guys! i'm looking to get the cheapest egpu setup possible for my dell xps 9305 (i7-11th, 16gb ddr4, 1440p@120 display) and i need some advice since i never really had any experience with actual desktop computer parts. first of all, does the dock matter that much? i found some cheap 80€ ones on aliexpress with tb3/4 that seem decent.. also, what gpu for this use case do you recommend? (fortnite on mid at 1440@120, and other lighter games, less than 200€ used) i found that the RX 6600 XT could be a good option, but again, i've never really researched pc components so idk. thanks o7

[frigid blade]

No more 7 day side loaded app refreshes

[twin grove]

still you would think the older thing would just work still especially since it was one of the first vr headsets and kinda what valve based a lot of their stuff on at least with the tracking

[spark path]

should I buy this?

[narrow coyote]

Do you think it's worth upgrading to a DDR4 PC today. I have a intel i5 7600k + GTX760 + 1x16GB DDR4. So trying to decide if i should buy a new MB+ AMD CPU + 1 more stick of DDR4 16GB. Would get me 32GB of ram by reusing the current stick. I don't play much games (obviously with a GTX760) I would probably also get a B580 to replace the GTX760

[thin bloom]

I might be getting that board with the ryzen 5

[twin grove]

there are so many little things that the 32GB upgrade I made to my system has helped with but I also have a 5700x3d and untill today a 3060. stuff from minecraft to video encode on my digital backups of media and stuff its a nice to have if you can get it for a good pric

[tidal geyser]

ai is so good right

[thin bloom]

When ever I get my pc back up and running I probably have to clean all the fans on it

[twin grove]

I know I went to click a link to bring up how to pair a VR headset with my gpu and it just sent me to the Ai page on amd's website because that's what that shoild bring me to

[grizzled frost]

speaking of vr, i need to keep trying to beat my Beat saber PR

[narrow coyote]

@twin grove
The main issues are im looking to solve are

• Upgrade now to try avoid expensive stuff in 2026/27
• I cant run win 11 atm due to no TPM V2.
• I cant run the Samsung 49" ultrawide at more than 75hz, or in HDR atm

[spark path]

@tidal geyser should I buy this to benchmark?

[grizzled frost]

yes

[spark path]

it's on discount

[grizzled frost]

cool, buy it

[somber zealot]

how much

[spark path]

75%

[somber zealot]

how much is it

[spark path]

like 8$

[somber zealot]

woah

that’s still a lot

buy it and return it after benchmarking for an hour

[grizzled frost]

it's a one time purchase for something you use repeatedly

[twin grove]

I would focus on gpu first then watch your ram usage while you use your pc if you are hitting 100% ram usage or right at it I would then get the upgrade

[narrow coyote]

without resizable bar upgrading the GPU only is probably not an option

[twin grove]

also maybe a used cpu mobo combo to get tpm 2 but you don't really need windows 11 untill 2032 since you can get windows 10ltsc like I did and just not upgrade to windows 11

[tidal ice]

Got that 64gb 5600mt kit for 400$, not the best but at least something 🙂

[spark path]

so long damn

[thin bloom]

At least I kept the sticker that covers the bottom of the cooler so it doesn't get dirty

[spark path]

I got 32GB kit for 400$ 😭😭😭

[tidal geyser]

wait 5600MT dominators?

[fast magnet]

will ram ever be affordable again?

[spark path]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-robot-gif-26772282

[thin bloom]

They said they have the amd backplate but forgot to include into the photos

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-robot-gif-26772282

[formal sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-hood-fortune-teller-future-prediction-gif-25704815

[thin bloom]

Why you say no?

[twin grove]

just get a gpu that doesn't need it like the b580 does or one that doen't support it anyways. something like a 1080 can be bought for $100-$150 ive seen the titan from that generation go for as little as $200

[tidal ice]

It's used and slightly older

[spark path]

if you keep that on I will find you

[tidal geyser]

kirashi i got another laptop

[narrow coyote]

ram will likely get cheap again after the AI bubble pops when lots of factories are spewing out ram with nowhere for it to go. Especially if new factories have been built to supply a demand that falls out of the market.

[fast magnet]

how dated is my build? 7900xt, Ryzen 5800x, 700 watt PSU, 32 gb ddr4 2600 speed, I don't remember what the mb is

cause this ram and gpu stuff makin me feel old

[somber zealot]

pretty nice!

[twin grove]

It's fine I'd recomend better psu and faster ram but that's only a single generation old it's not bad at all

[tidal geyser]

no

[thin bloom]

I removed it once when I installed it onto my old board. I put it back on so it doesn't get dirty while not in use plus I do have the rads plastic bag covering it

[tidal geyser]

the reason its so spensive is that the current ram factories have changed to HBM and das not easy to use for consumers

[narrow coyote]

I do wonder if all the push for massive amounts of HBM ram for AI will lower it's production costs and eventually it will take over from DDR for system ram.

[tidal geyser]

no way

[somber zealot]

we all should just go together and build our own ram factory

can’t be that hard, right..?

[spark path]

oh ok I thought you keeping it while using the cooler

[tidal ice]

No, companys make more money from b2b and will again keep increased prices for end customers

[thin bloom]

I'm not that stupid to do that

[twin grove]

We've already had supposed replacements for ddr it just doesn't happen. Qdr existed for a bit but only for 1 real generation and I'm vram we had hbm on amd gpus on and off for a while now

[narrow coyote]

Another thing that could happen.
A totally different type of ram (something made in factories that cannot make HBM due to totally different technology) could suddenly become cost effective to use as system ram and we could transition from DDR to that.

[twin grove]

We would need a lithography machine capible of making ddr5 chips which will be about $300M then after that making the chip package or the resin casing and stuff for it which will be a few more million plus actual factory and clean room so probably $500m-$600m ish I'd think

[formal sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[tidal geyser]

want to add more to the pyramid

[fast girder]

Bought a server today (if you saw my messages here in the last week or so) I get this in first boot, I thought there was supposed to be Ubuntu installed but I'm not sure why I get this error on boot

[somber zealot]

yeah not that hard, you’ll bring the money and I’ll bring workforce

[tidal geyser]

something something network boot probs

[tidal geyser]

its fine

also no wait, why tf would there be a OS on it still

[fast girder]

Because before I bought it, the seller at the datacenter asked what I would like to have installed before I purchase it

[tidal geyser]

funky

[tulip sparrow]

did you check if there was a drive in there and if its showing up in BIOS as bootable?

[tidal geyser]

go into the the bios i wanna see what is bootable

[tulip sparrow]

Never really delt with "server" hardware so I can't really go beyond generic fixes at the moment

[fast girder]

Yea I mean, I THOUGHT that on software level, it would be the same as a regular computer and at worse case will just prompt that there is no drive/OS to boot to. But I get this

[tidal geyser]

bios show me

[vital marlin]

is it worth trying to revive an old 3rd/4th gen intel computer to hook to my tv for watching streaming services and youtube?

[tidal geyser]

if you're not doing anything why not

[tulip sparrow]

I have an old i5 3570k doing just that

MIGHT need a newer GPU tho

[tidal geyser]

i do not have a tv 🙁

[tulip sparrow]

I plan on swapping the old i5 3570k for a MiniPC+DAS(AS NAS) setup down the road tho

[tulip sparrow]

So yes it is worth it honestly

Even handles 1080p gaming with its 2060 Super now

[vital marlin]

this would only have iGPU

[narrow coyote]

consider if you want any advanced features on your media TV, like frame interpolation or ai upscale and what hardware that might require. Usually a min generation of gpu.

[tulip sparrow]

MIGHT newer a GPU with HDMI for output and newer codec support

[tidal geyser]

5090 :3

[narrow coyote]

heh

[somber zealot]

how much would you guys say a pc prebuilt bought like 7 years ago would sell for? It got a 2060, don’t know any more yet

[tidal geyser]

nah even a 2060 should work plenty

[tulip sparrow]

@vital marlin is what I was getting at just a lowend GPU like GT220 or 710 would be enough for playback

[somber zealot]

haven’t looked into it

[tidal geyser]

hwinfo

[tidal geyser]

he forgot to install the OS

[tulip sparrow]

@tidal geyser I am well aware that the i5 3570k is my main bottleneck with my 2060 Super LOL

[vital marlin]

i think for the cost of up grades it might be more worth getting a Beelink SER5 for $400

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/apka-attack-cat-attack-gif-13439615

[tulip sparrow]

Pretty sure the 1030 is a BEAST of a Media playback card

[tidal geyser]

tbh anything with a av1 decoder is smartest now a days

[kindred halo]

I am getting an electric screwdriver set for my birthday :D

[tulip sparrow]

Other then GPU what upgrades would need to be done on that @vital marlin ?

[kindred halo]

What even constitutes a good media playback card

[vital marlin]

it has no storage

[narrow coyote]

also for media PC, consider fan noise.

[tulip sparrow]

Cheap sata 2.5" ssd

[tidal geyser]

iv seen people selling 64GB SSDs

[tulip sparrow]

Pretty sure 2.5" ssds are still being made and sold thanks to cases like this

AKA NOT everything has a m.2 slot for ssd

[tidal geyser]

im sad about the amount of m-sata NUCs i have

[glossy veldt]

hi geniouses

[tulip sparrow]

My i5 3570k has a msata port onboard LOL

[glossy veldt]

is 67 bucks a good deal for one 16gb kingston 3200

[tulip sparrow]

mainly for Intel "SMART" response aka CACHE drive

@glossy veldt 1 or 2 sticks?

[glossy veldt]

1 stick

[tidal geyser]

xd

[tulip sparrow]

Was it Smart or Fast response?

[rigid fjord]

an intel a310 if you can find one

[tidal geyser]

but yea now a days its somehow a ok price

[tulip sparrow]

Great codec suuport on both decode and encode sides honestly

[glossy veldt]

woul buy it but i'd be left with what 20 bucks left for the entire month of january

[vital marlin]

500gb to match the beelink and a gpu makes this upgrade 2/3rd the cost of the beelink

[tulip sparrow]

2.5" SSD and a cheap Mediacentric GPU shouldn't be anywhere near that cost

Sub $100 for both parts I would think at this point?

[glossy veldt]

bro someone's selling 4 kingston furys 32gb in total for 80 bucks

[kindred halo]

Has NVDEC gen 3, but no NVENC, according to TPU atleast

[glossy veldt]

if only i had a motherboard with 4 ram slots

[vital marlin]

welcome to canada

[kindred halo]

1030 + 1TB SATA should be around ~$70-80 at most

[tulip sparrow]

I do own one and all 4 are populated for 32GB aka 4x8GB ddr 3200mhz sticks

[craggy cove]

when you sell something in 4 hours and start wondering if you sold it for too cheap

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-monkey-gif-17161736773310556283

[tulip sparrow]

exactlly

[iron glen]

blow the money on smth so you have no regrets

[tulip sparrow]

AKA nowhere near the the price of a solid MiniPC

[iron glen]

wsp sim, quick question
how does one obtain a proxy?

cz i want roblox voice chat
but i do not want to give roblox my ID

[craggy cove]

i wanna tell him "oops its broken also i found another one but its 70€ now"

[craggy cove]

hesburger

[iron glen]

🤤

[kindred halo]

... I just checked
100 USD on Newegg for a SATA drive

[tulip sparrow]

Use a Temp mail system?

[kindred halo]

Oh wow :(

[tulip sparrow]

Pretty sure the cheapest "turing" based nvenc card is the 1650

[kindred halo]

I forgot that SATA SSDs are also drives that're affected by AI
Apparently SATAs didn't use 3D NAND chips in my mind till now

[kindred halo]

What about the 1630?

[tulip sparrow]

doesn't exist

[kindred halo]

.. Yes it does?

[kindred halo]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-1630.c3916

5th gen NVENC
4th gen NVDEC

[boreal tiger]

Does anyone know how a computer works?

[glossy veldt]

what the hell is a 1630

[formal sonnet]

https://www.explainthatstuff.com/howcomputerswork.html

[spark path]

If am running 3 monitors. And I launch desktop overlay host from rtss.
The frame rate it shows from what monitor is it taken?

[kindred halo]

NVidia's response to the scalping and lack of 20 series cards

[tulip sparrow]

My guess would be primary monitor

[spark path]

I hope so too

[kindred halo]

A cheap GPU worse than the 1050 Ti

[glossy veldt]

dont diss the 1050 ti

[kindred halo]

I am not, god forbid

[glossy veldt]

my classmate dominates me on fortnite with that card

[tulip sparrow]

Those "cheap" GPUS are great as "Test" cards and mediacenter cards

[glossy veldt]

speaking of fortnite

[tulip sparrow]

I have a GT220 I use for testing purposes

[glossy veldt]

i am SO tired of the STUTTERING

[kindred halo]

That unit la graphics processor drove me through 2018 AAA titles

[tidal geyser]

no

[tidal geyser]

1 and 0

[glossy veldt]

just by being alive my computer is using 50% of it's ram

[craggy cove]

what if my price is okay but they just need it

[kindred halo]

.. Elaborate on your question?

[tulip sparrow]

Take out a GPU and slap in my less then 75watt card to test the slot of a PC and video output

[craggy cove]

whatever i bought it for 40€ + 4€ shipping anyway

[kindred halo]

How much of it do you have

[boreal tiger]

Yeah sure can you tell me how RAM and processor communicates?

[tidal geyser]

good

[glossy veldt]

8...

[tidal geyser]

1 and 0

[boreal tiger]

How ram and processor communicates?

[boreal tiger]

Not enough unfortunately

[tidal geyser]

i just sold a b350 for 70$ and i know for a fact that is a ripoff even tho i sold it under like 15min

[tulip sparrow]

Those "cheap" lowend GPUS have a few use cases just NOT as "GAMING" cards unless you are wanting to run old 10 year+ games on it or something

[glossy veldt]

that's like... that's engineer levels of knowledge

[craggy cove]

holy ripoff

[tidal geyser]

i lied btw

[craggy cove]

yeah youre right

[limpid current]

what's your preferred way of acquiring a windows license?

[kindred halo]

The RAM grabs data from your storage drive

That data is held there for the CPU to grab into its L1, L2, and L3 Caches (extremely fast, small sized storage directly on the CPU)

[boreal tiger]

See we don't know sh#t about computers

[glossy veldt]

don't use kmspico and get a crypto miner on your computer

[tidal geyser]

pcie 5 is 1s 2s 3s and 4s kinda

[formal sonnet]

https://www.microsoft.com/d/windows-11-home/dg7gmgf0krt0/0008

[glossy veldt]

no... you don't even know what hexadecimal is, even less about the intricate designs on a pcb that lead to signal integrity

[limpid current]

key stores are probably not trusthworthy, correct?

[boreal tiger]

Ok 👌 but how is it displayed how is stuff animated?

[tidal geyser]

o pleas ask the mod for gray market keys pleas

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/kris-aquino-gameknb-correct-pinoy-gif-19934494

[left trellis]

Guy offered a 3080 TI and 250 usd for my 7900xt

I dont know if he thinks its the xtx, I said xt, but its wild out here

[limpid current]

thanks

[kindred halo]

I genuinely want to get a PCIe port only power GPU just for testing

It'd be such a huge time saver in my future endeavours