tech-chat-1

[tidal geyser]

nop

also why

[tacit star]

It can but it costs twice as much

[winter lance]

No he said I didn’t have enough feedback on my acc

[tacit star]

I have an M.2 for Windows. I am looking for another drive for games

[junior merlin]

Is the 12 pin connector still a fire hazard on lower end cards?

[tidal geyser]

wut

what country

[tired bear]

not really , only 80 and 90 series

[tidal geyser]

its what he said but he read your first message as that and instead of being rude he said that

[tacit star]

Well I can get 2TB A55 for €100 or $120 brand new

[junior merlin]

What about 5070ti?

[tidal geyser]

never has been

[tacit star]

M.2 NVMe costs twice as much

[winter lance]

Oh well

[tidal geyser]

not low end but should be fine

[tidal geyser]

what country

[winter lance]

The hunt for the cheapest titan continues

[tacit star]

Bulgaria

[winter lance]

I been there super nice

[tacit star]

I checked Amazon.de/fr/it too

[tired bear]

get them from germany

[tacit star]

There aren't cheap SSDs in amazon.de

[tidal geyser]

i bet old stock

[junior merlin]

Mid range, I guess?

[tidal geyser]

yes

[hallow heart]

is this ebay?

[winter lance]

yes

[hallow heart]

crazy

[tacit star]

Old stock, yes. Anyway, is this a deal?

I mean of course it is considering the prices now, but is this SSD garbage?

Silicon Power A55. I will use it for games

[tidal geyser]

as long as its a SSD i guess

and when its that low in these times meh why not

[tired bear]

i have it in my home assistant server

[tacit star]

Aren't Seagate/Kingston/Samsung heaps better tho?

Sadly according to what I read, prices will be that high (if not worse) the whole 2026 too

[tidal geyser]

seagate is most known for HDDs

[tidal geyser]

o trust me they will be way worse

[hexed tapir]

This is why I hate selling things online y'all are always asking to lower my price I want to sell it for

[tired bear]

what matters is if it has DRAM and what flash type it is

[winter lance]

Sob

[tacit star]

No DRAM

3D NAND flash

[tired bear]

is it tlc or qlc

[tidal geyser]

bet he has in the description already the lowest so no asking for lower

[tidal geyser]

well for a sata ssd

[tacit star]

Says TLC

[tidal geyser]

das gud

QLC no dram sata is sad

TLC no dram is usable

[tacit star]

TLC tho no DRAM

[tired bear]

its fine then for a game drive, wouldnt use it for windows drive tho

[tidal geyser]

probs would not even notice much

just not having to physically move something to be able to read data is going to create worlds of difference

[tacit star]

1 500 000 hours. Isn't this not as good?

[tidal geyser]

fake

[tired bear]

you notice it
nvme dramless can use system ram (HMB) so they are significantly better

[tidal geyser]

that is true

[tired bear]

what matters is TBW

[tidal geyser]

but yea no, no real reason to use sata anymore

[junior merlin]

Facts

[tacit star]

I use KC3000 (DRAM) for my Windows, but it doesn't matter. I don't want to install my games there, even if it is a 1TB drive

[tacit star]

Well NVMes cost twice as much as that SATA A55

[tidal geyser]

yes yes you know why

before this NVMEs were about the price or lower than sata

[hallow heart]

so cuz of ai the prices inscreased?

[tacit star]

I have two M.2 slots, tho the second is 3.0

[tidal geyser]

a lot

[tired bear]

yes

[hallow heart]

is 100 for a 2tb ssd alot hten?

[tidal geyser]

xd wrong reply martin

[tired bear]

xd

[tidal geyser]

das the before ai price

[hallow heart]

thats what i paid for my sata drive

[tacit star]

Anyway, would installing a second M.2 hinder the main NVMe, the GPU, or anything PCIe?

[tacit star]

Well I think it is a fair price. I wouldn't spend 200 on 2TB tho

[tired bear]

lol i just bought two 256gb ones for cheap before recent ai price hike
just for booting proxmox tho

[hallow heart]

bro i saw some new nvme 2tb going for 180-220

240 even

[tidal geyser]

i just bouhgt like 8 new cases and tons of hardware but i need a hell of a lot more ram and NVMEs 🙁

[tacit star]

Well that's heaps

[woven wigeon]

Did not know how bad can laptop speakers be compared to a Logitech 2.1 speakers

[tacit star]

I wouldn't spend that much on anything different than a Samsung

[tired bear]

i have bunch of nvme 256gb drives

[hallow heart]

which is the logitech speakers

[tidal geyser]

i swear i had a few but im not sure where they really are

[tacit star]

Just sold my 2x8/3200/16 G.Skill Aegis

[woven wigeon]

The "headphones"

[tired bear]

proxmox boot drives

[tidal geyser]

its gonna be worth a whole hell of a lot more

[hallow heart]

oh yea those sound way better

how much u pay for those?

[woven wigeon]

Its in quotations cuz my laptop think any 3.5 mm device is headphones

[tidal geyser]

my ML350 gets angry if stuff is not in caddys

[woven wigeon]

60 euros

[hallow heart]

lmao

[woven wigeon]

Its sadly overpriced

[tired bear]

just print caddies

i can give you files

[tidal geyser]

its the fancy ones with lights i already did print em

[hallow heart]

not terrible

[stray portal]

Which one is better? A full gigabyte pc or a full asus pc? I personally prefer gigabyte but what do yall think

[woven wigeon]

I've seen it cost 40 to 60 euros

[tidal geyser]

but you need the electronics so it does not get angry

[hallow heart]

im just not a big audio guy, i have hyperx cloud 3 wireless and thats enough for me

[rigid fjord]

@tidal geyseryour 3d printer, the room that it's in, is it at a temp of around 24-26c?

[hallow heart]

the laptop? ofc bro

[tired bear]

hmm

[tidal geyser]

non of the above

[woven wigeon]

Laptop?????

[tidal geyser]

its in my closet and eh yea kinda

[woven wigeon]

I paid a whopping 1099 euros for a 24 gb ram (dual cannel ) and a 13th Gen i7 and a laptop 4060

[stray portal]

why not😡 do u think brand loyalty is a scam???😡 😡

[tidal geyser]

no such thing

[misty mauve]

what the helly

[hallow heart]

damn thats not bad at all actually

i paid around the same for 12th gen i7, 16gb ram and 3050

[tidal geyser]

2 years ago right?

[hallow heart]

laptop

[woven wigeon]

2024 03 08 pricing

[stray portal]

3050 laptop is the 4gb one 😟

[glossy veldt]

i paid 900 for a bomboclat gt 730 and 10th gen i3 four years ago

[hallow heart]

yeh...

[rigid fjord]

get a digital hydrometer, because if that's at 24-246c but more dry than humid, you might not need a filament dryer so much

[tidal geyser]

eh its fine

[tired bear]

@tidal geyser mmm

[hallow heart]

no

[tired bear]

pricy

[tidal geyser]

i know but im too cheap to buy one

[woven wigeon]

That listing is down and the laptop is now with a 5060 and 100 euro more expensive

[stray portal]

THEY shouldve called it the 3030 and the 6gb one the 3040

[glossy veldt]

id buy that running with cash on my hands

[tidal geyser]

look at the TBW ratings on those its so funny

[hallow heart]

fr bruh

[tired bear]

yea fuck that

[tidal geyser]

same cpu+

[rigid fjord]

hydrometers be cheap though

[tidal geyser]

already have many

[hallow heart]

thank god i have desktop 3060ti now. its a mid ranged card but to me its the best pc gaming ive ever owned

[tacit star]

I sold it for €65 or $80

[tidal geyser]

my 96GB kit i got for 100 is only going up in price

[tacit star]

Crucial BX500 is 50% more expensive than A55. What about this?

[hallow heart]

bro paid 1$ per gb

[tidal geyser]

bx is worse

a lot worse

[rigid fjord]

not worth it over an mx500

[tacit star]

I've heard this before

[tired bear]

wb this

[tacit star]

Afaik MX is discontinued

[hallow heart]

bro please look on facebook marketplace for one

buying new is just not worth the money

[rigid fjord]

tbh, can still pick them up from shops, though may be old stock

[glossy veldt]

if i saved for 4 or 5 months non stop i might afford that

[tidal geyser]

this makes me sad, i rememba when dees were closer to 100

[tired bear]

lol i dont need it atm

[tacit star]

SP A55 is really the only SSD at a reasonable price and I am not sure whether to take it or wait
wait means an entire year in best case, doesn't it?

[hallow heart]

good

[rigid fjord]

never buy a ssd secondhand

[tacit star]

I can't find any. Not even at a bad price. Out of stock

[hallow heart]

i did mine but it was still in the box

[rigid fjord]

country?

[hallow heart]

why tho

[tacit star]

Bulgaria

[tidal geyser]

not long until the price will go up again

[glossy veldt]

FUH NAW

[stray portal]

I wish i was rich so i could build infinite pcs then sell them i like building them so much

[rigid fjord]

ah bugger

[tired bear]

exchanging for a lambo, i know what i got

[woven wigeon]

I've seen even the same laptop with a 50 SEVENTY FOR ONLY 100 DOLLAR MORE THAN THE 5060 ONE DUDE TS A STEAL

[tidal geyser]

ddr4 smh

[glossy veldt]

330 euros for the 2tb mp600

[glossy veldt]

i knew i should've begged you harder for that ram

[woven wigeon]

Still more useful than ddr3 am I right?

[glossy veldt]

im still on ddr4... 1600...

[rigid fjord]

can end up buying either a dead one, one that's fucked with a virus on, or one that's faulty but been zero summed into looking like it's good still

[tidal geyser]

i would not even consider anything under zen 4 or core ultra in a laptop for over 500$

[tacit star]

Can you rate A55 from 1 (e-waste) to 10 (excellent)?

[hallow heart]

yeah thats true, i did consider all that

[rigid fjord]

with the current prices, yeah it could be doable

[tidal geyser]

its cheap where you live get it

[woven wigeon]

But liek 90 procent of the time you dont need a super mega beefy cpu its mainly only gpu y need for gaming

[tacit star]

I am worried because a buddy said it is an absolute pile of garbage

[tidal geyser]

its a laptop

[woven wigeon]

Samsung a 55?

[woven wigeon]

Yeah?

[tidal geyser]

intels 200v cpus are like 4 good cores and that is it

[tacit star]

Silicon Power A55

[tidal geyser]

lap top

[glossy veldt]

i thought the same wtf a samsung a55

[tidal geyser]

its a ssd

[rigid fjord]

a 2 but if it's the only thing available, it's better than a kick in the nuts

[woven wigeon]

My mom uses one

[tacit star]

So it is as bad ig, even if you use it for games only?

[glossy veldt]

my mom beats your mom she uses a moto g20

[tacit star]

Where is the worst Kingston then? 5/10?

[tidal geyser]

you will not notice that vs a pcie ssd in games

[proven shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-up-hold-up-meme-fallout-meme-gif-3737350009659669155

[tacit star]

When will I?

[woven wigeon]

My grandma used to used a Samsung galaxy s2 back in the day

[tidal geyser]

if it was a OS drive

[glossy veldt]

my grandma beats your grandma she uses a galaxy j7

[tacit star]

Lol no

[glossy veldt]

real men use a 5400 rpm boot drive

[tacit star]

KC3000 1TB is my OS drive

[tidal geyser]

yes we know

[rigid fjord]

it should be ok for this, but hardware wise for how they're made, it varies internally

[tidal geyser]

sata 1

[rigid fjord]

not even then tbh dude

[tidal geyser]

i know i know but no HMB

[tacit star]

Btw another thing, should I store programs (like VLC, Audacity, Steam, DAC/AMP software) on the OS drive or the 2.5" SSD?

[tidal geyser]

will feel a decent difference vs nvme for some things

[keen folio]

Can someone tell me why people are selling cardboard?

[tidal geyser]

you have 2TB NVME

[rigid fjord]

overkill for an OS drive, and the fact this even has dram cache, the kc3000 is more like a 9/10

[tidal geyser]

box

[proven shoal]

my 990 pro 😅

[keen folio]

Yeah Ik. But doesn’t make sense to sell a fuckin box.

[tacit star]

My bad, it is 1TB

[junior merlin]

So, who makes good graphics cards now? Like, who's got the best reliability and warranty?

[rigid fjord]

can has issues just like the 980 pro did

[tidal geyser]

its like what under 100MB programs

[tacit star]

And still I mean which is "better"

[proven shoal]

i have the 4tb one, which in theory by the time it release, the issues were fixed

[keen folio]

I’ve had multiple gigabyte cards fail in the last 3 years. So they are definitely not my nr1 choice. Never had any problems with Asus and Pny cards tho.

[tacit star]

I've been storing programs all the time on C, no matter the drive

[tidal geyser]

do you have anything on your walls

[keen folio]

What do u mean? Like posters? Yeah. Displates.

[candid bolt]

Cooler Master MWE Gold V3 FM 750W strømforsyning would this be a okay psu?

[tacit star]

Even back in time when I only had a filthy hard drive in two partitions

[glossy veldt]

fuck that sim

[tidal geyser]

why would anyone put on a piece of metal on their wall

[rigid fjord]

i have yet to try the warranty out, but sapphire basically the best for amd cards

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-burns-box-choice-riddle-game-show-gif-25473764

[tidal geyser]

ja den er faktis ikke e-avfall

[glossy veldt]

we go ALL the way back to IDE

[keen folio]

.. alright stop trolling. I asked a genuine question cuz I don’t understand people that well.

[rigid fjord]

teir B psu, totally fine

[candid bolt]

Er du dansk sim???

[tidal geyser]

norsk

[keen folio]

We go back to hard soldered disks.

[candid bolt]

Ahhh makes sense

[woven wigeon]

back in my day we dint have to buy drives on sata-day

[rigid fjord]

to ship stuff with?

[tidal geyser]

it works both ways i do not see a reason for stuff on my walls but love hardware and kept all the boxes i got would never buy one tho

[rigid fjord]

rule #10

[tidal geyser]

this too

[tidal geyser]

buuuu

[glossy veldt]

hola soy goku...

[candid bolt]

?

[woven wigeon]

20 euros is like 2,6 visits at a macdonalds in my city

[rigid fjord]

all this discord is to be in english

[glossy veldt]

the rule that stops the tower of babel from happening twice

[candid bolt]

Oh sorry.

[tidal geyser]

wut

that was due to everyone speaking the same language was it not

[woven wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-greatest-technician-that's-ever-lived-gif-2176401054834038966

[rigid fjord]

nope, but it's a rule that stops welsh people from visiting this discord

[tidal geyser]

then god made the different languages so the people making the tower could not talk to each other

[woven wigeon]

😱

scary indeed

[spring latch]

well I got something that is fragile and it turns out fedex is delivering it so i am going to hope as hard as possilble that fedex wont damage it

[tidal geyser]

insurance should have been gotten

[glossy veldt]

burp

[woven wigeon]

ur also betting on did the person whos sending this did they pack it well?

[spring latch]

too poor

[tidal geyser]

i love Norway everything comes with it

[spring latch]

its from ebay so yep i am though ive never had issues with USPS delivered eBay packages

[tidal geyser]

been payed out a few times even once got it in the end

[woven wigeon]

dont they have the most luxrious jails?

[tidal geyser]

yes yes

[spring latch]

i really hope my thermal paste comes today my CPU is just cooking while doing basiclly nothing

[rigid fjord]

but way less repeat offenders unlike other countries

[tidal geyser]

iv gamed on cpus without paste and them doing under 80c at 60w

[spring latch]

ggggggg

[woven wigeon]

id do the opposite, why pay for a 5 star hotel when you can have some ilegal fun and get sent to one for free

[glossy veldt]

DAMN you're down to 20w

[spring latch]

which is why I need this paste

[glossy veldt]

bro thermal paste is NOT expensive

[tidal geyser]

your thermalpaste is worth more than the cpu also uh is the cooler even on?

[woven wigeon]

depends where you buy it from

[tidal geyser]

its on the way

[woven wigeon]

maybe the fan is broken?

[glossy veldt]

not relevant for a 7th gen i5

[spring latch]

i already got it, its coming from from today to the fifth

[glossy veldt]

nah you need that YESTERDAY

[tidal geyser]

even thne should be able to do 20w

[spring latch]

nope, the cooler is on and the fan is running, a clip is broken though 🔥 🔥

[woven wigeon]

woudnt it shut down cus of the temps?

[spring latch]

1 gone 3 clips left

[tidal geyser]

nah

[spring latch]

not even screws

[tidal geyser]

its only if he puts a load on it

[spring latch]

only if it ended up hitting 105

[woven wigeon]

ive had my parents laptop shut down on me while playing ROBLOX the most lightweight game on minimum graphics but it was on igpu

[spring latch]

even when I put a load on it it doesnt shut down

i mistype

the CPU is just throttling enough to not die

[tidal geyser]

i am amazed how well not sure what to call it but meh modern protection stuff works

[woven wigeon]

its also the reason they are angry abt my laptop going brr brr trying to cool itself down with a 76 degrees thermal limit

[vague glacier]

[spring latch]

welll its not a modern CPU its from 2017

[tidal geyser]

More modern than a 30 year old cpu

[spring latch]

im gonna see if my thermal paste has arrived and hope it did

[barren solstice]

i have one question what termal pase and termal putty do you guys recomed for a gaming laptop mine runs pretty hot while playing games

[quartz goblet]

anything really

arctic or noctua is normally the best

[glossy veldt]

mayonnaise

its really good at dissipating heat for being made with egg and oil

[quartz goblet]

thats not a bad idea

[tidal geyser]

Ptm for the core like ptm 7950 or thermaleight Helios

[woven wigeon]

what are the temps?

[woven wigeon]

ptm 7950 from lttstore.com

[glossy veldt]

NEVER use liquid metal by the way

[barren solstice]

like on the cpu some times the max of 95 but asus has pretty shit paste

[woven wigeon]

only factories can do it

[winter lantern]

use it to be different

[woven wigeon]

and they still can mess up

[vestal stream]

Pls let it only be 1 stick

[glossy veldt]

be different and burn your motherboard

[woven wigeon]

use it to make your laptop a display piece or a piece of flair

[glossy veldt]

this 31 of december light up the sky by putting liquid metal on your gaming laptop

[quartz goblet]

i actually prefer solid metal

i use a sheet of aluminium between the cpu and the cooler

[barren solstice]

i wont use liquid metal i am not crazy to burn up my motherboard

[glossy veldt]

son what is your laptop model what specs does it have have you cleaned the heatsink first

[woven wigeon]

like i said use liquid metal to make your lapop become flair/museum inventory

[glossy veldt]

i could kill you with questions right now

[tidal geyser]

DO NOT EVER use liquid metal

[woven wigeon]

by museum i mean dumb pepole items museum

[barren solstice]

its an asus tuf a16 advantage editon with a ryzen 7 7735hs and a amd rx7600s

[tidal geyser]

there is ZERO reason to ever use it anymore

[delicate geode]

I’m gonna reinstall windows fully tmr with a USB and everything I am also wanting to clear my CMOS before so I can sort of start from scratch completely. How would I go abt doing this? Just clear CMOS then boot into bios?

[woven wigeon]

yeah even factories sometimes fail to

if mr billion dollar building cant so can you

[cosmic helm]

remove cmos and put it back in and it should reset, you dont need to reboot it with the battery out i dont believe

you may even have a clear cmos pin on the motherboard you can jump but it just depends on the board

[tidal geyser]

yes

https://tenor.com/view/buildapc-cmos-gif-24520019

just do the thing on the right for 10sec

no need to take the battery out

[glossy veldt]

yeah use ptm

[barren solstice]

sadly its not as avalable in hungary as its in the us

[lone ginkgo]

chat what's the best mouse DPI for playing PUBG???

[tidal geyser]

up to you

[tidal geyser]

thermalright helios

[rigid fjord]

thing is, they actually rehabilitate offenders there, and many come out able to get a job, but go to anohter country and instead you'll find someone who's been to the same kind of prison at least 3 to 5 times already

[glossy veldt]

adding on top of this be real careful when removing and placing the heatsink

you don't wanna bust your lovely die

or chip a corner

[woven wigeon]

oh ok

[tidal geyser]

what

[glossy veldt]

laptops use direct dies as far as im concerned

[tidal geyser]

yup its why ptm is so good on it

also btw those dies are harder than glass

i have seen people hammer at them with a screw driver

[woven wigeon]

ive seen mrwhosetheboss like do a tour of a prison called hmp fosse way and its also kidna the same thing its a prison but the cells have computers for learning and they have like testing booths where for example you can learn how to operate a cat digger with the digger sim they have

[rigid fjord]

well, certain glasses

[barren solstice]

i dont think the paste is dry so it will come of easily and the only termal putty avalable is the TG basic/advance/pro sadly no upsiren or k5 pro

[glossy veldt]

i thought it was thermal paste, I don't trust them with thermal paste lowkey

[tidal geyser]

what

[glossy veldt]

this

[untold crow]

Guys

Good night

[glossy veldt]

its 6:40 pm

[untold crow]

No

[glossy veldt]

get out

[untold crow]

Good evening

Guys

I have a question

[woven wigeon]

?

[tidal geyser]

no

[untold crow]

Reverse fan means exhaust

[glossy veldt]

you're pushing all my buttons son, you better run when my eyes turn red

[untold crow]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-running-past-gif-3044631603201692058

[glossy veldt]

god gave you hands

[woven wigeon]

why does that sound a line from a game like rdr 2 or smth

[glossy veldt]

feel the air

[untold crow]

Dude

I wanna order

I don’t have a physical one

Ik someone here is nice enough to tell me

[glossy veldt]

don't normal fans pull air from the nice side

[tidal geyser]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/634438385313775644/1073432582185816124/airflow3.gif

[untold crow]

In the name of science this is called reverse

[tidal geyser]

not what he asked

biggest issue in the UK be like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGNswfdMHzE

[mint umbra]

Wish I got woled instead lol

Monitor has purple tint

[tidal geyser]

maybe turn it on?

[mint umbra]

I mean in dark scenes can still see purple tint

[tidal geyser]

why do you have your lights on when trying to watch dark stuff

[mint umbra]

Cuz I don't want to fry my eye balls

[tidal geyser]

you don't

[mint umbra]

I already have to wear glasses

[tidal geyser]

me too

[mint umbra]

Don't want to make vision worse

[untold crow]

Good evening

[tidal geyser]

not how that works

[delicate geode]

Okay so is that a screwdriver? Just touch it to that metal thingy for 10 seconds and it’ll clear CMOS?

[tidal geyser]

yes

[mint umbra]

Using monitor in dark gives me eye strain

[tidal geyser]

unplug the pc from the wall too

[tidal geyser]

then just turn down the lights aka get new bulbs or a dimmer

[barren solstice]

are arctic thermal pastes good or nah?

[delicate geode]

Got it. Is it hard to break this CMOS thingy cuse I never done it before. I’m fairly confident but jsut wondering

[sharp ivy]

eh it should survive

[tidal geyser]

it is not

[sharp ivy]

I haven't broken one yet and I'm not exactly precise

[untold crow]

Does anyone here knows about small screen that could be placed in the pc

[tidal geyser]

for direct die in your case get PTM aka thermalright helios

[untold crow]

Without the fans

[delicate geode]

Alright that helps a ton thanks. So clearing CMOS will reset my bios to factory default right?

[tidal geyser]

get a laptop and just have it play anime gifs on the screen on the side of your desk

[tidal geyser]

yes

[ivory mountain]

no fuck u

[tidal geyser]

now get it under the die

[ivory mountain]

🔥

i suck at applying tg shield my hands are so shaky

[tidal geyser]

no wait aint that PTM

what is going on with the die

[ivory mountain]

tg shield around the die and i put LM on it after i took this pic

[tidal geyser]

the die does not look right in the pic

[tired bear]

ono

[ivory mountain]

idk why it looks weird i just cleaned it before this

[tired bear]

inb4 aluminium heatsink

[ivory mountain]

nickel plated copper

59c hotspot in game now 🙏

[tidal geyser]

watching gaming laptops be repaired and the amount of em being a no fix due to LM is insane

[ivory mountain]

yeah cuz they dont know what electrically conductive means

[tidal geyser]

well they do have barriers and whatnot

[barren solstice]

they are not avalable in hungary sadly and even if ptm is super expensive here

[ivory mountain]

Shes beautiful

holy compression

[ivory mountain]

i tried ptm but it didnt perform as good as this

[tidal geyser]

well yea i would imagine so as it aint liquid all the time

[ivory mountain]

tbf i only did it because im getting a 9070xt soon

[grizzled frost]

ptm does great at high power draws, but it’s idle performance isn’t all that impressive

since at lower power draws it’s a bit more viscous

[ivory mountain]

drawing 450w on 3dmark on here and the hotspot went from 110c to 85c

but my daily i just undervolted it and it runs like 56c hotspot during gaming

[tidal geyser]

its why im 50/50 if it really is the best for laptops

[grizzled frost]

laptops generally run hotter at idle than desktops

[tidal geyser]

since the fan/fans turn off

[grizzled frost]

generally you want laptops to idle hot

since it means you aren’t hearing the cooling solution when you don’t need to

that combined with the fact that it’s usually direct die, means even at idle it performs excellently on laptops

[tidal geyser]

yea but the algo that keeps track of it might have a harder time when it is required to be hotter to transfer some heat

i am pretty sure on my carbon x1 after doing ptm it was quicker to start the fan

[stray portal]

Should i send an email to secretlab begging for a chair 😈

[tidal geyser]

no

[ivory mountain]

just get a job and buy one brotato

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/brotato-gif-3733334434371648131

[barren solstice]

maybe because of the ptm the cpu got hot faster before the heatsink got the heat from the cpu

[stray portal]

its worth a shot

[tidal geyser]

well yea

[barren solstice]

so paste is sometimes better i think when you just use your laptop for light works

[tidal geyser]

liquid metal time

nah i would never

[barren solstice]

me too its to dangerous especially in laptops

[ivory mountain]

Its not bad as long as ur not a dumbass but ptm is def better for most people though

[tidal geyser]

tbf with a lot of laptops it just leaks over time

[ivory mountain]

Yep especially the pre applied LM laptops

[tidal geyser]

its funny i saw one of my uncles kid had gotten a new laptop and it marketed it had LM

[ivory mountain]

Uncles kid so ur cousin

[barren solstice]

in the Tuf gaming laptops its not even possible

[tidal geyser]

that is the word i was looking for

[barren solstice]

its a new product at least in Hungary the Arctic MX7 paste so i might go with that and for the putty with the Termal Grizzly Advance because that is the only good one avalable here

[tidal geyser]

nice

[barren solstice]

i think asus uses some cheap paste and putty because after just 2 years my laptop overheats

[tidal geyser]

no that is just how paste works

[azure topaz]

a reasonable amount of time tbf

[tidal geyser]

also bet you never cleaned the fins or fans

[azure topaz]

2 years for paste to dry out+dust to accumulate

[lone ginkgo]

which mouse is better for gaming chat

[azure topaz]

the wireless one

[ivory mountain]

2 years lmao paste lasts like 3 weeks on my gpu i hate pumpout

[lone ginkgo]

kk

[tidal geyser]

the one you play better with

[azure topaz]

either skill issue or bad paste or over exaggerating

if youre repasting ur gpu every 2 weeks you have a skill issue

[fickle ivy]

Is this safe to plug in?

[lone ginkgo]

wireless one feels lighter without having the wire on it

[tidal geyser]

then it is that one

[barren solstice]

yeah probably i just blow into it and its disappears

[dawn lodge]

Anyone know of a site that sells any of the AM4 X3d chips. cannot find them reasonably priced anywhere and with the price of DDR5 memory atm im sticking with am4. 🤣 Ideally UK based.

[rigid fjord]

it's the same mouse under 2 different numbers there

[azure topaz]

doesnt really exist, you either ovepay for ddr5 memory or overpay for cope am4 x3d

[ivory mountain]

Im exaggerating its like every other month but i tried kryonaut, kingpin kpx, mx6, and thermalrights paste

Said fuck it and went to LM since im upgrading soon anyways

[feral stream]

All right guys what do you think of the cable management?

[azure topaz]

describe

[ivory mountain]

Good

[tidal geyser]

they have not been made for like a year or two

[dawn lodge]

ahh not the news i was hoping for lol

[azure topaz]

id personally choose the overpay for ddr5 route

[barren solstice]

its interesting when i was upgrading the ram and the ssd the wents and the fans didn't have a spec of dust in them

[dawn lodge]

Not got the budget to shell out for ddr5 atm 🤣

[tidal geyser]

check the fins

[ivory mountain]

Describe what brotato

[azure topaz]

your issues

i just dont think theres any way thermal performance is degrading so much within a month that you have to repaste

[barren solstice]

it was clear nothing in them like i even blow it out with air

[tidal geyser]

wut

[dawn lodge]

already got the rest of the build just need a decent gaming am4 chip as the one i have isnt pulling its weight so to speak. 🤣

[ivory mountain]

its just paste pumpout on the gpu die

[azure topaz]

brother

give me data

[tidal geyser]

what you got

[azure topaz]

youre telling me like 6 different popular pastes all did this

[dawn lodge]

R5-5500

[ivory mountain]

Yes u dummy have u not repasted a gpu before

[azure topaz]

yes mf thats why im asking you cause thats just gotta be a skill issue

[tidal geyser]

ah yea the laptop cpu, i think a 5800X should be a decent upgrade

[ivory mountain]

LM my beloved

[azure topaz]

ive never had any gpu i repasted degrade significantly enough to consider a repaste within a couple months

even with china hy510

[azure topaz]

but also instead of giving me a temperature example youre calling me stupid

[ivory mountain]

Its weird cause i manually spread it, ive noticed it only happens on my red devil cards (5700xt and 6900xt)

[dawn lodge]

know of anywhere i could get one thats not extortionately priced. Gonna be paired with a 5060

[wispy wraith]

i bought the rx 9060xt 16gb and it cane with the worse hynix vram. should i return it? vram is 64° idle 83° gaming and this is with 3 fan gigabyte gpu

[azure topaz]

perhaps they suck at making coolers and the cold plate isnt even

[azure topaz]

hynix is...good...?

[grizzled frost]

calling sk hynix bad is wild

[ivory mountain]

98c hotspot @450w to throttling at 390 watts 2 months later, i open the card and see a giant paste-free spot in the top left every time😭

[wispy wraith]

rx9060xt comes with Samsung or hynix ram. Samsung runs much cooler than hynix at same performance

[azure topaz]

put the cooler on properly lol

[tidal geyser]

ngl i feel like a 5500 and 5060 is well balanced enough

[azure topaz]

and this matters to you why

[wispy wraith]

its like gambling which rx9060xt you get

[azure topaz]

no it just seems like you get an identical gpu either way

[tidal geyser]

83c gaming sounds insane

[ivory mountain]

I remounted the mf like 7 times since 2023 lmao, the cooling is fine with LM

[tidal geyser]

most coolers tend to be like 100c

[dawn lodge]

Not with the performance thats being had out of it lol.

[azure topaz]

dawg idk you are the only person in the world with this issue

[wispy wraith]

for how long the gpu last. if its 83° brand new it will be worse over time

[azure topaz]

83c is still a lot less than the 115c it throttles at

youre more than fine, just use the card

[grizzled frost]

83 is downright chilly for vram under load

[tidal geyser]

no shit 1c over ambi will damage something quesiton is time, and with how modern parts are made that thing will last longer then you

[ivory mountain]

The highest ive ever seen my vram hit was 73c

[grizzled frost]

varies wildly from card to card

[tidal geyser]

yea it does matter up to what you do and play but keep in mind the 5060 aint some ultra gaming card but still plenty fast

[grizzled frost]

and cooler model to model

[tidal geyser]

did you not also replace the pads

[ivory mountain]

No i havent in a while

[carmine yew]

Go to tc2, scroll a bit and scope my archeological dig today

[wispy wraith]

idk bro. xfx tested these and hynix vram cards vram is 87° 1800rpm fan samsung 77° and 1400rpm fan. so it is also louder

[tidal geyser]

so that is a yes

[azure topaz]

why argue with me if you made up your mind

👍 lol

if you want to do it then do it, 3 people telling you its fine though

[ivory mountain]

Idk why i did, it was in 2023 at the last change, the pads were already fine

[dawn lodge]

Yeah i know that lol but getting some bad performance issues i dont have when i put the card into my own rig lol.

[tidal geyser]

what game and what is your cpu

[dawn lodge]

should mention the other build im looking for a chip for is a build im doing for a mate not me lol

doesnt have a pc atm so thought id sort one out

[tidal geyser]

was game

[wispy wraith]

okay thanks for help anways.

i also expexted the gpu to be better than it is 😂

in games its not that much better than my old rtx 2060 6gb.

and the gpu performs better than avg rx9060xt tested on benchmarks

[azure topaz]

what cpu?

[wispy wraith]

r5 5600x

[azure topaz]

could be why

[wispy wraith]

its not bottlenecking it

gpu is at 100% cpu 60%

[stray portal]

My 5700x doesnt go past 80 while gaming

On bequiet dark rock pro 5

[grizzled frost]

check single thread usage

total usage means almost nothing when it comes to seeing if it’s a cpu bottleneck

[wispy wraith]

a okay didnt know that. will check it tomorrow

[tidal geyser]

multi core programming is super hard and its so funny how even if the cpu looks like its not used much you can still gain a lot more fps by upgrading it up to many many factors

[wispy wraith]

but i dont think that an 5600x will bottleneck an rx9060 xt

[azure topaz]

not sure but if its "not that much better than a 2060" something is limiting you

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/sussa-gif-3576410136483948131

it very very very much matters what game and what you are doing

[wispy wraith]

or i was expecting too much

[azure topaz]

a 9060xt 16gb should be about double the speed of a 2060

[high halo]

I have my old 240gb sata ssd laying around ever since i bought an nvme, question is, does it need dot be turned on every once in a while or can it handle being off for a few years?

[grizzled frost]

there’s no such thing as a “gaming bottleneck” or any such generalization, only specific application bottlenecks

[tidal geyser]

yes it has to clear bit rot

[high halo]

What is bitrot?

[tidal geyser]

well bits rotting

as in 1s become 0s

[azure topaz]

my homie just went from a 2060 to a 9060xt

[high halo]

Well I haven't turned it on in a long time? Is it too late

[tired bear]

Ssd store data in tiny capacitors, over time they can discharge and you loose data

[random junco]

finally got a domain

[tidal geyser]

unless its been at like 60-80c for a while its fine

[high halo]

Nah i just kept it in my drawer

But what about bit rot tho?

[wispy wraith]

i will probably return it and keep my 2060 for a while

[tidal geyser]

it still happens

but the speed is SO SO SO many times faster the hotter it is

[azure topaz]

hes also on a 5600 but has to upgrade his cpu cause its too slow for a lot of games he plays

[high halo]

Wait that means if I store it in really cold temps it would slow down bitrot

[tidal geyser]

yes

[azure topaz]

brother you are the most paranoid individual on the planet

whats on the 240GB SSD thats so important?

[high halo]

Wdym paranoid?

[azure topaz]

if its so important, maybe put it on to your actual drive?

[azure topaz]

this is i shit you not like the 18th question similar to this from you

why are you so worried 😭

[high halo]

Its not abou5 the data, its about the integrity so I can just reuse it

[azure topaz]

then its fine

[high halo]

I already cloned it to my nvme

[azure topaz]

then youre fine

[tidal geyser]

well its the data on it not the NAND

[high halo]

So it'll just wipe data over time

[tidal geyser]

aka if you are going to use it again the rotted away bits will just be written over

just reformat it

[high halo]

I thought it would also reduce the lifespan of the ssd

[craggy cove]

my 10€ note might get a little moldy

[tidal geyser]

nothing is happening on the drive so no

[azure topaz]

no, over a VERY long period of time at high ambient temperatures, the drive will slowly flip 1's to 0's, corrupting files over time

you dont have any files you care about on the ssd so it doesnt matter

[high halo]

Ah, ok thanks for clarifying it

[azure topaz]

thats it

[high halo]

Im glad my ssd isnt slowly rotting

[tidal geyser]

your 240GB ssd

[wispy wraith]

the game i play most is counter strike 2.

benchmark dust 2:
rtx 2060: 280avg fps
170lowest fps

rx9060 390 avg fps
170 lowest fps

so its not worth it for me.

[azure topaz]

yeah that is a cpu bound game bro

[craggy cove]

what

[azure topaz]

but why would you upgrade your gpu if you got 280fps in the game you played the most, do you have a 240hz or higher monitor?

[wispy wraith]

fps drops bro

[azure topaz]

yeah thats all cpu bro

[wispy wraith]

thats the only reson

[craggy cove]

exact same situation for me

[azure topaz]

return and buy better cpu with the monies

[craggy cove]

7500f and 2060 super rn

[azure topaz]

am5 or whatever

[wispy wraith]

would be better for me i think yeah

[craggy cove]

350 average 150 fps 0.1 with a 2060 super
450 average 180 fps 0.1 with a 3070

[wispy wraith]

i think 7500f is a little better than 5600x

[tidal geyser]

tbf 32GB of ddr5 is like a rx 9060 xt in price

[azure topaz]

true

but when the only way is up, you kinda have no choice

[tidal geyser]

for anything cpu bound X3D

[craggy cove]

yeah i had the 5600 and then went to a 7500f, game feels nicer to play now

[wispy wraith]

i forgot about ddr5 prices yeah so no upgrade 😂

[craggy cove]

if i could get a 7800x3d for 200€ someday i will upgrade

[azure topaz]

buy a 5600x3d or 5700x3 if you can find them for a reasonable price

[tidal geyser]

costs more than zen 4 ones

[random gyro]

sup

[azure topaz]

like 250$ or less for the 5600x3d and like less than 325 fror the 5700x3d

[craggy cove]

besides my fps is not why im ass

[azure topaz]

thats why i said if

[wispy wraith]

what settings you play at? i am at 4:3 1440x1080 competitive settings

[azure topaz]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/406505799219?

i personally think this is a pretty ok deal

[craggy cove]

oh hey literally the same lol

[ivory mountain]

ur 100% a cs2 player

[azure topaz]

cause you could just resell the board and ram for like 200$ or something

=200$ cpu

[wispy wraith]

same with me i just hate it because i can see fps drops

[craggy cove]

eh i still have those randomly

[random gyro]

me who has ryzen 5 7600x3d and 32 gigs of ddr5

[tidal geyser]

could probs sell board and ram for profit

[azure topaz]

ok

[azure topaz]

uh no

[tidal geyser]

o wait you guys have it way better

[craggy cove]

when my fps just goes to under 100 (ass in cs2) and i need to restart the game

[tidal geyser]

here that would be the case

[azure topaz]

maybe 100-150$ for the ram, 100$ for the board

just ends up making the CPU an actually ok price

[wispy wraith]

could be the game is just bad... valve doesnt care 😂

[craggy cove]

yep basically

[tidal geyser]

gets 400 fps=game bad

[craggy cove]

alt tabbing has a 4% chance of fucking my shit up too

[wispy wraith]

i am from europe so. also paid 390€ for the rx9060xt 16gb. thats probably more than in us

[tidal geyser]

yes yes it dips but its a old cpu

[craggy cove]

240fps in cs2 feels like 100 on valorant

[tidal geyser]

wait, have you done a ram tune?

[wispy wraith]

ram tune?

i run it at what it is. 3200mhz ddr4 cl16

[azure topaz]

lol

[wispy wraith]

gpu is stock no oc

cpu is auto oc

[tidal geyser]

talking about primaries xd

[craggy cove]

my poopy micron ddr5 cant really be improved

[tidal geyser]

figure out what dies your sticks use

[craggy cove]

limited edition

[wispy wraith]

😂

[tidal geyser]

floppa do you have that chart of how to figure out what dies sticks are from the sticker

well picture not chart

[craggy cove]

doesnt hwinfo show it too?

[azure topaz]

dont bother with that just do basic tweaks

[azure topaz]

yes it can, its probably d die

[azure topaz]

depends on specific sticks

open hwinfo, right click it in your tray, open memory timings

[craggy cove]

a die last time i checked

[azure topaz]

micron a die? pain

[craggy cove]

yep my old samsung b die didnt show it but this does

[azure topaz]

okay well just do refi, rfc, faws and rrds with trc

[ivory mountain]

holy nerd

[mint umbra]

what are the benifits of dual booting

[craggy cove]

kinda regret not getting that hynix 6000mhz cl30 kit for 70€ back in september

[azure topaz]

set trc to your kits tras XMP timings
set refi to 65535
find what the lowest rfc you can boot is

[craggy cove]

thought "eh already have my ram"

[ivory mountain]

u get to larp on tiktok about security

[mint umbra]

what is larp

and I dont use tiktok

[tidal geyser]

what do you think

[mint umbra]

less ai stuff I guess

[azure topaz]

primaries are useless, for the most part fyi

[ivory mountain]

i suck at explaining things

[craggy cove]

what are the benefits of putting shiny lights on my computer

[wispy wraith]

what does that mean?. does this also apply to ddr4?

[azure topaz]

ram tuning is pretty universal past d3

[craggy cove]

where is juhor ⁉️

[tidal geyser]

ty

[azure topaz]

well thats for ddr4, so

[mint umbra]

only benifit I see with using linux is not having to deal with copilot stuff and bloat wear

[craggy cove]

well they also make it

[azure topaz]

juhor makes nothing

[wispy wraith]

does that mean ram stick use same base and some are just other timings and mhz or what?

[craggy cove]

bought some rgb juhor, it was very squeaky

[azure topaz]

wha

[tidal geyser]

why not maybe try it?

[craggy cove]

well yeah

[azure topaz]

ok hold on ill try to explain the best i can

[wispy wraith]

if linux supported everything windows does with same performance i would switch imidietly

[azure topaz]

RAM has timing values which are delays in clock cycles, generally, the lower the better, as your ram is spending less time to do X command (theres exceptions)

[mint umbra]

yeah thats my biggest issue

[tidal geyser]

it does for me ish

[azure topaz]

your ram has like 20ish timings worth mentioning with realistically less than half of them mattering for most of your performance

[mint umbra]

like publishers like rockstar and stuff dont support linux

[azure topaz]

but XMP sucks at setting those right , especially on older platforms

[tidal geyser]

on my desktop only vr but i can live without

[wispy wraith]

well i use xpm

[mint umbra]

cant play gta online with linux

[tidal geyser]

you can still play those games on linux just not online

[craggy cove]

trading rgb ram for non rgb ram (dont mind the micron a die)

[tidal geyser]

that is called a good thing

[azure topaz]

so even on some insane say 4400MHz DDR4 sticks, there is a lot of performance you can get without changing the clock speed

[azure topaz]

no you dont, you use XMP, lol

[mint umbra]

me and friends like messing around on gta tho

[craggy cove]

ngl should i sell my ddr5 cpu and mobo and just go back to am4

[mint umbra]

is there an issue with liking gta now lol

[craggy cove]

but then again am4 cpus cost way too much now

[wispy wraith]

cpus and motherboards probably would not support taht

[tidal geyser]

nah

[azure topaz]

it exists, i used to run higher on ddr4

my daily DDR4 config was 4800

[craggy cove]

aliexpress 5600s are 110€ instead of 75€... its over

[wispy wraith]

😳 i thought max was 3800mhz for ddr4

[azure topaz]

on ryzen sure

[craggy cove]

ddr3 2400 is gangster

[azure topaz]

ryzen non g is a little bitch about clocking memory right because their own architecture design

[craggy cove]

found 16gb of it for 5€ randomly

[azure topaz]

basically comes down to the internal interconnects cant run higher themselves to support higher memory speed

not that the memory/board cant do it

[pseudo spire]

https://tenor.com/view/sixseven-six-seven-six-seve-67-gif-14143337669032958349

[craggy cove]

will my 2400g be a overclocking beast?

[azure topaz]

yes

[craggy cove]

ooh

[pseudo spire]

67!!

[azure topaz]

you think im being sarcastic but yes

[craggy cove]

micron d die or something

[azure topaz]

that wont be

[craggy cove]

lemme check

[azure topaz]

rev.e is good, i dont think rev.d is notable

[wispy wraith]

so in memory overclocking ryzen x is worse than g

[azure topaz]

yes but this is just because G cpus are one big slab of cpu, while X skus have to deal with the interconnect across multiple cpus

this is a delidded 5600X

meanwhile a 5600G

[tidal geyser]

fyi 5700 is a ram overcloking beast too

[azure topaz]

yeah

just depends on if its "monolithic"

[left trellis]

Would samsaung/micron ram OC poorly?

[azure topaz]

what flavor bro

ddr4 ddr5 what ic?

[tidal geyser]

silicon flavor

[left trellis]

ddr4

how do I check ic?

[tidal geyser]

.

[azure topaz]

what the cpus use to communicate between dies is called infinity fabric, on am4 this generally tops out at like 2000MHz on unicorn cpus, meaning that cpu allows for 4000MHz DDR4 in 1:1 mode, the fastest for AM4

but on am4 gskus you can expect over 2500MHz on the fabric

[left trellis]

is there any wayto do it without taking my stuff out 💔

[azure topaz]

easily accepting 5000MHz+ DDR4 memory

[tidal geyser]

hwinfo

[left trellis]

word

[azure topaz]

does not work on ddr4

[tidal geyser]

are you excited for zen 6

[azure topaz]

very low chance any ddr4 stick has the ic revision programmed into the SPD

you can check but i doubt it, its uncommonish even on ddr5

[left trellis]

is it anywhere here

[tidal geyser]

first time for everything

[azure topaz]

npoe!

[left trellis]

tragic

[tidal geyser]

gotta rip em out

[azure topaz]

open cpu-z

show me the memory and SPD tabs

[ivory mountain]

honestly im switching as soon as playnite is ported over, i dont game a lot anyways but i like having them all in one place

[azure topaz]

samsung its prolly cdie

[left trellis]

samsung AND micron twan

[azure topaz]

jesus

why 64gb

swap to just the micron

[left trellis]

after if ects

[azure topaz]

youre doing productivity you should be happy your ram is stable anddo nothing

[left trellis]

just for funzies

[azure topaz]

enable XMP then back the freq off to 3000 and see if it boots

[craggy cove]

oh i think i had e die

[left trellis]

it works at 3200 fortunately

[craggy cove]

cant check the exact model name but yeah

[azure topaz]

oh im regarded

[azure topaz]

actuallu youre lying

maybe not on purpose but your ram is at 2133 twan

[craggy cove]

3000mhz cl16 crucial ballistix whatever

[left trellis]

I tried running at 3300 and it reset it back and i didnt feel like putting it on again 😭

[azure topaz]

yeah thats rev.e

[left trellis]

I get get my shit back rq hold on

[azure topaz]

do 3200 and shit then show me same stuff

i can help you do some ez timings for 3200

[craggy cove]

selling ram tuning course for 300$

[azure topaz]

in your bios
advanced dram timings
tRRD_S:4
tRRD_L:4
tREFI:65535
tFAW:16

[wispy wraith]

you know what is gskill 3200mhz cl16? hwinfo says sk hynix

[azure topaz]

its djr or cjr (probably)

decent but doesnt do amazing timings

can clock pretty good

i think my GF has 64GB of DJR at 4400 rn

[wispy wraith]

whats the easyest way to check which one it is ?

[azure topaz]

see how low of a tRFC value you can boot at whatever freq

so try 368 at 3200 and see if it boots

if it does its DJR and not CJR, as CJR is worse

if it doesnt boot its probably CJR

[azure topaz]

bios, advanced dram timings (this will be by wherever you enable XMP in the advanced mode is)

tRFC

[left trellis]

we back

[craggy cove]

micron a die oc results:

[hallow heart]

Guys im having this weird issue, its kinda like flickering on my screen

But whej i start overwatch for example but only in the menu

[azure topaz]

seems legit did you do the other things too ccause you can try that

[hallow heart]

And its slightly on the darker parts

[azure topaz]

by try i mean do that it should just work but you never know

[left trellis]

nah this is just xmp

[azure topaz]

.

[hallow heart]

Barely visible

[tidal geyser]

stroke

[left trellis]

word I shall be back then on my phone

[azure topaz]

both of you ddr4 gooners can do those timings

[left trellis]

think i restarted b4 I saw that

[azure topaz]

my bad gang

[hallow heart]

Gpu failure? 😰

[tidal geyser]

is hdr on

[hallow heart]

I dont think so

[tidal geyser]

no eye

[hallow heart]

I did take an edible

[hallow heart]

But bro i swear it wasnt like this

[tidal geyser]

ffs

your high sleep it off

[azure topaz]

tRFC2 and 4 can be ignored

i assure you, its not at 312 like it says there, its just lying lol

you have XMP on correct? you can do the things i told yall if so

[wispy wraith]

so i should just try 368

[azure topaz]

yep

dont apply any other timing if ur gonna do the trfc stuff just see if it boots now

[gleaming rose]

we should blow up the ai datacenters after evacuating the employees

[azure topaz]

and scavenging the ram and video cards

[gleaming rose]

would be better for the environment long term

[tidal geyser]

not many in there anyways

[azure topaz]

need the ram and video cards tho

[left trellis]

Im not able to find this 😭

[gleaming rose]

and then shut down all the ai companies

[hallow heart]

I swesr bro

[azure topaz]

asus names them weird

[tidal geyser]

go to sleep

[azure topaz]

tRRD's will be named row to row delay i think

tREFI is t refresh interval i think

tfaw will be four activate window

[left trellis]

Got it

[wispy wraith]

it booted up to windows normaly

[azure topaz]

download zen timings and open it, then send a screenshot here

[hallow heart]

I think im just tweakun

[azure topaz]

and ur at 3200 like i thought right? if so yeah you have DJR

you can try booting lower like 352 or 336 but i doubt it

[wispy wraith]

yes

[tidal geyser]

slay the spire is so fun

[azure topaz]

if you want to continue actually tuning and maybe try increasing freq we can, but ram stress testing takes a while to do properly and you may find that you think its annoying to type in a bunch of random stuff and have to cmos reset

[azure topaz]

none of this would change but if it booted youre probably fine as an easy lil perf gain

[left trellis]

oh alright

[azure topaz]

if not just type in the same values i told the other guy to type in

[wispy wraith]

how do you know so much about ram tuning? impresive

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/sheep-gif-4520105

[left trellis]

brodies a nerd

[wispy wraith]

i will go try 336 if it boots, if it doesnt will it auto go back or do i need to take cmos out

[azure topaz]

depends on if your computer likes you

in my experience am4 safe booted properly but on some boards it just didnt

safe boot means it goes back to default settings just to turn on but it saves your settings for you to adjust

other computers might just fully reset for you

other computers you might have to do it yourself

i doubt 336 will boot so no reason to try

[wispy wraith]

will just leave it for now and try the other settings you suggested on photo

[azure topaz]

if you want to mess with freq and stuff

keep the other timings applied however those are pretty universal

across any frequency

the RRD's and faw

[azure topaz]

oh when you change to 3600, youll have to change the FCLK to 1800, the UCLK should auto sync

if not we'll manually adjust it

[wispy wraith]

it booted with changing the values you provided earlier

[azure topaz]

idk when am4 swaps to 2:1 automatically

[azure topaz]

figured it would, never seen sticks that cant

[wispy wraith]

😂 oh ok

[azure topaz]

lol

[wispy wraith]

will try the frequency now, if my r5 5600x will allow it to

[azure topaz]

should do it

[left trellis]

floppa do you think i could get 3600 on my stuff

[azure topaz]

am4 chips will top out at 3866 most commonly at the high end

(somewhere around that area)

[azure topaz]

maybe? mixed ic's is stressful on the best memory controllers and you have shit ic's mixed lol

cdie doesnt like high volts so dont bother adjusting your dram voltage above 1.35

[wispy wraith]

is cas latency is tcl yes?

[azure topaz]

mhm

[azure topaz]

i do a lot of this

[wispy wraith]

will see now if it boots at 3600

[azure topaz]

hopefully will

got some pretty shit djr and or cpu if it doesnt

[wispy wraith]

well fans just runing not booting up 😂

[azure topaz]

might take longer than usual we'll see

might also just safe boot

[azure topaz]

if it does, adjust the middle timings in this photo to 22

then retry

[wispy wraith]

okay. doubt it will still nothing

[azure topaz]

yeah probably not, hopefully it safeboots or something though

oh lol it didnt boot cause of trfc im regarded

go look at the chart i sent earlier and adjust the tRFC value to fit for 3600

[azure topaz]

.

should be about 420

dont bother changing those middle primaries to 22 just adjust trfc

[wispy wraith]

well my luck i think i will have to take cmos out

[azure topaz]

probably

its a normal process lol

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/buildapc-cmos-gif-24520019

[wispy wraith]

Thought my mobo gigabyte b550 would have safe boot or something

[azure topaz]

sometimes its tempermental

[hollow sorrel]

Would this be good for pc cleaning

https://amzn.eu/d/hHnfHl0

[azure topaz]

especially with trfc lol cause it really wants to boot

but its just barely failing

it probably passes boot tests and tries to turn on for real then fail so its not hitting safe boot or something

[wispy wraith]

took the battery out. forgot how long it takes for settings to reset?

[azure topaz]

unplug whole thing too and give it like 30 seconds, mash the power button for good measure

just from power not like every usb cable lol

[craggy cove]

cant remember the last time i didnt have a clear cmos header

[azure topaz]

im a battery kinda guy

[tidal geyser]

you need to short it too as it has caps

[azure topaz]

unplug and mash power button fixes lo

although for future reference your clear CMOS header is here if you dont want to keep pulling the battery

if your case has a reset button you can also temporarily hook it up to that header

[craggy cove]

they kinda suck to pull out tho

[tidal geyser]

nah

https://tenor.com/view/buildapc-cmos-gif-24520019

[craggy cove]

skill issue on my part probably

[azure topaz]

i just use my nail

unless it has a weird battery holder its ez

[craggy cove]

i try to and fail

[azure topaz]

loser

[wispy wraith]

it does thats really smart

[azure topaz]

big brain

[wispy wraith]

never thought about it

[azure topaz]

you can tell ive been here a couple times

[wispy wraith]

😂 will enter the timings again and see

[ionic peak]

Head

[azure topaz]

g305 won you that

[ionic peak]

What is that or why red

[azure topaz]

ram timings the red is what im telling them to change

visual examples are a lot easier than just writing the timing values

since theyre always in the same order

lets you learn muscle memory for where x value is in bios

[ionic peak]

True

[ionic peak]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-chest-bust-rip-shirt-gif-18233808676138016499

[wispy wraith]

ok adjusted everything will see now

[azure topaz]

did you enable XMP

[wispy wraith]

yes 3600

[azure topaz]

nah not the same thing

[wispy wraith]

3200 then change to 3600

[azure topaz]

ok good

[wispy wraith]

well takes long again. dont think it will boot

[swift stream]

i ran my cpu at -15 all core and auto boost override

[azure topaz]

damn you do have sad ram

[ionic peak]

Most active channel atm

[azure topaz]

get that reset button wired up

[wispy wraith]

ram tuning 😎

[azure topaz]

eam

[rigid fjord]

@azure topaz what changes you think to get this to push for 3800 cl16?

[azure topaz]

soc volts