tech-chat-1

[soft laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/67-67-kid-edit-analog-horror-phonk-gif-3349401281762803381

[waxen shell]

https://tenor.com/view/67-6-7-6-7-6-7-meme-gif-10920175127833152373

[soft laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-67-scp-67-funyuns-funny-gif-75413186200073602

[waxen shell]

Invest in 67 coin my original gangsters

[wise pelican]

this is my favorite tho

[ionic peak]

whats the point of 6 7ß

[wise pelican]

the holes on the cpu actually dropped temps by like 30 degrees

[ionic peak]

??

[soft laurel]

you wouldn't get it'

[ionic peak]

even wikipedia

[waxen shell]

So that’s why my golf balls are so cold

[wise pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/no-lo-entenderias-joker-smile-smoking-gif-16960029

[soft laurel]

the full picture of it isn't even remotely feasible to the average brain

you need years and years of training(scrolling) to udnerstand even 1% of its meaning

[ionic peak]

gn i gona go sleep or so

[wise pelican]

6 7 is like E from a few years ago

i say a few years ago but it was like 2017

[ionic peak]

or 9 + 10

[soft laurel]

"a few years ago"

[waxen shell]

Imagine 2067

[wise pelican]

do not compare mortals to gods among men

[waxen shell]

In 2077 what makes you a criminal, getting caught

So tuff

[wise pelican]

im unc bro i just turned 25

[soft laurel]

kids born in 2067 will be generation sigma.... let that sink in....

[waxen shell]

Holy unc

[ionic peak]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-9-plus-10-meme-9-plus-10-21-gif-7165493765559269828

[waxen shell]

17

[ionic peak]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-jawline-rizz-rizz-face-sigma-gif-15344650371968005580

[soft laurel]

bro don't you have a bingo tournament to go to 😭🙏

[ionic peak]

nah 12

[wise pelican]

same aura

[soft laurel]

14 final answer

[soft laurel]

bf2042?

[wise pelican]

bro......

[waxen shell]

9 + 10, 910.. Porsche made the memes to sell more automobile

[ionic peak]

ghost?

[wise pelican]

bf3

[soft laurel]

ah

[ionic peak]

from vrom

[waxen shell]

911 is a beetle in running shoes says Jeremy Clarkson

He owns a farm

[ionic peak]

tought of the white smoke and oranges

[void bronze]

CLARKSON

[wise pelican]

9 + 10? the new york financier?

[soft laurel]

has the explosion expert community given their opinion yet

[waxen shell]

What is this diddy blud doing on the calculator

[soft laurel]

IS BLUD EINSTEIN

[waxen shell]

Is blud einstein?

[wise pelican]

no they are installing java minecraft onto phones

[waxen shell]

Uinnie we should make poetry together

[soft laurel]

what is he typin into the calculator? does he think he's doing something smart?? let's see wha thte fianl result is! it's mustard blud diddly einstein 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

[waxen shell]

Nerd chat

[soft laurel]

fax ongurt frfr so real twin ✌️

[wise pelican]

how he got shaders tho

[waxen shell]

Gaming phone

[soft laurel]

POJAV LAUNCHER MENTIONED

[waxen shell]

Redmagic 5

[soft laurel]

they've already come out with magic 5?

alert the harry potter community

[wise pelican]

they come out with sleep 2 and sleep 3

[soft laurel]

I don't even need the first one, why would they do that

[soft laurel]

EW

[waxen shell]

Ts is so niche!!

Cream cheese bagel???

[void bronze]

I prefer sleep 3

[soft laurel]

why would anyone choose to sleep

[wise pelican]

toasted cream cheese bagel

[soft laurel]

everybody's like six seven and I'm just like.... cream cheese bagel?? 😂

[waxen shell]

Sleep is 4 nerds

[forest lotus]

[wise pelican]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVdLJWWBa8M

[forest lotus]

Gotta love somehow getting ptm7950 to pump out

[wise pelican]

put a peerless assassin on it and call it a day

[soft laurel]

try turning it off and on again

[forest lotus]

It's a laptop..

[wise pelican]

to answer your question, the l and R driver shouldnt share a common negative

[wise pelican]

did i stutter gamer

[soft laurel]

whar

[soft laurel]

how come 😳

I checked with two ai's if my wiring was correct

dirty lying clankers 🤬

[wise pelican]

could cause issues

[steel umbra]

where did you buy it

[wise pelican]

like the l and r driver blowin up

[wise pelican]

what models

[soft laurel]

like the second latest version of chatgpt and claude

I love ai 😋

[wise pelican]

hmmm do you have the manual

[soft laurel]

to what

[wise pelican]

the board

if it says common ground input explicitly should be fine

but

[soft laurel]

I don't believe it has a manual

[wise pelican]

if not, nuclear explosion

is there like an online pdf of the diagram or smth

whats the exact board

[steel umbra]

guys is this fair matchup?

[soft laurel]

www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803292761338

sketchy aliexpress link

why no embed

[wise pelican]

i love living in korea dog i cant read ts

[steel umbra]

it’s aliexpress us

[soft laurel]

It had a ton of bloat so I tried to shorten it but then it didn’t embed

[wise pelican]

did u already buy it

[soft laurel]

Yes. It is on my desk

[forest lotus]

Ltt

[steel umbra]

buy a viscous high performance paste and see if it pumps out

[soft laurel]

I copied mostly everything from this Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/s/VbSU9JKHWX

At least as much as I could

I believe I used the same components

[forest lotus]

I'm gonna go to LM and get it that way.

It's an HX series CPU it's hot as fuck to cool

[pulsar root]

What are the most hyper realistic games right now ? Where it’s hard to distinguish if it’s real life or a game

[wise pelican]

Solution to nvidia gpu crisis

[stable beacon]

even ddr4 is expensive af 😭 i dont even have that many tabs open

[cosmic idol]

I might be dumb but is that windows 7

[swift stream]

looks more like ten with shield icon but task manager ui resembles windows 7

[cosmic idol]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking

[void bronze]

imagine prebuilts just start being shipped out wihout ram

[cosmic idol]

Atp they’re just gonna make prebuilt pcs barebones

[empty quartz]

:3

[stable beacon]

windows 11 i used winaero tweaker or some shell app to use the og task manager

you can tell by the window outline, windows 7 has the aero buttons

peak era of windows btw

[ashen ridge]

hi

[stable beacon]

the difference between 10 and 11 is that 11 has curved edges

[orchid trellis]

I dont know if i want to stay on apple or switch back to android.

[cosmic idol]

Sweet

[nova sparrow]

I just got my artisan pad in... I should be top kovax scores now right?

G Pro Light + Art pad = top 10 in the world or something like that?

[wheat torrent]

LETS GO

finally they fixed this goofy ass shit

[swift stream]

is there really any major difference in b850 and X870 chipsets?

[wheat torrent]

price

[solar moat]

if board has what you need dose not matter what chipset

[wheat torrent]

also wifi 7 mandatory on x870

sometimes VRMs better on x870 thus maybe better overclocking

mandatory pcie 5.0 on x870 (useless)

[solar moat]

nothing to do with chipset full down to the board

[wheat torrent]

oh right chipset

[solar moat]

there some b650 buget that better with ram oc vs x870e boards

[wheat torrent]

I have no idea why anyone would buy a motherboard that is expensive unless they need a specific feature on that motherboard

[void bronze]

because why not

[solar moat]

there been times users did not lissen to my advice then get a worse board that costs more due to chipset

[pine palm]

TF

why is the start menu like this

[rose stream]

Windows 11 with all defaults?

[pine palm]

yup

wasnt like this before though

i updated it and now its this

[rose stream]

Oh, then that's completely normal (to me) then.

[pine palm]

the list was seperate for me

the whole thing was only pinned and new items

why did they bring the list here

[spring latch]

my dads pc is now mine =]

[void bronze]

i have the same taskbar

on windows :D

[wheat torrent]

google 67

[azure topaz]

why

[wheat torrent]

easteregg

this is so goofy

[azure topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/i-be-profen-gif-9435864923799777590

[wheat torrent]

my friends reaction

I can't believe they added this

[swift stream]

decided to the ASUS ROG Strix B850-A over the X870-A due to price difference and features not mandatory, B850-A alr has wifi 7 and pcie 5.0. Only thing X870 excels at is USB4 and dual PCIE

[solar moat]

duel pcie?

[swift stream]

X870-A has 2 5.0 pcie m.2 lanes instead of one

so faster transfer

[solar moat]

the seocnd pcie slot is only gen4x4

and do you realy need 4 m.2 slots

[wheat torrent]

isnt 5.0 m2 also useless for most

[solar moat]

and also one of them cuts main pcie slot down to only x8

[solar moat]

yes

[swift stream]

X870-A has 2 5.0 pcie m.2 lanes, and

[solar moat]

if you use both the pcie gen5 m.2 slot main x16 slot only runs at x8

[swift stream]

double the speed over gen 4 but doesn't matter unless you need mega fats transfers across multiple m2's

[wheat torrent]

on b650 you can get mobos with

• pcie m2 gen5x4
• m2 gen4x5 and
• m2 gen4x2

[swift stream]

i only got the ROG strix B850-A because of its color and it was on sale for 190 USD (which is honestly pretty good)

[wheat torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-sassy-cat-cat-shooing-you-away-el-gato-gif-27281307

[solar moat]

not shocking

[swift stream]

here were the specs for it

[swift stream]

i mean ROG strix B850-A does come with 14 + 2 + 2 VRM

only went with asus because i didn't wanna be fcked by gigabyte again

[wheat torrent]

you dont want to get fucked by asus

[solar moat]

is that a lie?

[solar moat]

only can do 8 phases on that controler

so its 7 phase i gessing

[slim sparrow]

Hey? Is anyone aware of why gigabytes pcie wifi7 drivers are just, non existent?

They were there yesterday

And ive been trying to figure this our for hours now

[sharp lance]

I was unplugging it from backing it up and dropped it…

Thank god i had just backed up all the data off it

[misty mauve]

Have you guys heard the spanish version of hotel california by gipsy kings

[solar moat]

nope

[misty mauve]

:(

[sharp lance]

Fucking head crashes

Time to hope it doesn’t shred its self to peices after i moved the r/w heads to the standby spot

Shes dead

That scratching noise makes me cringe

[south arrow]

Happens fams, thats roughs

[sharp lance]

atleast everything important got backed up

couldnt have killed it at a better time

[south arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-data-recovery-gif-11606438

[sharp lance]

fr

gotta sprinkle the platter dust in as well

[sharp lance]

the drive also had 60k hours on it so it was due for a replacement

[swift raven]

should i get a qhd 144hz monitor over a 240 fps fhd monitor for gaming? i’m stuck because feeling higher frame rates would help in competitive play but the resolution upgrade i’ve heard is very good

[sharp lance]

refresh rate over res for fps games

[south arrow]

Definetly was getting up there in hours sheesh

[sharp lance]

yeah

[high elm]

your gonna get fucked by asus sooner or later

my Strix Z790-A has been with them for almost a whole year

everytime it comes back it 💥 itself within a few days

[south arrow]

Only painnn

[swift raven]

i figured tbh

[steel umbra]

if anyone is interested epic is giving away hogwarts legacy “for free”
last chance to snag it

[south arrow]

I also grabbed that one for the collection, one of these days gonna give it a shot. I liked the older titles (gba sp, ps2 etc)

[swift stream]

gigabyte sent me a board with pre bent socket pins, i did get a return and MSI was going good until the bios chip started to get drunk

[thin bloom]

Idk if this should be in #1027757333117415424 but should I make the slot for a case as exhaust or intake? I original hade it as an intake then flipped it and a couple of days ago i removed it, now stored it in the bottom of the case. Now I'm getting more air out of the ass and I see some small temps difs with bad cpu paste. I'm going to upgrade to a thermalright phantom spirit 120 SE rgb model cooler

If I make the top front fan intake I can't have it fully srew down because the case is damaged so it causes the fan to hit the case and make noise. If I remember right it happened at low speeds?

[lone ginkgo]

chat i have a serious question. if my cpu has integrated graphics like radeon graphics built in, can i still put a graphics card into my pc build?

[void bronze]

Yes

[formal sonnet]

Absolutely. You would just connect your monitor to the GPU instead of the video output on the motherboard.

[lone ginkgo]

kk

[unique tapir]

Is $17.50 a month bad for unlimited data cell wise

Through a major provider

[south arrow]

If it works ya know

[formal sonnet]

Assuming that price is USD, that's just over half what I pay for 50GB...

[unique tapir]

Google Fi

[tulip sparrow]

https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/nvidia-plans-heavy-cuts-to-gpu-supply-in-early-2026/

[lone ginkgo]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nj8myW

how does my build look?

[cold skiff]

Imagine one of the top 3, if not the top richest company saying they can’t afford to create products…

[tired bear]

is not that they cannot afford to make them, its the consumers fault for not being able to afford them

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-principal-skinner-skinner-children-out-of-touch-gif-4463952

[cold skiff]

They can’t afford to make them. They can afford to make AI.

[balmy tapir]

id guess theyre cutting back on gaming cards to make AI cards

[cold skiff]

If only we had a saviour that could make more memory chips

I might start stocking motherboards. PCBs will sky rocket next from a shortage

[valid fiber]

i still think toilet paper is the currency of the future

[south arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/hercules-its-gonna-be-big-nudge-gif-17863277743962472375

[tulip sparrow]

Love that movie

[south arrow]

It is a good one

[thin bloom]

Now I think of it. It be best to have it as air intake since it be blowing air directly onto the coolers intake fan

[bronze summit]

what is fg?

[static gorge]

its that time of year. Happened last christmas break I had with 2 drives, now its this christmas break with one drive

[random gyro]

sup

[cold skiff]

New hard drive to buy before the next shortage

[static gorge]

I have 5 spares sitting in my room

Raid Z2 with 6x 2TB HDDs

and then I have 6 more sitting in my office at work

but I'm thinking about switching it up as I got 8x 8TB HDDs essentially for free

and cant decide if i wanna do a RaidZ1 with 3x 8TB drives or a mirror with 4x 8tb drives

[wheat torrent]

Tempting

12 buttonsss

[void bronze]

that looks

[static gorge]

Why get that mouse when you can get this even better mouse I got from work

[void bronze]

what the hell

[wheat torrent]

Wtf

[static gorge]

stunlocked you guys

[wheat torrent]

There is no way you're using that

[static gorge]

i am not but it does work

[wheat torrent]

Holy

[wise quarry]

Hello, would a gaming PC be useful for hosting a db that many computers will read and write to. Additionally, also for file transfer. https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1451071591768264907 ?

[static gorge]

it was going to go to ewaste

so I grabbed it just for the cool factor

[modern venture]

Anyone know a great airflow case that I can put a 2 fan AIO in?

[cold skiff]

Any metal box that flows front to back (not fish tank)

[opal gust]

i like the nzxt H5 but it’s kind of bulky

[modern venture]

Thoughts on the lian li mini v2?

[cold skiff]

It’s a metal box

It also has glass

[pure copper]

I have a situation rn and idrk what to do

[modern venture]

This guys opinions are pretty strong

[cold skiff]

It’s a fish tank case

[pure copper]

I have an 8 pin cpu power connector and 3 8 pin connectors on my psu. but the provided power cable with my psu is an 8pin and 4+4 pin which the 4+4 has no ability to plug in anywhere

[high elm]

metal boxes are overrated

[cold skiff]

You can put 9 case fans in it

[cold skiff]

Cable management is also over rated

[modern venture]

Need like 20 fans with my 12900k

[high elm]

yea honestly cable management is so yesterday

[modern venture]

20 fan AIO

[pure copper]

the cpu cable has a single 8 pin which fits either in the cpu connecter or the psu but the 4+4 fits nowhere

[plain cypress]

I see great potential for a pair of scissors and 2 minutes of time

[grizzled frost]

4+4 is a CPU cable

8pin EPS to be specific

[raw olive]

good morning tech chat
after some health complications and a surgery and a lot of medicine I'm having a baby
well we are having a baby not me just I can't do it on my own I'm so happy I just can't shut up about it

[pure copper]

okay but the shapes do not line up

thats the issue

[cold skiff]

What’s your psu

[high elm]

you have a baby in you?

[modern venture]

Buy me a new case to express your happiness

[grizzled frost]

what model of motherbaord, what model of PSU

[raw olive]

no not me my wife does

[pure copper]

asrock sl-650G and a gigabyte b650m gaming plus wifi

[cold skiff]

Saying I’m pregnant as a man is hilarious tbh

[high elm]

if theres a baby inside her she should get it checked out tbh

[raw olive]

hey I never said that

[high elm]

but congrats lmao

[cold skiff]

“We are pregnant” enjoy saying it turk

[raw olive]

got that done got all the blood tests done everything is normal everything is perfect zero issues

thank you guys

[cold skiff]

Everything is normal until they start growing up

[raw olive]

little guy even has a heartbeat man

[cold skiff]

It’s an amazing thing to hear

[south arrow]

Much grats you guys take some time to recover and hopefully heal with haste

[raw olive]

size of health and olive and got a beating heart

[pure copper]

@grizzled frost

[modern venture]

Havn BF360 takes the chair for the best case for airflow I guess

[raw olive]

my depression is gone God gave me strength I'm a happy man now

thank you guys for all your kind words man I just wanted to share it with you guys I'm so happy

[cold skiff]

https://www.asrock.com/Power-Supply/SteelLegend/SL-650G/ this says you have 2x 4+4 pins

Well not 2x. 1 cable with 2x 4+4 connectors

So you cannot confuse it with 6+2

If it isn’t lining up, rotate your connector on the 4+4 you’ve got it the wrong way round

[cold skiff]

Yeah the 4+4

The 8 pin will be for your gpu side

[modern venture]

Fun weekend idea, go look at ram prices at your local microcenter

[pure copper]

I dont know what gpu side means 😭

[raw olive]

im so ready for the baby i even raised the car its not slammed anymore
and i quit smoking the second i found out

I don't want to smell like cigarettes to the baby

[pure copper]

this is the cpu connection on my motherboard, there are 4 square pins and 4 angled pins, the 4+4 only has 2 square pins

both 4+4

[raw olive]

man I've been so so away from computer stuff
I found out about the RAM prices yesterday God damn

[cold skiff]

Psu sorry

[spice tree]

hello! i have a 5800x, a gigabyte x570, and a nzxt AIO (two fans). my cpu temps while running valorant (which shouldnt be that bad) is 90 degrees celsius, which im aware is the max before thermal throttling. I've just changed the thermal paste, fixed my exhaust fans (before they were inverted -> yes im stupid)

does anyone know how to fix this?

[cold skiff]

Get a new aio

Pump is dead or too much water permeated

[spice tree]

yea i checked that too, but apparently if one of the tubes is hot and the other is normal, then it should be working?

[spice tree]

is this not correct? idk kinda read it off google somewhere

[pure copper]

oh okay, still the same issue though the 4+4 only has 2 square pins and the connection has 4

[spice tree]

not even in a game, idk why its doing this : (

[high elm]

just check pump rpm in software

and hold your hand to the pump

to check if its even vibrating == spinning

[cold skiff]

Just touch the pipes

[spice tree]

yea it says 3000 rpm for pump

touched the pipes as well, one is warm the other one isnt cool, but it isnt hot either

just normal room temp

[high elm]

is the radiator hot

[spice tree]

uh its pushing out cool air?

radiator is mounted on top of my case

[high elm]

the thing is right if the pump is dead the heat from the cpu still gets to the water

so realistically yeah the water would still get hot

or did you try overclocking and set a ridiculous voltage

[spice tree]

no no its actually undervolted right now

or in "eco mode", i followed a random reddit thread

told me to set my ppt -> 88, tdc -> 60, edc -> 90

it should "replicate AMD 65W eco mode" on a 5800x

[cold skiff]

Wait you repasted

Is it mounted fully?

I still think it’s dead but worth checking

[feral stream]

Dude, just seemed upset that he couldn’t afford one throughout the entire review

[spice tree]

wdym? ive made sure the screws are all the way in, yea.

for further context: ive had my pc for coming up on 5 years now

[cold skiff]

Yeah the aio is dead

Get a new one is the solution. It had a good run.

[spice tree]

: (

[cold skiff]

Likely gunked up on the block or lost too much water now if the pump still runs.

5 years in AIO years is like 70 in people years. It did you proud my friend

[pure copper]

@cold skiff if I just plug the 4+4 with the clips facing the right way would it work that way

[cold skiff]

Well it should. I’m confused why your 8 pin cpu doesn’t have the shaped slots tbh

[pure copper]

it does

[cold skiff]

Sure it’s a gigabyte board and not an Ali express or Temu job?

[pure copper]

hold on let me draw it out

[cold skiff]

Ah just me looking at my phone. I zoomed and see now

[pure copper]

I got it off newegg from the pc partpicker website

[pure copper]

okay

[cold skiff]

It will fit perfectly orientated the correct way when you clip the 4+4 together

[buoyant bridge]

OG fortnite dancing

[pure copper]

so just ignore the shapes 😭

[cold skiff]

No the shapes will fit perfectly

If they don’t I dunno what to tell ya

You’re doing something wrong. They’re the only 4+4 pins in ya box

[pure copper]

ill try and ill try seeing if it will post because thats the last thing I need to be able to turn it on

I dont have a gpu rn but my cpu has integrated graphics

[ebon marlin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1188974475727880203/1197593816417456268/382D0865-550B-4F13-B031-18D6E90F03BC.gif

[pure copper]

I tried putting the 4+4 in the connector and it didnt work

it doesnt fit

I dont know how I would be doing anything wrong unless theres 2 cpu connections on the motherboard that I dont know of with a different pin orientation

the one im trying is at the top left of the board if that means anything

this is on the manual im not really sure what it means

theyre very vague

[south arrow]

Can press the 2 "4" pins together to go into the cpu slot into the motherboard

After seeing your mobo and the cables they are slotted to fit

Just be sure they are facing clip side up, to clip into the motherboard slot*

(They are separated as 4 pins as some motherboards have an additional 4-8 pin secondary cpu slot for overclocking)

[solar moat]

what cpu uses more then 300W the 8pin EPS do

[sinful cobalt]

14900KS

unlock that shit

[real quiver]

Imagine drawing more than like 25w

[south arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-gif-7187778

[static gorge]

and now we wait...

[pure copper]

they dont go in though

or maybe my hands are just too big to get a good push on them with it in the case

[south arrow]

Can guide with your fingers and apply down with a butter knife on the plastic casing in-between the slots (psu unplugged ofc and off)

[pure copper]

I was talking to chatgpt for like an hour and it said rhe same thing but it said I shouldnt take the mobo out to not bend any headers

[pure copper]

like between the wires?

[south arrow]

For sanity you can take it out, just be careful not to bump it into anything

[south arrow]

Just on the plastic housing of the cable

Anywhere that you can press down easier then ones fingers*

Just be controlled to not slip and damage the board

[pure copper]

ill have to try that tomorrow ive had my fix for the night

[south arrow]

Thats fair just note the 4 pin cables will only fit in 1 position (with the circle slot facing inward to line up with the motherboard circle slot)

[pure copper]

cut my knuckle on my air cooler too 💔🥀

[south arrow]

Itll getcha lots of sharp edges when building sometimes

[pure copper]

I mean with the clips theres really only one way to put it in no

[south arrow]

Yeah

[pure copper]

also mine do not clip together they are just side by side so it makes it a little harder

[south arrow]

Happens sometimes they dont like to click together, well stay clicked anyways

[pure copper]

I was able to get them in the slots I just couldnt get enough pressure on them to click in I guess

[south arrow]

You got this just take your time

[random gyro]

sup

[pure copper]

thank you

[random gyro]

just got done with a almost 2 hr Fallen Order session

[south arrow]

Get ettt skitzz

[random gyro]

i just got to planet Dathomir

so basically 3 planets left

and received my double lightsaber on kashyyyk

[south arrow]

Think I heard rumor there was a new star wars game in the works to i believe

[random gyro]

wasn't there one announced at the game awards?

[south arrow]

Sounds right, I recently beat knights of the old republic 1 and 2 solid playthroughs

[south arrow]

Im hoping it carrys the old themes open world free choice

[hoary agate]

what are the disadvantages of blower cards compared to a triple fan card
Because it’s like $50 cheaper to get a blower card, but I’m worried about noise and heat

[ebon marlin]

Blower cards are loud as shit

[south arrow]

The 4080s msi expert was a peach sub %60 fan speeds quiet as can be

But 70%+ it was a mini jet

[hoary agate]

yeah so im wondering if i should spend that extra $50 for a triple fan card

[random gyro]

hopefully

[peak swan]

A usb 2.0 port made to-spec supplies 2.5w, 3.0 bumping it up to 4.5w
Don't charge your phone from your computer, as it will be insanely slow

[golden sage]

i think this is like the computer version of having a freezing cold drink at 3AM

[static gorge]

pc got a bit toasty

from... minecraft

[peak swan]

Eh, not the worst

[peak swan]

Did you turn on 16k shaders?

[inner veldt]

Guys, theres a deal occurred for MSI Suprim 5090 and its cheaper than my Astral 5090 White, I actually like Astral but I abused it by plugging and unplugging so much. Should I return or sell this and get the Suprim brand new instead?

[static gorge]

distant horizons, set to level 5 "I paid for the whole cpu" world generation, shaders, and 64 chunk distance

didnt think it would get so hot

[peak swan]

I mean
I got 1.21.10 to do 20fps (vanilla)

On a laptop from 08

On 32 bit windows

[static gorge]

I was getting decent fps, I think like 200+ with all that going on

just got a bit hot

[peak swan]

I bet with sodium and running on linux, it would be like over 60fps

GeForce 9300M is the gpu

Amd cpu is a core 2 duo t58xx (forgot the exact cpu), and 3gb of ddr2

[static gorge]

a whole 3gb of ddr2?

[peak swan]

I mean i might be able to do 4gb

If that ram stick i have isn't dead

But it probably is

Because didn't work in 1 laptop already

And i noticed has suspicious white stuff on it

Plus it's dirty as fuck

And no sticker either, just blue permanent marker saying it's ddr2 and 2gb

[charred hare]

https://techcrunch.com/2025/12/17/adobe-hit-with-proposed-class-action-accused-of-misusing-authors-work-in-ai-training/

[peak swan]

Adobe suckss

[charred hare]

I miss using CreativeSuite way more than CreativeCloud

[peak swan]

I miss using Adobe flash

Like i unknowingly played flash games right before flash was murdered

[cold skiff]

Did you enjoy the virii that came with it too?

[peak swan]

The what?

[cold skiff]

Virii

[peak swan]

What is virii

[cold skiff]

It’s the plural of virus

[peak swan]

Oh viruses

[cold skiff]

Flash was dead easy to create too, even a numpty like me could do it

[peak swan]

Actually, what's the pural of 'it' ?

[cold skiff]

It’s / it is

Not really a plural

I guess you have to say them or they

[peak swan]

I mean it's the school pc i played on so like
Teacher's pc at that
And on the teacher's user acc lol

[cold skiff]

I hope they had no end of problems

Flash was okay until like 2002 that’s when it really started to get exploited

[peak swan]

Yeah, cuz i was like "weird calling an object 'they'"
Like cuz i said a sentence like "they don't do shit" when referring to the brakes on my bike

And it felt wrong but i guess it's fine

[patent escarp]

my games keep going into 60hz on my monitor when i go full screen pls someone help

[vale lotus]

Anyone got recommendations for electric screwdriver

[thin bloom]

I hate the look of this and I can't have the fan fully screwed down because I dented the case were I am rubbing my finger at but if it's the path to better air flow oh well then

[timber elk]

hehehe js some manim

[thin bloom]

You can see the dent better in this image. It's crazy how hard I hit the case to cause that dent

[ebon marlin]

I wouldn't personally

[trim mason]

wsp

[charred hare]

And then Adobe Systems acquired Macromedia in 2005 which included FutureWave Software's FutureSplash (later as Macromedia Flash) MacroMind Shockwave, Macromedia DreamWeaver, Allaire ColdFusion, Macromedia Fireworks, Altsys/Aldus Freehand, and Macromedia Authorware.

In partnership with MTV, Macromedia launched shockwave.com in May 1999, to promote the capabilities of both Flash & Shockwave.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/adobe-fireflys-news-ai-editing-tools-video-editor-prompting/

[tacit wave]

What are some great budget phones rn?

[azure topaz]

those are supposed to be moving

[thin bloom]

They turn off at idle when the cpu hits a certain

[violet pivot]

anyone know if theres been any mention of the ltt labs considering testing fitness trackers? like whoop n samsung watches n apple watches n stuf

[mint umbra]

Can we just delete all ai

Ai was a mistake

[ornate harbor]

Not all

[glossy patio]

PlayStation's finally developing a handheld where you can play your games natively for once... glad to see that they learned from the PlayStation Portal https://x.com/xMBGx/status/2001287712414806466?s=20

MBG (@xMBGx)

Sony's Project Canis.

- A PS6 handheld currently in development that can be docked. Targeting a 2027 release with a relatively affordable price point.

- Will run PS4, PS5 and PS6 games natively, Sony pushing devs to target 60fps at lower resolutions.

- Devs currently have

X · Dec 17, 2025, 1:45 PM

[viscid helm]

I used completely shutdown Xbox

Yet its using 33watts for no reason 🧐

Very weird

[bold laurel]

what do you guys think about Acces database?

[mint umbra]

Prob will be like 600 dollars

[viscid helm]

maybe 480 to 720p natively and upscaled to higher

just a guess

[glossy patio]

If it has a good amount of storage (closer to 1 TB), then it shouldn't be that bad. It would be close to price competitive with the 1 TB Steam Deck

[mint umbra]

I think it will be much more than steam deck

Steam deck Hardwear is rather weak

Will prob be closer to Asus ally in pricing

[thin bloom]

What xbox?

[viscid helm]

sx

[thin bloom]

Is there anything plugged into the usb ports?

[ornate harbor]

33W aint much

[viscid helm]

yes, an external HDD, it's light is on

[viscid helm]

but it says it should be 0

maybe that HDD and some settings is the reason

[thin bloom]

That what be probably drawing 33 wats. 12 power to it then 12 more volts go to some where on the board and probably 9 volts to the brain of the Xbox

[left dove]

thats not how power calcs work lol

and.. no the "brain" isn't getting 9v

if the ext hdd is spinning at speed it's gonna be drawing like, 15w max

more than likely the console also has a "deep standby" function

also, watts aren't volts

w = v*a

12 volts times 2 amps is 24 watts

[simple palm]

just great!

[left dove]

Instead of listening to people at face value, go google what he said to make sure he isn't overplaying the situation like most idiots do

[golden sage]

Guys, if XMP/EXPO only sets primaries why are they called "high performance" ?

couldnt someone just purchase a kit regardless if its amd/intel aslong if its on QVL and set primaries and voltage by themselves if its a good chip?

[left dove]

If your tp-link device is updated and you aren't an idiot on the internet, it's not going to get hijacked or whatever.

I have so much tp-link stuff and nothing is part of a botnet lmao

[simple palm]

yeah, there aren't any skilled people here anyways

[left dove]

That's.. false lmao

[simple palm]

another reason of this router is to use WDS feature, so that I can share my mobile's internet via hotspot to this router

Mobile's Hotspot -> Router -> LAN/WiFi devices

[left dove]

yeah my portable router does that

[viscid helm]

very accurate, I disconnected it and the console was drawing 8watts

[viscid helm]

it was close (the 9W for console alone)

[simple palm]

I just came to realize it maybe due to design that router never gets connected to the internet, and the stability sucks, sometimes internet doesn't even work

[viscid helm]

but overall, it was more than what was here

[simple palm]

Here, Mukesh Ambani is struggling with Elon Musk and soon internet is going to get way more cheap in India

[viscid helm]

in this mode, it's still using 33W, no 0.5W if HDD is connected

[golden palm]

Guys
Lenovo Loq with i5 13450X and 5060 for 1000€ worth it or not?

[thin bloom]

Idk a lot about electricity but I tried my best

[wheat torrent]

I want to order this Chinese mouse but worried about spyware ahh

[ebon marlin]

Nah

[wheat torrent]

Worth depends on your region

Local market

[ebon marlin]

Atleast here in Finland you can get used 4070 laptops as low as 800€

[high elm]

do they really want your mouse movement data

[ebon marlin]

5070 laptops for 1200€ could easily bargain em for 1000€

[wheat torrent]

I mean drivers

The software

[dense marten]

what size of computer is this, like atx or what?

[night delta]

Mid tower atx

[thorny saddle]

thats an atx board

[dense marten]

ok

[devout quarry]

hi all

[wheat torrent]

No

[devout quarry]

huh?

[wheat torrent]

No

[devout quarry]

i dont understand in what context do you mean no?

[wheat torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/you-wo-joker-joaqu-gif-23924191

[devout quarry]

ok

[wheat torrent]

This is so Jolly

[devout quarry]

indeed

[wheat torrent]

No its not

[bold laurel]

what should i use for a homepage on my server?

[ebon marlin]

Fortnite is now 163gb in file size lmao

[wheat torrent]

What?

[bold laurel]

Also known as a homepage

i mean dashboard sorry

[scarlet tartan]

They wanted to be like COD.

[ebon marlin]

Even CoD takes less space

[wheat torrent]

I just saw someone with an apple logo on their thinkpad

[robust hull]

162GB skins, 1GB actual game

[royal loom]

My current build got 16gb of ram and Asus prime Rtx 5060 ti oc 8gb and an Ryzen 5 5600, I'm planing to upgrade the motherboard and and the CPU to an Ryzen 7 5700x and to add another 16gb ddr4 ram stick
This a good idea? (Got an MSI mag a650bn)

[grizzled frost]

Why would you upgrade from one AM4 motherboard to another?

[left dove]

[ebon marlin]

5600 to 5700x is such a nothingburger upgrade you're gonna end up with the same performance as b4

Upgrading from one am4 Mobo to another am4 mobo is also pointless

[grizzled frost]

25% uplift in multithread, 4% in single thread

[ebon marlin]

In synthetic benchmarks yes the 25% multithread uplift will be pointless if you're not running programs which require good multithread performance

[grizzled frost]

Single thread performance is far more relevant for gaming, which as stated is rather minor

[wheat torrent]

I love my 7900

All cores are being used

The only game I even play nowadays is Minecraft

And it uses all cores to the fullest extent

[ebon marlin]

Are you using chunky to load a shitton of chunks or what

As Minecraft is primarily a single threaded game

[flat cliff]

Two things I don't own a fold but really want one, what the difference between the 10 fold and the 9 fold? Secondly if I do upgrade to the 10 from the 7 will my already poor emulation performance be even worse? Like I can't emulate switch (sadly) but like the ps2 and Wii and somewhat amount of the total amount of playable ps3 games are they all like not going to work if I upgrade to the 10 series?

I run GraphneOS and am not going to not so I can't just buy a gaming phone instead.

[craggy cove]

supposedly a few months old, got it for 69€ shipped

a sidegrade to my oneplus 10t so ig its going to be an early christmas gift to my brother

(his screen glue just gave up this week for whatever reason)

• his redmi note 10 5g is kinda old and janky

[gray copper]

so ive retightened my cpu cooler and still getting 60c in idle

im just gonna get a new cooler

[left dove]

60c is fine wtf

[unique olive]

At idle that’s not fine

[left dove]

fuck you mean

[unique olive]

Unless that’s the hotspot temp

For aio

My pc with aio idles at 40c

[left dove]

what cpu, what cooler

@gray copper

[unique olive]

If I remember right they were hitting thermal throttle almost immediately under load which isn’t normal for aio

[cosmic idol]

If it’s not thermal throttling under load I see no issue, technically

[unique olive]

Basic wraith is what i see in previous messages and the cpu is ryzen 5 3600

[gleaming rose]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/17/politics/house-bill-criminalizing-gender-affirming-care-minors
this country is cooked bro

[unique olive]

So not aio guess that was someone else

Still something ain’t making proper contact but that’s not terrible if your in a hot environment

[unique olive]

Keep the politics out please

[gleaming rose]

eh

[cosmic idol]

Look I agree
But idk if it should be posted here lol

[gleaming rose]

I don't think the mods actually care as long as people don't fight

[cosmic idol]

Plus
TC1
Let’s talk about tech stuff

[gleaming rose]

I can tell you joined this year lmao

[unique olive]

It shouldn’t be here we are here to talk about tech not about the good things happening in the world

[left dove]

okay lets break it down

MTG got this floor time as part of a deal to drop some other stupid shit.

she's just trying to do literally whatever to be a menace at this rate. In now way would it make it to law that it's a felony to medically assist in GAC for minors

[gleaming rose]

yeah I know it's not the end of the story but it's a bad omen

[cosmic idol]

okay…?

[unique olive]

My opinion differs drastically

[left dove]

its MTG lmao she's like 99% hot gas

[robust hull]

please dont talk about politics here

[gleaming rose]

did I misread this

[robust hull]

[gleaming rose]

I hope I did

[cosmic idol]

“Grr why no politics”
Gee I wonder

[left dove]

all yall need to chill lmao

[gleaming rose]

well whatever there's no need for discussion thought I would just share it

[unique olive]

Maybe maybe not it’s a joke that nothing good is happening with tech as ai fucks us but also I thinly veiled mention of my opinion on the matter you decided to bring up

[robust hull]

maybe AI can post slop for me

[gleaming rose]

ai really is going to be the bane of us all

or at least the Internet

[cosmic idol]

Appreciate you sharing
And yeah, it’s cooked

[unique olive]

I just hope they invest a shit ton into the power grid so when ai collapses we will atleast get cheaper power

[robust hull]

the human internet will be a long memory

[odd marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-dunk-lebron-james-levronjame-gif-1038771198631298897

[cosmic idol]

I’ll try to be yes

[robust hull]

"made withou AI"

certified AI free

these will be labes in the future

like the vegan of the tech world

[gray copper]

ryzen 5 3600 stock wraith cooler

[sinful garden]

hi guys, i need Help with replacing cpu and mobo, Text me If someone wants to help, i need help by Doing the Windows and more!

[left dove]

ok yeah get like a peerless assassin or w/e its called

[gray copper]

yeah i will

[cosmic idol]

Thermalright peerless assassin yes

[cold skiff]

This is like a dating ad only worse…

[left dove]

#1106613567966429224

[sinful garden]

i have intel I5 and a random mobo, and ive upgraded to ryzen 5 5500 and B550 aorus elite

[cosmic idol]

good budget cooler
I run it with my 5600
It’s plenty for me

[left dove]

"yaes hyello pls text am hepl need"

[sinful garden]

thanks

[cosmic idol]

[cold skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/borat-borat-very-nice-verynice-thumbs-up-gif-25080066

[cosmic idol]

Everything funny rn

[left dove]

MMYAES

I do not regret waking up at 1 am for this fuckin storm

[unique olive]

Fuck I should watch “The Dictator” again

[left dove]

same

[cosmic idol]

I love storms

[cold skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/h2di-the-dictator-get-rid-of-them-gif-18098336538190803328

[left dove]

dude its pissing inches of rain

[odd marsh]

quite the way to say it

[cosmic idol]

oh wow
Yeah my house wouldn’t handle that lmao

[unique olive]

1 inch is a lot some say even to much

[left dove]

flash amounts up to 2"

[cosmic idol]

like
A “decent” storm here
Whole yard flooded

[left dove]

is NUTTY

[cosmic idol]

[stray portal]

30 year old btw 💔

Grown man saying ts

[cosmic idol]

huh

Who tf you talking about

oh boy I had a stroke reading that bio

[little vigil]

chat im going from r5 5600 to a i5 13400f

[unique olive]

boomer

[cosmic idol]

That’s not a massive upgrade ngl

from memory

[little vigil]

its like almost double the single core performance

[cosmic idol]

really!?
Dayum

[little vigil]

from 530 on cpu z to like 850

yea and more threads and stuff

[rigid fjord]

only a numpty would call the wrong gen a boomer

[left dove]

We all know lol

[little vigil]

multithreaded is also like 2x from 4500 to almost 9000

[cosmic idol]

LOL fr
I just like acting dumb
Considering they do the same 😭

[little vigil]

i have the cpu just lying around i just need to spend like 180 aud to get a decent mobo

[unique olive]

wtf is a numpty but also I just call everyone older than me boomers it’s surprisingly effective rage bait

[cosmic idol]

Ooo fellow Aussie

[rigid fjord]

it really isn't, it's basically a 12400f/12600 relabelled

[little vigil]

it literally is a massive upgrade from a r5 5600

and its just not lmao

[stray portal]

You must have problems

[cosmic idol]

yeah I figured
Cos from memory 12400f and r5 5600 were pretty similar
And 13400f wouldn’t be a massive upgrade over 12400f

[cosmic idol]

Not really

[left dove]

Honestly half the time I picture bill from l4d saying it

[little vigil]

its 6c 12t to 10c 16t

and higher clocks

[cold skiff]

Just ignore him. He’s uh… unique…

[unique olive]

Oh never heard it before but as a professional rtard I will condone its use

[little vigil]

more l3 aswell

when i do get the mother board my r5 5600 is finna be my home server

[rigid fjord]

it's not, the 5600 is the amd's competitve cpu to a 12400f originally, and yes, the 13400f is both an alderlake refresh cpu as well a raptorlake cpu

[cosmic idol]

I figured

[little vigil]

13400f gets double single core of the r5 5600

[rigid fjord]

depending on batch release it can be either chip architecture

[cosmic idol]

Also Hii rauko

[little vigil]

and id rather the i5 13400f cause its newer and wont bottle neck my 3070 ti in some games

[rigid fjord]

also a 14400f is just a 13400f renamed

[little vigil]

well yeh

[rigid fjord]

sup dude

[cosmic idol]

So intel just released the same cpu three times

[stray portal]

Insulting me cuz your old and sad

[cosmic idol]

you’re* 😔

[rigid fjord]

the bottleneck doesn't exist there, and the issue is more the vram amount on the 3070ti

[cosmic idol]

How’s it goin

[little vigil]

i use like 5 gb vram in most my games

[rigid fjord]

yup sadly

[little vigil]

at mose like 7gb

[rigid fjord]

not to bad, you?

the real laugh is the 14900ks @cosmic idol

it's a 13900k v2/3

[little vigil]

intel fucked up with their i9s

[cosmic idol]

Good
Had a bit of grass so im content haha

[rigid fjord]

i7 and i5's also

[little vigil]

eeh i5s not as much

[rigid fjord]

nope, the i5's got a fuck over

[cosmic idol]

A flagship cpu being laughable… is laughable in and of itself

[rigid fjord]

14600k = 13600k just as much as the 14400f = 13400f

[little vigil]

explain lmao

ohh the 14th gen

yeah those were kinda shit but the i5 13th gen werent that bad

i wanna steal my uncles cpu

he has a r9 5900x

[rigid fjord]

most was good til degredation happened

[little vigil]

?

[cosmic idol]

How intel feels after releasing 8 new CPUs using fancy new language and “technology” to sell it
(They all perform the same as the previous generation and they’re all worth as much as a small car)

[little vigil]

u dont wanna see their xeon line ups...

[rigid fjord]

it is, but when the 14900ks is the equivalent of when intel did 14nm+++++++++ for a while, you just gotta .....

[cosmic idol]

nooo but they said it was new technology so it has to be good

If I made CPUs
I’d make good CPUs yeah

[rigid fjord]

newer tech at being a better space heater

[cosmic idol]

and like they’d be better than the last ones

#billyforintelCEO

[little vigil]

we need i9 15900ks trust

[cosmic idol]

Lmao yeh
When are we gonna get pcs that output cooler air than what they draw in

Aircon pc

[rigid fjord]

sadly this will never happen, thermal entropy and such

[cosmic idol]

[rigid fjord]

heat is always a byproduct

[cosmic idol]

Infinite cooling glitch
Just recycled the cool air that comes out the back to the front

[dusky spindle]

overheating and instability king

[little vigil]

@Grok is this real

[rigid fjord]

this is basically what the core ultra 9 285k is

[cosmic idol]

Even air cons in cooling mode produce heat
That heat just so happens to go outside instead of inside

[rigid fjord]

but finally it's a little more power efficient compared to previous i9's

[rigid fjord]

heat is also why a perpetual engine will never work or exist

[cosmic idol]

200w tdp increase for 10% more performance

[dusky spindle]

what do yall think of a ryzen 9 5900xt and 3070ti combo

[little vigil]

yess r9 5900xt

[rigid fjord]

bad due to the gpu

[cosmic idol]

Heat
Sound
Friction
All of the above

Anyone who says infinite/perpetual energy is a thing is silly

[dusky spindle]

tbh kinda yea kinda not

[rigid fjord]

nope, totally a yeah, when you could do 5700x/5800x/5800xt + 3080/4070 instead

[little vigil]

do a i9 14900ks then pair it with a rx 590 8gb

[dusky spindle]

yes give that to your worst friend

[rigid fjord]

dual ccd cpu's suck when it comes to gaming, but if you want a decent gpu to pair with the cpu, you'd want something it can actually push which is why you'd look at a 10/12gb vram gpu minimally

[rigid fjord]

my current setup is a 5600x + rx590

[grizzled frost]

dual ccd cpus are perfectly fine for gaming, as long as you only use a single CCD

[little vigil]

what are even the differences between 5600 and 5600x

[dusky spindle]

vram i think

[rigid fjord]

in which case, you should just buy a single ccd'd cpu

[grizzled frost]

Mhm

[rigid fjord]

a letter

[wheat torrent]

How come they suck

[little vigil]

isnt it like 0.2 ghz

[rigid fjord]

you can get that covered in PBO

[cosmic idol]

Yeah my current 5600 with its settings beats a 5600x in r23 marginally lmao

[wheat torrent]

Because of core allocation?

[little vigil]

i cant i get only like 4.45ghz

[dusky spindle]

oh wait thats a cpu 😭

[little vigil]

idk why my cooling is fine like max 50 c

[rigid fjord]

the schedular and how it swaps between each CCD

[cosmic idol]

Mine sits at 4.7 all day basically

[wheat torrent]

Yeah fair enough

Can't you disable one CCD for gaming?

[little vigil]

idk how to use pbo/overclock ive only really done it on a intel chip and it was a xeon x5670. got it to run at 4.6 ghz

[rigid fjord]

you can but that disables half the cpu, so you're paying twice as much for a single ccd'd cpu of the same coring

[wheat torrent]

Full for productivity half for gaming

[rigid fjord]

my settings that worked for a 3600, and 5600x, it'll also work for the 5600 and can be tuned even more so

[wheat torrent]

Is CCD

[little vigil]

my mobo is kinda of a cheaper one

[wheat torrent]

Numa?

[little vigil]

so idk if it will work at all

[wheat torrent]

Or is numa something else

[rigid fjord]

not afaik

[little vigil]

yo im on my phone ima get into bios and try

[wheat torrent]

Nodes: A NUMA system divides processors and memory into "nodes".

I think numa is for multiple CPUs

[crimson temple]

thats what i do

and its annoying

[wheat torrent]

To some sense 2CCd is 2 cpus in one

[little vigil]

yo where u find pbo in bios i dont see it

[wheat torrent]

What I'm wondering is do 2 CCD perform the same

[crimson temple]

well the ryzen driver does work for most games though

[rigid fjord]

to some extent yes, it can also mean 1ccd is equal to 2+cpu's at once

[wheat torrent]

Like will first ccd have same single threaded performance as the second

[cosmic idol]

What mobo

[wheat torrent]

If you were to run them individually

[rigid fjord]

it'll be under advanced settings

[cosmic idol]

Also you’ll need advanced bios settings on or whatever it is

[dusky spindle]

is there a diff between 240mm and 360mm aios?

[little vigil]

its a msi b550m pro vdh

i can hop on call and turn my camera on

[wheat torrent]

The 9000 cpus use one CCD?

[rigid fjord]

cooling wise, there is some difference

[cosmic idol]

chuck it in google boss

[wheat torrent]

Zen 6 is the one with 2 CCDs if I recall correctly

[little vigil]

it just says enabled already

[rigid fjord]

9600,9600x,9700,9700x,9800x3d are single CCD, above these they're dual CCD

[wheat torrent]

Oooh

[rigid fjord]

you need to change it to manual

[wheat torrent]

Alright I do remember someone with 9900 saying they need to do some core allocation bullshit for games

[little vigil]

change what to manual

[rigid fjord]

like a 9900x = 9600/9600x doubled over

[rigid fjord]

where it says enabled

[wheat torrent]

To make sure cores aren't split

[little vigil]

i cant select it dummy

[crimson temple]

i just turn the 2nd ccd off

[wheat torrent]

That sounds huge?

[crimson temple]

when playing games

[wheat torrent]

Does it get close to 90% efficiency?

[dawn garden]

question guys

[wheat torrent]

Or is it close to 50%

[dawn garden]

should i run dsr at 5k and scale to 1080?

[crimson temple]

its legit just 2 cpu glued together

[dawn garden]

oris that just overkill?

[rigid fjord]

it's not tbh, they all have the same I/O die, just changes when it goes from single to dual ccd

[wheat torrent]

Damn that's a shame

[cosmic idol]

What even is ccd im so slow rn

[little vigil]

rauoko i cant select pbo

[rigid fjord]

@wheat torrent

[wheat torrent]

Right now I am imagining a dual operating system or some sort of VMs where each VM has its own CCD

[wheat torrent]

Maybe zen6 will improve the io die?

[rigid fjord]

you might need to see about doing a bios update

[cosmic idol]

9900x being split into effectively two 9600x

[wheat torrent]

I'm not sure if all zen6 will be double CCD or not

[little vigil]

this is the latest bios i thinb

03/20/2025

[rigid fjord]

zen6/7 is suppose to cure dual ccd into a single ccd that can do up to 32c

[crimson temple]

crazy

[wheat torrent]

What

[cosmic idol]

I thought you meant degrees c and I was so confused

[wheat torrent]

I heard someone say that zen6 is the true dual CCD CPUs

So they will be going to single CCD instead?

[rigid fjord]

yes

[wheat torrent]

Interesting

[rigid fjord]

to be able to do more cores per CCD

[little vigil]

idk if i can do pbo

[cold skiff]

You can do anything you put your mind to

[rigid fjord]

as currently you're maxing out at 8c 16t per CCD on consumer cpu's

[wheat torrent]

What if they make the io die bigger, of course bigger doesn't mean better but would that help with double CCD? On a am6 for example where the io has more pins

[rigid fjord]

but a single ccd doing 12c 24t or 16c 32t will be a massive improvement on it's own

[cold skiff]

Well no that won’t help

[grizzled frost]

CCDs are limited in size due to inter-core latency

and just die yield

[wheat torrent]

I forgot how much cores my 7900 has

[rigid fjord]

nope, making that bigger would not be a benefit

[wheat torrent]

12?

[rigid fjord]

12c 24t as 6c 12t + 6c 12t

[grizzled frost]

that's why zen5c exists for large core quantity chips, so they can have similar footprint CCDs with more cores

[wheat torrent]

I am looking towards 18-24 that's the numbers I remember

[cold skiff]

AMD need to start throwing cores about like they’re sweets.

[rigid fjord]

zen4c also

[cold skiff]

What do we want? Cores! When do we want them? Now!

[rigid fjord]

zen4c being the precursor into allowing more cores per ccd die on a cpu

the funny bit about both zen4c and zen5c is that unlike intel's way of doing it of splitting off P cores and Ecores

is that both the zen4 c and zen5c are P+E combined still as a single setup just shrunk down a bit more

[wheat torrent]

So we shouldn't necessarily except more cotes

But cores that perform better?

[carmine yew]

yes to both, and no to both

[rigid fjord]

the goal is better IPC

but for better IPC, it can mean a mix of both

[carmine yew]

There are benefits to both solutions, but there's also no one right answer

[rigid fjord]

either to have higher performance, or more cores to have the better IPC

[carmine yew]

Smaller Cores typically use a fair bit less power, but also typically do less work per cycle

[rigid fjord]

until you look at how zen4c and zen5c work

[dawn garden]

uh guys can i ask a question about intel driver update for wireless bluetooth?

it asking if i want to install "typical" "custom" or "complete"

why on earth would i not want "complete" ?

[rigid fjord]

they can do the same amount of work as zen4/zen5 while possibly using less power

[carmine yew]

See: Intel E-Cores
They absolutely sip power, but aren't nearly as instruction crunchy as a full fat P-Core
But they also use about 1/4 the die area of a P-Core

[dawn garden]

like is there a reason to not choose "complete" in the install of the updated driver?

[carmine yew]

there's probably an extra management app or something that you don't really need.
You can manage bluetooth dvices as part of windows and that's all most people need.

always do custom and look at the options

[rigid fjord]

@wheat torrent when you compare zen4 to zen4c

[dawn garden]

hm ok thanks ill do custom and check the options. i might reappear with further question if you would be so kind :S

uhhh

..it ..doesnt elaborate at all

[rose stream]

So tiny.

[dawn garden]

and both packages are 44mb

[cold skiff]

What we need is more cores and more cache

[dawn garden]

there are no custom options besides "install on local drive" and "entire package installs on local drive"

[rigid fjord]

epyc x3d cpu's exist

[cold skiff]

Isn’t Intel doing that? Slapping cache on their next generation socket CPUs and hoping for the best?

[dawn garden]

and it does not give details on what that difference means lol and the disk space required is both 44mb

[carmine yew]

it may also just be a stock installer and stock options, regardless of what's in the package

[rigid fjord]

there's one epyc with like 1gb of cache @cold skiff

[carmine yew]

paying for a custom driver install utility is kinda dumb, because it's a driver.

[cold skiff]

The dream… all that cache

[rigid fjord]

something like 64 cores though

[dawn garden]

ok ill go back and do typical

[cold skiff]

Cache means less reliance on…. Dram! For games atleast

[dawn garden]

just was worried i was gonna miss out on some features

[rigid fjord]

https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/epyc-9684x.c3253 found it @cold skiff

[cosmic idol]

Insert segue to today’s sponsor joke

[rigid fjord]

zen5c threadripper/epyc cpu's be like

[bold olive]

i saw this psu ad

[rigid shale]

is it really worth it to upgrade my 6950xt if i'm still on gen 4

[bold olive]

the background is very appropriate

[rigid fjord]

still a good gpu to use, and to beat it you'd want a 7900xt/7900xtx minimum

[carmine yew]

you realize silverstone typically makes some baller shizz, right?

[bold olive]

i have a silverstone attis 750r that i daily drive

dont pretend i dont know

[rigid shale]

I only play on 1440 P and I know that the 6950 XT thrives on those types of resolutions especially with the 16 GB of a ramp, but I'm just looking for better rate tracing performance on the AMD platform which I know is not always easy to get considering AFV is still quite behind and retracing

[wheat torrent]

Smaller cores more dense

[rigid shale]

wow talk to text is butt

[rigid fjord]

yes but each one is just as powerful as the larger cores

[wheat torrent]

16gb cache CPU

[carmine yew]

if you want better RT: 9070 XT full stop
Skip 7000 series

Or get NVidia RTX 5000's

[rigid fjord]

9070xt then for sure

[rose stream]

Agreed.

[rigid shale]

The 9070s are pretty close to MSRP right now aren't they?

[wheat torrent]

I am waiting for zen6 for months

[carmine yew]

yes

[wheat torrent]

I think it will be a huge upgrade from 7900

[carmine yew]

next summer/fall at the earliest

[rigid fjord]

you'll be waiting for a whole year tbh

[wheat torrent]

I am looking for the best productivity CPU on am5

Not interested in the x3d or the 0050 ones, those are just more expensive

[carmine yew]

lolwut

[wheat torrent]

9950 more expensive than 9900

[rigid fjord]

essentially the 9950x3d currently on amd's side

[carmine yew]

for 4 extra fucking cores, so yes it costs more

[sinful cobalt]

if thats ur opinion its time to stop looking at am5

[wheat torrent]

Yeah but I'm waiting for zen6s best productivity CPU

[carmine yew]

zen7 will smoke zen6. so keep waiting.

[sinful cobalt]

a lawnmower smokes both

[wheat torrent]

Is those cores worth 250 USD?

[rigid shale]

depends on your workload

[wheat torrent]

I'm not switching my motherboard and ram in 4 years to use zen7

Can't wait to spend 500 dollars on ddr6!

[rigid fjord]

zen7 will be on am5

[wheat torrent]

Will it?

Isn't end of support in 2027

[rigid fjord]

due to ram costs, yes

[wheat torrent]

They delayed it?

[swift stream]

ts is so tuff fr

[wheat torrent]

That's kinda interesting turn of events

[rigid fjord]

https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd-extends-am5-lifespan-with-zen-7-ryzen-support-rumour/

https://wccftech.com/amd-confirms-zen-6-zen-7-cpu-core-architectures-more-performance-efficiency-ai/

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/zen-7-am5

[wheat torrent]

How much better is 9950x over 9900

[gleaming rose]

Zen 8 would probably be better

[cosmic idol]

4 more cores 8 more threads iirc

[carmine yew]

if your workload uses the 4 extra cores, about 20-33% better.

If it doesn't, then not at all.

[cosmic idol]

Pretty much

[wheat torrent]

20-33% is a lot

[flat cliff]

Can you check battery health on pixels in settings or do you need an app? Or is it entirely not like how apple does it and I just have to see how long normal use takes to go from 100% to 0%?

[cosmic idol]

That’s only if you’re using all cores pretty much

[carmine yew]

shocking what 33% more cores will get you in performance

[cosmic idol]

Lmfao

[rigid fjord]

there should be something about the battery in the settings menu

[bold olive]

😍

it better be level 1

[rigid shale]

so if i only have pcie 4.0x16 on my mobo would i even get to experience a difference between the 6950 xt and 9070xt? or would the 9070 even function properly since its a gen 5 x16? im not up to date on the whole pcie gen differences and whatnot but arent they back compatibile

[wheat torrent]

I was under the impression they were marginally better