tech-chat-1

[frigid blade]

youd think it would be the opposite

big user error somewhere

@azure topaz u available wednesday?

we can OC the RAM

[swift stream]

i am forced to send it to them, my flashback is able to recognize MSI.ROM and start my PC. But, the flash failed it instantly because it wasn't able to write to my bios chip. And, it is covered under warranty

[hallow jasper]

flashback is tricky. lots of little things need to be just right for it to work. If it doesn't flash, usually an issue with the flash drive or the file is wrong

fat32 drive, ensure its MBR not GPT. when you rename the file, ensure you have file extensions on so you didn't accidentally rename it to MSI.ROM.ROM

when in doubt, try another drive

[ivory mountain]

yikes

hope all goes well

[daring crystal]

https://9to5google.com/2025/12/08/lenovo-might-bring-its-rollable-laptop-display-to-gamers-in-2026/

Do I need

[keen folio]

you guys probably know more about the commander rgb hub from corsair. does this adapter work theoretically?

[ocean axle]

C++ isn't that hard

[hallow jasper]

appears to allow you to plug standard ARGB devices into a Commander

how well and any limitations there are I can say. would need to read the description/reviews and do some googling

[keen folio]

if you dont mind them being german, here https://amzn.eu/d/7U8uU2z

[hallow jasper]

About this item
This adapter allows you to seamlessly connect your 3-pin ARGB devices to Corsair RGB HUB, Lighting Node CORE, Commander CORE or iCUE Commander CORE XT for precise control via Corsair's exceptional iCUE software.
You have the flexibility to use this adapter alongside splitters and hubs to manage multiple ARGB devices simultaneously. It is fully compatible with the Lian Li Strimer Plus.
Specially designed for Corsair RGB HUB and Lighting Node Core users: To give your 3-pin 5V ARGB device a unique lighting effect in iCUE, make sure this adapter occupies the last port in the sequence on your Corsair RGB HUB or Lighting Node CORE. Otherwise, the lighting effect of the next Corsair fan will be replicated in the sequence.
Please note that multiple adapters you use one by one will all have the same lighting effects.
Please note that this ONLY works with the Corsair RGB HUB and the Lighting Node CORE, Commander CORE and iCUE Commander CORE XT. It is not compatible with the Corsair Lighting Node PRO or Commander Pro.

[plush wren]

@azure topaz theres no way this game is this cheap what

oh wtf it just released on steam in november

[brazen glen]

Player base has collapsed due to ark raiders

[plush wren]

[light violet]

Kissing the wifi router combo goodbye.

[keen folio]

good choice for a homesetup

altough you couldve kept the router itself and used a self hosted UI Server

[grizzled frost]

investing in ubiquiti gear is the best decision i ever made

though i got the UDM SE

[light violet]

My current router is toast, it's a nighthawk from like 2019 - it has to be manually rebooted every day almost.

[grizzled frost]

my udm se has an uptime of like 120 days iirc

zero issues

[keen folio]

Same. got a U7 Pro and a U6 Pro Outdoor, some switches from em. altough no gateway or something fancy like that. im using a TelTonika X50 5G Mobile router for internet access.

[plain cypress]

Heck yeah (I only have unifi wifi)

[keen folio]

Also using self hosted unifi on a Docker VM

[light violet]

I have cable internet and bought my own non-wifi modem.

[cold skiff]

Here I am using what my isp gives me

[keen folio]

Always shitty decision

[grizzled frost]

yeah i’m using my ISP provided modem since i’m hoping to upgrade to fiber internet when it becomes available in my area

[light violet]

The fiber trucks have been spotted in my neighborhood - so I kinda planning on jumpin on that wagon as soon as I can.

[cold skiff]

Exactly my reason - fibre.

[grizzled frost]

otherwise i’m an all ubiquiti man for networking

[light violet]

I figure update my base to 2.5g now and then when fiber is up and running just have to swap the modem for the ONT.

[grizzled frost]

10g aggregation switch in the rack, a flex mini 2.5g for the office, and a couple flex minis where needed

[azure topaz]

They’re different styles of games entirely. Literally only someone who doesn’t play tarkov would say this won’t lie

[warm hinge]

Do you use pfSense?

[grizzled frost]

the router is in the image

the gateway max is a gateway

[azure topaz]

The record player is in the record

[light violet]

No, right now I just use a baseline nighthawk that's puttering it's last puts.

[grizzled frost]

routing its last packets

[azure topaz]

I have reset up truenas and properly ish

[plain cypress]

146 days

[plain cypress]

Yes

[azure topaz]

13900KS pf sense box

[plain cypress]

Don't tempt me with a good time

[azure topaz]

“Good”

Routing packets at 6ghz 1.54V

[brazen glen]

I know they’re different, I just heard that in a few places tbh

[azure topaz]

Tarkov since 1.0 has been pretty poppin IMO, I run into players basically every raid even on routes I made to avoid people

[hallow jasper]

very different play style but still extraction shooters at the core, so naturally there will be crossover

[azure topaz]

Yeah

[azure topaz]

Now if only it was release ready

[brazen glen]

Anyone else drinking coffee to maintain a higher core temperature in their freezing ass office

[rough salmon]

30fps 💔

it went to 24fps cuz of screenshotting

[ivory mountain]

whats ts game

[rough salmon]

arc raiders

[ivory mountain]

i need to try it

[rough salmon]

its quite optimised tbh

can run on a hp laptop lmao

[pine sandal]

As of right now, which ram ddr 4 do yall recommend? 2x16gb and 3200mhz?

[rough salmon]

dont buy ram rn

just wait tbh

[pine sandal]

do anyone know how much time until the price becomes better?

or is it totally random

[rough salmon]

people say 4 years

[ivory mountain]

buy used

[rough salmon]

because companies would rather give to AI

[ivory mountain]

its not gonna be 4 years

[grizzled nova]

Im thinking until 2027

Or at least sept 2026

[ivory mountain]

micron going fully AI helps out more than people think

[pine sandal]

yeah then I wont wait more than 3 months💔

[grizzled nova]

Crucial wasnt a “huge” ram supplier

[pine sandal]

still,which

[fringe prairie]

what specs?

[grizzled nova]

Micron was #2

[rough salmon]

isnt that getting shut down cuz the ram company would rather give to AI

[grizzled nova]

But hynix has like a 65% marketshare

[grizzled nova]

Yea

[ivory mountain]

micron stopped selling to consumers and is going fully into AI

[rough salmon]

its so stupid

[ivory mountain]

not rly micron ddr5 is ass

[rough salmon]

we know the steam machine aint gonna be around $700 anymore, guess linus has to do that bet

i mean, lets be nice to linus about the deal of him missing $50, not his fault ram prices went rocket

[mild parrot]

Installed CachyOS on a QLC DRAMless SSD with ZFS and that was a bad idea. Any time the SSD is under heavy load shit stalls hard. Added a 64GB optane ssd for metadata now it’s fast af like holy shit.

[ivory mountain]

ill estimate around 2-3 months when these companies realize AI isnt as profitable as they think itll be and crash i cant wait for it to happen

[grizzled nova]

Yea its pretty much only hynix for 6000+

[rough salmon]

When it crashes I’ll invest 🙂

[pine sandal]

?

[ivory mountain]

u can look for these kits https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/ most of these are good

[rough salmon]

guys on serious note, im still thinking of getting steam machine, itll def cost over $1000 now right

[ivory mountain]

probably like 750

[brazen glen]

I could see them releasing a barebones box and saying “sorry just hold tight”

[rough salmon]

a ramless steam machine lol

would make sense

is steam machine ddr4 ram or 5 because i have 32gb ddr5 laptop ram

spare^

[brazen glen]

It’s ddr5 so ur golden

[warm hinge]

I see

[rough salmon]

selling ddr5 32gb ram for £600

jks lol, im not selling it

[ivory mountain]

unironically my 64gb kit goes for that much

[warm hinge]

Nice pfSense is actually very good

[ivory mountain]

689.99 USD

[rough salmon]

its so crazy

laptop ram yeah?

[ivory mountain]

no ew

[rough salmon]

lolll

ram investors must be so happy rn

[ivory mountain]

and scalpers are gonne be disappointed in 3 months

[rough salmon]

lmao

no offence to people buying ram right now, but they must be stupid asf to be buying it atm

its rly not worth it at all

[ivory mountain]

cant really use a pc without it

[empty quartz]

@ivory mountain its fucking here!!!!

[rough salmon]

look at that small thing how cute

[ivory mountain]

holy shit 😭

[empty quartz]

My hands are gargantuan, it looks smaller than it is

[plain cypress]

This is why we run it

Also I don't want to spend more money on ubiquiti right now

[pine sandal]

lmao I bought 2 months ago 2x16gb ddr5 ram at 120$ and its at 450$ now wtf

[plain cypress]

Eventually I'll retire my current router and get unifi

[hallow jasper]

can I post this tomorrow

[pine sandal]

Wdym?

[plain cypress]

Post it to r/PCMR for uber updoots

[hallow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/the-joke-superman-flying-missing-the-joke-not-getting-the-joke-gif-16558902

[warm anvil]

Should I keep secure boot on

I disabled it a while ago when I reinstalled windows cause I had to boot from my usb

[hallow jasper]

I mean, chances are you're going to run into something that requires it and there is no real downside so..

[warm anvil]

Aight

[muted wind]

27” OLED or 32” VA

[ashen hearth]

I was thinking about using Ventory to create a bootable USB and do a fresh PC install, and also put drivers, bios updates etc in the same USB. DO you see any problem with this?

[hallow jasper]

I don't see any resolutions.

[ivory mountain]

27 inch oled

[ivory mountain]

probably 1440p if i had to assume

[muted wind]

1440

[warm hinge]

Definitely for sure it’s actually better to have your own system pfSense and have a cheaper network setup

[plain cypress]

2k, obviously

[hallow jasper]

If both 1440p, one of those is fantastic and the other is trash.

[muted wind]

Yeah and one costs twice as much

[hallow jasper]

You asked

[ivory mountain]

VA is doodoo ass oled isnt doodoo ass

[muted wind]

True

[plain cypress]

Technically my PFSense box cost me ~$1000*

[hallow jasper]

We just had this conversation this morning, VA is not universally doodoo ass but I digress

[warm anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/flcl-mamimi-aaahhh-wtf-shocked-gif-24981847

[muted wind]

I just don’t know if I want to spend the $550 plus tax

[trim schooner]

yall do the 7600x3d and 7800x3d have a big difference?

[hallow jasper]

2 cores

[ivory mountain]

it usually is doodoo ass, my old HVA wasnt that bad though

[trim schooner]

is the difference noticable

[plain cypress]

7800x3d - 7600x3d = 200

[warm hinge]

Oh I see so it’s expensive

[tired bear]

atleast 1-2y or if ai pops then sooner

[brazen glen]

Unless you’re doing high refresh 1080p comp gaming it’s fine and you will enjoy either

[hallow jasper]

if doing something thats hitting all the cores, yes

if you're just gaming, in most cases, no

[trim schooner]

i just wanna play minecraft with shaders 💔

[hallow jasper]

6 cores in 2025 is rough

[plain cypress]

Naw I'm just messing
I technically spent that much, but the whole story is I've repurposed my first gaming pc multiple times over the years
Gaming PC -> hackintosh -> pfsense

[brazen glen]

Lmfao you’ll be totally okay with either

[trim schooner]

in my country the 7800x3d is 100 euros more expensive

[warm anvil]

Whatever this is happens twice every time I login and my monitor goes black during this do y'all know what it is?

[trim schooner]

i got a 9070xt as my gpu tho

[hallow jasper]

I bought a new cheapo AM3+ board and PCIe Intel NIC's when I built my first Pfsense back in like 2012

[warm hinge]

Oh LOL

[brazen glen]

1440p max RT on a 9070xt gives me 55-60 fps with second bounce ray marching in heavily modded mc

[plain cypress]

Mine first PFSense box was a pair of broken optiplexes made into a single working one that were bought for $5 each at university surplus store

[trim schooner]

and on normal mc without shaders?

[plain cypress]

Core 2 duos

[hallow jasper]

normaly all you need.

[trim schooner]

btw someone help me with finishing my build im a newbie dealing with expensive parts

[brazen glen]

Hundreds of FPS lmao

[hallow jasper]

we used to do LAN parties at my place back then. It was fun for everyone to open the Steam server browser and watch the state table fill up and kill my old router at the time. the pfsense box didn't even blink

[plain cypress]

It worked for years but tossed it when I moved cross country

Also used a lot of power for what it was

[trim schooner]

!

[plain cypress]

Optiplex chassis a bit loud with crap cooling

[brazen glen]

Ope I got warshippedw

[trim schooner]

can someone help with finishing my build

[brazen glen]

The 7600x3d and a 9070xt is a great pairing and that’s the most important thing, go get a thermalright cooler that fits ur budget and go nuts

[trim schooner]

well idk what motherboard and ram to get

[ivory mountain]

ram yeah ur cooked rn buddy better wait a little

[brazen glen]

32 gb of ddr5-6000 cl30 and go watch Hardware Unboxed’s B650 or B850 roundup

[empty quartz]

@plain cypress do i test the new gpu in my main or my workstation?

[brazen glen]

But yeah the ram is going to cost u approximately 5x what it should so lol and lmao

[plain cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/google-exists-google-search-it-geekboy-geekboy-cz-gif-25933207

[trim schooner]

problem are those ram prices

[ivory mountain]

discord IS a search engine

[brazen glen]

Yeah sorry bud ur boned

[trim schooner]

i could probablky find those for 300$, more than the cpu..

[craggy cove]

wuh

[brazen glen]

6 cores is the new 4 cores which is the old 2 cores with HT

[rough imp]

Left the PC I have my cousin booting (it has an hdd because she hasn’t gotten an SSD yet because I gave it to her yesterday, so it takes a little while to boot) came back after an hour or so, and apparently not even the computer knows what’s wrong with it 😂

Kidding ofc I know it’s a problem with the hdd or windows install

[ivory mountain]

???????? ??? ????

[hallow jasper]

why is this picture sideways

i can't be bothered

[warm hinge]

It looks like if the graphics card is broken looks strange

[empty quartz]

It fucking works :DDDDD

[hallow jasper]

No it doesn't. It says right in the picture what the problem is but the sideways image from 10 feet away isn't helping matters

[hexed tapir]

Smh resizable bar is disabled

[ivory mountain]

the application or operating system couldnt be loaded because a required file is missing or contains errors

[empty quartz]

Yeah, i forgot to enable it after i got my 14600k and reset the bios

[warm anvil]

Can u enable legacy usb support with aptio bios

[craggy cove]

@iron glen

[ivory mountain]

so forgetful...

[hexed tapir]

Did you buy it when it was amazingly cheap at <$160?

[iron glen]

Oh i thought this was abt the chat control

We're with it now i hate it

[empty quartz]

I bought mine for $240 cad (173usd)

[hexed tapir]

Not bad

[craggy cove]

blow up denmark

and ourselves too i suppose

[empty quartz]

Cheapest was $230 cad (166 usd) but they were sold out

Could’ve done a price match, but a $10 cad difference is not much

[iron glen]

If theres ever a big war
Im joining the opposing side i don't care 🥀
-# joke for obvious reasons

[craggy cove]

i mean theres only one possible war

and like fuck no

[iron glen]

Enough politics i say!!

[craggy cove]

keeping it vaguer than a hollywood war film

[iron glen]

Anyone can connect those dots my guy

[craggy cove]

just like a certain top grossing hollywood war film

[hallow jasper]

thanks, I hate it

[empty quartz]

@plain cypress how install gpu driver

[hallow jasper]

double click exe, keep clicking next

[tired bear]

some people really dont know how to think for themself

[unique belfry]

anyone have any clue what i do with this thing? its connected to the router via ethernet and i think it was my dad's

[unique belfry]

the buffalo link duo that is

[tired bear]

its a old nas

[hallow jasper]

Google requires critical thinking, research of the results and forming conclusions.

AI skips all that and just spits out your conclusion thats often wrong and missing all nuance.

I hate everything about it.

[valid sphinx]

so 1T 4800mhz cl38 or 2T 6000mhz cl32 plus?

[hallow jasper]

but I spent the last 25 years or so putting every question I've ever had into a search engine and reading.

[tired bear]

same

[hallow jasper]

Maybe it'll be different 25 years from now.

[winter lantern]

Is a 9060xt better than a 5070

If you ignore the price

[valid sphinx]

depends do you need cuda or not ?

[fringe prairie]

no

[winter lantern]

Amd glazers will just say it is cause more vram right

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-8ball-gif-23103665

[fringe prairie]

i hope not

[valid sphinx]

then go with what ever has the deal... maybe even a video game tossed in

[winter lantern]

Most likely because the price

[ivory mountain]

W chainsaw man im watching the movie rn

[winter lantern]

Its so peak

[tired bear]

vram is easy
either you have enoug to run at specified resolution and quality or you dont

[ivory mountain]

dude the symbolism with the butterfly slowly getting captured by the spider man ts is crazy bro

[winter lantern]

It like uses the vram better tho

[tired bear]

no lmao

[winter lantern]

Whyd you say no then

Is it better in things that are under 12

Is that what you mean

[valid sphinx]

guy maybe into cad cam stuff and need ccuda .. or simple 3d drawing and paint amd would be fine i suppose ..

[tired bear]

like i said
either you have enough
or
you dont and cannot run at specified resolution and settings

[hallow jasper]

Cards like that are 1440p cards. With upscaling, the amount of games where you're really going to need more VRAM than the 5070 has and where its brute force over 9060xt isn't enough is small.

[valid sphinx]

true .. games like destiny using max 4gb ... or runescape at like 2gb.. vs full out cyberpunk or few hours into dayz .. and well over 14gb

[hallow jasper]

DLSS4, MFG, RTX HDR, RTX VSR and so many other features that are just plain better and more widely supported means I'll always gladly pay the Nvidia tax.

[warm anvil]

Why does my BIOS just not let me enable secure boot😭

[plain cypress]

CSM?

[warm anvil]

No option for that either

[hallow jasper]

from your TC2 posts, you were working with a pretty old looking actual BIOS

what board is this @warm anvil

[plain cypress]

I'm so late to this, what platform

[warm anvil]

I got this but it doesn't let me go up and enable it

[warm anvil]

Uhhh let me see

[hallow jasper]

gonna have to fiddle with key management

[hallow jasper]

I can't be specific without seeing whats in that menu

[tired bear]

this gen i went with amd just to see what they have to offer

[hallow jasper]

yikes

so.. its a laptop?

[warm anvil]

the menu is very confusing

[warm anvil]

Yeah

[hallow jasper]

whats in key management

[warm anvil]

Was gonna buy my first pc in January but ram prices just went insane

[hallow jasper]

oh boy

[warm anvil]

Dude I disabled it before and before the option was right there

Maybe cause I was on a different os?

[hallow jasper]

can you select Platform Key

[hallow jasper]

yeah i'm not going to go any further. maybe there is documentation out there now that we know its a laptop (google: laptop model number + enable secure boot) but don't fiddle around until you do

i'm going to get ready to drive home

[tired bear]

imo, reset to defaults and it will be enabled

[warm anvil]

Alright thanks for the help

[warm anvil]

Good idea actually

[warm anvil]

Didn't work suprisingly

Oh well whatever I don't really even need it enabled I can barely run most multiplayer games

[hallow jasper]

F10 save and reboot after making any changes

or things likely won't take

[warm anvil]

Ohh so reset to default then relaunch into bios

[tired bear]

yes

[warm anvil]

Ok

[hallow jasper]

I know the couple of times i've had to turn SB on (its just default on these days) just enabling it doesn't always do it. There is a key reset you have to do in many cases.

[warm anvil]

It was on by default

I just disabled it cause I tried Linux a while ago

And I needed to disable it to be able to launch back into Windows

[ornate harbor]

Will my bottleneck be big if i slap a RX9060XT onto a PCI 4x16 mainboard

[eager mango]

yes lol

[ornate harbor]

But how big

[hallow jasper]

no

[ornate harbor]

Now its yes vs no

[warm anvil]

God I hate laptops

[hallow jasper]

Gen4 x16 on a 9060xt?

... this won't do anything strange at all

[ivory mountain]

wtf are u saying

[ornate harbor]

Well the card is 5x16 and internet said mixed opinions about the bottleneck

[eager mango]

PCIe 5.0 x16

[hot ginkgo]

hey guys, as we all know ram prices are bonkers right now so iv been looking at facebook marketplace for some used kits, right now i have the option to buy two kits of ram
both are gskill trident z
32gb ddr5 6000 cl36
96bg ddr5 5600 cl40
i can get both of these right now for $300 and they are going into a 9800x3d / 5080 build
would the 5600 cl40 kit suffice for that cpu? i know people say the "sweet spot" is 6000 cl30
any and all help is greatly appreciated!

[hallow jasper]

There are no mixed opinions, just stupid people. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-pci-express-scaling/29.html

[warm anvil]

It worked tysm

[eager mango]

youll get like 10% better performance usinfg PCIe 5.0 x16

[ornate harbor]

Before i read the article its a RX9060xt not a 5090 idk if that makes a difference

[ivory mountain]

your cpu doesnt even support above pcie 3 stop giving advice

[hallow jasper]

A 5090 is barely affected by even 3.0 x16. Don't listen to clueless people.

[trim schooner]

anyone got motherboard suggestions for a 9070xt build with a 57600x3d?

[ornate harbor]

its a RX9060xt though

[eager mango]

just tryna be helpful, sorry i cant afford better hardware

[hallow jasper]

It means your GPU is FAR less demanding and if its only going to affect a 5090 that little, you'll never see a difference.

[ivory mountain]

well youre not helpful youre just spreading misinformation

🥀

[ornate harbor]

So just stay with Am4 and PCi 4x16 for now

[eager mango]

yeha nah youre a complete asshole

[hallow jasper]

you can do whatever you want, all i'm telling you is using Gen4x16 or Gen5x16 will not change anything

[ivory mountain]

basically 67 stays 67 on pcie 4 and pcie 5 and the triple T wont get u boiiiiiiii

[eager mango]

pretty funny

[ornate harbor]

Thats what i needed to know

[ivory mountain]

i converted it into brainrot it works a lot trust

[hallow jasper]

I have no idea what you said

but I think i'm safer that way

[ornate harbor]

I dont understand any brainrot

[ivory mountain]

was worth a try

[swift stream]

tried on 3 different drives, but got same result, it is able to turn on the power of system and start and start reriting MSI.ROM, but will not write it to my chip and fails instantly

[grim lily]

Guys

Should I upgrade my PC?

[warm anvil]

Finally done with my pc issues for the day

[eager mango]

send specas

[ornate harbor]

my mind is 75% pure I dont get brainrot

[hallow jasper]

triple checked you have the right file? not for the wifi version if you don't have it? same revision if there are more than one?

[ivory mountain]

if youre questioning on upgrading it then yeah probably

[grim lily]

I have an AMD FX 8350, GTX 1080, 16GB ddr3, 512gb SATA
I want: 5070ti, 9900x or 7800x3d, 64gb ddr5, 2tb m.2 gen5.

It's for blender, 4k editing, content creation and live streaming, heavy games and heavy workloads

[swift stream]

i didn't have access to windows so i had to copy bios from zip on chromeOS

[ornate harbor]

Depends on what you have and what you wanna do

[ivory mountain]

yeah id upgrade lol

[hallow jasper]

yikes, possibly related. Especially if you did any formatting of the drive in ChromeOS

[eager mango]

yeah then give me ur cpu 😄

[ornate harbor]

Yeah if you have the money go for the upgrade

[grim lily]

Alr

[swift stream]

i formatted it to fat32 on chrome

[hallow jasper]

MBR partition table?

i don't know how you'd check on ChromeOS

[swift stream]

my linux is blocked (yes i used a school device) 😔

[empty quartz]

@hallow jasper rate the 3dmark steel nomad benchmark

[swift stream]

i did download the zip for vM6 on and pulled the bios file out of zip and renamed it to MSI.ROM
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B650-S-WIFI/support

[empty quartz]

No, my subwoofer doesnt sound like that, its my subwoofer moving so much air, it causes issues with my phone mic

[hallow jasper]

i don't rate things, also have no point of comparison

[empty quartz]

1.5 fps

[swift stream]

here is a vid of its behavior (it went on for 1-2 hours)

[empty quartz]

My rx 6800 gets 30 consistently

My macbook pro (m1 max 24 core) gets 14fps

[swift stream]

i can try again if you want but

[ornate harbor]

30fps in what and what resolution

[vague glacier]

Curious about getting a macbook

Considering the m4 Air or putting a bit more money down for a used m1 max

[ornate harbor]

Just go for a gaming laptop

[fringe prairie]

???

what sorta response is that lol

[vague glacier]

I already have a very good (for me) gaming pc

[fringe prairie]

m1 max

much better gpu and better display, speakers, i/o because it’s mbp

[ornate harbor]

I still wnet for a budget gaming laptop for school, i dont get why people buy apple

[fringe prairie]

ultra reliable well built laptops

the mbp quite literally has no competition at the moment

[south arrow]

Funkadelic/10

[ornate harbor]

And what i heard of, hard to repair and a hell if youw ant to programm software for it

[south arrow]

My guy may not have many frames but hes bumpin

[fringe prairie]

the hard to repair thing can be true for many windows laptops as well

it’s not exclusive to mac

however their ssd and ram prices are caca (maybe not their ram prices anymore tho…)

[ornate harbor]

I mean i watched some videos about it and even if Windows laptops are oftena s hard to repair its cheaper to get change parts for them, and you can upgrade easier

[fringe prairie]

eh upgrade depends on the laptop

many laptops nowadays have soldered ram, wifi

[vague glacier]

I have never needed to repair a laptop in my entire life. I usually use them for years and years and years to the point where I might as well get modern.

[ornate harbor]

Eh my laptop has a RTX2050M and its still doing good in new games

[valid sphinx]

some people are happy with the best and want more .. lol

arent *

[opal dock]

Damn I just missed it

[ornate harbor]

missed what

[opal dock]

Sold out so fast

[opal dock]

It was on sale for $65

[vague glacier]

yeah if I saw that I'd buy like 5 just to have around

[fringe prairie]

[ornate harbor]

Whats the normal price

[opal dock]

$155

I'm just baffled they even did a sale on it with the SSD stuff going on rn

[ornate harbor]

dang for that money you can get my GPU if you search used

[ornate harbor]

Why is it so expensive though

[iron moth]

I bought that 2 days ago for 155 how was it on 64 there?

What website/app is that?

[ivory mountain]

Best buy

[silk agate]

Is this where im suppose to put the ssd theres no cooling thing like i expected for it

[silk agate]

💀

Put the ssd or take that cover and put it where the ssd is

[fringe prairie]

put the ssd there

[opal dock]

AI

[ornate harbor]

What

[true adder]

you cant put the cover in another spot

[opal dock]

AI and data centers are buying up like all the stock of DDR memory and SSD's

That's why RAM skyrocketed, and SSD's went up in price too but not as much as RAM

[ornate harbor]

Dawg why the SSDs isnt RAm aneough for them

[true adder]

I threw away 400 SSD's today

and a few ram sticks

[opal dock]

It's in the name, Data Centers

They have so much data it's not even funny

[ornate harbor]

Dawg they can use the HDDs let us gamers at least have something

First GPus, then RAM now SSDs

[opal dock]

But you don't understand, how could they ever bring shareholder value and raise the bottom line if their AI's had to learn from slow ass hard drives? Think of the poor shareholders' pockets!

[true adder]

I work at a MS datacenter and we're gonna double in size next 5 years

[empty quartz]

Its steel nomad. Its a benchmark

[true adder]

so good luck all

[opal dock]

Why yall just throwing away SSD's? Non functional or just cuz

[empty quartz]

What do you plan to use the system for?

I have a shit ton of experience with this stuff

[true adder]

if a server cluster has been used for like 8 years all the SSD's get shredded and other parts get re-used if possible

everything with data on it can not be used again

[opal dock]

Yeah I forgot about that

Can't have any stuff leaking

[ornate harbor]

Where can you make it

[opal dock]

Doesn't it have to be like pulverized to dust

[true adder]

yep

[empty quartz]

Tf you mean

[ornate harbor]

Where can i make the benchamrk with my own gpu

[empty quartz]

Are you like 13 or smt

[ornate harbor]

+2 but yeah

[empty quartz]

Not helping your case

https://store.steampowered.com/app/223850/3DMark/

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Price

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[ornate harbor]

dawg

[empty quartz]

Just use the free demo

[limpid ivy]

👀

[empty quartz]

I paid for it because i have alot of systems

[opal dock]

3DMark showed me that my CPU BiOS settings somehow got it stuck on running single threaded. Could not get it to switch to SMT until I reset the bios

[south arrow]

When it goes on sale for 10$ its worth it

[opal dock]

Was so confused for days why my CPU was so bad compared to the other benchmarks from the same chip

[limpid ivy]

I think paid less for it but worth it lol

[empty quartz]

Only worthwhile to buy it if you do overclocking, and have alot of systems imo

[south arrow]

Yuss

[opal dock]

Honestly, Cyberpunk 2077 was better at testing my GPU OC's than OCCT and 3DMark lmao

[limpid ivy]

Oh yea Ace so my uncle lost his Apple Watch , he works overseas. But yea he owes me 230$ now when he returns for a week around Christmas.

[empty quartz]

Does he not have an iphone?

[opal dock]

My settings were completely stable on both of those, but would crash in Helldivers and CP2077 occasionally. Had my UV set slightly too low

[limpid ivy]

He does but it was stolen in Vietnam.

You ain’t getting anything back

[empty quartz]

Make sure he doesnt remove it off find my or his apple account

That way the person who stole it is fucked over, and wasted their time

[limpid ivy]

Yea should be good after I told him.

[empty quartz]

Y’all think this oc is stable enough?

[limpid ivy]

Same with my grandma iPhone, but it was just in her luggage the entire time

By the time I found out sucker was erased

[true adder]

looks like video editing software haha

[empty quartz]

Its not

[true adder]

no shit

[empty quartz]

Its my first time overclocking on lga 1700

Tried for 5.6 all core (4.5 on all the e-cores)

[limpid ivy]

Man I love the week before finals. Parking is plentiful and I don’t have to fight for it lol.

[frigid blade]

Well

Im getting over 40FPS at 1440p

This is a local stream

The bitrate is crazy tho

[empty quartz]

@limpid ivy my 14600k was pulling a max of 68.8W while doing a single core benchmark

[opal dock]

Very

[finite osprey]

whats a good keyboard under $100 for gaming or everyday use and the max size I want im not syure the percentage but rn I ha ve a 60% and its a decent size but i want a keyboard tats not huge but has F keys at the top

[ivory mountain]

so tkl or 75% is ur best bet

[limpid ivy]

huh noice, I wanna try to mess around with my friends Ultra 7 265k but another day when I have more time

[finite osprey]

yeah i think, do u know any

[ornate harbor]

Is that good

[opal dock]

I got my 9800x3D to boost stably at 5.4GHz for weeks now (-25 mV too). I wonder how close I can get to the rumored 9850x3D clock speed

[silk agate]

Tell me my cooler isnt too big 😔

[opal dock]

Pain

[silk agate]

Fuck

[ornate harbor]

Thats why i use 9 Fan cases

[opal dock]

Yeah it looks like the top is 280mm max

[brazen glen]

Is this a thermal take penalty box

[opal dock]

Could you do it on front intake?

See if the front can fit 360mm

[plain cypress]

Why did you buy a 360

Oh wait

Is that a 4000D? Yeah 360 in the front, tubes up top

[silk agate]

Like right here right

[silk agate]

Ok

[plain cypress]

That little black cover at the bottom pops off

[silk agate]

Oooh bet

I love discord 🥹

[opal dock]

Yeah switch it to front of the case

[plain cypress]

Well it may have a small clip, don't force it kek

[opal dock]

W ThermalRight AIO. Absolute best value on the market for an AIO

[plain cypress]

4000D with a 360 in the front

[silk agate]

Ooh ok got it

[silk agate]

Attempting now

[opal dock]

Man I love how founders series cards look. They're so clean

[plain cypress]

What

Oh fuck lmao

[opal dock]

Your GPU

[plain cypress]

I forgot I borrowed my roommate's 3090 for a few weeks

[opal dock]

"Borrowed my roommates 3090"

[plain cypress]

The b580 makes the case a lot emptier

[opal dock]

I never heard of lending a GPU but that's sick lol

[plain cypress]

He was out of the country for 2 weeks lol

[silk agate]

Yall see the case fan thats at the front here were do i move
That too

[opal dock]

Top exhaust probably

In the top left corner with that back exhaust

[candid cairn]

Will i actually feel a difference between 5200mhz and 6000mhz?

[opal dock]

RAM?

[candid cairn]

Yep

[opal dock]

Depends what you're using it for

[candid cairn]

Gaming and little school work

But mostly in games like gta or valorant, is it really a difference?

[brazen glen]

Not unless you’re counting every frame in slo-mo

[opal dock]

But most cases probably not. There will be maybe a 10% difference max in CPU bound games

[candid cairn]

By how much

[opal dock]

0-10% depending on the game

GTA and Valorant probably like 5-10%

[brazen glen]

The higher the resolution the less it should matter generally

[candid cairn]

Gotcha, so i wont spend like a other 60$ for 6000mhz

[opal dock]

More likely the lower end of that

[brazen glen]

I mean if you can it’s not a bad idea but yeah ram prices are so fucked that i get wanting to save when possible

[opal dock]

It makes more difference when you're doing like productivity tasks and super demanding CPU applications

[candid cairn]

Shits crazy

Cant believe am actually planning on buying ram for more than 200$

[brazen glen]

Only time I’ve ever even noticed the difference between ddr4 and 5 is when I was playing Flight Sim and all my pop in disappeared even on old ddr5-5200 cl40 when it was new

Most gaming workloads do not take full advantage of ram bandwidth

[opal dock]

I got lucky (relatively speaking lol) and got my RAM like a week before it doubled. Paid $180 for 32GB 6000MHz 36-36-36-80

Still way more than I wanted to pay

[opal dock]

Average Flight Sim moment

[candid cairn]

And last question, is there a difference between 5200 and 5600 that worth 30$ more?

[opal dock]

Less difference than between 5200 and 6000

[candid cairn]

So 5200 it is

[ivory mountain]

6000 is the best for am5 ngl

[candid cairn]

But is it worth another 80$?

Am playing just gta and valorant

[ivory mountain]

what kit are u looking at

[candid cairn]

Am getting like 120fps with a 2666mhz, i think 5200mhz is far more than what i need

[candid cairn]

G.Skill Ripjaws M5 RGB 2x16GB DDR5 5200MHz CL40

[ivory mountain]

thats gotta be micron @azure topaz correct me if im wrong

[candid cairn]

Its the cheapest 2x16 in my country

[ivory mountain]

5200 at cl40 isnt good im ngl

[candid cairn]

Is it way better than 2666mhz?

[glass crest]

In bios does secure boot mode standard/custom matter as much? ChatGPT telling me to put it in standard instead of custom

[glass crest]

But a YouTube tutorial is telling me to put it on custom

[ivory mountain]

timings matter just as much as the actual speed, CL40 is a huge latency increase

[candid cairn]

But most of ddr5 are cl32 and above, is it really a big difference between 32 and 40? And by how much

[silk agate]

The cable for the exhaust is frigging wedged in there. Omg this is enough stress for one day

[ivory mountain]

lower CL is better

and yes its a big diff

[silk agate]

So i cant move it

[candid cairn]

In what way will i feel it?

And by how much

[ivory mountain]

your 1% lows, and less stutters/completely eliminated stutters

[glass crest]

I ended up leaving it at standard

[candid cairn]

It’s just that my budget is really tight with the price increases, am tryna understand if it’s actually worth the extra 80

[ivory mountain]

well 5200mhz cl40 youre probably getting micron, 6000 cl32-38 ur getting hynix most likely which you can actually OC and get the most out of it, i got my cl38 kit to cl28 with better subtimings for example

[candid cairn]

What a micron

[ivory mountain]

a brand that made ram

[candid cairn]

And what exactly the difference, just the oc?

[wheat torrent]

Ram chips

[wheat torrent]

There are 3 companies in the whole world who make ram chips

2 from south korea and one in America, micron

[ivory mountain]

yep

[wheat torrent]

Every "brand" you buy the ram sticks from use the ram chips from one of three companies

[candid cairn]

Should i just get the Kingston FURY Renegade RGB 2x16GB DDR5 8000MHz CL38?

[ivory mountain]

what cpu do u have

[candid cairn]

Am gonna buy the 7600x

[wheat torrent]

Idk if am5 is straightforward at running 8000MHz

[ivory mountain]

it can run it at gear 2

[wheat torrent]

That's more Intel territory no?

[candid cairn]

It’s just the 2nd cheapest ram in my local store

[wheat torrent]

But I mean if you can get it at a good price get it

[candid cairn]

Can’t i just run it in a lower speed?

[wheat torrent]

Yes

If you lucky you can get it to run at 8000 MHz without issues

But usually you need a good chipset motherboard or whatnot

[candid cairn]

Am getting one of the cheapest b650

[wheat torrent]

People recommend 6000 cl30 because it just works on nearly every machine

[candid cairn]

This combo is just so expensive tho

[wheat torrent]

Right now yes

[candid cairn]

I can get this for like 40$ cheaper then the cheapest 6000mhz cl30

[wheat torrent]

Sure

You just have to know you might not be able to get it to run at 8000mhz

[candid cairn]

I gotta buy it now, my 2666mhz 16gb is on life support rn

[wheat torrent]

Wdym

Do you have every other component

[candid cairn]

No worries, i want to at least get the most of it

[candid cairn]

I got a pc rn, am just changing the mb cpu and ram

[wheat torrent]

Technically if you can't run 8000 then you would be running 6000 cl38

Instead of 6000 cl30

But right now the market is cooked

[candid cairn]

What difference will i feel

[wheat torrent]

Unsure

Technically lower performance

Not by much but yeah

[candid cairn]

Barely noticeable ngl

[wheat torrent]

Though later on if you get a 9000 series CPU

You should be able to push it to 8000 mhz

On 7000 not so much

[ivory mountain]

whos source is this

[wheat torrent]

I recall on 7600x official support is 5200MT/s but you would overclock it and get around 6000

[wheat torrent]

https://youtu.be/6ra8D3ZDHR8?si=d_LM4M_sGFvlo8sU

[ivory mountain]

what the fuck 🤣 dude didnt even do any timing changes other than the CL

[real lantern]

blalablablablalbal

[ivory mountain]

also i can guarantee his shit isnt stable, going from c36 to c30 needs more voltage than 1.4

[vestal stream]

The rich only get richer

[wheat torrent]

Ewaste

[ivory mountain]

W ewaste

[high halo]

Wdym ewaste?

Its usable ram

[vestal stream]

Pulled from reddit, its clearly ddr3

[ivory mountain]

Which is now ewaste

[high halo]

Ah, if only ddr3 to ddr4 adapters exist

[wheat torrent]

That looks like DDR lmao

[vestal stream]

Maybe some ddr2 there as well. Those short sticks are usually ddr2

[vestal stream]

Huh??? If only used ddr4 sodimm to dimm adapters. Those were great

[high halo]

What is the longest lasting pc component? I was thinking mobo or cpu but im pretty sure there are more

[vestal stream]

Ram

Easily

[high halo]

Wait ram?

But it constantly writes data tho

[vestal stream]

It must endure trillions of cycles

And we're not even Talking about ecc ram

[wheat torrent]

Ram without ECC can kinda degrade with time

[high halo]

But what about the mobo tho?

[high halo]

So ecc ram is indestructible?

[vestal stream]

No, just very long lasting

[wheat torrent]

Nothing is indestructible

[high halo]

Can it outlive the average human tho?

[wheat torrent]

We don't know

[vestal stream]

Like 15years+ full workload long lasting

[wheat torrent]

Dim ram is not that old

[vestal stream]

I'd say that lightly used hard drives last 10 years too

[high halo]

Hdd or ssd?

[wheat torrent]

Both die

A matter of time

[vestal stream]

Ppl usually say to replace an HDD every 5 years but I think I'm gonna disagree. As long as hard disk info shows good just keep using it

[wheat torrent]

I would be inclined to say CPUs last longer if not damaged

[vestal stream]

Ssds tend to last longer due to have access to smart. Which means that you can run down An SSD to 25% Health before needing to worry about replacing it.

[wheat torrent]

Not if unused

If you leave a SSD unused it will kinda die

[vestal stream]

I need my sata ssd to last longer than 10 years if I wanna keep my PS3 and 4 active.

[vestal stream]

Unused as in not writing to it or as in cold storage?

[wheat torrent]

No power

If you live a normal long life

You will definetly outlast both SSDs and HDDs , consumer grade

[vestal stream]

Oh. I have 2 brand new m.2 sata ssds that I'm keeping as Backups rn.

[high halo]

But which lasts longer?

[wheat torrent]

Ssd needs yearly power ups

[vestal stream]

Idk about factory stuff if they degrade too but if they've never been turned on then no issue right?

[high halo]

Wait, is t that supposed to happen to batteries?

[wheat torrent]

If there is no data then there is nothing to lose

[wheat torrent]

No

[high halo]

But anyway do hdds last longer than ssds?

[wheat torrent]

Idk what you said actually

[high halo]

Like most nas and home server setups have hdds

[wheat torrent]

Depends

[vestal stream]

Ohhhhhh you mean the nand memory losing charge. That's only a concern for cold storage

[wheat torrent]

An unpowered HDD will last longer than a SSD

[random junco]

lots of NAS people are getting nvme ssds though

servers i can agree with

[wheat torrent]

Yes

[vestal stream]

Even hdds have data rot

[wheat torrent]

It depends on the usecase

[random junco]

hmm, maybe the nas is being used as a nas?

[high halo]

Well how about normal use?

[wheat torrent]

Yes but we are comparing them to eachother

[vestal stream]

Fair

[jaunty apex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s81dVUM-cQM

[wheat torrent]

O

[wheat torrent]

Use both and don't worry about it

Both should last a long time

[high halo]

Ik im just curious

I like long lasting things

[wheat torrent]

But they can both just die one day without any sign

I have 2 friends who woke up with their nvme SSD just dead

And recovering data from NVMe SSDs is expensive

[high halo]

Wont software like crystaldiskinfo help before its too late?

[wheat torrent]

You mentioned normal use

[calm latch]

I'm using a prebuilt PC as a server (It was $150 for a Ryzen 5 3600 with 32GB RAM). One annoying think is that FanControl can't see the GPU fans, does anyone have any alternative tools to control GPU fans?

[wheat torrent]

They were using their ssd normally not really monitoring it every month

Your average user never checks their storage devices health

[high halo]

Oh so u can backup before its too late if u monitor ur hdds and ssds

[wheat torrent]

I have a sata ssd in my server that is on 14%, it said it will die in 28 days

Its been 6 months and its still on 14%

[wheat torrent]

You should always backup no matter what If you don't want to lose the data

[wheat torrent]

Why?

[calm latch]

Well, yes and no. CDI reads errors logged in the self diagnostic (SMART). So you have to have had an error before it can find an error. With a lot of the errors you need a few hundred before you see any real issues, but if it's something like a pending sector it can happen really quickly at low numbers (A pending sector is a dead sector it was unable to retrieve data from so that data is just gone).

Also, SMART is completely useless with NVMe drives.

[high halo]

Ur right, maybe adding redundancy also helps

[calm latch]

Fan noise is annoying so I want a curve.

[wheat torrent]

What GPU

[wheat torrent]

But If you give me a SSD and a HDD with important data and tell me to check it in 30 years

And I cannot backup or do anything, I'll take the HDD

[calm latch]

1050 Ti, I gave the one that came with it to my nephews and just grabbed some junk I had lying around. Literally the only thing is does is draw the desktop, I have a headless HDMI plug plugged into it so that remoting in is nicer.

[wheat torrent]

I assume it doesn't have software?

[calm latch]

Lenovo Vantage, but that doesn't even see the CPU fan

This is all Fan Control sees

[wheat torrent]

No I mean the GPU

Its a dedicated GPU?

What brand

[ivory mountain]

why not just use bios

[calm latch]

It's an OEM BIOS, no chance it has any sort of fan control features

Checking the GPU now

[south arrow]

Be like that sometimes

[calm latch]

The subvendor for the GPU is "PCPartner". Where the hell did I find this thing.

[wheat torrent]

Can't even find such thing

[wheat torrent]

This company seems to have multiple products under it

[calm latch]

Maybe MSI Afterburner can find it

[wheat torrent]

Like zotac

Sapphire

You can't physically look what gpu brand it is?

[calm latch]

That's the brand

[wheat torrent]

Zotac/PC partner

[wheat torrent]

There is no pcpartner 1050 ti

There is zotac 1050 ti

I recommend installing MSI after burner

I am seeing some people on reddit flash their own bios

https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/zotac-gtx-1050-ti-oc-edition-fan-speeds.1946

Another instance of people saying to flash bios

Worst case scenario you could swap the GPU fans for standard fans in a DIY fashion if you don't want to flash bios

[calm latch]

I pulled off the side panel and couldn't see any branding on it.

[daring crystal]

https://youtu.be/9cjVGAG0DHg?si=EDLINC8DbyTc0s_e

Cannot wait for my next AI product

[steel umbra]

all we want is sideloading and bootloading

[daring crystal]

More AI

[solid quail]

going to be picking up some more free e-waste soon. This time a b450m mobo, 16gb of ddr4 3200mhz and a 3400G

[steel umbra]

unlockable bootloader ❌
unrestricted sideloading so you don’t have to rely on just playstore and google ❌
ai slop ✅

[daring crystal]

Want my humane pin?

[plain cypress]

You still have that thing

[daring crystal]

Yes

It's next to my Limitless pendant in my graveyard

Oh, and look what's coming to the web platform sometime next year (hopefully): https://nerdy.dev/css-text-grow

[verbal prawn]

Stop buying AI slop bro

[latent gull]

Wait is this thing already dead?

[silk agate]

I wanna put my aio onn the front panel but would i get the cpu part of the cooler to go back inward to the cpu

[proper gull]

Zero thinking has been done here...

Turn it around and put the fans on the other side

[silk agate]

But arent those the intake fans

[proper gull]

The fans can go in either direction on either side of the radiator

[silk agate]

🤯 thanks

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

if only there were a way to flip the tube around

[nimble burrow]

this aint correct right?

[frigid blade]

yes always

[odd marsh]

i mean when's the last time AMD released a card that could compete with a 90 class

[plain cypress]

2020

[sharp ivy]

Peak cooler design

some wavy metal clamped to a slab of copper

[clear canyon]

Is the peak in the room with us? 🥲

😂

[humble cedar]

so this might sound dumb but someone told me i can't use a magnetic screwdriver when building a pc? is this true or nah?

[spice prawn]

As long as it's not strongly magnetized (which most aren't), you should be fine.

[dusk patio]

Nah

the only thing affected by magnets that I can think of is a mechanical hard drive

but the magnets like Noca said would need to be really strong

[humble cedar]

alr tysm guys

[fickle ivy]

I'm genuinely going to smash my laptop against my desk istg

[odd marsh]

you should do it

[fickle ivy]

I'm gonna snap this thing in half

[odd marsh]

do it

[humble cedar]

poor laptop💔

[fickle ivy]

Genuine fuckign e-waste istg whoever decided that this thing should've ever been created needs to be jailed

[fickle ivy]

Don't feels sorry for the damn laptop

It deserves every last thing

[odd marsh]

why haven't you smashed it yet

[empty quartz]

Hai akn

@odd marsh Need a 2tb hdd?

Ignore the hours and health

[fickle ivy]

Because it's my only pc

[odd marsh]

I was gonna say no but that seems to be in prime condition so I am tempted

[fickle ivy]

But I want to smash it so damn bad

It's such a fucking piece of shit

[warped island]

I want to upgrade from my 3060, should I go to AMD radeon's cards or for Nvidia

[odd marsh]

budget?

[warped island]

like 500

so actually nothing from what I'ev heard

[fickle ivy]

This fucking laptop can't even run a 720p video without lagging and I can't tell if it's the shit HDD or the CPU

[odd marsh]

the card I personally recommend is the 5070 Ti, but that's out of the budget so unfortunate. I would check for whatever NVIDIA card you could get seconhand, maybe a 4070 ti or super?

[fickle ivy]

How the hell can a company even make a laptop this horrendously bad

[warped island]

well AMD is a thing so there might be options there, I can look and do some more research.

[fickle ivy]

Like genuinely I don't understand it, how was this ever meant to even be usable for anything

[warped island]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-money-giveittome-mr-krabs-spongebob-gif-4184913

[odd marsh]

yeah I just like to recommend Nvidia as I think the current feature suite can make the cards last longer, and is better than AMDs offerings

[fickle ivy]

I would say more but it would get me banned instantly

[balmy tapir]

😭

[balmy tapir]

what laptop?!

[fickle ivy]

XP pavilion x360 convertible
14-ba007ca

[grizzled frost]

say no more

[fickle ivy]

It's only 8 years old but runs like it's from the 90s

[grizzled frost]

you could have stopped at HP, pavilion is even worse, x360 even worse

the hinge is practically made of hopes and dreams

[warped island]

I had an HP laptop that is only 6 years old and it died because it wanted to

so now its E waste

[fickle ivy]

$1000 for e-waste

Pissing me off so much istg

[balmy tapir]

hp used to have wonderful products, truly a fumble on their part tbh

[fickle ivy]

Oh the hinge is fucked already but I'm fine with that

It's just that it takes 15 minutes to open chrome then another 15 minutes to load 1 page, then can't even run 720p video smoothly

[balmy tapir]

i mean you have what, a 4 core 8th or 9th gen?

assuming you aren't over exaggerating, id guess your drive is dying

[fickle ivy]

2 core i3

7th gen

[warped island]

thats the problem

[balmy tapir]

damn and still running windows 10?

[fickle ivy]

Couldn't even fit this thing with an i5 or i7

Nope, 7100u

[fickle ivy]

Yeah

[balmy tapir]

at this point id switch to linux on the laptop tbh

you dont got much compute for any of the windows only programs, and a lighter distro could free up some of the cpu and ram and make it functional as web machine

even chromeOS could be good

[empty quartz]

:3

[balmy tapir]

rip drive

[ivory mountain]

should i try to get my kit from cl28 to cl26 just to say i did it and for no other reason because it gives no performance gain

[empty quartz]

@balmy tapir look at the fucking hours on that drive tho

[wheat torrent]

wait

LINus BEARD is back

[cyan bay]

uh probably ryzen 5 7500f planning on getting A620-m instead of b650 since it costs a lot

[wheat torrent]

if you plan to get a much better CPU later on the a620 might be limiting on full performance

[shy arch]

Bro buy any sata ssd and install linux. boom.

[hard cedar]

time to retire the poor launch day 360 elite controller with heavy stick drift

right bumper barely works

[left dove]

god that thing is worn as fuck

[hard cedar]

yep

used it from launch day to present day

[grim moon]

I don't even think you can call that stick drift anymore. Gotta come up with a new term for that

[left dove]

Could.. could you maybe get some sheets to cover your very stained mattress

eugh.

[hard cedar]

its not stained 😭

its the light that makes it look like that

[grim moon]

Nah homie thats literal dirt

[hard cedar]

i clean it every day

[left dove]

those are two different colors of mattress

that bitch needs steam cleaned

[hard cedar]

alr i can try getting it steam cleaned lol

Both of em are so worn down

[fickle ivy]

My 360 controller still works great 😔

[hard cedar]

not mine lol

[fickle ivy]

To be fair I've never had a controller get stick drift or anything

[hard cedar]

right bumper on the elite controler almost dosent work

both controllers are launch day lol

[hard cedar]

lucky you

[swift stream]

i genuinely don't get how someone is a cat person

[shy arch]

Nope. Just no.

Sure dogs are loyal and aren't dumb

[swift stream]

i luv dogs 🙏 🫰

[shy arch]

But cats are so blackmailing

[eager mango]

finally back on windows 10

[grizzled frost]

as opposed to what?

[hard cedar]

i love rabbits more tbh

[shy arch]

Also biggest reason is that dogs are much more high-maintenance than cats

[eager mango]

windows 11

[grizzled frost]

why would you downgrade to an EoL OS?

[hard cedar]

yeah

instead hop on the 360 with the party

[eager mango]

intel i5 4570\

[grizzled frost]

i mean if you had win11 on it, what made you want to switch back?

[eager mango]

first of all i did a workaround via rufus, im on TMP 1.2 and you need TMP 2.0

so im very below requirements, i couldnt run games easily anymore and it was a mess

[grizzled frost]

ah okay, upgrade your pc dude

win10 is only going to become more of a security risk over time

[eager mango]

i dont have enough money

[eager mango]

i dont download sketch stuff, im pretty safe with what i choose to download

[shy arch]

I think you need linux dude

[grizzled frost]

which is great and all, but there will only be more and more vulnerabilities found over time

[eager mango]

nope

[shy arch]

Some r so easy to use and install

[eager mango]

ill upgrade when i have the funds, for now ill just have to live with it

[spare laurel]

just fyi, this is not a good prevention, why do u think windows xp machines gets exploited the moment they are on the internet?

save up for a new pc that can use win 11, gl dude

[eager mango]

how long until its just super bad

[spare laurel]

id say right now maybe about 1-2 years max, but the sooner you get off it the better

[grizzled frost]

impossible to say

[spare laurel]

since youre also using the standard branch and not iot ltsc

[shy arch]

Or you could buy one of those aliexpress CPU + Mobo + RAM combos with those xeon cpu's 😈

[grizzled frost]

there could be a known massive exploit right now that has simply yet to be used

[eager mango]

how much

[shy arch]

$50 cad for cpu and mobo

doubles when u add the ram

[grizzled frost]

or there might not be, it’s impossible to say with any certainty

[shy arch]

ddr4 mobo supports m.2 and everything

[eager mango]

itx?

[spare laurel]

it sounds like hes using ddr3, a combo that supports both ddr3/ddr4 is still doable

[shy arch]

matx i believe. they were server parts refurbished and altered for PCs

[spare laurel]

ofc thats not considering power bill to run old server parts

[shy arch]

just go on aliexpress and search cpu motherboard ram combo

[eager mango]

i dont really want my house caught on fire

ill live with w10 for the next 2 years max

[shy arch]

PSU is the thing that'll set ur house on fire

[spare laurel]

^

[shy arch]

2 years shouldn't be that bad

[spare laurel]

spend on a good psu, but your mobo + ram can be from aliex

a good psu can last you years

[eager mango]

i have the li lani 850 w something, very future proof

SFF

[spare laurel]

thats a good psu

[eager mango]

yep

[spare laurel]

https://aliexpi.com/Fmt

you can consider something like this, if you have the extra bucks to spend

they are essentially recycled c612 server chipsets, rebranded as x99

[eager mango]

im just tryna find a job, very difficult currently.

the second i do ill likely get a whole new system, but maybe keep my psu and possibly gpu, not sure yet

[spare laurel]

good luck man

[hard cedar]

Love using a broken screen ony phone

[grizzled frost]

how the hell did you take a screenshot of screen artifacts

that’s a hardware issue, not the screen

[hard cedar]

idk

ohh

i got it refurbished from wallmart

[grizzled frost]

if the screen was the problem, it wouldn’t be present in screenshots

[hard cedar]

and it came like this

[grim moon]

Return that shit

[grizzled frost]

since screenshots save the raw video output, not what is displayed on the screen

[cosmic idol]

Sounds like a hardware or network issue

[hard cedar]

i can only try;-;

[hard cedar]

ohh kk

[sinful cobalt]

sp850?

[hard cedar]

i had 2 phones like this from fucking wallmart refurbished

[eager mango]

they have to.

not sure on your countries law, but here we have a consumer garuntee act which is pretty much a warranty on every single item, even if they dont provide one

[hard cedar]

both of em were the same phone too

[eager mango]

possibly

[grim moon]

Sounds like you shouldn't be buying Walmart refurbs

[hard cedar]

lg k61

[hard cedar]

yeah

[sinful cobalt]

sp850 v1 is like rated F btw

[grim moon]

most big box store refurbs are trash anyhow

[hard cedar]

atp its just cooked

[shy arch]

Never tried refurbs before

[eager mango]

dont think so, mines 80 platnium, not gold

[sinful cobalt]

is it the L shaped

[eager mango]

L shapes psu?

[shy arch]

Fr

[grim moon]

I've seen mostly bad reviews for refurbs. Best Buy, Amazon, and apparently Walmart has some pretty garbage ones

[shy arch]

Bruh

[grim moon]

L shaped psu is the Lian Li Edge

I love mine

[shy arch]

I mean i wouldnt trust a walmart refurb anyways

[grim moon]

Yeah me neither

[eager mango]

i got my referb from a small bussiness, first one had a fucked motherboard issue, got it replaced by the same people for free and this ones been perfect. 120 usd iphone 12, cant complain.

either a hit or a miss, its all luck

[hard cedar]

is it normal that my phone just freezes after the temperature drops at more then -8 outside? it just stops working and freezes

[grim moon]

Note I'm not using the Platinum one. The Gold rated is the "refresh" and is better from what I've seen

[eager mango]

yes

[grizzled frost]

-8c or -8f

[hard cedar]

-8c

[grizzled frost]

not unheard of

[balmy tapir]

what phone?

[grim moon]

yeah probably normal but obv you have other issues with your phone so

[hard cedar]

lg k61

[hard cedar]

i mean its slow af

youtube takes 3 mins to load

[balmy tapir]

i will say during winter ill use my iphone 13 pro in less below -10c and have no issues

[eager mango]

get an iphone my bro, theyre not too much if youre on the referbed market, espically models like the x or the 11

[grim moon]

I mean its a 5 year old budget phone.

[balmy tapir]

only when outside in the cold?

[hard cedar]

im not touching iphone after crap service i get with them

[hard cedar]

no

mostly happens outside in the cold but usualy youtube also dose the same thing

and after some time the whole phone crashes

[balmy tapir]

i would guess the battery is getting too cold and providing less voltage? not really sure tbh

[grim moon]

Yeah you need to return that. That's beyond non-functional

[balmy tapir]

it does seem like your phone may just be bad

[hard cedar]

no idea

[hard cedar]

my past phone (s22) kept overheating

and it went over 100c after the one ui 8 update

[grim moon]

Just stop having a phone atp lmao

[balmy tapir]

3 phones with issues screams user error 😭

[hard cedar]

one day the screen stopped working, it kept heating up to dangerous levels, put it in the freezer so it dosent go on fire

[hard cedar]

they were all refurbished or passed down from my parents

atp even my ipod touch works better

lg dosent even provide updates annymore for my phone

they completly stopped

[grizzled frost]

batteries die quicker in the cold

[cobalt yoke]

i have this old 2.5 inch hard drive and i have it jst unmounted behind cables on top on a full drive bay, ive been using it for 2 weeks no problems, is it smthn i should be worried about?

[balmy tapir]

that is true, but can also provide a lower voltage, due to an increase in resistance

[hard cedar]

right

[hard cedar]

i got the same issues lol you shoud be fine

[cobalt yoke]

Alr thanks

[balmy tapir]

i mean as long as its not a super important drive lol. i would expect some decrease in lifespan if its just floating around in the case

then again its an older 2.5" drive, so its probably out of a laptop id guess, and in that case im not sure if mounting it proper would do anything tbh

[hard cedar]

all my drives are like this even my c drive because my case didint come with mounts and i mean its fine for now

[grizzled frost]

2.5in hard drives also just have a reduced lifespan

[balmy tapir]

i mean harddrive in general should be mounted to prevent vibration damage, ssds can float around all day though