tech-chat-1

[steel umbra]

pick the cheapest you can find at any retail store with more than like 200 actual reviews

[craggy cove]

40€ poo

[proven radish]

But there is one that is white with three fans, one with two fans that is black?

Which is it

[craggy cove]

model names would be helpful

[proven radish]

ofc

• Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5060 Ti AERO OC 16G grafikkort

• ASUS Dual GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 16 GB GDDR7 OC Edition

[steel umbra]

cheapest

[craggy cove]

the gigabyte one is probably better but its also white

and yeah also cost

[swift stream]

what is the best tech server?

[craggy cove]

best tech server to lose brain cells is ztt

[dusty dew]

yeah, but this thing screams nokia build body man

also its decent

[ashen hearth]

What's the best way to add a new cable to the PSU if I already got everything cabled?

[dusty dew]

they should have named Skyline the last "Nokia" of their line as a Nokia badged phone, then peeps will prolly yearn for them for more

[ashen hearth]

I can't reach the far away part. Do I have to remove the PSU?

[craggy cove]

seems reachable imo but you can just disconnect the cables from the psu temporarily

[shy olive]

Guys with current ram prices is it possible to sell 2x1gb ram ddr2 for 5$?

[ashen hearth]

I have hand joints problems so it's kinda difficult to reach it for me. I'll try my best

[dusty dew]

also @craggy cove correction, I got it at exactly 154 USD

[craggy cove]

pretty good price

[dusty dew]

yep, premium for 154

[shy olive]

?

[craggy cove]

you can get gold from them

but uhh i dont think ddr2 prices change

[shy olive]

It’d be worthless lowkey

[ornate harbor]

Man i wish i had a 850W psu

[dusty dew]

I wonder where is my case and SD card though

[shy olive]

I mean if i list them in ebay as ‘identify as 16gb ddr5’ and list them for 5$ i could get sales

It was a mistake

[craggy cove]

well do you need one tho

[ornate harbor]

Would be nice so i can use 2 gpus

[dusty dew]

oh lol, quite lucky

my phone went in last night, since the next delivery set would be 3 days later

[shy olive]

Guys is there anyway to traverse through the bios without a keyboard

[ornate harbor]

in UEFI just use a mouse

[dusty dew]

my case and microsd now stuck until 7 dec

[shy olive]

Any other way

[shy olive]

Next year?

[ornate harbor]

Idk, i only know in the new UEFI you can use a mouse, the old ones keyborad only i think

[ocean axle]

why do you want to use two GPUs?

[shy olive]

I see

[ornate harbor]

Doing some AI stuff

[empty quartz]

@ocean axle do you happen to know much about data recovery?

[dusty dew]

no, like 3 days later

[ocean axle]

nope

[shy olive]

Okay cool

[empty quartz]

Shit

[ocean axle]

why do you ask though?

[dusty dew]

its slowest ETA was supposed to be 6 dec

[shy olive]

Can get some rams?

[ornate harbor]

What

[ocean axle]

deditated wams, idk whats not to understand

[shy olive]

Ai stuff you gotta have ram sticks no?

[ornate harbor]

yeah

[shy olive]

Man i gotta do ai stuff

[empty quartz]

Gotta get some reccs for free data recovery software (preferably open source to not risk getting a virus on my system)

[ornate harbor]

Why

[shy olive]

Rams

[empty quartz]

No

[ocean axle]

ok, but why do you need it?

[ornate harbor]

Buy more ram

[shy olive]

400$

Too much

[empty quartz]

Accidentally wiped the wrong drive when trying to get a ssd set up for a system

[ocean axle]

ive only once done a drive recovery iirc because i fucked up formatting, and i dont remember what software i used

[ornate harbor]

I had a workstation with 96GB ram but it broke down few weeks ago

[ocean axle]

ahh, yup, same thing, that checks out

[shy olive]

Give me the ram i’ll make them work somehow

[empty quartz]

I hopefully didnt just lose 1.3tb of data

[ocean axle]

yea, idk, but thats the easy kind of data recovery to do

[midnight wind]

how wiped did you wipe it, what did you do

[ornate harbor]

Its DDR3 ECC though

[shy olive]

I’ll take 60% of them and you take the 40% so its fair

[ocean axle]

first thing id do is dump the drive's block device

[shy olive]

I have ddr2 1gigs bro anything works

[empty quartz]

According to diskdrill, the data is still there

[midnight wind]

yeah you definitely want to work from a clone of the drive just in case

[ornate harbor]

I think i got 32GB DDR3 ECC in 2x 16GB left and about 80-100GB normal DDR3

[shy olive]

How much would that be

[empty quartz]

Accidentally did a diskpart clean (just remove partition and partition scheme)

[ocean axle]

so, on linux, with a larger device also connected, do a sudo dd if=/dev/sdX of=/whereever/you/want/it/driveimage.raw

then you can work with that and not risk the actual data

[ornate harbor]

Idk i didnt look up DDR3 prices

[midnight wind]

One way is you might be able to guess what the partition layout is

[empty quartz]

Guid

[shy olive]

Lemme see

[ocean axle]

yup, any quickformat (like clean) will just overwrite the partition table, and thats it

[midnight wind]

I meant like the actual partition sizes and positions

[empty quartz]

1 partition

Ill check later after work

[shy olive]

Highest i could find

[midnight wind]

You can probably just create a new partition table (make a clone first and work off of the clone), with one gpt partition in the entire drive, and that would fix it

[shy olive]

That would be like 100$ a piece

[empty quartz]

You need 4x8gb gskill trident x 2400

[shy olive]

I see

[ocean axle]

usually doing stuff like that will assume you want empty, and clean the first "node"

[ocean axle]

so, it doesnt give you the files back, unless you copy over just the partition table

[empty quartz]

I have that same 3d print for all my dimms

[ocean axle]

that first stick is put in wrong...

[midnight wind]

Probably depends on the program, I only know in terms of Linux CLI commands, which fdisk or parted wouldn't overwrite anything

[ornate harbor]

W

[calm gate]

just did this shit to heat up my room.
it worked 😭

[ivory mountain]

holy fuck

[midnight wind]

you can tell because if it would wipe the drive when creating a new partition table, it'll have a warning about destroying ssds and it'll take forever

unless it does nvme secure erase

[ocean axle]

i dont mean overwrite the whole drive

[ornate harbor]

@shy olive I got 48GB DDR3 ECC in 3x 16GB

[empty quartz]

I guarantee my mac pro 3,1 did a better job

[empty quartz]

Rookie

[ornate harbor]

I got about 100GB normal ddr3 too

[ocean axle]

i may be thinking more at the FS level though, where that'll write out the little bit it needs to think the entire area is empty, even if old data is still there

[empty quartz]

I think i have about 200-400gb, ill check after work

[ornate harbor]

make your own AI datacenter atp

[ocean axle]

just DDR3, or in total?

[midnight wind]

Hmm maybe, I wouldn't expect most programs to do that without explicitly enabling it though?

[frigid blade]

AI on DDR3 bandwidth?

lol

[ornate harbor]

Depending on the LLMs it might work

[ocean axle]

if i were to format a drive's partition table, and make a new one, id expect it to clean enough so that an old FS wont be automatically picked up

[frigid blade]

You’re not running anything tiny in a data center

[proven radish]

If anyone can help me with my AM4 gaming build for about 1100$ dm me

[ocean axle]

i dont have much DDR3 anymore, but ive got more DDR4 than that in one system

[frigid blade]

I got something cool to send in a sec, made more progress

[ornate harbor]

Eh you could run a 40B gguf qith 200t/s

[frigid blade]

Yah cuz all of it will be in VRAM

[ornate harbor]

Use AMD instinct MI50 with 32GB HDM2, you can get them 150-200€

They got some good AI power on them

[ocean axle]

ehh, the MI50 isn't that fast of a card

probably one of the cheapest 32GB cards though

[midnight wind]

Oh I didn't think about that

[frigid blade]

you can skip the windows install, and the connection errors (the VM was still starting)

[ornate harbor]

Well if you are running a DDR3 system your GPu will be limited anyways

[ocean axle]

no?

[ornate harbor]

Yes

[frigid blade]

what? if ur running in VRAM it doesnt matter what DRAM you have

[ocean axle]

with LLMs, there is so much GPU work, a DDR3 system could likely keep up for inference

[ornate harbor]

Yeah but most locally running llms dont run 100% on vram

[ocean axle]

thats only if you dont have enough vram

[frigid blade]

most properly set up LLMs run within VRAM

[ornate harbor]

Guess my pc is just bad then

[ocean axle]

whats your PC?

[ornate harbor]

R5 5600, 32GB DDR4 3600Mhz, ARC A750 OC

[shy olive]

My dream pc🙏

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zrCCfd

[frigid blade]

yah thats not that good of a pc for running LLMs locally

[ocean axle]

so, you have an 8GB GPU, you aren't fitting much in that vram

[frigid blade]

I cant even fit 70B models in my 4090 VRAM I think

[shy olive]

Who

[ornate harbor]

I tried a tried ggufs that only take up 4GB Vram and its still system memory offloading

[shy olive]

My dream pc seems perfect and all round

[frigid blade]

das what all this dram is for

[ocean axle]

^, A750 is an 8GB GPU

[frigid blade]

(ignore the speeds, im gonna mess with it when im back home)

[ornate harbor]

I know

I bought it

[ocean axle]

not you, answering @shy olive's question

[ornate harbor]

ah

[frigid blade]

sounds like you've misconfigured something somewhere

[ornate harbor]

I mean i can fit RDR2 on 3440x1440p in 8GB Vram but not a gguf

[ornate harbor]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[frigid blade]

GGUF doesnt say much, thats just a format

[ornate harbor]

rn im running 7 or 8B mostly

Q5KM or 4KM

[frigid blade]

lemme see i have to reinstall lm studio

[ornate harbor]

Anything LLM works too but it take up even more memory

[lapis furnace]

Kinda wild tbh

[craggy cove]

ryzen 5 5500 didnt work on a new b450... do i want to gamble that it needed a bios update?

[clear canyon]

yes bios update

[craggy cove]

but theres a chance they updated the bios in the factory

[clear canyon]

it will likely work out of the box

[craggy cove]

like ehhh

damn they do update the bios, atleast in this video i watched

[glossy axle]

where can i get a windows 11 pro key

[craggy cove]

but here its not

[proven radish]

Im from Sweden and I want to do my first pc build. For around 1100$ for gaming like flight simulation (msfs). I need tips on what graphics card, case and ram I should get mainly and suggestions for what I currently have in my amazon shopping cart. I have found a RTX 5060 ti 16GB for 508$ on a swedish site but not sure if that is worth or if i should get a weaker GPU.

I currently have in my cart:

Thermal paste
Spatium M482 NVMe M.2 1TB SSD
AMD RYZEN 7 5800X
Thermalright Aqua Elite 240 ARGB CPU cooler
ASUS TUF Gaming 750W PSU
MSI B760 Gaming plus WiFi DDR4

Can I get stuff for AM5? I dont know, any help is appreciated

Do I need more stuff? I have never done this before

Someone told me that the cpu and the motherboard is uncompatible but I dont know what to change it to

[craggy cove]

you can get them for free actually

[glossy axle]

🤔

[craggy cove]

the 5800x is not am5, and that motherboard is for intel

https://se.pcpartpicker.com/

use this, it automatically finds the best price and checks for compatibility

[proven radish]

Oh okay

What other motherboard should I get

[swift moss]

i need this

[clear canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/special-week-umamusume-uma-musume-horse-agreement-gif-7959356685711101991

[craggy cove]

5€ on aliexpress probably

[swift moss]

good point

LOL

[craggy cove]

also why does nobody iron their flags

[craggy cove]

expected

[swift moss]

so real why is it all creased up out of the packaging just seems like a reseller

might be too shitty to iron

[craggy cove]

too stupid

[swift moss]

fabric burns at 50c 😭

[craggy cove]

dropshippers are the lowest class in society

[swift moss]

sounds about right if you are genuinely hanging this up on ur wall, or dropshipping it, either works

i want a blahaj but i have nowhere to put it

[tired bear]

melty

[craggy cove]

corner of bed

[craggy cove]

sounds like a skill issue

[tired bear]

i dont have any shitty flags 🔥

[craggy cove]

bleh

[frail topaz]

Holy shit i had the biggest jumpscare ever i added a ssd to my system and when i went to boot it was showing the dram light for a long time, reseated the ram and its working now but holy shit that scared the life out of me and my wallet

[craggy cove]

yeah dram errors are cool arent they

[frail topaz]

Terrifying, especially now

[stray portal]

am i doing the right thing switching to ubuntu? ive checked and most of my workflow works atleast decently on linux and im not impaired by anything but
the main reason i want to do it is cuz windows keeps breaking every update they add and adding ai slop that ruins even the file explorer, and i honestly dont want that i want a stable os

rn im on windows 24h2 so im not experiencing the worst of the issues but idk if i wanna risk it.. its my pc that i spent so much money on why should microsoft be able to break it without asking me so am i doing the right thing? or should i keep using windows

[craggy cove]

ryzen loves doing that to me for whatever reason

[frail topaz]

first time its happened to me

[ivory mountain]

i get scared sometimes then i realize that teamgroup warranty has been good to me

[craggy cove]

people dont like ubuntu for whatever reason

all i know

search best linux distro if you want to lose hours and your brain cells

[frail topaz]

was Asus high while designing this cooling system

[ivory mountain]

just use what you want and stop listening to people larp

[stray portal]

for me its ubuntu

[craggy cove]

hopes and dreams

[stray portal]

i know about others and i mained them for a long time but i never had good experience personally

[frail topaz]

no wonder this thing always screams, god this laptop is so shit

[stray portal]

im scared it will break since steam games arent natively supported but idk i shouldnt be cuz proton is good

[ivory mountain]

most games without kernel anticheat are fine

[craggy cove]

hinges also supported by hopes and dreams

[frail topaz]

Not to mention rhe shitty plastic frame, one antennae, display RIDDLED with issues and so much more

[ashen hearth]

Why is this thing so damn hard to press

[craggy cove]

that patented keyboard against the screen mark

[frail topaz]

👨‍🍳👨‍🍳👨‍🍳

[frail topaz]

God its not even in one spot and it cant be wiped off

Just purchased a thinkpad x9 15" aura tho

[stray portal]

I dont play those 🤑

[topaz shale]

arch btw?

[stray portal]

Spyware games they dont need access to my kernel

[wheat torrent]

https://www.protondb.com/explore

[frail topaz]

Debian 13 im too used to apt

[wheat torrent]

just look yourself

[frail topaz]

If id gotten a classic designed thinkpad id do arch

[wheat torrent]

quite a few games haev kernel level AC

[stray portal]

I play counter strike, world of tanks, roblox (works through sober) and minecraft (native linux) so im good

also cities skylines but that works too

[craggy cove]

i might start playing cs2 premier again if they add kernel level anticheat

[rose stream]

Well, yesn't. I'm more thinking of the access to all the available pools of ram on each device that could be accessed via ReBAR on the PCIe bus in general, or at least that's what I was understanding from how the topic was approached?

Bolshevik (the Reggie guy) mentioned something about SAM (AMD's branded ReBAR feature) and said it "could allow the gpu to access the ssd" and I was just like "that's... Not how it's supposed to work" and I ended up theorizing how that would even be implemented if it was actually possible at all.

Really though, that's not how it works or is supposed to, and if it was a thing, it's hard to imagine how that would be implemented, let alone if it would make sense or not.

[proven radish]

https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/wHCCfd

I need to pick the final parts and tell me if its good or if i should change anything (for gaming like flight sim)

[stray portal]

I encounter tons of hackers on cs2 and i still beat them

Most hackers dont know how to play

[stray portal]

To hack good you have to actually be good st the game

[stray portal]

cs2 is native

[wheat torrent]

you lose to cheaters and you dont even know they are cheating

[ivory mountain]

im so ass at that game

[stray portal]

Its perfect 👌

[proven radish]

Great but not everything is added Like Motherboard, Memory (I dont wanna spend too much but I want 32GB), and case

It is my first pc build

[stray portal]

You have am4 cpu which uses ddr4 ram which still has good pricing

And for mobo let me check

[muted wind]

Where should I ask for advice between 2 computers

[stray portal]

I would go for something gigabyte since i trust them the most

[proven radish]

Ok but I dont really know much

Got an exact reccomendation?

[craggy cove]

"hackers"

20k premier they just shoot you through walls n dgaf about vac live

[south arrow]

#1027757333117415424 ❤️

[ivory mountain]

i will hand it to valorant i havent seen a single cheater that anticheat is great

[craggy cove]

true

instead of cheaters they have smurfs every game

[ivory mountain]

holy my frames are being nuked

[steel umbra]

i recommend raising taxes for the uneducated and giving money to the highly educated

infinite money glitch

[ivory mountain]

good idea

[unique belfry]

£4000 12k film camera

[steel umbra]

actually i do that so i don’t have to deal with lack of educated workforce

in every run i do now

you just gotta make them happy

by that i mean spamming 100 mini parks

[swift moss]

i have a single 😢

[tawny zephyr]

i installed new system on new pc and sometimes I can and sometimes I can't search phrases, open links, do ping, I installed all drivers please help and thanks in advance

[stray portal]

Let me look for one rq but i would go for a b550 that fits your budget

[swift moss]

ursa cine 12k?

[stray portal]

a b570 isnt really needed unless you wanna overclock (useless)

[proven radish]

Great tysm

[heavy horizon]

Can someone help me build a pc I already have some parts I’m reusing which is saving me around 1000 dollars

[topaz shale]

yeah i can help but its gonna cost you 1 thousand dollars for my time

[ivory mountain]

😭

[stray portal]

What parts

[topaz shale]

theres a channel you can make a post in #1106613567966429224 add some details there

[stray portal]

Gurt let him speak

[empty quartz]

Getting better with le mbp

[stray portal]

Im here to help him

[heavy horizon]

I have all the storage, a gpu, and a cpu fan

[tawny zephyr]

can anybody help me?

[heavy horizon]

I have 4 tbs of ssd so uh

[topaz shale]

so you will spend 1 thousand dollars on ram

[stray portal]

hmm that doesnt really help us here what are those

[heavy horizon]

I’ll send you a message

[topaz shale]

nah you can talk here man im just messing with you

[unique belfry]

no, blackmagicdesign

[swift moss]

blackmagic makes the ursa

[stray portal]

What are these names

[opal rune]

Hey hey, if anyone knows a bit about Hard Drives especially Sata SSDs and why they would just randomly stop working after being put into a new PC, i'd really appreciate some help
https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1446241100229640292

[stray portal]

Black dih magic bear 💔💔

[ivory mountain]

😭

[heavy horizon]

I didn’t want to flood the chat with images

[heavy horizon]

I messaged you the parts I own currently

[unique belfry]

not my camera, its my friend's. aso i think its the PYXIS 12K

[swift moss]

yeah that's the one

[unique belfry]

i wish i could afford a camera like that

[swift moss]

i wouldn't say they are worth it for anything outside of high high end cinematography

all you need is like an sony alpha7 III

[ivory mountain]

make a thread in #1106613567966429224

[unique belfry]

yeah hes filming something for netflix, its a horror film i think

[heavy horizon]

I did it has all the info, just got my wisdom teeth pulled I’m bored and I want to build me a new working pc I have nothing to do man

[swift moss]

or if you want exclusively cine the bmd pocket 6k is good too

[ivory mountain]

that shit sounds like it hurts so bad glad mine arent causing issues

[swift moss]

oh cool

[unique belfry]

yeah hes been a cameraman for nearly 20 years i think, freelance

[heavy horizon]

It doesn’t hurt it’s more so the fact I’m unable to work at my work place since it is physical and I can’t do any activities

[unique belfry]

he also does all the editing (you can see his glorious desk in the background)

[swift moss]

nicee

i like editing

[swift stream]

what about pcmr

[swift moss]

need me one of these 😭

[unique belfry]

he tried to teach me but i think ill start with something simpler and cheaper than davinci resolve

[swift moss]

what does he use?

[unique belfry]

dang that looks nice

[swift moss]

you can't even buy one

[unique belfry]

DaVinci Resolve

[swift moss]

yeah that's good

[swift moss]

that's the rental part in arri rental

[unique belfry]

rare? more expensive than the averafe salary?

[supple mist]

Why is having an OS on a dramless ssd considered not good?

[swift moss]

they don't sell them full stop, they are proprietary CMOS sensors and they cost like 5k a day to hire

[unique belfry]

danggg

[craggy cove]

no experience but it has that vibe

[swift moss]

ah there 300k per body but I don't think many people outside of contracts can get them

[unique belfry]

im stuck with a 50 megapixel motorola phone its really sad, whenever i see something i like and want to take a photo it comes out looking like i wiped the lense with my ass

[unique belfry]

faints

[swift moss]

it's more about composition and ideas for me

[unique belfry]

im pretty good at the whole getting a decent photo thing but my camera makes everything look oranger than trump

[swift moss]

oh i swap the camera on mine to shoot pure raw

[unique belfry]

i mean... you can see how bad it is...

[swift moss]

this is on a film camera

[unique belfry]

woah

[swift moss]

sorry that's a dslr 😭

[unique belfry]

1. amazing photo
2. amazing buildings

[swift moss]

here for example

[gleaming rose]

that doesn't look like film

[swift moss]

yes yes i was boutta say

but i'm just saying, shit photos and quirky grading can be a plus sometimes

[unique belfry]

your camera is better than my eyes (i need glasses, quite badly)

[swift moss]

ill show some stuff I take with my phone on travels

[unique belfry]

im kiding

my eyes arent that bad

[gleaming rose]

I shot this on film

[unique belfry]

kittehhhh!!

[proven radish]

ASUS Tuf gaming 750W or 850W for a 5060 ti 16GB? They both cost the same amount of money

[clear canyon]

why did you shoot the cat :(

[gleaming rose]

meow

[clear canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/utena-hiiragi-anime-anime-girl-magical-girl-gif-3162831697063598185

[swift moss]

@unique belfry yes they all look shit but there's at least a little bit of composition (all of these unedited)

2nd one camera isn't even straight

[unique belfry]

those are really good, are these holiday photos or do you live in (what i assume to be) the Mediterranean?

[swift moss]

1st one catania, 2nd one sorrento

holiday photos

[unique belfry]

nice

my best holiday photos are in malta and gozo

[gleaming rose]

shoes is out here having the nap of his life

[unique belfry]

not sharing them since:

1. they are on my crappy phone
2. i cant be arsed to find them

[swift moss]

once again, a bit of composition

[exotic cape]

Phone?

[swift moss]

z flip 1

[exotic cape]

Better can than on my flip7

[swift moss]

haha thanks i'm sure yours are chill too, its all about keeping the memories for me

looks funny in ultrawide

[unique belfry]

very pretty

[unique belfry]

the sun glare is really cool

[swift moss]

yeah basically ancient egypt pfft

[unique belfry]

lol

[swift moss]

i loved taking photos of plaques for some reason

[swift moss]

of course not all my photos are good either, these are handpicked but i think you just need to find better locations, like the flag on the very right and then the moutains without the house in view would be beautiful

perhaps even a crop could work here

see much better already (in my opinion)

but i have a different vision of course

[exotic cape]

Device in lower left corner

[unique belfry]

pretty nice

[swift moss]

tab a9 is sad 😭

tbf it is a tablet so i'll let it slide

[exotic cape]

S9FE+ is surprisingly decent tho

[swift moss]

yeah true

[muted wind]

$750 CAD for a 5700x and 3070 8gb or $900 CAD for a 12600k and 6800xt 16gb

[exotic cape]

@swift moss took all those as close to eachother and as close to identical as I could.

[swift moss]

yeah it's a good comparison with the detail

[swift moss]

the one shot I had at the sunset it turned out blurry of course

and off center

[exotic cape]

AHH, I see it uploaded the s24U twice.

[unique belfry]

thats a shame about the blur

[swift moss]

i was really rushing to the airport 😭

[boreal vine]

anyone else got their checkpoint ?

[lean flame]

AI is not the future.

[unique belfry]

weve all been there

[swift moss]

what a proclamation

[boreal vine]

I apparently yap allot

[swift moss]

once again it's algs as long as i get the memories back

[swift moss]

;-;

[twin star]

Hi guys. I've been specing out a custom Minecraft Jukebox CD player, would this be about how it works?
(PB = Powerbank, R = Raspbarry Pi, D = CD Drive. The boxes in the top right/left corner are purely for holding the CD drive up, because it will need to be at the top of the box, always.)

[unique belfry]

agreed, it will get out of hand and laws will put it down.

[boreal vine]

RAHhhhh

[unique belfry]

where do you find that? ive never seen that before

[swift moss]

sorrento is wild

[swift moss]

flag up there

[unique belfry]

that looks amazing, i want to go there

[exotic cape]

S22U vs S24U vs Flip7.

[swift moss]

beyootiful place

[boreal vine]

I swear I have more than this

[lean flame]

well it openly steals from artists and is clearly just reading off a script. and it cannot think for itself and never will.

[vague talon]

I only need 1 8 pin connector, to use the left connector or something else?

[swift moss]

zflips aren't the best, I'm taking my zf5 to russia

[unique belfry]

this isnt right, i sent 17000 messages in a discord server i was only in for a month

[swift moss]

i hope not, but who knows

[swift moss]

i spent WAY more time on insta lol this year

[lean flame]

it's strange i don't have one!

[twin star]

If anyone could give me an answer, it'd be highly appreciated. Fwiw, the buttons on the diagram would be external, wired up internally, for things like skip/back, pause etc.

[swift moss]

still somehow not this much

[exotic cape]

Biggest waste of money was getting the flip7 when i was using the 24U. Now i use 2 phones daily.

[swift stream]

dude

[swift moss]

PENSIVE!!!! based

[swift moss]

zf5 was super super cheap so i just copped it

[swift stream]

😔 🫰

[swift moss]

i ideally wanted a pixel 10 but oh well couldn't pass up

[swift moss]

mine is sob BY FAR

then probably 😌 then ☺️

and 🥀 and 💔

[swift stream]

pensive is better than sob

[swift moss]

no sob is laughing or absurd

[lean flame]

i think the future is people.

[swift moss]

in 10000 messages, there are more than 1000 matches of sob LOL

[swift stream]

mine was prob 😔 , 🥶 ,🤓 ,🙄

[swift moss]

257 wilted roses in 10k messages

950 fires

[swift stream]

oh shi wait what

[swift moss]

i wish insta had a recap like this I would find more accurate info lol

i only use sob in discord

[swift stream]

based opinion:
apple replay is better than spotify wrapped

[dusk patio]

my discord wrapped thing didn't even work because of my privacy settings or something

[swift moss]

neither gang

mix of subsonic and ytm

[swift stream]

at least ltt takes number 2 in my servers

[swift moss]

oh dear 😭😭

can u give me some debating servers i'm bored sometimes and I'm not too bad

[fringe prairie]

is this discord wrapped?

[swift moss]

35 minutes in voice is saddening 😭😭

[swift stream]

i had 8 hours

[swift stream]

apple music has music haptics, spatial sound, and monthly reports

[boreal vine]

Shameful

[craggy cove]

tf is a discord wrapped

[boreal vine]

wdym

[craggy cove]

where can i get mine

[swift stream]

just join my server tag i just changed, and it is VERY active 😔

[swift moss]

i have 15k messages sent in 2 months with someone i was talking to a lot (every day)

[craggy cove]

personally i start stupid arguments and let someone argue with chatgpt for 2 hours

[boreal vine]

just about the same as mine then

[swift moss]

idk too much about political debate, i feel like that goes nowhere

[boreal vine]

I have about 150k messages on here

[swift moss]

not anymore though 🥀

[boreal vine]

what do you mean not anymore

[swift moss]

i just don't talk to them as much

[boreal vine]

like you don't speak like that much

Ah fair enough

[wraith bone]

anyone here who hasnt bought cod bo 7 , i have got something for you , US only

[boreal vine]

that's actually fucking shameful ngl, like wtf do you mean I have 150k messages

[swift moss]

what 😭 no plz

[boreal vine]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-rage-bait-baited-rage-baited-angry-dog-gif-2047466162835898859

[charred ledge]

Working on upgrading.. or more so at this point basically replacing my build I built nearly a decade ago that still running Ryzen 5 3600X and a GTX1080. Its finally showing its age and I basically need to upgrade everything. However I was wondering if my power supply would still be good to use in the new build. Its an EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G2 850W. I have had no issues with it, and it should be good enough for my new build. But it did come out in 2014 and is 11 years old now.

[swift moss]

ill take it hehe

[swift moss]

no this is terrible i want to argue with a human

[boreal vine]

it's serviceable, that combo doesn't even push that 850

[wraith bone]

sure you wanna play that game ?

[swift moss]

i'd rather debate about something better, like whether women liked it in the 15th century 😎

[swift moss]

probably i'll try it out at least

[boreal vine]

I would replace it tho for two reasons, 1 it's EVGA, 2 it's older than alot of people that chat here

[swift stream]

holy essay

[swift moss]

someone's clearly never drafted a text

I have so much texts I drafted on obsidian 😭

[swift stream]

you play rivals?

[swift moss]

no

[charred ledge]

Thanks. I was leaning towards that to be on the safer side. Now contemplating if a 6 hour round trip drive to microcenter is worth it for some of those awesome bundle deals on a cpu and mobo

[swift stream]

why in a random chat though

[boreal vine]

might as well, though it's a really bad time to buy right now

[swift moss]

true yeah

[charred ledge]

Hasn't it been a really bad time to buy for like the past 5 years except for like a month or two recently haha

[boreal vine]

it's not even that long tf

[swift stream]

why would you draft a text, that the cringiest shi fr, i use chatgpt 😔

[boreal vine]

i mean you got a point, but it's even more worse now LOL

[swift moss]

wtf man

that's fucked up

idc how little someone meant to me a human reply is the least they deserve

[swift stream]

yeah chatgpt come in clutch

[swift moss]

with emotions and feelings

[dusty dew]

would be interesting to find a cheap 5950X

[swift moss]

or just don't reply if you care about someone so little you're willing to use chatgpt

I hope I don't get
so low in life I use an
AI therapist

[swift stream]

i was joking 🙏 💀

[swift moss]

better be

[wraith bone]

hi @swift moss check ur dms

[swift stream]

imagine being so down bad you use c.ai for therapy

[charred ledge]

I'm looking at the AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D and MSI X870E-P Pro bundle from Microcenter to start it off for $529. Might slowly piece one together with some deals after getting that. It is a bit of a trip to a Microcenter, but the price seems pretty good.

[clear pebble]

any clue as to why this happens?

[zinc matrix]

I know its a bad time to build a pc rn. But if you really need one its probably gonna be the best to buy it rn, right?

[grizzled frost]

it seemingly is only getting worse

[zinc matrix]

yeah so if my friend really needs it rn he needs to buy one asap

[swift moss]

wow good domain name damn

[clear pebble]

cor context, I log in VR, it disables wifi outright, idk why, I then crash a min after I reset the adapter. and I crash at times when in VR also, I've fixed and check ram, did tests, reseat everything factory reset three times, updated bios and everything. it just crashes or resets the PC no even blue screen just black and resets

[swift moss]

but yeah its flipping terrible

[charred ledge]

That's what I'm leaning towards. My rig is a decade old and I'm getting frequent blue screens I cant seem to solve.

[zinc matrix]

yeah my friend wants a new one for his birthday

[swift moss]

"im locked in"

[zinc matrix]

he has a laptop rn but I recently repasted his laptop and his cpu a lil burned

[unique belfry]

ofc the ram prices get strapped to a spacex rocket as soon as i want to buy a computer

[swift moss]

i just hope mine doesn't break, its 5x price rn

[zinc matrix]

soon gpu and ssd prices too

[swift moss]

and now only greedy samsung and decent skynix are left

but it's only a ddr5 sdram shortage

[small cedar]

anyone have any suggestions on a white mechanical 70% keyboard. Don't really want to spend more than £100

[swift moss]

uGHHHHH i need to decide if i have 555usd of components i need

[unique belfry]

the moly is holy

[swift moss]

it's not gonna get better, i'd say its a pretty permanent shortage lol

[unique belfry]

great, that adds about 300 quid to my parts list

[chrome portal]

Should I post my preference sheet for a build here?

[swift moss]

its outta stock rn, but ddr5 modules are just as cheap in china rn

[zinc matrix]

i paid €132 1 year ago 😂

[swift moss]

17usd per 2GB of ram sounds about right usually

[brave brook]

the issue is, even cheap 5950x is too expensive (at least for me, when thinking about an upgrade from 3900x i have in my spare system)

[craggy cove]

black december wth

[swift moss]

literally samsung ddr4 more expensive

[craggy cove]

isnt black friday the week leading up to the actual day

[brave brook]

still not as bad as 2018

[swift moss]

this is honestly a crazy deal I could ship a 40 ton container for free

[craggy cove]

i dont think thats a pc component

[swift moss]

wait where's my free shipping

why cant i ship my 177kg for free

[craggy cove]

wtf google

[swift moss]

honestly this is so overpriced, i can get a 2ton container from shenzhen to nz for 1k quid

[brave brook]

me in 2018

[craggy cove]

#supportlocal

[zinc matrix]

wtffff

[swift moss]

not bad

[zinc matrix]

how

[swift moss]

cheaper to ship for 850 and haul to the largest city

[brave brook]

2018 had a shortage too

[swift moss]

actually maybe not tuaranga to auk is a while

"pay via paypal"

[zinc matrix]

oh really, why?

[swift moss]

the paypal fees must be wild

[brave brook]

datacenters and mobile phones

[zinc matrix]

how long did it take for prices to become normal

[west kettle]

Is a motherboard with only two ram slots always single channel?

[clear canyon]

wtf is that shipping

[clear canyon]

no

[tired bear]

dual channel

[swift moss]

best double exposure ever

[tired bear]

1dpc

[swift moss]

its 7 million capacitors

[brave brook]

~1 year or so? But back then manufacturers increased production. Now they are moving production elsewhere, so there is no such relief coming

[clear canyon]

holy

[west kettle]

Is it not the other way around?

[clear canyon]

no

[west kettle]

Okay

[clear canyon]

a single stick is single channel

if you have 4 slots, putting 2 sticks into the 2 slots thats in the same channel will be single channel

[west kettle]

Thx

[clear canyon]

np

[steel umbra]

mem prices have risen again??

[clear canyon]

its gonna continue to rise

[chrome portal]

Would it be better to buy ram now before prices increase more?

[steel umbra]

who knows

[clear canyon]

its best to hold off

[west kettle]

Can i check what channel # my ram is in windows? Or do you need external tools?

[clear canyon]

well with a major competitor leaving, its gonna

[chrome portal]

What if I plan to buy jan or feb

[clear canyon]

just look at it

[clear canyon]

no one can say

what are you needing?

[chrome portal]

Full build

Or for ram? Ddr5 2x16

[steel umbra]

just crucial no?

[clear canyon]

ur gonna be paying like 300 bucks for that

[clear canyon]

yeah, for now at least

[chrome portal]

400 is what I've seen for a couple

[vague talon]

Ive plugged a new gpu, the fans are spinning, I'm getting an image from it (only on my main monitor) but it doesn't recognize it on task manager and not actually working because I'm stuck on igpu

[clear canyon]

look at 2nd hand tbh, or wait

[chrome portal]

How risky is that

[clear canyon]

I really dont recommend spending that much on ram

[chrome portal]

Also should I look for alternative ram choices?

[clear canyon]

wdym

[chrome portal]

Non ddr5-6000 2x16 ram

[clear canyon]

huh?

you cant mix memory

[brave brook]

luckily i can somehow survive for a while with my 64GB of DDR5, 528GB of DDR4, 32GB of soldered RAM and ~70GB of DDR3 /s

[chrome portal]

Like how different is DDR4

[clear canyon]

if its a ddr5 board, you cant put ddr4

[chrome portal]

Like I said earlier, I don't have a build plan yet

[clear canyon]

you physically cannot put it in a ddr5 board

[chrome portal]

I've just been monitoring the ram prices cuz they've been weird lately

Would buying a ddr4 setup limit me too much in the future?

[west kettle]

Is the difference big between ddr4 and ddr5

[clear canyon]

yes

[west kettle]

In your opinion

[brave brook]

and will be worse for 1-2 years. At best, the prices will stay same, but that is unlikely

[clear canyon]

yeah

the difference not being the ram itself really but what you can use with ddr5 vs ddr4

cpu wise and such

[west kettle]

Makes sense

[chrome portal]

Then why not buy now?

[peak knot]

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2998935/ram-is-so-expensive-samsung-wont-even-sell-it-to-samsung.html

Forced cookies, so open in incognito or similar

[clear canyon]

bc its stupidly priced

[peak knot]

This ain’t good

[clear canyon]

lmao

[chrome portal]

If it's likely that they'll be priced stupidly for one to 2 years and I plan to buy before that anyway, why not by now

[lean flame]

if there's one silver lining to all this once the AI bubble pops, you just know the market is going to be flooded with people desperately trying to sell off their used AI rig hardware!

[clear canyon]

bc I dont see a reason for someone to spend $300 bucks on $110 ram kits

unless you absolutely need a PC, I say wait

[chrome portal]

So if it were you you would wait the one to two years if it took that long?

[clear canyon]

yes

[chrome portal]

Got it

[clear canyon]

I hate seeing ppl waste money on a market thats over priced :(

[lean flame]

it just sucks i'm gonna be stuck with 16gb of ddr4 (I'm on am4)

[chrome portal]

Then is it even worth looking for second hand ram?

[clear canyon]

could be worse, 16gigs is useable

[clear canyon]

could be, deal hunting is always worth a try

[chrome portal]

I might try that then

From what I've seen, everything else looks fairly reasonable in pricing right now

Is that an accurate assessment?

Also where would you go deal hunting for ram

[thorny saddle]

God damn I should have gone SFF a while ago

[clear canyon]

gpus aint and iv heard amd cpus are about to go up

[swift moss]

HMMMM

[clear canyon]

dude is killin it in that pic

[swift moss]

what's with the em dashes though 😭 not neccessary there

[chrome portal]

I thought gpus were always that expensive. I've looked at them a couple times over the last year

[gentle lark]

helping my friend pick out some fans for his PC. he's getting the arctic liquid freezer III pro argb + antec c8. he's considering getting corsair fans for his other case fans and we're wondering how it'd work connecting the RGB and everything else with the aio fans/rgb. any knowledge on this?

[clear canyon]

no lmao

[chrome portal]

To be honest though, I'm not going to wait for everything to go down because at that point I probably won't ever buy a PC

It'd have to be a magical year for everything to be at the price it should

[clear canyon]

thats fine, just do your research and try to deal hunt if you can

[swift moss]

must have swapped the num plate

[thorny saddle]

C3 corvette? Nah bro

[steel umbra]

Oh no... Some phones with equivalent ram are just as expensive as desktop ram

[clear canyon]

thats 2016 lol

[swift moss]

honestly if i'd had 100k (repairs and all) i think it looks good and cop it

[thorny saddle]

I fyou had 100k you can buy an infinite amount of more exciting cars

[swift moss]

you can't find stuff like this here in nz, we're stuck with shoddy bmws

[chrome portal]

Has it ever been like that before or after?

[iron glen]

Shame i was 6 then

[thorny saddle]

in a word - "good"

[clear canyon]

WHAT

[brave brook]

Unfortunately this all goes to special hw, not components usable for us mortals

[clear canyon]

wdym

[proven shoal]

bought this about a week ago

[swift moss]

i think there are better beauties to be had

[iron glen]

It sucks now i want to go back to when i didn't have to worry abt anything

[proven shoal]

and today i bought 32gb stick 4800mhz cl40 for £105?

[clear canyon]

yeah

[clear canyon]

ouch

[swift moss]

lol

[proven shoal]

worst part its crucial

[thorny saddle]

I am sorry

[clear canyon]

no, worse part is the specs

[proven shoal]

and that

[swift moss]

it's really shit interior and rusted ash

[proven shoal]

prob will end up selling it :(

[clear canyon]

damn

[iron glen]

Good luck

[proven shoal]

i already have decent ram on my pc. 2x16gb 6000mhz cl32

[thorny saddle]

C3 vette with an auto - nothing more barfle

[proven shoal]

this is for my nas which i am planning to build

[thorny saddle]

whats the spec

[proven shoal]

got a 12500t coming in hopefully tomorrow

[proven shoal]

this ram

not sure when thats coming tho

[chrome portal]

Would you wait for another year like that to buy?

[proven shoal]

got a free aio and case which is already here

[clear canyon]

we havent had another year like 2016

[proven shoal]

mobo - MSI MPG Z790I EDGE

[chrome portal]

Sounds like kind of a unicorn. I'm probably not going to wait for a year where everything is perfect

[clear canyon]

no, it was just a good time

[proven shoal]

128gb sata ssd and 8tb harddrive for now

[clear canyon]

nvidias top of the line was like 700 bucks

everything was reasonable

[chrome portal]

Nice

[proven shoal]

bucks is now midrange gpu

[clear canyon]

entry

[proven shoal]

i always wanted a 1080ti

[proven shoal]

true

[clear canyon]

msrp its midrange but not its actual prices

[iron glen]

You'd wait forever

[chrome portal]

Let's say that theoretically I find a good deal on RAM. Would it be a good time to buy now? Or maybe in February or January?

[chrome portal]

That's what I'm saying

[clear canyon]

whats the deal

[zinc matrix]

now

ram price just gonna go up

[iron glen]

Can't wait for the 2026 ram shortage

[chrome portal]

I'm just making things up but :$150 for two sticks of DDR5 -6000 2X16

[clear canyon]

i mean thats expensive but cheap with current prices

[chrome portal]

That's what I thought

[clear canyon]

I got a 32gig kit 6000mhz cl30 for 110 bucks

[chrome portal]

With that, would it be bad to buy now in your opinion?

[proven shoal]

bro this is how much i paid for mobo + cpu + ram 2 years ago

[clear canyon]

right now, no

[chrome portal]

Alright

[proven shoal]

honestly hotukdeals is saving my ass.
I put alerts on for ddr5 memory and managed to find 2 decent deals in the past week or so

[rigid fjord]

@thorny saddle you might like this for those jst connectors you've had to repair/replace https://www.printables.com/model/78962-jst-xh-protection-sleeve

[thorny saddle]

It's been awhile but I'll check it out

[proven shoal]

i am tempted to 3d print a nas case

[rigid fjord]

found a similar one for dupont's also

and going to be printing this one out due to the ender 3 neo i have as it is

jst connectors are ok, but extra protection on then definitely will help a ton

[paper terrace]

good am4 cpu
thats like
not expensive
(like $100 max maybe?)

[proven shoal]

https://makerworld.com/en/models/17526-mass-stackable-nas-itx-enclosure?from=search#profileId-16299
this looks pretty good

[vague talon]

I got a new gpu and in fortnite I can't set the res to 1080p in fullscreen mode, the game is just frozen (yes, my monitor is 1080p and its only with this new gpu)

it does work in borderless windows but I lose lots of fps
I got a new gpu and in fortnite I can't set the res to 1080p in fullscreen mode, the game is just frozen (yes, my monitor is 1080p and its only with this new gpu)

it does work in windowed fullscreen but I lose lots of fps

just stuck on that

[rigid fjord]

https://www.printables.com/model/248224-antec-isk110-nas-mod-6hdd-itx-pc-nas-case/collections

[proven shoal]

where does psu go?

[rigid fjord]

flex atx psu being used, so you can either use it internally or externally

[proven shoal]

ahh

[rigid fjord]

https://www.printables.com/model/714333-modular-4-12-bay-nas-itx-case-modcase-mass there's this also

[proven shoal]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/N6pVsp
well theses are my parts...

the cpu is a 12500t

[proven shoal]

thats the one i sent but this one is the premiun edition

it looks really good

[vague talon]

anyone please 🥲
its getting to 1am soon
https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1446266219542876221

[rigid fjord]

https://www.printables.com/model/961314-4-bay-itx-hot-swap-nas-case

[proven shoal]

i need one that takes in an aio 🤣

[ocean axle]

why do you want a NAS w/ an AIO?

[rigid fjord]

a 12500t doesn't need an aio, that should be coolable on a wet spoon

[proven shoal]

i just have aios lying around

[ocean axle]

ok, but a NAS w/ an AIO is a bad idea

[rigid fjord]

better off with an air cooler when it coems to a nas

[proven shoal]

i have a montech digital aio and a Lian Li HydroShift II LCD-S 360 just sitting in my wardrobe lol

[ocean axle]

anything acting as a server should have reliability as a high consideration

[proven shoal]

yea i will. i just got the case + aio for free so for now i will keep them

[ocean axle]

AIOs, are not that

[proven shoal]

until i get them sold

then buy/3d print a case and get an air cooler

That's reminds me I think I am getting a beelink nas

[rigid fjord]

@flat cliff if you wanted to build it out of an extrusion this basically has all the fittings you'd end up using for the framework https://www.printables.com/model/1466941-2020-extrusion-connectors

[rigid fjord]

the cooler itself is no more than £30-40

[proven shoal]

Btw I just recently got a 3d printer, what have you 3d printer which you found useful

[valid galleon]

Hi all, I am building a new PC and I hope to use the Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro A-RGB but replace the stock radiator fans with Corsair iCUE LINK RX120 RGB fans. How would I go in terms of connecting stuff? Both product links:
Fans: https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/case-fans/co-9051018-ww/icue-link-rx120-rgb-120mm-pwm-fan-triple-starter-kit-co-9051018-ww
AIO: https://www.arctic.de/us/Liquid-Freezer-III-360-A-RGB-Black/ACFRE00144A

[proven shoal]

True I could get something like this
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EI0qjsM

[proven shoal]

Can't speak for Corsair stuff but the AIO should just be a pump connector to mobo

[rigid fjord]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/7pjBD3/ you'd want this instead tbh

[valid galleon]

Yea the problem is the AIO cables connect to fans for the CPU fan connector. Idk how to make that work with the corsair fans

[proven shoal]

This works too

[rigid fjord]

just get arctic fans to go with the arctic cooler, you wn't be dealing with icue then and for argb control you can use signalrgb instead

[valid galleon]

I don't wanna deal with the daisy chains stuff and I like the corsair fans. Is it possible to just swap them?

[pastel bloom]

what monitor should i get for my pc

[rigid fjord]

the daisy chainning is better than using icue and having to use the commander pro/core

[valid galleon]

but then there is just a shit ton of cables

[rigid fjord]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yHrp99/ for where normal fans would sit in a case
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cXpD4D/ for use on the front/bottom of a case

[rigid fjord]

go for arctic bionix p120-argb or lian li unifans instead then

literaly 2 cables being used per group of fans

and said group of fans = 3-4 fans per group

[valid galleon]

so could I use the lian li fans on the aio?

[proven shoal]

Yes

Any fans will work

They are expensive tho

[rigid fjord]

easily, and still would be a better option over corsair fans

[rigid fjord]

paying more for the convenience of better cable management

[proven shoal]

Lian Li uses standard connections I think?

Or was it usb I don't remember

[valid galleon]

so the Lian Li fans can connect to the rad cables that go to the CPU Fan connector yes?

[rigid fjord]

and technically icue fans use way more cables than lian li/arctic

[proven shoal]

I have some knock off Lian Li and they were really easy to connect

2 cables per 3 fans

[rigid fjord]

you would connect them separately

[valid galleon]

So its ok to not have the radiator fans go to the cpu fan header?

[proven shoal]

Pump to CPU opt/pump header

The AIO fans to CPU fan

[rigid fjord]

the newer ones can be used either via their hub or via the adapter cable that comes with multipacks

[rigid fjord]

otherway when it comes to an arctic aio

[proven shoal]

Or even newer ones which are wireless

[proven shoal]

Oh?

[rigid fjord]

yeah, pump onto the cpu_fan header, and the fans on the rad to cpu_opt

[valid galleon]

so where would I connect the Lian Li fans?

[proven shoal]

System fan 1

Wait no

[rigid fjord]

did you not see what i just said there?

[valid galleon]

I just don't understand

[rigid fjord]

.

[valid galleon]

what is replacing the connection from the fans to the cables that go through the rad tubing?

[proven shoal]

Is there any reason why they do this?

[rigid fjord]

the cpu fan header will control the pump itself as they use a lower powered pump

[proven shoal]

Hmm interesting

[gleaming rose]

i just realized something

whenever i'm typing i dont think about how to spell words anymore

[flat cliff]

I'll take a look but idk if I'm doing the laser cutter project anymore?

[rigid fjord]

on the lf3 the choice of cables you can do with it

[gleaming rose]

all of the words i've learned thus far have been muscle memoried

[rigid fjord]

wait til you learn a trick about spelling words in the wrong order but your brain still translates it out into how it would appear in a dictionary

[gleaming rose]

i've seen this

[proven shoal]

From what I understand
Tldr
All in one connector from AIO to CPU fan on mobo
Replace fans with Lian Li fans
Connect Lian Li fans

How you connect Lian Li fans depends on the fans you buy

[valid galleon]

How does it differ? i just dont get where to connect the fans too

[rigid fjord]

you would be controlling the fans separately from the pump

[proven shoal]

Some Lian Li fans are wireless and others connect to hub or you can connect to mobo

[valid galleon]

so I dont need to connect the fans to the cpu header? they can just be connected as normal fans?

[rigid fjord]

the difference from arctic fans to many other fans is how low a wattage they are

[rigid fjord]

yes and also no

if you use lian li fans, the fans will have to connect of the cpu_opt header

[zinc matrix]

i hate lian li fans

worst purchase ever

[rigid fjord]

spoken by a person who didn't have a clue in how to set them up and thought "oooh shiny"

[zinc matrix]

lian li fans make so much noise

[proven shoal]

TBF I heard they go bad quite frequently

[zinc matrix]

they're bad upon arrival

just poopy fans

[rigid fjord]

funnily enough, that's down to how they're installed

[zinc matrix]

only cool thing about lian li is their rgb

[proven shoal]

Hmm?

[proven shoal]

Cases are sick

[zinc matrix]

true but overpriced imo

[proven shoal]

I mean I bought the vision for £120

I don't think that's too bad

[west kettle]

Is upgrading to a 9070xt with a 5 5600 in my system a dumb idea?

16gb ddr4 ram btw

[proven shoal]

their PSUs are quite fancy now days

[rigid fjord]

no, that's nzxt with their copy of lian li 011d

[zinc matrix]

i forgot nzxt existed

def not me building my first pc and getting kraken elite aio 🤣

thing costed me €360

[ivory mountain]

theyre great for watercooling

[proven shoal]

TBF I am glad Lian Li exists.
They tried funky shit which are quite interesting

[zinc matrix]

yeah but you can get better aio's for €100

[ivory mountain]

im talking about their cases lol, theyre great for watercooling

[zinc matrix]

oh my bad cuh

[ivory mountain]

ur name would be better if it was 67 instead of 69

[zinc matrix]

my brain is lowk fried

[zinc matrix]

nuh uh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1194707301442002974/1274776691935416360/ShootaCat_20240817_10.gif

[proven shoal]

afaik they started the fish tank cases, first to do unifans?, PSUs with hubs and swivel kettle plug

[rigid fjord]

@proven shoal you know what's funny about the id cooling low profile cooler?

[proven shoal]

Hm?

[rigid fjord]

it out performs noctua's low profile cooler

[proven shoal]

Lol

[rigid fjord]

literally blew it out of the water

[proven shoal]

Dam

for 20 bucks it's crazy

Noctua overpriced 🥀

[rigid fjord]

there's an is-60 which is the newer version up from it

[proven shoal]

Interesting

[rigid fjord]

it's a fun one to try on some people

[wet ember]

YouTube is now doing a Spotify rewind type of thing

[west violet]

I’m kinda that guy

Only took me to yesterday to actually listen to a wan show in full for the first ever time 😂

[tired bear]

can you see them on desktop?

[wet ember]

youtube.com/recap

[wet ember]

ahhh cleetus

[tired bear]

just leads to my history/playlists/watch later page

[wet ember]

your watch history is on right?

[tired bear]

same page as https://www.youtube.com/feed/you

[wet ember]

Or try the mobile app by going to the 'you' tab on the bottom right

[empty quartz]

@azure topaz i got all my data back

didn't have to do anything crazy (thank fuck)

[tired bear]

nope, must have been only US that got this

[hidden charm]

Is CalDigit TS5 Plus the best dock for mac?

[empty quartz]

wdym?

[tired bear]

looks good

[orchid trellis]

Is Samsung and micron both shutting down their consumer memory now?

[tired bear]

samsung doesent sell directly to consumers

[midnight wind]

who sells it then

even if sold through retailers, then wouldn't it also be gone if Samsung stopped producing the actual producf

[craggy cove]

when im bored i go to marketplace and list 32gb of ddr5 for 100€

[steel umbra]

they do

you can find obscure consumer grade ddr4/ddr5 sticks made by samsung

usually green or black without any heatsink

[tired bear]

samsung enterprise

they sell these in trays

non consumer packaging

[steel umbra]

idk, it still somehow gets to retail stores

[steel umbra]

which consumers can buy

[hidden charm]

Is there a better dock for Mac that supports multiple monitors with high refresh rate and high resolution?

[tired bear]

diffrence is that Samsung does not market them to consumers, have you ever seen a samsung ram advertisment or sponsorship?
have you seen crucial advertisement or sponsorship? - probably

[steel umbra]

“enterprise” but when retail stores can directly or indirectly get them from samsung… it’s hard to define whenever it’s consumer grade or not

[tired bear]

b2b vs b2c
simple as that

you can as a consumer buy kioxia enterprise ssd, no one is stopping you

[plain cypress]

Neither Samsung foundry nor micron sold direct to consumer

Samsung foundry sells to Samsung electronics
Micron sells (sold) to crucial

[tired bear]

exactly

[plain cypress]

Idk how do Hynix is organized, but I imagine they sell to a different internal division

[steel umbra]

well amd also doesn’t quite sell directly to consumers, they require the retailers

that sell the cpus to consumers for them

[plain cypress]

No

Not what I meant

Samsung foundry is the fab
They produce nand

[steel umbra]

oh that yes

[plain cypress]

Samsung electronics buys the nand from Samsung foundry and makes ssds

Technically AMD buys the CPUs from TSMC

[steel umbra]

i meant like the difference between amd selling cpus as “oem tray or wof” and cpus as “retail box” or samsung selling udimm ram

[tired bear]

they contract manufacturing of their design, not buying cpus

[steel umbra]

they design them

AMD makes cpus using tsmc*

like where the blurry line gets defined or not when you have something like oem tray/wof and retail box cpus

either can be for used for consumers

amd sells tray cpus to a distributor, distributor sells the cpus to a retail company
amd sells box cpus to a distributor, distributor sells the cpus to a retail company

consumer buys the cpu

technically you can find marketing material for wof cpus publicly or at retail stores

does that make them consumer grade?

[ocean axle]

i mean, most AMD CPUs now are "WOF"

consider thats WithOut Fan

[steel umbra]

i mean pretty sure big chunk of consumers buy wof cpus

it’s not just or mainly enterprises buy amd wof/tray cpus, use them and release them on second hand markets

[tired bear]

example hp or dell
buy trays in bulk from intel/amd
buy trays of ram in bulk from whoever
install them in their pc/laptop/server
provide warranty on the whole package

[steel umbra]

well, in the case amd tray/wof cpus are consumer grade i don’t see why samsung udimm ddr4/ddr5s aren’t as well, samsung sells the ram to a distributor and the distributor sells them to a retail store which sells it to a consumer, it’s not like the distributor doesn’t refill stock once the retail store puts order

[steel umbra]

yes that’s decent example but not quite was i’m asking here

[cosmic stratus]

[steel umbra]

like when a retail store puts order on a 7800x3d box cpu through distributor channels

that’s considered retail

[tired bear]

Trays have restrictions on warranty or support

[steel umbra]

what if the same retail store puts order on a 7800x3d tray cpu through the same distributor channel

or like other channels should also count alsomg the cpus are brand new ig

[tired bear]

Same difference with oem windows key vs retail

[steel umbra]

in eu btw you get 2yr warranty even on tray cpus aslong you buy them within the eu

tray is the same as box just without the box and optional cooler*

and ig less marketing material overall

[tired bear]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000029613/processors.html

Product is the same but additional services such as warranty and support are not

[swift stream]

this fcking game has to be KIDDING me

[steel umbra]

i’d assume enterprise products have the same or better support than consumer grade

[ocean axle]

not exactly

[steel umbra]

is a 7800x3d tray an enterprise product?

[tired bear]

Even in eu consumers get 2y warranty while business get 1y

[steel umbra]

you can buy it at retail with 2 year warranty

[steel umbra]

i mean you can also buy a boxed 7800x3d as a business and deduce it from your taxes as an expense and get only 1 yr warranty from the retailer no?

deducing a 7800x3d from taxes is sketchy tho xd

a gaming cpu

[tired bear]

There is no license agreement with amd that it will be used for gaming only lmao

[steel umbra]

true tho but that reminded me how people buy multiple cars here for family members, etc… barely or not for work at all and deduce it as an business expense

[tired bear]

If i need something to do my job then i can order it without any questions
You are talking about gray or even illegal behavior

[steel umbra]

yes but what exactly defines it is legal or not, anyways this is far off topic, is a 7800x3d tray an enterprise or consumer grade cpu?

considering the x3d cpus from amd were mainly targeted towards gamers

retailers can get hands on the tray cpus through distributor channels just like boxed amd cpus

[ocean axle]

i could really easily make that argument
considering im a game dev

[ocean axle]

3dvcache is also good at database workloads, among others, afaik

its not just gaming that it helps with

theres a reason EPYC-X CPUs exist

[tired bear]

Legal: you use it for conducting business during working hours, personal use may be allowed if company policy allows it

[ocean axle]

and a company is allowed to purchase whatever it wants for the purposes of conducting its business

if a company wants to purchase its employee(s) 9800x3d/5090 computer(s), it can do that
if they get used for company purposes, its a business expense, even if unnecessary
if the employees(s) then want to use it for personal things, thats on company policy to allow

so, ezpz, tax writeoff

[steel umbra]

what if you use it just once for doing business, like opening a single word documents and editing a single word does that count?

then for the rest you only use it for personal use

[steel umbra]

so enterprise or consumer grade?

or it’s just a blurry line

i believe it’s a blurry line

[ocean axle]

i mean, its enterprise grade, even if sold retail

but i take "enterprise grade" to mean a product for the usecase of an enterprise, rather than how its sold

so, as far as im concerned, all UDIMM non-ecc memory, from any brand, sold in any way, is consumer grade

i know a lot of business machines also use non-ecc UDIMM, but those are a very close to consumer use

[midnight meteor]

The Percent Chance Increases On Each Balloon Slightly (Starts At 5% -> 5.25% -> 6.67% -> 8% -> 9.7% -> 100%)

[steel umbra]

i’m sorry but this looks like a conflicting opinion compared to the stance you have for tray/boxed cpus

[ocean axle]

Crucial MX500: consumer grade
Micron 9300 Pro: enterprise grade

[steel umbra]

https://www.senetic.sk/product/M323R2GA3DB0-CWM?srsltid=AfmBOopjJcIDYahNiWZN8NVvBj6EeIkrLezb_h0biANwn2yTxge-gWfv - ram branded by samsung, ics made by samsung, non-ecc

[ocean axle]

no?
the 7800x3d is a consumer grade product
the 9384X is an enterprise grade product
both have the same CCD and vcache stack (or multiple in the case of the 9384X)

[latent gull]

teamgroup: military grade

[steel umbra]

7800x3d boxed - consumer grade
7800x3d tray - ???

[ocean axle]

also consumer grade, because im separating "consumer grade" or "enterprise grade" from how its sold

[steel umbra]

yes 9384x is enterprise no arguing in that

[steel umbra]

yes that’s my opinion as well

[swift stream]

i don't have 800 coins tho

[ocean axle]

now, something sold through one channel may have different support come with it, but that doesnt change the product

[midnight meteor]

yeah it sucks and I hope they never do this false lootbox type thing again

[ocean axle]

also, an enterprise grade 7950x3d does exist too, FWIW

its the EPYC 4584PX

or 4585PX for the 9950x3d

[steel umbra]

and is this enterprise or consumer grade?

consumers can use it ✅
sold by a retailer, consumer can buy it ✅
lack of marketing material ❌
warranty provided by law within the eu but in case of a rma ❔
no ecc

[ocean axle]

consumer grade probably OE sku

[steel umbra]

like yk the line just gets blurry atleast what it feels to me

maybe it’s neither or both idk

[swift stream]

shutdown /r /fw

[ocean axle]

Samsung 970 Evo: consumer grade retail sku
Samsung PM981: consumer grade OE sku
Samsung 983 DCT: enterprise grade

[wary steeple]

Just bought a brand new motherboard did the bios flash for my cpu using a usb stick it still goes to the yellow light for the ram it been sitting there for like 4 or 5 mins now so could it finally be my ram

[ocean axle]

all three have the same SSD controller and NAND

but, they aren't the same product

the 983DCT has powerloss protection, the other two dont

[steel umbra]

| consumer ssd |

[grizzled frost]

did you try the new Camelia song Badly?

[ocean axle]

their website is dumb, its a datacenter ssd