tech-chat-1

[mint umbra]

I've hardly ever gone over 16gb when gaming

[sinful cobalt]

all the prices are just diabolical

[azure topaz]

DDR3 also has gone up

[merry nest]

damn

[steel umbra]

you need 14995XTX Pro AI+ MAX Ultra

[merry nest]

LMAO

[shy arch]

DDR3 😭

[azure topaz]

you dont play the same games as everyone else, i do before i get into a match lol

[ivory mountain]

my cities skylines 2 hits 34gb

[mint umbra]

I mean don't use memory hogging browsers

[sinful cobalt]

maybe instead of DDR3 being the equivalent of horseshit its now the equivalent of 2 chicken nuggets

[clever junco]

fair

im too stubborn to get rid of chrome

[mint umbra]

That game is dog

[shy arch]

DDR3 going up in the background trying to copy the big guns

[azure topaz]

theorefore doesnt count for ram usage

[ivory mountain]

s-s-s-s-shut up nazuna...

[violet condor]

what GPU should I get for my ThinkCentre M81 with a i7 2600 and 24GB of ram

[azure topaz]

no its just so many people want mass amounts of ram for either their own home servers and ai tasks or big data centers

[mint umbra]

Idk anyone who plays that game over the first one

[azure topaz]

this is obviously going to cause a chain reaction

[shy arch]

My friend's minecraft hit 800gb when farming TNT

*on a server

[azure topaz]

i want to u pgrade my server to 128GB and guess what seemingly everyone else does which is why ram is so expensive too

[ivory mountain]

800gb of ram nice one man

[shy arch]

I'm deadass

[mint umbra]

What's the point of home server

[azure topaz]

home serving

[clever junco]

so how much ram does he have

[shy arch]

It had 2TB

Dell server

[azure topaz]

stuff

[clever junco]

him or the server??

[gusty wagon]

I just need a gpu upgrade

[shy arch]

server 😭 what could him be

[mint umbra]

Like I can just use streamio for movies and tv shows

[ivory mountain]

idek what to play

[sinful cobalt]

buy my 9070xt so ez 🔥

[ivory mountain]

[clever junco]

okay but what minecraft server needs 2tb of ram 😭😭

[mint umbra]

What is that

[ivory mountain]

theyre larping

[mint umbra]

What app is that

[azure topaz]

servers dont just have to be for mc fella

[shy arch]

My first GPU was an ATI HD7730M 😭

[ivory mountain]

playnite, i use it to have all of my games in 1 place or my OCD will spiral and ill lose sleep

[shy arch]

2gb gddr3

[gusty wagon]

That's not english

[shy arch]

used that for like 8 years

[mint umbra]

Is it for steam games ?

[gusty wagon]

I had a GT435M but ok

[ivory mountain]

u can add any games even emulators

[mint umbra]

I see

Nice

[clever junco]

yeah but why allocate anymore than like 32 to a mc server or maybe 64 if it's modded, if it goes over that then we have bigger issues

[mint umbra]

Might take a look at that

[shy arch]

See I ac used mine for CS 2, AC7, ROTTR, so many games

[ivory mountain]

its fire has themes too

[clever junco]

also depends on how many players you have i suppose, me and 2 buddies only use like 16

[shy arch]

I was sweating CS 2 with that shi

[gusty wagon]

aircon?

[shy arch]

u mean the online gaming thing?

[ivory mountain]

fucking sweat

[shy arch]

nah i ran it all native

[mint umbra]

I just feel like having a server is too much effort for the uses I'd get out of it

[ivory mountain]

i wanna replay bully scholarship edition

[shy arch]

also temps were so good even tho it was sharing one heatsink and fan with the cpu

[clever junco]

hell me and my gf play on a server with 4gb ram 😭

[ivory mountain]

wtf is a gf

[shy arch]

girl friend

[clever junco]

oh right most of you don't know what that is

[ivory mountain]

whats that

[clever junco]

a female

[shy arch]

A girl

who's your friend

[ivory mountain]

ohhhhh

[shy arch]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[gusty wagon]

No girls?

Hmmmmmmmmmm

[shy arch]

Lowk almost every1 here is single

i think

[ivory mountain]

i miss not being single

[ivory mountain]

yeah youd know a lot about that u play warframe

[clever junco]

sounds about right for a tech discord server

[near pine]

Any germans or french ppl who can help me find some review of this laptop,

cant seem to find any english or swedish ones ,_,

help please

name: Medion Signium 14 S1 OLED

[shy arch]

My point

[clever junco]

or any discord server tbh

[gusty wagon]

That i do, i also don't have a boyfriend so the point has been proven

[bronze summit]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-gif-12280691131005323983

[gusty wagon]

No relationships

[shy arch]

Just watch a vid with captions

[ivory mountain]

warframe looks fun but idk why i couldnt get into it

[bronze summit]

I am in a loving gay relationship

[ivory mountain]

W

[clever junco]

W

[bronze summit]

So idk what's up with all this we stuff

[gusty wagon]

I play Warframe for its mindless grinding

[bronze summit]

I play Warframe for the armor

[gusty wagon]

And there's a few cute guys there so

[fringe prairie]

found a dutch review on it
https://techfi.nl/medion-signium-14-s1-oled-review

rpl-u is quite ehhhhh though

[shy arch]

I'm in a relationship with my gaming setup

[fringe prairie]

medion as a brand is alright, owned by lenovo iirc

[shy arch]

Owned by lenovo?

[empty quartz]

Fml

[fringe prairie]

looks like it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medion

[shy arch]

Also guys r there any cheap high performance chinese GPU's that can be bought

bc they make like everything cheaper than designed-in-the-west products

[azure topaz]

what

[near pine]

thanks!!

[azure topaz]

0 example

what do you need out of said "chinese gpu"

[fringe prairie]

why would you want this

[shy arch]

A gpu that works and is cheap

[empty quartz]

I accidentally broke the stem of my 1970’s-1980’s apc keyboard

[azure topaz]

theres nothing that china actually makes that is good gpu wise

[fringe prairie]

they exist but poor driver support + likely 0 warranty if you’re not in china

also poor performance yeah

[azure topaz]

if youre talking about just the remade cards from recycling bins

then, theyre generally not priced any different and worse

[shy arch]

Nah i'm talking chinese brands

[azure topaz]

okay then youre defintiely not getting anything cheap

look up YESTON RX 550, thats about the ccheapest thing youre getting from a real chinese gpu manu

[ivory mountain]

but this yeston doesnt have anime waifu on it

[azure topaz]

all of those fall under "remade cards from recycling bins"

besides the asus one thats just chilling

[ivory mountain]

"high performance"

[azure topaz]

none of the vendors here were actual AIB manus during these cards existence

[wheat torrent]

that's what he is looking for

[shy arch]

At least they gave it hdmi

[azure topaz]

he said hes not looking for remade cards

[wheat torrent]

what chinese cards does he want then

[azure topaz]

ones that dont exist

[shy arch]

Exactly

[wheat torrent]

there are but

he would have to pay someone from china to buy one and ship it to him

not cheap

[azure topaz]

none of them are cheap so idkthe goal here

[wheat torrent]

also those cards are normal cards, not cheap

[shy arch]

eh fair enough then

[wheat torrent]

some are more expensive

[azure topaz]

fr just a gpu made by a chinese aib

[shy arch]

I thought that i could get some wild frame-per-dollar by taking the risk with a fishy chines gpu

[azure topaz]

no

[shy arch]

guess not

[azure topaz]

are 5700XT's even priced well on ali anymore

[ivory mountain]

5700xt

[azure topaz]

no

[ivory mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/blow-the-dust-meme-good-old-days-nostalgia-old-gif-17831927821295204551

[azure topaz]

they were actually a decent pick off ali in like 2023, only like 120$

no longer

[ivory mountain]

i paid $150 for mine on marketplace in 2023 i loved that card

red devil 5700xt

[wheat torrent]

you will find a better deal if you go the used route

[shy arch]

Damn u got lucky

[azure topaz]

that was just a reasonable price back then for remade 5700XT's

if u were paying anymore than 150-200$ for a good condition 5700XT that wasnt chinese, you got scammed

[shy arch]

I mean now u can get a 750 Ti for $60 CAD

[azure topaz]

or a GTX 1070 for 60 cad lol

[wheat torrent]

what do you need the card for

[azure topaz]

not actually bad

80$ its a bit much for what id pay but

[shy arch]

that's reasonable

[azure topaz]

somewhat

[shy arch]

Also will a cracked PS4 be able to play any games

[azure topaz]

not online but yes

[ivory mountain]

explorer after crashing when i drag a 2gb file

[azure topaz]

dont connect hacked/jailbroken consoles to your real account/really online without a stealth server

i wonder if you can diy a stealth server atp, probably

[shy arch]

Yea i don't use it anymore so it's just gathering dust

i'll js sign out and crack it

[azure topaz]

yeah just dont put it online call it good

forget ur wifi name and tape over the ethernet or something

[shy arch]

prob js gonna use it in the linux mode for steam and pc games

[azure topaz]

wont do anything good

play ps4 games illegally legally thru backups you totally have instead

[shy arch]

Yeah if my playstation acc get's blacklisted i'm done for

[shy arch]

lmao

[violet condor]

can you put a PSU upgrade and GTX 1060 6GB in a ThinkCentre M81 with i7 2600?

[azure topaz]

lots of p;eople have tried this the PS4 doesnt have enough ram for linux + igpu gaming

[shy arch]

every youtuber in their vids be like

[shy arch]

shucks

eh they're not even that many pc games that r not on playstation

[azure topaz]

cooking

[shy arch]

r u emulating linux in a browser?

[azure topaz]

no

[shy arch]

aight

[azure topaz]

called proxmox

what an incredible edit fail on my part

[shy arch]

lmao

[shy arch]

Am i the only one who installed a macos vm on my windows machine and a windows vm on my macbook

[azure topaz]

weird but no

[fringe prairie]

i tried a macos vm

wasn’t fun

[shy arch]

i js used oracle

worked fine

[azure topaz]

pov hackintosh (not fun)

[fringe prairie]

yeah ended up just buying a macbook lmao

[violet condor]

can you put a PSU upgrade and GTX 1060 6GB in a ThinkCentre M81 with i7 2600!

[azure topaz]

why would one want to do that

[fringe prairie]

i’m going to guess proprietary psu

[azure topaz]

this is also a google question/if you cant figure this out yourself probably not

[azure topaz]

probably not its 2nd gne

yes you can upgrade the Psu in it

why are you picking the m81

[shy arch]

if the gpu will fit is another question

[shy arch]

he's prob alr got it

[azure topaz]

i honesdtly shouldnt bother this is probably some 13 year old i wont be able to sway from a terrible computer

[violet condor]

ok

[azure topaz]

just a craptastic thing thats 20 years old

[fringe prairie]

dunno why you would bother ya

[azure topaz]

if so then its not a terrible decision but the 1060 and the psu theyre going to buy is probably not good but

[shy arch]

My personal disgust for green mobos

[azure topaz]

rather see if you can find a 1650 for a similar price as a 1060+psu upgrade

yes its technically slower but its easier on you and actually supported

[shy arch]

He should buy a slightly better GPU so later on he can build a new PC and recylce the GPU

[azure topaz]

yes

[shy arch]

since that mobo's alr been obosolete

[azure topaz]

i usually say as a rule for these types of builds "dont buy anything you wont carry on in 2 years" but literally almost nothing from a system like this is going to be transferrable

he can move whatever PSU he buys and maybe the sata 2.5inch ssd if he has one

[shy arch]

Might consider saving up for an AM4 DDR4 build

[violet condor]

my GPU is a bad Radeon HD 5450 2GB

i am

[azure topaz]

or just anything moderately newer

6th gen or 7th gen prebuilts are absurdly cheap nowadays

(6 7)

[shy arch]

U should deal with that a bit longer and buy something better than the 1060

[azure topaz]

agreed

[shy arch]

no

[azure topaz]

2060 or something would be cool despite it being a lot more money its just going to last you that good amount longer

DLSS is a supremely useful feature and will make the 2060 very usable for a decent amount of time

[shy arch]

Yeah i battered my Radeon HD7730M 2GB (similarly specced to his) until 2 yrs ago

[ivory mountain]

holy peak

[plain cypress]

What is it

[azure topaz]

"last month you listened to playboi carti 629 more minutes than the average listener"

thank you spotify DJ for outing me

[shy arch]

A search engine

[plain cypress]

Holy optimal response

[shy arch]

i had to 😭

[violet condor]

when i upgrade, I'm going to a Ryzen 7 5800xt and a Radeon rx 9060 xt

[azure topaz]

5800xt is a poor choice, why that?

generally not priced very well so im curious

im doing my best not to flame you here i swear im just curious

[shy arch]

hmm yeah you could get a similar amd cpu for much less

[steel umbra]

sorry, what’s the gpu you’ve just said idk what’s 11070xt

[azure topaz]

similar as in the exact same for way less

if am4 tbh i d just buy a 6 core and ride it out until you can buy modern platforms

[ivory mountain]

me with nba youngboy

[shy arch]

Ngl before the ram price spike AM4 + DDR4 was golden for a budget build

now it's slightly less golden because even DDR4 is expensive af

[azure topaz]

lga 1700 is a joke to you i see

[violet condor]

so is LGA1155

[steel umbra]

7400f ($100) + 2x16gb 6000mt/s cl30 ($80-90) + an asrock b650m ($110-120)

[shy arch]

Nah I like AMD because a) their stickers are WAY cooler than intel's b) they sound cooler than intel c) they look cooler than intel

[azure topaz]

well 1155 is actually bad while am4 and 1700 are pretty evenly matched

in terms of budget build

[steel umbra]

i recall ryzen 5000 also had price hike at launch

and 3300x was gone

(zen 2)

[violet condor]

LGA1155 is bad

[azure topaz]

can i put 2080ti in this

[plain cypress]

Ancient technology
Prehistoric even

[south arrow]

🦖

[violet condor]

does anyone know what a Dell Latitude D820 is?

[azure topaz]

it’s perfect

[azure topaz]

a laptop, i think i had its bigger brother growing up

i indeed did

i had the version with a T6670 (i think) and some quadro

[violet condor]

a 20 year old

[azure topaz]

yes

it was old when i had it and it surely is old now

[azure topaz]

yep thats an old laptop

[violet condor]

Intel Core 2 duo

[azure topaz]

i got piles of them

yes

[violet condor]

Windows 10 pro

[azure topaz]

crazy cause none of mine are old enough to be core 2

[azure topaz]

if its got the stock hdd in it i bet thats painful

[plain cypress]

HYTE

[violet condor]

No ssd

[azure topaz]

goated mousepad for free

[azure topaz]

L

[violet condor]

Sorry it has a SSD

[azure topaz]

oh oh

[fringe prairie]

nah

[azure topaz]

okay probably better then when i had a d820 on w10 lol

does yours have the dedicated GPU?

i had the shitty 110M

[violet condor]

Quadro nvs 120m 256mb

[azure topaz]

so yours is slightly better than my old one

[violet condor]

DDR2 665MHz

[azure topaz]

although i had 6gb ram and not 4

[azure topaz]

yeah you even have a higher end cpu than me

but SSD is makin all the difference

you shoulda seen my D820 on an HDD in w10, took like 45 seconds to do anything

and this was like 8 years ago

[golden sage]

hey guys, if yall had to choose either 1, which would it be? given they're the same price ofc

Samsung 990 Pro
Crucial T500

[azure topaz]

neat to see my first real computer in chat

[azure topaz]

samsung 990 pro but im biased and almost always pick them for high end ssd choices

[violet condor]

It's actually pretty snappy

[azure topaz]

yeah you have an SSD

[violet condor]

Yes

[azure topaz]

it literally is making all the difference

[left trellis]

十年树木，百年树人。

[golden sage]

ahh i see

[violet condor]

Works perfectly fine

Doesn't see its graphics card

[azure topaz]

its a alaptop i bet

[violet condor]

yes

TF2 runs at 6 tp 15 FPS

6 to 15 FPS

[fickle ivy]

My laptop is really really really slow and I'm wondering if it's even worth it to buy an SSD

It's got a 7th Gen i3 and takes years to do anything

[violet condor]

YES

oh,ok

[fickle ivy]

I feel like an SSD would help a lot but I also feel like it wouldn't cuz it's such a low end cpu

[rich solar]

Ssd always worth it

[azure topaz]

yes, your computer is slow because of the lack of ssd lol

i have an all in one with a 7th gen mobile i3 and it is mostly ok

[fickle ivy]

I get massive stutters when I'm in a game tok

Could it be because of that

[azure topaz]

you have a slow computer

[formal sonnet]

Compared to an HDD, upgrading to an SSD is worth it. That said, I'd only do this if you're running Linux on this 7th gen Intel i3 laptop. If you want to run Windows on it, I'd save the money for an upgrade.

[azure topaz]

an ssd will make it feel usable. it’s not a gpu upgrade

[fickle ivy]

I know

But I wasn't assets and stuff to load fast and not take 2 minutes to join a match

[misty mauve]

tech chat

[south arrow]

[ancient vine]

hi guys

freed myself from integrated graphics yesterday finished building my new pc

[dire birch]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/dram/micron-is-killing-crucial-ssds-and-memory-in-ai-pivot-company-refocuses-on-hbm-and-enterprise-customers

[violet condor]

D820 battlestation?

[ancient vine]

i bought one of crucial's ram kits a week before this

[somber blaze]

Can someone help me find the smallest case I can get my atx motherboard and 3080ti FE in?

[native path]

SSD

[somber blaze]

Budget undecided I just need a small case

I’ve got a phanteks case and it’s massive, I need something smaller to transport

[violet condor]

Dell Latitude D820 battlestation?

[golden sage]

anyone heard of a SK Hynix Platinum P41? thinking about getting this for my secondary drive. while the os drive can be the samsung 990 pro

[violet condor]

no

[somber blaze]

Good drive

I ran it for awhile

No issues

Expensive but it’s good

[golden sage]

Right now its the cheapest out of the bunch of SSDs im looking at

Sk Hynix Platinum P41 - $229
Samsung 990 PRO - $280
Crucial T500 - $283
WD Black SN850X - $269

Prices are in singapore dollars

[silk agate]

is this a deal chat

[steel umbra]

probably overpaying

all of them meh

[frigid blade]

slowly but surely

next will implement the actual desktop streaming for the VMs into the web browser

got a WIP working earlier last night, uses something called apache guacamole

lets you use Windows RDP in browser

[golden sage]

I read about some speed degradation, did u encounter anything like that on yours?

[azure topaz]

https://novnc.com/info.html proxmox does it this way

[frigid blade]

might try this if mine fails

this is really fun

first time messing with autounattend.xml also

got some broken ISOs but working through it

[hoary agate]

1080p60 to this
what yall think of the upgrade

[wheat torrent]

What kind of ram chips did micron make

What speeds and timings

[frigid blade]

well priced

[hoary agate]

very much so if i do say so myself

[gilded sparrow]

is pcie 5.0 worth it enough to buy a new mobo

[wheat torrent]

So IF the prices come back to normal

We will see a 30% price increase

[wheat torrent]

Defining not

Negative

[azure topaz]

bad

theres no way to blanket it though

they just had bad ddr5, simplest way to put it

[wheat torrent]

I see

I think my ram is not micron

[azure topaz]

i think the highest ive seen is 7200

[azure topaz]

if its 6000 C30 there is no way it can be micron

[wheat torrent]

But still this will affect the prices

[glass perch]

dunno if its a concidence or not but the problem only reappeared when i put the glass panel back on 😭

[azure topaz]

you didnt really read the article or what i said earlier did you

[random gyro]

where's DDR6?

[wheat torrent]

Apparently they did 20% of chips

[ivory mountain]

Censor micron plz its m*cron from now on

[azure topaz]

micron is stopping D5 production so hynix can make more DDR5

[wheat torrent]

I don't remember

[azure topaz]

.

[wheat torrent]

Did you send me anything

[azure topaz]

i sentt the article and a whole spiel earlier while you were in chat pretty sure

[wheat torrent]

I mean what I think is if there is one less manufacturer

The other can just scale more

[azure topaz]

but that means that theres more space for the good manus to make more ram

[wheat torrent]

We shall see

[azure topaz]

micron didnt make any consumer relevant memory in ddr5

they sometimes had the cheapest kits but even then that wasnt true

generally you were paying 20-30$ more than a hynix kit for significantly worse

[wheat torrent]

Also I assume we will see all the brands that used micron chips change to other chips

[random gyro]

but where's ddr6 tho we need it now

[wheat torrent]

Late 2027

[azure topaz]

all brands who make memory sticks used micron besides like, klevv

[ivory mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/cretoi-icssmoke-gif-18150152580473674997

[azure topaz]

or any other inhouse brand

[random gyro]

but imagine, 1.25TB of DDR6 Ram

[wheat torrent]

Wdym, mine is hynix

[azure topaz]

okay that doesnt mean that every time you buy a kit from whatever brand who made yours its going to be hynix

[ivory mountain]

"husband" ur too old to be saying ts unc 😭

[wheat torrent]

But 6000 cl30 it can't be micron as you said

[azure topaz]

it means that you either bought a speed bin that guarantees hynix or you just got lucky

[azure topaz]

the same brand who makes your ram makes other bins

im sure the same brand you have makes 6000 c36 stufff

[wheat torrent]

Hmmm right

[azure topaz]

etc

[wheat torrent]

Yeah

[ivory mountain]

mine came with cl38

[azure topaz]

and can still be hynix

[wheat torrent]

But I wonder when will the prices drop

[azure topaz]

a year maybe 2

[ivory mountain]

im aware cause mine is hynix

[wheat torrent]

I feel like it's going to be a long while

I wonder if this crisis is a coincidence

[azure topaz]

its not

[wheat torrent]

Did companies suddenly need more RAM

[azure topaz]

yes

AI workloads = high ram

[wheat torrent]

And micron ditches everything to cook

Right but why now

[azure topaz]

micron ditched consumer memory to focus on ai 😭

[ivory mountain]

good cause who wants to use that shit ass ram

[azure topaz]

consumer memory is not the same product division as what the data centers are using

different products

micron is killing off their consumer memory lines to make more space for hynix to buy chips

hynix in 2026 is also apparently increasing dram prod by 8x

[wheat torrent]

Ram crisis is like 3 months long

[azure topaz]

it will be longer

[wheat torrent]

Or did it increase for longer

I mean since when did prices increase

[azure topaz]

idk yeah like 3 months ago

[wheat torrent]

I am just trying to figure out what could they be doing

[night heart]

hey guys

[wheat torrent]

For prices to raise this fast

[azure topaz]

bought more ram for ai

[night heart]

i wanna ask something

[gilded sparrow]

patriot exsists

[wheat torrent]

Yes but it has to be some bigger projects

It can't just be every ai company

[azure topaz]

tell me you have no idea about ram and how it works without telling me

[night heart]

why is ram so expensive all of a sudden?

[azure topaz]

patriot does not make the ram that goes on their sticks

[wheat torrent]

Though I guess it kinda fuels itself?

[gilded sparrow]

ai

[night heart]

ohhhhh

like what did ai do

[azure topaz]

they probably dont even make the fiberglass pcb that the ram goes on

[gilded sparrow]

daa centers

[night heart]

ooooohhhhhhh

[wheat torrent]

We have ai centers for like 2 years now

[azure topaz]

ai wants big ram to store datasets, it kinda doesnt matter the speed at scales like this but this is making every major dram manu focus HBM memory and allocate less space for the consumer section

[wheat torrent]

But ram increased in last 3 months

[night heart]

ohh alrighttt

[azure topaz]

the demand for ai has increased in the last 3 months

[gilded sparrow]

ah my first kit of ram was patriot signature ddr5 4800 mt/s cl 40

[wheat torrent]

You think so?

[night heart]

like im trying to build an optiplex "gaming" pc

[azure topaz]

yeah it was jedec, hwy are you mad at jedec memory

thats not even what you could call bad ram thats just

[wheat torrent]

I feel like beside gemini 3 there wasn't much releases recently

[azure topaz]

generic ddr5 memory

[wheat torrent]

Significant releases

[azure topaz]

could literally be any ic under the sun

[gilded sparrow]

well now i havew tforce ddr5 6400 mt/s cl 40

[wheat torrent]

It felt like last few months ai kinda hit the celling

[azure topaz]

yeah so now you actually have bad ram

[wheat torrent]

As in improvement

[azure topaz]

and before you just had normal jedec ram

[night heart]

so is the i7 37770 w. rx 550 +8gb ram good enough

[azure topaz]

if youre asking, yes

[night heart]

i am getting mixed reviews from websites

[azure topaz]

its going to be a shit slow computer but its going to be cheap so thats cool

[gilded sparrow]

did yal hear amd is rraising cpu prices i was going to buy a new 7800 x3d but now im not ig

[azure topaz]

if you dont have the optiplex or anything i would not follow this plan

as its...a poor plan

[night heart]

i have it already

[gilded sparrow]

550 not good in modern era

[azure topaz]

i would skip out on the RX 550 and save for a 1650 instead

[wheat torrent]

I feel like prices will continue to raise even more

[azure topaz]

the RX 550 is verry slow, i think slower than even a GTX 1050, not great for games

[night heart]

yeah but im from india and its quite expensive even second hand

[gilded sparrow]

u can find a rx6600 pretty cheap

[azure topaz]

okay thats out of the scope of this pc by a lot

we're talking like 40-80$ video cards not 200$ video cards lol

[gilded sparrow]

ah

[wheat torrent]

It seems like consumer tech will just keep and keep getting more expensive because of enterprise demanding more

[night heart]

and it dosent hv a 6 pin

[azure topaz]

not all 1650s do

you can also get adaptors, especially since cards like the 1650 draw so little power

[gilded sparrow]

itlll come back down it always does im just glad my mom bought my gpu when she did

[wheat torrent]

Not totally sure

Ram will come down but I think generally it will be higher for all products

[azure topaz]

it has been a trend for every major dram generation release to be overpricced at launch and have some form of shortage in its life cycle

[wheat torrent]

SSDs also

[gilded sparrow]

all companys have to stop building at some point to reap profit

[night heart]

yeah i hit up some ppl on marketplace and olx (another second hand marketplace in india) and its like 6k lowest (in INR)

[azure topaz]

ddr4 got worse than this

literal thousand dollar ddr4 kits

[gilded sparrow]

mom snagged a 5070 for $519 usd on black friday for x mas

[azure topaz]

nice

[night heart]

damnnnn

[wheat torrent]

[night heart]

bro thats a beastttt

[wheat torrent]

Ddr6 is around the corner

[azure topaz]

https://www.servethehome.com/why-server-asps-are-rising-the-2017-2018-ddr4-dram-shortage/

[wheat torrent]

Interested to see how it plays out

[azure topaz]

https://www.techpowerup.com/230188/dram-prices-to-continue-to-rise-over-2017

[gilded sparrow]

ddr4 was already in shortage too thats wthe worst part

[night heart]

so like will the ram prices come down anytime soon?

[wheat torrent]

Also there will be a discrepancy now with ddr6 being camm2 for consumers

[azure topaz]

https://www.implicator.ai/the-great-ram-raid-how-one-ai-deal-broke-the-consumer-memory-market/

[azure topaz]

ddr4 is not in a shortage

[wheat torrent]

But I guess the chips are the same?

[azure topaz]

its old. its simply out of production

[gilded sparrow]

nah do you remeber how long it took 30 series

[azure topaz]

this is like saying GTX 1080tis are in a shortage

the exact same thing

[gilded sparrow]

thats the my point production was starting to shut down

[azure topaz]

but there is not a lack of ddr4

[wheat torrent]

2x price

[azure topaz]

you can go out and buy ddr4 for semi reasonable prices even now

[gilded sparrow]

did 30 series ever even go down to msrp before 40 series came out?

[azure topaz]

new is a different boat but again its the same thing as buying a 1080Ti brand new

why would you do that

[gilded sparrow]

ram used to be a cheap uprade and fairly reasonable

[wheat torrent]

Idk

[gilded sparrow]

my kits bad but at least i have it

[azure topaz]

225$ in todays money, pretty much bang on

[wheat torrent]

Not for me

I paid 300 dollars on ddr4

Same amount for ddr5

[gilded sparrow]

when

[wheat torrent]

2 years ago

[azure topaz]

literally almost the exact same as it was in 2016 during the actual ddr4 shortage

damn you got scammed

[wheat torrent]

The ddr5 I bought this year

[wheat torrent]

Normal prices out here

[regal marlin]

why is this the best looking gpu ive ever seen https://www.microcenter.com/product/700481/AMD_Radeon_RX_9070_XT_Steel_Legend_Dark_Overclocked_Triple_Fan_16GB_GDDR6_PCIe_50_Graphics_Card?_gl=1*1045j0z*_gcl_au*MTEyMTc5NzM4Ny4xNzYzOTQ1NDkzLjQxNjQwNDQyNC4xNzY0MjgyMzk3LjE3NjQyODI1NzI.*_ga*MTYyNzA4MDU2Mi4xNzI2Nzk0NzA0*_ga_CSBPEX4VCV*czE3NjQ4MjEyNDkkbzI0OCRnMSR0MTc2NDgyMjcyOCRqNTckbDEkaDEwNzE4NTc1OTE.

[azure topaz]

300 usd or some other currency cause now im worried

[gilded sparrow]

why it honestly would have been cheaper to move to am5 and cheaper if u were intel and a cheaper ddr5 kit

[wheat torrent]

No its always expensive

[gilded sparrow]

no dude i bought 32 gigs of ddr5 months ago for like $80

[azure topaz]

yeah

[wheat torrent]

If I paid 300 dollars for ddr4 do you think it would be cheaper to switch to am5 lmao

[regal marlin]

sell that shi lmfao

[azure topaz]

32GB DDR5 6000 C30 was no more than 100$ a couple months ago htis is very true

[wheat torrent]

I live in bad economy

[azure topaz]

you do end up with some garabge dimms for oc but

[wheat torrent]

Its normal

[azure topaz]

thaTs why i asked if it was usd or some other currency

[gilded sparrow]

wish verstappen luck on sunday fuck mclaren

[azure topaz]

300$ is a lot in USD but 300 cad is...less

[wheat torrent]

I did pay 300 USD

[regal marlin]

FUCK MCLAREN

[gilded sparrow]

u got scammed

[wheat torrent]

United states dollars

[wheat torrent]

My country scams me every day

[gilded sparrow]

us?

[regal marlin]

real shit

[wheat torrent]

Nothing out of usual

[wheat torrent]

Moldova

[gilded sparrow]

my drivere has been terrible this year hes abt to retire tbh

[regal marlin]

who is yours

[wheat torrent]

376 USD

[gilded sparrow]

take a wild guess

[regal marlin]

stroll

[gilded sparrow]

44

[regal marlin]

bro

i love hamilton too

[gilded sparrow]

im in spain without the s

[regal marlin]

but verstappen has to win

[gilded sparrow]

ferrari and hamilton fan double tap

[wheat torrent]

Ddr5 same price

[gilded sparrow]

i just dont want lando to win

[regal marlin]

yuh

[gilded sparrow]

oscar ok he deseres it

lando no send his ass to 2021 haas

[regal marlin]

pastrami will not win again

[gilded sparrow]

i think he will

[regal marlin]

hayel naw

[gilded sparrow]

somone go get micheal masi for this race bruh

[void eagle]

could valve hypothetically partner w a chinese chip company and sell ram through steam at normal prices and still profit because they would make up for it in steam sales as basically pc gaming is doomed rn?

[azure topaz]

no lmfao what

[regal marlin]

???

[gilded sparrow]

what drugs are you on

[void eagle]

it's a thought that came to my mind

[azure topaz]

that was the worst thing ive read are you sure thats not bait

[void eagle]

why wouldn't they be able to do it

[azure topaz]

because a chinese chip maker big enough simply doesnt exist

end of story

[void eagle]

partner w a lesser known chip company, contact lower speed DDR5 memory and manufacture it

[azure topaz]

there is not a "lesser known chip company"

[void eagle]

smaller one, not necessarily micron

[azure topaz]

bro what does "doesnt exist" mean to you

that it does and im just lying for fun?

[void eagle]

fairly certain there's more manufacturers than micron and samsung

[gilded sparrow]

theres as reason ram prices have gone up ITS BECAUSE NO O0NE CAN GET THE CHIPS not even the actual ram company

[azure topaz]

theres nanya and CXMT

neither of them are large enough to do what you just said

not even together

[void eagle]

it's because they're not selling to consumers anymore

[wheat torrent]

There is 3

[azure topaz]

that is a lie

[void eagle]

let's hope CXMT scales up production in 2026

[gilded sparrow]

not rlly see its not a comptitive market no its because the demand is to high for the supply

[wheat torrent]

Ok, 2 now

[azure topaz]

hynix is going to 8x in 2026....

[regal marlin]

this guy is fucking high

[void eagle]

I don't wanna be stuck w a aging ddr4 build that I can't even upgrade ram for at all.

[azure topaz]

why cant you upgrade the ram? 😭

[gilded sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/well-no-fucking-shit-maximbady-no-really-really-no-way-gif-20513251

[void eagle]

they don't manufacture it anymore

so it's being scalped too

[azure topaz]

bro

a 32GB DDR4 kit is 90$

[gilded sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-wrong-not-right-gif-14695153867752834726

[wheat torrent]

I'll hate ddr6 because I'll have to but 64gb out of getgo

[void eagle]

64 GB of DDR4 is like £200

[wheat torrent]

Won't be able to upgrade

[void eagle]

last I checked

[azure topaz]

why are you buying 8 year old products brand new

[void eagle]

this isn't new

[azure topaz]

this is a you problem not a global shortage issue if youre on ddr4

[azure topaz]

what countrry do you live in

[void eagle]

this is used

[gilded sparrow]

just get a cheap am5 cpu like 7500f and a basic ddr5 kit

[azure topaz]

youre looking in terrible places then

[void eagle]

uk, I've yet to see good ram prices

[gilded sparrow]

will still be better then ddr4

[void eagle]

I'll hold on w my 5800x and PRAY it doesn't die

[azure topaz]

holy fuck that wasnt hard i didnt even have to sort

[void eagle]

that's 32 gb

[void eagle]

now look for 64

[azure topaz]

and so on

[gilded sparrow]

justify needing 64

[azure topaz]

200$ isnt unreasonable either 😭

[azure topaz]

buy 2 32gb kits

[void eagle]

playing modded games maxes out my RAM

[spare laurel]

What we thinking about for cpu prices currently? Will it get a raise again

[spare laurel]

[gilded sparrow]

how are u maxing out 32 gigs bruh

[void eagle]

okay that's less than I thought but still

[void eagle]

modded vr games 🫠

[regal marlin]

i can play modded games on 16 gig ddr4 LAPTOP RAM i think its a fucking skill issue

[gilded sparrow]

already confirmwed they will

[spare laurel]

Debating whether to just buy 9800x3d as my upgrade from 7600x before the prices shoot up

Already have 64gb of ddr5 in the system

[gilded sparrow]

no bc he will loose on speed

[azure topaz]

not on ddr4 especially if you have any resemblence of skill while buying

[gilded sparrow]

just get a 7800x3d

[void eagle]

kinda crazy that thanks to those damn clankers were stuck on like near decade old ram

[spare laurel]

I’m debating on either honestly

[wheat torrent]

Do you play games

[gilded sparrow]

100% will happen on ddr4

[void eagle]

cannot wait till the bubble bursts

[spare laurel]

I only have a 4070 ti super anyway

[azure topaz]

mf i ran 4800 on 4 mixed sticks, no it wont

[regal marlin]

bud it wont

[spare laurel]

Yeah but nothing too demanding, I don’t really need the 9800 but if the price is good might as well

[gilded sparrow]

this is life now

[azure topaz]

dont make me put together an am4 rig with 4 random sticks of ram to prove you wrong rn 😭

[gilded sparrow]

on what cpu

[void eagle]

I'm gonna drink a fancy ass bottle of wine when it does and I don't even drink alcohol

[azure topaz]

11700K

[regal marlin]

idgaf about the cpu and gpu price raises it will be like 10% so its like jack shit

[azure topaz]

4800 wont work on ryzen but the other freqs that work on ryzen do

trust me

[wheat torrent]

It's definitely an ai bubble but idk how It will burst

[gilded sparrow]

@void eagle what cpu do u have

[azure topaz]

ive overclocked literally every major ddr4 gen 😭

[void eagle]

it will atp we just gotta take bets until how long it takes for the investors to realize they're in a pyramid scheme

[void eagle]

5800X

[azure topaz]

so mixed 32GB kit at 3200 or 3600 will be fine

[regal marlin]

there will be a website people will make to bet on this shit

[void eagle]

man I'm so fucking pissed because if I didn't put the stupid pc build off until next year I would have been able to build a new damn pc already

[gilded sparrow]

isnt ryzen known for not liking mixed kits

[regal marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/toby-cry-phone-spider-man-cry-phone-spider-man-phone-toby-phone-gif-12875606672124040541

[spare laurel]

Currently my local market for the cpu is

7800X3D $320
9800X3D $450

[azure topaz]

you dont know how low of a speed that really is 😭

[regal marlin]

dyaum

[spare laurel]

Probably good enough for just 7800x3d

[azure topaz]

dawg i ran mixed samsung bdie and micron rev.e on my 7700k and still topped out at 3200

[wheat torrent]

Bet by investing on micron

[azure topaz]

still 4 sticks

[gilded sparrow]

upgarding mine rn just gotta wait til x mas

[wheat torrent]

Buy stocks

[regal marlin]

bro why

[wheat torrent]

Stocks is literally betting

[regal marlin]

why invest in micron

what would that do for me

[wheat torrent]

To bet on it

[gilded sparrow]

id invest in ther smaller manufatures

[regal marlin]

yes

[gilded sparrow]

perfect oppurtunity for them to come out the gates

[regal marlin]

DM me about what you are choosing

[azure topaz]

samsung b die + micron rev.e on a 2017 memory controller still hitting 3200

[gilded sparrow]

cant invest yet ubdergaed

[azure topaz]

i took out the mixed dimms and the cpu still topped out at 3200

[regal marlin]

underaged?

just ask your parents to make an investment account for you

[azure topaz]

joint account with parents

[regal marlin]

yeah

[azure topaz]

me and this guy locked in

[regal marlin]

fr

[charred shale]

Guess what cpu this is.

[azure topaz]

i dont have to

[gilded sparrow]

celeron idk

[azure topaz]

pentium M 360

[formal sonnet]

Hmm you know... that's not a bad idea. Hold my beer.

[regal marlin]

NO DONT

invest in smaller

[azure topaz]

@plain cypress good time for an $INTC shill

[formal sonnet]

Too late. Buy order has been placed. If I end up homeless I'm blaming you. /s

[azure topaz]

just saying bro take advantage

[vale lotus]

Can someone perchance help me download windows I'm on linux rn and need windows for steam compatability

[regal marlin]

js get proton

[south arrow]

Lol

[vale lotus]

Well the game I wanna play blocks it apparently

[void eagle]

wanna sell me 16 GB of DDR5 I'll pay shipping 😭

[regal marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/pesado-dios-mio-stressed-problematic-oh-no-gif-12622815322168322147

join the ATL discord server

[azure topaz]

do you want a stick thats missing a cap

[void eagle]

wdym cap

[azure topaz]

capacitor

[vale lotus]

What?

[regal marlin]

all things linux

[azure topaz]

you just need to get one from another stick and itll work again

[void eagle]

how does that even happen

[regal marlin]

they can trouble shoot

[midnight wind]

taping on a new capacitor

[azure topaz]

it fell out of my dimm slot while i was swapping dimms and it fell perfectly enough to knock of a capcitor

[void eagle]

that is unlucky wtf

[charred shale]

Hmmm.

[azure topaz]

just steal one from an old stick, the stick itself is good, hynix a die, 16GB, does 9000mhz

[azure topaz]

then whys it say 360 here

[void eagle]

I don't have any ddr5 to steal a cap from 🫠

[azure topaz]

\

[midnight wind]

buy some first I hear its cheap

[azure topaz]

its a capacitor not a ram chip bro

[regal marlin]

no it says 09E

[azure topaz]

you could literally take one off a random ddr3 dimm lol

[charred shale]

Hmm.

[midnight wind]

would they really be the same specs

[charred shale]

Guess the computer.

[azure topaz]

if you have the ability to replace a capacitor you have the ability to measure a capacitor

[midnight wind]

how do you measure the missing capacitor... unless you have kept it and send it with the stick just detached

[azure topaz]

there is two sticks

guess who still has both

[void eagle]

oh lol

[charred shale]

I'll give you a hint. It was built in 2005.

[void eagle]

wait why didn't u just do that gen q

[midnight wind]

someone's gonna try it and end up destroying the second stick when desoldering the capacitor

[azure topaz]

i wanted an excuse to buy different dimms

[azure topaz]

this is why you use old DDR3 dimms

why would you take the capacitor off the second already working stick

[void eagle]

nah I'll just send it to Louis Rossman 💀

[azure topaz]

you can measure it

[midnight wind]

but you'd have to measure the capacitor of the actual stick? not just a random unrelated piece of ram?

[azure topaz]

leave it on the dimm 😭

[midnight wind]

To measure it; you can't measure it while its in the circuit

[charred shale]

Guess the computer from the photo.

[void eagle]

you could maybe find the data sheet for the ram module

[azure topaz]

i dont know old computers i just know how to read the intel production thingies

im sure its a jedec ddr5 pcb

[void eagle]

and figure out what capacitor it uses?

[midnight wind]

idk if you'd find a full schematic, probably just generic specs about it

[charred shale]

I can give you hints.

[wheat torrent]

🔥

[midnight wind]

you'd need a full diagram showing all the circuits

[wheat torrent]

Stand on business

[charred shale]

It was built in 2005, and is produced by Toshiba.

[azure topaz]

then a satellite of sorts probably

[charred shale]

Close.

[azure topaz]

only 2000$ straight from jedec

much cheaper than new ram

[midnight wind]

based

[void eagle]

I wonder if we'll see something cursed like new AM5 boards that support DDR3 or 4 thanks to the rampocalypse

it would be slow as shit but at least you could source the ram

[azure topaz]

lowkey it mighta actually ripped the pads off too

[azure topaz]

the am5 memory controller doesnt support DDR4 or DDR3

so, no.

[void eagle]

what about ECC?

[azure topaz]

pretty sure AMD has always left ECC support to the board maker

but it would be DDR5 ECC memory

[void eagle]

so we could see cursed consumer DDR5 ECC boards

[azure topaz]

DDR5 ECC is more expensive as it requires more ram chips, so nah

[void eagle]

yeah but guess what data centers will throw away when the bubble bursts

[azure topaz]

not their on gen DDR5 memory lol

[void eagle]

they wouldn't need an insane amount as they do now

[azure topaz]

okay but they already bought it

most companies dont bother reselling their old stuff

[regal marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-fire-coffee-dog-gif-10959043

[azure topaz]

the ones that do are smart but it is a lot of man hours to sell things

[regal marlin]

So guys what stocks should I invest in for ram

[azure topaz]

you shoulda seen the stuff my job threw away lol

tis why i have so much hardware rn

[regal marlin]

Could you send me an ssd

I need one lmfao

[azure topaz]

define

[regal marlin]

2280 1-2TB NVME ssd

[azure topaz]

dont have

[regal marlin]

Damn

What do you have

[azure topaz]

do you think office computers are speced with 2tb ssds?

[regal marlin]

Idk

[night delta]

most come with 256gb

[azure topaz]

lol extra 100$ per machine on a rig that will use no more than 500

[azure topaz]

ding ding ding

512 is moving to be the new standard quickly however

all of the machines we ordered at work before they laid me off were 512 and not 256 anymore

[regal marlin]

Do you have an HDD or SATA drive?

[night delta]

usually some dram-less sk hynix or samsung ssds

[azure topaz]

i have 2 1tb drives that are old and some 240GB sata drives and many 256GB nvme drives

so many 256GB ssds that they just are scattered around my room

theres like 12-15

[night delta]

you can make a flash only nas out of it

if the health is still good

[azure topaz]

dont need+ i do lol

[void eagle]

flash only nas sounds so cursed but also so cool

[azure topaz]

my nas is flash based besides the 4TB hdds i got from work also free

[azure topaz]

2x512GB NVME ssds and 2x4TB HDDs

[molten patrol]

just curious why my thermal paste doesnt stick to the copper plate of my AIO? (using TF7)

[regal marlin]

Can I get like 2 256gb ssds

[azure topaz]

• another 4TB hdd sitting in a box as cold spare

[azure topaz]

even my server was from work LMAO

[night delta]

have you actually put any heat onto it

[azure topaz]

what

[night delta]

also TF7 is a very viscous paste

[molten patrol]

yeah

[azure topaz]

what youre asking is strange

what do you mean

[night delta]

wait yeah wdym it dosent stick..

[azure topaz]

thermal paste is not meant to be a thick consistent layer across the whole cpu/gpu/whatever

[spare laurel]

fk it, think ill still be holding onto my 7600x first, ill wait for potential price drops next year for x3d chips and not going back up

[frigid blade]

IT WORKS

[azure topaz]

its meant to be as thin of possible of a layer to fill micrrogaps in eacch of the contact surfaces

[regal marlin]

Floppa can I get two 256gb ssds?

[azure topaz]

brother for what

[night delta]

TF7 has a clay like consistency out of the tube usually

[azure topaz]

yeah thats fine though

[regal marlin]

Linux and some files

[molten patrol]

ok normally when u apply them it still just stick on the IHS right but my TF7 i can pick it up 💀

[azure topaz]

did you squish the cooler on???

[night delta]

....huh????

[molten patrol]

kinda , yeah

[azure topaz]

so no you didnt

[night delta]

did you actually turned on the computer???

[azure topaz]

put the paste on the cpu and screw the cooler on and be done

[night delta]

and let it run??

[molten patrol]

okok

[azure topaz]

the force of your hand squishing the cooler is not nearly the same amount of mounting pressure as screwing hte cooler on

[clear canyon]

the pressure would be uneven and inconsistant too

[night delta]

its not like mx4 or nt-h1

[azure topaz]

yes

legit just put a glob on there and screw the cooler down

it will do the work. pc thermals are overblown as fuck and idk why tbh

90c the bitch is still operating at peak speed

[night delta]

if its not tjmax, its fine

[azure topaz]

the computer knows when its too hot and thats kinda the end of story

if its not literally turrning off under load its cool enough

[azure topaz]

even this idk if am5 cpus have a true tjmax of 95c but they hit 95c all the time

[void eagle]

I'm holding onto my 5800 and 32 GB ddr4, hoping nothing dies and then I'll build a new pc in probably idk 2028 or whenever the clankers stop ruining everything

[azure topaz]

95c does not mean bad things it means your cpu is literally doing as good of a job as it can to be as fast as possible on modern ryzen

if your cpu is above the rated base clock at whatever temperature its at, youre fine

[night delta]

im holding onto a 5600g for dear life until the market crashes

...probably until summer next year

[void eagle]

AI bubble bursts*

[clear canyon]

i use a 5700g in my nas lol

[azure topaz]

im waiting for novalake

[void eagle]

it'll fuck the economy up but it's good in the long run for consumer electronics

[azure topaz]

mmm 52c intel and big cache chip

[night delta]

its gonna be fineeeeee

[azure topaz]

excited

[night delta]

6 cores is still okayyy

[azure topaz]

my nas is a 10700

[void eagle]

maybe developers will finally optimise their damn games

[clear canyon]

nice

we are both very overkill XD

[regal marlin]

DMs

[molten patrol]

how the hell u have 3 LAN port? pcie extension?

[night delta]

thanks to the bubble am5 is nothing but a pipe dream...

[spare laurel]

we love servers here

[azure topaz]

@regal marlin i am not currently in the financial state to give away hardware as i just got laid off like 2 weeks ago

[regal marlin]

Oh I’m sorry you lost your job!

[night delta]

one of my friends is planning to use his mac trash can as a server

so thats smthn.

[clear canyon]

VPN, built in NIC and 10gig NIC

[azure topaz]

4 lan port 1 card

[void eagle]

remember to hold this against the companies that decided to pivot to this stupid ass bubble

I for one am never buying a crucial product again

even when they inevitably come crawling back

[night delta]

i got two sticks of it in my system rn

prob the last time i bought from them too

[void eagle]

I have a crucial nvme and ssd

[native path]

Can't wait to buy my drives to setup TrueNAS

[void eagle]

good drives but the company decided to fuck their consumers over for the literal definition of a sunk cost fallacy

[clear canyon]

my nas runs a duel 10gig, single 2.5gig and a single gigabit nics

[azure topaz]

currently no high speed networking in my nas

just 1gbit but that will change eventually

[clear canyon]

10gig is so nice

[native path]

What i'm running at the moment

[clear canyon]

and its pretty cheap

[azure topaz]

im on only 2 hdds so i dont need 10g but i may as well buy 10g

[clear canyon]

I run hard drives thats SSD cached

[azure topaz]

i only got ram caching on rn buut SSD cache would be smart+nice

[native path]

This is my thinking as well, i'm gonna buy 3 HDDs and get a 10g nic, i'm probably not gonna use the nic for now but eventually down the line I would

[molten patrol]

1 more question which one better mx6 or TF7

[clear canyon]

if you wanna do what I did and do a funny, grab one of these: https://a.co/d/8ycSLW8

XD

[azure topaz]

would alleveiate my ram

[thorny saddle]

get rid of all ram

[azure topaz]

:<

[clear canyon]

shut up nerd, I need my ram >:(

[thorny saddle]

fine

[azure topaz]

id love to put 128gb in my server

[clear canyon]

buy me 128 gigs too while ur at it

[azure topaz]

it supports ECC but ig not registerred

or it was because mine were 4r

[iron glen]

Hi 5nail

[azure topaz]

im not suire

[thorny saddle]

hi

[iron glen]

I wonder how much a 256gb ddr4 ram kit is rn

[spare laurel]

im still running a weird chinese pcie card for 10gb

2x marvell es nic
2x nvme slot

on a pcie 3 x4 lane, with a bifurcate plx chip on board

[clear canyon]

2 generations worth of income

[iron glen]

That'll be their problem

[spare laurel]

iommu wasnt working before but the slot couldnt bifurcate, think its cuz its a chipset lane

[native path]

Any nic recommendations for 10g? Ideally I don't wanna throw a tiny fan on it but i'm starting to accept that I need to

[spare laurel]

changed it to a cpu lane slot and bifurcated it to different iommu groups now

[azure topaz]

we are cooked

[iron glen]

No
Nicotine is bad for you

[thorny saddle]

what speed

[azure topaz]

mmm stimulants

[native path]

my fault

[iron glen]

Average idk

[spare laurel]

gotta love seeing es on ur devices

[thorny saddle]

Well consider 32GB 2Rx4 PC4-2133-2400 is going for like $95/ea

[clear canyon]

I run this in my windows computers: https://a.co/d/hZ0exfq

they dont have drivers for truenas tho

[iron glen]

Damn

[azure topaz]

an ES nic isnt even cool i thought you were talking about a cpu or something

bro some guy behind aquantia found those in a dumpster and put them on a different pcb in all reality

like unironically that is what happened

[azure topaz]

cooking or something

i can boot up my 3700x to feel included

[native path]

Hmm, don't think I can run that then unfortunately

[random gyro]

dang

[clear canyon]

I run the "Intel X540-T2 10G Dual" in my nas

it has drivers, tho its an old nic

[azure topaz]

you cerrtainly have a computer

[clear canyon]

not a bad deal

got this like 2 years ago

[azure topaz]

they need some form of airflow in the case though

[clear canyon]

you need a way to cool it

[azure topaz]

oh my god creaperr youre so smart

[native path]

Oh sweet, i'll look into that. I'll probably need a fan on that but it's cheap so meh

[midnight wind]

only 1 socket, amateurs

[azure topaz]

GOD I LOVE not seeing blatant misinfo in tc1

"your gen 4 drive doesnt need a heatsink" BRO WHAT

[spare laurel]

yeah i know its not ideal

its a chinese nic so i didnt expect much

[azure topaz]

shame on you for no intel dumpster cpu

[spare laurel]

theres a gen 4x4 one tho, but ill probably go dedicated x550-at2 or something

[native path]

Always found these messages funny cause there's just no way anyone could believe this

[clear canyon]

yeah, my nas has a 120mm fan on the side cover blowing on all pcie devices and I got this baby: https://a.co/d/anyhYqU

[spare laurel]

got that mainly for the m.2 slots since i can technically just passthrough the whole card to my NAS VM

[random gyro]

Well ya its a desktop

[azure topaz]

bro ive had gen 3 drives overheat without a heatsink its crazy

[clear canyon]

Solid fan

[spare laurel]

but didnt even end up using it, im just using a single 10g slot on it lol

[azure topaz]

unironically my p31 installing gtav overheated and throttled

gtav is a huge like 120gb game and i have fast internet so it makes sense but

[azure topaz]

(the best gen 3 drive btw)

[native path]

Anyone who has said that you don't need a heatsink on your gen 4 drive

1. Doesn't own a gen 4 drive
2. Saw a tiktok comment and followed through with it

[azure topaz]

yeah basically but thats the entirety of this chat

[native path]

fairs

I'm gonna give advice on a topic i'm completely uneducated on because I read a comment off the internet, by someone who also doesn't know what they're talking about

[midnight wind]

just stop utilizing your hardware so well

[azure topaz]

💀

youve got a point

[midnight wind]

take a coffee break when you install gta

[clear canyon]

awesome idea!!!!!!