tech-chat-1

[magic silo]

yeah you should be good for 4k

[tulip sparrow]

Minus my GPU which bogs down even at 1440p thanks to the vram amount let alone tossing VR mods ontop of the stupiud requirements of modern games

[magic silo]

:/

[tulip sparrow]

VR adds an extra 1-2GB of vram usage ontop of what the game uses by itself

So yeah running a game fine on my monitor is good but once I toss in my Quest 3 things just fall apart

[swift moss]

😭

[plush wren]

pocket money

[swift moss]

BRO WHAT 😭 this is honestly special crucial made like 90% of the budget ram

only stuff like skynix competing

why is there even a ram shortage just make more ram

[tulip sparrow]

AI slop gobbling it all up

[swift moss]

thought HBM was a completely different thing

[gilded sparrow]

is a rx6600 to a 5070 a big enough leap in performance to justify the upgrade?

[tulip sparrow]

AI slop uses GPUS with LARGE amounts of VRAM aka HBM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foFwFlXhj20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aRTuw23YN4

[ivory mountain]

not even a good kit either

good fuck micron

[swift moss]

yes but HBM and SDRAM are different production lines

i guess they close the SDRAM lines for higher profit HBM lines

[dusty dew]

@rigid fjord WRONG color, lol

ordered black they gave pink

[steel umbra]

https://youtu.be/DGjj7wDYaiI?

[tulip sparrow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/rDk_LsON3CM

[distant basalt]

i think this is truly it with ram pricing for a long time

this sucks for us, like sucky suck suck baaadly suck for us consumers
this might even give other nand manufacturers some inspiration or ideas... (knocks on wood)

[tulip sparrow]

sighs https://www.androidauthority.com/att-verizon-block-t-life-app-3621835/

[distant basalt]

us germans like to respond to really bad news with simply "tja" which translates to "welp, screw me i guess"

very fitting this current day

tja

[rose stream]

Hmm...

[still escarp]

Micron just bounced. LoL.

[regal marlin]

i need help... i just opened my thermalright aqua elite v3 and it only has the am4 mounting brackets, where are the am5 mounting brackets

[green fern]

I literally posted micron's statement earlier lol

[charred ledge]

What are some of the go-to mice these days? I have been using the Razer Naga for the 12 side buttons for 5 years for when I play Runescape and GW2. But 2 of them have broke on me in the same way now in that time and I cannot be spending that much on a mouse that often as much as I like it. Honestly may go back to the good old reliable G502.

[dusty dew]

@rigid fjord not fanboying on "Nokia" but I really wonder where the haters are hating on this one?

[iron glen]

If theres a will theres a way

[dusty dew]

I mean with the accessories the price is outrageous, but the Standalone box price aint bad, for something repairable and is a different frame design

[dusty dew]

like you get it at 160-180 bucks give or take

[iron glen]

Like i said if theres a will theres a way

[swift stream]

what did you guys get

[dusty dew]

for a uniquely shaped phone that aint a body copy of apple or samsung--- yeah they hit the spot, but out of all their lineup only one is like this

[iron glen]

Really niche creators ig
Idk its not out yet

[swift stream]

i have apple music 😛

[dusty dew]

if these people are looking here--- they need to use it as springboard for the new HMD soul-- no.... They could revive "Nokia" with this. Just like how Motorola is coming back from the brink

[iron glen]

Hi ace

[dusty dew]

since their lineup has a design that is non generic

[empty quartz]

But why

[empty quartz]

Haiiii

[swift stream]

i like the ui and lossless

[dusty dew]

apple music? what is that, sorry Im cave ppl

[swift stream]

also has sing mode

[craggy cove]

imagine you dont spam tidal free trials every month

[iron glen]

Ngl im considering getting an mp3 player

[empty quartz]

Lemme guess you try to use lossless but use wireless headphones

[dusty dew]

@craggy cove the phone is here

[iron glen]

Just because of this

Also hi http

[dusty dew]

and I love it

[craggy cove]

hello

[swift stream]

i get monthly reports

[craggy cove]

nothing phone was it?

[iron glen]

Nokia

[dusty dew]

nah, picked nokia

[empty quartz]

:3

[craggy cove]

i actually quit doing the free tidal thing this month because i honestly cant hear any difference between yt music and tidal lossless

[dusty dew]

NP 2 ran out of stock

[iron glen]

How do i see it

[dusty dew]

NP1 is less durable

[craggy cove]

which

[empty quartz]

Spottyfy wrapped

[iron glen]

Idk lol

[craggy cove]

wasnt it np2 pro plus minus or whatever

[dusty dew]

The Skyline

[iron glen]

Yeah ik how do i see it

[dusty dew]

ran out of stock

[empty quartz]

Should say

[dusty dew]

price is prohibitive on the next shop

[craggy cove]

not a bad choice honestly

i remember it being really repairable too

[dusty dew]

so it was just moto vs nokia, and with my BAD exp with Android 15 on moto, i gave Nokia a shot

my moto is bad at restarts, like takes 20-30min to boot

that is before the screen broke

[dusty dew]

yep, and I now wonder why people review bombed it

its a breath of fresh air design wise

[empty quartz]

Speaking of broken screens… i gotta fix my glorified tv remote lg v20

[craggy cove]

cause it was priced badly at launch

500€ or something

which is not good for a 7s gen 2 phone

[dusty dew]

well they added junk with it thats why

remove all junk, and price is good

[craggy cove]

that was 8 gen 3 money if you went with a poco or something

[dusty dew]

yeeep, they should have started with box only sales

[craggy cove]

okay 8 gen 3 would be optimistic

[dusty dew]

not adding the gyro stuff accs

not all people need those

[empty quartz]

:3

[swift stream]

got a new ui and animations for iOS 26

[craggy cove]

no bracket having loser, i would never

[empty quartz]

(Had that valve to prevent water leaking)

[craggy cove]

slight chance my 13600kf i bought used is cooked but i havent tested it enough

cause according to the warranty its 2 years old

[empty quartz]

My 14600k was 240 cad

[craggy cove]

this was 120€

aint that crazy

apparently this also performs like the 7800x3d now?

but i doubt you get the 0.1% lows

[dusty dew]

ah, well I dont have cash for apple, I mean its good and optimized

@craggy cove they thought also that going Apple tactic will get them good profit immediately, quite a mistake. Should have learned from motorola TBH

started mid ranged looking premium, then climb up when people start buying

[iron glen]

Im ashamed to admit mine was some bum ahh hoodtrap artist 🥀

[proven shoal]

everyones got their tastes

[craggy cove]

quite honestly i have no idea what they have been doing

[proven shoal]

mine was weeknd

[craggy cove]

first they stuck to dumb phones for way too long

then they went on to microsoft's sinking windows phone ship

[iron glen]

Ig

[proven shoal]

bought a 12500t for £75

[iron glen]

Didn't even know Spotify recognizes that many

[proven shoal]

i listened to 195

4011 songs and 1774 artists

[gloomy sleet]

idk man i think i like terraria music

[proven shoal]

From what i can tell, i think you like minecraft

[iron glen]

Didn't give me that one :/

[proven shoal]

its at the end

[ivory mountain]

same

[gloomy sleet]

idk how laura shigihara slipped in there i don’t remember listening to any pvz music

[ivory mountain]

peak

[iron glen]

Is it the album?

Top1 album or smth idk

[proven shoal]

no

it should be in the recap at the end

[iron glen]

Nvm found it

[proven shoal]

wtf is hard tech 😭

[iron glen]

Hard techno

[proven shoal]

ah

[iron glen]

Crunch by tnt is a good example

[iron glen]

Hardtekk is also a geanre but that's a bit different

[mint umbra]

I read article that ran prices might not go down till 2028 or later bruh why is everything so cooked these days

[craggy cove]

i need a cheap alder lake cpu to test if my h610 works 💔

[craggy cove]

ai is the why here

[proven shoal]

look at 12100f

also i would avoid anything that says intel confidential

[mint umbra]

Feels like I'm getting priced out of PC gaming

[craggy cove]

would be weird to buy new and nobody is selling them for whatever reason

[craggy cove]

funny engineering sample tho

[mint umbra]

Might have to go back to playing on a console

[proven shoal]

only works with specific mobos afaik

[daring crystal]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRx1sIgklRL/?igsh=MXcxNHFjeHNidmZ3eg==

Does this work?

signal_rgb

The RAM prices skyrocketing means taking drastic measures like converting your GPU into a RAM stick #pcgaming #pcgamer #gaming #pcsetup #pcbuild

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[mint umbra]

If prices don't normalize

[daring crystal]

Steam machine soon 🤑🤑🤑

[iron glen]

Probably but not well

[proven shoal]

what about a g6900

[iron glen]

Iirc the order is
Ram - vram - storage

[mint umbra]

Steam machine isn't a console I doubt it will be cheap with ram prices

[proven shoal]

here you can buy it from a used store for £42 or the 14100f for £58

[craggy cove]

cause i dont hate myself

and it has to be alder lake cause im pretty sure the bios isnt updated

[proven shoal]

i mean if you want to test

[craggy cove]

well true ig

shouldve phrased it better

just cheap alder lake cpu

[mint umbra]

Heard some ram manufacture is pulling out of consumer market

[daring crystal]

Steam machine is a console bruv

[proven shoal]

ffs this used store are now selling a 13100t for 58 and a 12400 for 90

[daring crystal]

That's like saying the steam deck isn't a handheld

[proven shoal]

i think my 12500t for £75 was a decent deal

[mint umbra]

No it's not it's a pre built pc

[craggy cove]

idk why i didnt try my 13600kf just in case the bios was updated

[mint umbra]

With a custom os

[craggy cove]

lol ok go ahead and build that

[daring crystal]

And the difference between that and an Xbox and PlayStation?

[proven shoal]

i have a MSI MPG Z790I EDGE and i am gonna pair it with a 12500t lol

[daring crystal]

Xbox and PlayStations are prebuild PCs what you talking about 😡😡😡

[grim moon]

Xbox and PS don't run desktop OS

[craggy cove]

damn usually its the other way lol

[mint umbra]

You can install whatever you want on the steam machine like you can change the os to windows if you want

[craggy cove]

you had linux on the playstation

[mint umbra]

It's a PC mate

[craggy cove]

doesnt mean it wasnt a console

[proven shoal]

i am not sure if the mobo works. i bought it from auction and i dont have the cpu to test it with

[grim moon]

Valve calls it a PC

[craggy cove]

playstation 2 i think

[proven shoal]

connecting a psu to it gave a cpu light so theres hope

[daring crystal]

Handhelds do that but that doesn't make them prebuild PCs

[mint umbra]

Valve has even marketed it as a PC

And isn't competing with consoles pricing

[proven shoal]

its a mini pc smh

[craggy cove]

then again valve says this ig

potato potato

[mint umbra]

Those are hand held PCs

[craggy cove]

calling it a console isnt wrong imo

[grim moon]

Not once has Valve referred to it as a console

[proven shoal]

consoles are pcs which are just locked

[grim moon]

Just because its a small form factor doesn't make it one

[wheat torrent]

semantics

[proven shoal]

theres literally no other differences

[topaz shale]

you can run doom on a console

[wheat torrent]

you can run doom on a pregnancy tester

[mint umbra]

So if I install steam os on my PC is it now a console

[grim moon]

Apparently so

[topaz shale]

no if you install doom on your pc it is a console

[rose stream]

Besides the old stuff that is.

And by that meaning 5th gen and earlier.

[steep sierra]

Is $800 CAD a good price for a 3090?

[rose stream]

Unless we were talking the Dreamcast, PS2, and PS3, everything 6th afterwards became quite pc like, even arcade cabinets of that time (save for only one type from Konami running 3DO M2 hardware that never came to be.)

Nobody's done a console that isn't PC or phone-like in a while that isn't just a pure retro system, Panic! Playdate aside.

But then that's just a handheld running on a microcontroller, so eh.

[warm saddle]

why is my NVME SSD running only at 500MB/s when it should be running at 4150 MB/s

?

[rose stream]

Then again, most handheld consoles were for the longest time anyway, up until the Vita, 3DS, and SHIELD handheld that is.

[mortal venture]

is realme gt master edition worth fixing?

I got it for free

[craggy cove]

how are you measuring that speed

[craggy cove]

whats the problem with it

[warm saddle]

In hwinfo, installing game for steam

[mortal venture]

it needs new charging port and back cover

[distant frigate]

https://youtu.be/nVQo76iEoms?si=PnCY4KFL2OW28Q8n

CRISPR is awesome

[swift stream]

apple music is suprisingly cheaper than spotify premium, but it is by only one US dollar

[topaz shale]

apple music is cool but i have used spotify my whole life

i like how they actually have spacial sound enabled on tracks that have it

[swift stream]

it has music haptics on iOS devices

[valid canyon]

apple music feels like getting locked in a metal bucket with crayfish

[low otter]

and I love it like that

[vital marlin]

I need to do a deep virus scan on a friends computer. What are people using for that now a days

[topaz shale]

how deep are you talking

[vital marlin]

Deep enough to tell if chrome has been hijacked

[unique tapir]

Finally got it

[topaz shale]

yooo starlink is actually goated

ive used that panel before its kinda nuts how good it is

[vital marlin]

@topaz shale

[topaz shale]

i was trying to find the tool i use but i dont think its availible anywhere

[vital marlin]

What’s it called?

[topaz shale]

mri scan

it does not appear to be public

[cursive swan]

ik this is a stupid ass question but is there a way to dm linus or the crew

[unique tapir]

Cheaper than Spectrum

[cursive swan]

250 mb for $80. Damn costs more then expected

[topaz shale]

im paying 85 for 700/700 plus static ip

thats cooked

[cursive swan]

i got gigabit for that price i think

[topaz shale]

oh nvm its a little more

[vital marlin]

Isn’t MRI Best Buy’s internal tool?

[ebon marlin]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies/segoteps-titanload-12v-2x6-cables-use-heavier-duty-pins-to-prevent-meltdowns-brute-force-approach-purportedly-drops-peak-temps-by-up-to-72-percent

[topaz shale]

yeah

i was trying to see if i could find the software itself anywhere but my SEO must be bad

[vital marlin]

It requires the local server to feed it the exes. But the list of tools would be nice to know

[topaz shale]

mri is really fucking good

also it doesnt need the local server. there are usb's with the tools on them

[cursive swan]

ok is the evga 3060ti good

[unique tapir]

It’s not that bad

[topaz shale]

depends on the price

[cursive swan]

i did a build for a friend and he js bought the parts

it was $219

[topaz shale]

meh

[cursive swan]

i mean with a 12600kf its decent right

i js dont want him to be pissed off bc i built a bad pc

[topaz shale]

yeah its certainly not a bad pc

[cursive swan]

dude what are the ram prices tho 💀

[topaz shale]

i think its just slightly above average according to steam hardware survey

[cursive swan]

i saved him $300

according to pcpartpicker

[topaz shale]

wym saved

didnt you spend the money

[delicate lion]

Rising thats what

[cursive swan]

no he asked for a part list

[topaz shale]

oh

[cursive swan]

lol, built my pc in july so happy

[topaz shale]

bought 64gb of ddr5 ram the other day

[delicate lion]

How's that bank account looking

[grim moon]

-$800

[delicate lion]

More

[topaz shale]

i meannn

[grim moon]

Last I checked lol

[cursive swan]

bros in debt

[delicate lion]

I cant afford that but also why would i ever want that much.

[topaz shale]

i only paid 280

[cursive swan]

Corsair vengeance at 64gb cl32 6400 is $900

[delicate lion]

Used?

[cursive swan]

Holy shit where'd you snag that

gotta be like cl40 or smth

[topaz shale]

brand new

[delicate lion]

What's Cl stand for

[cursive swan]

Idk bit ik it has to do with quality

[topaz shale]

DDR5 6400 C32

[cursive swan]

according to google its latancy

[cursive swan]

HOW

[topaz shale]

magic

[delicate lion]

It's clock cycles ok

[cursive swan]

dude fb marketplace

[delicate lion]

He full of shi

[cursive swan]

someone had died and a reletive was getting rid of it i swear

[topaz shale]

nah i was looking at what they sell for on ebay and they are selling consistently for 400, 500$.

[cursive swan]

oh

that makes sense bc i found a 9060xt for $32 on ebay

[delicate lion]

bargain

I bought a ferrari on ebay but it never came

[cursive swan]

I got mine off aliexpress

[delicate lion]

Damn

[cursive swan]

it sent me a picture

wasnt even a png 💀

[topaz shale]

okay so 310 after tax

[ivory mountain]

my spectrum has gone out 8 times today

[cursive swan]

shit i found my ram kit new on ebay for the same price as i got it in aug

[topaz shale]

if only i had these prices for ddr4

[unique tapir]

Starlink now provides a free install kit

Check it out

[cursive swan]

Is expo required to use expo ram

nvm XMP and EXPO are mutually exclusive

[cursive swan]

Dude it says product price 906 and total as 309

[topaz shale]

correct

[cursive swan]

coupons?

[merry ridge]

This thing for 800 is it worth it?

[cursive swan]

I googled the visible parts. Looks like its about the same price to build right now

[ivory mountain]

the seller doesnt even have xmp on lmfaooo

[cursive swan]

But honestly with the shortages it could be an investment

[topaz shale]

dont try to invest in this fucked up market you will be burned

[cursive swan]

wait is that ddr4 market

[ivory mountain]

could make a pc with a 5600 and a 9060xt for a lot cheaper ngl

[cursive swan]

lol

5600 is a am4 right

[merry ridge]

Can anyone help me make a list for 800 ish?

[ivory mountain]

Yes

[cursive swan]

Nevermind dont listen to me do not buy

ddr4 is not worth it rn imo

[topaz shale]

we making ddr3 systems

[ivory mountain]

Id get a 9060xt instead of a 5060ti im ngl

Much cheaper

[cursive swan]

8gb or 16gb

[ivory mountain]

16

[cursive swan]

not cheeper then a 5060ti rn

but i agree its better

[sinful terrace]

just got one

upgraded from a 2060, definetly satisfied

[cursive swan]

Used or for black friday?

[sinful terrace]

just bought today lol

just installed it

[cursive swan]

the 9060 or 5060

[sinful terrace]

5060TI

[ivory mountain]

Yea they are cheaper lmao

In the usa at least

[cursive swan]

lots of pros are saying that 5060ti is worst price to performance card rn

[sinful terrace]

$400 for a new gen GPU and 16gb of vram...

[cursive swan]

but i can see why its better then a 20 series

[ivory mountain]

the cheapest on pcpartpicker is 349 for the 16gb model

[cursive swan]

but look on mbpc

270

[sinful terrace]

im never shipping a gpu ever again

[ivory mountain]

what

[cursive swan]

mbpc.gg

[ivory mountain]

who the hell uses this site 😭

[cursive swan]

i did for my cpu

i didnt have the money for a brand new 12700k

saved $150

[ivory mountain]

and where are u seeing a 9060xt for $270 at

[cursive swan]

i meant 5060ti

but it sold and was taken down

[ivory mountain]

8gb ewwww

[cursive swan]

8gb 9060xt for $290

yeah but some ppl cant afford 16gb

[ivory mountain]

yeah and a 16gb 9060xt is 350

[sinful terrace]

offload vram to system memory if its an issue

(dont)

[cursive swan]

i wasnt even gonna have a gpu until my reletive gave me a practically brand new 3060ti

[ivory mountain]

8gb cards always suffer the same issue the 3070 did

[sinful terrace]

u realize that 8gb is huge

[ivory mountain]

for vram no its not anymore

[cursive swan]

its not good for AAA anymore

[sinful terrace]

its just game devs now adays r ass at optimizations

vulkan 1.4 all the way baby

[cursive swan]

i mean i can run last of us and Minecraft at the same time with my 3060ti only hitting 50% usage

[sinful terrace]

but anyways

[cursive swan]

Nah Boarderlands 4

[sinful terrace]

i have a problem

[cursive swan]

dude baraly hitting 60fps with a 5080

[sinful terrace]

i am usign my 5060ti 16gb with a ryzen 5 5600x.
should I get a ryzen 9 5950x for ~275$ usd? I have 128gb of ddr4 ecc and i dont wanna spend another grand getting newer parts rn

[cursive swan]

Get a 7600x3d

wait for a sale

[sinful terrace]

thats am4?

[cursive swan]

am5

[sinful terrace]

...

[ivory mountain]

these mfs make my brain hurt

[cursive swan]

its only $200 rn

[sinful terrace]

brother

[ivory mountain]

hes on am4 dude omg

[cursive swan]

how

[cursive swan]

ik i js realized that

[sinful terrace]

i dont want a new mother board and drop a grand on 128gb ddr5

[ivory mountain]

take this out of your bio holy shit

[cursive swan]

y r u stalking me brochacho

[topaz shale]

thats optimistic

[cursive swan]

Dude i am by no means an amd user so dont be suprised

Intel all the way

[sinful terrace]

yikes man

are they still on 14nm

[cursive swan]

wdym

[topaz shale]

modern intel is 4nm

with the ultra processors

[sinful terrace]

its a joke.

[cursive swan]

forgive me but what does that mean

[sinful terrace]

they were on 14nm for YEARS

[topaz shale]

yeah cause intel has killed its fab industry and never was able to make anything better than 14nm

[cursive swan]

I love my 12700k dude

[topaz shale]

how many times can we reinvent 14nm?

now intel is using tsmc

[sinful terrace]

i mean they did have the most efficient 14nm process

[topaz shale]

i would fucking hope so

[cursive swan]

oh its thickness

[sinful terrace]

"14nm"

[cursive swan]

shit im stupid

[sinful terrace]

realistically each transistor was like 60

[topaz shale]

transistor size

[sinful terrace]

nah its marketing

its gate size

[cursive swan]

They fixed the 13 and 14 series issues right

[sinful terrace]

no one answered my question tho.

[cursive swan]

What was it

[sinful terrace]

should i go r9 5950x for my 5060ti

ddr5 without ecc is hell

[ivory mountain]

what cpu do u have now

[topaz shale]

if its for gaming get the 5800x3d. if you really need the cores for rendering or what have you then get the 5950x

[sinful terrace]

r5 5600x

[ivory mountain]

yeah id get the 5800x3d instead of ur gaming like badgerraccoon said

[sinful terrace]

light gaming like minecraft or fortnite here and there. usually do LLM stuff on it

big time on workstation stuff

[topaz shale]

yeah probably 5950 then

[cursive swan]

is it worth it to get a 14700k or kf

[ivory mountain]

its the same cpu, the 14700K has an IGPU and the KF doesnt

[cursive swan]

Ij

[topaz shale]

kf doesnt have integrated graphics so it should usually be cheaper

[cursive swan]

ik im saying i have 12700k rn and should i upgrade to either

[topaz shale]

is it on the same socket?

[cursive swan]

yeah

LGA1700

[sinful terrace]

KF takes less wattage and cache

[wheat torrent]

a 1650 is equivalent render performance with a 5950x

[sinful terrace]

u cant compare parallel processing to multi theading brother

[wheat torrent]

yes correct

no reason to get a cpu for rendering

[sinful terrace]

im not rendering anything lol

[wheat torrent]

okay?!

[topaz shale]

[wheat torrent]

that message said to get 5950x for rendering and I mentioned a simple old GPU is equivalent to that CPU

thus pointing out that there is no point in getting a CPU for rendering when you can get a much cheaper GPU for the same task

and it will probably do said task better

[cursive swan]

god dram ssds are hella expensive

[shy arch]

I've seen that before

[topaz shale]

this is bait

[shy arch]

"God dram"

[sinful terrace]

this has to be ragebait

[wheat torrent]

?

[rigid fjord]

its more about how microsoft bought nokia out, screwed it over then shut it down and sold it off tbh, it's not like the OG nokia

[topaz shale]

microsoft is excellent at doing that

[wheat torrent]

using gpu instead of cpu for rendering = ragebait

[cursive swan]

anyone played nightreign compleatly yet?

[rigid fjord]

you'd bebetter off jumping to am5 instead

[sinful terrace]

ur missing context

128gb ddr5 ecc is mad expensive rn

[wheat torrent]

it is worth mentioning the ryzen 7 5800x will outperform the 5800x3d in most tasks other than gaming

[sinful terrace]

thats why i want to stay with am4 when I already ahve the 128gb ecc

[cursive swan]

get 32gb then

[rigid fjord]

the question is more of "why the fuck are you looking at dram cached nvme drives?, they offer you no advantage over dramless nvme drives let alone sata ssd's if it's for gaming

[cursive swan]

cuz im on a 2007 seagate barracuda

for a boot drive

[rigid fjord]

5700x would also, and it runs cooler than a 5800x

[cursive swan]

my pc takes 1 hour to fully boot

[wheat torrent]

my pc never shuts down

🗣️

always on that sleep mode

[rigid fjord]

then a good nvme drive like an sn580/mp44l/nm710 is what you'd want to look at

[cursive swan]

i got a tforce cardea 1tb

but it was $100 so...

not gonna be upgrading much more this year

[cursive swan]

then whats the point of dram

[craggy cove]

for ssds without hmb, notably sata ssds

[cursive swan]

its nvme

gen 4

[craggy cove]

so it has hmb most likely

i do not notice a difference between a nv3 and my 990 pro

[wheat torrent]

at high speeds it can mentain the speeds for longer period of time or whatever

[golden sage]

This gotta be a mistake bruh, how is 990 pro cheaper?

Samsung 990 Pro 1tb - $169
Samsung 980 pro 1tb - $189
Samsung 990 evo plus 1tb - $189

[cursive swan]

i just wanted a boot drive that didnt take a whole hour

[craggy cove]

or even my old 870 evo but that has dram too

[craggy cove]

sales n stuff

[fringe prairie]

i pray this is not usd

[craggy cove]

or just higher supply

[golden sage]

Yeah, it is Singapore Dollars

[craggy cove]

...

[wheat torrent]

990 pro 1tb is 215 usd here

[golden sage]

xD, isnt that a win for someone who wants to buy the 990 since its cheaper

[cursive swan]

do samsung drives really have that much of a benefit?

[latent pasture]

no

[craggy cove]

if youre gaming not really

[cursive swan]

overall whats the benefit

[latent pasture]

brandname

[cursive swan]

they are so much more for like nothing

[latent pasture]

thats it

[craggy cove]

my 990 pro was just cheaper than other 2tb drives for whatever reason

[cursive swan]

just buy a silicon power drive or something

[wheat torrent]

brand

[cursive swan]

half the time samsung makes the chips anyways

[craggy cove]

speed for large file transfers for projects + reliability (lol)

[golden sage]

I am in the market to buy a new pcie gen 4 ssd anyways, im replacing 2 of my gen 3 drives, one is OS and one is storage (im intending to move these gen 3 ssds to my 2nd computer, which is running on a hdd lol)

[cursive swan]

but like generally you dont see too many nvme drives having high fail rates

usually sata drives

[golden sage]

i read that gen 5 is expensive, runs hot

[craggy cove]

gen 5 is just stupid rn

[topaz shale]

does adata make nvme drives

[golden sage]

Tbh for my use case, i do more than gaming i personally see a gen 4 as enough

[cursive swan]

yes

[golden sage]

Yes. my current system's drives are all Adata

S40G 512/1TB

[craggy cove]

yes, mostly under their subbrand xpg

[topaz shale]

sorry to hear

[cursive swan]

your mobo has to have gen 5 compatibility too

[golden sage]

oh, how come? 🤔

[craggy cove]

for whatever reason my trash tier sort by cheapest b650 has nvme gen 5

[cursive swan]

dude what

i have a asrock z790 pro rs wifi and has only gen 4

all of them are gen 4 tho so thats a bonus

[craggy cove]

lol idk whats up with that

am5 i guess

then again my asus b760 tuf has pci e gen 5 even on the x16

[cursive swan]

like you tell me i spend $150 on a lga 1700 mobo thats RECENT i will remind you with gen 5 pcie but not nvme

[craggy cove]

wait i have pci e gen 5 for the x16 but 3 gen 4 slots for the nvme too

[golden sage]

Quick question, is 990 pro the undisputed king in performance for gen 4 or?

[craggy cove]

pretty much

[craggy cove]

700 series quirk ig

[cursive swan]

how is it not a top tier gaming ssd with dram

[wheat torrent]

performance doing what

[golden sage]

damn (1tb prices)

[wheat torrent]

because it doesn't matter as much as you think

[rigid fjord]

no

[golden sage]

Video Editing

honestly if i was just doing gaming i'd buy a gen 3 and call it a day

[cursive swan]

but even so the 990 has slower read speeds then my tforce cardea

[latent pasture]

bbbut what if i run crystaldiskmark as my daily job 😭😭😭

[craggy cove]

sn7100 then or what

[rigid fjord]

so?, you don't base it on sequential speeds when buying a nvme drive

[golden sage]

Hmm, do u have a link or some website i can read a "tierlist" of some-sort? i've been doing my own research too of course

[cursive swan]

Wait mb its 450mbps faster

[ivory mountain]

bye bye warzone and bo7

[rigid fjord]

better but for a fair while an nm790 from lexar matched the 990 pro for a long while

[cursive swan]

is bo7 as bad as ive heard?

[grizzled frost]

yes

[ivory mountain]

its pay to win bullshit

[rigid fjord]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit?pli=1&gid=0#gid=0 no tier list but this is good to use

[craggy cove]

i just remember them having flash swapping trickery

[latent pasture]

all ssd manufacturers do that

[rigid fjord]

that's the nq790 and later eq780

[latent pasture]

i dont think theres a single brand that hasnt done that

all of them have variable parts depending on whatever supply was there convenient

[craggy cove]

samsung?

[ivory mountain]

i cant remember if i have a mp44 or an mp44l

[craggy cove]

since all their stuff is in house

or id think so

[latent pasture]

they do too

[cursive swan]

rauko the tier list says my ssd is sata but its nvme

[shy olive]

Guys what is E-ATX?

[craggy cove]

atx but bigger

[cursive swan]

wait i was looking at the one above

mb

[golden sage]

Speaking of nvme drives, my friend keeps telling me i shouldnt upgrade my two drives or else there will be lane splitting/sharing, ion what he's smoking, the chart clearly shows i can put a gen 4 on M2_1 and M2_4 without any splitting no?

[latent pasture]

matx based

[golden sage]

damn, the e-atx looks humongous

[shy olive]

Arent they used mainly for workstation builds?

[wheat torrent]

depends on motherboard

[craggy cove]

possibly

[ivory mountain]

id get an EATX but the lancool 3 cant have a pump at the back with an EATX mobo

[shy olive]

Nvm

[latent pasture]

they dumb

[golden sage]

this is a x870 tomahawk wifi from MSI (not to be mistaken with x870E)

[shy olive]

Guys what is the motherboard that can host 2 cpu’s 16 slot of ram and 16 slot of storage and all those boom badoom numbers we all like to hear

[wheat torrent]

this all I can see

[cursive swan]

Isnt that for like xeon chips?

[shy olive]

Amd ryzen 10000x3D will be a banger

[latent pasture]

bc phoenix 2 has like 6x lanes left lol

[shy olive]

Yeah they are outdated

Man i wish they made newer models

[craggy cove]

yeah youll be fine

[shy olive]

I would love to see a workstation build packing 2 Ryzen 9950X3D

Imagine 256gigs of ddr5 ram

Maybe more

[sinful cobalt]

i regret stepping in here

[wheat torrent]

dont think it would work like that

[sinful cobalt]

reading what the fuck Muse said

[latent pasture]

i mean thats just the epycs

[craggy cove]

we can all dream

[latent pasture]

theres ones where all ccds have x3d

[wheat torrent]

epyc with socket sp5 and xeon with lga 4677

[latent pasture]

with like 1.4gb cache total

[craggy cove]

gonna install windows 7 on that

[shy olive]

Why wouldn’t it? I mean i’d say technology is pretty advanced so those multi billion dollar companies should be able to do that no?

[wheat torrent]

logistics

• failed investment

it will cost so much money to get consumer CPUs to work on dual cpus

and there would be no revenue made from it

[shy olive]

I dont think that’d be a problem for a multi billion dollar company tho

[wheat torrent]

people can barely buy one cpu

[shy olive]

yeah i mean i can see that

[wheat torrent]

capitalism doesn't work like that

the companies want to generate as much money as they can

[shy olive]

I mean aren’t there still people who buy 10k+ pc’s for for the fun of it?

[wheat torrent]

look at nvidia, can they do more consumer GPUs and more development in that regard faster, of course

[shy olive]

Money generator go boom

[wheat torrent]

but AI brings more money

[wheat torrent]

you have a few people buying such computers, then you have millions buying normal computers

[hardy mesa]

Are these all good PC parts

[shy olive]

Actually i agree with this but hey money offline go boom

[wheat torrent]

dual CPUs are made for server use mostly

if say you do editing or whatever

[shy olive]

We make for all then

[wheat torrent]

and you need a very good cpu for editing why would you want a dual ryzen 9 9950 when you can go for a threadripper

[shy olive]

Threadripper wont be very good for gaming

[wheat torrent]

dual cpus would have lower performance in gaming

[shy olive]

Isn’t the 9950X3D better in terms of gaming?

[wheat torrent]

than a single cpu

[shy olive]

yeah i’d guess they’d battle themselves for who will play the game ig

[rigid fjord]

not against a 9800x3d

[craggy cove]

go 32gb of ram

[shy olive]

well yeah but i was talking

[craggy cove]

ik ram is expensive but that ram is trash

[shy olive]

Bvm

[craggy cove]

and you dont need 64gb

[shy olive]

Ram prices go brr atp just steal

[wheat torrent]

back in the day we had exactly what youre describing just for GPUs

[rigid fjord]

send the link from the box above compatability instead, also that ram and ssd are atrocious

[hardy mesa]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NW22t3

[wheat torrent]

dual gpu systems using SLI, not a lot of people could afford it, people who could saw decent improvements IN SOME games but with time the performance gain was minimal if not worse because of artifacts

[shy olive]

Yeah ik what you mean people used 2 gpu’s but the games used only 1. I think 2 gpu’s are only good for rendering alot of stuff especially for vfx stuff and 3d stuff like blender(i think)

[wheat torrent]

most game studios did not add proper SLI support because the target audience was very small

[wheat torrent]

no

[hard cedar]

My CPU just shit it's self, the CPU graphics artifacted right infront of me and now it just freezes and won't boot up at all

[wheat torrent]

SLI was strictly for gaming

[shy olive]

No? Oh man, i was wrong. Should i delete my message

[wheat torrent]

youre good

[craggy cove]

igpu dead or cpu

[hard cedar]

Igpu

[wheat torrent]

with pc hardware it's not just throw 2x the hardware to get 2x the performance

[hard cedar]

I'm guessing

[craggy cove]

i have a i3 10100 with a dead igpu (pretty sure)

[wheat torrent]

4 modules of ram will perform worse than 2 modules of ram in most cases

[craggy cove]

works fine otherwise (pretty sure)

[wheat torrent]

you get more RAM but there are compromises

[hard cedar]

For me my i7 8700 just started artifacting

[wheat torrent]

you can get it to work but not always

[night delta]

accidentally 10100f

[hard cedar]

And it keeps freezing

[shy olive]

Oh well, if manufacturers actually spent the time and effort to make a custom mobo with different stuff to revolutionise and maybe just maybe make that possible, who knows. Maybe a new manufacturer will appear and will be named Toyosus.

[craggy cove]

they binned my cpu very late ig

[rigid fjord]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q9WBNz as you don't need to go 64gb on ddr5, do this instead

[shy olive]

I tried to make a joke but hey i tried

[wheat torrent]

new manufacturers won't appear

[shy olive]

Technically they would appear just not on pc’s side

[craggy cove]

ik its a matter of taste but damn that case is atrocious

[hardy mesa]

my friend says he wants a 2tb ssd which is the best 2tb ssd?

[shy olive]

Maybe for cars i mean they appear frequently

[hard cedar]

The CPU was fine then boom it kept freezing and now it's artifacting

[wheat torrent]

same thing for cars is what kinda happens with pc hardware

[hard cedar]

Do I get a whole new CPU and GPU combo or only gpu

[wheat torrent]

if a new car brand appears often or not they are just a sub brand of an already existing brand

same thing with pc hardware, if a new brand appears it often has ties to older brands or already existing brands

[shy olive]

I mean i think for cars manufacturers new ones can appear though

[wheat torrent]

and are just a new branch rather than a completly brand new manufacturer

[shy olive]

That is technically a new manufacturer, no? On the technical side, technology. Get it

[craggy cove]

wait i thought your cpu igpu was dead? why get a new gpu?

[hard cedar]

Because I never had a GPU in my pc

[wheat torrent]

volkswagen

[shy olive]

I dont see any toyota in sight, seems like a dub

[craggy cove]

well a gpu of some sort then

[wheat torrent]

yes toyota is not owned by volkswagen

[shy olive]

What a surprise

[craggy cove]

how many watts is ur psu

[hard cedar]

Soo my CPU is fine right

[shy olive]

Toyota is owned by nature no?

[hard cedar]

750

[wheat torrent]

look at ram for example

[native path]

If I was in your position i’d get the GPU now and further down the line i’d look into a new CPU

[wheat torrent]

there a lot of ram company/brands

[hard cedar]

Alr

[shy olive]

Lets not look at ram

[craggy cove]

maybe? could also be ram, had artifact-ish things but it ended up being the ram

[wheat torrent]

but If im not mistaken only 2 companies actually make the ram chips

[craggy cove]

had to just reseat it tho

on a laptop

[hard cedar]

I tried and I'm sure it's the cpu

[wheat torrent]

Samsung (South Korea)
SK Hynix (South Korea)
Micron (USA)

[craggy cove]

display cable fully plugged in?

[shy olive]

Especially at pcpartpicker dude what even is YEYIAN

[hard cedar]

Yep

[craggy cove]

its called a cartel for a reason

[shy olive]

Its always the asians man

[wheat torrent]

samsung makes a looooot of stuff

[craggy cove]

wuh

[rigid fjord]

i would suggest an sn5000, but considering what he's willing to spend, it would be worth the extra to go for a 4tb drive, and have a smaller 240-500gb drive as well, using the smaller drive for his OS, main launchers and drivers, and the much larger drive for games and anything else stored on it like so https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WcYQFZ

[shy olive]

Maybe they even make bulletproof vests for the army with built in ads

[wheat torrent]

they make monitor panels, they make chips they make a shit ton

apple phones use samsung components

[craggy cove]

they already make artillery

[shy olive]

Aren’t they like the widely-used screen manufacturer or wtv for mobile?

[native path]

Yes

[shy olive]

Reminded me of that one fridge company making tanks and stuff for the military

[craggy cove]

general electric

[hard cedar]

LG quietly waiting

[rigid fjord]

that and LG

[wheat torrent]

samsung made tanks

[craggy cove]

for fridges and 30mm cannons for planes

[shy olive]

LG was my phone that i broke because i broke it

[craggy cove]

yeah thats how it works

[shy olive]

Tanks go boom

[hard cedar]

I'm using lg rn for my phone

[hardy mesa]

He has a 1TB external hard drive, so he could probably just have the main 4tb one

[wheat torrent]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K9_Thunder developed by ... including Samsung Aerospace Industries

[shy olive]

Nice

[craggy cove]

i have a lg phone but its fucked up because they used piss quality lead free solder

[shy olive]

Guys i have a secret

I actually make fighter jets

[wheat torrent]

so the answer to your question is no, new manufacturers won't just appear from no where

[fickle ivy]

27" 1440p has to be the sweet spot for monitors

[wheat torrent]

32" is pretty alright

I think bigger better

[shy olive]

Why not 50”

[hard cedar]

My phone has artifacting and it's brand new, even my older lg phone was like that brand new

[wheat torrent]

soon

[fickle ivy]

I like fitting 3 monitors on my desk

[wheat torrent]

I have 4 monitors, 32"

[fickle ivy]

Though Im gonna need a bigger desk now that I have a 27"

[rigid fjord]

you don't want to use an external drive for anything other than transfering stuff around, not for running anything off from

[fickle ivy]

I had 2 24"s and a 19" before

[wheat torrent]

I could definetly go for more than 32" no problem

[hardy mesa]

ok he says he thinks he need a 3tb ssd

[hard cedar]

Pffft, I had a 10" monitor

[shy olive]

I like how scientists are considering the idea of making wormholes one day but when someone asks them the most normal and technologically possible question ever they are like impossible no we can’t with this technology

[wheat torrent]

I want to replace my middle monitor with this one, Ultrawide but it matches my other 32" monitors, same height

[rigid fjord]

doesn't exist, only 128,240,256,480,512,525, 1tb,2tb,4tb+

[shy olive]

I made that with my cousin sammy, he was 3 when he made the blueprint btw

[hard cedar]

Nvme SSD? Or sata SSD?

[hardy mesa]

ok so ill tell him to just get the 4tb

[rigid fjord]

in both

[wheat torrent]

get 2tb and run in raid mode

[hard cedar]

Right

[rigid fjord]

no

[shy olive]

Get 2tb and download 1tb on google

Make sure its google

[hard cedar]

Download more ram

That helps

[hardy mesa]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HK4BNz

ok i think this looks good

[wheat torrent]

3.2TB

[shy olive]

Looking at this sends delay into my brain

[hard cedar]

That's external

[rigid fjord]

i'd still get a 500gb drive for boot

[shy olive]

[shy olive]

Just incase windows decides to suddenly use 500gb of storage to download additional apps am i right?

[hardy mesa]

ok i added it back in

[hard cedar]

Time to build a PC with a pentium 3

[rigid fjord]

this isn't a consumer drive, and it's not 3tb, that's 3.2tb and essentially a u.2 drive

[shy olive]

I had a pentium E5 something

[wheat torrent]

.

[shy olive]

It was decent

[rigid fjord]

no, so if windows desides to crap itself due to an update, you're not reinstalling everything

[hard cedar]

Better then my shit i7 8700 who decided to piss it's self today

[shy olive]

Oh yeah my dad made this when he was a newborn he actually was inspired by the idea of someone like him existing so he poof made it and was disappointed

[shy olive]

No by decent i mean it could only boot before shutting off

[hard cedar]

That's still better

[wheat torrent]

I should buy a 512gb nvme and swap my boot drive with my 1tb ssd

[shy olive]

Well my little sister made the cpu for me

[hard cedar]

My peice of shit won't turn on

[wheat torrent]

it's annoying using the OS nvme as active storage

[hard cedar]

Still better

[wheat torrent]

but I don't want to go through the process of reinstalling OS

[shy olive]

Good enough no?

[shy olive]

What OS

[wheat torrent]

is there no way to duplicate OS on another SSD? seamlessly?

[shy olive]

Personally i like tiny 11

[wheat torrent]

there has to be 🤔

[hard cedar]

My first intel cpu pisses it's self, I'm going back to amd

[wheat torrent]

window 11

[shy olive]

As far as im concerned there is yeah but my cousin sammy has the ways

[wheat torrent]

what are you saying

[shy olive]

But tiny

[wheat torrent]

do not use tiny11

[shy olive]

There are ways

[shy olive]

I mean im already using it

[dusk patio]

You can clone the drive ig

[wheat torrent]

Yes but will that recognize it as a OS drive

[rigid fjord]

there's cloning but people fuck that up so easily it's actually quicker to just install windows on the drive

[wheat torrent]

tuff

[shy olive]

Wait why shouldn’t i use tiny 11?

[wheat torrent]

I mean I could try it

and just open bios and try booting in the other drive

and if it doesn't work try again

if it boots once then it's good, it can't fail later?

[dusk patio]

depends how much stuff you're transfering and if it's going to a different PC or the same one

[wheat torrent]

It's just a matter of cloning it such that the boot loader recognizes it

copy pasting the files is definetly not the way though

I really doubt that will make a active boot OS

[golden sage]

Guys, am i able to clone my OS drive to a new nvme? Adata S40G 512gb gen3 SSD to Samsung 990 Pro gen 4 1TB

is there anything i need to watch out for

[dusk patio]

if the new drive is Samsung, I'd recommend the Samsung Magician tool to clone the drive

I've used it before and it's pretty simple and user-friendly

[rigid fjord]

nah, people fuck it up, and for the length of time it takes to clone a drive, it takes the same amount to install windows cleanly

[wheat torrent]

my problem is that I have a lot of configured softwares installed on the boot drive

would take me a few days to remember how to do everything from scratch

[dusk patio]

what doesn't take the same amount of time is reinstalling everything on the drive

like sure it's not the end of the world to transfer files and redownload games, but especially if your internet speed isn't good, downloading stuff can take forever

[golden sage]

my case it would be the same pc, just upgrading the OS drive so that i can format and push the current drive to my 2nd computer (that boy's running on an HDD!)

[limpid dune]

you can do it with a live linux distribution and gparted, which lets you copy and paste entire partitions, just copy the EFI partition and the boot

then you have to make the EFI partition point to the correct drive, on windows you can do this by booting into a recovery USB and using the BCDBOOT tool, it's a little sketchy though so be warned

[wheat torrent]

using a bootable OS is the way I would do it

Idk if it's even possible to clone while using the OS but that doesn't sound like a good idea to start with

[weak sleet]

Anyone know anything about weird audio issues on windows 11? Recently ive been having a lot of issues that include the audio sounding deepfried, audio just freezing completely, and the audio becoming like 7 seconds delayed. I have been "fixing" this by unplugging my audio interface adn replugging it in but it comes back after like 10 minutes. I have ran audio diagnostic and it has noticed nothign wrong. I have also tried to record the static/fry and it sounds completely normal in the recording. I have done all the windows updates except 25H2 (it literally wont let me download it for some reason). Ive also not noticed anything weird going on with my performance/ram/cpu/gpu while this happens. Any ideas are appreciated

[topaz shale]

3080ti + 5800x3d should be fine on a 750w right? i think i need to swap psus in my pc and server soon

[native path]

If you’ve already built it, i’d stick with the 750w. If it’s a new build i’m going with a 850

[native path]

Could it be an issue with the interface? I’d try any other audio peripheral and see if it’s better

[topaz shale]

i have both rn. rm750e and a rm850x. i think ill need the 850 for the new drives im adding soon

[native path]

Whichever build has the 3080 i’d put the 850, what’s your server looking like?

[topaz shale]

850x is in the pc currently, 750e is in server. i think i will be swapping them for the better 12v rail on my hdds

[topaz shale]

the server has a 5600x and a 1060 3gb. its about to have 10 hdds, 8 of which are sas

[native path]

Oh

[topaz shale]

oh

[native path]

Honestly I think a 750e is more than enough for that

Your computer probably takes up 300W itself, accounting for drives (350W max ? i dunno) you should be good

[topaz shale]

im just worried about startup. once the server is running they switch to 3v. but its a lot of stress on the 12v rail when 10 drive are simultaneously spinning up

maybe someone who knows psus better could correct me but i think thats about right

[native path]

Are you using an HBA? You could look into staggered spin ups

[topaz shale]

yeah i will be using an hba

[native path]

For sure i’d look into staggered spin ups, name’s kinda self explanatory

[topaz shale]

sounds like i have some learning to do

[azure topaz]

the 12v rail should be able to handle the entire units rating...

[topaz shale]

on 750e?

[azure topaz]

mf yes on any good power supply

wow look at that the 12v rail is rated for 750w

[topaz shale]

okay

[steel umbra]

rm750e has an e in it’s name which means explode

[topaz shale]

yeah thats what i was afraid of

[steel umbra]

or more boringly just economy version of rm750

[azure topaz]

coulda googled it

[topaz shale]

so 63 is the limit

[azure topaz]

no its probably morre like 68

[steel umbra]

mor like 70

[azure topaz]

OCP is usually like 130% or something

[steel umbra]

though prolonged load at over spec is prob not good

[azure topaz]

yeah nah

but a couple percent over who cares

if the psu cant handle a couple percent over it couldnt handle it at spec lol

[steel umbra]

101% load and epxlode

💥

[azure topaz]

need a psu that does that

[steel umbra]

less talkz about seasoning psus exploding when you just put 230v and switch it on

hehehe

[azure topaz]

sounds like seasonic

give me 3 s12iii

[steel umbra]

da old’ish focus gx

[azure topaz]

loool

micron is leaving d5/d4 to make more space for hynix d5

[steel umbra]

focus fx trip ocp with gpus that have hugh transients ✅
focus gx explode when 230v 1 in 10 chance kinder surprise ✅

[azure topaz]

i like this its like roulette

[steel umbra]

there is even a bigger chance it trips your breaker/s

[azure topaz]

lol

[steel umbra]

who loves har har har feddy

@azure topaz the lian li sp850 only catches fire and melts a certain capacitor nothing to worry abt

complies with european safety certs ✅

[azure topaz]

clearly safe give me 100 of them for the next line of prebuilts

[steel umbra]

my focus gx strix 650w tripped breakers

i don’t even recall that happening with any other psu i’ve had

and i’m not the only one

i’ve also had gigabyte p750gm 2020.05

that one didn’t blow up :c

big sadge

[azure topaz]

i thought these units were chill until you ocped them

[steel umbra]

yee then there was i recall a 50% chance it blows in your face

[azure topaz]

simply dont trigger ocp

[steel umbra]

but i believe seasoning blowing up by just powering it >1 in 10 is more fun

but it dose not kil components :c

[azure topaz]

sad

[steel umbra]

i’m a cwt shill now

their psu platforms da based (not all tho)

[shy arch]

I like triple fan bc it looks way cooler and higher end than a dual fan card

[steel umbra]

i also wanted to buy cwt stock and becom a greedy shareholder but i thought they were a bit too overpriced rn

[steel umbra]

that gpu would be fine off a single fan design

[shy arch]

Yeah unless you're overclocking or mining

[steel umbra]

nop, still good enough

mining is actually less intensive, most of it just consumer vram

[shy arch]

well what's the fun in 1 fan

[golden sage]

i am so confused, whats with people saying the samsung 990 pro is gen 5? the website says gen 4

[steel umbra]

cheap

[shy arch]

fair

[steel umbra]

smol

[south arrow]

Its pcie 4

[steel umbra]

says 4.0

[golden sage]

what is this guy smoking

[steel umbra]

(correct me if i’m wrong)

does that include the full comment or the second part

[shy arch]

Speaking of SSD's anyone got any clue why an outdated samsung 970 evo 500gb is selling for $300 on amazon?

[steel umbra]

normal

outliers happen

[shy arch]

damn

i think i picked it up for like $30

[mint umbra]

Feels like I prob won't be buying a new rig for a long time

[steel umbra]

it’s running out bc it’s probably no longer manufactured

[golden sage]

yeah imma just get a 990 pro 1tb and call it a day

[mint umbra]

Due to market of PC parts

Feels like I'm being priced out of this hobby

[shy arch]

Makes sense but honestly who would buy it for that much when you can get a newer, faster ssd for way cheaper?

[azure topaz]

the 9100 pro is 5x2 or 4x4

which is what hes mistaking the 990 pro with

nothing else guy isnt stupid just didnt remember

[mint umbra]

Cuz like theres ram companies leaving consumer space so feel like we are going to have high prices for quite a long time

[golden sage]

ahh i see, alright

[azure topaz]

you have the opposite affect to this in mind

[mint umbra]

And soon feel like the memory shortages will affect you prices

[azure topaz]

micron leaving the consumer ram space is making more space for hynix to make more ram

[mint umbra]

GPU*

[steel umbra]

less competition aaa!!!!!!!

[azure topaz]

hynix is ramping d5 prod apparently by 8x sometime in 2026

micron d5 wasnt competing with a wet paper bag

[sinful cobalt]

ig hynix is redeemable

[azure topaz]

micron d5 couldnt compete with micron d4 bro

[sinful cobalt]

samsung and micron are just diabolical tbh

[azure topaz]

ram prices will not get cheaper

[mint umbra]

Read article ram prices won't normalize till like 2029

[azure topaz]

you are absolutely correct

[steel umbra]

micron D as of ddr5 wasn’t that bad just weird

odd behaving when i was overclockin i mean overcooking it

[sinful cobalt]

the time ddr5 stabilises is probably the release of ddr6

[shy arch]

time to salvage diabolical amounts of ram from old servers

[azure topaz]

d4 ecc goes for good pricing rn

[mint umbra]

Ddr6 prob will be expensive af

[azure topaz]

at least good meaning you activelyt have 200 sticks of it ready to sell

[mint umbra]

Like ddr5 in release

[south arrow]

Should be 5.0×4 right?

[azure topaz]

please go back and look at every ddr memory generation price trend

im serious

[mint umbra]

I mean ddr5 was expensive when it first came out

[ivory mountain]

no more shitcron

[azure topaz]

every fucking generation of ram was extremely expensive when it came out

[ivory mountain]

the world is healing

[azure topaz]

DDR4, DDR3, fucking DDR2

[mint umbra]

I wouldn't call this healing

[azure topaz]

this is a normal thing and if you havent figured that out 5 generations in you do not have good pattern recognition

[sinful cobalt]

what world is healing
Only one shit organization out of our range

[ivory mountain]

ddr2 is older than me and ddr3 came out when i was 8 months old

[mint umbra]

Since PC prices are going to be unaffordable for many ppl

[azure topaz]

DDR5 upon release was slower and more expensive than high-end DDR4

[steel umbra]

bor is 4 years old

[ivory mountain]

wait no ddr3 is a year older than me

[azure topaz]

DDR4 upon releasew as slower and more epxensive than high end ddr3

and so on

[sinful cobalt]

flops I lowkey might go buy RAM because of FOMO

[ivory mountain]

june 2007 for ddr3 i was born in june 2008 🥀

[azure topaz]

there was DDR4 kits that were literally 1,000+ dollars

[sinful cobalt]

$300 SGD for 32g A die

if it doesnt change price with my voucher hax

[steel umbra]

womp womp

[azure topaz]

300sgd to usd

[mint umbra]

Idk I don't see ai slowing down so they will just keep buying all the memory

[clever junco]

....

[sinful cobalt]

$230

[steel umbra]

a loss for them

[ivory mountain]

i wonder how much this will get up to

[clever junco]

worst solution to memory leaks ive ever seen 😭

[azure topaz]

no but "predicting" that net gen is going to be more expensive than the last gen is like

saying that a 5090 is going to be faster than a 4090

[shy arch]

No way in hell that's gon sell for $70

[ivory mountain]

i got a dm offer for 135 lmao

[mint umbra]

I just don't see it getting better unless ai industry blows up

[merry nest]

where are we at on ddr4 prices

[steel umbra]

thin bandaid

[shy arch]

Heh someone's desperate

[azure topaz]

buy used, 32GB kits worth buying used are about 90$

[merry nest]

i got 16gb already, dont see a need to upgrade to 32gb yet

[ivory mountain]

i gave away a 32gb kit of ddr4 in a server and i regret it lowkey 💀

[clever junco]

it's more like putting a new bandaid on every few hours 😭

[azure topaz]

then why wonder lol

[mint umbra]

If you just gaming or something don't need 32

16 is enough

[steel umbra]

190

[azure topaz]

you probably want 32 even if youre just gaming

[ivory mountain]

not really, its hynix a die gskill its still really solid

[ivory mountain]

shit i hope so 🤣

[merry nest]

curiosity, since it seems that its mostyl ddr5 thats affected

[gusty wagon]

Is the 11070XT a good upgrade?

[azure topaz]

its all ram

DDR4 has doubled in price even used

[clever junco]

if you only want your game open then sure