tech-chat-1

[indigo lintel]

u gonna need a new gpu very soon

[deft widget]

no

[wheat torrent]

That CPU though

[cosmic stratus]

My next system will probably only have 4 slots...

[deft widget]

this gpu is only i can buy

[cosmic stratus]

4 x8gb is literally sub 200 bucks

Rn

[grizzled frost]

okay? that's how all modern platforms are, and you should only be filling half the slots

[cold skiff]

If CAMM2 is meant to be so good why hasn’t the AI revolution adopted it?

[native path]

😭

[grizzled frost]

1dpc the best

[deft widget]

is rtx 5070 ti worth 330$

[cosmic stratus]

Yea a useless detail to bring up, nvm

[wheat torrent]

His CPU is 8 generations old gg

[native path]

Like 2.5x more yeah

[deft widget]

investment to ram

[left trellis]

is a sub 300 usd 14900k goated

for a ddr4 editing build

[native path]

God I hate this market

[cold skiff]

It’s not goated as it’s probably gonna die

[deft widget]

https://tenor.com/view/investment-services-financial-deal-meeting-gif-17145532

[wheat torrent]

Ddr6 would release in sync with other components

[cold skiff]

But it’s a good deal

[deft widget]

ram

[wheat torrent]

You can't release ddr6 without motherboards to support it

[indigo lintel]

i was running a 4790k 10 montsh ago

[grizzled frost]

doesn’t mean it’s a good idea

[wheat torrent]

Without cpus to support it

[cold skiff]

CAMM2 v ddr6 for ai revolution would separate the markets

[indigo lintel]

Oh no that cpu was great for being that old

[wheat torrent]

Its not just push release button

[cosmic stratus]

But but phones already use ddrx7!!

[cold skiff]

But that doesn’t make money

[wheat torrent]

Wdym

[grizzled frost]

for being that old, yes, but doesn’t make it good

[wheat torrent]

The spec is not finished yet

[cold skiff]

Consumer platforms using 1 type, AI servers using the other

[wheat torrent]

The ram sticks are not manufactured yet

[grizzled frost]

won’t alleviate any of the ram issues

[cold skiff]

Yes… I’m forward thinking

[wheat torrent]

Servers will still use dim slots

Only consumer will change to camm2

[grizzled frost]

making the sticks themselves isn’t the problem, it’s producing the ram dies

[cold skiff]

The cost of wafers is still an issue but supply of both would ease the markets

[cosmic stratus]

I would much rather run an old xeon e5 XXXX v3+ system they're generally more cost effective and flexible

[deft widget]

read this:

[grizzled frost]

live laugh love E5 2690v4

[wheat torrent]

For the beginning

[indigo lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[cosmic stratus]

[grizzled frost]

camm2 is less dense as far as fitting it into a server goes

[cosmic stratus]

My system will rock a fancy fat multicore xeon once I upgrade platforms

[wheat torrent]

Yep

[cosmic idol]

Have no idea what that chip is but I agree

[wheat torrent]

That's why I'm saying for the time being dim will still be used in servers

[grizzled frost]

it’s the e5 2690v4

[wheat torrent]

Though I heard some workstation mobos will have stacked camm2?

[cosmic idol]

Amazing

[grizzled frost]

i don’t see camm ever being used in servers

the workstation philosophy is wildly different to servers

[cosmic stratus]

Do servers really need fast memory like that

[grizzled frost]

Yes, yes they do

[wheat torrent]

Idk how I feel about losing the dim modularity also

It makes upgrading harder

Can't no longer do an incremental upgrade

[cosmic stratus]

So what makes it differ

The only reason to use camm that I can see is low latency and speed

[grizzled frost]

workstations you just want as much horsepower as possible, servers you want as much power density as possible

[wheat torrent]

Camm2 is only one module of ram

Servers you do 8 modules or more

[cosmic stratus]

So camm cant meet density requirements

Got it

[grizzled frost]

correct

[wheat torrent]

Camm2 takes the space of 3 dim slots

Unless you stack them but I didn't see that done yet

[grizzled frost]

stacking is a nightmare because it uses a whole pad of connectors

[cosmic stratus]

Too bad stacking them will probably create more latency than regular sodimm

Or equivalent latency

[grizzled frost]

vs a single slot on the side like sodimm

[grizzled frost]

latency isn’t really the concern, 1-2mm of extra copper is nothing

[wheat torrent]

Could you put camm2 on the back of the motherboard

[cosmic stratus]

Oh

[grizzled frost]

nightmare for servicing

[wheat torrent]

Imagine what micro PC builds you could do

[wheat torrent]

Brother I don't get why people build in very small cases

You're literally handicapping your build

[cosmic stratus]

Density

[wheat torrent]

Yet so many people do it

[cosmic stratus]

If ur talking about servers

[wheat torrent]

No consumer PCs

[cosmic stratus]

Same argument really, not Serviceable

[wheat torrent]

Yes but what I'm saying is a lot of people do it

[cold skiff]

I’m thinking of itx for my next build. It’s space saving and I don’t need the most amount of power or performance

[cosmic stratus]

I already hate having to take a motherboard out just to access heatsink in a laptop for example

Having an equivalent issue on desktop is beyond me

[wheat torrent]

I hate even having a case

[cold skiff]

A desk “case” would be ideal for me

[wheat torrent]

Cant imagine using a case that's 2 times smaller than it should

[cold skiff]

Just more expensive or a pain to create

[hallow jasper]

Who needs a case

[cosmic stratus]

Open air asthetic final boss

[cold skiff]

One blow and it all falls down

[cold skiff]

One fart could be fatal

[cosmic stratus]

Too bad ts will fall apart in my backpack

[slender parcel]

Yo difference between storage and ram?

[cold skiff]

This is rage bait

[slender parcel]

Bro

[wheat torrent]

Storage saves data, ram uses data temporarily

[cosmic stratus]

One is insanely faster and has smaller capacity for temporary data

[wheat torrent]

This I like ^

[cold skiff]

Those VRMs look very under cooked

[slender parcel]

Is storage like a hard drive

[cosmic stratus]

The other is much slower for long term memory and is has much more capacity

[wheat torrent]

Look at ram

[little vigil]

guys im getting a 3070ti for free upgrading from 3060

[wheat torrent]

Got rid of dim only to add a cooler on top of the RAM

[cold skiff]

I like this. I have one question though in the AIO. Shouldn’t you flip the fans to the other side?

[cosmic stratus]

Yep, storage comes in many forms. Hard drive, solid state drive, Emmc, sd cards and usb drives

[wheat torrent]

Flash storage, ssd, dvd, CD, HDD

Etc

[little vigil]

im swapping with my uncle

[frigid topaz]

Finally got myself a g29 racing wheel, hopefully its not terrible

[cosmic stratus]

Nvme and m.2 drives they're both the same in form factor but yea

[indigo lintel]

pretty old by now
But still holds up, for its price

[hallow jasper]

Should? at least in this way, you can clear the rad easier

[frigid topaz]

Well its cheap and better than other wheels I've seen

[hallow jasper]

Not necessarily. NVMe is a protocol, M.2 is a form factor. NVMe drives are available in 2.5 and larger

[cosmic stratus]

That open air frame costs more than my entire build

[frigid topaz]

I paid 160€ with shifter

[cold skiff]

It looks as though pulling air through to an open area as opposed to pushing from a 70% area would be better cooling

[iron moth]

I just called the seller actually , I just found out that its already finished and being shipped tomorrow! So i couldnt have changed it anyway, but its good news anyways

[cosmic stratus]

Ohhh

[native path]

Oh sick, how soon does it get to you?

[indigo lintel]

Oh sure thing
I still have my g27 and im happy with it
It was pretty darn revolutionary when it first released in 2009 or whateber

[wheat torrent]

Ultra core 2 supports camm2?

[cold skiff]

It supports downloaded ram also

[cosmic stratus]

Swap memory

[wheat torrent]

Interesting intel ahead again with ram support

[frigid topaz]

My buddy says the g29 feels pretty realistic

[cold skiff]

They have to be good at something

[cosmic stratus]

And still behind in performance

[wheat torrent]

I am unsure if am6 will support both ddr5 and ddr6

[iron moth]

Itll be shipped tomorrow or the day after and theyre technically only an hour away from me. But since its only insured via DHL itll be another day for that, otherwise id have picked it up myself. 😊

[hallow jasper]

enterprise 2.5-3.5" drives connect over U.2 but speak NVMe

[cold skiff]

Not true. A lot of productivity intel is ahead

[wheat torrent]

I doubt

[indigo lintel]

My only complaint is that the wheels are a lil small, otherwise its alright

[native path]

Dang, that’s still shorter than a week though. Enjoy!

[indigo lintel]

Compared to a higher end fanatec or thrustmaster tho, meh

[cosmic stratus]

Huh I thought amds productivity chips were still beating them in most situations

[cold skiff]

No

[indigo lintel]

in gaming, yes

especially with the x3d chips

[cosmic stratus]

Ofc

[iron moth]

Thanks! I will! I cant wait, im certain itll be a huge update compared to what my old PC is.

[frigid topaz]

Yeah cant be bigger cause of the ffb

[indigo lintel]

yeah

[cold skiff]

The ram speed intel can use is a major factor in improving productivity performance

[indigo lintel]

the sudden combustion of the 13th and 14th gen is also pretty cool, makes for a nice bondfire

[rough salmon]

cant wait to build a pc in 4 years (ram situation)

[indigo lintel]

i feel sorry for u lol

[frigid topaz]

My buddy has been driving for 3 years and says using the g29 is hard in racing games compared to irl

[rough salmon]

even steam machine will likely cost like 1.2k because of the ram prices

[indigo lintel]

welp, irl you feel what the car is doing
You kinda lose that in a gaming chair

[cosmic stratus]

U sure?? Unless we arnt talking about the same cpu; In most of these tests im seeing its either equivalent or slower so...

[shy olive]

Why are ram so expensive now

[cosmic stratus]

Its either data centers are eating up production or ram production is staying the same and only going up in price to make more money instead of meeting demands

[native path]

TLDR OpenAI wants it more than you

[rough salmon]

i think its cuz of ai

[little vigil]

is a 3070ti a good upgrade from the 3060?

[native path]

and they have more money than you so they win

[indigo lintel]

shortage

[shy olive]

Oh cant terrorists focus on them and not us?

[native path]

Well I wouldn’t say that

[shy olive]

Yeah i’d guess its mean

And plus wouldn’t that just get rid of all the ram sticks?

[indigo lintel]

No i like your wya of thinking

[native path]

It’s an upgrade yes, but not worth it honestly, not that big of a jump but you’re still paying for a GPU

[indigo lintel]

well at least we would get the new ones for a bette rprice

[little vigil]

well im getting for free/swap woth my unc but i was consodering the vram

[native path]

If it’s free then why not, i’d do it yeah

[shy olive]

Whats the iphone jailbreak equivalent to pc’s

[frigid topaz]

True

[cosmic stratus]

Im being vague here but ram chip manufacturers only make about 10% profit off of big companies. And 70% of their sales are commercial while 30% is consumer.. most of their profit comes from us; I think was the argument I read in a reddit post r/pcmasterace 😭

[native path]

Macs (iphones) -> Linux (jailbroken iphone) probably

[frigid topaz]

First mod i do is remove the rubber block

From brake

[shy olive]

Whats linux

[indigo lintel]

vram is same, isnt it?

[shy olive]

Oh is that an os?

[indigo lintel]

yessss

[little vigil]

no 3070ti is 8gb

[native path]

I believe there’s a 12GB 3060 edition, or it may be a 3060TI. I dunno

[native path]

Yes

[little vigil]

but i game at 1080p so idk if o need 12

[native path]

Do you use VR?

[little vigil]

regular 3060 is 12gb 3060ti is 8gb

[indigo lintel]

Ooooh there are 2 versions of 3060, you got the 6gb version?

[little vigil]

yea but the og rift

[native path]

Honestly i’m not the right person to ask regarding VRAM I have almost no clue what i’m talking about

[little vigil]

no i got 12gb

[indigo lintel]

huh

[native path]

VRAM would be a factor for VR from what I’ve heard

[little vigil]

i dont really play often and the cv1s res is like really low

[indigo lintel]

No idea there was a 12GB 3060, bu ti wouldn't wanna lose that vram

[native path]

I’d just go for the 3070ti then, that’s the GPU I have and I have no complaints

[little vigil]

idk why the 3060 has 12 but other gpus have like 8 or 10 with the 3080

[native path]

It was an AWESOME deal at the time

[frigid blade]

The GeForce Now clone begins

[indigo lintel]

is the 3070ti 8gb?

[little vigil]

yes but thats plenty for me

ive been playing god of war 4 and 5 and been sufferong like lower fps and i dont wanna sacrifice settings

[cosmic stratus]

Unless the 3060 12gb is beating the 3070ti from having more vram alone, this shouldnt be the determining factor here

[native path]

Get the 3070ti

[grizzled frost]

in what way?

[little vigil]

its not, the 3070ti is wuite a bit better since i occasionly play on his pc

[grizzled frost]

it fits what i want, and performs identically to a system with the same parts but in a larger chassis

[cosmic stratus]

Welp, u know what do then

[abstract wigeon]

is there a better budget rgb cooler than the thermalright phantom spirit evo? its a christmas gift not for me so i dont care about every tiny detail

[indigo lintel]

Well the 3070ti is faster*, even tho it doesnt have more than 8gb ram. Idk if it's a difference big enough to even care tho

[little vigil]

at 1080p no

[hallow jasper]

guy mentioned in TC2 that the 3070Ti is free...

so this isn't even really a question

[cosmic stratus]

Its not. Not even at higher resolution.

[indigo lintel]

eh what the hell swap it with him

[native path]

It's not WAY faster, it's definitely faster

[cosmic stratus]

Objectively

[native path]

Exacltly my point, it's free, it fits your needs, it's an upgrade, DO IT

[gloomy isle]

why cant we make motherboards compatible with ddr4 and ddr5 like how some intel cpus support ddr4 and ddr5

[indigo lintel]

huh

[little vigil]

ill do it

[hallow jasper]

its a different physical pinout

[gloomy isle]

2 ram slots for ddr4 and 2 for ddr5 instead of 4 ddr4/5

[native path]

Different socket types

[indigo lintel]

that's just expensive

[hallow jasper]

also this argument was ok in 2020 but today its irrelevant. ddr4 is dead and gone

[little vigil]

i might be getting a nicer monitor soon too

[cosmic stratus]

Oh hell naw

[native path]

I hope you're not the engineer for my next motherboard

[indigo lintel]

let's throw in ddr3 while were at it

[gloomy isle]

why is everyone hating on it bruh

[little vigil]

my old pc like 5 months ago was a 15 yr old xeon x5670 at 4.5 ghz and ram runnong at like 1416

1416mt/s

[cosmic stratus]

The compensation in performance in making compatibility for that alone wouldn't make that worth it in the slightest

[indigo lintel]

coz its stoopid

[native path]

I just don't see why we aren't including DDR2

[indigo lintel]

can we get floppy drives

[hallow jasper]

Because its a bad idea for reasons you're not aware of, notably complexity and latency sensitivity

[little vigil]

lets just include ddr

[native path]

the game?

[little vigil]

ddr

[indigo lintel]

how about this: we remove the ram completely

[little vigil]

its the first uhh

double data rate

[native path]

https://tenor.com/view/dongmin-pump-it-up-ddr-arcade-dance-gif-12350500700236251141

[cosmic stratus]

Yes yes lets put hbm3 on cpus

Fuck cache

[gloomy isle]

hear me out: a motherboard with 4 ram slots, 2 for ddr4, 2 for ddr5. when you put one stick in any slot, it deactivates the other slots (ddr5 stick turns off ddr4 slots) and only keeps the 2 slots that you plugged the ram in

[little vigil]

rate the setup bots

this was my old beastp

[native path]

I will not be hearing this out

[hallow jasper]

And this will be sold to who, exactly.

[gloomy isle]

so you cant have ddr4 and ddr5 work in the same system, but you can have one without the other

[cosmic stratus]

An intel stock cooler thats actually tuff

[tulip sparrow]

https://www.androidauthority.com/anbernic-rg-477v-announced-3621250/

[grizzled frost]

correct, but that only works on intel, and only the 12th-14th gen

[little vigil]

its a rare server one

[gloomy isle]

idk man i just woke up and its an idea

[native path]

People with 2x16 DDR5 and 2x16 DDR4, duh

[little vigil]

heres my old sleeper

[gloomy isle]

probably people who want to escape the abysmall ddr5 prices without changing motherboards i guess

[hallow jasper]

So you didn't really think too deeply into it. Well we are (because this isn't a new breakthrough) so you shouldn't be concerned when people "hate" on it, as you said.

[cosmic stratus]

Imagine filling all of those slots.. you would literally be limited to the performance of the slowest gen slot at full capacity... fuck naww

USELESS

[little vigil]

i5 13400f 32gb 3200 and rtx 3060

[native path]

Well no just fix it so it's at max capacity

[frigid blade]

is that mobo in upside down?

[native path]

Indeed

[little vigil]

yes, case design

[native path]

You use the optical drive?

[gloomy isle]

you can NOT use ddr4 and ddr5, if you plug in ddr5 sticks first it will deactivate the ddr4 slots and vice versa

[abstract wigeon]

https://amzn.eu/d/1bSMak8
any thoughts?

[gloomy isle]

that is what i mean

[grizzled frost]

okay but what's the benefit?

[little vigil]

ofc

[grizzled frost]

you'd have to pick ddr4/5 when you buy the parts for the Pc anyways

[abstract wigeon]

why would you want this

[gloomy isle]

ddr4 is cheaper than ddr5 due to ramaggeddon

[grizzled frost]

plus you'd have to have some sort of controller on the motherboard that can do both

[little vigil]

use to flash dvds to play on my pa3

[native path]

DDR4 is still expensive

[cosmic stratus]

Unless you can use all gens at each of their maximum speed individually at full capacity. Nah

[grizzled frost]

okay? ddr4 motherboards exist

[abstract wigeon]

then just get a ddr4 board

[native path]

Send this guy to #public-chat

[little vigil]

old ahh setup

[abstract wigeon]

a board that supports both would be more expensive than just getting ddr5

[native path]

Pepsi Max

[little vigil]

yes

[grizzled frost]

the added complexity would skyrocket the price

[indigo lintel]

Omg i miss those cans

We only have the slim ones

[cosmic stratus]

Me when I see sky blue pcie slots

[ebon marlin]

There's an unopened box of an Intel Compute Stick for 50€ with an intel core m3, 4gb ddr3 and 64gb of storage I'm tempted to get it but realistically what can I even do with this

[plain cypress]

Put it on a shelf

[indigo lintel]

Soumalaianen

Perkele vittu

[little vigil]

pcie2 lmao

[ebon marlin]

Bing chilling

[little vigil]

its even got pci non e lol

[ebon marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/revengeance-jetstream-sam-thinking-conversation-amazing-gif-25368179

[abstract wigeon]

shove linux in it and shove it in a tv for media/game streaming

[hallow jasper]

DDR5 was $100 for a solid 32GB kit a few months ago. DDR4 is/was dead and burried.

Now you want a new board designed just for chips that still have DDR4 controllers (mind you) and the costs for that RnD, plus manufacturing just so people can buy only slightly cheaper and considerably slower RAM?

But also no AMD users at all.

[cosmic stratus]

Im pretty sure a cheap i3 6100u laptop is faster for the same purposes and price.. its is nothing but a collectors item atp

[native path]

No i'm sure he also wants every single AMD platform to work on the same motherboard

[hallow jasper]

this is a winning plan, take it to the board

[native path]

It's genius actually

[ebon marlin]

Won't be great for streaming as no native ethernet support so wifi only and it supports wifi 4 and bt 4.2 lmao

[plain cypress]

You've heard of Elf on the Shelf
Get ready for Compute Stick on the Brick

[hallow jasper]

I think he just didn't think past the first 30seconds of this plan

[grizzled frost]

30 seconds is generous

[cosmic stratus]

[indigo lintel]

Free parts come get

[cosmic stratus]

Free boxes

[native path]

He had a eureka moment and it gave me a good laugh, I'll take it

[indigo lintel]

Yea

[native path]

I'll take the free guitar

[cosmic stratus]

Everything in this picture is free btw

You cant go back on this btw

[indigo lintel]

U get the yellow les paul

[little vigil]

this is my old server, each cpu has 4gb ram and 2c 2t each. WHAT A MACHINE

[indigo lintel]

If u fix the string on my other lels paul

[hallow jasper]

i'll take the speakers

[indigo lintel]

Nice heatsinks, wanna f-

[cosmic stratus]

Is that a dell precision

[little vigil]

dell poweredge t410

t610 my badp

[cosmic stratus]

Mm nice

[sinful cobalt]

Lets get you your meds

[abstract wigeon]

oh damn sounds arse

[little vigil]

lga 1366 ordered 2 10 dollar x5670s for that 12c 24t

[abstract wigeon]

i foolishly assumed it would have gigabit ethernet

[little vigil]

but then refunded and binned it

[cosmic stratus]

Omg no

[little vigil]

board died before i even put the new cpus in

[cosmic stratus]

A chromecast stick is better than ts

😭

[little vigil]

free r7 3700x and 2060s 3060 equivalent i got for free is now my ai server

[cosmic stratus]

I might build a dual cpu dell precision t7820 later as a minecraft server

[plain cypress]

Could turn it into a home for rodents

[little vigil]

good use for it lol

[plain cypress]

Old ventus

[plain cypress]

What the actual fuck
How do you take a picture that blurry and go "yeah this is it, I'm gonna post that"

[tulip sparrow]

I switched my old i5 3570k 970 system out with a 3700x and 2060 Super system and have upgraded both to a 5800x3D and a 3070 Ti so I feel you on the power of that system

[ebon marlin]

I have this for a Minecraft server has a i5 7500T with 16gb ddr4 and so far it has ran multiple different modpacks with multiple rendering bunch of chunks with 16 render distance with no slowdown

[little vigil]

well that is the only photo i had

as im in the middle of the ocean so yeh sorry

[native path]

My proxmox is running with an i7-7700k and I believe 24G allocated to my VM hosting 2 minecraft servers, a sports pickems discord bot and a website for said bot

[ebon marlin]

Yum

[little vigil]

i thought i7 7th gens had 12t 6c

[cosmic stratus]

How the fuck

[native path]

That's whats being allocated to my ubuntu vm

[cosmic stratus]

My 1680v3 at 4.3ghz cant even handle vanilla with 3 people

And it has single core performance FAR better than the 7500T

[ebon marlin]

Single core performance is very important for server hosting

[cosmic stratus]

[ebon marlin]

Oh

[little vigil]

@plain cypress

better pic for ya

[ebon marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1363324764747464836/1438648807423479838/74b.gif

I'm running modpacks like Society Sunlit Valley, Prominence 2 and currently trying to get ATM10 to work but fucking NeoForge bullshit can't get it to install on my server

[cosmic stratus]

What optimization mod is allowing you to pull such black magic

[ebon marlin]

I'm not using any optimization mods

[cosmic stratus]

[ebon marlin]

Just raw serverpack

[cosmic stratus]

Actually what the genuine fuck am I missing!!???😭

[cosmic stratus]

How many ppl on it

[little vigil]

a million

[plain cypress]

Damn I've been running my Skylake system for 10 years now

[ebon marlin]

2-3 but most of the time it's just 2 of us

[cosmic stratus]

My chunk gen slows way down for 3 ppl

And I have 8 cores faster than yours

This is flying around with an elytra

No even just regular creative flying

[ebon marlin]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G4jM8s3XkAAX3db.gif

[ebon marlin]

Yummy

[little vigil]

pure power

[ebon marlin]

The cpu that the 9800x3d fears the most

[native path]

ATM10 is such a pain, I couldn't get it to run on my computer

[little vigil]

lol

[cosmic stratus]

Did you guys use courseforge

[native path]

Yes

[cosmic stratus]

Huh

[ebon marlin]

I just keep getting bunch of errors during the server installation because of NeoForge

[native path]

Don't remember the exact error but it had trouble reading multiple configs or something when trying to boot up

[cosmic stratus]

Does it still launch

[ebon marlin]

Crashes during installation

[native path]

oh now the piece of shit turns on

[native path]

Is this pterodactyl?

[ebon marlin]

Pelican panel

[native path]

Ahh

[ebon marlin]

Fork of pterodactyl

[little vigil]

ptero panel fuckin sucks

[native path]

I've been meaning to put my services up on pterodactyl, never got into it

[ebon marlin]

I think the wings log quality is fucked up

[little vigil]

pelican is so much betting

[ebon marlin]

Pterodactyl sucks

[native path]

I have genuinely been running these servers like this

[native path]

NEVERMIND

[valid laurel]

The only thing that’s deterring me from it, is I’m looking for a non flashy looking case, looking for a simple look, not a lot of rgb, only want like 3 rgb fans on the front

[ebon marlin]

Is this ssh or what are you using

[native path]

Proxmox console

[little vigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1421535025089745078/1422114669878841404/togif.gif

[indigo lintel]

u could turn off the rgb hehe

[indigo lintel]

gay

[little vigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1443303135777919147/1443318244965355531/togif.gif

[valid laurel]

I mean even without the case I’m just not a big fan of fish tank cases

[native path]

If i'm really doing work on it i'm switching over to the SPICE console just cause it's a lot smoother and I can copy & paste into that console

[ebon marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/kiryu-kiryu-kazuma-yakuza-yakuza-0-ryu-ga-gotoku-gif-13380491363432120283

[native path]

Quit judging 😭

[native path]

It works perfect for me, I don't edit the servers much at all I just boot them up with my script

It's not ideal and I could probably do better, but it doesn't bother me

[sinful terrace]

is it possible to use a ryzen 9 5900x (5950x too idc) with a 5060TI 16gb? Going to microcenter tn and they have one for 400$.

[tulip sparrow]

https://www.androidauthority.com/ayaneo-pocket-air-mini-indiegogo-delay-3620896/

[ornate harbor]

That looks like a real man cave right there

[sinful terrace]

i have a 5600x with a 2060 6gb. Definitely need the upgrade

[plain cypress]

Gpu first

[ornate harbor]

Depends on the resolution, what do you play at

[plain cypress]

If you're thinking about upgrading, right now is looking to be the best time to buy a gpu

Everything but 5090 is at or below MSRP iirc

[sinful terrace]

I mainly do LLM stuff, and play a little minecraft here and there.

gaming is not the focus here

[plain cypress]

NVM you should throw away the whole pc

[ornate harbor]

Radeon instinct MI50 32GB HDM2, you can get it used for 200-250€

[sinful terrace]

sell it and get a new one with ddr5 and am5?

[sinful terrace]

sexy

but i work with cuda, so i need an nvidia card

[ornate harbor]

ig i wanted to buy one too but my PSU wouldnt handle it

[plain cypress]

5060ti 16gb, 5070ti
Depends on your budget

[hallow jasper]

its an EoL card from 2018, not sexy

[ornate harbor]

Depending on the LLms, 16GB can get tight

[sinful terrace]

16gb is really tight

[plain cypress]

3090

[sinful terrace]

i would need to offload to system memory

[ornate harbor]

How many parameters do you run

[sinful terrace]

im using a 14b model rn for coding purposes but I want something larger like 70b since I like the local environment

Qwen3-Coder is addictive

[ornate harbor]

You are running... a 14B modell on a 6GB GPU...?

[sinful terrace]

offloading to memory

i have 64gb of system memory rn

[native path]

billion percent yes

[ornate harbor]

Dang like the only thing that runs good on my card is a 8B Q5KM on 32k context

[plain cypress]

Words

You should get project battlematrix

[ornate harbor]

Whats that

[plain cypress]

Up to quad dual b60 cards from intel

4x B60 duals (2x 24gb each)

[ornate harbor]

Thats hella expensive

[sinful terrace]

32k context is really good. Try memory offloading (or even NVMe offlaoding) on bigger mdoels. If ur CPU is real good, it will attack even 32b models.

[little vigil]

i ran 2060 auper(8gb) and 3060(12gb) on gps oss 20b amd got 80 tk/s

[ornate harbor]

My whole system rn is
R5 5600
32GB DDR4 3600
Sparkle A750 Titan OC 8GB Tripple fan
1TB Kioxia Exceria G2 gen3x4 SSD

[little vigil]

on ollama wuantised

[plain cypress]

Dude based A750 user

[ornate harbor]

Hm?

wdym

[plain cypress]

We just love Intel GPUs here

That's all
Praise be the arc enjoyers 🙏

[ornate harbor]

Im planning on upgrading to a XFX Swift RX9060XT 16GB OC Tripple fan though :/

[sinful terrace]

should I just go dual 4060TI 16gb and say screw it

tokens/s would be very sexy too

[ornate harbor]

I dunno i have never had a Nvidia card better then a GTX600 series

[plain cypress]

L Radeon switcher
(Jk I just upgraded B580 to 5070ti)

[ornate harbor]

Yeah i dont have the money for a 5070ti

[plain cypress]

Depends on the price

[little vigil]

sure

[plain cypress]

I loved the a750 and b580, but I got tired of using low end gpus

[ornate harbor]

Yeah, im plaiyng at 3440x1440p, the A750 still gets 60 FPS in ARC Raiders, RDR2 or Cyperpunk on high setings but I want more

[plain cypress]

60 is too low

[ornate harbor]

Yeah

Thats why i want to upgrade

[native path]

How in the world does a pizza place advertise "Late Night Pizza" but cancel my order because it's too late? It's 12:30am

[ornate harbor]

Thats the one i want to upgrade too

[spring latch]

ay you pinged me asking what the SSD was but i personally couldnt find that ping (something got purged) but it was a PNY CS-900 1TB

that failed

[thick yacht]

Ive been thinking about diving down the linux rabbit hole, for gaming purposes. Where would be a good place to start?

[cosmic stratus]

Hate xfx bc they never fit in my case 13"+ ass cards

[spring latch]

ubuntu or popOS

[ornate harbor]

my case fits up to 418mm GPUs

[cosmic stratus]

My horizontal space is handicapped by my aio

[ornate harbor]

My AIO is mounted at the top, cant even mount it on the sides

[thick yacht]

i have a 2tb drive that i have some steam games installed on, is it possible to partition that so I can dual boot linux?

[cosmic stratus]

Mine cant go anywhere but the front

[spring latch]

if you installed them on windows they probably wont run on linux, best to install linux then the games

[oblique jay]

What monitor arm would be good for these?
https://www.currys.co.uk/products/aoc-agon-pro-ag276qzd2-quad-hd-27-quantum-dot-oled-gaming-monitor-black-10281361.html
https://www.currys.co.uk/products/aoc-27g2zn3bk-full-hd-27-va-wled-gaming-monitor-black-10265861.html

[spring latch]

but im not sure if proton handles games installed first with windows

[hallow jasper]

these don't weigh anything. your $45 amazon special will be sufficient

[ornate harbor]

I could have mounted mine at the side but I decided for the top

[native path]

No rear fan i'm disappointed

[ornate harbor]

Didnt want to buy another 6x fan pack only to have 5 lying around

[oblique jay]

main screen weights ~7kg

[thick yacht]

hmm, okay. so i may have to rethink my plan lol.

[oblique jay]

second ~5kg

[ornate harbor]

my monitor weighs 6.9kg too

[hallow jasper]

I don't know what main means but ag276qzd2 is 5.2kg, 27g2zn3-bk is 3.5kg

[ornate harbor]

Dang thats not much

[night delta]

i went from 6500 xt 8gb to b580

[ornate harbor]

is that a big jump i cant tell

[distant frigate]

https://www.theverge.com/news/835525/samsung-z-trifold-announcement-us-availability

First TriFold coming to the USA in 2026

[plain cypress]

Nice nice nice

[wild basin]

yall have any idea how to fix livekernelevent 117 error for rx 9070 xt?

[distant frigate]

Lmao. That’s so thin

[plain cypress]

I want to go back to arc when they have more powerful hardware

[distant frigate]

Idk why we need TriFold smartphones but they exist

I’m gonna stick to a slab smartphone

[plain cypress]

5090 monies 🤑

[distant frigate]

The cost is $2,500 USD with 512 GB of storage

[plain cypress]

It's a niche of a niche

[cosmic stratus]

An awsome luxury to have

[random gyro]

sup

[ornate harbor]

is that paper or dirt on my screen

[plain cypress]

But let me give you a different perspective: display manufacturers are continuing to put money into R&D of folding and flexible displays because it can have a variety of uses. Putting that into a showcase product to also help them test it on a consumer level makes sense even if they don't expect to sell a ton

[brazen glen]

this may well be the last gpu deal for the next 12 months lmao

[cosmic stratus]

My top space is taken by ram

[ornate harbor]

Why isnt side mounted good too

[ornate harbor]

What ram do you have...

[cosmic stratus]

Bc, limited gpu space

[distant frigate]

WTF the TriFold is 4.2 mm thin

[cosmic stratus]

Every good 9070XT is 13"+ in length

😭

[distant frigate]

Keep in mind the iPhone Air is 5.2 mm thin

[ornate harbor]

But how does your RAM block the top mount for your AIO

[cosmic stratus]

Less than 120mm of space

[ornate harbor]

Thats enough for a AIO wdym

[cosmic stratus]

Im missing about 3mm bc if ram

[ornate harbor]

That sounds like some really big RAM then...

[cosmic stratus]

They dont even have heatsink, its basic ddr4 ecc server dimms

[ornate harbor]

My ram does have heatsinks and my AIO has like 3cm of space left

[ornate harbor]

Wait wait wait what rotation is that mainbaord mounted in dawg i cant tell

[clear canyon]

yes you can, just be aware that a 5900x isnt a good gaming cpu, it can totaly do it but a 5600x beats or is on par with it for gaming

[cosmic stratus]

Up? horizontal memory bc its a server cpu

[ornate harbor]

Now it makes sense

or wait

it doesnt im just stupid i think

[cosmic stratus]

All u gotta know is that the top memory is too tall

Occupies space for 120mm fan

[ornate harbor]

I still dont get it :/ im just stupid

[cosmic stratus]

[clear canyon]

what are you confused on?

[cosmic stratus]

Look at this again

[ornate harbor]

How that mainboard is mounted so that the AIo doesnt fit at the top

[ornate harbor]

That doesnt even have fan mounts there

[cosmic stratus]

I would still cut out a space if there was enough room

[clear canyon]

its a server board, just how it is

[cosmic stratus]

But there isnt

[ornate harbor]

I still dont get it but idk 3D print a custom AIO mount

[clear canyon]

or just cut a hole in the case

you can buy magnetic filters to slap on it

air filters*

[cosmic stratus]

I would but no space, the radiator would have to be external, which I dont want

[clear canyon]

how come you aint using an air cooler?

[cosmic stratus]

No space

[ornate harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/head-smash-frustrated-smashing-head-banging-head-angry-gif-7660803061494747867

[clear canyon]

huh? how

[cosmic stratus]

A good one is too tall for this case

[sinful cobalt]

whats their cpu

[clear canyon]

get a low profile cooler

[ornate harbor]

What case is it maybe i can find a picture online

[sinful cobalt]

axp90-x47 blows

[cosmic stratus]

Xeon 1680v3 ran at 4.3ghz, it uses about 220watts but once I mod my bios its going to use nearly 300+

[sinful cobalt]

bruh

[clear canyon]

get a better case

[cosmic stratus]

Aio is the only option

[cosmic stratus]

Its a dell precision t5810 btw

[clear canyon]

or just cut a hole and do an external aio

[cosmic stratus]

Want it inside for asthetic and portability reasons

[clear canyon]

bruh

[ornate harbor]

Now it makes sense

[cosmic stratus]

Also bc it wont fit under my desk

It sits in a crate

[clear canyon]

get a server rack

[cosmic stratus]

At that point im jumping to am5

[ornate harbor]

get a server rack and screw it into the wall like a wall lamp like my school did

[cosmic stratus]

And this gets dropped to server duty

[clear canyon]

wall racks are common

[cosmic stratus]

With no further modification other than a fat multicore xeon

[ornate harbor]

construction foam

:)

[clear canyon]

I got this fat ass rack for free from work, including the rack mount case and the switches and monitor

[ornate harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-punch-ground-punching-ground-it-shouldve-been-me-it-shouldve-been-me-not-him-gif-18069003738146878767

[clear canyon]

i got around 12x 48port switches with most of them having poe++ for free too

[small cedar]

what’s better, i9-10900kf or i5-12600k?

[clear canyon]

I gave my friends some and donated the rest to my uni

[clear canyon]

12600k is massively better

[ornate harbor]

All i understood is that you got 12 switches

[clear canyon]

10900kf is old and slow

[small cedar]

damn okay thank you

[exotic glade]

guy can anyone please help me rq

[ornate harbor]

With what

[exotic glade]

my pc is showing no internet to any wifi i am connecting even when i am using Mobile hotspot and my phone has an active internet connection i really need help urgently i got assignments pending 🙏😭

[ornate harbor]

You prepared that text didnt you

[exotic glade]

duh

2nd place i am asking this 😮‍💨

[ornate harbor]

Uhhh try ethernet :)

[exotic glade]

not working 😮‍💨

[small cedar]

what about the i9-12900ks vs the i5-12600k?

[ornate harbor]

Try USB Tethering

[exotic glade]

again not working

[ornate harbor]

Try bluetooth tethering

[clear canyon]

I mean 12900ks is better, but thats obvious

[exotic glade]

interesting yeah

honestly at this point i am tempted to just get linux

[ornate harbor]

I mean the onyl options you really have are;
Ethernet
USB tethering
Bluetooth Tethering

[ornate harbor]

[bronze summit]

To completely immerse you into the full RDR1 Experience we have put this shit on a 30fps lock

[exotic glade]

if only i didn't had too many games and files

[ornate harbor]

Steam takes up 275GB on my SSD rn

[small cedar]

how much would you pay for it second hand?

[clear canyon]

well on ebay they go for 250 USD and up

I wouldnt buy it tho

[small cedar]

how come?

[clear canyon]

I prefer amd

and that socket is now dead

[exotic glade]

bluetooth tethering not working either

[small cedar]

what if i got it for 160 usd?

[clear canyon]

so not much upgradability

[clear canyon]

not a bad deal but you will need a lga 1700 motherboard

[small cedar]

and that’s bad because?

[clear canyon]

and you gotta make sure its either a ddr4 or ddr5 board

[ornate harbor]

you are cooked

One last option is there

[clear canyon]

its the socket? you cant just put any cpu into any motherboard

[small cedar]

well yes but is there something wrong with lga1700?

[clear canyon]

wdym

[small cedar]

i don’t have a motherboard yet so it’s not like it won’t fit? I’d buy one

[clear canyon]

I recommend going am5 then if ur building

[small cedar]

i’m on a tight budget but what am5 cpu would you recommend then?

[clear canyon]

7600 is around 180 bucks

[native path]

Worth noting AM5 doesn't support your DDR4 memory

[clear canyon]

yes thats true

you will need ddr5, which is pricy currently :/

[small cedar]

never mind then 😔

would love ddr5 but it’s just ridiculous

[clear canyon]

on lga 1700, you will need to get a ddr4 board as thats the generation of when ddr5 came out so they tried to help transition ppl over by making ddr4 and 5 boards

[ornate harbor]

like +500% price :/

[small cedar]

right i see

what do the different letters mean on the end of CPUs? i’m getting quite confused

[clear canyon]

K means it overclocks, KS means its a high binned chip so it can be pushed harder, T means low power so it will consume less power but perform worse than its non T counterpart, F means no built in gpu

man prices really gone up

[small cedar]

ohh I see

[clear canyon]

4X the price 😔

[small cedar]

are they ever going to come down?

[clear canyon]

yes

[small cedar]

like what when AI bubble bursts 😭

[clear canyon]

when ever the chip shortage goes away

[sinful cobalt]

💀

thats one on the regrets list

[clear canyon]

lmao

[pulsar shore]

Hi guys, so i've ordered a sapphire 9070 xt along with a new PSU Corsairs 850e the gpu will have 2x8 pins while the psu came with only 1x8 but it does have 12v 2x6 pin connectors will that be good enough or should i go for the safe way and order another 8pin pci?

[hallow jasper]

which Sapphire 9070xt

[clear canyon]

wdym order another 8pin pcie?

and you must have all the pcie power cables plugged in or it wont boot

[sinful cobalt]

what 850w unit only comes with 1 8 pin

[clear canyon]

another question to add to the list

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-pepe-frog-talking-discussing-meme-gif-26871471

[pulsar shore]

im confused myself, ive browsed all reddit shit is driving me crazy

[sinful cobalt]

“i have the seat full of water. like full of water”

must be the water

[pulsar shore]

Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming 16GB GDDR6

[hallow jasper]

it comes with 3

[clear canyon]

"This floor is made out of floor" type comment

[hallow jasper]

well, two cables, 3 connectors between them

nothing needed to purchase

[pulsar shore]

ive literally have only one

[clear canyon]

yeah I had to use a daisy chain cable to power my 4080

[clear canyon]

well you need to find it or buy a new psu bc you cant mix cables

[hallow jasper]

Guys, two full cables and the card only has two inputs. he's got what he needs no daisy chaining necessary

[clear canyon]

you cant mix different PSU cables

[hallow jasper]

done and done

[clear canyon]

This is the daisy chain cable im talkin about

[hallow jasper]

he only needs to use a single output on it

[clear canyon]

yeah

[hallow jasper]

there is another straight through cable included

[clear canyon]

assuming he has it XD

[hallow jasper]

he says he ordered it new so, i sure hope so

[clear canyon]

🙏

[pulsar shore]

im fina send photos

i literally have 1

[hallow jasper]

full cable listing in the box

for this specific RM850e https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/psu/cp-9020263-na/rme-series-rm850e-fully-modular-low-noise-atx-power-supply-cp-9020263-na?srsltid=AfmBOordobWKjXjIQUTaHmasivzy5Jvie5-Pmh0PVorLXvUExJtxA2NQ

[clear canyon]

I dont understand how you only have 1

[hallow jasper]

regardless, its a Corsair Type 4 so cables are easy to find

[pulsar shore]

2 cpu cables, 1 direct pcie only, and 1 12v2x6

all i have in the box excluding the sata etc

[clear canyon]

thats not all of the cables

[pulsar shore]

so this the one im missing

[pulsar shore]

will this be fine?

[clear canyon]

@hallow jasper you answer this lol

[hallow jasper]

probably

but i'd just buy from Corsair, tbh

[pulsar shore]

k

so the 12v 2x6 is a no go for such gpu?

[hallow jasper]

you don't have a 12v2x6 connector on your GPU. I asked which Sapphire as they do make a model that uses it

[brazen glen]

I have my 9070xt daisy chained and it does totally fine tbh

Or pigtailed whatever you wanna call it

Like unless you have an intel chip you’re not going to be getting anywhere close to the limit of your 12v rail, and those PCIe cables are overspecced

[hallow jasper]

it sounds like the only cable they have is the single straight through

so not even the one with the pigtail

[frigid topaz]

My g29 wheel doesent fit my thick desk so I gotta cut some plastic off

[granite comet]

we doin heroin???

hell yeah

[frigid topaz]

Nah cutting the clamp shorter

[pulsar shore]

idk i've just chatted with the support where i bought the gpu from apparently the 12v 2x6 pin will work just fine for this model.

[hallow jasper]

How exactly do you expect to plug it in

[pulsar shore]

but then again reading reddit posts people saying that it melts down

[hallow jasper]

ignore that second part

i'm hoping you have the RM850e i posted a while back

[pulsar shore]

yes

[hallow jasper]

or all this information will be wrong. I asked if thats the one you had

[pulsar shore]

its an 8 pin actually like 6 + 2 you know what i mean

im like completely fresh to this stuff

[hallow jasper]

On the PSU side, dual 8pins to 16-pin (12v2x6).

Your card does not have a 16-pin (12v2x6) connector like the Nitro model from Sapphire.

Therefore you cannot use that cable.

[pulsar shore]

im losing my shit bro

[hallow jasper]

power connector on the Nitro+ from Sapphire.

[left dove]

✨ Prior research is important ✨

[hallow jasper]

Power connector on your card (Pulse)

[pulsar shore]

right so cant i plug the 16pin to the psu and use the 2x8 to the gpu?

[left dove]

nono

[hallow jasper]

Ports on your PSU

[left dove]

physically different connectors

[hallow jasper]

That 12v2x6 cable is meant to plug into primarily Nvidia GPU's and the like 2 AMD cards that use that connector

[pulsar shore]

that is different to my one

[hallow jasper]

Thats why I asked like over an hour ago

I linked this and asked is this your PSU. https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/psu/cp-9020263-na/rme-series-rm850e-fully-modular-low-noise-atx-power-supply-cp-9020263-na?srsltid=AfmBOordobWKjXjIQUTaHmasivzy5Jvie5-Pmh0PVorLXvUExJtxA2NQ

[pulsar shore]

ye but the model you said is exactly to what i have

but diff connections

[kindred halo]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-discrete-gpus-have-reached-1-desktop-aib-market-share

https://tenor.com/view/hell-yeah-breaking-bad-jesse-breaking-bad-jesse-pinkman-walter-white-gif-24546693

[hallow jasper]

The reason I asked is there are different variants so I assumed you looked and made sure

[hallow jasper]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/psu/cp-9020296-na/rme-series-rm850e-fully-modular-low-noise-atx-power-supply-cp-9020296-na?srsltid=AfmBOop0xf5yhPA8C541R6YlcdKr7hd80CS8RxJRxpOoiPrSlsVQ4sNn

Ok, so lets start over.

top one, can't use.

[pulsar shore]

yep

[hallow jasper]

now the middle...

Corsair never makes this easy but that appears to be a breakout for 12V2x6 to dual 8pins

[pulsar shore]

right

[hallow jasper]

if that is indeed the case, then yo ucan just use that

it says dual 6+2's so that would only be GPU side so yeah I guess thats what that is

well that was painful but we got there in the end

[pulsar shore]

lovely, the only part about it i dont like reading the reddit and people showing pics that it tends to melt the cables

[pulsar shore]

indeed bro, thanks for ur help ❤️

[hallow jasper]

I despise corsairs habit of just renaming every new PSU the same damn thing and having them all availale for sale at the same time

even when they make big changes

[craggy cove]

no clue what im doing

[craggy cove]

mostly to maintain a recognizable brand but yeah they should keep v3 or something in the name

[warm saddle]

Does this power modes actually changes performance?

[swift stream]

oh god not the genshin fandom again

[winter lantern]

Genshin has been ass recently no need to worry

[swift stream]

you know they gonna make copy votes just for primos

[cold skiff]

Please press your cooler down on that and show us the speed underneath. That looks so wild, it looks like it will work well

[winter lantern]

Lowkey fair

[cold skiff]

Also please invest in a contact frame. That poor Intel cpu gonna flex more than Arnie ever did

[swift stream]

round ends today so everyone vote bf6 rivals or wuwa (i only really like those)

[swift stream]

it is just a dot 😔

[midnight eagle]

hey, how dry do you think a thermal pad needs to be before its replaced? The pads i have currently all seem fine all bar the vrm one which is more or less dry to the touch and no longer sticky but it is still floppy and seems to be compressable

trying to avoid buying thermal pads that will take weeks to turn up xD

[onyx idol]

Man. As much as I want to support the Steam Machine, it's basically just a complete downgrade from my current/already-in-house desktop, & I'm really not in need of a 2nd desktop X(

[ivory mountain]

genshin is horse shit lol, zenless and wuwa clear

[fluid matrix]

What gpu's should I look for 2nd hand for around 300 euro's?

[ornate harbor]

I would vote for WuWa

[iron glen]

What new and innovative addition did genshin add now?

[ornate harbor]

A bit i think but not much

[craggy cove]

no way, thats the price of 3 ice creams

[craggy cove]

uhh i smudged it a bunch because of this dumbass cooler

looked fine, forgot to take a pic

[dusk patio]

I haven't touched the game since unlocking Sumeru after taking like 3 years to find the willpower to complete Inazuma

[rigid fjord]

we getting another case of people not bothering to read properly?

[hallow jasper]

half that, half Corsair being stupid and having no difference in their PSU names each generation.

I should have done more when I asked them to confirm the RM850e I linked was the actual RM850e they had

[indigo basin]

is there anywhere in this server where i could ask if people have hardware for sale?
dunno what the rules are on that

[warm saddle]

hell nah

[indigo basin]

ram prices are actually getting out of hand

[dusk patio]

you could try the hardware swap reddit maybe

[tired bear]

homelab sales reddit?

but idk what kind of hardware are you interested in

[hallow jasper]

hardware swap discord/subreddit

[dusk patio]

yeah if you already have a solid gaming PC, you're not the target market for it

[hallow jasper]

oh, yes this

[indigo basin]

i need ram

[tired bear]

how much, what kind, what speed

[indigo basin]

128GB of RDIMM, ~2133MHz, ddr4
it was like £150-200 last month
its now bordering £1000

[onyx idol]

But goddammit it still has enough cool features & IDK when a proper release of SteamOS will happen

[indigo basin]

all american listings

[rigid fjord]

the 12v 2x6 port on the psu is for a direct 12v 2x6 to 12v 2x6 cable

[tired bear]

def https://www.reddit.com/r/homelabsales/ teritory

[versed pecan]

Anyone know what mounting hole setup the WD Red Plus and WD Black 10TB drives use? They aren't compatible with my phanteks eclipse P400A Digital HDD Bays despite being the same physical size as my other HDDs.

[hallow jasper]

Didn't realize there were differences for normal 3.5" HDD's

[dusk patio]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HardwareSwapUK/

[rigid fjord]

tf dude, they didn't state that it's the newer version of the psu, though nominally, the 12v 2x6 port is usually for a straight cable

[tired bear]

da box of memories

[indigo basin]

please brother

[cold skiff]

Yeah some go to PCIe now to save space and money by psu manufacturer

[versed pecan]

I didn't either. But the position of the holes in the drives are different. Same 2 holes per side, but they're spaced differently

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/oats-no-pigs-pig-brother-gif-8274685160072684375

[rigid fjord]

they are compatible, but you may find you have to slide them in differently for it to work

[cold skiff]

WD had different spacing in holes for raptor drives also

It’s not a new thing from them

[indigo basin]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrate-gif-22469905

[versed pecan]

Do most HDD bays have the same hole expectations? I want to get the Enthoo Pro case, but am not sure if I'll have to get unique bays for those either.

[cold skiff]

Yes

It’s a standard

You used to get clip bays where you could slide a plastic clip along

[versed pecan]

I'll try that. It'd be a bit of a pain cause then I'd have to redo the whole wire management

[tired bear]

bays = unique
screw hole positions = standard

[versed pecan]

There's a little nub in the p400a bays that get in the way of the new drives

[indigo basin]

absolutely NOTHING

[rigid fjord]

@versed pecan thia ia the caddy for holding the hdd's in the bay in your case?

[versed pecan]

Yeah that looks like the ones

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/titan-gif-20293593

[warm saddle]

Does this power modes actually changes performance?

[versed pecan]

This little nub is the primary cause of incompatibility with these drives I feel

[tired bear]

nub goes in the hdd hole

[rigid fjord]

so the last 2 screw holes then on any hdd is what it's designed for @versed pecan

[versed pecan]

The drives I have either have it elsewhere or not at all, sadly

It fits the two other HDD's I had in them, but not the 10TBs

[tired bear]

you dont have middle hole?

[versed pecan]

Nope

[tired bear]

then snip the nub off

[versed pecan]

And that's for the sides, I can't fully close the clamps due to that

I suppose i'd have to. Not too into hardware modding but frankly I guess this is harmless

[rigid fjord]

side cutters and cut the nub off

[versed pecan]

Might also have to remove the middle hole nub thing too since that can't clamp in due to the lacking center hole

[tired bear]

this is why i prefer screws

[rigid fjord]

the rubber grommit won't stop it, that's for vibrations

it's the end 2 that locks it in place

[rigid fjord]

i prefer dells 2 takes on it

[versed pecan]

This bit?

[tired bear]

that i the rail i modified to add compatability with 2.5 inch drives in 3.5 inch caddy

[rigid fjord]

2 styles doing the exact same thing, second ones comes with ssd adapter

[rigid fjord]

that bit to cut out, and the white bit is the rubber grommit

[tired bear]

but this is not hot swap bay

[kindred halo]

Harro rauko

[versed pecan]

So chop off the inner nub and the middle clamp nubs?

[rigid fjord]

ah, they do this one on their servers

[rigid fjord]

yes, you only need to leave the rear one so it can lock

[versed pecan]

Alright. I suppose that'll work then.

I'll do just the one, cause the other drive is haphazardly installed onto my other PC, which will eventually be moved into the case my other 10TB is in, so it can just use that bay while I hack the bay of the new case lol

[rigid fjord]

sup

[kindred halo]

Hru

[versed pecan]

Ty for the help btw everyone. I appreciate it

[rigid fjord]

not to bad, you?

[kindred halo]

That's good to hear, I am alright :3

[golden sage]

Please excuse the terrible quality, it is from a from who has a fogged up mobile phone camera

I wanna ask why does 165 or 144hz not work for my friend? he is using displayport cable

I cant seem to find it out myself, he does have the cable plugged into his GPU to the monitor

Its stuck at 120hz

[grizzled pawn]

Some older graphics cards do not support higher refresh rate. That cuold be the problem.

[thin plover]

hmm i think i found the reason of my pc suddenly shutting down

[clear canyon]

Whats ur gpu

[hallow jasper]

should we guess, or are you going to provide details

[clear canyon]

Guess ☺️

[hallow jasper]

I guess we're just supposed to be all knowing

[clear canyon]

Imagine not being omnipotent

Im gonna guess rx 580

[golden sage]

Right it seems i left the edit on draft and didnt press enter, my bad, its an RTX 2060 (this is a friend's computer, not mine)

[clear canyon]

What resolution monitor

[golden sage]

1080p!

[clear canyon]

Ok ur within spec then for the gpu

[golden sage]

oh and by the way, i have my own suspicions on the cable itself not gonna lie

[clear canyon]

It can do 1080p 240hz and 1440p 144hz

[clear canyon]

Could be that

[golden sage]

"hp" 💀

[clear canyon]

Yeah try a different cable

[hallow jasper]

send this again without being super cropped

[iron glen]

Dude thats stupid how will the pc get hp then

It'll run out and die

[golden sage]

LOL

[clear canyon]

[hallow jasper]

ok it is the GPU. something was weird about how it was just black above the cable like that was some case port

[clear canyon]

Lol

[iron glen]

So weird seeing an ethernet port that doesn't have a cable in it

Idk why

[hallow jasper]

anyway. different cable, different port on GPU, factory reset monitor through OSD, DDU display drivers. In no particular order

[golden sage]

Oh and by the way, to add more context

This is the exact pc my friend got scammed $550 from

^

[brave brook]

or dy https://www.hewlettpackardhistory.com/item/turning-hp-upside-down/

[rigid fjord]

apart from the wifi card, no none of it be new

[golden sage]

Yeah

[iron glen]

Wsp rauko

[patent zenith]

hi

[iron glen]

Heyo

[rigid fjord]

not much, you?

[iron glen]

Shopping

[patent zenith]

do the staff talk in the chat

[iron glen]

Sometimes

[patent zenith]

i was in this group a while back

[iron glen]

Uhuh

[rigid fjord]

you have to be special to catch them chatting

[patent zenith]

i am lol

[rigid fjord]

clearly not

[patent zenith]

i am special needs

[iron glen]

Gotta find all the aztec gold and sacrifice the cursed's blood or wtv they did in pirates of the Caribbean

[rigid fjord]

don't forget the 1 legged hopping talking goat

[iron glen]

What 😭

[high steppe]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mj7874

Would this be a good system?

Looking to make a small form factor pc after daily driving my laptop for about 2 years

[rigid fjord]

no

[dusty kayak]

https://www.retailbrew.com/stories/2025/11/05/walmart-brings-ai-powered-tools-to-the-in-store-experience I think this would be a great topic for the wan show who agrees?

[high steppe]

Ah I see

Any reason as to why? Xd

[rigid fjord]

for the price you could go am5 instead, and a p3 plus is a terrible drive

also a 970 evo plus is never worth it

[fringe prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

am4 with that gpu for 1700 is terrible

[ornate harbor]

Is it possible that you can tell me that wallpaper name?

[high steppe]

I was mainly going to get the parts second hand, as that's what I did last time and turned out well. I didn't think going am5 would be cheaper than am4 tho.. and P3 is perfectly fine, I've got the 4tb version in my laptop and it works great

[fringe prairie]

anything but allowing you to use apple pay in store

[high steppe]

I was told it was a good pairing

[fringe prairie]

maybe under like 700

[high steppe]

Again that's just retail price, I wait for good deals

[fringe prairie]

there’s no reason to buy into am4

if you can spend £1700 get am5

[golden sage]

i would have to ask my friend that question

[ornate harbor]

:/

[golden sage]

my bad, like i said its not my computer haha

[ornate harbor]

Ah i didnt see that

[rigid fjord]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2VQ674 @high steppe

for essentially £300 cheaper a build, and way more performance

windows is free to run

[tired bear]

250 for 32gb is still baffling to me

[golden sage]

Right, im glad i got myself a new kit of cl28 32gb 6000mts before this whole fiasco lol

[tired bear]

i got myself 64gb 1 y ago for 200 euros

[golden sage]

nice!

[rigid fjord]

same but it's like the only decent kit that isn't out of stock, and also yeah, was more fun seeing this at around £90

[tired bear]

ram manufacturers are making bank rn lmao

[golden sage]

They now sit inside safely 🤣

[tired bear]

bling blings

[rigid fjord]

the fugly royales

[golden sage]

i knew you'd say this! XD

[rigid fjord]

because it's true

[tired bear]

what would 3.5tb of ram cost nowadays

[rigid fjord]

a pair of kidneys, spleen and someone's heart

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[tired bear]

*human

[rigid fjord]

*neighbour's

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/my-enemy-enemy-gif-26060859

[hexed tapir]

50 pound 512gb SSD is painful fucking hate ai

[high steppe]

wasn't actually going to buy windows lol i just put it there

[rigid fjord]

less painful than the ram for pricing

[tired bear]

ram in my laptop is worth more than the whole laptop (2x16gb)

[gleaming rose]

aren't they installing spyware on all the phones

yes??

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/story/sanchar-saathi-pegasus-spyware-centre-order-app-privacy-surveillance-concerns-2829174-2025-12-02

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/dwight-dwight-schrute-the-office-no-lets-put-it-this-way-no-gif-6635636136578647904

[gleaming rose]

the US sucks but I'd rather be here

[rigid fjord]

free dehli belly with every purchase

[gleaming rose]

yep

hm?

why do so many governments have to oppress their people

[rigid fjord]

command prompt -> ipconfig /flushdns

[gleaming rose]

you are not tuff broski

[tired bear]

no no zone for me is everything except green and parts of the light greens

[gleaming rose]

you think they're worried about that?

that's on your PC not on your phone

[rigid fjord]

so, the uk with it's free healthcare is good for you?

[gleaming rose]

I wanna live in like Switzerland or something

[tired bear]

there are other requriements but this base requiremet needs to be fulfiled first for country to be considered by me

[cosmic idol]

Australia