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using the wrong flavour i guess
Once you’re a Vegan equivalent for an OS you will always stay that way
absolutely, I needed something simpler, but I am EXTREMELY stubborn
nix was my first linux experience
You’d be a good vegan
(I spent a week figuring out how to get my wifi to work)
should have used eith pop!os or bazzite if you want to play games
only if he proves he can't hunt can he be called a vegan


trump or obama 🔥 (non political)
nah its nothing
call him after 3k hours
Are there any microphones similar to the Quadcast S?
I do NOT know how to hunt
idk i paid 250$ for mine
how long ago?
I mean, personally, I underload the SHIT out of my cpu
it sits at like 30c and I dont want it any higher
this time
so I dont need such power as a nicer mobo would provide
yeah, I was looking at them back then
then when it came time to get mine, there were none
so I got the b series
L
I mean, not like it matters, yet again, I do NOT need such qualities

under 100% extreme stress my cpu gets to like 47c because I've neutered it
did you manage to see about the titan
No more info 🙁
does tech chat yap about cameras ever? I'm not in here too often so I wouldnt know
strange
Huawei liquid glass
P9 lite mini is the model
All stock too
have you done any mods to your 3d printer?
damn, that sucks
Will fans connected to this splitter work as 3-or 4-pin?
they'll work as 4 pin, the only thing that's disabled is the tachometer sensor pin for those coming from the pigtails?
I have two fans, should I connect both to the 3 pins or one to the 4?
Is the tach important
only for the first fan to be connected to it as that reports back to the mobo what speed the fans are doing
one to the 4 pin, and one on a 3 pin
how the spliter and some basic fan hubs are wired up
the more slightly fancier powered hubs
is normal that i have something like a coil whine sound from the parts of the motherboard around CPU? it can be heard even if i dont do anything. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1128014035313504478/1444443569372008645/IMG_1341.mov?ex=692cba67&is=692b68e7&hm=5ea3c730cc5548d1ca4a8c2ad3fa9dcc7e278e17997037de56ae32a5d752b0eb&
Would you guys recommend me installing the aio onto motherboard before putting it in the case or after putting it in the case
Its so dense
I see, I connected the first fan there
Guys do you think this is a good deal for my buddy? I’m upgrading my build and selling my old parts in a bundle, 13900kf, z790-c, it’s some B tier PSU that ran my 4090, AIO, 32gb ddr5 6000 RAM, for $650?
Should I leave it like this?
The main discount is im not charging anywhere close to market value for the RAM
$100
Idrc about it, I’ve had it for years (not used)
Should the CPU fans be in auto or PWM mode, also how about smart fan?
PSU gives them an upgrade path for the GPU, 13900kf should be competitive for a while
I completely disregard DC
yes, as the first fan sets the speed for all other fans on a hub/splitter
actually bit of a bargain for that
I thought so, I’m trying not to go too low but I think it’s OK for used
And then idk what to do with the case
CPU seems to be sold 300-350 USD on eBay
Mobo should be around 100 on eBay
Yah that’s how I priced it
50 aio
80 ram (not the current prices)
I mean it seems like you're offering him a eBay priced deal
mobo is more like 150 tbh
Except without the RAM price spike
Perhance, I saw a few 790c for 99 on eBay
what aio was you using with it
I think it should be a decent deal 
It’s a pre built I bought on eBay for a bargain at the time
ah, so possibly a coolermaster one or similar but rebranded then
because ibuypower likes to do this kinda shit
Well at least they’re not buying like completely shit ones
do you not know of the master leakers?
cooler master aio's, ML line nicknamed as masterleakers because the pipes broke and leaked
lol
4 dimm kits probably even worse because there’s so little of them in the first place
the smoking crack prices
with ddr5 people should only get a pair of sticks, and for the better part 5200-5600 is the likely speeds you get with manual tuining using 4 sticks in most cases
Why would you ever use 4 ddr5 dimms
i could only see it being viable for the likes of threadripper
i was js searching for ram sticks on a good price, never intend buy 4 ddr5 sticks
didnt even know ts was possible
you never saw the 4 slots on a motherboard?
it's possible but you sacrifice alot of speed
buy x3d cpu to compensate 
mostly found boards with 2 slots
tbf i was mostly look on itx and matx boards
but hold on
why do i lose speed with more ram slots?
Here are my upgrade options from 3050 75w 6gb
5700xt
Rx 6600
Rtx 3060
We shall see in 9 days rauko, that’s when I come back from visiting my gf and start the OC missions on my 4 dimms
6000 is the goal
what prices
3060 is the best one but if its triple the price then obv not
If I wait I could get either a 5050 or a 6700xt
Oh yah @azure topaz forgot to tell you we gotta postpone 9 days
Nearly around the same surprisingly
Would it be more worth it to wait until the end of the year @latent pasture
5050 is out
My wallet is not
5060 sold for $200 on newegg a few days ago
going to be a ton of manual tuning for it, but by default running 4 sticks of ddr5 puts you at something like 3600 cl40
4800
That’s JEDEC default minimum or something
At least that’s what mine run at
that's if your lucky, and 3600 is a jedec spec also for ddr5
We did it before, got to 5600 before started becoming unstable, but I’ve just upgraded IMC, and mobo
5050 is being sold at retailers for 14k egp
5700xt is being sold secondhand for around 9k egp at local stores
6700xt is being sold secondhand for around
14-15k egp
3060 is being sold for around 12k egp (12gb version)
Rx 6600 is being sold for around 10k egp
Sidenote 1k egp = 20$
I wanna hit that 6k
5070 OC is getting a door buster deal on Newegg soon @tawny fossil
Might wanna wait and see what it is
@latent pasture
wheres rtx 40 and rx 7000
what's a 9060xt's price?
Rtx 4060 is automatically disqualified
9070xt is also getting a door buster deal in 2 days on Newegg
why? if the price is fine whats wrong wtih it
the rtx 5050 ur getting is literally 4060 perf
and 8gb vram
Maybe in frame gen
Well they're being sold for 25k egp or 500$ but around black Friday they were actually being sold for msrp and they might start selling them for msrp
It's the same prime as 5060
lol no
And used same price as new 5050
So it is automatically disqualified
has rx 9060 non xt gotten to ur location yet
Nope
Rx 9060xt at MSRP is a possible option at the end of the year if they start selling them for msrp
Or near msrp
18-20k egp
4060 has more raw performance
But I am not so sure but I am kinda sure that the 6700xt has better preformance than the 9060xt
5050 is on avg 2% slower than 4060
basically an error lol
Rx 7600 is disqualified for being the same price as the 5060
Not in game
yes in game
What benchmarks are you looking at?
if you wanna play the "uhhh but in this 1 game 4060 is 30% better"
then i can bring you a bunch of games where rtx 4060 ti is 200% better than rx 7900xtx
I’m looking at average
It’s pretty much on par with it in raster
If you can get a 6700xt cheaper, just get that tbh
If you can get the 9060xt 16gb* cheaper - get that
tomshardware and techpowerup avg
I'm narrowing it down to at the end of the year probably
Rx 6700xt،rx 9060xt 16gb,rtx 5060 8gb
6700xt probably 5fps or average slower tbh
5050 stays a possible option given price drops
Fucking lol
It's price might drop to 12k egp at any moment
You’re not seriously going to buy a 5050
? whats wrong if the price is fine
I don't see why not if it's cheap and preforms well I buy
people absolutely devour the youtube thumbnails of waaah any rtx 40 and 50 bad waaah 😭😭 dont buy avoid at all costs waaah 😭😭
without even thinking that prices are different for some people
That's why I am happy with my 12100f but I am selling the cpu and motherboard which will cover the price of a 13400f and I will get a b760 for an extra hundred dollars
this is new information
i vote to keep the 12100f and put all the budget to better gpu
9060xt is what I want to buy but I only buy if I can find it within my budget
My motherboard is proper gobshite
This is the massive performance bracket you’re considering. If you buy a 5050 and you’re also considering a 9060xt 16gb - you’re stupid.
doesnt affect performance for this tier of cpus
unless ur actually running out of usb slots etc
Wait 3070 is a possible option
unfortunately I am and I don't even have any neat accessories bro
It’s way better than the ewaste you said you would buy
what r u plugging in
id sooner say buy a cheap usb splitter than revamp ur entire setup
Keyboard mouse phone to use as webcam microphone
And all my USB slots are gone.
thats 3
then thats 4
what else did u want to plug in
I have 3 up top but my case is also not the best and refuses to recognizes some devices
My motherboard has 4 USB slots
usb dongle is like 150 egb
It's only going to be a 100$ or 5000egp difference to get a new motherboard and a 13400f
The 13400f will help me do some things I want to do as well
meanwhile if u put that budget to gpu, ur getting like +30-50% performance
the lower end u are, the more every bit can contribute to a huge upgrade
in todays european market how much would my pc go for if i was to sell?
Ryzen 7 7700
asus TUF a620-plus
32 GB kingston fury DDR5
1 TB MSI M371 SSD
gigabyte windforce RTX 4070
650 watt deepcool pk650D PSU
azza spectra case
Yeah that's sort of true but I want to upgrade so I can keep it for a good bit and I think I'd use the extra cores.
Well I don't think I actually would but I can't
Can I have it I will give you 200$ and some pizza for it 🙏
I just got warshipped for short handing @tawny fossil name 🤦♂️
Warship even changes to your actual discord handle
@tawny fossil
i mean, putting the money to gpu achieves this
Lol j was being sarcastic hole you didn't get offended
the "good enough cpu" threshold is much easier to achieve in most workloads than gpu
Remove the gaming from your name and say it
Oh
Yeah 
I see
these are 'mid tier' 70 series gpus and u can see even going as old as 9th gen or zen2 (both of which worse than 12100f btw) one can argue u arent losing much perf
My name offends so many people like broski this is just a fucking name not a warcrime violation
I mean 12100f has insane single core preformance
For the price
lga 1700 gang
🤗

Lga 1700 my beloved
Lga 1700 is better than am5 objectively interms of value
I know you guys love Nvidia but come on
Give me the ram sticks for $50 each 💀
Can anyone help me with this??
Should've invested before
@latent pasture
LGA 1718 is the real hero
wat
As long as SO DIMM laptop ram doesn't skyrocket in prices
How cooked am i?
I bought a Quadcast S microphone instead of a ram stick for my laptop
And PGA1331 is the GOAT socket
what you got? a 12100f?
Yes
W pfp
I have a 12700kf
AM5 is a lga1718
its been fun
Nice I'm getting a 13400f soon in like march
why not a 14100f?
I've heard really good things
the i3s r all the same cpu
really?
Anyone able to take a look at my parts list make sure everything looks good? Not really looking for any optimizations just making sure everything is compatible and makes sense
12100f to 14100f r all 4c8t 12th gen cpu
the difference is like going from 4.1 4.2 4.3ghz
basically get whatevers cheapest
@latent pasture so realestically I'll have 12000 egp or 240$ to upgrade
I might do a slight upgrade to the 5700xt
amd has indicated they might eol rx 5000 and 6000
so thats another -point to that
Oh I had a question for you
with slight slight overclocking, a 12100f is a 14100f?
But what about doing it as a temporary less than 1 year upgrade until I can afford to upgrade to 9060xt 16gb
The Ryzen 7 260 in my legion 5, does it have separate efficiency and performance cores?
bruh u can google that
Ik but idk the point of separating them
why are you even asking if you dont know what difference it makes?
is ur current gpu that intolerably bad
cuz if u dont buy the intermediate gpu, u can afford the big gpu faster
also curious whats the price of 6600xt and 6650xt
same with 6750xt
Because the price I got it for is suspiciously good
They’re separate because they do separate things
cuz its old
Stuff like running a browser and other stuff are done by lower frequency efficiency cores right?
its the same 7840hs from 2(?) years ago
its not like 8c16t zen4 is bad lol thats still very good
one performancies and the other efficiencies (I am being silly)
@lapis talon wait till nova lake
There’s gonna be a new core type
Gonna blow your mind
AI haters keep taking the L
we dont have to im p sure theres current intel cpus with 3 core type
||muh ultra 9 x3d or whuteva!!!!!!||
LP cores
Also I forgot to tell you I play alot of eSports games
do tell please
Low power I think
This is my humble setup
Like super slow cores just for background stuff
It is humble fr.
whats ur current gpu again
if its just for this then how is it not satisfactory
I need those fr
can someone explain to my why you get so triggered when someone even uses ai in a discussion not about it
like you cant even dare stand to be in its presence and derail an entire discussion to moan
it is because most of you are failed artists and it doesn’t what you do in second?
the newest models can now replicate any style, any idea, in a good res
It is satisfactory in games but it's not satisfactory for multi tasking
that is NOT that much really
what socket? new socket or the first ultra socket?
I'm SO pumped to spent 500 dollars on an itx board the second it comes out
yeah I have no clue because I've never paid mind to the ultra socket
in hindsight, I shoulda got an ultra 3
If you get the flagship you’ll have 52 cores
that new ultra 7 is looking REALLY good
I need a new phone
This camera is booty
High end pc with low end phone perfect match
just got a 16e, never been happier
idk how they call this "budget"
I have a 12 mini
very based
I chose the 16e because its the same size as the se
The age is starting to catch up to it
I used an se2 up until about 2 days ago, still held strong
I just want the oled and usbc
couldnt care bout the ecosystem or the processor
I have this phone because it was the oldest that supported 5G
That’s the only reason
what are the camera specs?
No clue
I'm still a little pissed my new one has over double the MP that my fancy mirrorless camera has
does any one have any mechanical keyboard recommendations for around 100$
MP is only one part of the story
I know, its just bothers me
I used to use a 12mp nikon d3 happily
a camera from 2008 btw
Smartphone companies when they turn 12mp into 100mp
I would love to own a hasslebald h60 (400mp) camera
It has a 100 mp sensor but it physically moves it 4 times when taking a picture
This is my current for context
nikon z50 with the tamron 18-300 that released for z mount 2 months ago
I sold my Nikon and bought a 4090
what camera?
Nikon p1000
oooh, I almost bought that one
but then I decided interchanging lenses was too important to me
I mean, I love huge lenses
If you know what it can do and what it can't beforehand then you won't be disappointed
Lots of people shit on it because they didn't research properly
AOC OLED 280hz cheaper than 32GB RAM ._.
I find it very enjoyable to walk up to people and zoom in all the way
What camera you guys have?
nikon z50
I think the p1000 is 3000mm if you count the sensor size or whatever
with a 18-300 3.5-6.3
I have the Sony A6400
thats why I almost bought it
Now I know what people who don’t know anything about computers hear when they listen to me talk about them
No clue what any of this gibberish is
The Sigma 16mm f1.4 is atm my fav lens for basically everything
If I would ever get a camera I would be one to do photogrammetry
So basically some big sensor and a lot of MP
Who up zoomin they lense
I’ve been also looking at getting an ultrawide for my camera. The Sony 11mm f1.8
How heavy?
Atm the only telephoto lens i have is the Sony 18-105mm f4.0
that aint telephoto
thats just zoom I'm pretty sure
K then zoom lens
I’m still kinda new to this stuff so idk the terminology for everythin
I just assumed telephoto meant zoom lol
620 grams
understandable
Apple Brainwash xD
yeah thats what you get when you buy fancy lenses
Kinda of a hassle
I paid 571 after tax (tax is like 10% here)
because I went to a tamron verified seller I got 150 off
The Nikon p1000 is front heavy and it has no mount on the front its at the very back
Here’s a good photo i took with the Sigma 16mm f1.4 lens
the camera itself is 395 grams so I feel that pain
The lens would just slowly pan downwards if you let go of it
I tried with multiple tripods
You would have to DIY something
ulanzi jj06 gang!!!!
I got mine for 15usd at a goodwill
If you're in US there is some people making custom solutions for it
casual 300 dollar tripod btw
Here’s another nice one
I paid a lot for my manfrotto
I think I should sell it?
I live in phoenix so all I get is desert and more desert
how much?
Oof
I’m in Norway
LUCKY
Norway is a beautiful country
while we are on general camera gear, what are yalls bags?
I would love to take photos with infrared filters, I was always impressed by them
All i have is a sturdy tripod i bought on amazon
Its worth it
I lug this thing with my everywhere and it hurts alot
but I have no regrets
Noice
its kinda overpriced though
I got mine on sale for 160
discounting all I've added to it
Should I use Fresync or g sync on second monitor?
I asked my dad for a camera bag for christmas since idk what else i want lol
I basically have all the tech i want atm.
you need to pick a road, are you going team sling?
Clarify a little?
there are 2 types of bags that go on your back
hope someone could help me with my pc build
sling bags or 2 strap
Oh wait i know what you mean
where do i connect the aio cable too?
mines a sling bag and while I no longer have a spine..... it can just swing around to your front to access all your gear
no setting down your bag or straining to hold it infront of you
I love backpacks. But also they take up more room and i just got a new backpack for my bday so… idk. I’ll let my dad decide
All i said is Camera Bag
He has a Canon camera himself so should know what to look for
you should really think about it because if your bags too heavy it might significantly worsen your experience... ask me how I know
xD
that d3 was REALLY nice... but... THE HEFT
Anyways what do you define as a telephoto lens? @night granite
y'all chat what do y'all think with the fibre router my brother has in his house rn
its 1300 grams without a lense
personally.... 250mm and over
K. I have been looking at some lenses over 200mm. But i also don’t wanna cheap out if i do eventually get one
whats your budget looking like?
I'd love to help
I’m in Norway so prices may differ but let’s say $600 - $1100
you might wanna try the lense I have honestly
the tamron 18-300
its 600 or so
Lemme check the pricing
make sure to check on the website its the right one, tamron has like 3 VERY similar lenses
its REALLY great
you can check youtube for reviews
I do not have a singular complaint other than it not having an mf-af switch
the af is wicked fast and silent if you care
This one’s correct?
yes
let me find the image of how close it can focus
The only thing is that it prob doesn’t have OIS. And my camera doesn’t have IBIS which means i’ll need fast shutter or a tripod
That’s crazy
it has stabilization
It has? That’s a fantastic deal then
IK
It’s between this and the Sony 11mm f1.8
and to think (before taxes) I paid 520
Like which i get first
you said you dont have a real long focal length lense, so I'd go with the 18-300
Taking photos of the Northern Lights with 11mm (16.5mm) would be amazing. But at the same time during daytime, a good telephoto is also really nice to have
'keep in mind, since its apsc, that 18-300 is 27-450 full frame equivalent
Also since it’s APSC, the 300mm turns into like 450mm
yes
Pretty sick
I WAS going to just use the original 50-250 kit lense with the z50 but then the guy at the shop I was at showed me the tamron 18-300
I do not think I would enjoy photography NEARLY as much if I used the kit lense
out of curiosity, what you start with?
I think my first lense was a nikon 28-200 or something close, it was on a d50
And i don’t regret getting it as a first lens
no, 18-200
my fault
I have been zoom lense since day 1 and have no regrets either
I am also thinking about getting a new “gaming” chair. Prob an ergo chair. But for my gaming setup
Was looking at the Fractal Refine
try to avoid those racing seat ones
NOT worth the hype
looks pretty good imo
Also i do know about the awful chairs
I'd try to feel it up in person first if you can
Been following Linus and others for a very long time
I'm sitting in a kitchen chair :/
oof..
yeah its ROUGH
Oh thats sick
you see where my budget went lol
first NPU build
Does it atleast have back support or is it more like a stool?
it has a metal back support
Better than nothing i guess
the kind that leaves a line in your back
It does nothing 😢
it does for AI
True
and I run LLMs
you wanna hear a funny camera related story?
I had npu for a few years
There is absolutely zero application I found that uses the NPU
And the llm models don't even have support for npu yet
Maybe copilot can use it?
I think Copilot might use it. My dad’s laptop also has an NPU and i think it was used in Task Manager
I was looking on facebook marketplace for a camera one day, found a canon m200 with a efs adapter and a 24mm, he said "150usd doesnt take photos or record", I got there, it worked, he seems kinda upset and held through the deal, thats how I got into mirrorless
absolute steal if you know what that camera is worth
I think npu is mostly a marketing gimmick
Its not the models thats the issue, its the software for running them

Btw is RTX 50 even selling well. The GPU prices are prob the lowest i’ve ever seen in Norway atleast
The cheapest RTX 4070 back in 2022/2023 cost like $790 here.
The cheapest RTX 5070 is like $550 now
I mean for brand new
You can't buy anything else from nvidia
yah but this post is a year old
9060xt gang
AI has been moving fast
Atm i’m waiting on AMD, Intel and NVIDIA to release next gen before i upgrade anything
I got in at the right time
Intel Nova Lake, Ryzen something, RTX 60
I bought this pc about 2 months ago
52 core consumer CPUs, the next generation is awesome
Yes, it got even more hard to run, bigger models with bigger parameters
While the NPUs were never capable of doing much
not really, 70B is the most youll need
I want a core for every minor task
I dont care about instability if it has such performance
Give windows update a core
Give print spooler a core
Give MS Paint a core!
I wish to dedicate 12 cores to discord 🫡
And you need 48gb minimum of ram
each handle needs a core
Ram is slower than vram
you only offload whatever doesnt fit on the VRAM btw
Rn i have the Intel Core i5-13600k (14 core)
Very satisfied so far. After a few years of use
I think npu will be great when we get actual npu cards
I dont have that issue :P
Not some small ass chip inside a CPU
Atm even with X3D CPU’s i don’t see it as a big enough upgrade to.. well upgrade..
dedotated wam
X3d if you do gaming
I don’t do just gaming
nerd
I also do DaVinci Resolve Studio 20, Lightroom and other stuff
we love davinci resolve
And also electrical engineering
its so weird running the newest intel CPU on a HDD
its like, slow, but not slow, but also pretty slow
I switched to it from Vegas, cause i think Vegas used to be better back when Sony owned it and now it’s Magix and it only gets complaints
oh wait thats sick
Then you want a 9950X3D
Too expensive. I am not really interested in the top end
Ryzen AI 9 HX 375 has the best npu in the world
I can afford an RTX 5090, but choose not to get it
It only gets you 5-10 tokens per second with a 30b model
My target for a new CPU is prob gonna be like $400 whenever i do end up upgrading
Can afford a 5090. Says a 9950X3D is too expensive 
remember how with the new GPUs NVIDIA was comparing AI performance between different settings as if they were the same?
Gemma 2 27b or qwen 32b
The financial decision making people are coming in here with lately blows my mind
I can also afford the 9950X3D but don’t wanna spend that much money on not a lot of gain
How do I know where to place my reset switch when I have neither the manual, or online manual </3
My only clue is that the JFP1 header is where I place my power switch
Is it for work max?
I don’t target highest end hardware even if i can afford it.
Nah, personal gaming rig.
what floating-point
Ah okay then fair enough
Yeah now point buying more than what you need, I did the same
For example the Radeon 880m (igpu) will easily beat the npu of 9 hx 375
So npu IMO Is a waste of silicon
does the 9hx375 not have an iGPU on top of that
Just use that wasted silicon to make the cpu or GPU better
Let’s say i have a $3000 budget for a gaming setup.
I’ll spend prob only around $1800 on the PC, $400 on a Monitor, $200 on accessories and rest is savings
Yes
I don’t rent, i’m planning on buying a place instead in the coming years.
I have some questions that I wont ask
That's what I'm saying why waste silicon on the npu when you can make an already good alternative even better
oh damn, i remember these now
~$200,000 for a decent 50m2 appartment here in Norway
what's the other port called? like the wire is RJ11 to?
thats just 2400?
For example the npu in the ai 9 is equivalent with a mobile 3050 6gb
It has the same int8 performance
$600 that i can prob use for other stuff like a new Telephoto lens 
But I'm reality the 3050 is faster in practice because of CUDA
I love CUDA
And 3050 mobile isn't really that powerful
it just confuses me why you add that into the budget if its not related
big fan of the 3050 here
ok but look at the size difference bro
5050 gets too much hate
Well it would by default just go into a savings account for a future upgrade
Waste of silicon
No one uses it, could be redirected into making the cpu better
I’ve never actually bought anything higher than a 70 class card
Its just marketing
i'd prefer the GPU but sure
I could never comprehend doing such either
a 9060xt is already crazy high for me
You can slap a sticker on the laptop saying it has 55 tops, top tier ai performance
i definitely think they should focus NPU tech into the iGPU and not worry about separate NPU chips
Thing is… once upon a time, i moved from an NVIDIA MX250 to an RTX 4070
iGPU has been on a roll and this is going to slow it down a ton
Well tho I don't think for GPUs they will name it npu
if igpus get good enough I'm making a teeny tiny mini pc
NVIDIA on the 5000 series already added a lot of specific chips aimed to improve neural performance
Remember the comparison they did with 4000 and 5000 series cards
I technically own a 4070
oh shit the 285k has an Arc as the iGPU?
I’m still on said 4070
apparently comparable to a GTX 1050 Ti
igpus use ram as vram yeah?
Yes
is it that simple or are there drawbacks?
5070 is just more power draw for not a lot of gain and 5080 is a space warmer, a really expensive card and prob gonna be irrelevant by the time we get the next node shift
But it means you can also upgrade it
DRAM is slower than VRAM
The new iGPUs are a really strong
I would upgrade to a 5070 if my current GPU was an RTX 2070 which it’s not
But, IE a 32GB build with the ultra 9 285k means the iGPU has got 18GB shared memory
2 GB VRAM, 16GB DRAM
If you set it auto mode or whatever it’s called
You can change the values in the bios I think
I mean most steamdeck type decides use igpu, and those are very popular right now
You can emulate GTA 5 with quite good performance on android smartphones
I’m about to run a steel nomad benchmark on my 285k
how noticeably?
is there a way to see my stats at all time in MSI afterburner?
Like not only in games
OSD
You mean the OSD while on desktop?
yeah
Multiples
so it would be worse than a 1050ti?
IE DDR5 6000MT/s has a max bandwidth of 96GB/s in dual channel, 4060 VRAM bandwidth is almost 272GB/s
48gbps per pin compared to 6gbps
Gddr7 vs ddr5
Why is amd rt performance so bad
How fast in terms of GB/s are super overclocked RAM sticks? Like 10,000MT/s
It’s very close on dual channel
so if I wait for ddr6 I can have gddr6 performance? (assuming the timings are the same)
The ryzen ai Max 395+ has a igpu equivalent to mobile 4070
1050Ti VRAM can do 112GB/s, if you compare to 32GB (2x16) DDR5 at 6000MT/s it’s 96GB/s
So it’s pretty close
Ddr6 is double ddr5 so 12Gbps per pin
Is DDR6 even rumored atm? Any progress on that?
I havent heard anyhting for a while
I don't have a exe there
Gddr6 is 12-16 gbps
Am6 will release on ddr6 for sure
I do not expect low prices for DDR6 tho. Since DDR5 5200MHz was also quite expensive at launch
10k MT/s dual channel gear 1 is 320GB/s
Am5 ends support in 2027
oof. Well it was worth a shot with Copilot lol
I"m just thinking ahead, if I ever travel outside of the states, or even inside the states on a plane, I want to build a pc that can fit in my camera bag, so no dedicated gpu
Undoubtly
got the top end "nokia" phone because i got annoyed by the damaged screen
haha
now time to buy some protectors
I prefered Intel’s aproach to DDR5. Have LGA1700 support both in a way
Yah that was cool
I agree
hi
I had that with my 13900kf for a while
I hope they and AMD do the same with DDR6
got a new laptop
DDR4 then upgraded to 5 (with mobo obviously)
I'd argue for super low budgets (before the ram issue atleast) getting an lga 1700 ddr4 board was better than am4
12100f is stupid cheap
I think DDR5 6000MHz should work fine enough through the years of RAMMAGEDDON
It has to be screwed on?
Unsure it's still in prototype stage
Start of mass adoption after 2027
Ofc it’s G.Skill haha
I also hope Intel Nova Lake gets revealed at CES 2026. Like actual performance
I love them
honestly, I trust amd to make an AMAZING igpu for am6
Wait for AI generated math, will increase performance by 10x
Ddr5 in our desktop computer's are dimm
Atm its just leaks and rumors but 18A architecture could be cool
I'm running g.skill ripjaws 2x16 6000 right now
I got their 2x48gb kits
My brain is a calculator. That’s all i need
Oh maybe they’ll keep it that way, I prefer this tbh
I am unsure if ddr6 is going to even use dimm slots
Sell half and make some epic profit 🫶
you are forgetting one thing........... dimm looks cooler
Have you seen one without the plastic on it
That’s the one thing i never really liked about Norwegian schools. You don’t get full points in math if you don’t show how it’s done. Even if the result is correct, you lose points. My brain does math not logic
Though I can't see how you would install multiple ram sticks with camm2
I have a 4x16 ddr4 vengence kit.... I will make my bands.....
It’s boring af, you can just slap plastic on the camm2 bam it’s cool
LOL 🔥
I love that
I kinda forgot about CAMM2 but hope it arrives sometime soon to the masses and replaces DIMM
Still cheaper than my next driving lesson…
Hell yeah
$650 xD
I paid 40 bucks for it about 6 months ago
So how would Linus tech tips would be different if they were in US instead of Canada?
How much are you paying for driving lessons 😭
In Norway… the average cost is stupid
I believe space and orientation would be a bit of a problem, like where do you put half a chocolate bar on the motherboard
That is nuts
Mine are about 85 AUD each
going from vertical to horizontal just looks and feels weird, spacewise
Seems like camm2 is a single stick of memory which is 128bit bus dual channel
You can almost convert 40,000NOK to $4000
can't you just go to an open place like a parking lot and practice
So it’s kinda easy to understand
thats espensive
$4k for driving lessons is wild
Yeah you can do that but! There are obligatory driving lessons you have to take
Epic profit
just go drive around the cemetery, thats what I did
honestly looks like a lot of wasted space, everything is cramped everywhere else
It’s the driving instructor that has to give the green light for when you can actually order a driving test. You cannot order a driving exam before you’ve gone through all the learning stuff with the instructor
thats dumb
We all are screwed somewhere in our country
idk, this is my take to someone else it might look normal
That’s how Norway works
What are you going to use the space for
where I am, you take the test whenever, if you fail well, too bad and you have to retake
you have to pass the written before the driving
well I say written but its on computers
Yup
that's.... weird what if i had an old expired license or someone's dad teaches them how to drive
Then you’d prob only need to take a driving test
I hope they stack them atop eachother
If you had a lisence before
Here you also have to do a minimum amount of driving lessons and for the instructor to green light you
anything else?? as i said my view is that everything's cramped up elsewhere, maybe others see it differently
wait this iGPU is actually fire
like with current SODIMM? yea i should hope so too though that would kill any chance of lq cooling
In general, i think it’s harder to get a drivers lisence in Europe than it is in the US or some Asian countries
what if someone else teaches you, if you know everything do you still have to take all the normal classes or if he observes you know everything in 1 class he just lets you do it
no, like vertically
Yeah you still have to take obligatory driving lessons with the instructor
Its fine what else would you add
Its not lost space if there is nothing to fill that space with
Private driving doesn’t really get registered in the National Driving Database. Driving with instructor does
fair point
I'm sure micro atx will still be possible on ddr6
And it is only the instructor that can order some of the obligatory tests!!!
oh. maybe then
Regular driving lessons i can order myself. But obligatory ones, the ones that progress you twoards the driving exam, those are controlled by the instructor here
The only thing that I am surprised about is that we are going from being able to use 2 or 4 sticks to only one
You can't just buy more ram now
You have to sell your current stick and get a new one
that is mad tbh. like I should be able to take the test w/o classes, it'd be understandable still if it was like 2 tries and then you need an instructor
That’s Norway xD
Oh and also you need an approved car for the Exam aswell which can be quite expensive
The easiest way is to just rent the car from the driving school. So $330 here
Apparently enterprise or workstation motherboards might have stackable camm2
Too many rules
Also there are a ton of Teslas and EV’s in Norway for context
no driving aids makes sense, but seriously an approved car list
that is absolutely diabolical
Every other car you see here is an EV.
But the car you drive with the instructor is typically a hybrid
Camm2 takes roughly 3 dim slots @swift thorn
Considering a lot of motherboards even micro atx comes with 4 dim slots

Ofc there is a heatshield
You need pedals also on the passenger side @swift thorn
Looks standard for eu
In america I recall the driving license is easier to get because in most states you can't function without a car
Very bad public infrastructure for transportation
So If you make driving licenses hard to get people won't be able to get shit done
time to undervolt the 285k
That's what I heard at least
til you see dell's implementation of this and just go "no"
I have undervolted my 13600k and it runs at like 140 watts under Cinebench load
5.1GHz all core
Can't find
By default it’s like 170 watts
the "how to be a pig exam" ?
xD
if you don't screw it down correctly, it's lga1700 issues all over again
Lmao
hard drive moment
This server will be fun when camm2 becomes mainstream
LGA1700 
remember if you don't screw down lga1700 correctly, you either lose ram channels, usb or cause the pins to spread over and possibly kill parts
or they're trying to figure out how many standards it needs
Four standards. JEDEC/XMP/EXPO/LTT Overclocking
i mean thats the case with ddr5 atm aswell. 4 sticks basically cannot be run at 6000mt atm
It can be
Apparently servers will still use dimm
tbf, servers do need 128gb+
more space efficient while slower. but servers mostly dont need the speed
they need the bandwidth, and depending on what's being done, yes they may need the speed
ive never seen task manager show over 100% CPU usage until now
bandwidth yes, is also better with dimms but speed almost never unless for very niche needs
<@&750150305383186585> bitcoin scam
I just reslotted my ram but the lamps are still on :(
Never mind the red one just turned off
And my screens are on now
That’s weird
POV you're an IaaS compute service overprovisioning your machines
107%
thats the highest ive seen it hit
108
under over 100% load
thats not bad temps at all
just AIO, nothing else
but I doubt if you have an AIO extra case fans would help
max 232W
The X870E AORUS XTREME looks sick
Best get it a doctor
Turn the iGPU off
Purpose of that zip tie at the top?
im using it
i think it held two led cables togehter but theyve clearly seperated lmao
Yikes
Environmentally friendly pc
nothing super important just cable managment
It’s a very loose zip tie to begin with
Against a database of XOC it’s not to be a surprise
yeah idk i built it over a year ago and havent payed super hard attention to the cables since then lol, just fixing stuff when it needs fixing
should probably figure my cables out later but rn i need to work lmao
im comparing to cpu-monkeys benchmarks, I thought they average
he's only on OC not XOC
Yeah I thought he’d be doing like 3dmark
does 3dmark have a free cpu benchmark?
if this is r24 then that's not a low score tbh
pcmark, 3dmarks other one for doing cpu/storage
for now**
yes, I will be back in 9 days and the extreme RAM OC will begin
it's not extreme til you hit 13,000+ mt/s
It is when u running 4 dimms
current highest is somewhere between 12500 and 13000 mt/s, last time i checked
Not menacing at all
Living room pc setup with no peripherals
just gonna leave it like that until im back lol
Random question, do i upgrade my FE 3060 ti this year or do i have time to wait? With prices skyrocketing, Idk if i should take the money i was gonna use for new peripherals and buy a new gpu or wait
what prices skyrocketing?
Dram prices
i thought its just RAM
its everything
might be able to snag a 5070 for cheap on newegg tmr
oh the 3060ti is cheaper than I thought mb
But i have a i7 12700k and 3060ti so i was thinking of a 5070 or rx 9060xt
i didnt buy it
i got it from a family member who had it collecting dust in his basement
Im sorry, newegg is not my jam unless i really need it
id rather buy off amazon or buy it used of MBPC
because of the old videos about it?
no
if its personal experience then I get it, but its not as bad as it used to be when those videos were coming out
i was building my pc this year and they sent me a broken psu which probably wasnt their fault but im still paranoid
they have pretty good bundles thats why i like them
id see that
i paired a bundle last week with a paypal deal, ultra 9 285k, z890c gaming x wifi7, free AIO, for $750 after tax, minus 20% so came out to be like $580 with my CC cash back
best deal ive ever gotten on pc parts excluding full builds
we all start somewhere
Ik
if youre old enough (18), you might be able to get 20% cash back using paypals deal, if you order within the next 3 days
should give you a bigger budget but spend the same amount
I have a 12700k, 3060ti, z790 pro rs wifi, montech xr, and hyper 212 cooler plus 32gb ddr5 6000mhz for under $700
yah thats about what I had, less ram a bit better gpu, had 16gb ddr4 13600kf with a 3070ti
So i really only need a new GPU and SSD
yah, dont worry about cpu
Ik
i got it for $150
best purchase of my life
is the ultra series worth it?
You said ultra 9 but would a 14900k be better?
I’m pretty sure the ultra 9 is better, but I think it’s more efficient
for AI tasks yeah but benchmarks say no
IIRC the 13th and 14th gens pull a lot more power
I just ran cinebench r24 it’s faster
It is?
Water cooling isn’t hard with an AIO
I did it like less than 12 hours ago
the #1 spot on cinebench is 14900k and 5090
yeah true
I think single core is faster too
Ig you never OC that much when gaming tho
My daily driver is 5 android versions behind this idiot from 2012
💀
My AE is frozen and I cant close it in task manager even lmao
Thats one old ass samsung
S3
My daily driver is a Huawei nova 3
this is like from 2016 or what lol
oh
Type shit
2012
Read please
2012
mb
Yo does cinebench like do anything to my hdd
Ik this is a dumb question
but my hdd is from 2007 and its ready to blow
just dont use that man
Why do you even have that
Dont ask questions
some of us cant drop $100 on an ssd whenever
I spent all my money on my parts and forgot my ssd
love ur pfp btw
$57 for 1TB
so i had to take an hdd out of my parents old vista pc
Saving for a DRAM ssd
I mean i have a hard drive from like 1995 (1.56gb original quantum fireball) buy i don't actually use it, i just have one in a drawer
bro
I don't either
wdym
has anyone here ever had that thing where ur GPU fans would go max RPM and monitor would not recieve signal
oh ive gotten that where the monitor freezes
?
ANd ur GPU fans go max rpm?
Howd u fix it?
wtf happened to SSD prices
One day you will wake up, turn it on, only to see
4060
they almost doubled
up $20 in 2 wks
my dram ssd was $70 in sept
its now 100
Brand?
