#tech-chat-1

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cold skiff
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One does not simply ever, get out of Linux.

rigid fjord
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using the wrong flavour i guess

cold skiff
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Once you’re a Vegan equivalent for an OS you will always stay that way

night granite
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nix was my first linux experience

cold skiff
night granite
rigid fjord
rigid fjord
sleek ibex
plush wren
random gyro
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trump or obama 🔥 (non political)

sleek ibex
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Should we call a wellness check on Linus?

ionic peak
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call him after 3k hours

lapis talon
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Are there any microphones similar to the Quadcast S?

night granite
azure topaz
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idk i paid 250$ for mine

night granite
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I mean, personally, I underload the SHIT out of my cpu

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it sits at like 30c and I dont want it any higher

azure topaz
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this time

night granite
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so I dont need such power as a nicer mobo would provide

night granite
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then when it came time to get mine, there were none

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so I got the b series

azure topaz
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L

night granite
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I mean, not like it matters, yet again, I do NOT need such qualities

livid fern
night granite
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under 100% extreme stress my cpu gets to like 47c because I've neutered it

rigid fjord
livid fern
night granite
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does tech chat yap about cameras ever? I'm not in here too often so I wouldnt know

thorny saddle
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LOL this is funny

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whoopsie TPU!

peak swan
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Huawei liquid glass
P9 lite mini is the model
All stock too

rigid fjord
rigid fjord
tacit star
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Will fans connected to this splitter work as 3-or 4-pin?

rigid fjord
tacit star
rigid fjord
rigid fjord
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how the spliter and some basic fan hubs are wired up

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the more slightly fancier powered hubs

warm saddle
round scaffold
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Would you guys recommend me installing the aio onto motherboard before putting it in the case or after putting it in the case

wheat torrent
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Its so dense

tacit star
frigid blade
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Guys do you think this is a good deal for my buddy? I’m upgrading my build and selling my old parts in a bundle, 13900kf, z790-c, it’s some B tier PSU that ran my 4090, AIO, 32gb ddr5 6000 RAM, for $650?

tacit star
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Should I leave it like this?

frigid blade
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The main discount is im not charging anywhere close to market value for the RAM

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$100

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Idrc about it, I’ve had it for years (not used)

tacit star
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Should the CPU fans be in auto or PWM mode, also how about smart fan?

frigid blade
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PSU gives them an upgrade path for the GPU, 13900kf should be competitive for a while

tacit star
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I completely disregard DC

rigid fjord
rigid fjord
frigid blade
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I thought so, I’m trying not to go too low but I think it’s OK for used

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And then idk what to do with the case

wheat torrent
frigid blade
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Yah that’s how I priced it

wheat torrent
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50 aio
80 ram (not the current prices)

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I mean it seems like you're offering him a eBay priced deal

rigid fjord
wheat torrent
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Except without the RAM price spike

wheat torrent
rigid fjord
frigid blade
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I have no clue, one sec

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It’s iBuyPower branded

wheat torrent
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I think it should be a decent deal DANger

frigid blade
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It’s a pre built I bought on eBay for a bargain at the time

rigid fjord
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because ibuypower likes to do this kinda shit

frigid blade
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Well at least they’re not buying like completely shit ones

rigid fjord
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do you not know of the master leakers?

frigid blade
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No

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Thankfully, this one has been running fine for like

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A lot of years

rigid fjord
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cooler master aio's, ML line nicknamed as masterleakers because the pipes broke and leaked

frigid blade
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lol

winter swift
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YO

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WTF ARE THESE PRICES

frigid blade
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4 dimm kits probably even worse because there’s so little of them in the first place

rigid fjord
frigid blade
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5600 only too, lol

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Would most 5400 kits OC to 6000 easily?

winter swift
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depends on manufacturer idk?

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all i can say is i can kiss my pc build goodbye

rigid fjord
# frigid blade 5600 only too, lol

with ddr5 people should only get a pair of sticks, and for the better part 5200-5600 is the likely speeds you get with manual tuining using 4 sticks in most cases

frigid blade
rigid fjord
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i could only see it being viable for the likes of threadripper

winter swift
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didnt even know ts was possible

frigid blade
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you never saw the 4 slots on a motherboard?

rigid fjord
latent pasture
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buy x3d cpu to compensate beardLinusKappa

winter swift
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tbf i was mostly look on itx and matx boards

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but hold on

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why do i lose speed with more ram slots?

tawny fossil
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Here are my upgrade options from 3050 75w 6gb
5700xt
Rx 6600
Rtx 3060

frigid blade
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6000 is the goal

latent pasture
tawny fossil
frigid blade
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Oh yah @azure topaz forgot to tell you we gotta postpone 9 days

tawny fossil
tawny fossil
latent pasture
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5050 is out

tawny fossil
frigid blade
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5060 sold for $200 on newegg a few days ago

rigid fjord
frigid blade
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That’s JEDEC default minimum or something

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At least that’s what mine run at

rigid fjord
frigid blade
tawny fossil
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5050 is being sold at retailers for 14k egp
5700xt is being sold secondhand for around 9k egp at local stores
6700xt is being sold secondhand for around
14-15k egp
3060 is being sold for around 12k egp (12gb version)
Rx 6600 is being sold for around 10k egp
Sidenote 1k egp = 20$

frigid blade
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I wanna hit that 6k

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5070 OC is getting a door buster deal on Newegg soon @tawny fossil

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Might wanna wait and see what it is

tawny fossil
frigid blade
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9070xt is also getting a door buster deal in 2 days on Newegg

latent pasture
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the rtx 5050 ur getting is literally 4060 perf

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and 8gb vram

frigid blade
tawny fossil
tawny fossil
latent pasture
tawny fossil
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So it is automatically disqualified

latent pasture
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has rx 9060 non xt gotten to ur location yet

tawny fossil
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Rx 9060xt at MSRP is a possible option at the end of the year if they start selling them for msrp

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Or near msrp

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18-20k egp

frigid blade
tawny fossil
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But I am not so sure but I am kinda sure that the 6700xt has better preformance than the 9060xt

latent pasture
tawny fossil
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Rx 7600 is disqualified for being the same price as the 5060

latent pasture
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yes in game

frigid blade
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What benchmarks are you looking at?

latent pasture
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if you wanna play the "uhhh but in this 1 game 4060 is 30% better"
then i can bring you a bunch of games where rtx 4060 ti is 200% better than rx 7900xtx

cold skiff
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If you can get a 6700xt cheaper, just get that tbh

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If you can get the 9060xt 16gb* cheaper - get that

latent pasture
tawny fossil
cold skiff
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6700xt probably 5fps or average slower tbh

tawny fossil
cold skiff
tawny fossil
cold skiff
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You’re not seriously going to buy a 5050

latent pasture
tawny fossil
latent pasture
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people absolutely devour the youtube thumbnails of waaah any rtx 40 and 50 bad waaah 😭😭 dont buy avoid at all costs waaah 😭😭

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without even thinking that prices are different for some people

tawny fossil
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That's why I am happy with my 12100f but I am selling the cpu and motherboard which will cover the price of a 13400f and I will get a b760 for an extra hundred dollars

latent pasture
tawny fossil
tawny fossil
cold skiff
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This is the massive performance bracket you’re considering. If you buy a 5050 and you’re also considering a 9060xt 16gb - you’re stupid.

latent pasture
tawny fossil
tawny fossil
cold skiff
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It’s way better than the ewaste you said you would buy

latent pasture
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id sooner say buy a cheap usb splitter than revamp ur entire setup

tawny fossil
latent pasture
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thats 3

tawny fossil
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You forgot the microphone

latent pasture
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then thats 4
what else did u want to plug in

tawny fossil
tawny fossil
latent pasture
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usb dongle is like 150 egb

tawny fossil
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It's only going to be a 100$ or 5000egp difference to get a new motherboard and a 13400f

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The 13400f will help me do some things I want to do as well

latent pasture
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the lower end u are, the more every bit can contribute to a huge upgrade

jovial swan
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in todays european market how much would my pc go for if i was to sell?
Ryzen 7 7700
asus TUF a620-plus
32 GB kingston fury DDR5
1 TB MSI M371 SSD
gigabyte windforce RTX 4070
650 watt deepcool pk650D PSU
azza spectra case

tawny fossil
tawny fossil
cold skiff
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I just got warshipped for short handing @tawny fossil name 🤦‍♂️

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Warship even changes to your actual discord handle

tawny fossil
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@tawny fossil

latent pasture
tawny fossil
latent pasture
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the "good enough cpu" threshold is much easier to achieve in most workloads than gpu

cold skiff
tawny fossil
cold skiff
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Yeah KEKW

tawny fossil
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I see

latent pasture
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these are 'mid tier' 70 series gpus and u can see even going as old as 9th gen or zen2 (both of which worse than 12100f btw) one can argue u arent losing much perf

tawny fossil
tawny fossil
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For the price

night granite
tawny fossil
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Lga 1700 my beloved

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Lga 1700 is better than am5 objectively interms of value

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I know you guys love Nvidia but come on

lapis talon
arctic furnace
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Can anyone help me with this??

latent pasture
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ye that 32gb ram is gold now

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rather you not get rid of it

lapis talon
arctic furnace
cold skiff
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LGA 1718 is the real hero

latent pasture
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wat

lapis talon
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As long as SO DIMM laptop ram doesn't skyrocket in prices

arctic furnace
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How cooked am i?

lapis talon
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I bought a Quadcast S microphone instead of a ram stick for my laptop

cold skiff
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And PGA1331 is the GOAT socket

night granite
tawny fossil
lapis talon
night granite
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I have a 12700kf

cold skiff
night granite
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its been fun

tawny fossil
night granite
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I've heard really good things

latent pasture
night granite
lapis fog
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Anyone able to take a look at my parts list make sure everything looks good? Not really looking for any optimizations just making sure everything is compatible and makes sense

latent pasture
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12100f to 14100f r all 4c8t 12th gen cpu
the difference is like going from 4.1 4.2 4.3ghz
basically get whatevers cheapest

tawny fossil
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@latent pasture so realestically I'll have 12000 egp or 240$ to upgrade
I might do a slight upgrade to the 5700xt

latent pasture
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so thats another -point to that

night granite
tawny fossil
lapis talon
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The Ryzen 7 260 in my legion 5, does it have separate efficiency and performance cores?

latent pasture
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bruh u can google that

lapis talon
night granite
latent pasture
lapis talon
frigid blade
latent pasture
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cuz its old

lapis talon
latent pasture
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its the same 7840hs from 2(?) years ago

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its not like 8c16t zen4 is bad lol thats still very good

night granite
frigid blade
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@lapis talon wait till nova lake

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There’s gonna be a new core type

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Gonna blow your mind

indigo bay
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AI haters keep taking the L

latent pasture
night granite
frigid blade
tawny fossil
night granite
frigid blade
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Low power I think

tawny fossil
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This is my humble setup

frigid blade
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Like super slow cores just for background stuff

night granite
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one sec

tawny fossil
latent pasture
tawny fossil
indigo bay
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can someone explain to my why you get so triggered when someone even uses ai in a discussion not about it

like you cant even dare stand to be in its presence and derail an entire discussion to moan

it is because most of you are failed artists and it doesn’t what you do in second?

the newest models can now replicate any style, any idea, in a good res

night granite
frigid blade
indigo bay
tawny fossil
frigid blade
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16P, 32E, 4LP

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52 core consumer cpu btw lol

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150W tho

night granite
frigid blade
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Yah it’s not a lot, but it’s base

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Who knows what they’re actually gonna use

night granite
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what socket? new socket or the first ultra socket?

frigid blade
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New

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It’s in the pic, 1954

night granite
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I'm SO pumped to spent 500 dollars on an itx board the second it comes out

frigid blade
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I think rn it’s 1851?

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I just put mine together last night

night granite
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in hindsight, I shoulda got an ultra 3

frigid blade
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If you get the flagship you’ll have 52 cores

night granite
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that new ultra 7 is looking REALLY good

frigid blade
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I need a new phone

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This camera is booty

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High end pc with low end phone perfect match

night granite
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idk how they call this "budget"

frigid blade
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I have a 12 mini

night granite
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I chose the 16e because its the same size as the se

frigid blade
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The age is starting to catch up to it

night granite
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I just want the oled and usbc

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couldnt care bout the ecosystem or the processor

frigid blade
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I have this phone because it was the oldest that supported 5G

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That’s the only reason

night granite
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what are the camera specs?

frigid blade
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No clue

night granite
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I'm still a little pissed my new one has over double the MP that my fancy mirrorless camera has

frigid blade
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I go by dookie and not dookie

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Not actual specs

dark knoll
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does any one have any mechanical keyboard recommendations for around 100$

wheat torrent
night granite
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I used to use a 12mp nikon d3 happily

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a camera from 2008 btw

jolly phoenix
night granite
wheat torrent
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Smartphone companies when they turn 12mp into 100mp

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I would love to own a hasslebald h60 (400mp) camera

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It has a 100 mp sensor but it physically moves it 4 times when taking a picture

night granite
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This is my current for context

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nikon z50 with the tamron 18-300 that released for z mount 2 months ago

wheat torrent
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I sold my Nikon and bought a 4090

night granite
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what camera?

wheat torrent
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I was using the Nikon few times per year

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I use my 4090 every day

wheat torrent
night granite
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but then I decided interchanging lenses was too important to me

wheat torrent
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Its nice but

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Its a phone sized camera with a huge lens

night granite
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I mean, I love huge lenses

wheat torrent
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If you know what it can do and what it can't beforehand then you won't be disappointed

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Lots of people shit on it because they didn't research properly

simple dagger
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AOC OLED 280hz cheaper than 32GB RAM ._.

night granite
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if we are talking full frame equivalents, this is a 450mm lense

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I love telephoto

wheat torrent
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Obligatory moon photo

night granite
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I find it very enjoyable to walk up to people and zoom in all the way

simple dagger
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What camera you guys have?

night granite
wheat torrent
night granite
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with a 18-300 3.5-6.3

simple dagger
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I have the Sony A6400

night granite
frigid blade
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Now I know what people who don’t know anything about computers hear when they listen to me talk about them

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No clue what any of this gibberish is

simple dagger
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The Sigma 16mm f1.4 is atm my fav lens for basically everything

wheat torrent
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If I would ever get a camera I would be one to do photogrammetry

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So basically some big sensor and a lot of MP

night granite
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Who up zoomin they lense

simple dagger
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I’ve been also looking at getting an ultrawide for my camera. The Sony 11mm f1.8

wheat torrent
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How heavy?

simple dagger
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Atm the only telephoto lens i have is the Sony 18-105mm f4.0

night granite
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thats just zoom I'm pretty sure

simple dagger
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K then zoom lens

simple dagger
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I just assumed telephoto meant zoom lol

night granite
night granite
wheat torrent
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Wow that's not too heavy

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Mine was 1400 grams

simple dagger
night granite
wheat torrent
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Kinda of a hassle

night granite
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I paid 571 after tax (tax is like 10% here)

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because I went to a tamron verified seller I got 150 off

wheat torrent
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The Nikon p1000 is front heavy and it has no mount on the front its at the very back

simple dagger
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Here’s a good photo i took with the Sigma 16mm f1.4 lens

night granite
wheat torrent
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The lens would just slowly pan downwards if you let go of it

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I tried with multiple tripods

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You would have to DIY something

night granite
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I got mine for 15usd at a goodwill

wheat torrent
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If you're in US there is some people making custom solutions for it

night granite
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casual 300 dollar tripod btw

simple dagger
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Here’s another nice one

wheat torrent
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I think I should sell it?

night granite
night granite
simple dagger
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I’m in Norway

night granite
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LUCKY

simple dagger
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Norway is a beautiful country

night granite
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while we are on general camera gear, what are yalls bags?

simple dagger
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Don’t have one yet

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Coming soon lol

wheat torrent
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I would love to take photos with infrared filters, I was always impressed by them

simple dagger
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All i have is a sturdy tripod i bought on amazon

wheat torrent
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Photos like this

night granite
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I lug this thing with my everywhere and it hurts alot

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but I have no regrets

simple dagger
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Noice

night granite
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its kinda overpriced though

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I got mine on sale for 160

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discounting all I've added to it

warm saddle
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Should I use Fresync or g sync on second monitor?

simple dagger
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I asked my dad for a camera bag for christmas since idk what else i want lol

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I basically have all the tech i want atm.

night granite
simple dagger
night granite
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there are 2 types of bags that go on your back

sage temple
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hope someone could help me with my pc build

night granite
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sling bags or 2 strap

simple dagger
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Oh wait i know what you mean

sage temple
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where do i connect the aio cable too?

night granite
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mines a sling bag and while I no longer have a spine..... it can just swing around to your front to access all your gear

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no setting down your bag or straining to hold it infront of you

simple dagger
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I love backpacks. But also they take up more room and i just got a new backpack for my bday so… idk. I’ll let my dad decide

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All i said is Camera Bag

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He has a Canon camera himself so should know what to look for

night granite
simple dagger
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xD

night granite
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that d3 was REALLY nice... but... THE HEFT

simple dagger
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Anyways what do you define as a telephoto lens? @night granite

fallow yacht
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y'all chat what do y'all think with the fibre router my brother has in his house rn

night granite
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its 1300 grams without a lense

night granite
simple dagger
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K. I have been looking at some lenses over 200mm. But i also don’t wanna cheap out if i do eventually get one

night granite
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I'd love to help

simple dagger
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I’m in Norway so prices may differ but let’s say $600 - $1100

night granite
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the tamron 18-300

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its 600 or so

simple dagger
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Lemme check the pricing

night granite
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make sure to check on the website its the right one, tamron has like 3 VERY similar lenses

simple dagger
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Tbh not too bad

night granite
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its REALLY great

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you can check youtube for reviews

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I do not have a singular complaint other than it not having an mf-af switch

simple dagger
night granite
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the af is wicked fast and silent if you care

simple dagger
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This one’s correct?

night granite
night granite
simple dagger
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The only thing is that it prob doesn’t have OIS. And my camera doesn’t have IBIS which means i’ll need fast shutter or a tripod

night granite
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thats how close it focuses for the record

simple dagger
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That’s crazy

simple dagger
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It has? That’s a fantastic deal then

night granite
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IK

simple dagger
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It’s between this and the Sony 11mm f1.8

night granite
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and to think (before taxes) I paid 520

simple dagger
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Like which i get first

night granite
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you said you dont have a real long focal length lense, so I'd go with the 18-300

simple dagger
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Taking photos of the Northern Lights with 11mm (16.5mm) would be amazing. But at the same time during daytime, a good telephoto is also really nice to have

night granite
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'keep in mind, since its apsc, that 18-300 is 27-450 full frame equivalent

simple dagger
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Also since it’s APSC, the 300mm turns into like 450mm

night granite
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yes

simple dagger
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Pretty sick

night granite
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I WAS going to just use the original 50-250 kit lense with the z50 but then the guy at the shop I was at showed me the tamron 18-300

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I do not think I would enjoy photography NEARLY as much if I used the kit lense

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out of curiosity, what you start with?

simple dagger
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I started out with the Sigma 16mm f1.4

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Just a prime lens

night granite
simple dagger
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And i don’t regret getting it as a first lens

night granite
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no, 18-200

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my fault

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I have been zoom lense since day 1 and have no regrets either

simple dagger
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I am also thinking about getting a new “gaming” chair. Prob an ergo chair. But for my gaming setup

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Was looking at the Fractal Refine

night granite
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NOT worth the hype

simple dagger
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This is the one i was looking at

night granite
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looks pretty good imo

simple dagger
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Also i do know about the awful chairs

night granite
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I'd try to feel it up in person first if you can

simple dagger
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Been following Linus and others for a very long time

night granite
simple dagger
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oof..

night granite
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yeah its ROUGH

frigid blade
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Oh thats sick

night granite
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you see where my budget went lol

frigid blade
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first NPU build

simple dagger
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Does it atleast have back support or is it more like a stool?

night granite
simple dagger
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Better than nothing i guess

night granite
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the kind that leaves a line in your back

wheat torrent
night granite
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it HURTS

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but I'd rather have what I have now than a chair

frigid blade
frigid blade
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and I run LLMs

night granite
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you wanna hear a funny camera related story?

wheat torrent
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I had npu for a few years

simple dagger
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I used to use my bed as my gaming chair xD

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I didn’t have a chair until like 2020

wheat torrent
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There is absolutely zero application I found that uses the NPU

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And the llm models don't even have support for npu yet

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Maybe copilot can use it?

simple dagger
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I think Copilot might use it. My dad’s laptop also has an NPU and i think it was used in Task Manager

night granite
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I was looking on facebook marketplace for a camera one day, found a canon m200 with a efs adapter and a 24mm, he said "150usd doesnt take photos or record", I got there, it worked, he seems kinda upset and held through the deal, thats how I got into mirrorless

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absolute steal if you know what that camera is worth

wheat torrent
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I think npu is mostly a marketing gimmick

frigid blade
wheat torrent
simple dagger
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Btw is RTX 50 even selling well. The GPU prices are prob the lowest i’ve ever seen in Norway atleast

simple dagger
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The cheapest RTX 4070 back in 2022/2023 cost like $790 here.

The cheapest RTX 5070 is like $550 now

wheat torrent
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You can't buy anything else from nvidia

frigid blade
night granite
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9060xt gang

frigid blade
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AI has been moving fast

simple dagger
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Atm i’m waiting on AMD, Intel and NVIDIA to release next gen before i upgrade anything

night granite
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I got in at the right time

simple dagger
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Intel Nova Lake, Ryzen something, RTX 60

night granite
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I bought this pc about 2 months ago

frigid blade
wheat torrent
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While the NPUs were never capable of doing much

frigid blade
simple dagger
night granite
simple dagger
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Give windows update a core
Give print spooler a core
Give MS Paint a core!

night granite
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I wish to dedicate 12 cores to discord 🫡

wheat torrent
frigid blade
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each handle needs a core

wheat torrent
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Ram is slower than vram

frigid blade
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you only offload whatever doesnt fit on the VRAM btw

simple dagger
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Rn i have the Intel Core i5-13600k (14 core)

Very satisfied so far. After a few years of use

wheat torrent
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I think npu will be great when we get actual npu cards

frigid blade
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I dont have that issue :P

wheat torrent
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Not some small ass chip inside a CPU

simple dagger
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Atm even with X3D CPU’s i don’t see it as a big enough upgrade to.. well upgrade..

frigid blade
#

dedotated wam

wheat torrent
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X3d if you do gaming

simple dagger
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I don’t do just gaming

frigid blade
#

nerd

simple dagger
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I also do DaVinci Resolve Studio 20, Lightroom and other stuff

night granite
simple dagger
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And also electrical engineering

frigid blade
#

its so weird running the newest intel CPU on a HDD

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its like, slow, but not slow, but also pretty slow

simple dagger
frigid blade
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oh wait thats sick

cold skiff
frigid blade
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the iGPU in here i forgot it shares the DRAM

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its got like 18GB shared

simple dagger
wheat torrent
#

Ryzen AI 9 HX 375 has the best npu in the world

simple dagger
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I can afford an RTX 5090, but choose not to get it

wheat torrent
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It only gets you 5-10 tokens per second with a 30b model

frigid blade
#

thats a lot

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but also what you said means nothing

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no model, no settings

simple dagger
#

My target for a new CPU is prob gonna be like $400 whenever i do end up upgrading

cold skiff
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Can afford a 5090. Says a 9950X3D is too expensive what

frigid blade
#

remember how with the new GPUs NVIDIA was comparing AI performance between different settings as if they were the same?

wheat torrent
cold skiff
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The financial decision making people are coming in here with lately blows my mind

simple dagger
kindred halo
#

How do I know where to place my reset switch when I have neither the manual, or online manual </3

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My only clue is that the JFP1 header is where I place my power switch

cold skiff
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Is it for work max?

simple dagger
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I don’t target highest end hardware even if i can afford it.

simple dagger
frigid blade
cold skiff
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Ah okay then fair enough

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Yeah now point buying more than what you need, I did the same

wheat torrent
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For example the Radeon 880m (igpu) will easily beat the npu of 9 hx 375

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So npu IMO Is a waste of silicon

frigid blade
wheat torrent
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Just use that wasted silicon to make the cpu or GPU better

simple dagger
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Let’s say i have a $3000 budget for a gaming setup.

I’ll spend prob only around $1800 on the PC, $400 on a Monitor, $200 on accessories and rest is savings

simple dagger
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I don’t rent, i’m planning on buying a place instead in the coming years.

night granite
wheat torrent
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That's what I'm saying why waste silicon on the npu when you can make an already good alternative even better

swift thorn
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oh damn, i remember these now

simple dagger
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~$200,000 for a decent 50m2 appartment here in Norway

swift thorn
#

what's the other port called? like the wire is RJ11 to?

simple dagger
wheat torrent
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For example the npu in the ai 9 is equivalent with a mobile 3050 6gb

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It has the same int8 performance

simple dagger
wheat torrent
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But I'm reality the 3050 is faster in practice because of CUDA

simple dagger
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I love CUDA

wheat torrent
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And 3050 mobile isn't really that powerful

night granite
night granite
frigid blade
night granite
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5050 gets too much hate

simple dagger
wheat torrent
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No one uses it, could be redirected into making the cpu better

simple dagger
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I’ve never actually bought anything higher than a 70 class card

wheat torrent
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Its just marketing

frigid blade
night granite
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a 9060xt is already crazy high for me

wheat torrent
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You can slap a sticker on the laptop saying it has 55 tops, top tier ai performance

frigid blade
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i definitely think they should focus NPU tech into the iGPU and not worry about separate NPU chips

wheat torrent
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Yes

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Agreed

simple dagger
frigid blade
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iGPU has been on a roll and this is going to slow it down a ton

wheat torrent
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Well tho I don't think for GPUs they will name it npu

night granite
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if igpus get good enough I'm making a teeny tiny mini pc

wheat torrent
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NVIDIA on the 5000 series already added a lot of specific chips aimed to improve neural performance

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Remember the comparison they did with 4000 and 5000 series cards

night granite
frigid blade
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oh shit the 285k has an Arc as the iGPU?

simple dagger
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I’m still on said 4070

frigid blade
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apparently comparable to a GTX 1050 Ti

night granite
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igpus use ram as vram yeah?

frigid blade
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Yes

night granite
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is it that simple or are there drawbacks?

simple dagger
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5070 is just more power draw for not a lot of gain and 5080 is a space warmer, a really expensive card and prob gonna be irrelevant by the time we get the next node shift

frigid blade
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But it means you can also upgrade it

frigid blade
wheat torrent
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The new iGPUs are a really strong

simple dagger
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I would upgrade to a 5070 if my current GPU was an RTX 2070 which it’s not

frigid blade
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But, IE a 32GB build with the ultra 9 285k means the iGPU has got 18GB shared memory

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2 GB VRAM, 16GB DRAM

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If you set it auto mode or whatever it’s called

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You can change the values in the bios I think

wheat torrent
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I mean most steamdeck type decides use igpu, and those are very popular right now

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You can emulate GTA 5 with quite good performance on android smartphones

frigid blade
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I’m about to run a steel nomad benchmark on my 285k

night granite
glass perch
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is there a way to see my stats at all time in MSI afterburner?

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Like not only in games

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OSD

simple dagger
#

You mean the OSD while on desktop?

glass perch
frigid blade
night granite
simple dagger
frigid blade
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IE DDR5 6000MT/s has a max bandwidth of 96GB/s in dual channel, 4060 VRAM bandwidth is almost 272GB/s

wheat torrent
mint umbra
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Why is amd rt performance so bad

simple dagger
frigid blade
night granite
wheat torrent
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The ryzen ai Max 395+ has a igpu equivalent to mobile 4070

frigid blade
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1050Ti VRAM can do 112GB/s, if you compare to 32GB (2x16) DDR5 at 6000MT/s it’s 96GB/s

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So it’s pretty close

wheat torrent
simple dagger
#

Is DDR6 even rumored atm? Any progress on that?

night granite
glass perch
wheat torrent
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Gddr6 is 12-16 gbps

wheat torrent
simple dagger
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I do not expect low prices for DDR6 tho. Since DDR5 5200MHz was also quite expensive at launch

frigid blade
wheat torrent
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Am5 ends support in 2027

simple dagger
night granite
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I"m just thinking ahead, if I ever travel outside of the states, or even inside the states on a plane, I want to build a pc that can fit in my camera bag, so no dedicated gpu

dusty dew
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got the top end "nokia" phone because i got annoyed by the damaged screen

dusty dew
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KEKW now time to buy some protectors

simple dagger
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I prefered Intel’s aproach to DDR5. Have LGA1700 support both in a way

frigid blade
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Yah that was cool

night granite
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I agree

pearl fossil
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hi

frigid blade
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I had that with my 13900kf for a while

simple dagger
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I hope they and AMD do the same with DDR6

pearl fossil
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got a new laptop

frigid blade
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DDR4 then upgraded to 5 (with mobo obviously)

night granite
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I'd argue for super low budgets (before the ram issue atleast) getting an lga 1700 ddr4 board was better than am4

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12100f is stupid cheap

simple dagger
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I think DDR5 6000MHz should work fine enough through the years of RAMMAGEDDON

frigid blade
wheat torrent
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Unsure it's still in prototype stage

frigid blade
#

Ah yah

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Prototype makes sense

wheat torrent
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Start of mass adoption after 2027

frigid blade
#

Ofc it’s G.Skill haha

simple dagger
#

I also hope Intel Nova Lake gets revealed at CES 2026. Like actual performance

frigid blade
#

I love them

night granite
#

honestly, I trust amd to make an AMAZING igpu for am6

frigid blade
wheat torrent
#

Ddr5 in our desktop computer's are dimm

simple dagger
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Atm its just leaks and rumors but 18A architecture could be cool

night granite
wheat torrent
#

Tbe images above are camm2

frigid blade
simple dagger
frigid blade
wheat torrent
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I am unsure if ddr6 is going to even use dimm slots

cosmic idol
night granite
frigid blade
simple dagger
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That’s the one thing i never really liked about Norwegian schools. You don’t get full points in math if you don’t show how it’s done. Even if the result is correct, you lose points. My brain does math not logic

wheat torrent
#

Though I can't see how you would install multiple ram sticks with camm2

night granite
frigid blade
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It’s boring af, you can just slap plastic on the camm2 bam it’s cool

cosmic idol
#

I love that

simple dagger
# wheat torrent

I kinda forgot about CAMM2 but hope it arrives sometime soon to the masses and replaces DIMM

night granite
simple dagger
cosmic idol
simple dagger
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$650 xD

night granite
#

I paid 40 bucks for it about 6 months ago

boreal tiger
#

So how would Linus tech tips would be different if they were in US instead of Canada?

cosmic idol
simple dagger
swift thorn
# wheat torrent

I believe space and orientation would be a bit of a problem, like where do you put half a chocolate bar on the motherboard

cosmic idol
simple dagger
swift thorn
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going from vertical to horizontal just looks and feels weird, spacewise

wheat torrent
#

Seems like camm2 is a single stick of memory which is 128bit bus dual channel

simple dagger
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You can almost convert 40,000NOK to $4000

boreal tiger
simple dagger
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So it’s kinda easy to understand

swift thorn
frigid blade
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$4k for driving lessons is wild

simple dagger
cosmic idol
frigid blade
#

just go drive around the cemetery, thats what I did

night granite
#

I will do that SO fast

swift thorn
# wheat torrent

honestly looks like a lot of wasted space, everything is cramped everywhere else

simple dagger
boreal tiger
swift thorn
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idk, this is my take to someone else it might look normal

simple dagger
wheat torrent
frigid blade
#

where I am, you take the test whenever, if you fail well, too bad and you have to retake

simple dagger
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Atleast the Theory Exam was pretty cheap

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$50

frigid blade
#

you have to pass the written before the driving

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well I say written but its on computers

simple dagger
swift thorn
simple dagger
night granite
simple dagger
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If you had a lisence before

wheat torrent
#

Here you also have to do a minimum amount of driving lessons and for the instructor to green light you

swift thorn
frigid blade
#

wait this iGPU is actually fire

swift thorn
simple dagger
#

In general, i think it’s harder to get a drivers lisence in Europe than it is in the US or some Asian countries

frigid blade
#

over 12FPS on steel nomad

swift thorn
simple dagger
wheat torrent
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Its not lost space if there is nothing to fill that space with

simple dagger
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Private driving doesn’t really get registered in the National Driving Database. Driving with instructor does

wheat torrent
#

I'm sure micro atx will still be possible on ddr6

simple dagger
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And it is only the instructor that can order some of the obligatory tests!!!

swift thorn
simple dagger
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Regular driving lessons i can order myself. But obligatory ones, the ones that progress you twoards the driving exam, those are controlled by the instructor here

wheat torrent
#

The only thing that I am surprised about is that we are going from being able to use 2 or 4 sticks to only one

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You can't just buy more ram now

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You have to sell your current stick and get a new one

swift thorn
simple dagger
#

Oh and also you need an approved car for the Exam aswell which can be quite expensive

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The easiest way is to just rent the car from the driving school. So $330 here

wheat torrent
#

Apparently enterprise or workstation motherboards might have stackable camm2

swift thorn
#

tfym an approved car

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no one doing their driving test in an aventador 😭

simple dagger
#

Also there are a ton of Teslas and EV’s in Norway for context

swift thorn
#

no driving aids makes sense, but seriously an approved car list

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that is absolutely diabolical

simple dagger
#

Every other car you see here is an EV.
But the car you drive with the instructor is typically a hybrid

wheat torrent
#

Camm2 takes roughly 3 dim slots @swift thorn

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Considering a lot of motherboards even micro atx comes with 4 dim slots

simple dagger
#

@swift thorn

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Let’s just say there’s an absurd amount of rules

wheat torrent
cold skiff
wheat torrent
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sadlinus Ofc there is a heatshield

simple dagger
#

You need pedals also on the passenger side @swift thorn

wheat torrent
#

Looks standard for eu

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In america I recall the driving license is easier to get because in most states you can't function without a car

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Very bad public infrastructure for transportation

simple dagger
wheat torrent
#

So If you make driving licenses hard to get people won't be able to get shit done

frigid blade
#

time to undervolt the 285k

wheat torrent
#

That's what I heard at least

rigid fjord
simple dagger
#

5.1GHz all core

simple dagger
#

By default it’s like 170 watts

rigid fjord
simple dagger
#

xD

rigid fjord
wheat torrent
#

Ugly ahh

rigid fjord
wheat torrent
#

With legs

rigid fjord
wheat torrent
#

Lmao

frigid blade
#

hard drive moment

wheat torrent
cold skiff
#

LGA1700 LUL

wheat torrent
#

I'm kinda bummed that it's only one module

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I'll have to buy 64 out of the getgo

rigid fjord
# wheat torrent Lmao

remember if you don't screw down lga1700 correctly, you either lose ram channels, usb or cause the pins to spread over and possibly kill parts

wheat torrent
#

Jedec didn't finish the standard yet

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I recall

rigid fjord
cold skiff
#

Four standards. JEDEC/XMP/EXPO/LTT Overclocking

calm idol
cold skiff
#

It can be

wheat torrent
rigid fjord
calm idol
rigid fjord
frigid blade
#

ive never seen task manager show over 100% CPU usage until now

calm idol
#

bandwidth yes, is also better with dimms but speed almost never unless for very niche needs

frigid blade
rigid fjord
#

<@&750150305383186585> bitcoin scam

coarse radish
#

I just reslotted my ram but the lamps are still on :(

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Never mind the red one just turned off

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And my screens are on now

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That’s weird

midnight wind
# frigid blade

POV you're an IaaS compute service overprovisioning your machines

frigid blade
#

107%

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thats the highest ive seen it hit

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108

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under over 100% load

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thats not bad temps at all

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just AIO, nothing else

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but I doubt if you have an AIO extra case fans would help

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max 232W

sour remnant
#

The X870E AORUS XTREME looks sick

cold skiff
#

Best get it a doctor

cold skiff
sour remnant
frigid blade
coarse radish
cold skiff
#

Yikes

sour remnant
#

Environmentally friendly pc

coarse radish
#

nothing super important just cable managment

cold skiff
#

It’s a very loose zip tie to begin with

frigid blade
#

i seem to be averaging a lower score tho

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2300

cold skiff
#

Against a database of XOC it’s not to be a surprise

coarse radish
frigid blade
coarse radish
#

should probably figure my cables out later but rn i need to work lmao

frigid blade
rigid fjord
cold skiff
#

Yeah I thought he’d be doing like 3dmark

frigid blade
#

does 3dmark have a free cpu benchmark?

rigid fjord
frigid blade
#

its r24 yah

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no OC, well, the "oc" profile on the BIOS, thats it

rigid fjord
frigid blade
#

RAM is running XMP 6000

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its a different kit***

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not my 4 dimms

rigid fjord
frigid blade
#

yes, I will be back in 9 days and the extreme RAM OC will begin

rigid fjord
#

it's not extreme til you hit 13,000+ mt/s

frigid blade
#

It is when u running 4 dimms

rigid fjord
#

current highest is somewhere between 12500 and 13000 mt/s, last time i checked

frigid blade
#

Not menacing at all

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Living room pc setup with no peripherals

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just gonna leave it like that until im back lol

cursive swan
#

Random question, do i upgrade my FE 3060 ti this year or do i have time to wait? With prices skyrocketing, Idk if i should take the money i was gonna use for new peripherals and buy a new gpu or wait

cursive swan
#

Dram prices

frigid blade
#

i thought its just RAM

cursive swan
#

its everything

frigid blade
#

might be able to snag a 5070 for cheap on newegg tmr

cursive swan
#

Damn

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i dont got that money

frigid blade
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oh the 3060ti is cheaper than I thought mb

cursive swan
#

But i have a i7 12700k and 3060ti so i was thinking of a 5070 or rx 9060xt

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i didnt buy it

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i got it from a family member who had it collecting dust in his basement

frigid blade
#

was talking about this

cursive swan
#

Im sorry, newegg is not my jam unless i really need it

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id rather buy off amazon or buy it used of MBPC

frigid blade
#

because of the old videos about it?

cursive swan
#

no

frigid blade
#

if its personal experience then I get it, but its not as bad as it used to be when those videos were coming out

cursive swan
#

i was building my pc this year and they sent me a broken psu which probably wasnt their fault but im still paranoid

frigid blade
#

they have pretty good bundles thats why i like them

cursive swan
#

id see that

frigid blade
#

i paired a bundle last week with a paypal deal, ultra 9 285k, z890c gaming x wifi7, free AIO, for $750 after tax, minus 20% so came out to be like $580 with my CC cash back

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best deal ive ever gotten on pc parts excluding full builds

cursive swan
#

thats like my whole pc

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for the budget i mean

frigid blade
#

we all start somewhere

cursive swan
#

Ik

frigid blade
#

if youre old enough (18), you might be able to get 20% cash back using paypals deal, if you order within the next 3 days

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should give you a bigger budget but spend the same amount

cursive swan
#

I have a 12700k, 3060ti, z790 pro rs wifi, montech xr, and hyper 212 cooler plus 32gb ddr5 6000mhz for under $700

frigid blade
#

yah thats about what I had, less ram a bit better gpu, had 16gb ddr4 13600kf with a 3070ti

cursive swan
#

So i really only need a new GPU and SSD

frigid blade
#

yah, dont worry about cpu

cursive swan
#

Ik

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i got it for $150

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best purchase of my life

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is the ultra series worth it?

#

You said ultra 9 but would a 14900k be better?

frigid blade
#

I’m pretty sure the ultra 9 is better, but I think it’s more efficient

cursive swan
#

for AI tasks yeah but benchmarks say no

frigid blade
#

IIRC the 13th and 14th gens pull a lot more power

cursive swan
#

yeah

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just watercool tho. (Ik its hard im not a dumbass)

frigid blade
cursive swan
#

It is?

frigid blade
#

I did it like less than 12 hours ago

cursive swan
#

the #1 spot on cinebench is 14900k and 5090

frigid blade
#

I’m talking stock

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That’s hella overclocking

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And milticore

cursive swan
#

yeah true

frigid blade
#

I think single core is faster too

cursive swan
#

Ig you never OC that much when gaming tho

peak swan
#

My daily driver is 5 android versions behind this idiot from 2012

cursive swan
#

💀

glass perch
#

My AE is frozen and I cant close it in task manager even lmao

cursive swan
#

Thats one old ass samsung

peak swan
frigid blade
peak swan
#

My daily driver is a Huawei nova 3

glass perch
#

oh

cursive swan
peak swan
glass perch
#

2012

glass perch
cursive swan
#

Yo does cinebench like do anything to my hdd

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Ik this is a dumb question

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but my hdd is from 2007 and its ready to blow

glass perch
#

just dont use that man

peak swan
cursive swan
#

Dont ask questions

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some of us cant drop $100 on an ssd whenever

#

I spent all my money on my parts and forgot my ssd

glass perch
frigid blade
cursive swan
#

so i had to take an hdd out of my parents old vista pc

cursive swan
peak swan
#

I mean i have a hard drive from like 1995 (1.56gb original quantum fireball) buy i don't actually use it, i just have one in a drawer

frigid blade
peak swan
cursive swan
#

wdym

glass perch
#

has anyone here ever had that thing where ur GPU fans would go max RPM and monitor would not recieve signal

frigid blade
#

oh I need a wheel and pedals

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might buy them now when everything is on sale

cursive swan
#

oh ive gotten that where the monitor freezes

cursive swan
glass perch
cursive swan
#

Yeah

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i was playing fortnite a few days ago and it did that

glass perch
cursive swan
#

Restarted my pc lol

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u could try reinstallinfg drivers tho

#

what gpu do you have?

frigid blade
#

wtf happened to SSD prices

peak swan
glass perch
frigid blade
#

they almost doubled

cursive swan
#

my dram ssd was $70 in sept

#

its now 100

cursive swan