tech-chat-1

[hallow jasper]

little does he know I don't see any of it!

[ionic peak]

Hello all

[left dove]

Guilty, what kinda ramen do I make today

give me a variety of ingredients

[ionic peak]

Steak

[left dove]

I don't keep steak around because I don't eat it often enough

I have chicken, turkey, and fish

(salmon & yellowfin tuna)

[hallow jasper]

chicken, chicken or chicken

[ionic peak]

chicken to

[ionic peak]

Maybe Chicken

https://tenor.com/view/sweet-chili-chicken-wings-wings-chicken-wings-food-gif-6144050244711803014

[hallow jasper]

i want wings now

[hidden nymph]

thats a fair take, but I prefer to test my real world performance, not my theoretical, sure if i can get 2.3gbps to the ISPs server thats fine, but if my outbound to actual other servers is slower, like way slower time and time again, then you would want to know if there is such a problem

[left dove]

I'm actually not the biggest fan of wings just because of how messy they are

Like the sauces that people use can be really good but jesus christ I don't want to wake up the next day with a golfball-sized pimple

[hallow jasper]

Thats the thing, is it a problem? Who's? You or your ISP can't account for what happens past them.

[distant frigate]

This ^^

[hidden nymph]

I'm arguing people should get a better picture of what they can realistically expect, not just to their ISP

[left dove]

Okay but think about this, having that fat of a pipeline means you can saturate it with multiple fast download streams instead of queueing

[hallow jasper]

speaking of defaults what the fuck

[left dove]

LMAO

[hidden nymph]

LMFAO

[ionic peak]

sorry but try Chicken

[left dove]

Fucking furries plague the compsci world

[distant frigate]

Unfortunately Cox Communications privated their Speedtest.com servers

[ionic peak]

https://tenor.com/view/what-what-the-what-the-hell-wtf-gif-8562994133044611418

[distant frigate]

Cox communications is a scummy ISP anyways

[left dove]

"unfortunately" my guy cox is the biggest joke in ISPs, they're worse than dish satellite internet

[hallow jasper]

if you want data: https://speed.cloudflare.com/

[hidden nymph]

welp

okay i got 1.06gbps from cloudflare which is respectable

[valid fiber]

good enough for everything i do

[hallow jasper]

now you've done it. its an unspoken rule in discord when one person posts a speedtest results, everyone posts their speedtest result

[distant frigate]

Not bad for coaxial cable. Probably DOCSIS 3.1 mid split

DOCSIS 4.0 should give you much better upload speeds

[hidden nymph]

theyre bringing it soon, they say itll be symmetrical

Docsis 4 FDX

[distant frigate]

Yep. FDX DOCSIS 4.0 can do 2 gigabit symmetrical

1-2 gigabit upload as a service offering

[hidden nymph]

yeah i want faster uploads for my homelab, its still good rn, but id want to move my entire thing to my homelab instead of needing a vps for high bandwidth stuff

[valid fiber]

I'm just not willing to pay for more. fiber would be available

[hidden nymph]

hey i pay $115 a month, expensive ad fuck

for a residential connection

[valid fiber]

35€ / month

[hidden nymph]

for commercial what i pay is nothing, but residential, overpriced af

[distant frigate]

Cox dedicated to stray away from DOCSIS here and decided to overbuild with fiber. In 2023

So now everyone in the area can get fiber to the home

[hidden nymph]

ig xfinity doesnt wish to redo their entire network

atleast xfinity treats customers slightly better than cox, we dont have a usgae limit (thankfully)

[left dove]

You do.

[hidden nymph]

xfinity finally got rid of it

[left dove]

No, it's still there.

[distant frigate]

Cox doesn’t have data caps here which is awesome

I looked and it’s $0.00 for additional 50 GB of data

[ancient shale]

hey guys, is there any risk to putting lego inside my pc case / on top of my GPU?

[left dove]

The xfi complete or w/e its called that comes with the modem rental means you get unlimited data

if you use your own hardware and don't get xfi, you get 1.2tb/mo

[hidden nymph]

wrong, all plans are now unlimited

xfi complete and unlimited data packages are dead

https://www.xfinity.com/learn/internet-service/data

[left dove]

Maybe going forward since they enacted that policy. that's how mine still is. Already asked.

[valid fiber]

i stopped paying for mobile data and now I'm just using wifi
publiv wifi is almost everywhere availble where i need it

[hidden nymph]

im also price locked in for 5 years

[left dove]

Oh lookie there Peyton's right again

[dapper light]

Personalized ads are so freaking scary.
I was searching for brake pads and the ads in Facebook starts to show them alongside the x99 motherboard I've been eyeing

[hidden nymph]

wrong, you stated I have a data limited

i dont... just because you do doesnt mean i do

[left dove]

You never said if it was a new or old plan, so

[distant frigate]

Cox is already starting to lower their prices here since GoNetSpeed Fiber is gonna come in with cheaper internet

Totally expected

[hidden nymph]

there would be no reason to keep the older plans as they all are more expensive than the new ones

[left dove]

And yet that image is from the site you linked

[hidden nymph]

then upgrade your plan to one of the new ones lol

personally,click the 5 year options

[left dove]

my 2gig plan is $75/mo why would I "upgrade" lol

[distant frigate]

Yikes $130 a month everyday

[hidden nymph]

so that you have unlimited bandwidth, 2gbps without unlimited traffic is insanity

[left dove]

comes with xfi complete, like I mentioned before

[hidden nymph]

then yeah theres no reason for you to upgrade

[left dove]

I use their modem in bridge mode and use my own router for custom dns. xfinity doesn't care, you still get the no data cap if you use their modem

[hidden nymph]

thats what im doing

[frigid blade]

Would a 3070 Ti paired with a 13900kf make the CPU overkill?

[hidden nymph]

well im using my own router for other reasons too

im splitting my connection with my neighbors

[left dove]

I thinki I used over 20tb last month..

[hidden nymph]

they cant afford to install their own plan, so i just gave them their own LAN

(no they dont have access to the same LAN I do, that would be insanity)

[left dove]

I was gonna vlan to share my innernet with my neighbors

[hidden nymph]

her son uses it for school, so i dont complain to give them a small bit

its ratelimited to 300mbps

and 50 mbps upload

[distant frigate]

Not bad monthly data usage

[hidden nymph]

and entirely for free, i dont think thats half bad at all

[left dove]

I was gonna charge my neighbor $30/mo just to recoup the switch cost, would save them like $45/mo

plus my stuff is all on battery backup and I could poe their router so they have innernet when the power goes out

[hidden nymph]

eh, theyre just using the guest network which is isolated etc, they dont need a real LAN thankfully, they just want an internet connection

[ionic peak]

Nice

[hidden nymph]

sadly i cant run cabling so they have their own access point

[left dove]

I still need to pull the trigger on that project tbh

[hidden nymph]

/router

sure should i be concerned i can be responsible for what they do, sure, but ive outweighd the pros and cons, even if its not a benefit to me, eh

I dont look to get something back for everything i do

[peak swan]

I mean
My pc has 8gb ddr3 and it runs windows 11 fine
But like i daily drive linux either way
I thought it's a good deal but i uhh well don't have the money anyways lol

[hidden nymph]

i dont even fuck with Windows 11, i got my Windows 10 LTSC lmaoo

Windows 11 is dogshit

[fringe prairie]

i mean if you do cpu intensive tasks no

[left dove]

No its noooooot

[hidden nymph]

💀💀💀 are u boutta say Windows 11 is good

[left dove]

Better than 10.

[hidden nymph]

nah, Windows 10 LTSC is goated over Windows 11

[left dove]

Meh.

[hidden nymph]

tbf its user preference lmao

[dapper light]

Roblox took 141 GB wtf

i only got roblox on the exitlag so yes, 141GB on roblox

though that's still not enough to download COD

[jaunty apex]

Wouldn't say so since 10 is effectively EoL but

If it were mine would be 7

[random gyro]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/ltsc/overview

So I educated myself about ltsc, seems extremely niche hobby style thing to have on your personal pc - and I haven’t noticed anything worse in win11 than win10, both are equally bad. I do however really enjoy the window management stuff and bottom bar icons at the middle as a wide screen user (32:9)

[jaunty apex]

Personally used to have more issues in Arch than Windows 10, now I'm daily driving it lol

[glacial hound]

What do we think of a RTX3060 12GB for 265usd/375 CAD?

[high steppe]

uhhhhhhh does anyone know how to fix this??? like theres just constantly the yellow warning sign on the normal device manager page. but like im able to download the updates no problem but still this persists??

[delicate lion]

@brazen glen i found out 2 of my ram sticks didnt support the speed of 3200mts and so i removed them, now my pc seems to run fine on 3200mt/s, i sacificed 8gbs in total for the jump from 2400mts to 3200mts.

[high steppe]

lenovo loq 16aph8 if that helps

[fluid badger]

Question, Would anyone know where to find CPU back plates for older motherboards? Im still on an old msi AM4 X370 board. and I've been through like 5 moves since I put my liquid cooler on and have since lost the original back plate for the board now that i want to switch back to air cooling. And MSI basically told me im SOL unless I find a third party.

[grizzled frost]

ebay

[delicate lion]

Considering a new board?

[fluid badger]

You gonna pay for it 😂

[delicate lion]

Motherboards are fairly cheap no?

Idk you could be lucky and find that backplate.

[fluid badger]

I mean yeah in the grand scheme of things but i cant just go drop 100 bucks on a new board right now. Its just not in my options. I figure try and find the 5-10 dollar part first before considering new board.

[delicate lion]

Fair enough, i would do the same in your position.

[fluid badger]

I found it on amazon of all places.

https://www.amazon.com/SJZBIN-Heatsink-Motherboard-Mounting-Backplate/dp/B09C8M7M9M

[delicate lion]

Awesome dude, hope it works out.

[fluid badger]

I called MSI and they were like "yeah you're SOL that's too old good luck" and told me to have a nice day

[delicate lion]

Atleast they answered xd

[fluid badger]

I know but they could have at least acted like they looked. It was 40 second phone call.

[delicate lion]

Yeah thats customer support for ya, they dont get paid enough to give a shit ig

Random nerds on the internet give better support for free though which is interesting.

[high steppe]

anyone know?

[solid quail]

going to buy a oneplus 10T for 50€

[delicate lion]

Godspeed

[left trellis]

idk how the canadian market is but thats awful in the usa

[glacial hound]

Everything is awful here so I was hoping someone with a little bit of knowledge about the market would confirm if this was awfuler or less awfuler

[left trellis]

ebay or what r u using

[glacial hound]

Canada computers which is our micro center

Generally speaking since I'm real rural it makes more sense for me to drive the 2-3 hours there vs pay for long distance shopping

[fringe prairie]

id rather a new 9060xt or 5060
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/zTpD4D/gigabyte-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-9060-xt-8-gb-video-card-gv-r9060xtgaming-oc-8gd
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/8NgZxr/pny-oc-geforce-rtx-5060-8-gb-video-card-vcg50608dfxpb1-o

b580 is C$330 if you want more vram but you lose performance

[glacial hound]

B580 is about 400 cad at most retailers but it looks like there's a black Friday sale for 360 rn

[fringe prairie]

im seeing $330 here
https://www.vuugo.com/product/asrock-intel-arc-b580-cl-12go/

dunno how reputable this store is

[proper pond]

Will there be better discounts on the day of black friday/cyber monday for gpu's? Or are the discounts going on currently already the one's for blackfriday/cyber monday?

[south arrow]

If you find one below its msrp myte be worth it

[dusty dew]

well it happens, now i am thinking between three phones, two motorolas and a NOKIA

G56, Edge 60 Stylus and HMD skyline(basically this is Nokia ) g56 is cheapest, 60 st is most exp, and the skyline looks great

[spring raft]

is a 1tb MSI SPATIUM M470 nvme a good pick for $45?

[dusty dew]

the skyline looks like a overlooked flagship styled phone tbh with repairable parts, but moto is more edgy meh if price dont change ill be stuck between deciding on this and the g56.

[hallow jasper]

it'll do the job for most people. Its nothing special, a very old design at this point. For $45 though, its great. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/msi-spatium-m470-review

[kindred halo]

How much better would a B450 be in comparison to a B350 assuming both are Gen 3?

Power layout and I/O stuff set aside, are there any features that're within the chipset itself or whatever that would make a B450 better?

[plain cypress]

A lot of 300 series boards were mediocre

[kindred halo]

I'd give both models but I only have the one for the B350

[plain cypress]

400 series, and particularly 500 series, is when board makers started putting effort into AM4

Also 400 series is officially gen3 for primary PCIe anyways

Also from your question, it is impossible to answer

You have to provide actual product model numbers

[knotty pike]

I worried about the npm breach going on yet I never use npm practically.

[ionic peak]

Is the MSI MPG B550 Gaming Plus good for the price of 107 euros?

[swift moss]

bro what in the fucking lord is this shipping price 😭

this is abhorrent shipping price for 500g

dude i used to get leather scraps from etsy and it used to be like 10nzd shipping

no wonder its 2 day shipping overseas lol

<@&750150305383186585>

[ionic peak]

GO play skipidi toilet

[kindred halo]

Yeah I can't really get that till tomorrow

[plain cypress]

New or used

[ionic peak]

should be new i think

[plain cypress]

New AM4 board in 2025 for over a hundred euro, damn

Is that with 20% VAT applied

[ionic peak]

looks like this

[kindred halo]

That's nothing, 80 dollars for a Gen 3 A520M. H

[ionic peak]

ye 😭

[plain cypress]

I mean the board is fine

[fluid badger]

They have B550 AM4 boards here for what i think is about 130 Euro which is insane to me.

[ionic peak]

insane

[plain cypress]

Feels like you should be able to get a competent used AM4 board for like $80 in 2025, but what you listed isn't highway robbery either

[ionic peak]

oh ok used is also same price or more

[plain cypress]

💀

[ebon marlin]

https://stupidpenisx.com/TechPowerUp/status/1993094959814115405?s=19

TechPowerUp (@TechPowerUp)

Roblox CEO Calls Lootboxes and Gambling "Brilliant Idea" Following New Child Safety Features https://tpu.me/t823

vxTwitter / fixvx · Nov 24, 2025, 11:10 PM

[kindred halo]

It's just that you'd assume that, well.. Something like that would be priced closer to ~50 nowadays

[fluid badger]

They have like the cheap Asus boards for like 40 but they dont have any good feature sets on them. its just a basic board.

[ionic peak]

like 130 last i saw

up to 150

[ionic peak]

Gambling?

[random junco]

They banned purchases of random chance items in Roblox a few years ago, and now they're encouraging it

nice

who needs stake anyways

[ionic peak]

EA move

[fringe prairie]

catering to ohnepixel and his fans

[ionic peak]

GOld gold gold

[carmine yew]

this is a little nuts:

[mortal jackal]

Couldn't pay me to use those

[distant frigate]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CableTechs/s/8jzgbcSwEO

Lovely four way splitter

[hidden nymph]

i just encountered my first ipv6 only network

[ionic peak]

RGB = more fps

[hidden nymph]

its...interesting to say the least

i was so confused why my wireguard wouldnt connect

so ig i need to setup IPv6 on my home network after all to work on all network

I never wanted to live to see the day where this is a thing

[carmine yew]

I'm mostly curious cuz those are individually EXPENSIVE parts... 30 bucks is less than 1/4 msrp

[mortal jackal]

Must be clearing stock

[distant frigate]

Solution to this is to use a two way splitter unless the technician used a four way splitter to decrease the signal more

[mortal jackal]

[carmine yew]

https://tenor.com/view/invaderzim-whistle-whistling-casual-bored-gif-4807992

[carmine yew]

honestly half the reason is, I'm curious to see if I actually get it

[mortal jackal]

Fair enough

[carmine yew]

and at worst? Newegg refunds me. At best, I get it and flip it for a 100-200% profit on FBM

[mortal jackal]

Keep trading 'til you get a car

[ionic peak]

Now waiting

[carmine yew]

nowhere near that eager. If I actually get it, the odds of installing it are super low

[ionic peak]

😭

[carmine yew]

i'm more likely to flip it on FBM

[radiant geyser]

Iv never seen a 9950x3d this cold

[left trellis]

$700 build :D

cable covers might be too much rgb for me

[nova barn]

Is it funny at how family have a Amazon fire hd 10 11 Gen and my dad say it still woke when it end of life like he doesn't care about updates or security

[plain cypress]

Cringe

[ionic peak]

300 figure

[charred hare]

https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/829179/david-sacks-ai-executive-order

[warm saddle]

isnt 180hz for secondary monitor to much? doesnt it eat much performance?

[dusk patio]

My main monitor is 1080p 180hz, but only a handful of games can actually run fast enough on my setup to utilize it. The better response time is appreciated, however

[warm saddle]

But i mean for second

[dusk patio]

Depends what you're using it for. It's probably overkill if this is just for discord or something

[warm saddle]

Why? Its cheaper

[dusk patio]

your GPU should be able to drive it no problem if that's what you're worried about

[dusk patio]

you don't need 180hz discord I mean

[swift stream]

67 💀

[ancient shale]

How would I go about uninstalling my drivers for this without bricking my PC in the process?

[hexed tapir]

Pretty good game well worth $8.24

[frigid blade]

you should be fine to just uninstall, pretty sure the majority if not all modern computers can run without the installed drivers

they have the basics "built in"

[ancient shale]

So I can just look up "how to uninstall drivers" and do what it says right?

[frigid blade]

Device Manager -> Right Click the Device -> Uninstall

[ancient shale]

Awesome

[dusk patio]

for things like display driver, yeah windows has a very basic built-in driver to output a display, but you'll need to install the proper one in order to properly use your GPU

[ancient shale]

How do I find all drivers? Or is it just as simple as uninstalling every single device

[frigid blade]

might wanna use DDU for GPU

[ancient shale]

DDU?

[frigid blade]

only uninstall the ones that will be changing, like GPU, etc

[frigid blade]

https://www.guru3d.com/download/display-driver-uninstaller-download/

[dusk patio]

for desktop PCs usually it's on your motherboard website. For a prebuilt it would be on your model's support page

[ancient shale]

It's a whole new PC

[frigid blade]

might just wanna do a clean windows install tbh

[ancient shale]

Lazy to install all my stuff again ☹️ worst case scenario I can just factory reset Windows, right?

[frigid blade]

yah

[ancient shale]

Alr

[frigid blade]

Id only do the GPU driver wipe probably

[ancient shale]

Gonna start uninstalling all my drivers now 😅

[frigid blade]

nah dont do everything

[ancient shale]

Oh?

[dusk patio]

the only drivers I would worry about is LAN/WiFi, Bluetooth, and display, since those usually need their dedicated drivers to work properly

[ancient shale]

Okay so I'll uninstall Wi-Fi, Bluetooth & GPU drivers

[frigid blade]

make a restore point first

[ancient shale]

Sorry... how do I do that?

[frigid blade]

search "create restore" in the windows search and itll come up

[ancient shale]

Done

[frigid blade]

alr ur good now, use DDU for the graphics drivers, the rest you can use device manager

just do what wizard said

[dusk patio]

once you swap the SSD and boot into windows, you can often download basic drivers through Windows Update

[ancient shale]

So to reiterate:
Uninstall Wi-Fi & Bluetooth through Device Manager
Uninstall GPU drivers with DDU

anything i'm missing?

Guess not

[dusk patio]

Uhh wait

[ancient shale]

Wait how will I install new drivers with no Wi-Fi?? the trusty ol' USB stick?

[ruby plover]

would i be fine if i upgrade to a r7 7800x3d and 5060ti with a bronze 750w psu that isnt atx 3 or would i need atleast a gold one that is atx 3 3.1

[clear canyon]

Download it before?

[ancient shale]

Alr just wanted to confirm

[warm saddle]

Yeah, but i need pivot

[dusk patio]

I was going to ask like won't having no display driver mean no display until windows downloads the basic one

[frigid blade]

dont need USB stick you can just download it to the current drive since ur reusing windows

[clear canyon]

Yeah, i run an overclocked 4080 and a 7800x3d on a 750w psu

[frigid blade]

no, theres a basic driver that is always used

how do you think a fresh install displays from GPU? lol

[ancient shale]

okay what drivers do i need again? CPU, GPU, motherboard... that's it?

[clear canyon]

Cpu?

[dusk patio]

right I wasn't thinking of that lol

[ancient shale]

the ryzen amd drivers or whatever

i remember installing those. am i going crazy?

[clear canyon]

Uh, no

[dusk patio]

Your motherboard website will have all the drivers listed

not gpu ofc

but like internet and all that

[ancient shale]

Found my motherboard. It's very tuf

i dont need LAN drivers if i dont intend on using ethernet/LAN right?

[frigid blade]

nah, but you might as well in case you ever use it

[ancient shale]

Might as well then

[valid bobcat]

Air gapped system?

[ancient shale]

Okay they tried to sneak WinRAR in here I'm out

[ancient shale]

I don't understand what that means

[frigid blade]

they think ur not connecting to the internet at all

[ancient shale]

should i get armoury crate? i heard something about "it's bloatware"

[ancient shale]

oh. i'm just using wifi

[frigid blade]

yah its a security thing

[dusk patio]

Ok here's my two cents: use armoury crate to automatically download all of the drivers for you, and then ditch it because it sucks at everything else

[valid bobcat]

Makes sense, get LAN drivers anyway while you're at it. I agree with Daniel here

[formal sonnet]

No need for armoury crate if you grab the driver's directly from the motherboard manufacturer website. Not worth it really. Best to know how to install each driver on its own.

[ancient shale]

already got all the drivers

[dusk patio]

then you don't need it lol

[ancient shale]

okay. downloaded all the drivers!! now we can start uninstalling

[ruby plover]

im more concerned about my psu being a bronze rating and not atx 3 , so i guess its less likely to handle power excursions and i dont want it frying anything

[clear canyon]

What psu is it

[ruby plover]

cooler master mwe 750w

not v2 or v3

got it a couple of years ago for my first adequate build

[valid bobcat]

The metal rating (bronze, silver, gold) just looks at efficiency, not at stability or quality

[clear canyon]

Ur good

Its B tier

[ruby plover]

i thought it was d or c

[frigid blade]

Rate the build

[ruby plover]

i can send photo of the box if yall want

[frigid blade]

I still have to buy the like 8 other fans for the case tho

im so ready to OC this ram to its limit

[dusk patio]

4x48GB of RAM what the

[clear canyon]

Intel detected, score is now 1/10

[clear canyon]

Thats normal

Its ddr5

[frigid blade]

I need it for the IMC

[valid bobcat]

Simulation?

[frigid blade]

nyah nyah nyah

[dusk patio]

crazy

[frigid blade]

ignore the 4800MT/s this CPU and Mobo just cant run it stable at over 5600, I had it stable until I didnt and messed something up

[dusk patio]

one stick is more than all of my ram lol

[frigid blade]

I have a 13900kf rn so the IMC will have an upgrade with the 285k

[frigid blade]

and the new board is rated for up to 6000MT/s on 4x48

one of the major issues i have rn is that the RAM is overheating and running unstable because of that

[ancient shale]

Hey guys, DDU is telling me to boot into safe mode?

[frigid blade]

you dont have to

its recommended but its not mandatory

[ancient shale]

alr it's uninstalling & shutting down

do i just no look back install the SSD into my new system, or check if things have been done correctly?

[frigid blade]

whats cool about the server edition for the phanteks enthoo pro 2 is that it has a dedicated bracket that lets you put 3 120 fans either directly facing the board or pushing more air past it

so I should be able to cool the RAM better

[tired bear]

does it fit in 19 inch rack horizontaly?

[dusk patio]

couldn't you strap a mini Noctua against the ram or something

[frigid blade]

its 9.45 x 22.83 x 22.05 in

[tired bear]

so no

[frigid blade]

yes but im done with jank

actually I lied because im gonna fit 20 HDDs in here when it only officially supports 10

[clear canyon]

Ur fine lol, dont worry

[frigid blade]

so theres still some jank involved

[boreal star]

hello, so i got a new prebuilt today and when i shut down the pc the fans still spin

[dusk patio]

You're probably fine idk. Wouldn't hurt to check tho

[boreal star]

what should indo

[dusk patio]

I've had this issue before. Disable Windows Fast Startup (look it up)

[boreal star]

is it in the bios?

[dusk patio]

no it's a windows setting

in the control panel

[ancient shale]

just checked. looks good!

[boreal star]

let me turn it on and check

[frigid blade]

turn it off (i misread, I thought you meant youre turning on fast startup lol)

the be quiet! Straight Power 12 1500W is pretty well priced too, for 1500W 80+P only $220

but tbh the silent part of it doesnt matter to me considering the case fans will be 169CFM

[boreal star]

i did. and it still spins

[rigid fjord]

power settings tbh

[rigid fjord]

is the fan connected to the mobo or psu?

[boreal star]

i think it had a fan hub

[rigid fjord]

they could be getting power from the psu

[boreal star]

aha thank u ill check it tmrw with the store

[rigid fjord]

when turnt off, they should stop spinning, same with it being shut down tbh

[boreal star]

yea i noticed it

and i turned off the psu from the back and they went off

[dusk patio]

oh weird

[ionic peak]

sad pig

[gray sierra]

hes going through it bro

[south arrow]

[left trellis]

If my display is plugged into my motherboard that means im using igpu right?

[dusk patio]

usually yeah

[left trellis]

the 13700k is insane then

and a 1440p card

[dusk patio]

integrated graphics are still capable of outputting to high resolution displays, and even some light gaming, but they're still nowhere near a dedicated GPU

[left trellis]

playing apex and rocketleague moving p good

[dusk patio]

make sure your monitor is plugged into the dedicated graphics card lol

[left trellis]

yeah ik i just wanted to see how good or bad the igpu was

its not bad at all tbh

[plush wren]

[dusk patio]

Rocket League isn't exactly a hard game to run (most eSports titles aren't)

[left trellis]

maybe i need to play cyberpunk next

[vague talon]

can someone with monitor knowledge can help me at #peripherals 🙏🏻

[wheat torrent]

T

[hardy horizon]

ye, i didn't know it was unrealistic to expect to transfer files that fast, i never though streaming over 4g would be fast enough for my needs, like at my buddies house on his 4k HDR TV 😍. i just thought transfering would be more reliable.

i did and do thank yall for explaining all that to me. even Snail in his mean boi ways. take the good ingnore/leave the bad.

[hidden nymph]

peak sexy

fuck Windows 11, why not Windows 7 but with all of the benefits of running a modern version of Windows

[whole garden]

ew

[hidden nymph]

who the fuck hates Windows 7

[ionic peak]

win 6?

[azure topaz]

T

[azure topaz]

"fuck windows 11, why not run windows 11 with a theme"

[hidden nymph]

this doesnt work in Windows 11 lol

and this is not Windows 11

look closer

[azure topaz]

wow im so shocked 😐

[ionic peak]

T

[wheat torrent]

T pose

[ionic peak]

POst T

[frail topaz]

is a $350 rx 6900xt a good deal?

[wheat torrent]

[mint umbra]

With dual boot are files shared

Between both os

[warm saddle]

isnt 180hz for secondary monitor to much? doesnt it eat much performance?

[azure topaz]

no it doesnt

[ivory mountain]

yes

[frail topaz]

im getting:

• R7 5700X - $140
• RX 6900 XT - $350
• B550 - $130
• 750W Gold - $80
  Cooler, Case, Storage, Ram - Free

seems fine to me

[ivory mountain]

i use a 6900xt myself its great, id get an 850 watt tho ngl

[frail topaz]

ill see what i can do alltho a 750 would stil run it

on an EXTREMELY tight budget tho thats why

[random gyro]

reunion7?

[hidden nymph]

revert8plus

[random gyro]

thats a new one

i love windows 7

[hidden nymph]

its best used on a LTSC copy of Windows 10, they even got a downgrader that keeps everything

[random gyro]

does it remove some of the windows 10 bloat?

[hidden nymph]

called UpDownTools

[hidden nymph]

Windows 10 ltsc already has no bloat

[frigid blade]

Not bad

[hidden nymph]

which is why Windows 10 LTSC is the preferred route

[random gyro]

oh, i forgot XD

[hidden nymph]

and it wont break by installing the latest updates

and support on Windows 10 till 2032

[random gyro]

does it have my beloved games

[hidden nymph]

yup

[random gyro]

like purble place and minesweeper

[hidden nymph]

fully and the games library etc

along with the mystical scoring thing

along with restores control panel etc

[plush wren]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/650511623433486359/1006493367187812352/caption-35-1.gif

[random gyro]

now that is impressive

might download on my own system XD

[hidden nymph]

oh AND brings back the Windows 7 login screen

[fickle ivy]

Omg WTH Google photos used like 300mb oc my data in one day

[hidden nymph]

lol thats why i got unlimited

i use 300mb just taking a duce

[fickle ivy]

I only have 8gb this month

I get 60 next month

[plush wren]

using your phone on the toilet is wild

[fickle ivy]

?

[random gyro]

even the cool screensavers?

[hidden nymph]

yup

u can get an unlimited plan for $19 a month

with unlimited hotspot

[random gyro]

does it bring aero to some programs that dont really support it?

[fickle ivy]

Why did you censor one

[fickle ivy]

Not where I live

[hidden nymph]

we dont talk about fight club outside of fight club, rule 1

[hidden nymph]

yeahh noo i couldnt stand having limited data

[fickle ivy]

I need at least 20gb to be comfortable

[fickle ivy]

My friend told me a trick to bypass the limit but id rather not test it

And it just sounds too good to be true

[fickle ivy]

That's pretty fast

I'm not gonna test mine cuz very limited data ofc

Yeah I'm on 5G

[gritty thistle]

Hey, is there any way I can use my Smartphone as a USB wireless dongle?

for my PC that doesn't have a wifi network or bluetooth card

[rigid fjord]

it's called tethering

[gritty thistle]

doesnt thethering require my PC to have capability to connect to wireless internet?

what im asking for is to use my smartphone AS a wireless connecting capability via USB

[forest wyvern]

why are ppl saying their is a ram pricing crisis?

[gritty thistle]

Because AI tards are using RAM as a replacement for GPU RAM

[forest wyvern]

you can get 16gb for £30-40 so i dont get why people are saying it

[gritty thistle]

and the market's exploding liek GPU's exploded when the AI shit hit the fan

[random junco]

i got 32gb ddr4 from alix for £35 now its at 100+ lmao

literally like 5 weeks ago

[random junco]

its mainly affecting america

[forest wyvern]

you can still get ram for $30-40

[random junco]

and ddr5

[forest wyvern]

$32.99

do keep in mind you have to downgrade your pc to use it as it is ddr3

[random junco]

why are you showing ddr3 ram then

god DAMN, america

comma is important

[azure topaz]

please buy ddr4 and 3 used

theres no reason to buy 10 year old memory new

[forest wyvern]

to show that the ram pricing issue is a load of bs

[azure topaz]

no man

its because youre buying somethign 20 years old brand new

go look at the price of a new gtx 1060 or 2060

[frigid blade]

This gotta be rage bait

[azure topaz]

also extremely expensive

but used theyre 35$

[random junco]

same with like basically anything old

[azure topaz]

youre buying things brand new that literally are not in production

[forest wyvern]

just downgrade

[azure topaz]

its going to be expensive

[forest wyvern]

$32.99 is not expensive

[random junco]

why would you change motherboard and cpu just for ddr3

[forest wyvern]

you save money by selling ur components

[azure topaz]

for what you get? yes it is 😭

[random junco]

save the money ur selling it for and get ddr5

[forest wyvern]

is it really? you get like 16gb or 32gb

[azure topaz]

bro sees my point doesnt want to agree and is now rage baiting

[random junco]

its literally only 50 usd more for ddr5

[forest wyvern]

brother i wasnt being serious from the start

[rigid fjord]

for ddr3, yes

[frigid blade]

Are you stupid or stupid?

[forest wyvern]

ddr2*

[rigid fjord]

even more so then

[forest wyvern]

also ram pricing is affecting the uk too cuz wtf is this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Vengeance-2x8GB-PC4-25600-systems/dp/B0943Y1T4X

ddr4, 16gb for £88

[frigid blade]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-bird-gif-16835999897918525830

[azure topaz]

its because ddr5 production is at a very low point currently because the AI bubble is taking more space for HBM wafers

[rigid fjord]

more than that for ddr5

[azure topaz]

this is a global thing

[ivory mountain]

nerd

[forest wyvern]

yes i know why their is a ram shortage

ive seen the ztt shorts

[ivory mountain]

ztt 💔

[azure topaz]

then why are you surprised its global 😭

[forest wyvern]

i didnt know it was for more hbm wafers

im not

someone here said its more of a us thing

[random junco]

cheapest ddr5 in the us is 82 usd

[rigid fjord]

the crapiest ram to look at

[forest wyvern]

even crappier price

[frigid blade]

Just borrow some ram from someone indefinitely

[rigid fjord]

is this some jedec kit of ddr5?

[random junco]

oh wait

[fickle ivy]

After much trial and error I managed to catch an image of my LED lights changing color, the bottom is the purple they were before

[random junco]

out of stock.

[rigid fjord]

so basically jedec, and the crapiest ones to touch

[random junco]

only 18 more for real real ram

[frigid blade]

gotta be fake

no way 16gb of ddr5 is $140

[ivory mountain]

idk why they still make 16gb kits who tf buys 16gb of ddr5

[frigid blade]

people who dont need 32

[rigid fjord]

you mean £90 more for real ram kit

[ivory mountain]

nobody buys 16gb of ddr5

[frigid blade]

then it wouldnt exist

[azure topaz]

some boards new it comes with free

[azure topaz]

my sisters boyfriend would disagree

[ivory mountain]

i dont even think ive seen 6 or 7 people with 16gb ddr5

[rigid fjord]

that's when you buy a single 16gb ddr5 stick not a shitty 2x 8gb kit

[swift stream]

adobe aftermath

[ivory mountain]

your sisters boyfriend isnt the sharpest tool in the shed then

[azure topaz]

not a choice when its free with the board

[ivory mountain]

[rigid fjord]

i have, as a single stick

[azure topaz]

my bad let me make ram cheaper, make it a free 32gb kit, and give him more money to buy better parts

[random junco]

what the hell is a fresco and audition

[ivory mountain]

i meant moreso as a kit

[frigid blade]

is dual channel not better?

[azure topaz]

1 stick is a kit

[ivory mountain]

no you gotta get him 64 you asshole, gosh ur so greedy

[azure topaz]

it is

[rigid fjord]

it is but not when it comes to a 2x8gb kit

[azure topaz]

i mean yes it still is lol

[frigid blade]

how is it not better?

[rigid fjord]

not wihen it's ddr5

[azure topaz]

you just sacrifice a proper upgrade path

ddr5 changes nothing about this conversation

you sacrifice being able to go to 2x16 if you buy 2x8 instead of 1x16 but you gain the benefit of dual channel

for people who probably dont need 32gb (or want to wait until its cheaper) and will be fine on 16GB id honestly go with that path

[empty quartz]

Day (i lost track) of using a modern macbook: im never going back to using windows for a daily driver

[frigid blade]

google says dual channel can do 10-15% better than the same amount of memory with a single dimm

[azure topaz]

well it can do...2x as better lol

literally do math daniel dont let ai poision you

[frigid blade]

it can vs it will not the same

[azure topaz]

DDR5 6000 1x16GB has the same bandwith as DDR4 3000 Dual channel

in situations where it needs bandwidth

it will perform the exact same as ddr4 3000 dual channel

or at least pretty close

[rigid fjord]

up to 30% difference afaik

[azure topaz]

its literally up to x2

it just depends on your workload 😭

[random junco]

ok floppa its 2x sorry

[frigid blade]

yah but you have to be maxing out bandwidth for that

[azure topaz]

doubling your bandwidth is doubling bandwidth

[empty quartz]

@azure topaz btw, i learned with a single dimm, my shitass xpg lancer 5200 kit can do 6800mt/s, but with 2 dimms, 6100 is the limit

[frigid blade]

im thinking gaming

[azure topaz]

and theres a ton of workloads that do

gaming can use a pretty large amount of dram bandwidth

hence the 10-15% gain by just going to dual channel

but something way more ram based idk like solidworks idk would likely see way higher gains

[brazen glen]

Modern AAA games that have asset streaming in large amounts will take advantage of ddr5

[azure topaz]

board/cpu limit then

probably board, do you have z690?

[frigid blade]

bro i cant wait for my new cpu and mobo to come @azure topaz i will do the first ram OC with AI 😈

[azure topaz]

honestly i wanna see

[solar moat]

ddr5 dose get more bandwith clock for clock since your not hitting the theoretical limits on both

[empty quartz]

Z790

[azure topaz]

what board?

[solar moat]

but its offen not that much more

[frigid blade]

remember when we couldnt figure out why your settings werent working, I asked perplexity and it went stable

[azure topaz]

and then went unstable the next day

[empty quartz]

Gigglebyte z790 aorus pro x

[frigid blade]

we dont talk about that

[azure topaz]

so its CPU, makes sense

[azure topaz]

that board is good for 8K on the right imc

[empty quartz]

Yeah, ive been meaning to upgrade it

[azure topaz]

13500 gets locked SA volts so yeah

[frigid blade]

z790 ends at what gen? 14th?

[azure topaz]

yes

[frigid blade]

and it has same imc as 13th?

[delicate lion]

Uhh... my game frames drop then my screens turn dark while i can still talk on discord.

[empty quartz]

@azure topaz should i get a 13900k or a 13980hx modded into an lga 1700 cpu

[azure topaz]

13900K if you want memory

or any other 13/14th k sku

[empty quartz]

On paper the 13980hx might be better for reliability

[azure topaz]

no

[frigid blade]

does K have better ram OC results?

[azure topaz]

yes

[frigid blade]

can you OC the IMC?

[azure topaz]

chinese ES/QS samples delidded/poorly relidded that are shit overclockers especially on the IMC

[azure topaz]

do you know what ram overclocking implies

[frigid blade]

i thought it was the timings for the RAM not the IMC

[azure topaz]

yknow how ryzen has FCLK and UCLK and such

timings is ram yes theres other shit

[frigid blade]

yah but we didnt touch that then

[azure topaz]

UCLK, tired to your m freq, is the memory controller

[solar moat]

you shoud

[azure topaz]

changing speed is changing the MC

[frigid blade]

really?

[azure topaz]

yes man

[ivory mountain]

my fclk is 2133 boiiiiiiii

[azure topaz]

memory controller clock is tied to your ram clock

its speed is influenced by your memory ratio and your gear ratio

gear 2 runs the imc at half the clock speed of your memory

[frigid blade]

i think ive forgotten a lot

[azure topaz]

gear 4 is a quarter of it

[solar moat]

on zen2/3 auto is 1:1:1 till over 3600 that why no one recomends over 3600
zen4/5 3:3:2 is ratio at ddr5 6000 and over it it swaps to 2:1:x so that why most recomend ddr5 6000 for those

[azure topaz]

g1 is syncing it

[frigid blade]

yah i understand gearing

[azure topaz]

gearing=imc clock, so

[solar moat]

ddr5 on intel dose not do gear1

[ivory mountain]

nerdddd

[azure topaz]

yes

[solar moat]

yes

[frigid blade]

floppa what do you think we can get the kits i have running at on the new setup then?

[azure topaz]

@frigid blade

[solar moat]

ddr4 4400?

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-patrick-star-broke-poor-gif-14729256

[frigid blade]

thats almost jedec default for ddr5

[solar moat]

Cezanne?

[frigid blade]

how come?

[solar moat]

ask intel

[frigid blade]

its just not possible to set it?

[solar moat]

yep

[frigid blade]

thats dumb

i feel like its not likely due to the IMC not being able to handle it right?

[solar moat]

and also given the fact cpus like 12100F i messed with the imc hits wall before ddr4 3600 from imc meaning if we asume imc clock is limit ddr5 3600 not good

[frigid blade]

im talking about the newest gens imc ^^^

[solar moat]

welp intel built imc we work with what we got

[frigid blade]

i hope i can get this kit running over 6000

[civic ferry]

Current PC is running on 3 kits of ram at 3200mhz 16cl
2666mhz 19cl 8gb x2 kit
3200mhz 16cl 16gb kit
3200mhz 16cl 16gb kit
Every kit has different chips inside

[frigid blade]

well, 2 kits, 4 dimms ftw

[solar moat]

wait what cpu did you say?

[frigid blade]

285k

[solar moat]

RIP

[solar moat]

https://tenor.com/uneCQP6AgyN.gif

[frigid blade]

we had it running stable 5400MT/s g2 on 13900kf with z790-c

but i changed something when trying to tune on my own and never got it stable again

[civic ferry]

It has been running extremely stable

[frigid blade]

im hoping this upgrade lets me run at least 6000

Here is the build

[solar moat]

lets say ddr5 9000 is limit from gear2 due
and imc just fail to run over 2250mhz imc aka gear 1 limit shoud be ddr5 5000

[frigid blade]

I still have to purchse the case fans and then i have everything

i cant wait for the case its sick that it has a bracket for fans for the motherboard specifically

and you can put the bracket sideways for drive cooling also if you want

[rigid fjord]

zen3 it's possible for 1:1:1 up to 3800 tbf, though golden ones can do 1:1:1 on 4000

[frigid blade]

Im looking at these case fans

[solar moat]

i was speaking on auto settigns

[frigid blade]

that should cool the RAM a lot better, it was failing tests from RAM overheating

[solar moat]

plug in load xmp

[rigid fjord]

3800 would be possible still on auto with xmp

[solar moat]

with maunal set fclk/uclk

[frigid blade]

also thats crazy that this exists: BGears b-Blaster 308CFM

sounds like a mini jet engine

[delicate lion]

Hello i need immediate help, my GPU is hot but fans have decided not to spin at all.

[pulsar root]

Which is preferable?
16 GB 2666 Mhz
48GB 2166 Mhz

[frigid blade]

i cant tell if im seeing the same people over and over again or everyone here has similar profiles

[solar moat]

GB of ram dont matter unless running out

[solar moat]

what/cpu/ram you got

[pulsar root]

i5-10400F

Ddr4

I’m trying to update the speed through over lock but is it preferable to have more memory at a lower speed ?

[frigid blade]

only if you need more memory

[pulsar root]

Oh

[frigid blade]

no reason at all to reduce the speed in exchange for more if youre not already running out

[pulsar root]

So if you use like 12 GB, the extra ram doesn’t do anything ?

[frigid blade]

maybe system uses a little more but i dont think it will help @solar moat what do you think?

[pulsar root]

I thought like if you add more ram, the system will allocate more and it will be more efficient or smth

[frigid blade]

lol

[solar moat]

GB dont matter unless runinig out

how many times do i need to say this

[pulsar root]

Ok

[frigid blade]

https://tenor.com/view/freak-out-gif-18501704

[solar moat]

what ram you got'

[frigid blade]

who

[solar moat]

@pulsar root

[pulsar root]

16 GB ddr4 was what the prebuilt came with and 2x16 GB ddr4 sticks added that my dad got like years ago

[solar moat]

ok i recomedn only useing the kit off 2x16GB

and maybe overclock it

[pulsar root]

Getting into bios on the Lenovo legion took like 8 tries

And I don’t think I could even overclock since the mouse wouldn’t move left and right

[sharp ivy]

Any suggestions for an operating system that's as lightweight as win XP? I'd like to upgrade on my Sony Vaio so I can use a secure OS but I only have 512MB DDR so Linux XFCE won't work

[delicate lion]

My gpu fans stopped spinning completely even though its hot.

[frigid blade]

did you try #1027757333117415424 yet

[delicate lion]

Never seem to get a response.

[sharp ivy]

try waiting

[delicate lion]

Great advice🫶🏻

[frigid blade]

@sharp ivy remember when I mentioned I was building that RC plane? I havent finished yet 🤣

[sharp ivy]

ohp

[frigid blade]

I got stuck on the radios, the ASR6601 just cant do enough data fast enough

[sharp ivy]

awh

[frigid blade]

its 915MHz LoRa so yah, low bandwidth and for some reason crazy high latency

gonna just go with the 2.4GHz ELRS reciever and transmitter

[sharp ivy]

I still haven't upgraded the power system on my 1.7 balsa plane

[sharp ivy]

2.4ghz is ideal

lowwwwwwww

[hexed tapir]

https://youtu.be/SATYQyIcimM?si=CH8e_tzsp_6CYn5a not sure it's a "usable" os

[sharp ivy]

latency

[sharp ivy]

1.44MB RAM?

[hexed tapir]

The storage space

[sharp ivy]

oh

storage is not the issue

just RAM usage

But I'll have a look

Oooh XFCE says it can run on minimum 256mb, just not well

[wheat torrent]

20 dollars????

nearly 15 years later and it's 20 dollars??

[radiant peak]

I'm getting 2D artifacts randomly with a 7900xtx, send prayers it's a driver thing (it probably isn't)

(mostly in browsers and 2D gaming, doesn't show up in screenshots )

[jaunty apex]

Wait till you see call of duty

https://steamdb.info/app/67370/

BTW to see historical sales

Cod 4 has only gotten to $10 still, mw3 to $20

[jaunty apex]

I liked 1 better tbh, shame never came to pc

[royal jackal]

Guys can I replace my iPhone XR screen with a OLED, cause on AliExpress they’re selling xr oleds but idk if that’s fake

[frigid blade]

XR uses LCD so no

[dusk patio]

I looked it up and the X had an OLED, so it's probably meant for that model instead

[royal jackal]

Oh alright thanks

[glossy veldt]

m wondering

did i get scammed by buying an a2000 6gb for $200?

refurbished, no temp issues at all though and doesn't have any issues other than the crappy dp to vga adapter i bought which dies every time the gpu is under load

or gets moved around

[frigid blade]

Rx 6650 xt is same price, faster, more VRAM

[random gyro]

is nvision a decent monitor brand? have been seeing them more commonly in my country and im thinking of buying one since theyre inexpensive

[clear canyon]

never heard of them

[glossy veldt]

i was gonna go for that one but in my country they were all over $300 usd equivalent

[near pine]

laptop 600€
or
tablet 700€

both are oled/amoled

cant decide? any thoughts? pros? cons?

[random gyro]

they make some REALLY CHEAP monitors that seem like good deals

[clear canyon]

cheap dont mean its good

so better do some research

[random gyro]

i know. thats why im asking for peope who have some experience.

[frigid blade]

Look at the reviews

[clear canyon]

google it

[dusk patio]

laptop is more useful imo

[frigid blade]

You’re probably not gonna find someone here who has experience with an unknown brand, but there’s almost certainly going to be reviews, and if there aren’t any reviews, then it’s probably not a good monitor

[glossy veldt]

you know the laptop is cheaper and has an i5 and double the storage

[fringe prairie]

tablet gets higher res and higher refresh rate (samsungs AR coating as well) but sucks if you want to do anything outside of a web browser or android apps

the ideapad can actually be used but 8gb (likely soldered) ram sucks

[random gyro]

fair enough, good reviews online

[glossy veldt]

but the tablet could be useful for idk an artist, watching movies, reading pdfs

[random gyro]

i think i might go for one hm..

[glossy veldt]

you can always get a laptop with a touchscreen too

[dusk patio]

yeah but you wouldn't type a paper on a tablet

[random gyro]

did some searching, lots of reddit forums bout em being not good long term

so i guess opinions are mixed (?)

[glossy veldt]

both have their uses

[near pine]

should i spend another 100€ for 16gb?

[fringe prairie]

yes

[frigid blade]

i5 doesn’t mean much unless you know the generation

[glossy veldt]

I'd choose a laptop for any reasonable college work, specially one with a lasting battery

[fringe prairie]

how much is aspire 14 oled

[glossy veldt]

that's a good observation but i think op is buying brand new?

[glossy veldt]

a quick google search tells me it comes with 13th gen i5

[fringe prairie]

what country is this

[frigid blade]

Yah I was looking right now, I’d choose the laptop based on pure performance

[glossy veldt]

it also tells me it should come with a sodimm slot

[clear canyon]

id just buy a name brand one then

[glossy veldt]

8gb soldered and up to 24gb which is good for some workstation uses

[random gyro]

most likely, im checking cheaper options from acer now

[clear canyon]

its prob not ur currency but you can get good monitors for around $100 USD

[frigid blade]

Wow that tablet CPU is actually quite fast

[glossy veldt]

I wouldn't know about monitors but I'd really be keen on reviews specially on oleds since they tend to burnin

[random gyro]

found a 120hz msi monitor for around that price at a physical store

[near pine]

sweden (would thisone be nice then?has diffrent processor)

[glossy veldt]

it's ARM though

[glossy veldt]

uh what cpu is this

[clear canyon]

if you have a walmart around you, check there, I got a 1440p 170hz monitor for 120 bucks last year

[dusk patio]

7735HS damnn that's the same as my laptop but with the RDNA graphics instead of Vega

[grizzled frost]

7735HS as stated in the name

[random gyro]

i dont live near one sadly

[near pine]

r7 7735hs

[random gyro]

i live in the philippines XD

[dusk patio]

8 core, Zen 3

[clear canyon]

damn

[agile stag]

is it possible to make a device that doesnt catastrophically kill itself or something uh imagine if apple couldnt make a device that lasts longer than a year what the fuck is even the move grr

[frigid blade]

AMD has some cool CPUs once you start with the models with the 780m

[random gyro]

this thing does look good though

[grizzled frost]

apple devices last for a long time, what are you talking about

[frigid blade]

$300 for a mini pc with iGPU performance of a 1650

[fringe prairie]

how much is the aspire 14, swift 14/16?

[frigid blade]

Includes the CPU, RAM, storage

[clear canyon]

thats alright

[dusk patio]

more expensive, however

[agile stag]

mine havent and id consider switching back to iphone almost because i realize i have not really many android benefits but my iphone really was a garbage item

[frigid blade]

$300 for the whole mini pc

[glossy veldt]

more power means less battery usually

[grizzled frost]

i have a friend still using her original iphone 16

[glossy veldt]

ryzens are sick tho

[agile stag]

i had a 12 and its a not pro model but the first one i had had issues with the button/faceid/breaking glass

[fringe prairie]

680M is still pretty competent

[grizzled frost]

and with their desktops/laptops, anything with M silicon lasts forever

[dusk patio]

I mean if you want a 780m

wait nvm that ain't CAD

[agile stag]

and then it had battery issues too later when the battery expanded

and then it got replaced with one that 100% died a few months later and thats when apple wanted to replace my phone

its literally one decice but it ran through all these failures are they like stapling the buttons onto the phones or something

[glossy veldt]

phone repairs are a kick to the head and not just apple

[agile stag]

oh also my camera died on the first 12 issue too*

[grizzled frost]

i have literally never heard of a camera dying on a phone, the fuck did you do

[agile stag]

yeah theyre pretty evil but man at that give me something that i trust and is splid

[agile stag]

i forgot exactly when it happened but uh one of the back camera or something didnt work at all

[near pine]

sale :/ goes for 1400€

[agile stag]

its insane though

[frigid blade]

Beginner gaming pc

[glossy veldt]

i once saw a classmate pay premium for an iphone 12 mini with 64gb of storage, a broken display, rear glass changed with a knockoff one, camera not working and a failing touchscreen

[frigid blade]

I started with a 1060 3GB, it’s faster than my first desktop lol

[agile stag]

and then i got cooked responsibility wise for everything somewhat uh the first set of issues i got the phone replaced for 100$ and then expanded batt was another 100 and then the other batt issue i had to do myself because apple declared my phone unfixable

[agile stag]

if you flip its fair because you probably just need a good donor but meh

people who pay premiums are losers since they lost,,

[glossy veldt]

im happy to have paid $200 for my 6gb a2000

[agile stag]

good deals are good

[glossy veldt]

it's insanely expensive on amazon and ebay

[agile stag]

huh those are pretty expensive

[frigid blade]

They shouldn’t be

$400+ new is wild

[agile stag]

i feel like they were cheaper in the past

[glossy veldt]

blower cards are just so sleek

workstation cards were expensive since the start

the build quality from PNY is superb though

the only thing i dislike is the noisy fan bearings

and the weird form factor

[frigid blade]

Hey, gotta sacrifice for cheaper cards

Wait PNY is still the cheaper brand when it comes to graphics cards right?

[glossy veldt]

inherently blower cards are noisy and workstation isn't meant for a gamer

the a2000 has a piano black finish to it and uses torx on the backplate for some reason

sturdy card with a really complex pcb too, an insane amount of SMD components on the back

[frigid blade]

Ima send the case fan sound when I finish this build and ping you

[fossil oar]

think i found the first ever 2tb drive in a dvr

damn its blurry

[glossy veldt]

id love to get a dvr and a big capacity drive

[fossil oar]

trust its a 2tb seagate you can tell by the 4 pixels in the corner of the drive XD

[glossy veldt]

i have an old 320gb wd caviar with ventoy and all of my isos it's so hilarious

[frigid blade]

It’s this like a goodwill DVR find? I saw videos on people scouring for DVRs for cheap

[glossy veldt]

you can use it as a normal drive but also install anything from it

what build

[glossy veldt]

forgot to reply lol

[fossil oar]

nope, i opened up our current dvr because the little 40mm fan doesnt spin

[frigid blade]

It’s gonna have 169CFM fans, I think 10

[fossil oar]

replaced with noctua of course

[glossy veldt]

Christ that might actually put up a fight against my second main computer

the big bad x3550

[rose sorrel]

I know jelly fin and stuff like that exists but Amazon pretty decent with keeping content on prime video ?

[fossil oar]

what are they, blowzookas?

[glossy veldt]

you know codo translates to elbow from spanish

you're my buddy elbow now

[frigid blade]

Iceberg Thermal IceGALE Xtra

6 of those, and then 4 120mms i havent figured out yet which fans for the 4

[rose sorrel]

I am asking till I can setop my jellyfin server does prime video any good ?

I mean by keeping content?

[glossy veldt]

oh they're normal case fans

[frigid blade]

yah just high airflow

[glossy veldt]

boyo hasn't heard 10.000 rpm fans before the IMM wakes up

[frigid blade]

nvm sorry I lied I forgot about the AIO so only 3 of those high CFM ones

[glossy veldt]

well it's pretty late now I'll go to bed

[frigid blade]

ill have to rethink the config now that i thought about that

[glossy veldt]

gn guys

[near pine]

hmmm is a snapdragon X plus 8c worth over ryzen 7735u?

[mint umbra]

Wonder how windows 12 will turn out lol

[vital marlin]

would you rather have a 9700x or a 9800x3d for 4k gaming?

[empty quartz]

Ngl, its still really cool how you can just play ios games on apple sillycon macbooks

[empty quartz]

Counter question, whats the fastest gaming cpu?

[dusk patio]

ARM on windows isn't the best for software compatibility

[vital marlin]

fair question, has to be zen 5

[empty quartz]

Wtf are you on about

9800x3d to answer your question though @vital marlin

[mint umbra]

Ai is a mistake

Cuz of ai mfs won't be able to get affordable PCs

[vital marlin]

what about 9900x non 3d?

more cores and faster, but no 3d v cache

[mint umbra]

Ppl told me other day that nivida drivers were good Linux now but I was watching video about it said that they would get micro stutters testing out their 5090 on Linux compared to smooth experience on amd

[fringe prairie]

useless imho

it’s 9600x performance in games and over $100 more than the 265k for prod

[vital marlin]

as in not needed for gaming in the next 5-8 years?

[fringe prairie]

no it’s just poorly priced

if you want non-x3d for just gaming better off getting a 9600x or 7600x

[vital marlin]

understand now

[civic ferry]

GeForce 8600 GT vs rx 6600

[hoary agate]

How do you guys like this computer?

[south arrow]

Lol if it works ya know

[sleek ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-fuck-is-that-full-metal-jacket-ronald-lee-ermey-hartman-gif-10321193652437803678

[hoary agate]

dell inspiron 15 motherboard and battery with a fan on top of the heatsink thats powered by another laptop

[inland atlas]

Is it bad that getting a 5080 is a better deal that trying to find someone selling a 4080/ super? Cause this shit is stupid
https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709 601469158 601408875 601432394 601408874 601469153&Order=1

[random gyro]

this design is amazing

[swift stream]

macbook concept videos in 2008:

[inland atlas]

If only they actually made this crap

[random gyro]

sup

[random gyro]

XD

this thing was a real product btw, and there are other laptops with the same hinge design

[random gyro]

what the

how is that cool 💀 😭

[random gyro]

cuz it is, jokes aside this is pretty good for gaming too

since you can put it up like a tablet when gaming with a controller/extra peripherals

[random gyro]

the bezel tho

[random gyro]

kbm > controller anyday

[random gyro]

who cares about bezel if you have a 17.3 inch 4K touch panel?

[random gyro]

some people (such as me, and others) use controller though, and i gave that as an EXAMPLE.

[grizzled frost]

depends on the game

[random gyro]

also you can have your screen closer to you i guess

[gusty wagon]

Oh its an ipad

[random gyro]

its a gaming laptop qwq

[fallow bluff]

Is 32 GB really the new default RAM size?

[gusty wagon]

16 is comfortable

I use a M5 with 8gb of ram

It's totally fine

[random gyro]

other laptops with this hinge is the acer conceptd and the microsoft surface laptop studio

[fallow bluff]

Well, I got 16 GB DDR4 (can't upgrade to DDR5 because of MOBO). I am feeling the pain when I am trying to play games.

[gusty wagon]

All i see are more points for mechanical failure

[gusty wagon]

You can use 32gb ddr4 and that's fine

Memory slowness is usually alleviated by having

• more memory
• faster speeds
• tighter timings

And in decreasing importance

[random gyro]

all laptops will fail eventually

[gusty wagon]

All humans will, too

[random gyro]

the earth will fail too

we all have an end

[gusty wagon]

This is IT, not doomsayer

[fallow bluff]

I ask this because I plan to buy a new GPU to replace the GTX 1650. Planning to get the RX 9070, but I wonder if I would also need to upgrade the RAM.

[random gyro]

oh yeah

that went dark

[fallow bluff]

mile yard stare

[random gyro]

it is nice seeing manafacturers innovate though

[carmine yew]

Most games are fine on 16 still, as long as you practice good pc hygiene

[gusty wagon]

You can always just go go with the GPU until RAM prices come back down

[grizzled frost]

the phrase is "thousand yard" stare, the way you said it is like saying kilometer meter stare

[gusty wagon]

The huge AI investments going around have momentarily tripled RAM prices

[fallow bluff]

Oh. Also, lol

[gusty wagon]

A thousand yards is roughly two miles, isn't it?

(I can't do imperial measurements)

[grizzled frost]

a thousand yards is a bit over .5 miles

[gusty wagon]

[grizzled frost]

there is 1760 yards to a mile

[gusty wagon]

I see

[mint umbra]

Who knows how long these ram prices will be like this

Could be quite a while

[gusty wagon]

What about the thousand lard stare?

[mint umbra]

With how in demand this ai junk is

[fallow bluff]

From I've heard on the AI grapevine, it's mostly because of NVIDIA and their plans to basically purchase ALL memory production till the end of 2026.

[gusty wagon]

Good, i'll have more time to wait until 11800X3D

[mint umbra]

Is that even legal

To buy all production of something

[fallow bluff]

They're making it legal, they got connections.

[carmine yew]

And like I expected: canceled due to pricing error

I'm completely unsurprised

[mortal jackal]

Rip

[carmine yew]

Eh, I'm over it

[grizzled frost]

yeah, they don't have to follow US law because it's not happening in the US

[regal marlin]

is it wise to build a pc on carpet?

[swift stream]

https://youtu.be/YbT0xy_Jai0?si=6kDibY_-cVAj8L1y

[south arrow]

Just dont put your mobo on it directly, preferably, but likely fine if you dont have a table space

[zealous plover]

Should I upgrade my 27 inch 1080p 75hz Moniter for an rx 9060 xt to a 1440p lg ultra gear

[formal sonnet]

Not really no. Grab yourself a piece of cardboard or at the very least, assemble the thing on your motherboard's cardboard box.

[regal marlin]

im talking about standing on carpet mb

idk if thats dumb but

[swift stream]

😔 😔 💀 how did we fall for ts
https://youtu.be/D3J7R6WBJJc?si=sK3hj9druKcKTxok

[formal sonnet]

That's much less dangerous. So long as your carpet isn't made of pure wool and you're not rubbing your socks along it with every step, you're likely fine. In my 20+ years doing computers, I've never static shorted anything, and I don't take any precautions with circuit boards.

[regal marlin]

im just not gonna wear socks 😂

[grizzled frost]

i've built most of my servers on carpet on my bed

[swift stream]

imagine having hardwood

[hardy horizon]

https://youtu.be/nXkgbmr3dRA

[regal marlin]

i do lmao

i just dont want to build upstairs in my kitchen

[regal marlin]

my pc case is huge and heavy asf

[regal marlin]

wtf is that

[swift stream]

gta 6