tech-chat-1

[proper gull]

Which is exactly why the standards suck. You shouldn't be allowed to do this

[ocean axle]

weird, but I've seen weirder in the NEC

[buoyant bridge]

you can mostly safely do 2 120V breakers but it introduced the risk of overheating the neutral if someone tries to pull 240V

[buoyant bridge]

If you're not pulling 240V off this it's perfectly safe

[ocean axle]

No?

If you pull 240v, nothing goes over the neutral

[hidden charm]

Is caldigit ts5 plus a good buy if I want multiple display support for mac?
I guess I might also need a kvm if I wanna swap between my mac and pc?
https://noerdic.se/products/caldigit-ts5-plus-20-port-thunderbolt-5-dock-140w-charging-3x-80gb-s-thunderbolt-5-10x-10gb-s-usb-ports

[buoyant bridge]

pulling 240V with 120V loads like a dryer does will overheat the neutral

[ocean axle]

The maximum load for the neutral is a single 120v leg at max load, and the other at nothing

Assuming you are on opposite phases

The reason the NEC wants a common-trip is to force the separate phases physically

[buoyant bridge]

Split circuit is only safe on opposite phases so

[proper gull]

What breakers you source from wouldn't change anything... The neutral is the same neutral no matter what. 20A over both lines both being fed back over the one neutral is a problem no matter what

[buoyant bridge]

The outlets in my desk are actually split phase with 2 plugs at the outlets

[ocean axle]

That's not how this works at all

[buoyant bridge]

That's how most electric dryers work😭

[proper gull]

What are you smoking bud

[buoyant bridge]

They have a 240V load and a 120V load

[ocean axle]

A 240v load will reduce the amount on the neutral

[buoyant bridge]

that's why they need the neutral usually

[ocean axle]

For the same wattage

[plain cypress]

Leaded solder fumes

[proper gull]

This human doesn't understand how phases work

[buoyant bridge]

Split circuits right here

[gleaming meteor]

angry pixies come out one end and try to get to the other

[buoyant bridge]

Top and bottom are on different circuts

[plain cypress]

Why is there electricity in the floor

[buoyant bridge]

That's a desk?

[gleaming meteor]

i think thats a desk

[buoyant bridge]

I mean I have electrical outlets in my floor too

[plain cypress]

Huh

[buoyant bridge]

my living room is too big so I ended up adding 4 outlets down the center of the room with carpet over the pop-up so I have outlets there

[plain cypress]

Perspective makes it look like flooring but I'll take your word for it

[buoyant bridge]

Most states allow in floor outlets under certain conditions

[proper gull]

Oh god, up facing outlets... Something that also shouldn't be allowed unless they're designed for it with a cap

[buoyant bridge]

they're downstream of a GFCI so they're fine

if something spills the GFCI trips

[proper gull]

Don't even get me started on American GFCIs

[gleaming meteor]

dude is it that hard to make a hole in your wall

oh wait american walls are paper

nevermind

[buoyant bridge]

I'm not placing a hole at 40"

[buoyant bridge]

No? I have a outlet box cutter, it was easier to just add them to the desk

convient too

[gleaming meteor]

spills anything - joever

[buoyant bridge]

GFCIs exist for a reason

[gleaming meteor]

itll trip sure but then you have to replace it or somehow remove the drink from inside

[buoyant bridge]

I've spilled stuff on these before they're PVC boxes so they just drain out the bottom and it's downstream if a GFCI so it shuts off

[gleaming meteor]

good luck on that part

[buoyant bridge]

PVC outlet boxes literally just drain when they're installed like this

[gleaming meteor]

weird how americans have no plug fuses

well EU standard doesnt either

[buoyant bridge]

that's.. what a GFCI does in the US

[gleaming meteor]

expensive though

[proper gull]

no that isn't what GFCIs do

[buoyant bridge]

If there's a ground fault it shuts the outlet off

[buoyant bridge]

They're like $4

Normal outlets are $1-$2 you only need one GFCI per circuit if you wire it as the first outlet

[gleaming meteor]

i mean itll blow the fuse in the plug and then the house fuse too

in the UK

[buoyant bridge]

I've never seen that happen in the US

[proper gull]

UK plugs are fused because of ring mains

[gleaming meteor]

holy cheap

[frigid blade]

Europe is using drywall more and more, lol

[buoyant bridge]

The US electrical system costs like nothing

[buoyant bridge]

I have wooden panel walls

I plastered some of them

but there's wood under them still

[gleaming meteor]

well i guess 120v stuff is easier to make cheap

[buoyant bridge]

I mean it's not as spicy, not as lethal (it can kill you too don't get me wrong) doesn't need as much safety equipment to prevent fires. Contacting and fusing is simplier

[gleaming meteor]

they have been but dont many homes in the us use fucking water proofing material only on top of the studs outside, covered with shiplap

and then same inside but drywall

[buoyant bridge]

you've clearly never seen a Midwest home.

Midwestern homes are water and temperature insulated to all fuck and back that's why they're so cheap to heat and cool

[gleaming meteor]

ive never been in the us

[proper gull]

I see you've seen Cy's shorts on the garbage being built in Az, it's not like this everywhere

[gleaming meteor]

noted

[buoyant bridge]

Like I've ripped up 2 of the walls in my house both where literally air traps before I pulled the walls off

[proper gull]

Timber houses can be built very well

[buoyant bridge]

They had plastic sheeting on both sides, insulation and water tape on top and bottom

and they where blocked at 48" all the way down

[frigid blade]

The only way you’re missing anything important is purchasing from a cheap builder

[gleaming meteor]

we have to tear down the whole extension actually because when it was built in 1920 the dumbass making it decided to not put any waterproofing on the foundation, so the roof beams are like

tasty rot to hell

and the whole extension is breaking off the house 😭

never trust irish builders

[frigid blade]

My father decided to rebuild our current home himself

[proper gull]

Tbf they didn't know it was a problem in 1920

[frigid blade]

We did it in 2 years

[buoyant bridge]

renovate or rebuild?

[frigid blade]

Rebuild, roof gone, interior and exterior of the walls gone, extensions

[buoyant bridge]

My husband and I are actually considering buying a condemned house in NY or NV and tearing it down and just building a new house because it requires like 12 less permits to do that

[proper gull]

We have an owner-builder exemption here aswell but the banks don't like to finance such projects

[gleaming meteor]

yeah thats fair but itll be 50k to redo the whole thing icl labor

[frigid blade]

He did the new framing and roof, we ordered some people to do the foundation for the extensions

[gleaming meteor]

we legally dont need planning permits either

since the extension will be within the area of the house in the original like i think 1890 ish plans

only thing we doing is building more up

[frigid blade]

We only needed a single permit

The old garage was turned into the master bedroom and then a new 3 car garage was added

The house looks very long now

The most fun part is taking a sledge hammer at the interior walls

The worst part is the insulation after that

Yesterday I ran some Ethernet

Through some tight ass crevices in the ceiling

Worst job ever

[glass crest]

Hey looking for advice with L connect software

Can I mess with my fan configurations without any future issues, like if I have no clue what I’m doing but I want to make my fan speed maxed out

[buoyant bridge]

Use your bios for fan speed configs

[glass crest]

Why not L connect?

If I just do it from the software no issues will happen?

[buoyant bridge]

bios is most reliable way to do it

[tulip sparrow]

Every time I see this something seems to have been added

[buoyant bridge]

I mean they can

depends on like everything

[distant frigate]

Damn

[buoyant bridge]

My motherboard doesn't like you tweaking fan configs in the OS and will boot at full fan speed till you change the bios fan settings again

[distant frigate]

This home is in pretty decent condition

[buoyant bridge]

And they won't get out of full speed till whatever software you used to change them starts again

[frigid blade]

Oh yah, I hate city ordinances sometimes, they forced us to install industrial sized sprinklers in the home because we were removing more than 50% of the interior walls

[distant frigate]

The home had a major renovation in 2009 or so. Idk how much was the cost but it was like $100,000+

[frigid blade]

That shit is expensive

[glass crest]

What motherboard brand do u have?

[frigid blade]

$15k for the whole house

[distant frigate]

The whole living room, kitchen, hallway and bedrooms were redone

[buoyant bridge]

MSI Z690 PRO and MSI Z690 Godlike

[distant frigate]

Also the floors were redone too

[frigid blade]

Floors are fun to do

[buoyant bridge]

and my Asus W790-ACE does this too but only on reboots not cold boots

[distant frigate]

Living room and kitchen is nice

[frigid blade]

We added a softer plywood under the hardwood to reduce squeaking

[frigid blade]

That’s nice

[buoyant bridge]

chat should I continue engaging in safety

[distant frigate]

My moms bedroom and my bedroom and the hallway

[gleaming meteor]

i think safety leaves me once i start making my pc

[buoyant bridge]

Or do I remove the strap

[distant frigate]

We had the roof and chimney redone in 2023

[frigid blade]

Sorry bad photo here’s how ours turned out

[distant frigate]

That was like $30,000

Shingles and plywood

The roof was in worse condition than we thought

[south arrow]

Always be safe

[frigid blade]

We had to tear down the entire roof because there was no way to only take apart a bit and the extension

[distant frigate]

Next up is the patio

We will be doubling the size of the patio

[frigid blade]

Is the patio the two slabs?

[distant frigate]

The new patio yes

It will be made of those slabs

[frigid blade]

Sorry that came out mean, that’s all I can see, I thought you meant that’s what the current patio looked like

[distant frigate]

This is our current patio

[frigid blade]

Yours is bigger than ours

[distant frigate]

Well it’s about to get 2x bigger lol

[frigid blade]

We just have a sidewalk going around the house that we use as a “patio”

[distant frigate]

Hopefully there’s more space for more tables and for my mom to have an outdoor clothesline

[frigid blade]

We want to build a new patio but with a cover

[distant frigate]

After the yard is probably the mudroom

This mudroom doesn’t look nice

[frigid blade]

My dad used chatGPT to generate photos of what he wanted

[distant frigate]

We might get the walls and flooring of the mudroom redone as well as new insulation

[frigid blade]

He wants this without that weird sidewalk

[distant frigate]

Damn that patio is nice

[gleaming meteor]

this thing

[gleaming meteor]

safety™

3.8L now instead of 4L

[opal dock]

Man, do NZXT fans ever go on Black Friday sale? I'm trying finish filling up my H7 Flows spots for fans, but my ocd will not allow me to get ones that don't match the ones that came with the case. $20 for a single 120mm is wild

[quasi field]

Just got 2 of the most dense powerbank available

[opal dock]

They absolutely do not. Probably gonna go take a bath with my PSU ig

[nimble burrow]

Anyone here know how amd is with video editing, blender and stuff? Considering a 9070xt but might go for a 5070 if it works better for that (i do game as well and yes the 9070xt is probably better)

[carmine quartz]

How do I fix the issue where if I alt tab, the application just wont open? like it does but then it just dissapears

[quasi field]

It’s ok, honestly you shouldn’t worry too much about video editing. Would go with a 9070XT just for the 4 gig also 9070XT is faster at $599 (if you can’t get it)

[dusk patio]

the main difference is with Blender, since it takes advantage of CUDA cores on Nvidia cards

[nimble burrow]

The 2 pcs i looked at (yes theyre prebuilts) theyre at near identical prices are 9700x + 9070xt and 7800x3d + 5070

[quasi field]

Yea, but most of the time 9070XT out performs 5070, if you can’t find a 9070XT for the same price as a 5070 I’d go for that. The 5070 isn’t a bad card, just a bad price it’s closer to like a $399 card not a $549 one

[dusk patio]

look up Blender benchmarks if you really care about rendering speed I guess

[nimble burrow]

Is a 9070xt overkill for 1080p?

[quasi field]

Can be, but you will probably be cpu bottlenecked

[dusk patio]

kinda, but at least it'll run basically everything on 1080p ultra

[quasi field]

Like 9070XT on Ultra would be good

[nimble burrow]

The 9700x would bottleneck it?

[dusk patio]

I think they meant more for like eSports games where you're just trying to get as many frames per second as possible

[quasi field]

Bottle necks on the high end don’t matter that much… like yes 1080p will be a bottleneck you’ll get more fps, the higher the res the less fps. The more pixels rendered.

[nimble burrow]

What about a 5070ti

[quasi field]

5070ti is a neutered 5080

So close to a 5080 for about $150 less

(Normally if you can find it for $850 or less)

[thick hound]

can my rm750 run a 7900xt and 7800x3d

[quasi field]

I have a 5090, I run at 1080p sometimes yes lots of fps. I wouldn’t get a worse card because your monitor is a bottleneck I would get a card based on your budget

If you want higher fps get a faster card, if you want more budget get a card that fits your needs

[nimble burrow]

Is it overkill for 1080p tho?

[quasi field]

Overkill… overkill would be a 5090

I bet you can still push a 5070ti even at 1080p

But short answer sorta… if you have full path tracing in cyberpunk than no…

[nimble burrow]

I dont plah cyberpunk

[quasi field]

What are your games?

[nimble burrow]

The most demanding game id br playing i think (could be wrong) is hogwarts legacy

And probably cities skylines 2 comes next or beamng im very unsure

[quasi field]

You got a 60hz 1080p monitor?

[nimble burrow]

165

[quasi field]

I’d recommend a better monitor lol

[nimble burrow]

1 32 inch 1080p 165 hz (ik thats pretty terrible but i sit far enough its fine) 1 27 inch 165 and 1 75hz monitor

[quasi field]

32in at 1080p YIkes

[nimble burrow]

The 75hz monitor is just a random one i have

[quasi field]

I have a 27in 1440p

[nimble burrow]

I knew i should have went for 1440

Cant change what happened

I should upgrade the 75hz monitor to something better one day tho

[nimble burrow]

2 out of the 3 monitors are curved 💀

[quasi field]

It’s alright… I use a 1440p with a 5090…

[nimble burrow]

I got those monitors like 3 years ago. Back then i didnt know as much

[quasi field]

which can be considered overkill by some

[nimble burrow]

Depends what you play

[quasi field]

I have a 165hz 1080p as well

[nimble burrow]

If its valorant its 100% overkill

I wonder if youd get 1000 fps in that game

[quasi field]

I get 4,000 fps in Minecraft at 1440p

[nimble burrow]

Insane

[quasi field]

In Fortnite at 1440p I get around 800-1000fps

[nimble burrow]

While im sitting barely at 200 at 1080p with a 2060

Part of why im upgrading

[nimble burrow]

Maxed rtx?

I definitely want to be able to experience rtx with my next pc

[quasi field]

Oh hell nah RTX gets like 120fps no joke

With dlls it gets like 500

But that’s like cheating

[nimble burrow]

Im still stuck on what pc to get 💀

Might see if theres a 5070ti pc at the same price

[nimble burrow]

Which dlss setting

[random gyro]

i feel like this isnt true

but who knows

[odd marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/lighthouse-the-lighthouse-wake-laugh-wake-laughing-gif-5252594120951449508

[random gyro]

i dont get the concept of upgrading every year

[nimble burrow]

Same

[random gyro]

whats the point of getting it new when in 4 years itll be 1/4th the price?

[odd marsh]

for me personally it's not about the uplift, but I just like the hardware and the engineering behind it, and want to mess with that

[nimble burrow]

Expensive hobby

[random gyro]

insane,

[nimble burrow]

Until you compare to those car guys with their expensive builds lmao

[odd marsh]

but I enjoy it so 🤷

[nimble burrow]

Good

[quasi field]

Highest I’ve ever gotten was 1300fps

[random gyro]

meanwhile those whom collect designer bags

[nimble burrow]

Atleast you can find a car to fuq around with for 600 usd

[quasi field]

I still get UE5 stutters though… nothing can save you from that

[random gyro]

SCREW YOU WINDOWS

i try to do my school work on my laptop

but it doesnt wanna :(
all for an update that changes nothing!

[nimble burrow]

Nice excuse to your teacher lul

[random gyro]

i have that atleast

also yes gaming laptop, it does all of my things good and i wont upgrade it for 6 to 8 years

[nimble burrow]

Genuinely curious is it overkill for a kid to have a 5070ti (or 9070xt)

[random gyro]

yeah probably

the 5060ti or 5050 is good for any fortnite kid

[solar moat]

gtx 970 is good for 200fps at 1080p low

[nimble burrow]

I dont mean a fortnite kid

[random gyro]

1080

[quasi field]

Personally the 9070XT is hella worth it at the price… don’t get a 5050 unless you dislike yourself, it’s as powerful as like a 1080ti but 8gb of gddr6 in 2025 kinda sucks

[quasi field]

I’d be different if it was a laptop chip

[nimble burrow]

I considered getting a 5050 in a laptop

Only because id probably have a nice desktop

[quasi field]

5050 laptop should be less than $800

Specs wise

[nimble burrow]

How much vram is the 9070xt

[random gyro]

what games

[nimble burrow]

Even a ps4 is good enough for a fortnite kid

Seen it

[random gyro]

agreed, a kid doesnt need much to have fun

[nimble burrow]

Def not eSports games

Shit like fortnite, valorant, rocket league etc

[quasi field]

16gb gddr6X

Can decently OC too

[nimble burrow]

How well?

[quasi field]

10-15% oc I’ve seen

[nimble burrow]

Managed to oc the vram on my 2060 by 1500mhz

💀

[quasi field]

How to kill your vram speed run

[nimble burrow]

The gpu itself tho only like 75 mhz

[random gyro]

ps4 does those ez

[nimble burrow]

I dont run it that high anymore

Anywhere between 500 to 750 now

[nimble burrow]

Not valorant

Valorant is ps5

[random gyro]

a gaming laptop with a gtx 1650

used ones go for 300 ez, and they can even use it for school

[nimble burrow]

@random gyro so... is a 5070 ti (9070xt) over kill for a kid?

[quasi field]

I’ve ran my 5090 at 17,000mhz vram

[random gyro]

yep

[quasi field]

She got hotttt

[nimble burrow]

Impressive tho

[nimble burrow]

What should a kid have?

[quasi field]

But I got some crazy ass numbers on benchmark

[random gyro]

1650 super is enough

[nimble burrow]

I wanna see them 🤣🫡

[random gyro]

hell, 1060 is enough

[nimble burrow]

Thats what my brother has.....

[wispy thunder]

how kid, kid? (age wise)

[nimble burrow]

In laptop form

[random gyro]

acer nitro 5?

[nimble burrow]

Or it could be a 1650ti

[odd marsh]

I see no reason for him to not have a good experience

[nimble burrow]

I dont remember all i know is there is a 1650 in front of it

[nimble burrow]

Asus tuf idfk what model

[wispy thunder]

avoid TUF

[nimble burrow]

Has had a thousand problems enough for me to give asus a second thought lol

[wispy thunder]

yeah that's kinda obvious

[quasi field]

Going on vacation I’ll see if I can find them

[nimble burrow]

Thats what i want to do for the next laptop i get

Plus i hate how tuf laptops look and feel

[random gyro]

tuf is alright, there are better options tho

[wispy thunder]

as far as asus laptops go, Zephy or bust.

[wispy thunder]

it's not alright

[nimble burrow]

What about their creator stuff?

[wispy thunder]

actually ykw, I'll put my foot down and say just avoid Asus until they stop using LM

[nimble burrow]

Whats LM? Liquid metal?

[wispy thunder]

UNLESS you're confident in cleaning up LM and replace with PTM

yes

[nimble burrow]

Iirc 13

[wispy thunder]

k a 13 year old should be using iGPU.

[nimble burrow]

Failure of a brother i am for barely remembering his birthday

[nimble burrow]

Ikr thats what i had when i was 13

[wispy thunder]

no 13 year old needs to be super good at gaming, keep them humble

keep them focused on school

[nimble burrow]

In fact i still remember it

Intel hd 4400

I still remember getting a victory royale in fortnite with it

[wispy thunder]

just two years ago when my laptop was new

what the shit is that LM

I had core deltas upwards of 15C

PTM'd it immediately after buying

[nimble burrow]

My brothers had the wifi fail on him the bluetooth fail on him a fan bearing fail on him

Its crazy

[quasi field]

Says 16,000mhz in this photo but I’ve gotten it to 17,000mhz I’m just not at my computer to show you https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/380519382721495048/1385858291338317925/IMG_6894.jpg?ex=6920a55c&is=691f53dc&hm=ded3c04ad5d4e68c4e46b3aabccedd0072b08e39b4d6926fa6a186acf2dd6746&

[nimble burrow]

I mean he does use it a ton

[nimble burrow]

Insane

[quasi field]

I’ve also ran the pc on a battery lmao, I undervolted the gpu so it would draw only 75watts

[nimble burrow]

I feel a 1650 is almost even overkill for what he plays

Valorant roblox and geometry dash lmao

[wispy thunder]

again, no kid needs anything more than an iGPU

at the very least - not for gaming

[nimble burrow]

Im pretty sure even igpus are more powerful than a laptop 1650 now lmao

[wispy thunder]

I have some younger cousins doing CAD assemblies that I could only dream of doing - that's a completely different scenario

[quasi field]

They are and I love that

[wispy thunder]

but for unproductive things like gaming, 60hz basic pc is enough.

[nimble burrow]

Depends what they play.....

However

[wispy thunder]

no.

[nimble burrow]

Todays kids play stuff that are so easy to run a basic pc could run it

[quasi field]

I want more things like the Advanced Micro Devices Ryzen 395+ artifice intelligence max

[wispy thunder]

a 13 year old does not need to be gaming.

[stark kiln]

I'm so happy with my new PC rn

[nimble burrow]

In fact my friend has a pc that doesnt even have a dedicated gpu

Runs valorant fine lol

[nimble burrow]

Will be me after i stop being indecisive on what pc i want

[nimble burrow]

Nah kids can be gaming

Just in reason

[stark kiln]

Mine had i5 7500 and GTX 1660S and 32gb of ram. I'm happy AF it runs everything I play

[nimble burrow]

Like gaming 4+ hours every day is bad

[stark kiln]

Hell even modern titled like BF 2042

[nimble burrow]

Is that your new pc or your old one?

[stark kiln]

(just give the HDD time to load stuff in)

[quasi field]

4 hours… ehe yea 4 hours

[stark kiln]

New I had a laptop before

[nimble burrow]

Sweet i still dont know what pc to get

[stark kiln]

What's your budget

[nimble burrow]

Im just trying to decide whether to go for the one thats 7800x3d + 5070 or the one thats 9070xt + 9700x

Can say the 5070 pc probably has a better mobo

[stark kiln]

Hope it runs rdr2

[nimble burrow]

Im probably the worlds indecisive person

[random gyro]

different experiences then smh

[nimble burrow]

Check the requirements

[stark kiln]

It's good dw

It can run

[random gyro]

no strix? rog strix good too u know

[nimble burrow]

I feel like my biggest indecisive thing here is whether to go for a 5070 or a 9070xt

[random gyro]

for your brother right?

[nimble burrow]

Me

[random gyro]

ohh

[nimble burrow]

😏🤣

[random gyro]

go for 5070 for raytracing

9070xt for raw power

[nimble burrow]

I wish there were 5070tis at this price

Then id be able to go for what i want

[stark kiln]

Get a gt 710

[plain cypress]

What region

[nimble burrow]

Theres a pc in my house with a gt730A

[nimble burrow]

Pcs with a 5070ti

[wispy thunder]

For as long as Lenovo Legion exists and Asus continues to use Liquid Metal, I will not recommend any Asus gaming laptop.

Armory Crate is beyond shit too

[nimble burrow]

What about an asus desktop

[wispy thunder]

GHelper negates that 100% but still annoying

[random gyro]

NO!

[nimble burrow]

Im pretty sure the pc i saw with a 9070xt is a asus pc

[random gyro]

my dad had a strix g15, it was good, armoury crate was eh though

[nimble burrow]

While the one with the 5070 is some in-house pc brsnd from this computer store

[plain cypress]

What is PCS region

[wispy thunder]

Generally alright, their GPUs, AIOs, PSUs, etc. are all on the pricier side for the quality but they're otherwise fine

[molten sleet]

vouch for how shit armory crate is but i think there's too much of a risk of getting a lemon from legion

[nimble burrow]

The great white north

Snow version of Australia

[plain cypress]

Quebecoise

[wispy thunder]

There's even greater risk in getting a lemon from Asus; their customer support is even worse

[nimble burrow]

Fuq the québécois

Lmao

[plain cypress]

Am I supposed to use the é

[nimble burrow]

Idk

[molten sleet]

real i had to repaste my zephyrus but my friend is experiencing first hand lenovo's qc

[wispy thunder]

Yeah uh, have they reached a month worth of back and forth yet or no?

[nimble burrow]

Probably the mobos too

[molten sleet]

he's not techy he just brought it to microcenter and they've been holding onto it for the better part of a month

[nimble burrow]

The 5070 pc (through pictures) looks to have a better mobo

[wispy thunder]

oh microcenter I'm not sure how they handle warranty

normally when you talk about a brands customer service, it's more sending the device in directly to the brand's service centre

[molten sleet]

i was moreso referring to their quality control

his laptop came with a stripped screw and the keyboard began dying like 6 months after he bought it

[wispy thunder]

you... haven't seen Zephyrus issues have you?

[molten sleet]

anecdotal but my g14 only needed a repaste

[wispy thunder]

Two of my Zephyrus laptops have had failing keyboards, one somehow got image retention on an LCD

not to mention the bullshit Liquid metal I had to deal with

[stark kiln]

Gt 710 solos a 5090

[plain cypress]

Mine the keyboard started acting up and sent miscellaneous inputs

[molten sleet]

yk now that i think ab it i also had image retention but it seemed to come and go, i only noticed it bc of the chrome logo on my taskbar

[plain cypress]

Both of my Asus laptops the main boards were replaced under warranty

[wispy thunder]

Fortunately I haven't had this issue, but the hinge on older (pre-2025) Zephyrus models would just break off the screen side

[plain cypress]

Really?

Mine seems super solid tbh

[wispy thunder]

yeah it's odd

again not my image but

[plain cypress]

It is difficult to understand exactly what I am seeing in that photo

[nimble burrow]

Where

[wispy thunder]

from what I can tell, the mounting point for the hinge is somehow like epoxied onto the screen casing

[molten sleet]

yk it's funny bc i swear i only hear about these kinds of things on higher end, purpose-built laptops. i dont recall ever having any issues with a $300 dell laptop

[stark kiln]

Power consumption and convenience

[plain cypress]

Oh damn

[wispy thunder]

here's another from reddit

[nimble burrow]

I think its more convient to have high fps in the games

[wispy thunder]

again fortunately I didn't have that issue so it might be fairly limited

but still kinda tragic

[molten sleet]

this is my issue with the legion keyboards. apparently it's a known, wide-spread issue with their 2022 models or smth yet retailers still sell these things as refurbed or even new for full msrp

[wispy thunder]

2022???

[molten sleet]

i tihnk

[wispy thunder]

brother a 3 year old can walk and talk

[molten sleet]

def later

his has a 4060

[stark kiln]

But can you carry around a 5090 and when you hear "shit this doesn't boot up" can you take it out and stick it in the PC?

[wispy thunder]

I'm talking about laptops from 2020-2024 for Asus Zephy

[stark kiln]

And does a gt710 consume 500w of power?

[wispy thunder]

no

[wispy thunder]

oh that should be 2023

[nimble burrow]

Depends

[random gyro]

"touch grass"

screw it, vivid/stasis outside

[nimble burrow]

I feel like it would fit in the pants i have that can fit a whole water bottle

[hardy horizon]

Anyone have this issue with google drive on mac? If so do you know how to fix it? Its been 20 minutes.

[midnight wind]

i imagine a 5090 would be significantly more power efficient than a gt 710 when given equivalent workload

[hallow dust]

tryna build a new pc using the Lian Li O11Vision matx case and im tryna vertical mount my gpu from what ive seen this cooler master vertical mount is compatiable but not sure if it need some customization not sure if anyone here knows how good the fit is just wanting to know how easy it is is it just plug and play or did you have to do some customizing

[stark kiln]

The gt710 won't melt your power cable though

[stark kiln]

Some people will say you are very excited so not best option outside

[nimble burrow]

I saw your original message

Some people want to be that big lol

[stark kiln]

It got filtered

[stark kiln]

I mean if they're into that I can't judge

[random gyro]

sup folks

[stark kiln]

Hello

[south arrow]

I never let google sync to my devices as its notorious for trying to download literally everything lol id go to settings disable it then reboot. Then re open google to delete anything it grabbed that you didnt want in there

[random gyro]

hows it going

[nimble burrow]

People complaining about it being too big is also a thing

[nimble burrow]

A 9070xt wont either

[stark kiln]

But is it portable?

Gt710 supremacy still stands

[nimble burrow]

It can probably fit in the same pocket

🤣💀🫡

[stark kiln]

1 makes you look like a creep. 1 makes people feel pity because of how poor you are and maybe give you a quarter or 2

[nimble burrow]

Having a 9070xt doesnt make you poor

Signed, a not rich person

[stark kiln]

No the gt710 makes you look poor

[hardy horizon]

it can only do that if you set it to mirror, if you set it to stream its basically a cloud network drive.

[buoyant bridge]

Ive sropped rhat impact off 3rd story roofs before and it was fine

[south arrow]

All i know is it popped up once, on accident I clicked w/o seeing what I clicked and it begun lol

Took me a fat minute to clear it all out not a favored expierence

Think I had a similar woops on android but that one was my fault, and luckily caught it before it got to crazy

[unborn condor]

so i emailed asrock tech support asking what screws i need for the pressure plate and the back plate of my gpu because they're starting to strip and i need new ones, and this is what they sent me:

what the actual fuck even is this

[grizzled frost]

an extremely detailed specification of the correct screw

[south arrow]

Down to the thread width, I see what they put for ya but still no clue the bit head lol

Its a cross maybe a Philips but like id have to see the gpu screw that you have

[unborn condor]

I just need to know which screw I need lol

That and I specifically asked for the screw for the backplate AND the pressure plate, unless they're both the same but I don't think they are

[south arrow]

Show pics of the ones you got and gpu model

[unborn condor]

RX 7900XTX Phantom Gaming 24GB OC

[cold skiff]

Probably the worlds most beautiful AMD GPU backplate

[south arrow]

Browsing for ya does appear to be lil Philips heads

From what im seeing replacing the x bracket should come with screws

[unborn condor]

I do see that but like I def need to know exactly which ones, these screws (especially the pressure plate ones) probably only got one more use in them before they're stripped out entirely

[glossy veldt]

should i buy this 38" big ass crt

[unborn condor]

Can I even buy a replacement x bracket?

[unborn condor]

Yes

[cold skiff]

Yes

[glossy veldt]

nvm its $100

[cold skiff]

Remember to take a crane with you to get it

[glossy veldt]

big crt will have to wait

[glossy veldt]

or break my back in the process of carrying it

[south arrow]

https://a.co/d/77A1Ky1

Finding a few kits but not 100% wich ones still browsing

[unborn condor]

I think those are all too long

[south arrow]

Grok can tell me all the specifics but finding where to get it is a bit trixie

[unborn condor]

At this point all I need is the length

[charred hare]

https://www.dexerto.com/tiktok/new-study-reveals-tiktok-instagram-content-actually-rots-your-brain-3285565/

[south arrow]

If i find an exact ill ping ya

@thorny saddle lol digged through the web so much found snails

[rose stream]

Took them that long to realize this. Sheesh...

[devout rain]

this mobo good for 9800x3d? https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B650-AORUS-AX-Motherboard/dp/B0CMK1W2YX/ref=sr_1_1

[clear canyon]

i have that board for my 7800x3d, I think its solid

[devout rain]

yea but for a 9800x3d?

[clear canyon]

yeah?

[devout rain]

so u dont think i have to upgrade board?

[clear canyon]

whats ur current board?

but you can run it on any am5 board

[devout rain]

im building a new pc, i want this baord for a 9800x3d, will it be good?

[south arrow]

Honestly after browsing many confused threads just take 1 good screw out to the hardware store and get a match ❤️ or a kit from Amazon that has a range of gpu screws

[devout rain]

yea itl run but are there any comprimises im making with sticking to this board with a 9800x3d

[south arrow]

Think theyre a quarter or less last I checked

[clear canyon]

no

[devout rain]

why just so i know for the future

[clear canyon]

its fine for a normal user

[devout rain]

yea im not crazy overclocking

thanks

[clear canyon]

I mean for over the top ports and PCIE gen 5 lanes

[clear canyon]

yeah np

[devout rain]

yea pcie gen 4 is good right

like not much of a difference

[clear canyon]

not for gpus, gen5 is only useful for drives currently for most ppl

[devout rain]

yea i have a pcie gen 4 drive anyways

[gusty wagon]

But share price go up

[devout rain]

wait its a pcie gen 5 board

[clear canyon]

the one you linked has pcie 5 for nvme

[devout rain]

ahh

[devout rain]

should i get pcie gen 5 drive or nah

[clear canyon]

its what ever you want

if you do only gaming, then it wont matter

[devout rain]

perf thanks

[clear canyon]

gen5 drives are only useful for applications that are drive heavy like video editing

[south arrow]

Hate that I cant find those exact screws though gonna bother me for awhile. The spring kit i posted earlier should work but like mehhh

[glass crest]

What can cause taskbar loops refreshing?

Is that just chipset drivers being buggy?

[glass crest]

My first day back from getting my pc at microcenter repair shop I just updated chipset drivers so idk I hope it’s fixed now

[gusty wagon]

Explorer is crashing in the background, do a sfc and dism

[glass crest]

That temporarily fixes the issue, it happened last time and microcenter ended up finding out I needed my gpu/psu replaced 😔

I made sure to update my chipset drivers and all that so I can only hope it’s something like that including the explorer being weird - is there any more commands or advice u guys have?

[gusty wagon]

A fresh install usually fixed that for me

However, i haven't had that in years

[glass crest]

Im not that good yet 😭

[tawny lava]

Which dual monitor layout is better

[glass crest]

I barley started manually updating my drivers

After having pc for years

[gusty wagon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/931960199911206945/1426086285789102151/AC724F5A-190A-4C5B-AC57-50AF969FEB74.jpg?ex=6920a819&is=691f5699&hm=def053ff7836258d94caaa56e89f664e3517fca1ca7e90bf0d498b987fd5d784&

[eager pond]

Well guys, it’s official. My first PC build has been sold. Now I’m on to SMALLER and better things. Would anyone like to help me pick some parts out for my upcoming sff pc? I’ve always liked well known components. I want AM5 and thats about it for requirements! Rip the r5 7600/6800XT build

[gusty wagon]

https://youtu.be/p-xYtqWg9V8

5090, 9800X3D, 64GB-96GB DDR5, up to 4x8TB NVME SSDs

[eager pond]

That looks expensive and hard to build ngl 😭
I wouldn’t mind a slightly on-the-larger-side itx. Also I lied I don’t wanna spend over like 1200

[gusty wagon]

Also smaller than your shoebox

[plain cypress]

1. Gaming setup
2. Work setup

[gusty wagon]

Try https://caseend.com

[gusty wagon]

No stop

Vertically stacked monitors is the supreme lord

[eager pond]

What a gem thank you for the put on bro

[gusty wagon]

[glass crest]

^^

Can game on 2 monitors vertically stacked

[gusty wagon]

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

[glass crest]

I’m scared to run steam now

[gusty wagon]

SFF pcs are hell for cable routing and airflow

I'm warning you now, as i've done that before

[eager pond]

Actually? I want medium power, not huge, looks good. Should I go a different route?

[gusty wagon]

Maybe you want to look up MATX builds?

This is my current setup

[eager pond]

Idkk I’m pretty sure I want a small pc and I feel like MATX have no after market support and are hard to sell

[gusty wagon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/931960199911206945/1441280840750334036/E8BAC3A9-7267-4884-9A2C-F19C03EAEB22.jpg?ex=692138e2&is=691fe762&hm=4db2c33d263f6110baf4c9f7a7c468ca82b943f88a764f8381cc0c00cf500424&

Wdym aftermarket support

All the best-value motherboards are MATX

[eager pond]

Like used by a lot of people so very easy to find solutions and trouble shoot

[south arrow]

Lil Groudon ❤️

[gusty wagon]

Discounting commercial sales and workstations, I daresay matx is the most popular size ever since SLI and crossfire is dead

[eager pond]

Here was my setup. idc what people say, this cooler master OLED is Amazing

[eager pond]

Oh dang ok thank you I had no idea

[gusty wagon]

that's just my opinion - you should always get a second opinion

LTT, PCPP, GamersNexus, BAPC, SFFhub

[gusty wagon]

I was there when coolermaster started selling those monitors, the price was pretty high but so was the quality

That sakura GPU though

[glossy veldt]

why the sad mousepad

[eager pond]

Sad?? 😭 I love that Saturn pro it’s so butterrrrr

[south arrow]

If its cozy ya know

[glossy veldt]

get it long mousepad

why the long mousepad

[eager pond]

I’m confused

[glossy veldt]

long face.... long mousepad...

[cold skiff]

It definitely is the master of cooling in your build

[glossy veldt]

its nigh time i create the best computer build of 2025

[vast onyx]

yo im tryna upgrade my pc if anyone know stuff abt pc here can we talk?

[cold skiff]

Sounds like you need that good old fashioned channel on the left called #1027757333117415424

[gusty wagon]

old-school*

[cold skiff]

Unless you’re upgrading like a 9 series Intel or below then we would probably tell ya to toss ya e waste

[gusty wagon]

Is am4 still relevant for gaming?

[cold skiff]

Sure

Just don’t buy it new tbh

[eager pond]

Sigh

[south arrow]

Lol

[cold skiff]

Why the long sigh

If your mouse pad doesn’t cover your entire desk you’ve either got a fkn long desk or you’re doing it wrong

[south arrow]

I got a pad for my mouse pad yeah xD

[glossy veldt]

brother what the hell 😭 I've had this gpu for less than half a year

[south arrow]

It time for the old tooth brush and q tips, I believe in youu

[plain cypress]

Almost looks like smoke/tar 💀

Or maybe pet dander with dust

[glossy veldt]

yeah its most likely cat hair

is this the biggest bottleneck of 2025

[cold skiff]

No. That’s just e waste

[glossy veldt]

the A2000 is a pretty good gpu...

[south arrow]

What size satas are those?

[glossy veldt]

no clue

[cold skiff]

On a ddr3 board? Ya running Ewaste there son

[south arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-affleck-good-will-hunting-youre-suspect-carver-gif-25067282

[glossy veldt]

leave my am3 athlon alone

he aint do nun wrong

[south arrow]

If it does what you need no qualms

[mystic geyser]

upgrade my 4080 for 5090?

[south arrow]

Deth has qualms though lol

[cold skiff]

Besides isn’t that an AI card?

[south arrow]

If you wanna, sure

[cold skiff]

That’s like putting a Ferrari in the engine of a beat up morris minor

[glossy veldt]

its an entry level workstation card i think

[glossy veldt]

more or less

[cold skiff]

It’s a little worse than a 4060 apparently, on the 12gb version.

I hope ya not gaming on a 6gb one

[pulsar root]

anyone know any good cpu comparison websites

[frigid blade]

I remember gaming on the 1060 3GB

[cold skiff]

Google GN CPU benchmarks

[south arrow]

Best to look up real world examples of specific games or apps as well

[cold skiff]

You mean the 1040

[glossy veldt]

ahem

i am on the 6gb one

[cold skiff]

Sell the GPU it’s worth a few hundred. Toss the rest.

[glossy veldt]

i took it out of my main computer im not selling ts

[cold skiff]

Come more than a decade into the future

[balmy tapir]

gaming on 6gb still works today!

[glossy veldt]

it runs the resident evil chainsaw demo without issues at high settings 60 fps

and you know what I'm fine with 60 fps gaming

[vale lotus]

Software says my ssd is fine but in other pc fails to boot 🥀

[balmy tapir]

wym by software

[vale lotus]

The pc it's in rn isn't the one it booted with

[balmy tapir]

can you mount the drive on another pc?

[vale lotus]

Wdym?

[balmy tapir]

like access the drive, complete a data transfer

[vale lotus]

I can access it fine

If i put it in another pc and it isn't the boot drive

[balmy tapir]

well the boot partition could be messed up, port on the other pc could be messed up or you could just not be setting it as a boot drive in bios?!

like any sort of error?

does the other pc boot at all?

[vale lotus]

The other pc yes because it isn't selected as the boot drive

[balmy tapir]

well why not go select it as the boot drive?

button mash f2, f11, f12, del or whatever bios or boot key and the select the drive to boot from it?

[vale lotus]

That's what I'm gonna do

[balmy tapir]

okay? lmao

[cold skiff]

Man. I just dropped a hand made cigarette in a glass of Pepsi. Feels bad. Also this sentence was way too long because I got a feeling if I British speaked that I’d get warshipped

[calm idol]

just use cig instead if that word. same length, same meaning

[cold skiff]

True. Didn’t think of that

[vale lotus]

I don't get it I literally tested my ssd in windows storage test and it says it's fine

[glass crest]

new or my steam being weird???

[vale lotus]

But when I went to select the drive it showed this after I clicked ok on some red box

[woeful narwhal]

am i missing something?

[glass crest]

new steam layout?

[glass crest]

its like that for u too?

[woeful narwhal]

which page did you open

[vale lotus]

Kinda obvious ✌️

[woeful narwhal]

oh wait

[glass crest]

i went to my profile and then games and its all blue

[cold skiff]

I’ve only ever got this on mobile. More than 1 pc logged into steam?

[glass crest]

nope

[woeful narwhal]

thats typically the mobile layout yeah

[glass crest]

i sent pc to microcenter a few days ago for repair

[woeful narwhal]

especially the remote download message too

[glass crest]

but i logged out of everything

[lament flint]

does OS follow you on mail now? instead of being pc to pc? im not sure if i have an OS for my new pc yet, but i would love to save money if i already got the key for my laptop i could use

[woeful narwhal]

you can just transfer the key typically, laptops are a little more complicated though

[lament flint]

darn

[woeful narwhal]

laptops have specific OEM keys rather than the typical home license for example

[clear canyon]

you need to clean your room more often

[lament flint]

just out of curiousity, and im not gonna go fully "please recommend me".. but these keys that go for stuff like the Xlite OS, are these pirated? and why would people rather go for them? is it because they come with less active processes? isnt that something you could do in retail by just turning them off?

honest question really, ive never really went for anything else but retail. but i also been stuck with laptops these past 12 years too with fully included OS, so things might have changed since last time i had to actually buy an OS

[cold skiff]

They’re bought from third world countries on the cheap and/or OEM SI keys being sold on the side

Mostly the latter

I got my windows 7 key from a ‘shady’ site years ago. It’s upgrades me for free all the way to windows 11 so far across 4 different PCs

[lament flint]

whats the difference of an OEM SI key, and an OEM GPU? i only know the GPU part, where the OEM is basically just extra parts mashed together to form the normal variant. ie. my 1060 was an oem, where it wouldnt let me clock it or even get into clocking due to those settings not being there

[clear canyon]

you know you can get them easily for free XD

[cold skiff]

Which also makes the point of paying for windows that people hate less valid. I haven’t paid for windows in such a long time

[glad gulch]

New laptop arrived
Although the BIOS seems to be freaking out

[cold skiff]

And it cost me £12. Value for money

[lament flint]

holy crap lol

[glad gulch]

You can also hop on eBay and just rob keys from there

Some sellers don't hide the Windows activation stickers on their older machines

[lament flint]

but like... is the Xlite a legit version? like is it pirated or a part of the official ones?

i mean, the major ones being talked about i guess

[glad gulch]

Although, Windows 7 Professional is the only version that still activates with OEM keys on the internet without throwing an error

Home Basic / Home Premium / Enterprise / Ultimate don't activate with OE keys from laptops, they seem to require a phone call or... other methods.

[cold skiff]

It’s 2025. I bought windows 7 in 2010 for £12. So 80p a year for windows. People still complain but tbh for an OS that’s a pretty good deal.

[lament flint]

thats way better than the price my retail shop tried to give me, of 1800Nok (180usd) for a year

[glad gulch]

What in the shit is "Xlite"

[strange atlas]

Is it possible to clean mousepad without making it wet i'm sick of waiting for 2 days everytime i clean it

[glad gulch]

Dry cleaning and surface-cleaning.

[cold skiff]

Use a tumble dryer

I’d say don’t get it dirty af tbh

[lament flint]

my friend mentioned to me, and when looking it up i found alot of other variants of windows. but apparantly the windows x lite is another version of the win 11. though from the comments it seems sus

[glad gulch]

@lament flint Okay so Xlite is literally just Windows 11 but "gutted"- bad move honestly, Windows 11 itself is already shit, gutting it is gonna make it so much worse

[cold skiff]

However if your kid is like mine, they’re dirty af

[strange atlas]

i can try that but would it hurt fabric? the texture is important for me

[cold skiff]

Why’s it shit? Does Linux do everything you need?

[snow inlet]

how is 2 tb p41 sk hynix ssd for 147?

[lament flint]

totally agree on win 11. any recommendation for the best gaming OS for my new build by any chance?

[glad gulch]

That's not even me shitting on Windows 11, that's Windows 11 being made with hideous programming

[cold skiff]

Nah I’ve done it loads

[glad gulch]

I use Windows 10 haha, 11 is just unfinished

[strange atlas]

it doesnt get dirty to be honest its about getting the fabric to the point i like to use

[cold skiff]

So basically. Windows is shit but nothing is better, right?

[strange atlas]

probably the dead skin makes the difference

[glad gulch]

Honestly, just run stock Windows and then trim a bit off

[glad gulch]

Disabling telemetry and such

[glad gulch]

Not quite, more like "If Microsoft actually put more time into their OS it wouldn't be so... unbaked."

[cold skiff]

Windows 11 is fine for any normal consumer

[lament flint]

im not sure if i get a stock with my new computer tbh. or i guess.. its gonna come without an activation key maybe, but idk if they usually come with windows nowadays or if you need to boot up a pin to install it firstt

[snow inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/arch-linux-arch-linux-gif-25380879

[glad gulch]

Cue the one random Windows process taking 80% of my RAM and CPU because it felt like it

[lament flint]

first*

[cold skiff]

I do understand those with commercial interests that windows 11 has some drawbacks backs and instabilities

[strange atlas]

do i put it on the paper i clean it with or on the mousepad does it make any difference

[glad gulch]

I dunno, I clean hotel rooms not mousepads

[cold skiff]

Literally I throw my huge arse mouse pad in the washing machine. Then straight in the tumble dryer. No damage. No wear. No mouse issues. I’ve done this every month for over 2 years now.

[glad gulch]

I would say put it on the material you're cleaning it with

[glad gulch]

This reminds me, I need to get a mousepad

[glad gulch]

Windows 11 is great for casuals, but I wish it just wasn't being forced so soon

[strange atlas]

i put it into the shower and do a heavy cleaning with i belive its called dry humping? as much as possible then putting it to the balcony and 2 days later use it again

[lament flint]

i mean, i get the processes and cheaper part. those two especially with a price of 180usd worth per year to uphold an OS kinda makes the whole thing a bit easier choice... though, i like to play by the rules.. and even though i hate to admit that the uptake on the ram and cpu is kinda high in the official, it still is the official way to go :/

[cold skiff]

My work VM uses windows 10 still on a windows 11 OS. So I get the.. windows 11 being shitty for certain aspects tbh

[lament flint]

and i kinda dont wanna have an easier time getting hacked or smth either, my build cost me all i had atm anyways

[cold skiff]

Will have no issues. Get a fan on it. Cause 2 days in the air, unless you’re at 30c+ no one got time for that

[glad gulch]

Same here- I think our IT just couldn't stop our PCs from auto-upgrading so now they forcibly run Windows 11

[cold skiff]

Problem is dell

[glad gulch]

The Dell hell

[cold skiff]

Dell don’t sell old OS to corporate

[strange atlas]

no fan i blackout when i use those so i didnt buy one for myself

[glad gulch]

Ours are older models, they came factory with Windows 10 or even 8.1 I believe

[cold skiff]

And they’re pretty much the easiest and cheapest to rent laptops off in the uk for business

I’m due a new laptop soon. I still got an 8700u or something

[glad gulch]

I just bought a "new to me" laptop with an 8750H haha

Hell currently I'm using a MacBook Air from 2015

[cold skiff]

I dunno laptop naming scheme are fubar

It’s an 87something

[glad gulch]

It's got that weirdo i7 5th gen

5650U, I think?

[cold skiff]

I disabled the ecores anyway on mine to extend battery

[glad gulch]

Wait what

[cold skiff]

Don’t really need the ecores either as 99% of what I do is in VM

[glad gulch]

Ah

[cold skiff]

Even outside of that ecores just use more power

[glad gulch]

The whole P and E core idea is great- if you have an OS that can actually do shit with that

[cold skiff]

Think it was sim that told me to try it and it gave like 20mins extra

[glad gulch]

8th gen is way before P and E core, that came about in 12th gen mobile

[cold skiff]

All I know is I disabled cores

[lament flint]

my build isnt coming until 4th of december, but im really hoping the ram of an official windows wont do me bad. ive never really "trimmed" off anything before, so i really got no clue what i really need or not..
but if it makes any difference.. this will be my build:

ASUS TUF gaming b650 plus wifi
ASRock 9070 XT steel legends
Ryzen 5 7600
Fractal ion gold 750w
kingston fury beast 64gb 4800mhz cl 38 (i know.. but these, my PSU and CPU were free)
Corsair air 5400 LX-R
Thermalvision 360mm aio
SN7100 WD black 2tb

im honestly just hoping that i dont end up like with my laptop.. where ram and cpu background goes crazy, like 60% crazy for a lenovo legion 5 gaming laptop with 3060 laptop gpu and ryzen 5 5600h

[glad gulch]

64GB- holy shit, you're set for life

[lament flint]

even with the 4800mhz and cl38? i mean, the latency i cant change.. but the xmp should be easily boosted to 6k

[cold skiff]

Maybe I’m thinking of old laptop. I dunno. All I know is sim had same laptop and told me to go bios and do it

[glad gulch]

No idea on that, I literally use DDR4-2666 MHz and it's fine

I think you're just overthinking it, as long as you don't run a bajillion background processes and make sure to strangle Windows, you'll be fine

[wheat torrent]

this looks hilarious

[glad gulch]

FLASHBANG

[midnight wind]

yeah, and don't install the OEM drivers from the cd or whatever with your motherboard

[wheat torrent]

harvesting the sun

[midnight wind]

those seem to tend to have lots of junk]

[glad gulch]

For laptops, though, you kind of want to haha

[cold skiff]

What. People still get CDs with their mobo?

[midnight wind]

a little overexposed may i say

[glad gulch]

OEMs love putting weird drivers that are absolutely necessary for stuff like the ACPI or EC

COUGH LENOVO

[lament flint]

the thing is, ill be deep into paying debt over the next 3-5 years. so i wont be able to build until after im done.
my next goal before my last payment in march is done will be to fund a 9800X3D and a 1000-1200W PSU for a less warm PSU.
ill also be hoping to save up for an ergonomical chair or a magnus xl pro desk if i can, although the table would be best for me as i feel like i wont be stuck sitting all the time.

after this however, i wont be able to upgrade anything for the next 3-5 years

[cold skiff]

Rumour has it he really likes sun dried tomatoes but could just not wait

[glad gulch]

But is upgrading really, really worth it?

[wheat torrent]

probably underexposed

[glad gulch]

7th gen Ryzen is relatively modern (isn't it? Please tell me, I haven't kept up with the tech news)

[cold skiff]

Tbh a 7800x3d is a decent upgrade

[lament flint]

so obviously a healthy computer for that time is something that matters to me. something i can do for the next 5 years without having to spend more than maybe 10-20usd a month (a game ie, or a sub)

[cold skiff]

Outside of that he shouldn’t really bother

[glad gulch]

And probably easier / cheaper to find

[cold skiff]

A 9800x3d just isn’t currently that big a benefit for the money over the 7800x3d. As long as ya have the cache, ya grand.

[glad gulch]

I've never understood why people upgrade the second new hardware drops

[lament flint]

would the 7800X3D or 9800X3D even be a huge profit in terms of gaming experience from a 7600?

[glad gulch]

Just yesterday I got my "new to me laptop" - and it's from 2019

[cold skiff]

You weren’t around before 2013? That was literally, performance changing massively in 12-18months

[glad gulch]

Well yeah, that made sense

[cold skiff]

Especially end of 90s/early 00s. Fuck that was rough

[glad gulch]

That was "leaps and bounds" upgrading

[cold skiff]

By the time I saved up for a new gpu BANG it was bottom of the stack again

[glad gulch]

Nowadays it's "we polished the architecture!" +0.3 GHz

[lament flint]

windows ^95 and 98 gang, holy crap that was some system lol

[cold skiff]

I actually hated xp at first

[glad gulch]

Yeah, an RTX 2070 Max-Q sounds like ass to any modern 2025 "gamer"- but I was using a Quadro 2000M from 2011 so

[cold skiff]

It was too colourful and 98 was so good for the games.

[glad gulch]

Vista, my unbeloved

[lament flint]

worst os ever, vista

[cold skiff]

I had ME and Vista 😭

ME came free with a motherboard I got 😭

[glad gulch]

Even with the SP2 and unofficial SP3 it still runs like ass

[glad gulch]

It could also be the fact I'm using a ThinkPad X300 for it so the C2D might be strangling Vista

[cold skiff]

Tbh I actually enjoyed vista. At the time I didn’t see the problems

ME was a shit show

[lament flint]

you didnt just say that 😮

[cold skiff]

I was a kid just playing games and designing HL levels

Worked perfectly fine

[glad gulch]

I mean yeah it was fine

[lament flint]

if i knew back then i could keep to my windows exp and wait for win 7 from there :/

[glad gulch]

But the major issue seemed to stem from what Windows 11 did right now

Forcing a major hardware jump

[cold skiff]

Tbh I probably just got lucky my hardware combo didn’t duck stuff up also

[glad gulch]

Cause it went from mininum 512MB of RAM or so to a literal 2GB, for example

[cold skiff]

The best of 32 bit

[glad gulch]

The fact some Androids are still made as 32-bit pisses me off

[cold skiff]

Good thing 128 bit is never happening

Humans be long gone before we need that

[glad gulch]

It kind of is, but onky for data buses

128-bit, 192-bit, 256-bit, 384-bit, etc.

[glad gulch]

I got a question for ya, if you don't mind helping and answering

[cold skiff]

As far as applications go though. It’s not going to happen. We will 100% kill our species way before

[glad gulch]

RTX 2070 Max-Q- the most demanding game I'll run is probably Cyberpunk and I'm gonna cap that to 60 FPS anyways- bad idea or okay?

[cold skiff]

Why would it be a bad idea

[glad gulch]

I dunno, I just asked on Reddit and people told me I was "r-word" for considering mobile RTX 20 series in 2025 (while ignoring my pointed comment that before this, I was using a mobile workstation GPU from 2011 so anything would be an upgrade)

[cold skiff]

Isn’t that like around 10% worse than a 3060? You’ll be fine

[glad gulch]

Then again, that's Reddit

[cold skiff]

People play cyberpunk with lossless scaling on a fkn 1060 and others 1080

[glass crest]

why did my uncle tell me to not go on reddit for tech advice

whats in reddit

[glad gulch]

Well for one, PCMR went from being "let's dunk on console players together" to an ego contest

PC Master Race, used to be about PC gamers v. Console gamers

[glass crest]

ah

i need to learn how to run ddu and do windows 11 from a usb, and update bios

[cold skiff]

Most Redditors run hyper awesome or hyper shit builds

[glass crest]

once i get the hang of that, bye bye microcenter repair

[cold skiff]

That’s why I like places like this.

[glad gulch]

My first "PC" was literally in a cardboard box

[cold skiff]

We appreciate those that afford all, and those that are happy with lower performance to save a dime if they don’t need it

[glad gulch]

I dunno where the picture went, I have it saved somewhere

It was scavenged from e-waste and I think it had a Athlon II x4 630 and a GeForce 9500 GT

[cold skiff]

Hell snail has like 5 5090s, I don’t judge. I think he’s insane, but he also gets the lower end of the spectrum. That’s where Redditors at the high end tend to fail compared to guys like him

Those that have super builds are not assholes in here like they are on Reddit

But if ya gonna try 4k path tracing on a 2080 they’ll tell you like anyone, ya dumb.

That’s the problem with Reddit, they think you should have their settings on a 5090..

When you’ve got a 2080

[glad gulch]

Or they ask why you can't afford a 5090 or won't buy one

[cold skiff]

lol yep

I remember being able to afford a 4090 when I built. But fuck I wasn’t paying that

[glad gulch]

I honestly just got lucky with my paycheck being fat enough that I could get my Razer AND buy food until next week

[cold skiff]

I really considered a 7900xtx for £900. Genuinely glad I never tbh. Would still be upgrading the same time as when my 7800xt goes in all honesty.

[ocean axle]

afaik, PCMR was always mocking PC gamers with a giant ego about it

[glad gulch]

Nowadays I just find it hilarious when someone starts complaining about hardware

[ocean axle]

if it works, and plays what you want, thats all that really matters

personally, im most likely to pay for something in a game when i feel like i dont have to, and its not absurdly priced

the more the game pushes me to pay for something, the less i want to play the game

[cold skiff]

That’s why F2P with mtx is so good for developers

[ocean axle]

no, all too often those games really push you into paying again and again and again

im fine with paying for a game, but when those games also push you into mtx, or games that try and shove them down your throat (even if free), i dont like

[ebon marlin]

absolutely amazing black friday deals

[eternal cloak]

Idk what kinda crack you smoke if you think mtx are good for developers

It's good for the publishers, not the developers

It's still commonplace for publishers to introduce toxic payment practices (p2w, predatory mtx practices etc etc) to the average user at the cost of many many development studios

[pale flint]

21 cents discount 💔💔

[pure beacon]

To be fair a deal is a deal

[glacial kraken]

hate technology
its so annoying when it doesnt work
which is most the time

[pale flint]

?

bro 21 cents ainta fucking discount 😭🙏

[pure beacon]

lol i know it was a joke

[pale flint]

like ok if it was on a pack of chips i'd accept it but on a fucking case

[pale flint]

it works for me

[glacial kraken]

mine never works

[pale flint]

most of the time

[glacial kraken]

mostly because it is all shit and needs replacement

[pale flint]

hmm

dont buy cheap stuff

[glacial kraken]

I dont

it just gets old

[pale flint]

i mean not like expensive stuff works but too cheap is bad

[pale flint]

well thats how things are designed to be

[glacial kraken]

my phone broke so i have a shit phone which doesnt work, and our xbox i left somewhere so I have to use a 13 year old one

[pale flint]

things are designed to stop functioning after certain period of tine

[glacial kraken]

and other than that i only use my macbook which is actually good thank god

[pale flint]

else how would companies earn billions

[glacial kraken]

I need a new phone for christmas hopefully

[pale flint]

how old was the phone

[pure beacon]

truth

[glacial kraken]

the one that broke or the one i have now which is shit?

[pale flint]

both

[glacial kraken]

the old one was released 2021

and this one 2023

galazy z flip3 and a 14 respectivly

[pale flint]

yk there were glasses that was really tough to break but no dealers bought them cuz that killed their business so the company shut down

[pale flint]

bruh

iphones last longer tbh

i feel like android campanies just fill your thigs with junk with updates so you buy new one

[glacial kraken]

no my z flip screen died

and the a14 is absolute garbage

genuinely ewaste

[ebon marlin]

Depends what you get

If you get a budget phone you get those type of shits

I have a flagship budget phone and mine came with 0 bloat and no issues

Oneplus 13R

[ebon marlin]

Well yeah it's an A series phone lmao

[glacial kraken]

That's why the home screen lags

[dusky flare]

ngl amazon luna is actually really good now if you have prime

games launch instantly and input lag is v minimal

[ebon marlin]

I don't understand people who buy brand new A series phone when buying older used flagships is an option

[glacial kraken]

becaus it was 30$ or sometihng

[scarlet tartan]

Get a Samsung FE device

Those are better

[eternal cloak]

Because brand new sounds better than used, it's more of a "Oh this new shiny thing is mine now" kinda deal

[glacial kraken]

isnt FE worse

[scarlet tartan]

A series users don't have that privilege

They're only worse than S series devices

[eternal cloak]

Than an A-series phone? No
FE are S series phones, which in same generation and even a couple generations behind will always beat an A-series phone

[scarlet tartan]

They're last year's flagship hardware with today's software (and price), but they're available at discounts

[glacial kraken]

i know

i meant isnt it worse than normal s series

I think i am gonna get an s25 hopegully

[scarlet tartan]

An S25 FE is essentially an S24+ except for some things

[glacial kraken]

oh ok

[scarlet tartan]

It has a 1080p screen, 8 gigs of RAM, and a different telephoto and ultra wide lens, but pretty much the same in other aspects

[eternal cloak]

Generally yes

[scarlet tartan]

Steam Deck enjoyer? @eternal cloak

[eternal cloak]

I use it as my HTPC ye

[scarlet tartan]

Nice, how does it hold up?

[glacial kraken]

s25 is very good tho right?

[scarlet tartan]

The USB C has display out so it must be plug and play for the most part

[pale flint]

yeah

[scarlet tartan]

Yes

The OnePlus 13R doesn't have a zoom lens but offers better sustained performance, and worse software

[pale flint]

mostly people who dont want fo fuck with this stuff

[glacial kraken]

I wanna record 0.5x videos which my phone rn doesnt do

[eternal cloak]

Very nicely ye
I retired my 11 year old HTPC before that, scraped the living hell out of it

[pale flint]

most of them will end up getting scammed

[eternal cloak]

I just took the 20 o 25% performance loss and installed Windows 11 on it, still holds up well

[glacial kraken]

the s25 isnt on sale anywhere

these black friday deals are cheeks

[pale flint]

record normal one and make it slow 🙏

[scarlet tartan]

I see

[glacial kraken]

nah like zoom

[pale flint]

oh

you mean ultra wide

my a13 has it btw

[glacial kraken]

idk why the a14 has 3 lenses when it does only 1x and 2x video

[scarlet tartan]

S25 has better cameras (slightly), and it's battery life is worse. But it's a compact device.

[pale flint]

🍽

[scarlet tartan]

Because one of the lenses must be an e-waste lens (2 or 5mp macro)

[glacial kraken]

bruh

[pale flint]

lol

[glacial kraken]

lol

[pale flint]

i use s23fe tho

its my previous phone

[scarlet tartan]

I've used an S21 FE snapdragon before my S24+

[pale flint]

still works fine for sligyht stuff

[eternal cloak]

It is, ye
Although if you use it as an HTPC you're almost guaranteed to cover that usb c slot for the HDMI/DP ports on the dock

[scarlet tartan]

Nice bezels, great cameras

[glacial kraken]

how much better is s25 from s24

[scarlet tartan]

Mostly the chipset, nothing else

And one year of software

[pale flint]

i'd say features

[eternal cloak]

Even if it was significantly better, phones are at the point where you wouldn't even be able to tell

[pale flint]

chipset doesnt make a difference to your eye

[scarlet tartan]

They have the same AI features

[pale flint]

its gonna be nearly the same performance

[pale flint]

🍽

[scarlet tartan]

The FE looks like a deal to me. But man are devices expensive where you live.

[glacial kraken]

aud

[scarlet tartan]

I have an S24+, my mum has an S25+. Same device.

Except for the chipset

[glacial kraken]

for black friday a few years a go a z flip was 500 dollars

which is like 75% discount

[scarlet tartan]

Are these Canadian dollars?

[glacial kraken]

aud

[scarlet tartan]

My bad

[glacial kraken]

australian dollar

[scarlet tartan]

FE is cheaper