tech-chat-1

[frigid blade]

Actually google says its treated as a "purchase" but some places still treat it like a cash advance

[sage ocean]

oh wait

prepaid wouldnt work anyway because this website requires 3DS

[frigid blade]

oof, i remember running into that with prepaids when trying to purchase steam keys lol

[frail delta]

I doing think it’s actually a prepaid card. It just acts like one

[sage ocean]

amex 3ds is really nice because it doesnt text me or anything

it sends a notif to the amex app and I just press yes

i had to do 3ds before when my debit card was still a mc

[frigid blade]

looks like revolut has 3ds for online payments

[frail delta]

Visa and MC have that too, it’s just on the bank to implement it

[sage ocean]

ive been offered an airtag thing before where i tap the card to my phone but every time i tried following the QR code my browser just showed a blank site with nothing on it

i tried changing to a different browser, and it said to allow NFC perms, but there was no option to do that

[spiral narwhal]

Anyone seen anything like this? It's a friend's old PC and I've never seen this manufacturer, I'm assuming it's a no name thing by a long gone company

[sage ocean]

looks like the type of pc i had back in ye olden days

[sleek ibex]

AT case let's goooooo

[formal sonnet]

Likely an independent PC builder similar to Vancouver's Seanix Technologies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhVgNk1geBU

[sleek ibex]

Also that case looks like every generic AT build from the mid-late 90s so hard to tell from just that pic

[rigid fjord]

i see a radio that also plays records there

[spiral narwhal]

Yeah that's true LMAO

She said she'd send me an interior photo tomorrow

It's interesting how many of these system builders managed to just disappear into the night

[rigid fjord]

should find a 'tiny' pc case and do a build in that for nostalgia sake dude

[sleek ibex]

Though if I had to give an approximate guess, probably an early Pentium, AMD K5, or later 486 system

Or within that ballpark

So 1995-1996

[slow sable]

Max ❤️

[formal sonnet]

God damn I miss how quickly Windows 3.1 systems used to boot back in the day.

[sleek ibex]

If I were to guess the year

[rigid fjord]

i kinda miss my old amd k6 build

i do have a box up in my parents loft some pc parts i could probably do a retro build for the likes of win98 se or winxp

think my mum's old pc i built her is up in the loft also

[zealous plover]

Why did valve have to release the best lineup just after I brought a mid to high range gaming pc and an oculus quest

[scarlet tartan]

My first PC was a Pentium 4 2.8Ghz based machine

Quite the time

[zealous plover]

Do I hear white steam deck?

[scarlet tartan]

Limited Edition

[sleek ibex]

I would love to see if I can get a baby AT case with turbo display someday

[zealous plover]

I might get a steam controller all the other ones I don't need

[hexed sage]

No

Black is superior

[zealous plover]

um

okay

[hexed sage]

What happens when your white steam deck gets a little dirty

[cosmic idol]

Pretty

[cosmic idol]

clean it
Or don’t be a grub

[hexed sage]

Sometimes you cant clean it, like when the joysticks get dirty from your sweat which will happen

If my hands touch it i dont want it to be white basically

I have an all white pc but i also cant get it dirty and its easy to clean

[frank cape]

yk how easy it is to clip this out of context

[hexed sage]

Bru

[frank cape]

maybe talk with more caution?

[hexed sage]

Its a tech channel 💀

The only person taking it out of context is you

[frank cape]

ok lol

[distant frigate]

Lmao.

[frosty oriole]

It means GTX 1060 performance.

[peak swan]

Fuck my life
I lost my EarPods
Yes, i had genuine apple ones
Usb-c too
Tgey weren't the best but sure as fuck they were pretty good
I guess I'll save up for iems, but until then I'll have to solder some fuckery up at home

[distant frigate]

My internet is actually back up though despite it saying this

[gaunt mortar]

Hai

[formal sonnet]

Most consumer / residential ISPs don't do real-time outage reporting... And most outage alerts require a minimum number of subscribers to be affected before they will post anything. Something about damange control and PR.

[wispy thunder]

I love when coks has an outage

[topaz shale]

me when i lie

[wispy thunder]

also 28cu RDNA 4 is more 4060 performance

also considering that thing has a 110w power budget

[topaz shale]

also drawing 25% less power

[frosty oriole]

25% less power is usually around 10% performance difference in a lot of GPUs.

So, it'll be between a 1060 and a 1070.

[thin bloom]

Do you guys think modern gpus should have this feature that this rx 470 has? I have hot swapped the fans while running a game and it didn't overheat. It increased maybe by 2 degrees because the one case fan blowing at during that time before i got more fans. If you're wondering what game it was. it was beamng drive at default graphic settings

[frosty oriole]

BeamNG mentioned.

[thin bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/beamng-beamng-jumpscare-beamng-crash-beamng-rollover-crash-jumpscare-gif-23619567

[topaz shale]

can you link me the benchmarks you are using?

[frosty oriole]

https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-GTX-1080-vs-Radeon-RX-7600M-XT

[summer token]

Jesus these cpu cooler fans are subborn to remove

[frosty oriole]

I had the XT selected there, but that's faster because it has more CUs.

[summer token]

Why put t15 on a cpu cooler and not something else

Curse you HP

[cosmic stratus]

Lol?

[topaz shale]

nah thats just copium

portal and team fortress will never be worked on again

hl3... or rather a half life project has been in development for quite some time

[wispy thunder]

definitely plim

also it seems technical city's point score is heavily biased to high power draw

[topaz shale]

it seems to place around a modern entry level gpu

[frosty oriole]

Ah, okay, so maybe slightly faster than a 2060.

[topaz shale]

it seems like it technically falls behind the ps5 with its gpu

[south arrow]

[wispy thunder]

yeah that looks closer to what I'd expect

definitely not a 1060

[lime grail]

wym

[frosty oriole]

That's significantly better. It'd probably be closer to the 2070, so that turns it from a DOA cube to a kind of fun little box.

[wispy thunder]

yeah.

[topaz shale]

i just want them to give us steam os, man

im sure a lot of people would be willing to pay a fee for it too

[wispy thunder]

considering 4050 mobile beats out the 2070 desktop in float-point compute by a 1.5tflops while drawing 125w less

[topaz shale]

2070 is old news

it was fast but things got significantly better 20 -> 30, and 30-> 40 series

[wispy thunder]

remember when everyone was shitting on 40 series because it wasn't enough perf uplift from 30 series except for the 4090?

[sinful cobalt]

imho 40 series was very good

[wispy thunder]

20 to 30 was huge though.

like 3060ti beating te 2080 super was comedy gold

[topaz shale]

it happens every time

i think people are rightfully hating on 50 series tho

[cosmic stratus]

Its 15% slower apparently

[sinful cobalt]

what

[cosmic stratus]

Desktop counter part is 5% ahead of the ps5 gpu

[topaz shale]

2070 or 2070s?

[cosmic stratus]

7600

[topaz shale]

oh

[cosmic stratus]

So was 40 series

4070 matching a 3090

You forgot this. The only joke was the 4060 and still is with the 5060

[topaz shale]

4070 is quite a formidable card

4060 only sucked because 8gb vram

if they made 4060 12gb then everyone would love it

[wispy thunder]

4070 also has 12gb vram and was stupidly priced

[cosmic stratus]

50 series?? Its like we just got a bunch of TI cards with with new gen number slapped on

[wispy thunder]

also no the 4070 loses to 3090, 4070 super got it there

[sinful cobalt]

4070 matches 3080 at way lower power and gives the proper 12gb vram over the first 10gb 3080 variant.

[topaz shale]

blackwell highkey dissapointing

[wispy thunder]

but still lacking vram

[topaz shale]

ada lovelace was a revolutionary generation

[sinful cobalt]

4070 Super/4070Ti is the one that can match a 3090 raster wise

[cosmic stratus]

And ai features ofc.. which wouldn't be a problem if it wasnt being used as an excuse to not really deliver a decent generational uplift

[wispy thunder]

the revolution was how efficient ada was.

[topaz shale]

yeah dont forget you got better performance with slashed wattage

[wispy thunder]

cause the 3090 bfgpu brought psus to their knees, people were worried about 40 series

but then ada dropped with better performance at lower wattages, and even better performance at the same wattages

[cosmic stratus]

So was 30 series with the mining boom sadly

[wispy thunder]

but then they also let the plims loose and you got insane perf

[topaz shale]

20% generation / generation is quite good especially for 10% less power

[wispy thunder]

3070 was a 60 series card lmao

the 3060ti/3070 situation was so sad

[sinful cobalt]

vram wasnt a problem for the 30 series era

[topaz shale]

like thats insane.

[sinful cobalt]

it became more and more apparent with 40 series with UE5 demands

[wispy thunder]

imagine cutting down your chip for a lower class product, only for that cut to allow it to boost higher and perform the same.

[wispy thunder]

the wattage is more insane.

[topaz shale]

exactly

beating a 3080ti with 150 less watts is diabolical

[topaz shale]

ada lovelace is what made nvidia a trillion dollar company

ada lovelace made ai possible

[sinful cobalt]

also to note 30 series ran hot and undervolting was hella popular with them

[wispy thunder]

4070ti was not a 4070 lmao

[cosmic stratus]

Also 30 series was made on samsungs foundries btw

[topaz shale]

my PC vs my 16in laptop btw

[cosmic stratus]

Im pretty sure the laptop 4090 is nearly equivalent to the desktop 3090

[wispy thunder]

4070 super is what 4070 should've been, 4070ti was perfectly fine as the 4080 cut, just like the 1070ti was to the 1080 and 2070ti was to the 2080

it is

laptop 4090 is a desktop 4080 chip.

[topaz shale]

gah damn

[cosmic stratus]

[wispy thunder]

so long as thermal and power headroom was OK then yah it's just a desktop card

[topaz shale]

this is an ada lovelace glazing sesh

[sinful cobalt]

iirc they went to samsung for better pricing, went back to TSMC since samsung’s wafers were highk ass

[cosmic stratus]

Oh btw tech city isnt very accurate

[topaz shale]

i was just using them for consistency

[cosmic stratus]

Every samsung chip ive seen is hot shit..

Snapdragon 888 and 8 gen 1 were hot flops for example

[topaz shale]

since all the references by me recently have been tech city i figured i would keep with them as to not throw off readings

[wispy thunder]

TSMC pricing was crazy cause Apple had all their stock

so they kinda got forced to Samsung really

[cosmic stratus]

Samsung isnt BAD they're just mid

[sinful cobalt]

even so, the 2 cards are very tied anyway- 4070ti smokes in efficiency

you could argue VRAM here but we’re talking raster

[wispy thunder]

fym they're not bad

[sinful cobalt]

their 8nm was just a refreshed 10nm lol

[cosmic stratus]

[topaz shale]

better than intel rebranding 14nm 7 trillion times

[cosmic stratus]

[topaz shale]

intel got bad samsung was indeed mid

meanwhile tsmc on 4nm

[wispy thunder]

the bleeding-edge transistor silicon market is now a two horse race between TSMC and Samsung. Everyone else like Globalfoundries gave up

[cosmic stratus]

Tsmc good samsung mid

But hey lets see what their 2nm can do next year

[topaz shale]

intel got so bad they switched to tsmc

[wispy thunder]

to remind you, globalfoundries made first gen Ryzen.

[latent pasture]

is samsung anywhere close to tsmc lol

[wispy thunder]

it also was AMD's original fab before they spun off

[wispy thunder]

allegedly yes actually

as of late, anyways.

[cosmic stratus]

They got 2nm first I think

Idk lemme search that up rq lmao

[sinful cobalt]

samsung has shit yields ngl

[topaz shale]

tsmc allegedly has been testing 2nm

[summer token]

This is one stubborn torx screw

Why even choose torx

[sinful cobalt]

18a ftw

[regal marlin]

Should I wait to get 32gb or 64gb of ram until after the inflation and just get 16gb?

[topaz shale]

it got so expensive so fast

[regal marlin]

I know

[topaz shale]

wait what the hell

?????

[regal marlin]

No fucking way

[topaz shale]

what are they smoking bro

[regal marlin]

Oh it’s 3200mhz and c22

That’s high high end

[topaz shale]

nah this is like normal ddr4

[regal marlin]

No it isn’t

The speed is fast as fuck

[topaz shale]

oh its one of those alternate sellers that best buy uses thats why

oh yeah c22 i suppose

[cosmic stratus]

More than likely

[formal sonnet]

Weird. It's almost like BestBuy isn't the seller...

[topaz shale]

weird its like i said that

[random gyro]

sup

[empty quartz]

Just upgraded my grandma’s laptop to an ssd 🥶

[south arrow]

Let's gooo grandmasss never known such speeds

[empty quartz]

It may be old, but at least itll work for awhile more

[topaz shale]

my grandma has an acer nitro 5

[empty quartz]

It used to take a good 10 minutes before windows was usable

[south arrow]

Notes badger grandmas a baller

[topaz shale]

shes awesome she just checks her email and uses her printer with it

its like its brand new

[south arrow]

Decent laptops my brothers has lasted him a good few years

[topaz shale]

acer nitro 5s are destined to be abused but my grandma takes amazing care of it. i am quite happy

[empty quartz]

Ngl, its still funny how on windows you’re pretty much forced to get hevc extension to view most things from a modern smartphone

[south arrow]

Frigging windowsss

[empty quartz]

Without apps like vlc and whatnot*

and then macos just has hevc built in

[random gyro]

https://youtu.be/eiyz-yuBWvQ rip the penny

[empty quartz]

Penny’s are pointless

They literally cost more to make than they were worth

[topaz shale]

chat do i go for the motherboard

[jaunty apex]

How many chips are in a family sized bag

[topaz shale]

wait what is the price of this board

oh its a 400 dollar board

[empty quartz]

Wtf are you using

[plush narwhal]

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/hardware?l=english dis huge

[scarlet tartan]

IDK, 2 and a half?

[topaz shale]

some corporate rewards thing

if you learn about intel you get chips to spend in their shop

and you can either gamble or buy these things

[scarlet tartan]

Definitely doesn't cost as much as an Ultra 5 and a midrange motherboard

[scarlet tartan]

Gentleman I would like to apply for your corporate company

/s

[topaz shale]

there is a lot of random shit

and ngl i dont think i would willingly rep intel with what i wear

[scarlet tartan]

That's definitely the highest priced one, the motherboard

[topaz shale]

not far from it

[formal sonnet]

Ah... I see their offerings have not gotten any better. I'm now slightly less miffed I lost 450,000 chips.

[topaz shale]

is it worth the time

[scarlet tartan]

What are the specs on that laptop

[topaz shale]

i mean each lesson is like 1k chips and it takes like 3 mins

[south arrow]

Thats alot of chips fams thats a whole mobo

[topaz shale]

i7 136230 and 4050

[scarlet tartan]

Are you free enough?

[topaz shale]

its that or learn language for my upcoming trip

[scarlet tartan]

That's 20* hours

[random gyro]

i have a 1920 penny

[topaz shale]

i think you are mistaken

[scarlet tartan]

20* hours is a lot of time

[topaz shale]

20 thousand hours does not seem right

[empty quartz]

Wow…

[scarlet tartan]

Wait my bad

[random gyro]

and a 1940, 1944

[empty quartz]

Wow…

[topaz shale]

oh

[scarlet tartan]

20 hours

[jaunty apex]

Me when I spend 20000 hours farming eidolons for the arcane energize

[random gyro]

i collecting coins lol, i also had 15 or so $1 ones, and 15 $2 bills

[empty quartz]

I have pennies from 1903 @random gyro

[formal sonnet]

Yep. Welp, they essentially stole them when they gave ISPs 2 months to use their chips... on items in a store that was constantly sold out of everything over 100,000 chips. Not a good look, Intel.

[topaz shale]

to be fair i would make less in 20 hours than the value of that motherboard

[random gyro]

dang dude, i want some from then haha

[south arrow]

Thats a bad taste forsures

[scarlet tartan]

I have some coins from the 1700s

[jaunty apex]

I have coins

[scarlet tartan]

This guy coins

[topaz shale]

tc2 is dead and tc1 is tweaking today

[jaunty apex]

They are shiny because they are in boxes and bags and hard plastic cases

[empty quartz]

Tc1 is always tweaking

[random gyro]

welcome worm

[rigid fjord]

it's base clock is 3.4ghz, and it's boost clock is 3.9ghz, so no manual OC should be needed really for it

[topaz shale]

sounds about right

[random gyro]

we never tweaking

[topaz shale]

fent fold or the gamer pose?

[random gyro]

coke

[topaz shale]

https://tenor.com/view/l-lawliet-death-note-anime-talking-gif-17559976

[pale flint]

wasnt supposes to be sent here

[topaz shale]

maybe i just gamble instead of cashing in my chips for a board

[south arrow]

Just making a baby bottle and my other son has a cough now and woke up hoping hes not getting more sick

[pale flint]

gambling

[rigid fjord]

ye old tiny pc's 😉

[pale flint]

yes i love gambling

tiny pc not actually tiny

[summer token]

Alr i managed to remove the cooler

But the new cpu wont enter

I dont see any bent pins on it (am4)

[cosmic stratus]

Lol easy psu upgrade for me

Its hotswap, the upgrade is done in 10 seconds. Unfortunately the benefits of being proprietary end there tho

[summer token]

Didnt know dell had monsters like that

[south arrow]

Forbidden fruit

[cosmic stratus]

Currently on 685watts and not quite good enough for this

[rigid fjord]

workstation/server builds basically

[cosmic stratus]

Mhmm

Much better than upgrading some dell optiplex if u ask me

That doesnt come with a decent psu to begin with and isnt hotswap

[rigid fjord]

nah, some optiplex's are easy upgrades

[cosmic stratus]

Which ones

[south arrow]

As long as not breaking out the pico psu boards no qualms they get alil melty

[summer token]

Btw could you help me out with my cpu

I dont see any bent pins on the am4 but it wont safely sock in

I tried my old cpu but it sinked fine

I checked the pins but they look straight

[rigid fjord]

the og ones from the 90's to early 00's used atx psu's, and a few of the newer models you can swap it with a flex-atx psu inside

[rigid fjord]

then you got 1 pin that's slightly out of place

only just enough to cause the issue

[cosmic stratus]

Oh ok thats good

[summer token]

This is like playing wheres waldo jesus

[rigid fjord]

reasons why you used a metal ruler while checking the pins

[cosmic stratus]

Im worried about ram pricing bleeding into the vram cost for gpus... im hoping in 2 months the 9070xt wont be out of my budget lmao

[rigid fjord]

one of these 6 inch ones is more than enough, they're cheap also

[summer token]

I think i know where the pins are cause when i put the cpu in the socket its like a rocking chair

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-meme-gif-24972796

[cosmic stratus]

Oh so its literally uneven

[summer token]

I dont think so

[cosmic stratus]

Should be able to guess the general location ig

[summer token]

They look straight let me get a pic

[rigid fjord]

a single slightly missmatched pin will cause it

[cosmic stratus]

Id think mounting pressure would fix this

[rigid fjord]

not in the initial install if it won't go in the socket

[tranquil thicket]

What is the max temperature my GPU should get before I should start to worry?

[rigid fjord]

90c

[cosmic stratus]

Pay attention to hot spot aswell

[topaz shale]

1,414 °C, the melting point of silicon

[tranquil thicket]

I currently have a custom fan curve set because of temps and fan noise. Do you think replacing thermal pads and thermal paste in the GPU would solve the temp problems? The GPU gets quite loud when playing certain games

[summer token]

This worked

I put a little pressure to it

[random gyro]

no

[summer token]

Then it fit in gently

[cosmic stratus]

Interesting

[cosmic stratus]

If hot spot is 100c+ then you should worry

[summer token]

It wasnt even pressure it was just a small pinky push

[tranquil thicket]

How do I check the temps of that?

[cosmic stratus]

Hwinfo

[summer token]

Now only a matter of the cpu cooler

[charred knot]

why is ram so expensive

i’m about to sell all my extra ram that i bought for its then msrp

so it’ll be cheaper

[cosmic stratus]

companies tring to farm some money from LLMs

[topaz shale]

AI

[charred knot]

but why is gamer ram getting expensive :(

[rigid fjord]

you're not even saying what temps you're currently hitting for us to make a fully informed decission about it

[charred knot]

why is my rgb ram becoming expensive lmao

you can’t even buy a 32 gb corsair vengeance kit on amazon anymore Lol

it’s so bad

[rigid fjord]

you push it in enough to essentially use the socket to straighten whichever pin was the problem doing that

[tranquil thicket]

I'm not 100% sure since I haven't checked in a while, but if I remember it was around 80-82C playing most games. That's when my fans used to kick in to cool it down

[cosmic stratus]

Even ddr4 is overpriced. Ridiculous

[charred knot]

hey to make up for it i’ll sell this 6000 mts 32 gb kit for 50 bucks on marketplace

[summer token]

I dont mind buying ram second hand but everything else i try to buy new

Now i gotta package my old cpu cause someone already placed an order for it

[south arrow]

Some machine learning doesn't need more then 32gb

[rigid fjord]

then that's not an issue, you should have the fans set reasonably to be going at 40-50c before hand then only ramp up when it needs to at around 80-90c

[south arrow]

And sometimes it does just depends

[charred knot]

i’ll only sell it to a gamer

[cosmic stratus]

For me, gpu, cpu ram sometimes storage

[summer token]

Psu definitely new

[cosmic stratus]

Yea new psus arnt that expensive anyway

[charred knot]

tell that to corsair

[south arrow]

Psu ive learned last few years can be volatile in pricing

Up and down quicks

[rigid fjord]

funny thing is, the gpu could thermally shut down without the core reaching 100c at it's hotspot in some case

[charred knot]

pc + pepper

[tranquil thicket]

I could go into a game and check the temps. Anyways here is my settings

[rigid fjord]

psu and ssd always new, the rest can be secondhand

[topaz shale]

are those the razer speakers

[cosmic stratus]

Right frgt not all gpus have the same temp limit

[charred knot]

yes

[summer token]

Shiit i got the cpu earlier then the thermal paste and my cpu cooler has only a small dot amount

[charred knot]

i don’t listen to music tho because i live in an apartment with neighbors, music on the headphones only

[summer token]

Wait we must

[charred knot]

so it’s just for youtube lol

[rigid fjord]

use hwinfo/rivatuner instead for showing temps, and either use remo's fan control for setting fan curves or if amd, use adrenalin

[cosmic stratus]

I use ptm7950 on gpu exclusively and maybe cpu if it uses enough power

[tranquil thicket]

Okay

[rigid fjord]

some will thermally shutdown because vram got to hot

[cosmic stratus]

I love how nearly identical it is to just using liquid metal lol

[summer token]

Sounds tuff, i ordered arctic mx-6 heard lots of good about it

Itll be here by tommorow

Ill just use this dot amount to test the cpu

[rigid fjord]

looks at nvidia in dissappointment

[tranquil thicket]

Does LTT have a web page dedicated to pc tool softwares or am I remembering wrong?

[charred knot]

how has amd not pulled a cities skylines and taken advantage of nvidia lowkey becoming evil to try to become a bigger company

[rigid fjord]

nope, there is a forum post though but neither of these are on there

[charred knot]

i hate this infinite money bubble thing

[cosmic stratus]

Yea I usually pull up vbios settings on techpwrup for whatever gpu im working with to see the throttling limits

[charred knot]

yo what the fuck is this LOL

who does this guy think he is

[tranquil thicket]

Idle

57C

[rigid fjord]

one of the worst ones for showing this was the 3090 where it kept cooking vram

[cosmic stratus]

My vega 56 used to instantly hit 105C with 10w/mk paste on a 150watt load (bc of the crack of space for air lol)... now it maxes at 95C

[tranquil thicket]

What temps are too high for hot-spot when playing games?

[cosmic stratus]

I just installed it too so it will probably get better lmao

[rigid fjord]

set a custom curve with remo, and not worry, i have basically 2 set for my system, one for gpu and one for cpu

[cosmic stratus]

This stuff has to "break in" if you will

[cosmic stratus]

57c along isnt really concerning but then I see its only 0.7V at idle...

[summer token]

Its fine if i use a dot amount of thermal paste to temporarily test the cpu to see if it works right

[cosmic stratus]

My 6800 sits at 1025mv at idle and hot spot temps at 52

[cosmic stratus]

You need to use a little more

[summer token]

Its not a dot but its an eh amount

Just to boot up and see if its reading

[tranquil thicket]

I'll do that but I'm still curious if new thermal pads and such will improve temps and reduce fan noise since I'm pretty sure they often go up to 100%

[rigid fjord]

i like to do 2 pea size amounts myself

[cosmic stratus]

They vert much will

[rigid fjord]

they'll help with temps, not so much fan noise

especially if it's an msi gpu

[tranquil thicket]

well my fans wouldn't have to work as much if the temps are lower generally?

[tranquil thicket]

2080 FE

[rigid fjord]

hmm, it could make them work less, but also a decently tuned fan curve can also make them work less in other ways

[tranquil thicket]

90C in FiveM with Normal settings

Not the most demanding game either

[cosmic stratus]

At what wattage

[cosmic stratus]

Yikes uh

Yea it definitely needs new 'paste'

Or some ptm7950

90c hot spot at just 157watts and its the FE card...

[tranquil thicket]

What do you recommend I should do?

[cosmic stratus]

It should be able to handle 250 and get these same temps

[cosmic stratus]

Get some good thermal paste or... the hard to install ptm7950 stuff

[tranquil thicket]

I should have some good paste laying around. What about thermal pads?

[cosmic stratus]

What are the vram temps

[tranquil thicket]

Where do I find the vram temps?

[cosmic stratus]

If you couldnt find them then we cant be sure if you need new thermal pads

Id say you more than likely dont need new ones just yet

[tranquil thicket]

I'll change the hwinfo language 2 sec

[sinful cobalt]

I too, also have MSI (Multiple Serious Issues)

[fallow yacht]

sup mate

my laptop is being repaired rn

[limpid dune]

you appear to have a glitch where your 2080 speaks swedish

[tranquil thicket]

Got arctic MX-6

[tranquil thicket]

Swedish?

[random gyro]

IT ARRIVED YAYYY

[tranquil terrace]

Norwegian* thats a norwegian ø. The sweeds use ö

[rigid fjord]

sup dude, and that's good news about the laptop

[fallow yacht]

well apparently the female battery connector's fucked

even though i only see the male side having burns

[tranquil thicket]

Is Portal with RTX a good game to stress test my GPU so figure out temps?

[fallow yacht]

@rigid fjord

[tranquil terrace]

Try cyberpunk 2077 with raytracing

That should be your limit. Youl definetly get sub 60 frames though

[tranquil thicket]

I don’t have cyberpunk

[random gyro]

yeah, its pretty intensive

and it comes free with the original portal on steam

[tranquil thicket]

I got gifted the valve orange box by a server member

[random gyro]

congrats

you got three great games

[sinful cobalt]

furmark

[fallow yacht]

where half life 3

[random gyro]

valve cant count to three, dont scare them

[fallow yacht]

update

[tranquil thicket]

What are you doing?

[fallow yacht]

not my doing they're fixing the connector

[random gyro]

what a beauty

[main nexus]

I’m tryna sell my old pc but Idk how to put a price on it cos the gpu is a zotac rtx 3050 8gb but I cannot find one selling

[random gyro]

what cpu does it have?

[main nexus]

5600

I know the price of everything else but not the gpu

[sinful cobalt]

assuming USD thats like… $300 or smth

assuming 3050 8gb

[tranquil thicket]

For a used 3050??

[sinful cobalt]

the entire pc….

[tranquil thicket]

ooh

The entire pc would cost $1000 here

[sinful cobalt]

holy no reading context

[tranquil thicket]

He wants to know the price of his GPU and you say $300. Of course I think It's only the GPU

A $300 pc here is really unrealistic

[sinful cobalt]

Who would even price a 3050 at $300 USD is the questio

[tranquil thicket]

The prices here are high so the 3050 goes for $150-250 itself

[sinful cobalt]

here is where……………..

[main nexus]

The parts new are like 500 usd bro

[tranquil thicket]

Norway

[sinful cobalt]

it could be in fkin mars for all i know

[tranquil thicket]

Yeah in America.. a new 3050 is like $500 here

[sinful cobalt]

and ur selling used

nobody knows the condition of the pc you’re selling

nobody knows the exact specs of everything

[tranquil thicket]

The cheapest brand new 5090 goes for $3600 in Norway. How much are they in America?

[sinful cobalt]

$3600 what? USD? norway money? bananas?

[tranquil thicket]

$$$ = USD

[rigid fjord]

the combination of the 2, $300-350 system, 5600 second hand ain't worth more than $80, and $90-150 for the 3050 tbh

[sinful cobalt]

What model? What are your taxes??

[main nexus]

holy 25,000 messages, do you go outside?

[rigid fjord]

so $3600 equivalent in NOK then

[tranquil thicket]

The model is MSI RTX5090 TRIO OC.

[tranquil thicket]

36026 NOK

[rigid fjord]

childs play

[main nexus]

yeah i just looked

[sinful cobalt]

25k is amateur numbers for 5 years in the server

[tranquil thicket]

There are many here who I have seen everday for the past 2 years

[sinful cobalt]

try 50k in a single year

[tranquil thicket]

[main nexus]

you have a whole life to do whatever you want to do and yet your choose this

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/humbled-cat-gif-bie-gif-17493722235118145820

[main nexus]

the world is waiting for you

[rigid fjord]

it's been seen and found wanting

[sinful cobalt]

tbf ive learned alot here, both about people and tech

[tranquil thicket]

Should I have DLSS enabled in portal RTX for checking temps or does it not matter?

[rigid fjord]

have you learnt strong google fu ?

[sinful cobalt]

as in “go search google you dimwit”?

[sinful cobalt]

it does not matter
what matters is how much wattage ur gpu is eating and whats the temps

[rigid fjord]

combined with using select minimal wording needed to find the exact piece

[sinful cobalt]

yeah its just like we magically know their problem

[rigid fjord]

have you got RTFM as a standard response to someone yet?

because as we know 90% of it is in the actual manual

[sinful cobalt]

yes, me when I built my PC i kept telling myself to check the manual
(yes, i have)

[rigid fjord]

the other 10% is a google search away, and the 1 necro'd reddit post that had the same issue the person just experienced

because, there's always that 1 necro'd post from a decade ago with that exact issue

[sinful cobalt]

I also have the “WHY DID YOU NOT LISTEN TO THE EXPERIENCED PERSON” card

[golden sage]

thank you

[tranquil thicket]

@rigid fjord Crap

Look at hot spot maximum temp..

[rigid fjord]

you need this to give out to some people, because it's really true

[sinful cobalt]

thats normal ngl

[tranquil thicket]

100c for 3 minutes play time?

[sinful cobalt]

This is such a good one too

[rigid fjord]

i saw where it hit the max, and yeah, pad and paste swap combined with a different fan curve will help

[sinful cobalt]

are your fans screaming?

[tranquil thicket]

of course

100% fan speed

[sinful cobalt]

i mean, its a hotspot- your GPU will throttle and in worst case, just shut down before anything bad happens.

[tranquil thicket]

Btw this was only 3 minutes of play time max

[rigid fjord]

80-85c would be normal in most cases

[tranquil thicket]

I'll get the paste sorted until I get pads

[sinful cobalt]

im assuming they didnt repaste stuff yet, since its a old card, i dont know the context between you 2

[rustic spire]

Hey guys the LTT forums seem to be down. I kinda rember LTT having a spreadsheet with PSU gradings, does anyone have a link?

[tranquil thicket]

No It's not repasted

[sinful cobalt]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/htmlview#gid=1973454078

[sinful cobalt]

the paste is probably as dry as the sahara desert, which is why I said “its normal ngl”

[rigid fjord]

possible to get both, thermalright helios for the paste, and then some odessey for pads

[rigid fjord]

that was the cultist list, but the spl one is more up to date

[tranquil thicket]

Already have some arctic mx-6 laying around I can use

[rigid fjord]

fair enough, helios is the only known legitimate alternative to honeywell's ptm7950

[rustic spire]

Hey guys, anychance someone can double check that this PSU will work with my motherboard and GPU? https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Indigo04/saved/dVKqBm

[sinful cobalt]

ur list is private

[rustic spire]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Indigo04/saved/dVKqBm Just fixed

I'm getting a new PSU for an old build

[sinful cobalt]

yes it’ll work, iirc its a good psu in the A tier region(?)

[rustic spire]

A+

[sinful cobalt]

yes

[rustic spire]

Perfect, so it'll have the right cords for the motherboard and gpu?

[sinful cobalt]

yes

[rustic spire]

Perfect, thank you so much!

[tranquil thicket]

Final test I guess

[tranquil thicket]

Do I need to replace the pads when taking it apart?

[novel robin]

Hey guys this stupid ahh "i know what i have" seller want 280$ for this ancient machine

[rigid fjord]

ye it'll work but tbh for that setup you don't need more than 650w

[rigid fjord]

i would do so, never know how long the pads have been on it, nor their quality

[rustic spire]

Yeah its for a friend who's thinking of upgrading the gpu in the future so im just future proofing

[mint rock]

dear god

[rigid fjord]

looks all greek to me

[novel robin]

Yes it is

[tranquil thicket]

I can't find any thermalright helios in my country

Do you have another option?

[novel robin]

The used greek market is sooo good ( i would say if it was)

[tranquil thicket]

With the pc prices in Norway that's a steal

[novel robin]

Fr? So bad?

[rigid fjord]

not able to order it from the likes of sweden or finland instead ?

[willow echo]

😂 I feel you, but in my case I think it reads the sensor wrong ... at least I really hope so. But as my computer is not up in flames I am quite sure

[raw trout]

Hi

[mint rock]

its fineeeeeee

[rigid fjord]

this looks like hwmonitor instead of hwinfo

[tranquil thicket]

Is this the right product?

[willow echo]

good eye 😂 thermals are fine with my GPU being nice and cozy at 46°C not pan frying heat of 255°C

[rigid fjord]

yup

[thin plover]

the new steam products look sick

[mint rock]

absolutely

[scarlet tartan]

The Steam Machine RN seems like an underpromise and overdeliver thing

It has FP32 Compute better than the PS5 Pro and the Xbox Series X

[mint rock]

atleast it has a cool name

[scarlet tartan]

No it's not just a 7600M laptop GPU

It's a package

And it's not going to be as slow as some say

The only bummer is the vram

At the right price, even that could be a deal

[cold skiff]

It’s Linux based. So it won’t be a massive hit in the console space due to not being able to play the biggest multiplayer games due to kernel level anti cheat not made for Linux.

[scarlet tartan]

It has its own audience

It's a PC, just console shaped

[cold skiff]

Agreed. But you’re better off with a console as it does more

[winged sky]

[scarlet tartan]

A normative Nintendo Switch buyer is very distinct from a Steam Deck enjoyer, so the audience is separate. The overlap is only because of the form factor.

[cold skiff]

If it changes in the future, developed make kernel level anti cheat for it. Game changer

[thin plover]

other consoles can't be used as normal workstations though

[scarlet tartan]

Similarly, this has the small size and approachable price of a console.

[frigid blade]

Why would you want more kernel level anti cheat

[scarlet tartan]

Valve said they'll price it below consoles.

[winged sky]

That would require game devs to take the sticks out of their asses first

[scarlet tartan]

A lot of multiplayer games do that

[cold skiff]

They have to. It’s like 80% gaming capable of a console

[frigid blade]

Right, and it’s not a good thing

[thin plover]

one dollar less

[scarlet tartan]

It's going to be faster than an Xbox Series X at any rate

[thin plover]

probably

[cold skiff]

I think they’re doing this to try and promote developers to do it. I hope it works. Seems like a great console if it happens

[scarlet tartan]

I hope (I know it's not happening) that it's under $400

[winged sky]

More than likely faster than the ps5 too solely because the igpu gets its own gddr6 vram

Maybe not solely

But it def helps

[thin plover]

8gb though

[frigid blade]

It’s just a huge privacy risk, on top of that you give anyone who finds an exploit in the anti cheat the deepest access to your computer

[cold skiff]

Frank Azor says that’s all you need

[thin plover]

who

[winged sky]

People act like 8gb is the end of the world...

[cold skiff]

Head of AMD

Their development head

[scarlet tartan]

The FP32 on the PS5 is 10 Teraflops, and the base GPU here is going to have 17.27

[thin plover]

I mean, it's running steam games optimised for pcs, console games usually have a lot more optimisation no?

[scarlet tartan]

Most settings are lower than the low on PC games

[cold skiff]

Limited development isn’t optimisation

[scarlet tartan]

The ray tracing settings on Alan Wake 2 on PS5 are lower than the PC low

[winged sky]

Buddy. 8gb is fine. Especially for a cube thats like half the size of the xbox.

[cold skiff]

It just makes the environment more optimal

[scarlet tartan]

Upscaling

[frigid blade]

The cube is quite large actually

[scarlet tartan]

It's not running at native 4k

[winged sky]

[winged sky]

No shit Sherlock. Its running a roided out igpu.

[scarlet tartan]

It's not a native 4k machine. It has an RX 7600M.

[thin plover]

16.2 by 15.6 by 15.2cm

that's not large at all

[winged sky]

Wtf are you even talking about.

[frigid blade]

Was making a joke about 6 inches being large

[scarlet tartan]

Anything below 40CUs is an iGPU

[thin plover]

o

[scarlet tartan]

The GPU in the Steam Machine has the same specs as an RX 7600M. I can't make it simpler.

[winged sky]

Thats not how that works at all

[scarlet tartan]

I'm just saying what you did

28CUs are not an iGPU

[winged sky]

No, the hell you didnt

[scarlet tartan]

You seem to have a bad time at handling sarcasm

[frigid blade]

I wonder how much faster these new AI mini PCs are and the price to performance numbers compared to the cube

[winged sky]

You seem to have a hard time stringing together a coherent thought.

This is stupid as hell.

[scarlet tartan]

You seem to have a time making original sentences

[frigid blade]

Online says $500, you can get a 780M for that price and a pretty higher end mobile CPU

[scarlet tartan]

Much like you

[summer token]

Is the 3700x good enough for a stock cooler

[winged sky]

Lmao. Get better at insults and maybe I'll take offense to that.

[summer token]

Base clock not oc

[winged sky]

Yes.

[summer token]

Alr just making sure

Turns out my pc isnt compatible with the 5000 series

[scarlet tartan]

You really have to take some politeness lessons

Maybe some manners

[winged sky]

Don't care, didnt ask.

[scarlet tartan]

Then don't jump mid-explanation and don't be the main character.

[winged sky]

Maybe dont be so wrong people have to do that.

[frigid blade]

What does the semi-custom mean for the CPU and GPU?

[scarlet tartan]

There's nothing wrong in saying that the 8 gigs of VRAM won't be the bottleneck everywhere it's going to be Upscaling all the time.

[winged sky]

Its not like they're hiding that from people.

[scarlet tartan]

It is truly a mistake to engage with a half educated and doubly angry person as you.

[winged sky]

They literally said with fsr

[rigid fjord]

nope, there's an igpu at 40cu's on amd's side

[scarlet tartan]

The 8060s, that's what I meant.

[winged sky]

I cant take a braindamaged person like you seriously mate. You're a riot

[rigid fjord]

the last time i really insulted someone, they didn't speak for 6 months

[winged sky]

[frigid blade]

holy sigma

[scarlet tartan]

You have no technical arguments, only personal insults.

[winged sky]

What did you even say XD

[winged sky]

Riiiight. Off to bed gramps your dementia is kicking in.

[scarlet tartan]

Not everyone is sick Doctor.

[rigid fjord]

i used an old proverb, about fools rushing in where wise men dared to tread, and another one about where how some people speak and make a fool of themself

[winged sky]

Lmao

[peak swan]

Youtube recommended is insane

[winged sky]

Ooo C4

[scarlet tartan]

Besides, you see patients in everyone. Perhaps the clinic is running low.

[peak swan]

Lol

[random gyro]

Good timezone.

So, I was thinking of getting an ASUS TUF Gaming F16 laptop, but I was wondering if you guys know a better alternative?

My budget is around $1.7k, and I don't like gaming laptops with diagonal cuts or just looks... obnoxiously like a gaming laptop. Just something sleek or something like that.

[scarlet tartan]

Depends on regional pricing, have a look at Acer Nitro Vs and Lenovo LOQs

[scarlet tartan]

That could fit a Legion 5

[winged sky]

Wait holy hell that was 9 years ago?!

[random gyro]

What Legion 5, specifically? Just 5? Also, I was thinking if it's the 50 series, and whatnot.

I will, ofc, upgrade the RAM and storage in the future.

[scarlet tartan]

Where are you located?

[random gyro]

Philippines. I did want to do Framework, but the region limitations and stuff.

[scarlet tartan]

Check if you can find a Legion 5 with an RTX 5060

The cheapest I can see are 5050 laptops. Not recommended.

[verbal prawn]

oh the forum is down :(

[random gyro]

Would the one I first mentioned be fine? I can see an RTX 5070, i7 one.

The ASUS TUF Gaming F16, to be specific.

[scarlet tartan]

https://pcx.com.ph/collections/lenovo-loq/products/lenovo-loq-15irx9-83dv00bvph-geforce-rtx-4060-intel-core-i7-laptop-luna-grey

[scarlet tartan]

Yes

It's the best value it seems

https://pcx.com.ph/products/hp-omen-16-ap0054ax-bk6k7pa-geforce-rtx-5070-amd-ryzen-ai-9-laptop-shadow-black?_pos=6&_sid=c8d351070&_ss=r&_fid=613972030

[thorny saddle]

hi

[scarlet tartan]

This appears to be a better machine @random gyro

[random gyro]

May I ask, about the camera out of the screen of the Lenovo, is it like that irl?

[scarlet tartan]

Camera?

[scarlet tartan]

Yes it is slightly raised.

But that is a like a lip

And it's not a 5070 laptop

[verbal prawn]

go to sleep snail

[thorny saddle]

just woke up

[verbal prawn]

hey snail is the ltt forum down or just me

[thorny saddle]

down-zo

[winged sky]

More sleep

5 more minutes

[thorny saddle]

nah

COD7 releases tomorrow

[winged sky]

Wasn't there another cod released like... not even a year ago or am I tripping

Oh sorry

COD 6 was released just over a year ago

[scarlet tartan]

It's sad they've shifted to yearly cycles

[winged sky]

Jesus I remember it coming out like it was yesterday

[thorny saddle]

it is but whatever

I was hoping BF6 campaign would be good but meh

[scarlet tartan]

I've played a lot of warzone. It's an itch you can't ever fully scratch.

[scarlet tartan]

turned out to look so unfinished

[winged sky]

I never could get into the battlefield games... I tried to like em but I just found it boring

[thorny saddle]

yup

[scarlet tartan]

I finally parted after some 1600 hours

I've been playing since MW19

[thorny saddle]

I have no idea how many hours I am in. Many many.

[scarlet tartan]

So you're waiting for it to go live?

[thorny saddle]

No just looking forward to trying it

[scarlet tartan]

Oh

[ripe python]

forum down

[tranquil thicket]

Why does the 2080 FE have one million screws?

[random gyro]

I'm going to check this one. Sorry for the late reply.

I went out all of a sudden with my cousin to buy food. 😅

Mm, I guess I'll settle for this one.

https://pcx.com.ph/products/asus-tuf-gaming-f16-fx608jpr-rv075wsm-geforce-rtx-5070-intel-core-i7-laptop-jaeger-gray

[fallow yacht]

how t fdo i fix this @rigid fjord https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=dc084ed4-bb7a-455c-a494-207ba4aa159f

i swear there's fucking wrong with my speeds cuz fast.com shows me my planned speed

[scarlet tartan]

Looks good

This one has an AMD CPU and a better build quality, and better battery
https://pcx.com.ph/products/hp-omen-16-ap0054ax-bk6k7pa-geforce-rtx-5070-amd-ryzen-ai-9-laptop-shadow-black?_pos=6&_sid=c8d351070&_ss=r&_fid=613972030

[alpine heron]

Any recommendations for a travel keyboard and mouse? I have typically used laptops to run game demos and stuff but the performance of mini PCs and their compactness makes them appealing to rig up as a box I can just sit down instead of a laptop, but I sometimes need to still use them like a computer to adjust some settings or troubleshoot some crash etc

[pseudo swallow]

Idk if this is new or not

[grizzled frost]

Crossposting is ill advised

[scarlet tartan]

Arst thou a mod, Iroh?

[grizzled frost]

Mod, I am not, Harbinger of good advice, I am.

[thorny saddle]

We are all mods of our own existence

[scarlet tartan]

I see thee, Gentleman, and I see good authority.

[grizzled frost]

But yeah mods don't really step in unless they need to, so it's fairly common for users to kind of keep each other in line here

[scarlet tartan]

I see company of men wise and generous.

[scarlet tartan]

Which is for the best. Moral suasion always is better than hard power.

[grizzled frost]

May not work for every server, but it works well here

People generally listen to polite reminders from others

[scarlet tartan]

so do you game?

[grizzled frost]

I do indeed

[scarlet tartan]

Which genre?

[grizzled frost]

Mostly sandbox games

[scarlet tartan]

I see

[grizzled frost]

A bit of everything, but mostly that

[scarlet tartan]

We all have a central genre

Horror and shooting games for me are that genre

[bronze summit]

Steam Machine only 40 dolla

[scarlet tartan]

That's overpriced

[grizzled frost]

with a GPU less performant than a 3060

[scarlet tartan]

Um, no.

[alpine heron]

40 bucks for a what?

[scarlet tartan]

It's GPU compute is equivalent to an RX 6700

[grizzled frost]

Seems the specs are non-specific, but that's what i've seen from quite a few people

[scarlet tartan]

I too was rather upset earlier

[grizzled frost]

Do you have a source for the RX 6700 equivalency claim?

[scarlet tartan]

but I compared around and as per FP32 Float and general napkin math it should be northwards of the PS5

It's comparable because of architectural similarities

It has 17.27 TFlops of FP32 compute

PS5 has 10-ish, Xbox Series X has 12-ish

[alpine heron]

Comparing flops isn't all that great. It's better to compare flips

[grizzled frost]

RX 6700 is RDNA 2.0, the steam machine uses an RNDA3 GPU

[scarlet tartan]

And the 6700 has 32 CUs, SM has 28

it can't be slower than the 6700

[grizzled frost]

RX 6700 has 36CUs

and at a TDP of 175w, vs 110w on the steam machine

[scarlet tartan]

But RDNA 3 has certain improvements

[alpine heron]

I thought steam machines were dead?

[scarlet tartan]

There's a new one

[alpine heron]

There's the deck now but the boxes were desd

[sleek ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/frankenstein-its-alive-happy-excited-gif-5625959

[grizzled frost]

steam announced a new steam machine

[scarlet tartan]

It was announced yesterday/today

[alpine heron]

Cool, any reason to not just entirely ignore it since the deck was such an abysmal experience for me I doubt their new hardware will be an enjoyable experience for me

[scarlet tartan]

I don't work for steam, sorry

[grizzled frost]

I mean the steam deck is quite nice if you want decent desktop games on a handheld

[scarlet tartan]

But it could be a great deal at a right price

they haven't announced a price yet

[golden sage]

Hey guys, just curious, what ramsticks are yall running on ur personal builds?

[latent pasture]

steam deck's main advantage (cheap) is useless to most people here

[alpine heron]

Deck software was unusable for me
And handful of lack of attention to detail on the hardware side are what I disliked

[scarlet tartan]

We really despise Steam around here don't we?

[alpine heron]

Was way too beta feeling whenever I got mine a year after launch

[scarlet tartan]

[alpine heron]

I mean my steam library is 2000 some games

[grizzled frost]

2x48gb ddr5 6000mt/s cl30 corsair vengeance

[alpine heron]

Although I resisted steam for a long time due to its DRM

[scarlet tartan]

In my handling the Steam Deck OLED is the best balanced of all handhelds. in comparison to the Rog Ally Z1 Extreme.

It's the slowest though

It's not the most performant, not the most fancy

But for a lot of indie games it's a good medium

For the price that is

[alpine heron]

Have they improved the default button mappings? And added the ability to create system wide presets that can then be built off of for game specific presets?

[sleek ibex]

The recreation of the DX2-66 build was used to have is coming in full circle now

[scarlet tartan]

That's BazziteOS

[alpine heron]

No clue what that is

[distant frigate]

Yeah.

[latent pasture]

how

[distant frigate]

I mean my internet did actually go out

The ONT showed broadband light and service lights green and on but Ethernet was solid green

Router was solid red

[fallow yacht]

i'm so fucking irritated rn cuz bufferbloat waveform speed test shows my speed at 20 mbps while fast.com shows 300 mbps

[grizzled frost]

then bufferbloat is a shitty speedtest

[scarlet tartan]

It depends on the server too

[distant frigate]

I just have to guess this was a software issue/glitch lmao

The physical connections were fine

[scarlet tartan]

have you tried rebooting

[fallow yacht]

cloudflare also shows the same thing

[scarlet tartan]

Then the fast.com server is probably located in your armpit (/s, really close)

and other servers are further away

[fallow yacht]

weird thing is when i use singtel server in 🇵🇭 i get the planned speed

[alpine heron]

Anyone got a recommendation for a tiny keyboard/mouse solution?

[scarlet tartan]

How tiny?

[fallow yacht]

lemme try taipei cuz apparently that's where cf is

[scarlet tartan]

Logitech K400 Plus small? It has a built in trackpad

[alpine heron]

As small as practical for the usecasd

[fallow yacht]

yep

[fallow yacht]

my fucking isp redirects me to fucking taiwan

[scarlet tartan]

@alpine heron

[alpine heron]

Solid maybe

[fallow yacht]

when they could've used HK

[scarlet tartan]

One Internet Policy

[alpine heron]

Can I use it wired as well?

[scarlet tartan]

I don't think so

[alpine heron]

As at that size I'd like wired as a backup

[distant frigate]

Well yes I unplugged and plugged in the router. Didn’t work. Unplugged the ONT and plugged it back in. Also didn’t work

After 15 minutes my internet did come back up

[scarlet tartan]

It's wireless only @alpine heron

[fallow yacht]

what did i miss

weird

[alpine heron]

Downside of doing stuff at conventions, they're very very electronically noisey

[grizzled frost]

in my theater i can sometimes catch a local news station coming through our wireless mics

wireless stuff is weird

[distant frigate]

lol the unloaded latency

[safe peak]

My system contradicts itself.

[distant frigate]

My ISP Speedtest

Not bad latency

Also it’s Ethernet Speedtest

[grizzled frost]

Holy hotbar, do you have every app on your machine there?

[alpine heron]

Yeah it is

[safe peak]

I am trying to set up a AD Server and the laptop does refuses to connect, and yes i use a lot of stuff, 3 SSD's are full.

[grizzled frost]

as for the issue, go to #1027757333117415424, but why so many SSDs

[safe peak]

I do a lot on my pc.

[random gyro]

Nice. I'm gonna look into reviews of this and whatnot.

[iron ruin]

The Steam Machine needs two additional cosmetic options:

A companion cube skin, and an Orange Box skin.

Help us Dbrand, you are our only hope.

[steel umbra]

Ip address leaked

[tranquil thicket]

🤯

[steel umbra]

Ddos'ed, router haxcked, personal information stoled, doxxed

raided by swat

life ruined

[ocean sphinx]

Easy solution: Linux 😂

[ocean sphinx]

you do realize that he's on 5G, so yeah shared IP and stuff?

[steel umbra]

Omgg 5G!!! Radiation

[ocean sphinx]

OMG

[steel umbra]

microwave, you're cooked

[ocean sphinx]

Yep, definitely done for

[distant frigate]

That’s not 5G lol

I’m connected via Ethernet so the WiFi symbol wouldn’t show up

I have an Ethernet to USB-C dongle

[steel umbra]

Fake

00.000% real

[distant frigate]

Lmao

[hallow jasper]

ltt forum is down, this is a disaster

have to survive with only discord?? eughhhh

[tulip sparrow]

I assume that the new Steam Machine(odd to say that a little) comes with at least 1 steam controller in the box?

[hallow jasper]

I don't see anything on the product page that indicates it does

unless i'm missing it

[tulip sparrow]

Would make far to much sense

[hallow jasper]

likely a $75-$100 item on its own, probably didn't want to drive the price of the box up when you can do everythign with a KBM

could have included a very basic controller, but then less people would have been inclined to buy the fancy one

decisions had to be made, i guess

[tulip sparrow]

The Steam Machine does have the "controller puck" built in

[hallow jasper]

at least

[broken trellis]

I'm definitely buying the controller just for couch gaming

Having access to all the steam deck profiles will be very convenient

[tulip sparrow]

I still don't get the difference between standard rumble and "HD" Rumble

[thorny saddle]

Where did laptop NAS guy go

[tulip sparrow]

Jake?

OR Alex?

Check their youtube channels is all I Can honestly say

[daring crystal]

Source: Mashable India
https://search.app/fv5P7

12.1.4 🤤🤤🤤

[hallow jasper]

In my mind i assume its the difference between android vibration motors and Apple super precise haptic engine

[tulip sparrow]

I wouldn't classify a soundbar as more then 5.1.2(4)

[hallow jasper]

did he migrate to tc1?

[thorny saddle]

oh, i thought he was in both

[hallow jasper]

oh maybe

[strange atlas]

What kind of difference that expensive headphones make?

[tulip sparrow]

Depends on your ears and brain honestly

[strange atlas]

Only with studio headphones i've seen the difference while playing guitar but in day use i cant see the difference

I need headphones but i'm not sure if i should spend so much on it

[tulip sparrow]

You pretty nuch hit the nail on the head "Studio" headphones are for making audio such as your guitar while they can sound bad for listening to music

Really depends on your brain and ears and what you find most pleasing to listen to for yourself

[strange atlas]

oh i dont listen to music on the pc maybe thats why like i said i was talking about day use

[hallow jasper]

In very general terms, they strive to more accurately reproduce the dynamics of the music as much as possible. Beyond that, things get much more complicated.

[strange atlas]

okay that makes sense thank you

[thorny saddle]

There's a notable difference between my $1500 headphones and my $200 corsair headphones

[strange atlas]

i cant see any difference between 15 dollar headphones and 200 dollar headphones in daily use to be honest

but like i said i dont listen to music on the pc

[ocean sphinx]

Very solid explanation, I would add to it that cheap headphones tend to overly boost bass and sacrifice highs and often especially mids

[hallow jasper]

Consider yourself lucky, I suppose. Easier on the wallet

[ocean sphinx]

And you will notice the mids being SO MUCH better. Not having mids sucks a lot. The mids is the region where many instruments have their characteristic sound

[tulip sparrow]

No highs no lows must be Bose

[hallow jasper]

you might be aging yourself with that one

[thorny saddle]

"I don't notice the difference between $15 and $200 headphones but I don't listen to music" is like... wild

[strange atlas]

i only watch some videos and play games thats all

[tulip sparrow]

lol

@thorny saddle music on PC doesn't mean they don't listen to music on say their mobile phone or something else

[strange atlas]

i've been using 15 dollar headphones since like 2014-2015 or something outside of cable snap it holds well

[ocean sphinx]

Have your ears checked. But lucky you... I am still not happy with my studio reference monitor setup that even has a subwoofer... and I don't like my headset, but that's expected since it's a G Pro X (fairly cheap, but flat enough curve to be good enough for game audio when playing with friends)

[strange atlas]

yeah i listen to it on phone cause on my pc and my phone it shows themselves as different region so i cant listen to music on same account

[alpine heron]

Any of those little mini Bluetooth keyboards support wired use since theyre using usb for recharging anyway?

[tulip sparrow]

I personally have a set of Audio Technica ATH-m50x for my main headphones and a set of Adam Audio D3V for speakers

[strange atlas]

oh god

that shit is awfully expensive

[hallow jasper]

those Adams are apparently little beasts

[tulip sparrow]

Around $100 or so for the headphones while the speakers yeah are abit more at around $300

[strange atlas]

300 dollar for headphones seems a bit crazy to me

[ocean sphinx]

Solid speakers. And nice pair of headphones

[strange atlas]

you can get gpu for that

[ocean sphinx]

Well, relatively speaking ofc

[alpine heron]

I'm using some rcf art 935s as the speakers for my pc

[hallow jasper]

Better things exist out there.

[alpine heron]

Since that's the equipment I already have

[tulip sparrow]

I have a 3070 Ti that I got for $450 so I need a bite more then $300 to repalce it with anything meaningful

[ocean sphinx]

I am rocking JBL LSR 305p (x2) plus an Adam T10S

[hallow jasper]

I've got a set of M40x's but man those things are uncomfortable. I haven't really used them in a few years.

[tulip sparrow]

I also have a FiiO K3 for the headphones as well

[ocean sphinx]

That's not unreasonable at all. I am thinking of getting some Sennheiser HD650S or the like as a replacement for my headset. Apparently they do sound really good

[thorny saddle]

I think I am insulted you feel it necessary to tell me this

[strange atlas]

@thorny saddle @ocean sphinx @tulip sparrow Oh also this could be why

i always use it like this

and my headphone sound is at like half point

[ocean sphinx]

You should hear a difference very quickly

[hallow jasper]

I've been using HD650's for coming up on 10 years now, can recommend.

[ocean sphinx]

That's what I heard from everybody who has used them. Good to know

[strange atlas]

i mean mid tier from sennheiser %99 yeah

maybe even high tier

[ocean sphinx]

Mid tier definitely. There are much better ones at much higher prices

Might also consider going for Audio Technica ones, but not sure yet which ones there

[thorny saddle]

Also cannot dismiss evaluating headphones you will need to consider DAC and Amp as well

plugging high ohm headphones into a laptop isn't going to reflect it well

[ocean sphinx]

That for sure

[strange atlas]

would iem headphones be good?

[thorny saddle]

maybe

[strange atlas]

something like Wraith Sense IEMs

[hallow jasper]

Hifiman has a few planar cans under $300

[strange atlas]

are one of these good

Moondrop Quark 2 IEM
7Hz Elua Ultra IEM
7HZ G1 IEM
7HZ Zero: 2 IEM

have changed everything on my pc except for the headphones kinda want to change it now

its been like 11-12 years with same cheap crap

[tulip sparrow]

I personally can't do in ear earbuds without my ears screaming at me in pain after a few moments

I have a set of open earbuds myself that work well along with the aforementioned Audio Technica headphones for when I want to sit down at my PC and listen to music or whatever

[ocean sphinx]

Air Pods pro are the only in-ear headphones I can wear for two hours straight

[strange atlas]

big ass headphones makes my head feel dizzy after a long session kinda wanna go with earbuds if its possible

[lapis forge]

Has anyone here tried the zen browser?

[hallow jasper]

probably haven't experienced lightweight open-backs

[tulip sparrow]

I want to say Zen is a firefox fork?

[distant frigate]

I second this

[tulip sparrow]

Or is it chromium based like everything else?

[distant frigate]

I’ve worn my AirPods Pro 2 for like 5 hours straight

[lapis forge]

It's firefox fork from what i have seen

[ocean sphinx]

It is Gecko based I am pretty sure

[strange atlas]

i dont know but its very old like i said like since 2014-15

[tulip sparrow]

Airpods style do not work for me and fall out instantly

[ocean sphinx]

eww USB and surround

[strange atlas]

i dont use the fuck up virtual surround

It sounds like shit

[ocean sphinx]

Yes

[tulip sparrow]

I don't see why there would be any issues with the Zen browser as long as its still being updated

[ocean sphinx]

Yeah pretty sure it is updated

[tulip sparrow]

I know a bunch of firefox forks have gone dead over the years

[strange atlas]

by the way apparently you were right same frequency for lows and highs

so i'm listening to monotone things all the time damn

[ocean sphinx]

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/zen-browser
Appears to get updates regularly

[hallow jasper]

i'm not sure what i'm looking at without context. either way, good open-back cans can feel like you're not wearing anything at all.

[tulip sparrow]

The one and only issue I have with my open earbuds is that they have issues charging in their case for some reason

I literally have to fiddle with them in the case to get them charging and even then they might not if one has died completely

[ocean sphinx]

That's odd. I would recommend cleaning the contacts

Especially in the case