tech-chat-1

[azure topaz]

are we aware of this

[ebon marlin]

getting a G4 Plus would be a waste of money over a G3 Plus

that gen5 won't do anything it'll default to gen4 speeds

[gilded harbor]

I lost you here, why does intel matter?

[azure topaz]

B660

is not an amd compatible chipset

[ebon marlin]

also lots of b660m boards are budget boards so they don't have nvme heatsinks and for gen5 nvme heatsinks are necessary

[ebon marlin]

I just gave an example with AMD

[azure topaz]

mr catto said somethin about amd so i assumed you had amd selected

[azure topaz]

zeus, smite this guy down

[ebon marlin]

3 years ago lines up with am5

not a bad guess tbh

[brazen glen]

assuming AMD these days is usually safe lol

[gilded harbor]

It does for one of the 2 SSD slots, I'm guessing it's a heatsink, if not, a very pretty metal cover jajjaja

[ocean axle]

I mean, gen5 ssds are a waste anyway

[azure topaz]

they all r, but amd more common yeah

[ebon marlin]

on gen4 and gen3 heatsinks are useless so you can take the heatsink from ur previous drive and use it on the gen5 ssd if you're using another nvme currently

[brazen glen]

Talking to microcenter reps about sales these days is funny they can count Intel systems sold on two hands at my store

[azure topaz]

this is not true

we went over this

my gen4 ssd throttles pretty bad installing a game without a heatsink

my gen3 got really close to throttling while installing a 60gb game without a heatsink

[gilded harbor]

Main looks to be a Samsung 980 gen 3, the more you know

[ocean axle]

Gen 3 is where it's generally not needed, but even that depends on the drive

[azure topaz]

yes

[ebon marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-fuentes-gif-11267151480883810436

[azure topaz]

i would go heatsink more often than not

i had like real issues w/my gen 4 on no heatsink installing games

[ocean axle]

Better yet, fan

[azure topaz]

i have fast fast internet and fast-ish drive and it really couldnt handle that

2.5gbit

[ebon marlin]

My Kingston KC3000 was fine without a heatsink

[gilded harbor]

To be fair this drive is a writeoff and as we all know, tax writeoff are free money (as Linux defends) jk

[ebon marlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=356rZ8IBCps also damn this person already got the steam stuff hands on

[gilded harbor]

Will I get a gen4 and still keep my OS on the gen3 because I'm a lazy ass, yeah, most likely

[left trellis]

I got banned from the nvidia server 😭

[azure topaz]

will it still make no difference? yeah

[ocean axle]

I have a 980 pro in my gaming desktop
It still boots off a 120gb 850 evo

[gilded harbor]

Did you try to form a union?

[azure topaz]

i use my oem gen4 samsung drive and thats it

[ocean axle]

If you have a slower SSD, I'd actually recommend you put your OS on that instead of wasting the faster storage

[ebon marlin]

i got banned from Nvidia's server few years ago for asking on should I get a 6950xt or a 4070 lol

[left trellis]

I talked about an amd purchase
Asked too many questions about different gpus to upgrade to
Downgraded from a 7900xt to a 1080 ti bc I was testing the 1080 ti

was told my story wasnt straight because i said I had a
3050 6gb
6650xt
3070
7900xt
1080ti

when I HAVE had all those cards and current own 3 of the 5

and when he said stop trolling i said NOBODY is trolling

[ocean axle]

heh, I should go ask questions in there

[left trellis]

I said I can take pictures with a timestamp if you REALLY want but they dont care ig 😭

[ocean axle]

I have a lot of GPUs, a lot of them

[left trellis]

no bc what you you mean

"you were looking for a 3080, 4070 ti, and a 4080" when youre saying im trolling 😭

Im just looking at marketplace

[sleek ibex]

Half of the cards I own are WB'd

[brazen glen]

I’ve got a quadro k2000, a Vega 56, and a 9070xt. I feel like that’s a cursed combo

[azure topaz]

i have

[gilded harbor]

I got a rtx 3060 so yeah, make fun of me... And I got it in 2022 so yeah, words can't hurt me anymore

[ebon marlin]

oo Steam Frame is a standalone VR headset like the Quest VR headset

[sleek ibex]

The oldest I own is older than a good chunk of folks here

[azure topaz]

5070ti, 3080, 2070 super times 2, RX 6650XT, i got rid of my 7800xt to my roommate, and a crap ton of misc cards that suck

[dusk patio]

I also built in 2022 (RX 6600XT)

[ocean axle]

(Nvidia) 285, 580, 780ti, 980ti, titan XP, 3090, gt 710, gt 1030
(Amd) 4870, 5970, 6950, 7850, 390x, fury, 480, 580, Vega 64, w5700, 7900xtx, 9070xt
(Intel) Ivy, has well, Skylake, kaby lake, coffee lake, rocket lake, ice lake, a770, b580
(Mac) Haswell, coffelake, m1
And snapdragon (windows)

[distant frigate]

wtf?

[ocean axle]

That's at least most of them

[distant frigate]

Pulling the plug on BEAD lmao

[gilded harbor]

I do have to say I only had 2 GPUs in my life, a gtx 660 and a rtx 3080 (zotac gaming, trash ewaste cant move most old games on ultra). So yeah we poor here jajajja

[sleek ibex]

285 ayyy I used to daily that card

[ebon marlin]

oldest gpu I own is the Nvidia Geforce4 Ti 4200/4400 I forgot which one

[ocean axle]

I think mine might be broken

Last I tried to use it drivers didn't want to install

[sleek ibex]

The 285 is a mementos from my XP rig from circa 2009

[ocean axle]

I have it for testing OpenGL

Because it supports GL 3.3, and MCJE is still GL 3.3, so that's technically a supported card

8800 GTX through the GTX 285 are all tesla based cards

[rigid fjord]

that's a fair chunk of gpu's a small fraction compared to what fzr has i believe

[sleek ibex]

Sadly I don't have much from the builds prior to the 2009 XP rig

Just some parts here and there

[gilded harbor]

Am I crazy or was developing more exciting with old cards (as an engine developer and OpenGL/vulkan dev) i don't know why but I had more fun developing with old cards jajajaja. New cards just eat bad performance up, I want my mistakes to make the game go 10fps, don't cover for me!

[ebon marlin]

oh what the fuck the Steam Frame will run on a Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 SOC so the same soc on my phone lol

[gilded harbor]

I want my screen space pospo shader to blow up my computer thank you

[ocean axle]

Actually, that reminds me, @peak knot, your devil 13, I'd like to buy it, DM me what info you need from me

[sleek ibex]

I would love to see if someday I could recreate my first rig that was a K6-2 based system (or that's very close to it)

[ocean axle]

Just throw some vkCmdPipelineBarrier(ALL_STAGES, ALL_STAGES, MEM_READ | MEM_WRITE, MEM_READ | MEM_WRITE) in there, 10fps in no time

[gilded harbor]

🫡

[ocean axle]

Also, RT can very easily explode in your face

Was play testing some stuff, walked into an RT heavy area, instantly dropped me from well over 60fps to at most 15

[sleek ibex]

Had an S3 Virge DX with Voodoo2, ESS 1868F (or maybe even 1869F don't remember), 64MB ram, socket 7 motherboard, and Windows 95 OSR2.5

[ocean axle]

On a 7900xtx

[brazen glen]

I forget if it’s hardforums or OC dot net but there’s an extant thread that’s been going since like 2006 with picture embeds that still work of old custom builds

It’s wild to see how janky and DIY it was 20 years ago

[gilded harbor]

Ah i have to get into coding RT, once I reach FIRE and I have time to go back to personal projects 😭

[ocean axle]

Also while not quite the same level of explode in your face, modern GPUs aren't infinitely fast, you can easily choke them

I've gotten me 9070xt choked on I think draw dispatch

Either that or poly rate, but I think it was draw dispatch

[gilded harbor]

Just do a fragment shader with a non 2 step blur with a kernel size of the screen width and let it rip jajajaj

[rigid fjord]

fancy getting one of the old ati rage cards?

[gilded harbor]

Or give it as a task to one of my students, they always seem to find a surprisingly creative way to destroy the uni computers

[hardy horizon]

Kinky, I too enjoy choking my GPU 😜

Damn I really do need more RAM huh?

[gilded harbor]

Download some more, easy

[hardy horizon]

Also anyone make a screen protector to calm down the distracting glares? That's at 600 nits.

[ocean axle]

bonk

[hardy horizon]

Should have shown the ram page huh 🤦

[frigid blade]

oof soldered ram

[hardy horizon]

I did notice lunar lake doesn't idle low like 14900HX, that would run .8 -1.1 GHz. This one (earlier today, not rn) was sitting at 2.2 at the lowest (task manager reported numbers.)

[gilded harbor]

You have 2 chrome tabs open what did you expect?

[frigid blade]

And im still running at JEDEC default speeds 😩

Ive been wanting to upgrade this motherboard for so long so I could get them running at like 6000MT/s

But I dont have the play money yet

Capped out at 5400MT/s but I broke something and I dont feel like tuning again

[hardy horizon]

Why does Google drive HATE having 4 accounts? It always breaks, then the authorization link doesn't work in Firefox (default browser) so you have to change your default browser, to fix it 😭

[upper fossil]

Hey I’m building a PC for the first time and I don’t know whether I should remove the red standoffs or leave them where they are? Yellow circles are where I need to add the 2 other standoffs. It’s for a Micro ATX mobo

[hardy horizon]

Sigh 🙄

[frigid blade]

If you're not going to use those standoffs where they are, you might as well, Im going to assume they just put them in the regular ATX format for convenience

[spiral gyro]

I’m considering getting this one I’m seriously considering getting this https://www.argos.co.uk/product/7799053

[ocean axle]

Also, I will note, my collection is largely for functional testing purposes, rather than just shelf ornaments, hence why I have a lot of generations of cards, and not (many) duplicates within a generation

[upper fossil]

sorry, I’m not a native speaker, should I leave them or take them out?

[frigid blade]

It's a personal preference, I wouldn't take them out (because I'm lazy), but someone else might

[upper fossil]

I see

[rigid fjord]

you want all the stand off's to match the motherboard

[upper fossil]

I’ll have to remove one because I got just one extra that came with the mobo

[hardy horizon]

i forgot i had internet, so used to being mobile only

[rigid fjord]

that's fine then, the others can be either left there or taken out and stored away

[hardy horizon]

why is this laptop absolutely SCREAMING? lol

[rigid fjord]

the user

[tired bear]

intel + hp

[ocean axle]

PEBKAC?

[azure topaz]

LOOOSEER

[rigid fjord]

always dude, always

[hardy horizon]

its not even doing anything rn:/

[frigid blade]

bro i dont got time for that anymore

i hate waiting literally 5 minutes after each tune is applied to check if its stable

[rigid fjord]

PICNIC, also works @ocean axle

[azure topaz]

that’s why i set 9000 and it just worked

[ocean axle]

PICNIC?

[azure topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/i-be-profen-gif-9435864923799777590

[hardy horizon]

65w powerbrick is WAYY too small. its added 30% in an HOUR :/

[frigid blade]

on 4 dimms? 😭

[rigid fjord]

Problem in Chair, Not in Computer

[azure topaz]

no but that’s also why i don’t have 4 dimms

[ocean axle]

Ahh

[frigid blade]

4 dimms are for sigmas

[azure topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/blob-jelly-memes-stare-at-it-bob's-gif-8902687973428544154

[hardy horizon]

i will say its nice to not be riding 99C on intel anymore. yeah its loud, but i prefer this vs constant downclocks.

[tired bear]

i sometimes charge my elitebook g9 with 20w phone charger lmao

[hardy horizon]

SOOO i tried this. the mac will do it, the HP cannot.

[bronze summit]

I'm fighting the urge to do this rn

[rigid fjord]

there's also error ID 10 T which really describes a good chunk of people

[tired bear]

idk, mine charges on usb pd 15-20w no problem

even 18w powerbank charges it

[hardy horizon]

it actually something i really dont like, in a pinch being able to charge, even slowly off a 20w ipad charger is better than nothing

[frigid blade]

@azure topaz I was able to get an iGPU partitioned to a VM \O/

[ocean axle]

I knew that one already

[tired bear]

but when it drains it gets little confused and charge flow reverses

[hardy horizon]

espically when its type c charging only.

[rigid fjord]

can tell dude, you suffered through to many of them

[tired bear]

i bet you can charge it off 5v if you turn the laptop off first

[hardy horizon]

when on it wont charge, when shutdown it SAYS its charging via LED, but my cable with the monitior in it shows 0W

[azure topaz]

hurray

if only i had an igpu in my server

[frigid blade]

i just need an AMD card to test now

and I can say it officially supports AMD, with only 1 card tested

[azure topaz]

how does one not have amd card

[hardy horizon]

i will try again tonight to verify

the mac can charge on 20W charger while running lol

[rigid fjord]

my personal favourite is FUBAR

[frigid blade]

idk i have 3 nvidia cards

[empty quartz]

What cpu did you have before?

[ocean axle]

screm

[bronze summit]

I sadly have an NVIDIA Card and I won't swap it till it DIES

[frigid blade]

1060 3GB, 3070Ti, and 4090

[hardy horizon]

14900HX

[pulsar obsidian]

And im stuck on my gtx 1650

[empty quartz]

You had a laptop cpu…

[bronze summit]

I7

[forest wyvern]

Hi yall Apple Watch SE 2 or

[hardy horizon]

yeah

[pulsar obsidian]

I need a upgrade, I don't have enough vram

[forest wyvern]

Haha so cool looking

[bronze summit]

Samsung Active Watch

[rigid fjord]

fitbit

[empty quartz]

Laptop or laptop cpu slapped onto desktop mobo

[pulsar obsidian]

Aperture science entertainment cube

[forest wyvern]

But it ain't as cool as the Microsoft band

[empty quartz]

Do you have an iphone?

[azure topaz]

i’m not sad about it

[abstract wigeon]

HOLY SHIT

[hardy horizon]

had the constant bug where the fans wouldn't ramp fast enough and hit 112c according to log before black screen.

[hardy horizon]

laptop

[forest wyvern]

Yeah it was more sarcasm my mind is made up on the Apple watch se 2 for walking and counting steps

[empty quartz]

No wonder you hit high temps then

[forest wyvern]

But I'm down for alternatives

If you all have some haha

[gleaming rose]

https://www.engadget.com/ar-vr/valves-steam-frame-vr-headset-is-finally-official-and-its-coming-in-2026-181909387.html

[forest wyvern]

My budget is £300

[gleaming rose]

well this is exciting news - another thing I want but can't afford

[hardy horizon]

i guess the lack of charging even with a too hot to touch power brick makes sense, 65w charger, but CPU was using 30W of that

[rigid fjord]

when you witness this at any moment, you really know how bad it's going to be with the aftermath

[hardy horizon]

yeah both are laptops

[empty quartz]

I love my macbook, hits a max of 60c

[hardy horizon]

PCH power HAS to be wrong right??

[formal sonnet]

Likely because they don't expect a person to normally need to sign into multiple accounts at once.

[hardy horizon]

work, and personal

[empty quartz]

Repaste

[hardy horizon]

huh?

[empty quartz]

Repaste it

[hardy horizon]

why, its brand new

[formal sonnet]

Yee, I was just gonna say, same here. I suspect most Cloud providers expect people to use different user accounts on their Operating System or something, at least, in terms of using the Desktop Sync clients.

[hardy horizon]

also that wont change the PCH power?

[azure topaz]

lol probably

[empty quartz]

Weird

[hardy horizon]

total system power 37W, but PCH power listed at 102W lol

[azure topaz]

i don’t think a chipset can draw more than a handful of watts especially in a laptop

it would explode and overheat and die probably instantly

chipset failures are actually why a lot of laptops die

[hardy horizon]

if you set chrome as default its fine when it reauthorizes, what you see for teh error is what happens if you try to use the link in a tab drive didnt open for you, or in FireFox

[hardy horizon]

nevermind that cpu power

[empty quartz]

@azure topaz btw, i almost have all the parts i need to build the xbox pc

Well

Not really, i still need a psu, gpu, and riser cable

[balmy tapir]

xbox pc as in parts placed in a xbox?

[empty quartz]

Yuh

Xbox one

[ocean axle]

Which Xbox?

Base, s, or x?

[empty quartz]

Base

[balmy tapir]

neat

[ocean axle]

neat

[random junco]

what do you intend on doing with the current internals of it

[ocean axle]

What parts are you going with?

[hardy horizon]

Next gen Xbox at $799 base, $1500 top model, you buying?

[balmy tapir]

is this true?

[hardy horizon]

Legion go 2 (?) is $1500

[balmy tapir]

$1500 is absurd for a console

[bronze summit]

@rigid fjord So an old gear that I used to want so badly as a child has arrived at a very cheap price. Should I get it or nah?

[hardy horizon]

THEORETICAL 💀 sorry

[rigid fjord]

no different than building in a revolt h3

[empty quartz]

I have a bunch of asrock and asus h310-i boards sitting around

[rigid fjord]

what gear? and do you have the room?

[hardy horizon]

Is it tho? That's $900 in 2019 money.

[balmy tapir]

well a little more different lol

[balmy tapir]

and? whos paying $900 for a console???

[bronze summit]

Logitech G27 and I have the room in the garage to do it and I'm also getting into a new house

[ocean axle]

How much was the PS3 in today money?

[rigid fjord]

go for it

[random junco]

anything more than 600 shouldnt be considered

[bronze summit]

Here it is https://www.facebook.com/share/1WxrB8VAEe/

[rigid fjord]

nope, same size tbh

[empty quartz]

@hardy horizon the series x is still $730 cad

[abstract wigeon]

do we know anything about the OS running on steam frame

[balmy tapir]

thats a tad different from an xbox one and is made for a pc?!

[empty quartz]

Probably a modified version of steamos or android

[hardy horizon]

I do like the idea of the legion go 2 style device, a tablet with attachable controllers that runs windows. But to be fair it needs to actually be a bit bigger... So you can have better battery life and ideally a better SOC.

Many users are reporting that the GPU cannot keep up even in the top trim model with the screen resolution. And even when the crank games down to 720p they're saying they can get a Max of 2 hours battery life which is terrible 💀

[hexed tapir]

From what I saw it will be a PC with proprietary shit

[jaunty apex]

SteamOS 3 yea

It'll probably use Waydroid

[balmy tapir]

😭

[hardy horizon]

Not that much more expensive than current gen, and these new handholds show people will pay.

[empty quartz]

I wanna buy the og steam controller

[balmy tapir]

insane take tbh. $900 US for a console is wild

[empty quartz]

I need something better than an xbox controller for my “media center”

[hardy horizon]

Butt .. to be fair it was also a full azz PS2

[hardy horizon]

Ps3 was $1k

[rigid fjord]

go for it then

[balmy tapir]

honestly love the xbox controller layout. i am intrigued by the new steam controller

[hardy horizon]

No it isn't sadly. Especially since games are going to $99 each

[balmy tapir]

nah its evil

[rigid fjord]

only the outside, there's other cases like this which is closer to an xbox case, still though

[empty quartz]

The “media center” in question (2012 mac mini 2.3ghz qc i7 16gb)

[hardy horizon]

I wonder if the next Xbox will have a full windows mode to justify the price. But that also means PC users will lose free online play 🫤 and have to actually buy Xbox live 😭

[empty quartz]

Never

Xbox actually cares about their users

[ocean axle]

For DRM reasons, ^

[hardy horizon]

I know they have tried to force PC to pay multiple times .. it has never held

[bronze summit]

Back in 2015 the PC Goobers who was in the "Console vs PC" War always yapped the same thing "If the thing costs near 1000$ just get a PC lol"

[ocean axle]

That was $1000 of 2015 dollars

[hardy horizon]

... No they don't .. the Ally Xbox was advertised to people as if it could play your existing Xbox only library and it cannot! Also if you already own the Xbox version you still have to repurchase the PC version 💀💀💀 dumb AF

[ocean axle]

Those aren't the same as today dollars

[hardy horizon]

Tons of open box from this. People with 2800 Xbox games finding out they have to pay tens of thousands of dollars to play it on their Ally 💀💀

[hardy horizon]

Yep

[ebon marlin]

wtf is this caricature art

[bronze summit]

Artificial Intelligence

[hardy horizon]

Buttt now GPU are priced for AI only and $$$. So console can raise price a lot and be under PC

Especially if they can do 4k 120.

[ocean axle]

They can't do 4k120

[formal sonnet]

Oof. The Machine Learning algorithms did not, in fact, drop it like it's hot.

[hardy horizon]

Next gen

[ocean axle]

Gen9 can't, and gen10 probably wont either

[bronze summit]

They could just pay a random homeless guy from LA who draws shit like this 10k and they could get a better thing than whatever this is

[ebon marlin]

wtf is this? open box screen protector oh my god bruh

[ocean axle]

and before you go shitting on me for saying that, I literally have a desk of devkits, I'm quite familiar with the hardware

[bronze summit]

I'm doing something. Stupid next year

I am buying a Redmagic Astra

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right-ishowspeed-yeah-ishowspeed-right-ishowspeed-stream-gif-2870397197282141259

[hardy horizon]

The Xbox 1080 (current gen) can't, but I bet the Xbox 1440 can do it! Especially since they want to make money on hardware again. Gonna have to bring some performance to justify $1,500 price tag.

[ocean axle]

Anaconda has a vram issue

[balmy tapir]

nope! you obviously know nothing!!! (joking)

[ocean axle]

Lockhart is a joke

[bronze summit]

It will be my main mobile editing rig

[hardy horizon]

Oh sorry I'm being intentionally obtuse. We know the prices are going to go up because the game prices are going to go up so they're going to claim it's a "premium gaming experience"...

Maybe they will have one at $499 that does 1080p 30fps for "budget minded" gamers.

[ocean axle]

Trinity is ok, but still pretty RAM limited, and I have a feeling they aren't going to change that.

[hardy horizon]

I presume these are the code names for xbox Gen 2 3 and 4? AKA 360 720 1080

[bronze summit]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right-ishowspeed-yeah-ishowspeed-right-ishowspeed-stream-gif-2870397197282141259

[ocean axle]

anaconda is series x
Lockhart is series s
Trinity is PS5 pro

[hardy horizon]

$49/ month EZ 💪

You're worth it

[ocean axle]

I also have a feeling that studios are going to push RT as a default feature with gen10, which is going to kneecap frame rates

[hardy horizon]

Just borrow those missing cuda cores from Nvidia EZ.

[ocean axle]

So, some games will hit 4k120, but that's not going to be a standard thing

I'm actually not even sure what our gen9 perf targets are, I know gen8 it's whatever res and 30fps

I think gen9 is generally 60fps, but idk what res that's at

[hardy horizon]

Orrr they will pull an Amazon! Remember when you could get a fire tablet for cheaper if you let it have ads and then one that was more expensive if you didn't have ads? (Not that it mattered because they pushed the update that gave mine ads to know about the ad-free version... )

You can buy the cheaper model but it's going to use your energy at your house for AI, or you can buy more expensive model and they won't use the energy in your house for AI. And you're required to have a credit card on file in case you do not meet the minimum workload for the month that they can charge. If your payment doesn't go through the unit is immediately locked.

[empty quartz]

That will be a horrendous editing machine

[hardy horizon]

Maybe they will also offer one as a cloud subscription, so many people like to pay monthly for all of their things. Like geforce now, but Xbox. 🤔 You pay $150 for the hardware (basically key). Then monthly $59.99. includes game pass and live.

[empty quartz]

@bronze summit if you need a tablet actually powerful for editing on the go, get an ipad pro or ipad air

[hardy horizon]

Yet another subscription service aka "infinite money glitch"

[bronze summit]

https://tenor.com/view/if-you-laugh-you-go-to-hell-obamify-transition-aint-no-way-laugh-gif-3199806822996940312

[ocean axle]

I meant that's actually not a terrible option, if you have a stable internet connection

[hardy horizon]

The pro is WILD. So much power in a tablet!

[empty quartz]

There is literally no other tablet (that doesnt run windows) that even comes close to the performance of the pro’s and air’s

[hardy horizon]

$720 a year for your "Xbox"

[empty quartz]

Even the air, since it has an m3

[ocean axle]

If you consider the "lifetime" cost of the console, including all games and live and the hardware, a streaming key is probably fine

[bronze summit]

Well I am using Luma Fusion

[empty quartz]

Again, ipad pro or air

They will be miles faster

[hardy horizon]

Actually probably be $89.99 a month since games are gonna be $99

[drowsy heart]

Can someone help me i made a post on bulid a pc and could use some suggestions

[hardy horizon]

So $1080 a year subscription to Xbox plus $150 hardware fee.

[ocean axle]

I doubt the streaming subscription would be that much

Also, previous gen hardware can do video decode just fine

[hardy horizon]

At $3200 can you not fit a modern GPU into that budget or do you need the 38080 TI for a reason?

[ocean axle]

So, use your old series s as a streaming box, and just pay the monthly subscription for streaming

I don't like it, but people will do it

[empty quartz]

They allow you to use external storage

[drowsy heart]

That not a buget that is an ai quess of what it would cost

[azure topaz]

bro what

[ebon marlin]

ur comparing a ipad mini equivalent device to an ipad pro

[hardy horizon]

It will, right now ultimate is $30 a month, if their hardware base model is 700, that almost perfectly aligns at $50 a month extra. Consider that games are going up by 30% as well. I could see it.

[empty quartz]

Whats so funny?

[tulip sparrow]

Steam OS and I am betting waydroid onboard to handle the android side of things

[empty quartz]

That ipad is faster

[hardy horizon]

Yeah, but then you aren't buying anything from Microsoft and they can't upsell you.

[ocean axle]

The hardware cost doesn't need to be directly linked to the streaming subscription cost

[hardy horizon]

That hardware key is an excellent GateKeeper.

[hardy horizon]

Yes but renting is always more expensive than buying on a yearly basis

[ocean axle]

But it keeps you using MS services

[hardy horizon]

I'm confused. So you're going to go out and buy a 3080 TI? Why not something more modern?

[empty quartz]

@bronze summit show a similarly priced device thats as powerful as an m3 ipad air for less

[bronze summit]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right-ishowspeed-yeah-ishowspeed-right-ishowspeed-stream-gif-2870397197282141259

[empty quartz]

Stfu with ishowspeed

[azure topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/blob-jelly-memes-stare-at-it-bob's-gif-8902687973428544154

[bronze summit]

Now why would you say a deragatory word

[empty quartz]

It was a typo

[drowsy heart]

Thats meant to be 4080 ti

[bronze summit]

https://tenor.com/view/dissaproving-hank-hill-gif-14806126061245867933

[azure topaz]

and a 5950x

[hardy horizon]

Now compare that to MacBook Pro pricing. You'll see that iPad tends to be the better deal. performance is not linear but pretty close unless you're doing something crazy in which case you need the extra encode decode that a pro max gives

[bronze summit]

Bypassing and saying bad war shipped words? Ace Attorney

[azure topaz]

yep alright im gonna go end myself

[empty quartz]

Mood

[drowsy heart]

Yes

[hardy horizon]

Are you buying it used in which case why is the total cost so high?

[azure topaz]

read up on modern pcs instead of using ai to make a list for you

ai only has data to X point of time, for computers that is not good enough

[hardy horizon]

3200 is A LOT

Assuming USD

[drowsy heart]

No new

[hardy horizon]

September 2024 for paid GPT 5 users.

[azure topaz]

3200$ is enough to get you a literal top end computer and that is the worst fucking disgrace of a computer ive seen

ive built 700$ computers that are faster

[bronze summit]

7800X3D GT 1030 for only 1999$ USD 🔥

[hardy horizon]

How much is the 4080 Tie you are looking at

[azure topaz]

so do with that what you wish

[drowsy heart]

I cant remember last time i looked

[craggy cove]

this vs open box batteries

[drowsy heart]

That price is what ai thoght it would cost

[hardy horizon]

How about this,

[bronze summit]

Some Prebuilts make me laugh sometimes

[hardy horizon]

Let's start from the beginning.

Give me your top three goals that you need this machine to do.

[bronze summit]

Because some prebuilt people charge a lot for bad parts

[fluid matrix]

I finally found cheap ddr4

[hardy horizon]

#tech-chat-1 message

[azure topaz]

did you use grok for this

[empty quartz]

I got 8x32gb ddr4 for $30 cad each

[craggy cove]

#sheinhaul

[bronze summit]

For the amount of overpay you have put into one you could've spent it on some other necessities

[fluid matrix]

I mean if you buy in bulk ik will be cheap

[drowsy heart]

Run cod bf6 and big single player games

[empty quartz]

No

I could’ve bought 1 and it would’ve still been the same price

[hardy horizon]

Okay, now do you already have a monitor? If so are you planning to replace it?

[fluid matrix]

Is it still as cheap?

[empty quartz]

What does “the same price” mean

[azure topaz]

where do you live and want cheap ddr4

its not hard to find 7 year old pc parts for cheap

[bronze summit]

Anyways I'll consider buying an iPad

[azure topaz]

i pinky swear

[bronze summit]

I want to try the Magic Pencil anyways

[fluid matrix]

if its still 30 cad each

[hardy horizon]

If you need the portability and you can utilize the performance I have 100% would tell somebody to. I mean two terabytes for two grand where else can you get that in apple??

[fluid matrix]

I live in NL

[drowsy heart]

I hav3 a old small tv yes iam upgradeing to a acer nitro monitor 34 inch ultrawide

[hardy horizon]

What resolution is that and what hz

[empty quartz]

Its acer, 7680x720 30hz /j

[bronze summit]

Me in 5 years drawing doodles on my iPad when they release the iPhone XX that costs 1199 and has 3 Terabytes of Future Memory

[hardy horizon]

I was about to throw my phone 💀💀

[azure topaz]

https://www.ebay.nl/itm/364635392484?

not as cheap as id like but

[hardy horizon]

Cloud ram 😜

[bronze summit]

You can finally buy more ram online

[drowsy heart]

1440p and 120hz i think

[fluid matrix]

15 eur shipping tho

[empty quartz]

I think in like 5 years im gonna upgrade my macbook

[azure topaz]

make an offer for 50 euro i bet he'll take it

but thats still only 85 euro that is probably better than new, no?

[golden sage]

Hey guys, im on a RTX 5080 with a msi x870 tomahawk wifi motherboard (9800x3D)

i intend to use a NVMe SSD for my system. one for OS and one for storage/games/apps etc.

can someone give some advice on how do i go about this? all the "PCIE gen 3/4/5" ssd stuff is quite confusing ontop of people telling me to becareful or ill split my RTX 5080's X16 lanes into x8 lanes

all help is appreciated, thank you in advance

[hardy horizon]

Guys being in mobile the last 2 generations. Is this 5070TI or 5080 needs? #tech-chat-1 message

[azure topaz]

5070ti

[hardy horizon]

And this is your first gaming PC? How pretty do you want the games on the 34 inch ultra wide?

[fluid matrix]

I found some ram for like 73 new 32gb from NETAC but they write ''inter'' instead of ''intel'' soooo I dont know if I should trust that

[azure topaz]

whats it rated for?

[fluid matrix]

DDR4 3200MHz C16 XMP 2.0

[hardy horizon]

Hold on it's an ultra wide ... What the listed resolution 1440 x what?

[drowsy heart]

Well i have bad vision so i need good visuals to see

[azure topaz]

meh prolly fine then

[fluid matrix]

alright

[azure topaz]

https://www.marktplaats.nl/v/computers-en-software/ram-geheugen/m2332008267-g-skill-ripjaws-v-ddr4-32gb-4x8gb-ram?correlationId=124c6cc5-4640-4683-914e-1943d4fb9219

https://www.marktplaats.nl/v/computers-en-software/ram-geheugen/m2332961483-g-skill-ripjaws-v-32gb-ram-ddr4-3200mhz-cl16?correlationId=124c6cc5-4640-4683-914e-1943d4fb9219

[hardy horizon]

What's the model number of the display

[azure topaz]

found a better used site, go with one of these

idk if its like a local site or allows shipping tho

i cant read these scribbles

[fervent schooner]

So the 2080ti is in pc let's hope it dobt explode

[fluid matrix]

Yeah its a know site but the buyers protection is VERY bad but I mean should be fine

[ocean axle]

embeds, plz <link>

[azure topaz]

its ram it doesnt really die, i'd trust it

[hardy horizon]

Also be real, are you ACTUALLY gonna buy this. Or do you just want an idea what it's gonna take to do what u want.

[azure topaz]

also p good

[drowsy heart]

No iam buying a pc

[hardy horizon]

Chat, I feel like that's 4k no?

[rigid fjord]

you'd want a 500gb nvme drive, either gen 3 or gen 4 that's known for using tlc nand as your os drive then us a 2tb or higher capacity tlc nand drive for the secondary drive, anyone who tells you to get a gen5 drive is just being an absolute arsehole to you and has no idea at all

[wheat torrent]

?

[hardy horizon]

Sorry I'm on my phone while my PC charged a bit

[ocean axle]

3440x1440 is 1440p ultrawide

[drowsy heart]

I sent a pic of specs its on best buy

[fervent schooner]

2080 ti 550w psu what can go wrong

[azure topaz]

nothing bro we already told you

gamers nexus did that fuckin, 6 years ago

[fervent schooner]

Google scaring me

[azure topaz]

google is stupid use your brain

[ebon marlin]

bro you've been here for 3+ days talking about this

[hardy horizon]

🤦damn I'm rusty, I forgot we categorize them by vertical lines not horizontal 💀

[fervent schooner]

Ik 😟

[azure topaz]

gpu draws 250w at most, cpu draws probably 100w at most, rest of system at most another 100w

[ocean axle]

Is it a good 550w or an explosion 550w?

[rigid fjord]

he has none, which is why he's using google instead

[ocean axle]

Former, you are fine, latter, you aren't safe at any wattage

[hardy horizon]

And you want to max the monitor out in AAA games?

[azure topaz]

we're pushing it but we're fine and we havent even considered OCP

[wheat torrent]

5k2k

[drowsy heart]

How long since your last bulid

[azure topaz]

@fervent schooner

[drowsy heart]

Yes

[hardy horizon]

Threadripper 1080ti

[wheat torrent]

Did you check if this panel has bad ghosting/smearing

[drowsy heart]

Dang

[azure topaz]

none of these even hit 450w

[drowsy heart]

I dont need 4k i cant see a difference

[fervent schooner]

Ok then im good

[azure topaz]

and this is at the wall

[wheat torrent]

Quinny

[ebon marlin]

Difference is noticeable

[azure topaz]

oml the psu probably drawing like 400w at most

[hardy horizon]

You gonna turn on ray tracing??

[rigid fjord]

anything with 1440 on the end is 1440p resolution, for 4k res, you'd want it to show as 2160 on the end at least

[wheat torrent]

5k2k

[azure topaz]

hes got a 2k budget just do something with a 5070ti and a 9700x or a 9800x3d and be done

[drowsy heart]

Iam have bad vision so not to me

[drowsy heart]

Sould i?

[hardy horizon]

He said $3200 budget

[azure topaz]

2k-3.2k

[wheat torrent]

Being monitor closer

[ebon marlin]

I have bad vision too but the difference is very much so noticeable

[azure topaz]

is what the ai said to him

[rigid fjord]

4k res examples @hardy horizon

[hardy horizon]

It's up to you bud!

[wheat torrent]

@drowsy heart Did you check if your monitor has bad smearing or ghosting

[azure topaz]

5080 is not that much faster than a 5070ti and its a lot more expensive

5070ti is the value pick

[wheat torrent]

Just get 4090

[azure topaz]

9800x3d isnt value but not buying a 5080= extra spending money

[drowsy heart]

I dont have the thing y3t

[wheat torrent]

Well you should check before you buy it

[azure topaz]

therefore this is probably going to be the best not overkill machine for him

[drowsy heart]

I probably will depending on the game

[rigid fjord]

1440p res, and do not confuse it as being 2k res, it's not and never will be 2k @hardy horizon

[drowsy heart]

How do i check

[hardy horizon]

But if you wanna RT and NEVER dip below 1440p 👀 ... Dare I say 90 😅. (Not really gonna recommend that on a 1st build with someone who doesn't actually know what they want/need)

[azure topaz]

a 5070ti will do that

[wheat torrent]

Search for reviews and shit idk what monitor you talking about I just saw its VA

[drowsy heart]

Alright

[wheat torrent]

I love VA, but I would hate if it had smearing

[azure topaz]

if a 5070ti cant, a 5080 wont be able to either

its not that much faster, thats kinda the point, 5070ti or 5090 and the money isnt there for it

simply

[drowsy heart]

I will waitch vids about ir and do more research worst case scenario i end up geting an lg utra gear

[hardy horizon]

Not on ultra it won't. 120 1% lows? What if dude want to play flight sim 😜

[azure topaz]

dude doesnt know what hes talking about and cannot get 120 fps 1% lows in every title

its simply impossible, some games are just bad

[wheat torrent]

[hardy horizon]

Huh? 1440 is 2k as in 2 1080p 's no? And 4k is 4 1080p's

[azure topaz]

again the overarching point here is that the jump from 5070ti to 5080 isnt worth it for the money

[wheat torrent]

Didn't linus do a video on a MSRP PC for 900$ and it had a 5070 ti in it

[odd marsh]

no

[rigid fjord]

these are all 2k res, yes i know 1920 x 1080 is included in this @hardy horizon

[wheat torrent]

Feel free to screenshot made it a few days ago

[drowsy heart]

Yeah but for one screw rebuilt ive seen some many problems with prebulids(mainly alienware)

[rigid fjord]

no, 1440p is qhd

[hardy horizon]

What else do you need the PC to do?

[rigid fjord]

qhd = 2x 720p essentially

[swift thorn]

badum tss

[opal dock]

Oh hell yeah

[azure topaz]

4x

[drowsy heart]

Well pool studios as i get older

[azure topaz]

2560 = 2x1280

1440= 2x 720p

[tulip sparrow]

qhd=4x720p

[hardy horizon]

What is that?

[azure topaz]

hd= 720p
therefore qhd=4x 720p

[tulip sparrow]

Hence the Q standing for QUAD HD

[azure topaz]

you double the pixels twice, therefore its 4x da pixel

[ocean axle]

Quad HD is in fact 4 HD screens in one

[drowsy heart]

3d design software for pools

[wheat torrent]

77% increase over 1080p its that simple

[azure topaz]

work checked

[azure topaz]

yes

[wheat torrent]

Not quite double

A decent improvement

1440p to 4k is double and then some

[tulip sparrow]

Guess you could count 4k(UHS) as QFHD

Quad full high definition

[azure topaz]

yeah

[hardy horizon]

Okay 3060 16GB ram, so we will be fine

[azure topaz]

or QuadFHD to be faster and somewht spcific ig

[wheat torrent]

2k budget with a 3060?

[drowsy heart]

Needs a 4070 minimum

[hardy horizon]

-You want to play COD BF6 and other single player games
-You are upgrading to a Acer ultrawide
-1440p ultra wide
-120 FPS Ultra with ray tracing goal

• 32 GB ram

[tulip sparrow]

I want WQHD to come back as a stanard monitor resolution

[azure topaz]

is that the tall one

[wheat torrent]

I want 4:3 monitors

[hardy horizon]

No the software he was talking about requires 3060 and 16GB ram

[azure topaz]

like WUXGA or what

[drowsy heart]

4070 you got the wrong one

[drowsy heart]

To run well

[azure topaz]

5070ti, 9700x, chepest 64 or 48gb ram kit

this is not that deep please just make the list not 1 million question sim

[hardy horizon]

It says 3060 on their website, regardless you are getting a better GPU than 4070

[wheat torrent]

Just get a 5070 ti
Your other option is 4090 or 9070 xt

[tulip sparrow]

wqhd is the same as qhd lol aka both 1440p

[azure topaz]

oh widescreen

[tulip sparrow]

2k is 2048x0180p

[wheat torrent]

I would love triple 40" 4:3 monitors

[drowsy heart]

Well thanks for the help i can use this a lot thanks

[mint umbra]

Steam machine looks worse than ps5 specs

[drowsy heart]

That overkill unless you stream or use discord too much

[wheat torrent]

nah

[hardy horizon]

Is this all you need?
#tech-chat-1 message

[wheat torrent]

my current setup, 32"

[azure topaz]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HcJcJn

i speed ran that

[drowsy heart]

Yeah that sums it up just have to update my list and start shoping

[azure topaz]

less than 2 minutes

[tulip sparrow]

WQXGA is the resolution I want to come back

[drowsy heart]

Nice

[tulip sparrow]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/Vector_Video_Standards8.svg

[wheat torrent]

ps5 3.5ghz
steam machine 4.8ghz

but other than that the gpu and ram on ps5 seems better

[formal sonnet]

more GHz != more performance. (it's way more nuanced than that.)

[mint umbra]

GPU only 8 vram

[azure topaz]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7ptzqH
ball harder with 4tb storage*

[mint umbra]

In 2025

[wheat torrent]

we just dont know much about their CPU yet

they just say "custom amd cpu"

well technically ps5 is zen 2
steam machine is zen 4

[mint umbra]

What are gonna do with 8gb of vram

No aaa games

[drowsy heart]

Absolutely i have already ran out of space on xbox 1tb and useing 3d software space is critical

[azure topaz]

now this is the tall one

well the others had 2tb space thats still double

regardless buy one fo those, put it together, be happy

[tulip sparrow]

The tall one is actually 1280x1024 @azure topaz aka 5:4 LOL

[wheat torrent]

the steam frame looks more interesting

[azure topaz]

WQXGA is 16:10

aka taller than 16:9 aka the tall one

5:4 isnt wide enough for me to be appealing

2560x1600 is nice tho

[tulip sparrow]

I had a 24" 1920x1200@60hz IPS monitor before I got this 1440p@165hz freesync one

[azure topaz]

mmmm

[tulip sparrow]

I would be more then happy to have gone with a 2560x1600@120(144hz) 27" monitor but those don't exist

Hence being stuck with 1440p

Samsung use to have a 5120x1600p@120hz monitor

[azure topaz]

yeah unfortunately the good resolution is just barely out of reach

[azure topaz]

jeesus

[tulip sparrow]

BUT they no longer make that

[azure topaz]

believeable

[wheat torrent]

why no real 4k ultrawide

5120 x 2160 | 7680 x 2160

expensive is probably the answer, classic

[tulip sparrow]

AKA 49" 32:10 monitor

[wheat torrent]

32:10?

[tulip sparrow]

I was tlaking to @azure topaz lol

[wheat torrent]

sorry

[azure topaz]

too damn big

[tulip sparrow]

Basically 2 27" 16:10 1600p monitors stuck together aka no seam in the middle and even with a KVM switch and PBP onboard

[abstract wigeon]

what do we think for steam frame pricing? im reckoning 950 clams

[azure topaz]

jesus

thats a lot of clams victor

its a phone cpu what makes it priced that way

oh wait my bad im thinking of the box

[opal dock]

First attempt at building a PC and it POST'D just fine. I'm surprised

[azure topaz]

950 clams seems reasonable for the headset but theyre LCd screens so shouldnt it be cheaper

i also am not completely sure of headset pricing anymore

[tulip sparrow]

they have a smaller 1200p monitor that is 32:10 in a 43" version https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/curved/43-cj890-super-ultra-wide-curved-monitor-lc43j890dknxza/

[azure topaz]

it looks good but damn 800$ id rather blow my head off

[tulip sparrow]

Pretty sure its 3840x1200

[drowsy heart]

I think i started a war about monitors

[tulip sparrow]

Trying to find info on the CJ89 49" 32:10 5120x1600p 120hz monitor is impossible nowadays apparently

[dreamy aspen]

congrats!

[hardy horizon]

guys why couldnt you use this as your primary pc / laptop replacement? https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/handheld/legion-go-gen-2/len106g0004?org

[azure topaz]

because its a hand held and 6x slower

[hardy horizon]

its faster than lunar lake, but less efficient

[azure topaz]

probably more like 16x

[hardy horizon]

well ya vs a desktop

[azure topaz]

well then theres yo answer

[hardy horizon]

was more thinking on the go, pair with a BT keyboard

[azure topaz]

my laptop does not need to play any game or really do anything 3D, i need more like a thin and lite with a screen i can see

[hardy horizon]

i could see the bandwith of use cases with the go 2. you could use it for everything

dock it at the house, use it on teh go as a pc/tablet, use it to watch medis

8.8 is a little small, but still bigger than a phone

[azure topaz]

the screen is too small to wnat to do anything serious on

i would not want to video edit or read for hours on it

[hardy horizon]

dock it

[azure topaz]

yeah but what if im not home thats kinda my point

i work from "home" on my surface

[hardy horizon]

well then you can use the 8.8, or i guess you could get one of those cool portable displays. total setup should be under teh typical 5lbs laptops

[azure topaz]

but much more uncomfortable to use or hold

[hardy horizon]

than a laptop?

[azure topaz]

yes

[hardy horizon]

the extra screen or teh tablet?

[azure topaz]

instead of relying on 1 devices battery im relying on my portable monitor, my bt keyboard and mouse, and my computer

powered by the pc the external monitor means less battery life

[hardy horizon]

true but you also just doubled your WH since those portable displays can share power

[azure topaz]

on an already small battery thats not great

[hardy horizon]

no the external monitors have their own batter

[azure topaz]

not all and its just more expensive than a laptop

as a gaming focused device i see its point but actually like using it in not a dock on the go is just going to be an interesting experince

cables erry where gotta replug it in gotta make sure your batteries on everything is charged etc

[distant frigate]

https://www.reddit.com/r/speedtest/s/aAXF78drnY

Decent speeds. DOCSIS 3.1 probably

Very likely have a 85 MHz return path. Which is mid-split

[hardy horizon]

u mean you wouldnt use windows cast feature :p

[azure topaz]

no because a wireless display increases power draw further and latency

[hardy horizon]

i was joking

[azure topaz]

blehh

https://tenor.com/view/bleh-bleh-cat-spinning-cat-bleeeh-gif-7332391676869313633

[hardy horizon]

grab a 120w phone charger, run it into the Legion, cable to display. everything charges 🤘

[ebon marlin]

Anyone know if there's been any new cases similar to the NV5

Or something like it but cheaper

Wanna get a new case but don't feel like splurging over a 100 bucks to a new case

[hardy horizon]

i just think of cool ways to use hardware.

[clear canyon]

you have a call coming in

https://tenor.com/view/fall-guys-funny-freaky-beans-calling-gif-11279192359107697418

[ebon marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/ohnepixel-ohne-what-vas-wtf-gif-14750849636315903969

[plush wren]

https://tenor.com/view/ohnepixel-ohne-my-drilla-mafez-gif-3424289957786701431

[ebon marlin]

Ooo wtf Lian Li made an exact copy of the NV5 lmao

Lian Li V100

Surprisingly affordable aswell

Especially for a Lian Li product

[steel umbra]

sp850

never forget the sp850

[ebon marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/ohnepixel-ohne-what-vas-wtf-gif-14750849636315903969

[opal dock]

Thank you! Now I just gotta go through the process of tuning the components a little bit. No insane overclocking but tryna squeeze a bit more performance out of the stuff while staying stable

Also my RGB controller got delayed in the mail so my intake and exhaust fans aren't lit up yet

[wheat torrent]

Schiese gold gold gold

[hardy horizon]

Any externals that don't get hot and down clock on 100GB writes?

[livid mason]

Bios repair wish me luck

[clever laurel]

rx 9070 xt or 5070 ti, have a budget of like 1000 aud

[livid mason]

Craps been bricked since January and I think it's BIOS

If this doesn't work I'm selling my Steam Deck for parts

[clever laurel]

fair

[wheat torrent]

Just use a normal sata ssd/nvme

[wheat torrent]

Whatever is cheaper I guess

[clever laurel]

9070 is cheaper by 550 bucks

[wheat torrent]

No I mean between the 2

[sinful lintel]

Okay so does anyone have any idea what "6x more powerful than a SteamDeck" actually looks like?

Because I dont play new games which means I dont use FSR and 4k 60 WITH FSR doesnt mean much to me.

[wheat torrent]

No benchmarks

[hardy horizon]

For external? Like build your own?

[wheat torrent]

Steam Deck nearly 4 years old and it had 1280x800 p resolution

[eager pulsar]

Yo im getting a lian li o11 vision compact, I could either do 6 intake fans 2 exhaust and have the top be glass, or replace the glass with mesh and add 3 exhaust fans. Would the 6-2 config be bad?

[wheat torrent]

I just connect them with USB

[hardy horizon]

Hmm that could work, what cable do you like?

[hardy horizon]

I've done these but it's SOOO big, and the do eventually overheat the drive even with the active cooling

[hidden nymph]

im gonna buy me a gabecube

[rigid fjord]

whichever is the cheapest of the 2

[rigid fjord]

with the vision it would be fine, if you want it to look aesthetically good while doing so, make sure the side and bottom fans are reverse fans

[clear pebble]

So long story short, I am having pc issues, But rn I tried stress testing cpu by itself, it was fine. Then used Amd adrenaline to test gpu, was fine. Did both at the same time, pc crashes, could it be cpu or gpu?

[rigid fjord]

you don't use adrenalin to stress test with, use occt instead

[clear pebble]

ah yes, occt heard of that. What test should I use, I just downloaded that

[rigid fjord]

all of them if you must

[ebon marlin]

Damn Lian Li V100 looks like such a good deal over the NV5

[rigid fjord]

though linpack xtreme on there will give quite a bit of a stress test

[clear pebble]

wont that just freeze my pc?

[rigid fjord]

they can be ran one after the other

[random gyro]

"acer"

[clear pebble]

how would I do that? Or how can I test gpu and cpu bc I stream and use vr and thats what causes my pc to crash

[rigid fjord]

it has individual tests for those built in

which you can run after each other

it's a whole suite in itself

[clear pebble]

hows this?

[hardy horizon]

why does everyone adore this laptop?

[clear pebble]

all set to above normal bc I do streaming and vr playing

[random gyro]

cuz beautiful

also (LAPTOP) 5080 and ryzen 9 for that price is amazing

[clear pebble]

ah welp, it crashed, must be something to do with gpu, idk.

[wooden pasture]

https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/list @rigid fjord i need a bit of help so her budge is 1500 1600 and she is complaning about the price being 1680ish i tried to change the stuff thats irrelevant but she keeps saying the fans and case cant change do you know what i could change without impacting mutch the performance also is the 750w psu enough cause i told her to get 850 just in case becuase of all the lights

[clear pebble]

did a full min and 29 sec before it crashed

[rigid fjord]

they don't

[ebon marlin]

https://stupidpenisx.com/notnullptr/status/1988683826281975928?s=19

nullptr 🐱🍩 (@notnullptr)

valve's upcoming releases section on steam had 1 game yesterday, but now it shows 2, except the new one is hidden. could it be?

vxTwitter / fixvx · Nov 12, 2025, 7:02 PM

[lime grail]

Should I overclock my Ryzen 5 2600 or just stick to base clock. im planning on getting it to atleast 3.6ghz

[rigid fjord]

link fail there

[wooden pasture]

sorry

[wooden pasture]

https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/list/c2JT6Q

[rigid fjord]

it should automatically boost to like 4ghz

[clear pebble]

what could be the cause of a failing gpu if its causing crashes, this is still pretty new

[hardy horizon]

it is always recomended as one of teh best well this version is

[random gyro]

i know you can get a better deal with pcs but a desktop 5080 is like, 1000 usd msrp

let alone the rest of the computer

[silk halo]

Thoughts on my pc:

[random gyro]

tasty

[wooden pasture]

lian li infinity fans ?

[silk halo]

Nah asiahorse on Amazon

[clear pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-90s-kid-cool-good-gif-3575245

[silk halo]

Do you guys know if there would be anyway to change the color of my fans in one software. I have an argb/ fan hub. With a co troller

[hardy horizon]

you can dual boot these right?

[stark kiln]

Lowkey people mad with 40mbps download speed are kinda odd, id kill for 40mbps wifi

[rigid fjord]

quite literally changing the fans to something like thermalright ones would drop that quite a fair bit, especially as they have reverse fans which are great for bottom/side mounting, and possibly changing the cooler

[random gyro]

yeah, intel macs can be dual booted, not sure about the newer (intel) ones though

[wooden pasture]

the fans cant change cause argb and stuff unfortunatly

[rigid fjord]

they could change as it will still be argb

[wooden pasture]

hoo okay nice but regarding the build itself

[rigid fjord]

it would also mean not needing icue for controlling the fans

[wooden pasture]

icue? ha the app?

[rigid fjord]

the app for controlling argb/rgb on corsair fans

[wooden pasture]

thermalight hm lets check

like this ones https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/product/7KLdnQ/thermalright-tl-m12-s-476-cfm-120-mm-fan-tl-m12-s ?

[rigid fjord]

yes but no

[wooden pasture]

hm

[rigid fjord]

these https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/product/kMqrxr

[wooden pasture]

https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/product/WhRwrH/thermalright-tl-c12cw-s-6617-cfm-120-mm-fan-tl-c12cw-s

okok this is the same basically there are no 3 fans kits on stores available to me basically

[craggy cove]

@ebon marlin go buy this 14700k with a h610

and a skinny case

also that is quite certainly not 4x8

[rigid fjord]

3/5 fan kits you could order from the likes of amazon germany @wooden pasture

[wooden pasture]

ho okay

[rigid fjord]

€24 for 5 fans

[craggy cove]

theyre so cheap on amazon for some reason

[wooden pasture]

https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/list/VkgvpK i think i got it but do you know like the ram to change too ? or smtg idk something that could change regarding the setup in itself

[ebon marlin]

Ay caramba

[fresh citrus]

Potentially stupid question, I bought an internal SATA SSD before remembering I need mounting screws which are at my parents house. Will the SSD come with their own or will I just have to rawdog the SSD until I can go home and grab them

[ebon marlin]

Just recently someone here sold a 14900k for 250€

[wheat torrent]

Generic sata to USB

[ebon marlin]

Some ssd companies give you a screw but the screw is there to only hold it in place so if you're moving the pc around it won't de-attach

[rigid fjord]

the ram will be fine

[fresh citrus]

Can I just like. Put it in until I get the full mounting screws?

[ebon marlin]

Also it's a sata ssd it doesn't need to be mounted anywhere

[rigid fjord]

yes

[ebon marlin]

You can just leave the sata ssd hanging at the back panel

[fresh citrus]

Ok

Thank u friends 🙏

[rigid fjord]

technically the sata ssd's in my system aren't screwed in

[fresh citrus]

Also how do I format an SSD

Will it give me the option when I turn the computer on

[rigid fjord]

the holders for it built into my case are pressure fit

[fresh citrus]

😭

[ebon marlin]

Although the ssd being mounted would only be important if you're putting it in a laptop

[wooden pasture]

this ram or is this one thats like WAY cheaper

[rigid fjord]

disk management -> create new simple partition

[craggy cove]

ill just skimp on the mobo by sorting by cheapest and then flipping it on facebook, why hasnt anyone thought of this?

[wheat torrent]

Electrical tape

[ebon marlin]

Personally I would've just left out the info about the mobo

[craggy cove]

i have a h610 with a broken pin but no cpu to test it with :(

[fresh citrus]

thank you so much 🙏

I am kinda tech stupid

[ebon marlin]

12400F and 12100F are going for literally dirt cheap here

[fresh citrus]

:p

[craggy cove]

i have a 13600kf actually but the owner said he didnt update the bios

[ebon marlin]

30-40€

[craggy cove]

the 12400f is extinct like where

[rigid fjord]

it will ask if you want gpt or mbr as the boot record beforehand, choose gpt

[craggy cove]

even a 12100f

[fresh citrus]

Gpt???

I just want more storage space

[craggy cove]

maybe im blind

[wheat torrent]

...

[fresh citrus]

I already have a boot drive

[rigid fjord]

nah, this ram is fine enough

[wheat torrent]

[fresh citrus]

I dont know anything Abt computer

That's why I'm here asking about computer

[rigid fjord]

yes, ssd's you always want gpt as the boot record, after that you create the new partition and then format it

[wooden pasture]

so exept the fans etc nothing can be changed ?

[wheat torrent]

Globally Unique Identifier Partition Table

GPT

I broke the bootloader on one of my server idk how to fix it

I fucked up OS installstion

[rigid fjord]

could look for a cheaper gpu if you wanted but you got to think about what she wants to do with the system

[wheat torrent]

And now it errors when computer turns on and I have to press any key and it boots normally

[fresh citrus]

OK I watched a video I understand what you mean

Thank u again

[wheat torrent]

No NVMe?

[hardy horizon]

so in therory if you can disable the dGPU this would have good battery life?
Intel Core Ultra 7 255H 1.5GHz Processor; NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050 6GB GDDR6

[wheat torrent]

What

[wheat torrent]

Extra fast storage seems useless for most average people

[hardy horizon]

im trying to fogure out H vs V series 2 ultra

[wheat torrent]

I got a 155h

[hardy horizon]

i know H is faster and less efficent, im trying to figure out how much, does it matter

[random gyro]

itll improve, a little bit

maybe by about 50 minutes

[wheat torrent]

Are you worried about battery life

[hardy horizon]

this V beats the MBP in video playback on battery 0.0

[wheat torrent]

For my laptop I just got a 80kWh powerbank

[hardy horizon]

this one isnt for me

[wheat torrent]

Double the life right there

[hardy horizon]

they like my v but want more oompf multithread

[random gyro]

if ya worried about battery life, gaming laptop aint for you ;-;

[hardy horizon]

well im thinking disable dgpu and you have good battery life

[rigid fjord]

an sn580 already selected in the build and it's at a good price for 2tb

[hardy horizon]

and can use dgpu if you want plugged ion, or on battery knowing reduced life

[random gyro]

for basic tasks like web browsing or whatever, itll do fine

[rigid fjord]

<@&750150305383186585> aurora spam reacting to multiple messages

[random gyro]

if you arent gaming a ton outside of home though, you can just get a second hand business laptop with a good CPU and a thunderbolt port, and connect an eGPU that way

[icy fossil]

can we submit video ideas to ltt somewhere

[daring crystal]

YOOOO I just got chatgpt 5.1

[random gyro]

what did they change?

[daring crystal]

More conversational

<@&750150305383186585>

[random gyro]

alright why are people clown reacting

[plush wren]

[rigid fjord]

lets people makes friends with their imagination

[hardy horizon]

spam

[latent gull]

They’re spamming multiple chats with it

[daring crystal]

I do that already ,

[rigid fjord]

single troll that's spamming

[daring crystal]

No shot

It's getting annoying

[random gyro]

can it fill the empty void in my heart? :0

[rigid fjord]

no

[daring crystal]

What's sad is it's a regular too

[random gyro]

oh..

[rigid fjord]

white name, but definitely not a regular, but definitely a troll

[latent gull]

Not a white name

[random gyro]

anyways, whats your favorite screensavers?

[random gyro]

aint afraid of you

[rigid fjord]

the fuck, they don't even talk here to be worth it

[daring crystal]

I feel like I have seen them before

[rigid fjord]

possibly not from this channel

[tender moth]

any laptop recommendations for studying and some gaming?

[rigid fjord]

depends on what you're studying

[tulip sparrow]

Yeah the Steam cube reminds me of the FireCube from Amazon LOL

[rigid fjord]

only downside, is no steampunk vibe from it

[wooden pasture]

@rigid fjord regarding the gpu you mentioned the heaviest game she will play its probanly baldurs gate and other stuff like that and claire obscure the important thing is literally the cpu for architecture programs would a 4000 smtg be as good enought and future proof too?

[plush notch]

Are these temps normal for having only discord and chrome twitch open

[rigid fjord]

future proofing doesn't exist, but also yes, 40 series definitely viable, like a 4070 instead or can always go amd instead

[rigid fjord]

use hwinfo instead for checking temps

[wooden pasture]

https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/product/bHFmP6/asus-dual-evo-oc-geforce-rtx-4060-ti-8-gb-video-card-dual-rtx4060ti-o8g-evo this one ?

[tender moth]

college classes

sciences

[rigid fjord]

fuck no, hard avoid

[wooden pasture]

kek i tought soo

[rigid fjord]

means nothing, should list what actual programs will be used

[gleaming rose]

computer hardware becomes obsolete the moment you buy it

there is always something better

[wooden pasture]

regarding the 4000 series do you know one thats like cheaper then 558?

[gleaming rose]

get a radeon

[rigid fjord]

what's the price showing for 4070's?

[wooden pasture]

https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/product/gYNYcf/msi-ventus-2x-black-oc-geforce-rtx-4060-ti-8-gb-video-card-rtx-4060-ti-ventus-2x-black-8g-oc this one perhaps?

[rigid fjord]

also a fuck no

[wooden pasture]

HAHAH

[rigid fjord]

i asked about 4070's and you're linking 8gb 4060 ti's instead

[wooden pasture]

the f the 4070 its more expansive

[rigid fjord]

4060/4060ti are hard avoids, even a 5060/5060ti would be an avoid

[wooden pasture]

the 60s are avoids basically

[rigid fjord]

considering a 9060xt is cheaper, even when at 16gb vram

[rigid fjord]

3060 was the only one not avoidable due to 12gb vram

[wooden pasture]

ho okay amd

[gleaming rose]

as I said 😭

[rigid fjord]

but at this point, still would choose a 9060xt 16gb

[wooden pasture]

https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/product/w2WmP6/sapphire-pulse-radeon-rx-9060-xt-16-gb-video-card-11350-03-20g @rigid fjord this one is cool? she will do 3d stuff for architecture buts thats on the cpu

[plush notch]

@rigid fjord

[gleaming rose]

CAD will run on anything

[rigid fjord]

looks absolutely fine

[rigid fjord]

definitely will do, the nitro version is better than this, but this will do

[wooden pasture]

ho nitro

https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/product/cny8TW/sapphire-nitro-radeon-rx-9060-xt-16-gb-video-card-11350-01-20g this one is it like alot more powerfull then the other one?

hope it fits a lian li compact box

[rigid fjord]

check on a sapphire pure model if available, that wiil match in the white theme

[wooden pasture]

011

[gleaming rose]

o11 is not compact

[rigid fjord]

well pcpp will let you know if it'll fit

[rigid fjord]

o11 vision is

which yuki should have said first

[wooden pasture]

https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/product/CXJBD3/sapphire-pure-radeon-rx-9060-xt-16-gb-video-card-11350-02-20g okay this one its worst then this one right ? https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/product/cny8TW/sapphire-nitro-radeon-rx-9060-xt-16-gb-video-card-11350-01-20g

[wooden pasture]

ho yes in the build i put in a 011 vision case

[rigid fjord]

the pure line is middle of the 2 afaik, pulse is lower end models, while nitro's are high end models of the same gpu gen

[wooden pasture]

iokay to defetetly nitro for her

[rigid fjord]

though the pure line there's a bit of white tax on it

[wooden pasture]

the gpu its fine doesnt matter for the white theme

tsym i willl put 9060 xt nitro

nitro plus

[random gyro]

i wanna get this piece of dump

[tender moth]

oh sorry. well im not sure exactly what programs will be used but many tabs and apps will need to be opened simultaneously

excel, microsoft word, google docs, graphical analysis softwares, etc.

[wheat torrent]

I should figure out how to fix this lowk

[vague glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/docker-pull-ubuntu-gif-26210830

[wheat torrent]

@rigid fjord Is this os issue or bios issue

[rigid fjord]

possibly os or both

[clear pebble]

This is going to sound really dumb, but it's a genuine question I have.

Should I use the daisy chain psu cable on the gpu or use two separate cables for it?

I've been seeing a lot of crashes on my pc and I have been lead to it being problems of the gpu and CPU under heavy load

[ebon marlin]

Wonder if that'll actually sell as people give that kinda ewaste away for free here

[clear pebble]

Mainly going conflicts but it is a new gpu

[rigid fjord]

i would suggest something like a legion 5, preferably with an amd cpu inside then @tender moth

[random gyro]

this is a third world country, any computer is better than no computer

[void eagle]

anyone else gonna buy the steam frame on launch

i want one so badly, plus its obligatory that i pay my ?????? donation to valve for supporting linux gaming

my quest 3 will go on ebay

[ebon marlin]

I have a strong feeling that a Meta Quest 3 512gb at 499$ will be much better lmao

[void eagle]

my quest 3 will go on ebay

[void eagle]

nah fuck meta

ill gladly pay 2-3x the price to get an open platform

[ebon marlin]

Huh

[void eagle]

i have a q3, and will be selling it for the frame

because i hate meta

absolute shithole of a company

[gray sierra]

Mochi wasup

[void eagle]

(meta, not valve)

whos mochi

[void eagle]

gurt

[random gyro]

hai

[winged sky]

Meta can burn in hell tbh

[void eagle]

100% agree

[random gyro]

thats me

i plague random discord servers by sharing my stupidity

[void eagle]

i have a quest 3 but i hate it so much that it collects dust 99% of the time

its genuinely a nightmare to use for PC streaming

[random gyro]

can microsoft join

i try to do my work on my laptop at school but WINDOWS UPDATE

[winged sky]

Oh yes. They can burn too.

[ebon marlin]

What I have a Quest 2 and it was so simple lmao

[random gyro]

yayy

[gray sierra]

Who plays golf with friends

[void eagle]

if you use windows, i hate havign to reboot to play vr games and have horrible latency as well

[winged sky]

https://tenor.com/view/linux-unix-apple-windows-android-gif-11555165207891882183

[void eagle]

steam frame will natively support linux vr it looks like, which is another pro

[ebon marlin]

Never had any issues like that whatsoever

[void eagle]

congrats, you probably dont have many wifi networks or devices on the network

[ebon marlin]

I got around 20

[random gyro]

sadly i cant fully switch to linux yet since a buncha apps that i use dont have linux support and i dont wanna bother with wine

[void eagle]

what apps?

i have a dualboot of w11 but its getting enshittified even quicker than i thought

[winged sky]

Thats fair. I need to learn to use wine better cause I know it works usually ive just been lazy

[ebon marlin]

I have a modem + dedicated router that acts as an access point

[void eagle]

i saw the copilot shit in my settings, luckily i nuked it a while ago from appearing but its concerning its coming back

[void eagle]

for the price of that shit, i may as well put it towards the steam frame which has its own 6GHZ network

[winged sky]

That, one drive, and recall

[void eagle]

and then I DONT have to fucking deal with Meta

[random gyro]

i got photoshop, fl studio, microsoft publisher, illustrator,

[ebon marlin]

Like 20-30€ wifi 6 router I found on the used msrket

[void eagle]

worth it honestly JUST for that fact

[ebon marlin]

Or you can just get a 20-30€ wifi 6 router

[random gyro]

i want to switch to linux but at the same time i just want everything to work

[void eagle]

1. Fuck adobe, switch to affinity or krita
2. FL Studio works in Wine
3. Why do you use this, genuine question?
4. Goto 1

[winged sky]

I mean ive been on linux for a few weeks now and im absolutely adoring it and feel at home already

Im never going back to microsoft

[left trellis]

Cop?

[random gyro]

eh, i cant unlearn photoshop, i have tried krita, but photoshop...