tech-chat-1

[formal geode]

I had two situations where I got a phone replacement and a monitor replacement cuz of minor issues

[south arrow]

Happens i was using asus tweaked and while running algos on linux gave +10% but the moment I opened windows it'd crash just sitting there after login

Finnicky mistress

[true stirrup]

Warship why😔

[balmy hull]

genuinely smart asf

[true stirrup]

Windows decided you have enough performance already

[wheat torrent]

then you wait 1 month for them to look into it

[formal geode]

Also make sure you claim it as late as possible, so they likely have no OEM parts

[frigid blade]

VM with iGPU

Yipee

[steel umbra]

also even if you exceed wattage of your psu, most modern psus will handle a 105% load, it’s not good but it will (aslong your transient spikes aren’t insane)

in the worst case a decent unit will shut

and you get a corrupted os

well, in the worst case your psu explodes, rug catches fire, the whole city burns down

[wheat torrent]

I got 1250W for a bit of extra

[formal geode]

Gigabyte GP-P750GM

[wheat torrent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLKjHobPys4

what were benq doing...

[waxen shell]

What is that site

[swift stream]

is redsec actually any good? or is it br microtransaction hell?

just asking bc warzone was garbage to me

[hasty galleon]

Hey guys, I need a quick opinion before I do something stupid 😅
I have a new motherboard (Gigabyte Aorus X870 Elite WiFi7) and I noticed that one pin in the LGA1700 socket looks slightly bent.
I tried seating the CPU (Intel chip) about 2–3 times because I wasn’t sure if I was aligning it correctly.
Now that one pin looks a bit off, but it’s not touching any others and everything else seems fine.

I’m scared to install the CPU because I don’t want to short anything or damage the board.

Do you think it’s safe to mount the CPU and test it, or should I take it to a repair shop to have them check the socket alignment?

[left dove]

looks fine to me

[drifting urchin]

i was going back and for showing meme pc cases, this one came in randomly

[left dove]

God it's so stupid

[lost lance]

is cities skylines 2 better than 1

[left dove]

yes and no

[left dove]

cs2 is graphically superior, yes, and there's more depth to the game through varous elements

cs1 however has a massive established modding community & repo

[lost lance]

say if i bought cities skylines 2 and compared it to one which one has more features and stuff to do

[left dove]

If you've got a good computer, go cs2

if you've got a bit of an aged build, go cs1 & mod

[lost lance]

i have one with like 10 of the expansion packs and so many mods im just wondering if its worth it to get cs2

i got a 5600x 32gb and a 2060 im not sure if it can run it

[left dove]

nah you should be good tbh

gpu might be a bit lacking, actually

[lost lance]

how much more is there to do in cs2

[left dove]

uhhhhhhhhh

that's hard to quantify

[lost lance]

hwo much more can i do i should put it like that

[waxen shell]

shit

[waxen shell]

Kolink Big Chungus mogs

[fickle ivy]

I like how my phone takes 4k 4/3 photos instead of 4k 16/9

[clear canyon]

Ew

[clear canyon]

Just change it

[lost lance]

slime rancher 1 or 2

[clear canyon]

League if legends

[jaunty apex]

Yes

(Start with 1)

[waxen shell]

Why 🙁

[clear canyon]

Bc its ugly and bulky

[lost lance]

already played 1

[waxen shell]

Is for the meme

[clear canyon]

Is junk 😔

[swift moss]

😭

"your majesty why is the gramophone malfunctioning"

[clear canyon]

Now that's a steal!

[swift moss]

free shipping yeah

[clear canyon]

I didnt say it was a steal for the buyer

Its a steal for the seller!

Buyer getting robbed

[swift moss]

exactly

egregious minimum order but looks cool

2 per tower

and i'll find a vifa tweeter or smthn

[rigid fjord]

and it's from coolermaster

[hexed tapir]

But it's has better compatibility then dell optiplexs

[random gyro]

sup

[real quiver]

Can anybody identify what gpu this is

I can't read the p/n and there's no other mention

5700xt?

[balmy tapir]

probably

[real quiver]

It's part of a TSA auction and I was curious

[waxen shell]

Plug it in

[waxen shell]

TSA?

Who took a gpu on a plane

[balmy tapir]

id guess its this one https://www.sapphiretech.com/en/consumer/nitro-radeon-rx-5700-xt-be-8g-gddr6

[hexed tapir]

Looks like my 5700xt nitro +

[real quiver]

Evidently not that guy

If the lot goes for cheap I'll probably try to pick it up and use it as a compute gpu

[real quiver]

I'm guessing that's what it is

[rigid fjord]

a sapphire nitro+

[real quiver]

No way

[waxen shell]

Lol

Captain obvious

[real quiver]

Gotta love government auctions

[waxen shell]

Rauko why did you switch your pfp for the rabbit guy

[real quiver]

So much work to setup an account but very worth it

[rigid fjord]

i haven't switched it for any thing

[waxen shell]

It’s like an anime guy now, no?

[rigid fjord]

discord has a bug they've never fixed

[waxen shell]

Ok

[rigid fjord]

if you have a main profile and a server profile, then it bugs out between them

[hexed tapir]

99.99% sure it is the 5700xt the 6700xt has a different backplate

[waxen shell]

Ok

[random gyro]

how did you become a part of that lmao

[real quiver]

I look at government auctions periodically

Last TSA auction I bid on was just a ton of snap-on screwdrivers

[hexed tapir]

Snap on lifetime warranty is non transferable

[real quiver]

Depends on your snap-on guy

Mine will warranty anything

They were all brand new in box though

Here's a good one

Pallets of straws

I also see a pallet of 275 Lenovo laptops

[topaz shale]

274 lenovo laptops? thats quite a lot

[agile gale]

Hey yall, rookie question here but just want to get a second confirmation. Does it matter if I use my intel ddr4 ram sticks in an Amd board for ddr4? It will still work correct?

[real quiver]

274 would be manageable but it's actually a whopping 275

[topaz shale]

no you mean 273?

thats a lot of laptops to validate im sure they must have miscounted

[waxen shell]

Wrong tech chat

[snow inlet]

yoo : https://yestonstore.com/products/yeston-sakura-360-desktop-liquid-cpu-cooler

[lapis furnace]

Boutta say goodbye to win11 25h2

[charred hare]

https://youtube.com/shorts/lH6xD4iVfcc?si=iUhDz1cXe4xPIoEp

[sinful cobalt]

yes it still works

[agile gale]

Thankss

[real quiver]

More e-waste than I'd like to purchase

[hexed tapir]

Already watched the full regular video

[real quiver]

I can tell you the common issues with different brands of refrigerators

[hexed tapir]

He also says that displays and electronic controls suck, then a few videos ago got sponsored by Samsung with a display only interface all in one washer dryer unit

[latent gull]

I mean, you can be correct and still need money

[waxen shell]

Yeston is based

[wispy thunder]

saw this ad... 850w for 60 but wtf happened to the chassis

[waxen shell]

Someone dropped it, idk brotato

[hexed tapir]

Did they "engine" swap it?

[wispy thunder]

how does a drop have flat lines then suddenly poke out the top

[wispy thunder]

Oh that's a really good theory actually

[crude osprey]

How good would the 15in Surface Laptop be in Gaming?

[wispy thunder]

bad

[hexed tapir]

With Nvidia "cloud gaming it will be great

[crude osprey]

what about without Nvidia cloud? Just natively running something like Zenless Zone Zero or Honkai Star Rail?

[hexed tapir]

Never heard of those games

[sinful cobalt]

Specific model/specs?

[crude osprey]

The Snapdragon X Elite Model.

[sinful cobalt]

ok yeah its trash

like what coopa said just use geforce now xddd

[crude osprey]

Cloud gaming is unreasonable for playing games when not home

and if i'm home i'll just play on playstation lmao

[hexed tapir]

Gaming on a arm based CPU won't be easy

[sinful cobalt]

you are on a platform that is known to be shit for gaming and incompatible with a lot of apps

[waxen shell]

My phone is very gamer

Runs clash royale at 120fps

[wispy thunder]

HSR you're better off just getting a solid android or apple tablet

at the very least HSR is a mobile game first, x86 second

[crude osprey]

I'd rather just get one machine for everything (School, gaming, etc). Hence why I was looking at the X Elite Laptop

[wispy thunder]

so it's super demanding for some reason on x86 but runs very well on arm

oh ic.

[crude osprey]

I mean X Plus runs Genshin Impact reasonably well on the Surface Pro (avg. 40FPS)... so I would assume Honkai Star Rail won't be too bad on X Elite(?)

[wispy thunder]

maybe wait for some X elite gen 2 laptops first?

[crude osprey]

My only chance to get a machine would be December so sadly this isn't an option

[wispy thunder]

that's the thing 40fps is piss weak when even iPads are running genshin at 120fps no hitches

HSR is a bit lighter than genshin, though.

[hexed tapir]

Cloud gaming is legitimate solution if you have good enough Internet

[sinful cobalt]

“For everything” ARM especially on windows is straight up not viable

[crude osprey]

Thing is, with tablets, the keyboard support is weak so even if it runs it at 120fps it would be a poor experience overall

[wispy thunder]

also this.

[crude osprey]

What do you mean?

[hexed tapir]

Arm isn't a viable option at all for windows imo

[wispy thunder]

As much as daily use is okay, gaming and certain productivity apps (CAD especially since with ARM laptops you're very ram limited) just suck.

[crude osprey]

The issue is, for me the good enough internet won't be realistic.

I'd be gaming during breaks at school, which school wi-fi is notoriously not good anywhere, and at some places like starbucks & mcdonalds

[sinful cobalt]

ARM has shit compatibility on windows and poor performance

its notoriously bad

[wispy thunder]

you're so much better off getting like an intel 2xxV/H/HX laptop or AMD equivalnet

[crude osprey]

I don't want to sacrifice the Copilot+ features though.

Recall will be genuinely helpful for my Computer Science classes.

[sinful cobalt]

literally every modern laptop comes with copilot

and copilot is shit

[wispy thunder]

Copilot+ is a feature on any laptop with 40TOPs NPU which AMD AI, Intel 2xxV, and ARM all have

[crude osprey]

Copilot =/= Copilot+

Copilot+ includes the AI powered search, Recall, etc.

[wispy thunder]

also recall is a privacy nightmare

[real quiver]

I hate copilot with a passion

[crude osprey]

I love copilot

[long cradle]

Is that sarcasm?

[real quiver]

I'll accidentally open it and it'll just make my laptop unusable for a few minutes

[crude osprey]

Then what laptop would you recommend in the ~$1200 price range with C+ & a sleek design that could be pulled out at like Starbucks without looking stupid?

[real quiver]

Also it sounds like copilot+ is the same as gemini

I have gemini pro because it's free for students

I would never pay for that

[crude osprey]

Yeah no.

Gemini is useless compared to Copilot+

[long cradle]

I don't bother with the AI crap fest, this is proper computing!

[real quiver]

I don't use ai for anything more than amusement or finding info on niche research topics

For example: replacing the shop floor with shag carpet

[real quiver]

I have a few timex sinclairs sitting in a box somewhere

[south arrow]

Ai is pretty good at breaking down bills wich rocks cause then I dont have to scroll through really boring government docs

[real quiver]

Gemini pro is really good at math/chemistry but I don't take either of those classes anymore

[south arrow]

Just ask it what is s.j res xx and voila (always double check but still)

[long cradle]

I love my ZX Spectrum. It's my favorite computer for programming.

[real quiver]

I got them as part of a bulk lot I bought

Was mostly after the commodore stuff at the time

[long cradle]

Imagine using a ZX Spectrum as your daily driver computer.

[real quiver]

Peak

[hexed tapir]

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/hp-omnibook-3-copilot-pc-15-6-full-hd-touch-screen-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-ai-5-330-16gb-memory-512gb-ssd-glacier-silver/JJGTCGJJ3K

[long cradle]

Heck...
Someone managed to get a ZX Spectrum on the Internet.

[real quiver]

Somebody makes wifi cards for the c64

And that pi you see next to it is for emulating disk images

[random gyro]

sup

[long cradle]

I would rather have an actual disk drive for the proper experience.

[real quiver]

The Macintosh on the right is worth a pretty penny because not a lot of them were preserved

Part of the low cost (LC) lineup AND made during the capacitor plague

[real quiver]

I of course have one

And a tape drive

Accidentally listening to data tapes 🔥🔥🔥

[long cradle]

My ZX Spectrum has a built-in cassette drive.

[real quiver]

I want one of the smith corona word processors with the 3.5" floppy drive

[wispy thunder]

Lenovo Slim 7i Aura edition

[real quiver]

I have one that takes their proprietary disks

[long cradle]

My main PC has a diskette drive.

[hexed tapir]

My car has a built in cassette player

[real quiver]

Dude I wanted a case like this so bad

[random gyro]

best internet providers?

[real quiver]

Local fiber companies

[long cradle]

BT

[wispy thunder]

Why?

Layout makes no sense nowadays imo

[real quiver]

3.5" drive funny

[wispy thunder]

Fractal Pop air then

[long cradle]

Because it has auxiliary drive bays.

[real quiver]

I also legitimately wanted a built in disc drive

[random gyro]

?

[real quiver]

I still burn CDs for my car

[long cradle]

British Telecom

[hexed tapir]

I thought it was a candy holder

[random gyro]

im in the us

[real quiver]

Now one thing I want is that Sony 100 disc CD changer

[wispy thunder]

Nah the tray down there just occupies the 5.25 bays

Yah theres 2 bays down there

[hexed tapir]

Nah it's for Skittles

[wispy thunder]

You can put your candy down there + a blu ray drive

[real quiver]

Actually I lied

Not the 100 disc

The 300 disc

[hexed tapir]

Only $300"

[real quiver]

One near me for like $30 but it has a problem

I'll see if I can find it again

[crude osprey]

The fact that it uses a barreljack is a deal breaker imo

Plus HP is filled to the brim with bloatware.

[crude osprey]

This is just ugly. 😭

[hexed tapir]

Fair

[long cradle]

By the way...

[long cradle]

Why can't we have more cases like this??

[wispy thunder]

Its by far the best value to get lunar lake

Sorry if you think its ugly

[hexed tapir]

Because the market wants glass

If it's not a fish tank gamers don't want it

[wispy thunder]

I run itx so ;-;

[crude osprey]

It would look so good if it wasn't for that tumor at the top

[hexed tapir]

The magnetic camera?

[wispy thunder]

That was the reason I didn't get it and kept my 2023 zephy g16 lmao

[long cradle]

Rawr!

[wispy thunder]

But I've used it

And it's a really good laptop

Just not quite my thing

If you're looking for a good igpu laptop though that's kinda your best bet

[wispy thunder]

It's not magnetic

There's genuinely just an oval at the top

It's like a .5mm lip that's there for no reason

[hexed tapir]

Oh

[wispy thunder]

My case right after I painted it:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/343300967665762305/1282553261626359839/IMG_34312.jpg?ex=690b768e&is=690a250e&hm=379d2ccbc551ef204a59edb3c575ad973d74a36ed8168a563e1183f40f0822c3&format=webp&width=585&height=878&

[hexed tapir]

I thought it was a removable webcam lmao

[wispy thunder]

Nah it's just stupid design

But for the price you can't really complain if you need a laptop

[long cradle]

No mate, this is a proper computer case.
I always go for function over looks.

[wispy thunder]

Are you single by chance

[limpid dune]

I put my NAS in one of these and it's awesome

[wispy thunder]

I love that case

[hexed tapir]

No real front intake L

[wispy thunder]

Shame it's so expensive and even more expensive to produce

[long cradle]

The hell does that have anything to do with it??

[wispy thunder]

Lmfao

I love profilingn people

[real quiver]

It sold

Unfortunate

[crude osprey]

Sadly it is not

[real quiver]

I did just find a $35 rx580 though

[long cradle]

What does that mean?

[limpid dune]

they want to marry you and then break up and take your cases in the divorce

[grizzled frost]

is this your image?

[hexed tapir]

No

[long cradle]

Hey! That's my GPU!

[wispy thunder]

I used to have an rx570 8gb that looked like that. Awesome card at the time

[limpid dune]

kinda like how my bf upgraded his PC from a GTX 1060 to an RTX 4080S for 0$ by moving in with me

[real quiver]

Wait

Like you're selling it?

[hexed tapir]

Room for second bf?

[wispy thunder]

Damn imagine having to bribe someone to live with you (I'm joking)

[long cradle]

No. That's what I have in my PC now.

[cold skiff]

He got a good deal

[real quiver]

Oh I thought I just messaged you on marketplace for a second 😭

For $35 it'll make a good compute gpu

[limpid dune]

no. we share the computer by having seperate boot drives (one for him, one for me, one for testing). three boot drives is already too many 😭

[hexed tapir]

Damn

[long cradle]

Man, I paid £50 for mine.

[wispy thunder]

I have never seen a sleeper build owned by someone with a significant other

[real quiver]

It's a 16gb card which is especially great for compute

[cold skiff]

Separate boot drives?

Wtf

[limpid dune]

he's a windows boy, I'm a linux creature

we will never be able to share boot drives 💔

[cold skiff]

I call that an online gamer v single player gamer

[long cradle]

Not sure what that has to do with what computer someone has.

[wispy thunder]

friend vs friendless

[limpid dune]

true asf 😭

plays valorant vs doesn't play valorant

[wispy thunder]

I'm making a profiling joke dw

[cold skiff]

Not at all. I play online, I have no friends

[limpid dune]

oh wait, I also have the NAS which can be used as a gaming computer when my BF is using the main computer 😅

[real quiver]

Why are people smoking crack on used hard drive pricing

[limpid dune]

I have a weird setup frfr

[real quiver]

I'm not paying you $60 for a used 4tb wd blue

[wispy thunder]

why are you looking at used hard drives 😭

[cold skiff]

Tbh anyone want a baby? Around 18 months? Female. She’s also blonde with blue eyes if that helps your own family aesthetic. Is up at 2am so yknow, only reason for giving her away

[long cradle]

Buy a Quantum Bigfoot

[real quiver]

Data hoarder reasons

I have parity

[limpid dune]

what clock frequency

[real quiver]

And any data I actually care about is backed up to the cloud

[wispy thunder]

"family aesthetics" you mean Ethnic cleansing?

[limpid dune]

this is the way. I have six 4TB thingamajigs in a ZFS array

[wispy thunder]

shame, still not using 321 method

[sleek ibex]

Not even SCSI

[limpid dune]

all the important stuff goes on the googoo drive

[real quiver]

Here's my beautiful nas (I'm still looking for a case)

[long cradle]

I never use cloud storage.
I back my stuff up on optical discs and diskettes.

[limpid dune]

OPTICAL????

[wispy thunder]

optical lmfao

[long cradle]

CDs, DVDs, and Blu-ray.

[grim moon]

https://tenor.com/view/bringus-studios-optical-media-dreamcast-optical-optical-media-bad-gif-13639358830116387831

[long cradle]

That legitimately pisses me off.

[sleek ibex]

I wonder if anyone here knows about zip drives

[limpid dune]

I have a ZIP drive! I need a parallel port to run it tho

[grim moon]

yes

[long cradle]

I do, but they're expensive.

[limpid dune]

"fuck man I wish there was a way to store 600MB in a way that has read speeds of like 10MB/s tops"

CDs:

[sleek ibex]

They weren't really that popular. You mostly saw them in Apple Macs during the mid 90s - early 00s

[real quiver]

I personally only backup my data to Colorado Systems data tapes

[limpid dune]

blu ray backups is... doable. but still oof that's slow as hell

[long cradle]

I use these for my ZX Spectrum.

[limpid dune]

and ugh that degradation

[sleek ibex]

Also those SOBs (zips) had a fairly high fail rate

[limpid dune]

I found my granpa's TRS-80 tapes from ~1984 an they still work

the d key on my laptop really is dying now 😭

it kina works every once in a while

[real quiver]

Looks like I'm picking up a $35 rx580 16gb on Thursday

[limpid dune]

ayo? that's amazing for larg lagag mogel

[long cradle]

It's a good GPU. I use one in my main PC.

[limpid dune]

larn lango modog

[hollow ore]

Anyone have any clue what’s happened to my tv lol

[real quiver]

I'm just going to use it for compute probably

[limpid dune]

hell yeah, GCN cards are kinda goated for that

[real quiver]

Nothing will survive my cutting edge compute array

[limpid dune]

that card might actually do really well with emulated RTX under linux vulkan

[real quiver]

An rx580 and a gtx 960

[long cradle]

I really love this GPU.
I love the sounds the fans make.

[quasi moat]

Took a wrong turn

God damn GPS

[sleek ibex]

SCSI support let's gooooo

[long cradle]

I wish modern motherboards had ISA slots.

I would love to have an AdLib card in my PC.

[real quiver]

If I ever get a gpu for my main pc then my 3060ti will join the compute array

At this rate I'll have to build a separate compute node

[long cradle]

Put a Voodoo5 in your main PC!

[real quiver]

My main pc yearns for a 5090

[sleek ibex]

3DFX..... Sigh
Yeah I can't justify spending an ungodly premium on these

[real quiver]

I wish I could put my pci modem card in my pc

[long cradle]

Give it a Voodoo5 instead.

[real quiver]

I think the igpu might be more powerful

[sleek ibex]

Because it is

[crude osprey]

Bruh the more I look for a Copilot+ Laptop (non arm) the more disappointment I recieve.

Its either:
A. The ugliest thing imaginable (Lenovo)
B. Filled to the brim with bloatware (Dell & HP)
C. Ridiculously priced (Asus)

[real quiver]

I like the lenovo package but hate the lack of serviceability

[long cradle]

What about a Fujitsu Lifebook?
I have one of those.

Mine even comes with a DVD-RW drive.

[fringe prairie]

for B just reinstall windows?

[crude osprey]

Sadly they dont seem to be sold in the US

[crude osprey]

They fucking reinstall

Especially on HP. The apps will just reinstall themselves no matter what

[fringe prairie]

get the iso from ms directly not from hp or something

[long cradle]

Here's mine.

[distant frigate]

https://www.theverge.com/news/693762/comcast-xfinity-internet-plans-unlimited-data-caps wait wtf I didn’t see this

Comcast dropped their data caps?

[crude osprey]

I do, thats the kicker

I dont know why the apps install themselves

[distant frigate]

Dude this is awesome

Data caps are absolutely stupid in 2025

[long cradle]

It's coded into the motherboard's firmware.

[distant frigate]

Cox already offers no data caps here for free due to competition

[real quiver]

I dropped Comcast years ago

Too unreliable

[cold skiff]

Can’t remember the last time I saw that on broadband in the UK

[long cradle]

We used to have that with BT. Now it's unlimited, thank the dragons.

[cold skiff]

I can’t remember the last time BT had it

I’m that old tbfh

[formal sonnet]

It would seem as such. Glad to see Comcast finally reach the year 2010.

[crude osprey]

Thats what I assumed

[distant frigate]

Honestly though it’s too late. They lost a good bit of broadband customers

And there’s still other aspects of Comcast people don’t like

[cold skiff]

I remember the invisible speed downgrade of you downloaded 2-10gb in a month in the uk though

[distant frigate]

I’m happy that they finally did one thing right for the consumer though

[cold skiff]

Bt was 10gb so no biggy back then

[long cradle]

Fujitsu seems to be the only OEM that doesn't put bloatwear on their computers.

That's why I got a Lifebook for college.

[distant frigate]

$0.00 for each 50 GB. Pretty much unlimited data for free

[cold skiff]

Dayumn that still exists?

Tbfh i had unlimited on like 2mbps. I couldn’t understand this data capping in USA even then

[gleaming rose]

just reinstall Windows and get an actually decent computer?

[solar moat]

if i download 24/7 for 1 month i cant even hit that

due to my internt so slow

[long cradle]

Well, custom PCs are usually more expensive.

[jaunty apex]

Your name is literally Unix, you are halfway there

[long cradle]

I don't see how that's relevant to the conversation.

[formal sonnet]

Actual unlimited data, as all home/business internet plans should have.

[jaunty apex]

You don't need a custom build to install windows fresh BTW.

[long cradle]

By the way, I hate Linux. I just have that name because it sounds cool.
I'm a Windows user.

[cold skiff]

Apparently in the UK broadband companies signed up to abolish data caps which were only in the lowest tier - in 2020

[jaunty apex]

Poser

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-tf2-sniper-jarate-gif-4672190585115702611

[cold skiff]

Like fuck how have I never seen a data capping since 2004 and it only got abolished in 2020

[sleek ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/whitepeopledancing-dancing-windows95-win95-microsoft-gif-7658602

[long cradle]

Also, it's because I have a mecha dragon OC called Unix.

[jaunty apex]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-gif-22979597

[long cradle]

I did these in Photoshop and Illustrator.

[jaunty apex]

Will the screen blend in with your body if I delete system32

[long cradle]

Nope, I'll just shut down.

[hexed sage]

Guys

If my mobo is prone to bios corruption should i replace it?

[jaunty apex]

Probably sounds like a good idea. Or at least have one lined up

[south arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/nemo-its-like-hes-trying-to-speak-to-me-finding-nemo-gif-15387458

[hexed sage]

I had the same mobo die to bios corruption twice

[long cradle]

Also, there's no system32...
His name is UNIX ffs.

[jaunty apex]

Does he run Unix or windows

[sleek ibex]

I have a thing for these cases

[south arrow]

If your corrupting bios i dont even know what to say i want picss

[long cradle]

He runs UNIX.

[south arrow]

I want to see the ui showing symbols

[hexed sage]

Huh?

[south arrow]

Last bit was jokes

[hexed sage]

My mobo is dead so i should probably get it asap

[south arrow]

Data corruption usually looks like this

[long cradle]

Any cases with auxiliary drive bays are a must have for me.

[jaunty apex]

That power button is kinda goofy. And what's that LCD indicate

[sleek ibex]

CPU speed

[cold skiff]

Probably the best example of how the media didn’t understand unix in the 90s

[jaunty apex]

Ah figured. Wasn't sure. That is neat anyway

[cold skiff]

133mhz balling

[jaunty apex]

Turbo

[sleek ibex]

yeah buddy

[jaunty apex]

😩

[cold skiff]

A packard bell pc had that back in the day

[hexed sage]

Well thats not my problem 💀

[cold skiff]

Pentium owners of the time paid a premium to look that cool

[south arrow]

I assumed so just keks, sorry fam

[hexed sage]

My friend unplugged my pc while it was on, I plugged it back in and i wouldnt get a display output, dram light on mobo, pretty sure my ram slot is fried or the ram itself is, maybe both

[south arrow]

All jokes aside adding images and details in #1027757333117415424 somone may be able to help

[hexed sage]

Ive had this same exact issue and nobody could help tbh 😭

I’m just replacing the mobo already

[south arrow]

Thats valid easier that way sometimes

[cold skiff]

See I know that can happen. But I’ve done that since the 90s and it’s never happened to me

[hexed sage]

Its happened to me twice

[sleek ibex]

Yep. Though the turbo functionality became useless once the Pentium class CPUs came along

[jaunty apex]

Wonder why someone named Unix with a sona that runs unix would hate Linux though

[south arrow]

All I got is trying diffrent slots, using 1 stick in each slot, and cmos clear. But im not there and cant see it which is half the battle

[hexed sage]

I have an as rock b660m-c board and i heard it sucks

[cold skiff]

My psu cable has hit off the wall on my current pc so much from my kid, the prongs have some play and tugging the cable does that. Must have happened around 100 times in 2 years and the pc still lives

[hexed sage]

Tried, for some reason i dont get rgb output in the third slot even tho it still posts, and instill dont get video output no matter what

[hexed sage]

Good brand?

[cold skiff]

Even in igpu?

It’s Corsair psu

[hexed sage]

I dont have an iGPU

[south arrow]

Slot 3 sounds toast

[hexed sage]

But im sure i still wouldnt get an output

[south arrow]

Suspicious forsures

[hexed sage]

I meant slot 4 btw

Do you think slot 1 and 3 would work?

[cold skiff]

Depends. If mobo toast then no output. If it works then gpu toast

[south arrow]

Id certainly try just slot 1 with 1 stick

[south arrow]

And cmos clear* incase you wiggled anything out and it needs a reconfig defaults the cpu and ram and pcie slots to manufacturer spec (this also causes a memory train period of a few minutes)

[cold skiff]

My kid does it puling 280-300w on the gpu every time 🤦‍♂️ but yeah can’t fault a Corsair psu. The protections are brilliant

[hexed sage]

When the ram is crunchy

Soooo

No video output 🤔

[sleek ibex]

Been collecting parts to build around the 1994 build the family had, based around the DX2-66. Sure, the DX4-100 was around but that was more popular amongst prebuilt OEMs/SIs (in our area at least) as it wasn't a go-to especially it was in a weird cross-roads between the popular DX2-66 and the Socket 5 Pentiums that were also releasing during that time

and Pentiums were ungodly expensive in 94 as the 486DX2-66 was the more realistic high-end choice at the time the family got it

[cold skiff]

We had a DX 66. My uncle got a massively subsidised pentium from the government as it was considered a home working PC at the time

Needless to say, me and my cousins played Quake on that more than he ever did work

[swift moss]

is hinge fix possible?

[hexed tapir]

JB weld and pray

[swift moss]

hmm

is the hinge metal?

[crude osprey]

What's a better deal?

• Lenovo Yoga Slim 7i Aura Edition
• ASUS Vivobook S 16 OLED
• Others(?)

[sleek ibex]

Yeah, at the time Pentiums were the equivalent to buying threadrippers. The only Pentium I can see being a reasonable option in 1994 was the Pentium 75. And then there are the PODs for Socket 3 which dropped in 1996.... the thing about those were once they dropped; you could easily buy a Pentium or equivalent class CPU and Socket 7 motherboard for cheaper than what they went for (and was a more choice as the Socket 7 platform had reached maturity and had a better upgrade path)

[cold skiff]

I think a similar question is asked every other day including a yoga laptop

Wait for when setsuna is up. He’s the man for that stuff

[fringe prairie]

two different category of laptop tbh

slim 7i aura is meant to be the 13/15" mba competitor

s16 with 285h has much better performance but worse battery life

[crude osprey]

Which would be better for daily tasks? (Commuting, Gaming, Schoolwork, etc?)

[fringe prairie]

7i aura imo

much better battery life

[subtle mountain]

best exchange for buying and sending crypto?
coinbase locks my crypto up for a week

[crude osprey]

What about if I throw a Dell 16 Plus (Core Ultra 7 258V) into the mix aswell? where would that land?

[swift moss]

hm should i offer, 75 bucks?

[random gyro]

sup

[weak widget]

(i went on my admin acc to delete the bloatware)

oh shi my email is there

how do i remove this

[random gyro]

(epic question)

i have a pretty niche issue:

im mochi, and i dont really game much on the computer. i do a bit of coding and photoshop work, and been trying to find a decent monitor for such. id want a taller aspect ratio (like 16:10 or 3:2) but monitors with those aspect ratios are expensive brand new, even used options (like the dell u2412m) which is 1920x1200 are uncommon in my country and have outrageous shipping costs from the US.

should i bite the bullet and import a second hand 16:10 monitor to my country or should i sacrifice in resolution by getting a 1680x1050 monitor?

[weak widget]

bite the bullet

u wont regret it

[random gyro]

200 usd shipping for a 15 year old display...

ya really think its worth the shipping cost?

[weak widget]

why not get a new one?

[random gyro]

could work

[cold skiff]

He wants a TN panel to remind him of the 00s

[random gyro]

i dont

[weak widget]

Lol

[formal sonnet]

JB Weld / Epoxy, or replace the headphones.

[cold skiff]

Look at that colour bleed

[weak widget]

I mean if u can get the new one do it

[cold skiff]

It’s fucking gorgeous. Reminds me of being 16 again

[swift moss]

na i don't own the headphones yet lol, they 150nzd on fbm

[random gyro]

i want specifically a 16:10 or 3:2 monitor because i get more space to use up for tasks like coding and photoshop

[formal sonnet]

This is why I deliberately went looking for WH-1000XM3/4's when I bought mine. I read all about the headband snapping with the XM5's... not worth the headache, especially considering the MSRP.

[carmine yew]

See if a 3d print replacement exists online?

[swift moss]

yeah i think there are some for the lower hinge, idk about the higher one, there's whole hinges original for 30 bucks on ali

[swift moss]

true ig but they look cooler hehe

[swift moss]

still the same hassle of reseating a mini connector and allat

which idrm ig

if i offered like 75 and new swivel hinge for 25 then i'd have xm5s for 100nzd lol

[random gyro]

i could also go for a benq

but its pretty expensive, costs as much as my laptop

[cold skiff]

I don’t like Ben. Especially when he Q’s

[random gyro]

what did he even do :(

[swift moss]

shows glare

[weak widget]

Xm6

[random gyro]

eh

[stark kiln]

Sora 2 is so cool for certain things

[stark kiln]

Like I can make it do 67 meme written down in Hebrew in 10 AD

[jaunty apex]

I too love wasting exorbitant amounts of energy in massive datacenters to generate slop

[fickle ivy]

Google night sight vs an amateur with open camera

Both captured on a pixel 6a

[little vigil]

the 2nd pc

[hexed sage]

Guys

My motherboard died

[ivory mountain]

Revive it

[hexed sage]

No u

[whole garden]

L

[tawny lava]

What are some must needed acessories to have on a new standing desk pc setup? Like headphone underdesk hook raceway channel cable management, ect

[viscid helm]

I don’t have downloaded videos on YT, what’s that 4GB data??

[swift moss]

rip to all the ghosted men out there

[random gyro]

sup

[swift moss]

sup

this is why i love 80s technology

[random gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/my-pc-windows-error-windows-error-gif-18869735

[marsh relic]

is there no way in Win11 to control the arrangement of items pinned to the start menu? it keeps shifting the list together, like it wont let you have open spaces like in Win10

[formal sonnet]

Not to my knowledge. They took a page out of Apple's iOS book.

[marsh relic]

"fuck the users"?

[formal sonnet]

Eh, more like "you're using it wrong."

[marsh relic]

very John Deere of them

why does Win11 suck.... 🙁 smh

[formal sonnet]

All software sucks. How "much" it sucks is subjective.

[swift moss]

na windows is more modifiable and repairable

[marsh relic]

i cant even put my pinned items where i want

[frigid blade]

wdym you cant put them where you want

you just click and drag

or right click and move left or right

[marsh relic]

pin some stuff to your start menu and try moving them without the rest sliding up to take its place

[frigid blade]

wdym sliding up to take its place

[marsh relic]

it wont let you leave gaps etc

you cant put it where you want

[frigid blade]

other than leave gaps what cant you do

I can move them around wherever id like

if I want discord before calculator, I put it in between calculator and the app before it

and it goes where I want it

[marsh relic]

otherwise, yeah, it literally wont even let you layout your start menu how someone wants

[marsh relic]

feel free to sort similar to this, without it shoving your programs up

[jaunty apex]

Removing features? Naw Microsoft wouldn't do that

[frigid blade]

theres third party solutions to revert back to winodws 10 menu

[marsh relic]

ok so when i said Win11 wont even let you do it..........

lol

[frigid blade]

youre still in windows 11 if you revert the menu, not sure what your point is

[marsh relic]

windows isnt letting you do that, youre literally having to download another program just to get features back that were taken away

[frigid blade]

are you surprised tho? You have to do that for a lot with winodws 11

[marsh relic]

am i surprised features were taken away? yeah sorry that enshitification still surprises me 🤷‍♂️

[midnight badger]

Hi could someone check out this prebuilt i found

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2twPRV

[spice kettle]

i have a pocket 4g sim wifi, its battery says "limited charge voltage = 4.2v" but the actual voltage it says 3.7v. What does it mean?

does it mean it only accepts charging below 4.2v and not more?

[frail delta]

I have never once used any icon in the start menu

Even on Windows 10...

[south arrow]

Last time I used the start menu was for pinball

[ivory mountain]

damn unc

[south arrow]

🦖

[pale flint]

i do

i keep my desktop clean

well not so clean but i havent covered it whole with app icons

i can use power toys as well but thats for applications i dont have on start menu or desktop

[south arrow]

I lowkey just like pinball and it was probs a few weeks ago 😂

[frail delta]

I have desktop icons disabled

[south arrow]

Desktop icons for my more common apps

But some peeps like to have it be aesthetic wich is cool to

[frail delta]

beautiful

[sleek ibex]

[peak swan]

Ah yes, 4g wwan cards are 20 to 45€, meanwhile 5g wwan cards are 110€ or more

Not that the Thinkpad I'm getting needs more than 4g
Even 4g on it is a bit of a stretch because I'm pretty sure it's from like 2007 (Thinkpad x61)

[south arrow]

Its very dark

Is lime ok, you doing good fam?

I mean i enjoy black as much as the next guy dont get me wrong

[peak swan]

Ah yes, vertical ultrawide

[frail delta]

The wallpaper hasn't come back after my most recent remote desktop session :(

Usually it's the default Microsoft one that changes every couple days 😂

[sinful cobalt]

mf on his way to go watch tiktok/yt shorts with that screen

[rigid fjord]

it better buy me dinner and drinks before it gets to try that

[frail delta]

fantastic to leave windows open to glance at throughout the day

[tawny lava]

is 2 single monitor arms better than 1 dual monitor arm

[harsh vector]

https://ecommerce.datablitz.com.ph/collections/all/products/g-skill-trident-z5-neo-rgb-96gb-2x48gb-ddr5-6000mhz-cl30-36-36-96-1-35v-amd-expo-desktop-memory-f5-6000j3036f48gx2-tz5nr

guys, is this good?

[frail delta]

Depends on how your desk and how you want the monitors positioned

[topaz shale]

generally yes, i would say monitor size matters more than anything

ive had a lot of trouble with dual mounts for 27 in monitors, im currently using 4 seperate mounts

[tawny lava]

is a 2in1 headphone hook and cup holder a good thing to purchase for a standing desk pc setup

[topaz shale]

idk buddy thats all you

[rigid fjord]

i wouldn't say so, if you walked into it. ar knocked it off then you're not going to have a 'fun' time

[abstract wigeon]

want to buy a bambu a1, should i get the ams and filament drier also?

[rigid fjord]

yes

and while you're at it, the automatic bed swap mod

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yVpsnk49cD4

[peak swan]

Stfu u shitass sim, i know

[peak swan]

Ibm

[light agate]

Quick random question! Is it possible to make a phone that only supports SIMs, eSIM Compatible / does anyone have experience with cards from like 5ber?

[peak swan]

Motherload of thinkpads

[peak swan]

Yeah, there's like a sim card you install and then you can add esims from an app

[light agate]

Why did you buy that many? O_o

[peak swan]

I didn't

Mainly because I'm broke as shit

[light agate]

Yeah https://esim.5ber.com/ does offer that but I am unsure if "it just works" or if it is any good at all.

There is also esim.me or so but they want 70$ for a normal sim card 😂

[peak swan]

Idk, haven't tried it yet (because my carrier doesn't support esim on prepaid lol)

[light agate]

Yeah, my carrier also does not for 1 of my 2 cards.

But here in Germany esims are a loooot cheaper than physical sims

[spark path]

If am trying to buy something and they say the sign up for buying it is closed. Is there a way to bypass that and make a ticket anyway?

[peak swan]

On lttstore?

[spark path]

Nah lol

[peak swan]

Hmm

[spark path]

Am trying to find an instagram reel that did that but I can’t seem to get any close

[peak swan]

Even if there is a way, it's probably illegal tbh

[spark path]

Nah am paying

[peak swan]

Still

[spark path]

They just closed the sign up since they say they ran out but I know they got more

[peak swan]

Also they likely sold out already anyways, plus they know when the system was closed vs when the order was placed
So it'll probably just show "sorry, but your order was refunded"

[spark path]

That’s fine I just need a screen shot

Am just trying to buy a ticket for parking in my college so they let me park in the premises not outside

[peak swan]

But uhh just try and add the product id to your cart (similar to how delisted steam games can be bought by just adding the game listing id to cart)

[peak swan]

Lmfao

Hacking ur collage is peak

[spark path]

Yeah they said we had 2 days to buy them tickets but then in the same day it ran out

[peak swan]

Well maybe all the parking spots got snatched up

[spark path]

I had completely forgot about buying it right when the purchase was open so I ended missing on it

[spark path]

Yeah they did but there are spots inside still

[peak swan]

Parking spot scalpers??

[peak swan]

Maybe those are reserved lol

[spark path]

Nah we just have a guard on the gate and you show him the thing and they let you in

[spark path]

Nah it’s on a wide dirt space

[peak swan]

Make a fake one lmao

[spark path]

Not even marked

[spark path]

I don’t know how it looks like

But that’s a good idea

[peak swan]

Just have someone that got one send u a pic or smth lol

[spark path]

Yeah I was thinking of doing that

But I still wanna try to bypass the sign up

[peak swan]

Welp uhh you'll be digging in the F12 menu on a browser (chromium) or ctrl + shift + i menu (Firefox)

[spark path]

I am using brave

[peak swan]

And it's based on chromium

[spark path]

Oh tbh I have no clue what that means

[open warren]

Could someone recommend a good router? My current Service Provider router doesn’t give good Wi-Fi coverage throughout my house. I’ve already run an Ethernet cable from the first floor (where the router is) down to the ground floor living room. I want a router that’ll cover all rooms and deliver strong speeds , i plan to plug in the new router with the ethernet cable i wired so - any reccomendation would be helpful 🙂

[peak swan]

Welp
You probably have no chance of breaking the system them lmao

[peak swan]

Uhh if it's a big house, a mesh network might be better

[sinful cobalt]

In that case get a mesh system not a router

[open warren]

https://amzn.in/d/5QN9YnS

like this?

[sinful cobalt]

yes

[peak swan]

Finally someone agrees with me lol

[open warren]

will it reduce the wifi speeds?

[sinful cobalt]

its entirely up to the distance between, what they’re rated for and what gig speed you hook them with

[open warren]

my main wifi isnt that fast 300mbps and i would connect the main node to the ethernet i wired in the living room

[sinful cobalt]

you dont connect it to the router

[peak swan]

I might get a long ass Ethernet cable and set up another router closer to the other side of the house because tbf currently the one router doesn't reach there
Also gonna set up a guest wifi using another router i have

[open warren]

ts what i was planning to do

i got a long ass cable routed it from first floor to ground floor living room

[open warren]

then?

[sinful cobalt]

straight to the modem

[peak swan]

I'm not saying it's a good solution btw
It's just cheaper for me because i already have a few routers laying around

[open warren]

wirelessly?

[peak swan]

And I'm broke as shit

[sinful cobalt]

No, the primary mesh is connected to the modem, the rest connect and link wirelessly

[open warren]

well if i wanna get mesh throughout my house thats gonna be expensive then i might need more than 2

[rigid fjord]

sometimes it works out cheaper making y our own cable

[open warren]

wont it be better and cheaper to get a gud router connect it to the cable i have in the living room ?

[peak swan]

Yeah
I have no idea how to tho
Also i could just but female to female rj45 adapters and Daisy chain what i already have lol

[sinful cobalt]

you said to all rooms, mesh is more effective in dealing with deadzones

[rigid fjord]

mesh networks are the cheap form of business ap's connected together

[open warren]

hmm shi only if i could return it if it wasnt as gud as i expected it to be 🙁

[toxic nova]

1 year apart

[open warren]

so the cable in my living room is useless took a whole day to route thru the ducts 😿

[rigid fjord]

cat5e/cat6 cable some rj45 connectors, a wiring diagram and a proper crimper is all that it takes

[peak swan]

I mean tbf for me the deadzone is literally just a square area farthest from the router

[rigid fjord]

the literal pinout for rj45

[peak swan]

I guess I'll look up a tutorial lol

[peak swan]

Also you can get away with only 2 pairs for a low speed application

[rigid fjord]

technically only 4 pins are being used for data on this

[peak swan]

Or so I've heard

[peak swan]

Is the rest poe?

[rigid fjord]

the other 4 can be used for poe yes, some do it as a crossover connectoer instead of a straight to straight connector

[raven scroll]

help

Why did my screen become like this suddenly

I can turn off the monitor but can’t turn off pc

[rigid fjord]

you can also used rj45 in dsl connections

[rigid fjord]

#1027757333117415424

[raven scroll]

Ima just yolo and turn off psu

[peak swan]

Uhh u still got warranty?

[raven scroll]

Probabaly

But I’m not sure of this is monitor issue or smth in my pc

[peak swan]

Hmmmmm

[raven scroll]

But I can still clearly open and close the lil monitor hub to change settings

Oop turning off psu seemed to fix it

[peak swan]

Ah yes, definitely broke as shit (all of them have issues)

[raven scroll]

Hopefully I didn’t fry smth

[peak swan]

I mean I've has weird issues where a usb hub makes pc not boot past bios splash screen or takes half an hour to get to bios, disconnect hub, connect a ps/2 keyboard and it booted perfectly

[raven scroll]

Interesting

[peak swan]

I hate cheap shit

[raven scroll]

Well now I’m just curious to what that issue was

[cold skiff]

If that happens again re-plug in the cable at monitor and gpu

[peak swan]

A computer doing computer things lol

[cold skiff]

Could just be a signalling issue

[peak swan]

Also reseat ram and gpu

[raven scroll]

Well when I turned monitor on again it clearly said “display port”

But the image was still off

[cold skiff]

Nah no need to do that. It could be the main board on its way out

Gpu would artifact not produce a symmetrical scan

[raven scroll]

Maybe it’s my oc

Idk tbh ngl

[cold skiff]

If the monitor is oc’d then yep it’s that

[peak swan]

Same happens with my Samsung monitor too lol
It often won't display post screen, just will show image when boots into linux or windows
But then on another pc bios will show fine on it
Weird

[raven scroll]

Monitor isn’t ocd

Gpu is tho

[cold skiff]

Using custom resolution or refresh?

[raven scroll]

This wasn’t post

[cold skiff]

A generic oc in gpu wouldn’t do that

[sinful cobalt]

i didnt know monitors can have obsessive compulsive disorder

[raven scroll]

Was just using it normally then it shat itself

[cold skiff]

Out of bounds for the monitor will

Which will be a mainboard issue or signal issue in the cable

[raven scroll]

The worst part is

I don’t know how to replicate it

[cold skiff]

Which is a good thing

[raven scroll]

No

[cold skiff]

As it could just be an isolated issue

[raven scroll]

What if it’s a ticking time bomb

Something Shat itself and that was the early sign

[cold skiff]

Don’t think too much about it

[peak swan]

Well sometimes when I set the Samsung to 144hz, it browns out and says no signal (shit cables lol) and tries all inputs
Also sometimes i get artifacts and blinking on/off when high res hits and i gotta do the key combo to reset gpu (iirc it was ctrl + win + alt + b), and sometimes it has issues when pc wakes from sleep

[peak swan]

Out of bounds back in the day could literally kill a monitor (crt ray gun shooting rays in a place it shouldn't)

[peak swan]

Mm yes, my hard drives be like

[cold skiff]

Still can now

[peak swan]

The amount of thinkpads in this school is crazy

Just one pile i saw

[remote rock]

Does this look correct? Was a while ago since i cleaned the build so i dismounted the cpu fan from its tower.

[humble blade]

I can see what they mean about the Task Manager issue

[random gyro]

forget about oled burn in, look at lcd burn in

[rigid fjord]

well that's one way of mounting it

[thorny saddle]

not ideal orientation

[rigid fjord]

i'd have the cooler pointing to the rear personally

[spark path]

Yeah this shit does seem impossible

[random gyro]

same thing happened with my lcd (i dont have a picture)

its an older dell monitor from about 2017 that i got second hand

[peak swan]

My old phone had that problem

[random gyro]

all my phones had that problem (had about 3 in my lifetime)

[humble blade]

My phone got burn in

[peak swan]

I have 12 currently (I've had like 10 daily drivers lol)

[rigid fjord]

when you have an old plasma and it has no burn in

[random gyro]

chosen one

[humble blade]

The nice thing about plasma

[remote rock]

it is pointing to the rear

[random gyro]

ive went through three or four phones in my lifetime

only got a phone of my own in 2021

[random gyro]

which was a galaxy s8 with tons of burn in from my dad scrolling on facebook with it (hand me down)

[rigid fjord]

well that's the wrong orientation as it is

[rigid fjord]

should be mounted like this

[remote rock]

oh, i see

ye next build i will keep in mind that makes more sense

thank you

[thorny saddle]

why not fix it now?

[rigid fjord]

airflow goes like so

[remote rock]

ye

[remote rock]

lazy asf i will build a new build once intel releases more processors with higher cache running a 13600 right now

so hopefully within a year

[thorny saddle]

I get it but you're literally sucking up hot GPU backplate air and pumping it into the heatsink

[steel umbra]

Fan here is usually not beneficial

The air doesn't get very hot

[pale flint]

goof

[steel umbra]

Ello hyacinth

[gleaming rose]

https://www.theverge.com/policy/813991/epic-google-proposed-settlement?ch=1
this is very much a step in the right direction

[steel umbra]

Especially important now they want to control apks

[wheat torrent]

That's crazy

[indigo bough]

what thermal paste should i get?

[wheat torrent]

The good one

[indigo bough]

duh

[gleaming rose]

they aren't removing adb

[wheat torrent]

[indigo bough]

ty ty

£27 for 3ml

[wheat torrent]

If I would buy a custom thermal paste

I would get those hard sheets

Otherwise, I would just use whatever my cooler includes

I don't think it's a big deal

83-95 is def decent difference

[indigo bough]

i might get mx 6

its a whole lot cheaper and only 3 dec c difference

oh kryonaut sheets?

didint know they existed

holy holy

[ebon marlin]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidias-latest-game-ready-drivers-break-support-for-older-forza-titles

[rigid fjord]

these are for when you oc with a gpu not for use on a cpu,

[rigid fjord]

go for mx-4, mx-6 or tf-7

[indigo bough]

Gotchu

[indigo bough]

Yeah I will do

Much appreciated man

[thorny saddle]

They are "reusable" but also conductive - have to be careful

[thorny saddle]

That's not true

[buoyant bridge]

does anyone know if theres a way around the MOK key block on 8th gen Ryzen AI Pro stuff?

I know disabling secure boot isnt possible but is there a way to atleast enroll MOK keys (Thinkpad T14s G6 if that matters but it affects litterally all Ryzen PRO laptops)

[cold skiff]

Why no mx4 tested. Still sold and used in bucket loads

[exotic valley]

i have liquid metal just never bothered to use them

dont wanna make a mess

[cold skiff]

I have some TF7 prebundled I never used. Didn’t realise it’s decent. Should use that in the future

[buoyant bridge]

I save it for laptops n stuff and use MX4 with my tower coolers

[stark spear]

Guys is running 2x8GiB 5600 and a 2x16GiB 6000 on DDR5 better than running just the 2x16?

[buoyant bridge]

do you mean 4x8GiB?

[stark spear]

No

Using all 4 DIMM slots

[buoyant bridge]

what CPU are you on?

[stark spear]

For my friend think he has a 7600X

[buoyant bridge]

consumer platforms should never use all 4 dimm slots on DDR5 it loses preformance and creates a ton of instability

[buoyant bridge]

then no take the 5600 sticks out

[stark spear]

Yeah

I though so

I’ve always that was a major flaw in DDR5

[buoyant bridge]

it only affects consumer platforms and the instability is more so an AMD thing (very common on intel too though unless ur on a pro chipset)

[steel umbra]

mx-4 is probably outdated

[stark spear]

Like why on earth would anyone run 4 DIMMs then unless maybe you have like a server and need high capacity

[buoyant bridge]

because on DDR3 and Intel DDR4 it didn't have any downsides besides access speeds not getting increased
on DDR5 theres a lot of downsides

[stark spear]

Yeah

That what I though was weird is how the newer technology has more downsides

[buoyant bridge]

it has to do with the higher CAS latency coming from higher memory speeds, high end DDR3 was only like CL14 , DDR5 is CL28 at the VERY lowest (lower is better)

[stark spear]

Yeah

Forgot about CAS latency

[buoyant bridge]

and this is usually common on newer tech, a lot of govt stuff stays on old tech for so long for stability concerns that just aren't a problem on simplier designs.

Intel is still making some brand new 28nm chips for the US govt on contract for LGA 1851 lol

[ebon marlin]

I got a 2x16gb 6000cl36 kit since it was 90€ I'll manually tune it when I can get my am5 boards fixed up

[ebon marlin]

Jesus lmao

[stark spear]

And I think iirc most people should not got above like CL34 and ideal should be 30 or 32

[buoyant bridge]

its for power control stuff. AMD moving too fast is why AMD is not allowed at all on critical infastructure in most states

dosen't matter if the new 0.8nm intel chips will be better in every way and the current gen 7nm(?) chips are better in every way theres weird inconsistentcy things that won't even matter to home users but can mean a LOT on critical stuff so the 28nm chips stick around

[stark spear]

Yeah that makes sense

All I’ve heard about DDR6 so far is around double the bandwidth

[buoyant bridge]

DDR6 is still like 2-3 years away ain't it?

[stark spear]

Which in theory sounds cool but like how much faster will RAM he before we need more bandwidth

[stark spear]

Someone the other day told me the spec is already finalised or something like that

[buoyant bridge]

I mean we run into more so voltage and controller issues than we do bandwidth issues rn and DDR5 has gone upto like 8600 in laptops

[stark spear]

But I still it’s a good 2 years before retail at least

[buoyant bridge]

we kinda already hit the speed limits for standard socketed RAM lol

[stark spear]

Yeah 8600 is stupidly high

[buoyant bridge]

my new laptop comes with 8600 afaik

[stark spear]

What the GiB/s on that

For copying

[buoyant bridge]

not sure haven't tested it

its a Thinkpad T14s G6 (AMD PRO)

got a really trade in for my Thinkpad with the 12900HK and 128GB DDR5 4800

[stark spear]

Bro what is your workload?

[buoyant bridge]

ima end up having to trade in the T14s again because it can ONLY run GAC windows

can't run LTSC, can't run linux
gonna have to get a intel model or a rare ass non PRO amd model

[stark spear]

What is GAC

[buoyant bridge]

General Avaliability Channel

[stark spear]

So like consumer generic Windows?

[buoyant bridge]

basically all windows versions except for LTSC and Education

[stark spear]

Yep right

[buoyant bridge]

(in this case atleast because they all share bootloader MOK keys excluding those 2)

[stark spear]

Microsoft is really testing how much they can screw up windows rn

[buoyant bridge]

this isnt even a windows thing this is an thing AMD requires

[stark spear]

Yeah Im more referring to all the update nonsense wit things breaking etc stupid bugs

[buoyant bridge]

all PCs with CPUs starting with Ryzen 5000 from the PRO brands have to enforce secure boot and disable MOK key enrollments, starting with 7000 OEMs can't even decide the keys they come with.

this effectively FORCES them to run Windows or paid RHEL

[gleaming rose]

Ubuntu also supports the Microsoft keys

as does fedora

[buoyant bridge]

they use the same one as LTSC, I've tried installing Ubuntu it throws a secure boot error.

[stark spear]

Have you actually bent playing Minecraft for 60 hours or just left it open?

[gleaming rose]

Suse and LM too

[buoyant bridge]

nah afking a lot

[gleaming rose]

Debian too

[stark spear]

I was going to say bros grinding like Gregtech or something

[buoyant bridge]

they don't share the Windows MOK Key they use the Microsoft UEFI Security Certificate which is seperate from GAC windows.

[gleaming rose]

wdym same one as LTSC

[buoyant bridge]

these AMD pro systems don't get the Microsoft UEFi Security Certifcate one they JUST get the GAC windows one

[gleaming rose]

huh

[stark spear]

Im a little confused as to why this all matters?

What is the issue at hand

[buoyant bridge]

LTSC uses MUEFISC which is what various linux distros use too

microsoft has another UEFI security certifcate that ONLY works for GAC windows and not linux

[buoyant bridge]

can't install linux on AMD pro devices.

like its not possible at all on newish ones

[stark spear]

Ohh because of secure boots signing correct so the keys?

[buoyant bridge]

mhm, and secure boot can't be turned off on them either.

[stark spear]

Thats actually crazy stupid

[buoyant bridge]

Lenovo used to have a special contract so thinkpads could still enroll MOK keys AND have a pro cpu but it expired right before Ryzen 8000 so even thinkpads can't now.

[stark spear]

So Im assuming this happens because they just don’t see the point including signing for Linux on these CPUs because they don’t really care

[buoyant bridge]

no its that they can't sign for other OSes

[stark spear]

Yeah

[buoyant bridge]

the OEM isn't allowed to load other MOK keys.

[stark spear]

That’s what I mean they only really sign for Windows correct

[buoyant bridge]

well the paid version of RHEL is there too

[raw olive]

hello guys kinda off topic but anyone from serbia here? im having a trip soon, i need to know about current weather situation and shit so i can pack properly

[stark spear]

But aren’t a lot of Linux Distros signed on OEMs by default

[stark spear]

Weather App / Website……

[buoyant bridge]

actually excluding the HP Elite laptops all of the systems this applies to come with the Microsoft UEFI Certifcate so they are already signed for most linux distros with inbuilt secure boot support (which covers a LOT) on the intel and non pro AMD models

[raw olive]

insufficient/inaccurate, need boots on ground, wife is extra sensitive

[stark spear]

pain

[buoyant bridge]

too lazy to go find microsoft's page on this rn but basically linux distros use the last 2 while windows can use all 4

[stark spear]

So why can’t you boot Ubuntu I think you mentioned earlier

[buoyant bridge]

the AMD pro models don't have the one that allows third party OSes

they only have the one that can boot MS Windows and they have a seperate one for the PAID verison of RHEL

[stark spear]

But why….

Don’t they have that certificate or whatever

What makes AMD Pro devices any different

[buoyant bridge]

its been really obvious AMD has been trying to make its buisness PCs not go into the used market

and AMD PRO is the buisness line of Ryzen and Threadrippers

they also lock socketed CPUs to motherboards on the PRO stuff lol

[stark spear]

Right so they are essentially Gatekeeping

[buoyant bridge]

like you can't take a AM5 or AM4 Ryzen PRO cpu out of a board and put it into the EXACT same board because they have efuses that blow on first boot locking that CPU to the board it was installed for permantly (this is called PSB)

the AM5 ones are also fucking vendor locked

[stark spear]

Ok ok wait

The his sounds suspiciously stupid

[buoyant bridge]

its genuinely just them trying to kill the used market off

[stark spear]

Are you sure this is true I swear people have switched thread rippers amongst many boards

[buoyant bridge]

buisness PCs make up a large part of the used market, thats why its so easy to find cheap intel ones but not AMD

[buoyant bridge]

it only affects PRO cpus

like the 7990 can be swapped but not the 7995WX

[stark spear]

Are all threadrippers considered Pro or no?

[buoyant bridge]

not anymore it was like that for one generation

[stark spear]

Ok no I see

That really is so scummy though

Blowing a fuse binding a CPU to a boar has to bet he most like stupid thing I’ve heard companies do

[buoyant bridge]

there was some rare "unlocked" ones made for gigabyte/asus DIY kits that you can find used from that generation but they still are vendor locked to gigabyte/asus boards

[stark spear]

Ok so then my next question is how more performant are “Pro” CPUs

[buoyant bridge]

they're just regular X/G series cpus but with some extra security features

like the normal X and G series CPUs are able to do it too just currently AMD doesn't make use of it

[stark spear]

Damn

And people pay for these “extra security features”

[buoyant bridge]

they did it like this because buisnesses will only buy systems with OOBM and to get OOBM on AMD you need a PRO CPU and Chipset which means you HAVE to buy OEM stuff from the pro lines which does this

and thus the buisnesses can't sell these systems off when they're done with them

[buoyant bridge]

they also only released their best APUs for the PRO line rn

like you can get the same exact APU thats in the rog ally but its PRO line only

[stark spear]

Of course they did..

[buoyant bridge]

buisnesses do and when they retire these systems in 2-3 years they can't go on the used market like the intel counterparts can

[stark spear]

OOBM being what Out of Box M????

[buoyant bridge]

out of band management

basically bios tracking and management remotely

[stark spear]

Oh ohhhh so kinda like when pro intel cpu devices are enrolled with ME?

[buoyant bridge]

esentially yeah, to get the network connected version of ME you need a vpro cpu which is intel's equiv of AMD pro

the only cool feature you get at all with the AMD pro cpus they dont offer normally is you can reinstall windows/rhel from the internet without any download media or OS on the computer

(but vpro has this too for windows/rhel/ubuntu)

[stark spear]

So is the board they were originally installed in still okay for other CPUs or is it also bound to the previous CPU?

[buoyant bridge]

not quite, the boards for AMD pro stuff will only accept AMD pro stuff

starting with Ryzen 7000 they won't even accept standard ram

[stark spear]

This whole AMD pro line sounds hella snot consumer so far

[buoyant bridge]

the main point of it is force buisnesses to buy it and kill the used market by not having it be flooded 2-3 years after the gen is released

[stark spear]

I never knew any of this stuff before, I knew AMD had Pro line CPUs

[crude osprey]

What's more worth it for a laptop? OLED or Touchscreen?

I've found two laptops I like but I don't know which to get 😭

[raw olive]

depends on what youre gonna use it for

[steel umbra]

I'm really disappointed with qd-oled issues

[crude osprey]

School work, creative work, gaming, etc. oh and also social media

I've ended up at the point of deciding between a Dell 16 Plus & Asus Vivobook S16

[raw olive]

depends if youre actually gonna make use of the touchscreen

[steel umbra]

tbh, the purple tint and reflections are worse than my expectations

[raw olive]

get a gaming laptop and a used&abused ahh ipad with funny pen for school

[stark spear]

Personally I actually don’t see the appeal of a touchscreen at all like it just makes your display dirty and you have to clean it more often

[steel umbra]

i'm now a semi matte woled shill