tech-chat-1

[hexed tapir]

I swear Amazon removed key word searching for customer product reviews on the mobile app too, you just get an AI summary that says "many people found the fan to be calm and quiet" and I'm like great show me the comments you pulled that from

[tulip sparrow]

Yeah amazon shopping has gone downhill honestly thanks to bloody Ai

[random junco]

do you guys genuinely think AI will replace backend/frontend developers? i dont think AI is consistent in coding and does often mess up mistakes but im curious to see if that would be the case in a decade or two.

concerned for the future of my (future) children

[tulip sparrow]

Microsoft is already using AI to code WIndows 11 and yeah

[random junco]

fully?

[tulip sparrow]

the number 30% has been thrown around

So no not fully but more then a quarter apparently

[random junco]

as time progresses thats definitely gonna increase

[tulip sparrow]

We have "vibe" coders now as it is

[random junco]

me

[random spoke]

I just got done watching the latest LTT video, and I can't help but wonder which laptop Linus is using. I love the way it looks!

Any ideas?

[hexed tapir]

https://www.pcguide.com/news/windows-10-loses-support-today-and-microsoft-recently-broke-one-of-its-upgrade-tools/ I believe it

[tulip sparrow]

Don't forget the recent issue with SSDS

[random junco]

these terms are so new. i code myself but ask chatgpt/other models for advice on organization, ideas, and tweaks. would that even be considered vibe coding

[limpid heath]

yo im moving and looking for a nice surrond sound system for my room, idk if it matters but it is on the larger side and high ceiling , budget of 300 idm second hand but preferably refurbed or new

[limpid ivy]

Looks to be an HP EliteBook X G1a or G1i

[tulip sparrow]

All these newer MAJOR W11 updates have been problematic in some way shape or form so yeah

[random junco]

#audio-tech full of smarties

[limpid heath]

didnt see that ty

[hexed tapir]

I tried to get my parents r5 3400g supported for 11 but after I update the mobo bios i can't enter said bios

[wheat torrent]

this is max graphics? it looks like shit

[hexed tapir]

So I did the 1 year security update and leaving that problem for future me, haha get fucked 2026 cooper

[deep musk]

Buying this https://a.co/d/exoiKcr (and sas drives on serverpartdeal) for my student local with our annual budget (5k CAD per year (or session, not 100% sure))

[random junco]

i removed the ssd of my old pc (undergoing an upgrade, hasnt had a cpu/gpu for a few months) to put it in my server and use it as a cache drive. it booted from the ssd by accident (forgot to clear) and i realised... my windows 11 was running on an i3 6100

i3 6100 itself doesnt have windows 11 support but it didnt complain

[deep musk]

And am gonna build it a custom enclosure too reduce noises

[random spoke]

Thank you! I'm going to look into those

[stray portal]

I mean is that a problem

Like ik ai coding is bad and it does stupid stuff but as long as it works I think it's fine

[random junco]

lack of jobs will be a problem

[frigid blade]

Lack of jobs?

[random junco]

whats the confusion

every operating system has been coded by humans

humans whose jobs were to code the os

[fringe prairie]

some omnibook 5/7/x/ultra
or elitebook g1a/g1i my guess

[limpid ivy]

oh yea the omnibooks

I forget those exist.

[random junco]

i wonder whos paying like 15 x more for the same length of flight

[frigid blade]

Someone who needs those 15 minutes

[tired bear]

its elitebook

i got several units at work

[ocean axle]

different time of day, different service level?

[random junco]

same economy level flight at the exact same departure

[ocean axle]

wtf?

weird

[tired bear]

1st class gets off first

[random junco]

arrival is probably going to be the same due to waiting for air control and stuff

idk i suck at plane knowledge

been to like 4 countries though but i was young

[random gyro]

Got my ram going with am5 is this a good kit?

[fringe prairie]

awesome sauce

[exotic valley]

unpopular opinion: web applications & software are generally more optimized on Windows 11 compared to MacOS

[gritty panther]

it doesnt say the timings

[random gyro]

Cl 30

[gritty panther]

it's very good.

[random gyro]

Good spec

🔥

Is it easy to update your bios?

I need to with this mobo

[gritty panther]

yea just don't have a power outage

you just need a usb stick

[random gyro]

Ok I’ll try lll

[random gyro]

any required spec

[gritty panther]

I have an Asrock murderboard. I'm not on the latest BIOS but I feel like it's not worth it to update just yet

[ocean axle]

web applications ... are ... more optimized
that implies that they are at all in the first place

[gritty panther]

even usb 2.0 is fine tbh

the bios file is just a few megabytes

[random gyro]

Ok I’m getting an gigabyte aours elite b850

[gritty panther]

yea just don't get Asrock

<-- Asrock owner lol

you don't want the headache. not a good feeling

[random gyro]

Ok do I have to worry about bricking my pc

[gritty panther]

as long as there's no power outage in the middle of the update you'll be fine

so risk is very minimal.

[random gyro]

Ok thx

[gritty panther]

just don't do it when dogs/kids are running around near the power outlet or something lel

[random gyro]

Ok I’ll make sure my morbidly obese cat doesn’t try to eat the power cord (she’s eaten a live charger before)

[gritty panther]

ive never bricked a motherboard before but bios updates still make me nervous

no moving/breathing when it's updating

[restive sail]

This is gonna be a fun 2.5 hr project

[frigid blade]

razor blade, bendy bendy

[restive sail]

Already on it

Gonna try a plastic one from my 3d printer first

Wasn't nearly as bad as it looked

[jaunty apex]

https://tenor.com/view/bendy-wobbely-michael-rosen-michael-rosen-gif-17116172

[restive sail]

I had the cooler already cranked and trying to post before I realized.

[hollow coral]

considering ur either gonna screw this up within an hour or spend 2.5 hours trying to fix pins id say just freestyle it with whateever

[restive sail]

I had to fix a few, then it realigned the rest when I installed it

[restive sail]

Yeah. That's about how it goes anytime I touch anything smaller than the tip of a pen. I can't count the amount of 201 caps I've shorted trying to mod chip my switch.

Confidence can get you into a lot of places. Including very tight places you DO NOT belong in and cannot get out of

[restive sail]

Heyyyyy

[jaunty apex]

Nice

[restive sail]

All this because my noctua cooler's fan died. :/

How good is noctua support?

[jaunty apex]

Some of the best from what I've heard from others

[restive sail]

Alr. I'll probably file a claim with them. I had never heard anything good or bad about them so i wasn't sure.

[glacial violet]

Hopefully soon I'll be getting an SSD to use as a primary drive

[random gyro]

🫡

[lofty raft]

I can literally see the bottleneck

[clear canyon]

an rtx card with a 2600?

how well do they work together?

ah a 2060

[clear canyon]

this does not tell me much

[lofty raft]

I think it is more than 22%

[clear canyon]

dont follow bottle neck stuff

[fringe prairie]

bottleneck percentage is stupid

[clear canyon]

they are not accurate

[lofty raft]

I know I know

[glacial violet]

Yeah it's sad, but it's what I have to work with

[lofty raft]

Just buy something a little newer

[glacial violet]

Considering I'm mainly held back by a HDD, I have no clue how well they're working together

[glacial violet]

Broke

[clear canyon]

wdym held back, once what ever ur doing loads, its not the issue anymore

[glacial violet]

Then again my main "PC" is an Alienware rn

[glacial violet]

When trying to play bigger games of course it becomes an issue

[clear canyon]

wdym by bigger games

what games

[hexed tapir]

It is a PC personal computer

[lofty raft]

12GB 1333 RAM
It's a freaking Frankensteins monster haha

[lofty raft]

He took it too personal 😉

[glacial violet]

Multiple Battlefields

You have to think, this is a HDD from 2011, it's not going to spin quickly

[clear canyon]

they had 7200rpm hard drives then

[glacial violet]

Weirdly has 2 4 gig sticks and 2 w gig sticks

[glacial violet]

This wasn't meant for gaming so I'm pretty sure it's a lower speed

[clear canyon]

to be fair, ur on an an old system lol. I wouldnt play any multiplayer games thats AAA

[glacial violet]

Fair enough, I've mainly been playing house flipper and games similar to that

[clear canyon]

yeah its good for that

as load times shouldnt affect you much

[lofty raft]

Better as 4+8GB 😉

[upbeat orbit]

Anyone got any idea why my 9 key just decided to stop working? It works on bios and on my pin but anywhere else it just registers but doesn’t type it

[clear canyon]

no

which 9 key

are you on a 100% keyboard

[upbeat orbit]

Yeah numpad 9 works fine

[clear canyon]

is numlock on

[upbeat orbit]

I can turn it on and off, has no effect on the issue

[clear canyon]

try a different USB port

[upbeat orbit]

Still nothing

[clear canyon]

idk then

try a different keyboard

[lofty raft]

Factory settings reset your keyboard

[upbeat orbit]

I should note it’s on a laptop and the laptops 9 isn’t working either

But both register

[restive sail]

no remapping software or anything installed?

[upbeat orbit]

Nope

[lofty raft]

Some shortcut thing

[upbeat orbit]

I use the laptop for work and that’s it

[clear canyon]

try booting into safe mode and see if it works

[upbeat orbit]

Alright

Works now

So it’s definitely a software issue?

[lofty raft]

Yap

What did you install or updated lastly?

[upbeat orbit]

Windows that’s it

[lofty raft]

Try other OS

[upbeat orbit]

Last thing I did was transfer my LES’s out of my pay onto a email, I noticed the key not working when typing my cac pin

[south arrow]

When payday hits but its not a friday

Feels wrong

[gritty panther]

dont use bottleneck calculators please

[south arrow]

Lol

[gritty panther]

I honestly think they confuse people more than actually help them

[south arrow]

Fables a good game

I am not but hopefully your teams winning speedy del

[gritty panther]

you're fast. dunno how you spotted it. I deleted it in 0.5 seconds. xsend

[south arrow]

Got a high lvl lurk

85% momo alive rn

15% they lirk elswhere these are the mysteries

Lol just read the bio thats just ironic

[swift moss]

google engineers really inspiring confidence in my naming conventions

[south arrow]

Seems like confident code ones piers can clearly pickup anytime

[swift moss]

😭

next level obfuscation for a text editor

didn't know google docs uses canvases to "draw" text

[lofty raft]

I don't use it. But 2060 with i7 2600 triggered me 😂

[south arrow]

Wonder if jawa is alive

Haven't seen them in a few days

Hmm @mortal jackal been a month thats crazy. I hope youre well

[swift moss]

guys i need some writing advice

what sounds better,

I am but an afterthought or I am an afterthought

?

I can give some context if yall want

[south arrow]

The first is more so enjoyable to me buttttt the second is more direct

The context of a narrator the first but if a person is saying it maybe the second

[swift moss]

i can send line before to give context, it's supposed to be sharp, because my time is shrinking to say what i wanted, that's kinda the context

so basically

I am shrinking from your life.
I am a beggar
of attention.
I am but an afterthought --
forgotten, left aside

ok here 😁

i'm probably gonna swap this with a metaphor anyways for something that's left aside but that's later

[south arrow]

For that one id have to leave for you to interpret. Both certainly fit

[swift moss]

yeah i hope to swap it out with a metaphor because i think that's a lot of telling on my part

[south arrow]

Language can be fun

[swift moss]

obviously i'm an afterthought if i'm shrinking from her life, it's about unrequited love

[swift moss]

so yeah metaphor would be funner ☺️

[swift moss]

GOD all the things I come up with are corny asf

https://tenor.com/view/angry-thiago-mad-angry-fist-emoji-gif-17761307

no amount of depressing music is helping with the thought process 🥀

[sharp hazel]

anybody know how to search for good ram kits? pcpartpicker only has like 4 options for 4x32gb kits of ddr5. and amazon just shows me things that are completely not 4x32gb kits.

not too concerned with speed or RGB, just looking for white+cheap+huge capacity. rgb is a bonus, maybe.

[swift moss]

OH SHIT
You unplugged my life support @south arrow that kinda slaps

[gritty panther]

never go 4 sticks. they dont go too fast

2 sticks is the meta

[mortal jackal]

Hey!
I’ve been around, just busy IRL so less chatty in the public channels. Appreciate you thinking of me! Hope you’re well too.

[sharp hazel]

but i need capacity, can i get 128gb+ in 2 sticks? like i said i dont care about speed. i need capacity for renders.

[gritty panther]

yes but prices really suck right now

maybe getting a 2 sticks (96gb) is the best

[sharp hazel]

honestly if i could id get 256gb but i have found 0 4x64gb kits

[south arrow]

Always looking out

[gritty panther]

OPENAI got everything /jk

96gb 6400 cl32 kits used to be $290

I think they're $400+ now. yikes

[sharp hazel]

433 for the cheapest, 510 for one that works in my build.

[gritty panther]

96gb kit is $433-510?

[sharp hazel]

no 2x64gb kit

[gritty panther]

errrr they said it's gonna get worse

Im not sure man. do it? lol

[sharp hazel]

cost is not a factor, i just want most capacity out of my 4 slots since threadripper isnt an option for me.

[gritty panther]

we're back to launch DDR5 prices.

[gritty panther]

4 sticks work but dont expect them to do 6000mt/s

I think it'll work somewhere around 4800mt/s

could be higher. I dont know a lot of people that do 4 sticks with AM5

[night island]

is anyone here knowledgeable about display port cables?

[sharp hazel]

if its above 4000 its fatser than what ive got now so

[gritty panther]

I remember watching a LTT video about cables

tldr: get amazonbasics

cheap and good

[sharp hazel]

plug in, if working, cable good, if not working, cable bad.

[night island]

i just want to know if the cable i just bought will be reliable

[gritty panther]

LTT bought fancy equipment to test displayport and hdmi cables

amazonbasics passed with flying colors

if you bought a different brand; only one way to find out

[sharp hazel]

yeah i been using them pretty frequently, they have so many sizes and lngths its great.

[night island]

https://www.microconnectors.com/vesa-certified-displayport-1-4-cable-with-latch i got this one, i asked chat gpt and it said that the specs matched up with the vesa standards

[gritty panther]

I trust LTT. they said amazonbasics were good. I've honestly never had issues with them

[gritty panther]

only one way to find out.jpeg

good luck!

[sharp hazel]

if its VESA certified its fine.

[night island]

the reason im asking is that i went onto the vesa website and the displayport.org website and i couldnt find the cable anywhere on it

i have a 180hz 1080p monitor and im worried about image issues

i mean it does say it can go up to 8k at 60hz so i dont think i should be too worried right?

[gritty panther]

you'll be fine. 1080p 180hz doesnt even need that much bandwith

id be worried if it was 4k@120 or higher

1080p 180hz? hell nah

[night island]

i probably should be fine

[stark kiln]

Why is my wifi so ass 😭

[night island]

t mobile

[stark kiln]

It's not that bad rn it's usually at 5mbps

[swift moss]

was the only way into heaven```

https://tenor.com/view/alice-in-wonderland-rabbit-time-all-roads-lead-to-rome-rorb-gif-16960488214235607997

all roads lead to rome not heaven guys

[stark kiln]

Rn it's at .20 megabits per second

Wtf now it's at 80mbps

[quasi moat]

spiderman 2

This game looks insane on a 5090

[swift moss]

thought that was just a slingy thingy game

where you just vaulted around and did stuff

[stark kiln]

What in the name of delusional is that

[quasi moat]

I guess they upgraded

Disregard upper right panel bleed

[swift moss]

hmm

i love emoticons so much though

[hexed tapir]

Why is your ping 100

[versed ferry]

[swift moss]

HAHAHAHA

o7 to you comrade

partner-in-emoticon

[snow inlet]

what to look for in a AIO360 mm under 200?

[lofty raft]

Arctic Liquid Freezer III PRO 360

[hushed tapir]

I think this is a fair price 😂

[dusk patio]

bro I saw one today that was like "was worth $4000 new" meanwhile it was a 4th gen i7 and 16GB of DDR3, no GPU even listed 💀

So many marketplace sellers are just delulu

or they just want you to engage idk

[sharp hazel]

for some reaosn people thing 7900xtx is worth nearly 2000$ sill.

[gritty panther]

I honestly would just get a Thermalright AIO with the built in screen

they're so cheap and so cool.

[snow inlet]

GIGABYTE X870E AORUS PRO ICE
Unfortunately, ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III Pro is incompatible with this motherboard.

is it true or any work around

[snow inlet]

GIGABYTE X870E AORUS PRO ICE
Unfortunately, ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III Pro is incompatible with this motherboard.

[gritty panther]

who knows. there's other options

[hushed tapir]

It never was. It was $1000 msrp 😂

[snow inlet]

i checked their compatibility

[gritty panther]

hard to compete with Thermalright tbh

$78 and it's cute with all the goofy features

you can put any video or gif on the screen. makes the PC unique and doesnt cost anything

[snow inlet]

facts thanks

[random gyro]

hmmm

[gritty panther]

really hard to compete with thermalright

they have their own factory in china afaik

they have the capacity to release a bunch of coolers in just a few months. impressive stuff

[snow inlet]

ahh makes sense

[gritty panther]

Im kinda blown away with how cheap their goofy accessories are.

7" IPS screen for $37 in this economy?

[lofty raft]

What makes you think of?

[late pelican]

im thinking about getting this. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0FPM4JK1X/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=A32B9TAI3MS38X&th=1 Anyone got any ideas on ways to mount it ? i was thinking something like hotglue to the under side of my gpu but not sure if that would block airflow

[snow inlet]

i checked there website for compatibility, and that mobo is with cpu bundle

[lofty raft]

And?

[ivory mountain]

yeah they sent me 3 of their aios they were solid but the v1 frozen notte had pump issues and they all died

[tulip sparrow]

Live Action Alice was something

[snow inlet]

and the list has an compatibility

[swift moss]

gave us the incedible meme ❤️

[neon sapphire]

can someone see if my pc is good

[snow inlet]

with an Big X

[gritty panther]

hopefully they fixed it already. they have the capacity to do it

[lofty raft]

That doesn't mean anything. Trust, it's compatible

[tulip sparrow]

I have seen 15.6" 1080p IPS screens be as low as sub $50

[snow inlet]

ohh you sure, im not trynna jank it😂

[gritty panther]

I actually got sent one for free for no reason by Arzopa

[snow inlet]

i mean I trust you

[neon sapphire]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-eurus-ruby-gaming-desktop-geforce-rtx-5080-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-32gb-ddr5-1tb-pcie-ssd-er9800x3d50805-black/p/N82E16883360785 is this good?

[tulip sparrow]

lol

[gritty panther]

I wonder how much they cost in the factory lol

[ivory mountain]

they have in their V2 model

[tulip sparrow]

My current portable 15.6" monitor is a viewsonic

[tulip sparrow]

Cant be much to be honestly

[lofty raft]

ALF III has 2 options to connect with the motherboard, first for lazy bastardos with just one cable and second with 3 cables for normalos

[gritty panther]

Arzopa saw a picture of my PC with a tablet using as a third monitor. offered to send a 16" 1080p 144hz IPS for free. only a fool would say no. I have no use for it but free is free

[tulip sparrow]

lol

Yeah currently using my portable monitor as my secondary screen on my main desktop since the table is to small for my actual 24" secondary screen

[snow inlet]

a bit overpriced

[gritty panther]

I actually used it for a while on my main system but got rid of it recently, my table is too small. I got the fold 7 and I've been using it as a third monitor instead. it's actually big enough for discord and youtube music. wifi7 makes it feel very low latency too. 3D printed a qi charging stand for it.

[tulip sparrow]

Portable monitor market exploded in late 2018

[lofty raft]

The only thing that is probably not compatible with is the Gigabyte bling bling software. But nobody uses it anyways

[gritty panther]

that's what I figured. I bet they were giving it away to everyone like candy

probably nota big deal. just wanted pictures and exposure

[tulip sparrow]

I prefer a usb connection to hook my tablet up to my monitor

I use an old android app that isn't aviable anymore apparently

[gritty panther]

I use spacedesk. works great on android and most importantly it's free

[lofty raft]

Hell nah

[gritty panther]

wifi7 was the secret sauce. 120hz and very low latency

[tulip sparrow]

https://easynlight.oqupie.com/portal/2247/article/52929 since I have have had crap wifi thanks to the long list of wifi around us constantly lol

[gritty panther]

nothing beats wired

[tulip sparrow]

USb connection was limited to Ios/Mac OSX for so bloody long

it took forever to find a program capable of using USB for android/windows

[random gyro]

interesting

[formal sonnet]

Ah yes, good old DatronicSoft. I also used SpaceDesk until I bought Lenovo / Motorola devices. Now I use their Smart Connect software. https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/software/smart-connect/
The only downside to this (as with other wireless screensharing software) is that your devices need to be "discoverable" to each other. If your phone / tablet are connected to a different network than your computer (or you're using a Public WiFi network with Client Isolation enabled) you can't connect the devices.

[gritty panther]

it works amazing. it was good enough that I got rid of my portable monitor that's wired

[tulip sparrow]

To the person (people?) I was talking to earlier lol

[gritty panther]

less is more sometimes. my table is small. the extra space is nice

[cold skiff]

People hating on Microsoft using their software for years, benefiting from it. World is just a place of kids with hatred and no appreciation in their hearts.

[gritty panther]

people just love to complain 😄

the alternative is Linux which is shittier errr nvm it's better sorry linux boys

does the 9950x3d even work properly on linux? not sure if it has the schedulers for it

[cold skiff]

It should do. Scheduling isn’t new for Linux

In the modern era both platforms, heck include macOS. All 3 do things well.

[gritty panther]

sigh. I mean does it know the difference between the CCD with a 3D v cache and the one without 3d v cache

if I was a betting man. Id say no

[cold skiff]

Kids just don’t what it was like in the 80s and 90s. Fortunately I only had the early 90s but software lasted longer then. I got to experience and tinker with what th 80s was like.

Give a kid today a PC and expect them to boot into dos and run their games. Would be fun to see how long it takes

[gritty panther]

PC gaming isnt for kids anymore. they cant afford it

it's for older guys like us that have real adult money lol

most kids are more than happy with their phone games

[ivory mountain]

im 17 u jerk

[gritty panther]

Im pretty sure I wasn't talking to you but hey what's up

https://tenor.com/view/jayz-handshake-salute-bruh-gif-5357623

[ivory mountain]

u said kids cant afford pc gaming but im a kid and i can 💔

also nothing just finna go to bed

[frigid blade]

i think this is for the most part just untrue

If you go used, you can build some pretty powerful rigs for not a lot

[gritty panther]

not you guys tho. LTT kids are nerds errr cooler

I honestly don't get the appeal of most mobile games

[frigid blade]

Not even about that, it only took me a few months of work to earn enough to build my first computer, and it was a pretty shitty job of cleaning up on a job site

[gritty panther]

but it's what the kids like these days

[frigid blade]

Is it? Maybe before becoming a teen

[haughty compass]

hey so my friend is trying to enable secure boot, but his pc requires him to disable csm and reboot to enable secure boot, but when csm is disabled he cant boot into bios. when he resets his cmos, it renables csm and its a loop

[ivory mountain]

mobile gaming sucks

[frigid blade]

teen and up I usually see console or PC already

[gritty panther]

I have ZERO games on my phone. they're just battery hogs

[ivory mountain]

i have clash royale, ultimate golf, and retro bowl

[frigid blade]

I stopped playing, really easy to get addicted to microtransactions

[gritty panther]

I am happy to say I've never played a Gacha game in my life

[sinful cobalt]

the kids these days are more likely to just stick to shit like roblox, valorant, minecraft and fortnite or smth

[gritty panther]

#proud

[haughty compass]

how can we fix this paradox

[sinful cobalt]

a simple 16g ram 3600 and like a 2060 is enough for them

[gritty panther]

Im too cheap to get scammed by games that are pay to win.

[ivory mountain]

im f2p on zenless and i got miyabi and my life is complete now

[ivory mountain]

ask it nicely itll work trust

[gritty panther]

Oh yea I installed the horse game (umamusume) on my phone and steam. I'm too lazy to play it. I just don't get mobile games

[rare briar]

Anyone else having issues logging into a microsoft account? I reset my email and have now reset my password three times, and it will not allow me to login with the freshly reset password

[sinful cobalt]

If i ever have kids im gonna introduce them to peak games like expedition 33, its absolute cinema and im not stopping the glaze

[real quiver]

Is truenas generally the best free nas software or is there something else I should consider

[gritty panther]

I bought Prototype 1 and 2 on steam the other day. it was on sale. I've been having a blast with it

older games kinda hit different. I got both for $5. runs great on the Steam Deck maxed at 5w

[random gyro]

lol

[tawny lava]

is this a good surge protector to mount underneath a standing desk

[random gyro]

looks like a fire hazard

[sinful cobalt]

maybe
depends on what ur gonna plug in tho
and what its rated for

[tawny lava]

4000 joules to be mounted under a standing desk for a PC setup

[sinful cobalt]

Do you need that many ports?

[real quiver]

I think you should plug space heaters into every port

[tawny lava]

probably 6 at most but looking for that expandability incase i add stuff in the future

[sinful cobalt]

you dont need 22

just get like 10 ports or smth

a standing desk is gonna only use 1

[tawny lava]

i found their 10 version has pretty decent reviews

[sinful cobalt]

assuming standing desk, PC, double monitor, and a charger, you only use like 5

you said 6 at most so i highly doubt you need like 3 times the ports

[real quiver]

Would it be a bad idea to use a partition on the boot drive of a zfs deployment as a cache for the other drives

I'm guessing yes

[sinful cobalt]

yeah

its a shit idea

[versed ferry]

Discord in light mode is the best

Look at this beauty

[random gyro]

that's illegal

now im blinded and you just commited a crime

[versed ferry]

It's even more bright in person.

It's beautiful isn't it?

I'm on a 55in HDR OLED

In a dark room

[sonic stream]

uhmmm is it normal that my gpu usage rate goes to 100% when i run and game and it lags for like 5 seconds every 10 sec interval when my laptop is unplugged from the charger?

[silver heron]

Guys

Anyone hear about this brand

[random gyro]

you want to be blind

[low abyss]

Pls suggest a good gen 4 ssd under 5000inr from amazon india

[supple dune]

can someone help me in tech support please

[real quiver]

It just pains me to have unused storage

[sinful cobalt]

typically you want like 20% free space

[real quiver]

It's going to be like 80% free space

[formal sonnet]

I think you need more AC outlets.

[formal sonnet]

No but seriously, buy one with enough outlets for the number of devices you have now, plus 2-4 extra. There's no point in overdoing it, as your household circuit can only handle so much anyway. I've read good reviews of TROND brand, but ... as with many brands on Amazon, you get what you pay for. I tend to only buy surge protectors that offer some kind of connected device warranty, and have a customer service department that actually responds.

[real quiver]

Is truenas the go to free nas software or am I living under a rock

[sinful cobalt]

Power outlet for Home, Office, Dorm, Gaming Room and Fire all at once ✅

[formal sonnet]

It tends to be what lots of people choose when they want something relatively easy to setup and tinker with.

[real quiver]

I just wanted to make sure they didn't make decisions like plex

[formal sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-still-time-mr-grooberson-paul-rudd-ghostbusters-afterlife-we-have-enough-time-gif-22500292

[real quiver]

I just realized I got all these drives and went all the way to micro center and back but forgot to buy any sata cables

I guess I can at least get truenas running

But I will have no drives

😭

[ivory mountain]

im crying this kid actually thinks im cheating

[pale flint]

hell nah🙏🙏

[versed ferry]

I am going to hack discord and permanently delete dark mode. EVERYONE WILL BE ONE WITH THE LIGHT!

[pale flint]

mods exist

🥰

no one is gonna use discord in light mode

[pale flint]

nice cheating 😡

[ivory mountain]

cheting*

[pale flint]

ah yes

thats the same exact thing cs2 kids say when i 1v5 them with awp

[ivory mountain]

i wanna play cs2 or valo rn but its 2am

[pale flint]

"he headsot me with shotgun" 😡

[pale flint]

🙏🙏🙏

[ivory mountain]

just waiting till the 1st so i can sell this stupid ass AK idk why i even bought it

[pale flint]

cs2 is full of russian kids in my region

[pale flint]

market cooked

🤣🙏

[ivory mountain]

factory new ice coaled AK

[pale flint]

how much

[ivory mountain]

i bought it for 16 selling for 20 after i realized that i dont need to be buying cosmetics rn

[pale flint]

i have skins, charms and 1 music kit nearly worth 10 euros?

[ivory mountain]

my valo acc is like $100 over 3 years

[pale flint]

i need ak and m4a1 statrack

they kind expensive so i will biy them next month

should reach about 4 euros for both

[ivory mountain]

i want a knife but im not spending a ps5 on a video game knife

[pale flint]

i buy cheap ass skins

[ivory mountain]

ion blame u

[pale flint]

you can

tradeup if you manage to find cheap

red skins

covert rarity?

but they expensive as hell now cuz volvo cooked market

[ivory mountain]

yeah

[pale flint]

lmao

i dont need a knife

[ivory mountain]

i want a purple one

[pale flint]

i got 40+ zeus kills

idk why im grinding zeus kills

[pale flint]

they are still cheap

i aanted danger zone awp it is i guess? but its 5 euros

totally wrong, its

[ivory mountain]

if i buy 5 field tested covert items and trade up will it still be field tested with the new item or will it be a random exterior

[weak osprey]

that was 2 months ago

[calm idol]

its based on what you put in. dont know the exact chances though

[agile stag]

i came back crazy i traded a working lower end laptop for a "dead" better one and it was previously worked on and alas I found the power button disconnected

[pale flint]

field tested

[agile stag]

now i have a fancy laptop for cheap

[pale flint]

first you could get a knife for 80 euros

tradeup isnt that good

knives are cheaper now

just buy one

last i checked covert rarity items were like 30 euros each

[proud cosmos]

Call of duty Black ops 6 is free

Now

Thats crazy

[cold skiff]

Is it really crazy?

Or does it just show the state of throw away consumeristic game culture from a big studio?

[blissful mica]

Anything I can do different for cable management here?

[gritty panther]

bro stop cooking

🔥

[blissful mica]

Been a few months since I put together this build but I just rewired today because it was a bit of a mess

[gritty panther]

good job

[blissful mica]

Thx I feel like those weird wrinkly fan cables are a real pain to manage

Also cpu pwr is tucked behind the ssd tray

Also for the gpu power connecter I feel like the cables being routed like that is putting stress on the connector if that matters

[pale flint]

is tuf gaming tuff in 2025?

[random gyro]

sup

[blissful mica]

pretty good

[pale flint]

mmhm

[blissful mica]

I would say tuf is like top 1/3 of brands honestly

[gritty panther]

TUF = budget

[random gyro]

i have XFX

[pale flint]

tuff

[blissful mica]

prime is budget

[gritty panther]

I thought prime was budget. I was wrong

[gritty panther]

Prime is for "professionals" according to ASUS

TUF is the budget segment

[blissful mica]

yeah no asus is kind of wrong

[gritty panther]

dont ask me. ASUS decided lol.

[blissful mica]

In terms of performance its prime -> tuf -> rog

prime is good but it doesnt have the OC and RGB that tuf and rog have

[gritty panther]

that's what I thought. common sense right?

[sinful cobalt]

proart being a reskinned prime this gen:

[gritty panther]

some guy from another server showed me an ASUS picture it's like a pyramid. TUF in the bottom lol

[random gyro]

ye amd

[pale flint]

no amd

[gritty panther]

Im trying to find it lol hmmm

[pale flint]

i no amd

[blissful mica]

yeah what are they on

[random gyro]

si amd

[pale flint]

ryzen > amd

[random gyro]

i have radeon rx 9060XT 16gb

[pale flint]

no no no

[random gyro]

and ryzen 5 7600x3d

[pale flint]

i have rtx i5 2090xtx

[blissful mica]

Honestly PCCooler AIOs are slept on

if you can get around the fact that they are a chinese run company they make solid products

[random gyro]

what about 5090 ti

[blissful mica]

doesnt exist

[pale flint]

good

[random gyro]

4090 ti?

[pale flint]

i will tell my opinions on this on 30feb 2026

[gritty panther]

maybe it was just a bad graphic or ASUS being ASUS 😄

[blissful mica]

Doesnt exist

[sinful cobalt]

rn the order goes from prime>TUF>Proart>Strix>Astral

[random gyro]

3090 ti?

[sinful cobalt]

proart is a reskinned prime with a VC
Strix is limited to 5070Ti

[blissful mica]

Its keeping the gaming ones separate

Also why is there a separate level for strix lol

[sinful cobalt]

dont believe the asus chart lmao

asus sucks at their own rating

[gritty panther]

TUF Gaming (Entry/first time builders)
Prime (Professionals/all around)

wth does that mean ASUS?

[sinful cobalt]

it doesnt mean anything cuz its asus

[gritty panther]

that's what I figured

😆

[sinful cobalt]

ASUS stands for full of shit (FOS)

[blissful mica]

Basically tuf is overclocked and has some rgb, prime is normally not overclocked as much and comes in a plain colour

[gritty panther]

I'm sure your explanation makes sense. but I'm asking about ASUS' interpretation lol

[blissful mica]

yeah its not very good

I’m not a first time builder and I also wouldnt call a 5080 entry level

[sinful cobalt]

if we’re talking GPUs the Prime is SFF whilst TUF is like in the 3 slot area

[gritty panther]

9070 XT Prime isn't SFF at all

[pale flint]

🐒🤳

[gritty panther]

even has PTM which makes it a little fancy

[blissful mica]

Depending on the gpu yes. My tuf 5080 blocks both full sized pcie slots on my motherboard and blocks 4-5 expansion slots

[sinful cobalt]

its 2.5 slot which some ITX cases fit lmao

[gritty panther]

making sense of ASUS naming isn't smart

😆

my 4090 is a big boy. it literally covered ALL the pci-e slots

[blissful mica]

Yeah 5080 does too

[blissful mica]

“2 slot” ✌️

They could make it a 3 slot for another screw for stability

[normal maple]

Can someone help me set up my GPU and CPU fan curves? I am using Fan Control. I am in an sff case and I also want the 2 top exhaust fans to depend on both CPU and GPU temps.

[sinful cobalt]

isnt that the tuf bruh

[blissful mica]

Yeah

Oh you meant the proart

[blissful mica]

Do you have a specific software preference

[normal maple]

I am using Fan Control

[blissful mica]

Can that controll all of your fans?

[normal maple]

Yes

[sinful cobalt]

im referring to the prime

[normal maple]

Maybe a video call so you can see my screen?

[sinful cobalt]

proart this gen is a reskinned prime with a VC

[blissful mica]

I can’t right now unfortunately

[normal maple]

Ok

[blissful mica]

I think fan control has some fan curves already does it?

[normal maple]

Yes, but I don't know what values to use.

[blissful mica]

what does it show up like

[normal maple]

Here are my options. Right now I am using auto for both CPU and GPU. I'm using the maximum of the curves for the case fans. It seems way too loud

[blissful mica]

I would go to graph

[grim moon]

Maximum of the curves in what regard?

[blissful mica]

I would assume theres a few presets when you select auto

[normal maple]

This is the default graph. It is the same for both GPU and CPU.

[blissful mica]

Yeah that straight diagonal line is not ideal

That means the fans are constantly speeding up and slowing down within that temperature range which can be more annoying than a slightly higher speed

[normal maple]

I can add more points, I just don't know what to set the points to.

[blissful mica]

If you want it to be quieter I would try something like this

Obviously I don’t know how cool or hot your pc runs but generally this is a solid curve for quieter builds

[normal maple]

Same graph for CPU it different?

[blissful mica]

Oh its gpu I didn’t see that

Use this one for CPU but not GPU

[normal maple]

Which CPU temp? I think Tctl/Tdie?

[blissful mica]

Tctl

[normal maple]

Any recommendations for the 5070ti?

[blissful mica]

I would say keep the fans very low or off below 40 degrees because that means its probably not being used. 40-70 degrees I would do a diagonal line going up or maybe a cuve of some kind. 80-100 degrees the fans should be almost maxed

This will change depending on your model as well

[sinful cobalt]

just keep ur fans stock or mod it to be quiet

[blissful mica]

Yeah

I would see what temperature your gpu is at when under 0% load and keep the fans off until it reaches that temperature (as long as its not over like 50 degrees)

[sinful cobalt]

all 5070ti models keep the card cool anyway

[blissful mica]

my gpu fans are off until 45 degrees

[normal maple]

Is there a way to see the default fan curve?

[blissful mica]

Bios I think

should be there

[normal maple]

For the gpu

[blissful mica]

I know msi afterburner shows that if you have it

[real quiver]

I got truenas running and hoped I could just setup the pool using a USB hard drive enclosure

I, in fact, could not

It doesn't give truenas the serial for each drive and truenas thinks they have identical serials

[random gyro]

Sup

[eager totem]

Does anyone know of a good place to get data recovery done in Colorado?

[gusty wagon]

That looks like nvidia stocks

[grim moon]

You could technically take it to a best buy and they can send it out to a data recovery center. Rather expensive but data recovery usually is.

[eager totem]

Okay, how about UbreakIFix do they have a good rep for data recovery?

[blissful mica]

nvidia employees who joined before 2021 are all millionaires from their stocks alone

Stock has gone up 15x

Which means a base level computer engineer who joines before 2021 would have 1.9 million in stocks alone if they kept them all

a base level 💔

High level employees would have tens or hundreds of millions in stocks

And its even more significant for those who joined before 2019

The stock has gone uo 40x since then

50% of NVIDIA employees have a net worth of over $25 million

[sinful cobalt]

the other 50%:

[blissful mica]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/employees-joined-nvidia-5-years-160012281.html

[blissful mica]

Over 80% of nvidia employees are millionaires

[sinful cobalt]

take a joke smh

[blissful mica]

i know it was a joke

its just insane

[hexed tapir]

If they sell stocks now and the AI bubble doesn't pop

[blissful mica]

why would they care about gamers when they can sell server racks full of $20,000 gpus

[blissful mica]

Yeah

only thing is that the market for those jobs is very rough

[empty quartz]

:3’ing

[hexed tapir]

They made an infinite money loop hack. They invest in openai then openAI buys their gpus with that money

[blissful mica]

Lol

then openai grows and gets more money from users and needs more gpus

Best part is jensen huang’s linkedin

[hexed tapir]

Then outside investors see that nvidia's doing great in sales and invest in Nvidia

[blissful mica]

They have a monopoly on high performance computing

[hexed tapir]

Fucking cuda man

[blissful mica]

Imagine what they could do if they became a gaming only company and made a series of gpus will full force

[sinful cobalt]

“Look at Jensen Huang! He went from a dishwasher to founding Nvidia, and presently is now operating a trillionaire company”

So give up, u aint pulling shit against these giants

[blissful mica]

yeah its interesting how these companies start

[hexed tapir]

And how far away they stray from their roots

[dapper dragon]

Hell yea

[empty quartz]

Lemme guess, quad core

[dapper dragon]

8

[empty quartz]

4c8t? /j

[dapper dragon]

8c16t

[empty quartz]

Rookie

[dapper dragon]

[empty quartz]

Ignore the ram

[dapper dragon]

Why do you have so much fkin ram

[empty quartz]

Why dont you have alot of ram?

[dapper dragon]

No way you end up using all that in what I’m assuming is not your main build lol

Server chip an all

[empty quartz]

Its my workstation

[hexed tapir]

More RAM than my phone storage

[leaden gust]

who is the better rx9070xt xfx mercury or sapphire nitro+

[empty quartz]

Doesnt matter

[leaden gust]

i just got the nitro but im debating on returning it

[empty quartz]

Just stay with the nitro then

[leaden gust]

people are feeding my 12vhpwr anxiety

[hexed tapir]

The nitro plus does have the melty connector

[leaden gust]

yea

should i return it

but ive read that it isnt that big of an issue since it doesnt require that mucj power and has fuses

[hexed tapir]

If it melts just RMA it

[sinful cobalt]

if you wanna go through the effort sure but this connector failure is very rare to begin with

you can always just RMA if it happens lmao

[dapper dragon]

Lord

[leaden gust]

what if its out of warranty

[hexed tapir]

Wait am I reading that right? Your workstation's connected by Wi-Fi?

[leaden gust]

i plan to keep it for 5 years but it only has one for 2

[hexed tapir]

I doubt it will die after 2 years from the melted connector. It would probably happen before that

[leaden gust]

can u decide for me if i refund it and get the xfx merxury instead or take the risk and keep it

[hexed tapir]

I'll just use if you've already have it

[leaden gust]

alright ill do that then

[hexed tapir]

I would have bought the cheaper pulse but its a hassle to return a card and you might need to pay restock fee

[hexed tapir]

And just make sure the plug is fully seated and you dont have a big bend in the cable and it should be fine

[leaden gust]

i just gotta bring it back to their store by car and everything should be fine

no extra costs except the fuel

[leaden gust]

alright ill do that

thanks for soothing my anxiety

[hexed tapir]

You probably have a better chance of dying in a car crash returning it, then the card dying by melting itself

[tawny lava]

What is the best way to hide headphone wire and keyboard and xlr cable for standing desk setup

[last jasper]

wireless headphones / keyboard / mic

[plush wren]

or just route the cables nicely

[gilded harness]

wireless is the best option out there

routing does help a bit tho

i only have wired mouse rn

[sinful cobalt]

dedicated shelf for the 4090 box

[plush wren]

nice setup

[plush wren]

like a trophy

[sinful cobalt]

I kept my box on the ground b4 moving it and putting model kits on it xd

[topaz shale]

drill holes

or put your interface on the underside of your desk. i used doublesided tape and it sticks really well on the scarlet solo

[orchid trellis]

Whats a good cpu with a decent amount of pcie lanes? I dont need more than like 64

[zealous plover]

Is anything wrong with this power supply? https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/power-supplies/atx/107664-gp-p650g

[ebon marlin]

You're going to be looking at a threadripper then or a xeon

[ebon marlin]

No although 80$ for that isn't great

Oh wait it's aud

[zealous plover]

Yeah

[ebon marlin]

No info about in the spreadsheet but it should be fine

[zealous plover]

Should I pay the extra $2 https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/power-supplies/atx/91320-mag-a650bn

Yeah

[zealous plover]

Is it time to buy? https://www.scorptec.com.au/sc/8amFbGd

[pastel bobcat]

Damn I just found a 6900XT for the same price of a 9060XT 16GB... tempting, however I need a new PSU if thats the case

[solar moat]

KF568C34BBEA-16 why is this a expo kit

[rigid fjord]

because it's cl34

if it was cl40-46 it would be more to do with jedec

[stark kiln]

Im shocked by how my PC can run FS

[livid perch]

my plan for new home networking setup once i get the money for it, any thoughts?

[gusty wagon]

Oh

Your console is a kvm for your optiplex?

[charred sundial]

People piss me off so bad

[livid perch]

game console lol

[gusty wagon]

I see

Which one is it, is it like a ps4 or like nintendo switch?

[livid perch]

ps4, probably should've specified on the diagram lol

[gusty wagon]

Nice

I've never had a playstation

[livid perch]

right now im switching between having my tv and ps4 plugged in to ethernet lol

[gusty wagon]

Why not use both

[charred sundial]

Why do people think that if an AIO leaks and they immediately catch it their whole pc is fucked

[livid perch]

only one cable there, hence why am gonna buy a switch for the living room

[gusty wagon]

I see

The switch does need a dock to connect to ethernet tho

[mint umbra]

Am I only one who never uses the fkeys

[grizzled frost]

depends on what it leaks onto

[wet ember]

Ew, why do YouTubers recommend this mouse? Well honestly only the productivity Andys do

Weights like 141 grams LOL

[mint umbra]

It's not a gaming mouse what you expecting lol

Like the g502 is like 100g pretty sure

[wet ember]

Yeah I use a G502 and G403 currently

[grizzled frost]

yet you complain about weight

[mint umbra]

Ppl care to much about noise weight

Mouse*

[grizzled frost]

The general public doesn't care enough

[wet ember]

I'm fine with either mouse but I want a quieter click

[mint umbra]

It doesn't really matter

[grizzled frost]

Especially for people using a mouse all day long, it gets tiring on the wrist

[mint umbra]

Bruh who cares

[mint umbra]

Bro how weak are your wrists

[grizzled frost]

It's not about wrist strength, moving 140g around vs 40g you're gonna notice a difference

[wet ember]

-quiet click
-not too heavy
-infinite scroll
-scroll wheel side buttons
-some extra buttons

[mint umbra]

If using a mouse that's like like 20g heavier makes a difference there's a problem lmao

[grizzled frost]

and when you're moving it around 8 hours a day 5 days a week, it matters

[mint umbra]

You should use your arm not your wrists to prevent wrist injury

[grizzled frost]

everyone who has ever used a mouse uses a combination of both

[mint umbra]

I use a 10 dollar Logitech mouse

[grizzled frost]

cool?

[mint umbra]

At work

[mint umbra]

Most movements should be with your arm

[grizzled frost]

Most large movements*

[mint umbra]

Only small micro adjustment should be with wrist and with adjustments that small weight won't matter that much

Your making it a bigger deal than it is

[calm idol]

mf has never worked with coworkers and has never seen the average mouse sense of people

[grizzled frost]

It doesn't make a huge difference, but it matters more than the general population thinks

[ebon marlin]

Whats up with people having a heavy mouse having a superiority complex

[mint umbra]

Superiority complex?

[ebon marlin]

Yes

[grizzled frost]

A superiority complex is a belief in one's own superiority to others, often used as a defense mechanism to mask underlying feelings of insecurity, inferiority, or low self-esteem.

[ebon marlin]

Heavy mouse suck if you're gaming and that's a fact and has actually been professionally researched by professionals

[mint umbra]

That's some copuim

[grizzled frost]

that ai summary pulled no punches

[mint umbra]

Your using ai gross

Ai is the death of human creativity

[ebon marlin]

Once again superiority complex showing again

[mint umbra]

I don't even use a heavy mouse brother

[grizzled frost]

A superiority complex is a belief that your abilities or accomplishments are somehow dramatically better than other people’s.
WebMD
A superiority complex is a behavior that suggests a person believes they’re somehow superior to others.
Healthline
an exaggerated opinion of oneself
Merriam-Webster
Better?

[mint umbra]

Better than ai yes

[grizzled frost]

Using an AI for low level definitions isn't what's hurting the world

[mint umbra]

Ai is also harmful to the environment

[grizzled frost]

Which will occur regardless of the use of consumers

Consumer use of AI isn't what's damaging the environment

[mint umbra]

Ai is a mistake

[ebon marlin]

Why is pal trying to change the subject now to something irrelevant

[mint umbra]

Mate I use a super light 2 I don't have a heavy mouse

Like idk what else you want

[ebon marlin]

Yo mama

[plush wren]

so are factories and many other things

using electricity is also polluting the environment so you should stop using it

[grizzled frost]

the environment is kinda fucked no matter what we do

and the consumer is able to do almost nothing

it would have to be a decision made by corporations

[stark kiln]

Good morning everyone

[flat cobalt]

lol anyone want 128gb of desktop ddr4 in exchange for 64gb of laptop ddr4, i have like 3tb of ddr4 big boy sticks from an old project and am trying to specc out a little thinkcentre

[mint umbra]

Ai isnt essential electricity is

[plush wren]

you can live without electricity ?

[flat cobalt]

Not in this day and age

[mint umbra]

Maybe 20 years ago

[plush wren]

its possible

[grizzled frost]

very little is

[flat cobalt]

work, life, income management, paying bills, everything requires power and electronics now to function in society

[grizzled frost]

you could say that about 90% of the internet

[mint umbra]

Pretty much everything is going digital these days

[flat cobalt]

you are talking about no longer functioning in society and leaving society to be a gremlin in the woods.

[grizzled frost]

the problem is how much electricity we use, it's how we produce that electricity

[plush wren]

sure

[flat cobalt]

Which is fine, you can go be a gremlin in the woods, but if you dont specifically want that, then its not a solution

[plush wren]

so its possible

[grizzled frost]

we need more nuclear, and we need it yesterday

[flat cobalt]

definitly

[mint umbra]

Nuclear is dangerous

No ty

[grizzled frost]

It is one of the safest forms of power generation

[flat cobalt]

and the most efficient

[mint umbra]

Chernobyl

[plush wren]

peak

[grizzled frost]

It is the safest form of power generation, second only to Solar

[plush wren]

this guy has to be ragebaiting

[grizzled frost]

This message just shows your ignorance on what happened at chernobyl

[mint umbra]

No I don't trust something that could fail from human error and millions would have to pay consequences

[flat cobalt]

a cool new biopic / documentary just came out about chernobyl, good watch, very educational

[grizzled frost]

it was an improperly built and improperly managed facility that blatantly ignored established safety regulations and actively exacerbated the situation through communist disinformation methods

[flat cobalt]

Everything weve built can fail from human error and cause untold destruction

[grizzled frost]

That is true for literally every form of power generation

Modern designs quite literally can't fail due to human error

[plush wren]

true for everything

[mint umbra]

I'm not trusting anything with anything that uses nuclear energy

[flat cobalt]

I can walk outside my house and cut a cable that isnt protected properly and cut off internet for new jersey for 7 hours

[grizzled frost]

So you're just extremely misinformed

[drifting urchin]

how true this is for pc

[plush wren]

are they not built cause theyre expensive or

[ebon marlin]

Nuclear is the best choice for energy

[grizzled frost]

They're only as expensive as they are due to regulation issues

[plush wren]

[flat cobalt]

they arent even expensive anymore

proportionally and the modern tech is way better

[grizzled frost]

nuclear is overregulated beyond the point of safety

[ebon marlin]

Nuclear is quite literally a clean energy source with zero emissions

[flat cobalt]

like flight ^

[grizzled frost]

There are less deaths per unit of power with Nuclear than even wind, or hydroelectric

and that includes Chernobyl

[ebon marlin]

Wind energy is probably one of the worst energy sources

[flat cobalt]

i knew a guy that fell off a wind turbine, that was really unfortunate

[drifting urchin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5MOatu5-DE

[flat cobalt]

yeah but its cool to see a field of big industrial turbines

[drifting urchin]

i dont fully trust nuclear power

[flat cobalt]

this is animation from 20 years ago

[mint umbra]

Nuclear if something goes wrong it's catastrophic

[ebon marlin]

Iirc Finland also has one of the biggest wind turbines

[grizzled frost]

Then you're misinformed

[flat cobalt]

not reality

[grizzled frost]

True for literally anything ever

[drifting urchin]

i.... just dont trust it, it has the propensity to go very bad

[mint umbra]

Not true

[grizzled frost]

What happens when Natural Gas leaks, or there's a drill platform leak, or an explosion at a fossil fuel plant

[drifting urchin]

did we learn NOTHING from chernobyl

[grizzled frost]

Chernobyl is part of the reason why nuclear is so safe today

[drifting urchin]

oh wait, were still cleaning that up

[gusty wagon]

Lol yeah

[ebon marlin]

We have much better technologies available now

[mint umbra]

If there's an issue with wind turbine it just collapse and maybe one or two ppl die with nuclear millions could be affected by radiation depending on where it is

[grizzled frost]

The cleanup operation is largely complete with Chernobyl, now they just babysit the Sarcophagus

[gusty wagon]

There were several abandoned turbines that pissed off the local wind elementals tho

[grizzled frost]

Wind can't produce enough power consistently enough to replace fossil fuels

Nuclear is the only environmentally friendly solution that can actually produce enough power

[fallow yacht]

people when they find out when you build stuff shitly it runs shit: 😮

[ebon marlin]

Wind turbines also aren't recyclable or renewable so after they're done they just get chucked in a landfill

[mint umbra]

Nuclear waste isn't environmental friendly

[ebon marlin]

It is?

It's literally clean energy with zero emissions

[grizzled frost]

Nuclear waste is a solved problem

[mint umbra]

They have to store it in like underground bunkers or some shit

[drifting urchin]

who'd have thought a nuclear reactor was so complicated?

[grizzled frost]

Would you rather pump Billions of Pounds of CO2 into the atmosphere, or produce so little nuclear waste that you can fit it inside a single football stadium

[ebon marlin]

Sounds great

[grizzled frost]

Also spent nuclear fuel can be recycled

[mint umbra]

Yeah and what happens if there is a accident when transporting it to said bunker

[grizzled frost]

You can literally hug the casks that spent nuclear fuel is stored in and receive less radiation from the fuel than you do form being in the sun

[fallow yacht]

then you hire specialists who know how to build that shit

[grizzled frost]

Good thing waste is stored onsite

[fallow yacht]

unless you like pocketing money

[drifting urchin]

sorry, i just dont trust nuclear.... well most things to be honest

[mint umbra]

Not always

[grizzled frost]

Also Spent fuel casks are designed to survive being hit by a train or a small missile

[drifting urchin]

i grew up to see chernobyl on tv and i played fallout games

all i ever need to know

[grizzled frost]

You'd have an easier time bombing normally than trying to damage a fuel cask

[fallow yacht]

chernobyl was made by incompetent people and video games aren't reality -- all clear

[ebon marlin]

Fallout is caused by a literal nuke atleast in Fallout 4

[fallow yacht]

when you build stuff shit it runs shit

[grizzled frost]

RBMK reactors can't legally be built today

[mint umbra]

I'm never going to trust nuclear with its dangers of radiation

[grizzled frost]

The dose you get from Nuclear power is so small that if it does anything, it's a net positive to your health

[fallow yacht]

you get radiation more from a banana than living next to a nuclear plant

[mint umbra]

Sure

[grizzled frost]

Radiation exposure at low levels causes hormesis, not damage

Low level radiation exposure reduces your chance of developing cancer

also coal power plants release more radiation into the environment than nuclear power ever will

[gusty wagon]

said the Sun

[grizzled frost]

Ultraviolet radiation, not Ionizing radiation

[mint umbra]

Nuclear is not safe enough

[gusty wagon]

i would've loved a demon core in my city, yes i totally do

[ebon marlin]

Nuclear is probably one of the safest energy sources out there

[grizzled frost]

It is the second most safe means of power production on the planet

[ebon marlin]

Eh close enough

[grizzled frost]

only slightly behind solar, and solar doesn't have the production capability to be sustainable

[mint umbra]

Even if there is 1% chance of a accident it's too much

[gusty wagon]

I though the first was fossil fuels

[grizzled frost]

Good thing there isn't a 1% chance of an accident

It's functionally 0

[mint umbra]

So if it's zero then it never should have happened before

[sinful cobalt]

eating uranium is way more effective than eating meals as per normal, everybody should give it a try

[grizzled frost]

There quite literally can't be a modern day chernobyl, it's not physically possible

[solar moat]

way more die form coal each year

[grizzled frost]

Ah yes, because science never advances and we're stuck in the USSR

[gusty wagon]

What about a fission reactor?

[cold skiff]

Wanna bet

[drifting urchin]

there's also the story of this bad boy

[grizzled frost]

You mean every nuclear reactor ever put into production?

[solar moat]

ah yes thats been around long time

[grizzled frost]

That has absolutely nothing to do with nuclear power

Not even the same material

[gusty wagon]

No, no, we have fusion reactors

[drifting urchin]

same result, radiation

[gusty wagon]

We need fission reactors

[solar moat]

fusion is joining of attoms
fission spliting of attoms

[austere fox]

Can someone help me disable the annoying nzxt sidetone?

[cold skiff]

Not all radiation is made equal

[grizzled frost]

You have it backwards, We have fission reactors, we're trying to make fusion reactors

[mint umbra]

Also Fukushima

[solar moat]

thats what all ones built so far use

[grizzled frost]

Which is an example of a potential nuclear disaster managed well

[solar moat]

fusion have been built but they take more power then make

[grizzled frost]

There was literally only a single death that could even potentially be attributed to radiation, and that death is highly contested

[gusty wagon]

Yeah and the amish use near-invisible nanotech obfuscation technology

[grizzled frost]

what are you waffling about

[cold skiff]

It seems to be a day for the crazies on discord

[mint umbra]

I'm not trusting anything with radiation

[cold skiff]

Good thing you’ve never used a microwave then

[mint umbra]

I'm not crazy I'm not trusting in things we shouldn't be messing with

[steel umbra]

It's nice of AOC they include steel screws instead of some cheap alloy ones but they're hard to screw in

[elder quarry]

yeah good

[grizzled frost]

So you would never get radiation therapy? or go through TSA? or use a microwave? Or walk outside? Or use a light bulb? Or use wifi?

[steel umbra]

Even when i perfectly align the thread

very hard to screw in

[mint umbra]

Not same kinda of radiation

[steel umbra]

It's stripping my screwdriver

[grizzled frost]

Exactly the same kind of radiation, eletromagnetic radiation

[elder quarry]

or banan

[mint umbra]

Micro wave is non-ionizing

[cold skiff]

Open up your microwave door. Hold the latch down with it open. Turn it on and see how it’s different and tell me

[grizzled frost]

Non-ionizing radiation can be more harmful than ionizing radiation

[cold skiff]

I’m asking you to do it as you believe it’s different. I’m not dumb enough to do it

[elder quarry]

have he touched light?

[fallow yacht]

as they say you're getting more radiation from a banana than living next to a power plant

[grizzled frost]

And vice versa, it is all about dose, and over what time scale

[gusty wagon]

We need more demon cores

[grizzled frost]

You get more radiation just existing than living next to a nuclear power plant

[cold skiff]

Just because it’s non-ionising doesn’t mean it won’t burn the fuck out of your face when you put it in the way

[mint umbra]

Untill there's a meltdown

[grizzled frost]

Which quite literally isn't possible today

[mint umbra]

Nothing is impossible

[cold skiff]

I mean that’s a lie

[grizzled frost]

So humans can fly?

[fallow yacht]

guys should i try openwrt

[cold skiff]

It is possible. It always will be possible. It’s just about how it happens if it does

[grizzled frost]

I can jump 5km in the air?

[steel umbra]

Cheapout and it may happen

[mint umbra]

Yeah with airplanes

[grizzled frost]

Unicorns and fairies are real?

[elder quarry]

yeah obv

[fallow yacht]

?

[cold skiff]

All it takes is one crazy fucking Russian soldier in Ukraine right now and they can meltdown those reactors they control

[elder quarry]

Sure!

[fallow yacht]

yeah cuz war is all about destruction, how shocking!

[mint umbra]

Comparing fairy tails to a reactor meltdown LMFAO

[grizzled frost]

Damocles you're incredibly uneducated on the topic, Which isn't your fault entirely, the fossil fuel industry has spent lots of money to propogandize you and the entire population of the developed world, and it very clearly has worked on you

[cold skiff]

It’s more about the fact Russians are in control of a nuclear facility in a country they give no shit about. If someone wanted to, they could.

[grizzled frost]

Equally likely in the modern day

[ebon marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[elder quarry]

I just wonder, is this true?

[fallow yacht]

no less than any power plant ever

[cold skiff]

Exactly