tech-chat-1

[true stirrup]

Just make sure it has decent VRM heatsinks

[swift moss]

rate the UI gang

[leaden gust]

b650 is cheaper but im worried that it doesnt have pcie5 for my gpu

[mental linden]

I’d go for the b850

[pale flint]

24 for the screwdriver alone

[mental linden]

yeah

[true stirrup]

The difference is completely negligible

[mental linden]

U look into the fanttik

[leaden gust]

i want the best performance from my gpu

[pale flint]

compatible with 4mm bits

requires batteries

[leaden gust]

@true stirrup should i buy the x870 or the b850

[pale flint]

eh

if the one you showed is chargable then go with that one

chinese brand btw

[mental linden]

Could u like send the one your talking abt lol

[mental linden]

And yeah if u looked into the link it’s chargeable

[pale flint]

i was talking about the ifixit precision electric screwdriver

[mental linden]

ahh

[pale flint]

check reviews

[mental linden]

I have lol

[pale flint]

if they'r good then thats fine

[mental linden]

this is something I thought u be doing as comparing to which is better in your opinion

[pale flint]

else look for trusted brand

[pale flint]

i have no experience in using electric screwdrivers

the one i have used was makita

for bigger bits

[mental linden]

Oh well not as in experience but just looking it up or like looking at the reviews for both lol

[pale flint]

hmm

[true stirrup]

If that B850 has a gen 5 slot for for that then

[leaden gust]

it doesnt but is the x870 worth 20 bucks extra? i mean it isnt anything too insane

and for god knows why reason x670 is more expensive than x870

[pale flint]

ts not mature content bro 😭😭

[leaden gust]

or this

[true stirrup]

Even a 5090 loses less than 1% performance going from PCIe gen 5 to gen 4
So if that B850 doesn't have a gen 5 slot you might as well go with B650 which is cheaper

[pale flint]

@mental linden yeah i think buy that one and if you dont like it, return it

[leaden gust]

isnt gen 5 mandatory on all b850s

[pale flint]

cant find varieties of them

[mental linden]

😭😭😭

[true stirrup]

No it isn't

[pale flint]

also tell me how it is so i could know as well

[mental linden]

Okay

I’ll probably buy it this week or next week

[leaden gust]

damn alright ill look better the next time so just to be clear a b850 or b650 with gen 5 or a x870

[pale flint]

goof

[true stirrup]

Do as you wish

[leaden gust]

alr thanks

[buoyant bridge]

is 181W the highest a 12900KF can use without OC or smth?

[thin plover]

you never knew what they were going to do with them

[pale flint]

that i can agree with

[high elm]

at intel default settings yea

there should be 2 profiles in the bios

“performance” and “extreme”

[rigid fjord]

nope, that can use around 250w before you think about power unlocking and OC

after that a 12900k can max out at 450w when fully power unlocked

[high elm]

depends intel has presets in the bios

performance is likely 181 PL2

and extreme is 250

[rigid fjord]

you can just use xtu when it comes to intel tbh

[high elm]

yea its an option

bios is still preferred though

[rigid fjord]

the only cpu i've seen to essentially come close into matching a 12900k in power draw is a power unlocked 11700k

[high elm]

oc is a rabbit hole though

[rigid fjord]

for sure

with amd the bios is your only choice, you can't use nor trust ryzen master

[high elm]

i’ve already rma’d a few 13900k’s so far

[high elm]

amd oc is easier imo

static voltage on my 3600 made it do 4.575ghz

didnt even need to touch anything else

[rigid fjord]

with pbo yeah, way easier, but also though there's no safe static voltage tbh

[high elm]

quick and easy oc

didnt wanna set adaptive

got the B450 + 3600 for $60 anyway

[native flame]

...

[rigid fjord]

do not show 3rd party key seller sites, also dumb way to give out your card details when microsoft offers you ways for it to be free

[stray portal]

Scam site

• there's some ways to get it free

Both office and windows

[thin plover]

where's the free thing again?

[rigid fjord]

microsoft documents

[native flame]

I didn't give my credit card info cuz I paid with my PayPal balance

But yeah since today I've cracked every Windows I owned but I wanted to test

[rigid fjord]

you've not cracked any version of windows, you can literally run it for free

[native flame]

Yeah but the fucking watermark bro

Lmao

[rigid fjord]

that's just the activation which is also free via microsoft

at this point, you're dumb if you use any third party site when it comes to windows/offices to pay for a key

[native flame]

I just wanted to test bro

I know better than that don't worry 💀

[rigid fjord]

doesn't look like it, also super dumb for showing this

[native flame]

Showing what

[rigid fjord]

did ya check your dm?

[rigid fjord]

the activator scripts that's using kms

[native flame]

What's Dumb about it...

[rigid fjord]

it's against ToS idiot

[stray portal]

AFAIK we can't say it here it's against the rules

[native flame]

I'm not an idiot I just forgot you monkey

[rigid fjord]

nope, you're clearly an idiot

[stray portal]

ur racist too wow so crazy

[native flame]

Oh sorry I didn't know you were the all mighty god 🫩🫩

[native flame]

What's racist about it...

[native flame]

Look at yourself in the mirror before speaking ok.

[rigid fjord]

i do, i also explained enough to you and explained the how to to someone else

[native flame]

Wtf is that doing here

[stray portal]

Some MASSIVE scripts that would be of GRAVE danger to you if you used them

so DO NOT search for them

[native flame]

Huh

[balmy hull]

what’s better new rx 9060 xt 16gb or used rx 6800 xt

[stray portal]

The new one

Better drivers, features and I think performance too

[lapis talon]

https://www.applegadgetsbd.com/product/lenovo-loq-15arp9-amd-ryzen-7-7435hs-gaming-laptop

How's this

A tiny bit bellow $1k USD

[thin plover]

xx50 gpu 💔

[lapis talon]

4060 or above is over $1300 USD

In my area

I personally don't want 4050s and have the right to criticise them as I use a decent desktop GPU myself 💀

[slim dragon]

Never Again fcking RGB

What the hell can possibly can make specific sectors of RGB to give different collor?

[lapis talon]

My hype for RGB in pc cases is slowly fading

[slim dragon]

Just don't

[lapis talon]

I'm going for a more subtle look now

[slim dragon]

Dont use RGB, too many cables to much hastle, then the case will get dirty and u will see the dust

[lapis talon]

Not really

[slim dragon]

Its a fucking head ache

[lapis talon]

I clean mine regularly and cables isn't really a problem

[stray portal]

My case is an

Xpg valor mesh

[slim dragon]

as much i love my PC

[stray portal]

It's clean and nice looking I like it

[slim dragon]

I will NEVER again use any RGB

[lapis talon]

Is that a fishtank or

[lapis talon]

Fully blacked out looks so good

[stray portal]

My system is a Ryzen 7 5700x and rx 7800xt but when I upgrade my GPU I might also do case swap since my current case is small. If I do a case swap I will also do a sleeper build

[lapis talon]

Mid tower case?

Or something smaller

[rigid fjord]

skip it tbh

[stray portal]

I'm not sure I want it to be atx but also fit a bigger gpu kinda without the case being too big

[lapis talon]

Can you find me something better than 💀

[slim dragon]

Rauko my good man , u still hanging around here? 👀

[lapis talon]

Ah

I got a mid tower case but

This guy barely fits in there

[slim dragon]

What gpu is this?

[lapis talon]

Nitro+ 9070 XT

[slim dragon]

That's huge

Or at least it looks huge compared to the fans

God, I'm gonna rip out those fcking fans in a moment

[lapis talon]

💀💀

[slim dragon]

Those green sectors are giving me a headache

[lapis talon]

Better than what I had before

[lapis talon]

What the

[lapis talon]

That's a 240mm rad on top

[slim dragon]

3 years have almost passed already and fcking iCUE software is still shit

[lapis talon]

GPU is huge

[slim dragon]

480

[pale flint]

rgb is a headache in general

[lapis talon]

The old one is still better than the new

[lapis talon]

Your one?

420 or 480

[slim dragon]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1050099734938914936

My setup

Anyway , Yes, Fuck RGB and Fuck iCUE

now must figure out how to sort out those bloody sectors

any ideas?

[ionic peak]

Rgb?

[lapis talon]

Can't see it

[slim dragon]

well it's in battlestations , just search Fire Hazard in a Box.

[ionic peak]

Mars gaiming

Got one

Used it once

[sterile apex]

I have a small ITX system that stopped working. I suspect the (proprietary to the case) PSU has failed. The front panel led is still glowing but when I press the power button absolutely nothing happens after a one quarter spin of the cpu fan. Is there any easy way to confirm it's the PSU that is broken?

[ionic peak]

Sniff the psu

[sterile apex]

no bbq

[pale flint]

i have seen many psu's blow up

[ionic peak]

https://tenor.com/view/power-supply-psu-explodes-x-kom-gif-13279795578291244134

[slim dragon]

Voltmeter is your friend

[pale flint]

just a bit of smoke

[sterile apex]

i wouldn't know which of the many many pins to measure

[ionic peak]

Prob got silence boom

[sterile apex]

the psu also doesn't seem to have an on/off switch

[slim dragon]

the ones that go to motherboard ofc

[sterile apex]

from the cpu 4pin or the mobo longer one?

it came in the Inwin Chopin (stock picture)

[stray portal]

What gpu is that

[pale flint]

power man

[ionic peak]

A psu smol

[livid fern]

Flex

[gilded harness]

so i just wondering around and holy fuck

2020 what a fucking year

[latent pasture]

tf does microsoft think people use this for

[last mauve]

Isn't that a price of a 5080?

[pale flint]

bro wtf

"yo hop on we gotta chat with ai bot"

very interesting talk

👌

[gilded harness]

5080 is a lot cheaper

covid-19 is crazy

[ebon marlin]

What is up with glass mousepads and them having the cringiest or ugliest designs on them

Like 90% of glass mousepad designs are these

[grizzled frost]

people that care enough about their mousepad’s “performance” to sacrifice comfort are mostly degenerates

[ebon marlin]

I just want to replace my deskmat with something small

Glass mousepads looked interesting

[grizzled frost]

they’re just plain uncomfortable imo

[slim dragon]

Anyone familiar with RGB software?

[ionic peak]

Glass

[slim dragon]

Need help

[grizzled frost]

people really underestimate how much the little cushion of a mousepad helps with comfort

[grizzled frost]

https://dontasktoask.com

[latent pasture]

glass mousepad emergency shiv material

[magic mirage]

anyone know how to fix my webcam

[slim dragon]

My fcking RGB Fans started acting up , everything was fine until today , basically , the whole fan is shining in blue, EXCEPT 1/8th of it shines in green , on top of that iCUE wont detect the 7th fan that's not connected to commander pro

I tried changing the bloody iCUE RGB settings , but then again , there's this one sector that shines in a different color , any ideas how to fix that?

Pic for reference

[slim dragon]

and btw , this fan is not connected to the same port as the 3 on top/front nor can be detected by iCUE and yet all the fans have the same issue

[stone echo]

what the best thermal paste

[sinful cobalt]

https://www.tomshardware.com/best-picks/best-thermal-paste

[slim dragon]

Noctua

always and forever

[stone echo]

i was thinking Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Extreme

[grizzled frost]

That's not a thermal paste

That's Liquid Metal

[stone echo]

yea my bad

[grizzled frost]

Meaning you need something like the thermal grizzly sealing frame, it also requires reapplication after a while

[stone echo]

really

[round cloud]

hello

[stone echo]

hi

[round cloud]

synology sucks

what is the best out of the box experience in terms of a nas for OneDrive / Sharepoint like performance?

[grizzled frost]

Yes, otherwise the liquid metal will leak out and kill components

[round cloud]

Synology drive is a HOT MESS

[stone echo]

intresting

[stone echo]

did they not back track on that

[grizzled frost]

Imo, you're far better off building your own NAS

[stone echo]

100%

[grizzled frost]

it is incredibly simple to setup, and you will get far better value

Greater customizability as well

[round cloud]

no what i mean is, with Synology Drive Client.. if I apply permissions to a folder to someone, and then take those permissions away, a local copy of the file stays on the clients computer

or the fact that it took 3 hours for one user to see a file another newly created. one excel file.

[stone echo]

lol

custom it probs best

[round cloud]

i have a printer scanning via smb to the synology, in synology drive it takes sometimes 3-5 hours for a PDF to show up

ONE PDF!!!

[grizzled frost]

If you're adamant not to build your own NAS, i would look at reviews of specific NAS products, not just brands as a whole

[round cloud]

synology support: yea just use smb

[grizzled frost]

to be fair, SMB kinda sucks

[round cloud]

smb is pretty sick tbh

it's messy tho

[stone echo]

thats y we have FOSS, Free and Open-Source Software

[round cloud]

but what FOSS replaces onedrive ? nextcloud?

is nextcloud FAST? and is opening it to the enter safe ?

I have my own truenas at home, this is for a customer. looking for more of a drop in solution

[stone echo]

dont hahe to user nextcloud

[round cloud]

what are your suggestions ?

[stone echo]

ubiquiti has a nas

[round cloud]

i was looking at videos on those recently, i wish i saw them before i bought this thing

[grizzled frost]

just don't buy drives from ubiquiti, they're so expensive

[round cloud]

the synology it works nice and is easy to setup, but the little things kill it

[round cloud]

and they are just wd drives

[stone echo]

https://store.ui.com/us/en/products/unas-2 look clean

[round cloud]

it would have tied in so nice too

the network is a UCG Ultra and a 48 port poe

ubi switch

im not mad you're mad

[stone echo]

lol

[round cloud]

but aren't these like pretty new

[stone echo]

yea

[round cloud]

i did purchasing in May or so

[stone echo]

you could do cutom and use HexOS

@grizzled frost what the best noctua thermal past

and do they have a dark mode on there site

[slim dragon]

Fuck iCUE 🙂

[grizzled frost]

NT-H2

[stone echo]

thoughts on this list https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/nc8FRV

should i change anything

[grizzled frost]

what's it for

[stone echo]

gaming and work and a budget of 5k AUD

[grizzled frost]

is there a feature on the x870e that you need that isn't present on cheaper boards

[ebon marlin]

Only feature X870 has over something like a B650 is PCIE 5 lanes iirc

[grizzled frost]

USB 4 and usually >2.5g networking is the big ones for x870e

[stone echo]

i think the gen 5 m.2 and probly the usb heads cause i was thing of adding Lian Li UNI FAN SL Wireless LCD 51.45 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack

[ebon marlin]

I got 2.5g networking on my b550 lmao

2 thunderbolt 3 ports aswell

[grizzled frost]

**>**2.5g

thunderbolt 3 is also inferior to USB4

[ebon marlin]

B550 is old

[sullen oriole]

anyone here a controller expert

[grizzled frost]

https://dontasktoask.com

[ebon marlin]

But you can just get a 10g lan card for fairly cheap

[stone echo]

the usb headers i think and the gen 5 m.2

[drifting urchin]

rma mobo returns today, praying the operation was a success

[ebon marlin]

Nvm they're like 100 bucks jesus

[grizzled frost]

Only thing i can really complain about is the value of the PSU, AIO, and M.2

You could go as low as a 750w, though i'd go for something like an 850w

[stone echo]

the max internt that the isp will give us it 1gb or 500mb

[grizzled frost]

gen5x2 is the same interface speed as gen4x4

[drifting urchin]

mangled some pins (again) 3 times in total but one was on a board that holds an i3 2120 from like literal 2009 or somethin

[stone echo]

on M2_1 its a Gen5x4

[drifting urchin]

LGA is curse'd

[grizzled frost]

The drive itself is gen5x2

[drifting urchin]

thats all i have to say and need to say on that matter

[stone echo]

bru

[ebon marlin]

Which is just a gen4 ssd

But rebranded as gen5

[grizzled frost]

my main issue with gen5x2 is that if it ends up in a gen4 slot you get half the interface speed since it'll be stuck at gen4x2

[stone echo]

is there a good 4tb m.2 that is Gen5x4

[grizzled frost]

Do you need gen5x4

they're expensive, and produce a fuckload of heat

[drifting urchin]

gen 4 is good enough for the masses

[stone echo]

never mind then

[drifting urchin]

you dont NEED gen 5

[stone echo]

ok

[grizzled frost]

also australia has 230v don't they?

[drifting urchin]

what i've read is dram is a fairly important part of buying m.2's as well as total storage and if its a name brand or not

[stone echo]

yea

[drifting urchin]

that's how i would sort it if i had to

[grizzled frost]

so PSU efficiency is gonna be good no matter what, so why waste money on a platinum PSU

[ebon marlin]

Gen5 only useful if you're transferring 100gb+ files constantly

[stone echo]

ok

[stone echo]

with windose iso i might need to

[grizzled frost]

who the hell pays for a windows install

[drifting urchin]

gen 5 is for like, professional youtubers and video editors type people

[ebon marlin]

Windows iso is couple gb

3-5gb

[grizzled frost]

oh windows ISO, yeah it's <8gb

[rose stream]

Honestly, gen5x2 makes more sense, since that's literally just gen4x4 compressed into only two lanes bandwidth wise.

[stone echo]

no one in this chat

[grizzled frost]

Which is a bad thing, it means it's at best equal, but if it ends up in a non gen5 slot you now have a gen4x2 drive

[stone echo]

Who use ntlite to make the windose install bearable

[rose stream]

Strangely, a number of people do... Who have been in this chat and server before too.

[stone echo]

its usefull

[rose stream]

True.

[ebon marlin]

Isn't windows install already very simple

[grizzled frost]

i believe they mean like debloating the install

[ebon marlin]

Just get windows 11 pro workstation

[sick reef]

budget people doesn't care about B550 being old

[ebon marlin]

Comes pre-debloated

[stone echo]

yea and makeing it faster and skipping the online user

[drifting urchin]

when it comes to m.2 and ssd i pretty much only trust samsung and WD drives and seagate barracudas/exos for HDD spinning platter

[grizzled frost]

Make those budget saving changes, and see if you can swing a better NVIDIA GPU

[ebon marlin]

You can just use rufus for that

[drifting urchin]

i aint touchin that fikwot shit i seen on amazon

[sick reef]

me when iot ltsc

[grizzled frost]

samsung has some of the highest failure rates nowadays

[stone echo]

yea but ntlite you can remove app and do other things and presetup a local user

[drifting urchin]

ah, thats interesting, well, thats who i would trust first

[rose stream]

Well, at least Samsung was smart about it when they did this for one of their latest drives, having that fall back to x4 for gens 3 and 4 depending on what the board supports or has enabled.

[grizzled frost]

That's not how PCIE links work though

At that point you'd already have to have the PCIE gen5x4 link, so you'd just use that

there's no way to have both gen5x2 and gen4x4 without just having gen5x4

[ebon marlin]

You can already uninstall pretty much every single app without the use of 3rd party apps

[stone echo]

fair

thoughts on using Lian Li PW24-1W Strimer Wireless 24-PIN and Lian Li PW16081W Strimer Wireless 12+4

[ebon marlin]

Everytime I install windows I just uninstall 99% of Microsofts apps through control panel

[grizzled frost]

how often do you install windows

[sick reef]

why not iot ltsc instead of pro workstation

[stone echo]

i use BCUninstaller

[stone echo]

i work at a computer business

[ebon marlin]

Fairly often since I buy lots of tech

[grizzled frost]

overpriced garbage that most people won't benefit from

i buy lots of tech, but the vast majority of my computers run on linux

[ebon marlin]

Poop

[grizzled frost]

only thing that runs windows is my desktop

[sick reef]

prove it

[rose stream]

I'd assume that basically all they did with their storage controller was have it firmware limited to only use x2 for gen 5, then use all 4 for Gen 4/3, since yeah. You already have the physical connections, so there's no way to physically not use all of them unless two are then disabled in a specific mode.

[ebon marlin]

Only device that I own that runs on linux is my Steam Deck and my android phones

[grizzled frost]

so it's just samsung being greedy by pointlessly disabling functionality that already exists on the drive

[ebon marlin]

And my future game server soon

[junior valve]

nzxt

[ebon marlin]

It should arrive today

[sick reef]

i kept using iot ltsc, no thanks

[stone echo]

use pelican Panle

[junior valve]

why u left ztt

[sick reef]

drama about me

[round cloud]

your profile is wild

[junior valve]

what was it

[sick reef]

when i was posting nonsense shit

[ebon marlin]

It's normal

[junior valve]

i lwk do that all the time

[sick reef]

and i was annoying and weird

[round cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-gif-26262188

[junior valve]

what r some good nzxt products

[ebon marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/кот-кот-гадем-кот-крутой-gif-3270832292775664690

[rose stream]

I'd imagine another potential nerf is that the controller also is more limited hardware wise with weaker or just less microcontroller cores as well, which would limit full performance if they were using all four lanes anyway. The point of that drive lineup I'm basically mentioning was to be a cheaper and "more efficient" gen 5 consumer drive.

[junior valve]

they didnt ban you no?

[sick reef]

high ranked ppl are tired of me

[sick reef]

no

[rose stream]

So I imagine they did more than only just turn off lanes in firmware if we talk cost cutting.

[junior valve]

it cant be that bad

[distant frigate]

Ayyy I’m Russian too

[sick reef]

high chance of toxicity, drama, cyberbullying

[distant frigate]

Glad to see another Russian in this server

[junior valve]

notice how u are immediately greeted

[sick reef]

I regret mentioning same things, posting nonsense shit.

[junior valve]

i post the same gif 10 times a day

[ebon marlin]

Bro is having feelings of regret over a shitty discord server

[ionic peak]

Wat

Is happening

[drifting urchin]

no ragrets

[ebon marlin]

Bro might be too chronically online

[ionic peak]

Here

[sick reef]

we are different

[ionic peak]

You are not green

[sick reef]

regular*

[ebon marlin]

You are not bread

https://tenor.com/view/кот-кот-гадем-кот-крутой-gif-3270832292775664690

[sick reef]

greens are regulars

[junior valve]

emerald

[ebon marlin]

And bread role is sigmas

[distant frigate]

Awesome freaking performance

[ionic peak]

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-ninja-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-6467414812525449281

[sick reef]

crazy. much higher than upload speeds

[ionic peak]

Green better ngl

[ebon marlin]

I remember bread roles having access to image perms in public chat I wonder if green roles have access to that aswell

[sick reef]

@distant frigate are you using vpn to use discord and youtube on your iphone?

[distant frigate]

It’s 5G lol

I don’t expect symmetrical speeds on 5G unlike fiber

[sick reef]

i forgot to read about its t-mobile

i forgot you're traveling and living in another country

[opal bridge]

Hello, anyone know if 5600x will work fine with a 3070 but a 650w seasonic s12III?

[stark flicker]

it will work

[grizzled frost]

yes

[round cloud]

ye but gettin close

ish

[opal bridge]

I have a 3600 in the pc rn and havent had issues

[distant frigate]

Here’s my home internet

[sick reef]

i heard the formular air mesh g4 is equivalent to aerocool cs-107

[grizzled frost]

close ish to what

[distant frigate]

Much better upload speeds but it’s expected since it’s full fiber

[round cloud]

to how much total power the system will use

450-500 ish watts? maybe a bit higher

[opal bridge]

I have a 3600 in there rn and it works just fine

[sick reef]

both r top mounted psu cases with front panel fans

[round cloud]

550

[grizzled frost]

very much isn't close, 3070 only consumes 220w, 5600 being 88w

[round cloud]

yes i don't disagree but it's nice to have like 30% on the top for transient spikes

[grizzled frost]

so like 350w worst case scenario including other components

[opal bridge]

So ill be just fine?

[grizzled frost]

mhm

[ionic peak]

Ye speed

[round cloud]

some flavors of the 3070 can do 260w, and also drives, fans, mobo itself etc

650 is good tho it will work fine, i just prefer 700-750

[opal bridge]

I have a 1000w psu sitting in my house but its an unknown brand so id rather not use it over the seasonic

[round cloud]

yep use the seasonic

[grizzled frost]

fans are very low wattage, like less than 10w for your whole case worth of fans, drives are usually single digit watts too, mobo power draw isn't particularly heigh either

[round cloud]

it adds up

[opal bridge]

Also while i am here my 3070 runs at 80c+ when at 100% should i be worried?

[round cloud]

but i am not saying 650 watts isn't good it's fine

[grizzled frost]

doesn't add up to an additional 300-250w of power draw

[round cloud]

thats like the minimum

650w or better for a 3070 imo

[grizzled frost]

I'd say 550w would be the bare minimum

650w is plenty

[round cloud]

my bare minimum is not worry about it ever, never revisit a customer

[grizzled frost]

you don't get an extra 300w of power draw from misc case accessories

[opal bridge]

Anybody lol?

[round cloud]

what if you want a 5800x and a 3080ti

a psu is a more "timeless" computer component

[grizzled frost]

That's not what the system specs are

[round cloud]

it's performance doesn't increase or decrease fps

[ionic peak]

I want 5090 .
Mum says we have a 5090 at home

[grizzled frost]

It sounds like he already has the 650w PSU

[sick reef]

R9 290X2/390X2

[grizzled frost]

why would you buy another PSU now, just to potentially need another new one in future

[drifting urchin]

why you do this radeon

[grizzled frost]

better than the 12v-2x6 connector

[opal bridge]

I mean ill upgrade the gpu eventually so the psu is gonna be upgraded too

[round cloud]

iroh, my brother, 650w is fine.. relax your butthole. i just like more powa

[sick reef]

it was powercolor designing it

[ionic peak]

Ye 4 8 pin like 5090

[sick reef]

holy shit 4 of 8-pins, even better than 12vhpwr

[opal bridge]

Soo is my gpu too hot?

[grizzled frost]

on the upper end of normal

[round cloud]

you need to setup a fan curve

[drifting urchin]

i have 4070 normal and it only need a 8 pin connector

[round cloud]

i prefer 80c or below, 75 is my favourite number.

they say that 90c is ok but that's insane

[ionic peak]

I like 67

[round cloud]

very hot.

[ionic peak]

Hot like my döner

[grizzled frost]

thermal throttle point for the 3070 is 87c

[opal bridge]

I mean 81 82 like 84 is peak but thats while running a benchamrk

[grizzled frost]

anything below that is perfectly fine

[round cloud]

nada

[opal bridge]

In games its usually under 80c

[round cloud]

87 is too hot 85 is too hot

[drifting urchin]

when doom dark ages released 5600x went to 90 degrees first night due to bad coding

[grizzled frost]

Very much isn't, there's nothing wrong with temp in the 80s

[round cloud]

80 is good, 75 is awesome .. the cooler it is the more efficient it runs the less power it uses

[drifting urchin]

i know because the next day it had an update and no longer went past like 75c

[sick reef]

my r9 nano is under 70c at load

100% fanspeed

[round cloud]

anything north of like 85-86 is danger zone to me..

[sick reef]

itx powerhouse from 2015

[round cloud]

if the chip has to throttle something is not right

[opal bridge]

I could repaste it again lol

[round cloud]

no

fan curve nerd

[grizzled frost]

Not right, sure, but isn't dangerous in any way

[drifting urchin]

5600x must hate me

[opal bridge]

My hotspot is very high tho

[grizzled frost]

also 85-86 isn't thermal throttling

[drifting urchin]

meme i made about it

[grizzled frost]

what is "very high"

[opal bridge]

100+

[round cloud]

i said it's the danger zone

[drifting urchin]

100 = deado

[round cloud]

anything above that

[grizzled frost]

Danger zone implies danger, which there is none

[round cloud]

i don't accept

[grizzled frost]

Even at thermal throttle you won't be causing any damage

[opal bridge]

Thats hotspot tho

[grizzled frost]

That's the whole point of the thermal throttle limit

[round cloud]

iroh u don know nothin dawg

[opal bridge]

The whole card is 80

[round cloud]

have a good day i'm gonna get work done

pce ❤️

[grizzled frost]

What fan speed

[junior valve]

more than 110

[drifting urchin]

well, 100c is literally the point at which water (and most other things) melt or begin to break down

so, 100 is the limit for me

[sick reef]

seller tested furmark (76c default fanspeed)

[grizzled frost]

actually it's mostly just water that gets damaged at 100c

the reason other things get damaged at 100c is usually from the water in it boiling

[drifting urchin]

hard to beat the facts of science and such

based on proven math,

[grizzled frost]

there’s also lots of things that degrade at 40c

so would you consider 40c dangerous?

[junior valve]

allat to get beaten by a 780ti with 1/3 the power draw

[grizzled frost]

The point at which other things degrade isn’t a great measure for what is safe for electronics

though 100c is a good limit

[sick reef]

Titan Z:

[junior valve]

but would you trade you nano for a 980ti tho

[sick reef]

more recent radeon

nvidia sucks on linux distros

[round cloud]

one more chime before i leave, at the scale of things we are talking about, cannot be seen with the bare eye. the changes that temperature make are different. processors that run at 75c or less during their lifetime will outlive a chip regularly hitting 90c.

i have seen it

[junior valve]

rx6300 oem

[round cloud]

gpus as well fall under that category

[sick reef]

Atleast PowerColor, Sapphire and XFX has ITX-sized PCB for RX Vega 56.

[round cloud]

at 90c, you can begin to smell your computer

[junior valve]

why not reference?

[sick reef]

downgrade from r9 nano in performance

[sick reef]

blower cooling 💀

[junior valve]

more technology m stuff

[junior valve]

1 fan, basically the same as a nano

[drifting urchin]

usually around that on idle

[sick reef]

different shape

blower vs fan

[junior valve]

my windforce 970 gets to like 78-80c while running roblox with 3 fans at 1800rpm

[round cloud]

same

[sick reef]

the nano has fans, while reference vegas has blowers

[junior valve]

but they look cool

not cool but cool

[round cloud]

I had a Vega 64 that died pretty recently, reference design cooler

sick card when it was new, that blower design tho.. jeeze.. 300 watt card and it was HOT

JET ENGINE

[sick reef]

rx vega nano confirmed

[junior valve]

but when 40 series semi blower

[ionic peak]

Gimi the cpu

[round cloud]

chillen

[junior valve]

aio mod your nano

[sick reef]

no. the temps are fine

[round cloud]

sick card

[sick reef]

and normal

[junior valve]

it would look tuff

[round cloud]

I upgraded to a rtx 3060 ti. nice card and cheap

[sick reef]

just AIO the Sapphire Pulse RX Vega 56 for R9 Fury X looking like.

[junior valve]

its a 120 not 360

[sick reef]

damn

[junior valve]

you can mod it into a 420

[sick reef]

i don't think i can put R9 Nano cooling on Sapphire Pulse RX Vega 56, due to ITX looking PCB.

[junior valve]

if u want

[round cloud]

itx looking pcb lol

i like it

[solid quail]

New cpu

[sick reef]

xfx also has itx looking pcb for rx vega 56 and 64, the heatsink is bigger than pcb.

[round cloud]

how many cores? all. all the cores.

[sick reef]

16c/32t 2.6ghz

[solid quail]

Exactly! 😁

[solid quail]

3.1ghz all core

[round cloud]

18/36

[sick reef]

thats turboboost

[round cloud]

3.6 boost

[solid quail]

Max turbo 3.6, max all core turbo 3.1

[solid quail]

16. The non A is 18

[round cloud]

ahhh

[solid quail]

But with significantly lower all core boosts

[round cloud]

i see

[solid quail]

But I'm pairing it with my current high end motherboard so I can just remove the turbo time limit

[round cloud]

cheap too

[solid quail]

So effectively, 3.1ghz all core

[round cloud]

hell yeah, and you can help heat the house for winter

145 watts not too shabby

[solid quail]

Keep in mind, this is intel broadwell 5th gen so roughly around zen 2 IPC.

So this would perform like a zen 2 chip at 3.1ghz so not too shit

[sick reef]

the radeon vii has same power consumption as vega 64

[solid quail]

So performance wise this is a downclocked 3950x

[round cloud]

how much does power cost there

would it have not been more cost effective to get a used 5600x at that point lol

in the long run

[solid quail]

I think my current plan is 8cents/kwh

[round cloud]

jesus

[solid quail]

Yes but less performance

[round cloud]

really,

[solid quail]

Yes, the performance on this multi core wise is around i7 11700k

[round cloud]

wow... broadwell??

we really haven't come that far have we

[sick reef]

im figuring about how bigger or smaller is die size on vega 56 compared to r9 nano

[solid quail]

Broadwell was the first 14nm architecture.

[round cloud]

what metric do you use to judge performance

[true stirrup]

It's about the same +-1%

[solid quail]

So it's not even that anci3nt

[round cloud]

yep, broadwell was a huge change. i remember it vividly

[solid quail]

Multi core wise this CPU is slightly slower than the 5700x

I didn't go for the 5600x route because it would've taken around ten years with my usage to get back the money spent on new motherboard and the cpu

[round cloud]

but you could find a used one on facebook board ram cpu for like 250

[solid quail]

Ram I got already as my system has 32GB of ddr4

[true stirrup]

Even less than that

[round cloud]

i just bought a full pc, 16gb ram, 5600x, 3060ti, ssds for 500 bucks

keep in mind i live far away so import was extra

[solid quail]

Am4 boards are getting quite expensive in my country unless buying an entire pc

[round cloud]

new ones for sure

[solid quail]

Used ones too

[round cloud]

gotta hunt the dealz

[solid quail]

Especially the boards with the i/o and pcie I need for my peripherals

[round cloud]

true

[solid quail]

As my current motherboard has a ton of pcie and sata, which is needed for my drives

[round cloud]

that is a huge factor

[solid quail]

Although I am going to be retiring my old spinning rust drives

[round cloud]

it's the worst thing about modern pc's, the pci-e lanes

[solid quail]

Got some nvme:s lying around

[opal bridge]

I think like 1400 1500rpm

[solid quail]

And this motherboard has 12 sata and 7 pcie slots

Full size

Or 4 were x16 and 3 were x8 iirc

This is the ancient relic pc in question. Been serving me well for some years

I just wanted more cpu performance and the xeon for 40€ was a steal

I mainly play lightweight games so the GPU is fine. It's a 1070. If I need slightly more performance, I have a 1080 lying around.

[ionic peak]

Rgb

[solid quail]

Rgb was the craze back then. Doesn't look all that old

[ionic peak]

You are old

[solid quail]

The cables are a mess because the case is absolutely awful

[ionic peak]

Mayo

[solid quail]

Tempted to get a fractal case. The north xl or pop air xl seem rather good

[ionic peak]

I got a coller master one

[solid quail]

I can't just get any case. It has to be E-ATX

And also supoort eatx properly unlike this awful case I got now

[ionic peak]

E atx was Chunky?

[solid quail]

Yes

[ionic peak]

Island

[ionic peak]

I got atx

On my matx mobo

Wtf why is matx bad

Then buy me a atx one

[solid quail]

I didn't really have an option for that. The matx and atx x99 boards were just too cut down

[ionic peak]

I got b350 or so

B450M Pro-VDH MAX is it

[solid quail]

Asus x99e ws usb3.1 here

Look at the pcie and ram slots😉

[stray portal]

It's not bad but u have mismatched case

[ionic peak]

I got the blue to

[ionic peak]

Cheep was it

[stray portal]

Atx case on matx mobo is frowned upon

[solid quail]

How about an E-ATX case and an ITX motherboard?

[stray portal]

literally impossible

[thin plover]

it's not that bad

[ionic peak]

It was 65 total

[dire estuary]

If I have a GPU with 2x8 Pin but only 1x6 Pin & 1x6+2 Pin Connector can I still use it? The 225W + 75W from the PCIe Slot should satisfy the 300W Power Draw of the Card. Does it check on boot if all of the Pins are connected?

[carmine yew]

no it's fucking not

[stray portal]

Yes it is

[carmine yew]

maybe in your brain, but in the real world? It doesn't fucking matter

it's literally aesthetics

take advantage of the unused space at the bottom of the PC to put in figs or decoration

or vertical mount the GPU and you won't be able to tell the difference

it literally doesn't fucking matter, and if you tell people it does, you should feel bad about your life choices up until this point

[ionic peak]

._.

[rigid fjord]

saying that like it's not standard on any modern board from the past 5-10 years

[rigid fjord]

what gpu exactly?

[rigid fjord]

only in ztt would it be frowned upon. here it would be mor advantageous

[stray portal]

kinda true ztt community is dookie... very dookie... They would be angry about something like that

[rigid fjord]

can literally vertically mount the gpu with no issues and gain mor airflow for it

vertically mounted gpu never sags

[gleaming rose]

after consideration I'm thinking of getting one of those gaming handhelds with the 395

ofc my PC still hasn't sold soooo

[solid quail]

I just said the model of the motherboard? X99e-ws-usb3.1

[gleaming rose]

I'm sad that all of them only have LCDs though

because I was really hoping I would finally get to use a device with a good OLED screen

[stray portal]

Steam deck oled

[gleaming rose]

weaker hardware than the 395+

[rigid fjord]

the usb part isn't needed tbh

[solid quail]

It's still the name of the motherboard

As there were multiple different versions of the board

There was the normal one, 10G, IPMI etc

[stray portal]

But the steam deck has better optimization

And on most games that support the steam deck, it will be a better experience than if you used other handhelds

Since those other ones run windows which is a desktop os so most games won't be good on them

[gleaming rose]

dawg I genuinely don't think you know what you're talking about

[stray portal]

why

[gleaming rose]

games aren't optimized for the steam deck they're just certified to run on linux

at that point all that needs to work is the controller which is done by steam anyways

plus I was going to install Linux anyways

[stray portal]

not always true

[frozen relic]

I've got a pc with a 7800x3D and an rx6800, which I use primarily for VR and Unity game development. I'm already happy with the performance, but I want to be able to use a tool called Bakery that unfortunately only works on nvidia GPUs. If I wanna keep at least the same performance and amount of VRAM that I already have, what's my best option for swapping to nvidia, and what does that look like in terms of price?

[stray portal]

Also beamng has custom optimizations for steam deck

[gleaming rose]

yes and I'm sure they don't matter

I guarantee any game that works on linux will work on any gaming handheld with Linux installed

[stray portal]

YOU don't matter, bub

[ionic peak]

Bub

Blub

[stray portal]

also brick rigs is also a good example of why steam dih gets more attention

[ionic peak]

Lego

[gleaming rose]

the reason I say this is because I have experience with Linux gaming as I do it every day

and I have a damn good idea of what will cause problems
running on a handheld is NOT one of them

[stray portal]

Devs will put effort to work specifically for steam deck but not so much for random handheld with random hardware with random loonix

[ionic peak]

Linus

[stray portal]

Linux tec tip reference

[gleaming rose]

you are clueless and that's ok

[ionic peak]

High ratio beef here

[gleaming rose]

the cool part of Linux is that it runs anywhere and the specific hardware doesn't make a difference at all

[stray portal]

He's just mean I say real stuff

[gleaming rose]

maybe the architecture could but not in this case because it's the same arch

[ionic peak]

You are real?

[gleaming rose]

the controller API and the display and all that is abstracted away by the kernel and drivers

[pale flint]

can i run linux on my waterbottle

[ionic peak]

Yes

[pale flint]

tutoril

[ionic peak]

Open bottl aand ad tiny linus in it

[gleaming rose]

there is no difference between the steam deck and any other Linux gaming handheld to the games

[pale flint]

linux i said not linus

[gleaming rose]

except maybe some environment flags that you can just set

[stray portal]

r/linuxsucks guys go read up on it fellas

[pale flint]

😡😡😡😡

[stray portal]

it's ez so

give the tiny linus a tiny pc with tiny linux

but then the tiny linux has tiny endless errors and bugs and dies

[gleaming rose]

f tier ragebait

[pale flint]

https://tenor.com/view/understandable-have-nice-day-have-a-great-day-have-a-good-day-nice-gif-20850110

[ionic peak]

Ye s is base Variant but x is final

[pale flint]

oh

i wanna install linux into my cars engine

[vapid onyx]

a friend wants to do a pc so i helped him... anyone knows if this is a good list? https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/sRFfqH

[pale flint]

unrelated but interesting

[stray portal]

buns pc

[pale flint]

is the 2tb samaung ssd really important?

[vapid onyx]

no

[pale flint]

then why?

save some money on that

[vapid onyx]

10 euros?

nvm

30 i can

[pale flint]

more

[vapid onyx]

nah

where u can find a 2tb under 115?

[stray portal]

Get an air cooler for cheaper and a 7800x or 7700x.

Next up get a cheaper ssd like a wd 790 or 770.

Then also get a cheaper monitor it's really overpriced for what it is. Don't get Alienware it's overpriced.

[vapid onyx]

the alienware its actually one of the cheapest qd-oleds

[stray portal]

oh it's an oled

[vapid onyx]

anyways should i keep a QD-OLED or get a asus rog WOLED?

its 10 euros cheaper the rog

[ebon marlin]

Get the WOLED if it's a tandem oled

Aka 4th gen OLED

[vapid onyx]

idk

[delicate cloud]

wsp gng

[ebon marlin]

I own a QD-OLED it's really nice

[delicate cloud]

wsppp

[ebon marlin]

This is 3rd gen OLED not the best not the worst

[delicate cloud]

which chat good 1 or 2

[ebon marlin]

I pretty much got the same monitor but QD-OLED instead of WOLED

[vapid onyx]

i saw that QD-OLED is a bit better

[ebon marlin]

Yeah it is

WOLED is only better with a 4th gen OLED panel

[vapid onyx]

there's this alienware QD-OLED

[ebon marlin]

I'd recommend comparing the feature set on which one to get

I got my monitor cause it came with a KVM switch

[stray portal]

Get an hp tn panel😍😍

[rigid fjord]

essentially a 4070 minimum

[frozen relic]

I was also recommended a 5060 TI 16GB, how does that compare?

[rigid fjord]

some people yap so hard it shows they have no clue at all

[rigid fjord]

the 4070 is better

[frozen relic]

It only has 12gb vram I believe

[rigid fjord]

7700xt/9060xt are directly comparable to the 6800

[rigid fjord]

still better than a 5060ti tbh

[frozen relic]

The vram specifically is extremely important for vr, vrchat especially

[rigid fjord]

4070 is directly comparable to a 3080 also

[gleaming rose]

is waiting for an OLED 395 handheld worth it or should I just settle for an lcd

[carmine yew]

4070 is around a 3080
4070 Super is around a 3090 (albeit a lot less less vram)

[rigid fjord]

still doesn't mean a 5060ti is what you'd go for, and like i said, a 4070 would be the minimum nvidia card to compare to it

at much greater performance, or you can go secondhand with a 3090/3090ti

long time no see aran

[slim dragon]

Good People, any piece of software to sync one and every piece of RGB , that will be able to save the settings on the device and wont require the said piece of software to be on all the time?

Sup Rauko , Sup Barusu

Hope u guys are good

[rigid fjord]

openrgb or signalrgb are the 2 ideal ones

[slim dragon]

Signal gives me such a headache, and it requires to be on all the time

[rigid fjord]

and doing ok here, getting a little annoyed with my ender 3

[slim dragon]

my fcking RGB is slowly dying

no more RGB, in next build

[gilded harness]

which one is better for my setup

i want yall opinions

[slim dragon]

Here's a reference

[rigid fjord]

literally depends on what you plan on doing

[frozen relic]

I tend to be hesitant when I'm told a spec isn't as important as I think it is, last time that happened was when I being recommended an OLED monitor. People told me the "MSI OLED Care: Panel Protect" thing wouldn't be anything to worry about but sure enough it became my main problem with the monitor, to the point where I'm considering selling it

[rigid fjord]

you're after a gpu that will match the performance you're getting or better than while being a nvidia card, quite literally a 4070 is your starting point

anything that performs better over a 4070 from that point onwards is where you look at

[frozen relic]

Does the 5060 TI 16GB perform worse than rx6800?

[slim dragon]

So You're printing huh?

[carmine yew]

for raw raster: probably similar, or slightly faster

[rigid fjord]

same performance or very near it

[carmine yew]

but it's not going to be a big performance jump

[rigid fjord]

learning to, or trying to learn to

[frozen relic]

Like I said, I'm not looking for a performance jump

[vapid onyx]

yup anymore adjustments? https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/ my friend specificaly said that he wants a 7800x3d

and said 200 euros budget and it to look good

[slim dragon]

I see i see

[frozen relic]

I literally only need nvidia for software compatibility

[rigid fjord]

link fail, you need to use the one from the box above compatibility

[vapid onyx]

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/qwypXR

[rigid fjord]

better

[vapid onyx]

i copied it bad mb

[frozen relic]

So that should be fine then

[stray portal]

Does he know why he wants it

[stray portal]

Or did he just see youtube videos 🥀

[vapid onyx]

idk

[gilded wolf]

I think I have gotten close to the perfect windows handheld setup (Ally X):

I used GHelper to:

• Rebind AC button to launch or focus Playnite because if you start another Playnite process, it just will focus the window instead of starting another instance.
• Rebind CC button to Win+G so it behaves like the xbox button

Then I kept almost all the Armoury Crate SE services running except for the one that listens for AC/CC button presses.

I configured ACSE to have CC exist in gamebar as opposed to the sidebar (Hence the use of Win+G) so I can still change settings easily

Then I wrote some extensions and a theme for playnite that makes fullscreen mode have support for exiting or focusing a game's window for easier multitasking and provide system info like disk space and network info on the home screen

I have a few things I want to work on when I have more time:

• Figure out how to disable long pressing CC button to send Ctr+Alt+Del
• Write my own service to listen for Asus hotkeys so I can set long press and short press macros. This wil let long press CC be Win+Tab for multitasking and long pressing AC to do something else like launch Discord's overlay or something

[vapid onyx]

he says he wants a good pc that will last him long 🥀 😭 🙏

maybe the 7700x is the best way to go

[stray portal]

Tell him he don't need allat

[rigid fjord]

still would go for the 4070, the performance increase would be more benificial to you

[stray portal]

my 5700x will last me 10 years I did the math thats on 1440p, on 1080p even longer

[vapid onyx]

yup its not a big deal between 7700x and 7800x3d

[rigid fjord]

7800x3d is fine especially if this is just gaming, but the cooler and ram are primarily the ones i'd change in that build

[pale flint]

air cooling better

[frozen relic]

I think the price increase isn't very justified if I can get what I need without spending more than $200 total

[stray portal]

Exactly

[vapid onyx]

he wants it to look good too any tips?

[pale flint]

to me "lasting long" and water cooling doesnt sound right

[stray portal]

@vapid onyx sorry for the ping but if u don't mind make a gc with u, me and ur friend he seems lowk stupid and we need to set him straight... 😡

[pale flint]

ts fortnight?

[carmine yew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaIG5SltY8s
Tell him a 9700x is a better choice unless getting a much more powerful GPU.

Use the money saved on the CPU for other upgrades

(Barring outlier titles that *realy REALLY abuse the x3d cache)

[stray portal]

Exactly water cooling is poo

I wouldn't get it even if it was a best high end one

[pale flint]

tru

[stray portal]

Air cooling ftw

[pale flint]

extra work and money for no reason

[carmine yew]

an AIO will outlive most enthusiasts use of a PC

[vapid onyx]

i think ill go whit the 7700x cause the 9700x is a bit overpriced and close to 7800x3d

[pale flint]

cool

air cooling works as well

[frozen relic]

Also, in my original message, I literally said "I'm already happy with my current performance" in bold text lol

[pale flint]

so thats my personal recommendation

[delicate cloud]

WD

[rigid fjord]

tbh dude, 9700x offers the same performance as a 7700x especially when it comes to gaming

[carmine yew]

but so do AIOs. Hating on them for no good reason is pointless

[drifting urchin]

why is it we live in a world that we have invented and use and sell gpu sag devices, but we don't have a device to ensure proper installation of lga type cpu

[carmine yew]

if people want to use an AIO, let them use an AIO

[pale flint]

i am not hating

but i am not loving either

[rigid fjord]

@vapid onyx https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/njLrZc

[pale flint]

i just recommended air cooler didnt force him

[stray portal]

Aio will die sooner and be worse for quality

He wants his pc to last long, so aids cooler isn't for him

[carmine yew]

most people don't care about it 5+ years later

[pale flint]

see rauko also removed aio

[stray portal]

Rauko the smart one

[pale flint]

his friend wants longevity

[rigid fjord]

liquid cooling is just more efficient at thermal transfer than air cooling, but it's still the same amount of heat being transfered

[carmine yew]

If you're pinching pennies: Air Cooling is cheaper.

But some people still want AIOs.

[pale flint]

you can expect ine to use pc for more then 10 years

[rigid fjord]

do not try to pit me against tkitch, you won't win

[pale flint]

you never know

[stray portal]

He doesn't want them period why are you trying to force urself onto him

[carmine yew]

people say that, but no PC you build today will be good for gaming in 10 years, doubly so if you're being cheap

[sullen obsidian]

my gtx 980 is still running 🤣

[pale flint]

well hey maybe he wont use it for gaming in 10 years

only he can tell that

[next gulch]

Hello guys is there any mobo/Volting values expert here ? Two of my PSUs died in 3 months and its definitely not coming from the PSUs from what am seeing, are these Mobo voltages within good range or something seems off ?
Please i dont want to have a 3rd PSU die on me
PS: Mobo is ASUS X870 TUF gaming PLUS WIFI

[stray portal]

he's just wrong and when gets proven wrong changes the subject

[pale flint]

i dont wanna get into this argument so you guys do what you usually do ☮️

[carmine yew]

You also didn't pinch pennies when buying a 980 when it was new

that was a baller gpu back in the day

[left dove]

get warshipped nerd

[stray portal]

My rx 7800xt will be good for long too I didn't pinch penips

[rigid fjord]

what country?

[carmine yew]

hahahaha

[pale flint]

penips

[left dove]

Dude what's up with the kids in the server being megadumb today

[pale flint]

some people do have to pinch pennies

[carmine yew]

idk, but it's a little ridiculous today

[pale flint]

not everyone's earning money to spend it all on pc

[stray portal]

ya i and even then they will last for big time

[carmine yew]

speaking of "changing the subject"
Nobody said to.

[pale flint]

if you dont want to play newer games

[rigid fjord]

nope, tkitch is correct on what he's said, for me it's a question of the cpu being used and if it's really worth it, i also run a 240mm aio on my 5600x and it's not for aesthetics uses

[stray portal]

I have friend who has 1050/ti he still plays stuff on it

Even some new games they work for him

[pale flint]

i am talking to @stray portal

[carmine yew]

you're on a public channel, deal with it

[pale flint]

same to you

[carmine yew]

if you want a private convo? Go to DMs

[pale flint]

low setting and 60 fps?

[stray portal]

you are contradicting yourself

[rigid fjord]

some of us pinch pennies not because we have to, because we can see the performance where it's at and where it's worth it

[carmine yew]

prove it rofl

[stray portal]

I don't know the exact ways but he also played VR games on it

[left dove]

I should get a vr headset tbh

[stray portal]

Probably low settings tho

[carmine yew]

those must be some weak-ass VR games, cuz even in 2017, the 1050TI was bad at VR

[pale flint]

yep but someone people have to pinch pennies because of their financial situation

[pale flint]

my friend played cs2 on his igpu

[rigid fjord]

the voltages look fine, but what where the psu's you bought previously and what do you have now?

[pale flint]

actualy a really good igpu

[stray portal]

Get ready for disappointment I have been a vr enthusiast for some time it's just getting worse and worse

[pale flint]

buy apple vision pro

(the message above is a joke)

[next gulch]

I have a 9800X3D with a 4070Ti, previous PSUs were COoler master X850 Platinum and then the Corsair RM1000e 2025 edition (that i rebought today)

[pale flint]

dont get mad please 🙏

[stray portal]

I have 2 headsets a quest 2 (decked out with accesories) and a psvr2

I honestly regret the psvr2, the quest 2 using steam link was amazing even tho it has flaws

[pale flint]

what did you play on it

vs chat?

[next gulch]

You sure that VIN3 at 1.640V is fine? as well as that VIN2 VIN4 and VIN7

[ebon marlin]

@rigid fjord You think 512mb of dram is enough for a 256gb sata ssd

[left dove]

vin isn't vcore though

[stray portal]

Rec room, left for dead 2, tons of other stuff I don't specifically remember. Never played VR chat it's full of freakers and gooners

[left dove]

iirc cpus nowadays still have the final vrm stage on the die

[ebon marlin]

This HP mini pc I ordered came with a Samsung 860 Evo if it's good enough I'll keep it if it's not I'll replace it with a random kioxia 256gb nvme

[pale flint]

expected

try vr mc

[rigid fjord]

with that combo you really don't need more than 850w tbh, and from what i can see of that snapshot, yes it looks fine, if anything check to see if you're running the latest bios

[pale flint]

ate gyro like 2 hours ago

drank 2 litres of water since

😭 🙏

[stray portal]

I played quest craft a while I should try vivecraft

[rigid fjord]

for a sata drive that low a capacity, yeah it's ideal

[pale flint]

vivecraft?

vr cs2 would be fun

[ebon marlin]

Also wtf I bought this minipc as 8/256 but it has 2 256gb drives? One nvme and other sata

[stray portal]

It's a mod for Java you can basically get mods and stuff

[ebon marlin]

I'm planning on using this minipc as a game server host would sata be fine or should I use nvme instead

[pale flint]

wait do you get it from curseforge or sum?

[stray portal]

Curseforge and modrinth

[pale flint]

oh nice

but idh a vr

[stray portal]

https://share.google/iPw1nMLavUmfVaQNG

[rigid fjord]

msata for the other slot from the looks of it

[pale flint]

i dont have space for all that

[stray portal]

Honestly don't get one or if you really want one get a quest 2 or 3s

[pale flint]

thats a topic for future

[stray portal]

But I wouldn't buy into it, it's becoming a dead platform

[pale flint]

oh

[ebon marlin]

I'm fine with my current storage setup doubt I'll need more than 256gb for now

[next gulch]

yeah i updated it like 2 months ago, also there is a little detail that i forgot but i did some tweaking in the BIOS for example Global Cstate control was disabled, and the MC voltage was at 1.424 and i manually set it to 1.2 according to google it was way too high (VDDIO/MC was at 1.424)
And more importantly there is one factor i forgot to mention, my CPU was only plugged with 1 8pin in the mobo the last 3 months, could it be the issue there that it wasnt getting enough power in full load ? I added this morming the second 8pin to the mobo

[ebon marlin]

Currently planning on using this as a minecraft server

[pale flint]

500 goof

[stray portal]

Vr in general has been on a decline for a while

[pale flint]

256 ok but 500 goof

[stray portal]

Also after the wow factor wears off, having to strap a toaster to ur face is horrible

[rigid fjord]

nope, you'd only need a single 8 pin eps cable for that cpu

[pale flint]

was it ever so popular

[stray portal]

Quest 2 got 20 million sales while quest 3 only had 2 million

[pale flint]

f

[next gulch]

soo what could have killed both my PSUs?

[rigid fjord]

yeah, 256gb more than enough for that, though if you can increase the ram, 16-32gb would be more ideal

[ebon marlin]

I think 16gb would be enough as I'll be installing Linux on this

[rigid fjord]

some kind of short happening would be one way to kill it

[ebon marlin]

The server will be used by around 2-4 people

Maybe more later

[pale flint]

you can add more ram later

[rigid fjord]

ah, running it without a gui?

[ebon marlin]

Yeah

[next gulch]

that most definitely what happened cause i heard an explosion inside the PSU when it happened, but i have a short UPS protection. its this massive battery that regulates the power. So it has to come from either heat or bad VRM?

[ebon marlin]

Someone recommend me to use pelican panel

I also got a Kioxia ssd but that doesn't seem to have dram from the looks of it

Nvm it does

[pale flint]

ok

[frozen relic]

US

[next gulch]

@rigid fjord any idea what could have caused it? i was blaming the mobo at first cause 2 PSUs in 3 months thats not ok

[ivory mountain]

What if 6 psu’s died in 7 months

[next gulch]

no way that happened to someone

[ivory mountain]

Six sevennn

[grizzled frost]

Get out.

[next gulch]

ive seen that it can draw up to 160-180 and the 8pin can only handle 150max