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but wasn't a big fan of having to commute to my uni's makerspace so I could use their soldering station
essentially yes
I dunno if you have to list both tbh, like if you're into one you're probably doing the other 
would an i7 9700k overclocked to 4.9 ghz severly bottleneck a 5060 ti 16 gb
dont think itd ever severely bottleneck a 5060 ti
Some games could suck though
But would they suck coz the GPU bottlenecked nah
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hey, if yall had to trust a third party to repair your PC for money, who would it be
Louis Rossman
uhhh anyone more...approachable for the common guy
lol
preferably affordable too
Guess who had a really good time eating chicken for dinner
Can someone help me reduce high temps during load? Im seeing 67C while running y cruncher 100% load
Who am I and what do I do for work
Why do you want to reduce them even more?
They're too reduced already.
layman who knows nothing about PCs basically and uhh...i guess a very regular job?
Increase cpu lifetime and longevity
CPU temps under max load:
90°C+: Could be reduced.
80 - 89°C: acceptable.
70 - 79°C: Excessively cooled.
60 - 69°C: Is it even under load?
come back when you get these numbers
Looks like LN2
Id be going into a Walmart and ask the guy who unlocks the cabinets in the electronics departments why my shit don't work
Intel ew tho
ok but uhh....what if its like an issue with the computer like my CPU overheating (as seen in screenshot above)
Ideal full load temp
full load? thats me watching a youtube video on chrome
That doesn't matter that much. Yes, heat kills, but anything below 80°C should last for decades without issue. Lowering it any more won't help much, if at all.
Oh damn
yeah idk what to do 🗿
Is this layman a gamer
yes
Hit me up when you can run these voltages and still not hit those temps lol
Does this layman have any "handy" tendencies. Like tightening loose screws
i cant lie i dont even know how voltage correlates to temps 💀
Higher voltages equal higher temps but it’s an exponential growth
lets say the layman already tried cleaning their computer and replacing the thermal paste and still has the same issue
uhhh...so a slightly higher voltage can shoot up the temp if its high enough
Then they're fully capable of fixing it if they can identify. 1: what their cooler is
(And tell us here)
2: identify if the fans spin
Yes but the voltages shown will kill your pc at your temps, I was actually running ln2 to run that
what if its a liquid cooler and uhh one of the fans on the tall thingy with 3 fans is not spinning (it happens to be the center one) but is too scared to make any changes cause its a prebuilt and doesnt wanna break anything
Is it not spinning even with the Google chrome stress test?
well uhh idk what the natural log of 2 has anything to do with it but..good to know
Your pump is probably not plugged in anyway
yes
the layman doesnt know how to check that
but has some pictures to help with context
if needed
what gpu
||it would probably be in the rear panel connected to a hub along with the other fan connectors or their bios ain't configured||
Hey you wanna try the easy stuff first?
Fan Control is a free software that allows the user to control their CPU, GPU and case fans using temperatures.
Gt 1010
uhh whats this
Control fans
oh
Pump is a fan too
wait i already have a picture of the fan not running though
You can't see this specific fan
huh
agree to everything until it gives you sliders you can slide
crank all of them up and perform google chrome benchmark
^
it still calibrating
oh
that happens at a random time
its not always controlled
that is, the temps randomly will spike to over 100C then back to like 70-80 if youtube browser is lagging a bit, or go back to 50 then spike 40 C to like 90, etc.
its very random
so it goes over 100, not, just by watching a youtube video
it does sometimes go over 100 watching a youtube video, but its not consistent
ok i have the sliders
well great, your pump works, but its probably stuck with no fan curve
it says they are at 100% u said to crank em up
nvm
what is a fan curve
its the fans speeding up according to your temperatures
oh
well the thing is
if i play like any video game or launch it, it will go up and stay around 100 C +
for longer at least
right, this app can fix that
huh
its asking you to identify your fans right now right
it already identified them
with the sliders
yeah i have 5
name them* rather
either 1/3/6 is your pump (hopefully), and im betting its...fan 3
while the calibrating happened it throttled a bit
is it doing it now with everything at 100?
turn Fan 1/3/6 to %100 can you make it throttle with anything
yeah probably
try
i9-12900KF
what
yea that fan thats not spinning in the middle is your problem
I expected something a bit more modest
thats the fan
the one below and above that are running its just that one
so you ready to buy some noctuas
whats a noctuas
watch more ltt
💀
but they're enthusiast pc fans
i could barely even manage the thermal pasting man, how am i gonna replace a whole fan
that too one thats like apart of that set of 3
The greatest technician fans that's ever lived spun round and round.
what would be a good linux distro i can use as a server and also be able to use it as a PC
to run AI or smthing
all of em
Debian is love; is life. ❤️ But like... the answer is "all of them" and "none of them" at the same time. Hard to say without knowing exactly what you plan to run on this computer... also, you're not planning to daily drive this as a PC, right? (You can... but that defeats calling it a "server" per se.)
I can set up a server to access it from anywhere?
the only thing spinning is my head after trying to troubleshoot this problem for the past 48 hours 💀
im surprised you.....went to lengths of repaste
when a fan not spinning is....visually, ya know
well the pc help hub discord told me to, so i tried my best and uhh...well the results didnt really change so
one of the very many drawbacks of, the text based medium
thats why the layman is looking for a reliable, affordable and effective PC repair shop
normally not a big deal on most cpus, but you got the mf wattchunker9000
i cant be throttling on 360p youtube videos man, idk what happening
ibuyproblems
I want to run a server to save stuff like pictures and use it to run n8n if possible
and that is on iris Xe
what am i gonna do, im terrified of trying to build my own PC, knowing how clumsy i am and itll cost me a ton if i break something on accident
its an old HP laptop i dont have a use for so why not
Ah, gotcha, so it's not going to be a daily driver PC. You want to tinker around with Linux - makes sense! Whatever you do, just ensure you backup any important data you cannot bear to lose - especially photos.
this is way easier than whatever you did repasting
yup i have it in a synology server a hard drive and a SD card
everyone said repasting was the easiest thing, but when i went to do it there was a cable that was connected to the cooler, and the tubes prevented me from being able to flip it cause they were too stiff, so i had to clean the underside of the cooler blind while trying not to pull the wire, and i had to use 1 hand to paste the topside of the CPU
people always downplay how hard it is, at least in my experience
everytime ive attempted i end up getting into a situation that was never in any youtube video, reddit thread or guide
idk what the most expensive fancy stuff is
@formal sonnet so what do you suggest
I already said... #tech-chat-1 message
debian :3
plus when i do get into those situations where im lost and confused cause it wasnt in the video/guide, no one is available to help me in those moments and i just gotta wing it
because ubuntu is debian
but a more simple verson
You can - Ubuntu is just Debian. And no, Debian is a more simple Ubuntu. Distros based on Debian are fine, but they add their own flavor / polish / nuances to how you use them. Not a bad thing - just something to note.
Almost had a scare with that as I was shuffling around data and reformatting drives
debian v3 doesnt have more security updates
i am living proof that this stuff isnt idiot proof
Gods debian is just so... wonderful ain't it
KDE plasma on top
Why would you be running Debian from 2002? 👀 https://www.debian.org/releases/woody/
ohhh
its not your fault your cooler failed on an extremely expensive prebuilt
you can either make ibuypower deal with it and not have a pc for a couple weeks, or you can do it yourself tomorrow
warranty is already expired so i cant
I accidentally typed v3 then changed it ;-;
lol
idk how to do it myself, and im worried that if i try ill break something else in the process and mess the whole thing up
then im really screwed
you already succeeded at not doing that with a task much more likely for that to happen
Fr though debian 13 is honestly fairly straight forward and easy to set up and also comes with a ton of DE options right off the rip in the installer.
how is replacing a whole component easier than the thermal paste
the worst you can do here is scratch some paint off your case, or miss cutting a zip tie and cut the wire of a fan that already doesnt work
one didnt require me to unplug anything
DE?
all you're doing is unplugging these. unscrewing the aio from the front bracket, unscrew fan, and the same in reverse
sup
Desktop Environment.
bro...look how tangled those all are, and all the ties holding it together i swear another wire will like drop and i wont know where it goes
if some knotted shoelaces prevent you from going outside I'd be too scared too
im thinking of Ubuntu since its more new user friendly
i dont even know what a front bracket is
I have no idea about Linux
i mean idk, often times ive tried to mess with my PC in some way itll usually go unexpectedly and i wont know what to do, like what if another connection falls or i accidentally rip a wire/one of the ties that is holding up something important
alright listen @toxic jasper you can either spend $190 for a minimum wage best buy employee to install a bunch of crap on your computer, or you can DM me when you have a fan to replace the broken with and a screwdriver
we can call or whatever
Im already invested at this point
yeah that was my concern, people told me i couldnt trust geek squad cause they wont know either, so im like paralyzed lol
if you really are willing to help me step by step
and would be available if something unexpected happens
when you got intimidated by the rear panel cables I started to feel bad
as long as its around the same time of day yea
yeah im completely clueless and terrified
i had a bad experience in the past thats why
ive tried learning how to build PCs for a decade but ive never been able to cause of so much anxiety and uh
well i had a bad experience once where i tried to tinker with something in my old PC and i ended up bricking it and had to buy this new one i have now
what about setting up a server on windows
so it cost me literal thousands
never trust geeksquad
its a rule of thumb in the repair business
thats what ive been told, but i cant turn to anyone else in my area :[
when you said prebuilt I diddnt expect a 12900kf variant, literal thousands.
how far is a microcenter?
3 hours away and i cant drive cause i have benign vertigo atm so im medically barred
also the last time i gave my PC to microcenter they bricked my PC as well
and thats the closest one, which is 3 hours away
are you getting a new fan(s) irl or online
they didn't fix the problem
or like refund or give you credit or anything
both
they wrongly diagnosed cause i got the PC back once, then within 3 DAYS something else broke and they took it back and said "yeah give us another $1000 to fix this" like i didnt give em $500 previously
i ended up having to get a new PC
i sorta have to get them online cause i cant drive atm
uhh what fans should i get...i know compatability is important so idk really what to get
also what am i even replacing
is it just that 1 center fan
upgrade what
i was gonna ask cause uhh, lowkey im worried if i spend the money to get a fan, replace it somehow and then "oops temps are still hot" its a waste
its happened twice now so, first with getting the canned air to dust my PC, then with the thermal paste
we already verified your pump worked. if that happens the only other thing it could be is mounting pressure
aka did you screw in the pump block tight enough
well i screwed it till the screws couldnt move that much
i didnt wanna force it cause i heard that can break stuff so
is 1 fan all it takes to get these temps like 40 C higher though
like damn
i didnt know 1 fan was that much a difference maker
when i dusted my PC it changed it by like...id say 15 C, but then it climbed back up within a couple weeks
went from low 100s to like high 70s low 80s
but it creeped up again so
unless you have a small colony of rats living in your pc case, all really bad dust should do at most is 1-2 degrees in reality but
idk it made a huge difference early on when i did it so
but now its no longer a thing
so you want your pc to be quieter or you just want it cheap as possible
uhh...idk, quiet would be nice i guess, im not sure if the noise level right now qualifies as quiet or not though
subjective
its hard to tell then idk what is quieter so
whats the difference in price between quiet and cheap
cheap would be an arctic p12, the best value fan, quiet would be not quite literally "more quiet", but nicer sounding but cost more.
cheap would be just replacing one, quiet would replacing all 3. my opinion, if you're doing 1, why not do all 3.
cant cool a 12900kf with this
well the other two are working, i could upgrade maybe but like..even then is the 1 fan THAT much a difference maker where im throttling to 117 C
like can 1 fan really make a 40+ C change
If you're confused, you're like a fan.
ive already explained this. its your aio fan dawg
whats AIO fan
the aio is whats cooling your cpu
ye, the tubes carry the hot water to the radiator, that the fans then need to move air through or else your just moving the same hot water back to the cpu
in a technical sense yes
wait, if i replace the fan then does that i mean i have to disconnect the tubes and all
cause its all connected to the cooler
not at all
like u see the tubes
do you see what the fans are mounted to, big metal block?
the tubes go to that block too
you need to remove that block from the case, so you have room to put in the fans
then put it back
oh
all the slack you have in your tubes is all the slack you can move the aio with
get it?
ye
is that the metal block
you should watch more ltt
wait so do i just slot out the old fans and slot the new ones in without moving the block?
the tubes do not come off. Ever.
the graphics card is in the way of the fan you want to replace
if you can figure out how to get the fan off without removing it? Sure
But it's looking pretty tight in there
hard to navigate a screwdriver against a wall
if you unplug the GPU it'd be easier
thats uh....not much slack lol, when i tried to do the thermal paste i couldnt even flip the cooler to view the underside, i had to clean it blind cause the tubes were too stiff
any slack is plenty of slack
wait i have to unmount the GPU? damn...
is the front bracket that metal block
just dm me when you're ready
uh
ill DM you now i guess, i just wanna learn first before i get it all so its clear to me
Ive already told you Id spoonfeed step by step over a call
I wanna game a little tonight
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fan*
oh ok so its just the 1 then
rtx 3080?
yeah
had the same one
ok so i just buy this 1 fan and im good to go, right?
instead of the upgrade
oh cool
alright
well uhh im just gonna buy the 1 fan for now
dang only arrives on friday
guess itll do...
i downloaded ubuintu using wsl and when i opened it after restarting the PC it opened a bunch of cmd windows and closed them instantly
sup
which card
rtx 3080
I think computers need MORE random bullshit
keyboards with volume dials should be common
fingerprint readers at desktops should be normal
This is a flex
they are, most mechanical keyboards has them lol
ehhh, thats lame to me tbh
what the
i have those at my job
how did you get that
you can buy them on amazn
amazon*
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the red cpu company apparently idk
AMD used to be green lol
pre radeon logo
when AMD bought ATI they turned their logo to be red for the "team red" name to differentiate themselves from nvidia and intel as they also stepped into making GPUs
AMD's CPU division and GPU division where red starting in 06
corprate switched to red in 13
Is the amd logo an arrow or a cube
afaik its supposed to be an arrow
Dang i can't stop seeing the cube
AMD CPU logo from 1980
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OLED vs LCD be like:
us who can't afford oled
The oled is on the left yes
correct
what do you use it fod
Windows hello
k
I had like 60 of them at one point when I owned a gun store lol (you need some form of authentication other than passwords on computer systems in those)
unlocking a computer with a fingerprint instead of a password is more convient
also wayyyy more convient then typing my password each time I run sudo
I just put sudo without password 😢
fingerprint isnt my type of thing
If I just put new thermal paste on my cpu and I’m still hitting 93 degrees is it time to look for a different cooler
it doesmt work for me half of the time
How much paste did you use
93 peak?
Also did you remove the peel and are you using a older x3d chip?
interesting
Ryzen 5 7600 no peel was just a repaste not a new cpu and a pea on the middle
Can I see the cooler because that's INSANE
I may get an Oled but the fact it will die at some point just pmo
I wanna enjoy my stuff without worrying about burn in
All monitors die at some point
OLEDs just need some extra care (not leaving still frames on screen too long)
Stock amd
Something's wrong then lol
Ryzen 5 7600 and 5070ti
are your fan speeds really low? By default on most motherboards that cooler should be staying under 80
So u can't do most desktop work
try going to bios and resetting your CPU fan speeds to default
Too long is literally in the double digits in hours
modern OLEDs can easily take desktop windows for 12+ hours
If your monitor is on 12 hours a day you're just asking for it to die anyways
A normal monitor wouldn't die tho
Hedgehog. It's just a hedgehog.
I’ll check
You've been hedgehogged. Go hedgehog someone else as revenge.
Dawg I've run several business and did all the IT maintenance myself for years
2, 7 hour shifts = 10-11.5 hours of activity on a display
Ive had countless Dell, Asus, Acer, and HP monitors die from just being used too much in just a few years
That's not really a problem anymore
You have to leave it still for insanely long amounts of time
cheap monitors die oftren
it still happens after 10-12 hours
Then you run the built in pixel cleaning and it probably goes away
and what if it doesnt
display gone money gone
$600 Dell ultrasharps and $100 LGs will die in about the same amount of time if they're being used 12 hours a day
Business monitors aren't cheaply made, they outlast consumer monitors and gaming monitors (I learned this pretty damn fast)
Idling on my desktop with discord open
what oleds would yall recommend
long life and no dying also i want maybe good hdr kinda maybe
ideal size 24-27 inches
googled it apparently that stock cooler is just typically bad
Burn in really isn't an issue anymore
Those temps are fine
Is there a reason it never used to do this before I upgraded to the 3070ti
Only way you'd get burn in nowadays is if you accidentally leave ur monitor on while you go on a vacation
This is under no load when I open a game it goes to 93
There's pixel clean/pixel refresh features on monitors which help get rid of burn in aswell
And it isnt boosting properly too
Did you remove the plastic film on it?
they're not fine that CPU should be below 95C at all times and is gonna be throttling at idle
There is no plastic film the cpu is not new
its pretty common the CPU cooler that comes with the 7600 is just poorly manufactured
If it was under load those temps would be completely fine
Buy a thermalright tower cooler if you have the space
that's at idle though he said so😭
And sometimes I'm blind
It happens
Get a be quiet it's so much tuffer
Since I'm switching to am5 now I should prolly invest in some ptm
hogrider
Why r u doing this am6 is around the corner
My 5800x3d with fresh thermalpaste ran at 50-55⁰C under gaming load and after a year or two now it's running at 75⁰C~
I get this upgrade for free
no it ain't? AMD is giving us 4 CPU gens on AM5 only, and probably 1-2 after
😱 How
I even make money on this upgrade
By selling my old AM4 kit
sell mc seller
NVM AMD apparently extended it to 5 generations for AM5
Still less than AM4 but yeah that's a lot
I got a 7800x3d for 270€ and a B650 + X870 mobo for 110€
That's just because it's an X3D chip
Amd is stoopid they should've made the 5500x3d worldwide
The mobos are untested but if one of em ends up working im in big moneh
Something about the 3D V-Cache makes them get progressively harder to cool across the first 2-3 years
My thermalpaste has dried out by now
I don't remember what server this was on but some uninformed idiot claimed the 5500x3d isn't real and that I was making it up for attention
Will get ptm aswell soon
yea he thought it wasn't real since he didn't hear about it and when I sent him proof they said those videos were fake
I am using thermalright thermal paste with my 12900K with all my fans below 1000 rpm and never go above 70C
I have another pc with a 7600x and it doesnt seem to go above 85c on a deepcool ak400 cooler
Maybe try reseating your CPU in the overheating one
I did
That's what ended up fixing my old LGA 2011 systems overheating years ago
Just get a better cooler and call it a day
so I suggested it, best suggestion is just pickup a cheap tower cooler (thermalright spirit 120 is my recommendation)
It’s because the cache is only half the IHS height and on the 5000 and 7000 x3d they had a composite layer placed on top of them insulating the heat. The 9000 series it’s placed on top so it cools directly to IHS without a composite layer insulating
That explains why they are harder to cool not why they seem to get hotter as they age
Well they get hotter because they’re being insulated. So the heat is trapped in the middle of the chip…
no they increase heat production as they age...
Doesn't matter if they're repasted or anything they do tend to run 6-10 degrees hotter after a year compared to new
Weird that my 7800x3d doesn’t do that. You got a source confirming that?
As it doesn’t make any sense it would generate more or less heat because of age. Perhaps if the composite layer changed in some way but I can’t imagine that happens
Uh. Now you’re speculating. If you get me a source that says that go for it. Otherwise you’re talking out your arse as what you just said is completely unfounded
Probably thinking of this tbh
https://www.custompc.com/amd-ryzen-7000x3d-7800x3d-overheating-bulging-voltage-controller
I've seen a lot of people complaining about them heating up with age
Yeah that just caused exploding chips
Exploding, burning up etc. ASUS had the worst of that when the 7800x3d came out
AMD moment
Nothing compared to Intel manufacturing 13th gen with oxidation issues…
That's a vendor issue
What about a Be Quiet dark rock pro 4 if I could get it cheap
Cheaper than thermalright
I doubt you'd be getting it as cheap as any thermalright cooler but sure
be quiet is generally better but for a lot more money
$40 or 50 aud
The thermalright was like $66
Which thermalright is $66 AUD lmfao
Even the top end stuff from thermalright is $40 USD
Yeah everything is more expensive here
For example my gpu is 700 usd in America or 975 usd here
I live in europe and I get my tech cheaper than the muricans
Yeah I get that part but bequiet coolers r like $100 US lol
It's an used cooler
can you not
till you learn about the fact your screwed on used business hardware there since the European version of ISL is permanent just like PSB is
What is pal yapping about
Was this a good purchase?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/X98Pxr/innocn-25g2s-245-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-25g2s
what the hell
In the US you can unlock a ISL locked Intel CPU but not a AMD PSB locked one
in the EU both can't be unlocked
(ISL/PSB are how OEM systems lock CPUs to the board)
Yeah man whatever that means
Yeah the be quiet cooler im looking at is 26 usd
Basically they make you unable to put the CPU in another motherboard
get the be qoitet its turff
tuff it quiet and cool
Intel's US stuff if you swap the CPU to another board ISL just disabled itself, PSB on the other hand does not (and isn't possible to disable period)
grab an id cooling a620 pro se, it's only $29
It'll be fine won't be affected by that
Who
AMD and Intel both do it for their business systems now
This seems like a dumb thing I hope whoever ecer does that mega dies
All OEMs that sell Microsoft certified business systems do it
so basically all the major OEMs
what the helly
Intel thankfully makes it super easy to disable for US model stuff
It affects normal ass i7s and Ryzen 7s from business computers
Like newer optiplexs and thinkstations are attected
Show me an optiplex with a 7800x3d
Thinkstations with it exist, optiplexs don't they're Intel only
Poopyplex are bad purchases who even gets them
They're a lot different than they used to be
Mini pc in 2025
Show me a thinkstation with a 7800x3d
Minipcs are neat
Got one with a 7500T to host my game servers
literally any of the AM5 DT and SFF desktops where optionable with it
Show me
My school had a massive downgrade some months ago they went from Windows 8.1 pcs to Windows 11 aios
I can't find any
How is that a downgrade
And also we got vr headsets but we never use them and also they don't know how to take care of them they leave them in the sun for their lenses to burn
Atleast this guy is aptly named.. schizophrenic…. He’s talking some mad dribble this morning
Thinkstations P2s had it as an option
Not really a downgrade but I just liked windows 8.1
"had" AM5 7000 is EOPL now
Onglizzy
Also we have 2 it labs and one of them got upgraded first it stayed kinda the same but one of them got upgraded later and that one is much better now
Like hardware wise I think the one that got upgraded later has better stuff
There are no Ryzen 9000 Thinkstation P2s afaik because AMD is absolutely dying in the business market again
I can only find Intel P2's
Why does this guy have proper beef with AMD
Yeah they where discontinued at the end of Ryzen 7000 because nobody wants AMD workstations in that area
AMD just fails to sell in the business segment
that's why nobody makes business systems with AMD stuff for more than one or two generations
Yeah but you were beefing on AMD before that subject…
Can't find anything that even mentions AMD i think it's time to take ur schizo medication
Show me on the doll where Frank Azor hurt you
Probably the type of guy that bought a 285k and said it is better in games than a 9800x3d
First time seeing that in a tech space
NVM ur right I got them mixed up it was Dell offering them
(Dell rebranded optiplex to pro recently)
X3D was only available for the 7th gen stuff which is out of production now though
and these systems all have PSB so the CPUs can't be upgraded except by approved AMD vendors
I don’t get why you care about this
Exactly
Because it's the Pro chips no one buys those
Those don't even exist in the used market
Because when the used market comes around in 5-6 years there's gonna be tons of ewaste AMD chips while Intel won't have nearly as many as Intel does
Just getting mad at nothing
Like it’s designed to be used in a setting where enhanced security matters. Where you upgrade / throw away an entire unit and not parts. So it makes sense.
Because they can't like 90% of the Pro chips are exclusive to PSB locked systems
You’re just getting mad at something that doesn’t affect you
Getting mad at something that doesn't affect anyone
its not that people don't want them it's that AMD chose to make it so you CAN'T have them
windows 8.1 was the worst os ever made im sorry
its literally manufacturing ewaste
It’s enhanced secure boot… for businesses….
Intel has the same thing without permanently locking the CPU to the motherboard
And?
And?
AMD just uses it as an excuse to limit the used market
Ok and
YOU are the worst os ever made.
thankyou ❤️
8.1 had a lot of UI issues but was incredibly reliable lol
So when a business in 5-10 years gets rid of the unit…. And there’s new CPUs out… it’s ewaste anyway.
honestly nothing is truly ewaste
That was true like 20 years ago but nowadays a 10 year old PC is perfectly usable lol
Ffs I daily drove a decade old PC till very recently
So you’re upset you can’t take and sell the cpu. You’re upset it’s stuck in a unit. Because it’s not ewaste… it’s just not resellable
well, it can be waste in the terms of "I wouldn't use this for anything, not even a pc to remote into a server"
but you can still do stuff with it
Dawg what???
I feel I’m going to get cancer reading more from this guy
usually the used market for CPUs comes from them being pulled from business systems by tech recyclers

The volume of business systems ending up with tech recyclers HEAVY out numbers the custom built and consumer prebults
honestly not here
there is no business used market in my city
it's all methheads or people upgrading their stuff
In the UK businesses sell whole units on, they don’t take them apart. They have to pay someone to do that
rare case, but again the whole reason AMD pro chips don't really exist on the used market is because AMD made it so you can't have a used market for them
I’m still confused as to why that matters
what about when the shitty OEM board or power supply you can't easily replace dies
I guess I will come back if I can be told why it matters
what if they're just so new no one has needed to sell them 😔
AMD pro is a decade old line almost now
it came around during the A8 era and has been like this its entire life
Wrong. 8 was the worst windows ever made, 8.1 at least acted like windows should but it was still meh
honestly
businesses dont care
chances are, if they have the money to upgrade a fleet of desktops, they don't care about reselling 
And why are you ranting about something so old it's not even worth considering?
Because they still release new pro CPUs that will never be able to be reused
sorry yeah i forgor 8 existed
that was cancer
that wasn't even windows
windows 8 felt like a fking toy
baby's first pc
businesses only keep systems for 2-3 years then they go to a recycler who will typically strip out resellable components and put them on the used market and then scrap the rest
why aren't pro chips resellable sorry i kinda just entered
They're locked to the motherboard by efuses
when they're first installed they blow specific efuses to pair themselves to the specific board they where installed in
If you find a pro CPU on the used market it's a new old stock CPU that never got installed into a pro system
Depends on the business
A lot of them will just pay someone to destroy the system
Or most institutions (at least here) are legally required to throw the systems away and not allow anyone to take anything from them
Here in the US most of the time they just either pull the storage or have them wiped by certified software
I kinda get the frustration, around the principal of it all, locking down pc hardware
but, in reality its probably not that big of a deal?? like
it would affect such a small amount of people
i get it, i just dont think it's that bad
It’s really not
It sounds a lot like someone who is salty they don’t have the opportunity to resell them
You are legit better off buying countless other processors
Wsp MD
I mean purposely destroying a used market by rendering hardware impossible to reuse it
The pro chips are just X chips with the multipliers locked and a on board key storage module
If anything. AMD is doing people a solid as they can be recycled for any rare earths in their chips
Just up to companies to do it
they'll get junked because recyclers think they're useless
John Deere is making pc parts now?
Yo
Rate my setup rn
AMD pro stuff essentially
10/10
ergonomics are on point
10/10 for not shattering glass on tiles flooring
Nvm i can't
if you're not standing on your desk to look at your monitor what are you doing
Also a lot of the systems the pro chips ship in (but not all) use boards that are locked into running windows via non disableable Secureboot and not being able to load new Secureboot keys
Tldr its a walkie talkie taped to my jacket
So super series 50 gpus… what’s the crack all about there
(We need to get off this batshit topic)
Oh what'd they do
It's a plastic panel 
Like besides make stuff unusable
They're efuse locked to the boards they first boot in
and the boards typically are locked to windows
im waiting for 5070 super
Hot damn
has anyone bought an open box motherboard from newegg before and what was the condition of the board?
Hate AMD, Hate John Deere, Hate Ford
be okay with Intel but still hate them, love case, be okay with GM
Bought a MSI board open box before from newegg, came sealed with a MSI refurbished seal
I wonder if this gigabyte board Im looking at will come like that. Did it have the accessories
It had everything but the stickers yeah
Ya I dont really care about the stickers its not like it makes my pc faster 🤣
Ong
Rgb tho..
4th gen, amd gens are not done the same as intel gens, you need to learn the differences
Wsp rauko
sup
my bluetooth and other devices setting says "bluetooth is turned off" but i don't see a button to turn it on
how do i fix
Planning on buying a laptop for school and some light gaming
But problem is, I've got nearly 0 clue what the specs should be
Already have a pc, so I might not be doing heavy gaming on the laptop
Or maybe I will
Budget is ~$950 USD
why gaming on laptop
mans when reading
that doesn't make sense
macbook
if need windows look for either amd or intel with a 200V cpu
Ouch. thats a compromise
why is that a compromise theyre good
no I just lagged out and that message just got sent after 3 mins
hear me out
get a 258v for ya cpu, with 32gb ram
If you can get it within budget ofc
that is a intresting cpu
and nuke the cpu?
and it just went straight over your head
nobody?
wdym?'
Sorry, i dont follow?
oh bruh
voltage vs cpu name
258 volts into a 258v
lol
to beyond
Is buying the tab s10+ worth it?
I need a tab for school work, light gaming, good screen for watching
if u dont want macbook
usually floats around 600-700, for oled screen, 17hr battery and can still get 50fps on 1200p medium cyberpunk 2077 for ''light' gaming
soldered ram is ngek tho
yooo were the first 2 photos rendered in 240p
idk its crisp and clear on my screen but if i take a screenshot the quality dies
the youtube vid is in 1080p
wb the 258v
afaik thats like the most efficient intel laptop cpu atm
blame discord compression
anyway yeah intel 200v in laptops is goated
That's the problem
I'm in Bangladesh and prices are crazy here
It's impossible to get a good deal
get some 200v cpu with at least 24gb ram and ur good to go
That's out of my budget
theyre gonna be using the pc for big work anyway
16 is fine
$850 USD for a RTX 2050 laptop 🥀
Yeah i think 16 is fine
And I can just upgrade the memory later if needed
Although I'd rather use Linux with 16gb nowadays
I would go for MacBook but I like my freedom with messing around with stuff on my system
not if ur getting the intel 200v
or anything new actually, most non gaming has already gone soldered even amd
Oh wow
yeah most laptops i browsed had soldered ram
I'm cooked
i went for an open box laptop with soldered 32gb ram
but if u arent doing big workload anway even an older zen2+ or 12th gen+ laptop is fine
unless u have high battery requirements
I don't think I'll be doing any heavy workloads
But I would prefer some musclepower even if it meant sacrificing the weight
I'll be using it for gaming when I'm at my cousin's or sum
Mobile data is pretty slow here so moonlight isn't useful
Hence the need for high specs
bring ur own egpu when u wanna game
Nothing wrong with soldered ram. Just get enough of it
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I want to use my old 2060S but idk how
This is all I got rn
In my currency, budget would be around 115k
I saw the razer thing for GPUs but that requires thunderbolt
Oof that budget is rough. Like a 3050 laptop budget
how careful r u with ur laptop
a lot of stuff that are good in everything except theyre in a plastic body r like <60k
lowk this the best u can get that isnt directly a gaming one
Idek, I haven't used one in 5 years
Oooo
Wb gaming ones
Those are over 150k 🥀
That's like $1300 USD
Christ your budget is £700
How is that the best you can get for that money. Feels bad
can get many laptops for that price tbh
Taxes
That’s what I’m saying. The value in his country is not good
My friend got a MSI katana smth smth around a year ago for $800 USD with a 4060 from Australia
I've been eyeing that but like
he suffers from being near india
I don't know anyone in Australia
I thought India was just about making scam phone calls to the UK?
I am
poor on the cooling tbh
Worst case scenario, prices go up even more because of them
Because Australia doesn't exist
That's what I heard
not trynna be racist or anything but I’d never go to India, my concerns in that country would skyrocket
It's very loud when the fans are cranked up
We call it 2nd England where i am from
india tech market = secondhand priced as new and new priced at scalper pricing
Upside down ahh country
Same goes for Bangladesh but worse
Can't even find secondhand here
or, former british prison colony
Lmao
Try crossing a street in India
It's pretty easy tbh
It’s like a game of dodgeball but with cars
Our streets are way more chaotic
That's one of the first things I learned as a kid 💀
you just wait for a cow to start crossing the road, and start walking behind it
I should mention the cars are the ball
And they won't be slowing down*
“try living in india for 1 day”
BOLD. AND STUPID
I went there once a few years ago and that's exactly what happens
Though I went to a somewhat more "developed" part of India
that is like telling someone to try living in mexico for a day
Is Mexico really that bad
they'll stop for a cow. not another human
idk why but in valorant indians always have egos
like its always the indians complaining and starting shit up
Not just valorant, it's universal
can be just as bad from what i've heard and read
Just piss them off with don't redeem if they bother you for too long
Oh wow
LOL my friend who got flamed by the indian started saying racist shit to them 😂
I'll have to leave my country before the next election 🫡
“beta dont redeem it beta why did you redeem it”
😭😭
It's worse when they're shit talking me because I somewhat understand their language
“dude dude ur so smelly I can smell your disgusting ahh through the screen” LOL that fucker knows how to be fkin racist
The fact that our old PM escaped to live with India's PM 🥀
Taking a shower in their country must be a luxury
I saw that there are stray COWS on their streets
Just roaming around freely
On the busy roads as well
indians generally just have big egos online
'developed' btw
or should I just remove the online part
Exactly
like idk man nevermind the racist shit like showering and dont redeem it but like they are always trynna start shit
Prove them wrong, they'll play the victim card
Been like that with us in Bangladesh for years 🥀
But we couldn't say anything for like 14 years because if we did, we'd get abducted by the govt and go missing 💀
Anyways the laptop
I'm a Sparky, I charge forever and then I die to three skeletons
Is there any way to use the 2060S I have with the laptop without going broke
my aunt at work always get pmo’d by the indian managers
then one day she decided “alr fuck you im out”
That's awful
Id rather not work for Indians if I could
now that company regret that decision 😂
LETS GOO 😭
few months later they still couldnt find a proper replacement
Well deserved
everytime new indian manager they always piss her off
Problems of being overpopulated
(ironic for me, a Bangladeshi to say that)
thing is her managers before werent indian at all
Oh
Imagine dealing with them every single day
Id die on spot
Like every new manager thereafter were always Male Indians and always piss her off
🥀
cows are sacred to indians, meanwhile everywhere thats not india, "yum these cows taste great with some onions, relish, mustard and ketchup all up in a bread bun"
That's what happens when Indians get power
EXACTLY
I personally don't like beef because of the taste and texture but
the only humble indians I’ve seen were only in the employee role lmao
They get so offended when you mention that you eat beef 💀
LMAO
but I’d still say its still biased towards very egotistical and wont admit their mistake
Give them a small promotion and their ego becomes overinflated
It's always been like that
Some dude messaged me and shit talked me for supporting Palestine a while ago
There was one other indian dude at my internship- Most of us think of him like a Snake and he drove the truck like shit
that's true of many people, not specifically those from india
And would NOT listen to anything I was saying because he was right
Well yeah, but there's a huge percentage of Indians that are like that
Like when he drove the truck there was no sense of safety, weight shifting at all- The humble dude also drove like that at first albeit softer, he improved overtime
Other guy still drove, like shit.
Doesn't even have to be outside of India for their egos to turn into hot air balloons
Ok but if ur egotistical at least admit to ur mistake or make valid points- I have alotta ego but I’d say im not 100% pointing in one direction
He's too used to driving their 'Tata' 😭
put a cup of water in the vehicle and that water is spilled all over before getting outta the carpark
Egoistical people still make sense, even if it's a little
Indians don't, they just need to win an argument
LMAO
another type of egotistical people (apart from indians) i hate are the ones that act so delusional
Which ones exactly
is there an app or something for music control? on windows?
like something i can put in my second display
I'm introverted so I haven't gotten into many arguments irl yet
the ones that act like they know everything and pretend to be “nice”
they're called karens/chads/kevins
OH YEAH THOSE
They piss me off so much
I know one, my classmate-I havent opened the dumpster fire on him yet
I sometimes want to open up their thick skulls and see if there's anything in there
He’s so delusional, calling me low rank in valorant, a fuckass game I dont play much while he has a 1.6 GPA last term
I already have his combat data to flame his fuckin ass out
Am I a rare breed for being able to balance my education and gaming decently
Specifically because I'm from somewhere that's next to India
idk you are you im not gonna compare you to others
Why do I hear the steam link sound from a slide thing in a meeting room
Fair
I think I'm done upgrading my pc for the next 4-5 years
my next upgrade will be a 6090- and novalake 
I hate how samsung doesnt release updates all at once for every device in every country
What's a novalake
Im likely to just leave my X870 Assrock steel legend and 9800x3d as is
Fair take, I agree
Im getting OneUI 8 on my watch before my phone.....
next gen intel for desktop (not ARL refresh)
I won't be updating my phone to Oneui8.5 solely because of the huge chance of getting a nor-so-nice vertical line on my screen
Ohhh
Galaxy watch?
Well wait yeah obviously
Yeah I bought a 7 in February
I'm still on OneUI 6 on my watch 6
Of course im not using my smart fridge
Niceee
😭
As a samsung family hub owner do not buy one
Sheeesh alright
Only useful thing is maybe the internet browser
Speaking of fridges, I think it's time my grandparents moved on from their ancient fridge
Googling recipes and conversions
Only realistic use
Sales rep on their way to try get them to buy the samsung bespoke AI fridge
I did install Minecraft on it....
Luckily we don't got those here 💀
Now that's dedication
Something I would try
I played Forza on my watch 6 using moonlight streaming
Trying to use wireless debugging on a fridge is not easy
If it's tech, I'm doomed to try something dumb
I could tell
And it doesnt help that the wifi AP is on the other side of the house
Oh wow
That is something
There's a cat6 cable in one of the cabinets somewhere maybe that's something I should consider installing is a AP
I'm going to design my family's apartment tonight
But I got 0 clue on what to so
Do*
I wanna put the kitchen applies spaced out like they do in the US
That's cool
I just realized there's a huge problem
Whats it?,
Ruh roh
Any advice on the layout of the apartment
Not my shitty rural internet being as shitty as possible
I wanted to put two bedrooms on the front of the house as there's a direct lake view
How much do you pay for internet there
Which variant is the watch
So much that starlink is 1NZ$ more expensive
44mm LTE
Sheeesh
I was gonna buy the 40mm but they were out of stock and it was gonna take them a month to get me one
I wanted a 42mm non lte watch 6 classic but wrist too thin
It barely fits on my wrist lol
How much is that in USD
Like I pay $13 USD for 200-500+ Mbps
Ohhh
Oh
We recently got starlink in Bangladesh
But I haven't seen anyone using it realistically except for businesses
Rather than the setup cost, the monthly bill is wayyy too much
So im spending 150NZ$(86US) for 60mbps
$50-$80 USD for 150-300 Mbps Vs $13 for gigabit internet
Ohhh
Starlink is 159NZ$
But I'm sure that's your own personal IP
I believe so
Sheeeesh
There's a dish on my house that goes to a tower on a mountain nearby
That's expensive
Ohhh
Y'all got mountains there 🥀
Gigabit Fibre in town is around 75% cheaper
I see
It's not cheap to live in the country
I'd still take shared ip if it's gigabit because
I don't need some extra features
That come with real ip
I can tell
I would rather use 5g wireless than what ive got right now
😭
How much is mobile data there
I pay 59NZ$ for unlimited data, call and texts + 7NZ$ for my watch to use my phone plan
Yo wait that's sick
I would pay that over paying $7-8 for a set amount of data and call for a month
Sheeeesh
Mostly western countries with a limit
I think the calls are like 180 minutes and around 500 texts
Oh
That's plenty tbh
There's probably a list somewhere