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fringe pulsar
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glad it broke off that cleanly

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but wasn't a big fan of having to commute to my uni's makerspace so I could use their soldering station

rigid fjord
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essentially yes

left dove
gusty moss
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would an i7 9700k overclocked to 4.9 ghz severly bottleneck a 5060 ti 16 gb

left trellis
stoic nova
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But would they suck coz the GPU bottlenecked nah

tulip sparrow
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there are four models to choose from: base (8GB of RAM/128GB of storage), Pro (12GB of RAM/256GB of storage), Max (16GB of RAM/512GB of storage), and Ultra (24GB of RAM/1TB of storage). It’s worth noting that the base model features UFS 3.1 storage, while the others use UFS 4.0.

toxic jasper
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hey, if yall had to trust a third party to repair your PC for money, who would it be

tulip sparrow
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Louis Rossman

toxic jasper
tulip sparrow
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lol

toxic jasper
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preferably affordable too

plain cypress
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Guess who had a really good time eating chicken for dinner

tawny lava
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Can someone help me reduce high temps during load? Im seeing 67C while running y cruncher 100% load

stoic nova
frosty oriole
toxic jasper
tawny lava
frosty oriole
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CPU temps under max load:
90°C+: Could be reduced.
80 - 89°C: acceptable.
70 - 79°C: Excessively cooled.
60 - 69°C: Is it even under load?

toxic jasper
tawny lava
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Looks like LN2

stoic nova
tawny lava
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Intel ew tho

toxic jasper
stoic nova
toxic jasper
frosty oriole
toxic jasper
stoic nova
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Is this layman a gamer

toxic jasper
peak knot
stoic nova
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Does this layman have any "handy" tendencies. Like tightening loose screws

toxic jasper
peak knot
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Higher voltages equal higher temps but it’s an exponential growth

toxic jasper
toxic jasper
stoic nova
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Then they're fully capable of fixing it if they can identify. 1: what their cooler is
(And tell us here)
2: identify if the fans spin

peak knot
toxic jasper
stoic nova
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Is it not spinning even with the Google chrome stress test?

toxic jasper
stoic nova
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Your pump is probably not plugged in anyway

toxic jasper
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but has some pictures to help with context

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if needed

stoic nova
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||it would probably be in the rear panel connected to a hub along with the other fan connectors or their bios ain't configured||

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Hey you wanna try the easy stuff first?

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Get this https://getfancontrol.com/

Let it do the calibrate thing

Crank everything to 100

Fan Control is a free software that allows the user to control their CPU, GPU and case fans using temperatures.

peak knot
stoic nova
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Control fans

toxic jasper
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oh

stoic nova
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Pump is a fan too

toxic jasper
stoic nova
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You can't see this specific fan

toxic jasper
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huh

toxic jasper
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4.8 or 8

stoic nova
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4.8

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8 is for nerds

toxic jasper
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ok

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it is

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installed, now what

stoic nova
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agree to everything until it gives you sliders you can slide

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crank all of them up and perform google chrome benchmark

toxic jasper
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it is doing control and speed pairing

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what is google chrome benchmark

stoic nova
toxic jasper
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oh

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that happens at a random time

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its not always controlled

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that is, the temps randomly will spike to over 100C then back to like 70-80 if youtube browser is lagging a bit, or go back to 50 then spike 40 C to like 90, etc.

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its very random

stoic nova
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so it goes over 100, not, just by watching a youtube video

toxic jasper
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ok i have the sliders

stoic nova
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well great, your pump works, but its probably stuck with no fan curve

toxic jasper
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it says they are at 100% u said to crank em up

stoic nova
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nvm

toxic jasper
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what is a fan curve

stoic nova
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its the fans speeding up according to your temperatures

toxic jasper
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oh

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well the thing is

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if i play like any video game or launch it, it will go up and stay around 100 C +

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for longer at least

stoic nova
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right, this app can fix that

toxic jasper
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huh

stoic nova
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its asking you to identify your fans right now right

toxic jasper
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it already identified them

stoic nova
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with the sliders

toxic jasper
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yeah i have 5

stoic nova
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name them* rather

toxic jasper
stoic nova
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either 1/3/6 is your pump (hopefully), and im betting its...fan 3

toxic jasper
stoic nova
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is it doing it now with everything at 100?

toxic jasper
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the sliders are what u see them at atm

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in the ss

stoic nova
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turn Fan 1/3/6 to %100 can you make it throttle with anything

toxic jasper
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yeah probably

stoic nova
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try

toxic jasper
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ok 1, 3 and 6 to drag all the way...

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lemme launch pubg maybe

toxic jasper
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its hovering high 90s to mid 100s

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on the menu of pubg

stoic nova
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welp, its hard to imagine 1 of 3 fans on a 360mm aio- wait

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core i9- i9 what

toxic jasper
toxic jasper
stoic nova
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oh fuck me

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lmfao

toxic jasper
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what

stoic nova
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yea that fan thats not spinning in the middle is your problem

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I expected something a bit more modest

toxic jasper
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thats the fan

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the one below and above that are running its just that one

stoic nova
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see here, find where those lead to

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one should be not like the other 2

toxic jasper
stoic nova
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so you ready to buy some noctuas

toxic jasper
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whats a noctuas

stoic nova
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watch more ltt

toxic jasper
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💀

stoic nova
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but they're enthusiast pc fans

toxic jasper
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i could barely even manage the thermal pasting man, how am i gonna replace a whole fan

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that too one thats like apart of that set of 3

formal sonnet
pine palm
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what would be a good linux distro i can use as a server and also be able to use it as a PC

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to run AI or smthing

stoic nova
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all of em

formal sonnet
pine palm
toxic jasper
stoic nova
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im surprised you.....went to lengths of repaste

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when a fan not spinning is....visually, ya know

toxic jasper
stoic nova
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one of the very many drawbacks of, the text based medium

toxic jasper
stoic nova
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normally not a big deal on most cpus, but you got the mf wattchunker9000

toxic jasper
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i cant be throttling on 360p youtube videos man, idk what happening

stoic nova
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ibuyproblems

pine palm
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and that is on iris Xe

toxic jasper
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what am i gonna do, im terrified of trying to build my own PC, knowing how clumsy i am and itll cost me a ton if i break something on accident

pine palm
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its an old HP laptop i dont have a use for so why not

formal sonnet
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Ah, gotcha, so it's not going to be a daily driver PC. You want to tinker around with Linux - makes sense! Whatever you do, just ensure you backup any important data you cannot bear to lose - especially photos.

stoic nova
pine palm
toxic jasper
# stoic nova this is way easier than whatever you did repasting

everyone said repasting was the easiest thing, but when i went to do it there was a cable that was connected to the cooler, and the tubes prevented me from being able to flip it cause they were too stiff, so i had to clean the underside of the cooler blind while trying not to pull the wire, and i had to use 1 hand to paste the topside of the CPU

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people always downplay how hard it is, at least in my experience

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everytime ive attempted i end up getting into a situation that was never in any youtube video, reddit thread or guide

stoic nova
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well at least you're staying away from the most expensive fancy stuff

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doing this

toxic jasper
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idk what the most expensive fancy stuff is

pine palm
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@formal sonnet so what do you suggest

formal sonnet
pine palm
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oh

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why not ubuntu

winged sky
toxic jasper
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plus when i do get into those situations where im lost and confused cause it wasnt in the video/guide, no one is available to help me in those moments and i just gotta wing it

stoic nova
pine palm
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but a more simple verson

formal sonnet
# pine palm why not ubuntu

You can - Ubuntu is just Debian. And no, Debian is a more simple Ubuntu. Distros based on Debian are fine, but they add their own flavor / polish / nuances to how you use them. Not a bad thing - just something to note.

winged sky
pine palm
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debian v3 doesnt have more security updates

toxic jasper
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i am living proof that this stuff isnt idiot proof

winged sky
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KDE plasma on top

formal sonnet
stoic nova
pine palm
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haze said :3 and i read it as v3

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LMAO

stoic nova
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you can either make ibuypower deal with it and not have a pc for a couple weeks, or you can do it yourself tomorrow

toxic jasper
winged sky
toxic jasper
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idk how to do it myself, and im worried that if i try ill break something else in the process and mess the whole thing up

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then im really screwed

stoic nova
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you already succeeded at not doing that with a task much more likely for that to happen

winged sky
# pine palm lol

Fr though debian 13 is honestly fairly straight forward and easy to set up and also comes with a ton of DE options right off the rip in the installer.

toxic jasper
stoic nova
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the worst you can do here is scratch some paint off your case, or miss cutting a zip tie and cut the wire of a fan that already doesnt work

toxic jasper
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one didnt require me to unplug anything

stoic nova
random gyro
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sup

winged sky
toxic jasper
stoic nova
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if some knotted shoelaces prevent you from going outside I'd be too scared too

pine palm
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im thinking of Ubuntu since its more new user friendly

toxic jasper
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i dont even know what a front bracket is

pine palm
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I have no idea about Linux

winged sky
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Its based on ubuntu

toxic jasper
stoic nova
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alright listen @toxic jasper you can either spend $190 for a minimum wage best buy employee to install a bunch of crap on your computer, or you can DM me when you have a fan to replace the broken with and a screwdriver

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we can call or whatever

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Im already invested at this point

toxic jasper
toxic jasper
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and would be available if something unexpected happens

stoic nova
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when you got intimidated by the rear panel cables I started to feel bad

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as long as its around the same time of day yea

toxic jasper
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yeah im completely clueless and terrified

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i had a bad experience in the past thats why

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ive tried learning how to build PCs for a decade but ive never been able to cause of so much anxiety and uh

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well i had a bad experience once where i tried to tinker with something in my old PC and i ended up bricking it and had to buy this new one i have now

pine palm
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what about setting up a server on windows

toxic jasper
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so it cost me literal thousands

random gyro
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its a rule of thumb in the repair business

toxic jasper
stoic nova
random gyro
toxic jasper
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also the last time i gave my PC to microcenter they bricked my PC as well

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and thats the closest one, which is 3 hours away

stoic nova
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are you getting a new fan(s) irl or online

random gyro
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or like refund or give you credit or anything

toxic jasper
random gyro
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doesn't seem like microcenter

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i got my prebuilt from there, been working great

stoic nova
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they, like most of the us, only have best buy, myself included

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I know how that is

toxic jasper
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they wrongly diagnosed cause i got the PC back once, then within 3 DAYS something else broke and they took it back and said "yeah give us another $1000 to fix this" like i didnt give em $500 previously

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i ended up having to get a new PC

toxic jasper
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uhh what fans should i get...i know compatability is important so idk really what to get

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also what am i even replacing

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is it just that 1 center fan

stoic nova
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you could

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or you could upgrade

toxic jasper
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upgrade what

stoic nova
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the 2 other fans as well

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fans are only like, $5-$40 so relax

toxic jasper
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i was gonna ask cause uhh, lowkey im worried if i spend the money to get a fan, replace it somehow and then "oops temps are still hot" its a waste

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its happened twice now so, first with getting the canned air to dust my PC, then with the thermal paste

stoic nova
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we already verified your pump worked. if that happens the only other thing it could be is mounting pressure

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aka did you screw in the pump block tight enough

toxic jasper
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well i screwed it till the screws couldnt move that much

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i didnt wanna force it cause i heard that can break stuff so

stoic nova
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however a fan going out on a 12900kf is kinda a big deal

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so

toxic jasper
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is 1 fan all it takes to get these temps like 40 C higher though

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like damn

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i didnt know 1 fan was that much a difference maker

stoic nova
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any other fan besides the aio sure

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its not.

toxic jasper
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when i dusted my PC it changed it by like...id say 15 C, but then it climbed back up within a couple weeks

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went from low 100s to like high 70s low 80s

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but it creeped up again so

stoic nova
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unless you have a small colony of rats living in your pc case, all really bad dust should do at most is 1-2 degrees in reality but

toxic jasper
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idk it made a huge difference early on when i did it so

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but now its no longer a thing

stoic nova
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so you want your pc to be quieter or you just want it cheap as possible

toxic jasper
stoic nova
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subjective

toxic jasper
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whats the difference in price between quiet and cheap

stoic nova
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cheap would be an arctic p12, the best value fan, quiet would be not quite literally "more quiet", but nicer sounding but cost more.

cheap would be just replacing one, quiet would replacing all 3. my opinion, if you're doing 1, why not do all 3.

stoic nova
toxic jasper
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like can 1 fan really make a 40+ C change

sonic siren
stoic nova
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ive already explained this. its your aio fan dawg

toxic jasper
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whats AIO fan

stoic nova
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the aio is whats cooling your cpu

toxic jasper
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oh the tube things

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hows that work though

stoic nova
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ye, the tubes carry the hot water to the radiator, that the fans then need to move air through or else your just moving the same hot water back to the cpu

toxic jasper
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oh

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so the fans dont cool the physical thing but the hot water?

stoic nova
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in a technical sense yes

toxic jasper
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wait, if i replace the fan then does that i mean i have to disconnect the tubes and all

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cause its all connected to the cooler

stoic nova
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not at all

toxic jasper
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like u see the tubes

stoic nova
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do you see what the fans are mounted to, big metal block?

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the tubes go to that block too

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you need to remove that block from the case, so you have room to put in the fans

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then put it back

toxic jasper
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oh

stoic nova
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all the slack you have in your tubes is all the slack you can move the aio with

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get it?

toxic jasper
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oh like the

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so the fans are in front of a tall black thing

stoic nova
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ye

toxic jasper
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is that the metal block

stoic nova
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you should watch more ltt

toxic jasper
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wait so do i just slot out the old fans and slot the new ones in without moving the block?

carmine yew
stoic nova
carmine yew
stoic nova
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hard to navigate a screwdriver against a wall

carmine yew
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if you unplug the GPU it'd be easier

toxic jasper
stoic nova
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any slack is plenty of slack

toxic jasper
stoic nova
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not if you unscrew the aio from the front bracket

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listen

toxic jasper
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is the front bracket that metal block

stoic nova
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just dm me when you're ready

toxic jasper
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uh

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ill DM you now i guess, i just wanna learn first before i get it all so its clear to me

stoic nova
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Ive already told you Id spoonfeed step by step over a call

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I wanna game a little tonight

toxic jasper
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okay

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wait so do i have to buy

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where do i buy the fans

stoic nova
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fan*

toxic jasper
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oh ok so its just the 1 then

azure topaz
toxic jasper
azure topaz
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had the same one

toxic jasper
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instead of the upgrade

azure topaz
toxic jasper
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oh cool

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alright

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well uhh im just gonna buy the 1 fan for now

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dang only arrives on friday

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guess itll do...

pine palm
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i downloaded ubuintu using wsl and when i opened it after restarting the PC it opened a bunch of cmd windows and closed them instantly

random gyro
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sup

random gyro
azure topaz
buoyant bridge
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I think computers need MORE random bullshit

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keyboards with volume dials should be common

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fingerprint readers at desktops should be normal

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This is a flex

clear canyon
clear canyon
random gyro
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i have those at my job

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how did you get that

buoyant bridge
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amazon*

sinful cobalt
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the red cpu company apparently idk

buoyant bridge
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AMD used to be green lol

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pre radeon logo

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when AMD bought ATI they turned their logo to be red for the "team red" name to differentiate themselves from nvidia and intel as they also stepped into making GPUs

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AMD's CPU division and GPU division where red starting in 06
corprate switched to red in 13

iron glen
buoyant bridge
buoyant bridge
iron glen
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Dang i can't stop seeing the cube

buoyant bridge
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AMD CPU logo from 1980

random gyro
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Wordle 1,587 3/6

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🟩🟩⬛⬛🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

verbal prawn
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OLED vs LCD be like:

random gyro
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us who can't afford oled

steel umbra
random gyro
pale flint
buoyant bridge
pale flint
buoyant bridge
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I had like 60 of them at one point when I owned a gun store lol (you need some form of authentication other than passwords on computer systems in those)

pale flint
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ok

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goof

buoyant bridge
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unlocking a computer with a fingerprint instead of a password is more convient

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also wayyyy more convient then typing my password each time I run sudo

stark flicker
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I just put sudo without password 😢

pale flint
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fingerprint isnt my type of thing

toxic nova
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If I just put new thermal paste on my cpu and I’m still hitting 93 degrees is it time to look for a different cooler

pale flint
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it doesmt work for me half of the time

pale flint
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93 peak?

buoyant bridge
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Also did you remove the peel and are you using a older x3d chip?

random gyro
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interesting

toxic nova
buoyant bridge
stray portal
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I wanna enjoy my stuff without worrying about burn in

buoyant bridge
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OLEDs just need some extra care (not leaving still frames on screen too long)

toxic nova
buoyant bridge
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Something's wrong then lol

toxic nova
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Ryzen 5 7600 and 5070ti

buoyant bridge
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are your fan speeds really low? By default on most motherboards that cooler should be staying under 80

stray portal
buoyant bridge
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try going to bios and resetting your CPU fan speeds to default

stray portal
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Can't do something without full screening

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Etc

buoyant bridge
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modern OLEDs can easily take desktop windows for 12+ hours

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If your monitor is on 12 hours a day you're just asking for it to die anyways

stray portal
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A normal monitor wouldn't die tho

near jewel
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Hedgehog. It's just a hedgehog.

near jewel
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You've been hedgehogged. Go hedgehog someone else as revenge.

buoyant bridge
# stray portal A normal monitor wouldn't die tho

Dawg I've run several business and did all the IT maintenance myself for years
2, 7 hour shifts = 10-11.5 hours of activity on a display
Ive had countless Dell, Asus, Acer, and HP monitors die from just being used too much in just a few years

true stirrup
buoyant bridge
stray portal
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cheap monitors die oftren

buoyant bridge
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it still happens after 10-12 hours

true stirrup
stray portal
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display gone money gone

buoyant bridge
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Business monitors aren't cheaply made, they outlast consumer monitors and gaming monitors (I learned this pretty damn fast)

toxic nova
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Idling on my desktop with discord open

stray portal
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what oleds would yall recommend

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long life and no dying also i want maybe good hdr kinda maybe

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ideal size 24-27 inches

buoyant bridge
# toxic nova

googled it apparently that stock cooler is just typically bad

ebon marlin
true stirrup
toxic nova
ebon marlin
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Only way you'd get burn in nowadays is if you accidentally leave ur monitor on while you go on a vacation

toxic nova
ebon marlin
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There's pixel clean/pixel refresh features on monitors which help get rid of burn in aswell

toxic nova
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And it isnt boosting properly too

true stirrup
buoyant bridge
toxic nova
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There is no plastic film the cpu is not new

buoyant bridge
true stirrup
buoyant bridge
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Buy a thermalright tower cooler if you have the space

buoyant bridge
true stirrup
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And sometimes I'm blind
It happens

stray portal
ebon marlin
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Since I'm switching to am5 now I should prolly invest in some ptm

buoyant bridge
stray portal
ebon marlin
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My 5800x3d with fresh thermalpaste ran at 50-55⁰C under gaming load and after a year or two now it's running at 75⁰C~

ebon marlin
buoyant bridge
stray portal
ebon marlin
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I even make money on this upgrade

ebon marlin
stray portal
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sell mc seller

buoyant bridge
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NVM AMD apparently extended it to 5 generations for AM5

buoyant bridge
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Still less than AM4 but yeah that's a lot

ebon marlin
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I got a 7800x3d for 270€ and a B650 + X870 mobo for 110€

buoyant bridge
stray portal
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Amd is stoopid they should've made the 5500x3d worldwide

ebon marlin
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The mobos are untested but if one of em ends up working im in big moneh

buoyant bridge
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Something about the 3D V-Cache makes them get progressively harder to cool across the first 2-3 years

ebon marlin
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My thermalpaste has dried out by now

stray portal
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I don't remember what server this was on but some uninformed idiot claimed the 5500x3d isn't real and that I was making it up for attention

ebon marlin
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It's been like 2 years

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I'm using MX6 currently

ebon marlin
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Will get ptm aswell soon

toxic nova
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under load

stray portal
buoyant bridge
toxic nova
buoyant bridge
buoyant bridge
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That's what ended up fixing my old LGA 2011 systems overheating years ago

true stirrup
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Just get a better cooler and call it a day

buoyant bridge
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so I suggested it, best suggestion is just pickup a cheap tower cooler (thermalright spirit 120 is my recommendation)

cold skiff
buoyant bridge
cold skiff
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Well they get hotter because they’re being insulated. So the heat is trapped in the middle of the chip…

buoyant bridge
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no they increase heat production as they age...

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Doesn't matter if they're repasted or anything they do tend to run 6-10 degrees hotter after a year compared to new

cold skiff
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Weird that my 7800x3d doesn’t do that. You got a source confirming that?

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As it doesn’t make any sense it would generate more or less heat because of age. Perhaps if the composite layer changed in some way but I can’t imagine that happens

buoyant bridge
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electromigration maybe?

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I know that occurs on just about anything

cold skiff
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Uh. Now you’re speculating. If you get me a source that says that go for it. Otherwise you’re talking out your arse as what you just said is completely unfounded

buoyant bridge
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I've seen a lot of people complaining about them heating up with age

cold skiff
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Yeah that just caused exploding chips

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Exploding, burning up etc. ASUS had the worst of that when the 7800x3d came out

buoyant bridge
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AMD moment

cold skiff
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Nothing compared to Intel manufacturing 13th gen with oxidation issues…

ebon marlin
toxic nova
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Cheaper than thermalright

buoyant bridge
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be quiet is generally better but for a lot more money

toxic nova
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The thermalright was like $66

buoyant bridge
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Which thermalright is $66 AUD lmfao

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Even the top end stuff from thermalright is $40 USD

toxic nova
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Yeah everything is more expensive here

toxic nova
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For example my gpu is 700 usd in America or 975 usd here

ebon marlin
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I live in europe and I get my tech cheaper than the muricans

buoyant bridge
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Yeah I get that part but bequiet coolers r like $100 US lol

ebon marlin
buoyant bridge
mellow shadow
buoyant bridge
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in the EU both can't be unlocked

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(ISL/PSB are how OEM systems lock CPUs to the board)

ebon marlin
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Yeah man whatever that means

toxic nova
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Yeah the be quiet cooler im looking at is 26 usd

buoyant bridge
stray portal
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tuff it quiet and cool

buoyant bridge
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Intel's US stuff if you swap the CPU to another board ISL just disabled itself, PSB on the other hand does not (and isn't possible to disable period)

rigid fjord
ebon marlin
buoyant bridge
stray portal
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This seems like a dumb thing I hope whoever ecer does that mega dies

buoyant bridge
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so basically all the major OEMs

stray portal
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what the helly

buoyant bridge
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Intel thankfully makes it super easy to disable for US model stuff

ebon marlin
#

I'm buying consumer stuff not enterprise stuff

#

Fearmongering over nothing 💔

stray portal
buoyant bridge
#

Like newer optiplexs and thinkstations are attected

ebon marlin
#

Show me an optiplex with a 7800x3d

buoyant bridge
stray portal
#

Poopyplex are bad purchases who even gets them

buoyant bridge
stray portal
#

Mini pc in 2025

ebon marlin
ebon marlin
#

Got one with a 7500T to host my game servers

buoyant bridge
ebon marlin
#

Show me

stray portal
#

My school had a massive downgrade some months ago they went from Windows 8.1 pcs to Windows 11 aios

ebon marlin
#

I can't find any

stray portal
cold skiff
#

Atleast this guy is aptly named.. schizophrenic…. He’s talking some mad dribble this morning

buoyant bridge
stray portal
buoyant bridge
#

"had" AM5 7000 is EOPL now

stray portal
#

Also we have 2 it labs and one of them got upgraded first it stayed kinda the same but one of them got upgraded later and that one is much better now

#

Like hardware wise I think the one that got upgraded later has better stuff

buoyant bridge
#

There are no Ryzen 9000 Thinkstation P2s afaik because AMD is absolutely dying in the business market again

ebon marlin
cold skiff
#

Why does this guy have proper beef with AMD

buoyant bridge
buoyant bridge
#

that's why nobody makes business systems with AMD stuff for more than one or two generations

cold skiff
#

Yeah but you were beefing on AMD before that subject…

ebon marlin
cold skiff
#

Show me on the doll where Frank Azor hurt you

ebon marlin
#

Even spec sheets only show Intel

#

Is pal just making things up to get mad at

cold skiff
#

Probably the type of guy that bought a 285k and said it is better in games than a 9800x3d

ebon marlin
#

First time seeing that in a tech space

buoyant bridge
#

(Dell rebranded optiplex to pro recently)

#

X3D was only available for the 7th gen stuff which is out of production now though

#

and these systems all have PSB so the CPUs can't be upgraded except by approved AMD vendors

cold skiff
#

I don’t get why you care about this

ebon marlin
#

Exactly

#

Because it's the Pro chips no one buys those

#

Those don't even exist in the used market

buoyant bridge
ebon marlin
#

Just getting mad at nothing

cold skiff
#

Like it’s designed to be used in a setting where enhanced security matters. Where you upgrade / throw away an entire unit and not parts. So it makes sense.

buoyant bridge
cold skiff
#

You’re just getting mad at something that doesn’t affect you

ebon marlin
#

Getting mad at something that doesn't affect anyone

buoyant bridge
#

its not that people don't want them it's that AMD chose to make it so you CAN'T have them

cosmic idol
buoyant bridge
cold skiff
#

It’s enhanced secure boot… for businesses….

buoyant bridge
cold skiff
#

And?

ebon marlin
#

And?

buoyant bridge
#

AMD just uses it as an excuse to limit the used market

ebon marlin
#

Ok and

stray portal
charred hare
cosmic idol
buoyant bridge
cold skiff
#

So when a business in 5-10 years gets rid of the unit…. And there’s new CPUs out… it’s ewaste anyway.

cosmic idol
#

honestly nothing is truly ewaste

buoyant bridge
#

Ffs I daily drove a decade old PC till very recently

cold skiff
#

So you’re upset you can’t take and sell the cpu. You’re upset it’s stuck in a unit. Because it’s not ewaste… it’s just not resellable

cosmic idol
#

well, it can be waste in the terms of "I wouldn't use this for anything, not even a pc to remote into a server"
but you can still do stuff with it

cold skiff
#

I feel I’m going to get cancer reading more from this guy

buoyant bridge
#

usually the used market for CPUs comes from them being pulled from business systems by tech recyclers

cosmic idol
buoyant bridge
#

The volume of business systems ending up with tech recyclers HEAVY out numbers the custom built and consumer prebults

cosmic idol
#

there is no business used market in my city

#

it's all methheads or people upgrading their stuff

cold skiff
#

In the UK businesses sell whole units on, they don’t take them apart. They have to pay someone to do that

buoyant bridge
#

rare case, but again the whole reason AMD pro chips don't really exist on the used market is because AMD made it so you can't have a used market for them

cold skiff
#

I’m still confused as to why that matters

buoyant bridge
cold skiff
#

I guess I will come back if I can be told why it matters

cosmic idol
buoyant bridge
cosmic idol
#

💔 mb

#

I thought they were like new new

buoyant bridge
#

it came around during the A8 era and has been like this its entire life

proper gull
cosmic idol
#

honestly
businesses dont care
chances are, if they have the money to upgrade a fleet of desktops, they don't care about reselling browhat

true stirrup
buoyant bridge
cosmic idol
#

windows 8 felt like a fking toy

#

baby's first pc

buoyant bridge
#

businesses only keep systems for 2-3 years then they go to a recycler who will typically strip out resellable components and put them on the used market and then scrap the rest

cosmic idol
#

why aren't pro chips resellable sorry i kinda just entered

buoyant bridge
#

when they're first installed they blow specific efuses to pair themselves to the specific board they where installed in

#

If you find a pro CPU on the used market it's a new old stock CPU that never got installed into a pro system

true stirrup
buoyant bridge
cosmic idol
#

I kinda get the frustration, around the principal of it all, locking down pc hardware
but, in reality its probably not that big of a deal?? like
it would affect such a small amount of people

i get it, i just dont think it's that bad

cold skiff
#

It sounds a lot like someone who is salty they don’t have the opportunity to resell them

true stirrup
#

You are legit better off buying countless other processors

buoyant bridge
buoyant bridge
cold skiff
#

If anything. AMD is doing people a solid as they can be recycled for any rare earths in their chips

#

Just up to companies to do it

buoyant bridge
iron glen
true stirrup
buoyant bridge
cosmic idol
iron glen
#

1 sec lemme show you mine

cold skiff
iron glen
#

Nvm i can't

cosmic idol
#

if you're not standing on your desk to look at your monitor what are you doing

buoyant bridge
#

Also a lot of the systems the pro chips ship in (but not all) use boards that are locked into running windows via non disableable Secureboot and not being able to load new Secureboot keys

iron glen
cold skiff
#

So super series 50 gpus… what’s the crack all about there

#

(We need to get off this batshit topic)

iron glen
true stirrup
iron glen
#

Like besides make stuff unusable

buoyant bridge
#

and the boards typically are locked to windows

cosmic idol
iron glen
#

Hot damn

vital mist
#

has anyone bought an open box motherboard from newegg before and what was the condition of the board?

buoyant bridge
#

Hate AMD, Hate John Deere, Hate Ford
be okay with Intel but still hate them, love case, be okay with GM

buoyant bridge
vital mist
buoyant bridge
#

It had everything but the stickers yeah

vital mist
rigid fjord
rigid fjord
tawdry coyote
#

my bluetooth and other devices setting says "bluetooth is turned off" but i don't see a button to turn it on

#

how do i fix

latent pasture
#

maybe itll just auto turn on if u charge it

#

well for that one at least

tawdry coyote
#

it ain't matter

lapis talon
#

Planning on buying a laptop for school and some light gaming

#

But problem is, I've got nearly 0 clue what the specs should be

#

Already have a pc, so I might not be doing heavy gaming on the laptop

#

Or maybe I will

#

Budget is ~$950 USD

tawdry coyote
#

why gaming on laptop

latent pasture
tawdry coyote
#

that doesn't make sense

latent pasture
#

if need windows look for either amd or intel with a 200V cpu

sinful cobalt
#

Ouch. thats a compromise

latent pasture
#

why is that a compromise theyre good

sinful cobalt
#

no I just lagged out and that message just got sent after 3 mins

sinful cobalt
#

If you can get it within budget ofc

solar moat
rigid fjord
solar moat
#

lunar lake

#

4P/4LPE core

rigid fjord
solar moat
sinful cobalt
solar moat
#

258V will kill any cpu

#

but 258V is the name of a cpu

sinful cobalt
#

oh bruh

solar moat
#

voltage vs cpu name

sinful cobalt
#

258 volts into a 258v

solar moat
#

lol

sinful cobalt
#

to beyond

gaunt gulch
#

Is buying the tab s10+ worth it?
I need a tab for school work, light gaming, good screen for watching

latent pasture
# lapis talon Budget is ~$950 USD

if u dont want macbook
usually floats around 600-700, for oled screen, 17hr battery and can still get 50fps on 1200p medium cyberpunk 2077 for ''light' gaming

#

soldered ram is ngek tho

sinful cobalt
#

yooo were the first 2 photos rendered in 240p

latent pasture
#

idk its crisp and clear on my screen but if i take a screenshot the quality dies

#

the youtube vid is in 1080p

sinful cobalt
#

afaik thats like the most efficient intel laptop cpu atm

rigid fjord
#

blame discord compression

sinful cobalt
#

took a page straight outta amd’s fsr 3 notebook

latent pasture
#

anyway yeah intel 200v in laptops is goated

lapis talon
#

I'm in Bangladesh and prices are crazy here

#

It's impossible to get a good deal

sinful cobalt
lapis talon
latent pasture
#

theyre gonna be using the pc for big work anyway
16 is fine

lapis talon
#

$850 USD for a RTX 2050 laptop 🥀

lapis talon
#

And I can just upgrade the memory later if needed

#

Although I'd rather use Linux with 16gb nowadays

#

I would go for MacBook but I like my freedom with messing around with stuff on my system

latent pasture
sinful cobalt
#

yeah most laptops i browsed had soldered ram

lapis talon
#

I'm cooked

sinful cobalt
#

i went for an open box laptop with soldered 32gb ram

latent pasture
#

but if u arent doing big workload anway even an older zen2+ or 12th gen+ laptop is fine

#

unless u have high battery requirements

lapis talon
#

But I would prefer some musclepower even if it meant sacrificing the weight

#

I'll be using it for gaming when I'm at my cousin's or sum

#

Mobile data is pretty slow here so moonlight isn't useful

#

Hence the need for high specs

sinful cobalt
#

bring ur own egpu when u wanna game

cold skiff
#

Nothing wrong with soldered ram. Just get enough of it

lapis talon
lapis talon
lapis talon
#

In my currency, budget would be around 115k

lapis talon
cold skiff
#

Oof that budget is rough. Like a 3050 laptop budget

latent pasture
#

how careful r u with ur laptop
a lot of stuff that are good in everything except theyre in a plastic body r like <60k

sinful cobalt
lapis talon
lapis talon
#

Wb gaming ones

#

Those are over 150k 🥀

#

That's like $1300 USD

cold skiff
#

Christ your budget is £700

#

How is that the best you can get for that money. Feels bad

rigid fjord
cold skiff
lapis talon
#

My friend got a MSI katana smth smth around a year ago for $800 USD with a 4060 from Australia

#

I've been eyeing that but like

rigid fjord
lapis talon
#

I don't know anyone in Australia

cold skiff
#

I thought India was just about making scam phone calls to the UK?

toxic nova
lapis talon
frail delta
lapis talon
sinful cobalt
#

not trynna be racist or anything but I’d never go to India, my concerns in that country would skyrocket

lapis talon
#

It's very loud when the fans are cranked up

cold skiff
rigid fjord
lapis talon
lapis talon
#

Can't even find secondhand here

rigid fjord
lapis talon
#

Lmao

lapis talon
cold skiff
#

It’s like a game of dodgeball but with cars

lapis talon
#

Our streets are way more chaotic

#

That's one of the first things I learned as a kid 💀

rigid fjord
cold skiff
#

I should mention the cars are the ball

lapis talon
sinful cobalt
#

“try living in india for 1 day”

BOLD. AND STUPID

lapis talon
#

Though I went to a somewhat more "developed" part of India

rigid fjord
lapis talon
rigid fjord
sinful cobalt
#

idk why but in valorant indians always have egos

#

like its always the indians complaining and starting shit up

lapis talon
rigid fjord
lapis talon
#

Just piss them off with don't redeem if they bother you for too long

lapis talon
sinful cobalt
lapis talon
#

I'll have to leave my country before the next election 🫡

sinful cobalt
#

“beta dont redeem it beta why did you redeem it”

lapis talon
#

It's worse when they're shit talking me because I somewhat understand their language

sinful cobalt
#

“dude dude ur so smelly I can smell your disgusting ahh through the screen” LOL that fucker knows how to be fkin racist

lapis talon
#

The fact that our old PM escaped to live with India's PM 🥀

lapis talon
#

I saw that there are stray COWS on their streets

#

Just roaming around freely

#

On the busy roads as well

sinful cobalt
#

indians generally just have big egos online

lapis talon
#

'developed' btw

sinful cobalt
#

or should I just remove the online part

lapis talon
lapis talon
#

They're the same irl

sinful cobalt
#

like idk man nevermind the racist shit like showering and dont redeem it but like they are always trynna start shit

lapis talon
#

Prove them wrong, they'll play the victim card

lapis talon
#

But we couldn't say anything for like 14 years because if we did, we'd get abducted by the govt and go missing 💀

#

Anyways the laptop

steel umbra
#

I'm a Sparky, I charge forever and then I die to three skeletons

lapis talon
#

Is there any way to use the 2060S I have with the laptop without going broke

sinful cobalt
#

then one day she decided “alr fuck you im out”

lapis talon
#

Id rather not work for Indians if I could

sinful cobalt
#

now that company regret that decision 😂

lapis talon
sinful cobalt
#

few months later they still couldnt find a proper replacement

sinful cobalt
#

everytime new indian manager they always piss her off

lapis talon
#

(ironic for me, a Bangladeshi to say that)

sinful cobalt
#

thing is her managers before werent indian at all

lapis talon
#

Imagine dealing with them every single day

#

Id die on spot

sinful cobalt
#

Like every new manager thereafter were always Male Indians and always piss her off

rigid fjord
lapis talon
#

That's what happens when Indians get power

lapis talon
#

I personally don't like beef because of the taste and texture but

sinful cobalt
#

the only humble indians I’ve seen were only in the employee role lmao

lapis talon
#

They get so offended when you mention that you eat beef 💀

sinful cobalt
#

but I’d still say its still biased towards very egotistical and wont admit their mistake

lapis talon
#

Give them a small promotion and their ego becomes overinflated

lapis talon
#

Some dude messaged me and shit talked me for supporting Palestine a while ago

sinful cobalt
#

There was one other indian dude at my internship- Most of us think of him like a Snake and he drove the truck like shit

rigid fjord
lapis talon
#

And would NOT listen to anything I was saying because he was right

lapis talon
sinful cobalt
#

Like when he drove the truck there was no sense of safety, weight shifting at all- The humble dude also drove like that at first albeit softer, he improved overtime

#

Other guy still drove, like shit.

lapis talon
#

Doesn't even have to be outside of India for their egos to turn into hot air balloons

sinful cobalt
#

Ok but if ur egotistical at least admit to ur mistake or make valid points- I have alotta ego but I’d say im not 100% pointing in one direction

lapis talon
sinful cobalt
#

put a cup of water in the vehicle and that water is spilled all over before getting outta the carpark

lapis talon
#

Indians don't, they just need to win an argument

sinful cobalt
#

another type of egotistical people (apart from indians) i hate are the ones that act so delusional

quiet light
#

is there an app or something for music control? on windows?
like something i can put in my second display

lapis talon
#

I'm introverted so I haven't gotten into many arguments irl yet

sinful cobalt
rigid fjord
lapis talon
#

They piss me off so much

sinful cobalt
#

I know one, my classmate-I havent opened the dumpster fire on him yet

lapis talon
#

I sometimes want to open up their thick skulls and see if there's anything in there

sinful cobalt
#

He’s so delusional, calling me low rank in valorant, a fuckass game I dont play much while he has a 1.6 GPA last term

#

I already have his combat data to flame his fuckin ass out

lapis talon
#

Specifically because I'm from somewhere that's next to India

sinful cobalt
#

idk you are you im not gonna compare you to others

lapis talon
#

Why do I hear the steam link sound from a slide thing in a meeting room

lapis talon
#

I think I'm done upgrading my pc for the next 4-5 years

pulsar obsidian
#

I hate how samsung doesnt release updates all at once for every device in every country

sinful cobalt
#

Im likely to just leave my X870 Assrock steel legend and 9800x3d as is

pulsar obsidian
#

Im getting OneUI 8 on my watch before my phone.....

sinful cobalt
lapis talon
#

I won't be updating my phone to Oneui8.5 solely because of the huge chance of getting a nor-so-nice vertical line on my screen

lapis talon
lapis talon
#

Well wait yeah obviously

pulsar obsidian
lapis talon
#

I'm still on OneUI 6 on my watch 6

pulsar obsidian
lapis talon
lapis talon
pulsar obsidian
#

As a samsung family hub owner do not buy one

lapis talon
#

Sheeesh alright

pulsar obsidian
#

Only useful thing is maybe the internet browser

lapis talon
#

Speaking of fridges, I think it's time my grandparents moved on from their ancient fridge

pulsar obsidian
#

Googling recipes and conversions

lapis talon
pulsar obsidian
pulsar obsidian
lapis talon
lapis talon
#

Something I would try

#

I played Forza on my watch 6 using moonlight streaming

pulsar obsidian
#

Trying to use wireless debugging on a fridge is not easy

lapis talon
#

If it's tech, I'm doomed to try something dumb

pulsar obsidian
#

And it doesnt help that the wifi AP is on the other side of the house

lapis talon
#

That is something

pulsar obsidian
#

There's a cat6 cable in one of the cabinets somewhere maybe that's something I should consider installing is a AP

lapis talon
#

I'm going to design my family's apartment tonight

#

But I got 0 clue on what to so

#

Do*

#

I wanna put the kitchen applies spaced out like they do in the US

lapis talon
#

I just realized there's a huge problem

pulsar obsidian
#

Whats it?,

lapis talon
#

There's no gigabit internet at the next apartment

#

The location is pretty

#

Empty?

pulsar obsidian
lapis talon
#

Any advice on the layout of the apartment

pulsar obsidian
#

Not my shitty rural internet being as shitty as possible

lapis talon
#

I wanted to put two bedrooms on the front of the house as there's a direct lake view

lapis talon
lapis talon
pulsar obsidian
pulsar obsidian
lapis talon
pulsar obsidian
#

I was gonna buy the 40mm but they were out of stock and it was gonna take them a month to get me one

lapis talon
#

I wanted a 42mm non lte watch 6 classic but wrist too thin

pulsar obsidian
lapis talon
pulsar obsidian
#

Wait no that's euro

lapis talon
#

Like I pay $13 USD for 200-500+ Mbps

lapis talon
lapis talon
#

We recently got starlink in Bangladesh

#

But I haven't seen anyone using it realistically except for businesses

#

Rather than the setup cost, the monthly bill is wayyy too much

pulsar obsidian
#

So im spending 150NZ$(86US) for 60mbps

lapis talon
#

$50-$80 USD for 150-300 Mbps Vs $13 for gigabit internet

lapis talon
pulsar obsidian
#

Starlink is 159NZ$

lapis talon
#

But I'm sure that's your own personal IP

pulsar obsidian
lapis talon
#

The cheap plans here like my one, use shared ip

#

So a lot of limitations

lapis talon
pulsar obsidian
#

There's a dish on my house that goes to a tower on a mountain nearby

lapis talon
#

That's expensive

lapis talon
#

Y'all got mountains there 🥀

pulsar obsidian
lapis talon
pulsar obsidian
#

It's not cheap to live in the country

lapis talon
#

I'd still take shared ip if it's gigabit because

#

I don't need some extra features

#

That come with real ip

lapis talon
pulsar obsidian
#

I would rather use 5g wireless than what ive got right now

lapis talon
#

How much is mobile data there

pulsar obsidian
lapis talon
#

Yo wait that's sick

pulsar obsidian
#

And I get free calls and texts overseas

#

To some places

lapis talon
#

I would pay that over paying $7-8 for a set amount of data and call for a month

lapis talon
pulsar obsidian
#

I think the calls are like 180 minutes and around 500 texts

lapis talon
lapis talon
lapis talon
pulsar obsidian
#

There's probably a list somewhere

lapis talon
#

You can call people online most of the time

#

The fact that we finally got 5G in our country a month ago but can't use it

#

A s24 ultra hasn't been approved by the carrier 💀