tech-chat-1

[ebon marlin]

Google uses shock collars in their servers? 🤔

Very interesting how Google is one step ahead of the competition

[unkempt blaze]

R5 5600X or R7 5700X? upgrading from 3600. Need suggestions pls.

[pulsar root]

weirdo

[left dove]

nuh uh, you

[latent pasture]

aliexpress 5700x3d

[ebon marlin]

Personally I'd recommend saving until you can afford to do a platform upgrade

Or that

How good are AliExpress 5700x3d deals

[latent pasture]

actually even aliexpress 5700x3d prices are too up

[ebon marlin]

How good were they b4

First time hearing about AliExpress 5700x3d's

300-400€

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-oh-my-god-bruh-saleswoman-oh-my-god-bruh-gif-2398788864743270124

[latent pasture]

theyre $250+ now
user anecdotes say many have gotten them at $120-150

[unkempt blaze]

i wanna enjoy bf6 on my rig 😭

[ebon marlin]

3600 + 5700xt should have you run at 70-90fps at low/medium at 1080p

If you want to have better performance in games I'd look at a gpu upgrade instead

[unkempt blaze]

I've 6700XT 12gb

[carmine yew]

9060 XT 16GB or 5060 TI 16GB

Those are the choices. Buying an 8gb card today is a bad move

[unkempt blaze]

in conquest closed maps, fps drop below 50's

[latent pasture]

hmmge

[ebon marlin]

They need that extra 3fps you wouldn't understand

[latent pasture]

meanwhile 5000x3d is up over 140fps

[left dove]

rip lol

[solar moat]

i going to make a bet it scails well with memory

[carmine yew]

I'm really curious what BF6 scales off, because those numbers are odd

[unkempt blaze]

it depends on map tbh. in tdm map where we have 8 players i can rock 100+ fps

but in big modes its barely 60

[latent pasture]

hwubs test was running thru a street full of fighting bots on empire state

[solar moat]

it dose not realy care from 16 to 32MB but loads from 32 to 96 and it scails of lower latacny/some amount off bandwith

[carmine yew]

you're talking about cache, got it

[solar moat]

in this makes me think of some a n64 game

[left trellis]

is 650 for a 7900xtx goated or nah

[winged sky]

Oh god

[latent pasture]

yes

[tall flower]

Need some help finding a GPU for a build my cousin's commissioned me for. I'm looking for 3060ish or better performance for ≤$200 usd BUT with an overall length less than 235mm. Used is OK. So far I've found a few MSI Nvidia cards and some off-brand 6500/6600XTs. Anyone know what other brands I should try?

[carmine yew]

I'd probably get a 9070 XT over a 7900 XTX at about the same price.

[ebon marlin]

What about 5070 ti/9070xt

[left trellis]

just go to am5 twin 😭

[latent pasture]

fsr4 might be coming anyway

[ebon marlin]

Won't be as good

[left trellis]

wait thats genius

[carmine yew]

might

I know hacks exist already, but might is not something to bet on

[winged sky]

Honestly it would be way cheaper to buy off ebay

[ebon marlin]

My brand new 7800x3d costs less than that aswell

[solar moat]

just get 14600k

or some arrow lake cpu

[ebon marlin]

Why would i want absolute dogshit

[latent pasture]

roll d20 for cpu death

[solar moat]

realy?

[latent pasture]

i assume the context was getting it used

[ebon marlin]

I'm pretty sure a 14600k would be a downgrade from my current 5800x3d aswell 😭

[winged sky]

It was only really an issue with higher end chips iirc but yes 14th Gen Intel had some spontaneous death issues

[ebon marlin]

I saw a used 14900k recently for 250€ with warranty on it still

[left trellis]

they fixed it tho no?

[solar moat]

thats not that funny of joke

[winged sky]

Its not a joke?

[pale flint]

its funny if you'r the one who said it

[normal elbow]

Do you guys think whale lans will get more frequent, it sounds like the first one went pretty well.

[solar moat]

ask the boss

[winged sky]

As long as it does well I dont see why not

[left trellis]

p sure a 14600k is better

[solar moat]

it is

[sly bolt]

ok

[winged sky]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-wrong-oscar-the-grouch-ding-dong-gif-25943635

[latent pasture]

depends on the game

in a lot of stuff ye the brute force st of 14600k wins

[carmine yew]

They're not going to be that far apart

I would 100% not burn money to go LGA1700 from a 5800x3d

[left trellis]

mostly better or near equal looking at this small sample size

[winged sky]

That 3dcache helps a ton

[ebon marlin]

I bought 2 untested b650/x670e boards aswell wanna test them out aswell

They just had like 1-2 pins bent

Worth the gamble as I can sell them off for more or same price as I paid for em

110€ for both + shipping so 120€

Hmm

[woven wigeon]

could we give a moment of silence to old laptops for being so repairable? just 1 screw to see the ssd ram wifi and more and also there are even guides showing whitch screws unscrew what things

[ebon marlin]

Oh the horrors we moved from 1 screw to 8 screws to be able to keep the laptop light

[woven wigeon]

nah this bad boy has a battery of round cells 🗿

[woven wigeon]

mfg date 2014/7

[cold skiff]

Can’t wait for plastic hand screws instead for more weight saving

[woven wigeon]

still holds a charge

[ebon marlin]

I have a Dell Precision 7550, Lenovo Loq Essential 9th Gen, couple Acer Nitro 5's, Huawei Matebook 2020, Lenovo Legion 5 2021 and an Acer Swift 14 Go OLED and all of them was just unscrew a couple screws and you have access to quite literally everything

[normal elbow]

It'd be really cool to camp on the way to BC, there's a lot of MTNs and hiking trails with views the whole way from MN.

I really want to turn a whale lan into like a 2 week getaway with camping and gaming. I wish Linus would do a gaming tent xD

[cold skiff]

So does Kiara

[woven wigeon]

lasts abt 3 hours on light gaming

[cold skiff]

Not sure that’s healthy for Kiara

[ebon marlin]

If you regularly charge a battery every few months to a half a year you can easily maintain a battery's life

[cold skiff]

She can do like 200ms

[woven wigeon]

its mostly unplugged

not enough space on a 3 socket power bar

[left dove]

my fork bag uses plastic screws to tighten zipties like a hose clamp. they're strong little nylon bits

[shadow zealot]

guys how is the sony dcr sr47 i bought it back in 2009 like what tier of handycam was it?

[carmine yew]

you're asking randoms how a 16 year old camcorder is? lol

[woven wigeon]

also ramdom question: why does my laptop smell like some nail polish ONLY when i get back from svhool and its not plugged in

[left dove]

[cold skiff]

Tbh it works. The only reason plastic don’t work for laptops is ragey little FC26 kids

[left dove]

[cold skiff]

I bet that the fellar plays fc26

[ebon marlin]

Oh my god bruh I just lightly wiped a surface with isopropyl alcohol with a tissue and after that I blew my nose with the same tissue ough my nostril feels weird

[carmine yew]

so a quick google tells me, it's a fuckin' potato:

[left dove]

casually opening up your sinuses no biggie

[carmine yew]

nah, biggie's gone

[left dove]

good riddance

[cold skiff]

Worst that can happen is you’ve got nostrils big enough to do 1g in 1 line

[left dove]

LMAO

[carmine yew]

that's called a heart attack

[cold skiff]

That’s a win tbfh. Give me that alcohol wipe

[ebon marlin]

I haven't consumed alcohol in years now I wonder if that counts as alcohol consumption

[left dove]

vaguely

[carmine yew]

iso is different alcohol, so no

[left dove]

wait "in years" catto how old are you

[carmine yew]

ethanol, methanol, and isopropyl are all very different things

[cold skiff]

So if I sniff something… it can count as consumption?

[normal elbow]

YES.

[cold skiff]

I best not tie my shoe laces in the men’s bathroom anymore

[carmine yew]

google: vaping booze

It's actually a thing

[left dove]

[ebon marlin]

19 but I turn 20 in very early December

[left dove]

stop your underage drinking

[ebon marlin]

Eu doesn't have the same laws as the US

[cold skiff]

Only in America can that be considered under age drinking

[pale flint]

i have seen 14 year olds drink

[solar moat]

ITS NOT FOR ME

[cold skiff]

In the UK we start at 14

Legally it’s 18

[left dove]

what? literally nobody was talking to you

[pale flint]

i have never drunk

[cold skiff]

Think France is like 12 with food.

[left dove]

Also yall shouldnt be drinking until you're in your mid 20's

[cold skiff]

I wish I could get an IV drip

[left dove]

you only get one liver

[cold skiff]

Then you have kids and in your 30s you don’t drink

Then in your 40s when they’re older you go more mental than ya 20s

[left dove]

Jokes on you I can't have kids, I'm sterile

[ebon marlin]

noob

[cold skiff]

Adoption is cute tbh.

[left dove]

no kids for me, only furbabies

[pale flint]

whats that

[cold skiff]

A needle with a line to a bag of liquid. Like in hospital

[swift stream]

be so fr why was this needed

[cold skiff]

Drunk doctors water IV themselves to get over hangovers

Alcoholics IV drip vodka for fun

[ebon marlin]

What is this

[swift stream]

rivals is adding voice changers, but then you gonna have the femboys trying to pick up dates 😔 🥀

[left dove]

oh its this fucking kid

[ebon marlin]

Thought ppl only do that stuff in Valorant

Back when I played Valorant ppl were using it as a dating app

[left dove]

LMAO

[ebon marlin]

Literally every single match I had someone was trying to edate

[left dove]

sad tbh

[ebon marlin]

I shortly dropped the game after that I couldn't take the game seriously when ppl are trying to date mid-match in a competitive game

[left dove]

"back off my girl and go defend a"

[swift stream]

i thought you blocked me

[ebon marlin]

The amount of people I saw with "femboy" in their names oh my god bruh

[ebon marlin]

Discord's block system doesn't do jackshit

[kindred halo]

Physics this year isn't annoying but the teacher just throws Information way too quickly

I barely understand shit

[ebon marlin]

Does ur school offer special ed

[kindred halo]

No

[left dove]

sadge

[kindred halo]

Also my other classmates agreed

[left dove]

perchance discuss it with the teacher

[kindred halo]

So errrr
Well, I do kinda need special ed but not my fault on this one

[swift stream]

besides I changed my bio to something more relatable

[kindred halo]

Other classmates tried, same thing

[left dove]

sadge 2, electric boogaloo

oh my god i cannot spell today

[kindred halo]

I am slowly learning stuff from my friends anyway

Just learned that the charge can be gotten by multiplying the excess/deficit with the elementary charge!!!

[swift stream]

riot makes it a challenge to uninstall their game because riot client still runs in background after

[kindred halo]

So in this case 10^15 * 1.6x10^-19

[left dove]

nerd

[swift stream]

math is too advanced just use desmos

[kindred halo]

What're desmos

[kindred halo]

It's just electron excess multiplied by elementary charge....................

[thin plover]

math graphing website

[swift stream]

new youtube ui is ugly

[ebon marlin]

Eh not a big deal

You're watching the video not the UI

[kindred halo]

Anyway continuing hw

Thanks for the short convo :>

[quick stag]

its kinda trying to look like ios 26

[swift stream]

it was on desktop too unless you have ublock orgin enabled

[quick stag]

yeah i know

[ebon marlin]

In no way it's similar to ios 26 what the hell are you talking about

[quick stag]

i dont care honestly

[swift stream]

clear as hell

[quick stag]

(from a random site)

[swift stream]

reminder

[quick stag]

its seperated like that

[ebon marlin]

There's no similarity to this and to ios 26

[high minnow]

Dude i just found out my psu that i bought from microcenter fried my motherboard

[ebon marlin]

Lovely

[high minnow]

Right

[ebon marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-yakuza-kiwami2-kiryu-kiryu-kazuma-love-gif-18664318

[quick stag]

yes there is

[high minnow]

They are telling me i need to buy a brand new motherboard

[quick stag]

yay

[high minnow]

Think theyll give me a new one at a discount ?

[ebon marlin]

This design is not new at all

[left dove]

yooo spotify now lists the key that the song's in

that's cool as fuck

[ebon marlin]

🧩

[prime fox]

What would be a good mic for 60 euros do mic my amp?

[craggy cove]

gl to whoever just bought this

[winged sky]

this is the first thing I see opening discord lmao

[stable beacon]

okay so i copied all my files using testdisk, is there still a way to make it show up again as if nothing happened or do i have to rewrite everything that was copied from it

it's all there i just need to know before i reallocate the drive

[steel umbra]

well, depends on date of the psu

the newer ones of p-gm don’t blow up

[abstract wigeon]

why i update windows and my windows and alt key are switched

[prime fox]

Mis asi see on 😭😭

[craggy cove]

pomm

[craggy cove]

i think the aorus ones

[prime fox]

Pigem on jah

[drifting urchin]

it came from reddit

[random gyro]

😭

ok but if the gpu is overheating, what else could have possibly been done lmao

assuming its clean and repasted

[raw trout]

What

[azure topaz]

put it in the proper slot so it has airflow

the fan on the backplate isn’t doing shit lol

and i whole heartedly don’t believe someone who zip tied a fan on the backplate of a graphics card even bothered to open it lol

[left dove]

The note/key the song is produced in?

[wet ember]

Is my power cable not compatible???

[left dove]

card should have come with an adapter

[azure topaz]

using your eyes, what do you think

indeed

you’ll probably need 3 pcie plugs

[steel umbra]

nop

I like how gn ruined gigabyte’s psu rep. even after they’re mostly fine now

[azure topaz]

means cheaper psus for us

[steel umbra]

though yeah, gigabyte should’ve responded better

[left dove]

GN seems to like ruining reputations as of late

[steel umbra]

there are brands now with explosive or fire hazard psus like lian li

[normal elbow]

I'm surprised people don't get like 3 tvs that are like 65 inches mount them in a row and have an ultra wide huge watching experience.

[steel umbra]

thermaltake is even shittier about psus than gigabyte is, silently swapping insides of a model

and no, it’s not an upgrade or side grade

[winged sky]

https://tenor.com/view/gigabyte-psu-gamers-nexus-pc-bomb-planted-gif-22845602

[azure topaz]

thermaltake i simply dont buy period

[random gyro]

holy shit didnt even notice that lmao

[azure topaz]

normally im not a buy by brand guy but i just dont buy thermaltake

it could be 60$ and 1000w and a tier but if its from thermaltake i am not buying it

[random gyro]

agreed. i have a beef with Thermaltake too

[normal elbow]

What's your issue with thermal take?

[robust trail]

https://tenor.com/view/rekt-savage-brutal-absolutely-taken-down-announcer-gif-15115500

[wet ember]

Shit I need to buy another pci cable

[azure topaz]

above comments, had a brand new unit of theirs kill a video card under 0 load

[winged sky]

ouch

[azure topaz]

yeah not a fan

[random gyro]

they sold me an ITX case marketed as an mATX just because mATX technically fits in it ✌️

[normal elbow]

Oh, I went croshair. I'm really glad I did.

[azure topaz]

they didnt even let me warranty the unit let alone get me a new gpu

fuck you thermaltake

[winged sky]

oh thats a bit scummy

[winged sky]

and that is 100% scummy

[azure topaz]

😭 like

[azure topaz]

yes i do not fw thermaltake

i respect it in other lists (as long as the product is rreviewed as fine) but i dont purchase it

[carmine light]

wtf where is sim

[azure topaz]

chat do i buy a W1250 or wait for my boss to sell me/give me his 10400

[azure topaz]

left server, prolly got too fed up with idiots, so valid

[normal elbow]

Yeah. I think consumer unions should be a thing , where a group of people back boy cott, and if it's a large group can be cheap to get a lawyer to hold companies responsible. There's too much crap that's designed to break so you have to get a new one.

[carmine light]

damn whos gonna talk here anymore without sim

[wet ember]

Damn I actually need a new PSU

[azure topaz]

for something with 12vhpwr, i agree

is that a CX series?

[wet ember]

CX550M I was hoping to get away with it

[rigid fjord]

don't forget the previous fire hazard cases from nzxt

[azure topaz]

what card?

[random gyro]

CX550 is horrible though

[wet ember]

But no worries, the 4080 super is going into my new PC, not old one. The rest of my parts haven't arrived yet

[azure topaz]

yeah dont try to turn it on homeboy

even with an adaptor lol 💀

[rigid fjord]

what case was it exactly?

[rigid fjord]

for a tier C psu, it's still decent

[azure topaz]

its a fine unit

just not for a gpu thatll draw 320+w

[rigid fjord]

though if we was talking about the earlier green models, than the modern grey/white labelled ones it would be a different story

[random gyro]

view 170 tg argb

[azure topaz]

what doesnt fit? looks matx to me dawg

[random gyro]

cx550 is D tier tho. 650 and up are C

[rigid fjord]

ah, definitely a micro-atx case then

[random gyro]

it looks like it until you try to actually slot an matx board in it. like i managed but the cables were so messed up and i had to route the 24 pin cable through the upper hole above the mobo cuz it covered the rear holes and half the fans

[azure topaz]

thats what they do in product pictures

[rigid fjord]

for the 2023 black label yes, but if you had a 2016 grey labelled one, no it's tier B/c

[random gyro]

where did you get this image from? i literally didnt see any other than just pure case pics

[azure topaz]

their website

[rigid fjord]

from their website

[azure topaz]

even gooder

[steel umbra]

cx550 and 450 were downgraded yes

still, we get stuff like montech apx

[random gyro]

where were these pics when i was buying ts 😭 🙏

[azure topaz]

one of these might do wonders

[random gyro]

peak consumerism

[azure topaz]

though i do not condone extensions

[rigid fjord]

on their website, and with basic google searching

[azure topaz]

upset that i like my things i pay thousands of dollars for to look good

the difference of price in 2 good computers one aesthetically driven and one "i dont care" is really not that large

[random gyro]

i was just putting shit in my cart in the online store dawg. its not like i was doing some crazy research outside of it

[rigid fjord]

it's not even doing any crazy research, it's basic google usage

[ocean axle]

i thought i scrolled down all the way, i did not

[random gyro]

im saying i was just browsing through the store's selection not outside of it. i didnt really bother searching up something i had in front of me

[rigid fjord]

lol, only cx-m and tx-m are their semi modulars you'd normally see, the cx-f which was fully modular got discontinued though

[sinful cobalt]

I was thinking of getting this cable for the 5090- They stated it doesnt work, nor would I think anybody would recommend it lmao

[azure topaz]

lol

[outer dagger]

Hey all, kind of a random statement here, but I am a staff member of another server and some guy named Ratchet is a mega troll over there.

I saw this channels tag in his profile and followed him here as a warning just in case

[left dove]

we know about him

he's mega dumb

is he trying to get help with his stupid "2 gamers 1 pc" shit

[rapid lake]

needs some opinions

core ultra 9 285k or 9950x for adobe after effects and 4k video editing?

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/idiocracy-idiocracy-movie-movie-idiocracy-luke-wilson-gif-5372983730459315256

[outer dagger]

Oh ok good, because he tells people to do stupid shit like set your fans to 0% to test them out. Claims he is from Europe, Egypt, and all sorts of other wild inconsistencies

[left dove]

yeah he's a complete clown

[outer dagger]

I help out in a channel for Linux fan control software

[left dove]

my advice? just ban the dimwit

It will save you so much headache

[outer dagger]

We did it twice with other accounts of his, but he just comes back with another. He previously went by SteavenYT, and Amir

[left dove]

Noted, thanks for that

[outer dagger]

He's pretty easy to identify regardless because he always mentions a dual GPU computer, pestering questions about thermal paste, and asking for troubleshooting assistance but then when receives it thinks he knows better

[left dove]

thats all he did here

[outer dagger]

Anyways, that's all I got. Just wanted to give a heads up just in case

[left dove]

o7

[left trellis]

9950x

but depends on pricing theyre both top of the line

[rapid lake]

isnt intel favored in adobe apps?

[left trellis]

maybe in general? couldnt say, but at the very top of the line amd is slightly better\

might also just be manufacturing differences that prioritize certain aspects over others idrk

the only time brand is pivotal is gpu tbh

what are the prices on each

[rigid fjord]

to second peyton, he's a fuckwit that should be booted

[rapid lake]

similar, but i see in benchmarks that intel tops for video editing and after effects

[ocean axle]

how big is the difference?
a thing to consider w/ AM5 is that it'll be getting another generation of CPU, which i wouldn't be so sure of for arrow the knee

[left trellis]

not much

second image doesnt have the non x3d variant but it shows just how close all of the high end cpus are

even compared to threadrippers and such

[ocean axle]

isn't AMD beating intel, basicall across the board there?

[left trellis]

for after effects p much

[rapid lake]

this is getting confusing

[ocean axle]

to me, seems to be a both are fast, pick based on other factors

[left trellis]

this tbh

[left trellis]

idk about the cpu comparison bc I genuinely dont know if its user generated data or from the same person 😭

user data can be iffy bc if other things are changing it can effect results as opposed to cpu differences, I really dont know tho LOL thats why I just used the other ones

it might not be tho so no real telling

[rapid lake]

il consider intel tbh, its for someone else system but they said they NEED it for adobe after effects and premiere pro, so yeah

for this use case seems valid

[left trellis]

oh let me check premiere benchmarks then too

[rapid lake]

they are about the same

[left trellis]

285k has a bigger max memory capacity

after effects is extremely ram consuming so that could help

256gb vs 192

[azure topaz]

256gb is possible on both

ignore the benchmark

[tired bear]

256 is doable but speed wont be good

[azure topaz]

yeah this guy peaked at 5k

[tired bear]

yep 3600

[azure topaz]

yeah

although i bet with proper skill you coulod get 5600 or something at least passable

[tired bear]

if you really need more than 196 then go to hedt platform

[azure topaz]

yeah

[left trellis]

huh thats interesting

[rapid lake]

is 96gb enough?

[tired bear]

could one stick 4x 96gb in the mobo and be fine with it?

[left trellis]

enough varies wildly but maybe

[azure topaz]

i would assume no, the board/chipset is limited to 256gb

[left trellis]

I know at least 1 person with 128, I havent asked many other people

[azure topaz]

amd limits more than 256GB to epyc and such

usually 128 is the most i see for anyone photo/video edting

[left trellis]

its mostly based on timeline length, and resolution iirc

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-you-gif-8690903

[azure topaz]

128 and decent speeds are doable

people have gotten 6k+ on all d5 platforms (besides 12th) on 128gb

[left trellis]

64 is chill enough for me

[azure topaz]

valid

[left trellis]

but for other might not be

I havent been on after effects in a minute tho 😭

[tired bear]

64 works great

[left trellis]

Im clocked at 3000 tho LOL

ddr4

[cosmic lance]

Can I use usb inside my pc?

[tired bear]

mt/s not mhz

[stark flicker]

For 70eur do you guys buy the ASUS ROG Strix OLED XG32UCWMG or the XG32UCWG ?

[left trellis]

oh mts is doubled right

[left trellis]

70?

[cosmic lance]

He pays shipping and he gets a free product

[stark flicker]

70eur of difference between both

[left trellis]

OH

[cosmic lance]

learn to fucking spell please

[stark flicker]

I'm sorry I written that too fast and i'm not native english

[left trellis]

its okay LOL

I honestly am not tapped into peripherals so no clue, was just curious about the price

[stark flicker]

yeah it's 930eur so not that cheap haha

[tired bear]

there are folks here who are crazy abt oleds but they arent online rn

[stark flicker]

I am crazy about oled and already own 2 4k oled displays (without counting my 4k oled laptop)

I just never tried 240Hz and it's the only difference between both monitors, 165Hz vs 240Hz

[tired bear]

@teal sinew wdyt?

[teal sinew]

XG32UCWMG easily

a 70 euro saving by losing a ton of refresh rate sucks

165Hz -> 240Hz is a huge upgrade on OLED

[stark flicker]

Yeah ok

And it's overall a good idea to buy this one ?

[teal sinew]

that’s the best gaming monitor atm

[stark flicker]

perfect

I'm just finishing the monitors unboxed review, he is saying the same too

Guess I'll buy this one then

[distant frigate]

Messy lmao. Fiber distribution box next to taps next to an amplifier

[ebon marlin]

is it the tandem semi-glossy woled monitor

[teal sinew]

it’s fully glossy and not tandem

[ebon marlin]

ay caramba

[stark flicker]

There are no tandem yet no ?

[ebon marlin]

I'm still waiting for a tandem qd-oled glossy monitor to release

[teal sinew]

no glossy tandem 2160p woled until mid 2026

[ebon marlin]

there's 2 a Gigabyte one and a Asus one

but they're 1440p only iirc

[teal sinew]

qd oled is already “tandem”

[stark flicker]

tandem qd oled doesn't make much sense I believe, because it's how LG will achieve "true rgb" but qd oled are already true rgb

[distant frigate]

Cox should honestly just tear out all the coax here and go full fiber everywhere. They are literally maintaining two different networks atp

[stark flicker]

Oh yeah, huge deal breaker

[ebon marlin]

so no proper tandem qd-oled coming out? 💔

[stark flicker]

They don't need to be tandem

[ebon marlin]

I already have a Aorus Fo27q2 which uses a 3rd gen panel but wanna get a tandem one for a "future proof OLED"

[teal sinew]

woled and qd oled monitors have always been “tandem”

they use multiple stacks of oled material

lg is just being cringe with the marketing of their latest woled panels

[ebon marlin]

what's so special about these tandem monitors then

[stark flicker]

future proof doesn't mean anything tbh

If you have a 4k 240Hz oled you will be able to keep it for a long time don't worry

[stark flicker]

they are more luminous

well, more nits for the colors

[ebon marlin]

I have a 1440p 240hz monitor currently it's plenty for my 5800x3d + 6800xt and soon to be 7800x3d + 5070 setup

[teal sinew]

4th gen woled monitors got a huge color gamut and brightness buff

they surpass current qd oled monitors

[ebon marlin]

hmm

so would it be worth to get a 4th gen woled monitor

[teal sinew]

it’s the best overall tech for a gaming monitor right now so sure

but we only have 1440p280Hz right now, and 1440p540Hz in December

2160p monitors won’t be available until mid next year

[stark flicker]

not if you just bought one
Though if you go from 1440p to 2160p i'd say yes but not just for the display tech

[ebon marlin]

hm i'll wait for a glossy one to come out then

[ebon marlin]

I'd prefer to stay at 1440p

not a fan of the massive performance hit of going to 4k

[stark flicker]

Then don't waste money upgrading your monitor in the near to mid future imo

[teal sinew]

PG27AQWP is the king of 1440p monitors and it’s going to be eye popping expensive

1440p540Hz glossy and 80Gbps DP2.1

https://youtu.be/7t0szGK1gFw

[ebon marlin]

i mean I can get this for the same price as my current OLED monitor if I sell it off

so basically a free upgrade

but it's semi-glossy

poop

[teal sinew]

yeah that’s matte

[ebon marlin]

ough it's full matte?

ay caramba

[prime fox]

I think i should upgrade soon i have a monitor thats Made in 2002

[ebon marlin]

average Estonian tech

[teal sinew]

XG27AQDMGR, XG27AQWMG, XG32UCWG, XG32UCWMG, and PG27AQWP are the only confirmed glossy w-oled monitors

everything else is matte, semi-matte, or unknown

[ebon marlin]

4th gen oled?

[teal sinew]

XG27AQWMG (1440p280Hz) and PG27AQWP (1440p540Hz)

[prime fox]

Nvm its like 2006 or sm bc it has a display port but it dosent have a hdmi...

[ebon marlin]

got hyped until I realised it's a different model guh

Seems like Proshop doesn't have Asus's 4th gen oled monitors yet

only the gigglebyte

[steel umbra]

look up agon ag326ud and aw2725q

4k qd-oleds unda €700

[ebon marlin]

poop

[steel umbra]

why pooop

[ebon marlin]

I don't want 4k

I'm getting a 5070 not a 5090

[stark flicker]

4k is so insane

You can play on a 5070 with a 4k monitor

[steel umbra]

should’ve gotten an rtx pro 6000 it cheap

[ebon marlin]

ik but not that well

[steel umbra]

i want to know you guys opinion…

[stark flicker]

one of my best friend has a 5070 and a 4k oled and would never ever go back to 1440p

[steel umbra]

4k 27” or 4k 32”

[prime fox]

Should i upgrade my GPU its an gtx 1050 ti Im thinking of gtx 1080 ti or and 1660super

[stark flicker]

And I personally play in 4k with a 3080ti and a 4070 S without problems

I just went back to 1440p miniled to test it out, and it's so horrible

[ebon marlin]

1440p vs 4k performance (across 25+ different games)

[stark flicker]

Depends on your viewing distance but I think that for common viewing distances 32" is better

[steel umbra]

opinion!!! i wamt subjectivity not objectivity

ye thanks for the last part

[teal sinew]

opposite

[stark flicker]

yeah accross 25+ games that are used for benchmarking, in ultra settings without downscaling

DLSS in 4k is leagues better than in 1440p, to the point I don't want to not use it in 4k

Also going from ultra to high often brings big perf gains but doesn't change much the visuals

[teal sinew]

most people have shallow desks and should use smaller monitors

most people only have 24” of desk depth which is very shallow

[stark flicker]

Yeah maybe I'm biased after years of having 80cm desk depth and knowing people with the same

[teal sinew]

i prefer 32” but i have a big desk

[stark flicker]

it also depends of how one seat on their setup

[teal sinew]

1440p DLAA and 1440p->2160p DLSS perform the same in most cases

[stark flicker]

That can really almost double

My opinion is to measure viewing distance and try to have an FOV of 42-48 degrees (really arbitrary but I think it's a good range for most) and find the monitor size that fit this

[teal sinew]

i prefer to have my display size be similar to my desk depth

for flat 16:9 displays anyway

32” monitor on a 32” deep desk etc

that’s what i find most comfortable after trying a bunch of displays and a few desks

[stark flicker]

I used for 3 month a 42" 4K tv on a 80cm desk depth

[teal sinew]

i’ve been using a C4 42” since November 2024

on my 36” (92cm) deep desk

[stark flicker]

It was a C2

[viscid helm]

they look really good and special, thanks for suggestion

[teal sinew]

it’s a little too big but it’s fine

[viscid helm]

no burn in for PC usage?

[teal sinew]

nop

[stark flicker]

yeah I thought the same, I just wasn't using the full screen when working but it was comfy

[ebon marlin]

cheapest 4k oled for me guh

[viscid helm]

I have a C1 I only use for gaming as I'm scared of burn in

movies and gaming...

[ebon marlin]

I'd consider it if it was 32"

[viscid helm]

and an IPS for PC

[stark flicker]

I a have a 5 year old oled tv that I exclusively used with a PC and do not have burn in, though I don't use it 8 hours a day

[ebon marlin]

5€ more but half the refresh rate and if I had to guess absolutely 0 features

[viscid helm]

I typically use it 7-9h a day so yeah

[stark flicker]

if you lower the luminosity you will have even less burn in

[ebon marlin]

just checked and 0 features

I paid 80€ more for my current OLED monitor over another AOC one was cuz this had a KVM

350-360€ vs 440€

[stark flicker]

Yeah KVM is nice

[ebon marlin]

been helpful with my steam deck

with settng up stuff and such

[viscid helm]

yes but they're not that bright though

I typically need around 250-300nits in my room for SDR

in day

[odd marsh]

HDR 24/7 💪

[stark flicker]

Great thing with oled is that you kind of need less luminosity due to higher contrast though I understand the argument

[viscid helm]

you use HDR for windows right

[odd marsh]

yes

[viscid helm]

windows apps

[stark flicker]

And feel the same

I freaking am on a miniled monitor blasting 700nits or smth in SDR lmao

[odd marsh]

I am in HDR all the time

[supple niche]

anyone else gonna be picking up that new asus 4th gen woled monitor?

[viscid helm]

you're a person with a high dynamic range badge

[odd marsh]

yes

[ebon marlin]

if it's at a reasonable price but since it's Asus I doubt it

wonder if it'll even have a KVM or any other nice features

[supple niche]

according to one website says its launching at 599$ with a early bird of 550$

but we shall see

pre-tariffs ofc

[ebon marlin]

no USB-C or KVM

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-oh-my-god-bruh-saleswoman-oh-my-god-bruh-gif-2398788864743270124

[supple niche]

i dont know what that means so it must not be important

well, kvm not usb c obv

[ebon marlin]

you can have another device connected to ur monitor and with a click of a button ur monitor can display that other device with all ur peripherals connected to the monitor

for example if I have my keyboard and mouse connected to my monitor and then I have a USB-C DP cable connected to my monitor and Steam Deck

one click and It'll have my Steam Deck show up on the monitor and I can use my keyboard and mouse alongside it

very useful if you own multiple pc systems

[supple niche]

thats fair i suppose its not a thing for me

[ebon marlin]

I use it to setup emulators on my Steam Deck

[supple niche]

nice

[ebon marlin]

can use it for much more but that's what I mostly use it for

[vocal drum]

I plugged in my graphics card and my computer still isn't posting

[ebon marlin]

have you tried turning it off and on

[cloud lynx]

🤣

[ocean axle]

have you tried a new GPU, pascal is pretty old now

[steel umbra]

wrong connector

gotta use usb 3.2

[ocean axle]

no, gotta plug the GPU into the HDMI port

[vocal drum]

Doesn't fit

[ocean axle]

might need to get an adapter then

HDMI -> USB-C -> USB-A

i wonder if that could actually be pulled off

[gusty moss]

google ai just told me that a ryzen 7 9800x3d can bottleneck a 3070 :)

[vocal drum]

I mean it wouldn't actually do anything but yes it could

[ocean axle]

i know USB-C can do DP-alt mode, and afaik adapted to HDMI, but that'd be the wrong end to try and adapt to USB-A female

[cloud lynx]

Ok so dont know why but getting delayd audio on really sophistic things and certin programs have no idea what is going on

[ocean axle]

oh, USB-C (female) to USB-C (female) couplers exist, that'll do it

[left valley]

AI moment

[molten thicket]

I’ve been holding off on getting a new gpu still running my 2080ti would yall hold off longer or would now be an okay time to get a 5080 potentially if I find one at msrp

[vocal drum]

I need a USB C to female USB A then I could plug my GPU into my GPU

[stark kiln]

Y'all know that one quote from AM which is like where he was at hell looking at heaven right

[stark kiln]

This is how I feel since I got a new PC yeah. But I got nowhere to plug it in so it's useless rn

[left valley]

2080 Ti is still plenty capable except for poor transformer model perf

[ocean axle]

i have multiple of those adapters

[vocal drum]

I know I have one somewhere

[molten thicket]

It’s bottleneck by my processor 13th gen i9 😶

[left valley]

Nah I don't think that's possible

[left valley]

It should run fine with 12400F

[molten thicket]

I meant that the other way around

[ocean axle]

even if the CPU could push more frames, do you actually want more?

[left valley]

Uhh you don't want your CPU to be the bottleneck. You'll get stutters

[ocean axle]

first question whenever anyone is upgrading, are you fine with the current perf? usually the answer is no hence the upgrade, but if you are, can just stick with your current stuff

[left valley]

Upgrading kinda sucks usually. Upgrading GPU requires upgrading the CPU too and sometimes even PSU

[stark kiln]

I am in hell looking at heaven

[ocean axle]

Upgrading GPU requires upgrading the CPU too
no it doesnt
and sometimes even PSU
sometimes yes, though a 2080ti is a pretty high power consumption card so should be fine in most cases

[left valley]

Welp not in that case but usually people make balanced builds which don't allow for much upgrade room

[vocal drum]

Am I bottlenecking correctly?

[ocean axle]

i mean in general its not a requirement

[left valley]

Ehh I have very bad experience with CPU bottlenecks

[ocean axle]

usually its recommended, but its not a requirement

[left valley]

Nah GPU is too slow

[steel umbra]

too much b01113n3ck

get a better ssd

and rgb

[left valley]

Welp yes the PC will start but the experience will be pretty terrible with regular freezes and no utilization

[ocean axle]

wont be any worse than it was before

[left valley]

Welp idk. I ended up prefering half the performance with no stutters every second

Stutters don't feel nice with any FPS

[ocean axle]

right, so, dont leave the FPS unlocked?

[steel umbra]

didn’t know 4k 31.5” has the exact same ppi as 1440p 21”

literally the same ppi down to the .00s

[ocean axle]

what is that for RGB, my servers have more RGB

[left valley]

Locking helps if the CPU can push enough frames. But usually it can't if the upgrade is significant

[ocean axle]

it can push as many as you were getting before

[azure topaz]

uh those are rgb dimms with the diffusers taken off

[azure topaz]

theyre certainly brighter than any conventional light in a computer

[left valley]

Yes but then what's the point of the upgrade?

[left valley]

Me when testing bts on 3080:

[sudden flame]

1060 3gb

[ocean axle]

my point is just that it wont be a worse experience because the GPU is faster
i did even say that its usually recommended to do a CPU upgrade at the same time

[left valley]

Wow

[left valley]

Oh yes makes sense

[ocean axle]

ok, but my server rack still has more red, more green, and more blue

[azure topaz]

well thats rude

[ocean axle]

i use red, green, and blue power cables

[azure topaz]

is it a z790 mpower though?

[left valley]

As a 3050 user (1070 perf level), I can say that 1060, 1070, 1080 Ti and all the 2000 series are still very capable

[ocean axle]

thats a singular mobo, why would i use a singular board?

[sudden flame]

If used correctly

[left valley]

Yeah

[azure topaz]

cuz its cool

[rose stream]

Hmmm... Alright then.

[ocean axle]

id rather have a Z77 MPOWER again

[rose stream]

I imagine I still won't be able to use GraalVM with it though like before.

[rigid fjord]

np, and tbh there's some pc builds with them inside

not that big tbh

[ocean axle]

no clue

can go try the latest build thats on https://maven.logix.dev

iirc, i pushed the fixed neo prod up

[rose stream]

Hmmmm any potential differences between the Fabric and NeoForge versions I should be aware of?

[stark kiln]

All i need is a monitor now

[ocean axle]

they are built from the same commit, its basically just loader differences

[rose stream]

Alright then.

[ocean axle]

and yea, seems i did push up the neo prod "fix"

its very bullshit, and is why im waiting for the updated FML

FML 10.0.21 adds support for it doing JiJ loads from service jars, rather than forcing the service jars to have their own mod locator

[steel umbra]

gold going up brrr

or rather fiats ⚰️

[rigid fjord]

@viscid helmsaid builds

[ocean axle]

where divergence meter?

[rigid fjord]

get some nixie tubes and build yourself one with a rp2040 to control it

[simple path]

Should I stick to my trashy school laptop or get my own laptop and install linux on it

[rose stream]

Sounds more like a preferential thing to me.
I say it's up to you to decide.

[simple path]

Linux laptop it is

[ocean axle]

oh, i think i did push this up, Cinnabar 0.0.7+ should have a lot better entity perf that earlier versions

iirc it has "render pass continue"

[simple path]

NOW

For the second decision which is also preferential

[rose stream]

Ah. okay then.

[simple path]

Mint with i3 or fedora with hyprland

[tired bear]

i wouldnt be putting high voltage in my pc

especially bare pcb's

[ocean axle]

or in more plain english dont stall the GPU constantly

the mixin i used to get it work right is there, so, it should work how i expect it to

[rose stream]

That is a complicated choice.
I'm actually not entirely sure.

[ocean axle]

gentoo

[rose stream]

[brazen glen]

Sounds like hearing damage

4000 rpm is a high number for a fan

6-800 is a normal idle and most fan curves for normal use top out below 2000

[urban copper]

I can’t change my ram from 2400 to 3200mhz the bios says it has changed but it hasn’t

[rigid fjord]

you do realise, they'll run off 5v primarily

[sly bolt]

hey rauko so we were discussing my R7 7700X build earlier

im thinking of going matx but idk if I want a mobo that has cables on the behind

yk for better management

[brazen glen]

https://youtube.com/shorts/8fEgbukUszo?si=R1eD38-QGz5a_VvL this is what you’re asking for

4k rpm is data center levels of airflow lol

[left dove]

no god dammit

[brazen glen]

You would not want to be in the same room as that

[left dove]

hes back 😭

[brazen glen]

No, you don’t

who me or the fan guy

[rigid fjord]

not going to happen unless you look for specific stealth motherboards which tbh isn't worth doing

[rose stream]

You better have a rack in a closet elsewhere in the house for it then.

[left dove]

fucking ratchet

[brazen glen]

Whew I was like “oh god do I have a reputation”

[rigid fjord]

you're speaking to a troll there

[sly bolt]

but won’t the cable management kinda be a problem with a matx

[left dove]

we had ANOTHER SERVER ADMIN come in here and tell us about how shit he is

and before THAT every day for a fucking week he'd come in here with the dumbest questions and never listen to anyone

[rose stream]

And quiet enough to be in the same room as that system's user.

[brazen glen]

I want 10k rpm delta fans pointed directly inside of my mouth so that I look like Jeremy clarkson on a jet car while using my computer

[tired bear]

input voltage yes, but voltage to light a nixie tube is 140-170v

[rose stream]

4000 rpm is meant to be in a server rack room where you must wear hearing protection to be in for long periods of time.

[brazen glen]

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-clarkson-speed-speed-and-power-gif-27212846

[ivory mountain]

i like the way u think

[rigid fjord]

nope, decent cases means you can cable manage easy in them, though if you want easier cable management, get a fully modular psu and not one that isn't

[rose stream]

That's not the best in context of a normal pc, dude.

[sly bolt]

ASUS A21 plus?

[rose stream]

The best balances airflow and low noise.

[brazen glen]

More big number is more betterer

Number big? Number good!

[rigid fjord]

dude, he's a troll, should be nuked on sight

[left dove]

you are a problem

[brazen glen]

Ratchet installing the finger mulcher 5000 inside of his 20 dollar rosewill case

Do it, post pictures

Buy 10 of them right now

Coward

[rigid fjord]

backside image of it, showing how much room you got for cable management, but the main issue will be the cx650 you plan on getting as it's non-modular

[rose stream]

And then everyone here in an actually sane environment who has experienced this stuff on and off, as both a hobby and a living in all walks of life, say:

• More of either = no hearing
• listening to everyone else telling you this crap = congratulations, you've been proven to be gullible by them.

Seriously, fans moving that much air is NOT for a normal pc setup.

[sly bolt]

I could get a white semi modular one

[rigid fjord]

image of someone who cable managed well in the case

[sly bolt]

Cause I’m lwk planning on getting a white one

[rigid fjord]

people with brain cells that aren't competing for last place, unlike you

[ocean axle]

just find the right wojack and move on

[rose stream]

Here's something of reference to go off of.
Y'all will have to excuse the stupid long link.
https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-P12-PWM-PST-Connessione/dp/B07GJGF56L/137-3279200-6290236?pd_rd_w=Gg0Zb&content-id=amzn1.sym.4c8c52db-06f8-4e42-8e56-912796f2ea6c&pf_rd_p=4c8c52db-06f8-4e42-8e56-912796f2ea6c&pf_rd_r=M22ZJ9VNWFF0DGH2JBQ8&pd_rd_wg=UlBWJ&pd_rd_r=9b4be698-f121-4f7c-ac16-9c037e161db9&pd_rd_i=B07GJGF56L&th=1

Go off of a P12 PWM. THAT is actually a normal fan and one of the best choices these days for a normal pc.

[rigid fjord]

totally the same as the black then, and yeah sure, you could get a white modular/semi modular psu to match it

[sly bolt]

@rigid fjord

[sly bolt]

I have an even better idea actually now that I think of it

[rose stream]

Oh no. I use a larger 140 mm Acrtic BioniX fan.

[sly bolt]

KCAS 1000W

[rose stream]

I prefer more air movement with less noise thanks.

Plus, my case is literally a mesh case.

[rigid fjord]

this is a great tier A psu to go for tbh, and their premium cable kits you can use on them allows for even better cable management

[rose stream]

So I don't worry that much about airflow as is.

[fringe prairie]

how much?

[sly bolt]

Do I have to buy the cables for it or

[sly bolt]

Thats like 80 euro lol

[fringe prairie]

oh nice

[rigid fjord]

you don't have to, if you don't want to

[sly bolt]

So it comes with cables

[rose stream]

Ah, here's the thing, even if it's the wrong color. Lol.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Py2bt6/arctic-bionix-p140-776-cfm-140-mm-fan-acfan00159a

[rigid fjord]

using said premium cables @sly bolt

[rigid fjord]

it comes with stock corsair cables, the premium ones are what you can get to fully swap out the stock ones that come with their psu's

[sly bolt]

that looks like if someone didn’t care about looks at all

[rose stream]

1950 rpm under load, 77.6 cfm, very quiet in most cases (even with a technically semi-open case), that's what I use in my case.

[rigid fjord]

i don't, i don't stare at my pc itself, only the screens i use

[rose stream]

Same, lol.

[rigid fjord]

bionix fans are crap unless you get the bionix p120 a-rgb tbh

[sly bolt]

damn im kinda looking to build a pc that also looks nice

I could for sure save some money on having black parts not white

[rigid fjord]

mines a clean build, nothing about aesthetics

[tired bear]

why is 120 rad disconnected?

[ocean axle]

you care about looks?

[rose stream]

Well I didn't want argb regardless, plus it moves just enough air for me anyway.

[rigid fjord]

because i'm slowly converting it over to a custom loop

[tired bear]

ight

[rigid fjord]

the p12 pwm pst and p14 pwm pst's actually have better performance over the bionix line

[sly bolt]

my gpu is 50 euro more expensive than other identical ones just for the white paint

[ocean axle]

thats dumb

[rigid fjord]

that's what we call white tax

[bleak ledge]

Has Discord started producing AI generated alt text for URLs now?

[rigid fjord]

white tax in effect

[sly bolt]

do I just go for a clean build or for white tax aesthetics

[ocean axle]

doesnt that usually work the.....

[rose stream]

Also, old pic of it, but this rig of mine... It's behind my monitor nowadays so I almost never see it when using it.

[rose stream]

I'm not sure if I was able to get them at the time that led up to me getting the BioniX honestly. I wanted something that was cheap at 140 size and back then, that was it.

[ocean axle]

IMO, if you are looking at your computer, you are doing something wrong

[rose stream]

So far, it's serviced me fine. However, when it goes, I guess the P14 PWM PST will be the next choice.

[ocean axle]

personally, i care about cable management/etc for maintenance reasons, not looks

[rigid fjord]

you can go super clean with black builds tbh, there's several stealth builds that's more clean and aesthetically pleasing than the rainbow turd white builds some people do

[rose stream]

Also same for me.

[tired bear]

mine is literally in another room

[sly bolt]

💀

[ocean axle]

so are mine

[bleak ledge]

Maintaining your computer?

[ocean axle]

yea, i change the CPu and GPU in it sometimes

[rigid fjord]

that should be what people think but sadly it not so common

[bleak ledge]

I'm part of the don't touch it for 8 years crowd

[sly bolt]

fair but the black GPUs dont seem to come with argb, rather just white strip of light

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/ab-gif-19523602

[bleak ledge]

🥂

[pearl fossil]

guys i can't go for the thinkpad anymore :(

[azure topaz]

this thing is sick

[pearl fossil]

only choice atm is an hp elitebook 845 g8

[ocean axle]

for some of my computers i do that, for others they get upgraded basically constantly

[rigid fjord]

many come with argb/rgb but that's useless on anything other than the display/screen

[tired bear]

yo wtf
nice

[ocean axle]

its my server i try to not touch

[azure topaz]

crazy long cable too

[rose stream]

I've considered this before, but I still have no idea where I'd even put mine if I tried.

[ocean axle]

i currently just did some swapping around with it, but ive had over 1yr of uptime on my server

[azure topaz]

probably will use this to turn pc on and off

[bleak ledge]

My friend convinced me to repaste my CPU after about 6 years

[rigid fjord]

time to 3d print a cover and stand for it 😉

[sly bolt]

but what if I want a clean af black build with like dark purple RGB

[tired bear]

should have been rj45

[ocean axle]

gotta love the At Bios (not actually, but how i read it) code

[azure topaz]

nah basically means that

[ocean axle]

i know, i have an MSI am5 board

[rose stream]

And guess what you'll be looking at when doing anything with it.

At your screen anyway, not at the pc itself.

[rigid fjord]

they exist, but realistically don't intrigue me

[tired bear]

g8 and g9 are deacent
g10 and g11 is not my fav

[sly bolt]

fair enough

[pearl fossil]

it's a g8 with r7 5850u, 32gb ram, 512gb ssd

well the one i want to get anyways

[tired bear]

i only have experience with intel units

[pearl fossil]

damn

i'm not going for intel unless it's 10th gen or older but that's getting pretty old by now

so ryzen it is

[tired bear]

keep in mind it is a 4 year old generation by now

[ocean axle]

"screen" singular?

[pearl fossil]

sorry for still being a hackintosh user in 2025 😭

[rigid fjord]

stealth builds are so much more cleaner@sly bolt

[pearl fossil]

but if i can get a good x86 laptop for cheaper than an m1 air i surely will

[ocean axle]

IMO, if you want stealth, just put in in another room

doesnt get more out of sight/mind than not physically there

[ivory mountain]

have to install bedrock for a server with ppl and shit ass xbox app aint doing anything, glad i left it

[plush wren]

what even is that

[rose stream]

From the start of it all, you go with one to make the point.
Otherwise, someone getting just one monitor will try to loophole their way out of that argument.

[sly bolt]

for sure more expensive than black rainbow parts tho

[plush wren]

no

[ivory mountain]

😩

[rigid fjord]

actually no, it's cheaper when you're not doing a custom loop for it

[plush wren]

non rgb is cheaper

oh wait thats watercooled

[tired bear]

yep, gonna be replacing g8's next year

[rose stream]

Also, no rgb is stealthier.

No light to catch your attention.

[sly bolt]

but y’all are right, I almost never look at my pc when im using it

[azure topaz]

ez dashborad duh

[pearl fossil]

idc if it'll be eol i just want something that can dual boot windows and macOS 😭

[sly bolt]

Occasionally once per year i take a look at it and think to myself “it looks nice”

It’s not worth the 100 extra euro

[azure topaz]

has post code readout + power on + reset + cmos reset on a break out board

[plush wren]

Best motherboard for ai pc

[distant frigate]

Ok so it seems like these numbers are for the port counts

Fiber distribution box

[sly bolt]

I could get a better CPU or GPU for the money that would go into looks

[plush wren]

clear cmos button wtf

[tired bear]

they are still deacent laptops

[plush wren]

deacent

[tired bear]

told ya

[pearl fossil]

they are, still pretty powerful especially for the price, like you can find them for around €350 on ebay from what i can see

[azure topaz]

wut

[plush wren]

havent seen that before

[rigid fjord]

one of the really best non-rgb build, in a not very cheap case @sly bolt

[azure topaz]

you a=havent needed it then

[ocean axle]

its for OC, thats basically a requirement

[rose stream]

64 sounds an extra bit beefy. Lol.

[plush wren]

what case is it tho

[azure topaz]

you can do that on any case with 2 buttons

[ocean axle]

proart tax be real

[plush wren]

yes

[distant frigate]

I never really see 64’s here

[sly bolt]

@rigid fjord do you have like a moment to make me a like 1000 euro R7 7700 build? on like pcpartpicker in Swedish crowns

[distant frigate]

I see plenty of 12’s and 24 fiber port counts for distribution boxes

[rigid fjord]

first pic of the 2 is custom looped with it all being matte black flexitubing

[ocean axle]

north

[plush wren]

oh

[ebon marlin]

Isn't that just a North with a bunch of scribbling on it

[rigid fjord]

not right now, no

[ocean axle]

yes

[sly bolt]

aight

[plush wren]

proart scribbles ig

[ebon marlin]

That scribbling is an extra 100$ in Asus tax probably

[rigid fjord]

yes, still one of the most cleanest ones out there

[pearl fossil]

so are those business hps any good? i had bad experiences with consumer models

[distant frigate]

Either way there’s probably enough ports for every home to get fiber

[rigid fjord]

nope, that's custom done to the case, not from asus

asus has a proart case though, and it's fugly

[sly bolt]

what’s the case

[rigid fjord]

it's the fractal north

[plush wren]

https://www.reddit.com/r/FractalDesign/comments/14bteal/proart_build_fractal_north/

[pearl fossil]

i don't understand why so many pcs have so many ai features nowadays

[plush wren]

new buzz word

[sly bolt]

it’s 3 times the price of what I’ve found so far

[ebon marlin]

I just wish the North didn't have that insanely massive forehead at the front

[pearl fossil]

not just in windows but in hardware too like with npu and all that

[ebon marlin]

Well, NPU's purpose is for AI

[rose stream]

Because it... Pays the manufacturer more to include it somehow...

[rigid fjord]

the white version of the case has copper accents with a beech front @sly bolt

[jaunty apex]

Buzzwords and good way to harvest data

[rose stream]

In short, it's just the money.

[sly bolt]

damn man

[sly bolt]

I can’t seem to find the one with the text on the case

[tired bear]

bc it is AI-DS

[pearl fossil]

like no one is gonna be like "oh i am going to press my brand new copilot button to make notes quicker"

[rigid fjord]

the black one is brass/gold accents with walnut front

[rigid fjord]

you won't, the text is completely custom addition to the case

[sly bolt]

still it’s 3 times more expensive

[pearl fossil]

i know literally nobody who uses ai in the ways companies try to push nowadays

[tired bear]

i can guarantee there were many meetings discussing how having a copilot button will increase shareholder value

[ebon marlin]

Lenovo Loq 9th gen laptop that I got for 250€ has a copilot button it's nice ig but i can just open chatgpt on a browser tab if I wanted to

[jaunty apex]

I know one person who essentially relies on GPT

[pearl fossil]

how hard is it to open up your web browser and go to chat.openai.com

[rigid fjord]

asus's actual proart case @ebon marlin@sly bolt

[rose stream]

Investors nowadays are super invested into the AI craze, so if you want more value out of your product, include AI somewhere in there (most particularly your marketing) and they will pay you extra in investments for it.

[pearl fossil]

YEAH EXACTLY

[plush wren]

cus its custom

[sly bolt]

ugly

[tired bear]

same, we call him brush head

[rigid fjord]

like i said, it's fugly a case

[pearl fossil]

and then intel's new naming scheme makes basically no sense

[ebon marlin]

Ay caramba

[pearl fossil]

they basically just messed the whole system up because they wanted more money

like what wrong with core i series

[rose stream]

Same. They even try to push AI with those of us going into cybersecurity and from what I can tell, it's just... Easier to learn without the AI, since most of the answers it gives aren't even accurate when you REALLY need them to be.

[rigid fjord]

but if you combine the fractal north case with an asus proart mobo, asus proart 4070, you've ate 90% of your 1k budget instantly before adding ram and cpu

[rose stream]

And yet it's still strongly encouraged.

[pearl fossil]

a google search is more accurate 😭😭😭

[sly bolt]

is TG better or is Mesh better

[pearl fossil]

do people not know how to google anymore

[rigid fjord]

@sly bolt

[ebon marlin]

I wanted to test out the copilot key today so I asked it to compare my current OLED monitor to a new one and it listed my 3rd gen glossy OLED as matte 2nd gen OLED

[rigid fjord]

mesh, always mesh on the front

[pearl fossil]

at least nobody's gonna be asking grok for that sort of stuff

i hope anyways

[sly bolt]

then nty

[ebon marlin]

Have you seen who Chatgpt has partnered with recently

[jaunty apex]

@grok is this true?

[rose stream]

Ooohh no, the irony is that even using google searches for stuff pertaining to cybersecurity is that even the answers from a search aren't accurate or come from sources that don't answer anything directly.

[pearl fossil]

yeah

god this ai stuff is crazy

[rigid fjord]

this is the look of the proart gpu's

[rose stream]

Google searches even sucked before the whole AI thing was added in.

[ebon marlin]

https://stupidpenisx.com/PopCrave/status/1978588687840465054

Pop Crave (@PopCrave)

Walmart partners with OpenAl so people can make purchases directly through ChatGPT.

vxTwitter / fixvx 💖 4.1K 🔁 205 · Oct 15, 2025, 10:27 PM

[tired bear]

only looking at proart eats your budget

[pearl fossil]

WHAT TJE HELL

[plush wren]

this is meta

[sly bolt]

LOL this pc is NOT 1200 euro

[pearl fossil]

thank god i'm not in america

[ebon marlin]

People can't even grocery shop without AI anymore

[jaunty apex]

AI is the first thing mum sees when searching on Google. And I don't think shed cross referenced a source in her life

[fringe prairie]

wow 💀

[pearl fossil]

people can't do anything without ai anymore

[plush wren]

they can but they dont want to

[inner lodge]

Asked for a 16e for Christmas hope I get it also asked for a screen protector and case so we’ll se

[rose stream]

Mainly because people gamed that system a lot and then because Alphabet had been trying to make Google a central site for all information to be seen, which hurts the sites it's getting that information from.

[rigid fjord]

naturally but if you want a look that's ends up really classy and clean, it's hard to not look at proart mobo's to begin with

[ebon marlin]

https://stupidpenisx.com/Dexerto/status/1978891773955985521?s=19
Lmao

Dexerto (@Dexerto)

A study has shown that being rude to AI chatbots results in more accurate answers

Researchers at Pennsylvania State University found that "impolite prompts consistently outperform polite ones" https://t.co/qwvhDW4KnR

vxTwitter / fixvx · Oct 16, 2025, 6:32 PM

[pearl fossil]

i only use chatgpt for stuff google can't really help me for, and giving me sources to verify what it probably hallucinates

[jaunty apex]

Hopefully you sent your letter to Santa early enough.

[rose stream]

It's... Probably not going to matter which country you're in if everyone is in on this craze, which from what I know, a lot of them are seems like.

[sly bolt]

is this a scam for 1200 euro

[ebon marlin]

No it's just very poor value

[rigid fjord]

not a scam, but it's overpriced a bit

[tired bear]

just get a case without transparent side pannel (bequiet ones that are sound threated) and stuff the inside with as much ketchup and mustard possible

[sly bolt]

isn’t it like better than what I’ve planned

[rigid fjord]

proart mobo's be like

[pearl fossil]

damn i basically have the broke version of those specs

i5-10400f gtx 1080ti 32gb ddr4 2400 1tb 7200rpm hdd

the boot drive is an ssd at least

[rose stream]

Being polite though honestly is better... If it means overwhelming OAI's systems more from simply saying please. Lmao.

[ebon marlin]

I dunno but the 7500F + 4070 list I created for you days ago is miles better

[sly bolt]

is this better than an

R7 7700X
RX 9060 XT 16GB
32GB DDR5
B850M-X

[sly bolt]

I made a r7 7700x + 9060 XT 16GB

[ebon marlin]

And the 7500f + 4070 is still better 💔

[sly bolt]

how

7500F is better than 7700X how

[rigid fjord]

when you find out what games he plays, you find out realistically he needs a setup with an 8c 16t cpu instead

[rigid fjord]

better gpu performance

[sly bolt]

what games is this even good for

[ebon marlin]

Overall in gaming 7500F and 7700x perform the exact same

[tired bear]

can you increase budget by 2-300 euros?

[sly bolt]

yes but it’ll be a tight squeeze

[ebon marlin]

Everything even cyberpunk with raytracing and pathtracing

Although it'll require mfg + dlss4

[rigid fjord]

nope, that's the 7600 and 7500f that perform the exact same

[sly bolt]

my budget is 1100 euro RIGHT NOW and if I sell my pc it’ll go up to 1700 euro

[ebon marlin]

Not much in difference other than the additional cores

[tired bear]

when you are playing flight sims in vr it matters

[fringe prairie]

doesn't sweden use sek?

[frigid blade]

did ram prices go up? I got 2 96GB kits earlier this year for like $250 and they're $400+ new now?

[sly bolt]

I calculated to euro

[ebon marlin]

That's why I said not much difference other than the additional cores

[fringe prairie]

better to just use your own currency

[rigid fjord]

@ebon marlin games he plays, he requires an 8c 16t cpu due to them

[ebon marlin]

Additional cores would help with VR perf

[sly bolt]

also counter strike 2

idk I really kinda play anything

[ebon marlin]

The femboy game

[fringe prairie]

i'd rather the 14600k over the 7700x in sweden if tight budget

[fringe prairie]

or just raise budget idk

[rigid fjord]

@left dove what's your full setup for use with dcs?

[ebon marlin]

Might be also be able to get a good deal on used markets just saw a 14900k for 250€ here in Finland with warranty on it still

[frigid blade]

is the 13900kf still a competative cpu in terms of the higher end ones?

[rigid fjord]

1100 if not selling his pc, 1700 if he sells his current pc

[fringe prairie]

yes

[left dove]

logitech rudders, logitech x56 v2, trackIR, cougar MFD controllers

[frigid blade]

Asking because its coming up to 4 years old

[sly bolt]

I just want an upgrade from my i5-10400F vro

[rigid fjord]

noice but i mean system setup, i.e pc specs

[tired bear]

if you want you can also upgrade platform now, and then get a gpu later

[left dove]

OH
10850k @ 5ghz
64g 3200 RAM
5070ti

I'm cpu-limited but I can get a consistant 100fps at 4k with dlss and everything on high/ultra

[frigid blade]

do the newer intel CPUs have better memory controllers?

[tired bear]

y

[frigid blade]

Thats my biggest issue, I cant push my ram anywhere close to its max bandwidth