tech-chat-1

[gleaming meteor]

would i be fine running a 5050 and a 5700x on a 250w GaN

or should i pay the extra 50 and get the 500w GaN hdplex

[bitter rampart]

You'd be pushing it but maybe

5050 has a TDP of 130w

[gleaming meteor]

i can always uv if i have to

5050 is 60 euro less than 4060 lp and even overall really

[cold skiff]

You’d fuck the psu

[bitter rampart]

Prob be fine cuz the CPU is a 65w tdp

[cold skiff]

That’s not how wattage works

[bitter rampart]

I have dual Xeon rackmount servers that only pull 65w from the wall idle

[gleaming meteor]

ive seen someone run a 4060ti on a 250 gan lmao but i get yout point

[cold skiff]

Max pull of 90+130=220 +ram/mobo etc

[west wagon]

it would just turn off if it has security

[gleaming meteor]

ppt is 88

[cold skiff]

You’ll be pulling max and fuck the psu with any high load

[west wagon]

but yeah increase ts

or you can be cheeky and try to increase the wall plug voltage

[cold skiff]

That’s going to be a fire

[west wagon]

to have higher efficiency psu

[bitter rampart]

Power supplies shut off if too much is pulled

[cold skiff]

Are you guys idiots or something?

[west wagon]

squeeze like 20W by giving it 5-10 more volts

[west wagon]

no it's fine

[gleaming meteor]

how tf do i give it more voltage lol

[west wagon]

handmade transformer

[gleaming meteor]

ill also fan mod it im not risking it heating up too much

[bitter rampart]

You came here and started disagreeing with everyone then you ask if we're the idiots lmao

[cold skiff]

Just buy a proper fkn psu and stop being dumb

[gleaming meteor]

i um no

[west wagon]

i just love to state the most frankenstein solution for fun

[bold drum]

really excited for these tbh

[gleaming meteor]

this shit cannot fit a generic psu 🥀

[bitter rampart]

What is that thing

[gleaming meteor]

headphones

[bold drum]

the cmf headphones pro, i've heard really good things bout them

[west wagon]

ported psu on the side with a handmade wire mess going to it

[bold drum]

plus i got em from amazon so i can always return them

[bitter rampart]

Power supplies have overcurrent protection, if it doesn't work just undervolt and it should be fine.

[bold drum]

i miss having over ears tbh

[west wagon]

actually really smart, totally forgot about undervolting

[bitter rampart]

👍

[cold skiff]

I mean it can fit a proper psu. You just buy an SFF psu and tie it down/screw it down - if you know what you’re doing with PSUs and screws so actually. Just zip tie it down.. as you’re already saying some literally bad stuff

[west wagon]

draw where it should fit lmao

[bitter rampart]

😭

[cold skiff]

You put it in the massive flat parts on top at the left

[bitter rampart]

Outside the case prob

[cold skiff]

I mean.. isn’t it obvious…

[west wagon]

do what vox said @gleaming meteor

[bitter rampart]

What you are suggesting isn't even needed

[rigid fjord]

nah, "sleeping aid" 😉

[cold skiff]

You literally put it on top and zip tie a proper psu down and not put a shit heap that gonna blow in it

[west wagon]

bubble maker for study

[bitter rampart]

With all due respect you don't know that.

[rigid fjord]

dude, tfx/flex atx exists and could fit in that

[bitter rampart]

I hate dictation on gboard

[west wagon]

people here really love to exagerate psu need

[bitter rampart]

No they just think money grows on trees

[west wagon]

they be suggesting 750W for a 4060

[bitter rampart]

😭

[west wagon]

future proofing they call it

[bitter rampart]

There's legit no reason to do that

[rigid fjord]

many people either don't know or simply ignorant to multiple types of psu that aren't atx/sfx

[random junco]

funny

[west wagon]

the future proof in question :
change psu when changing to a rtx 6000

[rigid fjord]

the only reason i can say this is valid to do is if the 750w psu is decent while being cheaper than a 650w psu

[bitter rampart]

Ughhhh

This is taking forever

[west wagon]

totally valid take

[lime berry]

only 28min

[west wagon]

fastest storage ever

[rigid fjord]

literally the only valid reason i can see for it

[bitter rampart]

That photo is old, it's been 40 minutes and it says 6 minutes remaining

[west wagon]

i swear, some people in this server really struggle to understand what value is

[rigid fjord]

i've seen a couple 850w psu's cheaper than a 750w, that have been well worth it

[lime berry]

backing up my old laptops file took almost 2 days when i was transfering my files

[bitter rampart]

NVMe to NVMe so I really don't understand

[west wagon]

something in between is the bottleneck

[bitter rampart]

This hotel was using a laptop with Intel Optane as a keycard server so I'm replacing it with an HP EliteDesk 705 G4 with a Ryzen 5

[gleaming meteor]

nah i think the wires can flex enough if not itll just be upside down

[rigid fjord]

many don't especially those that buy noctua and samsung products

[lime berry]

1tb hdd that only got like 10mb/s read was not fun

[gleaming meteor]

i could get a flex but like 3.8L seems a lot more sweet than 4.55L

[west wagon]

which r5 ?

[bitter rampart]

One NVMe is connected to the USB C port with a good quality cable. The only bottleneck I can think of is maybe thermal

[gleaming meteor]

also flex is really hit or miss unless i go with a 250 euro 600w enhanec unit or 200 euro 350w flexguru

[bitter rampart]

2400ge I think

[rigid fjord]

if that was an apu only build, you could go straight pico psu

[west wagon]

cpu is the bottleneck id say

[gleaming meteor]

nope 5700x and 5050

[random junco]

uh

[gleaming meteor]

ill prolly power limit and uv the 5050

[bitter rampart]

It's gonna work better then using an 11th gen i3 Dell laptop with a nonfunctioning keyboard and battery

[languid bough]

for above my main monitor CORSAIR XENEON FLEX with 2 32 inch vertical cheaper lg monitors on the side like $300 each

should i buy the LG ULTRA GEAR GX9 the 5k one or the LG 45GX900A-B oled WQHD (3440 x 1440)

[bitter rampart]

That has an HDD with an Intel Optane

[gleaming meteor]

havent people ran like 1660's off 240w dell psus

[rigid fjord]

i wouldn't trust one of these but they go up to about 200w

[west wagon]

likely xd

[west wagon]

i would

[gleaming meteor]

if i was going with it id go with the hdplex one

[bitter rampart]

I've had good luck with these, just ensure airflow is good.

[west wagon]

just slap some cheap copper heatsinks on the those and then you're good

like bacon send lol

[rigid fjord]

essentially yes, then again oem psu efficiencies differ, like they could be platinum efficiency but only 240w

[bitter rampart]

Also be careful about how much you put on the 5v rail

[gleaming meteor]

that GaN unit is like 98% eff

94% sorry

thats plat territory right

[bitter rampart]

98+ Diamond certification /j

[rigid fjord]

i'd sooner look at a flex atx instead

[west wagon]

the wires do look skinny but other than that...

what input voltage is this

[rigid fjord]

18awg wires on the pico

[gleaming meteor]

19-48 for the hdplex

[west wagon]

i mean if its sold it should be working

oh yeah its not gonna burn up

[rigid fjord]

and roughly 12-48v on pico psu's

[west wagon]

it's rated for 200W trust me you can pull 300W

[rigid fjord]

it can at any voltage dude

[gleaming meteor]

hmmm to this but like i really want to go as tiny as i can

[west wagon]

no because ohm law, if it's rated for 200W with a known input voltage you can calculate the amps and its safe

[tulip sparrow]

I assume that the 5070 will give me better performance over my 3070 Ti minus the extra 4GB of VRAM it haves LOL

As for how much I don't know

[west wagon]

the higher the voltage the less amps for a said amount of power

the less heat.

[rigid fjord]

one of the really good flex atx psu's worth touching

[tulip sparrow]

Becuase I certainly could use a bump in performance for 1440p for my 1440p@165hz monitor

[gleaming meteor]

yuh but id rather the flexguru which is not available anymore

since thats case intake and then exhaust out the front instead of front intake and case exhaust

[rigid fjord]

what about one of these instead?

[west wagon]

can't they just make one of these with another 8pin

it'll be perfect

[near jewel]

i find it funny that people leave the ltt server out of the conversation because the members are so mean in it

[rigid fjord]

you can do this instead with it

[west wagon]

but that's too much volume

[tulip sparrow]

FACEPALMS

NOT what I asked google

[rigid fjord]

same size as the 250 one but double the wattage

[west wagon]

but now it's too much

nightmare

there has to be a 300-350w

[gleaming meteor]

thats what i initially asked can i use lol

[tulip sparrow]

I want to see what the pricing of the super variants of the 50 series is before putting money down on an upgrade

[gleaming meteor]

thats not a full psu

[rigid fjord]

there probably is

[gleaming meteor]

this is a pico psu but separate

[gleaming meteor]

nope its either a full 250W GaN psu with 100-230v in or a 500w one thats 20mm longer and 2x thicker

with also 100-230v in

[west wagon]

well well well

[rigid fjord]

for the 'gan' ones

[west wagon]

HDPLEX 400W HiFi DC-ATX

look this one up and lmk if its like cheap

[gleaming meteor]

dc-atx which means it requires another unit to convert power

like pico psu ]

[west wagon]

ah damn

[rigid fjord]

the hdplex hifi 500w though is 160 x 52 x 25mm

[rigid fjord]

it also means you could run it from a car battery if you wanted

[west wagon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/932141197022089246/1396217956429729952/C642101E-A94B-42A5-B5DA-2DD8DA4F53CF.gif

[gleaming meteor]

i mean id rather not have a lead acid batt in my room

lol

[west wagon]

free soda

[rigid fjord]

lifepo exists

safer than li-po

[gleaming meteor]

id rather spend 130 on that 250 gan

[crude glen]

bouta cop a 2060 for 110

[gleaming meteor]

than spend 70 on a lead acid and like 110 on that dcatx thing

[gleaming meteor]

oooh nice

[rigid fjord]

$145 it's showing me for the 250w gan

[pearl fossil]

hi

[rigid fjord]

$175 for the 500w gan

[crude glen]

https://www.amazon.com/600W-Supply-ESGAMING-Cooling-Protections/dp/B0CYGWYKXX?crid=38OXA0LALY6YZ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.s1St-aiLrXNprQJ3-9dRYjwsDhh37aQ-Ikzs4kWg-GUxfmE4EAlptLu5eijz8kDXu3NFTXjsm4CXyJT1u2GBDcw47TY6sJXppzFr5mmw5NSpw94v_mlK3zbW3HahOfxzTlHXfbW9HY4VkLdkIArc00q4hPPWD0jikAA-sERNt5X9t4iuUj4R_CvyUOVN5ITjzCi0wHQ6a7pnNNR-tq6mVjTa_ITKsTkN9tLy1Hen1gw.N_JCZpC5eDzB-2Pa50qLiH45bdfa4nsQUbvwFErJm74&dib_tag=se&keywords=esgaming%2B600w&qid=1759954736&sprefix=esgaming600w%2Caps%2C87&sr=8-3&th=1 this should be fine right

seems like no name brand but looks legit

[rigid fjord]

what's the price of a 1080ti where you are?

[crude glen]

145 about

[rigid fjord]

yeah, no, basically a tier F psu

[crude glen]

y

[gleaming meteor]

god that 5050 will be so much faster than my 1660s

[rigid fjord]

eh, not to bad, and definitely better than a 2060

[rigid fjord]

seen the low profile 4060?

[crude glen]

2060 for 110 is a great deal

[gentle kestrel]

considering im missing half the cpu i got closeish

[gleaming meteor]

lp 4060 is 330 euro and 5050 lp is 270

[rigid fjord]

oof

[gleaming meteor]

and theyre both nearly identical in perf

[azure topaz]

benchmate

[pliant marsh]

"looks legit" Bro this thing doesn't even have Active Power Factor Correction!

[azure topaz]

do avx512 workload, just copy the settings there

[gentle kestrel]

nah i gotta actually run vt3 still

i went back to 2133fclk

[crude glen]

alr bro what else is there for 30 bucks

[azure topaz]

nothing. dont get a 30$ power supply

fuck. 😭

[rigid fjord]

having that switch isn't the issue tbh

[crude glen]

ill let yall know when my house burns down dont worry

[pliant marsh]

If a power supply needs a manual switch to adjust to the grid voltage, then you can expect what kind of other shortcuts have been made in production

[azure topaz]

ES GAMING 😭

[gentle kestrel]

it's not even in the spl no confidence list

[crude glen]

im getting it LOL

YOLO

[rigid fjord]

inb4 oem psu's have that switch and still not having shorcuts in their build

[pliant marsh]

My condolences for your PC in advcance

[azure topaz]

couldve idk looked at facebook marketplace, ebay, anywhere else

[gentle kestrel]

cheaping out on the one part that can kill every other part with ease is always a smart choice

[azure topaz]

okay no but we go with the shittiest unit we see on amazon

[pliant marsh]

I have never seen an OEM PSU with a switch like that

[gentle kestrel]

i have like 15 years ago

[azure topaz]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/335690007991?

[pliant marsh]

anything more ...recent?

[crude glen]

eh

[azure topaz]

i dont even know how good this unit is but its better than that amazon shit

33$, buy it

[gentle kestrel]

not that im aware of

[crude glen]

eh\

[azure topaz]

now were baiting for fun

[crude glen]

il llet you know when it fucking explodes and kills me

[azure topaz]

yeah i hope it does, enjoy

[pliant marsh]

Do your own PC a favor, get this

[crude glen]

eh

[pliant marsh]

The A550BN is the lowest I would go

[crude glen]

id rather get a used one im trying to really cheap on this second pc im building

but the other parts are fine trust me bro

[azure topaz]

yeah so when they die its a tragedy

🔥

thought process

[pliant marsh]

Brother your other parts are all shit if the thing supplying them with the very thing they need to work - power - is shit,

[azure topaz]

non existant

[crude glen]

nah the rest of the parts are acc fine but the psu is what i was concerned about

[gentle kestrel]

aren't you buying a 1030

[crude glen]

ill get a good one

[azure topaz]

so youre gonna get a 30$ amazon unit

[crude glen]

2060 the 1030 was ragebait

[rigid fjord]

160w dell psu, for an optiplex tower, bout' 5 years ago

[azure topaz]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/335034305315?

[pliant marsh]

oh yo're ragebaiting

[crude glen]

so i can raytrace 🤑

[gentle kestrel]

i honestly don't get the appeal in buying a unit that isn't a tier

[azure topaz]

dell hasnt used atx connectors in more than 5 years dawg

molex does not exist on a modern dell computer

it doesnt even exist on something kinda old like a 6th gen machine

[gentle kestrel]

like like yeah bro lemme power my system with a b tier psu

[azure topaz]

i have a dell 6th gen machine next to me

[crude glen]

optiplex demon?

[rigid fjord]

newer ones be basically using modified flex atx psu's nowadays

[gentle kestrel]

yeah that's like haswell and older if it's regular atx

[azure topaz]

12vo

[azure topaz]

no i just have a lot of computers

[crude glen]

a e5 2680v4 and a 2060 shouldnt draw like more then 350 watts right

[azure topaz]

get a 1680 v3 instead or 1650v3, its faster and overclockable

[raw trout]

Hi

[azure topaz]

but no, thats why i sent bottom of the barrel 35$ evga shitter used psus off ebay

[crude glen]

the mobo im getting is an aliexpress one so uts prob nto even real x99 so cant overclock

[rigid fjord]

mhm, but if you compare the overall design dude, it's basically a flex atx psu just doing 12vo

[azure topaz]

still get 1650 v3

[crude glen]

also i dont want to overclock this is gonna be a secondary pc i use like a console

[azure topaz]

why would you get the most power inefficient piece of shit for that

[crude glen]

wdym

[gentle kestrel]

why are you building this second ewaste pc anyway

just go buy a used xbox

[azure topaz]

something thats going to be on doing nothing for periods of time but also draws a lot of idle power

[crude glen]

i want a pc

and how is it ewaste

[azure topaz]

12 years old idk

[crude glen]

bro im not getting the esgaming psu chill

im just gonna get the fecking used evga

[azure topaz]

yw for that

[gentle kestrel]

12 year old xeon on the aliexpress hacked together motherboard is def ewaste

[azure topaz]

my bad its 9 years old broadwell i forgor

[crude glen]

and it comes with 32 gigs for 60 bucks so who cares

[gentle kestrel]

yeah of ddr3

[azure topaz]

d4 probably

x99 (v3+) have d4/d3 mem controllers

[gentle kestrel]

i wasn't aware of broadwell having d4 on the imc

[azure topaz]

haswell did lol

[gentle kestrel]

i thought skylake was the first d3/d4

probably consumer socket moment

[azure topaz]

haswell was first gen ddr4

[azure topaz]

yeah not a thing on consumer

[azure topaz]

v3 series of xeons and such

v4 was first gen 14nm iirc, broadwell

[gentle kestrel]

yeah it's v4 i have the page pulled up rn

[crude glen]

its ddr4

[azure topaz]

you could say either of them and you technically wouldnt be wrong

[steel umbra]

there is montech apx

[gentle kestrel]

3dpc

what the hell was going on with lga 2011

[azure topaz]

wat it should have 4 channel

some boards were 6 slot/3 channels but i thought it was 4

[gentle kestrel]

yeah the non x99 chipsets of the socket

quad channel 3dpc

[azure topaz]

ohhh ohh

[crude glen]

this build wont be that bad

yall are just lucky you havent seen the case its going in LOL

[azure topaz]

youre talking to the wrong poeple for this

im all for budget computers but they should be kinda smart

[crude glen]

but also back to the 1650v3 state ur case for it

[azure topaz]

its faster

[gentle kestrel]

this still sounds just like buying hardware to buy hardware

[azure topaz]

by a good amount

[crude glen]

how much is it

[azure topaz]

its base clock is faster than the 2680 v4's boost

probably pennies dawg its fucking x99

[crude glen]

chill lol

[gentle kestrel]

8 dollars

[azure topaz]

fuckin 8 dolla

[crude glen]

can u send a benchmark of some sort

[azure topaz]

you have google im not doing allat

[gentle kestrel]

flop is this bdie

[rigid fjord]

14h 36m print hehehe, ftw

[azure topaz]

i dont think so

[gleaming meteor]

holy

what printuh

[rigid fjord]

eh, no dude

[azure topaz]

it could be

but this is before they were doing ic codes

[brave brook]

and performance bellow 3600x probably

[pliant marsh]

bro. parandroid.

i havent seen you in years man

[azure topaz]

how much do they want for it is the better question

[gentle kestrel]

it's in a bundle with some other pc stuff

[azure topaz]

it could be bdie but could be bdie at the wrong price is still bad

[frozen quartz]

um guys I want to use my pc power to run games and play them on my phone but with my pc working normally like watching netflix on it and in the same time a game working on my phone

[rigid fjord]

octopi casing ready to add octopi to an ender 3

[brave brook]

bdiefinder doesn't list any 3333 Trident modules

[gentle kestrel]

i just saw the odd memory spec and figured it might've been

[azure topaz]

bdie finder sucks

[brave brook]

not my fault, i am here regularly

[pliant marsh]

but I am not

[azure topaz]

bdiefinder also doesnt list 3400 c16 models but i infact have them and they are indeed bdie

[gleaming meteor]

why are you printing at 50mm/s

[azure topaz]

im gonna go with not bdie just cause timings arent flat

[gleaming meteor]

is that ender 3 speeds holy

[stoic nova]

Holy zoomer attention span

[brave brook]

3200C14 and 3600C16 were b-die. 3333 at CL16 might be too slow

[azure topaz]

flat timings is an indication generally

[frozen quartz]

wdym

[azure topaz]

3600 c16-18 is not bdie but 3600 16-16-16 is

[gleaming meteor]

my kobra 2 neo which is like 150 euro can pull off 180mm/s with no issue 😭 tf is ender 3 doing

[crude glen]

so whats the best chip that can go in a x99

[azure topaz]

garbage

[gleaming meteor]

12 year old sand

[gentle kestrel]

actually this listing doesn't even make sense

[azure topaz]

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/169/1536045773/F4-3400C16D-16GSXW-EOL

[gentle kestrel]

"64gb ram" and it's 2 sticks from an 8x4 kit

[azure topaz]

this is my kit

[brave brook]

define best. 2699v3 and 2699v4 are top models, if you are after core count. but they are at level of 7600x/5700x

[rigid fjord]

because that's preset to the stl file itself and it's my first print

[azure topaz]

gaming i reckon, so the 16xx series is th ebest

1680 v4 or 1680 v3 or similar for games

[serene pumice]

Intel server cpu names sucks btw

[brave brook]

kyoko really wants my kit https://www.gskill.com/product/165/166/1536561087/F4-3200C14Q-64GTZR-EOL 😄

[crude glen]

what would you reccomend

[gleaming meteor]

if that is your first print please at least do the 20mm xyz cube test to see if the printer is calibrated right

before you commit to 14 hours

[azure topaz]

the best one you can afford

[crude glen]

i aint broke

[azure topaz]

if you split that up into 2x kits youd make al ot of money

[crude glen]

nvm the v4 is 100 bucks fuck that

[azure topaz]

youre buying x99

[rigid fjord]

for 16-18-18-38 i would presume either micron rev.e or a hynix cjr as the dies

[azure topaz]

look at 1650 v4

[gleaming meteor]

hopping into a huge print as a first one with a fresh printer is the worst thing you can do

[brave brook]

https://www.amazon.com/3200-GB-DDR4-MHZ-Memory-Module-3200-°C14q/dp/B072HJ6DHH someone is still hoping 😄

[azure topaz]

lmao

yeah i wont be buying dr bdie

altho if you guys really want bdie its like 40$

so buy it before youre missing on sr bdie

going to buy me another kit or two i think

[pliant marsh]

I use SpecTek M-Die

which runs surprisingly well actually

I am on 3600CL16

on 4 Sticks at 64GB Total

[azure topaz]

spectek is micron

just shit bin

[pliant marsh]

which surprises me even more

because they usually do not go that high

[azure topaz]

3600 c16 is where almost all ics can hit

3600 is THE generic ddr4 oc

[rigid fjord]

b,e or n dies is what you want if going micron

[crude glen]

whats like the step above that

[pliant marsh]

pretty sure that's 3200

[azure topaz]

1660

no thats xmp im talking like

youre actually overclocking

[rigid fjord]

that's stock xmp and jedec

[azure topaz]

all ics will end up at least 3600 for the most part

if you actually are pushing the chips

[rigid fjord]

jedec also tbf

[azure topaz]

i mean yeah

3600 is a jedec spec even iirc

[rigid fjord]

for ddr5, not ddr4 though

[pliant marsh]

Idk man, most people I talked to could not hit 3600CL16

CL18 yes but not 16

[crude glen]

aliexpress ram or nah

[solid grotto]

What’s like the best way to apply thermal paste on an I9 14900k?

[rigid fjord]

spread it

[azure topaz]

are they playing with voltages?

[pliant marsh]

For 1700 I would say either line or spread

[solid grotto]

What can I use to do that cause I didn’t get a spreader with the paste

[pliant marsh]

not above 1.5

[rigid fjord]

credit/debit card or something similar to that

[solid grotto]

Alright thank you I’ll try it

[pliant marsh]

I mean you can also just do a vertical line with Socket 1700

[crude glen]

where cna i get cheap as 2133 mhz ram

ebay?

[azure topaz]

only one but 3600 bdie

[rigid fjord]

wouldn't call it a large print tbh, but it's an ender 3 neo, but as cura doesn't have a profile for that, using ender 3/v2 profile does the same

also, temps already dialed in at 210c for the filiment with 60c for the bed

[gentle kestrel]

nah i have no use for ddr4

i just saw the odd bin and was curious

[azure topaz]

3400 cute bin i like mine

[gentle kestrel]

i got back to booting 8000 but it's still super unstable so i have no use for any more ram kits rn

[gleaming meteor]

oof the ender 3 apparently cant keep up with faster printers and i guess the neo too

is the neo direct drive

[crude glen]

fuck bro why is 2133mhz ram actually expensive

[azure topaz]

bro

[gleaming meteor]

if yes then i guess you can try 90mm/s

[gentle kestrel]

what happened to 32gb ram for $60

[azure topaz]

get normal ECC ram

8gb dimms should be 12$ each, you need 4

16GB dimms are higher value at 20$ per

DDR4 ECC get any speed

if it’s too fast the computer will slow the ram down itself

[crude glen]

does it have to be ecc

i thought x99 could use either

[azure topaz]

no but that’s cheaper than normal ram so why

[crude glen]

ok

[azure topaz]

it can. ecc is cheaper

[crude glen]

you think i really need 32 or nah

[ocean axle]

for DDR4 ECC, yea no, should be cheaper than that

[gentle kestrel]

i know the sr doesn't need them but this still looks weird

[ocean axle]

can get 32GB DIMMs for < $30 ezpz

if you are ok with 2133 or 2400

[crude glen]

im capped at 2133

[azure topaz]

this is what i saw last time i was looking

[ocean axle]

3200 might be a bit higher than $1/GB still, but slow speeds should be under $1/GB

[azure topaz]

32gb dimms x1 sucks for gaming, this is the problem lol

[crude glen]

im getting a better mobo since im not getting combo

[azure topaz]

id ditch x99 if youre not getting a combo

[crude glen]

what you reccomend then

[azure topaz]

why not like am4

you can probably get an aliexpress am4 combo for cheap

something like a 3600 and shitty micro atx board

[crude glen]

im trying to keep the mobo cpu and ram combo for under 80 bro

[gentle kestrel]

go back to your $60 combo

and spend 8 dollars on the other cpu

then just throw the old cpu in the bin

[crude glen]

yeah thats what i was thinking lol

but the mobo doesnt have the dpm2.0 built in

[gentle kestrel]

do you mean tpm?

[crude glen]

yeah

[gentle kestrel]

that doesn't really matter

[crude glen]

its fine i dont even play esports titles like that

[gentle kestrel]

you need to bypass the win 11 reqs anyway

[crude glen]

yep

[azure topaz]

if you do just install windows 10 instead

valorant won’t give you sec boot or tpm pop up on w10

at least last i tried

[gentle kestrel]

yeah 10 ltsc has support till 2032

[vital yacht]

i wish they can review lenovo legion desktoips 🙁

[crude glen]

ok

were back to original build cost plus 8

1650 v3 and an rtx 2060 should be calm

[azure topaz]

my friend has an x99 based rig i gave him

[crude glen]

what r the stats

[azure topaz]

with a 1650 v3

[crude glen]

what gpu\

[azure topaz]

and some form of memory

[azure topaz]

shitter rx 580 4 gig

[crude glen]

LOL

[azure topaz]

he gets cheapo hand me downs cause he doesn’t pay for anything but he’s still a homie

i make sure his rig can still play video games and that’s just about it

[crude glen]

so rn the build cost is like 270

[azure topaz]

yeesh

[crude glen]

pretty calm

[azure topaz]

for x99? idk

i was able to get a ryzen computer recently on facebook for 100$

[crude glen]

110 is the graphics card

[azure topaz]

at the cost of having to clean it but it was a full computer

had the very 580 i’m talking about in it

[vital yacht]

oo can i see?

[azure topaz]

got it like idk 3 weeks ago for 100$

[vital yacht]

im trying to figure out waht wrong with the gpu

[azure topaz]

1tb ssd
ryzen 5 1400
rx 580 8gb
16gb ram i replaced

[azure topaz]

nothing they just do that

[azure topaz]

100$

[crude glen]

its an ali express mobo combo, x99 and 32gb of ram but im switching out the cpu for a 1650v3, a cheapo cooler on aliexpress, a cheap small case on amazon, a 256gb nvme for windows, and a used psu on ebay

[azure topaz]

it was gross but

gave the gpu to my homie and the rest of the pc to my sister

[vital yacht]

ima puke

[azure topaz]

sister has it with a 6650xt rn but she’s getting a big upgrade soon

at least cpu wise

[vital yacht]

you rich or smt?

[azure topaz]

no i just like computers

i go through too many to not give them away

especially to loved ones

[crude glen]

what would you improve about my build?

[vital yacht]

i work on engines at home as a hobby and collect old garden tractors

[azure topaz]

am4 would be a lot nicer, something like a 3600 and 580 to upgrade off

i’d skimp on your graphics card for now to get a newer cpu

[vital yacht]

im not good at visioning stuff even with given part numbers

[crude glen]

this is not a pc id want to upgrade, i dont plan on playing modern triple A

[vital yacht]

used psu on ebay is a no

[crude glen]

why

[azure topaz]

i mean, playing anything kind of modern on that is still going to be a steuggle

[azure topaz]

for what the original choice was; it’s fine, trust

[rigid fjord]

for x and y axis it uses a timing belt on the motor, for the z axis it's using a t8 screw shaft connected via collet to the stepper motor, though the rollers been removed for linear bearings instead so the movement is alot smoother on the z and x axis,

[azure topaz]

i will buy this guy a new psu if it’s not

[vital yacht]

my dad be like oo fire hazard

[azure topaz]

deadass tho

[azure topaz]

nah he had a shit as balls one

no name amazon unit with the thinnest and shortest cables i’ve seen

35$ isn’t much wiggle room

[crude glen]

it prolly would have been fine

[azure topaz]

either used but kinda ok or garbage

[midnight meteor]

Build one /j

[solid grotto]

Okay if at 300-400watts during a cinebench test is 70-90c across the cpu a normal temp?

[vital yacht]

i can get a 850 watt psu from bestbuy for 99dollars

[rigid fjord]

tbh, a ras pi 4 over this

[azure topaz]

300-400? what cpu

[crude glen]

it cant be that bad

[solid grotto]

I9 14900k

[gentle kestrel]

only a like 330% increase in price

[crude glen]

itll be fine yall are hating

[azure topaz]

okay? i got one of the best psus ever made for 65$ 3 years ago, 1300W G2 Supernova

[stoic nova]

If it was anything lower than 80c or 90c that wouldn't be normal

[rigid fjord]

you could get a tier A/B one on amazon for $85

[vital yacht]

3 years ago tho, economy changed

[azure topaz]

300-400 is not cool able without exotic cooling. can i see the hwinfo panel(

[vital yacht]

nah i only buy stuff from bestbuy

[crude glen]

alr im out now

[azure topaz]

HAHAHAH you can get the same one for the same price

from the same store even.

[crude glen]

see yall ill let you know when i assemble my abomination

[azure topaz]

don’t play wit me floppa knows methods untold by man

[vital yacht]

i just particular guy about things though so that just me'

i need good quality that trusted and well knownb

[crude glen]

xeons are pretty cool

[rigid fjord]

easiest console build in a ras pi, and you can get it to emulate all of the consoles you want essentially

[vital yacht]

it like buying a engine bearing

[azure topaz]

https://ebay.us/m/nBsEK8

[rigid fjord]

this is how you get screwed tbh

[vital yacht]

ill buy from jawa

[azure topaz]

over basically the same thing if not more trustworthy?

[vital yacht]

best buy always got stuff on sale

[azure topaz]

you can even get like, real insurance from ebay

EVGA also has a great warranty policy

[vital yacht]

seems sketchy

[midnight meteor]

How?

[azure topaz]

yes because state farm insurance is sketchy lol

the same guys who run thousands of tv ads lol

[midnight meteor]

I bought all my pc parts from Canada computers cause I had one close by that I could buy everything from

[azure topaz]

idk if it’s even state farm but it’s an popular insurance agency

[rigid fjord]

so does many other merchants, doesn't mean going to a single place is wise

[midnight meteor]

You don’t need to stick to a place to get all your stuff tho

[azure topaz]

get everything where it’s cheapest

and or convenient if that wins

[vital yacht]

i just liek best buy dads

espiacaly the the homedepot dads

escuse my grammar

[azure topaz]

like i’d prefer to go somewhere irl for a part. i’d pay like 10% more to just go get it

[rigid fjord]

sadly, being in the uk, amazon is kind of the better place to go for new pc stuff, unless you're in specific parts of the uk

[azure topaz]

i get stuff from best buy all the time cause the ease of getting parts the same day is fire

[vital yacht]

fr bro

[azure topaz]

my 7800xt was from best buy lol

[rigid fjord]

like manchester, you got easier access to overclockers uk's shop

[azure topaz]

i did hate it but i don’t think they cursed it

[rigid fjord]

scan also for up there

[vital yacht]

ill usualy buy from brand sits

[midnight meteor]

The one Best Buy employee pulling out the book of gpu curses to give the clearance gpus artifacts

[azure topaz]

no the drivers just uninstalled a couple times by themselves

not cool

it’s like it wanted me to install a different card

[midnight meteor]

Weird but yeah not a Best Buy issue

[rigid fjord]

pcworld/curry's is one of the worst places to go for pc stuff unless you're aiming for some oem stuff or a shit prebuild from 'pcspecialists'

[vital yacht]

i work at bestbuy

[azure topaz]

this mf

fucking sponsored post he’s advertising for them

[vital yacht]

sike lmao

[midnight meteor]

I am excited for midterms to be over so I can put up my projector shelf

[rigid fjord]

tbf dude, if i worked for arctic or sapphire, i'd definitely would do more than just shill them

[midnight meteor]

Yeah you’d probs work there /j

[rigid fjord]

good products while generally not overpriced(especially arctic)

[rigid fjord]

if only, if only, i mean, you can't argue with arctic for their 5 pack of p12/p14 pwm pst/ pro pst's for $30-40 equivalence

[vital yacht]

i game on a intel Pentium with a rtx 4080 super

[crude glen]

floppa what about the 1650v4

[neon lantern]

Is my cpu overclocked?

[rigid fjord]

if we stick ln2/lh/dice on it, yes

[neon lantern]

What? 😂

[midnight meteor]

They have a 5 pack on Amazon for 45 cad that’s pretty good

[rigid fjord]

amd fx series, great for XOC

[midnight meteor]

I don’t really know if I really need them but that’s neat

[rigid fjord]

they easily match noctua's performance which makes them even more worth their value

[midnight meteor]

Isnt the draw of noctua the sound?

[neon lantern]

Not great for much else lol

[azure topaz]

also fine

not a big difference

[crude glen]

better or not worth for the price increase

[ripe spire]

Another one bites the dust

[tired bear]

for me discord does a damn good job of hiding the phishers and spammers

[sonic marlin]

I just got a new OLED, do I need to turn it off when I turn my PC off or can I just let it enter standby mode?

[ripe spire]

Lucky

[abstract wigeon]

standy is fine, as long as screen is black youre good

[stoic nova]

Set your standby in windows to no more than 10 minutes, 5 ideally

And never think about it again.

You can disable sleep if you wanted to

The monitor should (if built in the past 4 years) do all it's pixel refresh maintenance automatically when it goes on standby

[sonic marlin]

I turn my PC off when I'm done using it and then my monitor goes into standby in like 10 seconds,

[tired bear]

i dont respond to people i dont know at all so maybe i got removed from some spam list they have

[ripe spire]

I enjoy verbally abusing scammers

[stoic nova]

I would give this same advice to someone extremely burn-in paranoid

So you're all set there

[tired bear]

these are people just saying hi
am i going to respond - nope as that is start of phish

[sonic marlin]

I baby everything I own so it lasts as long as possible

[ripe spire]

Lmao fair enough, I rly enjoy very abusing scammers 😂

[azure topaz]

it’s pennies just get the best one in the budget

[random junco]

mess around with em

[midnight meteor]

Is it living up to the hype?

[pale flint]

hmmm

[tired bear]

nah, ill rather shitpost somewhere else

[pale flint]

love messin with them on phone

[ocean axle]

does it access the wifis?

[pale flint]

huh

[ocean axle]

when "tech support" asks you to do anything

ask them that

[pale flint]

whaf

[ocean axle]

"tech support" (scammers)*

[pale flint]

hello sar i am from microsoft tech support

[past sonnet]

Yeah

I think

[random junco]

pinging my server is faster than the own device im running

[tired bear]

there is something wrong with your network stack

[crude glen]

how would i go about over clocking a xeon

[tired bear]

step 1: back away slowly

[crude glen]

i’m gonna do it

i ain’t paying that power bill ✌️ 😂

[tired bear]

you overclock a xeon by getting another one

[strange atlas]

is it possible to clear vram without closing the game

[knotty breach]

GPU Technician Here?
Can I Convert Mining RX470 To Normal Version?
Because I Came Cross These Mining 470s

[stoic nova]

Loopback is supposed to do this @random junco

Idk aren't you the GPU technician

[tawny lava]

is it okay to leave pump and vrm fan 100%

[tired bear]

yes, you flash a normal bios for amd cards

for nvidia cards, you are SOL

[balmy tapir]

if it's a bios then assuming sapphire has the bios available i'd say yes

[balmy tapir]

can you not flash bios on nvidia cards?

[stoic nova]

Does your pump at 100% make noise you don't want when your PC isnt doing much

[knotty breach]

If I Flash These Card Can Get Image Of DP?

[tired bear]

they are not the same hardware

[stoic nova]

Seller would probably do it for you if you asked

[tired bear]

check if card has DP port, some mining cards have like one output

some have none

[knotty breach]

Both 470s Have HDMi

Instead Of DP

[balmy tapir]

you'd need to solder on a DP if you really wanted dp out

[knotty breach]

Here's One Fan 470

[balmy tapir]

i just wouldn't buy this tbh

[stoic nova]

Oh lol. Why is dp so crucial

[knotty breach]

22 $

[random gyro]

damn

[balmy tapir]

still? if you need DP it's not worth the headache

[stoic nova]

It's not like HDMI is bottlenecking it's 240hz 32:9 4k capabilities

[knotty breach]

I Was Thought Its DP But No

So We Good?

[tired bear]

lmao no

4k 60 4:4:4 max

[buoyant bridge]

why does this small bit of info scare "tech enthusiasts" so much

[rigid fjord]

beaten by arctic by 2db funily enough, and no filter needed to make it run slightly slower to reduce the sound

[knotty breach]

Will It Works As Normal 470?

After Flash?

[balmy tapir]

it should yes

[balmy tapir]

is this real??

[stoic nova]

Imagine youre checking out some stuff you got at the store and the clerk refuses to let you walk out even if you got cash in hand to sign up for their loyalty reward program

[tired bear]

if on hardware level everything is fine then yes (core and memory)

[random junco]

i wish i knew what loopback was

[buoyant bridge]

yeah it works on W10 too instead of unplugging your network

[midnight meteor]

Well I def will look into it if I find I need more fans, rn my bigger issue is the front filter in my case is pretty small area wise

[tired bear]

it can only be done on pro and up

[buoyant bridge]

okay but this is literally just a intentional feature that lets you create a local account

[knotty breach]

I Have To Risk It

[buoyant bridge]

ima be real if you care about local accs that much you care enough to buy pro anyways and you probably built ur PC or at the least installed windows urself

[random gyro]

like windows 11 pro?

[knotty breach]

Big Gamble

[tired bear]

yes, AD join is not availbile on home edition

[random gyro]

ah, i have windows 11 pro

[buoyant bridge]

using domain join to create a local account still works its LITTERALLY an intentional feature

[stoic nova]

doesn't domain setup also mess with permission hierarchy

[rigid fjord]

on w10, you can get it to skip without unplugging the network cable anyways, you don't have to do a domain join

[buoyant bridge]

no

[midnight meteor]

How are you meant to do it without local accounts if you don’t have WiFi

[tired bear]

well yes

[rigid fjord]

the way i just shown

[stoic nova]

They will hold you hostage at the setup screen until you do

[random gyro]

whats enterprise

[buoyant bridge]

I dobut anyone in this chat runs windows 11/10 home

[midnight meteor]

You still have to basically get around it

[knotty breach]

@tired bear HDMI Port Doesn't Work On Mining Bios?

[buoyant bridge]

the enterprise version? I've been running enterprise since vista

[random gyro]

my gaming laptop runs 11 home

[random gyro]

like what's different between that and home version

[buoyant bridge]

domain join option

[tired bear]

it should but performance is diffrent if mining bios is installed

[rigid fjord]

nope, literally as i typed

[buoyant bridge]

dawg I've litterally used the domain join option on a system that had no network drivers

[knotty breach]

I Don't Man I Kinda Fear

But 22$

[stoic nova]

Irrelevant things like.... licensing, and remote administration

[buoyant bridge]

my ethernet drivers have to be installed (i225) it worked fine without network

[random gyro]

so useless?

[stoic nova]

Eh.

[rigid fjord]

intentially the command i sent is what the oobe is supposed to do for initial install, no need for domain join, it's also no network drivers needed

[buoyant bridge]

domain join creates a NORMAL local account with the expectation you will use it to join active directory, you do not HAVE to join active directory though

[stoic nova]

If you're a nerd they're cool

[buoyant bridge]

domain join just creates a normal local account for you to configure the system

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/money-mr-krabs-gif-18326632

[buoyant bridge]

you can just use it as a normal local acc as I do

[random gyro]

i ain't a super nerd lmao, i just use windows mainly for gaming

[random gyro]

obviously lol

[buoyant bridge]

W10 pro

[vague glacier]

whats up bad bitches

[stoic nova]

Does home get sandbox?

[tired bear]

no

[buoyant bridge]

W11 pro
(normal local account)

[stoic nova]

Nvm then

[tired bear]

no hyperv = no sandbox

[rigid fjord]

shift + f10, then typing start ms-cxh:localonly literally brings up the option to create locak accounts without even need to do a domain join

[vague glacier]

Do those linux container systems that allow you to run windows apps slow down your system at all

[buoyant bridge]

I don't think you realize that pressing domain join and that command do the EXACT same thing

[stoic nova]

Winboat?

[vague glacier]

ya stuff like that

[stoic nova]

Idk I don't know how to setup docker

[vague glacier]

I will fight you

[rigid fjord]

on windows 10, i never had to do either a domain join let alone that command, i just clicked the link at the bottom saying i had no network despite having a network

[tired bear]

i use this on vm's
so good

[buoyant bridge]

later versions of W10 removed the local account option (this is pro btw)

[rigid fjord]

and this is with a reinstall of win10 pro

[stoic nova]

Ah yea, consumer features flag = 0

Saves you a fair amount of time deleting windows store shortcuts

[rigid fjord]

latest version of win10 pro is 22h2, nothing newer and still lets you skip without doing this

[tired bear]

windows version that is used on sandbox is also peek

[stoic nova]

https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/

[buoyant bridge]

not true for the past few months if you didnt unplug network before oobe you dont have the local acc option anymore

[stoic nova]

Have fun

[tired bear]

but idk if there is a way of using it on main pc

[rigid fjord]

very true, it be win 11 that they've removed the oobe option

[random gyro]

windows 10 is coming to an end :)

[buoyant bridge]

the domain join and local account buttons have done the same exact thing since domain join was added in Windows Vista lol

[buoyant bridge]

rauko doesn't gat that W11 has local accounts fully offically just under a dif option

[random gyro]

whats the option?

[stoic nova]

Path of least resistance is skipping oobe

[buoyant bridge]

domain join instead

[buoyant bridge]

as shown here its a standard local account

no entering commands, no modded iso

[random gyro]

how you get there tho without the wifi

isn't that the step after?

[exotic cape]

i guess that potentially the Base Camp software has been compromised.

[stoic nova]

Eh. Can still load up an unattend file.

[buoyant bridge]

i've always just had it bring me straight to work/school accounts when wifi isnt connected

[random gyro]

ya but i had to on my desktop (like it wasn't connected when i reset windows)

so i had to do the code prompt in order to get local account

[buoyant bridge]

mabye its cus I use enterprise instead of pro normally?

[random gyro]

prob

this is my first time with a pro version so

my gaming laptop has regular windows 11

(i think)

[tired bear]

i always remove preinstalled trash

[buoyant bridge]

domain join instead works normally as a local acc unless you have a active direct domain on network though afaik

[rigid fjord]

i do get it, i also know you're going through more steps than needed

[random gyro]

well when i got my desktop back in july, i had issues in games, apparently the prebuild with windows aren't always the best

[tired bear]

lots of bloat

[rigid fjord]

6 more days til it's fully EoL'd

[tired bear]

*ouside of eu

[summer crow]

Is it worth it to oc a 9950x3d?

[rigid fjord]

nope, only worth it to do the curve optimizer part inside pbo

[random gyro]

what's that

[random gyro]

i have a 7600x3d

[rigid fjord]

win10's EoL date is 14 oct 25

[summer crow]

Thanks

[random gyro]

i had to look up what eol meant lol

[summer crow]

Is asus ai overclock garbage? I never used it before I assume it is

[gleaming meteor]

got most of it done

mounts etc tommorow

[stoic nova]

This is kinda like asking is docp garbage. Asus motherboards have comingled everything with it.

Good news you can stop most of it by just turning off it's qfan optimism scale

[rigid fjord]

i'd move the c14 connector either right over to the far left or closer to the psu

[summer crow]

SP 119?

[crude glen]

i think i’m not gonna buy. a new case

might bank on getting a cheap used one or one for free

[bright surge]

so, hypothetically, i have 5 drives, of the identical models and such, what would be a good RAID configuration for them

[summer crow]

Black coolant turned out good

[mystic knoll]

Going back to this, I'm looking to upgrade my pc and I went to newegg. There is a deal for a Intel Core Ultra 7 265K and Asus Prime B860M-AWIFI-CSM motherboard. The CPU costs $349 so I am basically getting a $40 motherboard that I can upgrade to ATX later right (Prices CAD)? Also is the CPU any good? I do gaming but also a fair amount of productivity stuff like 3d modelling and Coding, I use aps like Fusion 360, Blender, Arduino IDE, Obviously VS code. I also play games like Valorant and Forza Horizon 5. Is this deal worth looking into?

[tired bear]

zfs z1

or z2 if you want to have ability for 2 drive failoure

[bright surge]

can you elaborate on those, i didnt see them when doing some basic research

[tired bear]

https://www.45drives.com/community/articles/linux-raid-vs-zfs-raid/

"One highlight that ZFS has over traditional RAID is that it's not susceptible to the RAID write hole, and it gets around this by having variable width striping on the zpool. So ZFS comes with some other features that traditional RAID doesn't have, which is the L2 Ark and the ZIL, or the ZFS intent log, and what this does is it allows RAM and SSDs to work as a cache for high speed. So Brett has done some great content talking about these features in a previous tech tip, so if you're interested, definitely check that out on the video called “ZFS Read and Write Caching”."

[bright surge]

the drives i plan to use are all going to be 8TB gen 4 NVME drives

if that makes any difference

[tired bear]

in any case please have a ups

[bright surge]

for my main PC

[random junco]

uh

[ripe python]

okay so how bad is a thermal take smart 600 in my case?
i have a r5 3600 and an rx 6700xt so i believe i have some overhead power wise but still

[bright surge]

i DEFINATELY need to get one, but cost and that they are REALLY hard to understand what specs i need

[tired bear]

will it be windows or linux?
will you be booting from them?

[bright surge]

windows, yes

going to be installing the other 4 drives once i can afford to get them

then setting it up

[tired bear]

i would advise against this

[ocean axle]

why get 5x 8TB drives?

[bright surge]

STORAGE

[ocean axle]

ok, but in your desktop?

[ripe python]

or just do a nas?

[bright surge]

yes

[tired bear]

what motherboard do you have?

this will need 20 pcie lanes

[ocean axle]

once you get up to that kind of storage amount, you should probably have a NAS with a proper array in it

[bright surge]

MSI MEG Z890 ACE

yes yes, i DO intend to have a NAS later on

again, once i can afford one

[ocean axle]

can probably build one for less than a single one of those 8TB drives, but whatever

[ripe python]

then why do...4x8tb drives on your desktop?

[bright surge]

5x8

[ocean axle]

and yea, if you have a NAS, why 5x8TB in your desktop?

[bright surge]

capacity, and convienence

because i would ALSO need a switch to be able to get the most out of a nas

[ocean axle]

yup, those aren't that much

$30 for one with two 10g ports

[tired bear]

i would trade 3 of those ssd's for a nas and rest into hdd storage

[bright surge]

except, again, it would have to be something like a 100 gig switch, if i understand how they work, for my needs for the long term plan i have

so YES it WOULD be expensive

[ocean axle]

if you think you need a 100g switch, you dont

[ripe python]

you can get a better one in the future?

[ocean axle]

if you need a 100g switch, you know you need one, you dont think you need one

and you can always upgrade your networking, or do direct connect to NAS

and 100g is really hard to actually utilize, particularly by yourself

[tired bear]

you dont need that, if you want 100g connection to nas it can be done without a switch with a direct connection

[ocean axle]

you are liable to run into many other internal system bottlenecks before you hit 100g

[bright surge]

forget it, ill go ask somewhere where im NOT being interogated on why i need this setup...

[tired bear]

above 25 you really need rdma

[ripe python]

we're trying to save you money and wasted effort?

[tired bear]

if you insist install them and use no raid at all

[ripe python]

also depending on the gen youre buying, a nas+switch may be a tenth of the price

unless were talking about sata, nvme on the otherhand will cost you an arm and a leg

[ocean axle]

what are you even trying run where you think this is necessary?

[random junco]

whats the point of switches? im new to home servers and i dont have one, its just connected to ethernet.

[tired bear]

eh, not really
all you need is a mobo with bifurcation, a pcie 16x to 4x4 nvme

[stoic nova]

Use-case / need is crucial

[ocean axle]

to connect more than one device to a network, you need a switch (or hub, but those aren't used much today)

[ripe python]

point still stand though, gen 5 nvmes are EXPENSIVE

[ocean axle]

if your "router" has more than one ethernet port, it probably has a switch internally

usually, those are 1gbe switches

[random junco]

oh yeah my routers got 3 ports, im using one for my gaming pc, one for the server and one for the home security alarm

[ocean axle]

yea, so, thats going to have an internal 4 port switch

3 external, and 1 to the actual router

[random junco]

ahh ok

[ocean axle]

you can use an additional switch to one of those ports, and get more ports

[random junco]

so what if i had multiple systems i wanted to cluster

[random junco]

ah k that makes sense

[ocean axle]

you can also use a faster switch to get higher speeds between devices

[random junco]

do switches spread the speeds across each port? or would they individually be the standard ethernet speed from the router

[ocean axle]

two computers on the same network can talk directly to eachother at a higher speed, so if you have a 10g switch (and cables, and nics), even if your internet is slower thats ok.

the router is just another computer as far as the (local) network is concerned

do switches spread the speeds across each port?
no

[random junco]

so 1gbps per port in the switch

assuming i've got 1gbps internet speeds

[ocean axle]

<@&750150305383186585>

[random junco]

no

[ocean axle]

up to however fast the other end is

basically its just a trace the series of tubes

[random junco]

thats actually interesting tbh

cant ethernet splitters do the same

[stoic nova]

Nah.

[ocean axle]

for all intents and purposes, a switch is an ethernet splitter

[ocean axle]

A and B can be talking at 1gbps each way, while C is talking to the router (downloading something) at your full internet speed, all through one switch

most switches have a switching capacity for all ports to be usable at full bandwidth

that is to say, a 1gbps switch can have 1gbps of traffic coming in (and therefore out) on all ports, at the same time

if thats a 48 port switch, usually it can do 48gbps of traffic through it, 1gbps from each and every port, out another one

[random junco]

appreciate the share of knowledge

[stoic nova]

Right but what about real. Analog. Ethernet splitter.

[tired bear]

Cheap unmanaged ones = more ports
Managed switch= more ports, higher visibility and ease of diagnosis, vlans

[stoic nova]

2 inputs to one rj45

[random junco]

2 inputs?

[ocean axle]

unmanaged can also be used for higher speeds to

ie: 2.5g or 10g

[ocean axle]

can work for 100mb, but dont thats not standard wiring

[tired bear]

Sure, both can be used for that

[stoic nova]

Lan party setup guys

[ocean axle]

more ports is the usual thing a switch is gotten for

[stoic nova]

Plug in let's go

[ocean axle]

you sure thats a splitter and not just a 4 port switch?

its probably just a 4 port switch

[tired bear]

I don't see power input and i doubt its poe

[stoic nova]

Unless you see some means of interfacing and power

[ocean axle]

i dont likethis

[stoic nova]

Nah there's a hidden serial port on the back

[tired bear]

Search about thin Ethernet and token ring

[stoic nova]

Holy shit we got the analog subnet

[ocean axle]

token REEEEEEEing

[limpid dune]

wait chat is this real? are zen 5 CCDs actually the same size-ish as ARL CCDs?

[frozen galleon]

I've been using my 11400 for about 5 years now and a really shit kit of ram that crashes when I XMP the RAM to it's rated 3200mhz. A new kit costs 79 AUD should I buy that or just stick with the 2133 mhz and save up for a new platform

[limpid dune]

if possible, try OCing the RAM manually... although your board might not allow that

also: try reinserting the RAM and CPU to see if it's just a little jiggled

[frozen galleon]

I did do that a while ago it did work but I cleared the CMOS to do something else and now I've totally forgot how I did it but I do remember it was a pain in in the ass

[kindred cave]

Need help it's not fitting??

[frozen galleon]

Nah its all firm

[kindred cave]

Guys 😭😭😭😭

[limpid dune]

read the instructions. that backplate says LGA-115X on it. you have an AM5 socket

go look in the box and find the AM5 backplate

[kindred cave]

Ok one sec

[frozen galleon]

So should I just stick with 2133?

Im not ssure if RAM speed really affects 11th gen

[limpid dune]

even if it's a pain, it's worth it for $80. I usually write down my OC on a stickynote and paste it on the inside of the case so I can see it when I'm working on it

[ocean axle]

you know that doesnt exist right?

[kindred cave]

This makes no sense I'm sorry 😭

Yo @left dove I need you 😭😭

[ocean axle]

am5's backplate is part of the ILM mounting

you dont remove or replace it, you just use the default one

[kindred cave]

So I don't need the black piece?

[frozen galleon]

Thats true, but I've totally forgot what to overclock or where to even start I do remember just changing the frequency and maybe turning the voltage down

[ocean axle]

no, the board came with it pre-installed

[kindred cave]

So don't use this

[ocean axle]

you just need to remove the plastic clip brackets on the top

no, that is ONLY for intel CPUs

[left dove]

google a video tutorial for your cpu socket and cooler model, one's bound to exist on youtube

[kindred cave]

I did and the dude screwed me over lol

[left dove]

I'm sorry the manual kinda sucks it's just the way shit is lately

[kindred cave]

So I need this right?

Or remove it

[ocean axle]

thats how you do it

[left dove]

yeah you're doing it right

[ocean axle]

make sure those screws are tight (but dont strip them), add thermal paste, and install cooler

[left dove]

the cooler screws into the two side holes with a bolt on top

[kindred cave]

So put on thermal paste and it would go on like this?

[left dove]

so essentially the order you have to do now is

thermal paste on the cpu

put cpu cooler over top with the 2 holes aligned

attach 2 nuts that thread on

yeah you're doing it all right

the "nuts" are the 2 crosshead screws on the cpu cooler

ezpz to install, you got dis

[kindred cave]

Ok

So what I understand -
Thermal paste
Put it on aligned
Screw in

[left dove]

ja

OH

[kindred cave]

Yes?

[left dove]

when screwing it in, don't just fully tighten one side in one go, slowly screw each side in until being able to wiggle the cooler with your hands becomes a bit resistive but still able under normal arm force

[kindred cave]

Ok ❤️

[left dove]

dont forget to remove the plastic sheet on the cooler if there is one, it'll probably be labeled

on the cpu plate

[frozen galleon]

If I my RAM voltage on the preset XMP profile is at 1.35 Volts and I manually set the DRAM voltage to 1.25 would that override the profile?

[kindred cave]

Is this to much?

[left dove]

user>profile

[left dove]

naww thats good

[stoic nova]

Bro did the forbidden finger paste application technique

[left dove]

nah thats with the tube tip probably

[stoic nova]

Must be one massive tip

[left dove]

[kindred cave]

Ok I did it

[stoic nova]

We will find out shortly

Did you put your finger in the paste Nibzle

[frozen galleon]

Got it, my PC didn’t post when I had the dram voltage to 1.25 at 3200 should I try and bump it up to 1.3? I just know it crashes at 1.35v which is what the xmp profile has

[kindred cave]

Can you help me with all the other bolts?

[left dove]

the ends of the little wire things go into the fan holes, the middle clips onto the middle of the fin stack on the cpu cooler

on the sides

[tired bear]

Btw manual is in the box

[left dove]

oh shush i signed up for this

so far he's doing great

[kindred cave]

So like this?

[left dove]

yes!!

[kindred cave]

Oh thank God lmao

That goes there correct?

[left dove]

ja

[bitter rampart]

Anyone here know anything about sound systems

[stoic nova]

That's more vague than most vague questions

Impressive

[bitter rampart]

I need to know if I can connect my subwoofer and a pair of speakers to the same channel. My subwoofer doesn't pull any power from it but uses it for the level input

[kindred cave]

So now just need to put in the ram?

I already installed storage

[left dove]

"level" means that it's less than 3v output, so you need a powered subwoofer or a dedicated subwoofer amp.

[left dove]

in slots 2 & 4

[bitter rampart]

I don't understand

This is a powered subwoofer

[kindred cave]

Yeah, I gotta wait can I install it as the last component?

Its getting delivered soon

[left dove]

why are you feeding it sub>perif then, you should be running l/r to the sub

[bitter rampart]

I have 2 sets of L and R speakers

[left dove]

???????????

[bitter rampart]

The secondary lines on my receiver are no longer functioning

[left dove]

explain your full setup with pictures.

[bitter rampart]

So I have four speakers, front a and front b pairs

[left dove]

so you have a pair of speakers on each a/b channel, ok

[bitter rampart]

My subwoofer has ports for A and b channels

The secondary channel is no longer working

[left dove]

"center' is NOT sub

[bitter rampart]

That's a center speaker I forgot to mention

[kindred cave]

I also have no idea what this is or how to install it

[left dove]

use this with a subwoofer amp to power your sub.