tech-chat-1

[empty quartz]

When i opened up the phone, they had also bent the grounding pins

[ebon marlin]

I did a screen repair on my sisters iPhone 14 Pro she dropped it from 2 stories don't know how but it survived and all it had was a small crack

[empty quartz]

They’re not for decoration

[ebon marlin]

Garbage service and garbage products

[warm linden]

Decent deal

[ebon marlin]

Eitherway I buy my 3rd party screens from a reputable company aswell

[ebon marlin]

That's an abysmal dogshit deal

[ebon marlin]

JK LCD they're also partners with TCL

[near jewel]

catto i went back to OnePlus, couldn't resist

[ebon marlin]

Other companies too

[empty quartz]

I only use oem screens now, and my store doesnt do any third party repairs, except for battery and storage on devices apple considers vintage

[ebon marlin]

Nice

[near jewel]

out of my collection of phones OnePlus and apple are the only ones worth showing off

oh, and the vivo. vivo x200 ultra

but it doesn't have mobile here in the USA

perfectly fine tradeoff for the massive cameras

[warm linden]

I misread, I thought it said 5070ti

[ebon marlin]

I think a 5070 Ti for 400usd would be much more than just a "decent deal"

[near jewel]

probably a scam

[wheat torrent]

oh yeah

[carmine yew]

https://wccftech.com/maxsun-intros-single-slot-liquid-cooled-arc-pro-b60-48g-for-up-to-7x-gpu-configuration/amp/

This is awesome

[worthy pumice]

Is pairing a 3060 with a i5-8400 bad? Running with 16GB ram as well

[carmine yew]

Not that bad

[ebon marlin]

I've seen multiple people pair i7 8700k's with 3090's

[carmine yew]

Gpu is probably a bit ahead of the cpu, but not horrible

[worthy pumice]

Not too bad of a bottleneck?

[carmine yew]

Gonna depend on the game

[worthy pumice]

Resident Evil, Dead By Daylight

Sons Of The Forest

[carmine yew]

Do you really think I can answer that about everything?

[wheat torrent]

My 4090 cannot handle 15000x4000

[worthy pumice]

I mean they are light games

[ebon marlin]

Noob

[wheat torrent]

Windows just crashed

[worthy pumice]

Welp

[whole garden]

L

[wheat torrent]

And it's using 24gb vram without any app open

[rigid fjord]

absolutely golden

[muted quarry]

i did change the ssd to a Teamgroup T-force G50 but thats all

[rigid fjord]

should have kept the cras 910

[muted quarry]

i can change it back

[rose stream]

Damn, how did I miss this conversation piece with Solus being involved?

[wheat torrent]

gulp

[sonic siren]

Leak now

[wheat torrent]

44 million pixels

holy moly

[muted quarry]

i think i will buy all the parts on the same site just to save costs on delivery, but i am looking on scorptec and the powersupply will be a v3 instead of v2 and i don't think i can get the ssd on scorpte, are there any other options you can think of?

[wheat torrent]

who knew minecraft can use 24gb vram :clueless:

[sonic siren]

2 word leak.

[stark kiln]

if I really get a PC this year ill be ecstatic

[near jewel]

how did i manage this level of optimization

[near jewel]

W

[vague talon]

Hi, I've just replaced my motherboard, ram and cpu.
The PC boots but I got the lights of CPU and DRAM turned on the motherboard.
The CPU reaches 100° and the cooler is mounted correctly.
The fans of the aio are spinning but it's still getting crazy high.
I think the pump isn't plugged correctly, some help will be amazing!
I can get into windows for a few mins before the pc crash 🙏🏻

The board is asrock B850M-X R2.0

Cooler: H100 rgb 240mm

[vague talon]

In the bios
T_sensor temp: NA
CPU fan speed 1: 1000 rpm
Cpu fan speed 2: NA
AIO fan_pump fan speed: 1100 rpm

[rigid fjord]

#1027757333117415424

[muted quarry]

anyone have a good ssd around $100 Aud i can find on scorptec?

[rigid fjord]

the cras 910, otherwise teamgroup mp44l or a wd sn580

[muted quarry]

i couldn't find them but is the
Crucial T500 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSD okay?

[rigid fjord]

it's decent but you don't need a dram cached ssd tbh

[muted quarry]

or do you think i could just get the ssd from a different site but everything else from the same site?

[rigid fjord]

you could easily

[muted quarry]

ok might do that then

[dawn tundra]

Mfw pc part picker

[muted quarry]

is centre . com reliable?

[vague talon]

Anyone please 🥲
It's past 4:00
https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1424926397314498624

[dawn tundra]

Look up

[rigid fjord]

not sure, the one person i would have asked about auusie sites is banned from here

[muted quarry]

oh kk rip

amazon would be reliable definitely just it is like $40 more

[opaque violet]

How good is this gpu MSI GAMING TRIO OC WHITE GeForce RTX 5070 12 GB Video Card

For streaming

[dawn tundra]

check your post

[vague talon]

🙏🏻

[carmine yew]

It's a 5070, it's got nvenc

[muted quarry]

Samsung 990 PRO 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSD would that be fine?

[opaque violet]

What’s that I’m new

[dawn tundra]

tk we need you in the post, odd behavior

[carmine yew]

NV encoder. What you use to stream with obs.

If you want to stream, how do you not know this

[opaque violet]

I’m learning

[flat cliff]

Been trying to get my PC updated and to say it for hours now. Finally messed with TPM and secure boot. Still says a lot of stuff from 2024 last installed but does not say any updates left. I'm in the clear now right?

[crude glen]

for an upgrade to an optiplex 3050 SFF with an i5-6500, shouldi go with the a310, the rx 6400, or another low profile graphics card

[opaque violet]

I’m learning to vtuber stream

[carmine yew]

3050 6gb is way better

[opaque violet]

Honestly I need a prebuilt that’s 1300 or under

[crude glen]

how much?

send link pls im murican

[rigid fjord]

don't need dram cache nvme drive still, look up sn5000 and sn7100 instead

[opaque violet]

The one I made that’s 1600

[carmine yew]

Ask pcpp or google

[opaque violet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vLVL3w

[crude glen]

i dont plan on using it for my main pc btw just as like a living room pc for like media and assoreted consoel games

[muted quarry]

they're both out of stock 😭

[carmine yew]

Look for an 8400 or similar

[opaque violet]

What does your main pc look like

[carmine yew]

You don't want 6th gen when 10 is going eol

[crude glen]

its calm, 3070 and a 7 5800x it works for what i need it to do

i just want a pc for living room lol

[carmine yew]

Look for an i5 8400 instead

[rigid fjord]

grab a secondhand laptop or a mini pc instead then

[carmine yew]

Not 6th gen

[crude glen]

the 6th gen comes with the optiplex which is sub 50 bucks

[carmine yew]

And ir doesn't support 11

[crude glen]

i wanna use it as a base and am just looking for a gpu for said computer, im trying to keep this build under 200 bucks as i said its not my main pc

[carmine yew]

And 10 is eol

[rigid fjord]

and you won't be running win 11 on it

[crude glen]

i can use rufus to install 11

[rigid fjord]

you'll have issues because not supported

[sinful cobalt]

its not completely stable btw

[crude glen]

bro im just asking for a gpu...

[rigid fjord]

literally any intel cpu below a 7700 is not supported for win 11

[opaque violet]

Can someone rate this

[sinful cobalt]

brother do yourself a favour and get a somewhat modern CPU first

[rigid fjord]

also a media pc only needs to run off a decent igpu

[carmine yew]

The best reasonably accessible low profile gpu is a 3050 6gb

[crude glen]

i wanna do some light gaming

[carmine yew]

The a310 or 6400 are both trash tier cards overall

[crude glen]

a310 is cheap as bricks

[rigid fjord]

4060 low profile

[carmine yew]

A310 being better but not good

[carmine yew]

Not in most dells

[rigid fjord]

ah

[tribal sentinel]

will a 5700x3d bottleneck a 7900xt

[carmine yew]

And also oop

[carmine yew]

Depending

[rigid fjord]

you might as well ask why is water wet

[sinful cobalt]

aim for s 5070ti

[crude glen]

3050 lp seems like bottleneck hell

whats second best

[carmine yew]

But don't buy a Radeon 7000 today

Unless it's really cheap

[opaque violet]

I need one in white that’s not 1200

[carmine yew]

Are you buying a 7900?

[tribal sentinel]

no i have one im just wondering

[rigid fjord]

you could look at going with an amd card, like a sapphire pure 9070xt @opaque violet

[carmine yew]

Well it'll bottleneck at least some of the time

[dawn tundra]

ive never seen a cpu overheat this fast

[carmine yew]

The x3d will struggle to keep up

[dawn tundra]

92c after like 1 min 30 sec

[muted quarry]

tis a WD Black SN850X 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSD good? also what is dram cache?

[rigid fjord]

either bad mounting, poor paste application or dead pump

[dawn tundra]

come to the post

[carmine yew]

850x is great

[opaque violet]

Alr

[rigid fjord]

it makes data access on ssd's slightly faster sometimes but those that use hmb instead with slc cache usually can match it

[muted quarry]

ahh kk

[opaque violet]

Uhhhh that’s 900 never mind

[rigid fjord]

also unless you're big time coding, 3d rendering or video editing, it doesn't offer you any benefits

[rigid fjord]

you did say under 1200 and white, so that does match your requirements

[opaque violet]

Umm I have to upgrade the case now

[muted quarry]

I have no i dea how to code so i guess i won't do that, but is the 650x good?

[opaque violet]

But I will use it

[rigid fjord]

it's a good ssd in itself, it's also dram cached

[sinful cobalt]

5070ti gigabyte eagle ice

[muted quarry]

but it shouldn't matter too much right? It may come in handy in future if i get it tho

[rigid fjord]

any lexar ssd's available ? @muted quarry

[muted quarry]

theres the Lexar NQ780 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSD

[rigid fjord]

avoid that one like the black plague

[muted quarry]

ahh kk

theres also Lexar NM990 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 5.0 SSD but it is a bit out of my price range i am looking at

[rigid fjord]

streaming wise, not as good as a 5070 but it's definitely decent

[rigid fjord]

no nm760/nm790?

[opaque violet]

Is this better https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nDxWFZ

[flat cliff]

?

[left trellis]

https://www.jawa.gg/product/92812/silicon-power-a60-2tb-nvme-ssd-gen-30x4
https://www.jawa.gg/product/95900/western-digital-m2-1tb-nvme-ssd-sn720

either of these any good?

[muted quarry]

there is but it is 2T and $200 which is out of my range but i might be able to get it if it is good

Lexar NM790 2TB M.2 2280 NVMe2.0 PCIe 4.0 SSD

[left trellis]

cad?

[rigid fjord]

comparable to the 990 pro while being dramless

[muted quarry]

it is $45 more is it worth the extra?

[rigid fjord]

dollarydoo's

[grand arrow]

should i upgrade from my apple watch se 2 maxed out, to a series 11 or a maxed out se 3?

[left trellis]

why does the m480 pro keep increasing in price 😭

[rigid fjord]

the aio comes with better paste than the corsair stuff

[left trellis]

sn770 is like 125 for 2tb

[muted quarry]

is it? @rigid fjord

[rigid fjord]

not worth paying more for the same capacity unless it's your only choice

[muted quarry]

it is 1T extra

[opaque violet]

Is this better Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme 2 g Thermal Paste

[rigid fjord]

for daily use, yes it's way better

kryonaut is for XOC use only not daily use

[opaque violet]

Is the new gpu better

[muted quarry]

also does the
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB CPU Cooler come with thermal paste or do i have to buy some seperate

[rigid fjord]

so double the capacity for a bit extra?

[muted quarry]

yep

[rigid fjord]

comes with paste if buying new

[muted quarry]

kk

i think i will get the lexar then

[rigid fjord]

could be worth it then

[muted quarry]

https://www.scorptec.com.au/sc/ZFBdnKj this is the final cart then

[round scaffold]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/B2gCHW
does this list look good

[rigid fjord]

you'll want an nm790 not nq790

nm790 = tlc nand, nq790 = qlc nand

qlc nand tends to have lower endurance

[round scaffold]

ok alr

[fringe prairie]

nq790 is tlc
https://www.techpowerup.com/ssd-specs/lexar-nq790-2-tb.d2090

the 780 is qlc though

[round scaffold]

is a c910 good

cuz the nm790 is kinda expensive in my market

[fringe prairie]

just get the nq790

it's good and one of the cheapest

[muted quarry]

@rigid fjord does it look fine now?

[round scaffold]

ok

cuz i was just looking throuhg the speeds in the spreadsheet

[random gyro]

i have the ryzen 5 7600X3D

[grizzled frost]

ryzen 7 7600x3d*

[latent gull]

…no?

[sinful cobalt]

its r5

[stark kiln]

Gn y'all

[random gyro]

thats what i have

[random gyro]

no i have the ryzen 5

[carmine yew]

The 7600 is a R5, not R7. You're good.

[high elm]

🙀

[wind vine]

Hey there anyone good with ps4s? Need help with a problem with my disk drive

[gentle venture]

Ghost of yotei is so beautiful

[vital gyro]

I like how the domain join option says "Even better, use an online account" as if Microsoft knows that basically everyone uses that option to bypass the online account requirement on Pro/LTSC.

[zenith coyote]

is tihs a good build i already got the other parts only need this https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/YKsjdb

[stark kiln]

Thays why I wanna get it

[gentle venture]

Deserves that price tag

Its not as good as ghost of tsushima though, still a great game

[stark kiln]

I want both

But since I'm broke...

Eh whatever

Not sure if a 1660S can run it regardless (i don't have it but it's probably the GPU I'll get)

[gentle venture]

Playstation plus

[stark kiln]

No PlayStation but the third

I got this since 2022 though

[stark kiln]

I guess this will how it look like after my PC (probably) and monitor

[craggy rivet]

That pc doesn't run w11

[stark kiln]

Says it does

[gentle venture]

Why ai?

[stark kiln]

• it did the middle placement cause that's how my current laptop uses it

[stark kiln]

Quick to do it + just easier to visualize

[craggy rivet]

It doesn't, you'd have to bypass the tpm requirement

[stark kiln]

Seller says it got windows 11. Not sure what the hell they're doing there (or just lying lol) but whatever

I'm ok if it's the 10th windows

[gentle venture]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

Yeah nah twin dont buy that

[stark kiln]

Well I can do FBM used (at least convince my family to do it) so if that works than I'll sure as hell do used

Like I can do a PC with a770 and 3600 if I do FBM used

[next zenith]

hmmmm yes I see

[true drift]

do you guys think windows 11 25h2 is better than 24h2?

[gentle venture]

Atp just spray paint it

Whos paying 5090 price for a brown 5080 bro 😭

[next zenith]

it's NZD

[craggy rivet]

If i have the money i would lol

[stark kiln]

Same as the 5090

[gentle venture]

Ohh

[next zenith]

Before sales tax it would be US$1620

[craggy rivet]

Yeah, but saying that machine runs w11 is dishonest at best.

[stark kiln]

Maybe they bypassed the TPM

Reviews don't have much photos

Of the windows

[craggy rivet]

Anyway, why don't you look for AM4, even a 2600 will be better

With AM4 you can upgrade up to a 5800x3d

[stark kiln]

None on Amazon sadly

[craggy rivet]

Prebuilt only?

[stark kiln]

The used PC I wanna do has am4

[vital gyro]

bruh.
ofc my Dell Vostro 260S's PSU died right as I was about to turn it into an HTPC. It wasn't completely dead, but it was rattling, overheating and it smelled bad the second I started using the Blu-Ray drive.

[stark kiln]

My family prefers it

But I want to do used

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qZyjTM

[vital gyro]

Luckily it's just a TFX PSU with a standard pinout, but still.

[craggy rivet]

Ovenbox lol

[stark kiln]

AC unit into it

[craggy rivet]

It's meh, should be ok for like a ryzen 5

[stark kiln]

Everything else good?

[vital gyro]

The problem is the fact that a Cooler Master Elite 301 or a Montech X5 isn't even $20 more and has much better airflow.

[stark kiln]

Thanks

[next zenith]

If the price is black blud's prolly already bought it

So it's accounted forOr that's the used item idk

[fringe prairie]

i'd try and find a used 3060ti

[stark kiln]

Thanks

[stark kiln]

Used

[fringe prairie]

or 2080 super

[craggy rivet]

I think the nvme has a low TBW

@stark kiln what games do you want to play

[stark kiln]

A lot

Thankfully the Amazon pc has 3tb HDD so it can store them

[craggy rivet]

Unless u already have msfs, get the 2024

[stark kiln]

No I'll family share w my friend

[craggy rivet]

Also, doesn't the xbox gamepass include fs24

[stark kiln]

I hate game passes

I don't like monthly payments

[stark kiln]

He has Raven Field FS 2020 and some other cool games

[craggy rivet]

If you're into simulators, get more RAM and VRAM, even if the card is slightly worse

[stark kiln]

It got 32GB RAM on Amazon pc and 16GB on the a770

So I'm halfway good regardless of what PC I get lol

[craggy rivet]

16 for CSL isn't enough lol, but that's fine you can save up for more later

[stark kiln]

Yh

[craggy rivet]

Thr 6700 will struggle for the heavier titles there

[stark kiln]

Ale thanks. It's 12 pm so gn

[vital blade]

Guys let’s say that I wanted to upgrade my CPU in the distant future, would a b450 msi gaming plus max support any AM4 CPU?

[grizzled frost]

if it has an am4 socket, it supports any am4 chip

assuming you use an up to date bios

[zenith coyote]

is tihs a good aio? https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/dLV2FT/id-cooling-fx360-inf-58-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-fx360-inf

[craggy rivet]

That's not necessarily true

[grizzled frost]

i’m not including the weird edge cases with vendor locked chips

[vital blade]

Oh I forgot to mention that my cpu cooler has up to 265w tdp idk how accurate that is tho

[craggy rivet]

No, i'm talking about early AM4 boards

There's are still some A320 boards floating around lol

[vital blade]

Oh wait so I know that back then, my motherboard didn’t support PCIE 4 nvme ssds, but would a bios update make it support pcie 4?

Or would I have to use a board like the b550 or newer?

[craggy rivet]

You have to use a b550

[grizzled frost]

you can still use ryzen 5000 on A320 boards

just needs an up to date bios

[grizzled frost]

bios update won’t change any of the IO

[summer crow]

watery

[random gyro]

someones got money

[summer crow]

All you need is a job at McDonald's + good spending habits and you can have money too

[random gyro]

i do have a job at mcdonalds actually lmao

[summer crow]

Then you good

[random gyro]

ye, i manage (manager)

[summer crow]

I just pulled apart a thermal grizzly kryonaught system when that paste was recommended. Hard as a rock

[empty quartz]

Screw this

[empty quartz]

Im not paying my taxes next year (/j)

[empty quartz]

When was it applied?

[summer crow]

2 years ago I think

Maybe a little more, I forgot about this computer haven't used it much

[empty quartz]

That cpu must’ve been running really hot

[summer crow]

It was watercooled and only a 5900x

[empty quartz]

Weird

[summer crow]

Max around 65C I think

[empty quartz]

Wack

[summer crow]

I did read that thermal grizzly was no good after a while more for low temp below the negatives

[empty quartz]

I personally use arctic mx4, or corsair xtm-50

[summer crow]

I use mx6 yeah or nh or xtm

They all seem really good and last years

[empty quartz]

I use xtm50 in my laptops, and it works decently

[summer crow]

I'll be using mx6 I guess ill check it in a few years too

I pulled apart a 6 year old mx4 system and it was still goo

[broken palm]

https://www.buildcores.com/builds/2zXIRFFYq?share=true

current build.. what else to upgrade

[random gyro]

welcome back

[summer crow]

I am excited to see what the new amd processors will be like

According to the rumors I hope more cores

[random gyro]

i have a ryzen 5

[summer crow]

Nothing wrong with that imo

[random gyro]

ye, 7600X3D

[broken palm]

anyone know about the lian li cg237 case? it seems really unknown

my current case is ugly af, and I wanna change it out

[warm linden]

[pale flint]

tell him if you bring it to less than 120 fps then you get that pc for 200

[warm linden]

Yes

[random gyro]

gtx 1080 how old is that card

nah wtf

[warm linden]

Like 2017 I think

You can get them used on eBay for ~100 usd

[zealous plover]

For a ryzen 5 5600 should I get the 16 or 8gig rx 9060 xt

[latent pasture]

you should get the 16 regardless of the cpu

[sinful cobalt]

or… just get it to DNF by launching any UE5 game

[abstract wigeon]

i wonder why zip tie tech went for patreon and not floatplane seeing as they are both ex ltt

[ocean axle]

120+
That thing couldn't when new, let alone now

[peak swan]

Bruh, why are Windows paths defined with a back slash
Way less convenient compared to a forward slash, especially when typing a path on mobile

[warm linden]

Maybe 720p lol

[swift kestrel]

welp next week is the week microsoft kills windows 10

STILL NOT UPGRADING

[formal sonnet]

You switching to Linux, MacOS, or some other OS?

[swift kestrel]

no im staying on 10

i cant afford to lose half my laptop battery life and performance

[formal sonnet]

Why... would you lose 50% battery life / performance?

We've upgraded many a laptop at work and not seen this experience at all...

[abstract wigeon]

any good (gaming) mouse recommendations? i like it heavier, wired prefered or 2.4g wireless if its cheap

[limpid dune]

it's MacOS/iOS 26 that eats battery, not W11. W11 is just spyware and broken

[swift kestrel]

i dont know but i tried windows 11 and my fps was stuttering and my battery life went from 6hr to 3hr

i have an acer nitro 5 with an i7 9th gen

[abstract wigeon]

is the g502 still the meta

[frosty oriole]

I'm liking Linux on my laptop so far.

[pallid moth]

hey could someone just quickly explain why if i look for a 9070 for example theres multiple ones with different names when the chip is the same?

[formal sonnet]

Different brands, different overclocks, different coolers, etc. Share an example of what you're seeing when you search. Screenshot, or just linking to the 9070 graphics cards you find in their online stores is fine.

[pallid moth]

im trying to build my first own pc and im seeing this on pc partpicker

[formal sonnet]

Many of those are different SKUs that use the same chipset. They may have different cooling solutions (3x fans but a longer card, or 2x fans but a thicker card) or different preset Overclock settings.

[pallid moth]

so in simple words
its the same chip used but in a different way?

bulky or thin and long

[formal sonnet]

Yup. You'll notice the core clock and boost clocks are different on some models too.

[pallid moth]

im not confident in that overclocking stuff so should i just get one with an average base clock?

[formal sonnet]

Probably. But maybe someone else more familiar with AMD cards will suggest otherwise. I haven't looked at AMD's offerings in years, mostly because I need Nvidia CUDA for encoding porpoises.

[pallid moth]

building pcs is so stressful
its like choosing from so many options u arent even sure are good or not and then theres the building too
and ON TOP OF THAT the fear of buying something expensive and it not even being good in the end 🥲

[thorn escarp]

aaaa im going crazy

my iem's mic just stopped functioning MID discord call

and now nothing i try is making it work

[pale flint]

https://tenor.com/view/trombone-pusheen-musician-instrument-gif-11434220432919976776

[fleet hearth]

This ps3 slim will be a miracle.

Its a crazy it still works.

Had to get it serviced cause i dont have anything to remove this much gunk

I normally would clean it myself but this is beyond my capabilities rn

[limpid dune]

for a second I thought you were planning a PC and I was like "hmm, good GPU... oh, a second GPU... a third GPU? wtf kind of PC... oh"

[vocal surge]

does the nzxt h7 flow rgb contain rear fan?Because in the official nzxt video they had the fan pre installed.But in the website it says the nzxt h7 flow rgb does not contain any rear fan.

[stray portal]

Can someone recommend me a good 2 fan 9070? I can only find this sapphire one and it's red doesn't fit my pc

[pale flint]

i dont think there is any except this

tried a quick search no luck

[stray portal]

😔

[pale flint]

maybe someone more nerdy can help

[stray portal]

a 3 fan gpu won't fit due to my fans

I'm looking for a 4k gpu

[pale flint]

9070xt?

no?

[stray portal]

all are 3 fans also

[pale flint]

also what colour do you want

[pale flint]

yeah

[stray portal]

black

[pale flint]

paint it? 😭

[stray portal]

💔

I'm NOT the painter

[pale flint]

nvidia?

[stray portal]

haven't thought about that

What gpu tho I need 16gb vram

[pale flint]

also does amd gpu's have rt?

[pale flint]

you will find many

btw how do i check what cl is my current ram?

the one i bought is 22

literally doing nothing

[sour storm]

Can someone identify this card?

Friend gave it to me since apearently he chamged his cpu and kept the old card

[high elm]

20 series for sure

[sour storm]

I mean i know that, i found it, hp rtx 2080

Was wondering if i should keep it or if i should try to sell it

[high elm]

if you dont need it just sell it

[sour storm]

wondering if it'd make sense to put it in my current z400 workstation

It could apearently work?

[solar moat]

tcl dose not mater

[solar moat]

send image of hwinfo64

[solar moat]

ddr4 3200 jedec ?

[empty quartz]

Mrrp

[pale flint]

i think this helps?

[solar moat]

🤦 why do uses go i think i want this info and cut out all the info i realy wanted

[sour storm]

What the fuck is my pc.... hp z400 but with a xeon 5560 processor

[pale flint]

my i i had this ss in my clipboard let me open hwinfo rq

here

[solar moat]

RIP that crazy overpriced

[pale flint]

its free dw

[solar moat]

ok

[pale flint]

i think they are both the same

[solar moat]

its shoud be fine there both 3200 jedec

[pale flint]

i was trying to buy a bit cheaper one yesterday but it didnt let me because the ram was in another category

[high elm]

dang 3200 CL22 some shit E die or smt

[pale flint]

what

[solar moat]

dont lissin to them get jedec ram

[granite swallow]

dang what lenovo laptop is this?

[solar moat]

99% of laptop will not let you run xmp

or any ram oc

[pale flint]

yeah i am not doing that, cuz it doesnt support that anyways

[solar moat]

that ram shoud be fine with that laptop sadly it dose not list the stick config

[pale flint]

ah idk the model lmao

where do i check it

[placid stratus]

Buy lg g5 or samsung s95f

[pale flint]

hmmm

[granite swallow]

most of the time you can look around your laptop for a serial number and check lenovo's warranty lookup website

[solar moat]

x16 config is ASS

[pale flint]

whats that

[solar moat]

means each chip dose 16 bits

[pale flint]

talking about the one i bought or the one i have?

[solar moat]

where there x8/x4 config x8 is most commoen unless ram is for server/not ass

[solar moat]

the one your bought

you can check the config of ram you got in the full SPD info

[solar moat]

reson x16 is ass is due to 50% of banks

[turbid shore]

is a DDR5 4800 kit fine or should I opt for 5600

[solar moat]

ass

[turbid shore]

Its a core ultra 5 135u

[solar moat]

get 5600 jedec

and dont get 8GB/12GB sticks

[turbid shore]

I was thinking 2x64gb

[solar moat]

and run duel channel

[turbid shore]

But sure, thanks ?

[turbid shore]

128gb ram should be enough imo

[solar moat]

idk if it will be fine maybe need bios update for that

[granite swallow]

I forgot DDR5 has the weird 24GB kits

[solar moat]

there shit

[pale flint]

i think its gonna be fine, will check once its arrives

[turbid shore]

Sure, 96gb then

That should work if 128gb doesn't

[solar moat]

all 8/12GB sticks of ddr5 are x16

[pale flint]

so whats the type here?

[solar moat]

send the full SPD

[pale flint]

oh wait thats ddr4

[solar moat]

not that the settings it running

[pale flint]

i sent full ss above

does it extend further?

[solar moat]

that basic summary not full SPD of ram

[pale flint]

oh where do i get that in hwinfo

[pale flint]

ah ok

[ebon marlin]

Gigabyte now has an "X3D" motherboard

[solar moat]

and its just nomral motherboard

[solar moat]

there was a board i seen a bit ago with soldered mobile 7950x3d in a matx board

[ebon marlin]

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X870E-AORUS-MASTER-X3D-ICE

[ebon marlin]

Yeah these are fairly common

[solar moat]

but it was not some random no name china board

it was a nomral name brand board

[ebon marlin]

These X3D boards's only feature is that they have a turbo mode for x3d cpus

[ebon marlin]

Minisforum?

[solar moat]

aka a setting that makes slower

[ebon marlin]

Minisforum has mobile chips in desktop boards

[storm jasper]

What's better? The DEEPCOOL LE360 or the Thermalright Aqua Elite 360 V3

[solar moat]

and its on most am5 board but its shit and shoud be remove since so many times it makes poroblems form users not relinseing it tanks perfomicne

[ebon marlin]

This one markets up to 25% increased performance

[solar moat]

you mean a 40% speed decress

[ebon marlin]

First gen thing on Gigabyte's mobo now

[solar moat]

is commen with it enable

[ebon marlin]

Pretty sure this is something completely different

[solar moat]

well disabling 50% of cores/no SMT dose not make perofmince better in many case

[solar moat]

x3d game mode/tubo?

[ebon marlin]

Turbo mode 2,0

[solar moat]

it disabled 50% of cores/smt

[pale flint]

@solar moat

[ebon marlin]

Guessing it's for the Ryzen 9's then

That's nice that they include it in bios then

[solar moat]

welp many users are asking why there cpu is slower then it shoud be and then i ask for hwinfo64 image and they disabled 50% of cpu and did not have any idea why

[ebon marlin]

To get the best performance out of the Ryzen 9 x3d's you have to disable half the cpu

[solar moat]

only if gaming

[ebon marlin]

Well, it is marketed as a gaming feature

[solar moat]

i do reocmend that but sadly users dont read past x3d game mode and its way slower in anything allcore

and even in prue gaming workloads its offen slower since it disables smt

[ebon marlin]

Ofc it'll be slower in allcore when you go from 16c to 8c isn't that obvious

[solar moat]

many users have no idea it dose that untill its why is my cpu slow

and has to ask tech suprot

[rustic spire]

Hey does this SSD work with this motherboard? https://www.amazon.com.au/TEAMGROUP-InnoGrit-Ultra-Thin-Graphene-TM8FFE002T0C129/dp/B0CWQP2VGH?th=1

[ebon marlin]

Yes

[solar moat]

it works

[stray portal]

https://tenor.com/view/catzilla-smack-cat-crypto-solana-building-falling-gif-5621074873575263491

[solar moat]

😻

[vagrant veldt]

can someone help me with unidentifed ethernet

i tried everything

[plush wren]

violence

https://tenor.com/view/violence-cat-attacking-gif-24912080

[cosmic lance]

@ebon marlin

[ebon marlin]

@ebon marlin

[rigid fjord]

not a true full 16c though

[rigid fjord]

this may be tunable for better timings tbh

[pale flint]

oh

[pale flint]

well i am currently not messing around with anything

i will wait for the new one

[rigid fjord]

guide in #overclocking is worth a read if you want to learn to tune it some

[pale flint]

sure, i will get the 2nd one and look into it after

[signal salmon]

What is this noise?

When i turn it off and on again it goes away

[rigid fjord]

can you take a close up image of the cpu cooler

[signal salmon]

I’m not home rn, the video was from yesterday

[orchid trellis]

Am i able to very briefly boot into bios without a cpu cooler just so i can see if i get video?

[thin plover]

yes

[orchid trellis]

Would i be able to squeeze through ram training if its a new system?

[normal maple]

Which 4tb sad should I get?
https://a.co/d/9BAACHm
https://a.co/d/7D6EwUY or are there others?

[orchid trellis]

What will you use it for? Also, im biased against Samsung rn so i would say WD

[ebon marlin]

General rule of thumb avoid all Samsung products

[zealous plover]

This https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/LvcmwY or this https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/PYxR74

[grizzled frost]

the first one, but get ddr5 6000 cl30, and don't forget a cpu cooler

[zealous plover]

The cpu only supports ddr5-5200 I belive

[grizzled frost]

the cpu supports ddr5 6000

the official listed support is 5200

cpu listed ram support is weird

[zealous plover]

oh okay

[unreal geode]

iroh will 9070 xt work a 5600x or will i need a better cpu

[zealous plover]

Would the stock cooler be fine or would it throttle?

[grizzled frost]

it'll work just fine

[grizzled frost]

i would get a cheap dual tower cooler

[zealous plover]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/jvjv6h/thermalright-assassin-x-refined-se-argb-cpu-cooler-ax120r-se-argb-d6-cad

Is this fine?

[grizzled frost]

yes

[unreal geode]

would there be a big difference if i upgraded to the x3d cpu

[grizzled frost]

yes

[left trellis]

thoughts? https://www.ebay.com/itm/197732791631?

[ebon marlin]

I'd recommend avoiding used ssd's

[abstract wigeon]

any better alternative at this price?

[ebon marlin]

Specifically an obese mouse?

[abstract wigeon]

no, id rather something which just works nice and has a nice wieght to it. im not that keen on this one but at £30 i dont see anything better

dont care for looks or anything, just needs to be comfortable

[ebon marlin]

Guess that's ur best choice then

[cosmic lance]

samsung? the ssd company?

[cosmic lance]

ts ugly

[abstract wigeon]

im aware

i dont really care what it looks like i just care that it works well enough

and is comfortable i guess

[ebon marlin]

Everything by Samsung

[left trellis]

any under 70 usd ssd recs

[left trellis]

samsung? the refigerator company?

[distant frigate]

Sunsetting LTE pretty early

[sonic siren]

🥱

[ebon marlin]

that's in 10 years

LTE came out in 2009

17 years ago

https://tenor.com/view/live-rei-reaction-nge-evangelion-monkey-neon-genesis-evangelion-gif-10730397992747366632

[pale flint]

sumsung? sam?

[dawn tundra]

https://search.app/x2dc2

[left trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/evangelion-eva-tuesday-neon-genesis-gif-22825472

[ebon marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-akiyama-shun-yakuza4-yakuza-live-akiyama-reaction-gif-7387900517576355835

[serene pumice]

I'lk wait for the crack in couple of months.

[pale flint]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-rot-italian-brainrot-hayatarou-hayatarou-flamingo-flamingo-gif-12919403838980480426

[craggy cove]

til most h410 and b460 mobos arent compatible with 11th gen

fuck intel

[steel umbra]

Is this tc-1

[craggy cove]

one day it was

[steel umbra]

I see rite

[craggy cove]

i wonder if this mobo cpu and cooler survived being packaged in 2 plastic bags

[brave brook]

you found out about it now ? It was a huge topic back in the day

[craggy cove]

they didnt include io shield or backplate

fuck my chud life

[craggy cove]

i was too busy mocking the 11700k

[brave brook]

the only thing which deserves mocking from 11th gen is ASUS B560-I rear I/O

(yes, that is 5x USB 2.0)

on an ITX board none the less

[hidden lance]

thats crazy

[brave brook]

B460-I in comparison

[hidden lance]

it probably costed like 500$ too

[brave brook]

160-180 euros, but still

[left trellis]

Wsg bad bitches

$400 3080 ti or $475 4070 ti

[brave brook]

RIP Arduino https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/07/qualcomm-acquires-italian-hardware-company-arduino-in-robotics-play-.html

[craggy cove]

my h370 board had more

[brave brook]

ok, this first quarduino (/s) product doesn't look bad https://www.electronicdesign.com/technologies/embedded/article/55321526/electronic-design-qualcomms-acquires-arduino-arduino-uno-q-runs-ai-llm-code-from-inexperienced-programmer-prompts-performs-signal-processing-and-runs-linux-and-zephyr-os

[sudden flame]

My Java server is working

[brave brook]

With 2GB of RAM and 16GB of eMMC storage, the Uno Q costs $44, while a 4GB of RAM and 32GB of storage version costs $59.

[dawn tundra]

nice

seems like a decent price

[brave brook]

€39/€53 respectively

Jeff already has a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfKX616-nsE

[steel umbra]

i wonder why

[dawn tundra]

why does he look like a high school shop teacher, LOL

in that thumbnail

[brave brook]

🤷‍♂️

[tulip sparrow]

Now will Qualcomm finally compete with Rasberry Pi?

[cold skiff]

No

[robust trail]

does your 5080 not do what you need it to?

I would hesitate to upgrade a 5080 to a 5090 unless you're in desperate need of compute performance.

If you are a gamer I would not

[placid stratus]

Is the lg g5 65 inch better than the samsung s95 f

[cold skiff]

If you’re 4k gamer then do it

[robust trail]

I wouldn't bother even for 4k

[cold skiff]

The performance uplift is noticeable for 4k

[languid bough]

worth it to upgrade from 5080 astral to 5090 astral or wait for supers ?

currently running

Z890-E
96GB ROYALZ RAM
TRYX AIO
ULTRA 9 285K
LIAN LI FANS
HYTE TOUCH

I ONLY REALLY WORK ON IT NOT MUCH GAMING BUT WHEN DO FEEL LIKE SHOULD STILL BE GETTING MORE FPS DUE TO BEING VERY EXPENSIVE PC

NOT SURE IF IS SOMETHING WRONG

ALSO WOULD LIKE START MAKING CONTENT POTENTIALLY.

SCREENS I USE CORSAIR FLEX MAIN 4K OLED, 2 ULTRA GEAR 32'S VERTICAL ON SIDES (NOT OLED OR 4K)

[robust trail]

good god

[placid stratus]

Me with a 4060 ti 8g

[robust trail]

No, probably not. If you are hitting 4K120+ with a 5080 you are already in the ultrafast zone

[languid bough]

would it make things more snappy ? or when not gaming im def getting as fast as can be visible with my monitors think ?

[robust trail]

Snappy? No, the GPU doesn't provide snappy perf for an OS

[peak swan]

Guys, how do i boot a UEFI operating system on bios? I know i need like a thingy to put on a usb drive that you boot from in bios, then select the UEFI boot drive but what exact software would i actually use for that

[robust trail]

The only time you'll get any performance boost is during video decode and encode

[languid bough]

gotcha & my z890-e has no permarnce difference from the hero board correct ? they told me couldnt use bc didnt havbe enough headers to run all my lian li fans

[robust trail]

Likely not. The only time you will see board to board perf differences is in board manufacturer overclocks out of the box and maybe memory... but even then if you are running your XMP profile at max perf there will be no difference

[craggy cove]

seller didnt include these

nor the backplate but i had a backplate

gg

"it was a gift included with the cpu and mobo, i thought u alr had"

[versed pecan]

What are the actual differences between WD Red Plus vs Pro? Assuming same RPM

[craggy cove]

genius

[random gyro]

And what about B550M from the ASUS TUF Gaming B550M Plus-Wifi II motherboard?

[brave brook]

i meant that was same manufacturer, same form size, same model type - just one generations apart, huge downgrade

[random gyro]

Is the mb that i am using right now with a ryzen 7 5800x, x2 nvme's and 64gb ram at 3200 and a rtx 2080 ti

[rigid fjord]

ideal for that cpu tbh, considering the overkill vrm's it has

[random gyro]

yeah

Having this options right now on ryzen master

well, the part that says 1000w its bugged, on bios is set to lower values

[robust trail]

Master will set things to the maximum chooch 😄

A lot of those maximums aren't bugged it is just ryzen master setting things to go as high as they can. Sort of "big numbers mean big fast" although that CPU would explode into a billion shards at anything over 350w

[rigid fjord]

do not use ryzen master at all for anything

[random gyro]

On BIOS set Max thermal limit platform at 80ºC

[robust trail]

Let it manage itself

turn on PBO and set your memory to rated MTs, then let the CPU deal with itself

unless you are going to dive into fine tuning

80C is low for a modern CPU

[random gyro]

3200MT/s at docp with 1.40v (1.35v has issues booting due to IMC stressed, 1.40v is pretty safe for daily usage)

[robust trail]

95 should be max, and it shouldn't hit that often/ever

[random gyro]

Well, I have a "sh1tty" liquid cooler that i need to change asap

[robust trail]

right? 95? I am old and haven't dealt with any overclocking in a long time

[random gyro]

It's the corsair h100x rgb elite with af120 slim fans, 240mm

[cold skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/april-fools-joke-dog-its-fine-this-is-not-gif-1750056094467610487

[rigid fjord]

1.35v isn't imc stressed dude, sounds more like the xmp profile has issues or you're not got it tuned well

[cold skiff]

Ryzen master lol

[random gyro]

Just had some mixed RAM memory 7 months ago

Made a huge disaster and had to change asap

[rigid fjord]

if it's corsair vengeances you're using, it's no wonder why it may have issues

[random gyro]

Corsair ram had for 1 year and failed so bad...

That i dont believe them anymore

[rigid fjord]

crucial ballistix's or as mark once called them, ball sticks

[random gyro]

BSOD's, BIOS Recovery mode + random freeze (unstable as hell)

[robust trail]

the ol stickyballs

[random gyro]

Even knowing there was a 2666Mt/s 32gb kit that i used last year with an i7-7700

[robust trail]

I still have some lol

[random gyro]

i7-7700 supports max 2400 but bought them just in case I buy a cpu with more mt/s

[robust trail]

oh no I don't I finally gave them all away

[random gyro]

Now I have: Netac Technology 64GB (16x4) DDR4 3200MT/s CL16

[rigid fjord]

rog strix equivalent of the tuf b550 gaming plus @random gyro

[rigid fjord]

i still like how easy they are to OC over xmp profile

[craggy cove]

this stuff never goes easy does it

[random gyro]

Depending on the stuff u do

[craggy cove]

stuff i do is buying used stuff

[random gyro]

Well, depending on the state that left the other owner

[robust trail]

I ran some itx pc the other day and it was fun.

[craggy cove]

i thought this psu was poo at first, the fan didnt spin and there was no post

[robust trail]

It made me happy and then I turned it off.

[craggy cove]

turns out igpus just never work out of the box for me

[random gyro]

Some psu's has smart fan technology

[cold skiff]

Makes no difference

[craggy cove]

yeah i thought so and tried plugging in a gpu

[random gyro]

Mine for example is the gigabyte UD750GM, 80 plus gold and when there isn't too much load fan is off

[cold skiff]

Unless you’re pumping masses through a psu

[hidden lance]

marketing

[random gyro]

But for example when it's 50/60% load fan starts spinning

[random gyro]

Yep

[robust trail]

Fan spin > no fan spin

[cosmic lance]

helll nah yo tweakin

[craggy cove]

honestly idle/browser usage no fan spin is nice

sold my stupid blower gpu because it wouldnt go lower than 30% and it sounded horrible either way

[robust trail]

If you can hear the fans yeah lol

I mean for the PSU.

[random gyro]

Blower type fan is the worst ngl

They're more louder

[craggy cove]

never falling for the blower gpu scam for a third time

[hidden lance]

different use case

[craggy cove]

theres a reason this 3070 was 190€ and others were 250€

[robust trail]

Blowers good for stacked cards but they’re inefficient otherwise

[hidden lance]

good for servers

[left dove]

But are you stacked?

[cosmic lance]

https://tenor.com/view/rizz-hoop-peter-griffin-green-fn-gif-16271132247808270949

[robust trail]

Not really, you want passive for servers. Blowers in servers are detrimental to airflow

[robust trail]

If I were I’d be busy looking at my stacks

[left dove]

But you've got stacks of gpus

[robust trail]

This, yes. lol

I thought you were talking about lady bits

🤣

[left dove]

What???

[craggy cove]

this stupid h410 handles mismatched ram much better than my msi b360

[left dove]

Oh I get it

[craggy cove]

no exorcisms needed, just worked 1st boot

[hidden lance]

depends on the server probably

[left dove]

atharv you're arguing this with a pro

[odd marsh]

I am just better

[robust trail]

It does. If your server CPUs are actively cooled it won't matter. If everything is cold > hot passive it will clog up and cause positive pressure in the server.

can you do it? Sure, but your servers will be louder, hotter and the fans will do far more work than they should

[hidden lance]

nah just gave my naive opinion

[brave brook]

china motherboard makers are digging out every single ES CPU ever manufactured. I present you guys a i5-8256U NAS board 😄

[left dove]

ah, don't mind me I literally just woke up

[robust trail]

love it

[left dove]

I like the cheeky lil m.2 cooler doubling as a VRM block tied into the cpu heatsink

[brave brook]

too bad one can't buy it without RAM https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009929273539.html

[hidden lance]

ah i see that makes sense

[brave brook]

i think that's just the copper block over the CPU

[left dove]

my statement still apllies though

[brave brook]

2x internal USB connector too 😄

[languid bough]

?

[brave brook]

i mean USB-A

[left dove]

the kid's like 14, don't take his advice lol

(wait for supers tho)

[robust trail]

the passive cards are the bee's knees. The fans will usually stay about the same speed because even 50c air moving through the passive cards will cool them down a crapload

[languid bough]

lol thanks Peyton

[left dove]

o7

[languid bough]

What’s that mean ?

[left dove]

it's a little ascii salute

[robust trail]

o7

[languid bough]

ASCII ?

[left dove]

using text symbols as images?

[languid bough]

Okay idk lol

[left dove]

:3 :D :o :p etc

the little o is the head and the 7 is the arm saluting

tis been a thing since.. idk, arpanet probably?

at least bbs era

[robust trail]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-heavy-break-fall-epic-gif-15238037

apparently what is shipping from HQ

[left dove]

rip suspension

[robust trail]

"Mark, is it possible to deliver a pallet to your house?"

[odd marsh]

it'll be fineeeee

[robust trail]

a pallet of what

[left dove]

your deformed leaf springs say otherwise lmao

[odd marsh]

pallets

you are getting a pallet of pallets

[robust trail]

nice

[left dove]

I swear to shit if you just got sent one of those DGX machines-

[odd marsh]

or maybe a pallet of Jensens old jackets?

[robust trail]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-downey-jr-tony-stark-gif-26471287

[left dove]

GOD FUCKING-

[odd marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/congrats-nice-happy-for-you-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-1927193140186872022

[robust trail]

The DGX Spark?

[left dove]

no the rack one

[robust trail]

Oh god no

[hidden lance]

thats cool how much wattage are these server cards consuming😭

[left dove]

wtf would nvidia ship on a pallet then..

[robust trail]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/products/workstations/dgx-station/

[left dove]

Oh

Can I have a non-op one so I can mount it on the wall

[robust trail]

I think but maybe not

[left dove]

lemme shadowbox them fat dies

[robust trail]

probably just my servers from our lab

[odd marsh]

I need a 700mm^2 die so badly it's unreal

[left dove]

"hey mark can we send all your shit from the office to your home on a pallet?"

"we're tired of it clogging up the supply closet"

[robust trail]

lol

my cube is a storage facility

[left dove]

Maybe they're just sending you your cube

[plain cypress]

What about a bunch of 200mm^2 dies glued together

[odd marsh]

I could be persuaded

All I've got is some Maxwell titan Die

or Pascal, i can't remember

[craggy cove]

hoped to get 550€ for my pc, listed it for 650€ and got offered 600€

so ofc im gonna negotiate for 620€

totally not pushing my luck here

offered 610€ les go

[autumn frigate]

Hi I have trouble to build new computer in my hand now I have ryzen 3900 non x and 12400f which should I choice

Looking for raw power and no so powerful because I don't have high budget

[left trellis]

12400f

[craggy cove]

sold nice, no fucking around with shipping or nothing

ill just sell 1 more pc with the parts i bought and im done

(fr this time)

[tacit star]

Why does 5700X say it supports up to 3200 MT/s memory?

[azure topaz]

because it does

what answer did you want from that

[tacit star]

But what if I buy 3600? Won't it run at that speed?

If I use the XMP

[azure topaz]

if you buy 3600 theres a very small chance that it wont run

[tacit star]

Does 3200 need XMP from the BIOS?

[azure topaz]

yes, youll be fine buying a 3600 kit though

[tacit star]

So 3200 will run at 100% but 3600 at 99.(9)%?

[tidal grove]

Cpu: Ryzen 7 7700
Ram: Corsair 32Gb ddr5 6000mhz
SSD: m.2 1tb HP something (3500 and 3000 read/write speed maybe I forgot)
PSU: 650W gold gigabyte

I've been using this PC for over a year with no gpu and finally started saving for one.Can this pull over 100fps @1080p with ultra settings in games like Spiderman 2,Last of us, Cyberpunk,RDR2 etc AAA games ?

[azure topaz]

basically

performance difference is minimal, but bigger than the chances of it not working

[tidal grove]

Or what should I expect my pc fps to be in these heavy games at 1080p ultra ?

[tacit star]

Well if they cost the same then I guess I will go for 3600

[tidal grove]

100hz monitor btw

[tacit star]

3600 > 3200/14 I believe

[azure topaz]

yeah can just run at 3200 if needed

lots of 3600 kits will have 3200 xmps

[tacit star]

Only 3200 XMP? Or two XMPs (3600 and 3200)

[azure topaz]

two xmps

like i have a performance kit of 3400 stuff but same stuff has a 3000mhz profile

[tacit star]

3600/16 is the sweet spot if all 3200/16, 3200/14, 3600/18 and 3600/16 cost the same

[azure topaz]

yes

[solar moat]

tcl dose not matter

[tacit star]

Well just get the lower if they cost the same

[azure topaz]

i mean tcl is an indication of ic if you know what youre doing

[tacit star]

If it won't help, it won't harm anything anyway

[solar moat]

thats only for jedec not xmp

[solar moat]

lower is better for all timings but trefi

[tacit star]

JEDEC you mean plug and play?

[azure topaz]

its for xmp too lol

[tacit star]

Without touching the BIOS

[solar moat]

jedec is the ram spec

xmp is kind of bad overclock

[left dove]

..

[tacit star]

Is 4000/18 a good idea if they cost the same? But that's not in the QVL btw

[azure topaz]

no

[solar moat]

if you go over 3600 with xmp it shit

[azure topaz]

ryzen chips generally top out at 3600 for stuff that you expect to work on 5000 series

[tacit star]

Manual overclocking, got it

[azure topaz]

past that you have to set 1:1 manually, etc

[tacit star]

That's enough

[pale flint]

whaf

[azure topaz]

whaf

[robust forum]

I spent £2 on a mic today hoping it would sound terrible and it is one of the better sounding mics in my room now

[solar moat]

max in 1:1:1 with Vermeer is around 3800

[azure topaz]

something like that

[pale flint]

how so

[tacit star]

So 3600/16

[robust forum]

I have a main mic, a spare mic and a ton of webcam mics

[azure topaz]

sure

[tacit star]

It's almost done, I only to get the CPU and memory

[pale flint]

great

[robust forum]

This "new" mic was supposed to be a "funny mic"

[pale flint]

aha

[robust forum]

And it sounds. Good.

[pale flint]

just scream in it

[robust forum]

Words cannot describe my fustration

[tacit star]

Btw. 3600/16 two sticks or 3600/18 four?

[azure topaz]

two

[robust forum]

It literally won't mess itself up

[solar moat]

2dpc sucks

[tacit star]

Even if four are in the QVL

[pale flint]

oh

[azure topaz]

ii mean on ddr4 its fine but you could have issues

[tacit star]

Always two over four no matter what?

[robust forum]

I actually may use it over my NZXT Capsule

[azure topaz]

ddr5 yes. ddr4, doesnt really matter

[tacit star]

DDR4

[azure topaz]

DR buff on ddr4 is helpful but that buff doesnt eixst on ddr5

[solar moat]

fair Vermeer is one of the few cpus where 2dpc is better in some cases

[pale flint]

2 if you arw gonna upgrade in future?

[solar moat]

no

[azure topaz]

just 2

[pale flint]

why not 4

[tacit star]

I am confused between two and four

[azure topaz]

on a modern system youll be saying goodbye to a lot of your memory bandwidth or stability

[pale flint]

2+2=4

[azure topaz]

DDR4 it doesnt matter, ignore

[pale flint]

ddr4

[azure topaz]

buy the kit of two

[solar moat]

mixing/2dpc offen harder to clock but Vermeer cpu offen run into fclk limits before anything elss

[azure topaz]

yeah

[solar moat]

dont mix ram

[tacit star]

Four should work on the advertised speed if they are in the QVL? But two will work for sure

[solar moat]

dont

[pale flint]

same specs but different kits?

[azure topaz]

two will work

[solar moat]

yes mixing

[pale flint]

goof

[rigid fjord]

always 2 sticks

[azure topaz]

ensure theyre the same ic, same spec does not mean same ic

[tacit star]

I am talking about a 4pc kit. Not 2x2pc

[pale flint]

thats for sure

[azure topaz]

if theyre the same ic, only minor differences like PCB or whatever could affect you, not that deep

[azure topaz]

yeah, still, get the 2 dimm config

[solar moat]

still no good reson to get it

[azure topaz]

its a slower kit and has the same chances of working

[pale flint]

still 2

how much do you want?

[azure topaz]

qvl is basiccally "we're bout to drop this board so lets test the kits we got"

[tacit star]

32GB? Is that the question

[pale flint]

2x16

why would you buy 4x8?

[tacit star]

Why not is the other question

[solar moat]

and offen used as marketing for high end board even if oh you need a top 0.1% cpu+tunned voltages but they had the auto voltage tunned for there cpu+kit on the bios they used

[pale flint]

cuz its dumb

[hidden lance]

they don't even make 8gb ddr5 sticks anymore i think

[azure topaz]

not faster and limits options for upgrades

[solar moat]

all of them are shit

[azure topaz]

well this is ddr4, but they do

[solar moat]

due to all of them are x16

[west harbor]

just put a new cpu in my system, what should i click here?

[solar moat]

there where no 8Gb chips made for ddr5

[azure topaz]

press y

[west harbor]

jjtb wat u told me worked

[hidden lance]

yeah only crucial makes them i think and it doesn't even have a heat sink

[solar moat]

WHAT they made 8Gb ram chips

[ocean axle]

8GB sticks can exist without 8Gb chips

[solar moat]

or you meanig 8GB stick that are x16 config

[azure topaz]

i think hes just talking about the crucial pro 8gb shitters

not 8gbit ics

if there was 8gbit ics theyd theoretically have the best trfc and be meta for d5 benching but nah

[azure topaz]

cause it is to my knowledge that trfc scales up with ic density

[hidden lance]

i mean 8gb sticks idk about chips

[solar moat]

at least the ddr spec sayign that

[azure topaz]

yeah idk physical properties im not that nerdy

[solar moat]

but its down the chip in qestion

[azure topaz]

yeah

[tacit star]

DDR4-3600 CL16-19-19-39
32GB (2x16GB)

[azure topaz]

incredible

an xmp ddr4 kit

[tacit star]

Sadly it is neo (white) and not 16-16-16-36 but that's pettiness

[azure topaz]

16-16-16-36 is if youre overclocking

at least at 3600, cause thats bdie

out of your scope, the primary timings hardly affect performance

[tacit star]

Manual OCing? The XMP will be 16-19-19-39, even if they are advertised as 16-16-16-36?

[azure topaz]

no

just you buy those if your goal is to oc

as they will oc nicely

[azure topaz]

bdie is the type of chip that sits on there

bdie has good overclocking properties and you can generally pick the same qualities out of xmps to find bdie kits

[hidden lance]

how much difference does CAs latency even make

[azure topaz]

none

[solar moat]

like 14 to 26 is 1%

[ocean axle]

it depends

[west harbor]

pressed y now i'm here n even though the only drive in my system is the windows drive it won't boot

[ocean axle]

but that applies to the timings in general

[tacit star]

I don't want to overclock

[left trellis]

should I get the SK Hynix Platinum P41 or the Biwin Black Opal NV7400

[azure topaz]

i was just explainin

[solar moat]

did you have bit locker on?

[left trellis]

1tb

[tacit star]

Got you

[solar moat]

get jedec

[west harbor]

uhm not sure how to check that

[ocean axle]

windows 11?

[tacit star]

?!

[azure topaz]

XMP is an overclock

you dont want to manually oc 🫡 there you go

[solar moat]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sKXJ7P/team-t-create-classic-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl22-memory-ttccd432g3200hc22dc01 ram like this

[hidden lance]

basically not enough to be noticed by most people

[solar moat]

basic timings gain way more

[ornate inlet]

chat this is why i dont play rust

[solar moat]

like just setting trrds/trrdl/tfaw are way more inporantet

[azure topaz]

what fucking freak has his temps in Fahrenheit

[pale flint]

your pc is rusting

[azure topaz]

your computer isnt even too hot

[ornate inlet]

me god damning

[hidden lance]

I panicked and then i saw fahrenheit

[azure topaz]

your computer is at an ok temp

[ornate inlet]

80c

[azure topaz]

yes that is fine

[ornate inlet]

not good

[pale flint]

yes goof