tech-chat-1

[placid belfry]

Real

[ivory mountain]

yeah we can make our cpus 6 or 7 ghz boiii

[sinful cobalt]

Even X870s the best overclockers are the extreme from asus and godlike from MSI

u rly dont get much value off x870

Source: I have an x870

[high maple]

I have been messing around with overclocking for a hot minute. I remember overclocking my Rx560, rigging up a custom heatsink for it and pushing it.

[placid belfry]

Currently I heard the nova x870 is best look it up

[sinful cobalt]

overclocking entry level products when that money into a x870 could get you to the next tier

Elian has no idea what he’s talking lmao

[left dove]

^^^

[ivory mountain]

W ewaste

[sinful cobalt]

X870 nova is 2nd best for memory OC iirc behind the Taichi

[high maple]

I still use the card in a old server I use

[sinful cobalt]

then again its up against the godlike and extreme

[high maple]

wdym?

[ivory mountain]

W ewaste

[high maple]

I still dont see the issue

[cosmic idol]

Rx 560 in 2025 😔

[high maple]

I am still getting good use out of it. I did not kill it

[high maple]

ok, so, I was actually tweaking hard. I do not know what I was on, but I think I have come to my senses.
I could just use the old board for a damn server once I upgrade, or just build a seperate overclocking rig in the future

or I could just sell it

[left dove]

server project!!

[high maple]

All of my old computers have become servers, and have been living in my homelab

[left dove]

more

[high maple]

true

I do not know what I was on

[long goblet]

i want to try AI development. apparently pytorch has libraries that leverage ROCm, but my GPU can't handle it. (radeon 5500xt). Apparently, a 9060xt can. wonder what i can get for my used 5500xt.

how do i even go about selling it?

9060xt 16gb is around 400$ new :/

[long goblet]

best i managed stable was a 35% overclock on a core2 duo e4400 (2 ghz to 2.7 ghz)

Some people managed to take a 1.5 ghz c2d to 3 ghz...a 100% overclock.

I always wondered if my overclock made a noticeable difference... one day i turned it off, and it was night and day difference. It's hard to notice performance you gain. it's easy to notice performance you lose.

[sinful cobalt]

in the past you could get like 30% performance gain
now its like 10%

its better investing into a better cpu than board bro trust me

whatever elian said is basically propaganda

[left dove]

Oh god sitting like 2.5ft away from 50" is a little jarring

its so immersive oml

[viscid plover]

Is an 5500, 32gb ddr4 ,1tb ssd,rx 7600 and 750 watt a good deal ( mobo is gigabyte gaming b550)

[left dove]

for what price tho

[viscid plover]

Für 650

[left dove]

what currency

[viscid plover]

Euro

[long goblet]

pff, i don't even overclock now, lol.

[left dove]

yo same, I just set it at w/e the most stable is with 30min of tuning and leave it

[long goblet]

that one time with that core 2 duo is my only experience havign done so

[left dove]

ram specs, psu spec?

[long goblet]

i don't even use PBO or whatever it's called

[viscid plover]

3200 mhz for ram 4 8gb sticks, bequiet 80 plus bronze

[left dove]

i mean, i guess its ok

[long goblet]

i am serious tho, i have no idea where/how i'd sell my 5500xt 8gb, or what i'd get for it.]

[left dove]

ebay

or local

[long goblet]

do people buy from people with no history on ebay?

[left dove]

ye

[long goblet]

i mean, my account has like 4 trades..

[left dove]

how else do you think you get history

[long goblet]

pay for shilling?

[viscid plover]

From the store memory pc

[left dove]

it seems alright idk

[long goblet]

lol

[sinful cobalt]

yes if payment methods are safe and secure

[idle spear]

i mean yeah bc no mater what im going to get my money back on eay

[long goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/padme-anakin-smile-love-gif-17180376

not if they provided the item, right?

[idle spear]

i mean if it dosnt work then im pretty sure ebay will do someting

[long goblet]

i do remember a lot of horror stories of buyers scamming sellers

because ebay/paypal's TOS heavily favored buyers

[hexed tapir]

thats rx 5700 money

[idle spear]

wait why is that $50 gpu so much

[long goblet]

i have no idea what i'm supposed to price at. i was loling at the user review.

is 5500xt 8gb actually $50?

if that's the case, i wouldn't even bother, lol.

[idle spear]

i mean thats what i would sell it for ngl

thats what i got for my 6500xt

better off with a 1660 at that price

[long goblet]

4gb or 8gb?

[sinful cobalt]

5500xt is pretty dogshit by today's standards

[idle spear]

4gb the 8gb one is that much bc its kinda rare

[sinful cobalt]

5700xt is at rx6600 level and thats like min spec for today xd

[idle spear]

i keep getting huanted on ebay that i overpaid for my rx 6600xt

[long goblet]

tbh, it plays all the games i want to play at the resolutions i want to play them at. i wouldn't bother exchanging it, if not for the fact that rocm isn't built for it as a target.

[idle spear]

just whatever you do dont get that card

i mean in terms of furture proofing

[long goblet]

i have a 5500xt 8gb.

[idle spear]

oh god no

[long goblet]

i want to get a 9060xt.

[idle spear]

im so sorry

[tidal geyser]

5$ and a hamburger

Final offer

[long goblet]

like i said, it does all the gaming i want to do.

[idle spear]

i mean if it gets the job done

[tidal geyser]

You yea

[left dove]

dude i kinda wanna order mcdonalds

[long goblet]

the issue is rocm doesn't include it as a build target.

[left dove]

midnight burgy sounds so fire rn

[long goblet]

so i need something that ROCM includes as a build target.

or i go with cuda.

and thus nvidia

[left dove]

cooo dah

[tidal geyser]

Only 6000 and up started having tensor cores

[idle spear]

theres a sonic down from the road from my house mabye i should gert a 1am snack

[tidal geyser]

And only 9000 started having good tensor cores

[left dove]

midnight burgyyyyy

[long goblet]

that's why i'm looking at a 9060xt.

16gb, cause it makes little sense to upgrade without upgrading onbaord memory.

but i was hoping to recover some of the purchase price by selling my 5500xt.

but it sounds like there's no market.

[tidal geyser]

There is just not a big one, max I could ever see it for would be 50$

[long goblet]

even better: the CPU on this computer is a R9 5950X

slightly unbalanced computer

[idle spear]

holy shit

[long goblet]

at that price, i'm inclined to just hold it as a backup.

[left dove]

as you should

I've never sold any gpus that I've had over the years

[idle spear]

ive only sold my rx 6500xt

[sinful cobalt]

im not gonna sell my 9070xt, idk its just a spare gpu rn xd

[idle spear]

it got me through my rx 470 dieing

[sinful cobalt]

also my only card capable of playing expedition 33 rn

[left dove]

my 2080ti is getting retired to the server as a render node for opencl

[idle spear]

thats a spare for you😭

[sinful cobalt]

I mean, im gonna plop it back in to play expedition 33 someday

[long goblet]

i sold a geforce FX5700, a very long time ago...

[sinful cobalt]

my current card just has the engine fatalling no matter what i do

[left dove]

I don't know what to playyyyyy

[serene eagle]

tiny pasture

[long goblet]

y u no borderlands 2?

[left dove]

i have 1-4

[idle spear]

they dont want me to talk about the one edating game with a certian dictator

[long goblet]

do u have tiny tina's wonderlands?

[idle spear]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546

[left dove]

i dont think so

[formal sonnet]

Stray, CoD4 MW (2007), Cities Skylines II.

[formal sonnet]

If you liked the other Borderlands games, I highly recommend Tiny Tina's, especially if you have people to play together.

[long goblet]

i see no dwarf fortress.

[serene eagle]

Tiny pasture>>> everything else

|| I have no idea what that game is, but it sounds fun||

[long goblet]

you need dwarf fortress.

[left dove]

its a desktop idle game

[left dove]

DAMN OKAY im sold

[sinful cobalt]

i got yakuza series to play, indiana jones, expedition 33, witcher 33, detriot become human, dmc

I have finished none of them

[long goblet]

dwarf fortress could be a desktop idle game.

[idle spear]

what games should i get on my thinkpad t430

[long goblet]

...

dwarf fortress.

[left dove]

lfg

[idle spear]

almost to intensive but i can play it

[left dove]

god 120hz is so trippy

itS SO SMOOV

[long goblet]

sapphire vs gigabyte gpu?

[left dove]

sapph 100%

[long goblet]

why? the warranty period is 1 year less?

[left dove]

to be honest if I'm not worried about the warranty period on a gpu with the 12vhp connector, you shouldn't be worried about an amd gpu's warranty

[long goblet]

i've had the memory on a GPU go out. specifically, an XFX gpu that required RMA

[left dove]

and what series of gpu was that

[long goblet]

some amd gpu from many moons ago.

[left dove]

exactly, things are better engineered and manufactured

[long goblet]

i'm told this was some memory issue with the video card, lol.

[left dove]

Also I think its so stupid on how 12vhp has 4 static analog pins for declaring what power to give, why not just make it a fucking i2c line and make things simpler ffs

[long goblet]

dunno what 12vhp is.

[left dove]

the melting gpu power connector

[long goblet]

a 12 pin connector? or 8 pin?

[long goblet]

cause i certainly hope a 9060XT doesn't need a 12pin

[left dove]

its technically 16 pin but only 12 are used for power

[long goblet]

because i don't know where my spare cables are.

and i'm hoping i can just drop-in replace the 5500xt using the 9060xt

[left dove]

you're probably gonna need more 8 pin connectors

[long goblet]

our lord and savior chatgpt says only one needed.

pff, like anybody's got time for that.

sapphire vs xfx?

[left dove]

thats not memory issues lmao

[left dove]

sapph

[long goblet]

dunno. was told that at the time, textures extending beyond their frame in the unreal engine was a way that memory issues in the card could express themselves.

note: this was 20 years ago, and i was a snot nosed kid. i have no fucking idea what went wrong, other than RMAing the card fixed it.

[left dove]

thanks i feel old again

[edgy holly]

so many bangers damn

[long goblet]

well, i bought the card.

[hexed tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-having-a-senior-moment-tom-ellis-lucifer-morningstar-lauren-german-chloe-decker-gif-17391863

[sinful cobalt]

9060xt?

[long goblet]

ya, 16gb

[opaque bay]

im making an explorer replacement because there are actually none except classic shell

layouts fine but obviously doesnt look very good cause i just barely designed it

oh and i'll also use it in an os i'm attempting to make

[exotic valley]

quick question, does anybody know what further i can do to overclock my rtx 4070 ti super?

it feels like the performance is still not optimal

is there a way to just crank it a bit higher?

[placid belfry]

Trade it in at micro center for 5070ti if they give you good value and you have spare cash and idk what else reason to trade it in

[kindred wren]

this looks old

[hexed tapir]

its not that old

[kindred wren]

damn it looks old as hell

[hexed tapir]

since when is 2005 old

[bold laurel]

😭 what do you mean with "yes"

[pale flint]

anything older than 20 years is considered vintage

but it doesnt mean anything thats 20 years old is vintage

but yeah 20 years is definetly old

[kindred wren]

i'm born in 2003

[signal salmon]

Ram stick falling apart, how to fix

[hard chasm]

Could anyone help one of my friends please?

[serene eagle]

Damn

[serene eagle]

Time to use youtube

[solar moat]

just have it bare pcb

[signal salmon]

Bro I bought the trident z royals for a reason

[solar moat]

and?

[signal salmon]

Wdym and??

[solar moat]

was that reson not for good s8b bin?

[signal salmon]

No

It was for the looks.

[long goblet]

turn it off and on again?

[placid belfry]

Is that a 1 gig flash card ???
Amazing ! Those are supposed to be the newest tech for 2004

I can’t wait to see what 2005 will bring in tech

[edgy holly]

thats over 20 years ago btw

wait no only 20

[last valley]

Hey all
I’ve got a Toshiba satellite a300 I’ve missed placed the charger for it wandering if anyone knows what the socket name would be

[kindred wren]

lol

[placid belfry]

That thing Is from ancient times

[last valley]

Yes I know beets buying a new laptop for 2 bits of software

[last valley]

I’m mainly useing it to use 1 type of car for myself

[silk sierra]

I do love monitor arms. First time installing them and I love it.

[placid belfry]

Idk what that means

[placid belfry]

You need a better desk what is this

2ft and a half tall desk ?

[silk sierra]

I live with my parents my dad doesn’t let me get a new desk. He says it’s wasting money

[edgy holly]

cheap ass

[silk sierra]

Yep. I agree. He was pissed for buying the monitor arms. It was only 149 aud.

[kindred halo]

https://youtube.com/shorts/oEO9IBVICeY?si=hNiAdIKz8fE6ZGc6

This is pretty neat

[rigid fjord]

if that was me, i'd so wall mount them

[last valley]

Sorry my bad I’m turning one type of car for myself

[rigid fjord]

shotgun time

[placid belfry]

It’s for your better health

So he’d rather give you worse posture over money that’s reasonable 100-200$ can get a decent desk

[placid belfry]

Still doesn’t make sense

How do you “turn one type of car for yourself”

[silk sierra]

Also frowned apon

[kindred wren]

got some free ram sticks and cpu (just going to use it as decoration on my desk)

[placid belfry]

Ye in 10-25 years they’ll be worth a lot for museum purposes

[kindred wren]

i would love a tech museum for pc stuff

with like little souvernirs like keychain cpu's

or a tiny rtx 5090 keychain for your bags

[placid belfry]

5090 lighter

[edgy holly]

5090 fan

[twilit rain]

guys can a i3 1305U be enough for university?

[placid belfry]

Anything is enough for college

[edgy holly]

nothing isnt enough tho

[twilit rain]

i got acer aspire 3 recently so

[edgy holly]

you cant go to class butt naked can you

[twilit rain]

saw some boys having rogs, legions and yogas

[placid belfry]

Yes for gaming in college

People like to spend money on looks

Marketing wins

[last valley]

Sorry ment to be tune not turn stupid autocorrect

[twilit rain]

aint got rich daddy's like them tho

[placid belfry]

Tune car ok

So like research or jack into car computer

[silk sierra]

I have a good chair that I’ve put extra padding on so I am sitting up not slouching

[gleaming rose]

t1g gen 8 is likely to launch soon

[exotic valley]

i have a ryzen 3600x

rate the overclocking

Anyone likes the +2150 MHz for the memory clock?

[valid laurel]

hi i was wondering what’s a good aio that has a screen for about the £200-£250 range

[exotic valley]

This one

Currently on sale as well with government subsidy if your from mainland China

[craggy cove]

uhhh idk if thats available

[valid laurel]

why are you showing me a monitor?

[exotic valley]

That’s not a monitor, read the description, it’s an AIO with dedicated graphics card

[craggy cove]

they truly do have everything in china

[valid laurel]

i think that’s Japanese not mandarin

[exotic valley]

It’s mandarin

[random gyro]

imagine if i have this:
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/7XRTLc

[valid laurel]

oh wait no my mistake it is mandarin

[craggy cove]

thats a record (not that anybody's competing for it)

[valid laurel]

some of the characters looked japanese

[exotic valley]

lol, I guess not a lot people are combining 3600x with 4070ti super

[valid laurel]

can i have an actual answer please

[exotic valley]

Yeh xddd and I can def read quite some Japanese as well due to the similarities

[exotic valley]

Considering your budget maybe it’s the best practice to look up some second hand markets and check out for local availabilities?

[craggy cove]

kraken 360?

[exotic valley]

The best AIO imo is the iMac and ig that’s way above your budget

[valid laurel]

i thought £250 was a good price for a new aio with a screen

[craggy cove]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BNYSKB3P?tag=pcp0f-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1

personally i dont get it but not my pc

[valid laurel]

i’ll be getting a macbook pro in december but that’s going to be a pay monthly thing with a phone company

[craggy cove]

holy shit i was thinking of a water cooler

sorry

maybe you can game on the 1.54" screen

but you arent getting a new aio for that cheap

[sinful cobalt]

AIO as in those monitors that come with a PC inside or

because those are exp af

[exotic valley]

Nowadays a good monitor costs more than his budget

[craggy cove]

apparently yes

[craggy cove]

now im just confused

so you want a water cooler?

[valid laurel]

i have a samsung odyssey oled g8

[exotic valley]

With such a budget constraint, if I were him, I would probably look up ebay or facebook marketplace for some steal of a deal

[valid laurel]

yh

[craggy cove]

120 quid more for a slightly larger screen

[craggy cove]

compared to this

[valid laurel]

lol

[sinful cobalt]

both of you selected ewaste for an AIO

[valid laurel]

i did say £250 and that’s about £250

[sinful cobalt]

nzxt krakens bad

[craggy cove]

ymmv cause its a water cooler

havent had any problems with nzxt personally (sample size: 1)

[valid laurel]

well if i weren’t wanting a screen ill probably get the phanteks glacier one 360

[valid laurel]

btw just to correct u im a girl so im not a him

[craggy cove]

a 30 quid air cooler would perform exactly the same as this thing btw

[exotic valley]

Sry my bad, thanks for the correction

[sinful cobalt]

oh great another person who wants a screen on an AIO

[valid laurel]

your welcome

[craggy cove]

not my thing but hey not my money being burnt

[valid laurel]

💀

[craggy cove]

or you could buy a screen with an aio included

[solar moat]

RIP 2dpc

[valid laurel]

is this one good, i’m deciding to forget the screen seeing how it will be more expensive btw the cpu is going to be the ryzen 9 9950x3d

[solar moat]

whats it for

[valid laurel]

the cpu?

[solar moat]

the pc

[craggy cove]

minecraft

[valid laurel]

gaming, 3d modelling, 3d and 2d animation, digital art, photo and video editing etc and yes minecraft lol

[sinful cobalt]

dude you should add more screen i can almost see the AIO

[craggy cove]

i also need an angry ass cat in my pc

[valid laurel]

i’ll be using things like blender, cinema 4d, photoshop, unreal engine 5, other animation software like toon boom harmony etc

[steel umbra]

Steal street cat, put in pc, screw da side panel

[valid laurel]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bJRFVF @solar moat

[gleaming rose]

drop the NZXT case, get an Intel CPU

[valid laurel]

why intel?

[steel umbra]

They're selling off core ultras

[valid laurel]

and what’s wrong with that case?

[gleaming rose]

better for productivity

[gleaming rose]

too expensive

[steel umbra]

Intel basicly needs their cpus to get sold the sooner the better

Cuz yk they're losing 20% a year

[craggy cove]

i can put a barn kitten in mine but idk how long it will survive

[valid laurel]

https://youtube.com/shorts/eIz8S_sGdaQ?si=6vSx5XGQliPmGRv4

[craggy cove]

a feeder wont fit

[steel umbra]

3.5 seconds for sure

Idk about 5 seconds tho

[craggy cove]

its warm and nice in there so probably pretty long

[valid laurel]

i think i’m good with the current cpu

[valid laurel]

and eh not really the case anymore

[steel umbra]

4.9 seconds then

[steel umbra]

What's your primary use case

[valid laurel]

what’s a good white case that comes with fans and the power button is on the bottom

[sinful cobalt]

apnx v1

[valid laurel]

3d modelling, animation for university and in my free time sometimes but gaming more probably

[sinful cobalt]

lol full sized ATX case for uni

[valid laurel]

like 60% of the time will most likely be gaming

[sinful cobalt]

Bros gonna go into class not with a macbook, laptop but a H9 flow

[valid laurel]

i’m commuting from home

[exotic valley]

def skip AMD cards for these

[steel umbra]

I thimk nvidia and core ultra would be worth considering

[valid laurel]

that’s why i’m getting a rtx 5080

[valid laurel]

why core ultra and what cpu model? so i can compare specs

[sinful cobalt]

core ultra has more cores for productivity and do just fine in gaming

[steel umbra]

Core ultra is good for productivity which you're doing

[craggy cove]

core ultra 7 is pretty cheap

[zealous plover]

I hate how my iPhone is better than my laptop

[valid laurel]

and don’t give me basic answers for good for productivity like i want a in-depth explanation please

[true stirrup]

Your laptop must be ancient

[zealous plover]

It’s just a piece of shit

[exotic valley]

Is 5070ti a lot cheaper there in your area?

[valid laurel]

i would like my computer to run good in games not just fine as i’ll probably also design some games

[steel umbra]

I mean you have comparisons on the internet

[zealous plover]

How is 2 cores

And 2 threads

[valid laurel]

the rtx 5080 i’m getting is £909

[exotic valley]

Wow that’s a rly good price

[valid laurel]

ok what model of the core ultra? that’s comparable to the ryzen 9 9950x3d

[sinful cobalt]

the dropoff compared to a 9800x3d and 9950x3d with a 265k isnt bad lmao

[steel umbra]

the 3d cache isn't that much of use atleast compared to gaming scenarios where the extra l3 does get used more often

[valid laurel]

yh it’s the founders edition

[valid laurel]

i’ll be gaming on the pc like 60-65% of the time

[sinful cobalt]

studying for uni ❌
gaming for uni ✅

[steel umbra]

7 265k is pretty comparable and can be found really cheap at microcenter if you live in us or retail

[exotic valley]

Darn I didn’t have the leisure when I was in university

[steel umbra]

Which games

[sinful cobalt]

GPA 1.x student bro trust

the other 40% is being in class

[valid laurel]

i don’t have a microcentre i live in england

[exotic valley]

60% coding + 30% 3d designs + 5% miscellaneous + 5% gaming back in my days

[steel umbra]

How much does a 7 265k cost

[valid laurel]

fortnite, warzone cod, bo6, bo7, minecraft will be the main ones, but probably some other games

[true stirrup]

9950x3D does actually beat the 285K in productivity benchmarks by a small margin as it looks like
https://gamersnexus.net/cpus/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d-cpu-review-benchmarks-vs-9800x3d-285k-9950x-more

[solar moat]

it program to program and other factors do matter

[exotic valley]

I find it hard to switch to Intel when all of my past builds are based off Ryzen

[solar moat]

like arrow lake can smash grainit ridge in terms of memory bandiwth

[exotic valley]

Basically know nothing about that company and

[solar moat]

its not

[exotic valley]

I heard a lot of reliability concerns against them

[valid laurel]

is there a difference in price between the cpus?

[wheat torrent]

I'm my area 5080 was ~1400-1500 while the 5070 ti was 1000

Idk if you care

[exotic valley]

Intel being such a unfamiliar company to me, is making me hesitant to switch

[exotic valley]

Kinda similar here

[steel umbra]

Welp, some of them are l3 cache intensive, so yeah 9950x3d or 7950x3d are fine

[wheat torrent]

I got a used 4090 at a good price

[valid laurel]

i’ll get the 9950x3d then as i can afford it

[wheat torrent]

Better value higher risk

[exotic valley]

Maybe I will consider trying out Intel when they gain more market share and actually become the mainstream just for supports and compatibility

[steel umbra]

How much cheaper can you find the 7950x3d

[wheat torrent]

For GPU or CPU?

[exotic valley]

CPU

[wheat torrent]

Hearing that Intel needs to gain more market share in regards to CPU is wild, how the times changed

[exotic valley]

I have built more than a dozen PCs now and haven’t yet encountered a build with Intel hardware

[steel umbra]

Also why i'm using such a poor grammar in inglish mhmmm

[valid laurel]

that one costs more by a few quid

[sinful cobalt]

remind me why is he getting a full sized ATX case for university instead of a SFF/laptop

[grizzled frost]

formd T1 mayhaps

[sinful cobalt]

he can build a 9950x3d 5090- goddamnit iroh

[steel umbra]

Then the 9950x3d

[valid laurel]

yh lol

[wheat torrent]

I feel like most PCs were Intel only, now everyone talks about ryzen mostly

[valid laurel]

now can someone please tell me what aio/cpu cooler to get lol 😂 the reason why i came onto here to ask

[steel umbra]

As of cooling a dual tower will suffice

[wheat torrent]

I got a ultra 7 155h in my laptop

[grizzled frost]

only reason most PCs are still intel is people don't upgrade their PC that often

a vast majority of new sales are ryzen

[steel umbra]

@valid laurel basicly any 120mm dual tower with 6 or mote heatpipes

fans can be always changed

expect for few models*

[wheat torrent]

Intel cooked themselves with the new gen CPUs

[valid laurel]

is that an air cooler? wouldn’t an aio be better?

[steel umbra]

-20% a year says it all lol

[grizzled frost]

"what if we made a new gen that is actually worse than our last gen in most measurable ways"

[sinful cobalt]

formdT1
240mm atmos 2
SF1000
9950x3d+x870i
128gb ram
8tb 9100 pro
5090 FE

[steel umbra]

Yes, aio would be better but tower coolers last like forever unless they corrode

[wheat torrent]

I mean they really did try to push through my making those cpus be a furnace but it seems to backfire

[valid laurel]

i’m not paying £1000 more for a 5090

[steel umbra]

tower coolers are a bit cheaper

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-stick-some-iron-up-your-mouth-and-pull-the-trigger-johnny-silverhand-gif-26931703

[wheat torrent]

The 14th gen cooked itself while the 15th no one heard about

[steel umbra]

AIO's pump can die or leak

[grizzled frost]

AIOs have a limited lifespan

[steel umbra]

corrode from inside if it's poorly designed

[grizzled frost]

if you treat a tower cooler well, you could be using it for the next 2 decades

[sinful cobalt]

obviously should just go the 9950x3d and axp90x47c

[valid laurel]

is this one good enough?

[steel umbra]

Just get a tower cooler

[sinful cobalt]

do productivity and boom

[valid laurel]

ok

[valid laurel]

ok what one do you recommend

[grizzled frost]

anything from thermalright

[steel umbra]

.

[grizzled frost]

they refuse to make a bad tower cooler

[valid laurel]

this one good for the ryzen 9 9950x3d?

[sinful cobalt]

go phantom spirit evo

[true stirrup]

yes

[sinful cobalt]

Phantom spirit or nothing

[wheat torrent]

This is what I got

[true stirrup]

they literally perform basically the same

[valid laurel]

why phantom spirit

[sinful cobalt]

because my goat

[true stirrup]

PA is fine

[steel umbra]

Id cooling

random aliexpress ass 120mm dual cooler

wörks

[exotic valley]

wait i just realized you were referring to the AIO liquid cooler. i thought you were asking for All in One desktop @valid laurel

[valid laurel]

yes aio liquid cooler

[grizzled frost]

"AIO liquid cooler" is kind of redundant

[valid laurel]

who buys all in one desktops anymore?

[grizzled frost]

Most people

people that custom build PCs are just a vocal minority

[gleaming rose]

not the place to advertise

[placid belfry]

[valid laurel]

saying it more for joking wise but ok

[placid belfry]

I’d pay 5$ for it ngl

[valid laurel]

nah i think im good, i ain’t going bellow 100 lol

plus dollars are less than pounds

[gleaming rose]

tree fiddy

[placid belfry]

Hdd iMac unsupported old os sounds fun

[exotic valley]

some people

[gleaming rose]

HDD imacs with those hybrid drives are so ass

I would know cuz I have one in my music room

[placid belfry]

Kek

[exotic valley]

as far as i know quite alot people are still purchasing the all in one M4 iMac

[kindred halo]

How good is a 6950 XT AM5 system for 1.05K......

$1051.6 to be exact

[gleaming rose]

they did away with the slow drives iirc

[valid laurel]

the closest thing i’ll be getting to that is a macbook pro m4 pro

[placid belfry]

Is that gpu include

[kindred halo]

That's what I accounted for on the PCPP list yes

[placid belfry]

What’s gpu

[kindred halo]

AMD production 6950 XT

[placid belfry]

Board

[kindred halo]

Prime B650-Plus

[valid laurel]

also someone said my case im getting is bad

[gleaming rose]

are they releasing a new macbook?

[exotic valley]

kinda the same device, same hardware, same pricing, just in a different factor form

[gleaming rose]

not like I care, I'm waiting for the new thinkpads to drop

[kindred halo]

Le prime B650-Plus

In international market could've probably gotten a B850 for the same price

[valid laurel]

anyone know a case that does that same as this that comes with fans and the power button on the bottom

[kindred halo]

But local prices aren't good

[valid laurel]

that’s why i said closest

[ebon marlin]

I know one but forgot the name

But fans are very easy to install urself aswell

[placid belfry]

CPU

[valid laurel]

ok skip the fans, one that looks like that one but has power button on the bottom

[ebon marlin]

Deepcool has one

Deepcool CH690

[gleaming rose]

I would honestly get a MacBook if you could actually play any games on them.

[kindred halo]

7500F

[ebon marlin]

No way Deepcool is manufacturing the new Pixel 10 phone?

[kindred halo]

7400F is the only available local 7000 series sub 7600, but International market probably has the 7500F at the same price

[wheat torrent]

No thermal-throttling on my end

[kindred halo]

As I've seen instances of it on Newegg

[ebon marlin]

The 7400F is pretty poop compared to the 7500F

[placid belfry]

How about 9600x

[kindred halo]

I know

But I can only get either that or an 8500G lmao

[kindred halo]

190

[gleaming rose]

I don't even play crazy games

[kindred halo]

$67.12 different

[placid belfry]

67$

Spending 1k

[ebon marlin]

What about wine

[kindred halo]

This isn't an actual build

[placid belfry]

“If you can spend 1k you sure can spend 550$” sun tzu art of war

[kindred halo]

I was just seeing the feasibility of making a decently priced system

[placid belfry]

Nothing is decently priced anymore

[gleaming rose]

I could use crossover but I don't know if the performance is even ok on macos

[kindred halo]

That's the cost of the 6950 XT and A850GL :3c

[gleaming rose]

no vulkan support

[kindred halo]

Although a bit less

420 moreso

Since 400 + 120

[ebon marlin]

I mean, the M series macbooks could run cyberpunk

[gleaming rose]

could run and could run well are different things

[ebon marlin]

The M1 Macbook air could run it well

[kindred halo]

I am trying to

Since the GPU is priced fairly well

[steel umbra]

Food

[ebon marlin]

I don't think my alpacas would even eat that

[random gyro]

Which colour looks best?

[hard chasm]

Who’s gonna eat that

[hard chasm]

Purple, black OR Blue

[random gyro]

I'm waiting to pre-order the 17 and idk which colour to go for. Blue or black for me

[grizzled frost]

what the fuck is that

[tidal geyser]

Nuts

[placid belfry]

Go with black
Safest option keeps snatchers confused and don’t go dirty / scratches appear and all

[random gyro]

I do like the black

[placid belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/moyai-chad-gif-16181788534806025874

[random gyro]

Only thing im confused about, it's 1:07pm and yet pre-orders still aren't open

[hard chasm]

Hmm it’s 10 pm here 🇦🇺

[placid belfry]

You’re both wrong it’s 8am

[random gyro]

no its not

Timezones don't exist

[placid belfry]

The earth is actually vertical

[shy torrent]

They all look good imo

[hard chasm]

False Australia ahead of time

2 hours until Saturday for me

[grizzled frost]

it's 0800

[placid belfry]

Bro is hacking

[shy torrent]

all three of you are wrong, its 4 pm

[random gyro]

That's cause you smell

[hard chasm]

It’s not me it’s the Australian priminista

[placid belfry]

0gmt final offer I’m taking all the risk

[shy torrent]

?

[hard chasm]

I never knew you could smell my Coke

[placid belfry]

GMT time zone middle of all zones

[hard chasm]

Hmm

[grizzled frost]

why ain't you warn us about the silksong release?

[sinful cobalt]

Whichever you like best

[hard chasm]

I don’t listen to music 🙁

[shy torrent]

lol

[random gyro]

iPhone 17 pro is actually a waste of a phone

[placid belfry]

Fr

[hard chasm]

It’s the same size as others

[sinful cobalt]

I’d buy the pro just for the vapor chamber lmao

[random gyro]

"oh but I need a telephoto lens for all those telephoto shots I take in 50x zoom"

[placid belfry]

Apple are ultra creative at being wasteful and uncreative

[tidal geyser]

Silk song is a game

[hard chasm]

They made a paper thin iPhone new

[hard chasm]

Oh

[sinful cobalt]

Silk Song is a song
Silksong is a game

[hard chasm]

I only play Minecraft

[placid belfry]

Let’s make an ultra slim phone that has a terrible battery then sell a battery attachment with it that makes the phone ultra bulky

Only at apple

[hard chasm]

I’m in

[placid belfry]

Can brain damage product invention be possible

[random gyro]

Black or blue

[hard chasm]

That’s Samsung for you

[placid belfry]

Apple beat you to it
It’s called iPhone air

[placid belfry]

Nah Samsung good

[hard chasm]

Blue looks cooler but black hides the scratches

[hard chasm]

Samsung batteries explode 🤯

[placid belfry]

Black also makes it seem unappealing less people stealing

[sinful cobalt]

Black has no personality but is lower-key and a safer option

[tidal geyser]

Na

[random gyro]

Woah, why tf is it so expensive?!

[tidal geyser]

What is

[hard chasm]

Did you not know that

[placid belfry]

Thanks for reminding me
I have s7 and s9 and s6 sitting for years planning to take out pictures from them

[random gyro]

It's £1000 "apparently"

[placid belfry]

Gotta do it before they explode

[random gyro]

It's £799 on the website, why tf has it gone up £200?

[placid belfry]

Because supply and demand

[hard chasm]

That’s around 2.5k AUD

[steel umbra]

correcto

[hard chasm]

Don’t wait too long or it will explode because the older models the Battery Expands over time

[steel umbra]

hammer ‘em and eat

[placid belfry]

Fml

[sleek fulcrum]

Hi all. For the MSI monitors looking for a 32inch gaming. Which should I be looking at. Mpg, Meg, Mag, G, NXG ?

[placid belfry]

Gotta spend the time to work on them
One of em needs screen swap I have it ready

Been post poning since 2020

Past five years went by fast

[sinful cobalt]

whatever fits ur budget n needs

[placid belfry]

I blame corona virus

[sinful cobalt]

as someone "blocked" by elian I know damn well he's 1 to shit out excuses

[quasi moat]

Is this a fair comparison or no

Obv different in many ways

[sleek fulcrum]

Should I look for HDR 600 and up?

[sinful cobalt]

specify ur needs

[quasi moat]

But how far are mobile gpus getting

[sleek fulcrum]

Ok

For gaming

[sinful cobalt]

you almost cant directly compare dedicated cards and mobile APUs because they suit different needs

[sinful cobalt]

I mean, specwise..

[sleek fulcrum]

@quasi moat the elite 8 mobiles are really good powerful enough to emulated a switch.

[sinful cobalt]

What panel? Budget?

[hard chasm]

Blame corona virus for yourself being too lazy to swap screens

[placid belfry]

Pandemic times and way of life conditioned my time perception differently

[reef gorge]

Hey guys, im getting the iPhone 17 pro Silver and wanted to know which case would be the best? Im looking for something thats rough and tough. Also, a screen protector too

[cold haven]

hi does anymore know where to get new msi bt drivers. the one i installed keeps disabling itself every time now

[placid belfry]

Spigen
Someone here will say otterbox tho

[cold haven]

this was the site i got them on

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/mag-b550-tomahawk-max-wifi.378124/

[hard chasm]

Otterbox

[placid belfry]

That’s where you get it from

Could windows installing a driver from its own archive

[sleek fulcrum]

@sinful cobalt idk which model should be looking at. I guess Meg? Budget $800

[placid belfry]

Disable windows drivers update

[hard chasm]

http://otterbox.com

[sinful cobalt]

Just look for OLED

[cold haven]

ok

[placid belfry]

https://www.spigen.com/collections/iphone-17-series-case-collection?utm_campaign=Apple_Series_Search_Campaign&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=14829167904&gbraid=0AAAAAD3wpBtTKDxlUqKCG5mMgOB2Nu5KD&gclid=CjwKCAjwiY_GBhBEEiwAFaghvuRZ9pePPWOcpiKVsHyJRrcGuo4NQoXTPXIbJzhXo2BggxamKcBBYhoCn2UQAvD_BwE

[random gyro]

why at apple is the iPhone 17 £799 but on ID mobile it's £1000?

[sleek fulcrum]

Ok

[placid belfry]

Msrp vs retailer

[hard chasm]

There expensive

[placid belfry]

Spigen

[hard chasm]

67

[hard chasm]

Expensive

[grizzled frost]

Basically anything from apple, that you're buying new, should be purchased direct from apple

[hard chasm]

Facts

[placid belfry]

They have some for 15$ bruh different models

[gleaming rose]

how well on what settings

[placid belfry]

200%

[sinful cobalt]

the shittiest ones

[hard chasm]

Amazon 💀

[gleaming rose]

figures

[earnest nymph]

i got a 9070xt and a 7800x3d expecting 120fps in fortnite in 1440p. i got 560 FPS WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

[gleaming rose]

yeah I'm getting a thinkpad, fuck Apple even though the Macs are really quite nice

[gleaming rose]

9070xt is a good card

[placid belfry]

This one case is good 20$

[earnest nymph]

nah man, its goated

[warm saffron]

hi

[earnest nymph]

since when is there an iphone 17?

[placid belfry]

What a scam

[sinful cobalt]

since like 2 days ago

[placid belfry]

Bruh living in 2004 💀

[sinful cobalt]

it was announced

[warm saffron]

You guys want a cursed image of my shitrig?

[earnest nymph]

i was born in 2010

[placid belfry]

Yes pls

[gleaming rose]

I like apples ui design and stuff

really good laptops - but damn they're expensive and can't even game

also no trackpoint

[placid belfry]

When you were born I was 15 crazy times

[warm saffron]

This is idling. It can get up to 90C

[sinful cobalt]

holy fuck so Elian is just a 30 yo in lalaland

[warm saffron]

SOME LIKE IT HOT

[wheat torrent]

In this example the matte looks to be doing exactly the opposite of what it should do

[placid belfry]

Thought it would be the actual build

[warm saffron]

Ask and you shall receive

[placid belfry]

Go with matte for a comfortable setup

[sinful cobalt]

holy misinformation

[warm saffron]

(it's just a dell xps 🥱)

[placid belfry]

My bruda I can build a house inside that amount of dust

[warm saffron]

Yeah I leaf blowered it

[placid belfry]

💀

[warm saffron]

Still ran just as hot tho after

[placid belfry]

Fans will create power

[warm saffron]

I probably need to repaste

[placid belfry]

Back feed board

[wheat torrent]

Its just interesting that it looks to be twice the light size and twice the intensity

[warm saffron]

She can take it

[wheat torrent]

Even though it's supposed to reflect less

[placid belfry]

Repaste is the magic word

[placid belfry]

She’s getting old tho

[warm saffron]

Shes still got factory paste

OEM baby

Fucking mint

[placid belfry]

Well he’s capturing video of screen
Light and camera angle matter a lot
Both are not on same angle so

[placid belfry]

There’s the 90c

[hallow minnow]

How cooked am I on a scale from 1 to 10

[placid belfry]

That paste is dryer than my neck on a cold night walk

[sinful cobalt]

0% hp xd

[warm saffron]

The real question is, do I drop an arc b580 in this for 200 bucks, or just bite the bullet and rebase to a budget AM5 black Friday build

[sinful cobalt]

b580 has cpu overhead issue

[warm saffron]

The arc will absolutely bottleneck lmao

[broken palm]

yay

[warm saffron]

Yeah the cpu will not help at all

[hallow minnow]

its like one and a half year old hard drive bro :(

[placid belfry]

More cooked than a McDonald’s mcmice with cheese

[warm saffron]

It's over

[warm saffron]

Why does the truth always have to hurt so much

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/838845725676404846.png?quality=lossless&name=whyyy&size=48

[placid belfry]

Whatever you do don’t jump ships, save your $$$ tough times are coming

Unless Black Friday deal is cool

Idk

[sinful cobalt]

holy misinformation from elian again

[warm saffron]

I have like 200-500ish budgeted but you are absolutely probably correct

Tough times are always coming so fuck it

[placid belfry]

Drop in a cool gpu and call it a day

[sinful cobalt]

just jump to am5 build why’d you wanna suffer with a fuckass OEM

[placid belfry]

For the love of memes change that paste

[warm saffron]

See you both represent the conflict in my brain

[placid belfry]

Man is always given choice between evil and good

[sinful cobalt]

having a good CPU is better than suffering with an awful CPU and GPU

Fyi elian spreaded misinformation and blocked an entire chat of reasonable people

[placid belfry]

Choose reason! Don’t throw your money and later lack bread !

[warm saffron]

But he's a regular. I can trust those right???

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1104202634929373235.png?quality=lossless&name=clueless&size=48

[placid belfry]

Mom I got a nice pc setup and I’m eating 1$ ramen packs

[sinful cobalt]

cant trust all of em

especially when they spread misinformation and asked stupid questions before

[placid belfry]

Don’t listen to people who tell you to throw yourself in debt for a pc
If you can’t easily afford it not worth it

[sinful cobalt]

mf searched NPU chipset drivers for a integrated graphics

would you rather trust a boomer who blocked an entire chat of well-reasonable and knowledgeable people or someone who’s from that chat

[warm saffron]

I mean 500 is plenty to switch chipsets and keep my GPU but in a more modern rig

[sinful cobalt]

up2u

[warm saffron]

Esp. at end of year

[placid belfry]

It’s a slippery slope

Plus ask yourself if you’ll need that money for life

Food transportation work school

Idk

[sinful cobalt]

answer is simple: get a B650/B850 7400f/7500f/8400f build with 32gb ram and you wont struggle with a weak CPU and insufficient ram. Its better to cope with a weak GPU

[warm saffron]

If I spend the money then that is what I shall do

I live near an hr away from a microcenter too so I'll wait and see what they cook up for black friday

[sinful cobalt]

btw 8400f is for extremely budget situations

[warm saffron]

Tho I kinda doubt amd is gunna be selling aggressively this year they have the market

[sinful cobalt]

if you can, try to get 7400f or 7500f

or a 7600 since microcenter xd

[warm saffron]

I wanna gunna see about doing like a b650/ 7600 or something yeah

Just get on AM5 and cruise

[sinful cobalt]

Yeah Id rather suffer with a shitty GPU+CPU that can run laps around the current than a combo salvaged from the wastelands

[random gyro]

making your own public server is hard

who agree

[placid belfry]

I’m an hour from microcenter Kek was there two days ago

[placid belfry]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007092/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d,-asus-b650e-e-tuf-gaming-wifi-am5,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

630$

[sinful cobalt]

sending a link for a $630 bundle when the budget is $500 is crazy

[warm saffron]

Hahaha

[sinful cobalt]

you cant convince me otherwise this guy’s iq is room temperature

[warm saffron]

I've seen all the deals

[sinful cobalt]

in degrees celcius to be exact

[warm saffron]

I'm HODLing

[placid belfry]

My experience with microcenter
Best time to buy is late November

Peak good pricing

[solar moat]

rip ddr3

[placid belfry]

Within the ten days leading to cyber Monday

[warm saffron]

Somehow it can still run bf6 at 60 fps

With not much tweaking

[solar moat]

and ?

[warm saffron]

And that surprises me

Computers ain't what they used to be I guess

[solar moat]

?

[placid belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/split-personality-joaquin-phoenix-clowns-clown-meme-clown-face-gif-27322103

Clowns have weird perceptions gotta make peace with that

[sinful cobalt]

theres one right above me

[solar moat]

and then there me

and then there nimona

https://tenor.com/iRVI7LCadAv.gif

[edgy holly]

she lowk schmoving

also go white boy go

[solar moat]

nimona is nimona

[ebon marlin]

Seems like Samsung is making their first Pro phone

It's gonna replace the Plus model

Bruh what leaked screen size is 6.3"

The base S25 is 6.2"

[random gyro]

So? New phone have differences

[random gyro]

i think its plus/ultra

Black iPhone 17 256 pre-orders, will be here in 7 days LSFG

Wait, LSFG is lossless frame gen

I meant, let's fudgin go

I chose black because I don't like clear cases, and so I'll be buying a case, so colour doesn't matter

Plus, it looks clean asf

bro keeps going no matter what 👍

[random gyro]

i mean this

wait nvm

forget what i said

I struggled asf to get the phone. The website crashed repeatedly. I tried ID mobile, Sky mobile, O2, EE, Three, Giff Gaff, theft

The only one that properly worked was ID mobile

I surprisingly have no regrets

Teal > Sage

Sage is left, teal is right

Ultramarine 1 vs Mist blue 2

I can't be the only one who thought Ultramarine was TOO much

[sinful cobalt]

teal is nice

[random gyro]

I did buy a teal iPhone 16 like 4 days ago, sent it back when iPhone 17 got announced because im sorry, 256gb storage was the game changer for me.

But, Teal 16 > Black 17 in terms of aesthetic

But I didn't really like the blue this time round

Do any of you guys what Kryzzp

watch*

[twin grove]

Man I haven't seen one of these in forever

[random gyro]

Anyone here like Daniel Owen?

[twin grove]

I've watched a couple of his videos

[sleek fulcrum]

Is anything lower than hdr 400 considered not good still

[random gyro]

wym

[sleek fulcrum]

Few months ago guilty said something about any monitors hdr lower than 600 isn't good performance

[random gyro]

do you have one?

[sleek fulcrum]

No lol

I have an old ips 27inch from Dell. It's an ultrasharp

[twin grove]

Mine is only like hdr 100 but for most games it's fine I always have the lights off anyways it's still a better than no hdr. I only really watch movies on it when they aren't avaliable in 3d since 3d movies with VR is better than like even going to the movies imo.

[mortal mantle]

finally got my Mi Box S to show up to ADB

[faint flower]

Possible to mix 2x 16gig with 2x 8 gigs of ram, same brand same frequency?

[random gyro]

Yep

I did that for like a year

[faint flower]

K thanks

[grizzled frost]

ddr4 or ddr5

[faint flower]

4

[grizzled frost]

yeah should be fine

less than ideal, but will probably work

[faint flower]

Better than rocking 16?

[random gyro]

Dude

It doesn't matter, it changes nothing.

Trust me. You won't notice performance loss, or any problems.

[faint flower]

How does it work

[grizzled frost]

Slightly worse performance, but you get the added capacity

[random gyro]

It's just ram. You'll have more ram.

[random gyro]

Nope. Not slightly worse performance.

[grizzled frost]

basically, do you use more than 32gb of ram

[grizzled frost]

2dpc is slightly worse performance than 1dpc at a given clockspeed

[random gyro]

You're acting like it's the end of the world. It's not a big deal.

[grizzled frost]

I never said it was the end of the world, i said it's slightly worse performance

[random gyro]

I did it for a year, just do it @faint flower You won't actually notice anything.

[faint flower]

I am planning to go ddr5 and i currently have 32 gigs so it wouldnt have much to do with those which is why i am giving tjem to a friend with 16 gigs

[grizzled frost]

I mean if you want the capacity, go ahead, you're unlikely to notice the slight performance degradation

[faint flower]

Yeah i will

[grizzled frost]

And if you were running out of capacity, it'll be a nice upgrade

[faint flower]

Thanks shouldi mix chanbels tho?

Channels

Or have 1 dual channel kir and the ither not

Kit

[grizzled frost]

Have the 16gb dimms in slots 1b 2b, and then the 8gb dimms in 1a and 2a

that way the capacity is the same per channel

[faint flower]

Alright

Thanks for your help and the info

[grizzled frost]

Happy to help

[random gyro]

You want my honest opinion?

I personally, am not keen, I think you got something good there, but I don't think Ctrl Alt Fix is the one

Ultimately, it's up to you, you might disagree, that's fine

[ebon marlin]

Hmm interesting China gets a slightly worse modified version of the iPhone Air

[random gyro]

wdym

I don't think that was a bad name, I just don't think it's the one.#

[ebon marlin]

Normally the Air supports upto 20w of Magsafe charging but in China it's 15w

what

[random gyro]

hmmm, weird

[grizzled frost]

If anything i would have expected the opposite, given china has reduced EMI regulations

[ebon marlin]

Usually Asia always gets the better version of phones

[random gyro]

Probably cause America stuff, same thing Nvidia has to do with the 5090D

[ebon marlin]

Same with the base iPhone 17

[random gyro]

I just pre-ordered my iPhone 17, I'm actually really excited

[ebon marlin]

Base iPhone 17 supports 25w magsafe but China version supports only 15w

Seems to be for every single iPhone 17

This has been a thing since iPhone 16

So weird

[random gyro]

What do you guys actually think of the iPhone air and iPhone 17 pros

[ebon marlin]

Poop

I mean, the 17 Pro and Pro Max are the only worthwhile iPhones to get

They kinda fucked up the base 17

[random gyro]

I sent back my 16 I bought 3-4 days ago, and got the 17

[random gyro]

How?

The base 17 is the only one worth buying.

[ebon marlin]

iPhone 17 doesn't support LTPO nor LTPS

So ur screen will be running 120fps/hz the whole time

Not great for battery

LTPO is great since it can reduce ur refresh rate down to 1hz when needed to help conserve battery

[random gyro]

It literally goes down to 1hz

It has Always-On, that requires 1hz

They aren't doing a 120hz always on display

[ebon marlin]

Apple calls it pro-motion and it's missing

[random gyro]

Its right here

ProMotion Technology, Always On display

[ebon marlin]

Ah damn it's changed then

That's great then

Before the launch of the 17 it was leaked to be missing that feature

[azure fog]

anyone have any recs for a good work laptop in the 700 range? dad's looking for something decent but not like super powerhouse

[random gyro]

iPhone 17 is the only worth while one

[random gyro]

Anything snapdragon tbh

[ebon marlin]

I wouldn't recommend Arm laptops they still miss support in lots of stuff

[random gyro]

If all he's doing is simple work stuff, then snapdragon should suffice nicely

[cosmic idol]

What does it need to run

[cosmic idol]

But we don’t know that yet
Always good to ask first!

[azure fog]

just like word, chrome and outlook, but like comfortably

not like bare minimum, cant handle more than 10 chrome tabs or whatever

[cosmic idol]

ok yeah iirc a snapdragon based laptop will be just fine and will have great battery life

[azure fog]

they do laptop stuff now?

i thought snapdragon was mobile devices

[cosmic idol]

For a lil while now yeah!

[random gyro]

Yea, they very efficient

Good battery life and performance.

[azure fog]

any downsides to this though?

[cosmic idol]

Well a laptop is mobile…. But yes.

[azure fog]

its arm based so poor compatibility?

[azure fog]

yeah i guess if we're being pedantic 😅 i mean like phones and tablets

[grizzled frost]

better than it used to be, not as good as x86-64 tho

[random gyro]

Not much anymore. Especially if he's only using simple softwares. But if he wanted to game, video edit, photo edit, that's where there's problems

[cosmic idol]

Lack of game support I think
And some editing apps or whatever

Get your dad to make a lil list of all the software he uses then research it

[azure fog]

yeah thats not what he's doing luckily. i'll ask him the software he plans to use, like rn and and in the future

[cosmic idol]

🙏

[azure fog]

yea i'll do that. otherwise as a fallback, any good x86-64 recs at this price point?

[cosmic idol]

You can get some nice refurbished laptops here in Australia, idk about where you are.

Kinda hard being Aussie cos idk how to give advice to Americans fr

[hallow minnow]

it.. revived itself?

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[hallow minnow]

it showed 0 % and a failure warning this morning

also It was clicking but it just stopped doing that

files transfer normally

wtf happened

[random gyro]

is 9070 worth it at all? i only ever hear people talk about the XT version. the 5070 costs the same

[ebon marlin]

how much more is the XT for you

[gleaming raft]

Guys what do you think of a r5 5500 and 5700xt combo?

[ebon marlin]

get the 5600 instead

5500 is abysmal dogshit

[gleaming raft]

No

It was a combo

With mobo

For 128

[ebon marlin]

sell it and get a 5600

[gleaming raft]

And a mouse pad

[gleaming raft]

Its still good its like a 3600x

[ebon marlin]

it's way worse

[random gyro]

9070 is 600EUR (new, i can get from amazon warehouse for 580EUR), the XT is always 700+ with discounts here and there down to 685EUR

[ebon marlin]

a 3600x is way better than a 5500

[gleaming raft]

Nuh uh

[ebon marlin]

it is

[gleaming raft]

Its also 2x the price

[ebon marlin]

they go for like 60-80€ used

5500 has half the cache of the 3600x lol

[gleaming raft]

It lroforms about the same as the i3 12100f

[ebon marlin]

12100f is also shit

[mortal plume]

could be worse, my 4300g had 4mb

[gleaming raft]

100fps?

[ebon marlin]

100fps in what?

[mortal plume]

why does amd hate putting l3 cache in their apus

[ebon marlin]

raytracing performance

[mortal plume]

and the apus with the igpu sliced off to sell at a reduced price

[gleaming raft]

No

The 5500 has 16mb cache

[ebon marlin]

which is dogshit

[gleaming raft]

The 3600x has 3mb

[ebon marlin]

ay caramba buddy is on crack today

[mortal plume]

3600x has 32mb

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/itzillit-cat-sleepy-cat-gif-1344318570403703586

[ebon marlin]

5500 vs 3600x

[gleaming raft]

At least thats what it says :skull

[ebon marlin]

L3 cache is pretty important

[gleaming raft]

Why did Google say 3mb cache

[tidal geyser]

Fyi the gaming performance is close but other stuff the zen 3 is ofc better

[gleaming raft]

💀

[random gyro]

so should i get a 5070 or 9070? i cant really afford to go XT/Ti

[tidal geyser]

Since its trash

[ebon marlin]

it's why 5800x3d can still keep up with newer cpus like 14900k for example

depending on the game

[tidal geyser]

Only game I have seen em on par is tomb raider

[gleaming raft]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-what-the-hell-what-the-fuck-huh-what-gif-16553984

[ebon marlin]

ur choice

[random gyro]

well the RT diff doesnt seem to be high

[gleaming raft]

Well

[ebon marlin]

9070 is not bad but 9070xt would be significantly better as the whole purpose of the 9070 is to make you buy the XT

[mortal plume]

or why the 5700x3d is still somewhat viable for gaming with a 4070

[random gyro]

yeah ik, its just that i kinda dont wanna spend 700EUR for a gpu

[solar moat]

4790k is viable

[random gyro]

585 seems a lot more reasonable

[ebon marlin]

5700x3d is meh

[solar moat]

if you running good tight memory

[gleaming raft]

I think ima leep the 5500 since its for a budget flip

And also o only have 10$ rn

[mortal plume]

agreed, it sucks for anything cpu heavy

[gleaming raft]

Till my birthday

[mortal plume]

i had to bump my resolution up to 1440p in helldivers cause i was getting cpu bottlenecked by it

[ebon marlin]

5700x3d is great yes but 5000x3d cpus don't have high clocks so that's why 5800x3d will be better due to higher clocks

[mortal plume]

yeah the clocks are abysmal

i think it maxes out at like 4.1ghz

for anything non cpu heavy it's great

the second you put significant load on the cpu it falls apart tho

[random gyro]

wait is a a 5070 OC for 523eur a good deal?

seems to be far lower than every other 5070 i see

[ebon marlin]

only difference between 5700x3d and 5800x3d is clock speeds and for those cpus it's a big deal

[ebon marlin]

not a bad deal

i'd go for that over the 9070

60€ cheaper than the 9070