tech-chat-1

[grizzled frost]

xbox gamebar?

[wheat torrent]

it appears when i press

the first letter of amebar

I disabled it in settins but It STILL IS HERE

[grizzled frost]

your win key is stuck then

[wheat torrent]

oh ok

[gleaming rose]

I don't know if this is a dealbreaker because it has the best screen on any laptop like ever

[wheat torrent]

there we go

what a terrible implementation who thought about this

[charred knot]

all cleaned with some cable management finally

1 years of dust. gone

[solar moat]

RIP 2dpc

[charred knot]

wat

[solar moat]

2dimm per channel

[charred knot]

it’s a 7900x

[solar moat]

and?

[grizzled frost]

zen4 only has one memory controller

[solar moat]

thats like worse case

[grizzled frost]

doesn't really matter what the chip is, the memory controller is the same

[charred knot]

okay i’ll just get a 7950x3d

[solar moat]

?

[dusk willow]

apple might start cooking xiaomi and other brands as its back in form....... idk about samsung, a lot to catchup though.....

[grizzled frost]

same memory controller, same memory support

[grizzled frost]

apple relies heavily on samsung

[dusk willow]

for screens and all yeah

[cold skiff]

Basically. Unless you’re good with ram overclocking and got some good luck. You’ll only be getting base speed with 4 dimms.

[grizzled frost]

if samsung went out of business, apple would be close behind

[charred knot]

i rock 5000 mts

[pale flint]

1 year is nothing

[cold skiff]

There we go then

[pale flint]

why so

[cold skiff]

Probably rated atleast 6000 and above and ya getting 5000

[charred knot]

yes

[tidal geyser]

hope those are dummy sticks

[charred knot]

but amd expo isn’t enabled

[tidal geyser]

you cant

[solar moat]

and the plot thickens

[cold skiff]

Unless you’re doing large LLMs or something that needs a mass of you’re better off taking them 2 out

[tidal geyser]

losing a solid 10-20% for most things

[charred knot]

that would be the server pc

[cold skiff]

That’s fair enough then

Expensive server pc with an Aorus board I guess

[tidal geyser]

256GB ram

[solar moat]

shoud be runing aqt 3600 with out xmp

[charred knot]

lmao no

it’s running at 5000 per dimm

[tidal geyser]

its the default

[cold skiff]

Time to grab my popcorn

[tidal geyser]

1:2?

unless you need more than 128GB there is ZERO point in 4 sticks

[solar moat]

yes good idea

[solar moat]

as long as there not runing 16/24Gb ram sticks i not going to puke

[swift stream]

am I the only run who REALLY dislikes Nux Taku? 😔 🥀

[tidal geyser]

8GB

[charred knot]

anyways as i was saying when i case swap into the havn 420 i’m buying 2 64 vengeance sticks and the ones in my pc now will be put into the compute unit

[tidal geyser]

i have zero clue who that is so do most people

[cold skiff]

What’s a blind reaction? Are they just listening to it?

[glad gale]

remember when a lot of people where running 4x4gb ram lmao

[tidal geyser]

xd someone got warshipped

[solar moat]

me

[cold skiff]

I ran 4x2gb ddr2 unganged

[charred knot]

i am running 4:16 sticks, i was ill informed a year ago

[cold skiff]

I might need a bigger bag of popcorn

[charred knot]

but they are running at 5000 mts

[grizzled frost]

i'm running 2x48 and love it

[solar moat]

thats been bad idea since ddr3 at least

[grizzled frost]

it runs at full 6000mt/s cl30 with no problems

[charred knot]

confirmed via bios and task manager

[solar moat]

2dpc has allways been bad

[swift stream]

almost all of their vids on the channel are the exact same thumbnail

[solar moat]

zentimigns i want to see peak shit

[charred knot]

you want to see?

[solar moat]

yes

[charred knot]

do i need to boot into bios or is task manager enough

[solar moat]

zentimings shows all memory info

for amd zen cpus

[charred knot]

okay is it just an application

[solar moat]

yes

[dusk willow]

i like men

[solar moat]

and?

[grizzled frost]

I don't like men, but i have a professional admiration for a sexy man

[solar moat]

why shoud i care

[glad gale]

how does expanding an array work in hexos? i understand its not using normal raid but some zfs stuff. can i start with 2 drives and expand later or do i need minimum 3 to kick it out of mirror and into parity mode?

[grizzled frost]

you'd have to remake the array to expand it

[cold skiff]

I mean I always told my missus if George Clooney came along I’d be off…

[charred knot]

oaununching

[glad gale]

no matter what i do with confiugration and settings and stuff?

[solar moat]

oh and peak PFP/user name

[grizzled frost]

trueNAS doesn't support array expansion

and HexOS is built on trueNAS

[winged sky]

Men make banana expand his array

[grizzled frost]

correct

[winged sky]

[charred knot]

@solar moat im sure u know how to fix this

[grizzled frost]

expanding an array one drive at a time is why people use UNRaid

[solar moat]

ah yes windose war on winring0

[charred knot]

idk what u sayinngg twin

[solar moat]

second time i seen it idk how to fix

[glad gale]

thats a shame. expanding an array seems like something hexos would wanna fix to make it normie friendly

[solar moat]

tell windose to open it

[tidal geyser]

and why people lose data with unraid

[solar moat]

and not get mad at winring0 this time

[winged sky]

Wait wait wait, you cant keep adding drives after making a pool with raid?

[cold skiff]

Kernel level is bad … no one wants winring… but everyone lets game companies inject their anti cheat in their kernel 🤷

[tidal geyser]

raidz?????

raidz expansion is a thing considering that is almost the only thing you can use now on truenas

[grizzled frost]

don't you just have to add a vDev

[tidal geyser]

anyhow, for some reason a person i sold one of these too wants more

[tidal geyser]

you can do that too but raidz you can just expand the same one

[charred knot]

what evenn is winring

[grizzled frost]

damn i wish i knew that

[grizzled frost]

sys file

one falsely flagged as a trojan by windows recently

[charred knot]

sodid i jusr download some random dudes malware

[winged sky]

Also why im switching to Linux soon(ish), cant have kernel level anticheat if they dont let anticheat run on Linux in the first place

[charred knot]

oh

[grizzled frost]

windows be a little silly at times

it's a common sys file used by HW monitoring and OC software

[cold skiff]

Kernel level anti cheat is just a way of eradicating Linux from the gaming sphere tbfh

[winged sky]

Ngl that looks like one of those scam 750tis

[tidal geyser]

and nothing to do with cheat prevention?

[cold skiff]

They’re making multiple esports rigs for cs 1.6

[abstract wigeon]

i hate moddddingggggggggg

works fine
reinstalls windows
nothing works

[grizzled frost]

vortex sucks

[tidal geyser]

i love how the 750 ti is still getting updates

[tidal geyser]

what else to use

[abstract wigeon]

what else is there

[glad gale]

so can i expand a raid z vdev in hexos?

[grizzled frost]

manual mod installing

[abstract wigeon]

i do every other game manually its just skyrim

[winged sky]

As if. Im gonna use Linux and just not play those games. And even if I do, ima just stick it on a vm

[tidal geyser]

hexos is truenas but 200$ more expensive from 0

[tidal geyser]

recompile the game

[glad gale]

i got it a launch price because i know god damn well i would never pay full price for it

[cold skiff]

Considering DMA is the most used platform of cheating these days, kernel level won’t recognise that. So no, it’s not to do with actual cheat prevention

[tidal geyser]

cant stick kernal level in a VM also very wonky

[tidal geyser]

DMA takes one hell of a lot more effort

[cold skiff]

It does. Yet people make a lot of money using it.

[tidal geyser]

it costs like 1k to buy DMA shit

its not cheap

[winged sky]

Then i just won't play those games. Not that big of a loss. If they enable anticheat for Linux then I'll play their game. If not, oh well

[charred knot]

i’m not gunna figure out sorry @solar moat

[cold skiff]

DMA is cheaper now a days

[tidal geyser]

yea cheaper but not cheap

[cold skiff]

You can just get a card for a few hundred, shove it in a spare PC, subscribe to a service for a fee and away you go

[tidal geyser]

DMA only had to become a thing as we got kernal level and so on

ofc should not be a thing but cheating in video games is so fucked

[cold skiff]

People gotta get attention, fame and money on twitch dawg.

It’s 2025.

[charred knot]

@solar moat

[solar moat]

what

[cold skiff]

It’s not about playing the game anymore. It’s about using DMA to show you’re a pro gamer living in a shithole and choosing to do so.

[charred knot]

it be saying 5000 mts

[solar moat]

hwinfo64 i want to see other things

[cold skiff]

That’s not your timings

[charred knot]

is that a command

[tidal geyser]

no

[solar moat]

hwinfo64 can show you

[charred knot]

is there a command shell thing i can do

[tidal geyser]

program on the interwebs

[cold skiff]

How on Earth have you set up your own server and know nothing of the basic monitoring?

Like is it actually a server or is it just storage?

[rigid fjord]

yup, it bushes out quickly, then self seeds soon as it flowers up, and then from that a small bush of it turns into quarter of the garden, though if you can capture the seeds and grind them down, you end up with coriander as a spice instead of a herb, the seeds are used for a spice and the leaf is used as a herb

[glad gale]

im looking to buy a nice steering wheel finally, buying directly from the moza website is a few hundred kr cheaper than normal sites but do they include VAT/moms in their prices?

[grizzled frost]

that's a great question to look on their site for the answer for

[charred knot]

awh shit

jj was right my ram is shit

[rigid fjord]

when "pro's" are not actually pros and when put into a setup that doesn't have said DMA's they end up losing harder than dinosaurs in a meteor strike

[glad gale]

well yeah, i am looking through their site for any mention of it but just if anyone knew

[charred knot]

@solar moat i hate to see my haters win

but fine, take the cake

[cold skiff]

Oh yeah. That’s why they just hide behind 12 hours of twitch every day at home

[solar moat]

send the memory tab

[cold skiff]

Penny. Drops.

[solar moat]

]

[daring crystal]

Apple event today 🤑🤑🤑

[cold skiff]

They’ve already started picking in the UK

[rigid fjord]

don't care, didn't ask

[tidal geyser]

it is in 1:1

[glad gale]

when its set to € it says taxes included, shipping calculated at checkout, when its set to anything else it says taxes and shipping calculated at checkout. but at checkout it does calculate shipping but not taxes. this combined with it being shoppify based just likes lttstore leads me to believe i will have to pay taxes when it arrives in the post

[charred knot]

what is

[solar moat]

uclk=mclk

[glad gale]

altough paying in euros is even cheaper and they "include taxes"

[charred knot]

so how bad is it

[solar moat]

not good

[charred knot]

i dont understand what im lookingg at, i just dont see 5000 i know it sbad

[cold skiff]

1:1 at 2500mhz is rough though

[tidal geyser]

its DDR

double data rate

as in 2500MHz is 5000MT

[charred knot]

oh so it is good?

[grizzled frost]

5000MT/s*

[tidal geyser]

cant do math

[grizzled frost]

if i can bloody type correctly

[cold skiff]

Holy Christ.

Says he built his own server. Doesn’t understand basic math.

[tidal geyser]

you are meant to do 6000MT

[glad gale]

knowing shoppify i might have to pay when i recieve the package anyways because they are unable to report it properly to the goberment. it hurts the frugal in me i might just not bother

[tidal geyser]

wat

[charred knot]

but im only doing 5000 right

[cold skiff]

Yes

[tidal geyser]

yes that is the issue

[charred knot]

how large is the difference in performance if ddr3 was doing 3600 max 3 years ago

[tidal geyser]

if you are frugal you are not buying from ltt store

[charred knot]

what the fuck even is mts i should start with

[winged sky]

[charred knot]

i know how to build, not so much operational language

[grizzled frost]

MegaTransfers per second

[solar moat]

ddr5 6000 is good on that cpu

[winged sky]

This is gonna be fun

[charred knot]

so get 2x64 sticks?

[glad gale]

i may allow myself to buy something that is not great value but buying the same exact thing for a higher price for absolutely no reasons is more difficult

[cold skiff]

Wait. You’ve got 64gb ram.

And you’re asking if you should get 128gb instead?

[tidal geyser]

yes

or just take out 2 of your sticks

[charred knot]

okay, and since it’s only one memory lane it doesn’t bog the CPU as much? even tho it’s more ram?

[cold skiff]

Sell those 4 sticks. Buy a 2dimm set of 64 or 128. Whatever you want.

[tidal geyser]

wat

[solar moat]

2dpc sucks hard

[tidal geyser]

huh

[solar moat]

its not the GB amount

[grizzled frost]

ddr3 could do up to 2133MT/s, ddr4 would be required for 3600, though ddr4 can get up to 5200MT/s

[tidal geyser]

consumer cpus only have 2 channels

[charred knot]

gotchya

[tidal geyser]

its why 4 sticks is so bad

[solar moat]

ddr3 was able to go higher

like i was doing 2667

[tidal geyser]

each slot is not a channel

[cold skiff]

What are you even using all that ram for? Does it ever max out or use most of it? Just rip 2 of the sticks out and go xmp

[solar moat]

till i mixed rma

[grizzled frost]

ah there was XMP up to 3000

[charred knot]

so this is good? or is 6400 too high

[tidal geyser]

xd

[solar moat]

6400 offen dose not work

and its corshit

[cold skiff]

Do you actually need 64gb ram?

[cold skiff]

Or 128gb?

[charred knot]

i would like to play cities skylines with lots of mods

[grizzled frost]

what is the max amount of ram usage you've seen?

[cold skiff]

What is this and how can I get on it

[charred knot]

all

but some of it is being used for GPU

[grizzled frost]

what

[charred knot]

shared memory

[cold skiff]

My head hurts

[grizzled frost]

do you have an IGPU?

[grizzled frost]

or are you using an IGPU?

[cold skiff]

What are you using that PC to do?

[charred knot]

no, your ram can act as a weird vram

[tidal geyser]

shitty shitty vram

[grizzled frost]

only if you run out of VRAM, and it sucks

[abstract wigeon]

deleted vortex guess im not playing skyrim for a while

[charred knot]

yes but vram none the less

[tidal geyser]

its more for not crashing over performance

get a 3090 or something if you need vram

[charred knot]

yeah it’s why i push 56GB of vram on my xtx Lol

[abstract wigeon]

i can manually install everything apart from dyndolod i cant find a manual install tutorial anywhere for it everyone just using vortex

[cold skiff]

Oh holy Christ

[grizzled frost]

Doing what?

[cold skiff]

He’s doing LLMs

[tidal geyser]

that is called a memory leak

[grizzled frost]

so he's really bad at doing LLMs

the moment the model leaks out of VRAM the performance hits the floor

[charred knot]

it’s not by need basis it just allocates a certain amount of the ram not used to the gpu

[cold skiff]

He’s just taking the RAM on the GPU to try and use the processing power of the GPU

[charred knot]

also i dont do LLMs on my personal rig what

[cold skiff]

Faking not taking

[charred knot]

i have a secondary pc where i’m not doing this stupid shit

[cold skiff]

You said this was a server pc not your personal rig

[charred knot]

just a 7800x3d and 64 gigs across two sticks

[cold skiff]

Now I am really confused what you are trying to achieve

[grizzled frost]

again, what were you doing where it used 56gbs of "vram"

[tidal geyser]

server with a XTX

[tidal geyser]

skylines 2

[charred knot]

no that’s my rig

[grizzled frost]

cities: skylines 2 isn't that VRAM intensive

[charred knot]

no it’s just automatically allocating it

it’s not because it needs it, it just shows up as space that can be used

[grizzled frost]

So you just don't know correct terminology in the slightest

[cold skiff]

I need someone to translate what’s going on here

[charred knot]

gpu load could be 4% and it will show vram usage plus the space on ram allocates

[cold skiff]

Wait

[charred knot]

Correct!

[cold skiff]

Holy shit. Does he think preallocated windows ram is being used on his gpu?

[winged sky]

@charred knot simple question. What are you doing with this machine. What do you want this machine to do. Why do you want this machine to be this way

[charred knot]

No indont

[grizzled frost]

he thinks it's being used on his DGPU

[charred knot]

no

[sinful cobalt]

ive just read whatever context he gave and it sounds like he’s either high or drugs or just drunk asf

[charred knot]

i don’t use my igpu

[charred knot]

i’m tired it’s 7 am

[cold skiff]

He said your dgpu

[sinful cobalt]

56GB vram on a XTX is insane

[charred knot]

I’m aware the ram isn’t being used at my vram i just think it’s funny it likes to show the metric with it

[cold skiff]

You’re using a fkn XTX. You’re never running out of vram except LLMs

[grizzled frost]

24gb of vram, and 32gb of pure confusion

[sinful cobalt]

bro shoved a 32gb stick up his xtx

[grizzled frost]

bro has that one weird GPU that supports a DIMM slot

[charred knot]

i actually added more memory modules when i was in china

[cold skiff]

I don’t think he knows much about much and he should just remove the 2 dimms and he’ll be happier jn life

[charred knot]

what i need is working ram

[tidal geyser]

is it used

[cold skiff]

Then remove 2 fkn dimms

[winged sky]

I think everyone here is just confusing the shit out of eachother at this rate

[charred knot]

even with 2 dimms only, amd expo would crash after about 5 mins

[glad gale]

whats this all about? i bought 2x8gb vengeance lpx ddr4 some years ago

[charred knot]

it’s all new

[tidal geyser]

use slot 2 and 4

[charred knot]

yes i found that out the moment i built it the first time

[sinful cobalt]

why 2 and 4 and not 6 and 9

[tidal geyser]

the ram, as in is it used as in does it show its being used

[grizzled frost]

get out

[cold skiff]

This is exactly why 6 is afraid of 7

[charred knot]

i’m not sure, but when i would go in bios and enable it would show 6000 mts and then randomly while doing somthing my pc would shutdown and reboot

[sinful cobalt]

what if 9 eats 7 instead

[charred knot]

on 2 dimms
2x16. idk my terminology

[tidal geyser]

wa

update the bios and try again and make sure its expo you are using

[charred knot]

i did thru GCC and did enable EXPO 1

same issue presented

[winged sky]

Wtf.... where are their faces!?

[cold skiff]

The lawsuit was paid out. I’m signing up to this.

[tidal geyser]

that just yea causes issues

[cold skiff]

Ah you have to be a US citizen.

[charred knot]

what was the lawsuit about

cuz like my ram broken where my money

[cold skiff]

Basically Corsair advertised memory speed incorrectly

[tidal geyser]

warship lagging

[charred knot]

god i need a better case. i neeed like 2000 bucks and i can watercool

[tidal geyser]

imagine if that is what he is happening here

[tidal geyser]

watercool a 7800X3D

[charred knot]

if i’m water cooling it’s on a 7950x3d

[cold skiff]

Well technically the lawsuit is wrong but technically it’s also correct

[winged sky]

They forgot the 'ᵘᵖ ᵗᵒ'

[solar moat]

its shit cpu

[cold skiff]

We should do this in Europe. They paid out in America

[charred knot]

worse then the 7800x3d?

[solar moat]

they not much wrose ten anyone elss

[grizzled frost]

in gaming, yes

[solar moat]

yes

[charred knot]

what’s the most powerful consumer cpu for gaming

[grizzled frost]

9800x3d

[solar moat]

9800x3d

[charred knot]

oh wow i own one

[solar moat]

or 14900k if you like intel

[cold skiff]

They’re not but hey…. It will change things.

[grizzled frost]

that ain't the most powerful though

[charred knot]

i should put it in my main rig, put the 7900x in the other build

[tidal geyser]

well only like 7800X3D levels

[solar moat]

400W

[tidal geyser]

2 6 core cpus

[grizzled frost]

dual socket am5

[sinful cobalt]

it will never use 400w in gaming

[tidal geyser]

well single socket

[solar moat]

yes

[cold skiff]

Remember the dual socket amd days lol

[charred knot]

so i should get a dual socket motherboard and use both my CPUS

[tidal geyser]

old

[solar moat]

i not that old

[charred knot]

does that even exist lo

[sinful cobalt]

im gonna use those 400w and blow ur ass off instead 💥 💥 💥

[tidal geyser]

am5 cant do dual socket

[solar moat]

scard

[winged sky]

Nah nah you gotta get that dual socket EPYC

[cold skiff]

Was only like 15 years ago or so

[rigid fjord]

you mean opteron ?

[grizzled frost]

not enough PCIE on AM5 for dual socket

[cold skiff]

Aye that was what it was called opteron

[tidal geyser]

wat

[charred knot]

so i should swap my spare 7800x3d into my rig which currently has a 7900x?

[grizzled frost]

you need PCIE for the inter-CPU connection

[tidal geyser]

for gaming yes

[tidal geyser]

do they not just use DMI links?

[charred knot]

how much more of a performance percentage would i gain in gaming?

[rigid fjord]

amd server cpu's and mobo's, doing both dual and quad slots

[tidal geyser]

uh

[grizzled frost]

DMI is intel proprietary

[tidal geyser]

not a thing

[tidal geyser]

dam

[cold skiff]

I remember there was a consumer board too

[winged sky]

Oh shit I thought it was something else for dual socket. I didnt know PCIE was used for that

[charred knot]

would the 7900x be better for things like video editing versus the 7800x3d

[tidal geyser]

not a thing

[cold skiff]

It may be AM+ I can’t really remember

[winged sky]

Wuh..

[tidal geyser]

also mate das a 2 year old cpu

[grizzled frost]

it's why dual socket systems don't have 2x the pcie of single socket

[sinful cobalt]

7850x3d damn i didnt know we had 10 core cpus

[charred knot]

typo

[winged sky]

Fair point. Ive never had the cash for a system like that so its one of my tech blindspots lol

[gleaming rose]

bump because I need opinions

[winged sky]

...wuh....

[cold skiff]

Can’t wait for the 7700x3d

[grizzled frost]

like on the newest epyc platform, single socket is 128 pcie lanes, dual socket is 192

[charred knot]

that’s so silly the 7800x3d is better then the 7900x3d

[winged sky]

That would be an instant deal breaker for me

[cold skiff]

Well it’s not silly

[tidal geyser]

6 core X3D vs 8'

[cold skiff]

It’s just basic math

[rigid fjord]

not amd, and that was an intel board, either hedt or server based

[gleaming rose]

I can get the faster power adapter to alleviate it

[grizzled frost]

when 6 cores shares the same amount of l3 cache as 8 cores

[gleaming rose]

it only gets like 6h of battery life

[solar moat]

and dont have to deal with other ccd messing up

[gleaming rose]

but it's higher performance compared to others

I'm more concerned about the mechanical touchpad - though I've never used anything but mechanical

Apparently if you click left and then right it'll be slightly higher pitched

[rigid fjord]

not 220+ lanes?

[charred knot]

okay i will swap my CPUs then and get 2 newer sticks of ram

[grizzled frost]

nope

[charred knot]

that should make my pc build solid

[rigid fjord]

considering highest cored epyc is 192c

[charred knot]

and a new case cuz the 510 flow sucks i guess

[solar moat]

best aprt you can pick wih some of the price lain if you dont want more IO to use them for more cpu to cpu bandwith

[gleaming rose]

fuck it I'm going to just buy it

I'll list my PC tonight

[rigid fjord]

hmm, so a large chunk used for interconnect between cpu's

[tidal geyser]

aint it 256

no it was 192C

[meager coyote]

For 2P EPYC configurations there's actually multiple PCIe layouts

[tidal geyser]

it is compact cores tho

[meager coyote]

You can have 128, 160 or 192 lane configurations depending on how much inter-cpu bandwidth you want

[tidal geyser]

128 for full fat ones

[winged sky]

All your cores are belong to us

[charred knot]

who need this much mts

[solar moat]

its very much good

[charred knot]

i thought 6400 was unstable

isn’t this like. even way more unstable

[rigid fjord]

192c 384t currently, and it takes 3 xeon cpu's to almost match it

[solar moat]

welp ddr5 6000 to 6400 is limit for 1;1 on ryzen 7000/9000

[rigid fjord]

only on amd, intel it differs

[solar moat]

2:1 on ryzebn 7000/9000 offen able to do upto ddr5 8000 and intel rapotor lake can do upto around ddr5 8000 arrow lake can do more alder lake can do less

[charred knot]

okay so don’t buy anything above 6000 got it

[grizzled frost]

correct

[solar moat]

if you just using xmp dont go over ddr5 6000

on your r9 7900x

[charred knot]

well i might switch it out with my other cpu the 7800x3d since yall said its better

[rigid fjord]

would have thought they could use less lanes but at higher bandwidth to do the same kind of thing

[solar moat]

yes they did do that when they got pcie gen4 the cut the lains by 25% but still getting 50% more bandwith

[meager coyote]

7900x vs 7800x3d depends on your workload

[solar moat]

but they gave option for just getting 2x the bandwith with all the lains

[meager coyote]

If the task you are doing can use alot of cores, isn't sensitive to cache & doesn't fall over when crossing CCDs then the 7900x can be better

[rigid fjord]

more like 7700x vs 7800x3d depending on gaming or not

[charred knot]

it’s that a Rails unlimited dev

[rigid fjord]

7800x3d > 7700x for gaming
7700x > 7800x3d for production

[charred knot]

i literally haven’t seen that game referenced in like 4 years

i went to college and graduated since i’ve last heard of it

[tidal geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1027254750724505721.gif?size=48

[orchid perch]

finally built my pc and installed windows and stuff, but file explorer only shows 1 drive (i only have 1 ssd). ideally shouldnt there be a partition?

[tidal geyser]

Disk managment

[vale reef]

aww mate nvidia needs to get their act together my stocks are dropping

[orchid perch]

can u tell me what i should do pls its my first time

[winged sky]

LOL

[true adder]

I think the question here is have YOU made a partition?

[winged sky]

Once that AI bubble pops, be prepared for it to tank

[orchid perch]

no someone earlier told me not to during the setup

[vale reef]

will it be bad as the nvidia connector melter though

[orchid perch]

here

[true adder]

I'm in an AI data center rn

[winged sky]

Uhhhhhh I think it will be far worse

[true adder]

Should I destroy it all lets see what happens to stocks ||(joke btw)||

[winged sky]

Piss on their servers and see which chatbots go down

[true adder]

Copilot

[orchid perch]

should i make one now?

[true adder]

Yeah you could

[orchid perch]

i mean ideally i should right so i can reinstall windows if ever required?

[winged sky]

Ah, you wouldnt notice then cause nobody uses that one

[orchid perch]

without losing all my stuff

[true adder]

Real haha

[true adder]

Uhhh i believe you have to format the whole drive to reinstall windows

So no. But im not fully sure

[glad gale]

whats up with amd rz616 wifi 6e chips? there was a bunch of issues, has that been solved or is it still to be avoided?

[swift stream]

for everyone wondering now is the best time to collect orbs in the quest menu

[rigid fjord]

that 1 drive is the partition, you don't need to create any more on that ssd

[rigid fjord]

no, that's where a usb thumb drive is worth it

[orchid perch]

but then the OS and everything else is gonna be in 1 place

[rigid fjord]

this is why you have a completely separate drive instead

[orchid perch]

im confused just tell me what i should do

[rigid fjord]

nothing, just install what you need onto the current ssd

[orchid perch]

and later if i have to reinstall windows or something?

[rigid fjord]

minus the 4tb drive, each of these have a single partiton

[rigid fjord]

you save up and get a second drive

at a much larger capacity

music, storage, pics and videos ar 4 partitions on the 4tb drive

[orchid perch]

just tell me that if i have 1 ssd, should i or should i not create a partition and keep windows on it, with everything else separated

[winged sky]

Wtf

[orchid perch]

wow nice solution

[winged sky]

And i thought I had a lot of drives XD

[rigid fjord]

i just did, you keep the drive as is, do not try to modify it with a second partition

[orchid perch]

can i ask why not

[rigid fjord]

if the ssd gets corrupted you'll lose everything anyways and have to redo it all

you want a separate drive in total to keep your OS from anything else

[rigid fjord]

it's the proper solution

os on a low-ish capacity drive no bigger than 500gb, games and whatever on a larger 2tb+ drive

[orchid perch]

is that a risk of creating a partition

otherwise its irrelevant because without a partition the ssd being corrupted will have the same effect

[rigid fjord]

ffs, have you installed windows already?

[orchid perch]

yes

[rigid fjord]

then you do not need to modify the drive at all ever, you get a second drive and place games etc on that, while the OS drive only holds the OS, Drivers and MAIN game launchers

[winged sky]

I need to up my drive to 500gb, my poor 250gb ssd is fighting for its life at less than 20gb till full

[rigid fjord]

literally never has anything other than the OS, Drivers and MAIN launchers for games

[rigid fjord]

you could clean it up some, but yeah, a 500gb drive costs the same as a 256gb drive as it is, so better off going 500gb for OS drives

[gleaming rose]

https://psref.lenovo.com/Product/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_T1g_Gen_8
I bet this is gonna be like $5000
I want it so bad tho

[rigid fjord]

these literally just only hold the games i play @orchid perch

each of which are completely separate drives on my mobo

[winged sky]

I got the ssd back when it was still like 50 bucks for a 250gb one

[gleaming rose]

nevermind it could be reasonably priced

[winged sky]

So its definitely due for an upgrade

[gleaming rose]

I'm going to wait for its launch to see if I can afford it before buying any laptops.

[winged sky]

Also ive tried cleaning it, its a bandaid solution since I just have a ton of programs

[rigid fjord]

1.7-3k easily

[gleaming rose]

I mean I'm pretty much looking at the max config

64gig, 5070, and the tandem oled

[winged sky]

I do need to go through and get rid of some I dont use though

[gleaming rose]

I'm hoping that I'll be looking at like $2,500.

Because it's CAMM2, I might be able to buy the 32 gig model and then upgrade later if I decide I need it.

[rigid fjord]

it is, but tbf there's a ton of temp files not in the temp folder still stored on the OS drive

[gleaming rose]

Sometimes you can ask the support reps for discounts.

[tidal geyser]

im 120$ richer from this thing

[winged sky]

Yeaaaaaaa I need to do an actual deep clean soon, ive been going through with windrstat and prowling for things to wipe

[rigid fjord]

noice

[tidal geyser]

well more like 110$ as the fan cost like that and the ssd was just spare so we do not count that

i love free stuff

[rigid fjord]

amd/nvidia are known for this with driver updates

[winged sky]

True, thats why I DDU almost every time I install new gpu drivers. But I know even that won't get absolutely everything

[rigid fjord]

8gb in temp files being removed for myself 🤣

[winged sky]

Jesus

[rigid fjord]

6gb is just windows updates stuff

[tidal geyser]

cant uninstall the security update now

[winged sky]

RIP SSD

[tidal geyser]

the update did nothing to any consumer SSDs

well public consumer SSDs

[cold skiff]

I had an “affected” SSD

It wasn’t affected though

[grizzled frost]

I imagine they were overstating it a bit to be safe

[tidal geyser]

i think it was just beta firmware for only some controllers and then too only when they were under heavy load

[cold skiff]

Jayz2cents giving his 99cents scaring people worse than the news

[winged sky]

I mean, he has a point though

[grizzled frost]

i find it hard to even watch jayz2cents given how much nonsense he spouts

[cold skiff]

He didn’t have to post 90 videos about it though (I mean hey it was 2 but still)

[tidal geyser]

90?

[cold skiff]

You should watch eccentric it’s worse

Pccentric *

[tidal geyser]

UBM youtube channel

[cold skiff]

ubm?

[tidal geyser]

userbenchmarks

[winged sky]

Tbf ive only recently started watching him again, he used to be alright

[cold skiff]

Basically

I correct him all the time and then a few days later he edits videos

[winged sky]

UBM....

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[rigid fjord]

if you want to see trash, could always watch ztt

[tidal geyser]

https://www.youtube.com/c/UserBenchmarks

i meant the channel UBM

[cold skiff]

I tried… once

[tidal geyser]

like the actual UBM channel

[cold skiff]

Oh that’s so old

[grizzled frost]

i hate how many people still use UBM

[cold skiff]

Even the owner gave up

[tidal geyser]

people keep trying to defend him

[cold skiff]

Userbwnchmark is still relevant for CPUs form 2009 and before

[winged sky]

ztt?

[cold skiff]

Zach tech tips

[winged sky]

Wait didnt he do a video with Linus recently?

I still need to watch it

[cold skiff]

I cant tell if companies pay him to be dumb or he is dumb

[winged sky]

Thats what they call stupid money

[rigid fjord]

i hope not, ztt is a clown show, the dude recommends bottleneck and psu calculators to be used

[winged sky]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-carell-the-office-yikes-this-is-the-worst-cringe-gif-21219465

O wait

[winged sky]

Found it:
https://youtu.be/se9HT9At0fI?si=TT5A_g7x9ztwgD-k

[winged sky]

No thoughts, head empty, dead inside

[tidal geyser]

na

he is thinking about how to scam even more children

[winged sky]

Wouldn't surprise me

I didnt even know who that was till now

[left dove]

just have one partition with root folder separation 😭

[tidal geyser]

he did not even pay for his flight

[left dove]

because he spends all his money on his second mortage prob

[exotic valley]

is 4070ti super the equivalent for 9070xt or 5070ti?

[tidal geyser]

you have already been told the answer

aka no

its a distance away

[exotic valley]

not in terms of pricing though

[tidal geyser]

you never said it

[exotic valley]

9070xt brand new at $600

used 4070ti super at $650

[craggy cove]

??? tf is this case

[exotic valley]

used 5070ti at $950

[tidal geyser]

iv had one of those before

[tidal geyser]

what country

[exotic valley]

mainland China

[craggy cove]

30 dollars new for an atx case with 4 rgb fans... what can go wrong?

[tidal geyser]

unless you NEED CUDA or any of the nvidia stuff i would go for the 9070 xt easy

[exotic valley]

AMD cards are dirt cheap here however nvidia ones are kinda pricey

[tidal geyser]

molex fans

[cold skiff]

Wait in China

[craggy cove]

confirmed

[cold skiff]

Isn’t the 5070ti effectively banned for export to China?

[craggy cove]

but the used market is so dry rn i thought why not

[tidal geyser]

no i do not think so

[exotic valley]

not really, 5090 is banned for the export

[craggy cove]

i have a left over 3070 and 5600 combo

[tidal geyser]

the RT performance on the 9070 xt is close to that of the 4070 ti super acording to TPU

[cold skiff]

I thought they banned the 70ti/80 and 90

[exotic valley]

anything below is fine but we couldn't get them at MSRP

we can always get AMD cards at a price below MSRP though

often much cheaper than the MSRP

but people dont really like them

[cold skiff]

That’s why they are cheaper

[exotic valley]

intel cards are kinda inexistent here

[tidal geyser]

more performance for less, why not

[craggy cove]

i had a left over 240mm aio i was planning to use but rip to that

i can mount it? but uhh idk how airflow works here

[exotic valley]

lots people here care about productivity thats why im also quite hestitant about going AMD

[tidal geyser]

are you buying for lots of people?

[cold skiff]

I heard in China, no one has even seen an intel gpu in person

[exotic valley]

for me personally i need to heavily utilize its encoders/decorders, and AFAIK, 4070ti super got 2 dedicated encoders and one decorder

in the same time, 9070xt only has two encoders/decoders

[tidal geyser]

wat

[cold skiff]

So the 9070xt has more?

What’s the problem

[exotic valley]

nah, it has two in total, and 4070ti super has 3 in total

[tidal geyser]

i swear nvidia only started doing that with 5000

[tidal geyser]

huh

where are you getting this info from

[exotic valley]

non AI reputable source

[tidal geyser]

that is not a link

[gloomy sleet]

did my first day as a teacher today

[cold skiff]

Sucks to be you

[cold skiff]

Kids are the worst

[exotic valley]

dual media engine

[gloomy sleet]

the entire day it felt like i should have been on the other side of my desk

[cold skiff]

How did it go?

[gloomy sleet]

like it genuinely felt like i was meant to be a student lol

[plain cypress]

Based

[cold skiff]

You’ll get used to it

[cold skiff]

Just think yourself lucky you’ll never teach any of my kids

[exotic valley]

and 4070 ti super has two encoders and one decoder

[tidal geyser]

would it matter then

both have 2 encoders

[cold skiff]

Only if he wants NVENC

If it’s AV1 then AMD

[tidal geyser]

nvenc does not do much anymore

h264 has gotten a MASSIVE boost on amd with 9000

[exotic valley]

in addition, AMD kinda offers subpar AI performance (i use stable diffusion) across the board and sometimes i train small AI models for light projects

[cold skiff]

Oh and I am assuming quality matters here

[gloomy sleet]

not horribly i didnt actually teach chemistry i was mostly just helping kids (inaccurate term since theyre all like 16-19) find where theyre meant to be

[cold skiff]

So basically you can ant Nvidia for AI

[exotic valley]

9000 series offers encoding capabilities on par with NVENC i think

[cold skiff]

That is all you need to say

[tidal geyser]

so you already have chosen the gpu

[exotic valley]

i have done extensive research and reached this conclusion

[exotic valley]

yeh, i went 4070ti super for its superb dlss4 support

[gloomy sleet]

i did have to do an hour of just various basic scientific tests to make sure the students in my class are actually meant for the class but other then that it was a very calm day

[exotic valley]

i want to play black myth wukong and it offers a higher framerate for that game.

[tidal geyser]

well a rtx 2050 laptop also has dlss 4

[exotic valley]

and some titles such as wuthering waves, genshin impact, valorant

[exotic valley]

true, not looking at their raster performance, i would say by the technology itself, dlss4 has a better support for games than fsr4

[tidal geyser]

aint 2 of those mobile games and the last one is lighter than a lot of mobile games

[exotic valley]

due to the fact that there are more nvidia partners with game studios than AMD

[rigid fjord]

intel

[gloomy sleet]

intel is just insane for encoding

[exotic valley]

their optimzation isn't really good on PC, so NVIDA is often better supported and offers better framerates

[tidal geyser]

but genshin i know for a fact is locked at 60 fps??

[gloomy sleet]

there is mods to unlock it

[exotic valley]

not really, AMD kinda downgraded its AV1 quality for the 9000 series and it performs worse than 7000 series.

[exotic valley]

you can technically unlock it so

[tidal geyser]

to 120 aint it

[exotic valley]

so it would be the safest bet to go NVIDIA if you really wanna go for the best encoding quality

[exotic valley]

yeh, and my monitor runs at 4K 144hz so i think 4070ti super might be enough

[tidal geyser]

still a mobile game

[tidal geyser]

if you can tell a difference then wow

[cosmic idol]

genshin impact 😔

[tidal geyser]

but due to the other stuff just go 4070 ti super

[exotic valley]

i was using gtx 1080 for this "mobile" game and got abysmal result

[gloomy sleet]

amds encoding is perfectly fine for like 90% of people

[tidal geyser]

99.99

[exotic valley]

the chinese game studio clearly didnt put all their RD budget on optimization i figure

[exotic valley]

yeah, thats true for the 9000 series

[tidal geyser]

were you plugged into the gpu

[gloomy sleet]

1080 is a 8 year old card iirc

[exotic valley]

i literally major in computer engineering

[gloomy sleet]

thats still a valid question

[brave brook]

still can't believe police actually found dad's stolen phone (it was stolen on friday), hopefully it is in same shape as when it was stolen. Will have to return to the store the replacement phone i bought for him, but oh well, some money back 🙂

[rigid fjord]

if i wanted hevc, amd is better at it than nvidia

[exotic valley]

thats true and thats the reason why i upgraded it

[gleaming rose]

on the nz site it's $5000nzd so like $3000usd but I'm hoping they'll drop it when it launches

[exotic valley]

so now i can sell my gtx1080 at $50

available at mainland china only though

[gloomy sleet]

guys opinions on using a 65% keyboard for work

[tidal geyser]

what

[gloomy sleet]

i was using my silent lk67 for work today

basically everyone told me that a 65% just isnt good for work apparently

[rigid fjord]

dumb when alt codes are needed to provide the symbols for science equations

[gloomy sleet]

i have an FN key

[rigid fjord]

still dumb

[gloomy sleet]

disagree

i couldnt even fit a full size in my bag lol

[exotic valley]

9070xt uses Navi4x GPU for video encoding

[gleaming rose]

they can't charge that much for that hardware

[rigid fjord]

hevc is amd's strong point for a long time

[gloomy sleet]

i wonder how the a310 works there

[exotic valley]

NAVI 4X is really good at HEVC ngl and often better than 40 series nvidia card

[tidal geyser]

well orange

[gloomy sleet]

same encoder as an a770?

i did not in fact know that

[exotic valley]

NAVI 4x is more of a downgrade to the AMD 7000 series for AV1 encoding though

9000 series AMD cards suck at AV1

worse than its predecessor

[loud iris]

hey you guys
do yall know how i can make a 2nd desktop with no icons and make it look completely new for recordings? i dont wanna make a whole vm just for this
im just recording a course and im going to sell it and i dont want any personal details to be leaked or given away
i tried using a second desktop through windows but it seems like everything moves with it

[tidal geyser]

what 3-4% worse?

[gloomy sleet]

absolutely tiny difference btw

like literally maybe half a second irl

[gloomy sleet]

5 point difference

[exotic valley]

it depends on the type of the contents. its alot worse for static content

[tidal geyser]

again like 4% worse than last gen

[exotic valley]

yeah, fine for most people

[tidal geyser]

i would never be able to tell a difference there

[exotic valley]

still a huge upgrade from the 7000 series in terms of video encoding, actually competing with NVENC now

[tidal geyser]

it was still before

[exotic valley]

7000 series kinda sucks ngl

[tidal geyser]

it was just h264 where amd died

[tidal geyser]

well no

the XTX is still dam close to the 4090 for some stuff

4090"

[jaunty apex]

I'm still liking my rx 6700. Im not really sure how great the encoding is, I gotta compress the fuck out of my videos to send them here anyway

[azure topaz]

i think i have

65% is not quite as small as 60% but has the arrow keys and home cluster right

[tidal geyser]

i got a keyboard like that for 25$

[exotic valley]

for 7000 series.
its AI performance is much worse than 9070xt.
RT is bad, generations behind NVIDIA and 9070xt.
Video Encoding is bad, and not generally recommended for streaming.
Rasterization performs similarly to 9070xt
doesn't support FSR4 (not future proof)

[jaunty apex]

The entirety of 7000 series?

[azure topaz]

yes

[tidal geyser]

" Video Encoding is bad, and not generally recommended for streaming."

[exotic valley]

its really hard to recommend 7000 series cards now

[tidal geyser]

it supports FSR4

[azure topaz]

i mean i wouldnt buy them but not for that reason

[azure topaz]

poorly

[exotic valley]

i thought it supports FSR 3.1

[azure topaz]

you can force it to run fsr4

[tidal geyser]

officially

[rigid fjord]

buying based on RT is domb tbh, also future proofing doesn't exist

[azure topaz]

its not good

[exotic valley]

i mean, it kinda lacks the hardware for running fsr4 well though

[azure topaz]

even a 7800xt will have bad performance

[jaunty apex]

[exotic valley]

7000 series doesnt resemble a modern product, but more like gtx 1090ti super

[tidal geyser]

amd is more than fine for streaming its only h264 it has issues with so old twitch but i think they should be rolling out h265 streaming on it or already did, while most other ok platforms already have been doing AV1 and H265 for a while like youtube

[exotic valley]

generations behind on modern features

and 9000 series improved on all it lacks

became actually modern enough for recommendation

[tidal geyser]

you just showed graphs of current gen being worse at some stuff?

[jaunty apex]

AV1 bad

[azure topaz]

av1 good what

[ebon marlin]

Av1 bad h264 good

[tidal geyser]

MPEG

[jaunty apex]

context

[cold skiff]

For what video encoding?

[exotic valley]

yeh and maybe they can make some firmware upgrade for 9070xt so that its AV1 performance doesn't regress from the 7000 series

[azure topaz]

no

[winged sky]

MPREG

[tidal geyser]

FSR4

[exotic valley]

its alot easier for me to recommend 9070xt than 7900xt just you know

[cold skiff]

Oh yeah that’s true

[azure topaz]

5070ti

[tidal geyser]

one is also 2 years old

[cold skiff]

Tbh the 7800xt video encoding isn’t great either tbh

[tidal geyser]

like 400$ more spensive where he is

[cold skiff]

It’s passable

[tidal geyser]

its more than fine

wtf

[exotic valley]

2 years old and not counting how many years behind of modern technologies

[azure topaz]

2 years ago fsr4 didnt exist

[cold skiff]

For streaming it’s passable

[tidal geyser]

wat

[azure topaz]

2 years ago av1 performance couldnt have been worse

[jaunty apex]

Meanwhile 8gb cards

[exotic valley]

yeh pretty much

[azure topaz]

2 years ago the 9070xt didnt exist so its raster performance is irrelevant

2 years ago, the 7000 series was new

[tidal geyser]

rx 9000 added so much stuff that only really was needed at the point in time it was made

[cold skiff]

AV1 is fine on 7800xt but no one really uses it

[jaunty apex]

I mean if you want AV1 specifically intel still exists

[tidal geyser]

rx 7000 was made when almost nothing even had RT and upscaling was horrible anyways

well RDNA 3

[azure topaz]

dlss was great do not diss my dlss

[tidal geyser]

DLSS 2?

also forgot RDNA 3 was 3 years ago launch

and i would imagine they started working on it a GOOOOD few years before launch

[exotic valley]

AMD didnt really consider the important for FG and upscaling back then and that was clearly a bad choice i think. And they didnt equip their older generations with proper hardware to improve on the future with FSR4

[tidal geyser]

but amd has just had issues with FP16 and them other "AI" features since they were not the leader in that field

[exotic valley]

their focus is misdirected i would say from what gamers actually care for back then

[azure topaz]

yes, you forgor dlss3 wasnt a huge imrovement

past 2, the DLSS improvements are noticable but minor

[tidal geyser]

i swear DLSS 3 was a major step up

[azure topaz]

getting transformer was sick

[jaunty apex]

I personally don't care at all about frame gen or upscaling rn tbh

[azure topaz]

DLSS2 is when they stopped training it off a game by game basis

[grizzled frost]

you’re in the minority on that

[tidal geyser]

wat

what is the nr.1 reason most people say when they go amd

[jaunty apex]

I mean I have like prob 4 UE5 games so

[exotic valley]

as far as i know, rtx 3080 is released in 2020, and AMD still couldn't make a good card that can run FSR4 well in 2022 when they released 7900xt

[tidal geyser]

better at raster for the price

[tidal geyser]

a rtx 2050 can run DLSS 4?

[exotic valley]

i mentioned 30 series, not 20

[tidal geyser]

mate nvidia only sells GPUs

no shit their focus is on trying to make them as good as they can

[azure topaz]

they all get transformer

[tidal geyser]

DLSS upscaling is just a model

[azure topaz]

transformer jsut doesnt run awesome on all of the things that it is supported on

[tidal geyser]

ofc

[jaunty apex]

Nvidia has been a leader for a long time, we've known AMD to be playing catchup on the GPU side for a while. That's never been news really

[exotic valley]

yeh AMD is impressive in a sense that produces consumer level CPUs and GPUs however the fact doesn't make their GPUs competitive and you dont gain that much running both an AMD CPU and an AMD GPU

[azure topaz]

their gpus are ass

[tidal geyser]

no

[azure topaz]

errmmm

[tidal geyser]

again the place he is the 5070 ti is almost 1k while a 9070 xt is 600

[exotic valley]

i had more compatiblity problems running AMD GPU along side with AMD CPU than NVIDIA GPU with AMD CPU

[tidal geyser]

what issues

[exotic valley]

back then when i had 5700xt

such as micro stutters

[jaunty apex]

I'm on Linux so it would probably be the opposite for me. Also weren't those drivers shaky to start with?

[iron glen]

are the newest 4070 super drivers the most stable or is there some older version thats better?

[tidal geyser]

well

try the latest and hope for the best is how nvidia is

[iron glen]

damn 😔

[exotic valley]

i used to be daily driving gentoo for several years however later gave up on linux desktop altogether

[tidal geyser]

at least amd drivers did not tend to black screen 10 year old cards

[jaunty apex]

Lol sounds like the quest too.

[azure topaz]

my roommates 7800xt black screened 3 times in 1 day

[iron glen]

xd
alr, thanks

[azure topaz]

(aka the 7800xt i used)

[tidal geyser]

my XTX has been so stupid stable

[random gyro]

Would 600W be enough for
Intel B580 12GB
Intel I5 12600KF?

[azure topaz]

ye

[tidal geyser]

what 600w

[rigid fjord]

eh, 25.8.1 has caused some issues with some older cards

[exotic valley]

if i were a hobbist i would choose AMD or intel cards without a question

[jaunty apex]

I've had more issues with my cpu than GPU I think. Every once in a while my PC will panic and restart. Something something microcode in processor 2 or whatever comes up for a second before booting again.

[rigid fjord]

update 25.8.1 ?

[exotic valley]

however now i dont have the time to dedicate to AMD GPUs and Linux desktops anymore

[jaunty apex]

Rare but happens

[tidal geyser]

so do not?

[exotic valley]

i wish AMD can improve on their firmware to make UDNA the actual all rounders and gain back the marketshare

[jaunty apex]

I just had so many problems on windows the past few years I figured I'd be better off solving linux problems since things have gotten better after the deck released

[orchid perch]

apparently the powercolor hellhound 7800xt rgb only has ice blue or amethyst purple, does anyone know what the rgb codes for those would be? cant really find anything online

[tidal geyser]

signalrgb

[azure topaz]

idk

[exotic valley]

welp, i hope the linux desktop is worth the investment of your time

[rigid fjord]

that would be with their software

[exotic valley]

i just dont wanna fight occsionally with the nvidia driver anymore on linux

[orchid perch]

they dont have a software

[jaunty apex]

Year and a half so far, going strong. Got windows on another drive, almost never boot it for any reason

[orchid perch]

which is the surprising part

only a physical switch on the gpu

[exotic valley]

though i still run more than a dozen linux ubuntu serves nowadays

[rigid fjord]

i know it has issues with multiple 7000 series and earlier cards mainly on certain games and can cause driver timeouts on some even older cards

[tidal geyser]

aint google fun

[orchid perch]

bro theres no software

[tidal geyser]

no shit?

[exotic valley]

i would still say im among the most dedicated AMD fans

[exotic valley]

most of my PCs and laptops are running AMD cpus

[tidal geyser]

why fan over a company

[orchid perch]

yeah im asking if anyone knows what the rgb code of the purple is like so i can match my fans with it

[exotic valley]

and right at this moment, the laptop im using is running on an AMD GPU

[tidal geyser]

like they aint gonna start giving you money

[jaunty apex]

I won't buy nvidia again, unless I get a really good deal on a 4070 or smth I have no reason to.

[exotic valley]

to support their future develoment and R&D compartment

so that they have the fund to create better products

[jaunty apex]

Intel I haven't cared about other than their GPU side since Ryzen launched really

[rigid fjord]

seems only the red devils are the only ones allowing to have the rgb controlled

[exotic valley]

now its not looking really good for AMD GPU cuz they are losing market shares quite substantially

[tidal geyser]

but you only bought it since they are some of the best on the market

[exotic valley]

they lost a huge part of their userbase

[jaunty apex]

You sure it isn't just people not buying GPUs?

[exotic valley]

yeh, which proves that my support for them isn't unconditional and quite limited in some sense

they have to do well on their part to earn my support

[orchid perch]

which is a really odd choice by them imo

[edgy holly]

i got a recommendation to yall, do not play my summer car

[rigid fjord]

not really, hellhounds are a lower line, while red devil is the higher line of models

[edgy holly]

it'll take your soul and chew it before spitting it out

[next elbow]

Play nfs Underground 2

[rigid fjord]

nfs carbon>

[orchid perch]

idk if this is really a thing but its my first time seeing that there is rgb but u cant control it. feels like a bitch move to get people to buy more expensive ones

[next elbow]

Carbon online ☝️

[rigid fjord]

not a bitch move, but it's a thing on multiple cards with different manufacturers

[orchid perch]

and ive never thought of checking if something having rgb has a controller for it cuz it feels like a no brainer

[tidal geyser]

really common for this to be the case for gpus

[orchid perch]

ig its mb then

[edgy holly]

mhmmm nah thanks

im busy on NFS heat

its quite fun ngl but godamn

what the actual fuck are they feeding those cops 😭

[haughty compass]

hey idk if im doing something wrong but for some reason google chrome stops responding on my laptop when I go onto ad heavy websites... When I check task manager, it shows that less than 50% of my cpu & ram is being used

[jaunty apex]

Use an adblocker?

[tidal geyser]

use firefox

[haughty compass]

i have adblock & adblock plus

[tidal geyser]

both on at the same time?

[haughty compass]

ive tried but I cant ever stick to them

[tidal geyser]

why

[haughty compass]

its the convenience

[rigid fjord]

use command prompt instead

[ebon marlin]

Amd cards are the only gpus I haven't had any issues with despite owning entirety of 20 series, almost 30 series except 90 tiers, and some 40 series cards like 60 tier and 70 Ti Super

[haughty compass]

ive tried firefox, ive tried operagx, duckduck go

[rigid fjord]

yes, you can access websites via command prompt

[haughty compass]

yep

[tidal geyser]

duckduckgo is not a browser

[ebon marlin]

Search engine yummy

[tidal geyser]

operagx is just chromium

[pale flint]

use edge

become edger

[haughty compass]

it has one

ive downloaded it from their website

[haughty compass]

also tried edge... probably my least fav of them all

[ebon marlin]

Edge is one of the better chromium browsers

[jaunty apex]

Lol

[pale flint]

😂👌

[ebon marlin]

One of the rare few good chromium browsers

[jaunty apex]

Fuck edge

[pale flint]

idk i use edge and amma stuck to it

[tidal geyser]

based on Chromium

[haughty compass]

i literally have like 4k or 5k microsoft points from searching on edge

[pale flint]

didnt like opera gx at all cuz it couldnt translate shit

[jaunty apex]

That's the only reason I used bing when I was younger, for points

[pale flint]

it probably translated english pages to german

[jaunty apex]

Operagx got worse over time

[pale flint]

nah i dont like it

[rigid fjord]

i used msie once, to find a better web browser

[pale flint]

i tried brave as well but on my old laptop

didnt explore much of it so i cant give my pov on it

firefox seems good tbh

[rose stream]

They do have one though for download on their site though.

[pale flint]

idk if any other browser does this or not but edge lets me create miltiple profiles?

[tidal geyser]

i know that is why i said it was chromium

[pale flint]

what is this browser

[mortal mantle]

how the hell did I brick a device and now Windows wants nothing to do with it lol

[carmine yew]

literally they all do

[jaunty apex]

Chrome can with Google logins

[tidal geyser]

well i found out

[jaunty apex]

I think Firefox has them too in a way
On they def do I'm dumb lol

[pale flint]

oh ok i didnt try it onany other browser

[carmine yew]

Edge is just a MS Skin of chromium.

Where do you think all of Edge's features came from

[royal loom]

Telling my GPU it gonna get replaced soon ❤️

[exotic valley]

currently i have 14k points

[rose stream]

DuckDuckGo Browser... Like literally that's it's name, and more than likely is Chromium-based I'm sure. Lol.

[pale flint]

what even is chromium

[exotic valley]

however the more i use microsoft bing the more i detest it

[pale flint]

nice name

[jaunty apex]

Me to my 1660 lol

[haughty compass]

spent a bit of mine a while back on a gift card but have 1.8k rn

[carmine yew]

The engine that makes Chrome, Edge, Brave, and most other internet browsers work

[pale flint]

do not redeem

[pale flint]

ah ok

got it

[exotic valley]

microsoft bing is the epitome of modern bloatware

[jaunty apex]

https://tenor.com/view/do-not-redeem-don't-redeem-scammer-kitboga-do-not-redeem-the-card-gif-10965656260295774557

[rose stream]

Ah- yep. It's Chromium for sure.

[pale flint]

edge* you mean?

[haughty compass]

i remember for awhile I literally just rocked bare chromium 🤣

idek why

[pale flint]

i dont like chrome at all

[exotic valley]

guys when do you think i should upgrade my intel macbook pro to an apple silicon model

[rose stream]

Don't you need to like... Compile bare Chromium to get it to work or were there downloads for a full build that existed somewhere to get?

[wheat torrent]

good? the case?

[jaunty apex]

I loved chromium as a kid lol. They still had like 3D silvery tabs, it was pretty sick

[haughty compass]

tbh not a big fan of it either but google integrations are so convenient 🤤

[pale flint]

whenever you desire

[rose stream]

Mine had one of those cosmos skins.

[rose stream]

Still technically does still last time I retried it (my dad is a Chrome user, so he had me download it on my comp before I rebuilt my brother's old system for homelab purposes that he could use himself).

[pale flint]

internet 👌

[exotic valley]

it still kept me warm from year to year, especially lately when its windy outside. It runs to 85C as soon as I open one youtube page.

performance wise, its as good as the M1 models

[pale flint]

that great, dont switch

[exotic valley]

however space heater wise, nothing beats it

[royal loom]

Wait now that I think about it... Aren't there supposed to be 4 factory seal stickers?...

[tidal geyser]

nope

[pale flint]

what

[royal loom]

Thank god

[distant frigate]

Imagine using an electric heater

[tidal geyser]

almost never ever are

[distant frigate]

Here at the house I’m in I have an old gas furnace. 45 years old