#tech-chat-1
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is the ssd under the standoff?
Yes
Please
someone needs their head examined a little for doing this dude
Na
Bananas
you got the æøå?
så gøy!
Another one
im looking at some hard drives to buy for a nas. unfortunatly serverpartsdeals switch between not delivering or delivering at an outragous price to where i live so im looking at new drives. i just found out the 24tb barracuda consumer grade is a very compelling price. and the specs look mostly good its even CMR. but its only rated for 2400 power on hours or 100 days per year. i probably wont use it more than that but the nas will be powered on 24/7.
Does nas software like hexos shut the drives down after some time of inactivity?
No I think they are just raidz for the most part so no spindown
It says no cable connected
Wat Toshiba are cheaper in Norway and get warranty
Did you connect the display cable to the GPU and is the pc on
Been considering upgrading myself
i just went on prisjakt and sorted by price/tb. a lot of the cheapest ones are toshiba but the 24tb seagate is the cheapest by far
Sim its not working
Pic
i love pcpartpicker but 90% of the stuff is amazon and newegg
Top right, press on the flag |:
how did i not notice that button before
Pain
Man why wont it work
Take some more pics and make sure the cable is fully inserted at both ends, display cable
It is
Try to restart
still the 24tb segate is like 25% cheaper
What cpu do you got to run the stock cooler on?
Bc thats where 90% of ppl buy from
Last time I checked the 20TB Toshiba was the cheapest
In the US
not in norway. newegg doesnt even ship here anymore
You should still get a display out
L
Is hdmi plugged in
Yes
158kr/tb!!
Are you sure those are not smr
Where
awesome you fixed it
You mean on the motherboard
that was my first thought aswell
That has always been there
Okay okay
They look pretty good then
Okay it works now
Also I might also be buying 3
exactly! only thing is the power hours per year which means i gotta figure out spindown
Home server, so it's meant to be spun up all the time
im just doing a nas. only needs to be spun up when in use. and if i add a ssd cache thats a very low amount of the time
I never manages to get spindown working on my servers from truenas at least tbf I have a lot of mixed drives
NomNom
Sim do i need a sag bracket?
whats the gpu again
also, it wouldnt hurt since you have a 3 fan
I don't think you need it, but it doesn't hurt to have it.
why
Okay
isn't it called undervolting?
no
Dont wanna use up too much powrr
huh? that makes no sence
Do i use msi afterburner?
The wattage will be less
there will be basicly no difference on the power bill
I don't thing the 5070 used that much power anyways
Yes but i have a 550w psu
Oh
I will try with this one now
should I overclock my rx 580?
ew, why
Will definitely notice once the pc shuts off
550 isnt good
My pc uses barely any powrr
What PSU model is it
I talked about this with other people yesterday
you never cheap on ur psu
what is the rest of ur system
You always need overhead for those ms transients tbh
R5 5600
with a 5070???
i wanna add a drive to my computator but the psu doesnt have any more sata cable, any help?
I had a 1660 super
Combos be broken
ur pc combo is unballanced
he is right guys let pp_ar_bg be hapoy
I just want to know when you’ll be back here asking tech support for a problem so I don’t feel the need to tell you that you fucked your psu, you alrwdy know
💪
wouldnt it bottleneck your 5070?
Especially if it’s like d tier or Lowe that will be great. I will get the meme photos lined up
Sounds like someone that no matter how much they screwed up it has to be positive.
you need a bigger psu with a better cpu
I have a rx 580 with r5 3600, should I upgrade my cpu? (i cant upgrade my gpu currently)
what??
you need both tbh
sorry typo 
what should i upgrade to? budget is 100$
nothing, save up
Its a msi a550bn
breh
100 is way too little
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Welp he’s using 400w max load on a 5600/5070 stock power limits. Add in the rest anda transient on a crap PSU could ruin it
For 100 you could go on FBM and see if you can find someone who wants to get rid of their PCs. But they ain't going to be any better.
should i use oc genie 4?
the bios thingy in msi mobo's
Tier c MSI 550w PSU. Yep you’re gonna fry that thing
Probably take a year or so of sustained use
“Failed to meet 80%+ bronze efficiency” … ooh he could fry it much sooner
no, he is being relistic
Your PSU is tested as out of spec at 60% load. You’re going to kill it
What should i get then
Anything B tier at 750w+
Realistically
You don’t game on C tier imo and I don’t recall anything below 750w hitting b tier but I could be wrong
This one isnt bad:
https://a.co/d/2JYiuJk
CORSAIR RMe Series Fully Modular Low-Noise Power Supplies provide quiet, reliable power with Cybenetics Gold efficiency to your PC. The modular cables make PC builds easy, as you connect only the cables your system requires. With ATX 3.1 and PCIe 5.1 compliance with inclusion of native 12V-2x6 co...
you should save up at least 500 bucks
Is the Montech 850w in stock in US again? Should be cheaper
My go to for US builds when it’s in stock as at 850w it’s normally priced better
just get corsair rm850e or x, spend like 10$ more and thats it
Montech out of stock, probably a perm thing now globally
Honestly, anything 750w+ that is sold on propper markets. Not like the us market with no regulations.
Gigabyte UD 850w is $90 on Amazon and will also do the trick
Stop buying psu’s from Temu 
Honestly i would trust honggongdong power superly conpany 750w instead of Johnson Electronics 750w.
Should i get the mag a750bn?
The only thing you may not get is all Japanese Caps but how much does that matter anymore
Or montech gamma II 750 gold?
@faint flower budget/country
If he's in spec he's gonna be fine
I would personally prefer something with all potential protections and such
But c tier on that list doesn't necessarily mean "doesn't work in spec"
Not much of a budget just bought a 500 euro gpu after people told me 550w would be fine i live in austria
The montech one is gold
And its 65€
550w is not fine
Yes i know it now
how much budget do u have now? 65
65 would be great
whats ur max
Not much above that
cause 65 uh kinda difficult
Produktbeschreibung : be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000W - Netzteil - 1000 WattGerätetyp : Netzteil - aktive Power Factor Correction (PFC) - internSpezifikationseinhaltung : ATX12V 3.0/ EPS12V 2.9280-PLUS-Zertifizierung : 80 PLUS GoldGewicht : 1.91 kgLokalisierung : EuropaEingangsspannung : Wechselstrom 100-240 VAusgangsspannung : +3.3, +5, ±12 V...
156 on sale
C tier in the list just means you don't have some specific protections and you hit a lower efficiency or have been tested for over power protection functioning and 110% load not failing afaik with some other small similar things that could drop it
Which again, not ideal
But if you have a psu placed there, probably not a big deal depending on why it's placed in c
You said 500€ that psu is 156.
And definitely not the end of the world
No i said i just bought a 5070 for 500
How is this?
Sometimes I’m randomly CPU bound at 4K max, then I restart and it’s gone, does anyone know what’s going on?
Tbh, if you're buying a psu, look into the EVGA g2 PSUs
There is no evga gpus here
They sell used for like nothing and they're like just under god tier good
Whats the tier?
No idea
What about the montech i sent?
.
Because for regular people it doesn't really matter.
Its gold

What does that mean
It means idk
Okay
It delivers power, so it works.
The rating is only how efficient it is
It doesn't really say it's good or not
hello people, how to get over getting a small scratch after u js got a new laptop
5 year warranty all protections
Ignore it
lmao i wish, its a gift for my dad and i have to make it run till the end of my school life. Really avoidable lol
Whats done is done, you cant do anything about it without getting a new one
my laptop has a massive bright spot from water damage. i would really like that to be gone. but i dont watch any movies on it and i dont wanna pay for a new pc so i just ignore it
it was my school laptop
Yeah, it sucks but thats all you can do without repairing it
haha its just it was in the honeymoon phase and a gift from my dad, put a case and everything. Very small scratch but
it was something that was avoidable
gonna get apple care plus and hopefully fix it in the future
maybe ill js get over it by that point tho
det burde komme en adapter i esken
if you do, either a 5600,5600x or 5700x3d tbh
i mean it should be a adapter in the box
i need help to set up some case fans
so i am planing to buy 4 rgb pc case fans and i dont know if i need a hub or anyting
screw and plug em in
if artic, thermalright or a couple other fans, then they're likely to daisy chain
according to that new noctua study the forward top fan should be intake no?
so what connections does a rgb fan use?
no
U wont need a hub, they just daisy chain togeather
wdym?
real question, does it matter
thats fair
RGB being 12v is 4 pin, ARGB being 5v uses a 3 pin
fari
that completely depends on the fan
can i get some more info on that? so i klnow a rgb fan uses one conector for power and one for leds, but does my motherboard support 4 rgb fans?
actually no
what da fuc is dat
never seen that
so i need a hub then? 4 fans is 8 cables total
your manual will tell you what header to use, also depends on what fans you use wheter it's RGB fans or ARGB fans
Its an example of what daisy chain looks like
good idea tho. it should be fine if the wire gauge is adjusted properly
a really really bad example of daisychaining fans
whats diffrence between argb and rgb?
this is
Any fan should support daisy chaining. You're just putting them all in parallel with the same voltage. Only real limitation is if your board can't supply the required current without breaking something or dropping voltage
one you will never see on modern tech
He mentioned he dosent know if he needs a hub
voltage primarily, and how colour controll is applied
Thats just the connectors
You can think of the fans like parallel resistors with a 12v source
i just want to install 4 rgb pc fans thats it
almot all motherboards can at least do 1 amp for 12v and when most fans are like 0.15a you cant really overload it unless you are doing something super dumb
i have a msi z590 gaming carbon wifi
No matter how many you put in parallel, the voltage across all will be about the same so they'll all work until your source fails due to the resistance of parallel resistors decreasing which increases current
ew my 4k panel is ips
ARGHH my right ear hurts so much omddd
wat
corsair fans don't daisy chain, thermaltake fans don't daisy chain, and several other brands fans don't daisy chain, it's realistically only a limited few brands that have lines that daisyt chain
i have 6 system fans conectors but that just power
They do
what else could it even be that is better and does not cost 3x the price
I just got fluid sitting there and I can't sleeeep
It's just a motor
the argb part
show them then, because they connect via a hub, which in itself is not daisy chaining
fhd??
nvm
wat
Oh, argb is a bit different because that's going through a controller and is digital
i guess i need a header cause its gonna be alot of cables
nope, in the case of fans, it is daisy chaining, arctic being one of the earliest ones to do it afaik
cool?
idk isn't ips bad?
who said that
But with argb you can basically always repeat the same signal to all of them
me
even up there its saying ips is hitting 100% srgb and rec 709
You just won't get them to behave independently like a continuous strip
ips is the best lcd (imho). oled is a lot better but a lot more expensive
I stead it'll be more like having a single repeating pattern on all the fans
which should never have their draw going pass 1A unless it's a header designed for a pump/aio in which the header has a max of either 2A or 3A
What type of fans are there in a Corsair 4000d RGB case?
i saw a little diff my 1080 monitor can reach 17 milion colors while this ips can reach 1 billion colors
Actually, now that I'm taking embedded systems, I should make some Arduino code to just run a unique argb signal to my pc
ok i see there were some reports
I feel like that'd be a pretty doable project
@sage jungle mobo header differences
like what i did
yes but but my question is, a rgb fan has one cable for power and one for the rgb, i am planing to buy 4 rgb fans, which is 4 power and 4 rgb, i have enough for the power but for the rgb i dont think i have, so i need a hub right to split it up?
Sometimes I’m randomly CPU bound at 4K max, then I restart and it’s gone, does anyone know what’s going on? Cyberpunk 2077, been happening for like 2 weeks now
Based
thats cool...... what is it?
free is fun
I absolutely love how versatile microcontroller devices are
that completely depends on the fan in question
subwoofer with proprietary connector
wdym? is there rgb fans which all in one cable?
yeah. did you make it non proprietary?
i love the internet
hell yeah
i mean db15 isnt really proprietary especially with that pinout you could easily make a proper cable
some cheap fans do that and plug into a proprietary hub
this is a phanteks m25 all in one, worth to buy one and put infront?
i would anyways have to do this part
modify a gpu cable and it's easily done
Technically, if they're using 12v RGB you can with some soldering skill just run the 12v from the fan header to the RGB too and set the color with resistors acting as dividers to each channel of color
i hate how i was the only one in my class intersted in this stuff
how do people normally do with alot of rgb fans then?
Or no resistors and make it white
i want the easiet way
im not sure if anyone in my class even knows the word pinout at times
these are marked as D-RGB which is just another way of saying ARGB, and when you read the info for them, they daisy chain
for my college, that class sucks bc the teacher is abysmal at teaching, dude canceled class bc "It might rain"
he didnt teach shit
@sage jungle
my teachers know and try to teach but the people who chose to listen to what he is saying just try to hurt others by the amount of shit they say and claim as jokes
Just put them in parallel or in series with normal 12v RGB, but in series you'll eventually see some voltage drop at the last LED's
i heard other people in my class while we were allowed to stay inside during the break talk about shitting on the teachers desk
its insane
Guys quick question
at some point this year im buying a proper (probably moza) steering wheel. so imma have to make some jank like you did to make my logitech pedals and shifter work without the logitech wheel
The ram slot should be on 2-4 or 1-3
2/4
tbf the rgb side of RGB cables are just grounds, so yeah, having different rated resistors could manually do that
still dont understand how to do really if i buy 4 rgb fans where do i conect the fans too, the power to system fan header but the led itself?
depends which way you count
usually 2-4, but see motherboard manual to be sure
whatever your manual says
my monitor is a designer monitor lol why do i even have it?
counting from cpu its normally 2 and 4
i just say 2 and 4 since i have yet to see standard stuff not use em
the ARGB header, simple as that
literally, the one marked with 3 pins in the manual for the mobo
if the mobo has no header, you're SOOL
and also it will work if you do it wrong too
so how do i know how many i have? each fan needs one? or can i conect all fans in one conector?
no
It says nothing about it i have a b850 arous elite
do you not understand what daisy chaining means?
funny enough a lot of am5 boards i have seen now do not even wanna start if its not in 2 and 4
yes when you conect every fan togheter
it will tho. worst case you end up only having one channel. but the motherboard im using for my nas only has one working channel anyway lol
but not all fans support that or?
where you connect every ARGB cable together also
Amd5 seems sensitive to memory, is it still as much of an issue as when that platform first released? I know my boot times are significantly longer with am5 than it ever was with am4
if you manage to do one channel you are doing something dumb, (not talking about your server)
example shown via artic's p12 pwm pst argb's
no the other channel actually doesnt work lol ive tried to fix that for a few years
no ddr5 was very new to amd
ok do you recommend any good rgb fans when?
https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_b850-aorus-elite-wf7_1101_e.pdf?v=6c0b01798710f63d993e85cf81315b60, clearly states 2 and 4 (counting from cpu)
wow i didnt know that
cant do much more than reseat
maybe a new cpu to check the IMC
nope, generally due to a loss in fan performance for ARGB/rgb fans against non-argb/rgb fans
so just non rgb fans are better?
ive tried different cpus and a bunch of memory. if i use either slots on one channel it does not POST, if i use any slots on the other channel it works perfectly
Sim people told me to get a better psu
but its working fine
Yeah they were going at me again
performance wise, yes, if you want argb/rgb in the pc, get some led strips you can control instead
while its working without issues
welp motherboard is the only thing left
I guess...
is it?
yeah. which is why its been demoted to server business
So i guess i thought about this one
https://www.xpg.com/de/xpg/pc-components-kyber
Is this any good?
have you had any issues?
so why look at a new psu
recommend any good non rgb fans for a good price then?
550w with a 5070
people are dumb, people watch ZTT, and so on, never trust "people"
yea more than fine
Oh yeah here we go again
is there any benefit/downside to connecting the second screen to igpu instead of gpu?
i just imagine the people thinking the 5070 uses 5070w or 570w or something
i use the second screen only for watching videos/tv/browsing internet
i think the 5070 uses about as much power as a 3070 and such
He was talking about having to underclock or something like that
other people saying he had to
Ty a lot!
Then again, 550w is on the lower end of what you should have.
wat
you can do a 9700X and 5070 ti on that
88w+350
But wont i notice if its not enoigh by the psu protections shutting ot off?
With today's specs 550w is on the limit of what you could have.
yes worst case computer turns off no damage
again 9700X and 5070 ti
guys i heard that the aorus motherboards could cook ryzen 7 and 9 cpu's on the first boot, is this true? im currently installing it right now and i would like some clearance on the topic
its not true
Yup. Worst case.
Click, black screen, pc turned off.
A new case of catastrophic CPU failure has emerged involving AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor, marking the latest in a series of reported incidents within the last few days involving high-performance GPUs and CPUs. The failure occurred during routine use when a system equipped with the 9800X3D...
Okay shouldnt i stress test it then
anyways i should go and get this
I just realized, my HDD was in 7 different computers i built since 2016 💀
it obviously used only as secondary storage device now, but damn, it works flawlessly just as almost 10 years ago
Y
arctic p12 pwm pst's, you can get 5 for $30-40
Whats a free software to stresstest?
i got sent this on the subject
yea most hardware is either working or not
Wouldn't hurt, to see if you need a bigger PSU. It all depends on how many peripherals you have.
is this asus , coz it says asus but tis not displayed don the tpm product? https://www.amazon.in/dp/B0BK2CP426?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title
5w keyboard and 1w mouse
i just checked and my hdd is 6 years now🤯
your cpu does not support windows 11
3dmark benchmark. Do the benchmark a few times.
idk
it does wdym ?
what cpu
is this a new pc
Aleight will do
check my bio
3d mark, cinebench, occt, linpack xtreme
It's one if those that you gave to trick windows into accepting the cpu.
why tf do you need a TPM 2.0 thing
your cpu already has it
lga 1700 has always supported windows 11
i had an issue where when the initial boot screen asks you if you have encryption key and whatnot, i pressed no and windows said i didnt have tpm reqs, but i rebooted clicked Y and it worked
coz secure boot from my mobo's firmware tpm messed up my pc real bad , i enabled it for BF6 game
messed up how
welp i have better things to do anyways
i had to reinstall windows and format all my drives because it shows turn on bitlocker when i right click the drive
anyways yall yk how to change this name? i didnt set it up and its willi and i wanna put my real name
also you can bypass the tmp2 requirement. and also prime linux shill opertunity
i did just as intructed by a youtube video and my game and pc were working fine until yesterday
i deleted all the keys of the tpm and reinstalled to default before i reinstalled windows
my guess is secure boot messes up with windwos updates/drivers etc
was it a random yt video
just informing people in this sub who plan on playing BF6 , be aware and if you enable secure boot , and if your pc gets messed up after a cumulative update or something, its not the updates , its the secure boot having conflicts , tho windows updates have also messed up my pc before .....
nah it was a simple 1 min. video
what i meant was it from a random guy with little views
ok lol
did you want the full circuit layout for the remote control for that sub?
hi rauko and sim
how do i bypass administrator password on my laptop bios cause i literally forgot it (laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 320-15ISK)
but we got a bit distracted on price discussion what i wantet to know is is the low power on hours per year important? and if it is can i spin down the drives when not active in like hexos or something?
That is why you turn off bit locker
omg bitlocker is a piece of shit
There is a reason I tell everyone I know to turn off bit locker
my dads laptop got so corrupted i had to install linux. like a total wipe of the drive was not enough for windows to play ball again
bitlocker is actually fantastic but very few if any consumers need to use it
i have a few thousand PCs in the field with bitlocker enabled and i've never had an issue with them
just gotta make sure you have your decryption keys
Anyone know if you can output video signal over motherboard thunderbolt without an iGPU?
I just discovered my second monitor has one cable capability but, yeah, I only have discrete graphics
Guys 590 8gb or 3050 6gb?
if motherboard has thunderbolt it most likely has a port labeled DP in
like this proart one
Holy shit
should my GPU show up in bios somewhere
What about it?
nvm, it's not Thunderbolt, it's just USB 3.2 Gen2. ASRock doesn't explicitly state that it does or does not support DP alt mode.
Guys is this a good fake plant for my setup (the hanging one on the right)
I don’t know what they should look like and where to buy them…
they should look like whatever you want them to
the top right one looks nice to put in the corner of ur setup
Which one? U mean the one in my real pic? That’s a real plant so maintaining it in the corner would be a pain
no in the other pic
The hanging one?
yes
That’s the one I mentioned
yes
It’s only like 5 bucks also
And it’s in store, I’ll prob buy a few
Idk if I really need or want multiple tho
i cant seem to manage to figure out how to connect the mic
only the camera works
thing is id only want my mic running not my camera too, so i dont drain my phone and whatnot
isnt this the rendered setup

Well irl now but yea
why does fallout 4 not work on b580 but does on my 1050 ti?
Oh its real now???
I just got it big boss… I haven’t had time to do that yet, plus I need the led strips set up before I do this
drivers
probably some dx issue w/ creation engine
you might need to find some mods to remove the nvidia elements from the engine
hey guys, dumb question
do i need to reinstall windows when i switch SATA mode from AHCI to RAID? i think yes but imma ask just to be sure
no
idk if you can do only mic, this is an extra phone thing, dont use your main phone for this
wait why did you put it to raid
hope that means silksong
fasterer or somethning
cuz i wanna run raid...? raid 0 to be specific
is it cuz it uses cam on and it drains battery or whatever
leave it in ahci unless you're doing a bios raid (fucking dont)
dont do hardware raid
why not?
yeah and gets the phone warm
worse than common software based solutions in almost every metric
raid0 is no fault tolerance- one drive dies and you lose all your data.
there’s a reason hardware raid fell out of fashion years ago
bruh ok lol il use my shtty 5 year old samsung
🫡
im aware of that, yes
i just want speed
so get an nvme drive
i mean even then do raid0 in software lol
i assume the raid made by windows disk management is good enough yes?
this isn't 2012
we aren't raiding sata ssds for boot
I just got a minisforum ax1 pro for office node, should I reinstall windows clean or is it a better quality/safety than acemagician/etc?
Specifically DirectX. FO4 is a DirectX 11 game, and 12 was already the standard when Arc hit the market so that's what it's focused on. Intel has been getting better about supporting older DirectX versions but not all games work on every card.
can someone explain what PBO scalar means? from the little ive searched it allows for higher clock speeds by maintaining higher voltage?
exactly what you just said
Minisforum is a big name, I'd trust their windows installs
does z77 (intel 3rd gen mobo) even has a slot for nvme?
there is a slot for intel rapid storage smth but i think it still use the SATA interface
perfect, so in my case where im trying to UV, I would leave it stock right
please upgrade 😭
you can actually do both iirc
yeah ik, but im in an itx build so would rather have lower temps for a little perf tradeoff
no money man, and this old thing still serves me well 👀
you can get a 7$ pcie card to support it
may have to use a USB bootloader but an option
hmm noted, may buy that in the future
Yeah, but with such an old PCIE version there might be throughput issues unless they can spare an x4 or higher slot
I haven't bought anything prebuilt with windows on it (except a laptop from lenovo) in about 26 years... so I was just worried >.>
is the move trying curve offset then boost clock then scalar? for PBO UV
Thought it was releasing December
anyway does striped volume (raid 0) in disk management still provide more speed than using one drive right?
you should put it in an x4 slot anyways
even boards that old had an x4 slot
i think 1 lane of pcie gen2 is faster than sata anyways lol
augh close
O no I dropped my laptop
thats what you GET
is it better if i set it to a super low resolution
macbook time
like 144x192
and if he has 3rd gen, it supports pcie 3
probably
gen3 nvme is pleeenty tbh
What even is Hollow Knight Silksong? What’s different from normal hollow knight
Jk
it plays a silk song
it’s an entirely different game
Macafee
How so? What’s different
The difference is that one of those games actually exists
different mc, different map, different movement, different abilities, different enemies, different story, different bosses, different main goal
An nice
the genre, art style, and creators are about all they share
But my god the laptop is disgusting
Intel says z77 only supports pcie 2 https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/64024/intel-z77-express-chipset/specifications.html
It has also taken some HITS
Pch
did third gen cpus even have 4x gen3 for storage?
Knew it, same cpu as the one behind it
X2 gen 2
here we go again
my 3770 had pcie 3 yes
What a screen holy shit
Ew gross
no I meant like the extra 4 lanes for nvme
The touchscreen still works
3rd gen mobo does have pcie gen 3, my graphics card currently run at gen 3 x16 atm
idk if theres any spare lanes left for a nvme card tho
my z97 platform has it but if I utilize it it drops the gpu to 8x
I’m impressed
z77 chipset only supports 8 lanes TOTAL
I'm talking about from the cpu
not the chipset
I said pch
Isn't storage typically thru the chipset tho?
and dont "floppa but thats a xeon nobody has those"
literally everyone somewhat on that side of budget computing knows that the xeons are cheaper than typical desktop parts
z77 chipset (not the cpu) only support up to pcie 2.0, but the cpu itself does support pcie 3.0 x16 (the image is the pcie lane of the chipset)
sata is generally through the chipset as well as SOME m.2 slots.
the board supports pcie3
the chipset has 8 gen2 lanes that it also lets you use
it does not support pcie gen2. it IS pcie gen2
The lack of branding and word vomit listing title says no
Z87 was too based for us mortal
what does this statement even mean
fortnite
yeah, this, got a little bit confuse
Literally best mobo and CPU gen imo
are there any okay capture cards that are hmdi to usb? or are hdmi to usb capture cards not good?
i mean yeah a bunch if you just want a 1080p 30/60 thing
it's gaming time
even the one you sent is probably fine lowk, just wouldnt expect it to do much more than be an input in obs
my new gaming laptop arrived fr fr
gamering so hard rn
buy cyberpunk
yeah i mean thats all im looking for is a basic capture card for basic recording of xbox game play as most of the games i like playing and would want to make videos on are on my xbox
would run 240hz on cyberpunk path tracing 4k on this bad boy
your xbox already does that
ok but mac pro
you can just record to a usb drive and edit on the ocmputer
Isn't it usually the consensus is that the more you buy the cheaper it is
oh the other person
what is this selections bro
Nice, im thinking of getting a mac at some point whilst im still a student to get them student discounts 🙏
Wdym
fuckin thermalpaste then a printer then a watch charger
What are you trying to capture? Because any decent GPU can do desktop capture while gaming. Capture cards are only strictly necessary if you're trying to capture a console or coordinate multiple inputs like an external mic or webcam.
xbox
that is an xbox
Thats a good point but I dont really know how to put videos on a usb
thermopasta
google will help
I have never owned an xbox, i was loved as a child
Game play on my xbox cause ive got more games on it plus my graphics card is kinda mid when it comes to gaming
I owned an xbox, i was loved as child
mx6 printer
Both have MX6 in name or product code
Literally takes 5 seconds to google https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/games-apps/game-setup-and-play/capturing-xbox-one-game-clips-to-external-storage
owning an xbox as a child = not being loved?
nintendo
cope
i loved my x360
xbox 360 my beloved
to a parent everything is a nintendo
ps3 gamers be like "at least the cpu is cool"
i had an xbox 360 and ps3
Same i loved my wii that i had but it would never top my xbox360
my mom plays exclusively xbox
the PS3's architecture would work out way better if tried today
shhh
I just use wii
now, 1:6 probably isn't the way to do it, but the idea would actually work if done today
i used to get my mum to help me with some lego game on the 360 it was fun to game with my mum
my mom plays call of duty
real
I think the only non-mobile/flash game my mom's ever played is Mario Kart 64
I played the original Prince of Persia with my dad
RIP flash
my dad and my mom's dad used to buid computers 🙏
sheesh
Fukkin bejeweled had a hold on her, man
modern games are much much more thread safe, and a common architecture is to have a (couple) main thread(s) and a bunch of worker threads for running jobs
garbage for a whole 55$
the PS3's architecture is basically a main CPU core, and then a bunch of job worker cores
e waste
people see super micro and think it’s worth something
unfortunately
i wish i could get cheap-ish skylake server
I want to get my hands on them xeon golds



my precision 5810 was 80$
my work just got rid of our servers, think those are them proliant g8
I feel worried
scale this up a bit bigger, and you have the couple main threads you need, and then a gaggle of workers, and yea, it works much better than it would for a game that was entirely single threaded before
G8 is 2011-1 (someone mentioned 2011-3, which is G9 servers)
i think one of my fans is pinker than the rest
Got a mouse
mous
i have attack shark x3 at work
mouse
I use roccat kone aimo at work
Love me some layers mmmm
attack shark x3+ my epomaker
then at home I use my r6
While we're still on the topic of outdated tech, I found this odd duck in a closet at work recently. Clearly just an office machine but custom built with gaming parts? Not sure what's in it but it's a Z97 board so 4th or 5th gen intel.
I'd try to sell it but feel like that's in a bit of an e-waste valley - not old enough to be collectable, too old to be useful
Does it matter if my heatsink is slightly scratched?
no
probably an abandoned gaming pc
Ayt thanks
Nope
board could be fun for some ddr3 oc
they absolutely just sold the gpu off
Your Heatsink is effectively just m e t a l
pcie slots arent oopen
Oh based did your parts arrive
is it dcs time 👀
those are the stab it with a screwdriver kind
fair
idk maybe cpu intergrated graphics "gaming pc"
idk during haswell?
Only mobo, ram, cpu, cooler. Still waiting on psu+case+3080
for ethernet specifically its 7mbyte/s , other technologies might do better since 100mbit vdsl does translate roughly to 10mbyte second
There are Z97s with M.2s??
yes, its awesome
this never stopped gaming prebuilt companies
The previous owner of the business was not tech savvy and definitely didn't game so I have no clue why he had this
considering they still sell gt710 pcs
theres AM3+ boards with nvme and it is the fastest ive ever felt FX
Ikr, psu wont arrive before monday likely. Probably not the gpu either
Even if only 10gb/s, it IS awesome
yeah thats still more than sata lol
Case should be here tomorrow though, and my good storage
Mega lame- who else am I going to form fly on??
Ahaha
i would but im too broke for dcs
It makes me unreasonably happy though, seeing the partial build
Oh hell yeah
i buy 5070ti i reckon tomorrow
Im not gonna assemble it before the psu comes so i have a way to ground myself
floppa spend hundreds to come fly with us
i dont like flying but ill play car game
😔
i am very good(ish) at car game
buy r25
i’m gonna fly to floppas house and steal all his ram
i have a lot idk if youd find it all
Then you would probably be ok- at flying game!!!
i use a half sodimm of ddr3 to prop my window open against my AC
i’m determined
wdym half a sodimm?
Ehh its ddr3
i have to disagree
well it didnt fit
did you brutalize that sodimm?
just in half
dear god
none of my racing sim experience transferred over to flight sims
Why not just like anything else
at least it’s just ddr3 sodimms
Seems more effort than worth
not hard to break a sodimm in half
surprisingly a lot of my virtual flying has helped with driving when I've needed to
it’s mostly plastic and copper
huh how?
who uses a d3 laptop
its not like the ics arent usable if you want to transplant them, which is the only use of a ddr3 sodimm
ddr3 laptop in the big 2025
When you're doing formation flying you learn to use your periphery better
d3 desktop i understand, d3 laptop is cursed
see? its justified
ok but its a cute little screwdriver & I kinda want one
fair
does that even use a 4mm bit holder
Its actually super handy
can confirm
someone asked me to fix their gaming computer at work and clearly the only way to know if it works is to game on it
the really tiny flathead is my most used screw bit
clearly
no other way no benchmarks or stresstests or whatever
Also distractions- you have 5-20 different audio cues & a master warn alarm, you learn to sift through bits of audio as it comes in to determine reactions
same idea applies to others on the road, radio, construction, weird noises, etc
is that 1/4 inch bits or 4mm i cant tell
Ok out of curiosity I went over and checked, it's just a piddly dual core i3 with 8gb DDR3 1866
Proprietary, those little fins go into two slots and you tighten the nut.
having like 8 other people in a discord vc and crew chief during hour 4 of your 8 hour endurance stint is what helped me
I hate proprietary stuff usually, but i like the system
It also makes it a lot easier if i wanna make my own bits
It's one of those 70's screwdriver sets you'd buy your dad/grandpa as a pocket kit
oh dang
Its so handy for tight spaces im not even joking
Not having to use those giant fat bits
The only thing that'd make me want one is if the spin top came off & you could socket it into a 1/4" screwdriver
It works with standard bits as well 🙂
screwdriver kits r awesome
It tightens down the more you thread the bolt down
agreed
most useful tool
arright I want one
its a tie between a 1/4 inch bit screwdriver or a soldering iron for me
lmaoo
or electrical tape
wish screen repair kits were a t hing for laptops
duck tape*
they are
Screwdrivers 100%, if im gonna solder i probably have it planned out but you never know when youre gonna need a driver
Good morning everyone it's me Steve Jobs, please buy the latest iPhone for only 499$
not in my case sadly got a small scratch on the screen of my brand new m4 mac air
trust me in tech repair you never know when you need to solder
can you ride your bike with no name?
first scratch hurts like hell
lmao
Yes
i've had my m3 mac air for like a year and it's still pristine minus some light dust and dirt
I know, work in an electronics lab lol, even with open face electronics i use a screwdriver more lmaoo
i soldered last when i wanted to mod my keyboard
If it can use standard atx parts make a sleeper with it
what keyboard?
i genuinely might buy a desoldering gun for keyboards
man my friend accidentally hit it with a pen in school. Put a case and screen protector now but still so sad
just use solder wick ugh
Gamdias hermes e3
case and screen protector gross
Frfr
take care of your laptop and get better friends
with like 208 solder points a desoldering gun is literally like the absolute biggest time save
cudnt have done anything i was rlly careful but he hit the pen sadly
kids still in school, what do you expect
ive been reselling stuff to afford a new screen ll
How recently did you buy it?
10 days and it was a surpirse gift which is the sad part
The stuff I see working my school help desk is wild
dont worry my adblocker isnt browser based
tf did ad blockers do
bruhh
"help i dropped my chromebook"
it's folded in half the wrong way because they thought it was a 2-in-1 like their teachers'
i'm still in school
Activate the applecare insurance for it, you still have like a week, a lot cheaper than their screen swap
yeah most of you in this server are still in high school lmao
It's LTT & discord, what do you expect
i have 355 days left for some reason, and apparently they dont fix cosmetic based damages even if its an accident. The scratch is so light tit might even be called cosmetic
Oh lol
i'm in college but close
college doesn't really count though
Probably not if its on the screen
unless you're a freshman
FRESH MEAT
i just work here
this is weird
its not visible unless very direct light is put on it
what, is fresh meat freshmen not a thing anymore?..
sadly it is there, im selling an old m1 mac mini to afford a new screen
I feel like as soon as youre seen by your teachers/lecturers as an actual human being and not a liability you stop being «in school»
cud be
good thought
weird thing for a person to say
Probably accurate, but I can't substantiate because I was a truant little shit
do u feel old
yes 😔
🤝
Its apple, they repair that shit. If you dont have insurance they also repair that shit but for massive amounts og money
lmao its chill u can provide lots of wisdom
"This is grounded in the assertion that a website’s HTML/CSS is a protected computer program that an ad blocker intervenes in the in-memory execution structures (DOM, CSSOM, rendering tree), this constituting unlawful reproduction and modification." I'm sorry this is bullshit. That code is publicly exposed, they can't claim it's proprietary. This would be like Coca Cola nailing its secret formula to the front door and then complaining that people got ahold of it.
Gotta be real, high school is so fucking easy if you just like do the things they ask of you.
It was a thing like 12 years ago in high school/college- freshmen were known as "fresh meat" to the jocks/bullies/dipwads because half the time they were easily bullyable
thing is idw tell my parents or anyone. Need to earn money quick myself, and go to my nearby apple dealer, and get it fixed in like an hour. I called em up they are asking for 300$. Just figuring out how to earn rn
Applecare bruh
bruhple care
are u 30?
care
apple care will cost 200$ where im from
close enough to it
yeah but most of us were rebellious little fuckheads
i’m technically a pre-freshman despite being in my second year of college
(senior in Hs too)
i snuck my dads car out and took it speeding lol
I was too scared of getting arrested to do stupid shit like that lmao
i personally just speed in my own car
if its between paying 300$ to fix the screen and nothing else or 200$ to get it covered for 2 years…
personally too young for a car
And the screen
I just smoked weed & went to mcdonalds like 3-4 times a week on my "study" period
personally meow
imo, nyaa
200 plus like 80-100 to get the screen fixed so same amount. Comes down to wether they allow me 2 fix screen after getting apple care plus
They will
It covers everything…
ive smoked weed once but didnt do it again cs of running career
ill take that route then
because the screen+digitizer are literally fused together so you're essentially replacing the entire device sans chassis
went from talking abt screens to weed real quick
Im aware but at that point I might as well just get a new tablet all together
weed is fun (if you're an adult)
yeah.. you should?
I was scared id ruin my stamina and wudnt be able to run as well so i didnt do it.
Same with all other forms of smoking or drinking
have done everything else imaginebale tho
Price of repair is literally at the price of a flagship from another brand
if anything working out a little high helps to ignore the muscle pain halfway through
yeah so upgrade
what is that why is it so expensive
lol this probs why peeps use coke while deadlifting
Ill just wait for wacom to release a new pro tablet later down the line
whats the big deal
Drinking ruins stamina? Have you never had to stumble several kilometers home while borderline blackout drunk?
It's a 27" drawing tablet
thats a thing?? 
Wacoms one is $3500
yeah lmao
dumbass gym jockeys ffs
holy hell that much for a display with touchscreen?
Ill just live with the scratches for now
precision color on a professional device is costly.
With a damn good pen
This
how do they make precise colors
Dead ass someone brought a broken laptop in 2 pieces and said they accidentally ran it over like what

I would never advocate for underage drinking/smoking… befause that would be illegal
do they calibrate it and whatnot or do they make an expensive panel
we in the same boat homie
The higher end ones go crazy with color which raises the price by a lot
calibrated screens & A-grade panels
😭
so essentially what we can do but done by professionals?
nnnno.
ok lol
Yes they replace the entire thing and calibrate it. The digitizer and screen are fused together
Its a very different thing from apple repair prices
i scratched my m4 screen. Even im looking for a replacement. How u getting over the guilt
oh guys might have found a freelance job
its just 100 bucks with appple care
Honestly not that big of a deal i wouldn't replace it until it gets really bad
It's fortunately not that bad when the screen is on but it makes everything look gritty underneath it and it feels like shit to draw on
Just 100 is alot for a scratch
I put a protector so dt its gonna get bad anytime soon. Just guilt lol
Oh wait an ipad m4?
apple does have really bad scratch resistance and display repairabaility tho
Is a GPU upgrade worth it?
nah
no its a macbook but even im dealing with scratches and an overpriced screen exchange
i think getting off am4 first would help
well if you get a replacement, try polishing that one down to a glossy finish- might be interesting as a "different" medium to draw on
8800GT doesnt like am4 cpus too slow
Me fr, am5maxxing so hard
which gpe is that
8800GT
I was told 5800X3D is good tho
This is why I dont bother with apple devices just 0 upgradeability and repairability
n
Ah yeah that sucks
doesnt 9600x beat it
8800 GTS 320MB
Pretty much
yeah genuinely and its so expensive
320 mb what 😭
7500F
false
bad take
unknowledgeable on current subject
seethe
cope
something else idk
Based take
Would probably be really slippery to draw on
whats the G and F for in amd cpu, idk what X means either
Someone's got a apple device 😭
F is no graphics
i just got hired by a freelance team i have a job to repay for the screen 
Iirc
F means no iGPU, G means gaming iGPU, x means xoverclock
oo i see
No, but I've worked on/with plenty of them to know that your take is just ill-informed hatred 
HAHAH
Next time I get a drawing tablet im putting a screen protector on it asap
every mobile device has 0 repairability or upgradability
my sisters iphone broke p easily. I feel even if they are durable their repair costs are way toooooo high for minor damages
and K is Koverclock?
yes
koverclock lmao
That i can agree on
no dude. Upgraidability yes but repairability....
mobiles can be repaired for really cheap and well at least where im from
Phones can be repaired though
mf if the nand dies in my samsung what do i have to do to replace it
Ok but lets be fr, gaming igpu is an oxymoron
yeah but cheaper
??
india-ish territory?
Especially newer ones. Not everything needs a glass back
you have a small scratch on your screen and youre trying to replace it 😭
HHAHAHA yeah im indian
yay i called it
15 year old with major ocd dude. I love the laptop and my dad got it even after my mom said no wanted to keep it pristine
its childish and stupid but
samsung z flip 7 screenreplacement cost
idk
I have no idea about the use case for a fan y-splitter tbh
uh 2 fans into 1 header