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I'm just going to make a VPN on a VPS in some privacy respecting country
you also can't really prosecute someone for doing something on a properly secure and private VPN
oh I know, but with how braindamaged some politicians are I wouldnt be surprised if they try
I'm pro vpn and I think this is a good thing by the way
"you encrypted your traffic and we can't see what you're doing, you're doing something illegal and you don't get to touch pcs for ten years after a ten year prison sentence"
north korea be like
silence
all around me are familiar faces
clones
wow
Do you mean the woman in the red dress
i put my red dress on...
Dancing in the dark, in the pale moonlight
I still have no clue what monitor to buy 🙃 I want 1440p and at least 144 hz
Preferably payable via klarna but not a huuuuge issue if not
Legitimately scared right now. Feeling pretty unwell. Feel like I’m going to die
https://box.co.uk/90lm0500-b03370-asus-tuf-vg27aq-27in-qhd-ips-led
How's this monitor
is it completely pissing it down with rumbles where you are in the uk ?
Wdym
well, where i am currently, i've had a storm passing over intermittently and heavy short downpours lasting a few minutes at a time, with the rumbles at least from thunder and lightning minus the sparks from lightning
how loud are your psus?
not at all
Not at all
i reinstalled windows (clean install), now i have 2 files on desktop named desktop.ini. how do i get rid of those?
mines loud for no reason
i mean its not like bad, it just sounds like a pc, but i hear 0 noise difference when i turn my fans and aio pump off
loudest part of my pc at idle is my psu 😔
that worked for 1 of them, other cant be deleted
Why
whats it say when ytou try to delete?
nothing, it just stays put
ah its gone now that i enabled hide protected system files in explorer
guess i setup the autounattend.xml a little wrong
What kind of psu?
msi mag a750gl
Thats a noisy unit yeah
captchas just straight up don’t work
like i knew chatgpt or whatever will easily be able to pass those captchas
they really dont
the machine that builds the machine
yeah
or the ones that track the movement to determine if its too robotic
those are my favourite because all you have to do is click the box and if your a human you have nothing to worry about
takes like a quarter of the time other captchas do
they work based on human clicking patterns, but if you create a bot that does those patterns, then you get around said captcha's
this one fails the most as it's the least secure, captcha's are a step above it
the least amount = the easiest to bypass
hmmm 20 minutes of trying to troubleshoot why my NAS isn't showing up on this workstation. Ah I stole the network cable so I could play video games last night.
so a second cable needed?
worth it
nah, this is a temporary machine
and it happens, more so the older you get
how do you know?
how many 10mm sockets have gone hidden on you dude?
mainly due to the fan bearings on that specific unit
i go through one every like 2 weeks
oh i see
well i wanna swap psus now, mine might have coil whine too
also, as i'm using a corsair rm850x, and much like the previous rm650, and tx650m i had, the fans stay quiet
They hide immediately after you use them
They even vanish if you leave them on the wrench
yea so i was looking at the msi mpg 850gs, it too has zero fan mode
takes the wrench with it.
ninja's of the socket kind, i have a screw driver like that
Wat price?
just go for an rm850x 2024/2025 model
too expensive
everything here is nz is expensive
totally worth it in the end
uh 250, so like 170 usd or something
ah, the land with mordor, eisangard, shire and some hobbits
yes that one
US
land of hobbits kiwis and crackheads
and crap load of sheep
how long does it take for motherboard prices to stabilize after a new cpu + chipset release
ask the crystal ball
no one asked you
Bro YOU asked me
you think 250 nzd is worth it fir mpg 850gs?
I thought you were trying to help me here
thats after the 15% NZD tax
I have been thinking about getting lossless scaling for a while now, since i a finally convinced myself to do so, i am now wondering if the FG part has a noticable impact on the cpu performance or if its run on the GPU entirely?
uh prices there are never right
breh
https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/product/wY9nTW/ what about this as an alternative?
what about the gf a3's
HKC version so
uhhh i havent looked at that
What about the vetroo 850w modular gold
Decently cheap and apparently pretty solid
i just know certain psus from phanteks got issues where its melting peoples stuff
probably not this one anyhways
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20204 model apparently, not as good as the original 2023 model
this one has no pcie 6 pin gpu connectors
now ill probably still use 12vhpwr. but i do like having the option to use the others if i needed to for some reaason ect
That’s unfortunate
1x 18+10-Pin Mainboard 610 mm
2x 4+4-Pin CPU 650 mm
4x 6+2-Pin PCI-E 750 mm
1x 12V-2×6 720 mm
2x 6-Pin 4-SATA 450 – 150 | 150 | 150 mm
1x 6-Pin 2-SATA + 2-Molex 450 – 150 | 150 | 150 mm
pcie power is 6+2 pin, so it has it
oh wait
oh im tripping i was looking at the wrong thing
that's an odm tbh
i was looking at 6 ipn instead of 6+2 lol
Phanteks has individually sleeved cables
original device manufacturer, another way of saying oem essentially
Oh well yeah
which would you say is better quality? the phanteks one or the msi one?
Whats wrong with that, as far as im aware since they produced a lot of companies higher end psus, theyre pretty solid
Msi one has better internals and fan also performs better
nothing wrong, they're usually really good psu's
Thats what I have in my Pc, Super Flower 850w modular gold
The “combat series” or whatever
yeaa okayy
totally makes sense
We've gotten to the point where 6950xt is recommended now
Yes yes
U need to push minor rails so it stays quiet for a longer period
msi one has the bright yellow 12vhpwer cable
i do value that even though i check like 5x its plugged in before powering on the pc
My 5070ti came with a yellow 12vhp but I couldn’t get it to connect to the gpu without it looking ugly
your 5070 ti came with it?
So i ended up using the super flower one
Correct I got the MSI 5070ti Vanguard
i didnt know gpus came iwth 12vhpwr too
Where just the actual end where it slots in is yellow, rest is black
wdym its super ugly?
yea thats what i like, to make sure its properly in
but you should be checking multiple times before its plugged in anyways
Its was a 3 8 pin to 12vhp, the 3 8 pin adapter wasnt long enough to slip through the cable hole in my case for gpu power
ohhhh
So I ended up using the 12vhp the super flower psu came with
Otherwise youd see the 3 8 pins sitting there
wait huh your gpu came with the adapter i think you meant?
Correct
not the actual 12vhpwr full cable, just the 8 pins to 12vhpwr right
Yes my bad
As you should. Use either the provided adapter or the PSU supplied adapter
or the PSU 12vhpwr cable that is native to the PSU
Yeah I was going to use the adapter for the yellow, but ended up using the 12vhp with the psu
but im too scared to try other 12vhpwr ones
I think the psus 12vhp is rated for more than the adapter was anyways
5070, 80 are very unlikely to have issues as they're not pulling a ton of power but it is best practice to skip extensions and 3rd party ascetic cables
Its like a 300w gpu? And the 3 8 pin to 12vhp had 300w written on it, and super flower 12vhp had 450w writtin on it
The adapter came with the gpu
But I didnt use it
If it came with the PSU that's fine as well 😄
It came with the gpu, but I used the one that came with the psu
Instead
i just like the bright yellow connect anyways, if you can see any yellow it means it aint plugged in
I would suggest against it only because the cables you have are known good
ywa its why i havvent
Yeah
I mean it is just a cable and you're not transporting the machine to a trade show for eye candy, right 😄
What gpu tho
i mean its sitting on my desk, i like how it looks 😭
4070 super
I get it, better safe than sorry!
Tbh, I mean, I wouldn’t stress it that much lol
i still stress
not stressing is not an option for 12vhpwr
A 4070 super pulls less than my gtx 1080ti did
yea
still what if i get just a bad 12vhpwr, i wanted one from a recent techsource video, but after looking at reviews on amazon, the cable is just made poorly
so ive just stuck with the one form my psu, its tucked behind my gpu sag bracket anyways
molex cable extensions are where its at
epic requirements are crazy
very stiff sony cable
6000 blackwell pros on top?
aye
Me? No, can't carry anything over the border
id love to see one in person
meant the company, my bad
will do 
all days?
I might be going just Tuesday or Thursday
I'll be there every day, and a few days before the show
I need to buy and smuggle a DJI Mavic 4 Pro back to the US lol
not really smuggling but I can't get one here unless I pay scalper prices
lmk if you need a list of food places
We had a Tims in Maine and then we didnt
when was that?
Many years ago
I feel like timmies ain't so good nowadays
probably 15+
haha not really sure it'll be as good as you remember but here's to hoping it'll be
wtf this is what the port looks like for the 30 series founders edition??
24 pin mobo cable
Lol
12pin
basically 12vhpwr without the sense pins
24 pin?
i never noticed that
i was watching a msi mpg a850g, and he pluged in the cable side ways, and i got confused af
Like almost all founders edition 30, 40, and 50 series do
ehhh?
I think mainly higher end offerings
Yeah like 80/90
the 3060ti fe i had didnt have it diagonal
I wish more manufacturers wouldnt put the cable on the outside of the gpu
So is mine
id prefer if they did it like server cards
i think i prefer it like this rather than having it on the end
On the end?
facing the front of the case
Yeah
I feel like it makes more sense, isnt there a company that put it on the under side up against the mobo?
well ig I can't complain since my card doesn't even need a cable
Like where most fans are, but up against the mobo
there is yea i forgot which though
I feel like that makes sense too, but not many cases have that support
Without routing it weird anyways
mine tucks behind my gpu sag bracket
I guess making it face the front would be shit for aib cards tho
since they tend to already be long as fuck
aux power placement is awkward 🙁
do you guys have your hdaudio cable plugged in
i dont think ive ever used mine besides to test if it actually works
I don't mind where it is on desktop/workstations all that much. Id rather it be on the top so it is not lengthening the space that card takes. Putting it on the bottom would make it a shit show to maintain.
the only path forward is motherboard power 😄
I used it because my nicer Bluetooth headphones would sound like absolute garbage over the pcs bt
i barely use the front io on my pc, unless its the usb c, my one and only usb c slot is on my case
yeah I've rarely found it to be an issue
only on my 4070ti, cause it was getting quite close to the side panel
My desk has a bunch of usb c slots, and I only ever use it for charging stuff so
I dont ever use it on my case
yeah, I can see that.
and I didnt like how much I had to bend it close to the connector
i use it on my case when i need to plug storage devices
mainly my ssd in an external enclosure
Motherboard powered 5090 lol
Why not? 😄
otherwise i just plug stuff into my usb hub that i have glued to the bottom of my desk
I just think its funny. Its be wild I think
The only problem with motherboard power is that enough dummies break the video card PCB already
Eliminate that slot latch first, then bring motherboard power
How would they implement that even, a pcie slot couldn’t handle that right?
Would need like a female 12vhp on the actual mobo, and a male on the gpu
it exists already no?
btf boards
Hey guys I need help with my build
Apple did this a while back with a mac pro
behind the front or whatever
Thanks
Oh what? They have like a power connection next to the pcie slot?
in the back of the mobo
Ohhh
that sends power through a special slot to the card
Ohhhhhhhhh
Right, the video card gets power from a motherboard rail instead of a cable
smth like that
I get it now
Im surprised
I guess its a short enough run with no wires
But could that handle like a 4090/5090?
Yeah
yes
there's more copper in the rail than the cable has 🙂
in fact, pretty sure most of the btf stuff is high end hardware
tbh im not a fan of it
it seems like every motherboard manufacturer/gpu aib has their own implementation of it
I dont hate gpu cables, I just feel like they could have better placement
It has to be adopted widely and standardized before it become really useful 🙁
MSI has kinda lost their minds
yeah
I dont want to buy a card and be locked to one mobo manufacturer
and what if they stop making the boards like that
then you're sol
I’m piecing together an AM5 system for a person who likes dragons and the cheapest MATX mobo with a dragon on it is like $219
Ig they’ll just have to use the gigabyte board I already chose
I got my z790 for $80 pretty much new
Off Jawa
I know thats not am5 but still
Msi Z790 I should say
Eh not that big of a deal they can just slap a dragon sticker or something on it
Lol
I was dumb and overpaid for the MSI 5070ti Vanguard, just so itd match my mobo
But still $219 for a MATX mobo with a dragon on it
I was getting a 5070ti, and last second discovered the Vanguard, and paid $250 more than I should have
💀
I love the way it looks tho
Im not gonna complain, I did it to myself
I feel like I should have gotten a nicer case for this build
It looks cool to me...
Only reason I got it lol, I love the way it looks
I just feel like it turned into a more expensive Pc than I planned
Only 2 “cheap” things left in it is the AIO and case
$60 AIO and $80 case
Would it be harmful if I go from 32 gb ram to 64 as my 32gb wasn't enough for my activities (I do some heavy stuff for my ram) I heard some say it's harmful or ruins your gameplay not sure if this is true or biased
Ddr5?
I forgot if my ram is or isn't sorry how do I check I don't see it on task manager
As long as you keep one stick per channel, yes. If you have two sticks per channel, you won't be able to hit as high speeds as you can with one stick per channel
one module per channel?
You only stick in 1 huh why would I put in 2 which isnt even possible
If its DDR4, 4 sticks is fine, if its DDR5, should get 2 32gb sticks
is this true @rigid fjord
DDR5 can be fine with 4, but as far as im aware you lose some performance
There are boards with 4 slots but two slots share one channel
Vs just 2 32gb sticks
both will have the same quad channel potential issue
Ok I was unaware of that, I thought DDR4 was better with it
But I get what is being said now
afaik its not as inherent on ddr4 compared to 5 bcs 5 typically has way more ram potential per stick
ok dumb dumb me need help, I'm rocking a core ultra 9 285k on my work pc and I have a relatively older nzxt kraken 360 AIO
under an all-core load (like recalculating a few million fields in Excel via multithreading) i'm thermal throttling at 95C
idle temps are in the 40s-50s, and I'm 100% positive the thermal paste application is good and there's no plastic between the block and the CPU
is it possible too much liquid has evaporated from the AIO and it's not cooling enough? this is relatively old, I got it with my TR 2950X back when those were new so it's like 7 years old at this point (which is a wild concept to think about right now)
I am so confused
I dont get it
you have 4 slots
What motherboard do you have lol
95c sounds like a temp limit set by bios, unless the aio is like 5 years i wouldnt worry
Gigabyte B850 AORUS ELITE WIFI7
but only two RAM channels, so if you have four sticks, there will be two sticks in each of the two channels. This creates a much higher load on the memory controller on the CPU, resulting in a lower maximum frequency that the memory controller can handle
if u try to run quad channel with high capacity modules ur gonna have problems with the imc
1dpc vs 2dpc
right so why does ddr4 or 5 matter since both are 4 slots anyway
this works better on intel than AMD
slots != channels
intel is ass
The load on the memory controller is higher with DDR5 than with DDR4 as far as I'm aware
both intel and amd are ass
amd is most of the time better bro
i'm able to run 4 sticks of 6400MT/s 48GB DDR5 DIMMs on my 285k, but i can barely get 2 sticks of the same memory working at 6000MT/s on my 9950X3D
Bro what
so yes, intel is ass, but their IMC is miles better
in what exactly
yes it is intel flopped so much more then amd
From what im seeing on your mobo, you should get 2 32gb DDR5 sticks to replace whatever you have
Meanwhile my 12700K can't even handle two 6000 CL 30 sticks lol. Currently running 2x48 GB 5600 CL40 xD
yea thats why i said this cooler is 7 years old in the post lmao
95C is definitely a bios limit which is fine because this is a workstation, i'm trying to find out why my peak temps aren't like 75C
this guy looked at one incident and said “aite intel sucks balls”
ouchhhh
oh mb i didnt see the 7 years old its probably the liquid inside thats fucked
btw I have ddr5 2x 16gb rams
whams
yea its very gurgly when it turns on, pretty sure she's fucked at this point
annoyed
so I buy 2x32gb ram?
if I might ask why not 4 16gb
yes. Take out the 2x16 that you have and sell them
We just explained it
I dont get why everybody always is so annoying with using 4 slots instead of 2
i mean he can gamble and see if his imc can handle 4x16 lmao, whether expo/xmp will work is another story
I know but i dont get it
gtfo
It'll create a higher load on the memory controller than what it can handle, resulting in a lower maximum speed
go read the context boy
More sticks = lower speed, that straight forward enough?
I understand brother but why do they then have 4 slots
even before I understood your texts mostly I just dont get why they do it then if it cant even handle it
it isn't adding up for me you know what I mean?
A dies vs M dies matters, and...
8/16/32GB capacities are 1DPC
24/48GB capacities are 2DPC so electrically are two channel per slot
if your IMC is bad, you'll struggle running 2DPC with 2 sticks, let alone 4 sticks
-_- this guy pmo
If you only care about raw capacity and don't mind the slight performance decrease, using 4 slots is fine
Can any1 help me with an issue im having running a game on linux?
I'll stick your advice regardless I just want to understand how and what so I learn more about pc's aswell yk?
sometimes you can't get 4 sticks to POST on AM5 regardless of speed
ahhhhh right so it is possible just not handy cus you ruin performance and such
Probably dont talk like this if you want help
Interesting... I can't tell from experience, have only ever had Intel systems so far
I wasn't speaking of you guys tho ya'll misunderstanding me
iirc this one guy couldnt boot with 4 sticks but could with 3 no matter what he tried lmao
I was on about other people who were toxic just like the guy who I blocked lol
yea that one guy is me
so the MSI MPG A850GS only has 1 8 pin pcie port, thats not good is it?
-calls intel ass
-refers to one singular incident and not the big picture
OH LOL
its been a long time
i have both core ultra and AM5 so i'm able to uniquely understand the challenges with both
I wasnt on about the people who are helping me rn sir @barren breach my apologies if it felt like that
@wispy forum
I dont see it I blocked him lol
yap
Hes was referring to you calling intel ass
yes I can have that opinion no?
You’re saying you didnt mean it like that, but talking like that
maybe we shouldnt consider ur opinion at all in that case
I wasn't referring to you or him tho
Brother
dude all I was saying was how I was expressing that people are angry rather then calmly telling me thats all @barren breach Im chill with you fully
Hiya, just wondering, what could/should I do to/with this
even the guy I blocked I didnt call him annoying
do you guys plug in both cpu power slots on your motherboard??
Im needing to ship my computer which is in the Fractal Meshify 2 XL and unfortunately wont be able to drive it there. I dont have the original computer box and so im struggling to figure out how to pack it safely. I've bought some instapak but I cannot find a box to fit this.
If I need to I will disassemble the entire PC and put those components into their original boxes (I have those thankfully), and will obviously be shipping the GPU seperately.
Advice much appriciated.
this guy is definitely a newgen, he sounds like he’s from Zach’s Clown Turf
I did, but for no reason lol
the msi power supply i was looking at only has 1 pcie 8 pin
use towels to fill gaps in there
I did, unless you overclock or have a 14th gen i7 or i9 it's not necessary
i have no reason to plug in the other 4 pin on my motherboard so it should be fine right
wouldnt instapak be preferred? or are you talking about around the computer?
Mine has a 8 pin and a 4 pin
by right yes
Isnt the second only really for overclocking?
wait im stupid, theres multieple 8 pins
On higher end cpus
im tripping i was only looking at the top
no, inside, i prefer rough towels that can get everything stuffed and immovable as long as u do it properly
normally for XOC or ur cpu wants to drink 400w
-13/14900Ks
What about finding a box?
again just get a big box, put case inside and spam more towels
are you shipping it?
up to you but I’d say no
unless said 1st box is weak as fuck
yeah
@barren breach btw do I buy the same brand I like rgb I had bought a G skill ddr5 trident Z5 Neo RGb 2x16gb 6000 CL30 F5-6000J3038F16Gx2-TZ5NR
might as well
I prefer to have rgb tho
as for insurance, ive heard that UPS/USPS/Fexex wont insure them? Is that true?
Doesnt matter if you’re replacing whatever you had
do you guys use molex cable lol
this is what I have rn but I am gonna buy 2x32gb but like do I buy a other brand or what do you suggest? thats my question
If needed uwu
in summary...
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Hynix A-die and M-die are both types of DDR5 RAM memory chips, with the primary distinction being their performance characteristics: A-die generally offers higher overclocking potential and frequencies, while M-die is known for tighter timings at lower, more stable speeds, particularly at frequencies around 6000-6400 MHz.
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1DPC and 2DPC refer to memory configurations where "DPC" stands for "DIMMs per channel". In a 1DPC (one DIMM per channel) setup, each memory channel on the motherboard has one RAM module installed. In a 2DPC (two DIMMs per channel) setup, each memory channel has two RAM modules installed. Generally, 1DPC configurations can support higher memory speeds due to reduced stress on the memory controller, while 2DPC configurations offer higher memory capacity.
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Single rank and dual rank memory modules differ in how their memory chips are organized and accessed by the memory controller. Single rank modules have one set of chips, while dual rank modules have two, effectively acting like two single rank modules on one stick. Dual rank modules can potentially offer higher memory capacity and performance, but may also place a greater load on the memory controller.
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Intel has better IMCs than AMD. Intel will clock higher, support larger capacities, and support more sticks than AMD
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AMD's weak IMCs (on consumer Ryzen) will cause you to struggle with 2DPC (2 dimms per channel), whether it's 4 sticks of SR (single rank, memory modules on one side of the DIMM), or 2 sticks of DR (dual rank, modules on both sides of the DIMM)
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16/32GB modules are usually A die single rank
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24/48GB modules are usually M die
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48GB modules are dual rank
so, running 4 modules is the hardest on both Intel and AMD, and 4x48 is almost impossible on AMD unless you have won the silicon lottery with your IMC
hi man how are you long time no see
if i need molex power, yes
for your build do you need one?
No
holy fucking essay-
I'm good just living day to day, coping lol
That differs from person to person and build to build though
Hbu
very true
you use the cables you need, no more, no less
Whatever you want lol. If you’re adding 2 more sticks you need to match exactly what you have. If you’re replacing, you can get whatever you want
uh you alr?
no no I am replacing I am keeping the 2 ram sticks plan youg uys told me
Its only using 2% of my cpu and its the witcher 3
just idk if brands and such make a diff
just tell him the tldr is get the same exact spec ram with what he currently has lmao
No vsync
more likely than not its the same hynix die
not fine with 4, you loose alot of performance tbh, unless you try to manually tune it back from basically ddr5 3600 cl40 to the likes of ddr5 5200 cl40
alr this is my alt btw remember the guy with the rgb lughtning from his aio pump
Then get whatever you want, look for 64gb DR5, 6000 CL30
2 sticks
Call it done
consumer cpu's only do dual channel despite there being 2 slots or 4 slots
G skill DDR5 Trident Z5 Neo RGB 2x32GB 6000 CL30 F5-6000J3040G32Gx2-TZ5NR
Sure, done
on four slot boards, two slots share the bandwidth
so if you populate both slots, each ram stick gets half the bandwidth
II mean it is CL30 like you told me to and 6000
and 2 sticks
what iroh said
Yeah, so you’re done looking lol
alright thank you so much man sorry for earlier I didnt mean you guys just some guys were toxic to me when I said you have 4 slots why not use all 4
as I was just asking that to learn to them
and due to how ddr5 has essentially dual sub channels, you really only want 2 sticks
what is bandwidth btw?
LMAO-
the amount of information that can be sent and received in a certain amount of time
ah alright thank you
do you think it would be fair to sell it for around the same price I bought my current ram? I just have it since 1 month no damage nothing to them either
also I do a lot of stuff on my pc like running a server sharing my screen gaming or even recording would 64 be good enough? @rigid fjord
this kid has absolutely no idea how the world works, ignorance is bliss ig
currently I barely had enough with 32 as it almost reached it's peak so I just wanted to check it
Mind blowing sometimes
Im too far gone mentally lmao
hi i need help, i activated 4g decoding and my pc wont get to windows i cant go into bios
legalise cyberpsychosis when
Can I ask what youre even doing to near max 32gb of ddr5
opening 40 tabs of umamusume
hear youtube is going to use ai to verify ppl age
This is what im guessing
Like genuinely
?
i take it back he’s too young to enjoy umamusume, lets change it to 40 tabs of roblox macros
it's useful but tbh, that can also be also affected via other parts
probably way less
40 tabs of logan paul videos
Which way should I mount the 3 bottom fans? I belive eveything in this pc is exhaust
Meow
intake at bottom
Should I also change other fans, or would it be fine?
Explode
of people laughing at him going bankrupt you mean
it will be fine, but its better to have the side as intake
dont worry, I was playing this with a 9800x3d and 5090 ytd at 360 fps
(Dont click if u are allergic to visual novels lol)
its a story game with psychological horror inside
its quite short
So bottom and side intake and only the cpu cooler and top fans exhaust?
cpu cooler doesnt count, you want top exhaust, rear exaust, side/front intake, bottom intake
So if I have 9 fans I should put the side ones as intake and bottom and that's it?
eh? do you not have a rear exhaust?
Only 9 fans
uh yes, bottom intake, side intake, top exhaust
alternatively you can swap the very front top fan to be an intake too, apparently having the top fan on the side intake freshair and being exhaust straight out the top fan isnt that good
but it shouldnt matter much
you want bottom intake, because heat rises, so fresh cool air from bottom, hot air out the top
So it would be fine?
yea it should be fine
itll mess up your aesthetics anyways if you sawp that one singluar fan around
Alright thanks🙏
I have 96GB and can run two gaming VMs with 24GB each and still have more than enough RAM left for yet another game instance on the PC
Oh yeah lmao
I have 8gb RAM in my gaming rig 😎 👍
oops, forgot to quote, was scrolling through what I missed
I meant to reply to this message but forgot to hit reply first. 64 should be enough for your use case
Like me using a 14600k and 5070ti to play PC building simulator
dw its just a visual novel questioning you “would you consider what is on your screen/fiction real or fake?”
Even better
its pretty short being like 2 hrs
running a ark ascended server, gaming, sharing my screen, and having obs on whenever I want to clip which also take a little ram
what are your specs? ark ascended?
Why would you run the server on the same computer you are gaming on?
as in?
correction: TR 9995WX, RTX pro 6000 BW 96gb, 512GB ram, dual 2000w PSU, 20TB worth of storage
gpu rtx 5080 and cpu r9 9950x3d
mm
running a ark a server takes a lot of ram and playing obviously takes some and then also sharing screen and all and etc
what other option do I have?
Dedicated server
AMD sucks
alrighty thank you man
Intel is the one being curbed stopped rn lol
I run my own dedicated server on my pc and paly on it at the same time brother
in that case 14900KS* (idk what the intel alternative of TR is at all if any)
You missed it, im not serious
what is the point in that
Its not dedicated if its being shared
cus I want to play with my friends as it has way more options for a server then a non dedicated one
I guess they're also hosting it for others and then playing themselves as well
it is
yes myself and others
Not if its on the same computer as the one ur gaming on
wanna bet money on it?
lahmacun or whatever his name is has like 0.5% of an idea what he’s saying
might be even less idrk
Hes at it again
@sinful cobalt I can bet with you aswell
Its using the same hardware, so it doesn't follow the definition of "dedicated".
Walking in here not knowing a damn thing, and getting cocky
somehow I still find my server in dedicated options
i cant hear you down there
That's a game using improper definitions
Do you know what the word “dedicated” means
Dude... its not a dedicated server. A dedicated server is a computer set to only host it. Not a computer thats hosting it and playing on it at the same time
I'm trying to launch Windows apps (specifically Spotify) on programs like Razer and I'm running into permission issues. Does anyone know a workaround for this?
I do but I am saying in ark I never said by definition my friend
yes but Iment the server itself is still dedicatd
No
not only might he be a kid, he might also have failed english
Run as admin
plus im not cocky against you @barren breach or @clear canyon
or at least the understanding
ok this guy is pinging for no reason at all
it is because I am sure of what I am saying
Confidently wrong 🥲
so,
cocky
confidence
Tried it already, it doesn't work
i still cant hear you down there
I can literally find the server in the dedicated servers itself dude
Learn your place bud, let me give you a hint, its not in here if you’re gonna keep talking and acting like that
Nobody will agree with you
I didnt start insulting did I?
The 5090 is 52% faster than the 5080? Damn
it was the other guy not me
all his pc knowledge is from tiktok
Tiktok would give better advice
and he still on about me lol
oh so Im now the aggressor for saying ur accusing intel of being shit just bcs of their incident
“Wanna bet money”
no thanks im way too fucked up in the head
I am saying that cus I am sure about it
Its not a dedicated server, a dedicated server means its a computer built to host that game, you are not doing that, you have a temporary server up for your friends to play on with you. Just bc it shows on the list doesn't mean it is
ark says so thats
I know this before this whole convo already
And ark is wrong...
dude everything you just told me I already knew @clear canyon
Yet you still argue against it
Real
My pc Weighs over 20kg lmao
because I am not saying it was a dedicated server by definition I am speaking of the game accepting it and seeing it as a dedicated server my friend
Double it and give it to the next person
Its not a dedicated server
Double it again
80kg pc
so in your own unique, unintuitive, and unhelpful self determined requirements it's a "dedicated server" despite being in direct opposition to the standard definition of the word
Idek how much mine weighs but I know it hurts to lift, and I dont by any means have a crazy system
guys why are we fighitng
Chill out, he doesn’t understand most of the words you just used
the guy knows its not a dedicated server, hes just calling it that beacuse thats just what ark calls it
clearly his english isnt the best, i think theres just some misunderstanding between language barriers
idk man he seems like a genuine child to me
i know im fucked up in the head but damn
Yeah, it shows on that list bc its using the software to host a dedicated server when he isnt settings it up to be a dedicated server
You missed a lot
what i miss?
read down from here #tech-chat-1 message
A lot of not knowing anything and acting cocky while expecting help
a yapfest of utmost zero importance whatsoever
it has always been nihilism
It goes further up than that too lol
Is it normal for a psu to be warm to the touch on the back
Yes
Bwhen should i be concerned?
Bcs my psu is gonna be risky for a month
When it turns off
I see
personally i think of #public-chat as the pmo chat and TC1 as the children’s playground
im not gentle at all
anyways i kinda want that msi mag a850gs for no good reason at all but for the zero fan mode
do i need it? no, i just want it
my 5090 still refuses to have auto fan stop, i gave up since the other fix is an unstable driver regression
is that for your gpu or your power supply? im talking about the power supply
its just a possible fix not confirmed
like fans stop when low wattage on power supply
yes 5090 is a gpu
you got wallpaper engine?
mine did that too until i disabled wallpaper engine
yes, having that off did nothing lmao
weird
it consumes the same wattage as off anyway
for me i was confused, low gpu usage, low wattage,
it starts with the fans off, but when i launch game and exit out of game, the fan doesnt go below 30%
its likely just the driver issue, had a guy with it working again after downloading an older vers driver
this is until i quit wallpaper engine and instantly the fans went off
my gpu was idling at 25 degrees celsius because the fans were constantly on lol
my gpu eats 70w idle
isnt there a threshold for fans to stop spinning?
Based on temperature, yeah
i set fan curves to 0rpm till 50c- doesnt work at all
i thought it was also having ot be below 50 watts
i know people had issues running multiple high resolution displays beacuse the gpu was eating too much wattage, even when it was low temp[s
typically zero rpm auto modes are primarily related to temperature
I can force it to 0 rpm but only once per system startup
thats what i thought, but i seen a few sources say its temp based as well as power
could be wrong
just that ive seen some people mention that theirs wont shut off with high wattage anyways
my 9070xt is entirely temperature based, wouldnt come on till 50c
which is basically from 150w or sustained 100w+
idk about my 4070 super, when im not gaming it doesnt go over 50 wattage so idk
as for temps uh mine turns on at 45 degrees
Are you just not using it?
I can see mine since VGPU mount
i meant when just browsing web ect
when im not gaming*
I see
im just happy that i figured out why my gpu fans woulddnt stop spinning at low temps 
whats ur experience with auto fan stop if any just curious, wondering if anyone else is having this problem so I can just directly correlate it to drivers
actually you knwo what, let me test wallpaper engine and see my wattage
Mine just does it tbh, by default
Maybe try msi afterburner, it has that option to turn it on or off if you haven't
yours dont turn off either?
my 5090 refuses to auto fan stop and it fucking sucks balls ive tried like everything
Damn, perhaps try a custom fan curve
it can be at like 35c below 50w, not doing anything and its still going
strange
ive tried custom fan curves as well, no go
Thats odd
is it stuck at 30% speed?
had a guy say auto rpm mode got fixed with older driver but that driver isnt suitable for me
Im not sure. Does ur card have duel bios?
yes, minimum speed is 30%
yeaa mine was like that too
issue persists on both
Damn, yeah idk since you tried everything id try
is the nvidia apps gpu power accurate? if anyone knows
ahhh, i dont really look at like my stats cosntantly, so i never isntalled msi ab
i just stuck with the nvidia stuff beacuse i have overlay on anyways for my clips
im talking standard 1ms monitoring from msiab so ye
so with wallpaper engine on, 36 watts, not over 50
i stopped gaming, temps cooling down still bu at 30 celsius
fans will not stop spinning
im running 1440p 360hz and 1080p 100hz, wallpaper engine up or not its the same wattage
like 5 seconds after i close wallpaper engine, fans alwayus turn off
animated wallpapers use resources
yea, uh have you tried using a lower resolution?
i meant uh refresh rate*
lower refresh rate, just to test if the fans stop when using a lower refresh rate
idk i used lively wallpaper, could be possible W.E is more optimised
but yeah idk about the low res thing
and on 3 dispplays as well
i remember seeing someone mention they fixed theirs beacuse their monitors refresh rate was too high, causing gpu to use more resources or something
cant say, but res gotta affect it the most
oh 🤔 but that shouldnt be a thing since the video itself is 60 fps
i agree, i mean i dont think refresh rate should affecte it much, but im just going off from how someone managed to fix theirs
not a big fan of animated wp's since my system makes it noticable when im using it
🤷♂️
i mean maybe this is a one off case but seems like they got theirs fixed
worth a try to see if thats whats causing the issue, that way at least you know
im just sticking to no wallpaper effects tbh
maybe it may not use extra resources
fair enough
my wallpaper engines effect was legit just white particles going across my screen, almost like snow, reacted faster with audio
no other animations besides from that, so not having it is not a big deal for me
just happy i figured out what the issue was after trouble shooting for so long
alright byebye
i got this randomly when booting, i put the code and it told me no wifi connection, i dont have an ethernet cable cuz im on vacation, what to do
120w xiaomi once costs like 20 euros
hey guys, what are the reasons not to set my browsers memory saver to 30 seconds?
Goldfish?
my new mother board has a 2x4 pin power connector that looks like it's a pcie, what is it
I only have 3 pcies for my GPU
a 2x4pin CPU power connector
there are 2 of those already at the top
picture of the connector
this one's at the bottom
i was about to ask wtf is wrong with your motherboard, wheres the ram slots and the cpu socket?
but then i realised
its upside down
it shows how to connect the CPU cooler lmao
it doesn't help me at all
if I had nitro I would add the pepe point emoji
x870e edge ti wifi
remo's fan control, have a try with that
that one?
I'm swapping my CPU and when taking out CPU cooler I took of top two screws and the CPU cooler popped out from the top the one of the other screws isn't coming out from the bottom and I can't put back into place am I fcked
yeh cuz only 96w
It's a stock cooler and it's my first time doing this rlly upset
i meant the emoji
it's a pcie power cable but for what? the online manual shows what it is
people say its to provide stable power to the slot to hepl with transient spikes, not needed unless youre over clocking tf out of a 5090 or something
basically rich people motherboard feature
it is indeed 8pin pcie
my guess is for pcie slot power
ah
this yes, i guess it helps also if youre running multiple gpus i think
this is just insane but expected
Welp, hope you know your bitlocker code bc if not, you just lost everything
Push it back into place then unscrew the bottom two screws
in future you should slowly unscrew all 4 screws switching between screws multiple times so that doesn't happen
what are these so called "other parts" that are being neglected?
that one i believe is actually an extra pcie connector for the bottom slot
yup it is dude
idek what a bitlocker code is
It locks down your drive
oh
You gotta have the code or else its locked
basically your harddrive is encrypted, so unless you know the code, all that data is irrecoverable
is that something you set or is that on every hard drive?
correct'
something you set
oh yea anyone got an answer for this?
it's a code for bitlocker to unlock/lock a drive or 2
Its something you turned on
ohhh okay good
Not really, you gotta have the code to turn it off
Yeah most MSI X870E mobos come with 8 pin PCI-E connectors for PCI-E slot power
no i meant, i dont need to worry about it if i dont turn it on right?
idk how it works, ive never heard of a bitllooker before
You gotta have the code or else you lost everything
it's already turned on, so you now need the code to unlock the drive
Your system keeps up with it until you replace the motherboard or cpu
what did he lock
read the whole conversation
wait so how do i know what my bitlocker code is?
You should have saved it when you first enabled it
Bios
bit locker
oh nono, this is what i meant, i meant if i didnt turn on bitlocker for my drives, i dont need to worryu abouyt it locking right?
you can also follow the instructions on the screen it shows
i had that on as well but i disabled it
Correct, but it's already on
oh..
You can also check your Microsoft account
so its on by default?
No
It is fully popped out I can't unless extreme pressure
the problem is not turning it off the problem for now is how is he gonna unlock it
It was turned on already
use that pressure then while simultaneously trying to unscrew it
Should I use pliers once it gets started it's ez to unscrew but I just can't get that one to start that why I left it last
but i never turned it on? if its not on by default, and i never turned it on / had knowledge of a bitlocker, how is it on?
why on earth would you use a pair of pliers
It's not moving with normal screw and it's the big plastic amd stock cooler ones
You will know its turned on once you get the pop up
picture
thats what he mean
its turned on by default
eh what
eh no
eh ok
wait are you saying its on for the other guy who actually did lock his bitlocker?
or are you saying its already on for me?
for him
It is already on for you
ohhhhh
i guess
Its not on by default but the other guy turned it on
what
ehhhh?
for me it was turned on by default
oh this guy, yeah this dude has bitlocker on
i think its on by default on laptops
were you replying to me instaed of the other guy, thinking i was the one who got my bitlocker locked?
yes
you'd have to manually enable it, it's never on by default
damn okay you had me stressed
well i didnt 🤔
you cant say you did and you forgot
bro i thought you were replying to me the whole time
thats why i was so confused getting 2 different answers from multiple people
until i had to create some partition and i found out i cant cuz it was locked
so i had to deencrypt it
i was like, i dont remember turning it on, and if i did i have no idea what i set it to
wdym by set it to?
the uhhhh locker uhh password
I was talking about bitlocker to you lol
is the pass your choice idk i never tried lmao
it should be
nono, iroh was replying to me, tell me its already on for me think i was the one who posted the picture of the bitlocker screen
Oh lol
had me stressed thinking i actually had it on
you can see it here
but then you were telling me its something i had to set, and its not on by default, so that confused me evne more
This is probably a really stupid question but are there any issues using molex splitters at all? Working on an arcade machine restoration at the moment and the new power supply has 2 molex connections and I need 4 to do what I need to do
there will be a lock sign instead of windows i think
good to know
what country?
you can deencrypt if you have it anyways
USA
so nothing to worry about
i dont think ill ever turn it on
yeah kinda useless
no one is ever going to steal your nvme
what the fu-
@rigid fjord do ytou have a zero fan mode psu?
Thank you so much!
kindest person on discord
What would be a good price for a 3060 12gb
nope, not built into my rm850x, mine will eventually ramp up once it goes past it's point of around 80% max draw
200, anything more than that and it's a hard no
oh
Then I guess 150-170 is a decent deal?
that's more reasonable for it, though if you don't need the use of cuda, a 6600xt/6700 are better options tbh
i unprofessionally approve this
And which one doesn’t get hot? Nor has common failure points?
Hint; not the xiaomi
apple
np, it should give you what you want, and a spare one just in case on top of that
so easy
I'd rather have the extra 4gb tbh
Since a 6600 XT is by default 170-175
Also lots of delay </3
funny thing is, 6600xt performs better than the 3060, and also a 6700 is better
So.. I am better off just getting a 6600 XT?
wait bf6 gameplay is out
Is it worth getting the cheaper card even though it has 4gb less in VRAM
@rigid fjord
depends
Its interesting how more expensive chargers are more often than not; far better than their cheaper counterparts
well we talking about apple here
And?
1 display stand for 999
Apple is less expensive than the android equivalents of their iphones
🤔


