tech-chat-1

[wet atlas]

It was working 20 minutes ago

[pallid temple]

Brother.. its a 900-1000 euro build xd

[pallid temple]

How do u know?

[tidal geyser]

cool so it fits in the budget

[tidal geyser]

restart it

[wet atlas]

I did

[tidal geyser]

gib nother pic of pc

[bitter crater]

https://tweakers.net/best-buy-guide/desktops/beste-1080p-game-pc here's a guide with a 9060 xt for about 930 euro (tho i would get a bigger psu)

[wet atlas]

It’s a Msi pre built

Lil overkill for work but eh

[tidal geyser]

so a 88w cpu and a like 200w gpu use over 550w??

[pallid temple]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/xNgPkf

[tidal geyser]

xd love that

[bitter crater]

gotta watch out for those usage spikes tho

but i guess its fine with these parts

[random gyro]

is 1440p 144hz too much for my 7600X and 6750 XT? (-26 offset)

[tidal geyser]

what 200w spikes???

[solid osprey]

if a pc like that actually pulled 550w the entire time the electricity bill wouldnht be cheap

[tidal geyser]

modern gpus do not spike as bad

[pallid temple]

But i see that 5060 and 9600xt are quite close. And i like nvidia more is it really worth going for amd then

[solid osprey]

550w is fine to use (i have one) but id get a bigger one incase u upgrade later

[tidal geyser]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/wLFX74

[solid osprey]

if i want a better gpu now i gotta shell out for a new psu too

[pallid temple]

Ive never heard about an b850 is it better?

[rigid fjord]

google drive > one drive

[tidal geyser]

not sure if i would call 10% better and 2X the vram close

[solid osprey]

nextcloud>

[tidal geyser]

its cheaper

[solid osprey]

selfhosted always no1

[rigid fjord]

that you add to any nas

[tidal geyser]

nextcloud is not self hosted?

nextcloud host it

[solid osprey]

icl who actually buys dedicated nases

[gleaming rose]

yes it is

[tidal geyser]

so the hardware is in your house

[rigid fjord]

eh, you can self host the OS for it on any nas you build dude

[formal sonnet]

In my experience, they both suck (I use Dropbox at home because it's platform agnostic and doesn't clobber my files when it detects sync conflicts, though it's $$$) BUT really... The best cloud services are the ones that work with your other cloud services. If your business is using Google Suite, use Google drive. If your business is using M365, use OneDrive. If your business does anything remotely tied to legal processes, you must ensure whatever service you go with supports Litigation Hold controls.

[solid osprey]

why spend £500 on this when i can buy a £30 optiplex, and throw in a 10gig network card if i want

[tidal geyser]

wait aint nextcloud some kinda VPS kinda thing

[gleaming rose]

no it's a suite of integrated self-hosted applications with a management interface

[tidal geyser]

i literally listed a NAS with disks already setup and so on yesterday for that

[solid osprey]

how much was it

[rigid fjord]

that moment when linux users use google drive as the swap file 🤣

[tidal geyser]

o its overpriced as hell but its the price of some shitty 4GB 4 bay basic NAS

[rigid fjord]

nope, it's like using google cloud services/icloud but you're the one hosting it yourself

[formal sonnet]

Oh god. Pls no. But also, that's hilarious AF to think about.

[solid osprey]

this isbt bad tbh but like optiplex still better

[tidal geyser]

so nextcloud is just hosting the management interface

[rigid fjord]

you host that yourself

[gleaming rose]

you host it all

[gleaming rose]

nextcloud is the platform that you self-host

[tidal geyser]

this shit

[pallid temple]

Is the vram needed? I dont play too many hard running games

[gleaming rose]

wtf is homeslice doing that needs 470g of ram

[wet atlas]

When it turns on it goes to a automatic repair

So I don’t think it’s a gpu issue

[tidal geyser]

very

[solid osprey]

could just use this instead, get a sata controller, hook up 4 drives

[pallid temple]

In what kind of games?

[tidal geyser]

that can only fit 1 3.5 aint it

[tidal geyser]

anything modern

[solid osprey]

yeah but you can just leave the drives sitting outside

[tidal geyser]

my 8GB card in my laptop is having a HARD HARD time even at 1080p

[solid osprey]

they dont really need to be inside

[tidal geyser]

well

you would also need to hope the board can do 40w

[solid osprey]

looks mint

[tidal geyser]

from something meant for 15

[solid osprey]

i have one of those optiplexes the psu is only 180w

[tidal geyser]

not the psu

well ok fine HDDs maybe are just straight to the psu

[solid osprey]

hold on let me check where the sata powers from

[tidal geyser]

the board

its always the board but im not sure if 12v is just straight

5v and 3.3 is 100% coming from some buck converter or something

[solid osprey]

it is the board

[tidal geyser]

no shit when is it not

[solid osprey]

lmao

i forgot

[tidal geyser]

i have yet to see a OEM desktop not using the board as 12VO is just better

[rigid fjord]

overkill using pcie x4 for 6x sata ports tbh

[tidal geyser]

what if he put it in a pcie 2 board

[rigid fjord]

it'll run at pcie x2

which would be fine for that tbh

[solid osprey]

found one with external sata

[tidal geyser]

does anyone even have anything e-sata

[rigid fjord]

pcie x1 which is fine for that

[left dove]

like, early-gen synology w/ disk shelf expanders..

(I still think it was fucking stupid to do)

[tidal geyser]

e-sata just makes no sense

[rigid fjord]

remember those icydock docks?

[left dove]

esata's garbage lmao, it's more flimsy than sata itself

[left dove]

YEP

[tidal geyser]

i have never once seen a single device with it

[rigid fjord]

external ones of that to it

[left dove]

I've seen some old external drives with it eons ago

[tidal geyser]

im too young '

[left dove]

but there's a reason why it died as fast as it got implemented

[tidal geyser]

there is such a insane amount things i see the port on

my server case has it so so so so many older boards has it

[rigid fjord]

esata + usb 3 @left dove

[left dove]

god ew

[rigid fjord]

not as cool as the internal sata/oculink ones i shown previously

[vast bronze]

whats wrong, my ethernet should be working perfectly fine

newly built computer if that helps

[left dove]

I saw some 4-bays with sas connectors

[raw trout]

When was the last time u updated

[rigid fjord]

you need to ensure steam is set for online mode, and to check that your ethernet has a cable inserted fully

[vast bronze]

like 2 seconds ago i just built it

[vast bronze]

how do i check steam online mode

[tidal geyser]

how did you install steam so quick

where did you install steam from

[rigid fjord]

this should show as go online

[left dove]

flash drive, prob

[vast bronze]

thing is steam just isnt opening

i havent actually installed it if im explaining myself right

[tidal geyser]

he cant even open it

[solid osprey]

happened to me yesterday check task manager and close steam from there

and then try opening it

its still in the background

[rigid fjord]

said icydock dock's i mean for being cool

[tidal geyser]

lets hope he is not dumb enough to be using the old disk from a old pc without reinstlling

as that would be so idiotic

[tidal geyser]

m.2s are cheaper then 2.5

[raw trout]

I wish my computer had enough data power cables

[left dove]

I really just want a stack of icydock's stuff tbh

[vast bronze]

its a brand new ssd😭

[raw trout]

Sata*

[rigid fjord]

mine can have that easily

[raw trout]

What brand

[raw trout]

I have a OEM 😭

[vast bronze]

teamgroup mp44l

[raw trout]

Why no brand SSD?

[left dove]

use your phone to download ethernet drivers for your motherboard, plug the phone into the pc, transfer the file, install, boom done

[rigid fjord]

i know you salivate over this one the most

[tidal geyser]

why not just use the phone for the wifi driver or ethernet

[vast bronze]

i did that with a flash drive does doing it with my phone change anything?

[left dove]

reboot if you've been installing drivers

[rigid fjord]

the u.2 docks for them are not compared to sata ones

[tidal geyser]

usb ethernet tethering is fun

[raw trout]

Usb or bluetooth tethering

[left dove]

I'm trying to keep it simple, dude

[rigid fjord]

hba's and sata expansion cards exist

[raw trout]

My 2 pcie slots and ssd are populated 😭

[left dove]

this w/ an lsi 4-port filled with a bunch of 2tb ssds

[solid osprey]

with what

[orchid trellis]

Is it possible to solder 16 EL wires in parallel without issue and have them all using 1 connector?

[raw trout]

Tp link ax1800 pcie adapter and one pcie to m.2 adapter

My older pc has more slots but I don't use it anymore cuz it's slower than a snail

[rigid fjord]

it's possible, but there is a possible issue, primarily power

[solid osprey]

oh k

[frigid blade]

wow building an actual proper RC plane is expensive

[orchid trellis]

I dont think EL wires take that much power and each wire is only going to be like <6” long

[rigid fjord]

then you see how much it costs for rc cars and boats

[frigid blade]

idk how the chinese sellers sell the little ones for $40

and less

[raw trout]

Watch family guy you will know

[rigid fjord]

@raw trout there, goofy for you

[raw trout]

No I meant this

[left dove]

https://global.icydock.com/product_82.html

[rigid fjord]

if they're that short then most likely not, still though, i would use a multimeter just to check the power draw

[wild steeple]

it would have looked whole lot better if he put some cusion between hammee and laptop to prevent scratch

[tidal geyser]

you can see he tried to get it out

[rigid fjord]

basically the same one i already use for holding a multilayer dvd rw and multi card reader

[gloomy sleet]

anyone else have this issue where firefox just decides not to open

and dont say "google it" because i literally cant lmao

[tidal geyser]

edge

[tidal geyser]

restart the pc

[gloomy sleet]

i have

[tidal geyser]

skill issue

[rigid fjord]

https://global.icydock.com/product_80.html @left dove

[tidal geyser]

holy hell i have not played any games on my main pc for a week

[rigid fjord]

you have a phone, you can still google it

[gloomy sleet]

wtf is wrong with firefox why is it in russian

might try just deleting it then using winget

[rigid fjord]

@tidal geyser bets on it being a virus?

[gloomy sleet]

oik ive managed to open it

its not in russian

but its still not working

it just immediately stops responding

[bitter crater]

hmm my antivirus just flagged Razer software as a suspicious program and deleted it...

[gloomy sleet]

i can confirm its not a virus

[rigid fjord]

your antivirus just saved you from a keylogger

[gloomy sleet]

since i just reinstalled it

[idle vessel]

javascript is shockingly helpful when learning c

If statements are the same bro...

[rigid fjord]

the small print you failed to read @bitter crater

[gloomy sleet]

there isnt typically only 3 proccesses

ill try wingetting the american version

[tidal geyser]

maybe stop them and try to open it again

[gloomy sleet]

uninstall menu is also in russian

[gloomy sleet]

i did that like 3 times

[tidal geyser]

maybe its time for you to stop pirating

[gentle kestrel]

who pirates firefox

[gloomy sleet]

i havent pirated anything this month

ill run a virus scan then winget firefox

[rigid fjord]

he pirated other shit

[tidal geyser]

you do know malware does not need to visible the instant you activate it

[idle vessel]

yep lets pirate foss software

[gloomy sleet]

it only started being russian when i did winget install mozilla.firefox.uk

im good microsoft

[tidal geyser]

why did you use winget

[gloomy sleet]

no viruses according to windows defender

[gloomy sleet]

faster then using edge

i also run winget install Mozilla.firefox.uk last time i installed it

ill just get Mozilla.firefox this time i guess

[sleek ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-you-are-a-pirate-lazytown-robby-rotten-pirates-gif-5693032399787985578

[gloomy sleet]

its still just not opening

[rigid fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/disney-movies-quotes-potc-pirates-of-the-caribbean-gif-14851127

[gloomy sleet]

says theres 3 proccesses but no actual window

its in a language i can understand at least now

idk why the uk version was in russian

ok firefox safe mode opens

and works

it just works normally now??

literally 0 issues now amazing

[random gyro]

this randomly popped up on my PC a while ago and it never goes away. anyone have any tips as to what this is?

[tidal geyser]

alt+r

[gloomy sleet]

wait alt r is the default one?

[random gyro]

wow im dumb

[tidal geyser]

has been since it came out yea

[random gyro]

but thank you guys

[gentle kestrel]

nvidia perf overlay, alt r to shut it off/on

[gloomy sleet]

if you wanna change it you can press alt z then the settings and shortcut controls

[random gyro]

appreciate the quick solution. i had no idea how it got there

[gloomy sleet]

you can see every other shortcut there too

bruh

its doing the exact same thing again

[pastel cosmos]

Hi is any 1 familiar with Samsung Galaxy parts?

[tidal geyser]

1

[gloomy sleet]

not opening then opening sometimes in safe mode then working perfectly fine in normal then stops working when i click off it

[tidal geyser]

also what is that meant to mean

[gloomy sleet]

press close then it just doesnt open the new page

[pastel cosmos]

Basically the difference between the two of these

[tidal geyser]

what model are you replacing

[gloomy sleet]

13 pounds for a charging port isnt that bad

[pastel cosmos]

Unsure as not opened this phone yet but my device is SM-S928B

[tidal geyser]

then go for the be and hope for the best

[pastel cosmos]

Yeah just what the R - Version was

[latent tundra]

what kind of test that should be done after receiving a refurbished drive, be it SSD or HDD

[tidal geyser]

revision?

[tidal geyser]

long smart test

[latent tundra]

a bit curious especially after that one video where they said they're now starting to get a re certified drive for their server videos

[latent tundra]

1. how long
2. with what software

[tidal geyser]

what nasOS did you plan to run

[latent tundra]

not for NAS btw

[tidal geyser]

you said HDD

[dense gyro]

It says I have no bootable devices even tho in storage information it displays it

[tidal geyser]

did you install windows?

[latent tundra]

be it SSD or HDD

[dense gyro]

Yea

[tidal geyser]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1027757333117415424

[latent tundra]

is it a Laptop?

[tidal geyser]

SSD cant be simpler, its just crystal disk info

[gloomy sleet]

i just pressed cancel opened a third page to go into safe mode to trigger crash reporter to appear then i factory reset firefox

after all of that it temporarily works

[latent tundra]

some Intel Laptops require you to put the Intel Rapid Storage driver file on the Windows install media

[latent tundra]

no need to run test?

[tidal geyser]

what test

[gloomy sleet]

crystal disk mark id assume

[latent tundra]

SMART?

[tidal geyser]

all crystal disk info does is read the S.M.A.R.T data from the disks

[tidal geyser]

smart is on the disk itself???

[dense gyro]

Not a laptop

[tidal geyser]

make a post in tech support and wait

[latent tundra]

well ight then

[storm mist]

Why at 3:25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmg0jikmvi0 does this unit have 8533 mhz ram?
I have same laptop but mine has 8000 ram

[dense gyro]

But I had my pc running for 3 years lol so idk 🤷‍♀️

[tidal geyser]

a SSD does not really have anything more then nand health and just the controller itself that can check for issues

[tidal geyser]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1027757333117415424

[azure topaz]

get me some red october’s

[tidal geyser]

i think jag has a lga 1700 bios so old it does not have rebar or something

[clear canyon]

Ur boot drive died

You need a new drive

Everything stored on that boot drive is gone

[late path]

Hello

[late path]

Maybe...maybe not

Maybe some part is corrupted but rest still there

Who knows

[clear canyon]

No, its dead

[tidal geyser]

it did not

he just fucked with the bios

[kindred halo]

@rigid fjord The B550M is out of stock </3

I think I'll just get the A520M-HVS

[faint flower]

arc b580 or rtx 5060?

[gentle kestrel]

with what cpu

[faint flower]

r5 5600

[clear canyon]

Oh, achi isnt on lol

[gentle kestrel]

i'd go 5060 then

[clear canyon]

Or raid

[faint flower]

k

[tidal geyser]

9060 xt

[gentle kestrel]

arc cards have an issue with cpu overhead

[faint flower]

thanks

[tidal geyser]

nope tried to use secure boot

[gentle kestrel]

yeah 9060 xt could be an option too

[faint flower]

too expensive

[tidal geyser]

used 3080

[kindred halo]

9060 XT is marginally better

[faint flower]

the 3080 pulls too much power

[tidal geyser]

i dono if i would call 10% marginal

[gentle kestrel]

5060 will be fine honestly, vram is a bit tight but

[tidal geyser]

what psu'

[kindred halo]

I was thinking of the wrong benchmarks,,,,, </3

[faint flower]

550w

[gentle kestrel]

if you're playing at 1080p its fine

[faint flower]

i am

[kindred halo]

Which one

[tidal geyser]

used 4060 ti 16GB

[faint flower]

thanks for the help will wait for a sale

👍

[clear canyon]

If its not that, then the drive is dead, idk any other optipn that wont accept a drive

[peak pilot]

any gpu upgrade reccomendations? i have a gtx 660 and an i5 4570

[faint flower]

the 16gb versions are very expensive even used ones

[tidal geyser]

need more then a gpu but i guess rtx 2060 or rx uhh 5500 xt

[tidal geyser]

rx 6700 xt

[gentle kestrel]

i wouldn't take the slower card for more vram personally

[tidal geyser]

i would considering some games do not even want to start up with low vram

most just look like ass or the performance is so bad you wanna die

[gentle kestrel]

dlss, 15% more raster perf vs fsr and 4gb of vram

[formal sonnet]

With that CPU, I wouldn't upgrade much beyond an RTX 2060/3060 or RX 6700 XT card. You've got 3 months left running Windows 10 on that platform too, so it might be time to upgrade the whole system, if you're running Windows on it, that is.

[gentle kestrel]

by the time im cranking up settings to fill up the framebuffer the 6700xt is already leaving much to be desired

[tidal geyser]

dlss needs some vram

dlss is not just some magic it too needs vram to work

[gentle kestrel]

yeah and it would still fit in an 8gb buffer at 1080 fine

[tidal geyser]

i have a 8GB card in my laptop and play at 1080p, games really would like more vram

8GB is just downright not enough

[faint flower]

i think the 5060 is the safest option for my budget

[tidal geyser]

you go for what ya wanna go for

[faint flower]

yes i know and i thank you for the help

very nice of you 😁

[strange atlas]

If anybody understands how to eliminate flies please help
#public-chat message

[late path]

Yeah see creeperhead you dumb dumb I was right I was finally right

[gentle kestrel]

used 3080 and a new psu would be fire but out of the ~$300 new tier i'd take the 5060 over an fsr3 card all day

[faint flower]

i just recently bought the psu

[late path]

If it's a butterfly it won't harm you but if it's anything else I'd run like there was no tommorow.
- another person scared of insects bugs and similar

[peak pilot]

i am running windows but i’m considering the switch to linux

[lusty remnant]

are micro atx cases easy to swap parts on?

[rigid fjord]

it's called a fly zapper, you get them for cafes

[tidal geyser]

well the specs are not gonna become better

[tidal geyser]

wat

[strange atlas]

Its been 2-3 hours i'm scared for my life

[peak pilot]

yeah but i’ve had issues with windows for ages

[strange atlas]

its big big butterfly

[trim gyro]

same as ATX

[rigid fjord]

open a window then instead

[strange atlas]

i need it for this exact moment

[gentle kestrel]

you could probably get like a 5600(x) and an am4 board for fairly cheap used as a platform upgrade though

[tidal geyser]

mayhaps could it be something about you using like 12 year old parts

[strange atlas]

Doesnt go out since nobody around puts up lights

[rigid fjord]

not for a butterfly, but for any other kind of fly sure

[peak pilot]

you’re right

[strange atlas]

Its this exact species

[peak pilot]

but surely that doesn’t stop me from resetting my pc

[rigid fjord]

you should uninstall yoursel and be upgraded to hwinfo

[trim gyro]

how did you get a monarch butterfly in your home

[rigid fjord]

so a red admiral

or what 15ice said

[strange atlas]

i dont evven know what this is i just typed big butterfly and it actually came out :d

But it smacks itself to walls and monitors

[rigid fjord]

it's harmless, being scared of it is dumb

[trim gyro]

it's a vulnerable species

[strange atlas]

i'm sorry that i'm scared but nothing i can do i am really scared

i dont want to kill it but i dont know any other way

[rigid fjord]

grow a spine, that's something you can do

[strange atlas]

i cant get close

[trim gyro]

accept certain death

write a will or something

[left dove]

the most its gonna do is flap at you

[strange atlas]

might do that

[strange atlas]

dont even want to think of it

[left dove]

to kill it is a frivolous waste of life

[strange atlas]

Thats the problem i cant even kill i have no way of getting close to it without knowing that its dead

[strange atlas]

how many days can these live

[left dove]

STOP HURTING IT

god you big baby

[bitter crater]

just take a flashlight, turn off all lights inside and go outside with the flashlight. it'll follow the light

[strange atlas]

Did you read what i typed i dont do anything to it

[rigid fjord]

eh.....

[rigid fjord]

all summer, and almost all autumn

[strange atlas]

i tought they live for less than 24 hours

what the hell

[rigid fjord]

no, these are butterflies, not mayflies

butterflies are completely harmless

[strange atlas]

i know thats why i dont want to do any harm to it

i just want it gone

[rigid fjord]

they're actually fun to have landed on your hands/arms

[strange atlas]

I'm sorry i ccant put fun and bugs in the same sentence

[rigid fjord]

they're as fun as having a dragonfly land on you

fun and colourful

[strange atlas]

Even if they are colorful its still scary for me i love animals i can sleep with any like dog breeds or anything but not insects/bugs

I would feel a lot safer

[bronze pewter]

god pc is complete

[wraith pumice]

hi all, whats a good laptop for a stand in for a typical top tier tower. I'm moving and won't be able to set my tower up for awhile.

[rigid fjord]

there is no laptop that can match a high end pc

at best, you could get one to match more of a mid range pc spec

[wraith pumice]

i know but a as close as possible while still being reasonable is the goal

[rigid fjord]

you're better off looking at one that matches more to lower end/mid range setups

[thorn pewter]

Get a mobile 9950x3d and 5090 if you are reaching for the best

[bronze pewter]

just get a 4050/4060 laptop it's fine

[wraith pumice]

i havent used a laptop for more than school pretty much ever. so i'm very ignorant when it comes to laptops

[rigid fjord]

and yet, it'll never match anything more than a mid range pc

[thorn pewter]

Yeah thermal and power designs really suck

[wraith pumice]

im no esports player so i dont need it to be that top tier but something that i wont feel too hamstrung on is the hope.

[rigid fjord]

look at a system using an 8845hs with no more than a 4070/5070

[thorn pewter]

At that price point it would be more convienr to build a real 5090 and 9950x3d build and just buy anither laptop and then stream the strong pc to that laptop ig

[wraith pumice]

which companies are best etc? i've built my last 4 towers so im really outa my element when it comes to laptops

[rigid fjord]

a good laptop with the specs i sugested with have upgradability on the ram and mobo

[rigid fjord]

model line, not brand name

[wraith pumice]

so assembler company doesnt really matter only components?

[rigid fjord]

like a legion 5 with the specs i suggested, or rog scar with the specs

[rigid fjord]

there are multiple factors that can affect a laptop, power and upgradability is a couple of them

[wraith pumice]

ok cool thats a really good jumping off point, thank you!

[rigid fjord]

battery life is a concern for many

especially when you want to use one on the go

[strange atlas]

By the way does macbooks have touchscreen

[trim gyro]

no

macbook will never have a touchscreen as long as iPad exists

[strange atlas]

But it uses same components with ipad no?

[limber shale]

how bad is this delta

[rigid fjord]

not really, considering what you're suggesting is someone paying 3-4k for a pc and then a further 500-2k for a laptop

[strange atlas]

not at all

[wraith pumice]

i dont expect to use it on the go, just figured itd be a better option than buying a prebuilt tower kit until i get mine up to canada where im movin

[limber shale]

this is at 0% fanspeed during space marines 2

[strange atlas]

how

[rigid fjord]

the same cpu with many but not the same hardware in general

[strange atlas]

Mine cant get that even at %100

[limber shale]

gpu has overkill heatsink and case fans are set to 100

[strange atlas]

got it i tought its mostly same thats why i was wondering wouldnt it be better to get ipad and turn it use it as mac

but its not smae its not worth it than

[strange atlas]

how do you stay inside the room

I'm using 11 fans on my pc and they are at like %45-50 all the time

even than i cant stay in the room but my temps are still high

[limber shale]

compared to a 4060

[limber shale]

because noise or?

my ambient temp during the day is usually 28-35 C so during the night even with the pc its not that bad

[strange atlas]

noise

[rigid fjord]

for example, and you could upgrade the ram on this while adding extra drives to it

[limber shale]

if i set it to 100% it sounds like a jet engine

[strange atlas]

I'm living in a tight place so its always high

[rigid fjord]

you need to set a proper fan curve on both the case fans and the gpu/cpu

[grizzled frost]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-lois-griffin-peter-whats-wrong-i-dont-know-lois-gif-15198663198866060579

[limber shale]

case is quiet even at 100%

[rigid fjord]

this is not what you use when it comes to amd gpu's

[limber shale]

while gpu is loud af

[hazy nexus]

is g502 a reliable mouse i had 2 g402 before and one of them has issues where the side buttons write numbers and middle click doesnt work and the other one double clicks and middle click doesnt work too the first one was used for 3 years the secound one for just 16 months i cant afford to buy a mouse a year or two

[sleek ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-sunrise-sun-face-wacky-gif-6198132

Fan RPM

[limber shale]

ik i use adrenalin

[rigid fjord]

it's reliable enough, but tbh, you could fix the mice

[hazy nexus]

i will fix them but i still wand a mouse i dont have to fix so often

[grizzled frost]

WLMouse Mice are nice

[hazy nexus]

i wand a big mouse thats comfortable i dont realy play competative or any fps

[rigid fjord]

use this

[grizzled frost]

ultralight mice are the pinacle of comfort, i genuinely can't stand my old logitech G305 now

[hazy nexus]

also they are expensive

[grizzled frost]

the frame style also helps with sweat if you get sweaty hands like me

[grizzled frost]

and last forever if you take care of them

[hazy nexus]

i dont realy sweat i mostly play calmer games where i dont stress out

[azure topaz]

only if you want them to be

[grizzled frost]

i wish that was the case for me, with traditional mice my hands sweat no matter what

[azure topaz]

https://www.amazon.com/ATTACK-SHARK-X3-Lightweight-programmable/dp/B0CCHY6YR8?th=1

38$ for a basically 1:1 superlight clone

for amazon thats pretty good

[grizzled frost]

the conversation was about WLMouse mice specifically, so they are expensive

[azure topaz]

i use the same mouse at work and its great it feels exactly like a superlight

[azure topaz]

thats fair but like beastX is expensive for a reason

[rigid fjord]

meanwhile me and adding more weight to it due to it feeling to light in my hands still

[azure topaz]

wlmouse is like the highest of the high end almost

BeastX with the magnesium shell bussttt

[grizzled frost]

it so nice tho...

[azure topaz]

yeah before i bought my scyroxx v8 i was going to get a wl beastX

[grizzled frost]

I have a beastX mini and love it to bits

the only issue i have with it, is it needs LoS with the dongle for good connection

[azure topaz]

https://www.rtings.com/mouse/reviews/scyrox/v8

[grizzled frost]

not a big deal, but something to keep in mind

[azure topaz]

gross

[hazy nexus]

rn im using some megatron ah 15 bucks mouse its not that terrible it was still in the box and after an hour of ussage it stopped glowing

[azure topaz]

but tbf my dongle is like on my desk

in front of my mouse so i dont think thatss a big deal

[grizzled frost]

Thats where i have my dongle RN

[azure topaz]

yea

[hazy nexus]

i love my cpu temps the ussage is only 30%

[bitter crater]

using your cpu to cook your dinner?

[grizzled frost]

remount your cooler

[hazy nexus]

the record temp is like 140

[hazy nexus]

its like that for 2 years its fine also its laptop

i will get pc on the end of this year

[grizzled frost]

140c ain't normal

[hazy nexus]

so it has to survive just 5 months

15w 90C damn lighbulb probably does better

im turning furmark on let the cpu cook

is furmark gpu only?

[kindred halo]

By pure luck, the places I am buying from are all within a ~30 minute drive (16 maximum by Google but doubled just incase)

I could probably grab everything within an hour or two

[tidal geyser]

Use hwinfo

[hazy nexus]

i turned on cinebench and the thermomether is stuck at 100.3

[hazy nexus]

what does it do?

[tidal geyser]

Hw info

Hardware information

[hazy nexus]

damn chernobyl looks simple compared to this

also i clicked english and its polish

[tidal geyser]

Press sensor

[hazy nexus]

how to change language?

is the cpu cooked i dont have any games open and its 85C

[tidal geyser]

It's meant to be high temp under low load

[hazy nexus]

so will it survive 5 more months?

[tidal geyser]

Tried the settings

[tidal geyser]

Maybe

[jaunty apex]

Ryzen runs hot because it pushes itself to its thermal limits for performance

Why it's 130C idk

[tidal geyser]

At 7w?

[hazy nexus]

well the thermal protection doesnt work with cpu and gpu

[tidal geyser]

The app he uses is pure bullshit

[tidal geyser]

Kill me

[plain cypress]

mascot bundle so worth it

[tidal geyser]

Stop lying

You do not deserve electronics

If it had no thermal protections it would be dead

[jaunty apex]

If it catches fire it does suddenly when gaming maybe. But yea^

[hazy nexus]

the gtx1660 when it war reaching 80C it was slowing down now after some time its now hitting 90C without trying to slow down to cool of

[tidal geyser]

Since it's at 90c

[jaunty apex]

90c is a 1660s limit

It thermal throttles at that point

[tidal geyser]

He probs is looking at hotspot

[tidal geyser]

83c

[jaunty apex]

Really? Huh. Had mine for couple years I didn't notice performance going down at that temp. Just screamed at me trying to keep up

[hazy nexus]

like 2 years ago it would just stop at 80c and newer go up it would just make my games go like 10fps for fee secounds

[azure topaz]

absolute fire

[azure topaz]

83c is when gpu boost stops wokring

[tidal geyser]

Repaste

[jaunty apex]

Not sure how much my card was boosting then lol.

[trim gyro]

for laptops, CPUs reaching 86C is not unheard of

[hazy nexus]

it was repasted a year ago also maybe the app was cooked itself hw info says its now 100c so maybe the app i was using did add fee degrees

no its the same

exactly the same

[tidal geyser]

It was badly repasted

[steel umbra]

why does it look like amongus or java mascot

[tidal geyser]

Use ptm

Or any pcm

[steel umbra]

not oem pcm5000 series

that's genuinely worse than a good tube of paste

[tidal geyser]

Thermaleight helios then

[steel umbra]

(you can find this in fake ptm7950 from aliexpress or such)

but i think it's usually pcm8000 series if it's fake ptm

which is good

[hazy nexus]

no i got a profesional to do it the cooler just bad also its not as bad as before repasting before repasting it did 140C i had a screen shot of it but i wot be able to find it

[steel umbra]

not as good as ptm7950

[south arrow]

[tidal geyser]

No cpu or GPU will ever ever get even close to 140c

[tidal geyser]

It is way easier to get with marginally small differences in cooling

[steel umbra]

yes the difference between ptm7950 and oem pcm8000 and whatever thermalright and upsiren probs oem pcm is tiny in most use cases

[terse dome]

how tf do i solve this i dont even live in either of these cities but because ip geolocation sucks so much its not letting me sign in

[steel umbra]

but pcm5000 is quite bit worse

[hazy nexus]

well belive or dont it did and there is proof of it somewere i will try to find it but probably wont

[terse dome]

Security code

[tidal geyser]

No it was not

If the app claimed it was then it is so trash to the point the maker should never touch a computer again

[hazy nexus]

i checked with hw info they display the same temp

[tidal geyser]

No

I wonder if hwinfo can even go to 140c

[tidal geyser]

Uninstall it

[steel umbra]

if any part of the cpu would detect 140 it would instantly shut down

[tidal geyser]

Even just 120

[steel umbra]

hwinfo is pretty accurate for most stats so i would believe it over some random piece of software i've never heard of

[hazy nexus]

well then i have proof i wont find because that was over a year ago so there is no proof that i did hit 140 and there is no proof it didnt

[steel umbra]

especially if it reports 140c

[steel umbra]

are you sure it wasn't 104c

[hazy nexus]

nope i remember sending it on my friends server and laugthing about it

i will try a bit ti find the screanshot but probably i wont

[random gyro]

I just seen a 7 month used 4090 for 400$?

[tidal geyser]

Ha

[tidal geyser]

Shit posting is not allowed here

[frigid blade]

It’s not really enforced

[tidal geyser]

Xd it is

[keen thistle]

I have a question real quick if anyone can answer, i just finished my PC build and you know mostly everything works fine but sometimes it just shuts off randomly like ill be in the middle of a game and it'll just shutdown like im not pressing anything but no matter what i try it wont stop

and i was womndering if anyone had any ideas what it could be

[tidal geyser]

Pic of pc

[keen thistle]

hold on my mom callin

nvm i gotta go sorry ill take a pic of it this afternoon

[tidal geyser]

Wat

[keen thistle]

im sorry i gotta go

[exotic trench]

would ryzen 5 9600x or ryzen 7 5700x3d be better for a cpu-intensive game like rust

[tidal geyser]

X3d by miles

[tidal geyser]

Already on am4?

[hazy nexus]

nah cant find it i probably send it on a server which got deleted i looked thro 20 servers there is like a new server every fee months and some of them just get deleted

[exotic trench]

yea

[tidal geyser]

Yea 5700x3d

I love how the 5600x3d beats the 14900ks in rust

[exotic trench]

is it like the best option for my situation ?

[tidal geyser]

How much rust

[exotic trench]

wdym

[tidal geyser]

Also best ofc is 9800x3d

[tidal geyser]

How much rust ya play

[exotic trench]

well rn its summer so some days i play for like 4-5 hours

i dont want to spend too much to upgrade tho

[tidal geyser]

With rust you just want to get a x3d no matter what

[exotic trench]

ok thanks

whats the reaosn for that?

[gentle kestrel]

mmos are this way too

large player count in one area, cache carries hard

[grizzled frost]

gaming benefits massively from the boost in L3 cache

[tidal geyser]

Some games a lot more

[tidal geyser]

Like I said

[hazy nexus]

is 5070 enough to play 4k at 60fps ultra setting in some like call of duty or somthing?

[gentle kestrel]

no you'll want more vram at 4k

[hazy nexus]

will the 9070 be better at 4k ultra raytracing than 5070?

[gentle kestrel]

can you push your budget to a 5070ti?

[hazy nexus]

i can try but it will be hard

[gentle kestrel]

nvidia cards have better rt cores but you'd want the 16gb of vram at 4k 100%

[grizzled frost]

by some amount, though you'd be better off with a 9070XT

shit i'm looking at raster, one sec

okay still applies in RT

[hazy nexus]

isnt amd planing? to make a new high end card?

[tidal geyser]

The difference from 5070 ti to 9070 xt in rt is like 20% so a bit but nothing insane

[gentle kestrel]

yeah and they're priced like $30 apart now

[tidal geyser]

They said they were not going to do it???

[gentle kestrel]

getting a 5070ti at msrp has been fairly easy now, frequent restocks at bestbuy/walmart

[gentle kestrel]

mlid said it so now people think it's true

even though he's unreliable

[hazy nexus]

in poland 5070 is almost 150 dolars cheaper than 9070

[hazy nexus]

idk just heard it somewere so just asking

[tidal geyser]

5070 non ti vs 9070 xt?

[gentle kestrel]

in your case you want 16gb of vram minimum

[hazy nexus]

normal 5070 normal 9070

[gentle kestrel]

4k is not going to play nice with 12gb today, nevermind later on

[limber shale]

btw

why are like 650w psus recommended for gpus like 6800

when my system draws like 300w under load (200w cpu gpu + 100w for idk)

i get this isnt full 100% load

[grizzled frost]

for the people that use intel CPUs that consume 200w+

[hazy nexus]

power spikes when turning the pc on

[tidal geyser]

Spikes

[grizzled frost]

transient spikes*

[tidal geyser]

I think it can almost spike to 2x the rated power

[limber shale]

isnt that mostly an invidia thing

with 3000 series

[grizzled frost]

every GPU gets transient spikes

[tidal geyser]

Hahhahaha

Nono the laws of physics does not just apply to Nvidia

[limber shale]

i meant the 2x

[grizzled frost]

(plus that 650w isn't all on the 12v rail usually)

[gentle kestrel]

gpu manufactures provide a recommendation that will ensure the card stays on even if you're running like 20 hard drives and fans

[limber shale]

i have a 750w gold psu that i spent a lot of money on (psus are taxed as industrial equipment here for some fucking reason) and now im kinda regretting

[gentle kestrel]

you can often get by with less if you know the power draw but you also want to actually be in the power supplies efficiency curve

750w isnt even that large of a unit

[limber shale]

it costs 100 eur here

it isnt even an a tier i think

[grizzled frost]

fairly average price for a 750w psu

[gentle kestrel]

so 100 euro including the like 20% tax? that seems about normal

[tidal geyser]

The 6800 was not as bad as its better counterparts tho

[hazy nexus]

arent they planing an 9080xt thats over 1000 dolars ?

[tidal geyser]

What????

[gentle kestrel]

tiktok tech news from mlid

[tidal geyser]

How many times do I need to say it to people, amd has publicly stated they will NOT make a high end this generation

[hazy nexus]

it has an relese date

[tidal geyser]

No it does not

Anyone who claims that you should report

[gentle kestrel]

yeah we should 100% trust this guy

[hazy nexus]

i mean its rumored to come out at the end of this year

[gentle kestrel]

the guy that made this rumor has like a 20% success rate if that

nobody that's actually reputable has covered this

[tidal geyser]

Who where why what

[gentle kestrel]

if a card was actually launching this year you'd have engineering samples leak out at least be mentioned in the driver

[tidal geyser]

They would also hav shot themselves in the foot

Said to anyone with a brain they were not gonna do a high end then suddenly do most people who are fully team amd or whatever already went Nvidia for some top end and such

[hazy nexus]

idk we would have to see

[tidal geyser]

No

It's not a thing

Amd is NOT coming out with a high end this gen

[frail topaz]

shes cooling off

[quaint jacinth]

How safe is the winget repo?

[tidal geyser]

Considering a guy maybe got malware or is just really dumb and did something well dumb I dono use it at your own risk

[empty widget]

guys any good alternatives for the gigabyte b650 eagle ax

[sand heron]

is 850w psu enough for a 5070ti and a 9800x3d

[empty widget]

The gpu yes, the CPU im not sure, just check the amount of power they take

[sand heron]

they take i think 150w max

145w actually

[high elm]

yeah

[tidal geyser]

750w even

[empty widget]

youre safe

[tidal geyser]

Anything else I guess

[empty widget]

@sand heron I just checked you can legit just go for a 750

[sand heron]

alright

thanks

i wanna get a white 5080 but the cheapest one i’ve seen is only $1300 which is absurd. when will the prices go down?

[high elm]

theyve already stabilised

[sand heron]

wdym

[high elm]

white parts are always more expensive than their black counterparts

lowk sounds wrong

[sand heron]

i know but that’s like $300-$500 over retail or smth like that

[tidal geyser]

Why not 5070 ti

[high elm]

msrp = $999 but thats for the founders edition only

other brands will charge a premium

[sand heron]

damn

[high elm]

then another premium over that for white parts

[sand heron]

yeah that’s what i got rn

got it for $999

[high elm]

then dont upgrade XD

5080 isnt worth it

[sand heron]

alright

is $999 a good price?

white asus btw

[tidal geyser]

Wait

So you have a 5070 ti but want to "upgrade" to a 5080

[sand heron]

Yea

[tidal geyser]

What

Just fkn get a 5090 Mr rich boy

[short light]

quick question, should I cool i9 14900kf with Dark rock pro 4 cooler or water cooling?

[tidal geyser]

No

[random junco]

what type of water cooling

[sand heron]

I mean i was just gonna return the 5070ti

i still got a week

[short light]

idk, I just have Dark rock pro 4

[sand heron]

i’ll just keep it

[tidal geyser]

I have never once returned any electronics I just do not understand it

[short light]

but I'm gonna switch from i5 8600k to i9 14900kf so that's y i'm asking

[tidal geyser]

So why the flip are you asking??????

O that makes more sense

[short light]

yep

[sand heron]

Bro get a amd cpu

[tidal geyser]

Wait What

[teal sinew]

yeah thatll be absolutely fine boss

[tidal geyser]

You are going from dead platform to dead platform

[teal sinew]

5070ti is ~300w and 9800x3d is ~150w

[sand heron]

thanks bro 🙏

[tidal geyser]

If you get a 14900k new for like 300 then fine

[short light]

I found a good deal for a i9 14900kf kit, 32gb ddr5 and ROG strix Z790 Gaming-h mobo

[tidal geyser]

But if this is some used deal then xd

[short light]

$600*

[tidal geyser]

Where

[sand heron]

Get a 7800x3d

[short light]

Austria

[tidal geyser]

What???

[short light]

yep

[tidal geyser]

No where as in store

[sand heron]

What’s austria

[tidal geyser]

Hit***

[short light]

I wanted to build a fresh i7 14th gen and then I saw that ad xD

[tidal geyser]

What

[short light]

Austria is in Eu xD

[tidal geyser]

I know it's a fkn country

But what store are you buying it from

[short light]

I'm talking to the guy that asked what is Austria lol

it's a marketplace

[tidal geyser]

It's a country and a marketplace

[sand heron]

ohh

[tidal geyser]

What

[short light]

bruh I foudn that AD on a marketplace

it's an webpage broo xD

[sand heron]

is amazon a bad place to buy parts from

[tidal geyser]

What is is the name of the store that sells it

[tidal geyser]

No

[sand heron]

alr

[tidal geyser]

There is no store without a name I know of

If you are referring to FBM then get out

[short light]

I've sent you a dm

nah it's not that xD

[tidal geyser]

THAT IS A USED MARKETPLACE

[tidal geyser]

It is but just Austrian

Am I the only one who reads the news

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/firefox-dev-says-intel-raptor-lake-crashes-are-increasing-with-rising-temperatures-in-record-european-heat-wave-mozilla-staffs-tracking-overwhelmed-by-intel-crash-reports-team-disables-the-function

Firefox devs did not have a fun time

[bitter crater]

cant you get a new ryzen 9700x/7800x3d with mobo and ram for less than $600? would beat the i7

[tidal geyser]

Mate it's used

It's not beating it

Amd will actually work

Literally look up and you see why

[plain cypress]

Tom's Hardware is hardly news these days

[tidal geyser]

https://www.kitguru.net/gaming/joao-silva/firefox-dev-claims-summer-heatwaves-led-to-increased-crash-reports-on-intel-raptor-lake-cpus/

[plain cypress]

Okay this i approve

[tidal geyser]

I swear LMG covered it

Must have been some other channel

[plain cypress]

They talked about it on wan this past Friday

But it's also been making the rounds

[tidal geyser]

I wanna immersion cool a HDD

[high elm]

rip read/write speeds

[tidal geyser]

What???

[tired bear]

You can if its helium filled

[high elm]

wouldnt the viscosity of the liquid slow down the drives rpm

[tidal geyser]

It's not rip it's no if it's not helium filled

[high elm]

ah

[tidal geyser]

I'm not gonna use air ya dummy also no it would not vene spin up

[tidal geyser]

I have been wanting to maybe try my hand at having a server in the same room as I sleep in as if I do not I need to keep a door open all the time

Aka what I have been doing

But probs not really worth it as I suspect the warranty will be insta nuked

I could always just go nvme tho but such a massive difference in storage amount

Only reason was thinking immersion is to quiet down the HDDs

[gray sierra]

ltt final boss

[strange atlas]

Is my hdd dying by any chance

[gentle kestrel]

small files transfer at small speeds

each copy has to start and stop

[strange atlas]

yes but thats right if it were moving small files also fastly?

it just stops goes 0 and waits and comes back

[gentle kestrel]

you’ll only get large amounts of transfer speed when the transfer is large enough for the drive to actually get up to speed

if you wanna check health use cystaldiskinfo

[spring raft]

does anyone know if okinos fans are quiet and have good airflow for the cheap price?

[latent pasture]

arctic shit

[latent ledge]

Just transferred my OS to a new SSD and I’m now getting this… weird thing is, it was working perfectly fine for a while, then I shut down the pc for a while and turned it pack on and I’m here
Does anyone know how to help?

[strange atlas]

Is this normal i just bought this ssd like 2-3 weeks ago i dont even use it much

i'm mostly using the harddisk

[tidal geyser]

Who could have known this would be a issue

[tidal geyser]

20TB of writes there mate?

2000hrs of use too

[strange atlas]

i mean 20 tb isnt much its using windows

[latent ledge]

Not me apparently ;-;

[gentle kestrel]

it is 20x the capacity of the drive

[tidal geyser]

Lies

[gentle kestrel]

assuming you bought this used?

[strange atlas]

i mean does it mean you shouldnt use the drives you get

[tidal geyser]

The SSD at a minimum has been on for like 80 days

[strange atlas]

i mean let me check the exact date i bought really quick

[tidal geyser]

At least 80 days ago

[tidal geyser]

I am saving this for the next time someone wants to transfer

And for you just install windows from usb and live with it

[strange atlas]

okay it apparently it was a lot more than that

[latent ledge]

Thankfully I backed up my important files before starting this 🫠

[tidal geyser]

Yay someone following the most basic tips

[strange atlas]

Anyways any idea to this

This feels stupid to be honest

Even games takes like 100 gigs lets say i redownloaded a game its 200 gigs gone

[formal sonnet]

KIOXIA covers the EXCERIA PLUS G3 line with a 5-year limited warranty and reports an MTTF (mean time to failure) of 1.5 million hours and an TBW of 600 and 1200 for the 1TB and 2TB variants respectively.
https://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/pc-hardware/storage/solid-state-drives/14701-kioxia-exceria-plus-g3-2tb-m-2-nvme-ssd-review

[strange atlas]

Oh does this mean they will refurbish or give the new one to me?

I'm okay with both

[formal sonnet]

What do you mean? Are you claiming warranty on the drive already, despite only buying it a few months ago?

[strange atlas]

No i'm but i was guessing when it gets to like %60 i can send back and make them repair if i got it correctly from this text

[tidal geyser]

You can try

But warranty is until it breaks

[strange atlas]

Oh it gotta break fully then?

[formal sonnet]

You can claim warranty if the drive becomes defective within the warranty period. 60% is not defective.

[strange atlas]

got it thank you

[formal sonnet]

That's how warranties work... Companies are not charities.

[tidal geyser]

But I think if it goes over 600TBW there is no warranty to claim

As that is what they claim it can do over that your out of luck

[strange atlas]

i mean so ssds are not for consumer stuff than 600 tb write isnt something you cant achieve

[tidal geyser]

What

[formal sonnet]

SSD's are absolutely for consumers? So are HDD's. So are SD cards. So are any other kind of storage. Really boils down to your specific use-case.

[tidal geyser]

600TBW is super easy to do even for consumers

[rose stream]

[strange atlas]

Not super easy but like its not possible if you are actually using it

[tidal geyser]

There is a reason the server space uses MLC well for something's

[tidal geyser]

What

[whole garden]

[tidal geyser]

You get to that by using it and your already 80 days in and gotten 20TBW

Also yes the number is meant to be high

The higher the better

https://tenor.com/view/cat-clapping-cat-silly-silly-cat-awkward-cat-gif-8634373961741432363

[strange atlas]

i'm confused agahagahaa

[tidal geyser]

No

[strange atlas]

not anymore

I will try to use the ssd even less

I dont want it to break in less then a year

I'm using hdd for so long never had problems only like 4-5 hdd had problems with hella bad sectors thats all

[tidal geyser]

Mate if it breaks in a year you can warranty it

[formal sonnet]

You won't. Unless you're writing to the drive constantly, you will not break it from normal consuemr use.

[tidal geyser]

And no you're not gonna do 600tbw

[formal sonnet]

I've had this drive as my main boot drive since Fall 2022. I am not in the least bit worried.

[strange atlas]

alright then

[tidal geyser]

Kirashi can we get a bot that just says yes or no

So many questions here can be answered by that

[formal sonnet]

"Yes or no"

[tidal geyser]

Well says either yes or no

[strange atlas]

I also only use it as main boot drive and only sometimes when i dont want to wait transfering assets i put it in ssd and use it in there

[tidal geyser]

I think I have gotten auto muted 3 times now by saying no too many times by accident when someone was worrying about temps and such

[strange atlas]

but then i'm okay with it

3 years good enough for me

and you still dont have any problem with it

[tidal geyser]

It's such a thing when people worry about temps

Unless the pc is literally turning itself off, 99% of the time the pc is doing fine

[strange atlas]

Mine has gpu overheating issue whatever i do it doesnt go away

maybe i scraped too much slicon i dont know

[tidal geyser]

No

[strange atlas]

i mean it does it also disables itself when it gets too hot

[tidal geyser]

Turns off the pc.

Also use pcm

[strange atlas]

what is pcm

[tidal geyser]

Phase change material

You know ptm 7950 and such

[strange atlas]

For me it generally crashes the driver and disables gpu i gotta constantly get it active by hand and sometimes it leaves me in black screen and cant do anything in pc

[strange atlas]

ooh yeah they were too expensive for me

I dont remember what did i scrape it with but i had to scrape the gpu die to get the thermal paste off

And i think i have used cologne to remove it 👨‍🦲

[tidal geyser]

No

You never scrape

[strange atlas]

i know but i had no chance

[void eagle]

i think my eyes dodged a bullet today

so, my dad was about to gift me a new phone, Pixel 9 since the battery on mine is beyond awful but thankfully i looked into it and 120hz PWM frequency is god awful so ill look into an S24/iPhone 15 Pro instead now

[tidal geyser]

Isopropanol alcohol

[void eagle]

flickering at that level is migraine city

[tidal geyser]

What

How long did you get to test it

[strange atlas]

I didnt want to buy that so i used most closes thing to alchocol it was cologne for me but its bad

[void eagle]

none, i didnt take the risk

i went based on spec sheet data

[tidal geyser]

Maybe try it out?

[void eagle]

if a display has below 240hz PWM i immediately dont care to even try it

im sensitive to flicker unfortunately

[strange atlas]

Did you try it at 60 did it change?

[void eagle]

oh i will bc my family are getting the upgrade too

[void eagle]

PWM, not refresh rate

[strange atlas]

oh

[void eagle]

if you dont know what it is you re lucky

PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) eyestrain is discomfort or fatigue caused by the way screens adjust brightness using rapid on/off cycles of the backlight. This flickering, while often imperceptible to the human eye, can be registered by the eyes and potentially lead to headaches, migraines, and general eye strain, particularly when screens are dimmed

if its too low it can cause migraines in certain people

[strange atlas]

first time hearing but i use too old phones maybe thats why

[void eagle]

its the reason i hate OLEDs and want them to be killed off and replaced with MiniLED

[strange atlas]

oh oled

[void eagle]

makes buying phones a fucking nightmare

[strange atlas]

I havent seen an oled phone in my life :d

[void eagle]

although samsung and apple have mostly figured it out

google is still stuck in 2018 it seems

im not the only one affected, this guy is too

[tidal geyser]

2 people yay

[strange atlas]

in the future i will probably get like realme 11 but still too expensive for me

[void eagle]

https://www.androidcentral.com/phones/google-pixel-9-pro-review

The ultra-low 240Hz PWM rate used to "dim" the phone's display gives me terrible headaches, especially when I try to use the phone in the evening. This problem started about 2 years ago for me and has only gotten worse as displays have gotten ultra-bright.

The 3000-nit display on these phones is insanely bright, and flickering on and off at a low rate of 240Hz is nothing short of abysmal. Google is the only smartphone company that hasn't upgraded its rate — Samsung and Apple now use 480Hz on most devices — and companies like Honor and OnePlus push that rate to 2160Hz, 4320Hz, and beyond.

[strange atlas]

i wish high end phones were cheaper in turkey

[void eagle]

it says 240, thats for the pro model. the base is an un-acceptable 120 HZ flicker rate in 2024

[strange atlas]

We have like %60 tax on phones and they get taxxed in borders so it even comes expensiver

[tidal geyser]

Took me like 30 sec to find

But ofc this is more so if you already had it

[grizzled frost]

"expensiver" is quite the word

[strange atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-coma-wriogifs-gif-4586647766923608943

[grizzled frost]

("more expensive" is grammatically correct)

[tidal geyser]

Muh phone got a nice 720hz

[grizzled frost]

muh phone only 60hz

[strange atlas]

got it thank you

in phones is it like pc monitors is it the same tech

[tidal geyser]

Pwm

Refresh rate is 144

[void eagle]

like google, what the fuck is this:

[strange atlas]

I have IPS LCD on my phone if i get OLED phone would it make drastical change like pc monitors

[void eagle]

compare this to the iphone 15 pro

[tidal geyser]

Sad image

[void eagle]

and the S24

wtf is google smoking

[grizzled frost]

an IPS LCD panel is an IPS LCD panel regardless of what device it's in, same goes for OLED

[void eagle]

this should look as much as like a sine wave as possible to reduce eye fatigue

[grizzled frost]

ish

there's some small nuances, but basically identical

[void eagle]

this is appalingly bad

[strange atlas]

gotcha i wasnt sure if cause it was saying LCD i still dont know what it is

[neat rivet]

should i get the H9 flow its on sale for $99

[void eagle]

isnt that the case w awful airflow

[strange atlas]

though going for lcd televisions were a big thing

[tidal geyser]

Up to you

[tidal geyser]

Well that is any fishtank but no it's usable

[void eagle]

anyway i tried an iphone 15 pro in store i think and had no issues s

gonna go try an S24/S24 Ultra later the week but it may be a choice between these two lol

[strange atlas]

Damn you are going for high tier

[void eagle]

i wouldnt upgrade my phone if it wasnt a POS pixel 7 that barely lasts 4 hours

[void eagle]

i mean i like it to last

[strange atlas]

i get you

my phone charge goes for like an hour and half

But its done for the use

it gotta be changed

[vestal folio]

anyone think it would be hard to start your own computer business?

[void eagle]

i upgrade phones usually every 4-5 years, this is an EXCEPTION because this POS dies and overheats so quickly

[strange atlas]

starting wouldnt be the problem i belive finding costumers are the big thing

[vestal folio]

I took the footsteps that someone else did on one of the LTT videos with the dude that just likes building computers I just wanna be able to build more lol

[void eagle]

i got this phone in late 2022, so im upgrading 2 years after owning it

which is abnormal for me

[vestal folio]

yeah, I've only had a few people interested since I started advertising on marketplace a few weeks ago

[strange atlas]

oh i was expecting something different you can probably get costumers in that job

Even a part timer like me gets 3-4 pc builds a month

[vestal folio]

nice!

I know it wouldn't really be a full- time job im only charging transportation costs if they don't want to pickup.

but its fun as hell

[strange atlas]

its not fun for me i dont get paid enough and if anything goes wrong i gotta wait for it

[vestal folio]

oof

[strange atlas]

Per pc depends on the pc but i get like around 400-1400 turkish liras per build

[vestal folio]

I understand on the waiting part, someone I got earlier today im putting their computer together for isnt getting the parts until next week

[vestal folio]

interesting

[strange atlas]

9.90 dollar to 34.99 dollar

[strange atlas]

the problem i have is getting the shipment of products than getting an broken or open boxes to me then i gotta refund it myself

The buyer doesnt care

[vestal folio]

bruh'

[strange atlas]

by open box i mean refunded product

They like to do that here

[vestal folio]

they sent you an open box refund in place of a new one??

[strange atlas]

Yes

[vestal folio]

that is very annoying

[strange atlas]

A few weeks ago they did that with broken gpu that it was broking when it was getting under stress

it didnt have plastics too and they put orange rubber bands around it

[strange atlas]

9070xt*

[vestal folio]

I havent bought any new parts online myself yet, I've only done 2 builds from an HP oem and the third is a custom on 7th gen intel, and the next client I have is upgrading from a 5000 series oem HP to a custom rig

[vestal folio]

for how much those cards cost there should be no reason for that to happen

[strange atlas]

It was around 39.000 turkish liras and i bought it off of amazon

[vestal folio]

how much is that in usd

[strange atlas]

i thinkj it was sapphire pure or pulse the white one