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if it's glass then no
I'm just wondering how severe are the cons. And yes the side is glass
if it's mesh, then maybe for aesthetics
but your gpu will blow some hot air at your motherboard directly
Only the front is mesh
then no
k thanks
That's all i needed lol
explode
Do people unironically like this shit
oh dog
yes
The Verge would love that
where are my perforations
asus has built a nice hot oven
no way
And some people dead ass want this case
i would sell it immediately
I was trying to help a guy out in the rog server about his questionable choices and bro was dead set on getting this specific case
Btw in the future, whenever i end up upgrading my system in like 2026 or 2027 with a new motherboard and stuff.
Is the upgrade seemless and windows will boot right away or is there some bios fiddling required since i have 1 boot drive and 2 regular pure storage SSD's in my system?
Like if i place the boot drive in the same slot on the new motherboard, would it just work?
I've never upgraded before so idk how it is
people liked the easybake oven, aka nzxt h510
peak has no issues
you definitely like something fugly
😢
this the current one which keeps bluescreening smh
it's generally a good idea to reinstall windows whenever you swap entire systems
how do you know its the ram
nice
Tried different ram, had no bluescreens at all
reason? Since i've never re-installed windows unless i had a fatal flaw
windows can sometimes figure stuff out on its own, but you're still left with drivers from your previous system
which can conflict with new drivers you install on your new system
@tidal geyser this is a 7200mts xmp intel kit, but i've tried multiple different settings for it to be compatible with amd 9800x3d, including the one in buildzoid video
How do i keep my old data tho? Do i need a backup drive or what? @trim gyro
I know i was here yesterday and we had a convo, but i wanna ask do u have any other RGB ram recommendations? preferbly 6000mts cl28/cl30 32gb
or is there something i can look at? i've been googling too tbh
yeah, you'll have to move your stuff out of the drive that has windows on it, before you reinstall windows
it's the reason people keep their files separate from their boot drive that has the operating system
So a clean wipe of the drive essentially?
yes
also this has to be some error from the shop lmao, cl28 on 8000mts?
Most of my games are on the D Drive to be fair.
And it's mainly work documents and stuff like that that sits on the C drive
Wowzers
100% error
you can get 10,000MHz CL16 on Temu probably
no
you can get ram that high but depending on the cpu their may be extra tuning for it to be stable
i see
At what temperature does the plastic gpu power connector housing melt
on amd there's no guarantee anything over 6400 will be running stable
like gpu temperature? no
guys a basilisk v3 for £20 is it worth it
even 6400 may not work on every cpu
I heard Intel has a new "200S Boost" mode in their new bios now for their slower newest gen chips? Is it any good for anyone that's on that platform?
Get yoself a dedicated boot ssd
There has to be a limit until the plastic starts melting
on intel, it's no guarantees that anything over 7200 will work stablely
seems pretty decent for the price
true dude, but better chances with 8000 series apu's, and 9000 sereis desktop
nope, not when you can pick up a g502 hero for that on ebay
Why have i heard that DDR5 is more stable on intel? Or is it just because Ryzen 7000 was unstable at anything higher than 6000 and Ryzen 9000 is completely fine?
i don’t like the g502
I have the G502X
and a basilisk is a crappier clone of the g502
i had one before and it just feels bad for how i hold my mice
Many people don’t like g502
Lightspeed
like 220C
I like it. But that's a subjective opinion. Like all things
g400 gang
those looking for light mice are the ones that have issues because weak wrists
apus clock memory like crazy, i would say 9000 has maybe a little higher chance of 6400 working than 7000 but i tested six 9950x3d's and only two worked at 6400 1:1
I've tried the G Pro Superlight 2
Nuh uh
uh no
My cousin has it and tbh i ain't a fan. It feels cheap
30 grams is too light for a mouse
that isn’t a good point
I remember when weights in mice was sick
yup, i actually added more weights to my g502 because it was still to light for me
The G502 in comparison feels like it was built to last whereas the G Pro Superlight feels too fragile and too easy to move
Bro turned a gaming session into a workout
it doesn’t matter how strong you are a lighter mouse is easier to stop
You prolly have good finger skills then
For me i'm fine with 100 grams
actual bullshit there
I have never used a mouse over 60 grams
I used to be on a 130 gram mouse but now it's 100 and it's almost too light for me
scientific is funny
my previous mouse was 131g
So because of that i play most PC games on controller
my current mouse is 121
151g if you added in the cable weight
The term scientific gets used too much on stupid shit that isn’t science
ok but lighter mice being better has literally been tested and proven
Been playing Horizon Forbidden West Complete Edition on PC lately. With controller cause i don't really like how the game feels with mouse and keyboard
But lighter mice is def better fr
Driving games on mouse and keyboard are also abysmal for me
Couldn't play rocket league on my laptop for a week cause i forgot my controller
🥵 the eyebrows are eyes and the eyes are noses
if i had bought a light mouse, i'd have to buy 2 or 3
what about the feet
why
nah. Just interested in random subjects
i'd have lauched them into walls forgetting how light they are
And connect them together for max Efficiency?
they would in fact survive that
That’s actually…kinda genius
i once threw an attack shark x3 at my wall and it worked perfectly fine after
the weight my g502 hero has, it has a physical response for feedback in my hand
Can’t be throwing shit these days, stuff too expensive
Also by tech enthusiast standarts, i have a pretty meh keyboard but doesn't matter cause i personally love it.
The Logitech G915 Lightspeed
what keyboard?
awww fedex is late with delivering a new mbp 😦
true rage smashing stuff has gotten so difficult nowadays
time to get the shotgun ready dude
i have a box of cheap membrane keyboards i just occasionally snap in half
name?
The farthest I’d go is throw mouse on bed (gently)
Logitech G915 Lightspeed
It's low profile and i love it
If spamming in chat isn’t viable
nope, i would be needing new framework for the mice, if i could find a metal top cover for the g502 right now, i'd buy it
just custom cnc it
Also have an "underwhelming" mic according to tech enthusiasts but again. It sounds fine to me.
The Logitech Blue Yeti X that i got for a discount
i wish someone made a mouse out of pbt i’d 100% use a pbt shell on a mouse
i don’t even have a mic your doing better then me
There are magnesium mice
Do you have any consoles?
no
k then you dont have a mic
the worst ive done is launched a laptop across a room with a single punch, and a old case as well
i lie i have a ps5 for gt7
Then you have a mic
i need to find that i kinda want to try gt7
wdym
Plug in your dualsense and windows picks it up as a mic lol
effort
Out of rage or purely for the sake of launching a laptop across the room
I used the dualsense as my pc mic for a while
definitely rage
not once have i ever needed to speak to someone on my pc
So you're not into voice chatting on discord?
I used to until i got annoyed at the constant issues with steam games not syncjing with it
So I switched to Xbox controller
Anger management perhaps?
no
But tbh i prefer the symetrical sticks
This is the way
well it does xbox controllers natively, you have to enable the extra for playstation controllers
Everyone's different
i prefer ps layout for controllers
Big picture plus xbox controller slaps
I don't much like the Switch Pro controller stick placement
that's called an axe and several logs
But for others it could be a positive
the only cheap hall effect controllers are xbox layout some reason
Joycons are the best layout
no
Play station joystick layout feels like they were just shoved on there
wiiu/steamdeck is
But that’s just my opinion
8bitdo ultimate 2 c are cheap HE controllers
Since there is talk about the PlayStation 6 already for some unknown reason online, i hope the PS6 has hall effect sticks
Tho my dualsense after 5 years still has no drift issues
literally £40
i prefer the 1 joystick layout
I've had the PS5 since day one so that's also how long i've had the controller for
Ain’t no way they selling he as the default
cheap decent controller
I unironically find joycons to be the most comfortable controller layout
I'm prob one of those rare peeps that enjoys the new joycon grips more than on the original switch
8 buttons on the right side where the right stick used to be and 1 left stick with dpad underneath
for racing games this is ideal layout
I just wanted a bigger default controller and i got it lol
xbox layout though
which nintendo copies also
sadly
they need to go back to the wiiu layout
2 sticks on top button clusters on bottom
Found a hall effect PlayStation stick layout controller for $60 here in Norway
reverse ds controller
ps2 was the best controller layout playstation had, was super comfortable
PS2 was solid yeah
I like the joycon with the swapped joystick locations
Dualshock 2
ps2 also had pressure sensitive buttons all around
i’d honestly buy a ps2 with a usb port
The only thing i didn't like about the Wii U gamepad is the analog sticks being above the dpad lol
or even just a ps2 console with usb ports and a hdmi port
8bitdo has that as an option
that is ideal layout
we need an actual controller with this layout
Linus Tech Tips makes screwdrivers. He should make a controller
anyone else suddenly having issues the last couple days when using NordVPN on incognito? im getting this error on youtube unless i turn my VPN off
i don't use a VPN so idk
i pay for VPN twice a year to watch content only available abroad
https://shop.8bitdo.com/products/8bitdo-pro-2-bluetooth-controller this is choice one
Other than that, i'm VPN free
Has anyone bought an epomaker keyboard before? This is by far the worst keyboard I've had in terms of reliability. Multiple switches have failed and I'm returning it for a replacement
how expensive is that thing?
It was $100, pretty good value for what I get. All metal build, good switch feel, good sound, good stabilizers
And it has 3 way connectivity
this you can use in the original playstation controller or, ps2 dual shock 2 controller tbh
Sounds pretty good. But at the same time. Almost too good to be true. So it failed reliability...
Yeah unfortunately. It comes with 2 replacement switches, but now a 3rd switch is failing
should make your own keyboard, you get what you want then
Maybe it's a PCB problem? Idk
The thing with custom keyboards is that they get expensive, unlike custom built computers
My cousin also recently bought one of those DIY keyboards. I think it was a Wooting keyboard?
I personally hate Linear switches so i didn't like it. But main thing is that he likes it
custom pc's can get expensive, remember 3090/4090/5090 costs
then there's those that do custom loops
custom loops are overkill
Cheaper end 5090 here is $2700
what are those ppl running? ai servers? lol
MSI Ventus for reference
they used to be for cooling, it's more aesthetics nowadays
you could build 3 1080p/1440p rigs for that price tbh
I have a 240mm AIO for aesthetics atm because i don't trust myself with a custom loop
i have a 1440p rig right now actually.
RTX 4070
i5-13600k
32GB DDR5 6000MHz CL32
All drives are Gen 4 aswell
so it runs at something settings and something resolution
technically it could do 1080p,1440p or 4k
Tbh faster than what i had in 2020
sapphire rx590 at that
I used to game on an NVIDIA GeForce MX250 Laptop GPU
That's about the same as a GT1030
2GB VRAM
my current setup is in my profile
Nowadays my PC is the main gaming thing at high settings whereas my laptop is completely usable for travel with an RTX 3050ti Mobile
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/9tV6ZZ my og build
Part List - AMD Ryzen 3 2200G
which then became this https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/VQ3HF8
then became this https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FxfdKX
which then became what i have now
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 3600, Radeon RX 560 - 896, SHARKOON VG4-W ATX Mid Tower
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 3600, Radeon RX 580, Cougar Panzer Max ATX Full Tower
no chance of me changing my current case unless i could find a cougar gemini X case
Hey everyone,
I’m planning a build with the NZXT H9 Flow, and I’m aiming to have a total of 10 fans (120mm) in the case. But I’m getting confused about how many forward and reverse fans I actually need.
Someone told me I’d need 6 reverse fans and 4 forward fans, but I’m not sure if that’s accurate — especially if I plan to install an AIO. I’ve heard the fan layout changes when an AIO is involved, but I don’t quite understand how.
I’d really appreciate it if someone could break it down for me: • How many reverse vs forward fans do I need for a typical 10-fan setup in the H9 Flow? • Are there ideal placements for each type of fan?
Thanks in advance! The fan direction stuff is really throwing me off 😅
4 normal for rear and top, 6 reverse flow for side and bottom
Tysm!!
also, if you're going for the h9 flow, you might as well just be going for an o11d evo, the h9 flow is just a more expensive clone of it
is it worth it?
I live in Germany and there it’s more expensive
no
why not?
you could get an rx580 instead for that and have a ton more performance over a gtx580
but its 2010
wake up
2025
hey anyone here ineed quick help with something
seems like my laptopshdmi port is limited to 120 hz at 1080p do i still buy the monitor i was planning to buy or do i just stick to a cheaper 100 hz monitor
i was planning on buying the msi g244f e2 and was hoping to get atleast 144
Should I worry about these stains?
No
After I clean it stays there but I guess won’t effect something
what stains?
Lovely
Is there any way to convert cpi to dpi
previous owner got freaky with the cpu
how come the 82K resistor doesnt lead to a COMPLETE voltage drop?
275V in an 82K resistor at 5.35mA should take it extremely low
Mf think we are electrical engineers
what ssd yall reccomend for 4tbs m.2?
grr they taught me this in school but i forgot uh try searching it up idk
V=IR yeah
R=(Vsupply-Vtarget)/I
however 82K gives a voltage drop of 420V
which leads to -145V :P
the cheapest one
are these artifacts
it doesn't look like it's intended
dont know what to d0o
do i stick with a 100 hz monitor? do i buy the one i was intending to buy or do i buy a portable monitor cz i travel alot
1440p oled or 4k oled for rx 9070 xt nitro+ ?
cos its not
im playing games like call of duty, expedition 33, black myth wukong, league of legends, world of warcraft, elden ring & diablo 4

depends on how close you are to your monitor, no?
if anyone can help pls ping
unless you're thinking about that 27" 4K oled monitor
wdym, im talking performance wise
will the gpu be able to handle 4k with those games?
sure
while still cranking stuff to max & with a good fps?
its a new pc, so im not really aware of my limits unlike my old pc
you have a wide range of games there, I suggest looking at 9070 XT benchmarks with those games
stuff like league and wow can run on 10 year old GPUs just fine
hahaha, ik
but im more concerned about games like black myth & call of duty
and new games generally, as most of them arent optimized at all
some games offer ultra settings, those are often much more demanding than high
There's not much difference between wqhd and uhd, but it has a big impact on performance

@trim gyro talking to you kinda helped me decide
ill go for 4k 🙂
do you guys have any suggestions for a screen?
rn ive got my eyes on aw3225qf
the cheapest high refresh rate option

though a curved monitor is personal preference
Guys does an atx case always have enough standoff holes for atx motherboards
hi so im trying to enable core isolation but it says all these drivers are incompatible and stopping me from turning it on. how can i update or delete them?
my gpu is running at 80°c am i cooked?
Could be worse
thats fine, but if it goes higher then change the settings
What gpu is it
4060 ti
You can cook with your gpu
gigabyte oc
Make some scrambled eggs
and the fans are running at like 60%
at 77c
and im not uning any app to change the fan curve
80c is on the hotter side but I don’t think it’s hot enough to cause issues
if i make a fan curve in msi afterburner and close msi after burner will it still work?
80c is normal for laptops
🔥
No
Made my GPU not sag and it bent the backplate oml
make your curves, I think you can have it open in the system tray, then click the button to have it start with Windows
thats likely a little too tight
nah its pretty lose
idc that much it made it not sag anymore
its moved the backplate bend from being at the PCB to off the PCB too so
Repair
It's fine
The PCB ends at the power connectors and the bend is at the very end of the heatsink
Guys i have some money for my setup but i want a 4070 super and my cpu is 7600 with integrated so what if i used that for a bit and then after a week i bought the gou
if its for a week then thats fine i guess
but for long term...you're gonna suffer
Will i really tho rn i have i3-7100U
Anything would be an upgrade from this shitty laptop cpu
well the 4070 super is better than pure gaming off the the 7600 integrated graphics
like i said if its for a week then sure go for it
Okay this is a lot less visible of a zip tie right?
Oh my goodness the internet is so slow I cannot see the image 
red devil
do a in place windows upgrade itll probably fix it
nvm
restart it
it was just on my second monitro
😭
goat
ive never seen a monitor that stays connected when powered off lol
Is a Noctua U9 enough for an Ultra 7?
It’s for my comically overbuilt Nas/Jellyfin server. The one on sale right now doesn’t come with a stock cooler
yeah im telling you the stock cooler as a reference
peerless assassin 90 or royal knight 120 would work
I’m thinking I was just gonna get a u9 in a second 92mil
The U9 is the tallest cooler that will fit in this case
Pretty much limited to 92 mm fan tower coolers or the ones where the fan is on the very top
pa90
110mm height vs u9 128mm height
r u outside the USA lol???
No
Back ordered
ohhh
if i ordered from serbia it would take 2 months with prime
Damn, it’s a dual tower as well. It probably cools better than the U9. Still gonna buy three Noctua 92mm fans tho.
Hell no
yeah cus AMD's WWTD is in Ohio USA
and yes I have prime
It’s still cheaper than the U9 with three extra fans
Signed up for a free month trial just for prime week
Its gotta go from Hong Kong to Ohio USA to France, to Germany, to Serbia
shipping isnt A-B
how good is ryzen 7 5700x
yeah
Oh wait did you think I meant it wouldn’t take 2 months
ohhh yeah I did 😭
I could never wait that long
i changed my intake fan curve and now its running at 65c instead of 80c
At that point just order from ur countries’ most popular tech site
the reason AMD is really unpopular in slavic countries is AMD hardware going to just about anywhere has to go through brookville ohio at some point
why’s that
ace logistics (AMD's WWTD) is located there they closed down the UK and California site
i live in a slavic country and everyone here has amd
they're opening a new one in montreal thou
bruh
Where
poland
kurwa
Intel dosen't use a WWTD it just has authorized dealers
I’d think that would be more efficient no?
hit or miss, cuts them out of some countries offically but its faster since the stock is more spread out
like one of the MANY reasons Germany is called the "capitol of european shipping" is because a bunch of companies (intel included) only have authorized dealers there
there can be sellers anywhere ofc but they usually are buying from germany or the USA
my uncle got a 1tb ssd gen 4 i think sent to his work when he didn’t order it and they wouldn’t take it back off him and now he wants me to sell it for him how much should i list it for
I'm trying to get out of shipping logistics because its such a mess
apparently he got a box with loads of them but i’ve only seen a pic of 1 that he showed me so i could tell what it was
the contract my company got with AMD was SOOO fucking stupid
did intel ever get that plant in ohio built
80% retail price
yup!
what’re they? 50? so i should list for 40
my company handles shipping from it actually
gbp
they basically just told most of their ca employees to piss off
Idk
linus saw it coming
he also got 4800 whatever the unit is ddr5 which is rlly random
its because ohio has a skilled labor shortage
most of canada has a skilled worker shortage
Fun fact the f16 has AC and heat
i thought it was because they got huge tax breaks to build there then pat basically screwed up everthing else and got canned
I've got like 20 employees that REALLY shouldn't be working in logistics they should be working in IT but nobody will hire them in IT because the positions are all filled
thats at the canadian facility
ohio is just a really good place to set up a chip fab lol
Easier than managing their san jose superfund fab
only in ohio
work shortage, lowish tax rates, vast power avaliability, lower cost of labor then similar areas

you can pay someone less in ohio than you can in arizona and get better PR then you'd get for paying them 75% more in AZ
Like ohio is lowest 40% of national wages in chip fabrication workers and they're still 80% above the livable wage in the state

livable wage is like $26/h and they're being paid $48-$52/h
its INSANELY GOOD PR to setup in ohio over AZ
not sure, I've only been there once to shake hands
that was the best thing about tech companies was the cheap food
$52/h sounds like a dream
they gave me a pass to park in one of the semi bays while I was there because my truck wont fit in the parking lots
Most employees were contractors
:D
get a skilled labor job in OH or Mass
Thank you grovestreet1
enjoy them, i have the ryzen as well, 9950x and it rocks everywhere. gaming, vm's and stuff

Most of the employees were cool and treated the contractors decent
I’m getting a 5
9600x
you will ran out of ram faster than you will make it unresponsive
don't forget about pbo when it arrives
?????
pbo = precision boost overdrive
r/ELI5 please
I have a 12900KF and a 2 servers on my floor
It was wild seeing 10 year old test gpus get tossed on the reg
one has a 7970X and 3 4090s
the other has dual E5 2690 V2s and 3 HBAs
all my stuff has Thermaltake PSUs
750e 80+ gold to play it safe
never had one fail. even a Smart 600W
Funny story about that
actually no I have a Apevia 500W Spirit in my VPS
mrroooow
im a fox
Where da foam at
It was return fraud
Got sent someone else’s fraud package
😢
miau
how is that even possible tho? I bought from thermaltake directly
Its gf1 2024 likely so rmx is big upgrade
GF1 2023 is the one without 12VHP right?
there is no 2023
is there any way to tell which you have?
Product Code
grahhh I gotta take my psu out to do that

And pin layout
pin layout?
OG
one
Chat I’m the next stop
oh I have the 2024
Yes
I've had very good luck with "bad" thermaltake PSUs
I have a smart 600W running fine in a 24/7 powered syste,
can someone help, why are some 24 pin diagrams different? i just wanna make sure i get the green power on and ground right to jump an all black cable psu
A federal judge just threw out the FTC one click cancel rule
Can't have anything nice in this country can we
Its fine till it isnt stressed or power outs arent happening
Should I be worried?
Some smart psus are okay-ish
smart psu?
Oh, I was thinking something else

mb
But jokes aside, should I get a better cooler?
What cpu what cooler
Intel Core i9 10900K with a Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 360
I could go for a cooler of beer rn
Yeah, My chip is spicy
Oh liquid freezer 2 had problems on Intel due the frame was bad
Especially on 13900k
ITS HERE YIPPEE
wait, so I'm not thinking that up that the cooler used to be cooling more watts?
what are you doing with that rig hacking the fed?
Well are u running a stress test or in game? Could try re-pasting and re-mounting and setting up a pump speed and fan speed on the cooler
If its A stress test then the temp is good
Considering it its nearly using 300w
It uses nearly 300W (just like 9W shy of 300W)
aka 290W to 291W
Are you purposefully running your parts on full blast to cook eggs?
9800X3D or 9950X3D
9950
Open task manager, and kill whatever is strangling your cpu
Holy shit this guy got bank
Parents got it for me
I got 7950X 💁♂️🥲
Grad gift
Just trying to get the most out of it for that (the first two left clients are CPU)
and why?
Because it essentially is just a Blender load
What cpu are you running fucking hell 😂
Intel Core i9 10900K with the Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 360
Class
What’s the program called, I wanna see how far I can push my 7950X
The CPU runs at 5.1GHz All Core with Vcore being like 1.41V to 1.42V
That is SheepIt, That is a Community driven renderfarm.
Drop click render and go?
You need to make an account there...
Ah I believe it’s a payment so
Nope
There is something called points and to get the points, I need to run the Clients
Oh, what can you do with them?
If money is onvolved, it is for support of sheepit
You can then use them to render Blender projects
Aka donation
And do you get paid for contributing or how does it work
It’s just you getting free projects?
Sorry 3D modelling isn’t my strong suite
Okay, that is for example my account, I ran the client and have that many points. Now if I wanted to render something I made in Blender, I use those points in the green box:
So essentially, if you need something rendered quickly you throw it to SheepIT?
No overclocking done?
Yeah
I assume that this speed is overclocked
No use to me so, but sounds very cool
Did you overclock it though
Yeah, it is something cool
Intel has high frequency already
So i assume no
Well, I set 51 for the multiplier in the BIOS
I mean all core btw
Not like the usual boost
🔥 beast has arrived. Now to retire my M3 Pro.... or at least reserve it for light duty. @empty quartz
CONGRATSSSSSS
Q: What justifies that device?
now... to install tahoe beta so I can run the migration assistance
I run heavy workloads.
Ty
A normal PC can also do that?
Jesus Christ what will you do with this amount of horsepower
A normal PC is a pain in the ass and I work/dev on macos and leverage NVIDIA AI Workbench for remote servers
If you saw all of marks pc parts you'd poop
What... won't I do 🙂
No?
it is not a pain in the ass?
Send a spaceship to Mars for Elon 🤪
Carrying around my 5090 build ain't easy exactly lol
Yes, it is unrealiable due to cobbled together harware vs complete vertical integration
Cool, At least a PC doesn't need a heart and a leg
Ah yes, make the obvious obvious to glaze 5090 ownership, go you 💁♂️
If you know what I mean
I've never once been in europe and had to throw my laptop off a bridge because Windows decided to shit its pants and Linux decided to get weird on me.
Mac's are needlessly overpriced
Thank you thank you i wasn't initially for an applause but ill take it
Linux is not a Desktop OS, it is for sevrers. And Windows, That shouldn't have issues
I'm getting old ngl moving my tower anywhere is like uhgg
People that complain about OS’ are just plain stupid at it. Use an OS you’re capable of using properly. For you dear sir, MacOS 🤷♂️
Yes, I stand by on that statement, [REDACTED] Apple with their [REDACTED] Overpriced products
Linux is just as great for desktop as it is server. I run Linux desktop/workstations but I don't rely on it for laptops 🙂
Windows takes a shit randomly because it has worms in its brains (not @south arrow )
What are you smoking
I was about to ask…
Linux is used for everything
Okay, If you would given me the choice of MacOS or Linux, I would rather use Linux
Yup, Servers
Everything
Only liquid with no nicotine sadly
that doesn't look Linuxy?
Like I said, I'd rather pay a premium for stability vs a premium for a chance of the machine taking a shit 🙂
If I’m not mistaken I’d say most companies now try to make the switch to a stable Linux rather than use anything else.
Oh, So you wanna have the price of a Goddamn car?
BUT that's me. My job requires access to a working machine at all times - no excuses for what I do
If you did ur homework, windows has linux built in
Which windows is perfectly fine doing
If you knew what I paid for my car you would cry
Almost nothing
If that’s what you truly need, with what you enjoy and it’s what you’re willing to spend such bank on, it’s your moneys 💁♂️
Mark gets 5090s for free
Dudes just rage baiting hard lmao
For perspective
It is called WSL, But if I use that, it is for something that is for unix
Go on tell us 😂
😄 This is how I roll and how I make my money
Dude, I just [REDACTED] hate what apple pulls
Bro I was just trying to show how it was magnetic 😭😭😭
You can say fuck
you can just say the word
Didn’t mean to almost drop it
Like You can't tell me that a fucking mac is gonna be a used car
Apple as a dev for their OS and Mac’s in general are I’d say of highest standard on the globe. There is a reason why every politician of high importance uses their devices.
Uh, its not made for a car?
Ur spouting nonsense
I'll get the invoice 😛
But the Price, don't you see the price? I can get better hardware for that price
@lime mantle slow down, think before you speak and then speak slowly.
Best of luck…
Pff, Highest standard my ass. More like Highest Price
actually it’s type
?
🎉 @sour remnant
this is a joke by the way plz don’t hurt me
I'm taking my hate of apple to my grave
Tell me you’ve never used Mac without telling me you’ve never used Mac
Wow thats a pretty penny spent there lmao
Dude, I had to help on a goddamn mac
they make no goddamn sense
Just keep it to yourself, no one cares
In EU that’s about 95K EUR, about standard what people buy.
Man, I just can't when someone is burning their money on shit that is behind on other stuff
I thought you’d jump out with a 500K+ invoice 😂
Not as bad as they used to be but getting to be quite a giant in the laptop/phone space. Keep an eye on their products maybe itll catch your eye one day
Who cares, its not ur money
But it is still wasted money ಥ_ಥ
M4 is savage. It... runs like an ape kicked in the balls
Again, we dont care
If other stuff you’re regarding towards piracy or servers, then that’s the only valid excuse. Everything else Mac is on par easily.
same with the other goodies Apple has produced on the M series SOC
oh fack no. I live where it snows and get shitty. I have some restraint lol
How’s the Rivian treating u?
plus I don't want to get trail pinstripes on a Lambo SUV 😛
Competition over these next few years will be curious to see how these factories transition or if they can transition. Future should be bright
Adapt ur new vehicle to tank tracks
I don't do Piracy (anymore since 2019)
And no, I'm pretty sure that my PC is getting a better score on my PC compared to your laptop
It treats me well, I hope to see R2 in the EU
I highly doubt your 10900K would go anywhere near a M4 base never mind Max but have a go 😂
Pff, as if your toy is gonna get a higher score on CPU-Z
R2 is going to (hopefully) explode in popularity.
Game's on. If your device has a higher score, I'll shut up, If my device is Higher, you know what your laptop is
Dude, just shut up
I was talking to Mark
Literally acting like a child
Tell me you’re unemployed with no idea what pcs are used for without telling me you’re unemployed with no idea what pcs are used
I can't get a higher CPUZ score because there's no CPUZ for MacOS
I'm not unemployed
Want to peen measure on Geekbench?
I can download that too
Maybe you are employed but definitely not in a sector where actual horsepower is needed 24/7
wips out the bench ruler
This is so stupid
Let's go boys lmao
Go benchmark let’s see who dusts who 😂
How do I get the cardboard out 😭😭😭😭
hmm? ```
Motherboard: ─ ASUS TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS (WI-FI) (Nuvoton NCT6798D)
PSU: ─ Be Quiet Straight Power 11 Power Supply, Black 1000W 80 Plus Gold
CPU: ─ Intel Core i9 10900K @3.7GHz Base Frequency
CPU Cooler: ─ Liquid Freezer 2 360
RAM: ┬1. 8GB DDR4 @3300MT/s
├2. 16GB DDR4 @3300MT/s
├3. 8GB DDR4 @3300MT/s
└4. 16GB DDR4 @3300MT/s
GPU: ┬1. Intel UHD Graphics 630
├2. Asus Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 TI TUF Gaming
└3. NVIDIA Quadro M2000
System drive: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2 (S4EWNM0NC25426B)
Internal HDD/SSD: ─ Western Digital 1TB SATA 3.5 HDD
External Storage: WD Elements 25A2 USB Device 2TB
case: ─ be Quiet! Dark Base 700
OS: Windows 10 22H2
I can benchmark my gaming PC if you want
Mixed ram?
and enable MGPU benchmarks
And this tells me what exactly?
Yes
As a non apple user i would save it for science
watch my dual 5090s absolutely shit all over everything
That it is actually a PC that can run something
😄
What test btw?
I have a 5080 and 7950X what are you suggesting?
Tbf, its pretty mid range
I dunno, I run machine learning benchmarks not consumer stuff 😦
Trying out a CPU benchmark
wym? It is not mid range, It initially cost close to 2K
Back in 2020…
And now the cost of it is like 3K with the upgrades
Just bc you spent alot does not mean its high end
3070 was mid range 5 years ago
Also, forgive me. I didn't install Discord on this laptop yet 😦
This is supposed to be. Like that right?
🤷♂️ easy does it
90 percent sire it is just double checking
Yes
Wym?
A 3070 was midrange 5 years ago
It is not a high end pc

9950X3D and 5090 is a high end pc nowadays
Anyone know why my UI is lagging/delayed/ mouse skipping around
Thanks. Still getting fucked by this GPU. Tried putting in another one and that fixed it, putting in both and connecting hdmi to the working one still makes them both not work.
That is actually?
No actually it isn’t…
No lol
I don’t even have a high end pc with a 5080…
70 class cards are never high end
Yes you do lol
80 class is high end, 90 class is enthusiast
Odd
Alot of latency but why hrmmm
70 class is the high part of mid range, 60 is the low part of mid ranged and 50 class is entry level/low end
My ram and cooler and psu are not high end.
So technically speaking for the summary I don’t have a high end one
The 5080 is tho, my 4080 is high end
But soon, very soon
Wth, You do know that it is not needed to buy something new in 10 Years after buying the PC?
I think I'm going to flash my bios, my pc works perfectly fine until my 2080 super gets inserted, it's the only thing I can think of now
psu
I dont think you understand what high end is
2080 could be shitting bricks maybe?
That is: ```
Motherboard: ─ ASUS TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS (WI-FI) (Nuvoton NCT6798D)
PSU: ─ Be Quiet Straight Power 11 Power Supply, Black 1000W 80 Plus Gold
CPU: ─ Intel Core i9 10900K @3.7GHz Base Frequency
CPU Cooler: ─ Liquid Freezer 2 360
RAM: ┬1. 8GB DDR4 @3300MT/s
├2. 16GB DDR4 @3300MT/s
├3. 8GB DDR4 @3300MT/s
└4. 16GB DDR4 @3300MT/s
GPU: ┬1. Intel UHD Graphics 630
├2. Asus Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 TI TUF Gaming
└3. NVIDIA Quadro M2000
System drive: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2 (S4EWNM0NC25426B)
Internal HDD/SSD: ─ Western Digital 1TB SATA 3.5 HDD
External Storage: WD Elements 25A2 USB Device 2TB
case: ─ be Quiet! Dark Base 700
OS: Windows 10 22H2
It's getting power
The 3070/3070ti was never high end
I'm thinking that aswell
what is psu
3070Ti is not a high end card
Is 3926 single and 26154 multi core a decent GB score?
No lol, plus ur in ddr4
Jesus Christ 💀🙏
I dunno, I benchmark AI models lol
Yes, and what about that?
Not high end
Can't remember name , 650W 80 Bronze
Geekbench doesn't let me AI Benchmark
fym? that is not mid range
sounds like psu issue
try other less gpu?
Yes it is lol
Nah, 3060 is midrange
I guess run the CPU bench? I dunno
So is a 70 class card
Doing that:
i thought they must have gone usb-c charging by now
Your ram isn’t high end, 3300mts
Your gpu isn’t high end, 3070Ti
M2000 Quadro is ancient garbage
Your board isn’t high end either…
you can USB charge 🙂
No?
Yes? Look it up
but not the main charger
Plus the 3070 is 5 years old, its no where near high end
Yeah I dunno they brought back magsafe a while back. Magsafe is badass
I don't even understand what kind of mind twister has to be done that it is mid range
The 3090 is barely considered high end now
and yea almost all laptops have usb PD now and i think there was something in the EU about it being required or something
That is my score: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/12792668
Benchmark results for an ASUS System Product Name with an Intel Core i9-10900K processor.
If my score is lower, I shut up
Its never been high end and it will never be, its too weak to be considered high end bud
3070 is considered a standard by now, Ti’s a little higher up. 80-90 less frequent everyone’s on 40 series
if anything happens to the main charger your fucked
it is but thats okay @lime mantle
Dude got wiped after talkin shit
Yk what, imma go benchmark with ye
Okay, I'm sorry then
well kinda
All good
I'm still kinda sour on, You know, But I'm not complaining anymore
proprietary chargers are a massive pain
Imma compare to ye
To who?
@robust trail what cpu you running? 😂
Well, I was gonna use the PC until 2030 or longer
xd
Finally
It really comes down reliability for me. I need this thing to slap chop without and burps. Windows/Linux can burp and do
In this mac? Or my desktop(s)?
or the mac I'm on lol
Whatever you’re running geekbench on
Tell you what, That reality check was something I needed...
The M4 Max 16CPU/40GPU 128gigglebits
i use arch btw
Sentenced to death
i use arch btw
Same to you

Only have that and a GT 710, which to be fair it does work fine without the power cables connected only pcie. suppose I'll try turning off LEDs, unplugging cables, removing ram sticks etc tomorrow
Only started happening recently though
I was a bit disconnected Creaperhead
sounds a bit too much
Well, at least I didn't swear that much
Equivalent punishment to the crime
@robust trail I’ll send results when mines done
too bad i didnt switch to linux yet
wtf are these for?
hdd bays?
Drives??
i use arch btw
They hold drives
AH thought so
hard drives?
Baddie
You’re adding a question mark like I know
I use Windows 10 22H2 Build 19045.6093
They can hold HDD or SSD(SATA)
shame on you
Hdd bay yiss
not even 22h4 this guy is missing out
welp won’t be needing these guys at all
That is probably Windows 11
2 screws or so in the bottom of your case unusually to install (behind the psu) see manual for more instructions
You don't want extra storage?
Probably?
There is no 22H4
Idk, I use Windows 10
You can easily tell via the taskbar
Yeah
i wouldnt know i use arch btw
I miss Windows 7 Home Premium
More round style and softer color palette
ts it latest i believe
Good for you, no 22H4 update your brains database 💁♂️
Win 11?
yes
Welp, time to turn off the breaker to my room
Ya latest for windows 10 is 22H2
get ready to update soon
What is your opinion on Windows 10/11?
3 more months and 4 days
To go to Windows 11?
yes
i like windows 11 more than 10 😛
I just wait
I don't argue on that ngl. At my workplace there are PC's with windows 11 installed
@robust trail
Benchmark results for a Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. X870 GAMING WIFI6 with an AMD Ryzen 9 7950X processor.
Damn, even your CPU is faster
Or should I go now?
compared to what I had
It won’t go beyond 5,6Ghz
windows 10 is coming to end of life soon
October
I'm lucky if I get over 5.3GHz 👀
what was that thing of windows giving some more security updates if you give them more data? didnt look into it
I got 6 cores more than you keep that in mind, that’s if your cpu was combined with a i5-10600
Yup, at 14.10.2025
my 7600 never goes past 4.9 💔
How is it that fast? I got 10C20T
I got 16C32T
Do I even need these
But how does it run that fast?
Keep in mind I’m not even running a AIO, normal double fan cooler
I’d push even further with an aio, even tho temps maxxed out stay under 80c
the one thing that does drive me nuts about MacOS is the migration assistant... let me replace my account with my other Mac's account
Oh 😮
aios were created by big water to convince people to spend money for no reason
Exactly this, although it does look good
i never look inside my pc tbf
I need to clean my 5080 so I put my 1080 inside quickly just to do that benchmark 😂
just using phantom spirit 120
I’m using peerless assassin
Okay, so what aio should I use for my CPU?
used to run a corsair h105i (iirc) 240mm aio with my 9600k build while back
phantom spirit
What do you have
That’s not a aio…
Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 360
arctic freezer 3
You have a cooler that topped benchmarks 💀
youre sorted
No need to change
Okay, in line a bit of time I get one I would say
Wait what?
They do keep temps lower for quieter, and can be much quieter under bursty workloads.
nope stick with your freezer 2, you wont notice a difference at all
By the time you upgrade a LF4 might be released
Oh
I’m going off now now
Though
I'm still rocking an H150i from 2020.
yeah if you have 14900k or something an aio is great but i wouldnt reccomend an aio to the 95% of users who dont need it
Going to sleep
Aio is just a gimmick for people that don’t know shit to feel like they know shit…
what cpu
He has a aio already on a i9-10900K he just didn’t understand the question
For lower powered chips, air coolers are definitely better.
Wat.
those $200 aio $250 case $150 gpu and $90 cpu builds
most users want them for the looks
Why would you buy a aio for any cpu under 200TDP?
Intel Core i9 10900K
which i think is completely valid if youre into that, but i can never back it when they have a really bad system and ONLY care about looks
Exactly my point, it’s for higher end users actually 80-90% using their CPU’s capabilities. No need for aio’s for gaming which is what every tiktok tech kid does…
my builds have always never cared about looks
I mean, my 3950X has a TDP of only "105W".
so 142W
And you’re running a aio? What a waste
It pulls over 200W.
Before I go: the best way to cool the cpu
PBO
This hurts but also clever
That's with a static OC. PBO only pulls around 180W.
Too new
Yeah, top thing is closed off for some reason
I got one because it had rgb lol
the new corsair triple chamber case does this
Please use an air compressor and dust that aio…
Dust-inator
damn you window focus
I just did today
@frosty oriole my dad is rocking one of the old h60’s
Damn
My 3d printer keeps stuttering really bad when it moves anywhere on any axis its a creality ender 3 V3 PLUS
It is nice to have zero noticeable difference in sound in bursty workloads, and it also keeps things a lot cooler in longer workloads.
But not all dust went away
Lol, dang bro. I was using one of those temporarily for my Steam Deck.
I’m going offline again
My dad’s system consists of a corsair 450d, i7 4790k, 16gb ddr3, asus z97 pro wifi ac, and an msi gtx 970
Its a less common msi gtx 970 aswell
Dang, that's an older build. I'm guessing they upgraded the GPU at some point?
my dad has a better build than me
I knew a guy who ran a 4790K as well until about a year or two ago.
Nope
ive ran them before they do good good cpu
Its actually an msi gtx 970 oc
Wait, what year did the 970 come out? I thought the 4790K was older than it.
2014
Similar time as the r9 290
Ohh, okay. I thought Nvidia started the 2-year cycle thing with the 10-Series.
So, I thought it was 900 for '15, 10 for '16, 20 for '18, 30 for '20.
4970k and a 980ti is the dream
🤣
Even more wasteful than akimbo’s system
Worth it for the gpu, cpu wasteful
😫