tech-chat-1

[covert torrent]

i'll still have windows on my other nvme for borked games or stuff with kernel level access, or just stuff that doesn't work on windows

[upper abyss]

yesnt, mostly for lower end systems
basically boils down to this:

1. windows has more support
2. windows is more intuitive

which makes it appealing for literally 99% of users

[latent pasture]

95% of users dont want to be writing anything on terminal ever

[upper abyss]

the fuckass bloated OS doesnt matter on 90% of modern systems anyways

[covert torrent]

1. Wine / Proton for games but i agree some just don't work
2. Linux mint / ubuntu is the equivalent to windows on linux
   and you don't even need the terminal for these os's

[latent pasture]

you click a button and it does whole processes for you
meanwhile to isntall crystaldiskinfo equivalent on linux i had to install like 30 things in terminal

[upper abyss]

realistically linux is only for enthusiasts & who want heavy custimization or servers/other stuff

[covert torrent]

that is such a bad take

[latent pasture]

such a correct and true take

[covert torrent]

ubuntu and mint are very user friendly

[upper abyss]

tried them luckily and i can say i didnt like it personally

[latent pasture]

make them open a terminal and you already lost a potential user

[upper abyss]

tried 2-3 different distros

[covert torrent]

i literally just said you don't even have to open a terminal on some of these

flatpak exists

or just regular runnable installers

[latent pasture]

you are in a tech space talking to tech literate people
you have to understand that the extreme and overwhelmingly large majority of people want to just click button and work

[covert torrent]

most users aren't gonna use gentoo to compile their own kernel and there are just plug and play distros too, it's not restricted to "advanced" users

[latent pasture]

the people you interact with have passed through 20 filters of survivorship bias so u think a normal user is somewhat able to tech around a pc
no, theyre not

[covert torrent]

i understand what you're trying to say but ubuntu is genuinely as user friendly as it gets

it has great security, 90% of anything you'd want to install on it just works because it has executable installers - so no terminal -

[upper abyss]

as said ive tried ubuntu and mint, in terms of linux it is user friendly but nowhere near as userfriendly and intuitive as windows is

try to get an office worker to get on linux and download/install something, stuffs gonna take an hour

[covert torrent]

you do realize that 90% of the world's infrastructure runs on linux

or unix

operated by humans

[upper abyss]

not fully comparable imo

[covert torrent]

get them on ubuntu or mint and they'll do just fine

[upper abyss]

i feel it is utterly pointless talking to you

how about we agree to disagree

[covert torrent]

if you're in an office space you're bound to have some pc skills

[latent pasture]

ur comparing ppl who actively learned pcs to work with pcs to the normal average user?

[trim gyro]

reject both, embrace ChromeOS

[latent pasture]

these people dont know the difference between hdd and ssd

i speak from firsthand ts experience

[upper abyss]

the skill to open word and excel, maybe send an email

[trim gyro]

they'll ask what an HDD is before anything

[covert torrent]

dude, you're implying an office user can't navigate through ubuntu or mint, it's literally windows , just a bit different, you still have .exe files, you still have everything, just better

[upper abyss]

as said talking to you is the definition of self harm

you arent willing to accept or consider anything, despite literally never having seen a REGULAR office working with linux with a likelyhood of 90%

[covert torrent]

maybe i am just too biased, but i think linux can be as user friendly as windows, maybe not as intuitive, but you don't have to open a terminal whenever you have to do something

[upper abyss]

im not talking about infrastructure or more niche offices

[covert torrent]

i still think you saying linux is not user friendly or intuitive is objectively wrong

[upper abyss]

thats fine if you think that, you know why?
because linux is intuitive and friendly to you.
why is that? because youre more literate than the average PC user and have put in time and effort to learn this "new" OS.

[covert torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-ragebait-this-guy-iron-man-tony-stark-gif-3966857531535969686

[covert torrent]

saying linux is intuitive to me is pretty broad, because there is no "linux" your talking about a ton of distros, and some distros are literally made to be friendly and intuitive

i don't think ubuntu can get any closer to windows than it is

[latent pasture]

i cant download a program off the internet and just run it

[covert torrent]

it ticks literally all the boxes except for a few - adobe stuff and kernel level programs that won't work - but if you're running ubuntu on a laptop, you're probably not gonna be able to run adobe suite anyway

[covert torrent]

you literally can

surprise surprise linux has executables how shocking 😳

[upper abyss]

i will now fall into an eternal slumber so i dont have to hear this argument, good night mi³nshel

[latent pasture]

find me a crystaldiskinfo equivalent that requires only downloading 1 file/folder and running it then
no terminals
you download it, click file and the program runs

bc thats how it works on windows

[covert torrent]

you can't run crystaldiskinfo without wine or bottles on ubuntu , but there is an alternative qdiskinfo, and be real, if you know about crystaldiskinfo, you know your way around a pc, the target audience for ubuntu and mint are people with lower spec pc's

[latent pasture]

i see excuses

ill go chat somewhere else maybe youll have an answer by then

[covert torrent]

You can't be real dude 😂

good day

[latent pasture]

lol so u just asserted something is true and made absolutely 0 attempt to prove it

[covert torrent]

What you requested is very windows ux specific, we are talking about day to day internet browsers, you're literally setting me up if you say "Give me a way to 1 click install this advanced tool for linux" when there are pre-installed tools in ubuntu that do the same thing

i don't know what you want me to say man, i respond and you say excuses

Is your mom gonna install crystaldiskinfo on her old thinkpad? probably not

[latent pasture]

🥱

i see excuses
you said you can

[covert torrent]

you said download a program, not crystaldiskinfo, i'm speaking about 90% of programs

you definetely can my guy

[latent pasture]

not even crystaldiskinfo, just any equivalent that can see storage smart data

[covert torrent]

yeah man, qdiskinfo is literally a one click install

gnome-tools is built in ubuntu but you have to open the terminal to run it so it doesn't count

[latent pasture]

yeah, one click on the tutorial site and 10 lines on terminal
technically 1 click

[covert torrent]

no

1 click, click agree and start

better yet, use the equivalent of microsoft store - flatpak - and you have everything in 1 click, even stuff you had to open a terminal for, you don't have to anymore, just 1 click

[latent pasture]

ngek

[covert torrent]

Listen, i'm not trying to say linux is far superior to windows for everyone, but i can and it definetely is user friendly and intuitive, frankly it's way more intuitive

[azure topaz]

im pretty sure i said that already yeah

sounds good

[latent pasture]

oh theres another cmd step too

[azure topaz]

you have some shit ass ram

[covert torrent]

flatpak comes installed on jellyfish ( some of the more recent versions )

and i'm pretty sure they have their own app marketplace too

[south arrow]

[upper abyss]

ikr, fuck this ass RAM i aint even gonna bother

i cant eep, sing me a lullaby

OC my sleep chip

[covert torrent]

Also your acting like you can't go to youtube and search a step by step on how to install a program, so right now we are assuming all linux users are braindead and don't have access to youtube

[latent pasture]

lol this guy just called the majority of pc users braindead

[covert torrent]

nah dude

[trim gyro]

let me tell you about a story of a spear that can pierce anything and a shield that can stop anything

[covert torrent]

i said in this scenario

[latent pasture]

this is why linux doesnt get more users lol

[upper abyss]

arent you literally proving that its insanely impractical?

[covert torrent]

"i think"

[upper abyss]

users defending it with their life, its like a cult

[covert torrent]

searching for help on youtube is impractical?

[azure topaz]

thats my biggest issue

there is a use case where linux is the only valid one and you should use nothing else

[upper abyss]

we are comparing watching a tutorial versus a few clicks btw

[covert torrent]

so you're assuming every windows user will install X program without any issues

[azure topaz]

but there is also use cases where linux is generally not great

[latent pasture]

its literally a fking meme/trope that iliterate pc users end up installing lots of things on their pc

[azure topaz]

being able to admit that and make the distinction is what makes you not a terrible person

[covert torrent]

The point i'm trying to make is that linux cand and is user friendly and intuitive

[azure topaz]

true. give me that cc clean bpro

[covert torrent]

And apparently that's not true

[azure topaz]

sometimes

[covert torrent]

ubuntu and mint are the best examples

[latent pasture]

user friendly and intuitive
in 90% of pc and phone/ whatever OS or ui, this usually means "i used it long enough i got used to it"

[upper abyss]

its not like its useless, its good for servers, custimazation, enthusiasts and low end systems but that really is it

he is insinuiating that linux is very intuitive, even JUST AS intuitive as windows which is simple not true

[latent pasture]

its the same with like ppl fighting fahrenheit and celsius "oh its intuitive that good human temp is 100" "its more intuitive if water boiling is 100"
no idiot you just grew up used to that association

[azure topaz]

generally if i have to google how to use my OS its not off to a good start under "user friendly and intuitive"

[covert torrent]

and what you're saying is that ubuntu looks so much more different from windows to the point where its unusable

[upper abyss]

dont get me started...

[azure topaz]

bro i know people who think windows 11 is unusable because it looks so different than 10

literally YES some people dont want to have to take the time to re-learn something

i know people who dont even want to use the new outlook even though its hardly different than outlook classic

[covert torrent]

and those people can go back to windows, that point is, say your mom has a slow ass laptop and idk your uncle or something comes and installs ubuntu, it's guaranteed she gets a walkthrough or something, but saying linux is not user friendly and unintuitive is objectively wrong

[trim gyro]

I think the point is it's less intuitive than windows

[latent pasture]

to you, because your definition of normal user is above what is the actual norm

[azure topaz]

"and those people can go back to windows" okay man

the rest of your entire sentence was invalidated cause you cant accept that there is right tools for the right job

[covert torrent]

so, getting a short walkthrough - which is in the installer btw - , and using youtube sometimes is above the norm?

[azure topaz]

getting hired at a new office. you come in used to windows. "oh yeah we use linux here get used to it"

what is the typical user going to think

"these computers are spaceships ive never seen anything like this"

[latent pasture]

what installer? there is no installer to begin with lol

[azure topaz]

is exactly what a typical user is going to think

[sleek ibex]

[latent pasture]

you are literally asked to install the capability to have an installer

[upper abyss]

id die

[covert torrent]

The point i am trying to make and you all keep saying it's not true, is that linux is objectively user friendly

[azure topaz]

bro we have to tell people here to google things

[covert torrent]

the ubuntu install

[azure topaz]

i never said its not, but relatively to windows its in a different field

[covert torrent]

you act like windows user don't google issues they have

[azure topaz]

again. admitting that is the entire battle

[latent pasture]

i cant believe i have to explain how this is weird

[azure topaz]

😭

[azure topaz]

seriously

[upper abyss]

3v1 is crazy, hes gonna break his fingers

[covert torrent]

What part of "The ubuntu install" can you not understand?

[azure topaz]

everyone should use NeXTStep its objectively user friendly and easy to use

(i dont think it can even go online today)

[sleek ibex]

Pfft DOS is where it's at

[azure topaz]

this is true

wdym bro you dont know how to cd into a new directory without any gui or help from the OS whatsoever

people had to read books to learn how to use computers

[upper abyss]

btw bro can you tell me why every single piece of hardware ive had so far was an absolute dogshit bin

[azure topaz]

because you buy the cheapest hardware that fits your needs without considering overclocking

[covert torrent]

Are you seriously comparing that to Ubuntu and Mint?

[odd marsh]

which is what most people should do anyways

[sleek ibex]

Everyone should know how to autoexec.bat

[upper abyss]

didnt you say the RAM i had was okay

[azure topaz]

wdym bro you cant make a script that changes your brightness on startup cause it doesnt remember?

wdym bro you have to always use an external mouse cause the OS doesnt have drivers for your touchpad

[upper abyss]

[azure topaz]

wdym bro you didnt know there was unheard of kernel regressions for core 2 duo cpus in the linux kernel for several years

[upper abyss]

IS THAT TRUE? 😭

[trim gyro]

hmm should I get a walnut, alox, or abs swiss army knife 🤔

[azure topaz]

(the very same slow laptops that youre recommending this on)

[covert torrent]

can't understand if your deadass or satirical 💀

[azure topaz]

use that google youre so proud of

[covert torrent]

riddle me this

[azure topaz]

no

[odd marsh]

riddle me this batman

[covert torrent]

why do people take old thinkpads

[odd marsh]

broke

[covert torrent]

or old laptops for a change, and install linux on them if linux is that unreliable and broken

[azure topaz]

riddle me this. why cant you accept that windows is sometimes the proper OS

[odd marsh]

bored

[upper abyss]

installing linux was the biggest mistake of my life fr 😭
took me like 20 hours to fix it because i removed dual boot wrongly

[odd marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-does-he-know-gif-26833694

[covert torrent]

i never said it's not, what i don't accept is that linux isn't user friendly or intuitive

[azure topaz]

i didnt say that

[covert torrent]

That's objectively wrong

[sleek ibex]

DOS is the superior OS obviously

[upper abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-brain-monkey-gif-11098413

[azure topaz]

i said that windows is more user friendly and intiuitive

[covert torrent]

you joined a couple minutes late

[azure topaz]

youre arguing to me though

what i didnt see or argue about doesnt matter because i didnt read it

[covert torrent]

that's the case sure, but linux can and is also user friendly and intuitive

can we agree on that?

[azure topaz]

sure

[trim gyro]

woah the wenger swiss army knife has a serrated blade scissor

[azure topaz]

you wont catch me dead putting linux on a laptop for my mom though

[trim gyro]

that is actually game changing

[azure topaz]

skull emoj

[covert torrent]

That's what i've been trying to say, linux is user friendly and it can be intuitive

[upper abyss]

10 hours till she sends her first email

[upper abyss]

"skull emoj"

[azure topaz]

yeah mom open terminal and update your os

[covert torrent]

idk man no other case came to mind but usually older laptops are used by that age range

[azure topaz]

what you dont know how to do that? jfc just fucking google it mom

[formal sonnet]

Intuitiveness is not that simple. NN Group is the ONLY organization on this planet who seems to give a flying pig about even thinking of usability in the real world. Thing is, what is intuitive to one may not be intuitive to another.

... if we don't consider how easily users can learn the system and we rely on the false assumption that they're just gonna read the manual, they're not gonna be motivated to keep using the design and they'll start looking for something better.
https://www.nngroup.com/videos/usability-101/

[azure topaz]

apt-get update omfg

[odd marsh]

"ok mom here is the terminal, can you go ahead and type sudo apt install..."

[azure topaz]

god a fucking toddler wouldve known that mom

[upper abyss]

can you type sudo delete kernel

[covert torrent]

even arch has Ui for one click updating on kde

so saying "yeah do that in cmd or run this" is completely wrong

[tall flower]

Not me with no PC for several days because I forgot to order new cables before switching cases

[azure topaz]

on kde? what if i didnt install that desktop

[upper abyss]

jesus mom i cant believe we are even related, you cant even use linux

[covert torrent]

i'm talking about arch, the most stripped down distro

[sleek ibex]

Installing Gentoo is a bigger flex than Arch let's be real

[azure topaz]

of course youre talking about arch man

[covert torrent]

obviously ubuntu is gonna have a settings app

[tall flower]

Folks, can't we all just agree that all Linux distros are equally terrible

[azure topaz]

this is rage bait or just being delusional without client -> it experience

[formal sonnet]

Intuitiveness is not automatically afforded to users. The Design of Everyday Things (the book, the audio book, and this course) outlines how to properly design things for the real world. Remember kids, if you ever encounter a door that has a "push" or "pull" sign on it, whomever selected and installed that door has failed.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAwxTw4SYaPlr4Uq3RoYuwlDADp0WQdGl

[odd marsh]

Mom I installed a headless eco friendly open sourced linux os that helps fund puppy shelters, navigate to localhost on your phone and you can get started using your laptop

[covert torrent]

you say that you gotta use the terminal but that's just wrong

there's literally an app where you can do it

[azure topaz]

iits the first result.

[odd marsh]

but mom you've gotta interact on the browser, it's so efficient and I spent hours configuring

[covert torrent]

yeah dude, but there's also a settings app

where you can one click update

just like windows

[upper abyss]

what stuff isnt supported on Linux btw? heard some games

[azure topaz]

yknow that meme where its like going arctic fishing if its not on the first page of google

[covert torrent]

I'm not sure if ubuntu has this but on arch it also updates all your packages

[covert torrent]

most major things are kernel level anticheats and the adobe suite

[odd marsh]

me when I push the pull door, then pull it, then push it again

[azure topaz]

expecting a typical user to do comprehensive research on what distro to install in the first place is wild

[upper abyss]

the first is kinda ass

[covert torrent]

cause devs can't be bothered to code the kernel level anticheats to work for linux kernels

[upper abyss]

i fucking hate this AI overview sometimes

[azure topaz]

the average user doesnt

[upper abyss]

yuh

[azure topaz]

we are in the average user mind right now

[odd marsh]

i think if you add -ai to the end of the query it won't show up

[upper abyss]

its convenient

[odd marsh]

yup

[upper abyss]

mhm

[trim gyro]

if you add a curse word or a slur I think it also doesn't show up

[azure topaz]

thats silly

[covert torrent]

i really hope you're trying to be satirical

[azure topaz]

is this bait to make me google slurs

[covert torrent]

it actually works i think

[odd marsh]

it's a fed trying to make you google some nasty stuff

[covert torrent]

or just don't use google

[odd marsh]

?

[azure topaz]

fr fuck u ice

[upper abyss]

it works, thanks

[covert torrent]

search "linux is so good" and you get a page full of reddit praising linux

[odd marsh]

happy to help

[covert torrent]

pointless argument

[upper abyss]

yes, because youre in a cult

[covert torrent]

real linux users just ping the website and imagine the information

[azure topaz]

we gave you what you want im just saying

linux is user friendly

[covert torrent]

how does that tie into searching up why is linux bad being a pointless argument

[latent pasture]

notice how it has to be an external community to have to come together on their own on a page of their making

[covert torrent]

intuitive or not depends on the person

[upper abyss]

sorry i dont speak to cult members

[covert torrent]

but it definetely can be user friendly, that's what i've been trying to say

[upper abyss]

FINALLY HE GETS IT, WHAT

this...this is Impossible

[covert torrent]

i genuinely think some of you hate on linux just because other people do

[azure topaz]

playboi carti

[covert torrent]

not backed up by anything solid or anything

[sleek ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/gendo-neon-genesis-evangelion-anime-smirk-gif-14884772

This is so entertaining

[azure topaz]

bro ask ai where a letter is that doesnt exist in a word and itll point it out

[latent pasture]

you made a claim that you asserted was objectively true then also didnt back it up with anything solid or anything

[covert torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/arch-linux-btw-i-use-gif-13195658377933011786

[whole garden]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[upper abyss]

literally there were countless arguments, you ignored them all but i guess you cant expect a blind man to see

[covert torrent]

linux being intuitive and user friendly is correct

[latent pasture]

you couldnt even answer my initial question that you directly pinged me was supposed to be a true fact

[covert torrent]

what question

[latent pasture]

install an app

[upper abyss]

b-but youre using something windows specific

[azure topaz]

if what you want isnt on linux youre supposed to relearn a FOSS alternative with poor documentation and bugs because its better

did you not know that minshel

[sleek ibex]

DOS is superior is all I have to say

[upper abyss]

AI will tell you invest 30.000€ in "shit on a stick".
No im not kidding, google it.

[covert torrent]

snap store

[sleek ibex]

Trolololololol

[odd marsh]

I technically dual boot linux on my laptop but the only time I do boot into it is on accident

[covert torrent]

literallt built into ubuntu, no cmd needed

[azure topaz]

i have a homelab i interact with liunux every day and i rely onit

[upper abyss]

rs

[azure topaz]

this shit is my dns server bro i wouldnt be typing w/out it

[sleek ibex]

Pouring one out for OS/2 Warp

[latent pasture]

do you mean the default appstore that comes with ubuntu
what app there gives functionality similar to cdi then

[azure topaz]

but it wont be seen in offices

[odd marsh]

I guess i've got my truenas box but eh

[covert torrent]

qdiskinfo

[upper abyss]

the only chance id EVER use linux again is if i would turn masochist and enjoy being psychologically tortured

[latent pasture]

u thought that wasnt the first thing i searched??

[azure topaz]

i enjoy linux!

LOL

[odd marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/false-gif-10814314758405640492

[upper abyss]

do you though?

[odd marsh]

mod he is rage baiting

[azure topaz]

we have left the avg user mindset and have entered the poor documentation mindset

[covert torrent]

??? what are you even trying to say, qdiskinfo isn't a good alternarive?

[odd marsh]

the avg user is so stupid man

[latent pasture]

its not in the appstore

[covert torrent]

snapstore

[odd marsh]

Tkitchs office is a great example LOL

[azure topaz]

MY OFFICE BRO

[upper abyss]

jarvis, run valorant on linux

[clear canyon]

I make it go boom

[sleek ibex]

BBS should make a comeback

[covert torrent]

or any kernel level ac for that matter

[odd marsh]

the amount of requests I see weekly for people trying to log into something with an account that just does not have permissions is crazy

[azure topaz]

i agree they should be a stock option on every subaru even today

[odd marsh]

me when I had to create a whole new helpsheet to explain to middle aged people what a private/ incognito window was

[azure topaz]

(bbs rims are unironically some of my fav)

[covert torrent]

there's like a million different alternatives to cdi on linux, qdiskinfo is just the most popular one that i could think of

your point being?

[odd marsh]

brazilian butt sag?

[latent pasture]

ok, install them in a click

[azure topaz]

i have to explain windows 11 to boomers in a warehouse production scenario im not hyped

[sleek ibex]

Bulletin Board System

[covert torrent]

Snapstore

[odd marsh]

nah man teach them arch isntead

[covert torrent]

firefox > cdi linux alternative > get alternative name > check snapstore and install

[upper abyss]

TO END THIS, show a short screen recording doing it

[azure topaz]

we have gone to the point of making direct comparisons with REAL it helpdesk experience without even flaming linux

that still ends up invalidating the entire point

[covert torrent]

are we being deadass 💔

[azure topaz]

of this entire conversation

[upper abyss]

ofc bro doesnt wanna do allat 💔 because its linux, i dont blame you

[azure topaz]

giggled

[covert torrent]

i don't run ubuntu

i use arch btw

[latent pasture]

he said it

[upper abyss]

i only run templeOS

[sleek ibex]

Linux vs Windows debate whilst I'm just dropping random obsolete OSes and servers

[latent pasture]

he literally said the meme unironically

[azure topaz]

points for windows cause there isnt 9 million variants that matter

[odd marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/templeos-terry-terry-davis-davis-cia-gif-1369094491589270089

[azure topaz]

nextstep my goat

[covert torrent]

true

[odd marsh]

oh look its ubuntu

[azure topaz]

if terry didnnt even use arch ill never consider it

[sleek ibex]

Terry Davis doing TempleOS all on his own is actually nobel I can't lie

[odd marsh]

real

[covert torrent]

maybe linux isn't for everyone but it is user friendly, i think my point still stands, and frankly i just wanna leave it at that

[azure topaz]

temple os is userfriendly and intuitive

[odd marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-otter-rubbing-eyes-tired-irritated-gif-16638234

[azure topaz]

to the point where terry davis didnt know how to use it sometimes

[upper abyss]

"im right, i cant prove it, lets just leave it at that"

[covert torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-shaquille-shaq-timeout-ethical-gif-9311067668442735802

wtf

[covert torrent]

how did i not prove it

[upper abyss]

"wait, why is this not in games? this should be in games, ill do it later"

or

"i never do ripoffs...oh, here we have spaceshooter"

or

"i dont trust that fish"

[azure topaz]

hating on any specific os and encouraging users to relearn their seemingly simple tasks when theyre not enthusiasts is just dense

hating on macos is stupid

hating on linux is stupid

[covert torrent]

So, beyond the fact you get a walkthrough after you install, you have a one click store, and way better performance on older hardware, simmilar look to windows, how is that not user friendly

[azure topaz]

hating on windows is stupid

[upper abyss]

i dont trust that fish

[odd marsh]

I would trade my laptop for a Macbook in a second it is unbelivable man

[covert torrent]

shit i mean i totally agree

[azure topaz]

there is frequently right tools for the right job and let me say theres a lot of things to have tools for

[sleek ibex]

Just use whatever works for you and makes you happy. End of discussion

Thank you for listening to my TedTalk

[azure topaz]

can i donate

[odd marsh]

whaaaaaa??

[covert torrent]

but i never said you have to force someone to use your os, i'm just saying that "Hey, this exists, it's user friendly, it's accessible."

[azure topaz]

fuck you ios users go to android fucking idiots

[odd marsh]

dude I am unfriending you

[azure topaz]

(i have two iphones)

[odd marsh]

not cool man 🤓

[azure topaz]

(and not a single android device)

[covert torrent]

have you jailbroken either one?

[azure topaz]

(i have an old samsung tablet i used as an aida panel actually)

[upper abyss]

man IOS is the only benefit for apple how you hatin on it

[azure topaz]

yes i tinker with things often

ive rooted any device i could and jailbroken any ios device i could

[upper abyss]

(i agree)

[covert torrent]

i can't jailbreak my old iphone 7 because i'm on amd

[azure topaz]

i overclock any computer that is overclockable even through arguably stupid means

[covert torrent]

but i am happy you can load animated wallpapers without jailbreakinf

[odd marsh]

i've never jailbroken any of my iPhones

[azure topaz]

i daily drove a 7 and 8 jailbroken

[upper abyss]

we should all use linux, you know why? because TECHNICALLY android is linux anyways

[azure topaz]

it was when the X/R was just coming out and i wanted a home bar

[covert torrent]

ummm that actually depends cause some builds are based more on unix 🤓

[odd marsh]

I just do not need my phone that customizable at all

[azure topaz]

cause idek ill say it the homebar is better than any android gestures aiming to do the same thing

[sleek ibex]

macOS is unix based so it technically counts too /j

[azure topaz]

and homebuttons are stupid

(although haptic buttons are cool)

[odd marsh]

I can text, call, and browse the web on my phone, and I like iOS design and feel

[covert torrent]

it's not based that much on unix, pretty sure it's full of proprietary apple shit but it does also use unix

do not update to ios 26

[azure topaz]

still no checkrain port for windows? wild

cant u do it thru qemu in linux tho

[covert torrent]

not because it's not on windows

[azure topaz]

this is something youd want to do so i mean not a stupid reco

[covert torrent]

they offer the bootable usb thing

[sleek ibex]

Meh no need since I'm on android

[covert torrent]

but amd is just buggy for stuff like that

[azure topaz]

i was doing it before it leaving macos was a twinkle in their eye bro

[plain cypress]

macOS is unix based
Fixed that for ya

[covert torrent]

no reason, they just say "'may or may not work on amd based systems"

[azure topaz]

i see

+200 points for intel

-2000000 for amd

https://tenor.com/view/scream-intel-scream-if-you-love-intel-gif-14141233320413452437

[upper abyss]

can someone help me go to this tech stores location and beat the shi outta the employees?
when i bought it until today it said in stock, now its not.
they have not sent my fuckass gpu yet in 3 days

[covert torrent]

I actually did manage to go through once but i ran out of battery 🙁

[azure topaz]

3 days is fine, give it a week before hhaving real concenrs

[upper abyss]

im desperate

[covert torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/fact-check-kellanrockssoccer-gif-2569170256995872124

[upper abyss]

i wanna play expedition 33

[azure topaz]

just hackintosh the computer for one app bro

[latent pasture]

msg them abt possibly wanting to refund theyll get to work quick

[azure topaz]

(unless youre on am5, then fuck you)

[covert torrent]

i'm on am5

[sleek ibex]

Bintel, AyymD, and Novideo

[upper abyss]

i wonder if that works lmao

[covert torrent]

fuck me bro what can i even do 😔

[azure topaz]

notice how my goat cyrix isnt there?

[azure topaz]

coincidence???

[sleek ibex]

We should bring back Cyrix because funny

[azure topaz]

ill do a modern one too, what about ampere arm cpus

centaur?

[plain cypress]

What's stopping you

[azure topaz]

yall know centaur?

[sleek ibex]

Sure

[upper abyss]

my gpu

[azure topaz]

centaur isnt even that old

[plain cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-running-headless-horseman-gif-24355994

Like that?

[azure topaz]

and guess what they stole intels 2011 ihs and socket

[plain cypress]

Wait no it's missing the man part

[plain cypress]

Sick

[sleek ibex]

Let's bring back consumer level Matrox cards, S3, Tseng Labs, and Cirus Logic too whilst we're at least it too

[azure topaz]

im not even lying

[plain cypress]

Download a new gpu

[covert torrent]

what the fuck is centaur

[azure topaz]

a person i knew dailied one at some point

[upper abyss]

send link to download more fps

[azure topaz]

obviously for memes but he did it successfully

[covert torrent]

geforce now

[plain cypress]

Next people will be saying "what the fuck is VIA"

[azure topaz]

and no they are not remotely fast

[upper abyss]

ew

[azure topaz]

LITERALLY!

[covert torrent]

it might be crazy what i'm bout to say

[rose stream]

That's... A "horsetyr."

[azure topaz]

(maybe im the weird one for knowing so much obscure hardware)

[plain cypress]

I guarantee the only x86 I've experienced is Intel and amd

[covert torrent]

but what the fuck is via dude

[azure topaz]

i cannot say the same im positive ive used others

cyrix via (not centaur)

[thorny saddle]

flip flops up in here

[sleek ibex]

Remember when Matrox was still making consumer grade cards and were popular with Linux users? pepperidge farms remembers

[thorny saddle]

i had a cyrix x86 for a minute

[plain cypress]

Tbh almost exclusively Intel

I had a crappy AMD netbook
A nice AMD desktop family PC
2700x
ROG g14
Steam deck

[azure topaz]

oh buddy let me tell you about matrox

[thorny saddle]

but i was way too young to remember

[azure topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXIRovqeUMQ

[rose stream]

Cirrus moved to embedded audio solutions mostly, and they're pretty big now for it.

[azure topaz]

watch your mind be blown

1. theres new matrox cards>>>
2. the drivers are actually decent??!?!

[upper abyss]

guys do i sleep 3 hours and risk ruining my day by sleeping more (i have to work sometime later) or do not sleep and also risk ruining my day by falling asleep or being tired

[azure topaz]

1st one

[upper abyss]

okay 🫡

[rose stream]

So basically their Radeon PRO cards then.

[azure topaz]

yes

old ones at that

i think he said they were terascale or gcn?

[rose stream]

Sadly not the same as the ones they had that was their own in-house graphics architecture. They were more interesting then, at least without devaluing the level of stability their Radeon cards have.

Those things are practically bug-proof.

[sleek ibex]

How am I just now learning of this?

[azure topaz]

LOL

[sleek ibex]

[azure topaz]

dont forget about budget builds

he leaves youtube and comes back the same as he left when the world needs him most

ive literally watched this guy since the beginning and hes a large part of my childhood

which is sad to say but hey take what you can get

[sleek ibex]

Fair. Matrox doesn't have the marketing compared to when it did back in the late 90s/early 2000s

[azure topaz]

they had another one 3 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apbic7qdRNE

[plain cypress]

I'm sorry what is matrox

[sleek ibex]

Though TBF Matrox hasn't been relevant in over 20 years

[thorny saddle]

unfortunately a ton of server shit still uses it

R750 has it

R760 has it lol

[graceful girder]

unc status

[sleek ibex]

Sounds about right

[sleek ibex]

Oddly enough in the retro computing scene, Matrox cards like the Millenniums and Mystiques are popular choices to pair with for 3DFX Voodoo1/2 cards

Those and S3s (for more compatibility)

[graceful girder]

to me retro gaming is an i3 or celeron😭

what kinda games u even play on that, pacman?

[gentle kestrel]

apparently 10 series just lost driver support

all the tiktok 1080ti kids are in shambles

[clear canyon]

What generation?? Thats just the low end branding

[sleek ibex]

Celerons have existed since the 90s

[formal sonnet]

You can play lots on the latest generation Intel i3 processors. Apex. Rocket League, Cyberpunk (technically.)

[clear canyon]

But it will be not ideal for high fps

[sleek ibex]

And Pentiums too as they were Flagships once upon a time

[clear canyon]

Id say 60fps give or take for most newer games

[clear canyon]

Yep, and heaters

[gentle kestrel]

i had a 13100f and it was fine for most stuff

[clear canyon]

They become obsolete pretty quick

[sleek ibex]

There was a time that a computer build would be obsolete within a few months time
Because computers were evolving that fast

[gentle kestrel]

the target market of the i3 isn't targeting like 4k ultra anyhow

[clear canyon]

Well duh lol

[gentle kestrel]

you can get a 14100f for 90 bucks rn

not bad for 4 alder cores

[clear canyon]

Yes, but they become obsolete quickly. Just take a look at the other latest i3s, they are pretty weak

[graceful girder]

never really had a good i3 in my life tbh, i used to game on a hinge problem laptop

[clear canyon]

Plus, 4 cores is pretty bad now days

[graceful girder]

with like 2gig of ram

[sleek ibex]

There's a reason why 486 overdrives (lesser extent pentium overdrives) were a thing back in the day

[clear canyon]

Ouch

[south arrow]

i5 however are noice especially 12-14th gens

[gentle kestrel]

they don't look that bad

i wouldn't consider anything lga1200 latest

[clear canyon]

I wish quad cores would stop being made as they are not very practical for long term use

[sleek ibex]

Hard to believe that the first consumer quad core Intel CPU was released nearly 20 years ago

[gentle kestrel]

6 core wasn't really a consumer thing till 2017 as well

[sleek ibex]

Core 2 Quad Q6600 was the one

Man that's a terrifying thought

That it turns 20 next year

[south arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/savingprivateryan-ww2-old-soldier-matt-damon-gif-4203998

Toy story turning 30 soon like, that msi builds kinda dope though ngl

[sleek ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-sunrise-sun-face-wacky-gif-6198132

[untold lance]

is this computer decent for games like fortnite and and stuff like that at atleast 60fps? https://www.newegg.com/mloong-gaming-desktop-amd-radeon-rx-6600-amd-ryzen-5-5500-16gb-ddr4-1tb-pcie-ssd-white/p/3D5-0060-00005?Item=9SIBNXWK4P7450

idk much bout pcs so im asking here

[south arrow]

Is it already built?

[untold lance]

yeah

[south arrow]

For the price itll play most games 16gb of ram is rough though ngl

[untold lance]

i thought 16gb would be good?

[ebon marlin]

Nah

16gb of ram is bare minimum nowadays

[untold lance]

damn

[south arrow]

Id aim for 32gb for most recent titles but itll still play most things ❤️

[untold lance]

fire ty guys

[ebon marlin]

Most games nowadays require 32gb

[sleek ibex]

32GB is the new happy medium these days

[untold lance]

i can always upgrade when i get a lil more money

[clear canyon]

Yeah dont go under 16

[formal sonnet]

Depends on the games you play. 16GB is certainly viable, but having 32GB is becoming more and more necessary.

[ebon marlin]

Are there any microcenters near u cuz they carry significantly better prebuilts

[granite sundial]

finally figured out the perfect combo to get what i wanted thanks fan control

[viral osprey]

Hello everyone

[peak knot]

Daily reminder that crazy high voltages and low voltages can be right beside each other…. Especially in older tech

1/2 an inch separates 2v and 350V

Jesus half this resistor array is at 350V…. WHY

For reference it’s not fully dead…. But it ain’t happy either

[south arrow]

Hrmmmm

[compact fulcrum]

for a budget friendly pc thats enough to run stalker 2, will this be enough?

[formal sonnet]

https://support.stalker2.com/hc/en-us/articles/27929194969105-System-Requirements-Guide

[peak knot]

… well I think that sets a new record on highest voltage I’ve seen on my multimeter

[grizzled frost]

if you touch here you get no shock, if you touch he- *fried hair noises*

[latent pasture]

5800x bad for that price, 5700x is like 11k php

or if u really wanna save 5600 is 7k

[grizzled frost]

imo, any new system should be on AM5

the 7500f from aliexpress is unbeatable in price to performance

[latent pasture]

actually yeah that 5800x combo is just straight up shite

[grizzled frost]

also on a platform that gives you room to upgrade to the best gaming CPU in existence

[latent pasture]

its actually cheaper to go 7500f am5 ddr5

am5 mobo prices r the same as that b550

and the price difference of 15k->9k affords the ddr5 ram

[grizzled frost]

should get you 32GB, which that game suggests

[latent pasture]

tho from what i heard stalker 2 is a ue5 gpu hog slop

[south arrow]

Jesus

[latent pasture]

the savings lets u push the gpu to the double vram version for about 1k more total (44k vs 43k)

[compact fulcrum]

we dont have the 16gb in my region

big problem

[latent pasture]

buy online

do u live in like npa territory

/s

[compact fulcrum]

ye bad news

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[austere cargo]

Anything to change? I have a rtx 2080 and a 1tb sata ssd. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H762MC

[swift kestrel]

Oh well it lasted a good 6 years

[wicked cipher]

@south arrow you and your wife might like this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsfZ8eNuHSg

[latent pasture]

if ur basically overhauling ur pc y not spend lie $25-30 more and get a high quality 750w/850w psu so youll never buy one again for a decade and will have no limits on gpu upgrade choice (650w is on the hmmge side)

[vocal drum]

What the hell YouTube? Not giving names of videos now?

[austere cargo]

okay

[frigid blade]

Rate the rgb build

8 fan airflow

4090 ecu

[latent pasture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q3Nscf/corsair-rm750e-2025-750-w-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020292-na hmmm if u rly want white its a bit more expensive than usual

[whole garden]

2/10

[latent pasture]

is revanced considered piracy in here

[wicked cipher]

FAMILY/10

[frail delta]

It breaks the YouTube ToS

[azure topaz]

is breaking youtubes tos against discords

[swift kestrel]

Will this work with my acer nitro 5 2019

[frail delta]

Rule 9

[latent pasture]

if its ddr4 it should
its all jedec anyway so theres no xmp die quality etc important to fuss about

[swift kestrel]

Alr thanks

[heady briar]

Anyone tryna help

[azure topaz]

bro just ask the question in the first message

aint nobody tryna wait 20 years for you to respond back

all you said was "ay guys" in tc2 i was waiting for ANYTHING else 😭

(youre chillin)

[formal sonnet]

I try to help everyday... when not too tired to help, that is.

[azure topaz]

goppa help

just meanly

but its free so you cant complain that much if i insult you but your issue is fixed

[heady briar]

Thanks

[random gyro]

it just occured to me that The Simpsons: Tapped Out is no longer on the app or play store

[formal sonnet]

https://gamerant.com/simpsons-tapped-out-ending-shut-down/

[heady briar]

Just cable management

Idk what cables I use

[twin kiln]

Need a sanity check. Can I make a nas out of https://a.co/d/8rjVy6S , https://a.co/d/bSyz8Ak , https://a.co/d/cDdqhDZ , and https://www.microcenter.com/product/673712/raspberry-pi-5 plus drives? I already have a HAT for the pi that has 2 m.2 slots, one will have a ssd for booting, the other will have the adapter which will connect to the enclosure, which will finally be populated with hdds.

[formal sonnet]

Ah yes, cable management can be a "chore" the first time you build a PC, but is often satisfying once you get the hang of it. Tell us a bit about your setup (make/model of parts) and share some clear, well-lit, in-focus photos showing what you're trying to manage, then patiently await a response. Everyone's gotta start somewhere.

[heady briar]

…

my specs

[random gyro]

sorry but what is this ad

[heady briar]

Go general

@formal sonnet I have a 24 pin cable but it don’t even fit on the power supply

https://tenor.com/view/rage-angry-gamer-compute-smash-gif-21456130

[twin kiln]

While the side that plugs into the motherboard is standardized, the side that plugs into the psu is not. So it's not a good idea to mix and match power supply cables

Even from the same manufacturer

[heady briar]

Yeah

Get on call

[wicked cipher]

alr chat, ima let yall decide what i buy, hitman 2, hitman contracts, postal 2 or garfield kart?

[swift kestrel]

Lmao

[sinful cobalt]

[formal sonnet]

What @twin kiln said above. One end goes into the PSU, the other end into the motherboard. Most of these cables only fit one way, so if it doesn't go in the way you have it, reverse the cable.

[sinful cobalt]

who is using just 1 slot unless its a pc made of salvaged parts

[swift moss]

we found the semiconductor manufacturer advertising fake airpods 😭

honestly if you know where to get it, there are probably some earbuds out there that are far better than airpods

[swift moss]

asdfgh aint wrong

[echo token]

Downloaded driver, extracted the files, try to run it, click yes to making changes to the device... then nothing happens, any ideas?

[grizzled nova]

Is there a chance this could still work????

[idle vessel]

it says not working

[formal sonnet]

Not a chance. The CPU is cracked.

[sullen ice]

need help #1389467700975108176

[grizzled nova]

I definitely think I could get it to work

Just fill the crack with thermal paste

[idle vessel]

not probably, definitely

airpods are mediocre at best

[swift moss]

airpods are amazing

for the hardware they have in them

sounds amazing and anc is amazing and convenience is top notch

[sinful cobalt]

^

[idle vessel]

for like $200-300 you can get way better sound that won’t fade audio in like 1 year

[sinful cobalt]

theres better pure audio solutions but airpods pro 2s are very well rounded and their ANC is heavenly

[swift moss]

fade audio, fyo about?

[swift moss]

yeah its the convenience

[idle vessel]

sound slowly fades from every pair i’ve used

[swift moss]

you must have weird pairs, im using airpods pro bought in 2019 and they sound literally stock

[junior valve]

through the power of imagination

[idle vessel]

i heavily doubt all of my pairs and friends have bad batches or are schizophrenic or something

[swift moss]

only sad part is I got the firmware update that worsened anc but that was because I accidentaly connected my iphone to the internet

[swift moss]

dude where is this documented 😭

in fact its overwhelmingly positive

[idle vessel]

happened to all my pairs

[swift moss]

ok, and?

[idle vessel]

regardless i’d rather wired iems for the convenience

[swift moss]

its an opinion for a reason, im looking at a general consensuc

[grizzled nova]

Same

[swift moss]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-drop-gif-1982649100088909979

im sorry, what?

[sinful cobalt]

airpods for outside, wired for indoors

[swift moss]

dude 90% of phones dont even have 3.5mm anymore

[swift moss]

if im indoors its studio monitors or open backs

[idle vessel]

i would rather use a pair i will never lose or fall out of my ears

[idle vessel]

those who buy a dac

[sinful cobalt]

The only thing about my airpods is that the audio has gotten softer… Like I went from volume 8 to volume 10 overtime

[swift moss]

at that point i'd be more worried about losing and carrying them around

the best dacs are unironically in phones

[idle vessel]

literally what i was talking about

i am not insane

[swift moss]

can you name the difference between a phone and dac dac?

[sinful cobalt]

its not that deep buddy

[swift moss]

idk i might just be getting deafer lmfao

i need an iphone to see what db im listening at lol

[grizzled nova]

Is a dac similar to a sound card

[idle vessel]

Yep the airpods aren’t the issue you’re just becoming deaf

Glory to airpods man

[swift moss]

still airpods way smaller and dont need to carry around 2things

[swift moss]

sorta, a sound card usually has some dsp and amplification as well

[sinful cobalt]

I have always left my airpods in the pocket lmao

[swift moss]

nono I mean like im not noticing it because im deaf

but the general internet is not experiencing this issue

[grizzled nova]

Ik what a dac looks like
But what is the benefit to them other than volume control (or other settings)

[idle vessel]

connect the dac to the iems

[swift moss]

benefit of a DAC? a lot of audio comes in digital form when its converted

[idle vessel]

it is now 1 thing

[swift moss]

headphones can only play analog audio

[sinful cobalt]

My airpod case battery is def lower than b4, the airpods themselves have maintained quite good battery life tho

[swift moss]

by nature

you cant play digital pulses through a speaker, you can convert them to an analog voltage and play that as a frequency

[sinful cobalt]

wired iems ftw when im home

[grizzled nova]

Interesting

[swift moss]

i hate shit boring into my ears for no reason at home

although I can sit with iems in for like 6 hours, its easier with comfy sennie open backs or speakers

[sinful cobalt]

i use speakers if Im watching vids

if im in a call or playing games then ofc iems

[swift moss]

yeah and DSP is also extremely intersting, FIR and IIR filters, biquad, etc..

[grizzled nova]

Idk a lot about audio I need to learn more

[swift moss]

currently actually designing one

[wicked cipher]

im fully switching to linux mint, pray for me!

[formal sonnet]

Not religious, but good luck all the same! Mint is a good choice if this is your first foray into Linux.

[idle vessel]

The Enlightenment

[verbal prawn]

if there is linux mint is there linux peppermint

[idle vessel]

https://peppermintos.com/

[verbal prawn]

checks out

[ebon marlin]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidias-next-major-gpu-driver-branch-to-drop-support-for-geforce-gtx-700-900-and-10-series

Damn both 900 and 10 series together

[latent pasture]

how to get people to buy rtx gpus evil ver.

[hardy lichen]

We had a good run GTX-bros

[ebon marlin]

The lion doesn't concern himself with outdated drivers

[hardy lichen]

Its almost decade old. I think it makes sense. Just buy yourself a b580 if you're that petty.

[inner veldt]

Is it good deal to buy Formd T1 for 100 USD? Brand new

[rigid fjord]

i'm not really sure on that dude, it might or it might not

[hardy lichen]

For 100 bucks. Thats a good price new. Cheapest new are near 200 bucks

hopefully it aint those fake ones

[rigid fjord]

you're not as cool as murderbot

[swift moss]

its fine, I think i figured it out, I need some help deciding a resistor value now lmfao

pretty sure its impossible for such a current drop

[swift moss]

im trynna go from like 1.5A -> 0.01mA @rigid fjord

or at least tahts what the datasheet suggests is the input voltage idk

[rigid fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/efficiency-murderbot-gif-13392297863837650430

[sinful cobalt]

yes

[grim pasture]

YOO guys, my friend just build a pc with a 6800 xt and a ryzen 5 7500f. Is ita good combination

[rigid fjord]

it's fine, personally would have gone with a 7600x with the 6800xt myself

[grim pasture]

Why, the 7500f has way better value for 130 usd

[swift moss]

this is giving 12k but its 12k for 7.5V

[grim pasture]

Also he's going to pair a 360 kraken NZXT with the 7500f, good idea?

[rigid fjord]

hmm, as it's going to be a pull down, could try 1k ohms and tweak it on either side

[swift moss]

yeah ill just shove 1k in there honestly

[rigid fjord]

7600x has a fair bit more performance

[swift moss]

if it blows it blows, but its internally pulled down so its fine

[true stirrup]

No

[swift moss]

im not actually using it for its intended purpose though, Im always leaving the reciever on

so tied high

[echo token]

Oiii there is like a little crackling noise in the psu

That sounds like an issue

[rigid fjord]

very bad idea, that's the reason why they have to go cheaper on the cpu, by buying a flashy but ultimately shit aio

[grim pasture]

he´s an aesthetics gooner, absolutely abnoxious. He´s always making fun of my thermalright peerles assasin paired with my 7800x3d "you should've gotten an AIO"

[swift moss]

@rigid fjord shit is coming together

[grim pasture]

what are you making?

[grim pasture]

also how do you become regular?

[ivory fjord]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/YWVfgn

This a good build?

[latent pasture]

at that low budget buy used
uk has good used market

[onyx idol]

I'm broker than broke. I can't exactly afford even a decent used GPU

[swift moss]

register with forums i think idk

awkwardly enough i dont have my forum acc linked

[swift moss]

hdmi audio extractor

had to make a whole ass tranciever to get the audio out

[grim pasture]

interesting

[swift moss]

*with hdcp and iec 61937 decoding

[rigid fjord]

not really, what's your budget?

[rigid fjord]

alot of 10nf caps there for filtering

[swift moss]

hardware manual said yeah, a 10nf and 100nF for each pin

its probably not going to work first try but oh well

nothing ever does aye

[abstract wigeon]

any idea if the asus back power connector will be coming to radeon cards?

[random gyro]

if my pc is lagging, is bitdefender making it a lot worse

or not

[inner veldt]

Its not

[trim idol]

It might to the radeon cards Asus makes

[random gyro]

hey, my 3 months old PC just did this . anyone knows what it could be?

could it be a random crash without bad cause?

[trim idol]

The TSA stopped your kernel

[random gyro]

tsa?

[random gyro]

aight imma call support

[still coral]

@rigid fjord Are you able to boot the PC again afterwards?

[plush wren]

[serene pumice]

Tsk, surely they'll release the 24GB VRAM 5070 ti Super for 499$

[empty heron]

They played a long con since tbf i want all of those

[rigid fjord]

wrong person to ask that to

[still coral]

my bad

[rigid fjord]

power of actual reading

[serene pumice]

Rauko is not able to boot the pc afterwards, confirmed.

[empty heron]

Stage freight?

[still coral]

@random gyro Are you able to boot the PC again afterwards?

[empty heron]

Performance anxiety?

[rigid fjord]

i've still yet to turn my pc off to install my new additional ssd

[empty heron]

just plug it in

[rigid fjord]

not hotswap so you can't do that

[trim idol]

What could go wrong?

[empty heron]

Plug it in

[empty heron]

Depends where you plug it

On that note

[trim idol]

Let's go for a wall socket

[empty heron]

Hdds taste like static

[rigid fjord]

if only some people would do that themselves

darwinism and natural selection might start happening again

[empty heron]

Funny story here, when i was a luttle spawn of satan i had this box that had a small key

In my infinite wisdom i associated putting in key and turning it with opening things

So guess who put that key into a wall socket

Yeah so 230v makes you see shit

[random gyro]

sorry, yeah

im playing normal rn

it happened during league of legends, no wearm temps

[true stirrup]

Well here is your answer to what went wrong then

[random gyro]

league ?

[true stirrup]

Vanguard probably blue screened you

[random gyro]

huh

thats possible ! its 3 months old and never had issues

even diagnosed ram day 1

[still coral]

Check if you have any driver updates, if not run the command "sfc /scannow" in your terminal as an administrator. It will scan and repair any corrupt files that might have caused it.

[sinful cobalt]

heh vanguard

malware

[rigid fjord]

you forgot the dism ones

[random gyro]

will do ,ty !

Found corr. files and repaired them " , thanks @still coral !!"

[still coral]

no problem

[granite sundial]

why is gpu tweak 3 so garbage the fan curve won't apply

[velvet kelp]

is it possible to perform a clean boot in Windows within an VM? if so how´?

[still coral]

I didn't include those because it seemed like a minor issue. If sfc command didn't fix it then that would have been my next recommendation.

[granite sundial]

fans keep turning on despite me saying not to and I can't use a third party utility because third party software can't set it to 0 rpm

[river harbor]

dors anyone know what games argb fans go crazy

the front ones just do whatever the fuck they want

[dense oak]

Anyone got windows 11 installed? Can you see how much gb is the windows folder

[true stirrup]

Should be around 20-30GB

[dense oak]

before I reinstalled it just now it was 51gb

[swift moss]

@rigid fjord someone once asked me how many testing point LEDs do I want, I replied yes

[dense oak]

:| now it's 32

[river harbor]

mine is 27.4gb

[dense oak]

10 or 11?

[river harbor]

installed like last week

windows 11

[dense oak]

interesting

[river harbor]

all ive done is install some steam games but that shouldn't use the windows folder

man I got this new pc and I wanna sell it already

Its not even here yet but 5950x 3080ti sounds like a fucking heater

in summer 😩

[dense oak]

place it further away

[river harbor]

I can probably just sell it and get 7700x rtx 5070 no?

[rigid fjord]

it doesn't but tbh as it creates a folder in the program files folder unless you've specified a separate drive, it eats up drive space

[river harbor]

I have some in my boot drive some in separate hdd drive

[swift moss]

hopefully this doesnt fuck with the impedance of the video routes too much, they supposed to be 105R but having an extra trace coming out of the pin might not be too good for it

[river harbor]

my room is a furnace

[rigid fjord]

no games are on my boot drive tbh, they're all in their own drives

[river harbor]

I think I mostly have installers

so I can install games when my new pc arrives

[dense oak]

wait

your windows boot drive is a hard drive?

[latent pasture]

try undervolting

[dense oak]

big metal thingy?

[dense oak]

capping fps also works or running PC in balanced power profile

[river harbor]

no, nvme

[echo token]

Anyone know what this could be?

[river harbor]

I have a 1tb nvme 1tb hdd setup

I have mostly old games or 2d/indie games on my hdd

and I have some installers on my boot drive

because ill probably keep the same windows install in my new pc

and I can use that to install games without them taking hours to download when I switch

[dense oak]

idk what I did

but it just let me uninstall edge from settings and I took my oportunity lol

[river harbor]

🛐 🛐

edge is so bad

I was gonna give it a chance this new install because I was lazy

[latent pasture]

edge is just chrome now lol

[river harbor]

with bing

I switched to Google searcg

it switched to Bing again

[latent pasture]

you probably did it incorrectly cuz mine goes straight to google

whos reacting 3x per bruh

[river harbor]

some bot

[latent pasture]

oh sht is mod hello

[river harbor]

well idk, I switched the search engine to Google and it worked for a day or w

then it went back to bing

maybe I added an account and it desynced the settings or some shit

[latent pasture]

but yeah since edge switched to chrome its mostly just windows colored chrome
i even download extensions straight from chromestore not the edge addon one

[formal sonnet]

Same here. I use Chrome at home, but stuck with Edge at work because we're an M365 shop. Changed the search engine to Google within a week, only because I find Bing's results less useful. This has stuck for months.

[river harbor]

I dont know but Bing is horrid

[nimble frigate]

Well it’s been running for like 12 hrs now and it’s still testing stuff 😭, no crashes yet tho

[trim idol]

A girl can dream

[serene pumice]

I tried to power up myself as a kiddo, by holding a cut-off power cord in my hard & connecting it to the wall Socket

[rigid fjord]

a guy could dream also

[heady briar]

can anyone tell me where the last few cables to my pc goes I got like most of them I can show SS

[trim idol]

You're unlikely to need all of them

[heady briar]

so should I just turn it on

[trim idol]

You'll probably have two to the motherboard and 2-3 to the gpu

[trim idol]

No idea, as I don't know what you plugged in

[heady briar]

Let me show

[trim idol]

Not bad 🙂

[plush wren]

phooey

[latent pasture]

is that after undervolt

[heady briar]

I plugged in all the case wires to the motherboard but ik I need some more cables going to the power supply

[hoary tree]

A slight overclock

5.5ghz on performance cores and 4.4 on the efficiency cores

[heady briar]

Just don’t even know what ones I need or don’t

To bad so sad

[latent pasture]

😭 it cant be oc bc thats what reviews show 14600k does stock

[hoary tree]

My 14600kf does around 23000 stock

As I said, its a pretty small overclock with a VERY inadequate cooling solution

It thermal throttled throughout the entire run lol

[brave brook]

are you in EU ?

In the European Economic Area (EEA), users can now uninstall Microsoft Edge due to compliance with the Digital Markets Act (DMA). Microsoft has enabled users to uninstall Edge, as well as Bing and OneDrive, as part of a broader update to Windows 11 to comply with the DMA.

[dull kestrel]

👍

[dense oak]

The laptop is from the US but I am in europe

[brave brook]

there is your answer then

[dense oak]

I changed the region to Ireland i think that's what made it work

[viscid helm]

hmmm

[dense oak]

get a mac mini with student discount for 500$ instead

[brave brook]

unless he needs x64

[dense oak]

he'll have 250$ left and parallels thing is 100$ :)

oh wait why did i think it was a one time purchase

[viscid helm]

I'm thinking of getting the lightest and most affordable mini PC for editing 1080p vertical videos with low GPU effects and transitions

while being new and supporting adobe apps

any suggestions?

[dense oak]

an iphone and capcut

[viscid helm]

not good for office

[dense oak]

not sure if adobe works on macs well

[viscid helm]

what do you mean macs

[nimble frigate]

Chat how long do I have to run corecycler for stability 😭😭😭, it’s been running for 14 hrs, I wanna play

[meager isle]

Yall so I'm new to pc building and lwk don't know what all pc parts to get so could I get a bit of help and tell me what parts I need

[dense oak]

okay google says MacOS supports adobe software now

[dense oak]

Mac Mini apple stuff

[viscid helm]

it always did

[viscid helm]

ah I see, it didnt' use to>?

[dense oak]

like 5 years ago I remember it didnt

go for a mac mini with student discount, they dont check if u a student

[nimble frigate]

Please help

[meager isle]

It be like dat

[viscid helm]

I'll go through this first https://helpx.adobe.com/download-install/apps/system-requirements/apps-compatible-macos.html

[meager isle]

Appreciate da help fr

[viscid helm]

but for the work we're going to do, even version 2018 is enough

just any premiere pro works

[dense oak]

um do you have paid adobe stuff or do u plan to 🏴‍☠️

idk howw 🏴‍☠️ works on macs

[viscid helm]

I have a paid account and if I'm not wrong, it can be signed up in 2 devices while being open on one

each app being opened on one

this also sounds good

2 active per account

[dense oak]

nice

[dense oak]

btw it has 256gb of storage, if you want 512 youll need to pay 200$ extra idk how much does all adobe software you want take up but for data you should get an external drive

It has a thunderbolt port so it can pretty much run any ssd at full speed

amazon basics high data transfer cable and some enclosure should be 20-30$ and then an ssd will be around 100$

[random gyro]

will deleting bitdefender help fix pc lag on low spec machine

[dense oak]

uninstall it and enable windows defender

in windows settings

[random gyro]

will it help with my lag though

[shrewd spoke]

Thoughts on buying a switch 1/switch oled right now. they are insanely cheap since the launch of the switch 2. On Facebook there's consoles, extra joysticks and games all for 150-200 aud, 250-300 for the oled

[dense oak]

it might help a little bit :)

Windows Defender offers best performance out of all anti viruses

^last time I checked

[random gyro]

pc security channel says kaspersky is the best

but i dont want russian owned software on my pc

[dense oak]

best for performance or hunting down malwawre?

[random gyro]

malware detection

[dense oak]

Windows defender is just fine

[iron glen]

❌

[dense oak]

welp idk what you do with your pc brownie

[iron glen]

i make a folder that the defender is supposed to ignore, it still defends it 😡

[dense oak]

what's in that folder

[iron glen]

malware?

[random gyro]

my firewall is at 2%

my firewall is nearly broken

[novel aurora]

somehow got mystery machine with my p14s gen 2 on steel nomad

we dont talk about that double digit score with vulkan

[random gyro]

Fortify the defences

[iron glen]

pouring water on your firewall

[random gyro]

a file i put on virsuttoal got 30 detections

(jk)

highest i had for a file was 14, but it was a macro

[iron glen]

uhuh

[random gyro]

🤨

send me it

[iron glen]

no?

[random gyro]

( dont)

i was joking 😭

[dense oak]

what does this even mean lol

[random gyro]

idk some random dude told me my firewall is at 2%

who called

[dense oak]

he called u on your mobile?

[random gyro]

yes

it was probably a scam, but it funny

[dense oak]

did he happen to have an indian accent?

[random gyro]

yes

[dense oak]

[random gyro]

he wanted to install 'webroot' or something

[dense oak]

I can't tell if you're trolling

[random gyro]

im not

i genuinely did get a call like that

i think it was just some affiliate thing

cus webroot isnt a virus

[viscid helm]

yes we'd use a NAS for all office, so the internal would be only for installing apps.

[dense oak]

just chekc if 256gb is enough for all aps u want to install

[viscid helm]

512 sounds better, I typically end up regretting this one,

when I thought 500GB is enough for my current PC, I then realized I needed 1TB and upgraded in less than a year.