tech-chat-1

[azure topaz]

cause the x16 slot is below the x4 slot

so its lower than it should be

[tidal geyser]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[agile stag]

you can fit a full size gpu in one too i bet if you put your mind to it

[tidal geyser]

I KNOW I HAVE 3 of THOSE kinda computers AAAAA

[tidal geyser]

you can fit a lot of things in a lot of places with a saw

[agile stag]

mmhm you really can

and a drill

[little siren]

i was thinking about modding Sparkle Intel Arc A380 GENIE Low Profile to fit in it

[tidal geyser]

https://yestonstore.com/products/yeston-rtx-3050-6gb-gddr6-gaming-graphics-card

[agile stag]

h

[tidal geyser]

why the flipping flopping flippers are you not going for the SINGLE SLOT LP 3050 with DLSS

[agile stag]

why are you gonna mod a gpu if you cant tell if one will even fit in your case

[tidal geyser]

you have the budget for it too

[agile stag]

this isnt a movie like damn

[tidal geyser]

on the website

[agile stag]

boring i prefer keeping the sides

[little siren]

last time i bought from yeston it came broken

[tidal geyser]

good thing that is the point of a warranty

[agile stag]

sim what if you were getting ragebaited,,,

[little siren]

i returned it bru

[tidal geyser]

so yes you used the warranty

[agile stag]

youve burned so much time

[tidal geyser]

idc my time is not worth much

[little siren]

ok fine ill buy the 3050 again

[agile stag]

i took a 20 minute break and came back and you guys are still at it when like uh a real person would just take the advice and leave

[agile stag]

yeah but theres better places to spend it like uh not this server

[tidal geyser]

most of my day is just waiting, i spent fkn all day now on and off fortnite won like 15 times

[agile stag]

the dankpods server is pretty techy without the pain

[tidal geyser]

meh

[agile stag]

my days vary but i get up to stuff sometimes

but every time i come here it feels like a mistake

and every time it half is like damn look at this place

its insane idk

[little siren]

bru ill just buy the card and see

[tidal geyser]

i really need to start cataloging everything i get in and out

[agile stag]

in and out of what

[hexed tapir]

But it's thin enough!

[azure topaz]

this card costs as much as telling the guy to buy a ifferent computer

[tidal geyser]

only needs a thing hole in the case

[azure topaz]

if i knew the solution was this easy i wouldve told him to buy a new computer

he already has a 3050 why should he buy another instead of just buying an MT office pc

[agile stag]

he cANNOT cut a hole in his case

[tidal geyser]

buuuuuuu

[agile stag]

didnt he buy one and not return it so hes gonna buy another identical one or something

[azure topaz]

buying a 2nd, more expensive 3050 in this situation is stupid

[tidal geyser]

welp its the best card that fits his needs

[azure topaz]

or buy a second computer for 80$

[tidal geyser]

that too

[azure topaz]

that fits the old 3050

for less money.. and is probably faster

[hexed tapir]

Card board side panel

[tidal geyser]

what if he does what i do and put the puter in his backpack

[azure topaz]

why is he doing it this way

you coulda just bought a used steamdeck

[agile stag]

do you think he can get a box

anways ive got things to do i should go

[hexed tapir]

Bye babe

[agile stag]

this is insane this has gone on for over 30 mins

[hexed tapir]

I'm stuck at work

[tidal geyser]

im stuck at being lazy needing to install windows on a pc

i should have already been done if i was not on here

its good iroh

yay

[grizzled frost]

don’t forget some electrical tape or kapton tape on the back of the gpu to make sure it doesn’t short out

[azure topaz]

or short it out on purpose

[tidal geyser]

im looking at yestons site and my god a lot of anime girls

wut

[grizzled frost]

that’s like their whole brand, is “cute” stuff

[tidal geyser]

well yea

[tidal geyser]

well

[grizzled frost]

i wish i could see these supposedly amazing pictures

but work wifi politely declines

[tidal geyser]

9060 xt

[tidal geyser]

no there is nothing that is the joke

[tidal geyser]

this is just a guy

[azure topaz]

damn thats sad

slow or is it like garbage

[tidal geyser]

but this is yeston

anime girls for days

[grizzled frost]

i would do a speed test, but it would probably take 4-5m to load

[azure topaz]

lmao

i use data on my phone but work internet isnt ttoo slow

670 mbit

[grizzled frost]

cellular is even worse, the whole building is cinderblock and steel

[azure topaz]

oof im in basically a house

[grizzled frost]

two layers of cinderblock and steel in the case of the break room

[azure topaz]

im almost positive this was a house before it was a company

[tidal geyser]

yeston review their own gpus

[azure topaz]

fire

[grizzled frost]

do they make 12vhpwr gpus?

[azure topaz]

they may

[grizzled frost]

if so, it’s literally fire

[plush wren]

Hi

[grizzled frost]

Hi

[azure topaz]

amds implement should be chillin if it makes the card shut off if its not plugged in proper

[gloomy sleet]

nuh uh

[grizzled frost]

How do they test that though

[tidal geyser]

best card is 4080/5070 ti so yes possible but hard

[azure topaz]

cut some cables on the card while its running

hope it turns off

[gloomy sleet]

still have no clue how my wifi on my pc just stopped working at all

[grizzled frost]

i meant how do the measure whether or not the cable is plugged in fully

[azure topaz]

thats not for me to find out is it

[grizzled frost]

burden is on the messenger

[azure topaz]

NUHUH

[grizzled frost]

mhm

[plush wren]

What happens when its not properly plugged in

[azure topaz]

idk make it so it doesnt go into one big thing of ground to see if its plugged in and check if each gnd pin is properly grounded

[tidal geyser]

vivala resistance

[azure topaz]

that would at least cover half the connector which is good enough

[azure topaz]

AMD will not ever do this

they simply guess

[tidal geyser]

at least they have not done a fire yet

[azure topaz]

the core tells it how much power its drawing and i think they literally guess everything else

thats how they did it in the rx 500 days

AMD wont use shunts to measure power

[tidal geyser]

does nvidia do it

[azure topaz]

yes two

well sometimes its more but i think its like 2 or 3 shunts per card

[tidal geyser]

why dem make de fireino?

[azure topaz]

those dont cause the fires thats just how nvidia measures power across the connector

if they continued to treat the 12 pin like it really was just 3 8 pins and it wouldnt have issues

blue circle is shunt

i have no idea where the pcie shunt is on 50 series nvidia cards

[tidal geyser]

do they even draw power from pcie anymore

[azure topaz]

fuck no

[azure topaz]

yes but they do it as little as they can iirc

while i think amd is actually the opposite

[tidal geyser]

not even the 5090

[azure topaz]

like only 30 or 40w

[tidal geyser]

i mean rtx 5000

[azure topaz]

while im p sure my 7800xt at max load will max out the pcie slot wattage

[tidal geyser]

but yea i do not see em do much

[plush wren]

q

[tidal geyser]

if i made a gpu i would way rather take from pcie then cable

as i trust the motherboard spec more then the pcie cable spec

[azure topaz]

id rather take from cable if my card was known to spike

[azure topaz]

i believe that a pcie slot really cant do much more than 75w and i dont want to find out

[tidal geyser]

it can

[azure topaz]

burning a motherboard alive thru the traces sounds kinda crazy

[tidal geyser]

there is a reason why motherboards now come with a pcie thingy on it

its meat for 150w draw from pcie slot

[azure topaz]

my 3080 i think pulled like 120w thru the slot during furmark and i didnt like that

[azure topaz]

i think its just meant for marketing and for other slots

[tidal geyser]

its fineeeeeeeee

[tidal geyser]

nope

[agile topaz]

Well they're saying 1080p 175 fps on things like Doom TDA on high, how would the 9070XT handle that with frame gen + upscaling if need be

[azure topaz]

you were on google first why did you come to me

[tidal geyser]

1080p on a 7900 xtx XD

[azure topaz]

you have a 1440p monitor dont you 😭

[agile topaz]

Yeah I think 7900XTX is bad for the price

[azure topaz]

yes

[azure topaz]

dont you have the gn10 i am going to buy 💀

[agile topaz]

No this is another guy wanting to know if they can even hit that on 1080p with a 9070XT, I swear they can

[azure topaz]

yes

[agile topaz]

Yes I do, it's excellent

[azure topaz]

sim look at all the shunts i did on my 308

[winged eagle]

good or bad idea

[trim gyro]

probably a bad idea

[azure topaz]

+1 more for the pcie slot

[winged eagle]

the reviews seem good but its cheap so im not too sure

[azure topaz]

CiT isnt an unknown brand but is it a good unit

[winged eagle]

idk much about psu's and its not on the psu tier list

its gonna power a 7800x3d and 6750xt

[tidal geyser]

and you cant afford a ok PSU?

[true stirrup]

Bomb

[winged eagle]

im just asking if its good

why should i overspend for a psu

[azure topaz]

i dont think its good looks kinda like shit

[tidal geyser]

so it does not kill EVERYTHING?

[azure topaz]

because it powers your system and if it dies its responsible for saving it

[tidal geyser]

a 40£ psu for a what 2000£ pc

[azure topaz]

and cheap ones almost always fail

[true stirrup]

Just get the A650BN it's usually like 50-60 bucks

[winged eagle]

£1000

[azure topaz]

a psu has two primary functions and thats to turn on and to save the computer

[tidal geyser]

the cpu alone is half that

[winged eagle]

i need 700w

[azure topaz]

no you do not

[tidal geyser]

no you do not

[true stirrup]

You really don't

[winged eagle]

350 i payed for it

[azure topaz]

the 650bn is more than enough

[winged eagle]

est. wattage is 500w

[tidal geyser]

gib pcpartpicker

[azure topaz]

?????

[true stirrup]

My PC pulls much more than yours and the A650BN is completely fine

[azure topaz]

so logic is dead and this is whats left. huh.

[tidal geyser]

so you have 150w headroom??

[azure topaz]

its less than 650w. not even close. why would you need 700w

you know theyre rated to do exactly what they say on the box most of the time right

thats why you buy a good power supply

[tidal geyser]

since that is what my fav tecky tuber ztt said

[winged eagle]

1 sec

[azure topaz]

so when you draw 650w on your 650w power supply, it wont do anything

[azure topaz]

and itll just work

[winged eagle]

dont mind the psu in that

[azure topaz]

the gm 800 is the terrible

[winged eagle]

yh i know im not getting it

[true stirrup]

A650BN would do just fine in there

[azure topaz]

b850 eagle wifi6 is the same price and newer

[tidal geyser]

the PSU choices

[azure topaz]

a650bn should be about 70$ or something

[winged eagle]

im gonna get elite

[tidal geyser]

70$ are you mad

its more like 55$ most ofthe time

[azure topaz]

idk i dont like buying new power supplies

[azure topaz]

works

[true stirrup]

It's usually between 50 and 60 bucks

[azure topaz]

my 1300g2 was 64$

[crude nymph]

Wsp yall

I want to upgrade my rx6800xt to something like a rx7900xtx or rx9070xt. Which one should I go for?

[azure topaz]

the fact anyone willingly wants to pay 55$ for a mid tier 650w makes me sad

[tidal geyser]

you also know how to not buy a bomb

[winged eagle]

the a650bn is 50 quid

[azure topaz]

yeah thats a good price

[winged eagle]

nice one

[tidal geyser]

the modern one

[winged eagle]

wait so would u guys say that ram mobo and cpu combo is good

[azure topaz]

yes its the cheapest

[winged eagle]

elite ax and klevv bolt cl30

[azure topaz]

are you using US pc part picker when you live in the UK

[winged eagle]

idk

[azure topaz]

before you do anything else:

[plush wren]

Flopper helping People

[crude nymph]

Even if the 7900xtx is cheaper?

[versed creek]

This motherfucker keeps corrupting usb drives every time i try to write an installer image. Windows defender keeps cancelling the flash operation. Ive lost like 96gb worth ir flash drives so far due to windows defender being incredibly stupid. Can anyone help?

[azure topaz]

bro what do you mean

[winged eagle]

i just typed in pc part picker

[azure topaz]

is it a us dollar or is it a fuckin pound symbol

[winged eagle]

idc about price im just putting it in

[azure topaz]

is it a us dollar or your actual currency

[crude nymph]

Step 1: dont use windows defender

[azure topaz]

bro why would you not care about price. thats the entire poiunt of using pc part picker

[winged eagle]

i used it just to check wattage

[azure topaz]

so you can find the cheapest deals for your respective shopping sites

[winged eagle]

i just need the 7800x3d to work

[tawdry coyote]

fellas i got given one of these, idk the specs other than it would've sold for £1000, how good is it?https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/759755005975592963/1384660202023944202/Dell-EMC-PowerEdge-Tower-Server-T640-full-res-white-bg-800-70.webp?ex=68533ccd&is=6851eb4d&hm=fbde890de874f1f1951609418dbee11b2d0522e4593fd9b651486a43e63a5c86&=&format=webp

[winged eagle]

like full performace

[azure topaz]

do you not care how your computer ends up despite paying 1000$ for it

[raw plover]

Are there any apps like vlc but with a Netflix type interphase

[versed creek]

Not even remotely helpful right now. I want to restore my usb drives to working. Windows cant complete the format on them

[winged eagle]

wdym

[azure topaz]

"i just want it to work"

no you dont. you want a good experience and not a piece of shit

[winged eagle]

yeah i need it to run fortnite on stable fps

240 stable

[azure topaz]

that fits under "good experience and not a piece of shit"

[crude nymph]

It was a joke
I don't know how to help because I normally use Linux to format and fix those types of stuff

[azure topaz]

care about the computer build thats all im saying

because in the future when you complain and youre the one who picked the parts

[azure topaz]

whos fault is that

[winged eagle]

ill show u what my pc looks like now

[versed creek]

Well the whole point is that im creating a linux installer. But windows keeps eating my usb drives. I cant even format them

How tf do i fix these usb drives

[crude nymph]

Try to format them in like a fat32 or something

[tidal geyser]

for the love of god why do people live in flith

[azure topaz]

can i try and logic you here

[tidal geyser]

how can you allow that to happen to a computer

[winged eagle]

bagagaga

[brave orbit]

Excuse me???

[tidal geyser]

where is the side panel

[winged eagle]

its just my pc like that cos i cba to clean it

[azure topaz]

like will you accept my logic

[winged eagle]

i lost it

[crude nymph]

Lmaooo

[brave orbit]

Microsoft my pc isn't your edge server

[crude nymph]

How bro

[tidal geyser]

lost how????

[winged eagle]

thats why its so dusty cos theres no side panel

[azure topaz]

what is the point of the fan on the bottom of the case

[tidal geyser]

you are even missing this thingy

[tidal geyser]

that fan is doing NOTHING****

[winged eagle]

which thingy

[azure topaz]

try using diskpart but for the usb drives

[agile topaz]

I think this would be a great build for them seeing as they wouldnt want an especially large case, and I know the cpu/mobo can be this price during sales and on Ali express, how would this do for them for 1440p 175hz gaming on things like BO6 and DOOM TDA?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sYsk3w

[versed creek]

Good idea

[winged eagle]

its not even screwed in 🤣

[azure topaz]

samme process as yesterday

[azure topaz]

thank u love u too

[tidal geyser]

that is not the issue

[crude nymph]

I see
You are plugging them into the motherboard and not into an adapter/extension?

[winged eagle]

its a duddy build i know

[tidal geyser]

go 6000MT ram

[versed creek]

I tried both makes no diff

[tidal geyser]

and sn5000 or something for ssd

[crude nymph]

You can try to format it with your phone

[agile topaz]

Fair enough, 6400MT probably isn't even significant

[tidal geyser]

not the real issue

the real issue is more so uhm its a 50/50 if your IMC is gonna do 6400MT

[crude nymph]

As an alternative to this average windows bs

[azure topaz]

iuts because we dont want to teach you

[winged eagle]

wait so what do u mean by this

[tidal geyser]

and on a 7500f i would imagine its not gonna be happy

[azure topaz]

you want yout computer to function well

[winged eagle]

the parts are good no?

[agile topaz]

Ah, fair enough thanks

[azure topaz]

the power supply wasnt 💀

[tidal geyser]

what are your current specs

[winged eagle]

btw should i get aio or air cooled cos i found a sick aircooler

[tidal geyser]

air

[azure topaz]

its your computer shawty

[winged eagle]

i7 9700f 6750xt

[winged eagle]

perfect

[tidal geyser]

i have a 3GHz 9700f

floppy knows about it

[tidal geyser]

i should send 1v into the IMC

[azure topaz]

1v isnt a lot you mean 1.4

[tidal geyser]

i mean voltage offset +1v

[winged eagle]

its so bad on fortnite im getting like 60-80fps max in endgame in scrims

[azure topaz]

oh lmao

[winged eagle]

can barely get 144 stable in creative 1v1s

[brave orbit]

no seriously though
https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1384662537345302558

[tidal geyser]

omfg

[versed creek]

Yeah diskpart isnt doing anything

[crude nymph]

upHere brand is wild

Can't wait for downThere

[winged eagle]

is it shit?

[azure topaz]

realistically its a hunk of metal how is it going to be shit

[tidal geyser]

his pc looks like it was in a warzone and he wonders why its bad

[crude nymph]

No idea

[tidal geyser]

https://youtu.be/1viuQj2Hw-4

[winged eagle]

its been like this since the start tbh

[crude nymph]

Seems like some deepcool knockoff

[azure topaz]

diagnosis user error

[tidal geyser]

i got 200 fps on medium

[tidal geyser]

i tested a 9700k myself and its doing WELL

i got about 180 fps

its not happy

[crude nymph]

Use device manager to see if it's even recognizing it

[versed creek]

Im really pissed these two drives are completely fucked now (i know the right one looks jank ive had it for a long time)

[azure topaz]

if its hanging somewhere, unplug your sata drive that was the culprit yesterday and see if it stops

[winged eagle]

thats the same as me and thats a bot lobby in pro scrims its unplayable cos theres way too much shit going on and im on 60-80fps and everyone else is on 200-240 stable

[azure topaz]

i seriously think your drive is still dying 😭

or somehting is up somewhere in your computer

[tidal geyser]

i dono about that

[versed creek]

Its not hanging up its just that windows ended the flashing process halfway through. Both drives have a half flashed corrupt kali installer

[azure topaz]

id backup important stuff and just wipe errythang

[winged eagle]

ill show you

[azure topaz]

no other device to make the bootable on?

[winged eagle]

but the worst part is the stability its not stable at all

[azure topaz]

but still do as suggested it might work

[versed creek]

Well there is but windows is just gonna eat another drive

[azure topaz]

like a second computer

[tidal geyser]

update the bios and turn on rebar

[tidal geyser]

just use ventoy or rufus

[versed creek]

It does recognize the usb in device manager and diskpart is able to show the correct capacity

[versed creek]

Is that going to fix my windows defender issue

[winged eagle]

this mobo cant update bios

[azure topaz]

.

[crude nymph]

Hmm, just wipe it clean and start again?

[tidal geyser]

eh?????????

[azure topaz]

that and doing the unplug fix but i figure youre tyryin that

[winged eagle]

look top right

[tidal geyser]

that creative you nubbin

[versed creek]

It seems like its fonna be a lot more complicated

[winged eagle]

yeah i know but u can see im getting not bad fps

[crude nymph]

Unplug restart and try again fixes 80% of issues lmao

[tidal geyser]

i was in the middle of a city

[tidal geyser]

no shit

[azure topaz]

for context his computer stopped booting yesterday and unplugging a sata drive fixed it

so i think that drive is still at fault

[crude nymph]

I mean it's bad that you dont have availible another pc

[tidal geyser]

you are like the i5 4th gen guy i keep laughing about who got like 500 fps but was looking up in the air in creative

[winged eagle]

yeah exactly but its not performing good in actual scrims thats my problem

[tidal geyser]

SO UPDATE THE BIOS

[versed creek]

I formatted it and it boots okay now

[azure topaz]

and also has fucked his windows or windows got fucked somewhere else

[winged eagle]

i cant

[tidal geyser]

AND TURN ON REBAR

[winged eagle]

this mobo is shit

[crude nymph]

Hmm maybe if the flash hes trying to install is corrupted from the start

[tidal geyser]

EVERY SINGLE MOTHERBOARD can

[plush wren]

https://tenor.com/view/demented-enderman-minecraft-dancing-gif-16370083

[winged eagle]

whats rebar

[azure topaz]

yeah but we know that at least its something to be suspicious of

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/encadenado-cage-steelwire-gif-13378949

[versed creek]

Yeah wtf is rebar

[azure topaz]

resizable bar

[crude nymph]

Windows being fucked isn't that much of an issue, it just does it itself after some time

[azure topaz]

not if your computer is stable

[versed creek]

Sure but theres nothing even on the drive its not even polling the drive right now its just sitting empty and formatted

[tidal geyser]

youtube is high bit rate

[crude nymph]

Just remove any formatting on the drive

[azure topaz]

i mean sometimes but if you arent doing things that would break windows you probably wont break windows

[tidal geyser]

so easy to see everything

[winged eagle]

look top right

[azure topaz]

yes but you also dont expect a drive with things on it to stop a system from booting completely either

[crude nymph]

Don't underestimate the power of windows updates

[versed creek]

How exactly

[winged eagle]

wrong video sorry

[crude nymph]

Using diskmanager

[versed creek]

Well it had an os on it

[tidal geyser]

also music

[azure topaz]

that also stopped you from completely goin in to bios? 😭

thats not supposed to happen

[winged eagle]

wrong video 🤣

[crude nymph]

Keep in mind removing formatting wipes the drive clean

[tidal geyser]

get rekt

[crude nymph]

Wild

[azure topaz]

bad ram but you didnt die cause yo frames

if his board has ram timings that would help

[tidal geyser]

get spotify premium

[winged eagle]

look at the fps and theres not even much going on

[azure topaz]

i agree

[limpid ivy]

Me messing with registry editor. Fun enough I learned the do and don'ts around it.

[azure topaz]

💀

[tidal geyser]

so update the bios and turn on xmp and rebar

[winged eagle]

xmp is on already

[tidal geyser]

update the bios

[azure topaz]

fortnite performs liek shit on all xmps gonna be real

[tidal geyser]

mine good

[azure topaz]

nuhuh nuhuh

[limpid ivy]

Also one of my relatives considered buying my gpu until I told him the stuff I did to it lol. System crashed twice last night.

[tidal geyser]

youtube has no issues

[winged eagle]

its just not good enough for me but what i wanna know is if i made a good choice with parts

[versed creek]

Alright i figured it out. The usb is restored. However i still need a way to flash my kali iso without windows killing the process

[tidal geyser]

mate i just showed you its possible to get like 2x the fps

[versed creek]

I only have windows machines

[crude nymph]

Use another flasher

[azure topaz]

rufus? ventoy? balena etcher

fav is rufus then ventoy

[tidal geyser]

last one using already

[azure topaz]

balena is always a last case cause it sucks

[tidal geyser]

i already said those

[tidal geyser]

ngl i mostly just use raspberry pi imager

[versed creek]

I dont see how that will stop windows defender from interfering with the format. It seems like windows cut the process after balena etcher wiped the formatting on the drive. Something about protected folder access. Every etcher is going to do the same thing before flashing which will trigger the same windows defender access issue

[tidal geyser]

etcher is shit

[azure topaz]

etcher is shit

[crude nymph]

Stop defender from interfering with usb

Not stop it completely just stop it from checking usb

[tidal geyser]

just stop the world

[azure topaz]

or stop it and turn it back on when youre done lol

[versed creek]

God thats annoying

[crude nymph]

Yeah that works but idk if he's comfortable with that

[azure topaz]

turning off your av for 30 minutes? 😭

[azure topaz]

going to be real i simply just dont see how

[distant frigate]

https://fixupx.com/techlife32/status/1935105690244157777?s=46

Tech life Channel (@Techlife32)

$TMUS up on the tower now finishing up. Hopefully done soon so I can test.

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FixupX · Jun 17, 2025, 10:42 PM

Another N41 upgrade. Nice.

[versed creek]

Fair enough

[winged eagle]

is that good now?

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-sea-creature-sea-creature-cat-silly-silly-cat-gif-5111948485873411698

[versed creek]

You probably can spend less on the cpu man

[azure topaz]

its like idk maybe 4 clicks yeah its a lil stupid that you have to but the difference between working computer and not working computer to me is larger than the effort i have to put in for those 4 clicks

[azure topaz]

bro stands corrected

[winged eagle]

too late

[azure topaz]

it looks good yeah

[limpid dune]

I love those boxes, I got the worst R9 X3D of all time but I still get the cool ahh box lmao

[tidal geyser]

how do you know it works

[winged eagle]

all the pros are using it so may aswell and its a beast ill have no problem running 240 stable on that

[crude nymph]

I have my r7 5800x3d box its cool too

[tidal geyser]

the 9800X3D is better by a lot

[azure topaz]

😭 why not research why the pros are using it im just gonna say

rather than research what the pros are using 😭

[tidal geyser]

why not what

[winged eagle]

all the videos i watched say theres not a crazy difference

[versed creek]

What im mad about is having to do that every time i want to use my computer for simple tasks. I want to be able to configure it. Every time windows defender does something it notified me and when i click on the notification (in hopes that i can stop it from doing that in the future) windows defender gets all opaque and refuses to show defender history. Essentially its just gaslighting me and telling me it hasnt taken any action when it clealry did

[tidal geyser]

cache on top vs bottom?

[limpid dune]

the 9800X3D is significantly faster, but I mean, the 7800X3D is still goated as hell

[tidal geyser]

have you tried using anything other then etcher?

[versed creek]

Im downloading rufus rn

[azure topaz]

seriously i just think this is cause of etcher gonna be real 😭

[winged eagle]

fps difference on fortnite is not crazy

[azure topaz]

i think i have a 1/5 success rate with etcher

its not good software 😭

[winged eagle]

from what i heard

[versed creek]

Maybe. But windows defender does shit like this all the time for no reason and with no obvious way to fix it short of disabling the entire av

[crude nymph]

Windows defender in a nutshell

[azure topaz]

ive never had issues with defender

[tidal geyser]

etcher shit

[azure topaz]

and if i do i dont have a problem cause i understand my computer just wants to keep safe 😭

[tidal geyser]

defender never once had issues for me

[cedar hollow]

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20250611299049/en/PCI-SIG-Releases-PCIe-7.0-Specification-to-Support-the-Bandwidth-Demands-of-Artificial-Intelligence-at-128.0-GTs-Transfer-Rates

[versed creek]

Oh my god ive had sooooo many issues with it since moving to win 11

[crude nymph]

Same actually but I know its shit

[azure topaz]

what the fuck do you guys do on your computer this is baffling to me

[tidal geyser]

tf you do make cheats??

[gentle kestrel]

defender gets mad at github sometimes but it’s not a frequent occurrence

[azure topaz]

literally

[crude nymph]

But i do use eset too so

[gentle kestrel]

pirated software probably gets flagged as malware

[versed creek]

Windows defender hassles me every time i launch a game

[tidal geyser]

like the only time i have had issues is when i was mining crypto

[tidal geyser]

wat

[azure topaz]

like understand if the things you do to your computer make defender mad that its probably because theres a reason for whats happening 😭

[tidal geyser]

maybe debloat script or some shit

[tidal geyser]

what does it say

[crude nymph]

Maybe he's turned up the security settings to lockdown mode or something idk

[tidal geyser]

wat

[crude nymph]

I have no idea what he did

[gentle kestrel]

you can make uac prompt basically constantly but that isn’t tied to defender or anything

[versed creek]

Everything makes defender mad idk what settings windows setup for defender when i installed windows 11 but it freaks out every time a multiplayer game lanches

[tidal geyser]

mad how

[crude nymph]

Firewall?

[gentle kestrel]

do you mean the firewall prompt that’s one time per app?

[azure topaz]

skull and crossbones

[versed creek]

Yes yes the firewall prompt opens every single time.

It dosent save my selection

[gentle kestrel]

on what game

[tidal geyser]

THAT IS NOT DEFENDER

[crude nymph]

Then stop the firewall

[fallen sky]

I have an incredible idea.. whenever I’m bored I’ll order parts to make a PC then benchmark and take it apart then refund the parts and the cycle continues

[versed creek]

Any multiplayer

[crude nymph]

Yup

[azure topaz]

(firewall is kinda part of defender)

[tidal geyser]

end yourself

[versed creek]

Wtf is it then

[azure topaz]

(its literally called windows defender firewall)

[gentle kestrel]

that is not a great idea

[fallen sky]

I just sold my pc 💔

[tidal geyser]

how many electronic things do you think i have returned in my entire life

[versed creek]

I am not disabling my firewall

[tidal geyser]

yes

[fallen sky]

0

[gentle kestrel]

is your network set to public instead of private

[azure topaz]

theres something up with the firewall rules somewhere

[tidal geyser]

yes

[gentle kestrel]

i'd assume it prompts on public since public networks aren't trusted

[fallen sky]

Good for you

[tidal geyser]

have you used a windows debloat script

[azure topaz]

i suggest you backup whats important and just reinstall rather than try to dig around for several hours to find the setting

[crude nymph]

If he doesn't have any other anti-virus/ network firewall then dont stop it

[versed creek]

I just want to make it permanently save my firewall settings instead of forgetting every time

[azure topaz]

this will fix it

[tidal geyser]

pleas never return anything you do not HAVE to

[crude nymph]

Probably

[versed creek]

No i havr not i would like to

[tidal geyser]

no you would not

[azure topaz]

no you do not

[gentle kestrel]

that is how you break windows

[fallen sky]

what’s the problem with that

[azure topaz]

indeed sir

[versed creek]

Oh i see

[tidal geyser]

you do kno what happens with a lot of returned goods and also how much is needed to do so

[versed creek]

The only debloating ive done is uninstalling the crap programs i dont use like onedrive and outlook and stuff like thay

[azure topaz]

just use windows. a local account, no one drive, and when you sign into a MS acc on the store, click MS apps only and not "OK" or "continue" on "USE MS APPS EVERYWHERE"

[fallen sky]

I mean.. they just resell the same parts 🤷

[azure topaz]

this is the key

windows wont break or do anything its not supposed to (probably) unless you broke it

[tidal geyser]

Every year returned products generate over 15 million metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions in the US alone - equivalent to the annual emissions of 3 million cars

[fallen sky]

Plop it back into the original box and there we go, good as new

[crude nymph]

Uninstalling Cortana (holy hell the autocorrect)

[versed creek]

Cortana and copilot

[azure topaz]

uninstalling cortana broke windows 10

[gentle kestrel]

just don't run 11 home and you're fine basically

[azure topaz]

cause cortana was search

[tidal geyser]

but hen has to be shipped back, tested if its not just thrown out

[fallen sky]

Dude sun is gonna explode in 4 billion years and you’re worried about that

[tidal geyser]

wat

[crude nymph]

Yes but I use office 365 so I can't not have it (I just dont enable it)

[versed creek]

I got rid of cortana on win 11 and the menu works okay

[tidal geyser]

you have heard of a rocket?

[fallen sky]

of course

[versed creek]

Nah i got rid of most of the consumer windows apps that come preinstalled

[azure topaz]

i dont to uch anything that could be apart of the os itself for real

so i keep cortana and all the crap

[tidal geyser]

you do not think in 4 billion years humans would have tried to use one

[gentle kestrel]

if it's removable in settings it's fair game to remove it

[azure topaz]

yes

[limpid dune]

y-yes? yes we're worried about messing up the earth??? we live here??? what

[crude nymph]

365 wasn't installed at first but I do use word excel PowerPoint daily

[gentle kestrel]

i wouldn't go about removing system apps though

[azure topaz]

but its not like my computer is slow. so uninstalling cortana isnt the make or break

[fallen sky]

What’s your point

[versed creek]

If removing windows data gathering points break the os that hard i may just move fully to linux

[azure topaz]

if uninstalling cortana is the make oir break for your computer to be usable, buy a new computer

[tidal geyser]

humans are going to be around after you die

[limpid dune]

"your honor, the sun is gonna explode in a billion years, so does it really matter if I killed 57 people?"

[versed creek]

I never use windows apps except for gaming

[fallen sky]

Yeah so I’ll live my life to the fullest

[azure topaz]

do whatever you want just dont blame windows for things that are of your own peril

[tidal geyser]

how old are you

[azure topaz]

or do i dont control you

but i will tell you if you were just being stupid and it wasnt windows fault at all

[crude nymph]

Well linux is the same

You can touch something and the whole os breaks

At least you can go and fix it (without any data loss), but it takes hours

[fallen sky]

18- I have a good 70 years left. Great longevity

maybe more than 70

My grandma is 98 👍

[crude nymph]

Reinstalling thr core is easy and stuff, also you have previous images so youll be fine most of the time

The only problem with linux for me is that Mc 365 doesn't work

[limpid dune]

"I have 70 years left" he doesn't know the fog is coming 😂

[azure topaz]

naw you got until tomorrow. see you then

[fallen sky]

Im chillin

[versed creek]

I mean im not going into the registry and deleting shit i mostly used windows own uninstaller and then BCU to remove stubborn shit and residue

[plush wren]

Drift

[tidal geyser]

if you live right you should be able to live to 130 or 150, and as how things are going you will REALLY see your own impact not just what others before you have done but what YOU have done

[tidal geyser]

what country are you in

[fallen sky]

Don’t worry about me worry about Taylor swifts fuckin plane 😭😭😭

[fallen sky]

take a guess.

[crude nymph]

That stubborn shit and residue may be something windows wants to have

[limpid dune]

IMO some distros are more reliable than Windows itself, I've never really had Mint die on me once, only minor confusions sometimes (eg. forgetting to unmount a USB before removing, or having to set a download as executable)

[plush wren]

Iceland

[tidal geyser]

force policy makers to take harder restrictions on planes then

[crude nymph]

Well if you dont thinker with it linux is 100times more stable than windows

[gentle kestrel]

if you don't mess with it windows isn't unstable

[crude nymph]

Noone said you have to upgrade the apps and stuff

[azure topaz]

if by dont tinker you also mean dont update on a fair few of oses

[gentle kestrel]

you don't get to 80% marketshare with a junk product

[fallen sky]

What’s your point again

[azure topaz]

which i feel like most users are going to update

[crude nymph]

Windows update magic is great

[azure topaz]

just out of habit

[tidal geyser]

if possible do not return shit i do not understand why you would ever need to return anything that works

[fallen sky]

To get my money back

[crude nymph]

Sometimes

Updating on a stable release will be stable

[tidal geyser]

but you saved up and spent so much time researching it

[azure topaz]

sometimes

[gentle kestrel]

i mean if it's in the return window and it isn't needed anymore im just gonna return it

instead of selling it at a loss

[fallen sky]

Researching what

[versed creek]

I mean generally yeah but BCU seemed pretty confident that the files labeled cortana belonged to the cortana app

[azure topaz]

sometimes you install something on linux and follow the docs and it still doesnt work

[plush wren]

gleeb

[versed creek]

That i have expirience with

[tidal geyser]

the thing you are buying?

[crude nymph]

I mean it depends on many factors why it didnt work

[tidal geyser]

you do not just go, o shiny on some 500$ thing and buy it

[gentle kestrel]

the ubuntu updater broke itself when i tried to hop from 22.04 to 24.04 or whatever and i ended up having to fix it by hand

[versed creek]

The only windows app i really want to uninstall now is microsoft edge but it seems futile

[azure topaz]

this is true for everything sire

[abstract wigeon]

90% of pc people do

[versed creek]

Ive mostly been able to hide microsoft edge away in the dark corners of windows files

[gentle kestrel]

why would you want to uninstall the systemwide web browser that like 90% of apps with webviews rely on

[azure topaz]

uninstalling edge is pretty useless

[fallen sky]

I don’t need to research. just gonna get parts I know are compatible and build then deconstruct then return

[crude nymph]

The sad part with linux is if you haven't updated from a long time and want to update to the latest it will break itself (90% of the time it happens to me)

[azure topaz]

it also really breaks search at that point

[versed creek]

Because all of the apps with webviews work fine with firefox

[night urchin]

I love

[tidal geyser]

you did see what happened to GN?

[versed creek]

At least the ones i use

[fallen sky]

Who’s goodnight

[tidal geyser]

ok yea no

mans really trying his hardest to not give a shit

[crude nymph]

Uninstalling edge ain't a good idea since windows loves it and it uses it for many stuff

[azure topaz]

yes

[gentle kestrel]

tbf it is hard to sit through a gn video

[abstract wigeon]

whats the point sorry

[tidal geyser]

windows NEEDs edge

[crude nymph]

Yes

[gentle kestrel]

unscripted go brrr

[azure topaz]

also seriously if youre debloating your computer cause its slow youve lost the plot

[tidal geyser]

i dono make some food while you do so

[azure topaz]

this more than likely wont help

[fallen sky]

To counter boredom, that’s the point

[versed creek]

Windows needs edge but i dont need windows needing it

[azure topaz]

then go to linux idk

[abstract wigeon]

edge is like that one jpeg of a coconut that tf2 cant boot without

[crude nymph]

If you have slow computer on windows install Linux so its fast again

[tidal geyser]

if you want windows search you do

[tidal geyser]

proven fake

[abstract wigeon]

what man

[versed creek]

My biggest hangup right now is gaming

[azure topaz]

what if the computer was never fast

[abstract wigeon]

and so is windows needing edge man thats the joke

[fallen sky]

how don’t you understand

[limpid dune]

the windows 11 corner button is a react component executed within a browser.

yep. we live in hell

[versed creek]

I dont use windows search i know my way around my file directory

[crude nymph]

Linux runs surprisingly well on potato pcs

[gentle kestrel]

if you're needing to strip the os to get chrome loading quick it might be time to just move foward with a new computer

[azure topaz]

yeah but if the computer wasnt fast in the first place "fast again" isnt right

stupid idiot get grammar'ed

[abstract wigeon]

youre still paying shipping and stuff and waiting multiple weeks for stuff to arrive and all

just get pc building simulator

[limpid dune]

^PC building simulator is fun as hell, I wish it got updated though

[fallen sky]

that’s fine. Amazon prime btw

[abstract wigeon]

bit wierd but you do you ig

[plush wren]

fuck cars

and carx

[crude nymph]

It will perform faster and it'll feel like its fast again

[gentle kestrel]

pretty react native isn't browser based

[tidal geyser]

it did?

[versed creek]

Games like pc building simulator and car mechanic simulator are extremely frustrating to me bevause i know in the back if my head i could just be working on an actual car or pc and the game sucks in comparison

[tidal geyser]

pc building simulator 2

[limpid dune]

shitass

[azure topaz]

if it was always slow theres now way it could feel fast again

because it was always slow

[crude nymph]

If it was always slow yes but if its slow because of age and stuff then it will feel fast again

[limpid dune]

I mean, CMS is perfect because cars are expensive...? I could technically work on an actual car but I'd need a garage and tools and everything, I'm perfectly happy playing CMD

[abstract wigeon]

my laptop ran super slow on windows but is completely usable on endeavouros

[tidal geyser]

and i would imagine in sim 3 we will need to extinguish the fires from the 12vhpwer cable

[crude nymph]

Old pcs get resurrected with linux

[abstract wigeon]

sim 3 is just handing rma's

[versed creek]

Whats the deal here? Do i have to disable tpm to run kali or something? Is it impossible to dual boot kali and win 11?

[abstract wigeon]

getting redirected between 6 companies because they all blame eachother for your 6090 melting

[gentle kestrel]

why are you installing kali on real hardware

[tidal geyser]

ok

[gentle kestrel]

debloating windows then installing a distro with a bunch of packages you have 0 use for

[limpid dune]

also PC building simulator only includes a small fraction of the actual CPUs and components that are real, ie. the OG PCBS only includes Intel 7th gen to 11th gen, and AMD 1000 to 5000, and it doesn't even include Xeon or X3D.

and PCBS2 only includes the 5800X3D, no other X3D chip... how do they make a "gaming computer building simulator" without adding the CPUs that make up MOST GAMING COMPUTERS?

I'm literally writing a discord bot game that is PCBS but it actually has a wide selection of hardware

[versed creek]

Im not replacing windows with kali

[tardy badger]

Been thinking of buying a laptop for portability , university and gaming, ive been thinking of getting a gigabyte aero 15 OLED (I7-10870H and 3070) or a M2 12GB. I feel like on mac theres nothing to play as not a lot of things support it but i really like the ecosystem and the UI, but i want to be able to play things whenever im like on a trip etc. what should i do?

[tidal geyser]

welp its 1:17am and i wanna sleep

[crude nymph]

I dualboot windows and Garda arch linux

Yall can shit on arch but Garda has everything in gui so you dont, but can and should use the command prompt

[versed creek]

I want to mess with it but vmware got bought out by broadcom and i dont want to make a fucking broadcom account

[crude nymph]

Its 2:17 here i have to get up at 6 I'm cooked

[gentle kestrel]

if the very clear warning on why it won't boot on a secure boot system wasn't clear enough i'd probably not bother with a pentesting distro

[limpid dune]

KVM time

[versed creek]

Ugh

[crude nymph]

Man secureboot is shit

[versed creek]

Well i still want linux is there a linux distro thag works with tpm so i can dual boot

[gentle kestrel]

yeah why would you want a trustable boot chain

[limpid dune]

all of them do...?

[gentle kestrel]

any distro works if you sign the bootloader or import the key

[crude nymph]

Just get mint or something

[versed creek]

Kali does not and kali is the distro i usually use

I should clarify i mean tpm 2.0 the windows 11 thing

[crude nymph]

I wonder how you are installing it cuz normally its not a problem

[versed creek]

Iso from the kali website

[crude nymph]

You have to have a usb and boot into it
Not into windows

[versed creek]

I am trying to create the usb to boot into

[limpid dune]

depending on the distro, it will either use TPM to secure its internal keyring, or it'll just... ignore the module. There's no such thing as "TPM incompatibility"

[versed creek]

Man i dont get whats going on here

[limpid dune]

OH as in, a linux distro that supports secure boot? that's outside of TPM, and usually it can be enabled in a BIOS thing

[versed creek]

I use kali to mess around with arduino stuff i just want to dual boot kali with windows 11

[limpid dune]

generally you can leave secure boot disabled, unless you want to play Valorant or something

[crude nymph]

Yes

[versed creek]

Fuck valorant

So essentially if i disable secure boot in bios i will be able to boot kali

[limpid dune]

yes

[crude nymph]

I mean even then idk if i have it on but I do dualboot and can and have played valorant with firends (3 years ago so could have changed)

[versed creek]

Thanks

[crude nymph]

Yes

[gentle kestrel]

garuda may sign grub shim so secure boot works

[limpid dune]

secure boot is just a BIOS function that checks the OS loader and makes sure it is signed by Microsoft. You can either disable it, or some BIOSes have a way you can add your Linux/GRUB signature to it, but that gets a bit fiddly

some motherboards have Ubuntu signatures baked in

[gentle kestrel]

it's not really fiddly at all

you sign a key and add those keys to your uefi interface

[versed creek]

I see. Thats dumb i dont need that

Is secure boot useful for anything consumer besides valorant

[limpid dune]

I don't think so, but yeah, Valorant insists you have it

[azure topaz]

this is true

[crude nymph]

Anticheats on popular games that i dont know enough about probably

[versed creek]

Valorant has its anti cheat into the kernel dosent it

[crude nymph]

Yes

[azure topaz]

depends on the game

[gentle kestrel]

with your own key you will only be able to boot things you trust but im gonna assume thats out of the scope here

[versed creek]

Again because vmware sucks now

[azure topaz]

more are requirng it now

[azure topaz]

so just use a different distro

one thats actually meant to be installed to bare metal

[limpid dune]

wigndows

[azure topaz]

and not one thats meant for fucking pen testing on the go

[gentle kestrel]

or just use the built in vm manager

[crude nymph]

Ik that is why im being broad

[azure topaz]

this is also true

[gentle kestrel]

the one with weakened security to allow for the tools to run too

[limpid dune]

technically, Windows 11 internally usss hyper-v to open 32-bit programs

[merry dagger]

Is it unlikely that my 13600K could undergo a degradation if it was in usage over a year without bios update, but was limited to 150w TDP, had -0.05v undervolt and had no overclock?

[azure topaz]

possible yes

but unlikely

[versed creek]

What the fuck

[limpid dune]

13th gen chips don't have the voltage glitch but they do have oxidation problems

[azure topaz]

just saying a 5mv undervolt is nothing

[gentle kestrel]

this may not be the distro for you man

[crude nymph]

Run as admin?

[azure topaz]

1 batch had oxidation

[versed creek]

Alright different os

[azure topaz]

they do have the voltage glitch

[gentle kestrel]

i had an affected one and that was a very interesting thing to use

[crude nymph]

Install mint or something

[versed creek]

Thats probably it but now i am considering a different distro

[azure topaz]

the voltage glitch is due to a specific clock "tree" that degrades and causes the CPU to request higher and higher vids slowly

[gentle kestrel]

it was correcting errors on the fly so my game would just tank to like 20fps at times

[versed creek]

Mint is ubuntu isnt it

[azure topaz]

this clock tree degrades under extreme heat, voltage, and amperage

although when its only 1 of each its not that crazy

[gentle kestrel]

mint is ubuntu the same way ubuntu is debian

[crude nymph]

Yes

[gentle kestrel]

which if you really really strech the same way debian is sort of slackware

[versed creek]

What is slackware

[limpid dune]

Mint uses a lot of parts from Ubuntu, but they're different

[azure topaz]

the solution for these chips even now adays is being smart and manually setting a lot of the settings yourself

like a voltage limit. cant degrade if you never hit the voltage that causes degredation

[limpid dune]

you can literally install Mint and then install all the packages that Kali uses 🙃

[versed creek]

I used to mess around with debian a lot on a chromebook which i later installed kali on

[azure topaz]

wattage limit is very nice and smart of you and is also another way

[versed creek]

Can mint run games

Dumb question

[azure topaz]

an undervolt is helpful but probably wont do anything cause you cant get a high enough offset to significantly reduce voltages in scenarios where degrading would happen

[versed creek]

I mean more specifically how is the game compatibility on mint

[gentle kestrel]

wasn't the bug like really small voltage spikes even outside the limit

[crude nymph]

As well as any other not shit distro can

[azure topaz]

you will find this in your motherboards VRM settings more than likely "IA VR limit"

[gentle kestrel]

or was that a different one

[limpid dune]

games work great on Mint, Steam Proton is very good and works just like the Steam Deck. the only thing Mint can't really do is HDR. Mint works well with Nvidia GPUs

[azure topaz]

yes but that was fixed with 129 (the latest i really recommend) and only with chips that had high single core boost

13900k. 13900ks. (their 14th counterparts) 13700k less so, 13600k even less

scales downwards as power and clock go down too

[versed creek]

Okay again with dumb obvious questions that i can probably infer but mint gets security updatws like windows right

[azure topaz]

on a 13600k i really dont think its degraded unless you had a shit chip with an already high v/f curve

[gentle kestrel]

im on 0x12f but im on alder lake

[azure topaz]

im on 129

the other fixes are useless

[merry dagger]

Before 13600K i had 13900K and it degraded in 4 month, it was so cooked it couldn't even handle a Discord

[crude nymph]

Ofc but updates arent forced on you

[gentle kestrel]

129 had a weird bug on my board where it took about 80 years to boot if it wasnt windows

[azure topaz]

consider your board being at fault

[gentle kestrel]

especially over usb

[crude nymph]

Alr im heading to sleep

[azure topaz]

set a voltage limit like i said, that wattage limit is good, set your cache ratio to the same speed as your ecores, set your loadline so it increases vdroop under load by a little bit

[versed creek]

One of the big things im really wanting is the customizability and also the ease of customizability. I remember having a ton if fun customizing the look of my kali install and also customizing the fake windows theme that kali has

[merry dagger]

i don't have that PC now, but it was asus rog maximus if I remember properly

[azure topaz]

lots of maximus boards and i think some actually were known to be bad

[azure topaz]

do this youll be fine

[gentle kestrel]

asus also had pretty bad defaults

even now they still do

if i hit load optimised default asus wants to throw 1.5v into my 12900ks

with just a bit of changing settings i've never seen it go above 1.3 with identical performance

[versed creek]

Should i go with classic mint or cinnamon

Also whats the deal with arch

[calm idol]

cinnamon is the current default

[calm idol]

do you like pain?

[versed creek]

Fun pain or compatibility issues pain

[calm idol]

the second ofc lmfao

[versed creek]

Im wanting out if the box compatibility but also full control

[old sleet]

keychron k10 pro is 52$ at micro center rn

for anyone that wanted a relatively good mech keyboard for cheap^

[calm idol]

go mint. can still go ham but comes stable out of the box

[versed creek]

What i hate about windows is all the hidden bs. The compatibility on windows is awesome and easy to me.

[old sleet]

go kubuntu

[versed creek]

I have never heard of thay

[old sleet]

ubuntu but kde plasma preinstalled

[calm idol]

i just use winaerotweaker to get rid of the bs for now

[versed creek]

Whats kde plasma

[old sleet]

a desktop environment for linux

the closest one to windows

[versed creek]

Okay chat mint cinnamon or kubuntu

[old sleet]

to the point you can actually theme it like this easily

https://store.kde.org/p/1554634

[versed creek]

Thats pretty cool but i also hate the way windows 11 looks and really like the look of win10

[old sleet]

then you can do something like this

[jaunty apex]

Mint Cinnamon

[old sleet]

using cinammon de was a mistake to me tbh

[jaunty apex]

(or Fedora KDE spin)

[old sleet]

nothing that isnt debian, especially if its your first time with linux

[empty quartz]

:3

[old sleet]

since most guides for linux assume ubuntu

[versed creek]

Install linux

[empty quartz]

(This was free)

[jaunty apex]

I always specify my distro, Linux Mint is its own thing sometimes, has its own issues

[old sleet]

for first time users, kubuntu

[versed creek]

What has better compatibility

[empty quartz]

I prefer to have an os that doesn’t shit the bed if you shut the device off wrong

[old sleet]

ubuntu/kubuntu

kubuntu is the closest to windows in terms of shortcuts and how it feels, its much easier to transition

[empty quartz]

This is going to be my work laptop

[jaunty apex]

Hard to recommend canonical in 2025 tbh

[old sleet]

i yeeted all snap packages with a few lines

[versed creek]

I like being able to install programs

[jaunty apex]

Beyond that, they are just becoming more corporate

[agile topaz]

What's with people that think AMD and Intel are absolutely pointless in the gpu market

[old sleet]

unless you are redhat, you're not closed sourcing a distro any time soon

[empty quartz]

Name an app that you “cant” install

[old sleet]

you got a mac that will never receive updates

[jaunty apex]

Intel is brand new and AMD has had a bad track record

[cedar hollow]

they're quite behind but they're good for budget gpus

[jaunty apex]

Tables are just turning now.. barely

[versed creek]

Intel isnt the best value for gaming i feel. Seems like people who do video editing like intel cards, and nvidia has really good marketing. Amd is great i like it

[old sleet]

im in the same boat, i have a 2018 mbp

[gloomy sleet]

just haggled this guy to £50 was it worth

[empty quartz]

Im literally running running 15.5 on a mac that had support dropped after ventura dropped

[agile topaz]

Yeah, but it definitely seems like people think 2080s are better than 9070XTs just because they won't even consider an AMD card

[old sleet]

thats great but, tahoe is the last os to support intel.

[empty quartz]

Nope

[old sleet]

yes.

apple said this themselves.

[versed creek]

Amd isnt really behind

[empty quartz]

Ever heard of opencore @old sleet

[old sleet]

opencore legacy patcher yes

i know of it, however it relies on the os having even a small bit of support

[cedar hollow]

technologically speaking they are

[versed creek]

Yup. Open it up and swap out the ssd

[empty quartz]

Nope

[old sleet]

yes.

[versed creek]

Amd performs well in gaming

[old sleet]

do you not know how cpus work?

[agile topaz]

It's just a midrange brand, in all honesty. People forget the 9070XT is more competitive with the 5070 in msrp and almost reaches the 5070Ti in raster

[cedar hollow]

for the money yeah

[old sleet]

apple silicon is arm64. intel is x64

[empty quartz]

I literally work on apple stuff for a job

[old sleet]

congrats, that doesnt mean anything in this case

[agile topaz]

I mean granted the market is screwed, but the 9070XT is dropping where I am at least

[old sleet]

you would have to emulate the arm instruction set.

[versed creek]

Okay yes thats how you decide what card to get is the thing. If i could choose any card for maximum performance it would obviously be nvidia but it would also be a 5090ti which no reasonable person is getting. The better option rn is amd

[gloomy sleet]

why

[old sleet]

the arm and x64 instruction set are different.

apple is removing x64 instruction set support

[plush wren]

Everything is a metaphor

[gloomy sleet]

i don’t need anymore then 256gb honestly

[plush wren]

So what

[empty quartz]

Except for todays sponsor

[versed creek]

256g is gonna fill up fast is you do anything on it. You can get a 1tb laptop ssd for a good price and have a fresh os install

[old sleet]

not talking to you kek

[plush wren]

[plush wren]

Bros talking to everyone

[cedar hollow]

I choose nvidia because they're more efficient, better raytracing, DLSS is better than FSR, and they are actually usable for productivity workloads

[agile topaz]

Even thinking about downloading a modern game

[empty quartz]

That kid doesnt know that similar things has happened in the past

[gloomy sleet]

i barely use 1tb on the pc i’m installing games on

this thing just needs to hold word documents

[old sleet]

32 bit and 64 bit are different, 64 bit has most of 32 bit instruction set.

[gloomy sleet]

i don’t think i’ll get past 50gb

[plush wren]

[empty quartz]

Terrascale to gcn is a very similar case

[agile topaz]

I mean sure, AMD for raw gaming, especially in raster punches above its price range nowadays though.

[versed creek]

Ray tracing isnt worth it to me. The fact that we are still having to use things like dlss and frame generation to get decent performance sucks. I dont play ray tracing games that often so why would i pay for a featureset and hardware that i dont use and most people dont use

Also frame gen looks like ass

[gloomy sleet]

i mean i chose a 4060 because amd didn’t have a competitor

[agile topaz]

DLSS4 frame gen at a decent base framerate looks way better than it did, without as much latency

[versed creek]

I game in 1440 so a 60 card dosent make sense for me

[empty quartz]

Frame gen doesnt look like ass if you’re running above 60fps

[cedar hollow]

frame gen looks nice

[gloomy sleet]

i also game 1440p on my 4060

[agile topaz]

^ in fact, looks so good I have no reason to not use it

[gentle kestrel]

i played on a 2060 at 1440p a couple years back

[versed creek]

No i firmly dislike the idea of ai generated frames

[gloomy sleet]

why

[versed creek]

Im more willing to use upscaling

[agile topaz]

They aren't taking your job man

It's literally free frames with a more modern card atp

[gentle kestrel]

rasterized images are also still rendering tricks

[gloomy sleet]

your saying this as if games aren’t trying to use every trick in the book to boost frame rate

[versed creek]

I am just against the idea if putting generative ai in fucking everything

I dont want ai in my games

[gloomy sleet]

framegen just makes sense

[hexed tapir]

But I think a lot of users will turn it on if it's under 60 fps thinking it will help

[empty quartz]

@versed creek do you like dlss

[gloomy sleet]

more fps better

[agile topaz]

But for stuff like this it's literally the one place it should be if nothing else

[versed creek]

Id prefer not to use it

[gloomy sleet]

also ai has been in games for the last 40 years

[cedar hollow]

I also like my 5060 Ti

my 5060 Ti is an absolute beast

[gloomy sleet]

first ever game had ai lil bro

what’s the power usage on that?

[cedar hollow]

180W TGP

I have mine overclocked to almost 3080 Ti levels

[gloomy sleet]

i’ll stick to my 115w max

[versed creek]

I dont even really see the point of frame gen. If the framerate matters for looks then my argument is that it looks bad and it makes everything smeary. If you're using frame gen because you want to max out your frame rate for maximum gaming ™️ in a shooter it dosent make sense either because every other frame youre asking the fucking ai to guess where the enemy is

[gloomy sleet]

i want to have money after my electrical bill is paid off

[gloomy sleet]

it does not make things look smeary

[cedar hollow]

5060 Ti is very efficient

[empty quartz]

You should use my old gpu

400-500W

[gloomy sleet]

maybe if your running 30fps to 120fps sure

[versed creek]

Id rather run at 60fps and every frame be an accurate representation of whats in game than get 120 fps and half the game be ai

[gloomy sleet]

i’d lose my house

[agile topaz]

Ai is smarter than people, and it's usually always right unless it's completely shot. It also doesn't make things look smeary, just have a good base fps and don't run a 980 when you try it out and be surprised when it looks bad

[gloomy sleet]

the ai 120fps is a just as accurate representation as the 60fps

[versed creek]

It absolutely does especially with ray tracing on. Its very noticeable and it looks exactly like those dall e mini videos from 2023 and 2024

[plush wren]

Reject AI

[gloomy sleet]

disagree

[versed creek]

I reject ai

[gloomy sleet]

play at a higher base frame rate

[gloomy sleet]

don’t play video games then

[twin kiln]

Anyone know of a free alternative to TeamViewer that is as easy to use from an android phone, which is less aggressive about detecting "commercial use"? I don't intend on using it for commercial purposes, but TeamViewer keeps hitting me with false positives and it's aggravating

[versed creek]

I hate frame gen for the same reason i reject ai image generation in general

[plush wren]

REJECT AI

[cedar hollow]

people rejected google when it first came out
people will always reject new things

[empty quartz]

Not even close to the same argument there

[plush wren]

yeah be different

I rejected windows 11 now look at me

[gloomy sleet]

ai frames is completely different to ai image gen

[agile topaz]

Nobody is drawing each frame on software for you, its not the same

[gloomy sleet]

windows 11 is so much fucking better then 10 and i’m tired of pretending it’s not

[plush wren]

Bro u the type of guy to yap about assembly

[old sleet]

gonna ignore the bait.

[frigid blade]

AI generated frames are good for low budget gaming

[plush wren]

[versed creek]

No

[empty quartz]

I rejected linux (except steamos) now look at me

[gloomy sleet]

by your logic we need to go back to coding in ASM

[hexed tapir]

Fsr/dlss is a amazing as long as game devs also prioritize optimizing the games it's in

[gloomy sleet]

anyway windows 11 is objectively better

[plush wren]

[agile topaz]

The issue's always been a lack of optimization and base card power, when you're at a good base framerate you literally just get more frames by turning frame gen on

[gloomy sleet]

you literally retain all the features of windows 10 including ui if you want to go back to it

[old sleet]

i love windows eating 30% of my ram on a week old install

[empty quartz]

I build

[gloomy sleet]

and you get windows 11 file explorer

[gloomy sleet]

it doesn’t eat 30% of my ram after 2 years