tech-chat-1

[clear canyon]

Yeah

[thorn cove]

The software, when I booted up my pc for the first time it told me it wanted to download its software

[tidal geyser]

do not

[clear canyon]

Tell it no

[thorn cove]

alright thank you guys!

[clear canyon]

Its not needed at all

[clear canyon]

Np

[tidal geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1027254750724505721.gif?size=48

[thorn cove]

And before I hop of, do these bios USBs count as normal USB?

[tidal geyser]

yes

[thorn cove]

awesome, thank you!

[tidal geyser]

usb 3.2 just for bios updating would be something but no its just a normal usb port

[latent gull]

Usbc port dedicated for flashing bios sounds like a dell thing

[tidal geyser]

it would 100% be internal then

[fiery plover]

Used markets here on my area are scams

[tidal geyser]

skill issue

[fiery plover]

That's why I'm askng what I should get between the two while I send my 6600 to gigabyte for warranty

[latent gull]

I keep thinking the mods are in chat cause of the name popping up while typing

[tidal geyser]

i dono why not just wait

[fiery plover]

1 month process. CPu don't have graphics to display

[tidal geyser]

im still unsure if its the gpu but o well, ofc a 3050 would nuke a 1650

[fiery plover]

It's the GPU. I borrowed a 1050 ti for tonight and I haven't gotten a single blac kscreen

[tidal geyser]

what psu you got

[livid fern]

[tidal geyser]

get a psu

wat da

[tidal geyser]

HMMMMMMM

[terse sparrow]

That looks like a shortcut to losing your house

[fiery plover]

It has worked fine

[livid fern]

It dosent have OTP

[tidal geyser]

do you have issues with anything that uses a pcie cable?

[livid fern]

Let me look up the review brb

[terse sparrow]

Please don't cheap out on PSUs people

[fiery plover]

The thing you put on the gpu

No

[tidal geyser]

wat

[livid fern]

We dont have a review for it

[tidal geyser]

did the 1050 ti have a pcie cable?

[fiery plover]

The 6 pin cable? No

[tidal geyser]

did the rx 6600 have a pcie cable

[fiery plover]

Yes

[tidal geyser]

so answer this again

[fiery plover]

Besides the gpu no

[tidal geyser]

are you having issues with the gpu (also the gpu is kinda the only thing that uses it)

[fiery plover]

Yes

I mean yeah the psu might've degraded I guess

It's as old as the gpu

[latent gull]

What am I not understanding here. Why is this a problem

[hoary tree]

$280 (1000 nis) below retail

[tulip geyser]

ask if they can allow you to come over and test or something

[tidal geyser]

ultracheap PSU with a cable that is meant for like 2000$ GPUs

[hoary tree]

They already say they're okay with testing it

[tulip geyser]

nice mate, hopefully it's legit and you can cop it

[latent gull]

Oh is a 12v 2x6 a 12v high power?

[hoary tree]

Also. Even though its $280 (1000₪) lower than retail, its still priced at roughly $1012

[dapper dragon]

1-2

Why does Nvidia include those again lmao

[tidal geyser]

so you can use the gpu?

[dapper dragon]

The second connector

3rd actually

[tidal geyser]

wat

[dapper dragon]

Splits into two

[tidal geyser]

that is so you do not make fire

[fiery plover]

@tidal geyser so you really think it's the PSU? It's been running great for a year now so sorry if I'm a little skeptic

[dapper dragon]

They’re pointless on a 5070ti, only pulls 300w

[tidal geyser]

i would anyways replace it

[tidal geyser]

how much can one connector do

[livid fern]

The problem with psus that fail are it works till it dosent

It could randomly day

[dapper dragon]

300w, and it never gets close to 300

[tidal geyser]

nope

also the 5070 ti does like 350w

[lean plaza]

It could be real bro I got a RTx 3060 for like 70$

[livid fern]

One pcie 6+2 can do like 200w without getting hot

[tidal geyser]

and no with rtx 5000 they do not do much on the pcie slot

[dapper dragon]

It’s a 600w split into two

[tidal geyser]

HAHAHHAHAH

you think 12v 2x6 only has 600w

[dapper dragon]

What?

It’s a 300w tdp card

[tidal geyser]

TDP means nothing

[dapper dragon]

[tidal geyser]

yea??

[dapper dragon]

cable he’s showing is literally labelled 600w

[tidal geyser]

is it?

also

[tidal geyser]

and it could never say nvidia on it

[tidal geyser]

spikes to 350

well 356

[livid fern]

What psu is it

[tidal geyser]

not psu

talking about the 12v 2x6 splitter

[livid fern]

Yes but

[tidal geyser]

that came with the 5070 ti

[dapper dragon]

Yea

[dapper dragon]

It’s Nvidia branded

600w

[tidal geyser]

OMFG

[dapper dragon]

Says it on the cable for a 5070ti

[tidal geyser]

WHEREEEEEE

[dapper dragon]

Sec

Can’t find a boxed one but

[tidal geyser]

OMG you are so fucking idotic, no shit can it do 600w that is the point of the cable, but at the same time the splitter they give like the one in the 5070 ti box we were talking about only is is 2 2+6 cables due to them being rated for 150w aka 300w aka what it needs it can still handle spikes with the pcie slot oor just do it between the 2 2+6 cables

[dapper dragon]

Are you fucking dense reread the shit we’ve been sending

[dapper dragon]

Where do you think it’s going?

[dapper dragon]

Enlighten me

[tidal geyser]

what is going

AGAIN 6+2 is RATED for 150w

[latent gull]

Isn’t it the connector rated for 600? But the cables can be different depending on what input they have

[tidal geyser]

if you try and pull 600w from a connector that is only rated for 150w x2 you are going to see fire

[tidal geyser]

the splitter can be

but we are talking about the adapter that comes with the 5070 ti

as it only has 2 2+6 connectors

and those 2+6 connectors are only rated for 150w so with 2 it means 300w total

if you plug that into a 5090 or 4090 you WILL see fire

not at the 12v 2x6 end tho well probs not

[inner veldt]

Should i put 25mm fans under my 67,8mm thick GPU and the total distance is 94mm? Distance with fans and GPU would be 1,2mm

[tidal geyser]

is it overheating also no

[inner veldt]

I mean for bottom intake

I need to use fans

[tidal geyser]

i ask again, is it overheating

[inner veldt]

No but its MFF build

Theres no intake except bottom

[tidal geyser]

SFF?

[tidal geyser]

and the gpu does not have fans?

[inner veldt]

It does

[clear canyon]

25mm? 😭

[tidal geyser]

so is it overheating

[inner veldt]

No

[tidal geyser]

then the answer to the fans is nop

[inner veldt]

Just asking would it cause issue if I put fans there with 1,2mm clearance?

[tidal geyser]

many

[gentle kestrel]

the gpu fans can handle intake just fine honestly

especially that close to the bottom of the case

alternatively pop off the gpu shroud and just stick some 30mm 120 fans under it

[limber basalt]

Is this a good build for around 1350?

573.74 with taxes for 4070 super
111.55 with taxes for nzxt h9 elite
322.49 with taxes for mono, cpu, and ram bundle
65.72 with taxes for Kingston NV2 1tb
0.00 for Samsung 850 evo 1tb
0.00 for Kingston (idk exact model) 500gb
131.34 for psu and aio
37.42 for fans
11.88 strimmers
59.11 for extra 16gb ram(32-38-38-96 @6000mt/s)
33.76 for vert mount
Grand total: 1347.01

Found the extra drives in my basement

[tidal geyser]

jesus

[tidal geyser]

cpu?

[limber basalt]

7600x

Got the bundle from microcenter

[tidal geyser]

a 1400$ pc with a 4070 and 7600x

and this is with access to MC

[limber basalt]

Is that bad?

I built it last July

I was hoping to sell it right about now

[tidal geyser]

sell it??

[limber basalt]

Ye

[tidal geyser]

why

[limber basalt]

For a Better pc

[tidal geyser]

eh???

how why what

there is no better platform

am6 is still 3 years away my guy

[limber basalt]

Maybe I’ll just swap gpu then

[clear canyon]

Why do you need a better gpu?

4070 super is a great card

@limber basalt

[limber basalt]

i found and bought a5080 for 1050

[tidal geyser]

also you can just put in the best gaming cpu money can buy

in the pc already with zero performance difference vs a x870e

[limber basalt]

yea it’s not that I need it it’s that I found a good deal

[tidal geyser]

on a entire pc?

[limber basalt]

no the 5080

now that I’m thinking about it ima just keep my build and do a cpu gpu swap

[tidal geyser]

yea

[limber basalt]

an 850 watt is fine for a 5080 right

[tidal geyser]

ehhh meh yolo should work

[limber basalt]

lol ok

it’s not like bad quality it’s an rm 850x

[gentle kestrel]

360w card so yeah

why wouldn't it work

[limber basalt]

cuz the minimum for 5080 is 850

and it’s recommended to shoot 100 over minimum

[gentle kestrel]

roughly same specs on pc part picker has a max draw of 600w

the 850w req nvidia has is a guarantee assuming you have a load of other stuff plugged in

[fierce forge]

I'm having to get a new router, I have 2gb fiber and want something from Unifi. Should I get the "Dream Router 7" https://store.ui.com/us/en/products/udr7 or the "Cloud Gateway Ultra" https://store.ui.com/us/en/products/ucg-ultra

[tidal geyser]

i just got the fiber for my 500/500

[gentle kestrel]

well you definitely don't want the bottom one unless you're halving your speed

[tidal geyser]

CGU is gig only

[gentle kestrel]

my isp upgraded us from 500/500 to symmetrical gigabit for free like a week ago

[tidal geyser]

o wow

[teal quiver]

Do we still have the GPU value tracker? I remember that being a really useful tool a couple years ago

[clear canyon]

I run an overclocked 4080 on a 750watt

[gentle kestrel]

i ran a 5800x3d/3080 on a sf600

worked fine

[south arrow]

Goodmorning my techy peeps

[azure topaz]

an sf600 is a slightly worse sf750 which is a 900w psu downtuned

aka the goat of ITX psus

[tulip geyser]

that's a cute pic

[south arrow]

Stole it off Facebook credit ~ unknown but it is neatss

[gentle kestrel]

yeah when i got it years ago all the other ones didnt have nearly the same rep

[harsh vector]

What’s this?

Damn am I glad I saw that

[tulip geyser]

one of my fav cartoons growing up. But still picked Regular Show over this. Too much lore for me to handle as a kid from Adventure Time. Only ep that I liked is the one where Pre-Ice King has to take kid Marceline through the apocalyptic city and then he later uses the crown to protect her.

[latent gull]

Hmm. Don’t like this art style for some reason.

[shut shard]

hp

[fiery plover]

@tidal geyser I don't get it. (I'll Buy a PSU when I have enough to buy one)

But I managed to get my hands on another 6600 same brand. My friend let me borrow his computer and we swapped cards for testing. His 6600 is working fine on my PC and my 6600 is working fine on his PC. So I dunno what's causing the black screen now since both initial culprits are out

I'm thinking maybe and just maybe I ddu'd mine wrong?

Cuz I checked this when I ddu'd

I installed my driver on his card and it updated normally meanwhile he installed his driver to my card and instead of the normal downgrade it says repair

[south arrow]

That's alright pixel art isn't for all

[civic ferry]

windows dedicating 28 gb of ram cause "free ram is wasted ram"

[wheat torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1320052449200836699/1383114260481310920/2025-06-13_18-59-02-cut-merged-1749830407982.mp4?ex=684d9d08&is=684c4b88&hm=e5bb95fe8873e0048ee22af7583dff6075ccace3f7206381f1db34b34ddb7349&

Me trying to mine my switch 2

[tulip geyser]

but still though, that's crazy protection

before I even clicked play, I just see that video format layout and I knew it was JerryRigEverything

[coral rivet]

i have a 3070 i7 10700k 4000 16x2gb ddr4 ram

what should i upgrade to

[tulip geyser]

well we gotta know what's your budget and what you want to do

[tidal geyser]

a better monitor then i dono 9070 xt or smn

[gusty wagon]

If gaming and daily use case, 7800X3D or 9800X3D and either a 4090, 7900XTX, 6800XT or 9700XT

[tidal geyser]

i dono i would just go best 9800X3D and 4090

[gusty wagon]

But if you mix red and greed it becomes poopy brown

[wheat torrent]

I need to figure out how to connect this to an outlet

[gusty wagon]

Not the kinda good brown like noctua's

[tidal geyser]

get a 14900k

[gusty wagon]

And it melts down

[tired bear]

start by acquiring a male plug

[young crest]

naturally

[wheat torrent]

yep that's what I thought

male plug + cable + lightbulb socket

• hotglue

lightbulb on a cable

[young crest]

and then blow up ur house

[tulip geyser]

performance diff much between those 2?

[young crest]

Idk i have a 9900X

[tulip geyser]

they're not yours lol? My bad

[young crest]

They are mine

Their just isn’t CPUs in them

[tulip geyser]

ah just display boxes?

[young crest]

I have the complete packaging tho

Basically

[tulip geyser]

ah ok

[young crest]

the i9 is a KS so it’s kinda neat

[vale reef]

i love when my two dollar lavalier fails on me

[lean plaza]

I took out the ram out the pc but when I put it back in it's not going in fully so I manually pushed the clip up but the pc ain't recognised the ram so I took it out and DK what to do

Someone help it only has one ram clip not two

[coral rivet]

why i need monitor

[tidal geyser]

Eh I dono, just do 9800x3d and 5090

[cedar hollow]

real

[spice canyon]

Is a ssd physically visible on a computer?

[azure topaz]

yes

[coral rivet]

right because i’m a millionaire

@tidal geyser be fr

[young crest]

All pc builders are Ofcourse

that’s how it works

lmao

[coral rivet]

give me like a grand upgrade

[young crest]

best i can do is a gateway with 2 pentium 3s

[coral rivet]

gang what

[young crest]

lol

[terse sparrow]

i just got a 9060 xt, and its fine. And im still running a 5900x

nobody needs a 5090

[young crest]

but it’s funi

[harsh vector]

Do you still have the link?

[peak knot]

18 hours into testing and max variance so far has been .000007V

[south arrow]

Sure or the ghibli community pagehttps://www.facebook.com/share/p/1XJVZpgPA1/

[young crest]

Way too much, shut it down (i have no idea what you’re doing)

[harsh vector]

Dude, the ep + the song = depression

[peak knot]

im testing voltage stability of a voltage reference i made, this is tellling me how much the voltage drifts throughout a day, so less is good and at this point it basically is drifting very little

[young crest]

Ah that’s cool. Seems like it’s going swimmingly then

[harsh vector]

This’d be a good wallpaper engine wallpaper. Someone should definitely do that.

An adventure time game in this style + this main menu would be phenomenal

[peak knot]

this is the device im testing, its a 10V reference with a simple resistor voltage divider

[strange atlas]

My friend wants to know how much can his psu handle a gpu

Maybe you guys can help

[azure topaz]

744w on the 12v rail

[timber pike]

Which one?

[azure topaz]

it says it right there lol

the 12v rail is what gpus run off

[timber pike]

gpu

[azure topaz]

750w is enough

[timber pike]

Not for everything

[timber pike]

A100?

[azure topaz]

😐

[peak knot]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-launches-6-core-ryzen-5-5500x3d-budget-3d-v-cache-cpu-for-latin-america oh boy another am4 cpu, this one being a reject of a reject...

[azure topaz]

youre hilarious

[timber pike]

In array?

[azure topaz]

his friend is definitely running an a100

totally

[timber pike]

fr lol

[azure topaz]

hilarious

[azure topaz]

yeahhh i saw it this morning

[strange atlas]

MSI MAG A750GL

[azure topaz]

good psu too yeah its fine for any gpu hed be using

[timber pike]

Bruh

[fringe prairie]

zen3 in the big 2025 holy

[strange atlas]

Thank you rx 9070xt goes for 640 watts on spikes good to know

[timber pike]

You'll be fine

[young crest]

Cuz the 5600X3D was so unobtainable lol

[fringe prairie]

wouldn't this literally be a 3600x3d?

[azure topaz]

psus dont do exactly their rated output

especially during spikes

[timber pike]

Btw you should try pc part picker

[azure topaz]

lots of psus will handle spikes like +40% out of range

(most should tbh)

[strange atlas]

than i'm even better like this

[azure topaz]

anything worth its weight in salt would

[strange atlas]

Only problem is when it goes to 640 watt i wonder how does a cpu work

[azure topaz]

it would work perfectly fine

[strange atlas]

cpu is 60 watts

[azure topaz]

thats 700

[timber pike]

bro use pcpp!!

[azure topaz]

so youre well under the limit during spikes even....

[strange atlas]

fans mobo rams etc

[azure topaz]

likely like not over

but close to being

but thats completely fine

[strange atlas]

aight thank you again

[azure topaz]

and it only goes to 640w for like, probably less than 5ms

[strange atlas]

yeah its only spike

[azure topaz]

more about how the PSU handles transient spikes vs the psus rated output

and the A750GL will handle transients fine

[kindred halo]

The GL iirc is either B or A tier

It'll handle loads quite well

[azure topaz]

yeah its decent

[limber nacelle]

mreow

[azure topaz]

mreeewwwww

[livid fern]

B

although msi goes over to Huntkey as its seems

didnt use CWT on AGLS

CWT wants to costdown everything currently. Event jonny wasnt very happy with it

As AGL 850w and below werent costdowned very good

[lunar sail]

I don't suppose someone could help. I downloaded the windows media creation tool. Used it on a USB drive and turned my internet off, I then selected remove everything and reset my pc, bypassed Microsoft login and checked my files all while offline

For some reason I still have a bunch of files

Like Medal, Steam Library etc etc. The files are mostly empty but it's still concerning

Even a full python game

[fiery plover]

Question. Does having too much ram sticks installed can cause the gpu to crash?

[jaunty apex]

I mean if the goal is to have a fresh windows install, Id format the drive before doing it again.

as for having too many sticks crashing the GPU, unlikely

[tidal geyser]

did you delete all your partitions?

[fiery plover]

I'm totally lost

On what's causing this freaking system crash

[lunar sail]

Oh no I didn't

[tidal geyser]

wa

then you did not really reinstall windows

[lunar sail]

Tbh I just went through the few remaining files and deleted everything I was allowed to

All I have as "partitions" is two different SSDs

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-trapped-kitten-speech-bubble-gif-25553629

[lunar sail]

Because one wasn't detected by windows

[lean plaza]

How do you install a ram stick look at tech support channel I made a post on it

[south arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-love-live-anime-kitten-kitty-gif-5239935973416162652

[waxen marlin]

I want to get my dad a keyboard for his hand me down gaming computer any suggestions?

[wet ember]

😔

got this huge advertisement when i turned my computer on

[gloomy sleet]

did bro miss the remind me later

just press that bro

[winter lantern]

Bro doesn't want to wait 30m for a download 🥀

[trim gyro]

windows doesn't take no for an answer

[tidal geyser]

welp im now considering going for a CMF phone 2 pro

[random gyro]

I created a top 10 list:
Am I wrong?

[tidal geyser]

2 of the games on that list cant be played anymore

wait no splatoon can you

[trim gyro]

valorant's not that toxic

[tidal geyser]

or what was going on there

[tidal geyser]

almost the other way around but not the good way

[trim gyro]

a very intimate experience

[random gyro]

?

[tidal geyser]

csgo and splatoon

[random gyro]

Splatoon 3 is filled with cringey adult vtubers

[random gyro]

CS 2 is it's replacement

[tidal geyser]

so put cs2 in?

[random gyro]

yeh

[versed swan]

vrc is more cringe than val by a lot

[trim gyro]

thank goodness blue archive is not on there

[versed swan]

I say this as a vrc player

[random gyro]

val is filled with cringe children, vrc are cringe adults who have no social life

[versed swan]

vrc has cringe children too

[random gyro]

val has cringe children who only join because they want to go PRO, the people on VRC have no social life at all and act like they OWN the game compared to the children, teens are a different story

[strange atlas]

Anybody seen that case in ztt video?

Is it good for airflow i really liked the case

[versed swan]

you have not seen what i've seen on vrc

you dont understand

[ivory sorrel]

Horrors beyond comprehension?

[versed swan]

its an asylum of cringe

without moderation

[ivory sorrel]

The Arkham of no social life

[versed swan]

yeah

I can't even talk about it on here because rules

[true stirrup]

ZTT👎

[ivory sorrel]

What is ztt?

[strange atlas]

seen it in youtube feed 😢

[hexed tapir]

A grown man (YouTuber ) that charged kids over $80 to build them pcparpicker list

[calm idol]

[ivory sorrel]

[calm idol]

I could retire if i could charge 80$ for a goddamn pcpplist

[tired bear]

HMU for a 80$ Pcpp list lmao (i will delagate list creation to sim)

[vivid meteor]

I just installed an Nvme but its not detected in bios

[hexed tapir]

$500 too

Wait he builds it too nvm

$500 for a list and A builder

[tired bear]

it is out of stock

[hexed tapir]

It was $99 not 80

[hexed tapir]

He stopped doing them but hasn't removed them from the site

[calm idol]

even origin doesnt overcharge that much iirc wtf

[bold drum]

dude i'm actually going to lose my mind, i still cant decide on either getting a 4070 or 7800xt
7800xt has better raw performance but the 4070 has better rt performance

these are two cards in my price range

[somber void]

Do you need RT

Also maybe buy a used 4070 TI

If you don't mind buying used

[full warren]

do i look toxic to you

nah but fr theres some nice ass people on vrchat

most of them are nice

some are weird and some are toxic but all in all its fun especially with friends

depends on wich world you join yk if you join SEXY MEGA SEX FNAF HANGOUT (SEX EDITION) theres gonna be weird people there

[bold drum]

i'm buying used already and i have a pretty tight budget for a gpu

[empty quartz]

Real

[bold drum]

my two options are either a 4070 or rx 7800xt

[empty quartz]

You seem to be kinda angry over someone stating their opinion, so yes

[full warren]

i was literally just presenting valid arguments

[empty quartz]

The fact that you seem to be angry says otherwise

[full warren]

0/10 ragebait

[honest pilot]

Could someone recommend me a cpu cooler for a ryzen 7 9800x3d please?

[copper wigeon]

In what price range may I ask?

[empty quartz]

Not ragebait

[random gyro]

aio idea DOWN. i am still between getting a mini pc and a laptop because im just indecisive and i have uhhh

[honest pilot]

£150

[random gyro]

until october ish

[random gyro]

yes

[full warren]

then what are you talking about 😭

im not toxic

i promise

[empty quartz]

Telling you that people who cant handle other’s opinions are toxic themselves

[full warren]

when did i ever say that

[empty quartz]

Never

[abstract wigeon]

late reply but isnt this better than what most prebuilt companies markup over DIY?

[full warren]

so you did ragebait me

[empty quartz]

-2/10 ragebait

[hexed tapir]

This is just for a list of parts

[full warren]

im gonna kiss you

[copper wigeon]

I personally would go with an “Artic liquid freezer III Pro” or any similar aio honestly.

[abstract wigeon]

oh? like literally he just sends them a pcpartpicker list? god thats shit

[honest pilot]

Is this it?

[hexed tapir]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FpbJXR like here you go pay me $99 type shit

[true stirrup]

PA120, PA120SE, PS120, PS120SE, AK620

[hexed tapir]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KhgZxr/thermalright-royal-pretor-130-black-8188-cfm-cpu-cooler-royal-pretor-130-black

[true stirrup]

That's a new one

[empty quartz]

Unlike todays sponsor

Glasswire!

[west blade]

Creature

[hexed sage]

valid crashout?

[sly halo]

Hey so if I buy cyberpunk on GOG do I still gets updates and bug fixes since they give the offline installer right?

[sly halo]

This is bullshit update the drivers and you’re good

[tidal geyser]

use firefox

[sly halo]

Or use uBlock lite

I could never use any other browser than chrome

It’s so seamless between devices and the passwords, bookmarks, everything

[hexed sage]

update what drivers 😭

[tidal geyser]

so is firefox?

[sly halo]

Ad drivers or something you’ll see it in the settings

[tidal geyser]

ad drivers???????????

[sly halo]

Nah I’ve tried it’s just not the same idk how to explain it

[tidal geyser]

idc it works without even a small issue for me

[sly halo]

Ad blocking I mean update database or something

You see it in the settings

Filter lists and stuff

[hexed tapir]

Real ogs call it Phoenix

[empty quartz]

Nuh uh

[hexed tapir]

Or firebird

[sly halo]

Is Firefox’s adblocker better than uBlock

I tried using Firefox in like 2019 it wasn’t for me

It didn’t have a lot of features I might try it again

[tidal geyser]

THAT WAS 6 YEARS AGO

[hexed tapir]

Real ogs call chrome backrub

[left dove]

lmao

[hexed tapir]

We should bring back the name backrub for google

[tidal geyser]

choose your fav

[sly halo]

Yeah but like first impression yk how how it is, is the blocker better than uBlock imma download it

[tidal geyser]

no firefox does not have a built in blocker

[sly halo]

Oh

[tidal geyser]

yes ublock works on firefox

[random gyro]

i remember firefox i use brave now over it tho

[hexed tapir]

Google owns YouTube and chrome so it should be easy to skirt around the AdBlock popup on Firefox

[tidal geyser]

also google has already taken down well tried to take down adblockers on their plugin store

[sly halo]

Naw uBlock works fine on chrome you just gotta use the lite version

[tidal geyser]

it was so funny when people came here and asked how me fix

[sly halo]

Been using it for months after the ban

[tidal geyser]

i got this once then never again

[sly halo]

They never banned the lite version

[tidal geyser]

well it really looks like they are blocking it now

[hexed tapir]

I have ublock origin on chrome still

[sly halo]

That’s not the lite version he’s using

The original one can’t receive updates since it’s banned

[hexed sage]

anyone know how to get software for your kbm?

[tidal geyser]

wat

[hexed sage]

theres no website for it

[hexed tapir]

Keyboard mouse?

[tidal geyser]

what is a kbm???

[tidal geyser]

keyboard bouse and mouse

[hexed sage]

keyboard and mouse

[hexed sage]

bouse

[tidal geyser]

where did the b come from

[sly halo]

they got beef thats wild

[tidal geyser]

uhhh the same place you get most drivers from the devices website

[hexed sage]

keyboard is basically two words ig

[hexed tapir]

Go to the company website you bought it from and see if it has software to use

[sly halo]

its called kbm

[hexed sage]

i hope i didnt install malware just now

[sly halo]

km sounds wrong as shit

[tidal geyser]

never ever once heard anyone use it

[sly halo]

naw its common practice

[hexed sage]

ok what the hell

i installed the drivers and it changed my mouse icon 😭

[tidal geyser]

anyhow looking for a new phone info is spread EVERYWHERE a lot of places said it did not have wireless then i watch the LTT video and boom

o no i cant hear

[edgy holly]

nothing has been cooking its kinda wild

[tidal geyser]

no i was wrong

i heard wireless charging and saw dat

[edgy holly]

aw

[tidal geyser]

i wish they did a little thingy for wireless charging and it said no wireless charging or something beside that

oof, o well anyhow there are cases with wireless charging if i really did care

[sly halo]

what phone is that

[tidal geyser]

OMG

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-cat-facepalm-cat-bruh-bru-gif-3855516381892795428

[hexed sage]

this isnt the normal cursor right?

[sly halo]

60hz in big 25

[hexed tapir]

My luna

[sly halo]

looks normal to me

[tidal geyser]

eh?

[hexed sage]

I can't tell if my cursor changed or im losing my mind

[sly halo]

screen gotta be 90 atleast

[tidal geyser]

what platform is doing 120hz videos wat

[sly halo]

im talking about the screen

[tidal geyser]

its 120hz oled?

it can even do 3000 nits

[sly halo]

ohh im dumb

[tidal geyser]

60hz was the video or i dono smn like dat

[sly halo]

makes sense

[tidal geyser]

the screen does have that auto thing i think

[sly halo]

60 on an android screen is horrible

[tidal geyser]

i know

<@&750150305383186585>

[hexed tapir]

<@&750150305383186585> you should subscribe

[tidal geyser]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/808903373448282142

[sly halo]

I will leave hate comments Michael

[tidal geyser]

my phone with the packplate wanting to not be attached anymore is 60hz

like its fine for what i do but meh 120hz will be nice

ty MOD

[hexed tapir]

Everyone spam report his channel to YouTube

[sly halo]

I got an android too its an old oneplus but the 90hz is nice barely use it tho

mainly use my iPhone the 60hz looks better than the droids 90

[hexed tapir]

I keep my pixel 9 at 60hz

[sly halo]

pixels are my favourite androids

camera, os, no bloatware, battery

[tidal geyser]

what phone do you have

[sly halo]

wharra do

[empty quartz]

🥶

[clear oasis]

an iphone 14 pro

[tidal geyser]

buu

[empty quartz]

Ancient

[hexed tapir]

So many drives

[sly halo]

that cooler looks sick

[wet scroll]

Is asus prime B760M-A WIFI any good

Its 150

[empty quartz]

Avoid asus

[tidal geyser]

why lga 1700

[wet scroll]

Whys that?

[hexed tapir]

Says the Rx 470-580 owner smh

[wet scroll]

I5 14th gen

[empty quartz]

Asus is shit

[tidal geyser]

also you can get like z790 ddr4 for liek 100$

[tidal geyser]

did you get it gifted or something?

[hexed tapir]

Prime is one of the lowest end SKUs Asus has

[empty quartz]

Im getting a b580 soon

[wet scroll]

Does that apply to their gpus

[clear oasis]

waiting for the ip 17

[empty quartz]

No

[wet scroll]

No i did research and for the prices here its the best value for its range

[empty quartz]

Ew

[tidal geyser]

im needing a new phone soon, so been looking at some stuff and the CMF phone 2 pro is looking MIGHTY fine

[empty quartz]

You need an iphone 16 pro max :3 @clear oasis

[wet scroll]

Not here 💔💔

[tidal geyser]

what country and what budget

[tidal geyser]

what gpu did you plan to pair it with?

[hexed tapir]

The iphone 17 will basically be that but cheaper

[clear oasis]

I just am in the ecosystem unfortunately

[tidal geyser]

sad

[clear oasis]

well a iphone 17 pro

when i do get it

[wet scroll]

Egypt, i already checked amd options and the ones better are 80 dollars more expensive

[tidal geyser]

yeah my rule going forward will be trying to do open soruce well mosly and or more open devices

[sly halo]

the 17 series back camera looks ass the huge ass thing

[tidal geyser]

o yea you f-ed good luck

[clear oasis]

the ipad is amazing, the apple watch has made me lose weight, and get a lot of things solved

[wet scroll]

I didnt buy yet 💔 but prices here are funky

[tidal geyser]

i have some ionic watch i have been using for a month now that is from 2018

its nice

like yea apple stuff is fun but also DAM pricey

[hexed tapir]

That 5g radiation sickness do help with weight loss

[sly halo]

I think the macbook is their best product honestly

[gentle kestrel]

i’ve had 0 issues with my asus board on lga1700

[clear oasis]

I dont have one, and i kinda dont need one?

[tidal geyser]

plan is also to grab some windows tablet or something

[wet scroll]

Either 4060 or 6650 xt, ot if i could find a good used 6700 for around the same price

[empty quartz]

Nuh uh

[tidal geyser]

what at 720p

[wet scroll]

No 1080?

I dont play triple A games

[hexed tapir]

I bought an arm powered refurbished Chromebook tablet just to use as a dnd player sheet

[tidal geyser]

as a even i3 12100 you are not gonna see a major difference in games vs other things well eh maybe a bit extreme but eh with those gpus vs 14th gen

[wet scroll]

The diffrence between i5 14th and 12th gen here is 40 dollars , and im not getting an i3

[hexed tapir]

I disagree it's the $999 monitor arm

[sly halo]

dont stick any pencils in it

[tidal geyser]

i have a microsft surface and installed linux on it :3
the screen sadly is no longer touchscreen happened a while ago it just stopped and i stopped using it due to that and it kinda lost the point of what it is

[tidal geyser]

yea

just saying

stuff

[gentle kestrel]

the only game i saw noticeably gain performance getting off the i3 was fortnite somehow

[wet scroll]

Also bcs ppl here are dumb , rtx gpus hold their price pretty well, i plan to upgrade in the future

[gentle kestrel]

i had a 13100f in a system awhile back

went to a 12700k i got off tiktok and it was night and day

[wet scroll]

Isnt fn more cpu heavy?

[gentle kestrel]

it’s kinda just fairly heavy in general now

[sly halo]

yeah multiplayer games are

[hexed tapir]

Buy a i7 7700k then.

[gentle kestrel]

chapter 6 or whatever with the new lighting and rt support

[sly halo]

I haven't played fn much is it heavier to run than rivals?

[gentle kestrel]

they honestly run about the same in my experience

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-nuh-uh-meow-sniff-incorrect-gif-11442321997337963097

[tired bear]

it runs on a fkn phone

[gentle kestrel]

it does open on the switch 1 as well

[wet scroll]

I have an i5 9400 , i dont think thats an upgrade, and i want an upgrade mainly because i want to have m.2 ssd, my current mb doesnt

[sly halo]

I get around 350 fps on rivals but my cpu heats up to like 80c the fans dont speed up on auto i gotta manually do it

[gentle kestrel]

like 400p 20 but it plays

[hexed tapir]

I3 12100f would be a huge upgrade ngl

[tidal geyser]

you can do a m.2 ssd in your current motherboard

[wet scroll]

it doesnt have the slots.

No m.2 slot

So if ill upgrade the mb, might upgrafe the cpu too

[gentle kestrel]

id take a 14600k over a 12100f just to have the igpu and decent core count

[tidal geyser]

no you can put in a m.2

[tidal geyser]

what motherboard

[wet scroll]

Does that guve full speed, i have 2 of those slots

[gentle kestrel]

you’d have to look at the diagram for your board

but it’s probably 4 lanes

[kindred halo]

These is quite a nice looking laptop interior tbh

[tidal geyser]

full speed?

[hexed tapir]

The i3 12100f is 40% faster in single and multi core

[tidal geyser]

you are not going to see a difference in almost anything from x1 to x4

[gentle kestrel]

what

[tidal geyser]

now do 12100f vs 14600k

[tidal geyser]

yes

[wet scroll]

I see, what abt an amd option?

[tidal geyser]

i dono uh 8400f?

[wet scroll]

The price diffrence is huge for k cards here

[wet scroll]

Is that am4?

[tidal geyser]

xd

[kindred halo]

AM5

8400F is AM5

[gentle kestrel]

isn’t that the cut down ones

[kindred halo]

It's a budget AM5

[wet scroll]

There is this really nice am4 mb for cheap

[kindred halo]

Comparable to i5 13400/14400

[wet scroll]

Yeah LMAOAOA

[tidal geyser]

no

well

[hexed tapir]

Better then most am4 cpus for gaming

[wet scroll]

Its a little weaker no?

[kindred halo]

Yes and no

[gentle kestrel]

which is the one with half the lanes then

[kindred halo]

8400F

[tidal geyser]

due to the way more cache on the 5600 its still way better in most games

[wet scroll]

R5 5600 is pretty cheap here yes

[kindred halo]

7400F has 24 usable lanes

[tidal geyser]

seeeeeeeeeeeeee

[wet scroll]

Ix the diff betqeen r5 5600 and 5600x big

[tidal geyser]

its the same cpu

[hexed tapir]

12100 > r5 5500 any day

[gentle kestrel]

i think the non x comes with a box cooler

[wet scroll]

Oh, whats the x for

[tidal geyser]

money

[kindred halo]

Sometimes cheaper too

[tidal geyser]

both come with cooler

[hexed tapir]

Slight higher clock speeds

[azure topaz]

meow

[tidal geyser]

bt no major performance difference

[gentle kestrel]

i thought they did away with box coolers for zen 3

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smacking-other-cat-cat-cat-smack-cat-swat-gif-10347810988835752163

[gentle kestrel]

guess just 7 and up then

[tidal geyser]

nop

[tidal geyser]

everything but the X gets a boxed cooler

[hexed tapir]

They just used the shitty all aluminum cooler with no copper slug in it

[wet scroll]

Its only 20 bucks cheaper than i5 14400f 😭

[tidal geyser]

ryzen 7 and above get the prism anything under gets the stealth

[wet scroll]

Mranwhile the i7 14th gen comes with a dookie cooler 💔

[quick stag]

its over for me 😭

[agile topaz]

croikey

[hexed tapir]

The difference between the 3600x and non x was the slightly higher clock speed and the X getting the copper core cooler now it's just the slightly higher clock speeds

[wet scroll]

SEVENTY FOUR?!?!?!

[quick stag]

yes

i was trying to cool my room

[gentle kestrel]

running the box cooler on a 253w part is kinda wild anyway

[quick stag]

but forgot it was a humidifier too

[tidal geyser]

physics

no wait

[hexed tapir]

The box cooler only comes on like 65watt cpus

[tidal geyser]

yes physics

hotter air can hold more water

[wet scroll]

My fuckass cousin got a i7 14th gen and its been 6 months and he fidnt get a proper cooler, he got also a rx 7800xt and 32gb ddr5 AND ALL THAT MF PLAYS IS GENSHIN

[tidal geyser]

when you cool mo humidity

[gentle kestrel]

based

[agile topaz]

Wtf is he using allat for

[tidal geyser]

well the end

[gentle kestrel]

i use my 4070 and 7800x3d to play ffxiv 90% of the time

would run fine on a 1060 probably

[agile topaz]

Genshin with 8k graphics?

[wet scroll]

Hes playing on a 1080p 60fps monitor

[agile topaz]

Oh my god.

[wet scroll]

I want to throq him off a cliff

[gentle kestrel]

genshin has a 60fps cap too by default

[tired bear]

rip you

[wet scroll]

You can bypass it with a little tjimg

[gentle kestrel]

you can but i never used it

[wet scroll]

Zenless way better

[agile topaz]

bro is dying

[gentle kestrel]

i uninstalled hsr and never went back to another one

[quick stag]

yes

[wet scroll]

I been playing hsr since release w no breaks

[quick stag]

i'm laying on the stone floor in the living room cause my bedroom is unhabitable

[tired bear]

chillin

[wet scroll]

@tidal geyser btw the diff between i3 12th gen and i5 14th here is 60 usd only

[hexed tapir]

It's been 18c in my room 😎

[hexed tapir]

Is AliExpress a option for you

[tawdry zinc]

I can't find the Corsair RM1000 on the Cultist PSU Tier list. (RM non -x, -e, -i)

The only mention of RM products does not include the 1000W model. Is it still A-tier?

[tidal geyser]

yes

[tawdry zinc]

Great, thanks

[livid fern]

Psu

[livid fern]

Its outdated

[tidal geyser]

aaaaa

[livid fern]

But

[tidal geyser]

ngl i was about to ask ya

[tawdry zinc]

Oh, is it a recent model?

[tidal geyser]

mostly ping to ask why it no there

[livid fern]

Rm1000 is 2014 psu

[livid fern]

no

[tidal geyser]

what yellow text

[unkempt grove]

https://github.com/ledoge/dwm_lut does this fry your monitor?

[tawdry zinc]

Ah, yeah I thought it looked old. I'm a bit skeptic on buying a second hand PSU that old

[tidal geyser]

price

[tawdry zinc]

Do you know the release year of the RM1000x off the topofurhead?

[tawdry zinc]

€50

[tidal geyser]

horrible

[tawdry zinc]

€100 for the RM1000x

[tidal geyser]

a 650w is like that

[livid fern]

2024
2021
2018

Send me the pic of the psu 🙂 i could identify it

[tawdry zinc]

It was a couple years ago when I was shopping new, but now the same psu's are surprisingly more expensive

[livid fern]

Rm1000 has some serious issues anyway. Would be like B/B- at most with a quick look

[tidal geyser]

aaaa

[tidal geyser]

what are the rest of your specs

[livid fern]

By our metholodogy its C

Due ripple is over 100mV on 12v rail and 3.3v is ass

And fails one test even

[tidal geyser]

tbf 3.3v back then was not really used for anything

[tawdry zinc]

excuse me, my phone died

[tidal geyser]

omg

I can't find the Corsair RM1000 on the Cultist PSU Tier list. (RM non -x, -e, -i)

The only mention of RM products does not include the 1000W model. Is it still A-tier?

[tidal geyser]

what is on the end there

also does it even come with the cables

[livid fern]

2018 or 2015

[tawdry zinc]

yes it looks complete, there's a couple more pictures, I trust this seller a lot more than the RM1000 one too, purely based on neat repackaging

[tawdry zinc]

thank you

worth €100?

[tidal geyser]

what specs are you pairing it with

[tidal geyser]

that is more like new pricing

not forthat psu but for PSUs around there

[livid fern]

I need clear pic of this

[tired bear]

https://tenor.com/view/enhance-gif-10953787

[tawdry zinc]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/MN94TY this. The only reason I'm buying a PSU is I am building a NAS that needs only a PSU and HDD rn. I don't want to buy a shitty low wattage PSU if I can buy a big PSU that'll carry my main PC to its next upgrade

[tidal geyser]

you can do that on a 650w

[tawdry zinc]

that's the clearest one included unfortunately

[livid fern]

Its 2015 model

Its A+

[tawdry zinc]

yep, when I bought the 750 years ago it was the same price as 650, and I didn't know what GPU I was gonna end up with

[tawdry zinc]

does that make it worth €100 second hand?

[tidal geyser]

a NAS without a gpu is like 200w even with a good few HDDs

[wet scroll]

The import tax and shipping makes it even more expensivr than if i id buy it normally

[tawdry zinc]

yeah, I'm not planning to add a GPU yet, have no use for it

[tawdry zinc]

I figured it'd be difficult to find a high quality 200-300W PSU, compared to finding a good 1000W+

[gritty charm]

I just got the last 5060 ti 16 GB card that was under $500 at my local Micro Center

[tidal geyser]

i say ya can do it on dat, tbh i would just get some 550w c tier

[wet scroll]

Yiu can find good 450-550w ones

[wet scroll]

Congrats :3

[tawdry zinc]

yeah so since the 450W PSUs I can find are around the same €50 as the RM1000 I see secondhand, it might be worth getting that instead

[gritty charm]

It's more than what I wanted to spend on a GPU. But having 8gb of Vram doesn't sit right with me

[north moon]

help me https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1383192670922342430

[tawdry zinc]

The other PSU I own is 550W, and I don't trust it to power my 7900XT once it's passed down

[wet scroll]

Yeah 16gb is gonna hrlp you futureproof for triple As

[gritty charm]

That's why I caved

[tidal geyser]

why not trust it for the NAS

[gritty charm]

Technically I have another gaming computer so I don't really need this one. But this one it's in a quieter environment at my house

[wet scroll]

A 550 w a 7900 is like using a 55cc bike to tow a semi

[tidal geyser]

i would rather take a new lower tier PSU rather then a used higher end PSU for tbh anything

[wet scroll]

💔 2 pcs

[gritty charm]

Once is a used Dell optiplex 7080. It's not that fancy

[wet scroll]

Last time i went for used higher my gpu diec

[wet scroll]

Ohhhh fair

[tidal geyser]

soooo maybe go new?

[wet scroll]

I learned my lesson yes

[gritty charm]

The object is that I just put the 5060 ti in it and install my new psu and I'm set

[left dove]

Smelly

All y'all

STINKY.

[tawdry zinc]

main PC: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/MN94TY
secondary PC: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/CRmWC8
NAS so far: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/2wDLxg

[tidal geyser]

secondary pc?

[copper wigeon]

Hello guys. Is the 8700g still the best apu on the market from amd?

[wet scroll]

Isnt the 5060 like 150w? Whyd you need a new psu

[tidal geyser]

on desktop yea

[copper wigeon]

I read something about the 8060s but I do t really know what it even is.

[north moon]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1383192670922342430

[tidal geyser]

ai max 395+

[tawdry zinc]

yes it is exactly the plan to put the 550W PSU inside the NAS, and buy a good PSU for one of the other PCs, but I thought it'd be wasteful not to then factor in an upgrade, considering the parts and PSUs I have now.

[tidal geyser]

AMD Ryzen™ Al Max+ 395

[copper wigeon]

Oh I see.

Laptop hardware?

[tidal geyser]

Radeon 8060S Graphics

[tawdry zinc]

used for my gf to play windows games on her macbook through parsec, and hers when she's moving in this summer

[tidal geyser]

https://www.gmktec.com/products/amd-ryzen™-ai-max-395-evo-x2-ai-mini-pc

[copper wigeon]

Ty

[tidal geyser]

budget gaming

[hasty warren]

I just swapped 3 ssd's using dd (one of them contains windows+linux)
||(Copied 2nd to empty 3rd, copied 1st to 2nd)||
dd worked amazingly flawlessly, my OSes had zero idea, they just worked as if nothing happened

[tawdry zinc]

@tidal geyser I forgot to use reply, thoughts on this tho?

[tidal geyser]

yea

[hasty warren]

dd even worked much better than gparted's partition copy method (that triggered windows to fs check + some files getting changed)

[agile topaz]

Thank you guys for recommending me parts here btw, this thing is incredible

I never thought it possible to run max settings with raytracing, and not even need frame gen to get over 75fps

75 is specific as hell but its because my monitor that actually works at 1440p 240hz arrives tomorrow

[supple basin]

Is a regular 2080 good for $175 these days

[agile topaz]

Id think so, the thing usually sells for a bit more

[supple basin]

It should be like lil more power hungry 4060 without the newer features I think

[agile topaz]

You know I didnt expect the kind of efficiency in heat that Im getting

Under heavy load, neither the CPU or GPU get up to 70, and they very quickly drop to mid-low 40s, I didn't think they cared that much

[gritty charm]

I need the PCI cables that aren't on the 260 watt PSU that it came with. I upgraded to the 500 watt version

[grizzled frost]

260w wouldn't even be sufficient for a 5060 anyways

[tidal geyser]

naaa it would be fineeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[grizzled frost]

175w 12v rail, 150w GPU, should be fine!!!

[tidal geyser]

wait wat 175w 12v rail

[brazen glen]

Suggested PSU is 300w for a 5060, a 260w PSU with an 8 pin cable should be good to go

[grizzled frost]

just guessing based on the wattage

[tidal geyser]

na

[brazen glen]

Oh if it’s got that skimpy a 12v rail no way

[grizzled frost]

i don't even know what the exact model even was

[brazen glen]

Hard to say that’d be right, it’s not a hard and fast formula

[grizzled frost]

but they already upgraded the PSU anyways

[tidal geyser]

anyhow been researching phones, im 100% getting a CMF phone 2 pro

[brazen glen]

It might be 90% 12v with the last bit split between 5.5 and 3v

[tidal geyser]

it got everything you want but for 300$

[grizzled frost]

i wouldn't trust an atx 260w psu anyways, sounds like a bomb or ancient (probably a bomb too)

[tidal geyser]

OEM

[brazen glen]

Or a shitty OEM thing

[tidal geyser]

OEM ones tend to be like plat or gold and are MADE to take abuse

[supple basin]

If it's like delta OEM it's probably really good lol

[grizzled frost]

True, they just look like a bomb

[tidal geyser]

ikr feels like it but na its fine

they are built to spec and no more

[supple basin]

There those lower wattage ones dell used in their older optiplexes that were excellent excellent psus

[livid fern]

Psu

[tidal geyser]

na

[livid fern]

[quick stag]

how does one survive this

[tidal geyser]

water

[ripe spire]

the zotac zone 2 is something that would interest me

[random gyro]

#tech-chat-1 message it also feels like everyone on that app is part of the lgbtq123+ community

[full warren]

most people are but who cares

[idle vessel]

this is kind of a dumb criticism because he’s selling it to everyone and not just children

[tidal geyser]

its mostly children that pay also he literally has some parental guide shit

[idle vessel]

that’s like saying ltt is selling a screwdriver for $70 to children even though it is not just children

[azure topaz]

its dumb because hes selling it as a service that expensive at all

[idle vessel]

i agree that it’s insane to pay for a pcpp list and i also do not really like ztt but that’s just a really bad criticism

[azure topaz]

3 minutes to take a part list lmao

it doesnt matter the target audience it matters that its even posted

its peak greed

he probably has pre saved parts lists even lmao

anyone who does that is a bad person in my book

[tidal geyser]

omg its all out of stock

[azure topaz]

a screwdriver isnt unreasonable for 70$ especially if its a decent one

[tidal geyser]

and im doing this shit for free

[azure topaz]

the essence of a computer build should be free

[tidal geyser]

its a thing you buy once for your entire life most times

[idle vessel]

it’s just a comparison

[azure topaz]

a stupid one

😭

its literally like charging your mom or something to write her shopping list

[tidal geyser]

ltt does not have the full parental solution to buying a screw driver

[azure topaz]

not charging your mom to go get the shit off the list, just creating it

[idle vessel]

there’s not really a better one to give, and it gets the point across that it’s not marketed specifically towards children lol

i agree it’s scummy but being “towards children” is a bad criticism

[azure topaz]

when its called "full parent solution" i could get why someone would say he targets children

[idle vessel]

it’s targeting parents

[tidal geyser]

of what

[azure topaz]

its targeting kids so they go tell their parents lmao

[idle vessel]

still targeting the parents

[azure topaz]

whos going to see a PC ad? kids who watch PC shit on youtube? or your mom who doesnt go on youtube at all

logic

[tidal geyser]

its meant to be a thing where kids send their parents the site and parents see that shit

[idle vessel]

it’s also logic that the parents are being targeted but sure

[idle vessel]

yah to target the parents

[tidal geyser]

but who got recommended the website

[idle vessel]

the kid who then tells the parent

[azure topaz]

...

[idle vessel]

so the parent is being targeted

[azure topaz]

???

[tidal geyser]

and that kid got it from who

[azure topaz]

you just said the kid was targeted though lmao

[idle vessel]

this is not that complex man

[tidal geyser]

ZTT

[idle vessel]

??? what are you talking about

i’m saying the criticism that he’s targeting children is wrong and bad because he Isn’t

that’s what i’ve been saying the entire time

[azure topaz]

who buys toys for children? parents. are the ads for toys marketed toward your parents?

[idle vessel]

did you get me confused with sim or something

[azure topaz]

its literally the same scenario

[idle vessel]

the parent who is targeted

[tidal geyser]

and they saw the site from ztt

[tidal geyser]

OMG

[idle vessel]

this argument is so stupid

[azure topaz]

the kids see the ad and go "omg mommy i want it"

[tidal geyser]

then mommy sees parental guide

[azure topaz]

this is the same scenario

[idle vessel]

maybe this is opinion, but in my eyes the parent is being targeted there, not the kid

parent pays

even if the kid was being targeted, still a bad criticism as Not just children watch his content

[azure topaz]

if the kid didnt exist the parent wouldnt buy it

so the ad is targeted towards kids

its literally that simple

[azure topaz]

😭

[idle vessel]

it’s really not

[azure topaz]

what do you mean its not

[idle vessel]

i have tried explaining my pov but idk man

[azure topaz]

are you telling me someone without any kids is going to buy the parental list

...

....

[idle vessel]

the kid is not paying for it, they are being used to advertise towards the parent

[tidal geyser]

its not like they have a normal list

[azure topaz]

EXACTLY

[idle vessel]

like this is the wordt argument ever

[azure topaz]

i dont understand how you dont get this

[idle vessel]

the kid is the ad

[azure topaz]

the kid is who gets the person to spend the money in the first place

[idle vessel]

i don’t “don’t get it” i have a different opinion to you lmfao

[azure topaz]

so they are the target

[idle vessel]

your opinion is not objective

[azure topaz]

this isnt an opinionated scenario

[idle vessel]

this is definitely an opinionated scenario

[tidal geyser]

ok to get back to the start of what you are saying (this is kind of a dumb criticism because he’s selling it to everyone and not just children)

[idle vessel]

it can be taken in 2 ways

[azure topaz]

if the kid didnt exist, the non-parent wouldnt have a reason to buy the parental solution

[idle vessel]

yes that’s what i’m saying

[azure topaz]

is this not true

[idle vessel]

thank you

[idle vessel]

dude i do not give a shit i’m sorry

[azure topaz]

then stop talking about it

[idle vessel]

this is not the point i’m making at all

[idle vessel]

i TRIED brother

[azure topaz]

thats the pooint ive been making this entire time

[tidal geyser]

but the parental guide is targeting the child

[azure topaz]

yes

[tidal geyser]

as the child is the one that sees ZTT talk about it on tik tok

[idle vessel]

i’m gonna do something else man this is like speaking to a wall

[azure topaz]

when you have something specifically called "the parent solution" you are marketing toward children

[idle vessel]

in my opinion the child is being used as the marketing towards the parent in order for them to buy it

surely you can understand my point of view

like it can’t be that difficult

[azure topaz]

no because your point of view doesnt make any sense

how does the child know about the product?

because their favorite tech youtuber told them

[tidal geyser]

(this is kind of a dumb criticism because he’s selling it to everyone and not just children)

he is selling it to the child

[azure topaz]

if their favorite tech youtuber told them would they know about the product

[idle vessel]

watch ztt video and then get parent to buy it

advertising is getting someone to buy something

super complex stuff man

[tidal geyser]

you think selling means the child HAS to buy it with their own money?

[azure topaz]

no its not 😭