tech-chat-1

[stray cairn]

AI uses FP32 or 16 or 8 mostly, which most accelerators were optimize to do its best at

[solar geode]

no you cant have biometrics without a fallback

say your sensors stop working. youd be locked out completely

[stray cairn]

FP64 is rarely used unless if you're doing something mission critical

[fallen sky]

[stray cairn]

But for basic engineering, FP32 is enough

[solar geode]

thats how it is for every device in existence

[sick warren]

Didn’t over 100 9800x3ds die from melting issues? I saw it on Reddit all the guys just formed on one chat

[true stirrup]

Fair, that might struggle a bit

[tidal geyser]

what??

[warped burrow]

its was mobo issue asrock one.. not the cpu

[winter lantern]

Yeah but they're paid to make them so its fine

[tidal geyser]

melting

[solar geode]

they were installed improperly

[warped burrow]

asrock frying amds issue

[winter lantern]

All problems are user error

Its user error to install new drivers when a game requires them

[solar geode]

unless its a problem that everyone is experiencing

[tidal geyser]

did they also not just start working after using qflash and such

[sick warren]

That’s impossible they can’t have that many people with the same problem

[winter lantern]

Not everyone faces driver issues

[tidal geyser]

i think i have only seen like 3 melted cpus and most of that was user error

[winter lantern]

But its only a software thing

[sick warren]

It’s not that hard to mess up a cpu installation after watching tech videos for a week

[tidal geyser]

(anyone with modern nvidia drivers)

[winter lantern]

Nah some people dont

[solar geode]

cant believe nvidia drivers are more unstable that amds now

what a time we live in lmao

[true stirrup]

Some guy legit forced his CPU into the socket at an angle

[warped burrow]

nah the fried one are fried afaik

[winter lantern]

Atleast they fix them

[tidal geyser]

backwards

[sick warren]

wtf

[fallen sky]

Uh oh. Now I don’t have a cursor at all on the main Home Screen 💔💔😭

[solar geode]

havent seen many issues with amd cards recently. mine has been running perfectly.

[winter lantern]

(Because they cause major problems)

[sick warren]

Like upside down?

[solar geode]

updates. press windows key + i for settings then tab down to windows update

[true stirrup]

That as well yes

[sick warren]

That’s really dumb

[true stirrup]

So don't underestimate how dumb mistakes people can make

[winter lantern]

I imagine they trying to put it in like this
🔷 when its supposed to be like 🟦

[sick warren]

Ok but I don’t think that problem occurred with the melting 9800x3d

[solar geode]

it did

it wasnt the only reason. but it did

[sick warren]

What the freak man

[solar geode]

it was also asrock not fully testing their boards with the chip

[sick warren]

Did they even care to watch a video let alone look at an image

[stray cairn]

Imagine using consumer hardware (or updating your drivers in general)

[sick warren]

And it was a $400 cpu

[iron glen]

is an intel pentium considered e waste?

[sick warren]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[tidal geyser]

yes

[winter lantern]

Survival of the fittest ahh

[solar geode]

i would be out of a job if people actually researched how to do something before bunging it up

[iron glen]

sweet
also hi sim

[sick warren]

If it was found in waste yeah

[stray cairn]

I got Titan Pascal that still runs ancient CUDA

[iron glen]

i don't think thats how it works

[solar geode]

RIP titan

[sick warren]

But e waste

[solar geode]

sorely missed

[stray cairn]

We constantly update our V100’s and A100’s tho

[winter lantern]

IT supports after telling them how to fix and so they dont need to bring it in so they bring it in anyways so they press a few keys and get 50$

[stray cairn]

But the A100 machine got some problems that requires a restart.

[iron glen]

so?
industrial waste doesn't have to be found in waste to be industrial waste

for ex:
chocolate left over from making a snickers bar is also industrial waste

[sick warren]

Yeah ur right because I know what that means

[sick warren]

Yea if it’s burnt or just inedible

I think

[stray cairn]

Most of HPC industry waste ended up on Ebay

[sick warren]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-flightreacts-tongue-tongue-laugh-gif-13724048537815479089

[iron glen]

no, it can just be regular chocolate that didn't make it on the candy

[stray cairn]

I should buy some 80GB A100’s from Ebay for fun

[fallen sky]

There might be SOME updates

Ts ain’t even it there are still tons more

[solar geode]

tickles my brain the funny way

[solar geode]

wait until you check advanced options

[sick warren]

Did you use Fortnite tweaks or something bro

[solar geode]

new install

[fallen sky]

I think I wasted more time than manually uninstalling all bloatware

😂

[solar geode]

this would be cleaner tho

[fallen sky]

I guess

Why do companies make laptops with bad cooling systems :(

Most of the vents are on the bottom

Where you have a half inch of space between the ground or table and the bottom of laptop

[sick warren]

Because they are portable and they don’t want to make laptops thick

I like thick laptops though the MSI raider series is dope

[fallen sky]

I don’t mind SOME chonk

[solar geode]

those are for intake

the exhaust is on the back

[bronze pewter]

cozy setup or what?

[sick warren]

I want it drink water now

[solar geode]

what i wish mine was

the monitors not being together are pissing me off tho

[iron glen]

not a fan of the blue but yeah, looks dope

[sick warren]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-druski-dance-dance-ts-pmo-gif-2878196207953698978

[fallen sky]

I don’t see any on the back 🤔

[bronze pewter]

dw i made them higher and aligned them this is just a pic from a few days ago

[solar geode]

model number pls

[sick warren]

Is there a better atx compact case than the cooler master qube 500 flat pack

[solar geode]

ah ok thank god

[solar geode]

asus ap201

oh full size atx?

[sick warren]

I think that’s matx

[solar geode]

hmm. i like my o11S

[fallen sky]

Model: SF16-51T-76TG

SKU: 6598823

[sick warren]

Eatx is definetley not compact

[solar geode]

shit best buy number time to log into work

[stray cairn]

Not all people are like you

[solar geode]

fml

[sick warren]

Dude phanteks enthoo why did you have to be full tower😭

[fallen sky]

😂

[solar geode]

so when you close it, you dont see any vents?

[sick warren]

The strat is just get a MacBook and a gaming pc

Or a Lenovo thinkpad

[gloomy sleet]

get a linux laptop

[solar geode]

because it looks like there are

[solar geode]

any windows x86 laptop can be a linux laptop

so point moot

[gloomy sleet]

yeah

[swift moss]

an 18650 holder cant fit in 80mm... shame

[solar geode]

and macbook are useless

[gloomy sleet]

get a laptop you install linux on

[fallen sky]

Ohhhhhhh there’s a reason I have vision problems

[solar geode]

lol youre fine

[sick warren]

Can I run an mc smp on a raspberry pi

[swift moss]

a macbook?

smh 😭

[solar geode]

depends on the hardware you attach to it

[gloomy sleet]

no

[solar geode]

but you definitely can

[swift moss]

i mean why not

[sick warren]

I’ll attatch a Minecraft server to it

[gloomy sleet]

effort

[solar geode]

:/

[gloomy sleet]

just get a pc laptop

[solar geode]

thats software

[swift moss]

this pisses me off

this should be 65mm but the holder is MASSIVE

[sick warren]

What about a dell optiplex mini form factor

[swift moss]

maybe i design my own 3d printed holder lol

[sick warren]

Those slim things

[solar geode]

check how much memory it has

[sick warren]

4gb is enough right?

[solar geode]

if you plan on having a large map with a lot of players id recommend around 16gb of memory

because remember, you have to have everything that players see rendered at once

[sick warren]

And a 7400t or something should be fine?

[solar geode]

so if it cant handle your lone ass playing singleplayer, its not gonna handle a server

[sick warren]

That’s so mean 🥀

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-tenno-goodbye-goodbye-chat-volt-gif-26796036

[solar geode]

whomp

[untold dragon]

goodbye tenno

[winter lantern]

Did yall know they changed the packaging for batteries

[fallen sky]

Yeah these updates are gonna take a few 🙏

[winter lantern]

Crazy

[fallen sky]

Whattttttt

[winter lantern]

They aint using plastic

[solar geode]

fucking finally

it should've been like this from the very beginning

[winter lantern]

Well we needed to learn what the batteries looked like

[solar geode]

well now they can PRINT AN IMAGE onto the packaging

[peak knot]

i can understand for common cell types

seeing the non common ones (button cell mostly) is also good

[tidal geyser]

OMG just hit such a good shot

[solar geode]

CLIP IT

i wanna see

[tidal geyser]

nah

[solar geode]

:(

[silent scarab]

I read that the start menu/taskbar in windows 11 is build with react native and this version is super buggy?

[solar geode]

its built with React Native, but it is built into windows as a native component

the start menu/taskbar is tied directly with file explorer

[silent scarab]

People were complaining about performance/bugs and listing that as a reason.

[solar geode]

they both use the same framework. all thats different is how it looks

[untold dragon]

in my opinion keep 10 as long as you can and wait for windows 12

[solar geode]

my only complaint with win11 is the amount of bloat and too much focus on adding new things than making whats already there function better

[tidal geyser]

4 months

[solar geode]

phone link is still an inconsistent piece of shit

[silent scarab]

How long has 11 been out?

[solar geode]

but when it works its really convenient

[solar geode]

5 years

[tidal geyser]

what 4-5 years now

[silent scarab]

What is phone link? How long for 10?

[tidal geyser]

yeah 2021

[solar geode]

phone link is what allows windows pcs to comunicate with your phone for calls, texts, notifications, etc

[untold dragon]

thats how long microsoft says

[solar geode]

win10 will reach end of life in october

[tidal geyser]

until you need to pay to not get malware

[quasi field]

Is possible to get PhysX on 5000 series

[solar geode]

i wish KDE Connect actually worked when i wanted it to or else i would've switched to linux a long time ago

[tidal geyser]

it has physx

[valid laurel]

I’m reinstalling macOS but it’s stuck on 0 seconds

[solar geode]

i loved fedora on my framework

[quasi field]

They fixed it 32bit

[tidal geyser]

(64bit)

[quasi field]

bruh

[solar geode]

why mavericks

[tidal geyser]

fixed what

[quasi field]

32bit physX

[tidal geyser]

physx 32 bit is a hardware level thingy

[valid laurel]

I didn’t choose it

It does it automatically

[tidal geyser]

cant just fix it they would need to make a new gpu for that

[boreal vine]

likely the default OS the machine ships with

[solar geode]

how long has it been on that screen

[quasi field]

I finished my PC

[tidal geyser]

xd

[solar geode]

theyre gonna have a fun time trying to get to latest supported

[boreal vine]

when you're recovering it has a default stock image of the OS to restore to

[silent scarab]

How long has 10 been out.

[tidal geyser]

i hope that is not real

[boreal vine]

They're going to have fun when it starts / wants to connect to apple servers 😭

[solar geode]

if you use cmd + shift + r itll load internet recovery

[tidal geyser]

since 2015

[quasi field]

The gpu?

[solar geode]

almost a decade

[tidal geyser]

just get a gt 1030

[quasi field]

Grr

[tidal geyser]

i can see the layer lines from here

[boreal vine]

do not do this.

[valid laurel]

Ages

[quasi field]

hmmm how about this one

[solar geode]

hey it works for me when its not older than me

[boreal vine]

anything below mojave has issues with internet recovery

also mavericks was like 2008 era mac

[solar geode]

i love being unable to fix shit just because its software was archaic for its time

[valid laurel]

This is a 2013 iMac

[boreal vine]

the software isn't archaic lmao

[valid laurel]

I was trying to factory reset it so I could sell it

[solar geode]

being unable to reset a device without either a working internet connection or the patience of an owl just to get a device working after having half of its storage being taken up by system files is not something an efficient piece of software would do

i should be able to install macOS to an external media, boot to it, wipe my drive, and reinstall it without issue.

OR

replace my failing drive because thats almost always the first thing to go

[quasi field]

Here’s it at a better angle

[valid laurel]

I’m selling it so I have some extra cash for some stuff as 1 I’ll be getting an m4 pro 14 inch MacBook Pro to replace the current Mac, but I’ll also be getting either a 5080 or 5090 pc

[solar geode]

its better off getting recycled. i cant think of a reason to have an old iMac like that

it has no support for anything needed to use the internet today

[valid laurel]

Or just be able to factory reset it like any other device with a button in settings

[solar geode]

that was only just recently added with i think monterrey

or was it ventura

[valid laurel]

It’s from 2013 and it’s not bad, I’m just getting something better, also it’ll be on marketplace so most a parent is buying it for a kid

[solar geode]

i dont think its version of safari will be able to load google

[tidal geyser]

xd

[valid laurel]

Yes but I mean why was it not already like that it was on Catalina

[solar geode]

because they cant imagine their shit having problems

which is all that they have nowadays

[junior valve]

is that a 5090 or 5080

[valid laurel]

Or people selling it, or my computer having a fucking pop up which I could not get rid of saying something about a file I could not find

[quasi field]

what do you think

[junior valve]

5070

[valid laurel]

Beautiful

[quasi field]

I have one of those too

[junior valve]

they all look the same

[quasi field]

AYYY YO

[solar geode]

i hate macs

[valid laurel]

I’ll hopefully be getting either 5080 or 5090 depending on how much money I’m able to get

[solar geode]

every time i see one at work i dread having to work on them

[junior valve]

1000$ on red

[valid laurel]

They’re good if you need them for something specific that’s why I’m getting a MacBook Pro so then it’s portable for university and able to use it in bed or when I feel like being on my desk I could dock it

[solar geode]

get an asus pro art if you need that much power

cheaper and lighter

[untold dragon]

and if you want to upgrade your laptop down the line get a framework

[solar geode]

even better

just no dGPU in the 13in

[valid laurel]

I found a good deal with the mobile providers called SKY (I’m from England) which I got my iPad Pro m4 13 inch, and plus I have an iPhone and iPad so I have a little bit of an ecosystem plus with macs there’s no beating them when it comes to being powerfull but also having go teir battery life

[solar geode]

which is fine for me. i love mine

[valid laurel]

I don’t need a dGPU

[solar geode]

same can be said for the snapdragon laptops. my brother gets 18hrs easily with his galaxy book4 edge

and it was $900

[valid laurel]

Yh but with those processors there can be problems with software/app support

[solar geode]

same with macs. they run on ARM as well

and support for ARM has expanded vastly since their release

especially with windows' compatibility layer

[valid laurel]

Yes but they’re also on their own os and software so there isn’t many problems

[solar geode]

i can name lots of problems with their software. they have so many bugs now its ridiculous

apps locking up, UI hangs, apps disappearing inexplicably, system files STILL filling up storage over time with no fix other than a full reset.

[rigid fjord]

windows for arm will never be as good as macos for arm

[solar geode]

im not saying theyre on equal levels but you gotta admit its gotten so much better since those laptop launches

[valid laurel]

Exactly

[valid laurel]

Just run Linux lol

[solar geode]

thats the plan

eventually

[rigid fjord]

the only downside to macbooks is that if the cpu dies, it takes out the ssd with it

[solar geode]

unity on linux is kind of a dumpster fire, but thats more unity's fault than anything

[valid laurel]

What one u going with?

[solar geode]

i loved fedora but i spent more time with arch. its gonna depend on what i need

[valid laurel]

Well it’ll be the latest m4 pro plus I’ll be getting it brand new, so if that happens any time soon then I’ll be very annoyed

[solar geode]

i like gnome as a desktop environment but to make it look nice i needed too many plugins. and KDE is too windows like for me

[valid laurel]

What about cinema 4d?

[solar geode]

ive had a lot of defective macbooks come in recently. its not looking good rn

[rigid fjord]

for macbooks the ssd controller is on the cpu

[solar geode]

havent tried that yet but its gonna be hard to convert my entire team to that

[valid laurel]

Fair

[solar geode]

and its not a full game engine

just a modeling software. i can just use blender

[abstract wigeon]

your whole team is on linux?

[solar geode]

no

[abstract wigeon]

ah

[solar geode]

thats why im saying itll be hard to move them

[rigid fjord]

and tbh, if you go windows laptop, either you go with the likes of a zenbook or thinkpad, or to something like a legion 5

[gilded harness]

yeah im going to trade ts for 5600 cuz i cant do anything with it

[valid laurel]

See I’m not a team, I’m just one person who’s going to be doing animation in university starting September, but next week I’ll be in Greece

[gilded harness]

$60 bargain i think

[solar geode]

most of them are on windows, so we have unity and plastic SCM set up

[solar geode]

the zenbook a14 is a sexy laptop...

[quasi field]

Building someone’s computer; not to bad 7700X with a 5070Fe (msrp… I couldn’t get a 9070XT)

[solar geode]

if i didnt know about framework i would have one of those instantly

[tidal geyser]

just get ready when they have major issues with the drivers'

[rigid fjord]

a dgpu is really helpful when it comes to rendering for animations/3d renders

[valid laurel]

Also I’m only getting Mac as a laptop, like I said I will be getting and using a windows desktop pc as my daily driver, it’ll either be a 5080 or 5090 with a ryzen 9 9950x3D

[quasi field]

They pretty tech savvy

[valid laurel]

Mostly doing 2d

[solar geode]

AHHHH

[tidal geyser]

tech savy enough to make their own nvidia drivers?

[solar geode]

I WANT IT

[tidal geyser]

but tbf then they will not bother you

[quasi field]

huh?

Wym own NVIDIA drivers?

[valid laurel]

Specs? And what is that model?

[untold dragon]

eww no numpad

[rigid fjord]

they're a pain but have advantages of being able to completely swap out the mainboard and being able to make a custom setup with

[quasi field]

Slim boy

[tidal geyser]

there is not a single truly known stable rtx 5000 drivers well or 2025 driver

[solar geode]

Asus Zenbook a14

[quasi field]

I thought they just made them stable?

[solar geode]

i love my 13in. im glad i got my 7640u before they stopped shipping to the states

[rigid fjord]

yeah, no, get one with an ai cpu inside

[solar geode]

its a 14in

[quasi field]

No gpu tho

[rigid fjord]

amd r5 7640u?

[quasi field]

How much is it?

[solar geode]

ye

[valid laurel]

Again I personally would not get that because of the cpu and storage capacity

[quasi field]

512gb is rough

[valid laurel]

Yh

[rigid fjord]

decent cpu, and a fairly good igpu on it, it would be better if it was the 7840u tbh

[quasi field]

Especially if it’s not expandable

[solar geode]

as a purely comuter laptop with decent rendering capabilities its awesome. the storage sucks balls but its better than macs charing 1300 for 256gb

[valid laurel]

Need at least a terabyte

[quasi field]

Wild shit

[rigid fjord]

you could swap the ssd out on it tbh

[quasi field]

When you can get a 512gb usb for 30 quid

[solar geode]

oh wait i did get the 7840u

[valid laurel]

Still, don’t want to have to buy an ssd as soon as I get the thing

[solar geode]

fml i dont even know my laptops specs

for most people its all they need

[untold dragon]

you can get a m2 gen3 ssd 1TB for 45 €
an thats consumer price

[solar geode]

havent had a single one returned that i recommended

[quasi field]

Real

[valid laurel]

Surprising

[solar geode]

1tb is if you have large project files, or have a couple games you like playing, or horde data for some reason

like me. but i have a whole server for that

[rigid fjord]

@solar geode better looking than the zenbook tbh

[solar geode]

i dont like how thick it is

thats what draws me to it. its really thin and light

legions are great laptops tho

[rigid fjord]

even better, the 780m that it has is epic, and tbh the z1e used in some handhelds is a modified version of it

[solar geode]

i was thinking about buying one of the open box rog ally z1's we have and throwing steamOS on it

[rigid fjord]

unlike the zenbook, 2x m'2 slots + 2x sodimm slots

[solar geode]

thats fair. it makes for a much better productivity laptop

[rigid fjord]

do not get a z1, those are based on the 7440u cpu, not as good a performance

[valid laurel]

The only game I would play on MacBook is Minecraft

[solar geode]

im not paying $900 for a handheld im probably hardly gonna use

$400 for smth that will play a light game here and there is much more worth it. if i want to play more demanding games, ill parsec into my desktop at home

and my bad its the z1 extreme

[rigid fjord]

aye, the second slot be hidden here on it, and means an easy 4tb+ extra storage

[undone valley]

Has anyone here gotten anything from minisforum before? I was wanting to get their 7945hx CPU and motherboard to build a PC with, but heard their BIOS update is bad upkeep. Is it that bad that I should not save almost 50% on CPU that is 90% the performance of a ryzen 7950?

[tidal geyser]

what is the use case

[rigid fjord]

you on about the bd790i?

[undone valley]

Primary PC

[tidal geyser]

do you need a cpu like that

[undone valley]

Yes

[undone valley]

Best price to performance and less need to upgrade for a longer time

[tidal geyser]

the cpu even if its mobile is still dual ccd

[tidal geyser]

a 7500f fits into that too

then worst case slap in a 24 core zen 6 am5 cpu

[undone valley]

But 7945hx is significantly better for same price of that cpu

[tidal geyser]

better how

[rigid fjord]

the newer one of this has a 7945hx3d in instead

[undone valley]

Would probably be better and for a longer time in terms of performance. I think at like 75W it reaches 90% 7950x at 170W

[lavish owl]

I'm feeling a bit jealous

[undone valley]

But not worth the higher price

[tidal geyser]

wat

[rigid fjord]

a 7945hx is never worth it to begin with

[tidal geyser]

a r9 3950x is not even close to better compared to a r5 5600 in games

[undone valley]

Why?

[quasi field]

Don’t worry I went through fucking hell… just get a 9070XT

[undone valley]

But I'm not ONLY going to be gaming

[tidal geyser]

fire or drivers?

[tidal geyser]

so i ask yet agin better how for what

[rigid fjord]

the lack of pcie lanes on a laptop cpu makes it not worth it if you're not using this as a basic gaming system

[lavish owl]

I went through he'll to get a 2060 super lol keep in mind this was like 4 months ago

Though God damn that's a nice gpu

[rigid fjord]

in which case, you're better off with a proper am5 setup

[undone valley]

Data base. Spread sheets, big excel sheets and calculations, day processing etc

[tidal geyser]

what do you have now

[undone valley]

It has 16 pcie gen 5 lanes

[undone valley]

Lenovo ThinkPad with a 10th gen Intel U SKU CPU

[tidal geyser]

😐

[rigid fjord]

and?? you're not going to take any advantage of that in what you're doing

[undone valley]

This pretty much is, but without upgradable cpu

[undone valley]

I can with a GPU

[quasi field]

Don’t wait 4 months on a card that I spent more time getting it that I could have probably got a job and scalped version…

[tidal geyser]

a 7500f is going to be what like 10 times better or more

[undone valley]

How compared to a 7945hx

[tidal geyser]

the U line such ASSSSSSSSSSSS and 10th gen even more so

[rigid fjord]

the gpu won't be taking advantage of it, hell most gpu's can barely take advantage of pcie gen4

[rigid fjord]

24 pcie lanes

[tidal geyser]

a r5 7500f is should beat a threadripper 1950X in multicore

6 core 12 thread vs 16 core 32 thread

[undone valley]

So does a 7945hx

16 core 32 theeads

[lavish owl]

True, true I'm just pissed that it took 3 months to get one fit q reasonable price then it took a month to ship

[undone valley]

7945hx I'm pretty sure beats 7500f for not much more

[tidal geyser]

a 7500f is 120$

well now due to tariffs and whatever its more like 140$ tho

[quasi field]

2060 super tho ;-; im sorry dude

[tidal geyser]

a r7 7700x kit from micros center should be around 400$

[rigid fjord]

i'd pick a 7700x ove a 7945hx

[tidal geyser]

9700X for 430
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006970/amd-ryzen-7-9700x,-gigabyte-b650-gaming-x-ax-v2,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

[lapis talon]

What exactly is ntoskrnl

[lavish owl]

Ikkkk I'm kinda broke rn and my pc broke. Old pc was a gtx 560hd and a lga 2666 cpu

[tidal geyser]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1027757333117415424

[lavish owl]

Well needed upgrade

[undone valley]

Don't live in US. In Aus for me

[lapis talon]

There's nothing there

[tidal geyser]

too bad

[lapis talon]

Very

[lapis talon]

I meant there's nothing there about ntoskrnl

[tidal geyser]

make a post about your bluescreen 😐

and give em your minidump

[lapis talon]

I'm going to try digging a bit deeper before posting about it

[tidal geyser]

does the bd795i even ship there

[undone valley]

Yep

[lapis talon]

If I absolutely can't find a solution, I'll make a post

[undone valley]

And I can also get it through amazon

[tidal geyser]

you do know it says in the minidump what driver or what thingy is causing it most times

[lapis talon]

Ooo wait i actually didn't know that

[serene pumice]

How do you have time to do anything else with how much you're on here Sim?

[tidal geyser]

do not worry about it

[serene pumice]

Aight!

[rigid fjord]

yes, but it's $1k aud

[serene pumice]

[undone valley]

Okay, so, 7945hx has enough PCIe lanes for what I need, 90% the performance of a 7950x at half the wattage, for around $400 USD including the motherboard and cooled without fan. Is minisforum BIOS upkeep decent enough for me to buy this?

[tidal geyser]

why are you using USD

[undone valley]

It's 640 right now

[undone valley]

To make it more standardised for other us people to know the price

640 aud

[tidal geyser]

there we go the real number to look at

[undone valley]

In terms of price to performance, based on all things I've looked into, it's great. My only hitch is the reliability of minisforum BIOS upkeep

[rigid fjord]

https://store.minisforum.com/products/minisforum-bd790i-x3d-au aussie spec'd one

[tidal geyser]

even has a cooler for the NVMEs

[undone valley]

I'm not getting the X3D one

Non-x3d is 640

[rigid fjord]

for anyone stupidly using gen 5 drives tbh

[undone valley]

Basically 7950 at 75W

[shut elbow]

MSI AFTERBURNER BRICKED MY GPU

[tidal geyser]

eh the new WE one is ok

[tidal geyser]

yea?

[shut elbow]

DEAD

[tidal geyser]

reads this program can brick your gpu, then complains when it does it

[shut elbow]

WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!

MY NEW 9070XT BRICKED?

[tidal geyser]

you said yes to knowing it can do it?

[tidal geyser]

WTF more like why the hell did you use afterburner on that

[shut elbow]

undervolt the graphics card

[tidal geyser]

you can do that in adrenalin too?

[shut elbow]

and more vram and clock speed

[tidal geyser]

that too

[undone valley]

Would just undervolting brick it? And and has its own software for that

[shut elbow]

not at thew same time

i wanted 3.8gz

[tidal geyser]

wat

[undone valley]

And*

[shut elbow]

no 3.8gz

[shut elbow]

but i have a $1500 brick

[undone valley]

Anyway. Is minisforum reliable enough with the BIOS?

[untold dragon]

and thats your own fault

[tidal geyser]

it can barely do 3GHz

[shut elbow]

it didnt get to that

[tidal geyser]

why tf did you pay 1500 for a 9070 xt

[rigid fjord]

you'd have to add in ram pricing as well tbh, which for you is limited to 5600mhz jedec spec'd ddr5 sodimm's

[shut elbow]

2.89 and black screens

[shut elbow]

taxes or smth

[tidal geyser]

looks about right

[tidal geyser]

the msrp is 650

[shut elbow]

fuck ass silicon

i didnt want it anyway

[tidal geyser]

well no 600$

[undone valley]

I think I saw 6000 ones for 140

[shut elbow]

in what

[rigid fjord]

not going to run at that speed

[shut elbow]

im in aud

[tidal geyser]

you undervolted and then it was unable to boost that high?

[shut elbow]

does undervolting affect the clock speeds

[tidal geyser]

PowerColor Radeon RX 9070 XT Reaper 16GB $1,139.00
PowerColor Radeon RX 9070 Red Devil OC 16GB $1,159.00

[shut elbow]

that makes things make alot more sense now

[shut elbow]

xt

[tidal geyser]

think dis was at launch

[undone valley]

They don't? I've seen laptops using 6000 befire

[tidal geyser]

yea?

[undone valley]

Even then 5600 doesn't seem bad to me

[tidal geyser]

sodimm cant do over 5600MT

[shut elbow]

+sip

[sinful cobalt]

dawg i cant even use msi ab to tune my 9070xt

[undone valley]

Dang

[rigid fjord]

nope, laptop cpu's don't have the ability to do xmp speeds on ram

[tidal geyser]

and you should not use it

its also funny how after burner has not been updated this year due to the guy being russian and MSI is unable to give him money

[tidal geyser]

what

[rigid fjord]

5600 is your best chance of it doing depending on the bios

[undone valley]

I think it'd be more of a motherboard or main board issue. Because the 7945hx is literally a 7950 with some shifted stuff

[undone valley]

Well I'm fine with that

[shut elbow]

im buying an astral 5090 for 7.2k

[tidal geyser]

house burns down

[shut elbow]

on friday

its my birthday

[untold dragon]

are you high?

[shut elbow]

yeah

[rigid fjord]

according to amd themself

[undone valley]

Hilonesy only considering it because the 7945hx has lower idle tdp and is being significantly cheaper than the desktop counterpart with only 10% cost to performance

[tidal geyser]

from the smoke fumes form his i dono probs over volted then undervolted gpu

[rigid fjord]

5200mhz ddr5 jedec

[shut elbow]

yeah i tried max power boosdt

and then -15%

[rigid fjord]

tdp isn't the actual power draw of the cpu

[tidal geyser]

ikr

[shut elbow]

👺

[hot ivy]

Anyone know the difference between rx9070xt and rx 7900xtx i see different sources saying 7900 is better at pure raster by a bit, but when i see game benchmarks rx 9070xt is better by 2-3 frames is 7900 onky better at 4k or?

[undone valley]

Yeah but I think based on measurements I've seen online it draws significantly less than the desktop ones. Which U don't understand why when strix halo is chiplet and has low idle wattage

[frosty prism]

today has been the worst day of my life

[undone valley]

9079 has better power to performance pretty sure, as well as better ray tracing

[frosty prism]

pc being stupid and not restarting = 3 hours to reinstall windows

[undone valley]

But other than that nothing much else in performance

[frosty prism]

random black screens every 5 minutes isnt fun either

[terse sparrow]

eeeeeeeeeeee

[rigid fjord]

the 9070xt is better by a good deal over a 7900xt

[tidal geyser]

just get the 9070 xt

[undone valley]

Oh woos I was thinking about xtx

[tidal geyser]

what gpu

[frosty prism]

5070 🙏

fuck nvidia

[rigid fjord]

7945hx is not strix halo, it's dragon rage

[tidal geyser]

o yeah you

[frosty prism]

i think i need to push in my power adapter even more into the card

[tidal geyser]

not the issue

[undone valley]

Just wanna clarify. With 9070 xt and adrenaline software. Would I be able to limit the power draw to 200W?

[tidal geyser]

but give it a try

[tidal geyser]

200w probs not but you can reduce it BY A LOT

[undone valley]

Yeah I'm just comparing them both being chiplet CPUs

[tidal geyser]

for under that you would need to make a custom vbios

[frosty prism]

its that or its the psu

[tidal geyser]

why not the gpu

[frosty prism]

because the psu fans go to 100% when it happens...

fan'

[tidal geyser]

what psu

[undone valley]

Damn. Coz I don't need all that power draw making heat for like 12 to 20% more performance than a 9070

[rigid fjord]

strix halo chips have a higher power draw

[tidal geyser]

you sound like you would be better off with a a2000

or a 5070 LP

[undone valley]

At idle?

[tidal geyser]

well no wait rtx 5000 doing the shittums

[frosty prism]

msi mag a850gl

[tidal geyser]

its not the psu

[undone valley]

16gb vram and decent prices?

[terse sparrow]

2 days for the 9060xt

[rigid fjord]

strix halo vs dragon rage, idle power isn't as such a concern tbh

[undone valley]

But only 12 GB vram

[frosty prism]

why would the fans go up to 100% then

[tidal geyser]

wait you sure it was not on the gpu

[terse sparrow]

Excited to see if AMD leaks on a 9080/9090 hold true.

[rigid fjord]

12gb vram is actually decent

[serene pumice]

12 GB is more or less what you need right now

[undone valley]

It isn't too much of a concern, but if when I'm doing general stuff I don't want it to draw 28W when it could just draw 10W

[frosty prism]

nope i put my ear on the damn case

[tidal geyser]

what?`??????????

[undone valley]

Cost more too

[tidal geyser]

why is idle so important for you

[serene pumice]

than what?

[undone valley]

Don't some titles now need 16 for 1440p?

[frosty prism]

yeah because its so loud, put my ear on the case and yes it was the psu

[serene pumice]

Bet. Which one?

[tidal geyser]

ngl 4060 ti ought to be the best choice for ya

[junior valve]

dang the p12 max is pretty quiet at 1700 rpm

[frosty prism]

it just happened i just crashed

black screen, psu went up to 100%

[tidal geyser]

and how do you know it must have been the psu and not lets say cpu cooler or some case fan

[rigid fjord]

nope, 16gb vram is when you're playing with 4k res

[sinful cobalt]

its entirely locked

[frosty prism]

because the sound is coming from under the case where i have no fans..

[tidal geyser]

yeea well we still have adrenalin

[serene pumice]

Oh, I thought he had an example ready

[tidal geyser]

what cpu you got

[sinful cobalt]

adrenaline has a 50% chance of shitting itself at times

[serene pumice]

🗣️ So True!
Bring back ATI Catalyst Control Center

[frosty prism]

i5 14600kf

[tidal geyser]

rip

[frosty prism]

?

[tidal geyser]

no igpu

[frosty prism]

okay and whats the issue

[sinful cobalt]

i have no idea what that is since my interest in PCs started way too late

[tidal geyser]

i am still dam sure its the gpu

[sinful cobalt]

but ATI sounds familiar

[frosty prism]

i'll try plugging the adapter deeper into the gpu because i had that issue when i first got it and it fixed it, if it doesnt work well just get it rma'd

[tidal geyser]

i would return the gpu and try and grab something amd the 9060 xt 16GB is only a few days away now anyways

[tidal geyser]

RMA what

[frosty prism]

the card

[tidal geyser]

high chance its a driver issue

[serene pumice]

Just what the program was called "before", then AMD bought ATI.

[frosty prism]

been using the card for 2 months and nothing happened

and i reverted to my old driver as well

[undone valley]

Because I'm not always going to be doing load stuff on it

[frosty prism]

i am 100% sure its the psu but i'll get it and the gpu both replaced

[tidal geyser]

i think nvidia also flashed the vbios for some cards

[tidal geyser]

it could also be the cpu too tho

[tidal geyser]

what so saving like a few cents a day?

[frosty prism]

why would it

[tidal geyser]

what?

[frosty prism]

oh yeah and another thing, when that happens i get an nvidia notification saying it crashed

[tidal geyser]

its a 14600k?

[junior valve]

13 and 14th could die

[frosty prism]

so either the psu is fucking the gpu up or the gpu is bad itself

[tidal geyser]

or cpu

[junior valve]

what psu again?

[frosty prism]

msi mag a850gl

[tidal geyser]

a850gl

[junior valve]

do you have any spare gpus

[frosty prism]

sold all of them when buying this pc

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/kiritsugu-rpg-plane-gif-27471814

sorry I sent too high of a voltage to ur cpu 🙏

[serene pumice]

indeed. ATI made GPU's & had a red theme/logo going on.

AMD made CPU's & had a green color theme/logo. Then they bought ATI.

[junior valve]

does your mobo have debug leds

[frosty prism]

nope its a prime b760m-k

[true stirrup]

All motherboards have debug lights

[junior valve]

no

[true stirrup]

Find me one that is from the last decade

[junior valve]

z690m aorus ddr4

[frosty prism]

where is it then...

[tidal geyser]

nope

[serene pumice]

My friend only ever upgrades his computer every 8 year or so though, so I recommended him the 16 GB 4070 Ti Super over the 12 GB 4070 Super.

[gilded harness]

man shes a beauty tho

but i aint gonna use it with 2200g

[junior valve]

asetek final boss

[serene pumice]

Sorry, forgot to turn off ping

[gilded harness]

im trading that shit for 5600 🌹❤️‍🩹

[sinful cobalt]

blud paid the asus tax

[gilded harness]

i got it for $60

but still expensive for 240mm

[junior valve]

i traded mine for a h170i

[gilded harness]

bro just gave me an idea

[plush wren]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-cat-chilling-flexing-cat-dancing-kitty-dancing-cat-gif-17432454222657908421

[junior valve]

mythical trade

[true stirrup]

Okay my bad then
That is absolutely criminal

[junior valve]

arctic bracket

nice

[tidal geyser]

noctua

[junior valve]

is it?

[tidal geyser]

yes

[junior valve]

chromax then

[tidal geyser]

@true stirrup where are the dbug LEDs BOY

[junior valve]

what r we looking at here

[undone valley]

It adds up

[tidal geyser]

like 10$ a year

[rigid fjord]

that is a fair upgrade, though price wise a 4080 super can be cheape than it

[hoary tree]

A coiled cable at 100x zoom on 2 phones

[true stirrup]

I was absolutely certain manufacturers don't pull this shit anymore
I apologise for my misconception

[junior valve]

5 cents perday, 1$ and 80 cents per month

[undone valley]

9070

[tidal geyser]

:3

[gilded harness]

glory glory to corsair

[junior valve]

lemme guess, s24u and one other phone

[hoary tree]

Nope, s22 ultra and another phone

[junior valve]

which side is the s22?

[undone valley]

Around 3.20 per quarter

[hoary tree]

Right

[tidal geyser]

wat

[undone valley]

Wait I did the math wrong

[junior valve]

one doritos bag

[gilded harness]

hmmm idk if i should keep the aio

[junior valve]

and the left?

[hoary tree]

S21 ultra

[junior valve]

trade it for a 420 aio

[gilded harness]

of course i need a white case for it

[undone valley]

It would cost me around that much more per month with the desktop idle power vs the laptop ones

[gilded harness]

black case with white aio sucks

[gilded harness]

4080 and 3090 are crazy

[undone valley]

But for me the main reason I'm looking at 7945hx, 90% performance of 7950x with close to 50% power draw for the purchase cost of lower specs

[junior valve]

this is when my x53 died

[undone valley]

Maybe I misheard then. I just heard someone say needing 13gb on some game at 1440p

[undone valley]

Isn't that ass for the price it costs though?

[junior valve]

beamng with 120 ai cars

[undone valley]

*though I heard

[tidal geyser]

super low idle lots of vram

[serene pumice]

Indeed. He only ever play like League/Teamfight Tactics atm though, so bit of an overkill already haha.

He also went with a 7800x3D, had to convince him not to go for the 7900x or 14700K instead. xP

[rigid fjord]

those are not arctic brackets

[junior valve]

mb noctua

[tidal geyser]

ew 6 core cpu whenm gaming

[undone valley]

But there isn't any point to the vram because I'm pretty sure it performs roughly the same as 8gb 4060ti

[granite osprey]

Is it high IQ to go from a rx 7800xt to a rx 9070 xt

[serene pumice]

You mean the 12 core 7900x?

[tidal geyser]

but it has 2X the vram?

[tidal geyser]

well yea

[tidal geyser]

yea

[serene pumice]

indeed. He just thought more cores = better. Always nice to be able to give some input. =)

[junior valve]

4070 to 4080

[undone valley]

But doesn't it perform the same still? There's no point in extra vram for the purpose of extra vram when the GPU is limited by the bandwidth and bus

[tidal geyser]

but its at least able to load it into vram

most games just crash when they run out of vram

and the ones that do not run like ultra trash

its funny 4060 ti 8GB vs 16GB once the vram runs out the 16GB one is MASSIVELY faster

[undone valley]

Does it adds to the performance? Based on numbers I saw, it didn't outside of ai workloads

[frosty prism]

just stress tested the gpu and cpu for 10 minutes and no crashes but i bet you when i open a game shits dying in 3 minutes

[tidal geyser]

where

[serene pumice]

I would wait some generations more before even thinking about upgrading haha

[undone valley]

Hardware unboxed gamers nexus tomsharsware

[frosty prism]

@tidal geyser do you think i should replace the psu AND gpu or just the gpu

[junior valve]

i ve experienced this before

[undone valley]

Am I remembering to wrong?

[junior valve]

my old 13600kf was also doing this while gaming, replaced the cpu and it runs fine now,

[serene pumice]

stress tested with Prime95 and Furmark?

[junior valve]

roblox studios

[undone valley]

I'll be back with numbers

[granite osprey]

true i want to upgrade my cpu

[serene pumice]

Was it an intel degradation thingy or overheating?

[serene pumice]

Would!

[serene pumice]

What you got now?

[undone valley]

Also there no point in me buying a 4060 if I have to upgrade form it sooner than what I paid for it

[granite osprey]

ryzen 7 3700x

[junior valve]

i have a d15, so its the degradation

[serene pumice]

Thats almost ancient by now

[frosty prism]

furmark

[undone valley]

I probably wouldn't upgrade until my PC struggles to run things decently

[granite osprey]

it doesnt hold me back as much since i play on qhd but yeah i need to upgrade it low key

[undone valley]

And for me decently would be a game at 30fps

[junior valve]

75c full load on cinerbench

[serene pumice]

People here always says furmark is just a power virus, maybe they mean it's not actually testing stability.

[frosty prism]

did cinebench too

[tidal geyser]

3D mark

[serene pumice]

or the instability is not GPU related

[tidal geyser]

14th gen K intel cpu :3

[junior valve]

my 13600kf also does fine with benchmarks but crashed while gaming

[true stirrup]

3DMark my beloved
Sadly benchmark season is over (ambient temps too high) so can't compete for leaderboards anymore 😢

[tidal geyser]

one of em dying ones?

[junior valve]

yes

[tidal geyser]

xd

[junior valve]

but it in the fridge

[frosty prism]

im thinking this is a gpu issue honestly

[junior valve]

y

[serene pumice]

Suremy there was a whole Intel chips got chip rot making peoples PCs & some game dev game servers crash recently

[rigid fjord]

it ain't a stability test tbf, occt is more of a stability test

[true stirrup]

The fridge wouldn't be able to handle the heat

[frosty prism]

its either a gpu or psu issue, psu issue because the fans ramp up to 100%

[tidal geyser]

or cpu

[junior valve]

i ve the same issue, its 100% the cpu

[frosty prism]

then why would the psu fan fly to 100%?

[tidal geyser]

since the cpu and gpu maxed out the power

[junior valve]

or the psu is just loud

[tidal geyser]

when windows crashes it gets funky

[true stirrup]

I will have to be happy with 46th place on TimeSpy and 13th on Steel nomad DX12 on the 2080 super leaderboard until next winter I guess

[tidal geyser]

yeeaa that psu is pretty loud

[frosty prism]

no it happens just on the crash

[serene pumice]

I see. It worked for me back in the days at least. When the hairy donut started having random black pixels appearing on it, you needed to raise the voltage or lower the frequency in RivaTuner.

[frosty prism]

as soon as the black screen happens fan flies to 100%

[tidal geyser]

yup that is how it works

seen that on both gpu and cpu issues

not psu tho

[junior valve]

psu would just blowup if it fails like that

[serene pumice]

[frosty prism]

alright so how about this, i'll plug in the power adapter deeper into the card since i used to have black screens before

[tidal geyser]

deeper how

[frosty prism]

if that doesnt fix it i'll send it to the place i got it from and have them deal with it

[frosty prism]

its pretty loose because galax cards have shit adapters

[tidal geyser]

no

it fits or it does not, there is no in between

[junior valve]

what gpu does he have btw

[tidal geyser]

5070

[frosty prism]

no lmao, before it worked but if the pc moved a bit or the desk moved the pc instantly black screened but there was still input

[tidal geyser]

pic of the 16 pin

[frosty prism]

the technician said it needs to be tightened, he tightened it but said it might come loose in the future so incase of that tighten it again

[tidal geyser]

tightened????????

[junior valve]

the gpu pcie slot is loose

[serene pumice]

You're hoping to find a cheap 2:nd hand 5800x3d or 5700x3d?

Or saving up for the big boy league, 9800x3d, 7800x3d?

Or not going for overkill CPU upgrade at all, & "just" new Platform; 2-3 generation newer AMD CPU+DDR5+Motherboard?

[frosty prism]

thats what he said and all i know is after whatever he did the pc was fine

[tidal geyser]

ngl kinda now its just 5700X or then just going am5 as the am4 X3D are just so badly priced now

[serene pumice]

DDR6 surelt any minute now guys

[tidal geyser]

am6

[true stirrup]

15k MT/s incoming

[tidal geyser]

in like 2-3 years we will see ddr6

[junior valve]

corsair already does 12k

[true stirrup]

I know GSkill and Kingston reached those speeds

Also the cooling was absolutely wild

[frosty prism]

okay 14 minutes and no crashes yet

[junior valve]

peak corsair

[true stirrup]

Oh it's been recently achieved
Sick

[oblique jay]

Is there anything that'd cause random instability on games? Just tried to hop on shitnite after a while but every time I try to move my frames from from about 200+ to <40 so it's just unplayable. Internet is fine and specs are great, never had this issue before so not sure why it's just appeared

Drivers are up-to-date as well

[junior valve]

on their poopy vengeance lineup top

[true stirrup]

God bin I guess

[junior valve]

yea, gskill is at 12666

[serene pumice]

7800x3d is 50$ more than 9700x in Sweden, but I hear what you're saying.

9800x3D or bust

[lapis talon]

This looks ridiculous

[sick reef]

temperatures while playing roblox at max graphics

[frigid hollow]

Chonk

[lapis talon]

My case too smol 💀

[sick reef]

i think the 80c is maximum safe and normal load temperature

[frigid hollow]

If it fits it fits

[undone valley]

In the adrenaline softwar, i remember seeing that there was a wattage slider, what does that do for the GPU?

[tidal geyser]

na bit low

[sick reef]

i dont want higher than 80-85c

why would you want a higher than 80c

[sinful cobalt]

80c is normal operating temp

[tidal geyser]

then why do you have a laptop

[sick reef]

it's a desktop, not a laptop.

[lapis talon]

Just barely bro

[tidal geyser]

why did you not get a ice giant

[undone valley]

i think they mean that laptops can run upto 99C and still last

[lapis talon]

@sinful cobalt my magnetic top plate doesn't close because of the 12-2x6

[frigid hollow]

Would make it better for me, perfect fit

[lapis talon]

It's too thicc

[lapis talon]

💀

[sick reef]

this is a desktop

[sinful cobalt]

adapter or straight from psu?

[true stirrup]

It allows it to pull more wattage

[tidal geyser]

105c

[lapis talon]

Upgraded from this

[undone valley]

dayum

[sick reef]

doesn't even have battery on tray

[undone valley]

could cook a stake on that

[tidal geyser]

aaaaaaaaaaaa its you

[lapis talon]

Straight psu, adapter would fit but psu one too big

[true stirrup]

It looks great

[undone valley]

so you cant use it to lower or limit the wattage the GPU pulls?

[lapis talon]

Ty

[true stirrup]

You can

No point unless you are overheating tho

[lapis talon]

I was planning on upgrading my casing fans but...

[undone valley]

So hypotehtically, if i bought a 9070XT, would i be able to limit the wattage to around 230W?

[lapis talon]

That'll be a challenge

[undone valley]

electricity costs too and power usage for performance

[true stirrup]

You could but I don't see why you would do that

Ah

Electricity costs are that bad there?

[sinful cobalt]

yes

[granite osprey]

Sexy imo

[lapis talon]

You can undervolt + oc it for better performance than stoxk

[undone valley]

it's not terrible, but if i need another 70W just to get 12% more perofrmance, im fine with lower lowe performance

[lapis talon]

Scary cable plugged in

[sinful cobalt]

just use the adapter

[undone valley]

i mean, i think at this time, since it's winter it's not as bad of an issue, but on hotter days, it woudl be more of an issue tho

[lapis talon]

I tried to bend it as least as I could

[true stirrup]

140% power limit

[granite osprey]

what graphic card is that it looks beautiful from the side

[true stirrup]

Fair point

[plush wren]

corn on pizza

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-with-tie-gif-11241827778194923856

[sinful cobalt]

what card is this

[lapis talon]

Sapphire Nitro+ 9070xt

[undone valley]

yeah, that's fine, but from what i read and saw, the undervolting is limited based on game, right? so can only have certain undervolting for certain games?

[true stirrup]

2080 super aorus waterforce WB

[frosty prism]

@tidal geyser it cant be a cpu issue if i can hear people in my discord call and they can hear me can it?

[sinful cobalt]

o

[tidal geyser]

eh intel did lots of shit always possible

[true stirrup]

Nah undervolting is not game specific at all

[sinful cobalt]

goat

[undone valley]

for my build im aiming for best price-performance ratio with the best best energy-performance ratio and future resistance

[frosty prism]

possible but unlikely

[undone valley]

that's why im looking at 7945hx with motherboard and cooler for 640AUD and 9070XT possibly. Making it around $2500 AUD

[junior valve]

i dont see nvidia? wheres the goat

[undone valley]

If 9070 was at a proportionaly cheaper price, id be getting that

[sinful cobalt]

I am not considering the aorus master black a goat

[junior valve]

y

[sinful cobalt]

because it is under gigabyte

lol

[true stirrup]

Presoldered CPU?

[undone valley]

Or if microsoft had the gall to let you use windows desktop on their xbox, id be getting that

[tidal geyser]

ofc

[undone valley]

yeah, but im saving the price of a motherboard and getting a 7950 relative equiavlent for the price of 7800

[junior valve]

trade it for an astral

[undone valley]

and i probably wouldnt upgrade for a long ass while

[sinful cobalt]

i am not trading it for another shit brand

[junior valve]

how about founders

[sinful cobalt]

scalped and unobtainable here unless imported via someone in the appropriate country

[distant mesa]

If I have a 5700x3d, will a 9060xt be better than a b580?

[sinful cobalt]

the 9060xt is in another class from the b580

[tidal geyser]

9060 xt is anyways better

its like saying, will this way better card that can have way more vram beat this cheaper and older card with less and so on

b580 is meant to be a 250$ card

[lapis talon]

💀

[tidal geyser]

9060 xt 350$ one well 16GB

[distant mesa]

Will I be CPU bottlenecked with a b580?

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-me-drink-bleach-gif-22890796

how i feel

[sinful cobalt]

bottleneck isnt a real thing with what ur saying lmao

[distant mesa]

Alr

[true stirrup]

Explain how a GPU can bottleneck a CPU

[sinful cobalt]

that word belongs in ZTT

[tidal geyser]

he invented it

[undone valley]

i think he meant in ghaming how 580s were bottlnecked by older CPUs, not that the GPU woul dbe bottle necking the CPU

[frosty prism]

@tidal geyser im defo sure its the gpu because after uninstalling the drivers the pc would work normally for hours

oh and i tried plugging in my hdmi port into the motherboard but that didnt work

so thats that

[tidal geyser]

welp then the drivers are shit

[tidal geyser]

OMG no shit you have a F cpu

[frosty prism]

im ragebaiting 😭

[tidal geyser]

mhm

[frosty prism]

i dont think its the drivers i think its the physical gpu, used the old driver for a month and had no issues

[tidal geyser]

the same driver you trying to use now?

[frosty prism]

yep

not trying, the same one im using now

i remember updating, getting issues 2 days later so i used ddu and did a clean install and the issues remained so now i know its not the drivers

[tidal geyser]

im still thinking it is but good luck

[frosty prism]

so a driver works perfectly for a month and then stops working a month later? doesnt make sense

[undone valley]

I am aiming for around 90% of the performance of this and would be around $500AUD ish cheaper using the 7945HX
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/GDg9Qd

[tidal geyser]

ama say it again, nvidia has from what i understand flashed the vbios of gpus with the driver updates

[frosty prism]

and how do you fix that

[tidal geyser]

you cant gg

[plush wren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1159759794295545928/1336491630223425698/nk-image-edit-caption-gdn6nxus.gif

[latent pasture]

do u actually need the multicore perf?
why not just go 7600 and at least open the platform to future upgrades

[tidal geyser]

xd he has a 10th gen U cpu right now

[undone valley]

I am probably not going to upgrade for at least 7+ years, by then, new motherboard+cpu probably. I do not need multicore perofrmance to that extent, but at least 7900 level, compared to which, this is cheaper and better performance

[ebon marlin]

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[gilded harness]

should i upgrade my 2200g to 5600 or save for am5

[tidal geyser]

yes

to 5600 is going to be night and day

try and find a used one for like 80$

[lapis talon]

What do I do, the 12V cable is too thick

[tidal geyser]

no

[gilded harness]

somebody is willing to trade his 5600 for my rog aio i got for $60 earlier

[undone valley]

for really cheap tho, but the quad-core and RAM is limiting

[gilded harness]

win

[tidal geyser]

also it has what the performance of a desktop i3 6100 or some shit

eh more like 6400 or something

[undone valley]

yeah, back during gen 2 i-core cpus, id have been balling

but hey, $100 for a second hand one was worth it

back in 2021

[tidal geyser]

i got a i3 7100u laptop with a touch screen for 30$

gave it to my grandpa

[lapis talon]

This is properly seated right

[tidal geyser]

also the laptop was built like a tank with fkn metal back on the screen

[tidal geyser]

yes

[lapis talon]

I'll check the PSU now

[undone valley]

mine is the same old plastic. My sister got the 12th gen i5 last year from work and that had i think magnesium lid

@tidal geyser would you at least be able to tell me if minisforum is decently reliable enough for that cheaper of a price?

[tidal geyser]

ngl i was against it at first kinda still am but meh it should be fine

[lapis talon]

Ignore the rats nest, this is fine for the connector right?

[true stirrup]

Yes

[lapis talon]

And the cable itself bending isn't a problem correct?

[true stirrup]

Nope

It's fine

[tidal geyser]

Best thermal probe placement

Best thermal probe placement

[sinful cobalt]

you do not need to repeat urself

[tidal geyser]

no look where it is in the 2nd pic

[sinful cobalt]

if u need help blink twice instead

[tidal geyser]

xd

[undone valley]

why are you against it? aside from decent enough gaming performance from a 7500f?

[tidal geyser]

there is no 7600f

also not a major difference in gaming

[undone valley]

you know what i meant

[tidal geyser]

in other tasks yea

[lapis talon]

Alright

[tidal geyser]

ngl i was thinking i5 7600f

[lapis talon]

Ignore my background

[undone valley]

so considering the other tasks as well, is there a reason to be against it aside from locked upgrade path? not that it matters because im saving the cost of a motherboard

[true stirrup]

Nice self warming cat bed

[undone valley]

or cat hair absorber

[lapis talon]

Yup 💀

[lapis talon]

AIO exhaust up top

[sinful cobalt]

damn that cat’s got a personal warmer now

[undone valley]

well id idnt know that before

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4S8dM14FI4w

[tidal geyser]

Sodimm

[sinful cobalt]

also I wish I couldve gotten a aorus master ice instead lmao

[undone valley]

Is that the only thing?

[sinful cobalt]

istg I will legit swap if theres one for sale at a good price 2nd hand

[undone valley]

BTW if i was MOSTLY gaming and not needing the extra CPU power, id probably make a build with a 7500F

[sinful cobalt]

7500f the am5 cpu goat

[undone valley]

just sadly gaming isnt the majority or only thing im requiring

[tidal geyser]

More locked in for kinda everything, only mini itx
Locked into lga 1700 coolers even though its a amd cpu

[undone valley]

i was aiming for a small to medium size build anyway, and cooler wise, as long as it gets the job done for the 75W max id be running it at, it doesnt matter to me

[sinful cobalt]

what else? 7500f is plenty good

[undone valley]

data processing, some simulations, calculations, etc

[sinful cobalt]

sounds like a job for a 9950x3d-