tech-chat-1

[azure topaz]

or we tried looser

[rigid fjord]

finding ram below 2133 for ddr4 is like trying to find 3200 ddr3, rare as fuck

[dense pond]

Cheapest rams (atleast here in Czech) are mostly 2133 (or just jedec speed),

[azure topaz]

the one timing thats diff (lower) is tcwl, which was set to auto 💀

[bronze summit]

Got coffee

[rigid fjord]

i have to do some more tweaking to figure out 3800 cl16 as a stable OC

[dense pond]

Depends on how many sticks you want it to run

[rigid fjord]

i have 4x 8gb ballistix running at 3600 cl16 from it's original 3200 cl16

[gloomy sleet]

logitech formula force EX pc

[dense pond]

Meanwhile i struggle to have stable 3440mhz 🥲 on all 4 sticks

[dense pond]

Logitech formula force GP, not EX

[gloomy sleet]

shit

[rigid fjord]

micron rev.e's are easy to oc, and do have a fair bit of leeway

[gloomy sleet]

their exactly the same tbf

[dense pond]

Nope

[gloomy sleet]

pretty sure the EX is just newer with a belt stabiliser

[dense pond]

I have only 4 buttons, +paddle shifter, nothing more, and 2 pedals ofc

[rigid fjord]

this is it running stable

[cedar cargo]

Checked my pc bios and it says secure boot is enabled but im still getting this

[dense pond]

😭😭😭😭

[rigid fjord]

crashed a few times under this

[dense pond]

That app lets you see them Ohms?? Dayum, and i overclock only via bios

Do you have 2 sticks for those speeds or its 1 stick?

[rigid fjord]

all 4 sticks

zentimings is more for amd only, though hwinfo will show most of this also

this is what it looks like on hwinfo mainly

[dense pond]

Gonna install that app, now my pc would have OCCT, other stuff, and that app 😅

[tired bear]

use rufus to make your bottable usb, you can bypass everything there (secure boot, online account requirement, tpm)

[dense pond]

Rauko, would you mind to help me on friday, or saturday, to overclock the RAM? if my CPU would allow more tho

[rigid fjord]

tbf, there are better people than me at it in #overclocking

[dense pond]

I tried there to ask for help with that, noone answered, plus you got similar pc, like the mobo (same chipset, other brand), and CPU (X version and i have G version)

[rigid fjord]

tbh, you'd treat the 5600g as an r5 3600/3600x cpu wise

there's a fairly big difference in performance between a 5600g and 5600x

[dense pond]

Thats true, due to the fact the X doesnt have iGPU and having better stats

[odd marsh]

RAM overclocking is very hard and time intensive, it varies even from CPU to CPU pretty drastically

[orchid trellis]

With W10 reaching end of life and my refusal to use W11, can i just get an anti-virus software for W10 for a few years and call it good?

[dense pond]

😬 well, im willing to sacrifice my day to tune it up a bit

[odd marsh]

it's usually a multi day process

[dense pond]

You dont even need the anti-virus, if you dont download cheats/hacks for games, or cracked games

[rigid fjord]

tbf a 5600g is equal to an r5 3600 with a gt1030 tacked on as the igpu

[orchid trellis]

I still dont trust stuff

[rigid fjord]

nope, you can still end up infected/fucked up

[cedar cargo]

Do you know any good video tutorials you can recommend me?

[dense pond]

I managed to tune it up kinda in 2 days, while having it stable (ofc the very basic, as cpu speed, and ram frequency, ram voltage) + pbo enabled (set to motherboard)

[orchid trellis]

So linux?

[rigid fjord]

also, the definitions all other antiviruses get is the same ones windows defender gets

[rigid fjord]

pretty much

[orchid trellis]

:(

[trim moss]

Anyone know why my laptop sets the freseh rate to 70 hz when i enable g sync even tho its a 165 hz panel?

[formal sonnet]

Linux, Windows 11, or buy a Mac.

[rigid fjord]

you could easily manually tune pbo, the basics would be what's in this image

[dense pond]

Windows settings - display - do that there

[orchid trellis]

I dont like w11, dont wanna get a new pc and dont wanna deal with linux yet

[trim moss]

Its set at 165

[dense pond]

Add 200?? I think i only have like 100-120 written there, not sure tho

[dense pond]

So it should be 165hz then

[rigid fjord]

yup

[dense pond]

What if i set thermal limit to 65°C 😅 seems like my PC cant go over 54 honestly

[rigid fjord]

you could but if it's not liking it over 54c then you may have an issue with your cooler

[pearl fossil]

i'm thinking of building a new computer, do i need it though?

that's the main thing i'm really thinking about

[dense pond]

Its more like i have fans fitted like 3 in front, then 240mm aio, and behind the aio i have the same fans (2) as on front, and exhaust is pretty much as seen on the picture (lian-li 120mm fan, and on top there is exhaust 140mm)

[pearl fossil]

it still does everything fine, it's just that most of my friends would already switch their computer after like 2 years 😭

and i've kept this same one for 4 years and just upgraded it

it still does everything fine, it's just that those friends keep telling me to upgrade

[dense pond]

Should be alright to keep your current pc if it handles everything you need perfectly without any issue (low fps)

[pearl fossil]

it handles everything perfectly, just worried for the future and hardware requirements

like way too many games need overpowered specs nowadays

could just be because of denuvo on some of those games lmao

[dense pond]

Thats true, but for ultra-quality gaming while having high fps

[rigid fjord]

what aio exactly ?

[pearl fossil]

my monitor is only 1080p 75hz, i don't need really good specs for that

[dense pond]

Mind to look at my profile? There is everything abt my pc 😅

[wet scroll]

is asus dual rtx 4060 evo good for its price range

[bronze summit]

Yes (very true)

[dense pond]

Id take MSI, as its among the top of the 4060 gpu's

[rigid fjord]

hmm, you have a reasonably decent aio then, it should be easily able to hanle the cpu being pushed to 80c+ when under load tbh

[thorn cove]

hey guys, my microcenter has some 9070 xt's in stock for $699. I would need to save up for around 3 more weeks if I wanna buy it instead of the 7700 xt, do you think I should take the gamble and wait?

[rigid fjord]

i'd soooner pick an rx6700xt, 6750xt,7700xt tbh

[dense pond]

Yep, and with my fan speed and all, it doesnt go over 54-55°C, which should be alright while having high temp headroom for overclock

[dense pond]

We like gamble

[thorn cove]

https://tenor.com/view/sneaky-plotting-evil-patrick-spongebob-squarepants-gif-3501874

[rigid fjord]

while a 7700xt is a great dgpu for those who want to do a reasonable build, 9070xt is alot more higher performing, mind you, with a 7700xt you can get away without having tho change a psu if you're running 650-750w, a 9070xt i'd want to use a good decent 850w psu with it

[dense pond]

Me hiding in the bushed with 550w 80+bronze PSU

https://tenor.com/view/hide-the-simpsons-bush-bushes-hermit-gif-5786484

[thorn cove]

ive got a decent 750w but I will power limit the cpu if it gets in the way, if the gpu is still too thirtsy I will downclock it too

[rigid fjord]

me running with a tier A psu tbf

[thorn cove]

will that cause too much of a hassle?

[dense pond]

Whats tier A? 😭 I know 80+, never saw someone use tier A PSU

[thorn cove]

because I already cable managed and I am NOT interested in replacing this one anytime soon lol

[thorn cove]

cybernetics I think

[rigid fjord]

@dense pond while under a little bit of load currently

[rigid fjord]

the 80+ efficiency rating means nothing when it comes to psu quality tbh, but the tiering for psu's is due to 2 different lists, originally the cultist psu list and now spl's psu list

[dense pond]

Package 48w 😭😭 when i do OCCT it jumps on CPU testing over 100w 😭😭

[rigid fjord]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/edit?gid=1973454078#gid=1973454078

[dense pond]

Ohhh

[rigid fjord]

also i can easily push my cpu way past the pbo limit i have currently set if i wanted

[dense pond]

Definitely its not due to PBO set to motherboard 👀

[rigid fjord]

i've got mine set to 97w i believe

[dense pond]

I got 1000W if i remember correctly

[rigid fjord]

i don't just test my system with occt, i use cinebench and a few other programs also

rm850x 2024 model is what i have

[dense pond]

Basically what thw CPU can handle, without limiting it

[steel umbra]

occt is garbage for gpu stability test, all it's good for is maybe vram load (when it comes to gpu testing)

[rigid fjord]

pointless, your cpu if it was tuned a little better, 88-95w is all it will draw

[dense pond]

I find it quite usefull to use OCCT, for testing stability and for max power my pc can do (CPU)

[rigid fjord]

more for ram and cpu testing stability wise

[serene pumice]

Never had a PSU fail on me.
As long as you buy an 80+ PSU, you're good.

[dense pond]

114w or 117w most i saw, while gaming its around 50-70w usually

[rigid fjord]

really bad take, and that's bait for others

[steel umbra]

ragebait

spot on

[serene pumice]

Clearly just my personal experience.

[trim moss]

Its 70 tho, i checked it on that refresh rate websote

[steel umbra]

ragebait #2

[dense pond]

80+ [word], withour the [word] its just bait and it mind be bad quality, not even 80% efficiency

[steel umbra]

if your psu has higher 80+ certification there is a good chance it's okay, other times it can be a bomb or ripple monster

there are very few acceptable 80+ white psus because those are usually group regulated and not decent gr psus

[west harbor]

hey pc does black screen with loading cursor on start up after second boot

any idea what issue might be

[serene pumice]

I feel like a hardware store with any reputation worth mentioning wouldn't sell a bad PSU.

[steel umbra]

ragebait ultra mega troll 3000 #3

[rigid fjord]

even if it's higher it can be fake or a bomb still

[limpid dune]

FX-8350, HD7970, and HD7870 x2. We gonna large language our model with this one 🔥

[steel umbra]

@serene pumice three consecutive ragebaits, trollin' not allowed so banned

200%

[candid void]

yo for streaming and gaming together with a 5700x3d which graphic would be the best ?

[steel umbra]

5090

[candid void]

no amd graphic?

[quaint echo]

i have a 13900kf and last year it tanked, learned about the whole 13/14th gen issues and i got it replaced via RMA by intel. process was smooth but in the last few weeks i been getting some random blue screens and awkward/slow performance in some spaces.
i'm concerned that the updated bios i had gotten last september might not have been enough and i might now have another damaged cpu.
last year i did test every piece of hardware possible against a good working system(i couldn't test teh cpu vs mobo until i got the replacement cpu). Everything had been working flawless until the last month.

So far i've done the basics in software side of sfc/dism settings/drivers etc.
done memtest, cpu testing(tho, cpu never properly failed a test last year either) and default cmos + altering various settings suggested online(currently back on default)
my next step will be os reload to see if maybe the os is the culprit.

anyone know of anyone have their replacement intel cpu go bad too?

[serene pumice]

Maybe the world outside of Sweden just is trully a dark place after all

[steel umbra]

stop ragebaitin omg 😭

[serene pumice]

#1027757333117415424 also maybe

[steel umbra]

5090 is better than the xtx and 9070xt in 99.9% applications, but yeah the 9070xt does not experience that many melted cables

[rigid fjord]

it also doesn't turn into an expensive paperweight via updates either

[quaint echo]

not knowing where else to go after the testing ive done, i went to userbenchmark to see what my system is actually performing like vs others and i got back this for results.
granted, idk how reliable of a source this is, but i'd be down to try elsewhere too if anyone has recomendations.
13th% sounds insane for the overall ranking.
i'm using stock settings without overclocking but at worst i would imagine like 80%+?
idk.

[thorn pewter]

Am going to chiba🙏

[dense pond]

Id rather go for sightly lower FPS while not bothering for flame inside my pc

[quaint echo]

yeah, i might go there next. i just wanted to see if anyone knew about the 13/14s having issues after return and also about userbenchmark as a viable test for comparison.

[steel umbra]

undervoltin

[dense pond]

Doing something and not plugging the cable all the way in 👀

[thorn pewter]

its a breath of fresh air from austin

[frigid blade]

Today is my lucky day I think, I just found $80 in my pocket

[serene pumice]

For vacation or?

[frigid blade]

Time to buy fans for my case

[mild garden]

Could sm1 help me out in DMs

[rigid fjord]

as this looks like it's from userbenchmark, it's full of bullshit

[frigid blade]

Ask here

[rigid fjord]

you do realise, they sell p14 maxes as a 5 pack?

[dense pond]

I recommend Arctic p12 pwm pst, as i use them and so far they are very very good (basically every Arctic P fan is very good)

[frigid blade]

yes, couldnt find any in stock

[serene pumice]

But this is like 104$
And it's american prices, no?
So probably not even taxx included yet for some reason?
How will 80$ cover all that?!?

[rigid fjord]

the maxes are even better tbh, though they lack the power sharing

[thorn pewter]

her grandparents are there so we went there together

[frigid blade]

well obviously im not gonna pay all of it with the $80 🤣

I need high volume fans for cheap, anyone know any good ones?

[dense pond]

The 80$ is what covers some of the actuall price, like a 80$ discount

[frigid blade]

Like, I need hella airflow, noise isnt an issue

[rigid fjord]

userbenchmark is not viable for anything

[quaint echo]

do you know of a way to get a comparable benchmark? this system is the first one ive had consistent on/off issues with. every other pc ive had over the last 25 years has consistently worked or if something went wrong it was a replace and good to go. this one has been great for 6 months and the last month its been acting up

[frigid blade]

I need really good airflow for this next build, because Ill be OC'ing a lot

My RAM is hitting 60C rn when stress testing

[dense pond]

I was kinda skeptical abt the MAX version, as my main concern was dB (thus going for 24dB fans, the Lian-li is set to be silent by ear 😅)

[frigid blade]

Ah, well to me noise isnt an issue

[rigid fjord]

proper reviews from sites like techspot, techpowerup, gamersnexus, there's also using proper benchmarking software

[frigid blade]

The build will be in the basement in a corner

[dense pond]

Water is the solution for the temps being low👀👀

[frigid blade]

Ive got a system for using the resources in each room already, dont worry about that

[frigid blade]

Cant have water, too much risk
Will have 20 drives

[lethal bay]

if size isn’t an issue, literally just a big ass case

[rigid fjord]

while the maxes, max out at around 3000rpm, they're whisper silent up til around 2200-2500 rpm tbh

[odd marsh]

fractal torrent

[quaint echo]

yeah, looking for the software name tho.
reviews on everything im running are good except the now known issues with the potential for 13/14th gen to get murdered

[odd marsh]

wait 20 drives

[frigid blade]

yes

[rigid fjord]

cinebench, occt, benchmate

[frigid blade]

4 from board, 16 from HBA

[quaint echo]

ok. ty. i'll look into those

[frigid blade]

Its gonna be a mixed use server, Gaming VMs, Storage (mainly for a surveillance system)

If you're interested in the specs https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lm3KRV

Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 should be able to unofficially fit 20 drives

[dense pond]

They are on those speeds? Dayum, thats good to hear, i have my p12 set to 1800rpm and they are quite silent (had to tinker the lian-li bcs it vibrates 😭 i even had 2nd lian li, the same just white and its sooo bad with vibration)

[frigid blade]

Are the case fan speeds based on cpu or gpu?

[dense pond]

Depends what you want to cool more, if the CPU gets hot faster than GPU, you mind want to base it off of CPU and vice versa

[frigid blade]

Tbh I wouldnt care if they were full speed all the time

But how much does that mess with the life expectancy

Iceberg Thermal IceGALE Xtra does 169CFM, a 2 pack is $20

[dense pond]

Not much tbh, its usually (correct me if im wrong, again) based of running on 70-80% of speed, so around 15-26% less life expectation, but faster the bearing would wear out, or you just swap them out before they reach that life

[rigid fjord]

my p12's are also tuned, though i also run p14's

[frigid blade]

if you have the same amount of intake as exhaust fans, there shouldnt be any pressure differences right?

[rigid fjord]

i keep the temps around this area usually @dense pond

[frigid blade]

same fans, same size

I literally only care about airflow for the RAM but having it good for the entire case should be fine, I need these dimms to run 6000MT/s

[rigid fjord]

if the fans are all at the same speed then it's basically neutral airflow in the case

[frigid blade]

Yes, ok, thats what I thought

Ill also put a fan on the GPU to blow up towards the RAM

[dense pond]

Minimum 34 🥲 i reach 26 if i let it sit for 1h on idle without any app running

[rigid fjord]

you want it going like this in the case but with the fans tuned in a way it'll give positive airflow

[frigid blade]

yah thats what I thought

It will be the 140mm setup like on their page

• 1 more on the GPU

[rigid fjord]

i'm always having something run, if i turn't off most of the stuff, i'd be around 28c idle

[frigid blade]

ill have to ziptie or something

Does an air cooler for the CPU help with in case airflow compared to liquid?

cuz fans

[dense pond]

You want more positive pressure (more intake fans then exhaust, like 3 intake, 1-2 exhaust, all same speed or exhaust slower)

[frigid blade]

why?

[rigid fjord]

yes but also no

[dense pond]

Dust probably, as it wont sit on the stuff inside the pc case

[frigid blade]

at 169CFM dust will have time to sit?

[rigid fjord]

not really, as a thermal mass, an aio is better at sending heat out of the case more efficiently compared to an air cooler

[frigid blade]

Ok, just wondering, it has to be air because Im worried about liquid in the case with 20 drives

[dense pond]

Yes, it always have time to sit, so the positive pressure help to prevent it for happening too Fast

[rigid fjord]

yes, it's not just about the airflow, it's also about where turbulance can happen, for example how airflow will be when it goes over the gpu in the case

[steel umbra]

if you’re going to not put aio there don’t put exhaust there

[frigid blade]

so the top right should be intake so theres slight positive pressure?

[dense pond]

Top front fan directed as intake helps RAM temps

[rigid fjord]

no fan at all

[steel umbra]

you don’t need to out anything there

[frigid blade]

I need RAM airflow

[rigid fjord]

not on the top it wouldn't tbh,

[rigid fjord]

get an aircooler to blow air down on the ram tbf

[frigid blade]

im thinking of putting one on top of the GPU and pushing air towards the RAM

[azure topaz]

you literally have an extra fan on your aio just take it off and rest it on your gpu backplate pointing at the ram

[modest musk]

is the 1080 ti still good for medium end games nowadays?

[steel umbra]

intake then if you’re not going to put dedicated fan on top of the ram, just not exhaust because it doesn’t help or can actually slightly hurt temps

[frigid blade]

For now, but I plan on upgrading the case soon and im worrying about that now

[dense pond]

This mind be good for RAM temps, but also on top you lack the air filter

[steel umbra]

@dense pond mount a dedicated fan on the ram if doing heavier ram oc instead

[frigid blade]

Ill have to see if I have a mounting point for it. I know I can ziptie a fan to the top of the GPU

[rigid fjord]

top is always exhaust, never an intake

[rigid fjord]

no need

[dense pond]

This set up helped me from having ram on 50-70°C to go aeound 30-50°C tbh

[steel umbra]

not always, it can hurt temps with some cases, usually does not affect anything it’s useless there, intake would be more advisable

basicly the air there isn’t hot in the first place

so exhaust may steal cooler air

[dense pond]

Try different fan orientations and see what suits your needs the best imo

[steel umbra]

you don’t want more negative pressure where hot components aren’t outputting heat

[rigid fjord]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DPQ7XPV7/ this exists @frigid blade

[plush wren]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chat-cat-fall-hello-chat-cat-gif-24961178

[dense pond]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-cat-waving-wave-paw-gif-11249423921160715390

[frigid blade]

Why is it RGB

[dense pond]

Who doesnt like RGB (you dont need to hook up the RGB cable)

[rigid fjord]

me

[frigid blade]

I don’t like it

[lethal bay]

fuck rgb

[plush wren]

thats weird

https://tenor.com/view/rgb-pc-gif-6579876697587989059

[rigid fjord]

run it without the argb being connected in

[dense pond]

So no need to plug the rgb cable in its slot, so it wont light up the lights

[plush wren]

ew rgb blades

[steel umbra]

i’ve tried it with my 4000d, the top most front fan does not really help with any temps, and with a jonsbo d20 where there’s also psu possibly taking air it actually hurt cpu temps

[dense pond]

Use single color, not this rgb vomit tbh

[plush wren]

[dense pond]

Depends on size of the case and where the RAM is located, in my case it helped, as the fan is just on top of the RAM (midi-ATX case, ATX mobo)

[rigid fjord]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CY5MZ5HY there's also this style

[frigid blade]

How do some same sized fans and same RPM move more air than others

[frigid blade]

Yah I was looking at this

[rigid fjord]

the scoop of the blades

[dense pond]

Design

[steel umbra]

you shouldn’t have issues with ram temps, so if you can slap that fan on the ram with some brackets you can buy or diy it yourself, it would be better for ram cooling

[west wagon]

science even

[rigid fjord]

there's a difference in airflow fan blade designs from those of static pressure blade designs @frigid blade

[dense pond]

Heck, even how air moves/behaves

[hollow moon]

For a 20m distance between my gaming PC and an LG B4 TV, am I better using some sort of fibre HDMI cable for native gaming (better picture and easier surround sound setup) or ethernet client and server and use Moonlight from my Steam Deck docked? I use an Xbox controller via BT.

Only downside is my GPU only has one HDMI port but I could get a DP to HDMI adapter for my current 1080p office TV. Though I plan to upgrade it to 4K HDR next year.

[steel umbra]

i should’ve bought ph2.0 adapters instead of just xh2.54 big regret because a lot of fsp psus use them :c

[frigid blade]

I have temp issues because im OCing 4 dimms

[dense pond]

Doesnt look that bad as the rainbow vomit

[frigid blade]

the 2 in the middle are running hot af

[steel umbra]

dedicated fan

[frigid blade]

get up to 62C sometimes

Im getting errors during the stress tests because of the temps and I cant push them higher

that and the shitty mobo

[dense pond]

A/C unit maybee? Or some fans from around the house to test if that would help (temporarily)

[frigid blade]

nothing rn, we just moved its empty

[dense pond]

Dayum, well, test in night, its colder 👀

[frigid blade]

I was testing all night because of that

[plush wren]

im not for rgb vomit just to make that clear

[frigid blade]

they run 2-3C cooler? Doesnt make sense but

my room gets hot af now lol

[plush wren]

better to be hot than cold

[frigid blade]

I have the window open 24/7 because theyre constantly running hot during tests

[dense pond]

Im not into the RGB vomit also, i use static single color

[plush wren]

same

[west wagon]

i use no rgb

[steel umbra]

sounds like you should reinstall your ram and cpu

[fallow current]

Did that both

[steel umbra]

cmos reset?

[fallow current]

Haven't tried that. Lemme try that

[dense pond]

Seems like RGB party

[steel umbra]

based

[dense pond]

Bro is rich 😭 i have it RGB bcs 1. It looks cool 2. It was cheaper

[west wagon]

rgb = distraction

[dense pond]

Tbh, non-rgb parts are more expensive than rgb

[fallow current]

I can just pull the battery for cmos clear right?

[west wagon]

literally wrong

[frigid blade]

I cant wait to show the build once I finish it

[dense pond]

You can set them to static 1 color, or even turn them off, have them only sightly lit up, etc.

[steel umbra]

either bridge two pins or press down a pin to release the cmos battery

[dense pond]

Here they are 😭😭

[west wagon]

it's still a distraction to me lol

[frigid blade]

Its gonna be really cool, mini PC in each room streaming ultra low latency Gaming VMs

You wont even notice the latency in inputs

[dense pond]

Bcs you have rainbow vomit! (Atleast what you sent here) Thats not how its supposed to be

[dense pond]

Thats how CMOS reset is done, yes

[frigid blade]

or short the jumper if it has one

i found shorting is easier and faster

[fallow current]

Yeah it does have 2 pins to short but I just pulled the battery and put back. Same thing.

Is my board DOA 😭

[dense pond]

Safer to do the old pulling out, rather than accidentally killing his pc (if he uses wrong jumpers)

[frigid blade]

its pretty hard to short the wrong ones when the PC is off and without power

[west wagon]

i've never sent anything

[steel umbra]

you don’t have to pull out the battery usually tho, most boards have a clip that will release the battery

[dense pond]

Then somebody else with similar color of pfp did

[frigid blade]

youre talking about the cat pfp

[dense pond]

.

[fallow current]

Yeah the clip worked for me.

[frigid blade]

polarr

[dense pond]

Here 👀 im blind tbh

[frigid blade]

the price aint bad still

Maybe ill jump in?

[steel umbra]

put it on a table for 2+ mins and then put it back

[rigid fjord]

yes, though if you can get a spare reset switch, connect that on to the clr cmos header instead and use that as a remote way to colear the cmos

[dense pond]

50% of my NVMe storage just in RAM for 1k$ 😭😭

[frigid blade]

you also get 80 cores and a cool raid card

[rigid fjord]

there's also a header for it, where you could fit a spare reset button on it instead

[frigid blade]

im not a fan of the 6148 but its OK

[dense pond]

80 cores?? Thats why the 20 core x4 is there for?

[frigid blade]

Yes, it has 4 sockets

[rigid fjord]

and it still loses to an epyc

[dense pond]

💀 i should go dig myself a grave

[fallow current]

Okay I pulled the battery, I'll wait a few minutes, thanks so far guys.

[frigid blade]

dude, they cost $50 each

The epycs cost in the thousands

[rigid fjord]

192c on a single cpu

[dense pond]

Bcs they are newer, faster, thus that price

[frigid blade]

Right, you cant compare a 6148 to any epycs

[steel umbra]

you’re supposted to unplug the pc before resetting cmos

[rigid fjord]

that's what manuals are for

[frigid blade]

the RAM itself costs $380 for 8x64gb

[dense pond]

Someone might not be fully into PC's to understand that, saw that personaly as my brother wanted to work on his pc (unplugging GPU while all cables were in, pc just set to sleep 😭)

[dense pond]

Tell that to someone who doesnt even know what motherboard is 💀 the manual wont help tbh

[frigid blade]

And its on them for breaking something

[dense pond]

Yep, fully aware of it happening, had to stop him or else RIP hours of work to get it back to run

(older pc with 5th gen Intel i5)

Anyway, good night y'all

[frigid blade]

snag

Its missing cables I think but thats it

[steel umbra]

which ones

[frigid blade]

all except power for the PSU

[steel umbra]

trash then

[frigid blade]

why?

[azure topaz]

not good yeah

you can find other units with all cables included for a similar pric e

[frigid blade]

Idk if I should get the G2 or G+

[steel umbra]

getting most of the cables replaced for that psu’s pin out is going to set you quite few tens of bucks

[azure topaz]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/286591432279?

G2 is better than G+

[frigid blade]

less budget

[azure topaz]

wat

[frigid blade]

less power

[azure topaz]

bro

you can overdraw it if you need more than 1300w but thats literally the dumbest thing ive ever read

[steel umbra]

it’s better value per watt

and includes cables

[frigid blade]

But is it enough for future CPU and GPU upgrades

[fallow current]

Same thing. Those 5 flashes. Do I call gigabyte and have them ship me a new board?

[frigid blade]

I want that Nova Lake CPU

[azure topaz]

yes bro its enough

[frigid blade]

52 cores, yummy

[frigid blade]

with 20 drives?

[azure topaz]

😭 you can have a 5090 and 14900k both max tuned and still be under 1300w

yes bro with 20 drives

[frigid blade]

even when they spin up?

[azure topaz]

?? why would i say yes if i actually meant no

[frigid blade]

because ur like that

[steel umbra]

it’s 1300w…

[frigid blade]

what if I remove my 4090 power limit with vbios mods or whatever

[azure topaz]

...

[steel umbra]

good luck with cooling it first

[frigid blade]

what

what if I want 40 drives

I can fit another HBA

[azure topaz]

😐

[frigid blade]

i think i made the cat mad

[west wagon]

then u need a different kind of psu

[frigid blade]

hehehe

@azure topaz someone said not to invest this much into LGA1700

What do you think, worth it for the RAM tune?

[azure topaz]

i mean no lol

but if you want high speed ram you pay money

[frigid blade]

I cant really do anything else, the core ultra socket is dead already

so no point in buying that

I hope the Nova Lake socket gets used more than 2 generations

[steel umbra]

does your motherboard have allowance for 40 drives?

[frigid blade]

With 2 HBAs? Yah

I made sure I had 2 extra x4 mode lanes

Well, 1 was supposed to be for a NIC, but this board has 10Gb

It kinda just carried over from the previous requirement

I could also do 5 NVMe SSDs but then PCIe slot 1 will run in x8

Which is still enough for my 4090, I think it has less than or a percent performance impact

[steel umbra]

how much will the drives/hdds draw

each

[frigid blade]

let me look it up rlly quick, this is why I wanted a high budget PSU that was way higher than youd think Id need

So that it had an upgrade path and can handle a lot of drives

[steel umbra]

you can always buy another and run two psus

[frigid blade]

5W idle, 10W max, random read/write 6W

[steel umbra]

@plush wren wt

[plush wren]

Nvm vro

public chat message

[steel umbra]

400w, that’s 850w for your 4090 and cpu of choice + 50w rest

[azure topaz]

so 400w, yes youll have enough power

40 drives in 1 rig is nas activities

[frigid blade]

yipee

[frigid blade]

I mean, it basically will be

[azure topaz]

sooo...

[frigid blade]

I need at least like 10 of those drives for a surveillance system

[steel umbra]

if you don’t oc your 4090 above 450w and cpu above 400w you’re fine

[frigid blade]

the rest for shenanigans, I cant afford them all at once, I will buy over time

[azure topaz]

just run more than one computer dude 😭

[frigid blade]

Naur, will cost more

[azure topaz]

a broadwell server is 80$

[frigid blade]

well i dont want more computers

[empty quartz]

I eated

@azure topaz why go broadwell when you can go 1366

[frigid blade]

I kinda wanna host gaming VMs for people, and they can pay to rent

[serene pumice]

without looking, broadwell is 5:th gen right?

[azure topaz]

and your plan is to do that on your main machine..?

yes

[frigid blade]

No, it was a joke, kinda

[serene pumice]

nice

[frigid blade]

Ill already be doing it for my gf when she goes to uni

they got gigabit internet there so she can just connect to my VM and play games

Since shes got a poopy GPU

[steel umbra]

so… buy the 1300w with cables

[frigid blade]

Yah I said I will no?

Er, maybe I didn’t but I added it to my cart

Thanks Floober

[hollow lily]

anybody know anything abt the 9800x3D and the clock speed?

[steel umbra]

it’s called firefox

[hollow lily]

it was running really high last night after my first time doing it but if i set it to 85 degrees will it stay there

[frigid blade]

Set what

[steel umbra]

you’re intentionally downclocking?

why

[frigid blade]

Oh max temp?

[steel umbra]

9800x3d is rated 95c 24/7 by amd and you have a warranty for that

[empty quartz]

@azure topaz hear me out

[frigid blade]

Why not just undervolt it?

If you’re worried about temps

[frigid blade]

What a shit price

[steel umbra]

what

[empty quartz]

?

[steel umbra]

ah yes shit price for few of kind product

[ocean axle]

can i get that in freedoms?

[frigid blade]

For what it is, it’s bad price

[steel umbra]

that many cad equals to about 68 pennies

[ocean axle]

why not just buy an R830?

[steel umbra]

no, it is normal price

[ocean axle]

probably cheaper than that board

[empty quartz]

Its a server board

[frigid blade]

The board itself is $1k CAD for quad socket?

[empty quartz]

@frigid blade find a cheaper server board like that

[frigid blade]

You can buy the r940 board and PEM for $600 USD

[ocean axle]

ok, bit more, but still, https://www.ebay.com/itm/256874011355, whole server

[empty quartz]

Im talking cad

[thorn cove]

I found a 4070TI for 500$, I dont know how it compares to the 9070xt but I am pretty unsure about this one since its used and I would be indirectly supporting NVIDIA...

[frigid blade]

The r940 board has the first 2 CPUs and the PEM has the other 2

[ocean axle]

yes, im aware, $1,173USD > $1257CAD, thats what i said

[hollow lily]

too hot

[steel umbra]

how hot

[ocean axle]

$1622 CAD, to be exactl, but again, rest of the fucking server

[frigid blade]

Still, $1k for a quad socket board?

[steel umbra]

$900*

[frigid blade]

Take a look at this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GrtD_TLXDmQMNDNAPJoeXBGeoXeq1ciubJYyG4p_0zc/edit?usp=sharing

I made it a week ago

[ocean axle]

oh, i guess it would me more correct to buy an R930, rather than R830

that board is for for E7s, not E5s\

[frigid blade]

Mainboard is $340, PEM $300, the connector for them is like $15

[ocean axle]

$700 (USD), rest of server, albeit no RAM/CPU
https://www.ebay.com/itm/286257871010

[frigid blade]

That board that he sent is really expensive for what it is providing

[ocean axle]

and the R930 is the same E7 4800/8800 v3/v4 CPUs

[steel umbra]

also consider aliexpress offrers 10-15% discounts

[ocean axle]

rest of the fucking server

[steel umbra]

yes

[frigid blade]

the photo shows the price after discount

[ocean axle]

with that said, why quad socket?

[frigid blade]

I cant believe they added 5+ is 3% discount 🤣

[distant frigate]

Just saw this. That’s cool.

[steel umbra]

that’s fake discount ignore

[distant frigate]

Hopefully T-Mobile begins to deploy it soon

[steel umbra]

focus on aliexpress and store coupons, coins

[west wagon]

i have over a 1gbps on mine in france since 3 years

[steel umbra]

that $10 from $15 is not real for example

[ocean axle]

thats uplink, not downlink

thats also using sub-6ghz bands, which reach further

[distant frigate]

This is probably the max download I can get from T-Mobile here

Upload though I think my max is 142 Mbps

[west wagon]

What is the difference

[ocean axle]

from phone to tower, not from tower to phone

[west wagon]

Download upload then

[ocean axle]

the tower has a lot more powerful transmitter

uplink/upload

[west wagon]

Why do you use use uplink

[frigid blade]

To upload stuff?

[ocean axle]

because thats what t-mobile said?

and also its measuring just the link (or, say, uplink) to the tower, not the whole chain

[distant frigate]

Increasing upload speed is definitely harder to achieve than download speed when it comes to cellular networks.

Upload speed is also a bit more affected by distance. So when you go farther away from a tower the first thing that’s going to decrease more is upload speed.

[night urchin]

hi

[frigid blade]

Last Christmas I gave you my heart

[night urchin]

woah

click this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381520882608373761/1162803532441866260/coolanimegirl.webm?ex=6834a42d&is=683352ad&hm=1b6dad7760f6c5cb154cc321477ed0eed016f71172191379580894cd9072a1ce&

[frigid blade]

I clicked it

[night urchin]

the video playing?

[frigid blade]

No is it high res?

[night urchin]

huh

click the video really cool vide

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/running-david-martinez-cyberpunk-edgerunners-attacking-combat-gif-26911830

[ocean axle]

ahh good, troll videos

[night urchin]

yup

ig

[frigid blade]

It didn’t work on mobile

[night urchin]

dam

[frigid blade]

Is this the variable sized video thing?

[limpid dune]

I love ryzen 💪 🔥

[frigid blade]

Where it bounces around

[night urchin]

yh

[ocean axle]

sorta, it just gets smaller

[night urchin]

yh

[frigid blade]

Ah

[steel umbra]

the bullzoder 8000??

[frigid blade]

I can play it in my browser but I doesn’t really work

It just gets wide

[limpid dune]

hell yeah bro, this thing is AMAZING if you're looking for a room heater. but remember, the CPU degrades above 60C

I'm using it rn (for the memes)

[steel umbra]

i don’t think it degrades at that temp but it throttles

yes, they’re much more heat sensitive but i don’t recall they degrade above 60c, i’d be worried at like 80c or more

[frigid blade]

bro my computer has nothing on it

I forgot the OS bricked last night

i installed windows 11 iot enterprise ltsc

because its less bloated

[ivory minnow]

Can anyone help me look for new earbuds 😭

no one is in #audio-tech

[ocean axle]

you should grab a quad G34 system for that

[sinful cobalt]

just like me under pressure

[limpid dune]

damn actually it seems like the FX-8350 defaults to a 45W TDP in this motherboard...?

[plush wren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1263591561841606656/1376284478456070275/attachment.gif

[fickle ivy]

Think I can run win11 on a 2nd gen i7 system.

It's got 8gb of ddr3

I'm guessing it can prob run win 10 but maybe win 11

[full nova]

can someone help me fix my pc

[frigid blade]

lets go

[upper hazel]

I can not boot into bios with dual ram please help i posted in support

[empty quartz]

Everybody

My new drink coaster has more capacity

500gb drink coaster

[lapis talon]

I asked Chatgpt to replace my old gpu with either the Sapphire Nitro+ 9070 XT and the Sapphire Pure 9070 XT and this is what I got 💀

[empty quartz]

🥶🥶🥶

[lapis talon]

For reference, this is the original image

[lapis talon]

Soooo, which one looks better 😭

Ignore the Nitro+ one there

Just imagine this is over there

[south arrow]

[steel umbra]

it considered sag 😂

[lapis talon]

AYO 😭😭

[plush wren]

[steel umbra]

the second pic’s fan blades look really nicely constructed, which model is it?

[south arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-window-cute-neko-couple-gif-9957984438477863240

[plush wren]

good night team

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blast-off-launch-cat-jumping-into-camera-gif-6639037559618288527

[surreal cipher]

I like how those Sapphire Radeon 9070 XT's look, I went for a Gigabyte one though since my last 3 graphics cards were from them and they seem reliable to me.

[lapis talon]

Sapphire Pure 9070 XT

[steel umbra]

i meant version of chatgreedbeetee

[lapis talon]

Oh like what AI I used to generate it?

[steel umbra]

yes

[lapis talon]

I was gonna go for a gigabyte but the White + black theme of the Sapphire pure just made me lock onto that

[lapis talon]

Chatgpt 💀

[steel umbra]

version

[lapis talon]

Lemme check

[lapis talon]

GPT-4o

[surreal cipher]

If my case had a side window, I probably would have gone for one of those as well. I can't see the inside of my PC while the case is shut though so the way that the Gigabyte one looked wasn't a problem in the end. I went for the Aorus Elite 9070 XT.

[steel umbra]

hmm didn’t know it could construct fan blades so well (for an ai)

[lapis talon]

Ooo niceee, I really wanted the Aorus one but no stock here 😭

[gleaming rose]

https://youtu.be/7fNYj0EXxMs?si=VuspELUJmUeMOqWT

[lapis talon]

I was just hoping for a white and black piece of brick that looked identical

[surreal cipher]

I was slightly concerned since this is an OC model with high power usage compared to some of the others, but it seems to be fine. Its stable and quiet anyway

[gleaming rose]

I may build one of these

[lapis talon]

Heard that the Aorus had some issues when you installed gigabytes software

[surreal cipher]

I haven't even bothered installing that, I can't see the RGB lights on the graphics card anyhow due to my lack of a side window in the case lol. Never felt the need to configure it.

I just installed the AMD driver/software and called it a day.

[lapis talon]

Ah I see

But rn, I'm really torn between the Sapphire pure and the Sapphire nitro

Dunno which one to get

Nitro has a few concerning points like the connector, reduced cooling capacity than the standard old pulse and the price being $100USD over the Pure

[surreal cipher]

If one of them has the normal PCIE power connectors instead of the single larger connector, I would go for that one personally.

[static oyster]

i have a 4070 super when do you think ill need to upgrade

[lapis talon]

I was thinking that if I spend a bit more on the gpu right now, it'll hopefully last me longer in the long run

[lapis talon]

Pure has it, a 2x8 pin connector

[surreal cipher]

I would probably get that one then if I was choosing between them. Mine has 3x 8 pin connectors and I prefer that over the single larger connector

[steel umbra]

yeah ai is too stoopid for that

[lapis talon]

I'll need to do a lot of bending for the cable of 12VHPWR in my pc case just because of how sapphire decided to put the connector on the back of the gpu

[surreal cipher]

Whenever it starts struggling with a game that you want to play. I only upgraded from a 2080 a few weeks ago.

[lapis talon]

Although the Sapphire nitro comes with an adapter (3x8 pin to 12-2x6pin)

[static oyster]

thats fair

[static oyster]

did you upgrade Cpu/ram/mobo and GPU or just GPU

[lapis talon]

My upgrade will be bigger, currently using a 2060 super 💀

[surreal cipher]

Yeah I don't tend to pre-emptively upgrade my GPU. I just upgrade when I start having to lower my settings too much to keep things playable.

[static oyster]

came from intel HD 😭

[lapis talon]

Same

[surreal cipher]

I did change the CPU/RAM/Mobo as well. I went from a Core i7 8700, 32GB RAM, RTX 2080 to Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 64GB RAM, Radeon 9070 XT

[static oyster]

dGPU and iGPU are like night and day

[lapis talon]

Frrrr

[static oyster]

Yeah thats kinda what im scared for cause im on a 13700K but i know im gonna have to jump to amd 😭

[surreal cipher]

I doubt your CPU would bottleneck a graphics card (meaningfully I mean) for awhile at least. Its nowhere near as old as my old one was. Might become a problem in 2 or 3 years perhaps

Probably longer

[static oyster]

hopefully it wont burn itself alive first

[lapis talon]

Does your 4070 use a 12v connector

[static oyster]

Uhhh the just one cord one right

[lapis talon]

Ye

[static oyster]

yeah it does

[lapis talon]

The ominous looking one

[static oyster]

its a founders edition

[lapis talon]

Faced any problems with installation?

[lapis talon]

Oooo nice

[static oyster]

nope it was all good

[lapis talon]

Ohh

[static oyster]

probably shouldve bought cable extensions it looks like crap but it works

Im using the one that came with my PSU that like clicks when its all the way in so you dont cook your GPU

[lapis talon]

That's the reason why I want the Sapphire pure

But after looking at this

[static oyster]

holy sh that thing is gorgeous

[lapis talon]

Maybe the white doesn't really to well with black

[lapis talon]

It isn't ik 😭

[static oyster]

yeah just buy extensions they're like nothing

[static oyster]

nono i meant the card I googled it

[lapis talon]

Yeah it's sick

[lapis talon]

Yeah have a custom design in mind

[static oyster]

whyd you pick 9070 over 9070 XT

[hollow creek]

yeeeeeeee displaying that "PURE" like a real gamer move

[surreal cipher]

lol one thing did make me laugh, When I was shopping for my 9070 XT, I saw some kawaii/waifu ones with pictures of anime girls on them.

[static oyster]

its amd theres so many

[surreal cipher]

I mean, enough people must be buying them if they are making them...

[lapis talon]

That's supposed to be the XT version but AI is too dumb for this

[lapis talon]

Well my prompt was bad

[static oyster]

oh shoot thats AI

[lapis talon]

Yeston 💀

[static oyster]

i high key didnt even notice

[static oyster]

speaking of how much did yours run you

[lapis talon]

Check the AIO block 💀💀

[surreal cipher]

Yep, those ones. I did find it quite funny although I wouldn't buy one

[static oyster]

hahaha no branding 😭

[lapis talon]

I could never get one of those

[lapis talon]

It's a grey block of nothing 😭

But how does the build look with a white gpu

[static oyster]

It looks alright

it looks kinda out of place but if you get some like white extensions and other white parts

[steel umbra]

nzxt c8 reminds me of that Veritasium video

[surreal cipher]

It was around £640 if I remember right, not an awful price

[lapis talon]

This is my current gpu

[lapis talon]

Which one 💀

[static oyster]

thats not bad almost MSRP

[surreal cipher]

Yeah. slightly higher than MSRP but not much

[steel umbra]

newest

[lapis talon]

The first part is easy, the other one will be expensive

[static oyster]

got my 4070 Super founders for $600 (freedom dollars)

[lapis talon]

Haven't watched it yet sadly

[steel umbra]

https://youtu.be/SC2eSujzrUY?

[static oyster]

yeah high key id say just go for it

[lapis talon]

Im boutta buy it for $900

[static oyster]

performance matters most you can work other stuff out later

[static oyster]

i was gonna tweak but that isnt bad

[lapis talon]

Oh yeah was gonna watch this but had exams at the time

[lapis talon]

That's horrible tbh

$150+ over MSRP

[static oyster]

yeah nevermind

i was thinking nvidia

[lapis talon]

But no other choice in my area

[static oyster]

wait what

[lapis talon]

The Sapphire Nitro is $1000ish

PNY rtx 5070ti is $1050

[static oyster]

Powercolor at 1050 😭

[static oyster]

holy sh fr?

[lapis talon]

Power color isn't even in stock in my region

[lapis talon]

Yup

[static oyster]

those are supposed to be the cheap ones 😭

[lapis talon]

I could go for the 5070ti but I really don't want Nvidia this time

[lapis talon]

Ainnoway bruhhhh 💀

[static oyster]

yeah im scared for whenever I have to upgrade

[lapis talon]

A 4070 super here is around $750 to $1300

[static oyster]

wheres here

[lapis talon]

USD

[surreal cipher]

I have heard its quite rough on the Nvidia side at the moment.

[lapis talon]

Bangladeshi

[surreal cipher]

Driver instability for the most part.

[lapis talon]

Worse than rough

[surreal cipher]

Maybe Nvidia are using AI to write their drivers, lol.

Wouldn't put it past them...

[static oyster]

I've also heard that but my 4070S is doing fine

[lapis talon]

4090 performance for $549 type of rough

[static oyster]

me either atp

[static oyster]

with dlss4 on* aah

[surreal cipher]

I have heard its mostly just the newer cards that are havint peoblems. I think drivers for the older cards are quite stable.

[lapis talon]

And still manages to suffer*

[surreal cipher]

My 2080 seems to be running just fine at the moment, I gave it to my mum after buying the 9070 XT.

[static oyster]

my pc like crashed the other day but idk if that was a GPU issue

[static oyster]

what does your mom need a 2080 for 😭

[lapis talon]

That's nice, at least it isn't there inside a drawer or smth

[surreal cipher]

She likes strategy games, currently stuff like Tempest Rising

[static oyster]

still feels like 20fps*

[lapis talon]

8gb vram*

[surreal cipher]

but yeah strictly speaking she doesn't really NEED a 2080, but its better than it being unused gathering dust somewhere.

[static oyster]

ok good i was gonna cry if it was like "chrome browsing"

[static oyster]

no yeah fs

[steel umbra]

fortnite

roblox

[lapis talon]

GTA 4

[static oyster]

the m-series macs make me so happy

[steel umbra]

among us is better

fall guys

[lapis talon]

But guys, for a split second, how do you think the Sapphire Nitro+ would look instead of this

[static oyster]

high key a lot better

[lapis talon]

Among Us UE5 edition

[static oyster]

but honestly get whichever one is cheaper 😭

[lapis talon]

Yeahhh but

[static oyster]

we in the trenches we cant be bothered with how it looks

[steel umbra]

yesss totally makes sense

[surreal cipher]

I mean, the machine she had before was a 2014 Mac Mini, so my old i7 8700 + RTX 2080 is an insane upgrade over that for her

[lapis talon]

IDEK ANYMORE, gotta make a decision by today, might get the gpu tomorrow

[lapis talon]

I'd take the old Mac mini if it's free 💀

[static oyster]

dang leagues better

[static oyster]

homelab 🙏

[surreal cipher]

I have no idea what I am going to do with it yet, but if I decide to get rid of it I'll keep that in mind ^^

[lapis talon]

It'll be better than some laptops these days 😭

[lapis talon]

I live on the other side of the world so you don't really need to keep it in mind 💀

[static oyster]

yes fr 😭

[surreal cipher]

haha, I doubt I will get rid of it anyway

I like collecting and playing with old machines.

[lapis talon]

If I do get the cheaper card aka the Sapphire pure, I can easily afford a new monitor

[static oyster]

I wish i could

[static oyster]

no brainer

[lapis talon]

But if I were to get the nitro+, things might get a bit harder

[static oyster]

where do you get them from 👀

[lapis talon]

Will the 2x8pins cause a problem

[static oyster]

I dont think it would just make sure your PSU can handle it

[surreal cipher]

A mix of places. Some of them are my old machines that I used back when they were new, some I bought from ebay, I think this specific Mac Mini, my workplace gave it to me because it would have been scrapped otherwise.

[lapis talon]

Yeah recently got the Nzxt one so it'll hopefully be fine

Speaking of my psu, it has really bad coil whine and idk what to do

[static oyster]

yeah just check the wattage and make sure you have the right cables and it shouldnt matter

[lapis talon]

Even when the pc is turned off

[lapis talon]

Will do 🫡

[steel umbra]

yeah i see people shitting on nzxt way too often despite their nzxt gold series being really decent for the price they drop at times

[static oyster]

I really wanna get into homelabbing but I high key dont wanna drop money on a machine (even if its less than $100 im poor)

[surreal cipher]

I do also have an old 2012 Mac Mini lying around, which I actually bought myself back when it was new. I had to develop an iOS app for a University assignment, and I could never find a mac to use for long enough to do useful development in the university library.

[static oyster]

im sorry

[surreal cipher]

2012 i5 Mac mini was the cheapest (new) mac that money could buy at the time I think, ha

[lapis talon]

The only problem I've had with it is the coil whine and the quality of the connectors but other than that, it's low-key a steal

[static oyster]

dont forget the developer subscription

[surreal cipher]

I didn't have to actually publish the app to the store, so thankfully I didn't have to pay that

[lapis talon]

Oh wow

[static oyster]

oh dude just use a normal machine 💀

you dont need a mac you can just emulate it

[steel umbra]

coil whine is not exactly nzxt’s issue, it can vary unit to unit and how much load

[lapis talon]

Yeah but this is the first time a psu has had coil whine even when the pc is turned off for me

[surreal cipher]

This was actually back in 2012... it was the latest mac mini at the time. Sadly back then you simply needed a mac to make iOS apps

[static oyster]

oh thats fair my condolences for lack of open source software 😦

[surreal cipher]

I only learned one thing from that module to be honest... I hate Objective C and Swift, although I hate Objective C more than Swift lol

[idle basalt]

Guys I need some advice

[lapis talon]

And the other part about the quality of the connectors, it feels like Nzxt spent all their budget on the packaging and forgot about the connectors

[static oyster]

speaking straight facts

[static oyster]

what language you dev in

[surreal cipher]

For my job I mostly work with PHP, but I also know C++ pretty well for personal projects. I like developing game console emulators as a hobby

[lapis talon]

Also can someone check the Asus XG27ACG out?

[steel umbra]

that sucks, and as for the shitty connectors i assume they’re stiff, the plastic at the connectors feels like lego and the pins inside are not exactly perfectly aligned?

[static oyster]

as a HOBBY 😭 😭

[lapis talon]

Don't see any reviews on it online

[lapis talon]

Yup, exactly right

[static oyster]

PHP im so sorry for your loss

[surreal cipher]

lol, I just wanted to learn how my childhood game consoles worked internally, specifically the Sega Master System and Mega Drive/Genesis. Its pretty cool to see my old favourite games running inside my own program.

[static oyster]

that actually sounds awesome ngl-any of them open source or just hobby stuff

[idle basalt]

I need some help 🙏

[static oyster]

with what

[lapis talon]

I had forcefully close the back panel with all my strength because the cables just wouldn't want to stay in their places

[lapis talon]

That's not very informative

[idle basalt]

Yeah, I didn’t wanna put an essay in the chat

[surreal cipher]

I did open source my Master System emulator although I would be doxxing myself if I posted it here, my MD/Genesis emulator isn't open sourced yet though because its pretty early in development still

[lapis talon]

Then how are people supposed to help

[surreal cipher]

I think I enjoy using C++ more than PHP, although PHP isn't dreadful.. it has improved a lot since the PHP 5.x days

[static oyster]

Yeah I have a PHP book then I proceeded to learn Go instead 😛

[idle basalt]

My computer only works outside the case I assumed it’s shorting (which is why I put it outside it) but even when it’s outside the case it will not boot

[static oyster]

take it all apart then try again

[surreal cipher]

I have been thinking of getting into game development for fun, I used to make games a really long time ago in Dark Basic and Game Maker. I am tempted to try out Godot.

[idle basalt]

I have three times

[static oyster]

Make your own engine you probably could

[surreal cipher]

I did make a couple of simple games for fun in C++ with SFML as well, but nothing big

[static oyster]

use unreal you already know C++ lol

[surreal cipher]

For a hobby I think I'd rather use an open source engine, which is why I was thinking of Godot

I haven't used C# in like 15+ years but I have used it before and remember mostly what to expect. The last time I was using it, I played with XNA game development.

[static oyster]

You could also just use GDScript

[static oyster]

I love C#

[surreal cipher]

I remember liking the C# language itself, but XNA had some pretty nasty limitations which is why I stopped using it

not a fault of the language itself.

[static oyster]

Yeah they depreciated it so I havent even used it before

solid language though

[surreal cipher]

Good point about GDScript... my mind immediately went to using C# since its a "real"/well used programming language

but if GDScript is powerful enough, might be fine using that.

I'll have a look at it first rather than jumping right to C#.

[static oyster]

i dont know much about godot but from what im aware its kinda like lua and the godot api is like built in

idk about performance vs C# though or if it matters much

[static oyster]

good idea

[surreal cipher]

I think you can use C++ in Godot as well, I saw it on the website amusingly

Apparently its not really recommended though because it adds some complexity.

[static oyster]

You can use a lot of things cause its open source

[static oyster]

well its C++

[surreal cipher]

Amusingly, when I open sourced my Master System emulator, I did actually get a bug report. Somebody actually tried using it ha.

It was having graphics rendering issues in Phantasy Star. There was a bug in the CPU emulation which was causing it. I actually did fix it too.

[static oyster]

what graphics api did you use

[surreal cipher]

I used SFML. I know its not quite as commonly used as SDL but its what I know

SFML is a library which wraps to OpenGL (For graphics)

[static oyster]

Yeah ive messed with that a little before

[surreal cipher]

I like their API, since its C++/class based

whereas SDL is old school C

[static oyster]

Ew

[static oyster]

yes i used it a little in C#

ngl I like the old school C feel

[distant frigate]

https://fixupx.com/techlife32/status/1926809069861364002?s=46

Tech life Channel (@Techlife32)

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Strand mounted small cells. Interesting

I don’t see those in my city lol

I see this in my city but nothing more fancy

[steel umbra]

i like c# too

[surreal cipher]

I am much more comfortable with object oriented languages since its just what I am used to, but I have played with C a bit and I can see the appeal. C is extremely fast and portable, even compared to C++

I know a lot of C programmers complain about C++ being bloated and too complex.

Which I can kinda agree with....

I like C++ but they're not wrong, it has a massive complex spec.

[steel umbra]

c++ is way too much for my brain

[surreal cipher]

I have no idea how I managed to get used to it to be honest. Now I am pretty good/fluent with it but I do remember running into the typical struggles with memory management etc when I first started.

[steel umbra]

big respect

[surreal cipher]

I have never tried using it but I have heard that people are pushing Rust as a replacement for C++ now.

I'll try it out one day but I haven't had the time to yet.

[steel umbra]

yeah rust is a bit overhyped currently so…

[surreal cipher]

That has crossed my mind, some of the biggest pushers of it do seem very cult-like lol.

I haven't really been in a rush to try it out since I am quite comfortable with C++, but it seems to be common now to hate on C++ and push Rust as much as possible.

[steel umbra]

it has it’s advantages and disadvantages over other language ofc

[surreal cipher]

I have heard that it has much nicer/automatic memory management

Seems to be the main reason people like it.

[static oyster]

Yeah thats exactly what I was saying but ngl im not smart enough to use DMA and stuff

[static oyster]

which is why i use go

[static oyster]

its blazingly fast guys

[steel umbra]

here we go 😂

[static oyster]

i say that as someone who never has used rust

[surreal cipher]

I remember trying to learn Go a few years ago, I applied for a job and the main language they used was Go, and I didn't know it. (Application said as long as the applicant has programming experience and are willing to learn, go for it...)

The syntax was very strange compared to C++, but it seemed decent

Although, I wonder if Go programmers aren't common or something

since they didn't say I needed to know Go, it was more "If you have experience in other languages and are willing to learn Go, you're welcome to apply"

[steel umbra]

i think it’s amongst the top 10 most popular and paid programming languages

[surreal cipher]

oh, interesting

[static oyster]

yeah idk if they are either i havent seen or met very many (i retract this statement)

[surreal cipher]

Well, I suppose it makes sense to open the job up to anybody who has programming experience and is willing to learn

I guess anybody with years of programming experience should be able to learn/adapt to different languages easily.

[static oyster]

Go is really easy to learn ngl I taught myself in like a couple hours

[surreal cipher]

Yeah I remember the experience was similar for me

once I got over the weird syntax, I ported my C++ Chip-8 emulator to it after a couple of days

Haven't used it since then though because I didn't get the job haha

[static oyster]

haha thats fair 😭

[surreal cipher]

I remember when I was in university they made me learn a language called Haskell.

That was a very strange and annoyingly strict language. I have never used it again since leaving university either.

I think the teacher/lecturer was just a big fan of functional programming.

[mint umbra]

think im gunna sell my gpu and just game with a cheaper gpu

[distant frigate]

https://www.reddit.com/r/FiberOptics/s/6my4qujai5

Turning the light on and off is basically 1’s and 0’s

That’s a very simple explanation of it though

Not only do we turn it off and on. We also modulate how bright the light is. We also change how quickly it turns on/off

[empty quartz]

@steel umbra one of my rx 570’s just blew up

[steel umbra]

looks like it has been dropped as well

what did you do to it before it blew up

uhh and what exactly happened

any funny modding?

[empty quartz]

Nope

[empty quartz]

Turned on the pc

[steel umbra]

whar happen

[empty quartz]

I turned on the pc, heard a noise, and then smelled the funny smoke

[shrewd blaze]

Was that before or after you lit the funny cigarette?

[empty quartz]

That literally just happened

[steel umbra]

open the card

[upper hazel]

i need help i cant boot with 2 ran https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1376348583237914796

[steel umbra]

maybe the card is still salvegable if you have soldering skills and no high voltage was sent to the core or memory

[empty quartz]

When i opened up the system… i plugged in back in, and powered it on, and saw a spark come out of that spot

[shrewd blaze]

Remove one and boot . Make sure PC is oof before removing one stuck.

[empty quartz]

@steel umbra

[junior valve]

classic radeon

[steel umbra]

oh cmon after the black smoke? 💀

[empty quartz]

No black smoke

Just a funny smell

[upper hazel]

what

[steel umbra]

yeah… that would require some a lot of pcb repair

rip

ewaste now

[empty quartz]

Nah, too much work for a $12.50 cad gpu

[shrewd blaze]

If your PC will not boot with two sticks of ram remove one. Get it stable in the Bios . Then reinsert the other. If it still fails to boot you likely have a bad stick of ram.

[upper hazel]

i have all info in the post. both stick are fine

[steel umbra]

honestly if you paid that much you can sell it for parts

[shrewd blaze]

You bought a gpu for 13 dollars?

[steel umbra]

just list the issue because nobody wants to buy a damaged pcb, dead core and mem

[junior valve]

you can probably sell it as broken for 20$

[empty quartz]

Probably

[steel umbra]

it depends on how ethical you are

[junior valve]

fan spins but no post

[steel umbra]

no need to list all of the details of what happened to the card!

[junior valve]

paint over the exposed pcb

[steel umbra]

nah, tell them it came like that from the factory

[junior valve]

“i dropped it”

my fans geeking out again

[west wagon]

Your sign to get be quiet fans

[steel umbra]

that would reduce potential buyers, the best way to say this: some accidental pressure to a spot of the card was applied due to a gravitational pull

[west wagon]

And if they refuse you tell them "gravitational pull of your mom"

[junior valve]

they look like nzxt

[halcyon plank]

What are the odds this is real

Says it’s working

[trim gyro]

definitely real

[junior valve]

no gpu included

the die

[halcyon plank]

Hmmm true

[west wagon]

They say card in the name

Can't hurt to try honestly you have buyer safety warranties on this right

[steel umbra]

1e-50

[steel umbra]

i would agree if they allow you to test it in your pc ideally before mone

or come testin the card in person

[mint umbra]

looking to sell xtx for a 1080p gpu whats a good one

going back to 1080p res

[steel umbra]

why

[hard wren]

how bad is this current fan setup? theres a 120mm on the bottom also sucking in air

[shrewd blaze]

Something needs to pull out......

[hard wren]

so like this?

[mint umbra]

Cuz 4k isnt worth it

[shrewd blaze]

Yes or out the back

[hard wren]

theres no fans out the back 💀

goofy ahh sff layout moment 💔

[shrewd blaze]

Ok

[hidden hill]

is it normal for a pc to get loud af during shader comp

shit was so loud

[latent pasture]

yes

it needs high perf for that so it doesnt have to do it again later
if ur pc is loud thats ur fan curve's problem

[winter lantern]

Is throttling normal when you're just web browsing

It makes sense why it would

[surreal cipher]

Mine does usually.

I think its because it puts a lot of strain on the CPU

[spring latch]

"See, if i poke the cable right through the radio antenna, while most of the picks end is sticking out, the antennas metal is touching thr co-axial cables metal"

I actually tested this

it fucking works

i can walk all around the original antenna, and theres NO STATIC ANYMORE

[left dove]

..?

[swift moss]

Yes

Mine gets quite loud with a 3 fan GPU and a nhd15

[bleak cove]

what's the best cpu for a 4070 ti super

[random gyro]

Ryzen 9 9950X3D

[steel umbra]

am5 for upgradability

[bleak cove]

that's too overkill

[grizzled frost]

you asked what the best cpu was, and that’s it

[fast girder]

Can anyone answer a few questions i have about building an retro gaming pc. (TLDR; i tried, didnt work, gave up, i want to try and understand why)

[grizzled frost]

https://dontasktoask.com

[bitter rampart]

What do y'all think the time to retire a UPS is?

Mine just hit 22 years

[trim gyro]

when it starts beeping loud

[grizzled frost]

when it stops working- nvm, about a decade ago in your case

[bitter rampart]

Uh

[grizzled frost]

average life expectancy is like 5 years

[bitter rampart]

Well it doesn't do much, just keeps my light strip powered

[bitter rampart]

That's the battery life, not the actual unit

[grizzled frost]

not uncommon for them to push past that, but 22 years is just downright impressive

[grizzled frost]

if the battery dies, it ain’t a UPS anymore

[trim gyro]

just a power supply

[bitter rampart]

Until you replace the battery

Which I've done 4 times now

[trim gyro]

that's fine

[bitter rampart]

Strangest brand too

[grizzled frost]

then i reiterate my “when it stops working” answer

[trim gyro]

I have one that's been in service for about 13 years now

[grizzled frost]

longest running one i have so far is 6 years

newest being about 1 year

[bitter rampart]

It's this thing, but the OG one like I have the power button is gray

[trim gyro]

funky

mines from APC

[bitter rampart]

Just replaced batteries in 3 today

[fast girder]

so i found this Pentium dual core Dell pc at the local dump... 4gb ram, im trying to turn it to a retro gaming pc. i just cant get windows 98 to install on it. i assume it had to do with it being too new (too much ram that i know for sure) but now it is also struggling installing windows xp.
so my question is, what would prevent from windows 98 (besides ram, and 2gb drive limit, i know that much) or windows XP to be installed on that system?

[bitter rampart]

Ah yes a day after I submit a warranty claim for the dead ring doorbell

Imagine ring scamming me like that

My account was made in 2018 too so like what

[bitter rampart]

I find 98 to be too much of a hassle

[spring latch]

sing myok so I just shoved a frayed radio antenna into the coaxial jack
Before:
13 Channels

With the FM/AM Antenna:
WE HAVE 33 CHANNELS

[barren birch]

UNIFI FTW