tech-chat-1

[raw trout]

That

[fallen sky]

Only selling point for Samsungs (newer only) are for the camera and debug tools

I prefer a cleaner and ease of use phone tbh

Ts smooth but unfortunately it’s only 60hz

Doesn’t matter much though

Expected a higher refresh rate for a 15

[raw trout]

At oneplus we got 120 hz or 60 hz

[fallen sky]

First android I’ve ever seen without buttons for home back and whatever the one on the right usually is

Buttons on screen

[raw trout]

It's been there for a while

Android 12 i think

[marble chasm]

I think i prefer apples version, with just pure black

[raw trout]

Same

[fallen sky]

Prob cuz the last android I had was 5 years ago

there was a circle triangle and square

[raw trout]

You can still have that of you want

[fallen sky]

Eh

[empty quartz]

as much as i love my 3d printer, i hate how much it heats my room

[fallen sky]

3D print a 3D printer

[marble chasm]

My $300 samsung has 120hz thats crazy

[fallen sky]

What can i say except branding

[empty quartz]

no

[fallen sky]

yes

[empty quartz]

i dont need another

[marble chasm]

Watercool it

[empty quartz]

...

[marble chasm]

Using your pool

[empty quartz]

you're being satirical, right?

[fallen sky]

No food in my fridge

[marble chasm]

Ligit solution

[empty quartz]

no

[marble chasm]

Sorry for your loss sir

[marble chasm]

Put it in a minifridge that will solve your issue

[mint umbra]

So apparently the laptop I ordered only comes in the French layout in Canada

That makes no sense

[fallen sky]

Y

[mint umbra]

When most of our country speaks English

[marble chasm]

Keyboard layout?

[mint umbra]

Yeah

[fallen sky]

The layout

[mint umbra]

It's so dumb

[marble chasm]

Do they use AZERTY?

[empty quartz]

@marble chasm firstly; thats not how that works
secondly; 3d printers need to be hot to melt the plastic

fridges dont cool like a pc does

[marble chasm]

Just the plastic needs to be hot silly

[empty quartz]

nor do freezers

[empty quartz]

you cant get the plastic hot if you're cooling the hot end

[raw trout]

3d print a 3d printer lid and a exhaust pipe out of flexible pla

[marble chasm]

Now were talking

[raw trout]

The fan on the head spreads the hear

Heat

[empty quartz]

thats different though

[fallen sky]

Do I really want to make oatmeal at 10:00

[raw trout]

Yes cu ur hungry

[marble chasm]

Make an egg

[fallen sky]

Bleh

[thorn pewter]

Make omelet

[raw trout]

Omlette

[thorn pewter]

They are so good

[marble chasm]

omelette is so much more effort

[fallen sky]

What in the world would I put in it

I only have eggs

[marble chasm]

put the oats in it

[raw trout]

Lazy

[raw trout]

Salt and pepper

[marble chasm]

that is not an omlette

[fallen sky]

Usually I’ll have Avacado and bacon

[raw trout]

Nic

[fallen sky]

But rn I’m at an ingredient household

[raw trout]

👍

[fallen sky]

I don’t do nicotine

[marble chasm]

bell peppers and mushrooms and bacon are my go tos

[raw trout]

I wanted to say nice

[empty quartz]

@raw trout watercooling is only really effective at bringing temps down, for something like a 3d printer; you'll end up using far more power to keep the nozzle at the same temperature than with just air cooling

[marble chasm]

sounds like a lot of complaining tbh

[raw trout]

I said exhaust

[fallen sky]

Peppers have no flavor and mushrooms are weird

[raw trout]

They just spice

[marble chasm]

bell peppers have lots of flavor

i would never put spicy peppers in an omelette

i'm not gonna try to deny the mushroom allegations

[fallen sky]

I must have defective taste buds

[thorn pewter]

Or just eat and be grateful🤷‍♀️

[marble chasm]

dude I could eat one like an apple

[fallen sky]

What the hell do I eat

I have uncooked noodles and some eggs and cookies 😭🙏

And oats

[lethal bay]

What kinda noodles

[fallen sky]

macaroni

[thorn pewter]

Boil water add salt and make it boil pour them in and make yourself some Mac and cheese

[fallen sky]

What cheese

Don’t have any cheese

[marble chasm]

substitute cheese with raw egg

[thorn pewter]

Which ever, you can get permasuan cheese or cheddar

Really almost any cheese would work

[fallen sky]

what money

[thorn pewter]

Bro

[fallen sky]

Not going to the store rn

I have school in the morning

I need to fix my sleep schedule

[marble chasm]

This conversation is in "tech chat" 😭

[fallen sky]

Sure is

[trim gyro]

you should mix various cheeses for macaroni & cheese

[fallen sky]

What. Cheese.

Imaginary

[empty quartz]

:3

[fallen sky]

That’s what I would do

Good going

[marble chasm]

what is being constructed here

[alpine heron]

anyone know the ways to install win11 offline these days?

[fallen sky]

You can’t?

[empty quartz]

You cant

[empty quartz]

A mount

[alpine heron]

needing to reinstall and being locked out of a the desktop makes it pretty darn hard to actually get drivers and whatnot to establish a conneciton

[marble chasm]

you can bypass it using console commands

[alpine heron]

that seems to have ebeeeen removed

[empty quartz]

<@&750150305383186585>

[fallen sky]

Alrightttt

OATMEAL IT IS

[marble chasm]

maybe, it worked for me a few months ago when I built my pc

[marble chasm]

a mount for what exactly

[empty quartz]

Drive

[marble chasm]

neat

[fallen sky]

Time to also learn how sites make money reselling windows keys for cheap

[marble chasm]

real ones use MAS

ah I didn't read reselling

ah I didnd't read the masage at all

[fallen sky]

People need to learn how to distinguish AI from real 😭😭😭😭😭

Ts not intelligent animals granny

[raw trout]

Old people and face book moms be like

[marble chasm]

crazy how people can train dogs to do that 🤯

[raw trout]

Yeah

[fallen sky]

It’s a marvel

[marble chasm]

they kind of stop becoming dogs the further in the shape you look

and who knows what language that is in the back

[fallen sky]

ts oatmeal coming together

Anyone have laptop recommendations for college

MacBooks are fine but they cost a ton

[marble chasm]

for what purposes

[fallen sky]

Windows laptops are good but fan can be loud

[fallen sky]

just for general usage..

Notes, essays, fooling around

[marble chasm]

yeah macbook is good if you can afford it

[fallen sky]

heavy emphasis on the if

[marble chasm]

Install noctua fans in an HP laptop

[thorn pewter]

Acer 3 , cheap effective neat

Or buy a 3060 Msi used on facebook marketplace for 500ish lol

[marble chasm]

Is that truly necessary for notes/essays?

[fallen sky]

There’s also the tomfoolery bit

[marble chasm]

I see

[fallen sky]

Maybe I wanna sneak in some Minecraft 🤫

[marble chasm]

Are you keeping the current pc?

[solid swift]

I decided I wanted to run a raid 0 with a bunch of sata ssd's for a steam library. I picked out a bunch that I'm buying from the ewaste facility I work at. These drives work, but is the 500gb 860 evo good for putting in a raid? Cause we also got a bunch of intel drives from 100gb to 1.92tb, but I have no idea if intel drives are good.

[quasi field]

That’s crazy how all those animals were trained to go in a circle like that

[quasi field]

That looks juicy

[fallen sky]

Thinking of selling, I’m getting bored of playing video games

[quasi field]

How much did they cost?

[fallen sky]

My used tower + 2 monitors n headphones and allat jazz is probably somewhere between 1.2-1.5k

[soft gulch]

hi guys

[fallen sky]

mccopra

[soft gulch]

what is a better upgrade path for me i have 11700kf and recently picked up a 4070 super

[solid swift]

Whatever 50% of what they are going on ebay for is. Havent paid yet. Most of them havent even been wiped yet.

[marble chasm]

5090

[wintry cedar]

Lost display all of a sudden and after restart the resolution was all out of whack. Updated graphic drivers, resolution was back to normal, after a few minutes display went out again and had to restart but this time the resolution didn't change. What could possibly be causing this? Device Manager says Error 22 and when following the steps to resolve the error it then turns to Code 31 (Cannot load drivers) but when trying to update or reinstall drivers it says its up to date.

[soft gulch]

cpu upgrade to a 7900 Ryzen ? or 9600x

[quasi field]

How much do they all cost? That’s a lot of storage

[marble chasm]

#1027757333117415424

[soft gulch]

dont want my house to burn

[solid swift]

Just crunched some numbers. The total will be around $250.

[marble chasm]

I heard 7900 is good

[quasi field]

That’s fantastic wth

That’s like 20tb of storage maybe

[solid swift]

Thats for 8x 500gb 860 evo, 3x 500gb 870 evo, 2x 1tb 860 evo, and 1x 2tb 870 evo.

[quasi field]

9.5tb and roughly 1k if bought new or 600ish on eBay

[solid swift]

I could also just pick out some of the many 6tb sata hdd's for like 50%off average ebay price. But I want more speed.

https://tenor.com/view/speed-i-am-speed-lightning-mcqueen-cars-meme-gif-14031708

[quasi field]

That 2tb looks juicy

[solid swift]

My eyes actually widened when I found that. We have like 16 total >1tb drives, most of them intel and hp tho. But we do have 864 somethings from samsung. They dont have any cache tho, so I didnt choose them.

[fallen sky]

tbh watching Linus’ secret shopper videos is good for future reference if you need to call a company for help

what the hell is wrong with dell why is it such a mess

[solid swift]

I built my own. I am da tech support. Just me and google ai, lol.

For 8 hours

[fallen sky]

Google? Why not GPT

[solid swift]

Solving simple problem

[fallen sky]

I have gpt plus for a month cuz of college student discount or whatever and this thing is HITTING

[solid swift]

Google ai search results. Dont give enough effs to use a dedicated chat bot.

[fallen sky]

Breh

[solid swift]

Also dont trust AI.

Whatsoever

0 faith.

[fallen sky]

but u use it

[solid swift]

Yeah, to find the things its referencing

[fallen sky]

Gpt does that

If I give someone my pc specs can they tell me how much I should sell my pc for

[solid swift]

Can sometimes be usefull to just look at the references, cause some are genuinely helpfull

[marble chasm]

It really just summarizes a bunch of articles

[solid swift]

Yes, and some of those articles are helpfull

Saves me some time

[marble chasm]

Forum posts as well, so not super trustworthy sometimes

[solid swift]

Dont have to search for those articles

[young crest]

Hallucinations aren’t real they can’t hurt you

cough

[solid swift]

Yes, I always say, if you have a problem, there's likely some dude who had it solved in a reddit or forum post from atleast 7 years ago, lol. Especially with AV stuff.

[solid swift]

They can and they will

(Takes edible)

[young crest]

drugs (insert laugh track here)

[marble chasm]

I can relate, especially in coding/game design shenanigans

[frail delta]

Used M1 Air

[shut elbow]

i thought siege was a cpu bound game?

[fallen sky]

Hell nah gng

[young crest]

damn ur gpu runs cold lmao

[shut elbow]

slight graphical changes

[shut elbow]

liquid nitrogen qwuantum cooling

[marble chasm]

Tim cook propaganda

[young crest]

real

[frail delta]

Tim Cook doesn't make any money if you buy a used Macbook...

[fallen sky]

Ah yes qwuantum

[shut elbow]

quantum

[young crest]

2010 dual processor Mac Pro

[fallen sky]

qwuantum

[shut elbow]

kkick back

[young crest]

qwamtum

[shut elbow]

now i am confused

[marble chasm]

Thats what he wants you to believe

[fallen sky]

2013 amd Athlon 2.

[shut elbow]

is my game gpu bottlenecked or cpu

[marble chasm]

Is 375 fps not enough

[fallen sky]

Use a bottleneck calculator

[shut elbow]

not it isnt

[young crest]

Dual 6 core Xeons

[fallen sky]

dunno how slow that is never used it

[young crest]

400 hz monitor

[marble chasm]

What monitor are you using dam

[shut elbow]

i play competitive r6, i neeed well above 480

[young crest]

Well for starters it’s from 2010

[fallen sky]

No the fuck u don’t

[shut elbow]

yeah the fuck do i do

[fallen sky]

🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀

[marble chasm]

😭

[shut elbow]

when i got money on the line hell yeah

[fallen sky]

What is ur refresh rate

[marble chasm]

165hz is meta

[young crest]

3 cents between 7 drunk people

[young crest]

I have a 180hz

[shut elbow]

yo maybe in like plat rank but i play tourneys and scrims 😭

[fallen sky]

What’s the refresh rate bruv

[cosmic stratus]

its also mid, not good enough for me

I want my frames to feel like Im looking through a window smh

[shut elbow]

240 currently because i cant push 360 consuistently let alone 480

[marble chasm]

Lowkey a skill issue at that point 🤷‍♂️

[fallen sky]

No point in going beyond ur refresh rate 👍

[young crest]

Then look out a window

[young crest]

Lower latency

[cosmic stratus]

[shut elbow]

yo i dont go beyong refresh rate im not even at it the majority of ther time

[fallen sky]

Damn that 0.03ms is really noticeable

What is the usual input delay for vsync

[young crest]

Isn’t this entire discussion about that kinda stuff

[cosmic stratus]

at some point it becomes usless

[shut elbow]

so is my game gpu or cpu bottlenecked stop yaspping about refresh rate needs clearly u got diff use cases for ur hardware

[young crest]

The human eye can only see 30fps

[cosmic stratus]

like you could get away with vsync at that point

[fallen sky]

?????

Who told you that

[marble chasm]

Wdym

[young crest]

counter point: AMD gpu

[cosmic stratus]

mmm

[young crest]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[fallen sky]

How would I like messages as if I was on Instagram

I reacted with a heart

[marble chasm]

I do that lol

[cosmic stratus]

lmao

[marble chasm]

Sometimes i try double clicking on discord

[young crest]

Wired for failure

[shut elbow]

what data is needed

[young crest]

your ssn

[cosmic stratus]

what game

[rigid fjord]

if we remove you from the pc, the pc stops getting a bottleneck

[young crest]

Maybe the problems were the friends we made along the way

[cosmic stratus]

WHAT GAME

[fallen sky]

R6 for the 10th time

[shut elbow]

siege

[cosmic stratus]

you're just trying to get as many frames as possible rght

[shut elbow]

yes

[cosmic stratus]

? low graphics settings?

[rigid fjord]

they can't be a problem if you don't have any

[marble chasm]

Use dlss

[shut elbow]

all low

[cosmic stratus]

Ok thats always gonna be cpu bottleneck

[young crest]

Well your gpu is maxed and your cpu is not

I do not think this is rocket science

[shut elbow]

input latency and im on radeon

[young crest]

FSR

[shut elbow]

so is it a gpu or a cpu problem

[cosmic stratus]

How have we not comes to this simple conclusion

[shut elbow]

input latency

[cosmic stratus]

the frame gen?

[young crest]

g with a p and a u (derogatory)

[marble chasm]

Use 720p

[shut elbow]

cuz siege is a cpu bound game so why is my gpu getting railed when my cpu should be the bottleneck because r5 7600 is shit or smth

[young crest]

Nah nah nah, 240p

[shut elbow]

input latency

[young crest]

fps number go bigger

[cosmic stratus]

whats your resolution

[shut elbow]

1440p

[cosmic stratus]

oh wait

[young crest]

Drop to 1080 coward

[cosmic stratus]

im dumb, OFC THE GPU IS MAXED

[young crest]

GPUS THE BOTTLENECK

[cosmic stratus]

gpu bottle neck

[marble chasm]

What were the specs again?

[cosmic stratus]

we, we figured rhis out already right...

[young crest]

7600 6950xt

[rigid fjord]

it's not a bottleneck, though it's being used the most

[young crest]

It is maxed when the cpu is under 5%

[cosmic stratus]

maybe it needs more single core performance

[winter lantern]

me when i use a 1650s and a 13900kf

[trim gyro]

may you be interested in a little bit of overclocking

[young crest]

In the case of fps number go higher it probably is

CPU oc couldn’t hurt ofcourse

[winter lantern]

my moniter bottlenecks it

[cosmic stratus]

i'd say mine is balanced for most of what I do, Xeon 1680v3 and a 99$ rx 5700xt

[shut elbow]

tested on a 600hz TN 1080p panel

[young crest]

I dont believe thats possible

[shut elbow]

+3 fps average

[winter lantern]

my 1650s was 12$

[rigid fjord]

remember some game as more gpu dependent than other games, so some games will barely use the cpu while using the gpu more so

[cosmic stratus]

[cosmic stratus]

[winter lantern]

its a 5120x1440 240hz moniter

[marble chasm]

Dude 1650 is crazy underated

[rigid fjord]

nope

[cosmic stratus]

[young crest]

In this game. Which is being used more

That’s right! The gpu

so which does this game take more advantage of then?

[shut elbow]

difference between 1080p and 1440p

[limber nacelle]

it's a literal pile of turd in 2025

turding

[shut elbow]

let me OC my cpu

[young crest]

My Radeon VII claps a 1650s ass

[winter lantern]

it wasent good when it came out

[shut elbow]

-40 +300?

[limber nacelle]

hasn't changed in the 7 or so years since

[marble chasm]

Cs2 ran beautifully ❤️

[cosmic stratus]

rtx 2080 competition

[winter lantern]

i get 50fps in spiderman 2 🔥

[limber nacelle]

"my gpu runs an Esports game!!!! therefore underrated!!!!"

[young crest]

half life 2 runs on intel hd graphics 2000

Doesn’t mean you wanna run anything more demanding on it though

[cosmic stratus]

My vega 56 and its tweaked performance potential for 86$ is whats TRULY underrated

[marble chasm]

The slander is crazy 💔

[cosmic stratus]

3060 performance for 86$🙏

[winter lantern]

its hard to not find somthing that runs it

[junior valve]

gtx 580 can do that

[cosmic stratus]

rx vega 8

[limber nacelle]

it seems like this server can't understand context or sarcasm

[cosmic stratus]

UHD 620

GT 1030

[limber nacelle]

but i'm not surprised

[young crest]

The internet understands nothing and you should expect nothing more than nothing

[cosmic stratus]

this, this is part of the humor

[rigid fjord]

think about it really dude, the guy is crying about hitting 330 fps and thinks he needs 480+, this is also the same guy if i remember correctly said about cheat creation

[cosmic stratus]

just listing shit gpus

[limber nacelle]

sigh

[cosmic stratus]

Valid

[cosmic stratus]

wait whats his refresh rate?

[winter lantern]

yall what games can i get 240hz at 5120x1440 on my 1650s

[young crest]

I don’t rember anything bout cheat creating personally

[cosmic stratus]

minecraft

[young crest]

Quake 1

[limber nacelle]

soltaire

[winter lantern]

yeahs thats sure one

[marble chasm]

Doom 1993

[trim gyro]

pinball arcade

[winter lantern]

minecraft and roblox

[young crest]

Ah idk that might be too demanding

[winter lantern]

most indies prob

[cosmic stratus]

roblox at low graphics

[cosmic stratus]

[winter lantern]

e33 is an indie game tho and that doesnt even run at 1080p

[cosmic stratus]

if his refresh rate is 480 then this is valid

[young crest]

I assume yes but would a 1080 non ti beat a 1650

[cosmic stratus]

the 1650 gets stomped on by the rx 580

thats like 1660ti performance mind you

[winter lantern]

4gb rx580

[cosmic stratus]

iirc

[young crest]

In games that scale with sli my 3 way GTX 670s beat a 1650

das naice

[cosmic stratus]

[young crest]

No games scale with sli

[marble chasm]

Damn

[rose sorrel]

There a way to get my server hard drives that in different network on my pc to move bulk to or do I need to be on same network

Using a VPN network Tailscales

[cosmic stratus]

this is incoherent and incomprehensible

re right pls🙏

[wicked harness]

Is ITX mini pc good ?

[rigid fjord]

nope, no it's not, he doesn't even need that high a refresh rate

[junior valve]

no you should buy a full tower case

[wicked harness]

I don't wanna buy ATX with DUAL CPU slot

[cosmic stratus]

Doesnt need... thats his prerogative and besides there is actually a noticable difference between those two anyway

[young crest]

I’ve been wanting to buy an itx board and put it in my Helios just to laugh at it

[junior valve]

what is dual cpu slot

[cosmic stratus]

a normal occurrence with the xeon community

[marble chasm]

That would lowkey look good

[limber nacelle]

i don't believe there are dual socket ATX boards

[young crest]

It would not lol

[winter lantern]

yall i tried to put a gpu in my pc while it was on

[limber nacelle]

most dual socket boards I've seen are SSI-EEB or non standard

[young crest]

at least, not anymore

[marble chasm]

Did it work

[cosmic stratus]

restart

[limber nacelle]

yeah perhaps in the past

[cosmic stratus]

I tried doing this whole PC was asleep

still needed restart

[young crest]

I have a gateway with an ATX board with dual pentium 3s, slotted

[winter lantern]

it sparked

[young crest]

Sounds like a really good way to short something out

[cosmic stratus]

dual socket dell precision t7180

[marble chasm]

Hell yeah

[young crest]

nuh

[rigid fjord]

nope, once you go above 165hz, you won't notice it, anything higher is superficial

[winter lantern]

my pc didnt turn off so nothing shorted

[cosmic stratus]

more modern

[rose sorrel]

What I’m trying to say is my server is at bro’s house’s and wanna use the 14tb of storage on it but different ip but use VPN the so I can remote into at my house

[young crest]

My 2010 Mac Pro

[winter lantern]

120 hz to 240 lowkey isnt that insane

[rare lava]

Hello so I really need better ping and I need Ethernet so i have 2 options 1 is to get another router and put that on my pc and connect via that way or buy a 200ft cat 8 to rout it to my main router what my question is is will the second router have the same delay as it dose with regular WiFi and if connecting it threw the main router is better

[cosmic stratus]

there is litterally noticable choppyness until you reach 500hz

[minor cove]

You're just limited by the speed of the VPN+networks depends on how much actual data you're shuffling around but fafo?

[cosmic stratus]

what are you talking about

[young crest]

vrr

[cosmic stratus]

move a mouse curser on a 165hz dispay, compare the two and you will see what im talking about

[rose sorrel]

How can I get in my network on my desktop we are using Tailscales

[tidal geyser]

Now show 5

[rigid fjord]

you don't want a second router, you want a cable instead, preferably routed so it's not noticable from the router to your pc, preferably via a network switch

[young crest]

That’s E-ATX

[elder quarry]

A motherboard with two sockets

[young crest]

THE X_99 platform is dead

[minor cove]

You just run the app and select "exit node" where you want to be able to remote into

[cosmic stratus]

our pierceable limit is somewhere above 500hz not 165hz

[wicked harness]

I'm not nerd sorry

[marble chasm]

True

[young crest]

Just ATX but Extended

[wicked harness]

Ahh nice

[elder quarry]

Out, we’re not nerds

[wicked harness]

well i asked ITX because i wanna make a gaming pc

[rare lava]

Ok and a 200ft to 300ft cat 8 shouldn’t effect anything I live in AZ and the cord will be going outside will the heat affect anything

[young crest]

you’re a candy

a nerd

[elder quarry]

Hobbyist

[rose sorrel]

I do that but I want that storage in my network tab on my gaming pc

[minor cove]

Then from client one should see list of exit nodes that are available if on same account or shared and can choose it and then just map network drive or whatever browse the shares and should be good

[limber nacelle]

not a real standard anyways

[shut elbow]

OC+ undervoltyed cpu and undervolted gpu

[limber nacelle]

therefore it still falls under nonstandard

[shut elbow]

fuck it do i just buy a 5090 and a 9950x3d?

[young crest]

why do new cases still keep supporting it then

[rare lava]

Yes

[cosmic stratus]

gpu upgrade

[marble chasm]

Hell yes

[limber nacelle]

eatx support is fake

[rigid fjord]

well a vpn will let you remote to it afaik, but you're still stuck at your isp speed and their isp for data transfers

[young crest]

If you really hate the concept of having money

[limber nacelle]

it's just pray that the board isn't too wide 😔

[elder quarry]

9800x3d

[shut elbow]

money was invented to spend

[rare lava]

@rigid fjord

[rose sorrel]

Can u find me video ?

[limber nacelle]

eatx is manufacturer speak for "we made it wider than normal"

[young crest]

My be quiet shadow base 800 dx released in 2023 has e atx support, specifically has the mounts for them

[cosmic stratus]

r6 siege relies on good single core performance

[young crest]

That’s EVGAs XL-ATX

[cosmic stratus]

so go ahead and just upgrade both

[rigid fjord]

it has limitations, ideally you'd want an m-atx build, and no one is suggesting to go dual cpu

[elder quarry]

Yes

[minor cove]

they got a NAS section on page here https://tailscale.com/kb/1017/install haven't used it for that use case myself here but should work fine

[cosmic stratus]

better question is will YOU actually benifit from that

do you have limited space?

[shut elbow]

ok so i buy an intel i3 7th gen

[cosmic stratus]

[shut elbow]

lessd cores = faster cores = faster siege

[wicked harness]

okay it was a mistake to ask here

[cosmic stratus]

[young crest]

Not necessarily how that works*

[marble chasm]

5090 probably isnt worth the difference between it and the 4090

[limber nacelle]

i mean 'eatx' exists, it's just not standardized is my point

[cosmic stratus]

NO

[shut elbow]

electricity

[cosmic stratus]

just buy a faster cpu

[young crest]

If you want a blazing fast cpu for gaming get a 7800X3D or 9800X3D

[elder quarry]

Some mini-ITX motherboards are decent, but for price to performance it’s usually a bad idea. They also have less features

[young crest]

sfx psu prices vs atx psu prices

[shut elbow]

or do i add a pbo of +700 and -50

[rigid fjord]

you can get external grade ethernet cable that is designed to not to break down under uv lighting (all cables can get affected by this) and you don't need anything over cat 6 cable, what would also be useful is if you use conduit externally as extra protection

[cosmic stratus]

[elder quarry]

This too

[shut elbow]

an hope my silicon doesnt explode

[cosmic stratus]

crash*

yea try what you can with your current hardware, never say no to that

[rigid fjord]

aka, itx tax

[wicked harness]

i used a laptop only in my life and i don't like it much now.

[young crest]

sff tax

[rare lava]

Oh ok I just saw a cat 8 was the best so I thought I should get that

[rigid fjord]

you can't add any higher that +200 to mhz, and going lower than -25 to all core is absolutely pointless

[tidal geyser]

Cat 8 is fake

[cosmic stratus]

[tidal geyser]

Mostly

[sullen cove]

The invention of currency is to be a mean of consigning value from one individual to another for the mulct incurred during the process of trade

[rare lava]

Isn’t it fiber optic

[young crest]

Only cats with 9 lives exist

[tidal geyser]

Wat??

[marble chasm]

True

[cosmic stratus]

no

[rigid fjord]

cat 8 be fake in general

[tidal geyser]

There are no fiber cat cables

[cosmic stratus]

that has nothing to do with fiber optic

[tidal geyser]

Yea

Cat is only the rating of the cable

[rigid fjord]

no, fibre optic is fibre, cat cable is copper

[cosmic stratus]

regular wire

[tidal geyser]

Like cat 5 can do 1gig at like 100m while cat 6a can do the same but 10gig

[rare lava]

Oh shit I saw some dude with a fiber optic cord that looked a lot like a ether net and it was fiber he was trapping ligjt or some shit in it

[cosmic stratus]

since we are talking about cats

whats the best cat for 100ft

[tidal geyser]

Some places they use aluminum and such for home cables so yeeaa

[tidal geyser]

Just do cat 6

[cosmic stratus]

bet

[rare lava]

I need 200-300fy😭

[cosmic stratus]

[rare lava]

😭

[rigid fjord]

still cat 6 cable

[rare lava]

Got it

[tidal geyser]

100ft is what under 50m or was it just straight up around 30m

[rigid fjord]

33m

[tidal geyser]

A yea

[fickle lantern]

did you find out what this was called? are there per chance any measurements of it? especially group delay

[tidal geyser]

Anyways with cat 6 you can then do 10gig

[cosmic stratus]

I mean should be more than enough for the mid ass 120mbps speeds we have.... wired or wirless

[fickle lantern]

I'll be building something similar in the not too distant future

[cosmic stratus]

I just need low latency

[tidal geyser]

Get a nas

[rigid fjord]

3m 9ft 9in basically, or there abouts so...

[tidal geyser]

Fkn cat 3 can do that

[cosmic stratus]

ill get cat 6 anyway

[sullen cove]

We got cat 3 before gta vi

[tidal geyser]

Ofc

[cosmic stratus]

[tidal geyser]

I never rec under cat 6 anyways

[cosmic stratus]

we gonna get the s26 U before gta 6

ahh

[rigid fjord]

we have space flight before gta 6

[tidal geyser]

Rip
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1372082068216873000/1372082068414140456/Screenshot_2025-05-14_132300.png?ex=68257a81&is=68242901&hm=52fec250b31931ab5ebbac07080cd9cc33438bfdf24cf2062ae3b50898f1cbc0&

[fickle lantern]

we will have half life 4 before gta 6

[cosmic stratus]

tf is a GME

[sinful cobalt]

we get gta6 before no game no season 2

[cosmic stratus]

[swift moss]

did yall know apple owns 16 million ipv4 addresses 😭 like man wtf leave some for the rest of us

[tidal geyser]

Are there not like 4 billion?

[swift moss]

yea, apple owns 1/256th of all ipv4s

[tidal geyser]

O wow I was very wrong

[swift moss]

thats insane considering its one company

[tidal geyser]

Not small tho

[hybrid yacht]

Who price gouged the 3DS's

[tidal geyser]

Nintendo

[swift moss]

hp, level3, ibm, at&t, and mit all own their own 0.0.0-255.255.255 adresses

[hybrid yacht]

They were cheaper before they price gouged it.

[swift moss]

standford used to own 36.x.x.x but gave it back I think

[hybrid yacht]

and its not nintendo, I swear its a youtuber.

[tidal geyser]

3ds has not been made for many many years now

[hybrid yacht]

ik

[tidal geyser]

You do know what price+demand+stock is

[frail delta]

Two of those are tier 1 carriers, it's not crazy...

[tidal geyser]

If demand is low and stock is high then low price as was kinda the case

[swift moss]

who needs 16 million ipv4 addresses? they just got a ton because they were really early

[tidal geyser]

But as ageing is a thing and it's not being made it means there are less 3DS in the world

[swift moss]

stanford could have realistically had like 500 million but chose not to technically

[frail delta]

They are both tier one carriers, I guarantee you there are more than that many on their network

[swift moss]

considering the internet registry was run by them

[swift moss]

yeah carriers would have a lot since they do provide others with public ipv4, but what does hp really need those for?

at&t is quite understandable ngl

[frail delta]

They would have returned the resources they don't need

[swift moss]

perhaps

[frail delta]

Not "perhaps". They have

[swift moss]

I know companies still had massive pools in like the 2000s

dupont had a large 52.x.x.x they have to amazon i think

[frail delta]

Not "perhaps". They have

[swift moss]

what does apple need 16 million for?

pretty sure MIT aint using 4 million addresses

[frail delta]

Because Apple is Apple

[swift moss]

fair enough 😭

many companies are giving massive blocks to amazon and microsoft and oracle for cloud

around 10-20 dollars per address i believe

hp didnt donate too many either, the HPE is perfectly fine imo, their consumer really is a little too many

stanford sold every single ipv4 they owned, true chads

[hybrid yacht]

Og 3ds XL

[frail delta]

You will find that most of those are not being used by HP

[swift moss]

probably yeah

[tidal geyser]

look

on a rtx 2070

[frail delta]

15.0.0.0/8

|-------------|----------------------------------|------------|
| AS16509     | Amazon.com, Inc.                 | 92.91%     |
| AS16276     | OVH SAS                          | 1.73%      |
| AS8987      | Amazon Data Services Ireland Ltd | 1.73%      |
| AS13979     | AT&T Enterprises, LLC            | 0.98%      |
| Other       | -                                | 2.65%      |```

[swift moss]

I see

[random junco]

i also have this offer on my 2070 super and my 3050

two desktops

[hybrid yacht]

Is it for shit gpus only?

[random junco]

dont you dare diss my 2070 super

the reward is a skin only?

thought it came as the game 🥀

[tidal geyser]

XD

did you not think i cropped the top pic a bit strangely?

[random junco]

😂

[hybrid yacht]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61Ide5tOXM0 These videos are the skibidi toilet in my days

[random junco]

so you watched that video while drooling and making strange sounds while being overly excited

rather interesting, i must say

[hybrid yacht]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKfU0MhfMoE

[tidal geyser]

post it here

https://tenor.com/view/alerta-gif-5236527704028489034

[empty quartz]

I love when my mac doesnt chime after i just upgraded the cpus /s

[elder quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/thermal-paste-mother-board-cpu-gif-17616659

[tidal geyser]

@pallid otter

[pallid otter]

Yah

It’s off

[tidal geyser]

.

[pallid otter]

There you go

[tidal geyser]

OMG

[pallid otter]

What

[tidal geyser]

you do know you are able to move it

[pallid otter]

I did

[tidal geyser]

that is the whole point of this

[tidal geyser]

do it more until it lines up

[quasi field]

Sorry I’m back I left for a bit

[tidal geyser]

o true i can do this now

[pallid otter]

How do I do it

[tidal geyser]

[tidal geyser]

with your hands

[pallid otter]

I can’t

[tidal geyser]

you can

[pallid otter]

No

[tidal geyser]

yes

screw driver in the screw driver hole then move screw driver until it lines up screw a tiny bit then do that around the cooler

its dead simple

[pallid otter]

What bit

[tidal geyser]

a tiny bit

[elder quarry]

Attention.mp3

[pallid otter]

Ahhhh

[tidal geyser]

no

[pallid otter]

What do I dooo

[elder quarry]

What’s your issue

[tidal geyser]

i already told you

you are allowed to lift up the cooler btw

[pallid otter]

Can you circle?

[tidal geyser]

circle what

[pallid otter]

It

It

[elder quarry]

Just unscrew the others and do it again

[pallid otter]

Ahhh

[pallid otter]

They don’t live upppp

[tidal geyser]

if not then they are in

[elder quarry]

Live

Also take a chill pill

[pallid otter]

The spring or the metal

[tidal geyser]

no you need the screw to go in the hole

[pallid otter]

But I don’t line uppppp

[tidal geyser]

that means you can lift up the cooler then move the screw until it goes into the hole

[pallid otter]

Two lines up the the other two don’t

[elder quarry]

Just unscrew the whole cooler and repeat

Not that hard

[pallid otter]

I did but it don’t like upppp

It’s not srewed in

[tidal geyser]

OMG

[glacial tulip]

can someone help me w my fans in

[tidal geyser]

just fuck around until you find out how to do it

[elder quarry]

Spacers

[pallid otter]

What is thaattttt

[elder quarry]

O wait stock maybe doesn’t use that nevermind

[glacial tulip]

e

[tidal geyser]

it just uses the backplate

[glacial tulip]

sim

[elder quarry]

Yes

[glacial tulip]

help me 😔

[pallid otter]

That’s what I have

[elder quarry]

This

[glacial tulip]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/368515557227757571/1372109348888772658/IMG_5800.mov?ex=682593e9&is=68244269&hm=1e23ea4730fc3f9c8e00d41ea58d4517ca01d8252b376f6a2dc72f7e65074d55&

It says two of my intakes are at 0rpm but they r clearly not

[tidal geyser]

I KNOW

[glacial tulip]

And the middle intake stops spinning specifically during gaming

[elder quarry]

Weird sensor

[tidal geyser]

are they 4 pin pwm fans?

[glacial tulip]

The thing is it didnt say this a week ago

[tidal geyser]

or at least the connector 4 pin

[glacial tulip]

No idea they all came plugged into the integrated hub

[tidal geyser]

pics

you might only have pwm read not write

[glacial tulip]

Ok so they are 4 pin pwms

[glacial tulip]

Of the hub?

[tidal geyser]

easy way to see if it works is also maxing out that

[tidal geyser]

well yeah but we can try my little trick

[pallid otter]

Helppppp plsss

[glacial tulip]

This is from google
Hard to get a pic from my own pc

[pallid otter]

I’m done

[pallid otter]

With my life

[glacial tulip]

Maxing out rpm in the bios?

[tidal geyser]

yes

then seeing what fans do the fanning

[tidal geyser]

go to school

[pallid otter]

I did

[glacial tulip]

Aight let me see

[elder quarry]

Past tense

[pallid otter]

Hellllpppp

[frail delta]

Is this the same edgy 12 year old as last night?

[pallid otter]

Pls

[elder quarry]

Spare your letters

[pallid otter]

Yesssss

Pls help me fix this

[frail delta]

If you need help, you should either call the local emergency number or speak to a trusted adult

[tidal geyser]

HELP WITH WHAT

[pallid otter]

No with my pcc

[elder quarry]

Spare your letters
proceeds to spam stuff

[tidal geyser]

i have told you how to do it in so many ways

[pallid otter]

Yah and they don’t work

It’s not firing

[tidal geyser]

since you cant follow them

[frail delta]

Oh. Lol. Skill issue

[pallid otter]

wtf do i of

[tidal geyser]

if i was at home i would make a god dam video of how i do it

[tidal geyser]

try and try and try again until it works and use your brain

[frail delta]

Get better

[elder quarry]

Watch a tutorial if you can’t follow simple instructions

[pallid otter]

I can’t find one

[tidal geyser]

[tidal geyser]

fuck it, im starting my youtube career today when i get home

[elder quarry]

DO IT

simiscool

[pallid otter]

What do I do help me pls

[elder quarry]

Don’t ask to ask

[glacial tulip]

Wont let me configure rpm idk why but i think its recognizing the system fans as one fan bc theyre all reading the same temps?

[tidal geyser]

drag the horse to water

[tidal geyser]

set it to pwm

[glacial tulip]

I did

Should i js use a fan software

[elder quarry]

Why not

Have you updated your bios

[pallid otter]

Help pls

[glacial tulip]

im not doin that 🕊️

[elder quarry]

Why

[glacial tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/stress-gif-23862641

[elder quarry]

Alright not doing this
Bye

[glacial tulip]

this how imma be waiting for it to update

[tidal geyser]

i think you need to set it to custom

[pallid otter]

;(;(;(

[glacial tulip]

On that its just "Auto, silent", etc

[pallid otter]

😭 😭 😭

[glacial tulip]

Screw the fan in lil bro

[tidal geyser]

just mess around until it wants to work

[pallid otter]

It’s not fitting

[tidal geyser]

it is

[glacial tulip]

How is it not fitting

[pallid otter]

It is not

[tidal geyser]

being dumb

[glacial tulip]

What does that mean

Show

[tidal geyser]

he has

[tidal geyser]

good old 144p

[pallid otter]

@glacial tulip

[glacial tulip]

Idk where its not fitting but assuming its not

[tidal geyser]

72 i have been trying for a WHILE now

[glacial tulip]

Just unscrew it and tighten each screw a little bit then onto the next and repeat until theyre all fully screwed

[glacial tulip]

Just unscrew them all

[tidal geyser]

you just move the screw there

[glacial tulip]

Ddr4 in the BIG 25

[pallid otter]

I can’t it fits on two and not the other 2

[glacial tulip]

wake me up wake me up isnide

[tidal geyser]

MOVE IT until it fits

[tidal geyser]

isnide

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-minor-s-spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-gif-10940848928744248792

[glacial tulip]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/895611479133413377/1072592618107719790/attachment.gif

[pallid otter]

It don’t fit @tidal geyser

[tidal geyser]

are they all screwed down?

[pallid otter]

No there all are not I’m trying to make them fit so I can

[tidal geyser]

take a sec and think

[pallid otter]

I am

[pallid otter]

Idk pls just help

[tidal geyser]

HELP HOW

[pallid otter]

Idk just tell me

[tidal geyser]

tell you what

[pallid otter]

Done

[shut elbow]

@tidal geyser hello

[tidal geyser]

wait, did you really manage to install it?

[shut elbow]

i am having extream headfuck rn

[tidal geyser]

get a 9070 xt

[pale flint]

what is epic even about bruh

[tidal geyser]

you said something about hitting your pc

[shut elbow]

but why dos my fps improve at 1440p high settings comparedto 1080p lwoe settings

[shut elbow]

yeah the gpu is not well i think

[tidal geyser]

i dono

[pale flint]

its been updating since 10 minutes 😭

[true stirrup]

Epic games moment

[tidal geyser]

wait epic changed back to bits

epic is pain

[pale flint]

bruh

its so annoying

[tidal geyser]

first they were bytes for WAY WAY too long now they are bits wtf

[tidal geyser]

so use steam

[pale flint]

i have only 1 drive for both boot and storage and it uses all of it

cant even use my pc for that time

[tidal geyser]

that can be why

[pale flint]

rl isnt available on steam 😭

[pallid otter]

My mom helped me

[tidal geyser]

omg

at least it works

[pallid otter]

Ummm

@tidal geyser

[pale flint]

what is the problem blud

[pallid otter]

How do I install it?

[true stirrup]

For the future if the screws don't align use 1 finger or 2 fingers to push the screw in place not the entire hand like you did on one of the videos above
And if that doesn't work untighten the opposite side screw a bit

[tidal geyser]

mhmm

[shut elbow]

@tidal geyser is it bad if gpu at 100%

[tidal geyser]

i already said that

[pale flint]

well maybe you added it somehow

[shut elbow]

does that mean i broke it

[tidal geyser]

no

[pale flint]

but its not officially on steam

[tidal geyser]

no

[tidal geyser]

it was

[pale flint]

well for now its not

was doesnt matter anymore

[tidal geyser]

here is the steam page

[pale flint]

i only got 1 game in epic so eh

[tidal geyser]

how?????

i got 300

[tidal geyser]

skill issue

[pale flint]

uh i mean installed

[tidal geyser]

o yeah, get more storage

[shut elbow]

@tidal geyser how much more fps will i get froom a new mobo

[tidal geyser]

0

[true stirrup]

0

[pale flint]

could but not needed rn

[true stirrup]

Damn I was too slow

[tidal geyser]

how many times do i need to tell you motherboard at least a new one for you cant change performance

[pale flint]

btw i just found out you can compress games to save storage 😭

[shut elbow]

zen 5?

[tidal geyser]

that is cpu

[pale flint]

found out some day ago

[tidal geyser]

a 70$ a620 from 2 years ago can use a 9950X3D

[true stirrup]

Poor VRMs

[tidal geyser]

ofc with a bios update

[tidal geyser]

i said can not should

[pale flint]

guys

[tidal geyser]

anyways just disable the normal ccd and it will be fine

[pale flint]

how do i make a usb for bios flashing

[tidal geyser]

what about the girls

[pale flint]

no display btw

[pale flint]

there are none

[tidal geyser]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1027757333117415424

[oblique hamlet]

Was thinking about getting the rtx 5070 upgrading from a 6700xt, worth it?
https://amzn.eu/d/3cQHxl3

[pale flint]

hmm good idea

[tidal geyser]

go for a 9070 xt if possible

[oblique hamlet]

I have a 13600kf

[true stirrup]

You just put a file onto the usb and plug it into the computer and that's it

[shut elbow]

ccd?

[oblique hamlet]

Is it any more expensive

[pale flint]

oh so it does it itself?

[shut elbow]

so b650 gigabyte is ok?

[pale flint]

i dont need to do a single thing?

[tidal geyser]

sadly yea but take a look at a 9070 non xt

[true stirrup]

Yeah it finds the specific file on the USB (if you are using bios flashback)

[tidal geyser]

i already told you YES so many times

[tidal geyser]

i think i already sent him some shit in here a few days ago how to do it

[tidal geyser]

make a post in tech support

[tidal geyser]

update the bios and you can put in a zen 6 cpu when the time comes

that is the point of am5

sad that zen 6 might be the last gen on it tho

[shut elbow]

i want to make sure

[oblique hamlet]

Hmm the only thing I get pissed off with about amd is the encoder and game capture issues with it, will it be the same with these cards?

[pale flint]

hmmm

[tidal geyser]

MAKE A POST IN TECH SUPPORT

[shut elbow]

i dont want my fucking socket exploding or my 8 pin starting a fire

[pale flint]

do you expect a 13 year old laptop to have that feature?

[tidal geyser]

that is intl

jk its not a real issue

[tidal geyser]

wait

[true stirrup]

Check the manual

[shut elbow]

but what about quantum physics

[tidal geyser]

make a post in tech support an i will help

[pale flint]

only if i had one

[tidal geyser]

you do

[pale flint]

amma check on google if i get any clue

[true stirrup]

There is one on the manufacturer website

[shut elbow]

quantum infintyfabric cache clockspeed intercepting the quantum electrons from the latest gen from AMD

[viscid helm]

Can I go out

[pale flint]

yeah

[true stirrup]

Perfect for sunbathing

[tidal geyser]

put on some sunscreen

[pale flint]

i will let you know when i need that, first i gotta check if it needs new ram or something

[tidal geyser]

well will not help you with the worst of the rays but meh

[tidal geyser]

no make post then i can help

[viscid helm]

Yeah I still feel it burns

[pale flint]

yeah i will make post when i am sure i need help sir 😭

lets not waste time for now reason

[tidal geyser]

you do

[pale flint]

how?

ok guess what

[tidal geyser]

just make a post explaining everything and the solution might just be one word

[pale flint]

i will make a post and tell the problem

yeah good idea

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/adam-scott-parks-and-rec-parks-and-recreation-ben-wyatt-hidden-talent-gif-21228864

[zinc lotus]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/ngdsBq

Build I’m Getting Very Soon, I’m very unsure on fans all I know is I want that design. Do I have enough headers and slots to use those fans ect ect

Also some opinions on the whole build would be appreciated

[tidal geyser]

cooler comes with thermal paste

4 sticks can lose you up to 30% of your performance at worst

crucial p3 is qlc garbage that slows to HDD speeds when hit too hard

x870e gives you as much performance as a a620 for like 70$ with that cpu

[warped peak]

Hey there, long story short my GPU (RX 7600 XT) died and I just RMA'd it yesterday, I've been considering asking the customer support to send in a 7700XT instead and pay the difference (around a 100€) is it worth it in your opinion?

[tidal geyser]

that cpu can be cooled by almost nothing

[golden palm]

It's always good to have some spare paste

[glacial tulip]

me activo torre

[tidal geyser]

yeah you can buy it later

[tidal geyser]

is it even possible?

[tidal geyser]

i has given opinion :3

at least the computer is usable and do not really have to deal with driver issues

[sinful cobalt]

can buy msrp wow (singapore dollar)

[warped peak]

Well I have asked them if it was possible but honestly I don't see why it wouldn't 🤔
(They haven't answered yet as I sent the email around 1am)

[tidal geyser]

they only do repair there

[broken perch]

Literally jist built a whole damn new pc for a friend for 1300 cheaper then the 5090 lol

[tidal geyser]

list

[broken perch]

https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder-amd.aspx?load=4d7aba2d-e1cc-4d97-a0d6-47a5afcea104

[tidal geyser]

also you can make it way cheaper for the same performance

[broken perch]

Ignore the few things at the end. Need paste for 3 other builds. She also wanted more rgb, and I bought a kit to do some cable work at her house

So I ended up getting rgb sleeves ... which I hate

[warped peak]

I'm not sure they are doing that, mostly they just send a replacement unit

[tidal geyser]

is the torrent the only thing they wanna go for

[pale flint]

alright

[boreal vine]

Bruh I can't actually wait to put my own keyboard into production

[broken perch]

Yup, I recomended a few others. But they really like the torrent, and heard nothing but good things about it.

[pale flint]

done posting

[boreal vine]

this plateless prototype making me cry 😭

I want it to be in full production

[pale flint]

backspace kinda eh

[boreal vine]

it's going to get replaced in the final prod. I personally just like split BP better

[pale flint]

oh

[boreal vine]

Final prod would be something like this

[pale flint]

understandable

looks better

but why the fn between space?

[abstract wigeon]

tiny keyboards make me SICK

[broken perch]

Just snagged a Keychron Q6 HE, love the thing.

[abstract wigeon]

anything less than a tkl is unusable 😡

[tidal geyser]

are you willing to repaste the computers once every 3 months

[boreal vine]

Split spacebar makes it easy to operate one handsed

[pale flint]

hmmm

[boreal vine]

Sounds like skill issue

[mint umbra]

I tried a he keyboard

[broken perch]

Thats on them once its up and running. I've heard that also that the torrent sucks up the paste.

[pale flint]

i actually use laptop's keyboard

[mint umbra]

But I find there isn't enough he switches

To consider

[tidal geyser]

I've heard that also that the torrent sucks up the paste.
what??

[mint umbra]

Much more options with normal mechanical switches

[boreal vine]

This is the key binding on them

[sinful cobalt]

geon raws my goat

[pale flint]

and a wireless logi mouse with scroll wheel fricked up

idk why always

[broken perch]

Because so much airflow is with the torrent, people have reported needing to change out the paste more frequently.

Whether thats true or not who knows. And then its user depending what they be doing.

[boreal vine]

so when I press FN the nav cluster is basically on my left hand

[mint umbra]

I miss my g502