tech-chat-1

[fringe prairie]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs-wifi

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nfyH99/asus-tuf-gaming-b650m-e-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-tuf-gaming-b650m-e-wifi

[elder canyon]

i found this for a little more, b850, should be more likely to play nice with a new generation i imagine, any thoughts? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KyfV3C/asrock-b850m-pro-rs-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b850m-pro-rs-wifi

[sharp ivy]

I've gotten mine to 915 on core

let me know what clock you can reach because I'd like to see how high I can go

[high elm]

get a EVC2SE

gt730 uses an analogue voltage controller so it’ll be a little harder to solder onto

usually you can just solder cables to connect to the i2c bus but eh its a gt730

[spring latch]

nah msi afterburner is fine

[high elm]

chances are youre gonna hit an nvidia limit before the actual silicon limit

[spring latch]

infact since I have a GT 730 im just gonna put windows 8.1 on this shit

[fringe prairie]

it barely matters really, you just get a pcie5 slot

[spring latch]

iirc msi afterburner can change voltages

[elder canyon]

ahhh ok, that not really worth it

[steel umbra]

amps >:]

[left dove]

wamps

[sharp ivy]

That's what I'm using

[spring latch]

i wonder if win8.1 will help with anything

probably NOT but this GPU means if i wanted too i could go all the way down to windows XP

i did test that

last year on my AMD FX PC

[outer gorge]

Anyone here could help me with this? I just bought an OG Warcraft III battle chest and downloaded both the main game and DLC

[livid mason]

Moved out and I saved a bunch of computer stuff, how much you think I could see an RTX 3060 12gb and RX 580 4gb for?

[solar moat]

at least its not explorer.exe

[solar moat]

i found offen down i borke things with unstsable OC is why i got those

[left dove]

^

yeah that's something to check if you're getting weird errors like that

[solar moat]

how much ram you got?

[outer gorge]

32GB

[solar moat]

at least its not trying to read ram you dont have

its just trying reading ram its not ment to read

[left dove]

which ddu though

[sinful cobalt]

whatever is on top frfr

[left dove]

no the fucking

dancing game

[sinful cobalt]

oh LOL

[left dove]

stompy stompy rhythm game

[sinful cobalt]

-_-

[left dove]

thats thE JOKE

[high elm]

max is 1.093 volts

pascal dosent scale well above 1.2v

so to get that extra .1 volt u need to volt mod the card if youre chasing max performance

but its a gt730 tho so

[left dove]

you sound like you're fun at parties tbh

[spring latch]

this card isnt pascal, its kepler

[high elm]

dang im having memory loss

[spring latch]

lol, its a variant of kepler that runs on DDR3

[sinful cobalt]

as always

lets get u ur meds

[spring latch]

oh floopie has dementia?

[high elm]

💀

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/miside-sleepy-apby3h-sleep-anime-gif-17511294593736645908

[spring latch]

but ye since this card is kepler it has 384 cores luckilly, as opposed to the 96 in the fermi variants

[sinful cobalt]

yea he has STML, dementia, amnesia, parkinson, alzheimers

multiple memory debuffs

[spring latch]

oh wow

discord clyde still had more

[high elm]

might have

i should get it checked out 😭

[plucky oak]

.

[high elm]

ok i might legit have parkinsons

[lucid sluice]

Bought a laptop for $100 need help bypassing this bitlocker

[left dove]

format it and reinstall windows lmao

[high elm]

its only good as a simple display card ngl

[lucid sluice]

I have a usb with windows on it already can I just plug it in? I’m not sure how to do that

[left dove]

the oem key will be tied to the motherboard just format and reinstall

boot from usb

[sinful cobalt]

nah bro u have all of the memory debuffs why didnt u just pick 1

[lucid sluice]

I’m new to this could you possibly send me a video to help me

[formal sonnet]

We cannot help bypass / break encryption - doing so would violate #rules 9. You could reinstall Windows from a USB drive though. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/create-installation-media-for-windows-99a58364-8c02-206f-aa6f-40c3b507420d

[spring latch]

your confusing the 730 with the 210 and 710. its not actually, with optifine, andmy overclocks, on the FX 4300 for reference, i reached a healthy 300-500FPS on bedwars 1.8.9, the lowest dip being 240FPS

BeamNG 0.20 ran at around 40-60fps

[sinful cobalt]

geforce 256 solos

[spring latch]

the ONLY reason it can do that is becaue it has 2GB of vRAM (as opposed to the normal 512M to 1GB versions)

[steel umbra]

4000d frame looks good

[barren breach]

Msi Z790 gaming + I5 14600kf, was going to get this teamgroup DDR5 2x16gb 6000MHz CL30 for $90 US (on sale). Seem like a decent choice or does someone have any suggestions?

[swift moss]

If you want the data for some reason it's possible too 😭😭

Bitlocker used and maybe still is trash and breakable

It's not easy by any means though

But for legal reasons I'm not aware how to do it 🙏🙏

And I don't recommend

[lucid sluice]

I don’t need the data i just wana be able to bypass this bitlocker thing

[swift moss]

Yeah reinstall windows

Bitlocker is simply partition encryption like LUKS

[lucid sluice]

So just get a usb with windows on it. How do I reset the ssd it self or does it do it automatically once I reinstall windows

[lucid sluice]

?

[swift moss]

LUKS is somehow much better made though imho

[swift moss]

Do you know how to reinstall windows?

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/reinstall-windows-with-the-installation-media-d8369486-3e33-7d9c-dccc-859e2b022fc7

[pulsar moat]

I booted up my pc and the case fans keep on turning off and on constantly anyone know why that might be?

[sinful cobalt]

might bcs of the load depending on what. u do

[swift moss]

If they are plugged into a fan hub properly and the fan hub is plugged into a motherboard which is relatively high end it should be fine

[pulsar moat]

idk its been running fine

[swift moss]

Fans can run at lower voltages than advertised I believe, enabling DC power control, so motherboard voltage probably shouldn't be an issue

[pulsar moat]

ok

[swift moss]

It's gonna be some complete power cut for them to stop

[wheat torrent]

Using 4 kWh to cool a PC

I think it is more practical and cheaper to install a radiator outside, if you live where it's relatively cold outside

[lucid sluice]

Yes I do

[frigid blade]

Kinda crazy some people don’t know what network folder sharing is and it’s super useful

Just walked someone through it, nice to not get block by speed and space limitations by free services

[wheat torrent]

It is useful

[wheat torrent]

Wdym

[frigid blade]

Most content sharing platforms limit upload and download speed and size of files

The free ones

[wheat torrent]

Torrent

[frigid blade]

I don’t use torrent

[wheat torrent]

Unfortunate

[frigid blade]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[barren breach]

Ok guys 1 quick question as I am ordering everything for my new build right this second, so I ordered the phanteks XT pro ultra, and Im gonna mount a 360mm AIO to the top. So I’ll have 3 intake and 4 exhaust as it comes with 3 front fans and 1 rear, don’t I want more intake than exhaust for positive pressure or will it be fine as it has to pass through the rad?

[frigid blade]

Top and left exhaust right and bottom intake, should be good like that and not have to worry too much about pressure

[wraith bone]

i have that case , its good but would suggest theres better ones to get

[barren breach]

I knew the configuration for fresh air and exhaust, I planned on exhausting the rad out the top, I was just told that I want more intake than exhaust for positive pressure. I guess to help keep dust out?

[barren breach]

Yeah I heard its kinda thin and not crazy well built but I really liked the look of it

[frigid blade]

Yes you want positive you might have negative with 3 in 4 out

[fair zinc]

Can anyone tell me why my M.2 won't show up in BIOS or the Windows Setup, but it will let me boot ubuntu?

[barren breach]

Thats what Im worried about but idk if the rad would restrict airflow enough for it to be maybe a tiny bit positive pressure?

Ok well I was about to order a coolermaster aio but this thing is kinda neat especially for $56. Anyone know if its decent?

[frigid blade]

It’s probably thermalright

[barren breach]

I mean its only going on a I5 14600kf

[frigid blade]

Idk if you even need water cooling for that

[barren breach]

I know I dont really need an AIO for that but

I dont think I do but I want it haha

[frigid blade]

I get it lol I’m doing something similar with an auction I’m bidding on

I don’t need an 80 core server but if I can get it cheap…

[barren breach]

Im only building a whole new PC because I got a crazy good deal on a new mobo hahaha

I got a MSI Z790 gaming + wifi with 2 samsung evo 500gb m.2 nvmes for $80

I was pretty stoked to say the least

[frigid blade]

You could get 2 1Tb drives for $110

[barren breach]

I took 1 out and slapped it in my current PC that is being sold on Saturday and ordered myself a 1tb

[frigid blade]

Ah

[lucid sluice]

I had that aio with a r5 5600x it was pretty solid

[frigid blade]

Yah the mp44l is one of the better cheap ones, I think it’s $57 for 1Tb

[barren breach]

Thats actually solid, I just ordered a crucial gen 4 1tb on sale for $70

[barren breach]

How long have you had it?

[forest lotus]

It's TLC nand right?

[lucid sluice]

Around 2 month I sold that pc so Idk if it’s still going good or not

But when I had it it was great

[barren breach]

Awe dang haha, was hoping you had it for longer so I could get an idea, the reviews look good but for $56 Im a little skeptical

[frank forum]

Nah Thermalright are quite great

[forest lotus]

My laptop has some super fast so Hynix gen 4 drive as it's boot. Only 512gb tho

[barren breach]

I was literally about to press the order button on $600 worth of PC stuff and im making last second changes

[forest lotus]

But it moves data at like 7.1GB/s

[frigid blade]

Yes

It’s the not bad one

[forest lotus]

Yee

[frigid blade]

The mp44q is the bad one

[forest lotus]

QLC is bad

[frigid blade]

Yah that

[barren breach]

Seem like solid choices to pair with the msi z790 gaming?

[forest lotus]

Why the hell they made it no idea

It's exponentially worse

[lucid sluice]

Check redit out maybe you can see how long they last on there

[barren breach]

This is like my first actual ground up build

[frigid blade]

Use pcpp

Take your time

You’ll get a lot of good recommendations here if you have patience

[barren breach]

I have a PC that I spent time upgrading from a work station right now but Im selling it

[forest lotus]

I still need to look for a GPU to slot into my laptop

[frigid blade]

And if you actually take them into consideration unlike most people who just want a “yes that’s fine” response, you’ll build a good first pc

[forest lotus]

Either RTX A5500M or I wait and save for the RTX 5000 mobile ada

I just wanna replace my A3000M 12GB

[barren breach]

Never used them, I thought it was just a website that kinda auto picked it for you

[frigid blade]

No, it filters results based on what you’ve already chosen so it’s compatible

You choose the actual parts

[forest lotus]

Tho only problem with these mobile GPU cards they cost a fucking fortune

[barren breach]

Oh so I pick it out and it recommends changes?

[frigid blade]

Not changes, but if you put in a CPU, if you wanna choose a motherboard it only shows mobos compatible with that cpu

[forest lotus]

The RTX A5500M is about a 3070 but with 16GB at $640cad
The A5000M ada is $2300 Cad and is basically a 4070TIS

Used on eBay

[frigid blade]

It helps filter out stuff that won’t work with your parts that you’ve already chosen

[barren breach]

Ahh, I already have a mobo and a case otw

Well I have the mobo in my possession currently

[forest lotus]

Workstation laptops are expensive to upgrade

Sadly.

If I wanna double my ram capacity and get slightly faster ram. $532cad

Used on eBay

The easy part to upgrade is storage

I kinda wish camm was more widespread

[barren breach]

Okay well Im glad you told me about this because it says it supports the cpu I have chosen but not without a bios update

[forest lotus]

After tax and tariffs. Comes out to be a whopping Ton of money.

[frigid blade]

There you go, so unless it comes with the newer bios, you’ll have to update it yourself if the mobo has bios flash buttons, if it doesn’t you’re out of luck and need a cpu that it supports to update bios

[forest lotus]

For the RTX 5000

[barren breach]

I was about to try and ask how to figure out how to update it but I just remembered I have a laptop lmao

[barren breach]

Ive updated bios before, but not without a bios flash button, and it does have one.

[forest lotus]

I'm honestly considering a clean install of windows. As I feel Dell's bloatware is possibly sapping a decent chunk of power from my laptop

Like 240 processes at idle seems pretty excessive

[barren breach]

My bad, not with* a bio flash button

[mellow cairn]

If it has the stupid audio thing, then absolutely yes

My XPS13 was crippled with their waveshare audio garbage

[forest lotus]

It does. And dell support assist and like shit ton more of dell shit

[mellow cairn]

Solution? Linux.

[loud furnace]

I mounted a GPU on the fan slot

[forest lotus]

Problem none of my editing software works in Linux

[barren breach]

What happened to the gpu dawg

[mellow cairn]

The other stuff isn't too bad, but the waveshare audio would literally make it consume more power and make heat at idle

[loud furnace]

🍷

[loud furnace]

Mounting happened

[forest lotus]

True but every time I use Linux I feel it's more trouble then it's worth

[barren breach]

Did you mount it with an angle grinder or something like what

[forest lotus]

Mine sits at like 43c at idle

[forest lotus]

And only a few watts pull for the cpu

12850HX is my laptops cpu

[barren breach]

Like you have a singular display port left

[loud furnace]

Crackhead engineering at its worst

[loud furnace]

I only use hdmi

[forest lotus]

I had to reduce the power max of my cpu so it doesn't instantly throttle.

[mellow cairn]

On the contrary, I have made what I have work perfectly for me. I have a limited amount of lanes and need to make them work for me.

[barren breach]

So its useless? The picture looks like you destroyed all the ports on the gpu

[forest lotus]

Also my laptop is really fucking stupid. At least rn. If I set say cinabench to realtime or above avg priority it will make my cpu overheat and reboot because the fans don't ramp up @mellow cairn any clues?

Dell precision 7770

[mellow cairn]

Lol, dell support

[forest lotus]

Says update bios. Bios is up to date lol

[barren breach]

Gtx 1080ti in a micro atx

[frigid blade]

Wow that must’ve cost a lot

[mellow cairn]

Yeah idk. See if there are third party fan utilities

[regal spear]

Could someone help me? I already reseated my ram and power cables and idk what this code is. My computer is posting to monitor but my mouse isn’t working and when it did it froze. My keyboard works and computer works in bios, but stops on windows install screen

[barren breach]

Best part is im going to continue using the 1080ti in this new build until I save enough to get a newer gpu

[forest lotus]

Have been looking the last one that was for dell precision series laptops hasn't been updated since 2020 and doesn't work on my laptop. Fan control is just nope.

Any other utilities?

Speedfan I gave a try for the sake of ig.

Nope.

[barren breach]

Okay well I was going to get the i5-14600kf for my new build for $200. My mobo supports 12th, 13th, and 14th gen. Is there a better cpu for the same money I should get instead?

[barren breach]

Any ideas possibly?

[frank forum]

wheres the io shield brother?

[empty quartz]

@mellow cairn i got 2 rx 570’s for $25 cad because the seller and i both thought they were broken. Turns out my mac pro was just unhappy with them

[loud furnace]

No I didn’t. They all still work.

[loud furnace]

Gone, reduced to atoms

[mellow cairn]

Sweet!

[empty quartz]

Real

[high elm]

dang thats p good

[pallid kestrel]

I cant believe it took me this long to take a serious look at dldsr

Such a good boost to clarity, and in particular niche situations an absolute game changer to quality (looking at you TAA)

[frosty oriole]

Hey guys, I've made a graph.

[mellow cairn]

Now normalise it for cost in 2025 dollars

[frosty oriole]

Cost isn't a factor in the graph, just performance. Though yeah, it does suck to see linear performance on the 80-Class, yet it ballooning in cost.

[high garden]

this is cool! how'd you calculate the data though? I'd imagine a rtx 4080 dozens or hundreds of times faster than a gtx 280

[mellow cairn]

Which is why it's zero 😄

[high garden]

I interpreted it as the rtx 4080 was 400ish% faster than a gtx 280 which seems extremely low to me

[mellow cairn]

Is this because you can't read graphs?

[high garden]

percentage change on the Y axis, no?

[frail delta]

Hey guys, I've also made a graph.

[mellow cairn]

Need number of Xs

[high garden]

this interpretation would mean a gtx 480 is infinitely faster than a gtx 280

[frosty oriole]

I took the performance difference from TechPowerUp, Technical City and Gamers Nexus (when available), averaged them together, and then totalled them up.

For example, the 460 is 55% faster than the 260 on average (so we're at 55), but the 560 was only 24% faster than the 460 (increasing the number to 79), etc. Hopefully that makes sense.

[limber nacelle]

wow the gen on gen upift on the 2060 vs 3060 is a lot less than i remembered

[high garden]

I understand. still surprised that the last 15ish years of GPU development means that cards are only a couple times faster.\

[mellow cairn]

Wait.... Is each gen compared to the previous gen?

[high garden]

oh wait a sec

[frosty oriole]

Yeah, the 20-Series actually had a decent performance uplift for the 60-Class, but 70 and 80-Class prices went up compared to the 10-Series, despite the performance not scaling as well as the 10-Series did for the 9-Series, which is why people were upset.

[mellow cairn]

Because in that case it's useful but extremely non obvious

[high garden]

if you added up each one instead of mulitplied it

[mellow cairn]

So the "cumulative" isn't useful

[high garden]

that's why the performance is so low

[frosty oriole]

Yes.

[frosty oriole]

I added that to clarify why the numbers went up. Would there be a better word to use?

[high garden]

but to be clear, this isn't 55% improvement (1.55) multiplied by 25% improvement (1.25) to get the gen over gen performance of multiple generations... this is 55% + 25%

[frosty oriole]

Here's the raw numbers.

[swift moss]

nooooo la policia

[frosty oriole]

Yes, the generational uplift percentage keeps adding.

[high garden]

so you can't look at GPUs from multiple gens apart and say "the gtx 480 was 1/2 the speed of the gtx 1080"

[frail delta]

Come on, let's keep it PG.

[high garden]

it only works if you're comparing 1 gen vs the next one I guess

[left dove]

lmao

[frosty oriole]

Yeah, the chart's to show how things have improved comparitively with each generation.

[limber nacelle]

OMG I LOVE THE NEW PFP

[left dove]

[frosty oriole]

It's really interesting to see how the 80-Class has improved linearly compared to previous generations so consistently.

[limber nacelle]

btw idk if i ever told you this pey but

[frail delta]

[high garden]

alright... this explains my confusion. thanks. this is why I was so suprised that the gtx 280 is only 1/4th the speed of a rtx 4090. it's not. it's actually many dozens of times more than that

[limber nacelle]

the reason why i love this emote

is because ive always thought it's doing the end of the fortnite default dance

[left dove]

LMAO

[limber nacelle]

and it felt very smug to me

[frosty oriole]

Ye, no problem. Sorry about the confusion. Is there anything you think I could add to the graph to clarify that?

[left dove]

sharks

and lasers

put bender on there smoking a cigar looking pissed off

[frosty oriole]

Haha, okay.

[high garden]

it might be worth showing absolute values on a bar graph (like through a firestrike score for example), and then between each bar draw a little arrow with +(whatever percentage uplift that gen is)... that way both perspectives are included.

[limber nacelle]

pey now that you have a house you need a car and i think it must be this one

[left dove]

ok but i legit want a kei truck

[high garden]

this'd be more work though, it's up to you obviously

[limber nacelle]

ok but look how soft this one looks

[left dove]

i mean yeah but its not cat

[limber nacelle]

and think about how mushy the exterior would be in the rain

[frosty oriole]

Ye, I made the graph on this site, so I'm not sure if I'd actually be able to do that or not.
https://www.rapidtables.com/tools/line-graph.html

[high garden]

fair enough. idk if you have access to excel, but if not you could try google sheets or libreoffice calc or some other similar program. it's no big deal tho

[high garden]

excel for sure can do this though

[frosty oriole]

The weird thing is, it does include the values by the points, but won't show them unless I hover over them.

[iron glen]

https://tenor.com/view/totoro-miyazaki-running-run-catbus-gif-26515035

[random gyro]

Could my power supply blow up from a screwdriver touching my motherboard during on? I did the paper clip method and it’s clicking but no fan is spinning, it’s a Corsair fan

[iron glen]

blow up, no
breake it, maybe

[random gyro]

I smelt a burnt smell

I kept clicking the powersupply and it was clicking but the fan was not spinning

[high garden]

probably just limitations of the program.

[dawn tundra]

One of my best friends is wanting to get a new gaming rig he said he was going to talk to his dad about the specs I told him I can build him a PC but apparently his dad recommended him the 5060 I'm about to lose my shit I swear to God

[verbal prawn]

ok why is the pfp actually cute

[swift moss]

what yall think of this?
https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/soldering-station_mechanic-957dw_C5357041.html

[high garden]

dad probably knows just enough about computers to know the 60 series class is the entry level and 50 series is the newest gen

thinks it's a good fit without checking performance numbers

or pricing

[dawn tundra]

I said it's meh for AI training

[high garden]

it's a gaming rig tho, no?

[dawn tundra]

Yeah and he doesn't even care about AI

I told him it's garbage for gaming

Which is pretty accurate I would say

[high garden]

tbh your best bet is probably getting radeon card or a used one

the 9070 xt's genuinely look really good

and the pricing isn't bananas for what it is

[dawn tundra]

Yeah I think I'm just going to try to build them something I don't really think they care about looks

I think what they have right now is like a 1060

Or I think they said something like a 1660 I don't remember

[high garden]

in the modern day that's kinda rough tbh.

[dawn tundra]

Yeah that's why he wants to upgrade

[high garden]

although I think it's still pretty popular

[dawn tundra]

Yeah it's decent with wood personally prefer it over a 50 series unless it's the 90 but still I'd still rather get a 40 90 than a 50 90

[high garden]

my strat has always been buying used high end cards from like 2 gens ago or getting a new high end card on a heavy sale (which is just not gonna happen rn)

and I keep the card for ages so the price of it ends up working out

[dawn tundra]

Yeah damn those scalpers

probably be smart for a gaming studio to buy a shit ton of cards and scalp em themselves

Sure it wouldn't be ethical but when was the last time a gaming studio was really ethical except for valve

Imo

[high garden]

a few years ago AMD was just trying to get rid of their 6950xt stock as quickly as possible for the 7900xtx launch and they had a deal where if you bought a CPU I didn't need, the price of the GPU was like $500... so I found someone who wanted the CPU anyway, they paid for that and I got what was a $1100 GPU for $500 ~18 months after launch... that replaced my GTX 980

[high garden]

I don't know if they'd have priority on bulk deals like this tbh

I think everyone's starved for cards due to the AI industry. very little silicon is being allocated to desktop GPUs

[dawn tundra]

Yeah I guess that's true but you would think that that wouldn't be the case

Well now that I think about it most larger infrastructure like servers and lower end like workstations definitely would require more

[high garden]

maybe just go for a used 3080. the pricing on these is pretty good for what it is

[bronze summit]

4070 Super is 3080 yes or no?

[high garden]

I'm quite happy with my 6950xt and will use it for years to come...

[high garden]

eh, doesn't quite work like that

[dawn tundra]

I guess my friends really mad at me or whatever because I told him that the 50 60 is a really shitty ass card for gaming and he is just dead set on getting it the 16 GB model even though he doesn't have a real dedicated GPU yet it's still would be an upgrade but it would be a waste of money and I'm trying to tell him that I've spent hours and hours and hours doing research and he just doesn't believe me and won't let me help him but I guess you can just waste money

It's not my problem I guess but he's going to be complaining to me whenever he gets a shitty ass graphics card

[halcyon beacon]

Nuh
Performancewise, the 4070 SUPER is a 200~225w 3090 Ti/6950 XT

[high garden]

I'd say it's relatively close but you they're seperate models on seperate architectures.

[halcyon beacon]

You're confusing the 4070 with the 4070 SUPER =p

Performancewise, 4070 = 3080 10GB
4070S = 6950 XT/3090 Ti

Raster, that is

[high garden]

they're within 8% of each other, I stand by what I said.

"relatively close"

[sinful cobalt]

4070=3080
4070super=3080ti/3090 territory

[high garden]

they're different models

no two models of cards "equal" each other

[halcyon beacon]

I don't understand the relevancy of that when there's tests available =p

There's a reason people do hardware tests

[high garden]

how do you think techpowered up came up with these numbers...? they peformed "hardware tests" like everyone else.

if you'd like to pull up someone elses data we can use that too. but right now I'm the only one actually sourcing anything

[high garden]

I thought he was on a 1060. he's on integrated graphics?

[dawn tundra]

I don't know he keeps saying that he doesn't have one even though I'm pretty sure he has a 1060

But I keep trying to tell him that if he wants to get a newer card he's probably going to have to upgrade to newer speeds so it's going to have to replace a lot of the stuff in his computer

If he wants to get actual performance out of his new card

But he won't listen to me

[high garden]

I mean doing a whole platform upgrade does cost a lot more

what's he got right now?

[dawn tundra]

I don't know just some random PC

[high garden]

I mean

if you're advising him to spend a bunch of money on really expensive hardware, I think the responsible thing to do would first be to figure out what he has and then figure out what he wants to do and what his financial constraints are.

maybe his CPU is good enough for now. maybe it just needs some extra RAM 🤷‍♂️ who knows

[high garden]

if he just wants to play fortnite and rocket league he doesn't need a ballin rig, ya know?

[solar moat]

ram is very inpactfill to gaming

[high garden]

it is if you don't have enough

if you have enough tbh it matters but it's not world changing most of the time

[solar moat]

well it can easily make a 25% improvement

[high garden]

if you're using literally the worst ram out there on a very memory hungry CPU platform with very memory constrained games, then I suppose maybe this is true that upgrading to baller RAM might leave to peformance improvements this big? but typically we're talking in the neighborhood of like 2-5% in my experience. decent enough RAM is fine as long as you have enough.

[dawn tundra]

AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with Radeon Graphics is the CPU he said he had would this be a potential bottleneck for a 4060 I don't really know much when it comes to terms on the earlier rad Cpu's

[high garden]

I brought up RAM specifically because this could be an issue... just saying knowing his specs matter

[solar moat]

the r5 5600g is not a good cpu by any means but its fine with 4060 100% dont get a 5600G its wrsoe then 3600x if paried with gpu

[dawn tundra]

What should you get for replacement like a 5800

[solar moat]

its fine

[high garden]

I wouldn't replace it if you're gaming on a budget

[dawn tundra]

All right

[high garden]

how much RAM?

what's the PSU?

[solar moat]

9900k and its running ddr4 3000 scored lower then my 4790k till we fixed the ram settings

[high garden]

ddr4 3000 is pretty respectable though. it sounds like it might've been a test error more than anything. there's no way a 4790k outperforms the 9900k on ddr4 3000. I used a 4790k for years and years and that thing was dog slow

[solar moat]

100% it was not test erorr after the fixed there ram settings

[elder quarry]

Does the 4790k really support ddr4

[high garden]

no

it's a ddr3 platform. that's another reason I'm saying test error

[solar moat]

saddly there 4.9ghz was not stable with the ram being some what ok since linpack is very light if your ram is slow

[high garden]

if the issue really was memory bandwidth, the 4790k would be insanely worse.

I ran mine on ddr3 2100mhz iirc.

[solar moat]

trrds 19 @elder quarry dose thta sound bad

[high garden]

assuming his PSU can handel it and he has at least 16gb of RAM, I'd legit just get a used 3080 and be done with it tbh. this'll be such a huge jump over integrated graphics and the CPU is good enough, so I'm sure he'll be quite happy.

[solar moat]

wow thats not that good

[tidal geyser]

Higher speeds then most ddr4 kits

[dawn tundra]

What about a 4060 TI

[solar moat]

i dont think they mean ddr3 4200

[high garden]

it was better than the stock stuff which was 800mhz 🤣

[tidal geyser]

I do :3

[solar moat]

i can only run ddr3 2400 once i went to 4x8GB sticks

[high garden]

not true. ddr4 kits are typically anywhere from 2666 on the ultra budget side to 3200/3600 in the mid range, and towards the end of ddr4's life we saw as high as ddr4 5000

[tidal geyser]

You said ddr and used MHz in the same sentence

You basicly said you had ddr3 that was running at 4200MT

[high garden]

if you wanna be pedantic as hell, we can say MT/S... but you know EXACLY what I'm talking about

[solar moat]

they where running xmp and the timings where VERY SHIT and fixing that/messing with ring was able to gain 96% in linpack

[high garden]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-ackchyually-actually-gif-11156171

every kit of RAM is marketed in mhz even if that's not technically correct. stop being this guy

[tidal geyser]

No

[solar moat]

cmdrsoys testing on there 8700k

[tidal geyser]

Kits are staring to be marked with Mt

[solar moat]

idk

[solar moat]

JUST SAY DDR4 4800 or somthing

[tidal geyser]

Also the main reason people keep using it is because people who know better keep using it

[tidal geyser]

Yeah nothing at the end da best

[high garden]

the point is you knew what I meant

[solar moat]

well there wrong if they list mhz since there spec dose not list that as mhz

[mellow cairn]

Your problem is that cumulative doesn't work.

What you want is a graph showing generational improvement

[rigid fjord]

not really, still fine for 1080p gaming

[solar moat]

it makes sence to use data rate over clock rate since ddr can do 2x the data per clock but mhz is not right unit

[high garden]

... obviously. we all know that. but we also know what the standard parlance is when talking about ram speeds. 99% of people say mhz. all of the marketing material says mhz. even tech reviewers USUALLY says mhz

you know what I meant, and this whole conversation is dumb and is just side stepping what we were talking about before.

[solar moat]

and you listed that benchmark was buged 100% it was not

[tidal geyser]

The channel this discord is from has been using MT for quite some time now

[high garden]

...? how is that a response?

[solar moat]

linpack predates ddr altogether and its just a math library

[high garden]

that's fine. I don't spend every day hanging out here 😅 the point is you knew what i meant. can we just leave it at that?

[rigid fjord]

2133 is the normal lowest for ddr4 if you're doing jedec, not 2666

[solar moat]

i dont i just say ddr5 at 4269 or what ever

[mellow cairn]

Yes, that's fine, but in the future, use MT

[high garden]

true but I don't see hardly anyone selling that outside of the server space

[rigid fjord]

then you're blind as fuck

[high garden]

I know the technical stuff. I've known it for years. the point of language is that you can communicate info. yall knew what I meant, this is so dumb

[rigid fjord]

i've seen it for both desktop and laptops, 'specially for oem prebuilds

[high garden]

it's almost like all the top sellers are 3200mhz 🤣

[thorn pewter]

Huh

[azure topaz]

2133 is a jedec speed

[high garden]

yes...

[azure topaz]

3200 that isn’t cl22 is xmp

[high garden]

yeah, I think we're all on the same page

[thorn pewter]

Am I messing something or is the argument about using the right term for ram speeds which is in mts or what?

[azure topaz]

if you don’t have xmp on there’s a decent chance the sticks default at 2133

[rigid fjord]

because 3200 cl16 is the speed and type of kit you'd want for any system running ddr4 providing you're not using any prebuilt pc

[rigid fjord]

well 3200 cl20-24 would be jedec kits

[azure topaz]

is 3200 c20 a jedec spec? i’ve never ever seen that. only cl22

[solar moat]

very uncomen

[rigid fjord]

it is tbh, you'd find it on laptop ram

[high garden]

it's technically mega-transfers per second. but almost nobody except the geekiest of nerds actually says that. all the marketing material says mhz, most people say mhz. and people were intentionally arguing in bad faith because they "thought" I was talking about something twice as fast as I was... which is obvious bologna.

[azure topaz]

hm i see

[rigid fjord]

actually no, very common

[solar moat]

i avoide laptops

[tidal geyser]

No we were not

[high garden]

when you literally search for "mt/s" you get "mt/s"... who would've thought

[azure topaz]

the 3200 jedec ram i have is cl22

[tidal geyser]

You said it was not used

[high garden]

it's really rare

and the fact that you explicitly have to search for it proves my point

[tidal geyser]

I just showed you its not really

[azure topaz]

not so much in the days of nerds

[solar moat]

where is my tcl 2.5 ram

[azure topaz]

bro windows measures in MT/s (although it’s hit and miss sometimes you don’t have the update)

[high garden]

you literally went out of your way to find listings because searching for normal DDR5 gave you loads of listings in mhz... I know becuase I just posted this

[azure topaz]

go into your task manager info tab and click memory and read the speed 😭💀

[rigid fjord]

think it was 2021/2022 when 3200 became a jedec spec and not just xmp

[thorn pewter]

You missed the whole point

[solar moat]

its saying 6ghz?

[high garden]

enlighten me.

[solar moat]

form taskmgr on mine

[azure topaz]

samsung uses Mbps, so both of you get fucked, the biggest dram manufacturer picks

[thorn pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/let-there-be-light-gif-14456964169168008421

[frigid blade]

My windows is showing MT/s in task manager

[rigid fjord]

@azure topaz ddr4 jedec spec's

[azure topaz]

because for all intents and purposes, a mega transfer is a megabit because why the fuck does it have a different name

[solar moat]

can i just rant about ram before some one fights over clock rate vs data rate

[azure topaz]

and if you’re a real turbo nerd it doesn’t matter and you understand what they’re saying anyways

[frigid blade]

Saw a dude here refuse to be corrected earlier today about it even though they were obviously wrong, so hard to ignore

[azure topaz]

obviously someone complaining about their cheap 4800MHz ram is not talking about a 9600MT/s kit

[high garden]

I like how all of Linus's thumbnails about RAM are also in Mhz 🤣

[rigid fjord]

no, we're nerds and geeks who'd fight about our favourite anime characters let alone this

[tidal geyser]

8 years old

[elder quarry]

I am, where’s my 12000mt/s

[solar moat]

its hear allready

[frigid blade]

We were talking about that today, 12XXX record

[rigid fjord]

12,800mt/s via XOC as a record

[solar moat]

ah yes Holo is best girl

[frail delta]

Discord Nitro is $15/month now

[high garden]

and 2 years old... he doesn't exactly make videos about RAM speeds every month

[azure topaz]

im 93% sure in both of those videos he explains how ram speed isnt mhz and how ddr works

[frigid blade]

bid is already at $260 and theres like 5.5 days left

[elder quarry]

Yeah but not for my cheap ddr5 “6000 mhz”

[azure topaz]

im just saying

[solar moat]

ram speed dose matter just xmp is shit at runinng good

[azure topaz]

😭 either way it doesnt matter just use context clues and know whats up

[high garden]

that wasn't the convo...? but uh, ok I guess

[frigid blade]

Sigma 80 core r940

[solar moat]

let say your 9950x and your loading 6000 then you plug in 6400 most of time the 6400 ram is going to be slower 😢

[rigid fjord]

i don't because there's the rare few you could try looking for which can use xmp

[frigid blade]

can overclocking GPU cause tearing without crashing?

[azure topaz]

not bad

[frigid blade]

not yet, but its still over 5 days left on bidding

[azure topaz]

ahh

[rigid fjord]

nowadays it's primarily all jedec especially on the ones using ddr5 but for the ones using ddr4, yup there's xmp kits for laptops, and a rare few can do xmp on them

[azure topaz]

cuz those cpus are usually like 200$ each lol

[frigid blade]

thankfully theres not too much competition yet, lots of views but only 7 bidders

[frigid blade]

yah they are actually pretty good

[elder quarry]

Not on Ali

[mint umbra]

Is there a better laptop in this price range

[azure topaz]

yeah 20 skylake cores arent exactly slow

[frigid blade]

apparently close to lower 12th gen scores

[mint umbra]

Price is in case btw

Cad*

[rigid fjord]

i remember when pc's had a button on them marked turbo

[azure topaz]

my fault the cpus arent expensive its the board

[verbal prawn]

compare iit to 256 epyc cores

[azure topaz]

ali in the us currently sucks

[elder quarry]

Tire

[azure topaz]

compare the price to 256 epyc cores

[frigid blade]

Tire

[elder quarry]

Yeah

[thorn pewter]

Wait on sky/ Kabyle lake consumer Mobos, what was the best one for the lag 1151 socket?

[rigid fjord]

pressing a button to make your cpu go form 33mhz to suddenly 66 mhz was fun at times

[azure topaz]

7700k but a 9900k if you get fiesty or a comet lake chip if you g et fiestier

[frigid blade]

what does ebay even consider a hot auction? Views?

[azure topaz]

you

[frigid blade]

oh

the seller puts that

[rigid fjord]

the moment you sell a sister on it so she can get a ride to a funeral

[frigid blade]

Its interesting, I get 0 tearing in nomad but games do

I just confirmed it was the OC on the GPU, but like still, why steel nomad no tear

[rigid fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwLSUoqIXh8

[frigid blade]

ive been meaning to watch top gear from episode 1

[thorn pewter]

Ya have seen some people getting i9 9900ks on h170 pro mobos, but is there a another Xeon option that would work on a mobo like that

[azure topaz]

no

if you want elcheapo get the mutant cpus, but why do you care about 1151

[thorn pewter]

Cuz me got hurt, gf got me a gift for me, it was a h170 pro mobo with a evga Gtx 570 lol

[rigid fjord]

you do realise that involves modding the mobo and cpu right ?

[thorn pewter]

Yeah doing bios flashing and iirc cpu jumpering it was I forgot

[gilded harness]

The shitbox arrives

[azure topaz]

bios flash and taping off pads depending on board manu

[thorn pewter]

I saw a French dude from a few years back did it

[gilded harness]

I forgot to DDU

[rigid fjord]

mostly yes, there's some rewiring/jumping some pins as well if i remember correctly

[azure topaz]

i dont think so, if so thats like a specific brand and not more than one

[thorn pewter]

Ahh now that finals are done and and semester is over it’s a niche thing todo

[azure topaz]

my fault, a couple more than 1 brand, but only 2 are common

and its just 2 pins, you can probably just draw on them with a pencil or something

[thorn pewter]

Could you show me them 🙏

[azure topaz]

search "bga to lga 1151"

[thorn pewter]

Yah and mines is Asus h170 pro so it should work

[rigid fjord]

nope, you'd have to blank'em out

[thorn pewter]

Ahh ok

[rigid fjord]

v1 vs v2 sockets on a single layout

[azure topaz]

the map is right there wdym

2 pins you have to connect and the rest you isolate

[rigid fjord]

a pencil wouldn't be enough for isolating

[thorn pewter]

When the French dude I saw did it, he did 4 pins Instade of 2 idk why tho

[azure topaz]

not for isolating yo for connecting, graphite is pretty conductive 😭

[rigid fjord]

ah, you meant it for that, my bad dude

[azure topaz]

lol ur good

use kapton tape for isolating

or electrical tape if you are poor (or just a normal person)

(beware most electrical tapes are rated for only 60c)

[rigid fjord]

i know some do pin deletes instead to really ensure it for the mods

[thorn pewter]

Ahh okie

Now for the mutant CPU’s

[azure topaz]

mutant cpus are easy ish, you buy them, tell the seller your board, and you flash the china bios like a good boy

sometimes they mount differently but usually its pretty easy

[thorn pewter]

Shouldn’t be too hard todo

[rigid fjord]

getting a mutant mobo would bee more fun...kinda

[thorn pewter]

Eh I don’t mind as it’s a set that I’ll fuck around with

[frigid blade]

How do those Russian swapped chipset boards work

And why

[azure topaz]

they buy borked board

steal the chipset

apply chipset to new board

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804662170161.html? as for mutant cpu

[frigid blade]

Is it the same board or same chipset board?

[azure topaz]

same product family i guess is the best way of describing it

like c612 vs x99

[frigid blade]

What’s a mutant cpu?

[azure topaz]

BGA to LGA or similar

so a laptop CPU converted to a desktop socket

[frigid blade]

Learn something new everyday with you

[frigid blade]

Can you do vice versa?

[rigid fjord]

bga/pga to lga or visa versa

[azure topaz]

use your brain

[frigid blade]

Idk I’m not smart that’s why I’m asking you

[azure topaz]

how do you make a desktop cpu package phsyically smaller

you dont. the chip is big.

[frigid blade]

But he said you can do vice versa

[azure topaz]

laptop chips are small so making them bigger is no problemo

[rigid fjord]

depends on the laptop in question tbf dude

[azure topaz]

i mean fair

but in this case

whats even cooler is that said mutants are 10th gen

so you can use 10th gen on a 6th gen board

[frigid blade]

I wanna put my 13900kf in a laptop

[thorn pewter]

They seem cheap too

[rigid fjord]

if we talk the more modern cpu's then yeah finding the laptop equivalent and converting it over would be easier

[rigid fjord]

13900hx exists

[azure topaz]

probably some clevo chassis with an LGA 1700 socket you can do that with, idk if anything would support 13th tho cause usually its a 1 and done for support

[azure topaz]

indeed, but you get what you pay for sometimes

[rigid fjord]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/232171/intel-core-i913900hx-processor-36m-cache-up-to-5-40-ghz/specifications.html literally a 13900k but for a laptop

[frigid blade]

I need summer to hurry up so my professor could send over extra equipment

[azure topaz]

research well, some of these weird ES chips come with odd drawbacks that arent terrible but could be a hinderance

[rigid fjord]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/232138/intel-core-i913980hx-processor-36m-cache-up-to-5-60-ghz/specifications.html there's this one also

[azure topaz]

personally in 2025 id only buy the ones that are based off the HK chips so you get full multiplier OC

[frigid blade]

Was more of a joke, lol

[thorn pewter]

Interesting,am trying to see as am looking for really the highest core count I really care about for chepos, which one you think would be the best in terms of this situation

[frigid blade]

After realizing how powerful the old CPUs still are, I really don’t get why some people who don’t need to go overkill on laptops

[rigid fjord]

i would say those that are just 'h' or 'hs' because they're the equivalent of non lettered sku intel chips/'f' sku intel chips

[azure topaz]

anythign with 6-8 cores cause thats where youre topping out

[rigid fjord]

and are less likely to have the degradation issue if you look for a 13/14th gen intel laptop cpu

[frigid blade]

I’ve seen students (mainly women) at my college buy some pretty high spec laptops for writing notes and that’s about it

[rigid fjord]

they've been upsold it for a reason or 2 quite likely

[frigid blade]

Im not pointing it out they are women to say they aren’t smart or anything please don’t take it like that
I think it’s just the marketing

[frail delta]

You're making it sound more like that...

[junior valve]

traded my rog aio for this good or bad trade?

[azure topaz]

bad

[rigid fjord]

if anyone don't have a clue about laptops much and want it for a certain purpose, it's not that hard to upsell a much higher spec laptop than a lower one for their needs

[junior valve]

it was a 240 rog aio

[trim gyro]

laptop shopping is hard

[azure topaz]

oh okay

then slay good job

[rigid fjord]

bad tbh, would have been better with a thermalright/arctif aio

[frigid blade]

Definitely, I helped my gf pick out her laptop and it went well, but even schools are clueless. Like recommended requirements they say “i7” there’s a lot of low end i7 chips that could suck or high end be overkill

[junior valve]

arctics aio cost like double corsair/nzxt here lol

[rigid fjord]

thing is, that i7 recommendation is due to a single bit of software which only states it due to needing an 8c 16t or better cpu

[rigid fjord]

move countries you're getting screwed

[frigid blade]

Ah, that makes more sense, but we don’t use any software here, it’s all web based

[junior valve]

corsair/nzxt are like 50-100$ new here while arctics usally goes for 170-200 for the same size

[rigid fjord]

you can guess which software within 2-3 guesses what one the recommendation is for tbh

[rigid fjord]

yeah, you're getting screwed for sure

[junior valve]

but arent the corsair nautius 360 better than the lf3 360 pro?

[frigid blade]

@azure topaz the eBay listing I sent earlier, what should my max price target be on it? I was thinking like $500

[rigid fjord]

not afaik

[frigid blade]

I probably couldn’t build it for that cheap but I don’t wanna pay too much

I can’t find the r940 barebones anywhere probably because it’s newer release

[random gyro]

If I send a charge to my mobo with a screwdriver can it break my powersupply?

my mobo touched a screwdriver when It was on

Now my psu doesn’t work from pin method, just has a burning smell

So idk if I need a new mobo and psu or just a psu

[frigid blade]

I’d think modern PSUs have protection against shorts

[rigid fjord]

if you have a bad psu, it could

[random gyro]

It’s like a white Corsair

Cx750M

[rigid fjord]

have you not seen what's marked down as a tier F psu ?

[junior valve]

idk i saw some benchmarks on yt

[frigid blade]

No, are they new? That’s kinda sad if so

[rigid fjord]

so a tier C psu, that should have some minimal protections

[frigid blade]

But probably also cheap

[rigid fjord]

nope but they still exist

[junior valve]

@rigid fjord

[random gyro]

The screwdriver hit near my ram and cpu

[gilded harness]

Perfectly fit

[random gyro]

But like I think my psu got fried.

[frigid blade]

Please use canned air spray or something

[random gyro]

I used a Bobby pin and connected the two power on the 24pin

no fan spin, just a burning smell

[gilded harness]

It is a temporary case whatsoever

[frigid blade]

Hold on

What are you water cooling

[gilded harness]

2200g lol

I had this aio for like a long time now and idk what to use it on

[frigid blade]

Ah

What GPU?

[gilded harness]

Vega 56

[frigid blade]

Does it do well in modern games?

[gilded harness]

Ill test it out

Installing driver right now

[frigid blade]

Hm 3050 equivalent

[gilded harness]

Woah it still gets latest update

[rigid fjord]

nope, a brush + hoover or electric blower

[frigid blade]

I need to buy a mid end GPU or something I wanna see what that is like

I kinda skipped from lower to high instead of just upgrading in steps

[rigid fjord]

looks like that's the only reliable review of it

[junior valve]

yea ig

[gilded harness]

now time to get a better cpu

wait no i also need dp

[silk stratus]

I damaged my PSU.

I used to use it to just power the GPU and I manually turned it on by shorting the turn on pins

I think a few times I shorted the wrong pins and now it auto turns on as soon as it gets power

(i'm using the HDPLEX GAN 250W PSU)

[rigid fjord]

i feel sorry about the hdd choice

[gilded harness]

the hdd is from like 2007 or 2008 lmao

it was from my mom's pc

have to keep it because my mom loves looking at old pics

[rigid fjord]

clearly considering it's doing sata 2 speeds

[gilded harness]

yeah its unfortunate

[solar moat]

what is that mobo

[gilded harness]

acer prebuild mobo

[solar moat]

pleass tell me it has suprto for 5000 cpus with bios update

[rigid fjord]

read

[gilded harness]

no it doesnt lol!!!

[solar moat]

i did read that but allso the chipset

[solar moat]

new pc time

[rigid fjord]

a320 is the most likely one used

[bronze summit]

Should I buy a fan or an AC unit

[rigid fjord]

both

[frigid blade]

Both

[bronze summit]

Why both

[frigid blade]

Why not

[gilded harness]

why not

[forest lotus]

My mental state right now

[rigid fjord]

ac unit to bring in cooler air, and a fan to spread it about

[bronze summit]

https://tenor.com/view/reddit-reddit-gold-kind-stranger-slot-machine-gif-9286172767555917428

[rigid fjord]

#1027757333117415424

[forest lotus]

Update: it's still worse

[molten hearth]

ik my bad i just saw the support one and made a post sorry

[solar moat]

https://tenor.com/b0sor.gif

[mint umbra]

Maybe one day I'll try Linux

But the fact I can play curtain games sucks

I can't*

[solar moat]

RIP i got 258 points in time spy

[gilded harness]

i only need mobo/ram right now

i have this sitting since january lmao

bro has no purpose until now 😭

[limber nacelle]

it would be very funny if it was DOA

[rigid fjord]

many games work on a couple linux distro's it's only a few using certain anti-cheats that don't

[mint umbra]

Yeah anti cheat games don't work usually

[solar moat]

LN2 to make ti run faster

[forest lotus]

Hammer to threaten with

[solar moat]

my aura is nomral all i need

[granite sundial]

why do the colours look so desaturated on my monitor when viewing sdr content

am i meant to turn hdr off when im not viewing hdr content cuz the problem is the recommended hdr settings for my monitor look totally fucked when hdr is off

[rigid fjord]

you are meant to turn it off

[granite sundial]

the recommended gamma for my monitor in dci-p3 is 2.6 though it looks really off with hdr off

i cant tell if colours are undersaturated or if im just used to oversaturated to shit colours

previous monitor was a very budget ips

[rigid fjord]

if it blurrs, then oversaturated if i remember correctly

[gilded harness]

which one should i buy between random brands DP or UGREEN DP

[tidal geyser]

yes

[gilded harness]

sorry LOL

[tidal geyser]

did the one that came with the monitor break

[gilded harness]

no i only have HDMI

[tidal geyser]

why not keep using it

[gilded harness]

cuz no 165hz whatever grah

[tidal geyser]

that monitor 100% came with DP

[torpid iron]

9OOOOO

[gilded harness]

wha

[sinful cobalt]

i think my igpu does better than ts

[tidal geyser]

why

was shipping horrible for the rest of the parts

[gilded harness]

no somebody selling it for $125

it's still sealed

so i bought it and forgot to think about the rest lmao

[mellow aspen]

Hey, a deal is a deal.

[torpid iron]

Ment to be an OOOH not a 9Oooo

[gilded harness]

i make stupid financial decision most of the time

[tidal geyser]

the 5 7500f is 120

[solar moat]

4790k igpu got thay score

[sinful cobalt]

o no wonder

mines a 780m

[rigid fjord]

the only time i've done that has now ended up with a wall with several organisers that has a ton of components in

[solar moat]

My real scoee with gpu is over 4000

[sinful cobalt]

a lot of ppl do actually

[boreal vine]

who would win, 4x 1tb sata ssd in raid 0 or 1 nvme m.2 boyo

[rigid fjord]

duh, next best to the ones the amd ai cpu's have

[sinful cobalt]

what gpu?

[sinful cobalt]

shhh

https://tenor.com/view/trollface-gif-8242347154758580084

[tidal geyser]

up to nvme boy

but most of the time nvme

[boreal vine]

RAHHHHH

not mine as I'm still waiting for it

[rigid fjord]

nein

[boreal vine]

mango mango mango

[sinful cobalt]

shaddap

[rigid fjord]

maketh me

[tidal geyser]

wat

[sinful cobalt]

havent u heard bro this is the new airflow meta, its called 4D airflow

[tidal geyser]

how would that even work

[sinful cobalt]

thats a good question that should not be answered for there is no answer

[rigid fjord]

holes cut in with a diamond bit hole saw

the nzxt case fixing tools

[solar moat]

Gtx970

[stray cairn]

NZXT case fixing tools is to not buy them

[lethal bay]

My NZXT case was fine

[rigid fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8miBOwQm35Y

you can never feel bad about fixing nzxt cases

[lethal bay]

Yeah I basically had the NZXT pre-fixed version of that lmao

[prime parcel]

so performant.... my brand new gaming laptop can run all of the demanding games

[rigid fjord]

tbf any and all fixes > than the stock versions

[lethal bay]

The flow variants weren’t bad

[ripe sable]

Wich of these Should i use for smoother game play

[rigid fjord]

antilang, rsr and boost

[true stirrup]

He is discovering peak

[magic kite]

Need some help. Anyone? Any clue how to fix this?

[forest lotus]

I'm now 3rd overall for the A3000M 12GB

And first for the 12850HX and A3000M 12GB

No I didn't feel like screenshoting

[bleak basin]

Hi can anyone help me with Windows Drive partition
I wanna create a partition of 60Gb for linux but windows is limiting it to 35Gb
i got 414Gb free

[tidal geyser]

what does the beep code say

[magic kite]

🤷‍♂️

[tidal geyser]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[tidal geyser]

can you find out what the beep code says

[magic kite]

Well its ram error.. maybe..

And i dont know how to fix it

[tidal geyser]

maybe by fixing ram?

[tidal geyser]

is it HP or dell

[magic kite]

Thinkcentre

[gloomy sleet]

honestly hot take here vram doesn’t matter as much as people care about it

8gb cards are still 100% useable for modern games

[tidal geyser]

it keeps being proven even 12GB at some times is not

[tidal geyser]

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=lenovo+thinkcenter+beep+codes

[magic kite]

Memory not detected?

Eehh???

[tidal geyser]

do you only have one ram stick

[magic kite]

I have 2

But different

[tidal geyser]

tried both in channel a and b?

[gloomy sleet]

where???

[magic kite]

Uhh whats dat

[tidal geyser]

and only one of the sticks

[gloomy sleet]

for 1080p 8gb cards are fine

[tidal geyser]

hardware unboxed

[tidal geyser]

yeah most times

[gloomy sleet]

what did they say?

just because a game uses all 8gb of vram doesn’t mean 8gb isn’t enough lol

[tidal geyser]

that the 5060 comapred to the b580 is horrible the instant there is anything vram limited

[magic kite]

Hmm it boot fine with the original ram

[tidal geyser]

well when a b580 has 2x the fps and way smoother i think it can be

[tidal geyser]

o you found the issue and the fix

[magic kite]

Ehh?

[gloomy sleet]

you realise this isn’t an apples to apples comparison considering those are 2 different cards lol

b580 is better because it’s just better at raw processing

limit it to 8gb of vram usage and it’d still be a lot better

[tidal geyser]

so a 250$ card is just better then a 400$ one

[gloomy sleet]

yes

also isn’t 5060 $300 msrp?

[tidal geyser]

i forgot a ti

[bleak basin]

can someone help pls

[tidal geyser]

no

[bleak basin]

:(

[tidal geyser]

mhm

[gloomy sleet]

that was 12gb no?

[tidal geyser]

heh??

[gloomy sleet]

there isn’t a 12gb 5060ti?

[tidal geyser]

you are going insane

[gloomy sleet]

whatever in real world performance test i’ve done 8gb has just not limited my 4060

[tidal geyser]

i think there never has been a 60 ti class card with 12GB of vram

[tidal geyser]

you only play racing games

[gloomy sleet]

i was comparing it to a 2080ti i also have lying around and it was comparable

[gloomy sleet]

no?

[tidal geyser]

yes

[gloomy sleet]

i also play battlefield 4 sometimes

[tidal geyser]

why did you get a 4060 when you have a 2080 ti

[gloomy sleet]

power efficiency

[tidal geyser]

a game from 2014

[gloomy sleet]

2080ti uses more power then my 4060 build overall

[tidal geyser]

its also better

[gloomy sleet]

i also tested some newer games

[gloomy sleet]

it isn’t

it’s not as power efficient

[tidal geyser]

o ffs

no shit will a 2 gen old card not be as power efficient

[gloomy sleet]

that’s why i got the 4060

[gloomy sleet]

exactly making my upgrade from a 2080ti to a 4060 reasonable

[tidal geyser]

jesus how much do you play for power

[gloomy sleet]

i still use the 2080ti in my video editing build with a a310

[gloomy sleet]

i don’t even remember

[gloomy sleet]

it’s absolutely ridiculous though

[sleek ibex]

Estimate?

[ebon marlin]

My phone's battery is weird

[stray cairn]

Imagine paying for power

[ebon marlin]

I have it capped to charge to only 80% and that gets me from 6am to 3pm without needing to be charged but if I don't have the cap and let it charge to 100% it gets me from 6am to like 1am without needing to be charged

[lethal bay]

I just got a 16 Pro Max and with the 80% cap I start my day at 5am and end at like 9pm and usually still have nearly 30% left lmao

beats the shit out of my 12 Pro Max battery

[ripe sable]

Radeon super resolution lowered my fps with 200

[lethal bay]

That’s RSR yeah

RSR is supersampling lmao. You’re rendering at a higher resolution and then downscaling it

[tidal geyser]

no shit

when i need to render more pixels i need to render more pixels and my performance go bad

[lavish needle]

Why is MNK the correct way to say it but KNM isn't? Most people have their mouse on the right side so KNM would make the most sense

[solar moat]

like going form 2k to 4k

[ebon marlin]

Nice do u use ur phone alot

Since I spend most of that time from 6am to 3pm with my phone

[lethal bay]

Decent amount yeah

I have to make several phone calls a day for work

[lethal bay]

I usually say KBM ngl

[gleaming rose]

well there is a new pope now

[tidal geyser]

murican

[gleaming rose]

yeehaw

[tidal geyser]

me no feel safe no mo

[runic trail]

My cpu is stack in the motherboard I have pull the lever and still in there I heat gun it still in it is there any liquid I can use to loose it

?

[tidal geyser]

wat

[tidal geyser]

send pics

[runic trail]

I think my lock is broken and is stank on lock

[tidal geyser]

lift cpu up

i think you broke everything

it did not go all the way back

but that think does not lock on well

so its literally just lift the cpu up

[runic trail]

No is stack idk maybe I bit paste stack around it what liquid is used to remove?

[tidal geyser]

its not thermal paste

unless you put actual glue on there it will come out easy enough

[tidal geyser]

try to put the thingy down again then put pressure on the top part then lift it up again

[runic trail]

The lock was broke. New motherboard gg

[tidal geyser]

why did you even do this

[runic trail]

Somehow the back side was cracked

[tidal geyser]

wtf

you are cursed or just stupid

[runic trail]

It was 7 years motherboard maybe bad plastic

[tidal geyser]

no

plastic??

the PCB is made of fiberglass and copper

it does not really crack

[runic trail]

Nah now is out hahahhaha

[tidal geyser]

yeah was about to say do that

you can just get a replacement top plate

[tidal geyser]

o pleas lorde tell me that is not a wood screw

as that is not the screw you are meant to use anyways

and if wood screw BIG BIG no

https://tenor.com/view/steam-cat-cooking-wet-cat-gif-27103530

[random gyro]

Bros evaporating

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26470175

[unkempt sierra]

can i use my pc forever without a glass panel? this just happened..

[tidal geyser]

WTF

[unkempt sierra]

…..

[frail delta]

lol

[tidal geyser]

HOW

[unkempt sierra]

i took it out to put in new ssd

[tidal geyser]

and put it on a tile floor?

[unkempt sierra]

and it touched tbe ground and broke in my hands

[tidal geyser]

OMG how do people not know this

[unkempt sierra]

i didnt even set the whole thing down, the second the tip touched the floor it smashed

[tidal geyser]

YES THAT IS HOW IT WORKS

[glacial tulip]

rdr2 pushing my cpu and gpu to 100% utilization is this why im crashing

[unkempt sierra]

how what works..

[tidal geyser]

well that

[glacial tulip]

dont put your glass panels on a tile floor

[tidal geyser]

too late

[glacial tulip]

just put it on a nearby carpet or couch

[tidal geyser]

i just put it on my bed

[glacial tulip]

yeah just not on the tile man 💔

[frail delta]

Hey guys is glass fragile?

[tidal geyser]

no never

[unkempt sierra]

sooo can i use it without a cover..?

[glacial tulip]

no u need the panel for ur gpu wattage

[tidal geyser]

no but first get all the glass out pls

[unkempt sierra]

i did

[tidal geyser]

wat

[glacial tulip]

pc is unusable bro gg

[unkempt sierra]

so i cant use it without a cover?

[tidal geyser]

again yes

[glacial tulip]

no

just salvage what u can ig bro

[tidal geyser]

eh?

[glacial tulip]

its true

[tidal geyser]

how

[unkempt sierra]

what

[glacial tulip]

bc u need the panel

[tidal geyser]

why

[glacial tulip]

if he boots its wraps for his gpu 💔

[tidal geyser]

what

[glacial tulip]

its true

[tidal geyser]

where

when

[tidal geyser]

no its not

[glacial tulip]

it happened to my cats siblings owner

he broke his glass panel and he booted and his gpu thermal paste just exploded bro

[tidal geyser]

no

[glacial tulip]

ur not my cat's siblings owner are u bub

[tidal geyser]

the thermal paste is inert

[glacial tulip]

trust me its wraps for that rig

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/alerta-gif-5236527704028489034

[strange atlas]

what causes it again? i havent had tile ground before so i'm not sure

would it be not smart if i paint ram shield/cooling thingy and my cpu cooler

[gleaming rose]

what a grim name for a service outage lmfao

[upper abyss]

is a 6 core CPU with 100% multicore perf better or a 12 core CPU with 90% (based on the 6-core cpu multicore) better for server hosting?

[spring latch]

After some help from the "Windows XP Vista 7 Fans" discord, wit all drivers, I have Windows 8.1 runnning natively on my gemini lake. The ONLY reason it works is my GT 730, we will get Windows 7 running very soon

[boreal vine]

tile floor shenanigans moment

PSA for anyone that does not know, DO NOT WORK WITH YOUR PC IN YOUR FLOOR IF YOU'VE GOT TILED FLOOR, if the glass drops on your floor, it will break

[solar moat]

what are you asking?

[solar moat]

like 12 core cpu that scores same as 6 core cpu in somthing like r23?

[tidal geyser]

Game server hosting tends to be very single core

https://tenor.com/view/cat-car-accident-the-fall-the-kitty-gif-8721145737079531731

[solar moat]

well if iwas hosting a game server give me maybe 1 or 2 to each game in cases of games like minecraft and 2 cores for system/background task to share

[solar moat]

@upper abyss WAHT CPUS and what servers and what I/O you need

[tidal geyser]

Too hard to answer

[molten patrol]

should i be concern that spotify took 5.5gb ram

[tidal geyser]

No

[random gyro]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUK__yGXmds

holy shit

[molten patrol]

🙏sounds not normal tbh

[tidal geyser]

No shit

I would imagine it has loads of RCE aka if you connect it to the Internet it does the same thing

[magic basalt]

@tidal geyser sim need advice

Is it viable to put the fan on the left?

I dont wanna block my ram because yk it looks good 😂😂

[steel umbra]

it will explode

[magic basalt]

U serious? 😂