tech-chat-1

[quasi field]

Steam deck went from this to this

Pretty cool, love right to repair

[haughty compass]

Is this what I'm looking for

Is that too new?

Um I have a soldering iron but I've been too scared to use it 😭

[left dove]

wayyyyy too new

[haughty compass]

Rip

I haven't used this thing since I think the pandemic

I probably updated it then 😭

[left dove]

you could still probably get away with rgh3 but idk when it comes to the newer dashboards

thats a search-on-your-own thing, I'm not getting paid

[haughty compass]

Alr

[haughty compass]

So just basically a waiting game?

Also the old hard drive on this thing like died. If the replacement I ordered happened to be on a newer version console before, would it update my system?

[left dove]

I don't remember if the 360 will reformat blank drives as xntfs or whatever it is that xbox uses for a file system

you might have to use a software on your pc to format it to xbox-specific and then put it in the consol

[haughty compass]

Hm I see

[left dove]

but like I said, newer dashboards I don't have much memory in, so ymmv

so it could just be "oh, new blank drive, can I use it for xbox things?"

[frail delta]

You have just ruined the web browser

They should be content agnostic

[haughty compass]

Cus I know it will retain some data cus I've seen a YouTuber buy different hard drives and test them on a Xbox 360 to see what profiles n stuff was left by the previous owners

Just not sure if that also includes updates

[lime bone]

Whats the best software for an all-ssd storage server?

Dont care if its free or not

[haughty compass]

One last thing before I go. Is this noise normal for an Xbox 360 (no disc inserted) or should I open it up and clean it?

[left dove]

old fan bearings, I'd see about replacing the fans if you open it up to clean it

[haughty compass]

Tysm for the help

[left dove]

i think they'r elike 80mm or something

dont quote me on that

[haughty compass]

Alr I'll do some more research l8r today

[frail delta]

https://www.weka.io

“Request a quote”

[left dove]

lmao

isnt weka like, $80k

[frail delta]

Likely more depending on the license

[left dove]

how u doin topdork

[haughty compass]

80...k...?

[left dove]

yeah enterprise shit is expensive

you know that sutpid million dollar pc that ltt has?

[haughty compass]

Mhm

[lime bone]

I saw that, but thats a bit too expensive 😂

[haughty compass]

Million dollar question... Did it cost them.... A million dollars?

[left dove]

half of that money is just on the load engine (literally just something to use all the drives at once)

moving massive amounts of data around really fast is expensive for the infra

[haughty compass]

Bruh

[left dove]

yeah and that "load engine" is like, 8 nvidia datacenter gpus running a fucking mars lander landing physics simulation

[lime bone]

• I think thats a little overkill for the price and use case

[frail delta]

Well, you didn’t say your budget or use case, so I gave you the “best”

[left dove]

Specificities help, folks

[frail delta]

https://stackoverflow.com/help/how-to-ask

[frail delta]

I need to review this more often

[haughty compass]

My basement is full of lost hopes and dreams

[lime bone]

Thanks hahaha

[haughty compass]

(just old tech I don't use anymore or DIYs that were left half baked years ago)

[gloomy sleet]

same

[lime bone]

No its just for a home storage server for media streaming, general files and for storing old videos

[gloomy sleet]

except it’s my shed

[haughty compass]

Real

[gloomy sleet]

i might move into my shed and build a racing sim there

[frail delta]

TrueNAS

[left dove]

😂

[haughty compass]

Sounds dope

[left dove]

why are you going all flash for truenas lmao

[gloomy sleet]

i need like 3 50” tvs though

[frail delta]

Hard drives suck

[lime bone]

Thank you! Unraid is prob overkill too right?

[haughty compass]

Just sound proof it and add sum surround sound speaks + ultra ultra wide monitor 🤫

[gloomy sleet]

nah i’ll add wind sim

[haughty compass]

Just a couple bands... Nothing much....

[left dove]

yeah but a raidz5 of 3.5"s can saturate 2.5g so easily

[gloomy sleet]

just face a fan at you

[mellow cairn]

There is no "best"

[frail delta]

Unraid doesn’t work well with all flash, its built for hard drives, and seems to be getting a bit… dated

[left dove]

HI BOBBY

[haughty compass]

Bro I'm imagining one of those industrial fans just blowing at 200mph

[gloomy sleet]

3 50” tvs <£100 used rig about £80 diy and i already have everything else

[mellow cairn]

Unraid is garbage

[lime bone]

👍

[frail delta]

No hard drives allowed in my house thank you very much

[gloomy sleet]

i was thinking one of those 200mm fans

[mellow cairn]

Pffff.

[haughty compass]

Ahh I see

[left dove]

yeah but i wanna fill my stupid old antec box with hard drives

[gloomy sleet]

200mm fan at 1000~rpm

[haughty compass]

That's y'know more reasonable than what I was thinking 🤭

[mellow cairn]

Storage + SSD cache. Fuck yes

[gloomy sleet]

moves a lot more air and is a lot more adjustable

[lime bone]

The reason Im choosing SSDs over hdds is cuz I want them to last longer, be faster and being more compact

[frail delta]

Proud to say I do not own a single hard drive

[mellow cairn]

Data density is better in hard drives

[left dove]

hard drives can be fucking 32tb

like, thats insane

[gloomy sleet]

i need a 32tb hdd

[haughty compass]

Are u gonna place it like above or to the side

[haughty compass]

32??????

[lime bone]

I have an old one from my parents where some stuff is stored one, which is broken so that isnt great

[left dove]

wd red goes up to 28tb or something

[gloomy sleet]

under my monitors so facing my face/neck

[haughty compass]

Ooohh

[gloomy sleet]

200mm fans so they’ll hit my entire body

[frail delta]

There is only like 12tb, but still! No hard drives!

[mellow cairn]

Kek, I still have a micro server with 4 3tb reds in it (but it's not even plugged in)

[left dove]

get a small tower fan and lay it on its side, more compact and much more air volume

[gloomy sleet]

otherwise the idea is literally just an alu profile rig

[left dove]

and quieter, its a giant roating fan cylinder

[haughty compass]

Even though 200mm fans are huge, r u gonna have multiple or just 1? Gotta make it feel like u got all the windows down and the air hitting u

[gloomy sleet]

3 one under each tv

[left dove]

dinky.

[frail delta]

Last year leader was basically giving away 1tb sata ssds so I stocked up lol

[haughty compass]

Ooh

[gloomy sleet]

all this and i’ll still be mid pack against people on 720p 24” monitors and using 20 year old ps2 controllers

[haughty compass]

🤫 don't think about it too much... You're in it for the experience

[gloomy sleet]

or this guy i know using HOMEMADE pedals

[haughty compass]

How do you home make pedals?

[left dove]

thats god punishing you for lying about writing a thesis on quantum physics

[haughty compass]

Like cardboard? Or do they have like a saw and cut metal

[gloomy sleet]

the brake has a 120kg load cell

[gloomy sleet]

errrmm actually it’s quantum mechanics

[left dove]

https://tenor.com/view/sassy-who-the-hell-cares-peter-family-guy-gif-5547786

[haughty compass]

[left dove]

Liars dont get to make corrections!!

[haughty compass]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-war-helmet-shark-meme-gif-8983249853261281087

[frail delta]

Does anyone else have like 12 frozen bananas saved for banana bread that will never happen?

[left dove]

I used to

[mellow cairn]

Narrator: he would not, in fact, make banana bread

[left dove]

why does estrogen make me such a fucking sap for disney movies

[gleaming rose]

no

[frail delta]

What, do you throw the bananas in the green waste?

[gleaming rose]

no I don't eat bananas

[left dove]

Heathen

enjoy your leg cramps

[frail delta]

No I get that

Bananas can have a gross texture

[gleaming rose]

my legs are fine

[ashen hedge]

IGN is so unserious this is too funny

[stone gazelle]

so glad i got a 4070 ti super instead of waiting for 50-series 🙏

[ashen hedge]

Guys there’s no
Apple watch logo in the gta 6 trailer 😔

[golden sage]

@sinful cobalt looks like they dropped the price further

[sinful cobalt]

yea the distributor starting coming to their senses

but cdl which does gigabyte hasnt at all

[abstract wigeon]

sn580 alternative?

[stone gazelle]

sn850x?

[true stirrup]

SN770, MP44L, MP33 pro, NM760, NM780, SN5000

[sinful cobalt]

fuck

[true stirrup]

Not even that bad

[distant frigate]

https://www.reddit.com/r/FiberOptics/s/SSSqK47XAa

[gilded harness]

ordered this vega 56 for 60 bucks

god bless

[grim pasture]

Are the youtube benchmakrs very good?

[cursive storm]

how do u open mounted iso files on fedora kde, i mounted it and its not appearing on the side panel

[grim pasture]

I don't know.

[cursive storm]

then why did u reply

[grim pasture]

I don't know.

[rigid fjord]

some are ideally hardware unboxed, gamersnexus, or jayztwocents

[grim pasture]

Can you rephrase that, are they good or not?

[glacial tulip]

why’s it idle

[rigid fjord]

the 3 i mentioned are, there's also hardware canucks

[grim pasture]

is the asus a620M pro RS good?

[gilded harness]

oh that 60 bucks goes to uhhh

unsupported gpu but whatever

better than the 580

[rigid fjord]

rx 580's still get the same update there

[rigid fjord]

it's ok but you'd want to go for the b650 version

[plucky laurel]

Hi are there any people that are good at linux and docker containers? I would like some help knowing if an idea that I have would work?.

[grim pasture]

yeah but its 50 bucks cheaper

[hybrid zinc]

gays nothing phone 3a or samsung A36? and why?

[tidal geyser]

Wat

[tidal geyser]

Vega 56 still awesome

[gilded harness]

I love vega gpus

[rigid fjord]

tbf, a620's shouldn't be touched unless that's the only option you have got

[hybrid zinc]

peliz

[plucky laurel]

dont put gays infront of anything

[sinful cobalt]

whatever u prefer/cheaper

im gonna assume its for basic tasks and everyday use

not for gaming

[boreal vine]

can we just nuke reddit

some of the subs there are just absolute batshit crazy

[sinful cobalt]

average reddit/4chan/telegram group story (this is a fictional manga but lets pretend its fr)

[upper abyss]

guys what food can i get ready to eat that aint unhealthy as hell °-°

[clear canyon]

Water

[upper abyss]

but im hungy

[clear canyon]

Water with bread

[upper abyss]

bred

[clear canyon]

You're gonna experience the peasant meal

[upper abyss]

might get a bun (the small bread thing)

[clear canyon]

And as a result, you will have water sourced from a lead rich water supply

[upper abyss]

watafak

[clear canyon]

And stale bread

[sinful cobalt]

coffee with bread
choco with bread

[clear canyon]

Prepare your bunghole for dysentery

[grave oracle]

Doing a massive Pc upgrade, i'm replacing a lot of my old components that were part of my prebuilt (changing mobo, cpu, ram) where as now it will be completely overhauled besides fan, case, and one of my SSds (C). Is there a good tutorial you guys recommend i follow for switching all of my data from one computer to the next? i'm sure its not as simple as just moving the SSDs over

I also don't mind just bringing everything over to my other SSD if that works

[true stirrup]

You can move the SSD over but windows can give you issues after that
Best way is to backup all your important data on that SSD to a different drive and reinstall windows

[grave oracle]

OKay, do I have to worry about licensing at all?

[true stirrup]

Did you buy windows on the current drive?

[grave oracle]

it came preinstalled on the prebult

[true stirrup]

Oh yeah it's a prebuild
Did you connect your Microsoft account to windows?

[grave oracle]

not explcitly, i'll look into that. My last job was at a software company and the licenses were tied to physics components such as the drive, mobo, os. So i'm curious to see if windows behaves the same

[true stirrup]

With prebuilds either windows is either hardware locked or if the build uses non OEM parts and let's you connect the Microsoft account to windows during setup then it's transferable

[hidden frigate]

Hi! Looking at buying a laptop that's primarily going to be used for Video Editing (davinci resolve) and basic web browsing stuff.

What specs could I get away with for a use case like that? Assuming that i'm going to have to look at gaming laptops to get a GPU that's gonna do good at video editing? Like I see a laptop with an RTX 3050 and a Ryzen 5 7535HS. Is that at all resonable?

[grave oracle]

it is connected to windows

[tidal geyser]

no windows is connected to your wall

[true stirrup]

Could be transferable then

[latent pasture]

1. is that 3050 4 or 6gb? if its the 4gb one then can u check the prices of rtx 2050 laptops bc its exactly the same specs as 3050 4gb (yes despite the name) but u might find them cheaper
2. how much more expensive is the cheapest 4050 or 3060 laptop?

[tidal geyser]

ngl i would go 4050 or 4060 all day over a 3050

[hidden frigate]

Found 2 laptops on sale. One for 800 USD~ with a 3050 4GB and a Ryzen 5 7535HS, and then there's another one for $200 more with a 4060 8GB and a Ryzen 5 7535HS

Operating in norwegian pricing, so shit is just more expensive here

[tidal geyser]

especially for what he wants to do

[tidal geyser]

NORSSSSSSSK

[hidden frigate]

oh yes

[tidal geyser]

du kan alltid gå brukt

[latent pasture]

ye if ur ok with 3050 perf ur ok with 2050 perf bc its literally the same specs
either that or you push to 4050/3060/4060

either u go cheap or u go big

highly preferably go big bc big videos want more vram

[tidal geyser]

https://www.finn.no/recommerce/forsale/item/405421226?ci=2

[hidden frigate]

oooo nice

[tidal geyser]

7840hs and 4060 for 8k nok

[latent pasture]

nokron

nokstela

[tidal geyser]

nok er nok

https://tenor.com/view/meanwhile-norway-moose-discord-funny-gif-20579994

[candid bolt]

What's the best 850 watt psu?

[true stirrup]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/2/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/htmlview?pli=1#

[hidden frigate]

For kontekst så har jeg sett på disse to laptopene. https://www.power.no/data-og-tilbehoer/pc-og-mac/baerbar-pc/msi-thin-a15-b7vf-073neu-156-baerbar-pc/p-3454038/

https://www.komplett.no/product/1306655/gaming/gaming-pc/gaming-laptop/asus-tuf-gaming-a15-156-fhd-144-hz?queryid=01c6b0ca9640d69df5e5670ad745310d&sort=None#

Men den på finn såg ganske nice ut også

[kindred drift]

Is the 3700x3d a big upgrade from the 3700x?

For gaming

[true stirrup]

You mean 5700x3D?

[kindred drift]

Probably

Will that be comparable with my motherboard? I have a 3700x right now

[latent gull]

We love cross posting

[kindred drift]

What’s that

[hidden frigate]

posting the same message in multiple channels

[true stirrup]

Yes it will be compatible

[hidden frigate]

both the 5700x3d and 3700x use the same socket so yeah all good there

[kindred drift]

Is that a pretty big gaming upgrade?

[tidal geyser]

you can use a motherboard from 2016 with a cpu from 2024

[hidden frigate]

what GPU do you have? and what games do you play

[tidal geyser]

what gpu and res?

[tidal geyser]

stay far far far away from MSI

[kindred drift]

2070 super and I play r6 and Tarkov mostly

[tidal geyser]

you should be getting pretty usable fps

[kindred drift]

I am

[hidden frigate]

why do you want to upgrade?

[kindred drift]

I want better fps in tarkov

[tidal geyser]

anyways just go am5

[kindred drift]

Every other game runs super smooth

[tidal geyser]

the 5700X3D costs so much now to the point its more worth it to go onto a new platform

https://tenor.com/view/fish-artillery-vistaprint-fish-cannon-fish-punch-gif-21738904

[kindred drift]

So it would be better to get a new motherboard and then it would allow me to upgrade my cpu more

[hidden frigate]

correct

[winged forum]

Genius or Cringe?

[tidal geyser]

and cpu and ram

[tidal geyser]

so how it works?

[kindred drift]

I have 32 gigs of ddr 4

[tidal geyser]

too bad

[winged forum]

so genius?

[kindred drift]

What?

[tidal geyser]

why not just use what is already there

[tidal geyser]

ddr4 does not work on any good cpus

[winged forum]

no fan spin at low temp, I don't have computer case

[tidal geyser]

yeah does it not already have fan stop

[winged forum]

default low value is 25% I think

[tidal geyser]

most modern even ok cards have it

[latent pasture]

how much does any 5700x3d or 5800x3d cost vs 7600+b650+cheapest ddr5 6000cl30

[winged forum]

2080 ti so not that modern

[kindred drift]

So what I’m gathering here is I would be way better off doing a much larger upgrade that would probably cost more but give me a way bigger boost

[clear palm]

Correct, because the 5700X3D cost is already pretty high and would be the very best you could ever get on your current motherboard platform

[hidden frigate]

@tidal geyser would you say this is overkill? It's probably going to be mostly used as a family laptop for my mom to watch videos on and stuff, but my dad just bought a brand new gopro and wants to edit his fishing videos on it so I guess it's not too too unrealistic? https://www.power.no/data-og-tilbehoer/pc-og-mac/baerbar-pc/msi-thin-a15-b7vf-073neu-156-baerbar-pc/p-3454038/

[kindred drift]

What parts would yall recommend instead

[shy olive]

I wonder if PC parts will get so expensive one day that we would have to sell body parts just for the sake of a new cable

[winged forum]

just work some overtime

[oak token]

YOU,
Name some low end free games that are worth playing during my short lifspan on this godforsaken world we call earth.

[winged forum]

counter strike 2

[oak token]

TOO competative

also i played cs 1.6 a little too much

I suffer from PTSD now

[latent pasture]

5700x3d will alr get you on ryzen 7000 non x3d level but u keep ur mobo and ram
bruh why arent u replying when were asking how much it actually costs for each option
how could u have already decided on what to do without mentioning the cost even once

[tidal geyser]

well if you are ok with not using the screen as in it falls of then yeah go msi also worse performance then what its meant to have due to horrible cooling

[hidden frigate]

the screen falls off?

[upper abyss]

just me or fsr 3 look kinda ass

[hidden frigate]

HOw about this? Seems like a direct upgrade no? https://www.elkjop.no/product/gaming/gaming-pc/barbar-gaming-pc/acer-nitro-v16-r5-8h161tb4060165hz-16-barbar-gaming-pc/767190

and it's 16:10

[latent pasture]

u gonna spend some budget on a monitor cuz u are not video editing anything professional on this shit
or maybe ur fine with that? if its just hobby/basic

but yeah its the cheapest 4060 but a wide margin unless u go used

[azure topaz]

me and another it bro just clocked in at the same time we cant be stopped

[lethal bay]

Floppa discovers what a work schedule is

[hidden frigate]

It'll be hobby editing for sure. Probs won't be doing any color grading or anything like that

[azure topaz]

we do NOT work at the same time

hes supposed to clock in like 2 hours before me

[hidden frigate]

My dad just bought a gopro like 2 days ago and he wants to film himself fishing on his fishing trips

[latent pasture]

ye id take it imo

[shrewd oracle]

Im assuming the release date for the monitor could be June they revealed its full specs in April so its June or July I think

[bronze summit]

So he's late?

[upper abyss]

guys do i gotta use a cable from the fan hub or can i just connect one of the fans to the mobo?

[grizzled frost]

either is fine

[bronze summit]

He says with reassurance

[plucky laurel]

any ideas on why all of the traffic is going through 172.20.0.1

[robust trail]

are you running this in docker?

[plucky laurel]

yes

[robust trail]

that's the docker network IP

internal network

[plucky laurel]

so how are the other ip adreses comming through with some

[robust trail]

docker runs its own network under your host network, that is docker's network communicating with the container

[plucky laurel]

any way to still run it in a docker container but be able to see where all the queres are comming from?

[robust trail]

there's a network connection to your host's network to allow ingress and egress of traffic, those IP addresses are recorded

if you run docker ps -a you'll see a network container running

that manages ingress and egress

[plucky laurel]

I trying to see what devices are requesting what and make it so that I can block specific things on one device, any way to do this while still being in a docker container?

[distant frigate]

4G

5G

Same spot

[robust trail]

Yes, pihole can do that, it will operate the same as if it was running bare metal

[plucky laurel]

How would I do that?

[robust trail]

You'll need to identify the requests you want to block and block them

[plucky laurel]

but that would block them on all devices

[robust trail]

https://docs.pi-hole.net/ - this contains all the information you'll need

[plucky laurel]

thanks

[robust trail]

you want to block requests from a source and target, that's more advanced than blacklisting but you can do it

[plucky laurel]

I will try

[delicate zodiac]

what gpu and cpu combo has identical performance as ps5?

[plucky laurel]

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti / RTX 4060 Ti

Intel Core i5-12400 / i5-13400

[iron glen]

why mimic when you can do better?

[true stirrup]

Those two GPUs are quite different in performance

[crimson crag]

there is no exact equivalent

[robust trail]

the closest you'll get is 3060 and a 5600x

[crimson crag]

gets ridiculously dicey when you consider they aren't running the same games, same OS or even remotely standard hardware

you can't compare them

though if you really want, a point of reference often used is an rx6700

[iron glen]

hi MD

[true stirrup]

hi brownie

[delicate zodiac]

i just wanted to make sure that i can run gta 6 in future with my 6750 xt, 5700x and the reason i was asking about ps5 is because gta 6 trailer 2 was recorded on ps5

when they release it they are gonna 100% push on frame gen because they are not gonna optimalize it that good

[iron glen]

isnt the console version optimized for console and the pc version a lot more customizable?

[crimson crag]

as if that's a proper point of reference, seeing as it was likely upscaled due to notable artifacting

[delicate zodiac]

just asking roughly

[crimson crag]

you're likely to swap something by the time 2028 rolls around

[true stirrup]

If you are worried about being just able to play it then you shouldn't be
It will probably run just not at the best settings

[thorn pewter]

My pentium 4 could prob run gta6 easily lol

[iron glen]

guessing gta6 won't be very cpu heavy so this could probably run it, just not very well
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MnCmJn

[supple mist]

5090 would pair better with that cpu trust me bro

[iron glen]

too lazy to change it, make your own list

[thorn pewter]

Honestly

At like 16k it might actually not be bad lmao

Or slightly better to run, 8k

[grizzled frost]

4x better to run

[thorn pewter]

Yeah, the cpu won’t even matter

I bet the Intel 4004 would preform the same xd

[azure topaz]

yes

[delicate zodiac]

oh ok also i am playing on 1080p so medium settings would be enough for me

[true stirrup]

It will run

[delicate zodiac]

does anybody know roughly how many GB will gta 6 have on pc?

[thorn pewter]

I would like to see if a 1650 mobile could run it, am trying to snag a msi laptop with one for 20 bucks🙏

[grizzled frost]

120-150GB

[delicate zodiac]

no way

lower than i expected

i expected like 220GB+

[grizzled frost]

nearly double gtaV

[thorn pewter]

That’s about the same as rd2

[grizzled frost]

gtaV sits around 98GB

[thorn pewter]

Right?

[delicate zodiac]

idk

[thorn pewter]

Am still surprised cp2077 is 70 gigs

[grizzled frost]

RDR2 is 119GB

[thorn pewter]

Oh really?

Yeah give or take ya

[delicate zodiac]

would lossless scaling help in rust with 5700x and 6750 xt? i dont think so so i am asking you before buying it

rockstar games stock after releasing gta 6 is gonna be crazy

[true stirrup]

The FPS will be higher but the quality will be lower

[latent pasture]

isnt rust infamously cpu dependent, lossless scaling helps with poor gpu

[hybrid yacht]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cMTtRIrJOk Is there actually GPU drivers for jasper lake based systems that run on windows 7

[latent pasture]

unless u mean the frame gen part?

[grizzled frost]

why are you on windows7?

[sleek ibex]

Jasper lake is 12 years newer than Windows 7

I.... I...

[delicate zodiac]

i am looking at screenshots from gta 6 on official website i am so mad that they dont use 1:1 irl cars with real brands because these images would look infinity times better with irl cars

[dapper light]

GTA never ever used real cars

Because car licenses are stupid

[delicate zodiac]

ye but why gta 6 is gonna make records it is gonna to crush everything and they have the budget

[dapper light]

Also one of the reasons FH4 got nuked off steam

And not many people care if it's real or not

[true stirrup]

License hell

[delicate zodiac]

i dont think so because the second one looks ass at least if it would have tail lights like old chargers

[sleek ibex]

And on top of that, W10 is in hospice lucid, and is staring dead straight at the grim reaper

[dapper light]

Let's be real dude, most gta audience are probably looking at the "human subjects" rather than a fkn taillight

[delicate zodiac]

you are right cars are not things that you use not that often

[random gyro]

Should i do expo tweaked in bios?

[delicate zodiac]

not gonna lie that f150 on start of that second trailer looks insane but there are gonna be ass cars

[tidal geyser]

yea?`its msi

[tidal geyser]

looks usable

[robust trail]

I've never understood the appeal of GTA but that's just me. It seems like the same shit over and over... like a thirsty version of Diablo

[true stirrup]

Just run the profile 1 unless you want to go into the ram tuning rabbit hole

[random gyro]

So expo 1?

[true stirrup]

Correct

[tidal geyser]

Ding ding ding

[random gyro]

Thx 🙂

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-car-accident-the-fall-the-kitty-gif-8721145737079531731

[random gyro]

Would you recommend any other bios settings?

[tidal geyser]

Na

[random gyro]

Aightie

Im having a hard time understanding how my high end pc gets me only 100fps in poe2

So im looking for the error xD

[true stirrup]

PBO

And resizable bar if you have an Nvidia GPU

[sinful cobalt]

yipee

[random gyro]

PBO wont make the cpu hotter right?

[sinful cobalt]

pbo if u enable it lets the gpu draw more power to boost its clock what do u think

[random gyro]

oh ok xd

[true stirrup]

No PBO makes the CPU boost

[random gyro]

well google says no, the way you say it says yes

[true stirrup]

Yes it will but if you have a semi decent cooler you will be more than fine

[random gyro]

okay !

[sinful cobalt]

just that? I thought it would draw more power to reach the boost

[rigid fjord]

depends on your settings for pbo, but with the correct tuning, it can run cooler while boosting higher

[rigid fjord]

or amd gpu

[bronze summit]

Rauko

I've heard everything, I'm sorry LG did that to you

No one deserves to be abused like that

[tidal geyser]

for that to even make sense you would need it in 8k

anyways yes horrible, there are games now that are what like 300GB alone

[whole garden]

Who knows anymore.

[candid bolt]

Is this physics score good for a used 7800x3d?

[tidal geyser]

xd

[odd marsh]

dawg what

[bronze summit]

CSAM is not a joke, if it's not obvious enough to some idiots

[candid bolt]

??

[odd marsh]

Dude might be projecting

[sleek ibex]

Which server is this?

[tidal geyser]

google.com

[sinful cobalt]

goddamn asus and windows update are knocking on my door

[sleek fern]

right after I buy a 3080 Ti for 415, a 3080 for 284 pops up

timing

[tidal geyser]

also as long as its the cpu it is the performance difference is like 5-10% at max

[whole garden]

tell them to fuck off

[tidal geyser]

and now with solder based TIM it matters even less

[sinful cobalt]

fk these updates bruh'

[alpine heron]

Picked up a thermalright phantom spirit CPU cooler, its making a heck of a racket. Any suggestions?

[tidal geyser]

lower the fan speed, what are the temps

[alpine heron]

For now defaults

[tidal geyser]

install hwinfo and open it in sensor only

[random gyro]

Random techtoker server

[tidal geyser]

ztt?

[random gyro]

Surprisingly no

[tidal geyser]

ttz

[sleek ibex]

Why am I not surprised

[tidal geyser]

na not real

[sleek ibex]

[tidal geyser]

its probs the same kinda guy doing what he claims other people do, or just somebody who is too poor to affor anything better themselves

[sinful cobalt]

balls

[thorn pewter]

balls

[tidal geyser]

here are mine

thinking about it nah i got em but just wanted to make a joke like i sent em but it never showed up

anyways cat cheese

[thorn pewter]

too small

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-challenge-cat-fall-off-table-taking-a-tumble-cheese-on-head-gif-14154057

[sinful cobalt]

54w and it jumps to 82c

[tidal geyser]

yes

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-challenge-cat-fall-off-table-taking-a-tumble-cheese-on-head-gif-14154057

[gleaming rose]

yes she fucking did??? hello???

[cosmic bluff]

So I have a question regarding peripherals

My friend wants to get a new mouse and he has 100-150 dollar budget he wants to know what's the best mouse on the market for that price

[crude shoal]

I have an ASRock board. Should I update the bios immediately?

[latent pasture]

arent the common good mice like $40 lol
the logitec g50something

[bronze summit]

Yes outdated ASRock boards explodes in 24 hours when it comes obsolete it's called the BIOS Boomback System

[latent pasture]

how tf can u spend $100-150 on a mouse

even the fancy ergo mice with gamer buttons and sensors dont get that high

[crude shoal]

Lol I just heard that ASRock boards are killing 9800x3Ds

[cosmic bluff]

Lol his words not mine

[bronze summit]

20$ are the disposables (1-2 months)
40$ are the Good Wireds (9 months)
60$ are Entry Level "Gamer"
90$ are Solid Mid Range Gamer Mice
110$ is basically eSports Standard
120-150$ is Endgame Material
200$ is Finalmouse (shit)

[ebon marlin]

https://stupidpenisx.com/9550pro/status/1920106682098819302?t=ib9v7D0hKpTgc0KTf50Jiw&s=19

HXL (@[e-mail])

Simulate NS2 T239 performance

vxTwitter / fixvx · May 7, 2025, 1:21 PM

[latent pasture]

stuff like g502 last 9 months?

[bronze summit]

Nah the G502 is the G502

You can't really define or understand the longevity of that mouse

[latent pasture]

is there even anything to improve in mice
its not like human hands evolve that fast

[cosmic bluff]

His exact words were that he can "splurge on it"

[latent pasture]

mass produce g502 into $5 please

[bronze summit]

Since 2024 it has come to a standstill

I personally just use a 70$ mouse, it's not bad and its been working fine for me but people have different tastes

[cosmic bluff]

I just want to know what the good market options are

[bronze summit]

I think this is more of an r/MouseReview Discord Server thing

But what are you personally going for?

[latent pasture]

become normie bot and buy them g502 for 40-50/ 35 on sale then pocket the rest for urself

[cosmic bluff]

I'll ask him more details

[bronze summit]

The thing with mice is

It's mainly a you thing, it's not like PC building where the right parts is the right choice

God knows there's gonna be idiots that will just go "I heard your advice, but I'm still going for this overpriced mouse because I FEEL LIKE IT"

[crude shoal]

I'm box testing my PC with a 9800x3D inside. I can safely use it without a GPU for booting to bios, right?

[latent gull]

Mx vertical superiority

[cosmic bluff]

It's not for me so I'll ask him what his preference is

[bronze summit]

Should be yea

[latent pasture]

one on the right cost $2.5 from 2018 and still works fine

i bring the wireless one in trips

[cosmic bluff]

That sounds like a absolute steal

[cosmic bluff]

Oh god they were looking were indeed looking at a expensive mouse

[bronze summit]

What is it

[cosmic bluff]

Deathadder v3 pro is what he said

Never heard of that one before

[bronze summit]

Ask him how long he's planning on using it before he throws it away

[cosmic bluff]

So basically they're looking for a wireless gaming mouse since he mainly plays fps games

[bronze summit]

Is he used to the Deathadder shape or is he just going because some CS pros use it?

[steel umbra]

verti mouse

[cosmic bluff]

And he's not happy with Logitech mouse because they keep breaking

[bronze summit]

Breaking in what context

[inner veldt]

Fractal north mesh or glass?

[steel umbra]

doesn’t survive a throw at the wall

[tidal geyser]

i went with the superlight since due to that

[cosmic bluff]

The shape he said it's comfortable to him since he tried

[inner veldt]

Hello sim

[tidal geyser]

up to you

[inner veldt]

Would it effect airflow?

[steel umbra]

mesh

[tidal geyser]

no shit

[steel umbra]

ofc

[tidal geyser]

but the difference of going glass will not change performance

[bronze summit]

It's 120, if he wants to wait and stick with a Deathadder Essential for a while, prime day is coming and might lower the Deathadder price

[inner veldt]

I have no rgb anyways

[bronze summit]

But if he wants it now, then go get it

Although

[steel umbra]

if you’re indecisive about glass or mesh i’d go mesh

[bronze summit]

There is a cooler mouse, it's not the same shape as a Deathadder but it's pretty cool and a bit cheaper

[inner veldt]

I would go too

[tidal geyser]

cant you just change it later anyways

[inner veldt]

I have noctua nh d15 g2 gift from my friend

[tidal geyser]

rich friends

[inner veldt]

Would use that

[bronze summit]

What a generous friend

[cosmic bluff]

What's it's name

[inner veldt]

And showing it is not ideal i guess lol

[bronze summit]

Teevolution Terra

[steel umbra]

gotta show you’re rich boi to afford $$$$ air cooler

[tidal geyser]

the g2 is the best air cooler money can buy

[steel umbra]

best normal air cooler*

[tidal geyser]

no

[bronze summit]

It's a Logitech G403, but the good part about it is: it's not made by Logitech

[tidal geyser]

even the ice giant is pretty trash after doing some research

[steel umbra]

nukes you

[wraith bone]

yea its a solid cooler , pair it with thermalright contact frame and its even better

[steel umbra]

yeah not the ice giant

[tidal geyser]

well you would be getting a worse cpu then

[tawdry wolf]

Is there anyone here that has a use for a gtx 1650 4gb card? I’m pretty sure that’s what is. I just built a new computer and don’t have a use for it. If it can find a good home whoever wants it can have it for the cost of shipping.

[inner veldt]

[tidal geyser]

if you have the money for a g2 you have the money for a good cpu

[inner veldt]

I have 9800X3D

[wraith bone]

wont make sense to put g2 on a low end

[tidal geyser]

first gpu i had was a 1650

[inner veldt]

I sold my liquid cooler

[tidal geyser]

well yeah so why did you talk about a contact frame

[inner veldt]

Because liquid is shitty

[wraith bone]

but the case needs to be well ventilated too

[bronze summit]

My first GPU was a 4070 super , but if we're counting stolen it's a 970

[inner veldt]

Mine was ati x1500

[tawdry wolf]

If there’s someone that can use it I’m willing to send it to them before just throwing it away

[tidal geyser]

if you are in Norway then that could be fun

[wraith bone]

coz it decreases temps on a high end cpu like the i7 13700k , etc by 5-6 C more

[tidal geyser]

that is not high end

more like dead end

[strong grove]

Copped for 480 dollars

[tidal geyser]

msrp

[bronze summit]

Reddit star for you

[upper abyss]

yo chat

[bronze summit]

I'm personally going to get a 7800X3D then go for a 6090

[inner veldt]

Soooooo mesh is the way to go i guess

[strong grove]

Bro is buying an FGU

[inner veldt]

[winter lantern]

When i make a call about the warranty for my gpu Should I impersonate the original owner?

Its asus

[elder quarry]

hello

[tawdry wolf]

I guess this discord is just crazy with responses. I’m just trying to help someone who might have a use for this card.

[tidal geyser]

you never answered me

[winter lantern]

My friend might need it

How much we paying for it

[tidal geyser]

shipping

[winter lantern]

Now where do you live (important for shipping)

[tawdry wolf]

I assume $10 for shipping? I don’t know what it costs these days

[winter lantern]

Probably

[tidal geyser]

what country are you in

[tawdry wolf]

Us

[tidal geyser]

sad

[winter lantern]

State?

[tawdry wolf]

Michigan

[winter lantern]

Mm

[tawdry wolf]

Just trying to help someone out. I have no use for it

[steel umbra]

@tidal geyser silentmax titan, if you put some fans on it, maybe alpenfohn olymp also big cpu cooler but i don't think that one is good enough to match the d5 g2

[quiet gazelle]

Hello, which one is the best please? I need 2x32gb
https://www.amazon.fr/Crucial-CT2K16G4SFRA32A-Mémoire-dordinateur-Portable/dp/B07ZLCVKPV
https://www.amazon.fr/Corsair-Vengeance-SODIMM-2x16-DDR4/dp/B09DTG3BD7

[steel umbra]

Yeah the silentmax i would bet on that one

[distant frigate]

mmWave moment

[winter lantern]

What payment u use

[tawdry wolf]

I don’t know. PayPal or whatever. I’m just looking for a home for this thing instead of throwing it away.

[winter lantern]

I mean you could probably sell it on marketplace for 30$

[tawdry wolf]

Not worth the headache if there’s someone that can use it.

[winter lantern]

This is my current setup

[hybrid zinc]

I would like to game roblox sometimes and I like modding in phones and daily use i guess
I also prefer build quality (like its firm and wont break if dropped)

[tawdry wolf]

Basically I’m asking if anyone wants this card for free (cost of shipping) otherwise I’ll just throw it in recycling

[winter lantern]

Ig ill take it let's go to dms

[gloomy sleet]

ill take it for free

[steel umbra]

A 2 kilo cooler, has 1 less heatpipe than g2 but compensates with the sole coverage of aluminum fins

[bronze summit]

I can't wait to go to an airport with this in my bag

[winter lantern]

Its free with shipping

[arctic tapir]

These smart rings are getting more advanced

[abstract wigeon]

wait that’s a cpu cooler?? how does it mount

[gloomy sleet]

ok i’ll take it

[winter lantern]

I said ill take it first Lil bro

[gloomy sleet]

damn

[abstract wigeon]

international shipping big expensive

[gloomy sleet]

i need a gpu for my sim build

[abstract wigeon]

js looked up it would cost £100 to get it to the UK

[steel umbra]

Not normally, it mounts as a normal cooler but then you gotta add a lot of support bars around it

So it doesn't warp your motherboard

or something

[cosmic bluff]

Damn that's beefy

[abstract wigeon]

guessing it doesnt fit in normal cases

[latent pasture]

or its like the icegiant shit where it only works with the mobo lying down

[abstract wigeon]

send pic when attached

[frigid blade]

DAYUM

[abstract wigeon]

holy choke surely its getting nothing from the case fans

[steel umbra]

Yes the d15 g2 is the best "normal" and accesible cooler but this is better

[abstract wigeon]

is it not sucking up hot air from gpu?

whats the airflow direction

[steel umbra]

Yes

[steel umbra]

^

[abstract wigeon]

are temps great?

or just quiet

[steel umbra]

https://pc.sk/en/silentmaxx-titan-passively-145w?

Also don't forget the other large passive coolers that you can mod to be fan cooled

[abstract wigeon]

ugly beast

i wonder if it could passively cool a low end gpu

finally bring back passive gpu mods

[empty summit]

quick question my house doesnt have ac and in the summer it gets like 75-80F and its gonna be the first summer with my pc and i wanna make sure it can be cooled well so im thinking i should upgrade my case fans and my aio fans what are yall suggestion? i have always liked the ones that have the little screens in the middle and it shows ur temps.

[latent pasture]

broh didnt have to write allat to justify buying the overpriced lcd aios

[frigid blade]

digital temp sensors cost like $5

[iron glen]

can i put like an entire folder of files into virustotal and have it scan the entire folder and subfolders or does it not work like that

[steel umbra]

Kinda wish if it was actually buyable and if it had better fin density

[frigid blade]

if you zip it, maybe

[iron glen]

zip worked

[steel umbra]

Anyways, yes the d15 g2 is overall the best, that titan maxx and other giant or even larger passive coolers may perform better if you slap some fans on them

[graceful girder]

Asked a simple question and it overthought so much it couldn't deliver an answer

[true stirrup]

In what world is that an easy question

[graceful girder]

suppose i was asking too much huh

ill turn off deepthink

[true stirrup]

Try asking again

It sometimes just gets stuck and ends

[graceful girder]

success

[hallow jasper]

AI was a mistake.

[graceful girder]

not really into the word tho, ill look for one myself

Elysium, perfect

[true stirrup]

Agreed

[iron glen]

eh, kinda

[dawn tundra]

What you guys's thoughts on a webcam xp5 the website

[frigid blade]

Its not

Some of the applications are mistakes
Some arent

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10916499/#:~:text=AI is changing the way,outcomes%2C and managing population health.

[iron glen]

i'd say generative AI is kinda mid but the art is in the viewer's eyes

[frigid blade]

AI generated images are not art

Its laziness

[grizzled frost]

i hope sites start implementing that algorithm that makes art unreadable by AI

[latent pasture]

worked around by just taking a screenshot

[grizzled frost]

it changes some pixels here and there that are practically undetectable to humans, but throw off ai models training on it

[latent pasture]

that doesnt work sadle

[iron glen]

i remember asking chatgpt for a sketch of a koi fish and i got a square with a circle in it

[frigid blade]

It does though because it requires the people trying to scrape images to slow down the process

[grizzled frost]

ai models require massive quantities of data, anything that slows it down is a good thing

[frigid blade]

When you normally scrape an image, you get the HTML data, find the image URL in it, and download from it

To screen shot, it’s a looooooot longer

[grizzled frost]

plus iirc the software modifies the image itself, so taking a screenshot won’t reverse that

[frigid blade]

You have to find the top left and bottom right of the image to know where exactly to screenshot

It’s a lot of work because I’ve tried making my own web scrapers before

I’m sure the people making these scrapers are much better, but it’s not that easy

[grizzled frost]

some social media sites flag AI posts too, which is a good start

doesn’t do a whole lot, but better than nothing

[frigid blade]

A new way to stop AI from even taking screenshots is by moving around pixels but not showing the entire image, just changing pixels really fast to form an image in your head, but a screenshot looks like nothing

Since it’s only getting that single frame of random pixels

[grizzled frost]

like showing half the pixels for a given frame?

[iron glen]

its great for not getting your video taken down
i see so many videos of chromebooks getting set on fire labled as ai generated

[graceful girder]

it's just another tool
~a summary

how he use it and whether it's worth more than it gives us is up to us

[frigid blade]

Something like that, our brains can form the image because it’s refreshing so fast, but a screenshot doesn’t show much because it’s a single frame

I saw it used for a captcha like system

[tardy tulip]

The 8pin on a gpu is literally just 4 ground pins and 4 +12v pins correct?

[frigid blade]

Where there were letters and numbers, you can tell it’s moving but you can see them. If you screenshot them it’s not readable

[steel umbra]

Meh, i don't mind ai art aslong it does not mix with art created by humans, that's the issue imo, and also a lot of the ai training atleast at the beginning was used without the art autho's consent

[grizzled frost]

3 +12v, 3 grnd, 1 sense a, 1 sense b

[frigid blade]

I’m pretty sure 99% of ai generated images are made by gooners so that’s already a reason to not like them

[tidal geyser]

that is cpu

[steel umbra]

i think what should be regulated is you being able to filter out the ai content, not restrict ai from reading the art, that's pretty much not possible

[frigid blade]

The only thing I could potentially be ok with, is you drawing a template for ai, and the ai reimagines it

[tardy tulip]

Cool thats whay i thought but wasnt sure

[frigid blade]

That’s still not art, but I also don’t think it’s as bad

[iron glen]

hi sim

[tardy tulip]

Also for that mini pc i plan on building i substituted the vega 56 for an rx6600 i got used on ebay because it was cheap, faster and smaller than a vega 56 along with more power efficient

[frigid blade]

You’re building a mini pc?

[tardy tulip]

That being said im buying a dirtbike this paycheck so its gonna be backburnered

[tardy tulip]

Planning on it

[frigid blade]

Ah, you mean like, not the palm sized one

[tardy tulip]

Nah as compact as i can

[tidal geyser]

people keep combining one thing they hate about ai and say all ai is bad

[rare pendant]

Should I build this for 550 dollars
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qzw7gn

[frigid blade]

These are cool, saw a 4090 one that had great temps because they undervolted and overclocked, very similar performance

[frigid blade]

AI is cool, it’s very useful for coding or boilerplate code. But if you’re completely dependent on it and don’t understand what it’s writing, that’s not good

[tardy tulip]

Got an rx6600 powercolor hellhound for like 150 bucks
Its only barely longer than a mini atx mobo

[frigid blade]

Why building such a small pc?

[tardy tulip]

Boredom

[tidal geyser]

i also need to do that

[frigid blade]

Aren’t those mini cases really expensive?

[tardy tulip]

Im gonna custom fab mine

[tidal geyser]

o wait its you

o god no

[tardy tulip]

Its gonna be a monstrosity of my own design

[tidal geyser]

yes

[tardy tulip]

But its delayed rn because i wamted to buy another dirtbike first

[frigid blade]

I was gonna build my own for my server case. We have metal benders

but im too lazy

[tardy tulip]

I know a guy with a sheet metal break but i was gonna do most of it by hand

[frigid blade]

yah, a break, thats what we got

Once of these but longer

[steel umbra]

I really want to see companies giving you better options to filter out ai slop, but i don't agree to completely remove it, some sort of universal law that would prohibit ai art without consent if you google some images for example or atleast giving you the option to disable them, but yk it costs mone and time, i think one of the worst ai uses is when someone created a website for ai news posts and steals content from other publishers and reformats the wording without giving them any credit

[frigid blade]

Have you seen same.new?

You can clone any website to the pixel

[tardy tulip]

The one i used to use is from the 60's
Its got massive counterweights slung on tje back of the moving arm so you can bend up to an 8ftn sheet of 11gauge/1/8 steel

[frigid blade]

bruh

Im so glad it makes projects public by default 🤣

Its not bad at what it does tho

I used it to convert my hand written HTML, CSS, and JS into a next.js website

[tardy tulip]

This was it

[frigid blade]

Ah, we got a portable one

That looks heavy

[graceful girder]

5600X

[steel umbra]

Nop

[winter lantern]

My setup came with this 💀
https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/product/ups/pfc-sinewave/or2200pfcrt2u/

[tardy tulip]

Its forklift portable

[winter lantern]

Ts gonna be on for like 2 hours

If power goes out

[tardy tulip]

We usually used a skytrak 6042 telehandler to move em around

[winter lantern]

Its also 60lbs

[blazing onyx]

Only 60 lbs? Damn

[rare pendant]

Should I build this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6ZMT3w

[elder quarry]

why

[upper abyss]

guys

im crashing out

[tidal geyser]

what about the girls

[elder quarry]

good

[elder quarry]

yeah true

[upper abyss]

humans, i bought a 2nd fan hub because 1 fan randomly turned itself off always (like 3 different fans, but only 1 at a time)

I REDID EVERYTHING WITH A 2nd HUB NOW AND ITS STILL HAPPENING

I WASTED 2 HOURS

[gleaming rose]

it wasn't a waste, you learned something new

[upper abyss]

that im an idiot?

[gleaming rose]

no, that the fan hub isnt the issue

or maybe it is if you bought the same model

[upper abyss]

i bought a diff model and im using both hubs

since its like 10 fans

this is infuriating me

perchance

[abstract wigeon]

tried different mobo headers? different software? different cables?

[upper abyss]

no :,) i didnt use any software

also why would always one of 3 fans be randomly picked to turn off (only the pwm part)

[nocturne frigate]

I never realized M.2 cards could be so small

[tidal geyser]

well yea

[ember inlet]

🤦‍♂️

[tidal geyser]

what

[nocturne frigate]

I thought 22mm was the only variant

[random gyro]

OHHH FUCK

[nocturne frigate]

Looks so funny with only half the M.2 slot taken up

[upper abyss]

i restarted my PC and it didnt happen this time (or yet, who knows)

[nocturne frigate]

Btw I only replaced that little bastard because the wifi drivers were very unstable on my system but it also made my speeds double instantly lol

[random gyro]

could anyone help me troubleshoot why PoE2 has relativley unstable / low frames on a high end pc ?

[keen kestrel]

do i get 5060 ti 16 gb or 5070 12 gb

[frigid blade]

I love ebay

And you can make an offer

[gleaming rose]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIIBBj6KR-Y
god i LOVE xkcd

[empty quartz]

:3’ing

[empty quartz]

Offer $1

[azure topaz]

im not sure that is a good deal

[odd marsh]

its not

[azure topaz]

yeah 😭 its really bad

[gloomy sleet]

https://github.com/dmcke5/SimPedals homemade pedals guide is wild

[empty quartz]

Unlike using todays sponsor

[gloomy sleet]

i might make my own load cell for my srp lites

[odd marsh]

would have to get some decent HDDs in there to make it worthwhile

[rare pendant]

Are klevv SSDs good?

[azure topaz]

SK hynix in house brand, make sure its TLC then buy based off that

[dense rock]

Guys

This is so stupid

Why is the GPU always limited by Vrel?
The 5080 Astral never reaches 450 W of TDP.
AT MAX the GPU has drawn is 330W
While the Astral 5080 is supposed to be a 450W rated card no?
But oops Vrel ain't ever gonna let you hit that.
The performance limiter should be Vmax not Vrel.

[azure topaz]

Vrel is voltage

your card is boosting as far as it can

[dense rock]

Vrel is Voltage Reliability - soft voltage limit.

Vmax is max limit

[azure topaz]

Vrel means your card is not going to try and boost further because it doesnt think its going to be stable

heavier games will make it draw more power, what youre seeing is normal behavior tho

[dense rock]

Just increase voltage and it will be stable

no?

[azure topaz]

obviously it doesnt want to do that either lol

[dense rock]

That's what I am saying, Vrel as hardcap is dumb

[azure topaz]

GPU boost is basically dark magic, just know your voltage limited and with that yyou cant really do anything about it without hard mods/an xoc vbios

you can try and manually make the clocks higher yyourself to try and take advantage of that TDP

[dense rock]

Yeah with +300 MHz on core I hit 330W

+25 mV (Max allowed by NVIDIA and GPU Tweak III)

[azure topaz]

ah then yeah card just doesnt want to do more voltage, whats the voltage at that load?

[dense rock]

1.045V

[azure topaz]

yeah that sounds basically dead on

[dense rock]

Vmax is 1.1 V I think max by NVIDIA

Like is +80 mV that bad

[azure topaz]

when under a large and very stressful load but i dont think youll ever see 1.1 under normal opterations

[dense rock]

that vrel has to kick in?

[azure topaz]

i get your point but you should also understand that youre basically at the limit anyways, a couple mv isnt going to get you game changing performance or probably hardly even measurable without a frame counter

[dense rock]

Ngl

I just don't like the fact that GPUs are handicapped

Just rename Vrel to Vmax then

Since Vrel is the hardcap

They advertise big numbers but oh well, that's just marketing bs

[azure topaz]

blame nvidia and mod the card yourself

[dense rock]

It's like the speedometer thing, do you not wanna make the pointer go max

You buy a 450W card, you'd expect it to be able to use all that

I don't get ASUS even specifically increased the Max W from 400W to 450W, but why, it never goes past 330 W

[cosmic bluff]

Well looks like I learned something new today

I didn't know about vrel before

[dense rock]

Only using 70% of my card.
Only getting 70% of my moneys worth.

[frigid blade]

why is it bad

Its the cheapest I could find

[robust trail]

what

That isn't how that works

I hope that you're just trolling 😛

[frigid blade]

US prices are so booty

We can get 2gig in poland in the boonies for $25/month

and half a year is free

[dense rock]

Do elaborate? If it's advertised as 450W, then the card should be able to pull that

[robust trail]

The GPU isn't going to pull 450w if it doesn't need to

I have 600w cards that I have to do some serious fuckery to for it to pull 600w

There is always something that will get in the way, game engine, cpu IPC, DRAM bandwidth, etc etc etc

[azure topaz]

what about like an r730xd

[robust trail]

variable refresh rate (gysnc/freesync), capping FPS

[dense rock]

So I wanna see it hit that, then I know it can actually do that and I'll shut up

[azure topaz]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/186656675916? @frigid blade

[frigid blade]

yah no CPU no RAM

[azure topaz]

cpus for them are incredibly cheap, im talking 20$ for 2 14 cores

[frigid blade]

Oh right, they are cheap

[azure topaz]

ram is 20$ per 32GB dimm

[robust trail]

NVIDIA or AMD?

[dense rock]

NVIDIA

[azure topaz]

they come with heatsinks and power uspplies

that, cpus, ram, and a network card

its legit half the price or less

then you add your storage

[robust trail]

import time

n_samples = 500_000_000  # Large number of points
iterations = 10  # Repeat to sustain load

device = 'cuda' if torch.cuda.is_available() else 'cpu'
print(f"Running on {device}")

start_time = time.time()

for i in range(iterations):
    # Large batch of random (x, y)
    xy = torch.rand((n_samples, 2), device=device)

    # Do extra-heavy math: raise to high power to stress ALUs
    distances = torch.sum((xy ** 2) ** 4 + (xy ** 3) ** 2, dim=1)

    # Check inside circle (keep core logic)
    inside_circle = (distances <= 1.0).sum()

    pi_estimate = (inside_circle.item() / n_samples) * 4
    print(f"Iteration {i+1}: π ≈ {pi_estimate}")

total_time = time.time() - start_time
print(f"Total time: {total_time:.2f} seconds")

[frigid blade]

booo, those are 2.5inch bays

They are more expensive, the drives, than 3.5

[tidal geyser]

Newly rearranged my NAS setup

[dense rock]

Ah a python script

[azure topaz]

find a 3.5in one then lol

[frigid blade]

no syntax coloring :(

[robust trail]

Yeah... you have to try to get to maximum power

[tidal geyser]

i max space i have

[frigid blade]

add py to it please for the coloring

[dense rock]

So how does it work. I install python and run that?

[robust trail]

power!=performance

[plush wren]

[fickle ivy]

ITS BOOTING

[robust trail]

You'll need cuda toolkit, python, torch, etc etc

[azure topaz]

so is nvidia ever gonna stop owning math

[frigid blade]

Btw, you might have issues with it recognizing your NVIDIA gpu

It wont work by default

[fickle ivy]

my first successful laptop repair 😄

[robust trail]

just run something lame like... I dunno the fur doughnut of death

that will probably spike the power draw

[frigid blade]

Does cinebench use 100%?

[robust trail]

I dunno, I can't even get 100% running LLMs

[dense rock]

Cinebench for me doesn't even let me bench my 5080

[azure topaz]

(furmark) and yes it will totally do that agreed

[dense rock]

furmark + heaven hit 400W

[robust trail]

high power draw usually means lower performance after a while... thermals and stuff. Although 50 series FE is chonk

[dense rock]

ight

Nice to see that this wasn't just a marketing thing

[robust trail]

lol

power doesn't mean performance

[dense rock]

Now, if I wanna stop vrel from kicking in heaven

Undervolt? Voltage curve?

[robust trail]

I can get to 300w by runnin 100 concurrent requests against llama3 8b instruct 🙂

I can get both of my 5090s to spike to max power draw at the same time... that's just silly tho

[dense rock]

Anyways

I still think Vrel shouldn't exist, just rename it to Vmax

Why make it unnecessarily confusing just cause NVIDIA thinks oh Vrel to make your card last a tiny bit longer. Your card could theoretically hit Vmax, but it will never do that.

Like even on desktop

I have no GPU intensive stuff open

[tidal geyser]

marky why drivers no worke well for nvidia

[robust trail]

wat

[thorny saddle]

LLM benchmark?

[robust trail]

calculating pi

using pytorch lol

[thorny saddle]

but why bother against cpu

just else if

[robust trail]

because stabbing something 900 times after it is dead

no, use CPU for burn as well

[thorny saddle]

h

oh

[robust trail]

I don't want to write any more damn code today

I want to drink and pass out on my floor

[thorny saddle]

i feel you

2 IPAs right now

[robust trail]

omnomnom

[thorny saddle]

so tasty

west coast style

[robust trail]

rum right to my face

[thorny saddle]

hmm

[odd marsh]

5:00 PM

[thorny saddle]

no rum for me - i like those tasty hops

@robust trail DLAA looks so tasty

[lethal bay]

Bourbon or die

[thorny saddle]

no

[upper abyss]

someone should help me OC frfr

[vital gyro]

Does anyone else have that weird YT bug where you can't click on anything in the description or the comments when you first load a video until you refresh the page? I've tested this on 2 new browser installs on my desktop (Opera and Edge) as well as Safari on my MacBook Air, they all do this.

[true stirrup]

GPU, CPU or RAM?

[thorny saddle]

no

[upper abyss]

cpu, i think you told me mainly undervolt makes sense (9600x) i am gonna OC tho if nothing speaks against it

[vital gyro]

It doesn't do it every time, but it does it fairly often.

[true stirrup]

I don't do CPU overclocking so I definitely didn't give you any tips on that
Also if I did it would not include undervolting lol

[teal sinew]

Positive 200MHz offset PBO
Negative 30 offset in Curve Optimizer
run prime95 large ffts or y-cruncher VT3 for 12 hours straight

if you crash then back down to -25 offset

if that crashes then do 20 etc etc

[upper abyss]

then it was someone else

[upper abyss]

12 hours? 😭

[teal sinew]

yes

[upper abyss]

gah damn

[true stirrup]

Very fun

[teal sinew]

you can just start prime95 largefft at like 8pm and then let it run while you sleep

same with ycruncher vt3 or any other stress test

[thorny saddle]

sleep?

[frigid blade]

@azure topaz does this look legit? https://www.ebay.com/itm/186145909646

Theres only 1 photo, I cant tell if im getting the entire chassis or just the front 🤣

$50 shipping tho, so thats probably to offset the price being so low

[thorny saddle]

its an R730XD

[frigid blade]

I know what it is

[teal sinew]

cranking

[thorny saddle]

are you sure?

[teal sinew]

i am pleased

[upper abyss]

what do i do here? if i turn it to manual the curve optimizers gone

[frigid blade]

Yes, an empty R730XD

[thorny saddle]

its ONLY the chassis with nothing else

[frigid blade]

Well duh

[thorny saddle]

no mobo, no psu, no anything

[teal sinew]

uninstall that dogcrap application and do it in the bios

[frigid blade]

Right

[upper abyss]

oh you mean there okay

[thorny saddle]

but why lol

[frigid blade]

Cheaper than buying an already built barebones, no?

[teal sinew]

i hope amd eventually makes ryzen master not garbage

intel xtu is great

[upper abyss]

whys it trash

[thorny saddle]

by time you add mobo, CPU, PSUs its insane

[frigid blade]

the cheapest barebones is $400

[teal sinew]

buggy and limited features

[thorny saddle]

nope

[frigid blade]

can you help me find a cheaper one?

Specifically 3.5 bays, not 2.5

[thorny saddle]

There are a ton

[dense rock]

Wait

How much voltage does 4090 draw

[thorny saddle]

depends

[dense rock]

like in heaven, the max it's allowed to draw?

[frigid blade]

12 idle

[upper abyss]

gfx and regular curve optimizer are off, should i turn on?

[frigid blade]

I see now, Im not sure why but my ebay filter wasnt working

[thorny saddle]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/116466258791?_skw=Dell+R730XD&itmmeta=01JTP9QB7T0TQGNB0JBBTW7Z3C&hash=item1b1dee1367:g:dEUAAOSw1ChnmRy4&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA0FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1dGEqRFfV7oqtkpkTq3NS%2Bqk728lB0OCoRFxErTnpDawuN5cpSTk5SbnsmDVsT0vhYm9rXMO55TDLlbsH1PSNXQiVeFiboeh3DcuyxybYhqwLAUmxqvH99BWiBwdeMf9U8c8Ik9nKzoeHHmTmef3EYYm1UiSDKxNUA9%2Bab7%2BaNJ%2FIm%2FkwkfcM3Fdyogz0uiTaie8cnL2qOYFnFdxxX8PjuhELBhQLYcX4QhpUbRiIVjnYMcuaR9Ea2CB3R1r%2BeQ56Y%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR5i03cnVZQ

[frigid blade]

Yah Im looking at that now

[thorny saddle]

but imho don't buy an R730

[frigid blade]

why not?

[thorny saddle]

go R740

better CPUs same DDR4

[teal sinew]

curve optimizer is how you undervolt

if you want to get the most out of your cpu then use a positive 200MHz clockspeed offset and then find out how big of a negative curve optimizer offset you can use

[frigid blade]

Those CPUs get expensive tho

[upper abyss]

why not do a bigger OC? seems like the undervolt is more important

[thorny saddle]

what're you running

[teal sinew]

+200MHz is the most that AMD lets us do

[upper abyss]

oh didnt know that

[tidal geyser]

dhcp is life

[frigid blade]

On top of it being a storage server, im not sure yet, i want to go overkill so I dont have to worry about it later if I ever run anything more

I thought about what some people said, and I think its better to have a dedicated storage server and just buy a rack for other shit instead of everything all in a single computer

Reduces risk

[thorny saddle]

need to determine what you want

[upper abyss]

why is AMD limiting it? (also how do i know in the end if i "passed" the test)

[thorny saddle]

storage can run on sandy bridge

[gleaming rose]

dead hot chili peppers?