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But if you're buying one?
Idk about that man, people overinflate their gpu prices in the used market
local markets šŖ
sounds good to me
yeah
@tidal geyser did u pirate yo shi
not ti there is one ti but the guy aint responding
that has nothing to do with the 12 volt high flame connector
yes, i will explode
very nice combo
No
Does it worth getting NH-D15 G2 LBC over Arctic LFIII Pro 360?
I want to burn a school chromebook
im gonna assume thats the noctua air cooler vs a arctic aio
AIO is better in this regard
noctua is expensive and has a niche colour scheme
How does it work getting a second GPU to use for GPU pass through in a VM?
step 1: get a GPU
step 2: pass it through to a VM
genius

I mean, I've done it. I also had to do some screwing around fitting all my cards into my server, but it's not rocket surgery
As an owner of the NH-D15 G2, just get the AIO
fuck no
So I'm getting a bit frustrated with the new CPU i bought, its the Ryzen 7 5800XT, so many people have helped me, gave me solutions or quick fixes and nothing. I already planning on returning this CPU if my last method of fixing does not work, It just keeps black screening and then restarts the computer. Just now I played for 15 minutes had a Youtube vid in the background and AMD adrenaline to see if temps were too high or ram was being used too much but no, temps were low and ram was only at 15gb usage which I have 32 in total. I'm stumped.
Full specs?
Ryzen 7 5800XT just bought, 32gb of ram 3600mt/s, RX 6800 GPU
750W bronze powersupply.
The whole 9 miles, bios, chipsets, ran benchmarks and OCCT to check for errors, updated drivers, checked temps and I even installed my old CPU, the Ryzen 5 3600 and that one ran fine, no problems and works for hours on end. I was excited to upgrade for better performance and vr capabilities but I'm having so many problems.
thunderbolts was cinema
the world telling you shouldve bought a 5700x
or 3d
huh? whats the diff?
Massive
5700x 5800x 5800xt are all the same 8c16t cpu just minor clock speed differences
so ppl just get the cheapest one
How it performs?
Probably around the same if not better for cheaper
hopefully this works with my ssd
Do You regret ur purchase?
I don't regret it, I just had a very specific aesthetic in mind for my build which the NH-D15 G2 fit
I wonder how it looks like
it will
My build?
Ye
atleast it should it is an nvme enclosure
Just the normal Fractal North noctua build
And zotac?
that looks awesome ngl
āxlā literally an atx case
Thereās the Fractal north and the fractal north XL
Cause it's bigger than the normal north
Mine looks like this, gonna replace aio with arctic lf3 pro
that implies that the normal one is L
yeah def go for AIO in that
Also got 3 bottom fans
is there a M or S version?
idk what you want me to say
atx is not xl ong
After I see noctua+fractal build, got impressed a lot
Thats why I had considered getting this two
impressed by the cost
But i guess its not worth the cost

yeah it's a pretty penny
honestly i donāt understand aesthetic pcs
But the xl is larger compared to the standard one
your arenāt looking at anyway???
NHD15G2 LBC costs 260 USD here
yeah so the standard one is a large?
yeah dont do that
Also fractal costs 250
I just like having nice looking stuff
More expensive than my O11
Same and instead of spending a lot of money on Lian Li fans, I could get that build too but its too late
iād prefer my pc to look like itās gone through a war but have a 5090 then look good with shit specs
I mean same, I will always go for performance over aesthetic, but I upgrade the aesthetic overtime afterwards
arctic p12 max vs corsair ml120
iām on a train rn do i plug into one of the usb ports
be honest, is upgrading from the 3060 ti what your guys option AUD
9070 XT $1400
5070 Ti $1600
5080 $2299
whatās wrong with the 3060ti
9070xt
I mean if you are posting the 5080, it means you can afford it. Why not get the best GPU
Had a 1440p monitor for a while, and getting around 40-60 fps in RDR2/BeamNG driver and using 100% GPU
if you have to upgrade then iād get a 9070xt
yeah lol
ok yeah your doing something wrong there
beamng gets 170fps avg on my 4060
at 1440p
I'd get the 5080, still expensive, but you get access to the full DLSS suite
tbh i havent tested normal beamNG i always play the multiplayer mod, but if thats how I play its how I should benchmark it yk
yeee true, i was considering waiting for the ti/super version of it but who knows when and will guaranteed to get more expensive
i ran that game at 120fps medium settings with no AA
Uh is this a bad sign?
Res?
yes
Clean it
yeah i really pushed the settings of it ever since i got a new monitor, I use to have a 1080p 144hz, now I have the AW2725DF
or just blow on it will work
donāt play at ultra settings lmao
imo you donāt need to upgrade off a 3060ti for a while
honestly until 6000 series drops
I wanna do a new angle on it just Incase
Hi, do fish tank cases have good airflow, or am i better off with mesh cases?
yeah ofc lol, like ik i could lower the settings and get higher, but tbh even the running it at 1440 with 3060 is pushing the card much harder
iām planning on running my 4060 5500 and a310 5600x builds for the next 5+ years
how š
Fish tanks are generally sealed for water retention
What?
yeah i got the 3060 in 2019 iirc, whatever time before covid hit and the prices went stupid
ok thatās a good one
the dust
itās up to you if you want to upgrade the 9070xt will be the best for your money though
yeah thats what im like considering, like I could get save the grand but also i can afford it :\ idk
i see more dust than components
9070 xt
Thatās bad
New toy
Hi, thoughts on cooler master elite 301 case? Thanks
Well is this a good solution because I'm not kidding that's what my parents use to clean computers
Dust is conductive
only a few qsfp ports
64 of em
just qsfp or qsfp+ or qsfp28
average dust isnāt very electrically conductive
mf just blow on it atleast
Yeah but still a good practice
buy a can of compressed air
oo big nice
Compressed air isnot cheap
itās like Ā£3 for a can
Get yourself that one turbo mini fan
i wanna see QSFP-DD
i think he should clean it because dust inside bearings isnāt nice, and dust obstructs heatsink effectivity
Compressor
thatās like Ā£15
Wait what about the Intel spinning fan you know the fan that's attached alongside the CPU does that need a replacement?
People get more scared and do it because they think their pc will explode
That's a long ass boi
uh i would
take it off and clean it
Then apply new
you explode
But I am actually talking about the fan itself is it outdated?
explosion
i explosioned
All my Linux machines hostnames is related to explode
But my friend called it Crappy though
But I also wanna buy a quadro GPU where can I find it?
I have a fx1800
||some of|| them suck
Well I have plans to use UE5 and blender for animation
they all do outside of the £10000 ones
And I need more programs
Why quadro
most gpus will be fine for that
Any m3u exports?
my 4060 handles blender fine
I would want it because I would want like 30 tabs or 40 tabs on browser multitasking while animating or researching
Or learning skills
what does quadro do for that lmao
that has nothing to do with your gpu
quadros r literally just the same gpu
which is why nvidia just straight up markets the 'gaming' gpus for production workloads lol
You know nothing about this huh?
the productivity gpus are marketed for gaming*
I have a GTX 1650 and my computer had been suffering through lots of bsods lots of freezes and even the memory usage was at 100 or even CPU at 100 in task manager
Gotta start somewhere (;
I have bloat that I am not aware of
cough cough 5090 cough cough
memory, cpu
I needed an upgrade
ok so, wouldnt you think that you need to upgrade the memory and cpu then lmao
And a complete windows reinstall
your whole build needs an upgrade if so
No my computer had been suffering so I was So frustrated
š§
Are you scared of him
my cpu and ram are 100% util
"i need a quadro"
I had a thought that I broke everything accidentally
need £15k gpu
Theb upgrade cpu and memory
Also do not get frustrated when you can easily solve it
Ugh sorry for saying that though
I've just been so frustrated
My mind was clouded
Just give me some time to calm down please
Yo he said only matlab for the first year, kinda vague but
I found one at Costco with rlly nice specs
And a 4060
.
Currency?
yeah i'm so sorry
Hi
Itās just a tip, no need to
no
Australian
Ah
Check the weight and battery life. A ton of laptops with a gpu have bad battery life which becomes an issue for some people and also ones that do have a bigger battery tend of be rather heavy to carry around all day. You should consider this and how much of a problem it may or may not be before you buy it.
This one was fairly light
If I had to guess 1.5kg?
That's pretty light then, how long would the battery last?
No idea
Nice specs tho right?
Yeah its pretty good it seems.
You should look at other similar laptops online before you buy it incase you fine a better deal.
Weight? Also check cooling
Iāve taken a look
Iām barely finding
Tbh Iāve just accepted cooling is gonna be mid for any āgaming laptopsā
But Iāll check as well
There are some good ones, but they can be rather loud at times.
I am not sure how common this is, but being able to turn off the gpu is a nice feature.
Since stuff like Roblox which you play should still work just fine on the iGPU.
Would save you quite a bit of power.
I doubt Roblox would need a gpu lol
I used to play Roblox on max graphics at max fps on my sisters i7 laptop which I uses to steal on early Sunday mornings when everyone would sleep
It was intergrated graphics
I just want the gpu for uni stuff
Are these scratches critical on my GPU and mobo?
I have Intel Iris Xe graphics on my laptop and it does struggle to run some of the more demanding Roblox games at max graphics at times.
This is on Intel's 11th gen.
This was prob a 7th gen cpu
But to be fair it was back in 2019
And wasnāt a really demanding game
i used to run like a 1.4 ghz cpu
with 4 gb of ram
and use it on robloxās most undemanding games
I used to use 256mb of vram.
i think my record low was 2FPS
Yo does anyone know a good laptop that can play games like cs2 at 60fps for under 300$
On 2 graphic bars
nope
thatās like chromebook lvl
maybe someone else knows
web apps are getting quite good nowadays, compared to a few years ago
CAD applications can now run in a browser decently
How did u get 300 games then
epic games
i did already say it
but i have just kept claiming it since subnautica
well not all, ngl been pretty bad at it
gpu is almost irrelevant for battery life since the laptops just turn it off
$500-$600 maybe, if you're willing to buy something second hand or use integrated graphics with games set to low settings. But not for $300.
Like Skyrim and gmod on high is a no too?
Correct. Games need horsepower to run. These games might run on low spec hardware, but don't expect ultra settings.
filter ebay or whatever used site for rtx 2050 and 3050 laptop
inb4 I brick an expensive keyboard
What about the surface go 2
let's fucking go, i'm a god
no
i recorded and editied this vid and it just cuts out half way through
it just stops playing at the 35 minute mark
Can anyone help me with some fan configuration?
Let's pop a breaker
How do I know how much power I need? Specs are ryzen 7 9700x and rtx 5070ti
No, cause it will power limit
one of my monitors pixel doesn't work what do I do
750w
Does anyone know if the thermal right aqua elite 240 black v3 argb aio is good š thanks
what cpu
Ryzen 7 9700x
get an air cooler
Any reason?
holy fuck why does samsung have an artificial bluetooth volume limiter that you cant turn off, my headphones dont get loud enough when connected to my phone]
you dont need an aio
It comes in a prebuilt so just wondering if needs to change
are you some music production thingy that you need the silence
its fine
its overkill though
amds stock cooler can run that cpu lol
a good 650w unit or above
Is a thermal right tr-sg750s 750W 80+ gold ok?
Not sure about the entire psu tier list thing
It's not rated, but based on their other model's ratings I wouldn't trust it
lets get to killing breakers. Nah this is on 20A š
What would you suggest?
price?
Prebuilt so I can only upgrade from the given list
idk, a Corsair RM750 or whatever known good PSU
Wdym by rated btw
do you own the prebuild?
On the tier list
itās not properly tested
No im customising on the website rn
from what i can find
On what website? Who are you buying this from?
Invaderpc
can you build your own?
I think itās much more expensive
GPUs here are gged
any other psus?
MOAR! I could stuff two pro cards in here for fun
Ye lemme send a ss
Could be the move, whats in there currently?
the 5090s
Unless they're getting very good wholesale pricing, or just burning money for some reason, that's very unlikely
does anynone know why my app in not launching? latest version both of the app and windows, when i double click i get the outline of the app on the home screen but then it goes away after a split second, already tried a fresh install but still nothing any help?
What are these options š
Oh noo not in windows
I have some models to test over on windows
Ah
are links allowed in this chat
This screw takes the piss
whatās your ac voltage in your house
I'd say either the Asus or the corsair
no idea whats that š
you in the US?
no
what country
singapore
look at your outlet it should or may have markings of what voltage it is
230v
usually those are on the inside of the outlet, so not the part safe to touch while the breaker is on
230v,240v or 115v,120v are common
Fuck it
like more than 2/3 of european plugs have them engraved or molded on the outlets, not inside
Didnāt know that, over in the US theyāre basically never labelled
Why are you asking this when we already know where they are
It's 230V 50hz
Yes they are
Also how is this relevant at all?
the asus if you want a cheaper psu
rme if you want slightly better
sorry which is the rme
what do I do? This is the only screwdriver I have.
iām slow lol
rm750e
Shut up dickheads
is a $150 to go from ryzen 7 7700 to ryzen 7 9700x worth?
do you have the 7700 right now or no
i have nothing rn
for gaming? no
oh, itās relevant because most GPX platforms, usually not the recent ones tend to not like low ac voltages
most everywhere is going to have minimum 120v
does it barely improve?
ye
cause i was thinking of upgrading the case and psu instead of the cpu
at 110V or below i would watch it before loading the psu 100%, iām just ensuring it doesnāt kawpow on him
a non-issue
110v is on the low end of acceptable operating voltages, but still in the range of acceptable
What are you smoking bud
only a 1kw cpu whats the problem
GPX platforms (expect for the recently fixed ones) tend to explode at 100V
100V
theyāre rated for 100-240V
got him there
soā¦
(well, 350w, but 1kw if you want it to be/have the skill)
doesnāt matter anyways, they have 230v
not enough cores
yeah true he has as many cores as my 13900ks
yeah also from what ero sent the 90V requirement iirc is required by intel to comply with atx spec
i really hope no one has 90V
well the difference in performance
some parts of the world do actually unfortunately use such low voltages as 90, 100V rarely tho
SHUT UP
those people usually know it though
bad transformer
explode
transformer transformed into gaseous metal
and now with zen 6 amd is going to but 12 cores in just one ccd
so their dual ccd aka r9 cpus will be 24 good zen 6 cores
ac/dc
voltage differences in ac/dc hurt my head
then to the 90v thingy, 110v is what you are meant to have in your walls if that is your country that has it, but the longer a cable gets the lower the voltage is
Wait wrong AC/DC š
ac input
theyāre never the wrong AC/DC
fr
o yeah funny thing about that last part, half of japan is 50hz and the other 60hz
disgusting
anyways, 90V is intelās stopid spec which applies to full load for some reason, and 100V exists in some countries soā¦
gpx exploding could be a concern for some
90v full load probably accounts for droop in places like japan that run on only 100v
fortunately it wonāt cause or shouldnāt in case it does kaboom damage your other components
unlike gigabajt old p-gm
yeah, itās just weird intel is oddly specific about the 90v spec having to start the psu at 100%
it sounds like a disaster for psu makers
yeah but longer cable shouldnāt cause significant difference, unless itās very loong, which you shouldnāt use
also brownouts exist
@tidal geyser im going to be picking up le mac proās today :333333333
kit
cooking
@azure topaz you know, intel specifies that 90v only has to comply with 100% load at startup, and sustained
from my understanding it does not specify it is allowed to start at like 50%
Car
t
yeah i donāt know itās just⦠this is from ero where i learned da info:
word and weird asf
Quick q
Has anyone heard of a Y60 case not allowing for a full connection with a hdmi cable? It's close enough to work, but it's.. odd
How do ppl pick a cpu š
is it shit for the money
n what platform is it on
I'm building my first pc and i'm looking at the i5-12400 and ryzen 5 5600 as of rn
I ngl can't tell a difference between the newer generations tbh why do they cost more š
like 13400f and 14400f same cpu????????????
if yw upgrade path for pure gaming go for 5600
12400f is slightly faster than 5600
The thing is that I had a laptop for school but I unironically can't game on it bcuz of the 4gb of vram ā ļø
but x3d slaps intel with its upgrade path for pure gamin
so my reference point is with the i5-12450h I have as of rn
I probably wouldn't need to upgrade for a while tbh so
13 vs 14 gen is basically 14 eat more power for the slight perf increase
Hey guys im pretty new here, i have a question. Ive got myself a new Gigabyte 4070 Super recently. It worked absolutly fine the 1st month but since the latest Nividia Driver update my GPU fans are randomly rapping up to 100% and my PC goes into black screen mode.
Is this normal atm because ive heard that Nividia fucked up there drivers recently
Are the extra cores on the 12450h just low performance ones and then the desktop counterparts have higher core clocks as compensation?
i think some older i5-13400f are alder lake, not raptor
mobile chips are nerfed in general
because of limited cooling solutions and power consumption
not that it does anything
is 14 gen worth it or skip
Just recently bought an anker soundcore 2, (a speaker) I have the windows audio on 1 but its still super loud when watching youtube or anything else, the only way i can reduce the audio is by actually going into youtube and reducing it from there and i have to be super accurate for it to be low, any fixes?
i dont keep up with the intel stuff anyway
skip, intel cpus rn are not worth. if ur building using brand new parts, its worthwhile to bite the bullet cost and build with a AM5 set instead.
1% š§
theyre way cheaper tho š
huge difference
and the mobo is cheaper too and ddr4 support idk
yea nvidia drivers are fked, u need to DDU driver uninstall and install a previous driver version known to be stable
intel cpus are probably worth it to the average end user if theyre cheap enough lol
normally for ddr4 iād recommend getting used parts but up to u
biting the bullet is my personal opinion
yeah true, sadly that hasnt been the case in my country
some 13400fs were made differently
intel cpus are pretty cheap in the states to the point where you could probably consider it over am5 even
but they are ensured to function pretty much the same
13600kf at 189$ is very very very very hard to beat
i think even 14400f lol
but i think there was smoller batch of alder take 14400fs vs 13400f
I'm Polish lol
i mean it could still apply
i said states cause thats where i live and intel cpus are indeed cheap here
I think the i5s rn have some great pricing over there, if the user has no plans to upgrade and just build another when they need it, then yeah Iād go ahead
7700 tray: ajajajaja
you probably would be anyways since am5 is getting 1* more gen
can you put 120mm fans on the arctic freezer 420 ?
Yeah that's what i'd probably do
an ultimately slower chip imo
prob yes but 60mm worth of space will be blank lmao
7700 is indeed slower in general, plus if u get tray u get no warranty lmao
if you have patience to wait from šØš³
im not a fan of the 7700 bcs its in such a weird spot imo
i have 3 noctua nf a12 x25 fans and 3 phanteks t30 fans laying around , was planning to buy the LF3 420 , will test if it makes too much noise under load then ill have to change the fans and see the perf.
but are the fan cables routed from inside the tubes ?
valid but with a 13600kf its boxed w/warranty and guaranteed brand new
cpus are one of the components to not die often
wow im getting old, 7700 reminds me of 7700HQ
aight you win
the blue box is way too nice
why not 7700k? did you have a 7700HQ laptop?
yes but if u get a faulty unit its better to be safe than sorry, risk is low since theres QC but its still there
depends on the buyer
btw floppa yk how i went for the intel laptop
mhm
I refunded the thing b4 i collected and im going back on my decision
to bite the bullet getting 32gb ram
fair
i used so many 6700HQ/7700HQ laptops
my "new" company laptop has a 7700HQ, so im quitting tomorrow
LOL
@azure topaz meow
if thats seriously the reason let me see the note to your boss or whatever š
obviously not the reason im quitting but its one of them
"PS. fuck your stupid 7700hq laptop"
them failing to fucking pay me and also yes fuck their 7700hq laptop
Bro is quitting because of a laptop

Y'all what about VRAM?
At the next interview:
"Why'd you quit your last job?"
"They gave me a laptop with a 7700HQ in it"
Bcuz I was thinking about getting an used 3060 the sole reason I need a pc in the first place is cuz my 3050 has 4gb š and I can't see any AMD alternatives
i mean the risk is boutta 1%, you got a 80 day return window in case the cpu deds within that on aliexpress for example, unless you order from other non/international chinese marketplaces
if you multi $170 by 1.0(1%) or divide whatever you get about $1.7 less value
im supposed to get paid on 1st
its 5th
they do this shit every single month, some months even delaying to 20th, i even jokingly said "well just keep it for 10 more days and pay it all the next month"
but yeah up to the person if da risk worth it
fuck em
boxen
You stinky
u
Go shower, and get a job
I already have a job
-+-+-2172% chance self employment does not count
hey if he makes money he makes money
I work for an apple authorized service center/retailer
fals
oh no authorized service center
?
okay self employeÅmen beter
No
no buli hey hey hey
cad š¤£
@azure topaz i just asked and this open box unit isnt refub
just taken out for demo purposes
yeah, ours is even lower at like ā¬4 an hour in stinky ~mid europe
unless i go osterreich
or germanium
I can get free stuff like this imac
Thanks Alex will do that right now!
worth
I should apply for a job at AMD in the future, office is like 7 min walk from my house gahdamn
I needa account for work benefits!
yeah janitor would be a very cool job
ur not funny
I wish i could see what alex is saying
yes
nah but fr their office is like few mins away
I blocked him, but every time i try to open blocked messages discord crashes
So i cant even unblock him easily
š
Yes you can
I said easily
well, if you apply i wish u luck
I know the other way, it just takes longer to do
i hope you get a place as a janitor /j
Define easily
Because if going to settings is hard then that might be the right job tbh
Its on mobile
yeah but do you get useful garbage?
Free 1tb hddās
(Although, i have to do a security wipe if i want one)
yeah i do that but for SSDS here
Free imac
i get free ram, storage, recycled things constantly
got my new lpatop from work a couple days ago
Dms
allegedly
Account settings, my account
the red button
Yes
i wonder what it does
Doesn't delete anything that's for sure
donāt buy lossless
use fsr or XeSS
I think making the button red makes it more likely for someone to click without needing to
Red button attracts the curiosity
ādo not pressā button in red and blinking attracts even more curiosity
hmmm is there a video where the arctic liquid freezer iii's fans get removed? i want a more in depth look
i think the manual
With how the current market is is it better to just buy a laptop or go for the desktop and laptop?
depends on what youre looking for
because im going to have to remove the fans and put them back on from the radiator, and i see that the fans are controller via the cable that runs to the pump and i need to see how the fans are connected to the pump/something else?
i think itās justs screws
yeah but i mean the cables
that hold the fans on the lf3
yeah i know how the fans are held into place but im talking about the cables
@frail topaz hear me out
sure
2 2009 mac proās for $40 cad
fuck yeah wtf

same bro same
there aint much load rn cz noone is using it but it can spike very high
theres da full specs and names
If i had $500 cad, i would have 4x that
and heres the 2nd node
256gb of ram :3
tbf this 64gb (4x16GB) was free from work so not mad at all
32gb ddr3 dimms are expensive and rare as fuck
https://youtu.be/yWR52fzDoLo? 11:30
Just picked up the Arctic Liquid Freezer iii 360. Going to unbox, install and test it with a Ryzen 9 7900X.
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I could get 128gb ddr3 for 10 cad per dimm
8x16
im 93% sure ddr4 16gb ecc is about 10$ a dimm
Probably
But, the mac pro im buying at 4pm is ddr3
ah
i dont think so i dk
about the same price iirc
no i know that but what i want to know is that where the fans are connected, so basically i have the radiator, i want to remove the fans from it, mount the radiator and then mount the fans from the outside of my case into the rad
any idea if I can get more than 16gb at 4800 ddr5 on the 12500h?
as much as your laptop fits
dont understand. you mean I can put upto 64gb of ddr5 RAM and the CPU will handle it?
cool, may upgrade to 2x16 later
you could do like 2x64gb dimms
I don't think I could, cause
i may add a third machine to my proxmox cluster
they give you the warning "dependent on memory type" but they don't elaborate which is kinda confusing
I'm reading this like fifth time and i didn't figure out what are you trying to do with the fan cables
Need an upgrade to give my pc to my brother
Ohh
Way too sleep deprivey
uh, the cables are coming from the rad i think
Wish me luck, this is like 170$ worth of stuff that got this much protection
this, is hurting every braincell that remains in my head
So you want to mount the rad at the front inside of the case and fans outside the chassis?
Can I just connect a USB speaker to my ps5 for audio?
That may be possible depending on if there is a hole big enough to fit the cable and fans
Srry for the misunderstandin
5060 = 5050
All you should know
Nvidia has shifted the product stack naming
its still 2 generations ahead though like, wtf
I mean, gtx 1050 non ti also had 2gb of vram
what does that have to do with anything
Compared to a 3050, is the 6550M better or worse? Seeing as the 6600 is the equivalent of a worse 3060, I think they'd be somewhat equal?
Techpowerup didn't show a mobile 3050 result
that the 5060 is really a renamed 5050
Only 8GB, technicalcity said said 6650M outclasses the 3050 by 5%
Still
Hmmm nah I donāt think so this gen
an 8gb 5050 should still be better than a 3060, even at 12gb
4060 is a renamed 4050 yeah but the 5060 isnāt
Look what I got
CPU: Intel® Core⢠i5-12400F Processor 18M Cache, up to 4.40 GHz (6 cores / 12 threads)
CPU cooler: Jonsbo CR-1000 EVO ARGB (uus)
GPU: RX 6700XT MSI Mech 2X 12GB OC
MB: MSI Pro B760M-B DDR4
RAM: 32GB G.SKILL Trident Z RGB DDR4 3200MHz (2x16GB)
SSD: 1TB MSI Spatium M450 M.2 PCIe Gen4
PSU: DeepCool DQ 650-M-V2L 650W 80+ Gold
CASE: MSI MAG FORGE M100A MicroTower
CPU: AMD Ryzen⢠5 7600
GPU: PowerColor Radeon RX 6700 XT Fighter, 12 GB, GDDR6
MB: ASRock A620M Pro RS AM5 4xDDR5 PCIe x16 WiFi
RAM: G.SKILL Flare X5 DDR5-6000 CL32 32GB (2x16GB) AMD EXPO
SSD: Lexar NM620 1 TB M.2 PCI Express 3.0 NVMe 3D TLC NAND
PSU: Cooler master Power Supply MWE Bronze V2 650W 80+ Bronze
CASE: Lian Li LANCOOL 205M Mesh Micro-ATX
Can someone explain why are the prices between these like 300euros when they give basically the same performance
Yeah two Generation difference
Reason being 4060 is based on AD107 while the 5060 is GB206
1TB slim ssd
the used market is so clutch, I can get a $450 new mobo for $230+shipping on eBay
Congrats :3c
electronics tend to depreciate so yeah
But by that much? Its basically new
GPUs dont depreciate like that
ebay boards are usually repaired stuff
it was broken before and it got fixed
tell that to hardware unboxed i guess lmao
Dust
The description says it was a new board that someone bought and returned saying it didnt work, they tested it and it worked just fine. Some people are just dumb lol
Lol
I mean 4090 -> 5090 is about 30% diff, 4070 ti /super -> 5070 ti 10-25%
5060 is like ~25%? From 4060
25% is a sizeable improvement
Its the Gigabyte Z790 AORUS MASTER X
especially when you consider that the 60 class cards are the most purchased cards
if theyre both renamed then the percentages are gonna line up
Well the 4060 wasn't particularly good
look at 4060 vs 3060
4060 was like 10-15% improvement in performance but was also VASTLY more efficient
Like I think it was a 30% efficiency improvement which is crazy
Anyone have a good recommendation for a good bang for buck 14th gen cpu? Im doing a new build and already have a MSI Z790 gaming + wifi, I was gonna pair it with a core I5 14600KF unless someone has a better option
Y
14600kf sounds good
Yeah 33% improvement
so 4060 draws 2/3rds of the power of a 3060 while being 10-15% faster
thatās an impressive feat in my opinion
same
I mean... 30% faster while being able to make the gpu draw third less for 15% less uplift would've been nicer
i got mine under 75w
By undervolting
I need a opinion guys
disagree
i like it entirely because of the power draw
2013 MacBook Pro, is it still viable in 2025 for basic things?
and amd doesnt have anything that competes with it
Sorry for interrupting
basic things like using google watching netflix and shit yeah itd be fine
yup
I mean you can make the gpus draw less power
because of how my case is laid out, here ill send some photos
i have
put linux on it then yea
mine draws sub 75w
Theyād have to use AD106 if they wanted the 4060 to be any faster
Appreciate u bro
Will do
Which the 4060 should have been imo
and anyway, 5060 is gonna smack the daylights out of the 4060
4060 is an irrelevant card now
and the 3060 12gb im guessing?
yes
@steel umbra
i guess hardware unboxed is just full of shit lol
The biggest bottleneck with the 4060 was memory bandwidth and GDDR7 on the 5060 matches the memory bandwidth of a 2080 Super
mine draws under 75w and performs only 7% worse then stock
5060 will be more powerful and more efficient and solve the biggest issue that the 4060 suffers
that was never an issue for me tbh
itās an issue for every 4060 user
because thatās literally what holds that gpu back
i mainly play games that barely use 2gb of vram anyway
it doesnāt matter how much vram you use
i might as well qualify as a 4060 user since i have a mobile 4070
the memory bandwidth will always affect it
Overall its not that bad
Be careful who's "facts" you listen to around here. This is TC1, afterall.
oh no 350fps instead of 400fps!!!!!!!!
yea i still think hardware unboxed is full of shit
saying the 12gb 3060 is just straight up better than the 8gb 5060?
Link to where that was claimed.
Did it perform better in specific VRAM limited scenarios?
i think heās posing a question rather than making a claim
what??
albeit yes that is a very clickbaity thumbnail lmao
oh this was a year ago
Discrod
lol
Mo dust
not too bad
75hz fucking sucks man
Better than my laptop having a battery life of 2 seconds on 240hz lol
there are certain people in this world that need to get a compressed can of air as their christmas present. (you aren't one of them, this isn't THAT bad)
yes that works too but then said people would just let it collect dust as well which is a waste of money
I would say weak, but one of those is probably worth more than all of the ones sitting under my bed 
:3
There's like, 10 optiplex 7010's sitting down there with cpus pulled and no hard drives
Or ram
Yeah optiplexes are sad
I literally only took them because my highschool was throwing them out
And I didn't have my own pc at the time
O god are they even i chips
Now I have my 3k laptop and a half-ass broken desktop under my desk
Theyre 3rd gen
Wtf
I have 1 that's 4th
Is it a private school
Public
friend wants to upgrade, heās got these specs:
Ryzen 5 5600G
16GB DDR4 3200
1tb SSD
3060
Iām thinking with a $500 budget he can upgrade to AM5 I just donāt know what cpu
Only thing I can see why is windows 11
don't get a 5600g
What res
He already has it
Thatās what he has
But it's nice to have a built in 1030
Oh I thought it was what he was planning
Shit
Ok, the school wasn't even upgrading to windows 11 yet, they were still on 10 and throwing these out
1080p, but at some point he wants to upgrade to 4k
He said 1440p is fine tho
Well not in 6 months
He has the OMEN 30L atm
*and then our dumbfuck esports coach, got gaming desktops with 13900's,
and then put 3060's in them
Ngl I would just get a new monitor and gpu maybe monitor first
No bottleneck if he upgrades GPU?
Like yeah fps games are pretty cpu intensive but like
The GPU is kind of an issue, heās got 70% usage when heās streaming on discord lol
5600g is bad but not that bad
That was 2 years ago they started throwing them out,
They're not upgrading to 11 until the end of this school year
No
That is encoder not 3d
Okay I think I've been able to make up my mind
-HP Victus 15-FB2063DX (R5 7535HS, 8GB/512GB 6550M) - 545 US pre tax
Over
-HP Victus 15-FA0033DX (12450H, 8GB/512GB, 3050) - 570 USD pre tax
They're both somewhat shite options but 4050s only appear in the 750 range
From 600-700 it's for some reason just 2050s
Surprised laptops with any dgpu come that cheap, damn
What GPU and RAM would you get with a $500 budget then?
Any of you know what Brand AIO This is
Cheapest I've seen is I think like 400 something
asetek, its an acer oem aio (i think)
I don't remember which though
Just get a air cooler
Is this question to me or Sim
Mine was like, 2600, but it's also overpriced af because it's alienware 
sadly that doesnāt answer my question hahs
A 610M is integrated right?
7600xt?
Both
Why you asking in the first place
I just wanna know what AIO it is, canāt rly find anything on google
No
I meannn
I am probably going to ask the store to upgrade me to 16GB
I found it in my basement and wanna sell it
No
no?
Just straight up no, it's worth jack shit and hard to sell
Can you just tell me what AIO it is? lol
Then the cheapest laptop with a dgpu is a Lenovo V15 G4 AMIN for $389
Oh the 7600xt seems to be on par with the 3060 lol
@blazing onyx
Damn
I'll probably ask the pals at the store to switch out to 16GB before purchase
512GB is enough though for now
It's that bad??
is the lian-li hydroshift 360s good? saw something about pump failiures šµāš«
thank you
Jesus, how bad is the normal 7600 then?
Google has a button for this how have you not done it
4060
What store
Never knew that existed
is the 7800xt still a good choice rn?
I can get the xfx black edition for 500ā¬
Local, you probably wouldn't know them lol
But like 50$+ cheaper
I would wait for a 9070 xt
those are 750-850⬠rn
do you mean 9060xt?
that one's the main reason I'm unsure
but I'm also on linux so nvidia gpus and very new amd gpus are gonna be a headache
What about 5060 Ti?
Doesn't exist
it's gonna come out this or next month
I'm also considering just saving another 400⬠for a 7900xtx
prices for the 9070s are still pretty bad
If you wanna wait a while, you could also just get a 9080xt when they come out
I never heard of that even being planned
Towards the end of this year
My PC keeps Blue Screening after about 30 minutes of gaming (last few times was playing RUST). What logging software should I use to see if it's a heat issue, SSd Issue, or RAM issue?
could be too long, my rtx 2060 6gb isn't doinh all that well anymore
rx 7600? 8gb less vram than 7600xt and slightly lower clocks
r5 7600 vs 7600x? slightly lower clocks
stock
also I originally waited for the 9070 and 9070xt because I expected prices for the 7000 gpus to drop, but everything went up instead
the 7600 xt sucks unless you want/need amd + 16gb
event viewer should have something to tell you about it
also what's your BSOD code?
like, I'm kinda afraid that the next gpu releases are gonna be the same
with msrp nowhere to be seen and even older cards getting more expensive
HWInfo64 for temps
I've got an rx 7600, when it DID work it didn't seem tha bad though
until it blew up
bsods? i would lean towards unstable ram or cpu
I just discovered the Reliability Monitor in W11, look there now. I didn't note the BSOD error number, usually when I look those up their no help.
it what?
It blew up
Remember it the next time
Went up in smoke,
Popped, shut off my pc, and smoked
Go go build!
usually are thrown by CPU or RAM. you can check using event viewer, though sometimes those are also not very useful
Fair
mmmm 5090s
Will HWiNFO save a log, so I can look at it after a crash? So many temp values
Maybe GOG Galaxy Client??
https://i.imgur.com/PKQzH96.png
is there a reason you're avoiding event viewer?
have a dump? https://www.resplendence.com/whocrashed
WhoCrashed, automatic crash dump analyzer for Windows
No, just wanted to log temp also
Checking it out now
OKAY yippee getting a full laptop setup won't cost more than around 700ish
that sucks, the dell HP page says the omen 30l mobo only Supports up to PC4-25600 (DDR4-3200)
Might be a little lackluster but oh well what can ya do
does that mean its just locked from going over?
If anyone thinking your rig is lackluster - fuck 'em
Everyone has different needs and wants.
I mean, it's a bit lackluster in terms of modern standards lol
3050 Performance, but atleast the CPU is decent
to be fair.. most of the modern builds are for epeen clout instead of actual requirements
I swear I am not compensating for anything
hah! yeah
Fair enough lol
Although atleast the Monitor is decent
AOC 24B1XH2
IPS, 23.8", 100Hz
I'd say it's a decent upgrade over 1336*768p60Hz lmao
Actually, it would be more like they hate money if theyre overspending
Is anyone interested in the actual full build or no
I want to know if the junk I am buying is actually decent before I put the money down on it lol
Gaming -- mostly light
nvm the fact I just bought a new 260$ case, still not compensating
and are lame
I donāt get the craze for aesthetics, I like minimalism
This is the way
because I can
I guess that works
Are there any 1.3" squared touchscreen displays available for like a Raspberry Pi Pico or an ESP32? Something like the screens on the Unifi dream machines and switches?
I took my gaming PC off my desk because it was dusty and unused lol
I canāt answer but I love my little ESP32
Minimalism can be an aesthetic tho
I'm like an Ace of Spade in terms of most wanted in terms of war crimes on money in this hobby
Yah, I guess, but generally itās not as expensive

then you'd hate my desk, there's wires going from everywhere to everywhere
Okay wait
There are plenty of very expensive "minimalist" components
Is it okayish to use a business monitor for gaming purposes
Like the equivalent of posting them online on LiveLeak
Your workstation machines are more fun anyways
Or is black of G-Sync or whatnot a liability
Since I can cop an MSI 21.5" 100Hz for 75 pre-tax
60hz is all you should require, 120 is nice, 144+ is super nice
My laptop came with 240hz,
I forced it down to 120 so I could actually have a battery life
I donāt think I could ever go back to 60Hz, itās just the feeling of slowness
All i can find are round ones lmao
Itās so hard to get used to a downgrade
I'm not buying a 60hz panel again
Have you started with google images first? I'm getting a lot of options. Few of them from here https://thepihut.com/collections/mini-displays-for-raspberry-pi
But I do have to use 60hz at work
I was testing the laptop and I absolutely hate 60Hz
Those arent touchscreen or 1.3 inch square
The monitor im getting will be going from 144 to 120, but from 1440p to 4k
I've got my laptop screen for 120hz 1440 stretched gaming,
And then my 42 inch TV for whateverthefuck else I wanna look at š¤£
My guy, the point is try and do a little research on your own. If it exists, finding it is a few keystrokes away.
Well im already searching for like 30mins
I found something like this already, but I dont think that'll work with an ESP32 or rpi
Testing is the fun part
Get one with pins
I know, but I cant find those
AliExpress has a bunch
With touch?
Yes
They dont appear on google then or smthing
Search it directly on AliExpress

